#deep-dive-discussion

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random rampart
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No

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Still 1

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For both dives

jolly hazel
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or something

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hmm ok

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I know they changed something about deep dive xp recently

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maybe it was the interaction with the battlepass

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wow cool discord you can load other people's messages but not send mine

random rampart
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Maybe it's your internet lol. Sometimes it happens to me too, dw

jolly hazel
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did they make the total xp gains count as 3?

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I swore they changed something

random rampart
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The xp always summed the 3 missions, and it's fixed for each dive

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15750 for regular and 20750(iirc) for elite

jolly hazel
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i swear to god they changed something regarding deep dive xp

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in the past half year

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Mandela effect

sinful oyster
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Jesus 3 dreads for normal DD. What?

old widget
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There /was/ a bug early on with it only counting first mission, but that was fixed.
(EDIT: I can't confirm this via #patch-notes-steam so retracting that comment...)

It should be awarding PP based off of the single sum of DD/EDD XP

jolly hazel
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that was it

jolly hazel
jolly hazel
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technically 6

digital chasm
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low o2 hiveguard fight was easier than fighting the twins with the horror chasing you around

jade tusk
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Along with Point extract being the main mission type so you're on a timer as well

digital chasm
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once the dreads were down it got way easier to avoid the horror

dense pelican
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They named this week's dive after me! 😊

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"Massive Let-Down"

jolly hazel
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🙄

wet socket
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So uhhh

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What are your thoughts on deep dive in DRG?

burnt sandal
wet socket
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Like generally. You all dig that stuff or not?

jolly hazel
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yes

burnt sandal
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whatever, it's just missions

jolly hazel
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with technically harder secondary objectives

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but in the end less tedious than shit like fossils or gunk seeds

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while also providing extra nitra

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warning and mutator rate seem to be cranked up as well

random rampart
raw maple
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What does elite deep dives have for this week

jolly hazel
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check pins

old finch
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As a new player who has only done 1 deep dive, I think they're insanely cool as an endgame objective

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Different vibe from regular missions, added challenge and extra rewards worth gunning for

raw maple
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Where is the pins. I am a little slow

old finch
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And they stay the same so its like a consistent challenge to beat your head against until you figure it out

old finch
raw maple
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Mobile

old finch
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Click the top right corner and then its next to notifications and search

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While in this channel

raw maple
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Ty

old finch
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Np

raw maple
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Elite looks easy this week than last week

old widget
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cave generation is the unseen modifier tho...sometimes you end up fighting the cave more than anything. sounds like this week's EDD stage 3 is like that (though our crew won't run it 'til Sunday)

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we had another super nasty refinery EDD stage in fungus bogs a few months ago like that, just awful awful cavegen that took 15+ minutes to get pipes built

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pondering swapping out barbed drills for extra ammo for my cryo driller this cycle

jade tusk
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DD stage 2 has a high concentration from cave leeches

old widget
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or maybe we'll just spam drops instead since it seems like there's enough nitra

jade tusk
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And EDD Stage 2 unless I got unlucky had lots of Mactrea spawning

jolly hazel
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yeah it got obscene at times

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especially because egg 2 (the one at stop 1) was a swarm egg

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drilling swarms and normal unannounced spawns were HUGE

jolly hazel
sonic anchor
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what are the stages on the current elite deep dive?

jolly hazel
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id honestly take sticky flames this week

sonic anchor
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planning to do this one with my homies rn

jolly hazel
sonic anchor
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alright

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thanks

jolly hazel
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np

old widget
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yeah truth be told I was considering crspr this week even though cryo is my love

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kills bugs in one step instead of 2

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this week seems to be all about killing bugs

jolly hazel
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ya especially for week 2 it would be nice to paint big circles and kill grunt chaff

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but opressor in the funny driller pipe holes is a death sentence if u didn't make resupply pod oxygen stations at pipes

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so there's benefits to both

raw maple
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Nvm it wasn't easy

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This week is painful on elite

jolly hazel
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did u wipe

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or beat it

old widget
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34 minutes would be a pretty quick EDD run 😅
(no judgment, just counting minutes, EDDs are hard)

jolly hazel
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you never know...

proven pond
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i need to do my edds.

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anyone got a free spot?

old widget
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generally plenty of options in the platform-specific #lfg channels this early in the cycle

raw maple
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Wipe on second

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Had barely beat stage 1

jade tusk
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Solo or group?

raw maple
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Black boxes are the worst

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The problem was that our driller keep dying and we got overrun fast

jade tusk
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If you destroy the crystals around the black box in stage 1 and engie preps the spot. It's not in the worst spot for that set up. It's pretty awkward spot to do any sort of under bunker for it though

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That sucks.

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And being point extract. You hope to Karl that a wave doesn't decide to roll in during the blackbox holdout

raw maple
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It was wardens after wardens

jade tusk
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Warden spam sucks.

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I swear Warden spam is better bunker buster then opps and bulk

raw maple
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I should had brought the auto cannon for the fear instead of the hurricane

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Last week was more defensive on the bugs side while this week is more offensive

jade tusk
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If you survive stage 2 of the EDD you're pretty golden

raw maple
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Yea

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Last week had spitball and breeder spam

jade tusk
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I never encountered a single breeder in that stage at all.

raw maple
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On the last stage we got hit we 3 spitball 2-3breeders and 3 nexus

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It was hell

jade tusk
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Unless I got pretty dang lucky on my attempts breeders never spawned

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I know spitballers, Broods, and leeches are always the same no matter what in DD/EDDs

raw maple
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I despise spitballers

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Don't like em

glossy walrus
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just have to be careful where you start so you don't drill out into the open

jade tusk
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I hate broods more than spitballers. Spitballers are brutal enemies, but any sort of enemy spawner I'm not afraid to use waste a few Hyper propellent on a brood just to nuke it

glossy walrus
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you get pleeenty of nitra for stage3 though, so can deposit oxygen stations all over without issue

raw maple
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I only hate spit because they are mostly bunkered with brood and breeders

glossy walrus
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didn't have issues with wardens breaking bunkers though, probably because of scout ifg and the engie running double turret whip to counterbreak

raw maple
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I only hate spawners becuase they have a lot of backup with bugs

jade tusk
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A single warden is pretty fine, but when you get 3+ wardens it goes south pretty damn fast

glossy walrus
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we never got more than 2 wardens at once during a siege, but I don't see it making that big of a difference to ifg + sticky flame + double turret whip

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there was even the gunner with rockets if things got really bad, though he tended to not have to shoot much because of everyone else

raw maple
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I cant be as effective since i don't have many overclocks

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Kinda had started 2 weeks ago

glossy walrus
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ifg, sticky flame, and turret whip are all base abilities

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granted I am running sticky fuel, but even without you can still make sticky flame pretty effective

raw maple
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Any tips on gunner weapon choice on edd

glossy walrus
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mostly it won't solo kill h5 grunts without it, I think. but still can slow and maim for the rest of the team to mop up

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probably ac or hurricane for mopping up swarms

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without ocs (magic bullet) I don't think gunner can deal with swarms with his secondary too well

jolly hazel
jolly hazel
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we only had 2 spitballers in the hearthstone area

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oh yeah playstation gets different static spawns

raw maple
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It was a full

glossy walrus
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he was talking last week's last stage too. with a 3man we def got those multiple spitballers and at least one breeder too (wiped there so didn't get to see if there was a second, but probably)

jolly hazel
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ai director got a raise

jolly hazel
jolly hazel
glossy walrus
fallow niche
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thats basically how it is. a good tip to keep in mind a lot of the time is, if you're doing your thing and suddenly a couple fliers roll up on you, the rest of the enemies that just spawned aren't far behind.

