deep-dive-discussion

[meager wyvern]

In my opinion c4 is better for swarms and dreads or big enemies

Someone said it is updated manually and no one knows by who but I could be wrong

[hollow hazel]

I tend to use it for swarms, or like I said, ores in Haz 3

(I use max radius)

Okay thank you so much for your help!

[meager wyvern]

What you mean ores like those which you take from wall?

Also remember to use your drill as weapon ammo efficient

[hollow hazel]

Yeah exactly

Usually Nitra

In Haz 3 I rarely feel the need to save it for swarms or big bois

[meager wyvern]

You could use epc to exploded the walls and ores

[hollow hazel]

EPC?

[meager wyvern]

the plasma gun

[hollow hazel]

I do! My driller is a beast

[hollow hazel]

Is that an OC?

[meager wyvern]

no it is the perk

like when you do the full charge and shoot it then it does aoe attack which destroys the wall and nitra, oilshade from wall

[burnt sandal]

TCF is the name

Thin Containment Field, T5 mod

it's by no means necessary though

it's just useful in a pinch for very hard to reach ore, like in the middle of the ceiling

[jolly hazel]

the scout invaldiator

[meager wyvern]

I had hard time with using it first but now I have learnt it is also great for frozen swarms

[burnt sandal]

for swarms in general

it doesn't benefit from the frozen damage bonus anyway

[meager wyvern]

I didn't know that, thanks. Well at least it is great as they still

[burnt sandal]

Flying nightmare, however, benefit from the frozen bonus

making it the only AoE weapon that does AFAIK

[jolly hazel]

I must be in the minority who likes the subata

[meager wyvern]

Subata feels like the worst weapon in the game the damage is kinda low

prove me wrong

[jolly hazel]

take weakpoint mod and on fire

or mactera mod if u have sludge

embedded detonators does pretty nice damage plus weakpoint bonuses, full auto does quick burst on butts

embedded det means i just tap a web spitter or two shot a loot bug and reload

helps him deal with trash bugs that are usually out of reach

[meager wyvern]

What about bigger enemies?

[jolly hazel]

not your problem

impact axes if u need to take care of them

otherwise unload subata into bug ass after igniting it

[stray dock]

subata pairs well with flame, once u get automatic fire OC, u can feel the difference

[unkempt saffron]

It could no doubt definitely use a buff if the new driller secondary suddenly outshines it which i no doubt think itll do, but the subatas ocs are unique and do elevate the weapon to a better status, especially with its unstable ocs

[jolly hazel]

still unsure on what gimmick they can give driller

scout needed a long range secondary

subata gives generalist options

epc has utility

[unkempt saffron]

Epc has tcf

[jolly hazel]

thats what I mean

what can they offer driller that makes an interesting sidegrade

while still being a dumb pistol

[unkempt saffron]

I could honestly see the driller getting the rocket pistol or the laser beam, they both can somewhat fulfill the role of combat and mining utility if need be, but this is just diverging from deep dive discussion

[jolly hazel]

rocket pistol?

[unkempt saffron]

The weapon teaser from a year or two back teased some wip weapons

One of them was an unguided auto fire rocket weapon and the other was a laser beam

Besides the other weapons teased which eventually were released as the new primaries and the xbow

[jolly hazel]

cool

[unkempt saffron]

Its not related to deep dive discussion but for the sake of elaboration heres a short video going through the prototypes

https://youtu.be/y25tvogERHg

Actually a year ago

[jolly hazel]

ty

[burnt sandal]

Additionally, we have this video, which is the stream where they showed up the prototypes, so you can the sound + their commentary (timestamps are found below in the 1st comment)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH-cwvRvO0o&t=9200s

[jolly hazel]

only problem i have with laser cannon

is that it would work exactly like minigun? because hitscan

except no ramp up maybe

rocket rifle seems like a Bolter which is cool

[burnt sandal]

seems like it fires in burst

• not for the same class, and different overclocks and mods entirely, with AoE damage as well

range might be limited to

[wraith shard]

bruh, i just learned that you have to start completely over if you fail a deep dive

the elite deep dive stage 2 is wrecking me

those macteras...ugh

[jolly hazel]

shield up

[jolly hazel]

I guess, it'll probably be changed when it releases, because sludge pump functions differently. I'd like to see a single target engineer secondary but I'd generally prefer some huge laser cannon that needs a charge up and absolutely destroys bugs+aoe death star mods

[burnt sandal]

that could very well be an overclock if we end up with the laser ^^

like you can't move and there's a charge up time but then you can unleash a laser that destroys everything in it's path 👌

anyway, if we want to keep on the topic, we should move it to #drg-chat lol

[meager wyvern]

There should be class specific chat the normal chat moves too fast

Like blink and you won't be able to keep up and the topic has been forgotten in 1 min

[old widget]

Yeah I’ve also advocated at least for a channel about builds or something

But then you have to herd people to the right channel

[halcyon slate]

There should be a mode called Exploration. Basically they drop you off in a cave and got to find a way out or build one. Would be fun

[burnt sandal]

thing is, there's already a ton of channel to moderate so adding 4 new ones would be a lot honestly

[burnt sandal]

it used to exist

it got removed because it was barely used

now we have haz 1, which is the same thing

bosco can take care of every bugs by itself

[jolly hazel]

more mods?

[wraith shard]

no I think he means a mode where the point is to generate an exit

[jolly hazel]

there is no exit from hoxxes

[wraith shard]

not a mode free of enemies

[jolly hazel]

we get inserted like 10km deep

not to mention deep dives

[meager wyvern]

Class dedicated channels would be more important than many of the current ones

[jolly hazel]

ya

there's console channels

and a steam shilling channel

[meager wyvern]

if not 4 of them at least 1 dedicated to all classes

[jolly hazel]

anyways

I hope we get haunted cave this week on edd

[meager wyvern]

same

I was to my friend I hope there is shield disruption but it ended up being kinda lame

[jolly hazel]

well

depends on the mission type

stage 3 was a joke

glacial strata hell pit PE with hiveguard dread would have been even worse with shield disrupt imo

it had low oxygen iirc

[meager wyvern]

I am not sure could I clear low oxy but if it comes I'll try

[jolly hazel]

eh

only makes mining missions hard because u HAVE to follow bet c

or waste supplies while drilling

otherwise its just not running off and dying

[bold maple]

what do you do if youre solo driller though lol

thats always been my dilemma with something like a sludge build more than anything. i guess you just have to build it in a specific way to kill big stuff

[main anvil]

Have the dds reset yet?