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so they can make a good early warning for unannounced waves of grunts etc coming up shortly.

gray igloo
main anvil
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Whats the dd/edd?

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I only have time for one

gray igloo
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I’ll grind out that OC tonight so I’ll be ready the next time I fuck up and pick the wrong loadout

main anvil
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Ill just find the pin

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4 dreads 👀

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The normal dd is screaming “use hyperprop its funni” to me

gray igloo
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1 dread with low ox

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btw

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and isn’t there a shield disruption

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I had this problem last week with the EDD tho

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I’d say it’s just the new EDD meta

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with the mactera spawn? Hell no

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pain

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nothing but pain and grabbers

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unsure if the mactera types are set or if they’re diff for diff teams

fallow niche
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you running with a group or solo?

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oh

gray igloo
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I didn’t have wardens last week

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I had swarms of trijaws that would insta down you

fallow niche
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last week was pretty chill solo imo, though fliers are always an annoyance

gray igloo
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me and everyone else I was with I guess

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the mactera just didn’t stop spawning

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so idk

fallow niche
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i guess I'll take a look later and see how it feels

gray igloo
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felt broke.

fallow niche
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i have noticed in the past that sometimes the passive spawns are just really relentless in some missions. no idea how much it varies with rng, but I'm inclined to say 'a fair bit'

gray igloo
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wait.. they aren’t supposed to?

fallow niche
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mactera plague is like exploder infestation or swarmageddon iirc

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periodic waves of a certain enemy independent from the normal timers

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though with mactera it's less frequent than the others

gray igloo
fallow niche
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since it's not counted as a regular 'swarm' yeah

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not to be confused with special swarms that are all mactera, as announced by mission control

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if that makes sense

gray igloo
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Hmm.. if you have a special swarm of mactera, you can have a mactera plague wave on top of that?

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but not a glyphid wave

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in that specific case

fallow niche
gray igloo
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that’s wild, okay

fickle yarrow
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How’s the edd this week?

gray igloo
gray igloo
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which class did you go as?

mortal fjord
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what the shit is that stage 3

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bro

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the refinery is in a gigantic hole

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with O2 warning

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eggs

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and my team couldn't find the last pumpjack for over and hour

dusk glacier
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Funny last stage 3 on EDD

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O2 and in a pit

tall meadow
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stage 3 definitely funny

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have good driller and everything will be fast enough

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setup a place to fight swarms off, never fight near refinery

soft barn
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Normal Deep Dive is bad for Stage 3 too

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Dreadnaught Twins + Haunted Cave

hardy nacelle
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it's a point extract, the cave is huge

jade tusk
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With a point extract main. Better do everything fast

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Or get buried under the endless swarm

rain wing
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how would you do stage 3 EDD solo as a non driller

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sounds like a pain

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eng/gunner should have no problem tho. I've soloed the escort in other EDDs

jade tusk
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I remember a lot more spawns during EDD stage 2. I thought for a moment I joined a lobby with a mod that upped the spawn rate and cap

fallow niche
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jeez, you guys are making me a little worried

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just did stage 1, seemed chill enough in any case

sonic anchor
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what would you lads recommend for this weeks edd?

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group ofc, im playing engineer

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stage 2 was pain asf

old widget
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bring driller

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that's about it

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shoot bug, bug die

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this week seems to be all about swarm clear

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or rather, swarm thinning, with unending swarms from PE / eggs / refinery / etc.

sonic anchor
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driller cryo or sludge?

jade tusk
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Cyro driller. No dreads in this week EDD

old widget
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it's funny, I would've said crspr since there are no dreads

jade tusk
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I like Cyro driller. Frozen bugs are often dead bugs

old widget
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/s/bitched out/chadded up/

sonic anchor
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freezing mechanic is kinda op tbh

glossy walrus
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I used sticky flame driller, defends dotty and deals with swarms nicely

sonic anchor
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i just spam lures and grenade them lmao

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but this edd has so many goddamn wardens and macteras

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kind of unbearable

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we had like 5 at the same time

rich carbon
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what a map.. what a war...

fallow niche
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rip

sonic anchor
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we died at the last stage of heartstone

rich carbon
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ı played this game for 1000 hours, ı think, this map is the hardest map.

sonic anchor
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im at 100

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feel just as bad about losing some winnable scenarios

rich carbon
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these mines made me an elderly dwarf

sonic anchor
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yeah this edd is disgusting

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thats why i wanna win it

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the masochism

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wish i had a fat boy oc for this edd

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i would actually swap this over the best oc in the game

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the rj250

rich carbon
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sorry, ı gotto go now and let karl be your comrade miners, good luck!

dry wraith
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I struggled even on last weeks edd on stage 2

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this does not look like a nice dive at all lol

sonic anchor
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not a solo player

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solo isnt really for me tbh

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probably gonna take a couple extra attempts tomorrow with my homies

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to like actually learn the layout and how to play this edd

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is stage 3 harder than stage 2?

fallow niche
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the layout is very annoying if you dont have a driller

sonic anchor
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we do, fortunately

fallow niche
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so i'm picking my way through the granite as solo gunner :i

sonic anchor
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man that sucks

fallow niche
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had a stupid down due to no o2 but i have enough nitra that it isnt really an issue as long as i remember to turn my brain on every so often

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cave's not that big, just fairly vertical

sonic anchor
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platform gaming time B)

fallow niche
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re: stage 2 spawns it was a pretty annoying set of disruptor enemies to have on regen bugs escort duty, but tbh it didnt seem all that cataclysmically bad if you can keep on top of things

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maybe your game is just cursed bewbs :p

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or maybe i lucked out

sonic anchor
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am just wondering

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what was the hardest edd you guys ever played

old widget
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I posted a YT link in here a few days ago, "shattered armpit" was the worst one I've ever done

fallow niche
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wasnt that the uh, shield disruption salvage op one

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wait, no

sonic anchor
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what the fuck

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thats mad

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at least there was no shield distruption

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which is arguably the worst danger

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at least for me

fossil lagoon
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Low oxy isn't too bad. If you have enough Nitra, that is

sonic anchor
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low oxy with dreadnoughts is ass

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normally it isnt really

fossil lagoon
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Lure it to a large room, place resups at 1/3 and 2/3 of the room

sonic anchor
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makes sense

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its still a big inconvinience

fossil lagoon
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That's what modifiers do

sonic anchor
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i mean some are just straight up disgusting

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like shield distruption

jade tusk
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Shield disruption is pretty awful

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Low 02 is either a annoyance at best. Brutal at its worst

trim stream
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Low O2 refinery.. bleh

jade tusk
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Mactera plague is just awful if the cave generation gives you a lot of big rooms

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Swarm infestation is "Scout isn't allowed to have fun" the modifier

sonic anchor
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what about elites

scarlet quarry
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Big scary bug meets dwarf who wants to go home and grab a beer

crimson lagoon
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Just tried EDD - stage 1 dont remember I think it was straight forward.
Stage 2- quite hard with all the regeneration bugs and high health and menaces.. but doable, first time dotty lost a permanent piece in a while

3rd got wrecked cuz not even sure why everyone was separated at every wave and we never fully recovered haha damn vertical maps..

trim stream
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That third stage is a challenge ..

nocturne oracle
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You bring a good driller to third stage of EDD or endure suffering...

fallow niche
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pretty much

fickle yarrow
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Holy fuck that was ass