[random rampart]

no, tomorrow

[main anvil]

: (

[random rampart]

they reset every thursday 11am danish time

the timezone im not sure if its utc or danish, but p sure its danish

[jolly hazel]

impact axe/strafe the big boy because he will have slowed down solo (i think)

alternatively wait for sludge dot to kill it

[hollow hazel]

Is bunker a good strat for the first 2 missions in the current Deep Dive?
Our team have 2 drillers, an engineer and a scout

[odd rover]

Not sure about stage 1, seemed easy enough. It's very good on stage 2, just because it's mactera plague.

Alternatively, bring face melter for stage 2.

Should shred fliers.

No gunner will mean a lot less space to kill mactera, though.

[jolly hazel]

cryo better for mactera

instakills

also I agree take the gunner and drop a driller

[odd rover]

Instakill doesn't entail better, face melter just does a LOT of damage.

[jolly hazel]

you need shield this week

how does instakilling at 3/4 not entail better

less ammo used and not a turbo gimped weapon with one gimmick

[odd rover]

38 damage per fuel is pretty damn strong.

[jolly hazel]

you still have to deal with reduced tank size, a reload in general(!), and having to track each bug until its dead like a minigun (not even just talking about mactera)

I love flamethrower for static defence but there are two dreads and mactera plague

imo its not worth it to bring face melter but if it carried you

all power to you

[hollow hazel]

Okay, thank you friends, one of them shall pick gunner

Or myself honestly

I like it

Wait, mactera plague?

Isn't it swarmageddon?

[odd rover]

Oh, deep dive?

[jolly hazel]

edd or dd

[hollow hazel]

Just Deep Dive

[odd rover]

Bring literally anything.

It's Haz 3

[jolly hazel]

you do not need to bunker in a deep dive lol

nor should you because they are time gated missions

[hollow hazel]

I know, one of the drillers is a leaf lover friend of mine

[jolly hazel]

tell him to grow a pair of Dwarven nutz

[odd rover]

Maybe for the other stages or dreads specifically, I just think the mactera are the main reason fuel cells are so hard.

[jolly hazel]

aye we got bailed out by a few good shields

[hollow hazel]

Thanks brothers

Rock and stone

[jolly hazel]

its a dps race to kill them before they shoot lol

[odd rover]

I beat it w/ BB, personally (solo), gunner shields are just strong.

[hollow hazel]

I always tell him bunkers are unnecessary

[meager wyvern]

I used bunker for mactera edd and did cryo spam with flow overclock it made the mission super easy

[jolly hazel]

yeah if they can't dodge out of the cryo stream its easy

also no bulks in the edd spawn pool

[cunning thistle]

Luckily you can always get a random dread

[meager wyvern]

Don't think I have ever seen one in dd or edd nor normal game

[trim stream]

I've gotten random dreads in refinery, morkite, and aquarq missions, but not in DD/EDD

[old widget]

It can definitely happen

No exclusions for swarm types in DD/EDD, any swarm is fair play

[trim stream]

Oh so random dreads count as a type of swarm? I was not aware of that

[meager wyvern]

It was bad enough getting Praetorian and Oppressors swarms in edd

[meager wyvern]

I think someone said it is swarm but only dread comes

[burnt sandal]

special kind of swarm, yes

2% of chance to have it replace a swarm

only happens in Point Extraction, refinery and mining missions

[jolly hazel]

orly

I dont see anything on the wiki

but I'd assume ur right because those are the only ones with "normal" swarms

would be funny if a dread popped out instead of an egg swarm

[old widget]

https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Swarm

“Unique swarm types”

[jolly hazel]

oh I know about dread swarms, just didn't see anything about only occurring on those 3 types

but now that I thought about it, escort swarms are kinda unique in how they are announced and its never a special swarm

and eggs are never special

and no swarms on dread missions afaik

my 3 praetorian swarms in a row is more statistically rare than a dread swarm

yet I never got one during a dd/edd

[old widget]

TBH I also didn't know about that mission type restriction (and you're right, wiki doesn't mention that)

[meager wyvern]

not sure how many praetorian swarms we had but too many on the edd

we were like what the hell is this all the time

still never seen dread

ree

[jolly hazel]

good

you dont want to lol

especially on something like PE where the bugs don't give a shit and will still spawn

[lunar helm]

they are unneccesary but can be fun

[dapper musk]

hey guys, just got myself a sludge pump on driller. any tips or favorite builds with it?

[random rampart]

Are these builds only for deep dives tho?

[random rampart]

@dapper musk

[urban lynx]

what setup should i run on engie for this deep dive? non elite

only OC i have is chain reaction for stubby (i dont have stubby) and LW Case for Breach Cutter

[old widget]

BC with plasma trail real handy for stage 2 swarmers

LW casings is one of the best clean OCs for BC IMO

[urban lynx]

warthog or smart rifle?

ive been using warthog for the turret whip

and also what turret kit

[old widget]

For standard DD you’re fine with whatever, though stage 2 is surprisingly spicy for a DD

[urban lynx]

what abt turret? im using 2122 rn

and 21111 on my smartrifle

[dapper musk]

it would help having one for deep dives as well

[drowsy glade]

anyone want to help me on my first deep dive?

[meager wyvern]

try lfg channel as we don't even know what platform you are

[slow finch]

2 turrets right

[urban lynx]

nah sungle

i beat it

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[polar jungle]

running EDD on le steam😳

[hollow yew]

Anyone up to play I’m on psn as boomboomman99

[hardy nacelle]

#lfg-playstation

[digital chasm]

oi mission control, stop eatin' the damn error cubes

[opaque bloom]

EDD stage 2 is so toxic this week

[wide bobcat]

I’m a green beard who did the EDD, what the hell is that stage 2?
It’s the biggest cave I’ve seen and oh boy mactera plague.

The swarms are essentially death if your in the drop pod pit because it’s so hard to defend.