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I went into stage 3 on the edd at 38 minutes and left at 1 hour 32

marsh crown
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Oh, a haunted cave PE? Guess I'm not doing the deep dive this week

old widget
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haunted cave is best cave

quaint ferry
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i beat the edd with 0 downs

waxen verge
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nice

jaunty thorn
marsh crown
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Low O2 dread fight also looks unpleasant was well.

jaunty thorn
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Although I was disappointed the dreadnaught twins don’t take damage from the ghost.

jaunty thorn
wraith shard
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I thought we were space dwarves, why my flashlight feel like the batteries were cut open, drained out, and glued back together

marsh crown
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Oi, friendly fire is a foundation of this game. Just because there's a ghost doesn't mean dreads should get a pass!

jaunty thorn
jaunty thorn
wraith shard
marsh crown
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bulks blow up grunt swarms, and acid spitters can hit and poison other glyphids. Ghosts should hurt dreads!

jaunty thorn
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They move at very different speeds, it wasn’t easy to kite them together 😦

unkempt saffron
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Since bulks are a rarity in this edd, id say bunkering is a solid strat for this edd

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And no dreads means that one can fully spec out in cc for this

glossy walrus
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low o2 dread is fine, not that big of a deal with even a single supply pod called in. that + molly takes care of things fine since it's just hiveguard

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haunted cave PE itself isn't that big of a deal either since it's a rather wide open area. the more annoying part is that since the base is PE, normal swarms aren't halted like they are on normal dread missions

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makes fighting the twins fun

west merlin
# trim stream Low O2 refinery.. bleh

That doesn't sound too bad TBH although I didn't get to it this week.
Not as good as low o2 Drilldozer but potentially better than a mining or egg hunt

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Once you get your bearings you can call resupplies near where the tubes will be

west merlin
west merlin
glossy walrus
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I went in with randos so it wasn't anywhere near that coordinated. personally I didn't mind since I just chilled on a zipline the whole fight raining death down from above and ignoring both the haunted menace and swarms, but my teammates didn't pick up on that, so they got chased around by the twins, the swarms, and the ghost 👍

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wasn't until the very end where one of them realized that maybe I was onto something and joined me

acoustic peak
mortal fjord
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the haunted cave PE was pretty easy for me, as long as you can keep it's agro on a dude who's always on the move getting aquarqs it's alright

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i'd say 2 people on the aquarq while the other 2 locate the secondary objective, once a big swarms comes one dude just kites the ghost away while the rest of the team deals with the swarm (the agro guy should probably be a scout as they can move around quickly and aren't that vital when dealing with swarms)

glossy walrus
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that's standard haunted PE stuff, normal enough. the wrench that comes into the works are when normal swarms show up while you're fighting the twins

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most randos aren't ready to deal with swarms during dread fights

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mutators make specific swarms show up occasionally during normal dread fights, but normal waves are bigger than those

fallow niche
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like i could see maybe doing it on stage 3 if the haz5.5 spawns are really giving your team grief and you dont have pipelines up yet, but honestly just get the pipes up and kiting should be considerably easier

unkempt saffron
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And the cave gen in stage 3 is pretty odd to say the least, as long as you have plenty of resups spread apart for that emergency o2 intake then sure kiting wont be too bad, but if youre somehow running low on nitra or cant find some then simply bunkering is alright too

glossy walrus
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bunkers were useful for swarms on PE, egg swarms on escort, and while waiting for the pipes to break down on refinery

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never necessary, but saves a lot of effort so I'm going to do it every time any time I'm able to

unkempt saffron
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Bunkering for pe isnt too necessary, since if your team hauls ass quick enough youd probably have enough aquarqs before any major swarm starts going about

glossy walrus
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edd stage 1 ate some time up with the black box, so we had to deal with a swarm regardless

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so we just used the underbunker that I made for the black box for it, worked out nicely

uneven leaf
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I need some tips for the last stage of EDD, im constantly dying because of lacking oxygen or hordes of glyphids

steel glen
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Yeah me and my gang have made it to the last stage of the EDD 3 times

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We seem to do better if the driller hyperfocuses on getting the pipes done early and then you set up a resupply on each pump jack

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If you can make the driller dig a bunker, call a resup in it and then have an engie plug it

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It's a difficult map to move around

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Saving nitra in the escort mission is pretty important, most of the time you can make it through with 2 resups and then you can call a resupply as soon as you make it to stage 3

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Also the first stage has alot of nitra in it if you look for it, stock up

uneven leaf
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ok, save nitra for las tstage and set up pipes early, noted

unkempt saffron
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An important tip for stage 3 imo is theres a pumpjack opposite the refinery which is blocked by a cave, get your driller to drill through it and youll have an easy direct access to said pumpjack and you can get to one of the other eggs easily through there

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Since theyre both in the same cave

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And also you can cut time on trying to find it and not risk yourself running out of o2

uneven mountain
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This is from advice that I got here or from Reddit, but:
Drop a resupply at each pumpjack when you reach them. The one that's at the same height as the refinery (through a rock wall) has a fair bit of space around it, so you can drop extra resupplies there and use that area to fight swarms.
For the well that's higher up and pretty close to the refinery, drill a curving tunnel at an angle of 45 degrees or less, so you can place the pipes.

cerulean lichen
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yes, 1 of the pumjacks is in a big room at the refinery level

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safest room to fight imo, at least thats what we did

open ledge
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That final stage was a pain in the ass

grand goblet
crimson tinsel
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Did the EDD last night after work, going to do the normal one now and then the core assignment

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That Stage 3 cave was scuffed

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But we got it done with two level 30's. Proud of those guys rocknstone

urban hamlet
left sleet
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how is this week's EDD?

raw maple
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Last stage is stupid

west merlin
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Same for Black Boxes although my team messed this up the first try trying to get it in before the swarm

west merlin
west merlin
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Maybe I'm just a big pipe riding enthusiast

steel glen
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the pipes on this level are going to be mostly in tunnels drilled by the driller, so putting the resup at the end just makes it so whichever way you take the pipe you regen o2

open ledge
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That is key indeed

steel glen
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can't really put it next to the pipe when its in the dirt, also makes it harder to get to/easier to get overun by bugs

open ledge
amber belfry
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I've just failed the third stage of EDD for the third time with PUGS.

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I don't know what it's so hard, I think it's the enemies especially the shellbacks.

jade tusk
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Shellbacks + Tiny room = Hell

mortal fjord
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tbf, this EDD could've been worse, like escort and a black box

jade tusk
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Blackbox you can simply drill to with a driller. Do it before you wake up the drill and do the escort normally

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Or do escort first and complete the blackbox after you done the escort

outer beacon
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Yeah, the way the minehead is placed is just the worst. You're bottlenecked, and the whole map is too tight and constrictive, and there's just swarmers all over too.

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That final level is just abject cruelty.