Fun deep dive but I know why some people are toxic about that stage 2.

[ruby osprey]

i did a team with 2 engies who both had 2 turrets so they just constantly set up 4 turrets everywhere we went to take down the mactera

not sure if that would be more efficient than 2 gunners but it was funny

[mortal fjord]

has the deep dive reset yet?

oh

[round mountain]

6 more hours I believe

I await in great anticipation

[mortal fjord]

well because of that, what did you guys think of this week's deep dive?

[maiden berry]

It was alright

[unkempt saffron]

Its not too bad, as long as you have an area with plat roofs and a gunner near you to drop shields then its alright, and whatever it is keep moving to a teammate when a squadron of macteras come upon you

[random path]

i will admit that in the edd stage 2 i lead my team into a bunker and it went smoothly

that was like the only situation where i think bunkers are alright to use

[unkempt saffron]

Bunkers in general are fine and dandy, its only when a bulk comes along till you regret your decision to be in a bunker

[urban lynx]

whats edd this week

[urban lynx]

whas a bunker

[white rivet]

L+ratio+steve+bosco+barrel+rock+stone+crippling alcohol addiction

[meager wyvern]

drilling hole to the ground or wall and using it as bunker to kill the macteras easily

[sly kettle]

Oooh, there's a new Deep Dive today.

[shut oracle]

we didnt bunker it but our gunner was literally a flak

stage 1 we got lucky and had the single dread, when i tried it 2 days ago we got triple dread and that took us 5 supply drops

stage 3 was very easy

[unkempt saffron]

Like what weabtechnix said, bunkering can vary from a hole in a wall made by a driller to a massive pit which was made by a driller and the top section is covered by engi platforms

[shut oracle]

i made some tunnels under ground to escape macteras worked pretty good

[unkempt saffron]

Whatever it is, the most important aspect of a bunker is that theres really only a single way for bugs to get to you, whereby they will be funneled and your team can easily manage them with concentrated firepower all in one direction

[jaunty thorn]

Finish deep dive -
Everybody else -> 300 to 400 kills
Me an enlightened Lok1 engineer with eraser - 10012 kills.

You can really tell when there is a swarmer mission.

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[tranquil karma]

you tried your best, bot

[round mountain]

Mission control finally lost his mind, after all those barrels kicked into the launch bay...

[shut oracle]

i kick them before every mission, kinda a ritual now

[maiden berry]

i cant wait for New %!s(<nil>)Deep Dives%!s(<nil>)

[polar jungle]

Last week's EDD (has it reset yet? I dunno) was easier with 3 than 4

I feel like 3 is optimal size over 4

[sly kettle]

10 more minutes.

[polar jungle]

K

The mactera swarm kicked my ass with 4 randos but 3 people in a discord call and only one person went down

It was another EDD where the 3rd was the easiest

Unlike the Azure Weald Aquarqs from a few weeks ago

[balmy nest]

EDD's gonna roll over in less than 10mins. Anyone on playstation wanna join?

[topaz prairie]

Pog indeed

[balmy axle]

5 seconds

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[topaz prairie]

👍

[vocal saddle]

ayyyy EDD

[balmy axle]

-20 seconds

[vocal saddle]

yea you gotta reload

[balmy axle]

🔃

reloading

[vocal saddle]

I just don't even start up my game until reset

[balmy axle]

anyone taking EDD scouting?

if so i'll scout DD

[round mountain]

I wanted to play solo scout for this EDD, unless there is a lot of dreadnaughts...

[balmy axle]

CODENAME: MASSIVE LET-DOWN

[round mountain]

We will see about THAT

[balmy axle]

DD Stage 1: 4 eggs, 1 dread.

LOW O2

[smoky gorge]

dread is hivegard for the first stage dd

[balmy axle]

hoarder stage 1

Ye xd

[smoky gorge]

2 stage dd 2dread 150 morkite no modifier

[sage kraken]

New dives in -10 minutes

xd

[vivid zinc]

edd 7aquarq + 1black box no modifier?

1stage

[smoky gorge]

the map is ok

first dread is twins second is hiveguard

[polar jungle]

what biome

[smoky gorge]

azure weald

[polar jungle]

stupid plants

I guess I'll see if there's a verified mod that removes them

[vocal saddle]

i dont know why high level players would avoid edd

[random rampart]

i'd avoid them bc skill issue

if lvl250 counts as high, of course

[vocal saddle]

yea

thats hundreds of hours

[woeful patrol]

This time, I will definitely get Fat Boi from the DD/EDD

[balmy nest]

Anyone wanna join me on EDD now? Playstation

[jolly hazel]

#lfg-playstation

[outer beacon]

It's been like 3 or 4 weeks with Azure Weald dives

[random rampart]

it is gonna be the truly rocknstone time

[smoky gorge]

ok i litteraly cant find the last morkite to finis hstage 2...

148/150 😦

[balmy axle]

check the starting room again

i got double barrel

🤮

oh GOD

haunted/volatile guts, point extract with a dread

absolute evil

also there's a leech further into the boss room with the twins

so don't get yoinked by that if the pod's in there

[smoky gorge]

found it

omg last stage is awfull

7 aquarqs + dread + haunted cavern

and volatile guts

[quiet mortar]

Sorry for being late, am on it now

DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Massive Let-down
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Low Oxygen
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Hiveguard) + 150 Morkite | No Mutators
Stage 3: 7 Aquarq + Dreadnought Twins | Volatile Guts Haunted Cave

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Fearless Drift
Stage 1: 7 Aquarq + 📡 1 Black Box | No Mutators
Stage 2: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 2 Eggs | Low Oxygen

[broken shore]

EDD
7 aquarq + black box / no mutator
Protect drilldozer + 2 eggs / regenerative bugs
Refine liquid morkite + 2 eggs / low oxygen

[quiet mortar]

Damn you were quick this week

[random rampart]

o goddammit you got a life outside your dwarven duties, relax miner

still a rocknstone cause to do, even if late

[jolly hazel]

low oxy

lol haunted cave on dd

and a dread too!

have fun playstation users!

at least its not edd

[sage kraken]

Wait
My first dreadnought was Hiveguard ,got Huuli
Second stage Another Huuli,and twins