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I had to save my IW to the end just to get to the pod and finally get it done.

crimson tinsel
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Btw EPC one shots shellbacks if you time the implosion right

glossy walrus
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I hadn't thought about that interaction before, so once it happened late into the fight, I went oh huh I guess this is a thing. was funny to see my teammates getting chased around by groups of grunts while they're running from the twins and the ghost

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neither of them decided to join me on the zipline and rain down death from above (not until the very end anyway), so they got a good workout

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it really made me appreciate ziplines giving gunners an overhead view of the area and thus being able to snipe down the groups chasing them

open ledge
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Your gunner and Engi are gonna need to be setup for CC

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Second attempt my team finished me (engi) running gemini and pgl with gunner suing AC both had about 740 kills each

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Breach cutter I don’t think is as good for this one due to the bugs favouring the roof and walls

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Then again I haven’t used BC on EDD

left sleet
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stage 3 is quite shitty on the EDD

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stage 1 and 2 seemed like cake when I ran it today

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Barely survived on 3- cut it really close a couple times with only one survivor. It took forever to find that last oilwell

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and the main pod is in a shitty shaft at the bottom of the map

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you definitely need all the nitra so you survive the O2

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On stage 1, ask your driller to carve out the wall near the black box if you don't wanna have a bad time. You shouldn't need more than 1 resupply drop to finish the stage

west merlin
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Does anyone have a screenshot of the map of this stage? Now I'm really curious but I'm definitely not gonna go back through the 2nd stage and try to beat that heartstone just so I can experience the apparently even worse pain of the last stage

old widget
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usually some YT videos that you can peep on

orchid trellis
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Yo this DD left me dumbfounded

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3 elimination tasks IN A ROW

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Doesn't help the first 2 caves sucked and only left me with enough nitra for one resupply per stage until the last one

jolly hazel
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you must not be looking hard enough

cold forge
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this has probably been said a hundred times already, but: "massive let-down", most accurate deep dive name so far

open ledge
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Lol

frail plume
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and also the last stage is super hard

proven spade
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Would it be possible to create an announcement channel for the weekly deep dive posts so that we could subscribe to it?

jolly hazel
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I think thats been proposed before

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personally I don't see the reason when tabbing over takes 5 seconds

vast shuttle
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Do Iron Will (and other abilities you use once a mission) reset every stage of the deep dive?

old widget
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That, and also your support ammo (C4, turret ammo, shields, flares) refills between stages

Although that support ammo refill may be a bug, if so they haven’t fixed it (while fixing other bugs that gave you more ammo between dives)

outer beacon
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Forgot to post but earlier today, me and my pal finally made it through the week's EDD. Toughest one to beat for us so far, that last stage felt like abject cruelty and it was only when we busted out our mains and double IW that we got through it. I'll be happy to not see a liquid morkite mission on Crystalline Caverns for a while.

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There were so many swarmers on the last stage, it was exhausting.

jolly hazel
outer beacon
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At the end I had to bust out my IW and get resupplies to be able to get out, and thank fuck I decided to go for lure nades for a change.

jolly hazel
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also ya the unannounced swarms were cracked in last 2 stages

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I swear ai director is given a random number of bugs to be spawned when the seed is generated

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some haz 5 missions feel like a cakewalk compared to edd numbers

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yet sometimes its opposite

outer beacon
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Yeah, weirdly enough, we took a little bit more time in the first stage, which was aquarqs, and we got the number of bugs we'd expect from a haz4 or complexity 1 haz5 mission.

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But the other two maps were just breathless.

uncut dagger
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Low 02 is cringe.

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I would even go as far as to say low 02 is worse than shield disruption.

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The first cave for the regular DD wasn't big or anything, but the low 02 made it annoying.

hoary cove
uncut dagger
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yep

open ledge
outer beacon
open ledge
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Gotcha thx

glossy walrus
# jolly hazel some haz 5 missions feel like a cakewalk compared to edd numbers

there is a decent amount of variability in what the director has to work with on any given mission yeah. this writeup is pretty useful for understanding general haz stuff even though it's for haz6 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O2hmVsoaSy2qId4jCWOP_pHMXaoGMWqf_MY7RAs6cxI/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs
Hazard 6 and 7: A Discussion on the Meta of the Hazard File

Hazard 6 and 7: A Discussion on the Meta of the Hazard File Originally created (Dec 2020) Updated (Oct 2021) Summary and General Philosophy: This edition of Hazard 6 and 7 is a first pass at creating a difficulty to counter the power creep of DRG in line with base game difficulty scaling. The va...

wraith shard
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SD= playing careful O2= forced to play passive

burnt sandal
timber rune
wraith shard
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Shield disruption

burnt sandal
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I know a lot of people don't like O2 but I think Haunted Cave is more annoying than low O2

wraith shard
wraith shard
crimson tinsel
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I like Haunted Cave more.

burnt sandal
crimson tinsel
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That Stage of the DD with Haunted was the most fun of the bunch this week

wraith shard
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Haunted cave isn't necessarily more difficult but it is more annoying

wraith shard
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At least it wasn't a Dread

crimson tinsel
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I think O2 is more annoying because instead of making you explore and traverse faster, it slows you down and has you running back and forth from what you're doing to an air supply.

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Especially if Molly isn't there

wraith shard
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At least the o2 was on the most centralised level

crimson tinsel
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The O2 on the EDD was annoying AF

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Cave system was terrible

wraith shard
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02 on mining missions makes me want to drink lloyds entire beer cave

wraith shard
grand goblet
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Like a 5 for me

crimson tinsel
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Stage 3 is the worst of the week. The refining head is at the bottom of a pit of vertical caves and it's low O2. Definitely need a driller. Also it's almost constant swarms and miniswarms.

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Me and another level ~200 did it with two level 30's but there was a few close calls.

grand goblet
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1st and 2nd stage was a breeze, 3rd would of been easy but we had a dread spawn

crimson tinsel
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2nd stage would have been a breeze but I was the only one who was repairing Dotty the whole time. Don't know what the others were doing because bugs were all over me.

grand goblet
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I got lucky with my team, they were pretty much flawless throughout the whole run

wraith shard
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What class/ loadout?

crimson tinsel
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Had to use IW just to keep repairing. It was down to 14% on the last segment of health but I managed to keep it from dying.

grand goblet
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We had a lot of spare nitra during the EDD, more than normal in my opinion

crimson tinsel
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We had a lot of O2 sources on Stage 3

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The O2 wasn't the annoying part, it was the cave

grand goblet
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Exactly

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We didn’t even space out resupplies

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It worked regardless just fine

crimson tinsel
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We spaced them out a little but it ended up being like 3 resupplies around each jack

grand goblet
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Besides the dread that fucked us up and almost ended the run

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We were stuck in the hole and it was twins

crimson tinsel
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I prefer classic dread and we didn't get any this week, did we?

grand goblet
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Not on the EDD

tired pivot
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no

crimson tinsel
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2 of each of the other two

jolly hazel
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classic dread has more potential for a wipe imo

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then twins

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then hiveguard

grand goblet
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twins usually isnt that bad but we were stuck in a hole on low o2

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took us awhile to kill them

wraith shard
static urchin
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Anyone else had in the normal DD, Stage 1, that the Hiveguard didn't spawn his "last" sentinel, and just didnt become voulnerable cause of it

wraith shard
vast shuttle
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Any tips for stage 3 of the EDD?

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Been very stuck

wraith shard
vast shuttle
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🙏

jolly hazel
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driller digs to pipejacks

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3rd pumpjack is in a passage from the spawn room

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put resupply pods at pumpjacks in case the tunnels get plugged

main anvil
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Yeah for this edd you def need a driller for pipes

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I tried stage 3 solo

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Did not end well

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Tho the escort was easier than most edd escorts solo

river pawn
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finally did this week's EDD, stage 2 was hard enough but i didnt expect to get through stage 3

jade tusk
# vast shuttle Any tips for stage 3 of the EDD?

Have a good grasp at how to be driller and drill directly to the pipes or hope the driller on your team knows how to drill.

Use Supply drops at the pumpjacks as 02 checkpoints

Pray the game doesn't fuck you over with a bad swarm set up

Rock and Stone

main anvil
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Personally id run max revives on bosco just because of stage 3

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But I did it coop

jade tusk
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Nitra is thankfully plentiful for this EDD rotation. As long as you and your team isn't trained by storm troopers or using extremely ammo inefficient set ups. You'll have enough for plenty of supply drops for the finale

main anvil
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Also a cryo minelets scout is great for repairing

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Just freeze and fix

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Thats just a general tip

jade tusk
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Or throw a pack of C4 and blow up a scout that just appears grapple hooking behind you

modern orchid
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After my promotion, I immediately decided to hit up a Deep-Dive. Now, being who I am, I decided to go at it solo, to really get a feel for what it's about; I was so eager and curious to find out what it was like.
#drg-gallery message

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It has changed me permanently dstare

hushed jewel
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Fuck this last stage

wicked roost
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Deep dives are really where teamwork shine imo

hushed jewel
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Reading the map is like trying to interpret hieroglyphics

modern orchid
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My last stage involved killing a couple dreadnaughts and getting Aquarqs while an unnamed horror roamed about wanting to kill me.

hushed jewel
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I’m talking about the elite

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It’s a god forsaken low O2 Refining

modern orchid
hushed jewel
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Whatever at least I got goo bomber special

meager wyvern
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so did edd have random dread spawns? I forgot

jade sundial
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any tips for my first deep dive?

meager wyvern
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Learn to kill efficiently and save ammo even though in normal deep dive kinda not an issue. but I guess just have fun

jolly hazel
wraith shard
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So, who else likes going deep?

jolly hazel
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your mom

meager wyvern
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or maybe it was dd

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I guess it was edd

jolly hazel
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yep 1.5% chance

meager wyvern
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and I was like wuut

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unlucky him

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the last mission was so annoying so I don't want random spawn even though I have been wanting to see one

jolly hazel
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yeah thankfully the 2 I've had have been in open areas

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dread on stage 3 of edd would probably be a wiper

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unless u set up the back room for it

uncut dagger
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You must have done something awful in a past life to have a dreadnought random-spawn in an EDD level.

grand goblet
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I had a random spawn… on stage 3….

meager wyvern
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😔

stiff tulip
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💀

frail plume
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do i get previous deep dove rewards if i fail the third stage?

dim gorge
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Yes, you get rewards for each stage. Even if you don't complete the dive, you still get rewards from completed stages

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But you only get those rewards once, so you can't just farm them

cerulean lichen
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low o2 refinery is better than any escort 😂

random rampart
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Standard 200 Morkite expedition is better than O2 any lol

balmy axle
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we were spoiled last week

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200 morkite 2 mules is the easiest possible stage 3

manic crane
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so, massive letdown, eh?

wraith shard
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Yes, we all felt called out 😔 👍

jade tusk
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Especially after my recent let down of accidently nuking my team because of a panic fire fat boy

open ledge
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The bugs won’t get us alive

old widget
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That’s what I told my scout yesterday when he got grabbed by a grabber and I shot him in the chest with hyperprop and his dead body plummeted down while the grabber flew off

“I saved you from a fate worse than death”

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TBF damn grabber was using him as a human shield

red condor
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I've recently promoted so idk. Do you get more rewards for doing a deep dive again

old widget
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There’s no benefit to completing a week’s given deep dive more than once unless you’re a speedrunner.

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Normal missions give more XP/gold/crafting mats per minute of gameplay. You can’t squeeze more than one set of cores per week out of each DD/EDD

red condor
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I mean like do you get more matrix cores

old widget
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No. You can’t get more than one set of cores per week out of each DD/EDD

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Cores are awarded for each completed stage. Blank core for stage 1, weapon core for stage 2, cosmetic core for stage 3. If you complete stages 1 and 2 and wipe on 3, you don’t get a second set of cores on stages 1/2 if you try again.

main anvil
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Any tips for black box as scout?

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This weeks blackbox is in a weird spot

jolly hazel
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you dont have to stay in there at all times

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but try to

main anvil
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Ig

main anvil
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Just for some extra utility

wraith shard
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I just got promoted, what is a deep dive

pine mural
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pain

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and also a source of more overclock cores

burnt sandal
red condor
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How often do deep dives rotate

trim stream
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Once a week, eastern standard Thursday mornings at 6am

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There's also a bot in this channel that makes anouncementa at 24, 12, and 6 hour marks afaik, could make more announcements closer to the change but I'm typically sleeping at that time

burnt sandal
pulsar dagger
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quick question, what loadout do you guys recommaned i should take to Elite deep dive as a engineer?

old widget
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something for crowds, something for single target damage is good general advice

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only caution I'd give, if you're new, is that a lot of new engis try to use the LOK-1 primary for killing crowds, and run out of ammo super fast (unless they are using ECR)

pulsar dagger
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i use the shotgun with full ammo and turret whip or i go stubby with full electric, which one do you recommend more then for the main weapon? i am always using the breach cutter

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dont have any overclocks for them yet

main anvil
main anvil
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Maybe rj250 pgl for extra ammo

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Or pr pgl

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And if you dont got those normal pgl is great no ocs

pulsar dagger
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what is pr pgl?

main anvil
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Id say do normal dds for ocs before you do edd

pulsar dagger
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im sorry man but i dont know what dds, ocs or edd means

main anvil
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…

pulsar dagger
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newbie here 😂

main anvil
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Dd=deepdive edd=elitedeepdive oc=overclock

pulsar dagger
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ohhh

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thanks man

main anvil
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Once you can do haz5 well you’re fine to do edd

pulsar dagger
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i did it twice

main anvil
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Consistency is key

pulsar dagger
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barley made it out with no health left

main anvil
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And i mean solo haz5

pulsar dagger
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bosco carred me there

main anvil
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Edd kinda hard to get used to

burnt sandal
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And about the build : don't stress about it

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use whatever you're comfortable with.

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You don't need overclocks to do the EDD

main anvil
pulsar dagger
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i will try to do one

burnt sandal
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how do you think we did the first EDD ? drillchamp

main anvil
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Back in my day we used real mules on our deep dives

burnt sandal
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lol

left sleet
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hmm just did the DD

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that DD truly was a massive letdown

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had 400+ nitra going into stage 3

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well, maybe duo is just that much easier

burnt sandal
jolly hazel
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same amount of spawns as solo but u get a functioning weapon instead of bosco to help

burnt sandal
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there's almost no difference between 1 and 2 players, but you double your firepower

left sleet
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I've never done DD as duo or solo before. I pretty much only played it with 4p random

wraith shard
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anyone know whats on the agenda for this weeks EDD?

left sleet
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you mean what's on it?

wraith shard
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yeah

left sleet
# 
| Stage |      Primary     | Secondary | Anomaly |      Warning      |
+-------+------------------+-----------+---------+-------------------+
| 1     | 7 Aquarqs        | Black Box | None    | None              |
+-------+------------------+-----------+---------+-------------------+
| 2     | Escort Duty      | 2 Eggs    | None    | Regenerative Bugs |
+-------+------------------+-----------+---------+-------------------+
| 3     | On-Site Refinery | 2 Eggs    | None    | Low Oxygen        |
+-------+------------------+-----------+---------+-------------------+```
burnt sandal
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it's updated every week

left sleet
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fyi, stage 3 is a pain so make sure you have a lot of nitra for that O2

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and a driller

main anvil
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I did the dd with hyperprop to make it go faster

gusty solar
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christ i hate d/cing on a deep dive and not getting the option to rejoin

winter oak
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Oh boy. A bot...

wraith shard
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@left sleet thanks!

left sleet
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Stage 3 was quite a pain

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1 and 2 were not too bad

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there's about 300 nitra in stage 1 so you should have a few drops by the time you reach stage 3

wraith shard
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Yeah we got gored by the refinery in a pit with falling space lobsters one shotting us

left sleet
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I take it you didn't survive stage 3?

wraith shard
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hah no

left sleet
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mm

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what worked for us was...