[jolly hazel]

its just a dd it should be fine

its ur pfp

[true lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/spongegar-funny-blink-spongebob-gif-7390773

Where deep dive pin

[jolly hazel]

scroll up

[true lotus]

Thank ya

[jolly hazel]

np its bugged for me too

er

not updated

[quiet mortar]

I update once I have both, but I've not seen any other stages for normal DD yet

[true lotus]

I can also update

In a dd rn

[torpid crypt]

Stage 2 DD - Kill 2 dreadnoughts, collect 150 morkite no modifiers
Stage 3 DD - Collect 7 arquarqs, Kill 1 dreadnought, haunted cave, volatile guts

[random rampart]

do you know the dreadnought specifically though?

i think its the same for all

[smoky gorge]

maade the dd in 36 min can be quicker if i didn't lost 8 min loking for morkite in stage 2

twins and hiveguard

[balmy axle]

38:18

not too shabby

[smoky gorge]

for stage 2

and twins for stage 3

[balmy axle]

twins for stage 3

troll-ass DD

[smoky gorge]

last stage is scary :p

[jolly hazel]

"what is this big invisible enemy i cant kill that one shots me?"

[smoky gorge]

got a wave + twins dread + ghost chasing me

[balmy axle]

low oxygen refine with 2 eggs is a big troll

less big troll than doretta with 2 eggs

THE CODENAME WAS RIGHT

MASSIVE LET-DOWN

imagine that as an EDD finale

dozer EDD this week at least has the concession of immortal steeve

low-O2 refinery is cursed

[finite elk]

this week's normal dd is cursed

[balmy axle]

if you're soloing this DD highly recommend scout gaming

otherwise, good luck

did i mention stage 1 starts with a massive sheer drop that's too far for a zipline

you have to go back up to evac

have fun with that

lowO2 btw

[random rampart]

What about driller

[balmy axle]

pro tip

hollow point + focus shot bonus damage m1k will oneshot a hiveguard's weakpoint when playing solo

has to be prestiged

[smoky gorge]

The drop is ok with zipline i did the DD as gunner and it was ok

[balmy axle]

scout gaming

[smoky gorge]

@quiet mortar you forgot to edit the biome and the name

For the EDD

[quiet mortar]

Oh dammit thanks

[smoky gorge]

It is crystalline cavern i think

Np thanks for your pinned message 🙂 every week

[balmy axle]

cant wait for the devs to die laughing when they see boss fights 3 times in a row

[jolly hazel]

yes

[round mountain]

Damn, I really wanted to play scout solo on this EDD, but that escort duty is nigh impossible...

too many spitting things

[balmy axle]

escort duty in EDD instantly means breach cutter engi and nothing else

it's kind of sad TBH

[round mountain]

Shame, guess I gotta go driller or something else then

I already tried twice, but the drilldozer just gets overrun by too many enemies, and scout is not good at dealing with waves.

[balmy axle]

i will say gunner probably isnt the best idea

[round mountain]

Nah, gunner would be fine.

Really any class other than scout wouldn't be a problem

Yee

I guess I will try engi for this one instead then.

[ebon anchor]

How's stage 3 EDD

Are they in very bad spots

[woeful patrol]

There is a escort duty ?

Dear Karl

[unkempt saffron]

Low oxygen refinery here i come

[unkempt saffron]

At the very least it aint lethal bugs

[wraith shard]

Stage 3 EDD refinery is in a hole, all the pumpjacks are high up and quite far away

You definitely want to have a driller for that one

[sick ginkgo]

Any tips for EDD dive?

[ebon anchor]

Whoops. Nitra condition? Enough to plant at the 3 locations?

[brazen orchid]

nitra starvation

[wraith shard]

We had lots of nitra

I don't think we even mined all of it on Stage 3

Enough to have like 2/3 by refinery and then 1 for each location

[ebon anchor]

Wow that's plenty. Thanks

Still will be looking out for nitra in case stuff happens I guess

[mellow cove]

Oh huh, that's a lot of dreads this DD

Scout time, yet again

[jolly hazel]

kill

[sick ginkgo]

No need to kill

Steve can handle that

[meager wyvern]

Dunno how platform has anything to do with dd/edd?

[vocal saddle]

controller is fucked

[meager wyvern]

What?

No it isn't

[jolly hazel]

steeve on edd dies in like 5 hits lol

[jolly hazel]

large portion of playstation players probably have not encountered haunted cave yet

[round mountain]

Ugh this EDD escort is tough, there are SO many spitting enemies at once.

[jolly hazel]

and its on a bad mission combo

also aiming on console is shittier

because no auto aim afaik

[meager wyvern]

Haven't noticed any issue with aim

[sick ginkgo]

Yes i'm do

[meager wyvern]

I am glad I don',t do edd/dd with randoms anymore

[sick ginkgo]

Nice

[fast sluice]

good god EDD-3 this week

[jolly hazel]

used to it at this point

[fast sluice]

that is absolutely rancid

[thorn patio]

Ugh wtf is EDD 3

That spawn is absolute wank

[lunar helm]

lol

apparently it spawns in a pit

[thorn patio]

Yup

[spiral scaffold]

So EDD-3 is low oxygen refinery?

[thorn patio]

It's basically bring a driller or gtfo

[round mountain]

Is anyone else struggling with EDD 2 escort solo? I failed it like 4 times now, worst one I experienced, ever.

The amount of spitters, tri-jaws, mactera and menaces at the same time was ridiculous

[novel ferry]

it's because of regenerative bugs. this modificator is generally bad for solo

[round mountain]

Yeah, I was gonna mention that too

[thorn patio]

Yeah its a lot worse than the escort we had 2 weeks ago

[round mountain]

I tried it as scout, engineer and driller now, always fail on second at the end.

If you get 1 menace its basically over.

[novel ferry]

if you can play driller you can succeed

[round mountain]

Yeah, I was doing fine until I got a menace that kept regenerating.

[novel ferry]

engi won't do and scout either

[round mountain]

Its a tough one

Wonder if gunner might be useful in this case with shield.

[novel ferry]

use cryo on bosco and hope there won't be absolutely bad situation

[jolly hazel]

nobody has said anything about a bulk yet

good sign

[novel ferry]

gunner won't do because of 3rd stage

[round mountain]

Damn

[pliant gate]

we had two on DD

[round mountain]

Well I just failed as driller too, I've been really unlucky on that stage so far.