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ask your driller to widen the walls

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have your engineer put platforms to force macteras to get closer

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we were getting mobbed pretty hard so that's what we did

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it helped a lot

wraith shard
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yeah i was thinking about plats thing as well but we got into a death loop and downs started to stack

left sleet
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yeah I know how that feels

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It was really close for us a few times

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I used my IW when everyone went down and had to stay alive for a good couple minutes

wraith shard
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gross

left sleet
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ye

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the purple spitter glyphs are quite awful

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and they were spawning a ton of them

wraith shard
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I was thinking about sealing the refinery hole off from the top middle area

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then having the driller drill out to the morkite wells

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but there was no time lol

left sleet
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tbh that map really relies on your driller

wraith shard
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yea

left sleet
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without a good driller, they wear down your supplies pretty fast

wraith shard
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well im gonna go cry now

left sleet
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lmao

wraith shard
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hahaha

left sleet
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you know what to do now, though

wraith shard
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true

left sleet
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I still don't remember where the oil wells were. We had trouble finding the third one

wraith shard
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yeah i got one plugged and couldn't even find one

left sleet
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Did you have trouble on stage 1 at all?

wraith shard
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nah

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1 and 2 were snoozes

left sleet
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if you do it right, you only need 1 resup on stage 1

wraith shard
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just a little ammo hungry on the 2nd

left sleet
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mm

wraith shard
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yeah i dont think we even did a ammo on S1

left sleet
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I was being very stingy about resups

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but I'm glad I did =0

wraith shard
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had i know that was what was going to happen i would have run my super ammo conservation build

left sleet
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what class did you play?

wraith shard
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eng

left sleet
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aha

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I'm not sure there is a conservative build on ng

wraith shard
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more of a play style

left sleet
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it helps to know that the sentry ammo is refilled on each stage

wraith shard
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Stubby > 2 2 1 1 2 EMRF headshots only

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let the electrical dot do most of the lifting

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Breach > 1 3 1 2 3 Inf for a stack of electrocuted mobs

left sleet
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I think I do something similar

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well

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with stubby, I go for the 660 ammo rather than full electric

wraith shard
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yeah i used to do that as but i like making big pools of slow moving mobs that are weakened

left sleet
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the way I have it setup, I only need 1 to get electrified anyway

wraith shard
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def not a fast killing build but tap firing twice to kill a grunt is not bad

left sleet
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because it spreads

wraith shard
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yeah i do like that

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usually ignore pretorians and the like until i can get a nice group around one

left sleet
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I found going for 660 ammo vs 50% shock was better for ammo for me

wraith shard
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might give that a try

left sleet
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because that +120 ammo is 4 mags

wraith shard
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im very much a shotgun junky though

left sleet
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I don't have any good OCs for breach so I think it's a generic build

wraith shard
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yeah the bc needs ocs to shine

left sleet
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I went down 20 times in that EDD lol

wraith shard
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alot of them are meme ocs

left sleet
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our team averaged 15 downs

wraith shard
#

oof

main anvil
marsh haven
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whats the EDD this week

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looked at the sheet but its still last weeks

random rampart
soft token
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what’s the best engineer set for the EDD for someone who doesn’t have any overclocks (me)

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i’m talking perks, what weapons to take, and what weapon mods to use

feral atlas
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solo or team?

cunning thistle
soft token
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i typically run either fully auto warthog or lok-1

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with breach cutter and proximity mines

cunning thistle
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That should work

soft token
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i just feel like my loadout will get me yelled at by people who are tryharding

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that and its an elite deep dive

cunning thistle
feral atlas
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You can't really inspect builds in game.

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Other peoples at least.

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Personally, I only get annoyed when people suck enough to make me babysit.

cunning thistle
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If you use platforms you will be fine imo. If you can do a haz 5 mission you can do EDD too

feral atlas
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Builds don't really factor into it. If you can make it work and don't need me to help you, I don't really care.

soft token
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my computer crashes on hazard 5 because of all the enemies that spawn

feral atlas
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um

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ngl

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you need a better computer

soft token
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i use a 300 dollar laptop

feral atlas
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and if you, presumably, don't have significant Haz5 experience due to the computer not cooperating

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unless you're solo, being engi isn't a good idea

soft token
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i can play it but i gotta focus 100% on crowd control and looking away from the enemies

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(which is why i run mines)

feral atlas
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is this solo?

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if not, this doesn't really matter

soft token
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i do play on teams mostly

feral atlas
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engi's usually the most important slot on the team for certain objective types, and he has the weakest defensive options when ganked

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on EDD, if the engi hasn't played a lot of Haz5 and you get something like salvage, it's just going to suck

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driller's probably a better idea in that case

woeful patrol
#

For this week EDD, Driller is definitely a huge QoL

marsh haven
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but it updated now

random rampart
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Now? It updated 2 days ago lol

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Oh, the pinned msg lmao

old widget
jolly hazel
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particle removers help me a lot

unique ruin
#

I wish there was a free mine mode tbh, Like there's this special region you can go into where you can basically play as long as you want and complete some optional objects that are like mini versions of the main mission, such as fixing a broken drop pod, Exterminating a rampaging dreadnaught, stuff like that

vague sun
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just did my first DD that wasn't solo

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never realized how deadly dreadnoughts can be with a team lmao

manic pivotBOT
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jolly hazel
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harder to kill something that always wants to kill you and only vulnerable from the rear lol

vague sun
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we got through the DD just fine but man, those modifiers were painful

main anvil
jolly hazel
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weird that its still broken

jade tusk
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I think one of the dwarfs got into the Mission control room and played around with the buttons again

grave sigil
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Isn't it written "dwarves"?

hardy nacelle
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depends on the context

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technically both are right, but since these are tolkien fantasy-style dwarves and that it's written like that in-game, dwarves is the correct term

grave sigil
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I have no clue who tolkien is, but I feel like the subject doesn't belong here so

hardy nacelle
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oh, nobody special, just the guy who wrote lord of the rings and basically singlehandedly popularized the fantasy races like elves and dwarves

grave sigil
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Oh yeah, I'm not one for books personally

thorny gull
hardy nacelle
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yeah, that's one of my favorite stories

thorny gull
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I think someone told him that "dwarves" is incorrect so he just added the word in the dictionary

hardy nacelle
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his editor said "hey you spelled this wrong" and he went "I wrote the fucking dictionary"

thorny gull
#

The more you know

main bison
balmy axle
unique ruin
steel glen
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did the EDD again with a level 17 and a level 30 by bunkering on the last stage with sticky flames

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driller ended it with over 1000 bugs killed

urban hamlet
steel glen
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if you get the oil shale fast enough in stage 2 you can make it to the heartstone without a swarm

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you can get the nitra from the level later when you do the eggs

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you do need enough already saved up for the one or two resupplies needed to actually beat the heartstone though

unkempt saffron
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Its better to get both eggs first rather than vice versa imo, at least you dont have to backtrack too far and you dont have to face more swarms at the end

shut oracle
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i drilled to both eggs before starting doretta and it was pretty easy that way

open ledge
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Yeah

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Its the way

zinc canopy
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doing deep dive in AU region

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come join

maiden walrus
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Deep dive need 3 PS my first one

jolly hazel
placid basalt
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Anyone got the objs for the regular deep dive?

vale lintel
glossy dock
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I was like should I be drilling to the egg and they were kinda you should be to the second one without saying it

jolly hazel
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ya

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not having to deal with doretta repairs is big

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I think we ended up pulling it at the 2nd stop anyways on 1st and 2nd attempts

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1st was a swarm which doubled with doretta swarm and we lost 2 armors

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2nd time the first egg was a swarm so we figured we could deal with the extra bugs

graceful charm
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I could’ve complete this edd but when I was the last one in front of the droppod and I put my shield down half a second too late and somehow got blasted off all my health and shield without leaving.

jolly hazel
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last one?

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didn't your teammates get in?

woeful patrol
jolly hazel
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simply do not get caught by the cave leech

tepid token
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cause I did lol

wraith shard
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The cave in the last stage of the EDD was a pain to navigate, we tried to find the last pumpjack for like 20 minutes and then failed the mission lmao

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It's like half of the cave is sealed off, you see it on the map but can't find the way

jolly hazel
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its connected to the spawn room

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iirc

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opposite the direction that the minehead is

mortal fjord
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can somebody dm me a pic of the locations of the pumpjacks on stage 3 of the EDD

jolly hazel
mortal fjord
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i cannot find the last one

jolly hazel
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face the minehead from the spawn area

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then do a 180 and look up

jolly hazel
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if you are that desperate watch someone's gameplay vod

old widget
# mortal fjord can somebody dm me a pic of the locations of the pumpjacks on stage 3 of the EDD

being able to read the terrain scanner is an important skill in DRG - rotate the scanner, zoom in/out, look for areas of the cave shown on the scanner that end in a cut-off blackness or the beginnings of a partial tunnel vs. a clearly drawn cave wall, indicating an area that you haven't finished exploring. hard to do during a fight, but there's enough downtime between swarms to get a good look.

jolly hazel
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I rarely used it before because my tab key was broken and m is a stretch for my fingers

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but I got a new keyboard and playing driller is a lot easier now lol

velvet ginkgo
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Anyone have general tips for Hazard 5/EDD difficulty?

old widget
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wear out your S key

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always be backing up / repositioning, assume every bite from a bug will kill you quickly. drop into a map solo and practice just on moving and not getting bit

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the #1 thing you can do to support your team in Haz 5 is not die. once you get that down, the rest is straightforward

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there are some other tips of course, once you get beyond defense...for offence, target prioritization is important. always shoot ranged bugs first. mactera, spitters, spitballers, menace, etc.

jade tusk
# velvet ginkgo Anyone have general tips for Hazard 5/EDD difficulty?

Be efficient on ammo usage. You never know if the cave you're in has plenty of nitra for 5+ drops or barely has enough nitra to scrounge 2 drops

Watch your back. Bugs love to nip that bum and if a slasher tags your back. You're a goner 9/10 times

Always keep moving.

Ziplines will make you immune to every melee bug, but be mindful of flyers and spitters unless you want to have a express way down to earth

Target high value bugs. A slasher among a group of grunts demand a lot more attention then a swarmer charging at you

Know how to make a quick "Oh shit" bunker as driller and know how to quickly dig out of a bunker or else you made a tomb for the squad

old widget
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I agree with all the above, except that bunker strats won't improve your skills. If you're just looking to tick the box and beat the level, bunkers will do that. If you want to build that grey in your beard and confidently fight in the open on h5, don't bunker.

(I say this not to start a bunker/don't bunker conversation - both strats are valid for completing a level - but one will build your skills and one probably won't)

jade tusk
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It's always nice to have a backup plan

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If you end up being last dwarf standing. Anything god damn goes to make sure you survive or complete a mission

meager wyvern
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also fighting in big area

jade tusk
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A few others.

If Haz 5 takes you to Magma core or Radioactive zone. Elemental insulation is a very recommend perk. Elemental damage hits like a truck on Haz 5 and it's very easy to die to it while dealing a swarm

If time is on your side. Change the terrain to your advantage. Breaking down line of sight blockers to enable sentry guns more effective area to shoot at is one good example

Be mindful of where you summon a resupply drop. Last thing you is to end up blocking Line of sight on a fellow engie's turret

lunar helm
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we wiped on EDD stage 3

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Driller and scout were quite slow

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And we got overwhelmed, just needed one more pipe connected

urban lynx
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anything to know about the edd

hardy nacelle
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stage 2 has like 6 leeches in one room and stage 3 sucks balls unless you have a good driller

meager wyvern
digital chasm
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attempted the EDD, got to stage 3, swarm spawned and the team got wiped

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I swear there was like 100 slashers

old widget
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for stage 3, the pumpjack that's closest to the minehead (and on the same level as it, just on the other side of a thick wall) is a great room to fight swarms if driller has a level enough head to open a straight path to it and clear it out

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if it weren't for power of shields on a H5 escort I'd almost say bring two drillers, most of this EDD is about swarm clear

digital chasm
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I was gunner running NTP autocannon, not much direct damage

old widget
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NTP is easy mode on EDD IMO

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takes so much pressure off the team, assuming you can get into a position where you can tag sufficient bugs before they're on top of said team

lunar helm
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Sadly our gunner was bronze and too Conservative with his shields

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Driller and scout were both good

left sleet
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It took me til like level 60 before I started really using shields. I used to forget they were there

meager wyvern
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I use some shields in fights and try to save some for revive good use

jolly hazel
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fuck boreotoxin

jade tusk
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Do people even confirm kicking the eggs. Wiped on the 3rd stage of the EDD again because some scout got egg happy and trigger a swarm when no one was ready for it

meager wyvern
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Maybe he didn't know

old widget
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ehh...digging out an egg is pretty deliberate

stuck swan
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Is this weeks DD actually difficult or another massive let-down?

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EDD was pretty challenging

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Oh, all dreads. So excited to run hyper propellent.

meager wyvern
jade tusk
meager wyvern
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it was funny how I froze dread and threw 5 axes in one go

jade tusk
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Still learning get the timing down for Axe canceling

meager wyvern
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I fail it sometimes and sometimes I do it good. I play with controller

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ps5

jade tusk
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KB&M PC Steam

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On my next attempt at this EDD. I want to use a different class, but I don't trust random drillers because I swear 80% of them don't drill and "save" fuel

meager wyvern
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Drilling enemies after freezing them is so good I had not thought about it before I saw guy doing it. I used to run out of ammo among first but not anymore

jolly hazel
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id really hope a scout on edd would know

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id kick them the instant they pulled it without asking

jade tusk
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Sadly wasn't host so I would do what a driller would have done if It wasn't for a wipe. "Accidently" use my C4 on the scout

jolly hazel
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on haz 5 I dont give a shit until I hear egg 2 popped during a swarm

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and also tk doesn't reduce swarm size

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thats why I always host

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to deal with dumbasses like that

meager wyvern
jolly hazel
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teamkill

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lol

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if the scout is down and has not left the game, the game just got much harder because the game is still scaled to 4 players and one isn't shooting or drawing aggro

jolly hazel
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7-9 min, in and out

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especially if its a 7 aquarq mission

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every class can usually get to an aquarq immediately, so thats 4

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then driller grabs one more and scout grabs two+nitra while gunner and engie deal with the 1 swarm and grab nitra