[novel ferry]

hope you make it next time 🙂

[thorn patio]

I did ok with driller

[round mountain]

(Im just salty from failing so many times)

[thorn patio]

Sticky flames with ER on the sub

[round mountain]

[lunar aspen]

that last stage of EDD was a nightmare

[novel ferry]

got bad driller?

[lunar aspen]

Solo gunner

[meager wyvern]

what a surprise driller is essential again bwhahah

[lunar aspen]

#deep-dive-speedrunning message

[novel ferry]

Understood

[round mountain]

Welp, guess I will just have to try again, and pray I dont get so many spitting enemies again

[novel ferry]

Good luck

[round mountain]

[lunar aspen]

Highly highly recommend a driller - had like 3 swarms for one pipe laying

[jolly hazel]

which stage

rip stage 3

[burnt sandal]

#steam-profile-sharing might be the place to drop that ^^

and if you're looking for people, we got those #lfg-steam

[jade epoch]

alright thanks, will do

[vernal willow]

woo edd finished in 47:38 mins!

[steep cloud]

"Massive Letdown"

[woeful quarry]

how hard is the DD this week? bloody low oxygen cancer D:

[jolly hazel]

I mean it haz 3

probably more diff than normal cuz of funny stage 3

[vocal saddle]

edd done

[vocal saddle]

wow thats quick I finished in 1:10

[vocal saddle]

thats crazy

[fossil lagoon]

good luck to those in EDD without a driller

[round mountain]

Finally did it haha, got a bit more luckier with the spawns, but still that was a really tough EDD for sure.

I truly feel sorry for anyone without a driller for that last stage.

[dry stump]

man I got cancer playing this week's edd

[fossil lagoon]

yea wasn't too bad though

[balmy axle]

the only hard part is the dreads

unsurprisingly

bosco can't get nuked by the ghost so just abuse him for the aquarqs

[pliant gate]

stage 1 can be a bit of a troll. We had a bulk detonator at spawn which then triggered the dreadnought on death - apparently the egg must be real close to spawn

[fossil lagoon]

we had a bet c stage 1 of EDD

[woeful quarry]

ouch 😄

[pliant gate]

other than that it's mostly fine, just hug molly for stage 1 and breeze trough the rest

[fossil lagoon]

was helpful

[balmy axle]

keep in mind bulks oneshot dreads if their armor is cracked already

[pliant gate]

ohh good point

[dry stump]

yeah just ignore it

unlike my team

[jolly hazel]

4 players?

[violet oasis]

That EDD was brutal. god damn.

Glad my team was champs.

I didn't go down until the last stage. Then me (gunner) and driller both got our shit rocked. 12 downs for me and 13 for driller.

Though in first stage, drop pod landed on bet-c and killed her suckers. xD

never seen that happen before.

we made it with all 4 surviving. Now I have 14 cores and I still need to do regular DD and core hunt.

scrolling up in here, seems I am not the only one who had some grief from this EDD.

I am usually a haz 3 scrub with some haz 4 runs and usually don't bother with EDD. I've only done like 4.

[thorn patio]

Two manned it in the end

Last mission took like 45 mins alone because of all the pipe bs

Low oxygen is cancer

[violet oasis]

yes

[fossil lagoon]

yep.

[old widget]

At least the low O2 is stage 3, so you can spend that nitra a little more freely for O2 sources

[unkempt saffron]

a lotta swarms on the last stage, quite a tricky one nonetheless

[steep cloud]

EDD has no single really hard point, but is just high intensity all the way through

Basically no time for a breather, all 3 primaries are timed swarms, and all 3 secondaries produce swarms

Feels like you spend most of the time in a swarm

Saving grace is Nitra is very abundant - despite an extremely target rich environment, I never felt like I needed to conserve ammo

[unkempt saffron]

yeah thats a good point, this edd was essentially no chill besides some of the time you spend fixing pipes

[sly raven]

We ran Scout/Driller DD last night and that was far harder than the times I'd run Scout/Bosco solo

My hunch is maybe you run DD solo, or with four people.

[unkempt saffron]

you can run dd with any amount of people and still succeed as long as youre skilled enough

its just a haz 3 mission with more steps really

[sly raven]

The spawns felt out of whack. Seeing 2-3 Wardens up at once buffing Praetorians in some waves. Maybe just a fluke, the runs I've soloed felt much less chaotic.

[unkempt saffron]

maybe, but the spawns have been whack most games for me recently

[spiral panther]

3rd time in a row we got Azure Weald, I guess it is a massive let down

Maybe even 4th

[unkempt saffron]

Next thing you know youll get hollow bough instead with some braincell defying terrain generation

[spiral panther]

The issue I have with AW is that on last gen it runs like garbage most of the time

[valid phoenix]

that edd last stage seems like hell on earth

[digital chasm]

probably is

[unkempt saffron]

Well it is

[lunar aspen]

only Crystalline Caverns

[timber rune]

What does AW mean?

[unkempt saffron]

Its really intense for a stage 3, things keep spawning every other second, and that low o2 dont help too

[spiral panther]

Azure Weald

[stuck tapir]

Hey guy, somewhat new to this server. Was thinking of doing my first DD today, any tips? My gunner is most leveled up so was thinking of using him. Was contemplating taking my chances with randoms but wondering if solo is best for first look.

[old widget]

Do it with randoms

Solo DD/EDD (or DRG in general) makes Karl sad

The game is designed from the ground up for coop

[spring rapids]

DD's aren't so bad, so playing with randoms is fine. Other than that, it's just 3 missions back to back. You keep your nitra, ammo, and hp from before. Although some weapons like c4 seem to get refilled.

[old widget]

(Also, welcome new miner!)

[stuck tapir]

Yea defintely seems to run much better with a coordinated squad. As long as they're competent i guess 🤣

Thank you!!

Been loving this game and ready to try the next step. Not sure how else to prepare for it other than just diving in (pun intended 😅)

[old widget]

This is the way

[stuck tapir]

So if you fail one of the missions you keep the stuff you found tho?

[spring rapids]

No preparation required. Just play the same way you normally play.

[stuck tapir]

Nice that's what I like to hear

Excited to check it out!! I guess EDDs are a whole other story haha

[old widget]

You keep rewards from each stage you successfully complete, yeah. Though repeating a stage (if you fail, say, stage 2 and have to repeat stage 1 to get back to 2) doesn’t get you more matrix cores

[unkempt saffron]

Stick to deep dives first, if you can run haz 4/5 missions rather solidly then you can start considering doing elites since theyre considerably harder than regular DD or even missions for that matter

[stuck tapir]

So deep dives aren't H5s?

Also each stage gives a matrix core?!?

[unkempt saffron]

Deep dives are from haz 3 to 3.5 only

[stuck tapir]

Oh baby

[unkempt saffron]

Each stage gives a core, blank core for stage 1, weapon core for 2, cosmetic core for 3

Elite deep dives have a difficulty scaling of haz 4.5, 5, 5.5

So elites can be pretty damn difficult for the uninitiated

[stuck tapir]

Hell yea appreciate the info guys

[spiral thorn]

3-4

[unkempt saffron]

No, 3, 3.5, 3.5

It does not go to 4

[stray dock]

^

[stuck tapir]

I've got thru some 4s with ease with a good team so hopefully this isn't too bad. Gunna check it out right now!! Did the week just roll over?

[stray dock]

yea, the new dives for this week have started

[unkempt saffron]

Yes it just reset a few hours ago

[stuck tapir]

Damn haha should have to tried yesterday 🤪🤦‍♂️🤣

[unkempt saffron]

You can see the dive details in this channel or in #deep-dive-speedrunning

[stuck tapir]

Perfect

Thx again for all the info guys. Looking forward to this

[sly raven]

People say thorns are bad because of the cooldown but you know as a scout I'd still consider swarmageddon + .75s cooldown thorns to be a goddamn blessing

[jolly hazel]

I've seen 2 at once before

it sucks

[tall meadow]

Crystalline Caverns

It is youngling hour , my dudes

oh wait that salt pits, looks like younglings are still seared in memory

[sly raven]

This week's DD looks awful o.O

Massive Let-down is a great name for it

[stuck tapir]

Awful in a good way? 😅

[grand goblet]

It isn’t that bad, it’s just a regular DD after all. There is dreads on every mission though, just tedious.

[stuck tapir]

Damn

[smoky gorge]

The last stage can be difficult with the ghost + the dread

[spring rapids]

Just keep moving and you'll be good
It's a point extraction, so there's plenty of room to move around and kite

[north urchin]

This week's EDD isn't super hard I haven't seen stage 3 yet but stage 2 seems quite stright forward idk why my team keeps screwing up on it ;p

[main sage]

Finally an EDD without a dread

[uncut dagger]

At least there's no damn shield disruption this week.

Yeah, but the regular DD is filled with dreads.

[winter jolt]

the final mission has the cherry on top

you like bosses? have a free nemesis with your boss fight

[uncut dagger]

A ghost naught.

[winter jolt]

honestly? bulk dets are far worse than dreads

[viral tulip]

Bulk dets are slow and covered in weak points

Worst they can do is fuck up a nice patch of cave

[hoary cove]

not really tbh, all u need is an ifg and theyr easy to kill when 2 or 3 ppl focus on them

[winter jolt]

i mean yeah

i just get jumped by them so therefore bad

[viral tulip]

They announce their presence pretty loudly

Should hear them long before you see them

[timber rune]

I have learned from a young age to never announce my presence loudly. If I would enter a room too loud my caretakers would get angry and then it was back in the cage in the basement with the raisins again :(

[hoary cove]

you can hear them coming once you learn how they sound

[winter jolt]

shhhhh

[old widget]

like a glyphid diesel engine idling

[woeful patrol]

What's your best advice for the Escort Duty in the EDD ?

[tranquil apex]

how do people give their deepdives a name?

I dont see the option only for passwordd

[burnt sandal]

you mean the lobby name ?

it's in the options

[tranquil apex]

ah yeah ty

just saw that now, was doing the normal DD

[pallid maple]

For a level without mactera plague the EDD second stage sure spared no expense on spawning them

[scenic flicker]

the second stage is a nghtmare with that overspawn and reg bugs

[woeful patrol]

I died at the escape pod during the last mission of the EDD, the drop pod got stuck in a weird area and a leech grabbed me stealing me of my only hope

[scenic flicker]

we ran out of ammo on the last stage

and yes no nitra left

[jade tusk]

That's an oof there. Remember to conserve ammo when possible a weaken lone bug coming at you introduce them to your trusty pick ax

[scenic flicker]

i know im 339 the problem was our greenbeard died all the time so we lost valuable time (still our fault ^^ just saying) but stage 2 eats a lot of ammo thats a fact

[jade tusk]

And green beards. The perfect bug fodder Within reason

[jolly hazel]

40 minute deep dive

could have been quicker

[scenic flicker]

lmao i struggle like nothing and you come and be like : 40min couldve been faster. youre a true greybeard you have my respect we took over 1.5 h and still failed

[jolly hazel]

on edd or dd

[scenic flicker]

EDD

[jolly hazel]

oh doing edd now

[scenic flicker]

im dumb i just read EDD my fault😅

[violet oasis]

I spent a lot of time hanging with driller so I didn't constantly run out of ammo.

He had freezethrower

[jade tusk]

Wiped on the DD due to a very bad swarm timing and the horror surprise coming out of a hole from digging? My partner went down Iron will to revive me, but before the revive could finish. Roller just yeets him across the map

[scenic flicker]

i prefer the sludge but freezer is still a bit broken imo :F

[violet oasis]

That friggin 3rd stage was chaos and we really had to boogie to the wells

[scenic flicker]

thats what i meant

[violet oasis]

I was in EDD yeah.

I got my shit rocked.

first 2 stages were OK. but stage 3 went to hell. Me and driller got knocked down 12 and 13 times. the scout twice and engi 3 times.

we got it though.

[random rampart]

I hope it got stoned too

[violet oasis]

no. just rocked.

[jade tusk]

HOw is EDD stage 3 like? I heard you really need a driller or you're gonna have a bad time is that true

[random rampart]

Just rocked? Not rocknstoned?