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don't even really have to communicate that strategy, most people seem to know PE gameplan as long as they arent ultra-new

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refining is tedious imo and bloats the edd time, despite the abundance of nitra in those caves

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mining+PE are the quickest and easiest to not fuck up because of how the caves are structured

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(unless you get uber trolled with minehead placement)

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salvage can wild card you with detonators and bad deployable placement

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escort fucks you if you are uncoordinated/brain dead and all leave the dozer

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egg caves can be hellish

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and dread missions can also be wild cards if your team is doo doo

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or u get a shitty modifier

meager wyvern
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I killed my duo partner accidentally with c4 in the hard edd some weeks ago he used grabling gun to come to it. It was funny

jolly hazel
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based

meager wyvern
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I call out c4 for though

jolly hazel
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I ""accidentally"" killed the gunner who complained about light with flare gun as scout on the drop pod ramp

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but yeah tl;dr, the more PE and mining missions a dd/edd has, the quicker and simpler it usually is, leading to more successes

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likewise the more morkite secondaries and the less egg/dread secondaries the better

meager wyvern
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I had hard time with abbreviation what is pe again? 😅

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Aquark is hardest mission because increasing enemies and sometimes one is in the roof

jolly hazel
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point extraction

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aquarq

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well, that part comes down to team communications

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generally you can get PE done pretty quick unless troll minehead placement

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so the increasing enemies aren't a huge factor

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if you are dealing with nonstop swarms, you have done something wrong

meager wyvern
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Well fast out is the solution

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good teamwork

old widget
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(there's also always more aqs than needed, so you can often leave the one in the roof)

jolly hazel
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ya ~2 or so

meager wyvern
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sometimes more than one spawn in the roof

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it depends

jolly hazel
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sounds like a job for epc driller

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or pancake stacking engie

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when in doubt spam text chat and spam ping the aquarq

meager wyvern
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I don't play with randoms as they are terrible so no need for text. One guy once took the egg and activated dread then left instantly

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Ok, well normal mission I play with random but I host as I am paranoid about random kick

unique storm
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What in gods name was that

wraith shard
meager wyvern
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egg*

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and dread

past sluice
jolly hazel
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yes

meager wyvern
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Haunted Cave is coming on next edd trust me

chilly wren
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Recently promoted a class, what can I expect from deep dives besides 3 missions in a row?

jolly hazel
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the 3 missions secondary objectives are replaced with a pseudo-primary objectice

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for example mine morkite on a salvage missions, collect 2 eggs on an escort mission

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nitra carries over between missions so its good to save nitra between missions for surplus later

chilly wren
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Interesting

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Thanks

jolly hazel
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dd hazard is 3/3.5/3.5

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edd is 4.5/5/5.5

lunar helm
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The normal dep dives are definitely reccomended to do for newer players

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imo

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They are a fun new challenge with good rewards

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and not too difficult

jade tusk
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So if you end stage 1 at 5% HP, 50% Ammo on your primary, 1% ammo on your secondary, and no ammo for your traversal tool. The next mission you'll be starting at that point

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If you go down. You'll be revived at 50%? your HP total on the next stage

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Active perks charges reset between stages. So Field medics instant revive and Iron will's self revive recharge after each stage. So you get 3 uses of both of throughout the DD/EDD assuming you use each charge

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One more thing. Any buff beers you consume for a DD/EDD carries into all 3 stages

wicked roost
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does drunkness carry over?

azure wraith
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anyone else got dreads on the third edd stage? lol

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we got attacked by the twins

jade tusk
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Nope, but that's an unlucky spawn

azure wraith
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really unlucky but still won

jade tusk
azure wraith
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the drunkness refreshes if it's not 0 by the end of a stage

jolly hazel
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unless u are playing autocannon gunner please do not do edd drunk

jolly hazel
chilly wren
hoary cove
jolly hazel
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in my experiences minelayer takes away a bit of gunners ability to apply dps at long ranges in exchange for massive close range dmg

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like driller without the cc

hoary cove
left sleet
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So it's useful to just keep your turrets up instead of trying to save the ammo

mortal fjord
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POV: you looked to the bottom of the hole where the drop pod landed, only to see it's been filled with chunks of nitra and gold

jolly hazel
jade tusk
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5 attempts later. Finally beaten this damn EDD

jade tusk
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Fuck stage 3 so hard...

left sleet
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5 tries on stage 3? jesus that's awful

jaunty thorn
wraith shard
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Server browser busted?

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nvm there it goes after like 8 minutes of spinning lol

soft prairie
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Stage 3 was the time of the first two combined for ne

signal flower
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HOLY SHIT I JUST DID A SOLO DEEP DIVE, IT WAS ALSO MY FIRST ONE EVER WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

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IM NOT EVEN GOOD AT THE GAME

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HOW DID I SURVIVE

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I didn't even research or anything, thought that there wouldn't be fucning extra hazards

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It was still incredibly fun however

jolly hazel
jolly hazel
slate knot
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can we unionize harder, I only got 13k from a deep dive

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that's like only 3k more than the average amount I get from mining a lot of gold in missions

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and it all took infinitely more effort than mining gold

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I had to fight 5 naughts

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and do a drilldozer mission with flying swarms

old widget
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there's a reason most folks don't re-run DD/EDD after completing it

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no crafting mats either

slate knot
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really hope they buff the money and xp you get from it eventually, it felt like I just got the rewards for 1 mission when I did what felt like 6

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I know it's 3 but the double objectives makes it hell

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do you know if you can get sabotage as one of your missions?

old widget
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negative

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maybe in s2

slate knot
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thank god (for now)

jade tusk
# left sleet 5 tries on stage 3? jesus that's awful

First attempt failed due to a real unlucky Swarm
2nd attempt failed because extremely poor Nitra use so we had 0 resupplies for 02 checkpoints.
3rd attempt failed due to bad luck with the swarm spawned 5 wardens with a few oppressors
4th attempt failed due to a scout kicking the eggs and triggering a swarm before anyone was ready for it

left sleet
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think I got lucky with my team where we lost stage 1 and then 2

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I pretty much only play random, so it allowed us to get our teamwork together by stage 3

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gotta dig a deeper wall on that awful cave where the drop is

jade tusk
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All my groups were randoms. The 5th group was double gunner, scout, and driller (Me)

jaunty thorn
remote cobalt
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what is this weeks EDD

upbeat obsidian
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Check pins

lofty sandal
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how hard is the deep dive this weeks?

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never fight dread with low oxygen modifier

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especially for solo driller main

meager wyvern
thorn tiger
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imagine using dash, lel

meager wyvern
hoary cove
lofty sandal
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Driller is always feel so bad against dreadnought

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Gonna try it and if fail changing class

hollow summit
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I was soloing the DD with a podcast, as is my wont, and I saw what the modifier was for stage 3 and I just aborted

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don't need that in my life

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I have all OCs and cosmetic cores infused, if not forged, already. I don't need to solo a dreadnought with a hauntedcave modifier

hardy nacelle
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lol

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wimp

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topaz prairie
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ok

digital viper
topaz prairie
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He really did.

woeful patrol
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He never take them at this point, he's done with us dancing on Jazz

jolly hazel
hardy nacelle
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literally just use your eyes

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if you're not brainlessly smashing your face against the dread 24/7, you'll be fine

old widget
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Been off his meds for a while now sadly

jolly hazel
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plus if dash is down and you are not hosting its like a .5 second reaction

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idk what cold radiance radius (lol) is

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but you'd probably want to be on the tip of that too