[violet oasis]

I was getting quite rustled thinking I was going to end up throwing it on us because I fucked up a couple times but all 4 of us got out

[random rampart]

Pretty leaf-lover to me

[violet oasis]

and yeah. you will want a driller unless you like getting eaten while asphyxiating in a maze of ice

[jade tusk]

I know what class I'm playing when I do EDD. The 2nd predator of scouts, eater of stones, and the most insane of the bunch. Driller

[lunar aspen]

It's ice this week? I did the EDD and don't recall ice

[violet oasis]

the other guys were absolute champs though. They said I am too hard on myself and I did fine. They were all 200 levels above me and said it was brutal AF

[odd rover]

Crystalline this week, no?

[violet oasis]

yeah.

#deep-dive-discussion message

[hardy nacelle]

man stage 2 DD has a shitload of leeches in one small area

it's not even cave leech cluster, there's just like 6 of them in one cave

[odd rover]

No dreads on EDD is a week for driller.

[river pawn]

protect the drilldozer again

sigh!

[odd rover]

Are there bulks, though?

[dusty meadow]

Did edd this morning. Aint bad, finished under an hour. Stage 3 was a tad tricky due to low o2 and where the wells were at. It can be easy to get caught spread apart in a swarm.

[meager wyvern]

it always is

[violet oasis]

we got a double swarm when we pulled egg.

Just bad timing. Swarm egg plus regular swarm 2 seconds later.

Should have paid attention to when the last swarm came

[violet oasis]

Bulks do not appear to be consistent in seeds. We had some in our run.

Someone else might know more.

[barren prism]

I just looked at this weeks deep dives...... guess i won't be doing them this week...

[barren prism]

Also IIRC only stationary enemies such as Spitballers and Cave Leeches are seeded, all others are random

[violet oasis]

Our extraction drop pod landed on bet-c on first stage. xD

[pallid maple]

Any preset spawn is seeded, including the huuli at first stage

[odd rover]

Not really asking if they will spawn, more-so if they can spawn, so this answers my question.

Thanks.

[amber belfry]

Man, we reached the last stage of he EDD, everything was going well. And the refinery spawned in a giant vertical pit.

and shenanigans ensued

[waxen arrow]

Just finished the EDD on 1st try

The finale map layout is fubar

Had to position multiple supply pods around the map to ensure easy access of o2

Getting the pipes setup is the hard part, it's generally okay after that

The refinery location itself can be a death trap if you're not constantly checking your back

Regular Deep Dive is a lot of fun though, plenty of Dreadnoughts to kill

[jolly hazel]

wow

some real shitters came out of the woodwork this week

driller who cannot drill

[hardy nacelle]

ngl double drillers on this week's EDD sounds like it could work

[jade tusk]

Oof. Wiped on the 3rd stage of the EDD due to a very unlucky Oppressor/ Paterion wave. Stage 3 has a very mean refinery set up.

[hardy nacelle]

we had a scout join, ask if anyone has already done it, then immediately leave when we say no

[jolly hazel]

fella wants to get carried

[hardy nacelle]

I think he was gold 3

[meager wyvern]

they can still suck ass

[jade tusk]

As long the driller has enough brain cells at his job. You should be fine barring any sort of DRG bad luck

This week of Deep dives gimmicks is "Really annoying modifiers for the finale of the dive"

[twilit night]

Wait so am I the only one whos EDD is the same as last weeks?

[jade tusk]

Your EDD should have long since rotated

[twilit night]

Right the regular DD is new, I fired up the EDD and it was the sandblasted corridors again. Team got destroyed on the mactera stage 2.

[burnt sandal]

resync your system clokc if that's the case

[twilit night]

Still got all the rewards I should have.

[meager wyvern]

If that would be the case can I just then change my clock and do all the edd from past year

[jade tusk]

Stage 2 of the old EDD is brutal. Actually helps to make a bunker for uplink and fuel storage holdouts (Remember kids: The difference between a bunker and tomb is a escape plan)

[burnt sandal]

technically, yes I guess

not sure that's quite how it works but feel free to experiment

[twilit night]

Yeah I finished last weeks last week. We had another bunker earlier today, that a bulk det immediately spawned on.

[meager wyvern]

at least if you don't restart after the reset then the new ones are not there

I know that at least

[jade tusk]

Yeah. The good old "Fuck you" surprise

[weary radish]

the regular deepdive was fun but stressful as a soloplayer this week

on stage 2, a bunch of cave leeches appeared near the DP and kept dropping me down a massive pit

[jade tusk]

Heightened sense helps for stage 2 of DD

[hardy nacelle]

there's two mineral hoarders in DD again

[jade tusk]

One in the first stage where you spawn in and 2nd one in the 2nd stage in the dreadnaught room with a few leechs

[amber belfry]

The third stage of EDD is hard, anyone else having problems finishing it?

I am doing it in public lobbies.

[worthy hill]

i just finished it with my friend, luckily one of us was the driller or that would have taken way too long

[fleet yarrow]

god daaaaamn stage 3 on the EDD was hell

why in the world did that refinery spawn all the way inside that pit

[amber belfry]

Someone in HQ can't math.

[jade tusk]

Stage 3 of EDD requires a driller or else you'll be chewing through all the Nitra from the last 2 stages for all the O2 checkpoints

But I have feeling next week EDD it's gonna be nitra starved again

[green frost]

I didn't have much issues with my public team on this weeks EDD, got it done on my first try, though having a full spread out team really helped on stage 3 for sure

[unkempt saffron]

Stage 3 really needs your team to get the ball rolling asap, and a healthy amount of resups spread around the refinery and pumpjacks so that you dont die of hypoxia

[jolly hazel]

there's quite a bit in that side room

of nitra that is

[unkempt saffron]

No doubt theres plenty of nitra, even for stage 2 theres an excess

[jolly hazel]

scout and driller need to be on top of tbings

[unkempt saffron]

Stage 3 main issue is its odd cave gen and its tendencies to throw enemies whenever youre preoccupied with other things

[green frost]

Yeah me as the scout being on top of getting resources throughout the dive helped a lot, we had lots of resups for stage 3. but then again, I main scout, so I'm always pretty on top of getting stuff so long as the engi helps me haha. I have yet to do a dive where I didn't have most minerals mined yet

[lunar helm]

You have to be a pretty bad scout to not have most minerals mined over 3 missions

Or a very dysfunctional team

[tranquil apex]

wtf, this dude instantly popped the dread in the first lvl of the DD and then left

left us fighting a dread with only 3 and no nitra

[unkempt saffron]

Standard griefing, youll get em from time to time

[green frost]

fair enough lmao

[outer beacon]

I tried doing the EDD with a friend and a couple of randoms just once, and I get a Driller that was one star and player level 50 and wasn't even using his drills, I mean for real, but much worse than him, was 1 gold star Engi who was just being a total ass to everyone and trying to speedrun the whole thing.

Gold star and I still wouldn't trust him to carry my luggage out of my car trunk.

[unkempt saffron]

Try running it duos with your friend, at the very least you can play it how you want, or get some extra players from this discord

[outer beacon]

Yeah, I'll try tomorrow. Players like that Engi just completely suck out my energy to play, personally, but besides that, this dive is just exhausting and not in a fun way.

I feel like I can't catch a single moment where I can just get my bearings and do the objective, it's constant.

[tranquil apex]

in my situation we did end up finishing the dive as a 3 man even with him trolliing, I've done the last like 2 months worth of dives/edd's fine with just pubs

not meeting many bad apples either

[unkempt saffron]

Its moreso overwhelming with the amount of bug spawns, but just keep your head up and youll get through it eventually

[outer beacon]

Yeah, I'll just have to tough it out. Though a lot of this dive has felt frustrating like hell.

At the end of stage one, seemed like the drop pod just got all the way to the end and I had to fall and tank the fall damage, or stage 3 just spawning the minehead at the bottom of the pit

That on top of the constant bug spawns, it's a nightmare.

[jolly hazel]

yeah the spawns felt

unfair

for refinery

tbh

[azure wagon]

What does the level have to do with it ;-;
I did EDD just fine today and I am level 56...

some people learn fast

some learn slow

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[outer beacon]

It's not really about their level, it's just that I was shocked he was like, player level 50 and he wasn't even using his drills, and we tried explaining to him and the man was still just pickaxing. More of a surprise but yeah, just never ran into a player like them before.

At least they had a good attitude towards losing, which I commend over the Engi just saying 'URE ALL SO BAD' while he was constantly dying and wasting nitra

[azure wagon]

fair, with a promoted Driller you at least played him till lvl 25...
I get your surprise, I feel like he was trolling you

[azure wagon]

I met one of these douches too on a normal haz 4 egghunt.
The Gunner pulled out all the eggs at once (they were cluszeted up) and triggered 3 swarms.
When we asked him wtf, he was saying that it was 'just haz 4' and that he wants to speedrun 'this shit'...
Damn these elitists are sure annoying.

I wish you good luck on the EDD.
:)

[jolly hazel]

player level generally correlates to game time correlting to experience

its unreliable but its the only metric to judge/vet by

[outer beacon]

Thank you! Yeah, unfortunately you just meet players like these every now and then, but oh well. Next time they show a sign of doing something like this, it's just an instant kick.

[azure wagon]

yea

[outer beacon]

Yeah, though I've found player level also isn't always an indicator of a good player. I've just as often met players around my level (early 100s or under it) that are terrific team players and I love 'em.

[azure wagon]

Hehe
that one haz 4 lobby I had to carry where the dude with gold 2 star promotion kept dying.
Not saying I am very good tho, still lack a bit of aim and game knowledge :)

[jolly hazel]

thats why I said unreliable

I was carrying before 100 as well

not to toot my own horn

but for some reason this is some peoples first fps lol

[jolly hazel]

ya I run into those too, also level editor 1000+ people who are awful

[outer beacon]

Well, just to not veer too far out of the channel topic already, I'll say DRG is relatively easy to pick up and it's a fairly welcoming game to new players.

[azure wagon]

tbf, this is my seconf fps, with tf2 being my first xD

but I know a dude where this was his first first person game ever

[azure wagon]

Level editor?

[jolly hazel]

well tf2 teaches a lot

I cant go into it further than that

other than u can edit saves

[azure wagon]

hehe heh (cries inside cause 500h and still shit at game)

[jolly hazel]

good players are at like 3k plus

[azure wagon]

soznds counterproductove

[jolly hazel]

tbh

[jolly hazel]

internet points and insecurity

[azure wagon]

stupid

.

anyways, good luck on your EDDs
I was lucky to get sone nice people here on the server to do it with me.
It is def. doable but the Second mission slaps a bit :)

[outer beacon]

I'll just say I'm close to 3k and still suck. But anyway, yeah.

[azure wagon]

PS. There is a Spitballer behind the Heartstone, ot teamwhiped us yesterday, be carefull xD

[outer beacon]

Third mission made me miss the second mission because at least I don't have to mine all the way up for all the liquid morkite on top of dealing with the swarms and the eggs.

[jolly hazel]

there were 2

behind hearthstone

iirc

for some reason our 1st and 2nd attempts

both with 4

were slightly different

[azure wagon]

I think it was 1 + a Nexus

but maybe I missremember

also leech at drop pod in mission 1 xD

[tranquil apex]

if you want to know more just google deep rock save editor or something, im sure itll pop up

i wouldnt really save edit a pve game though as what else is there to do at that point

[violet oasis]

Some scout did that to my crew too. Wonder if it was the same dude.

We rolled it with just the 3 of us anyway

[tranquil apex]

mine was our engi, he had balls in his name

[violet oasis]

Don't remember the name of who did us dirty.

Was kind of a pain in the ass but we got through.

[tranquil apex]

its not so bad because its the normal dive, on a edd I woulda prob restarted

[violet oasis]

Dreads with haunted cave is balls.

[tranquil apex]

that one really wasnt that bad because the opening area is so big

[violet oasis]

Just annoying

Like every haunted cave mission

[leaden jacinth]

Why are Mactera Grabbers either really dumb or really horrifying and smart.

I just had a EDD where the grabber grabbed me with all of my 3 teammates down, made me low on o2, then put me behind a wall where it is impossible to get to the refinery. Shortly after I then suffocated and died, it's probably the worst down I've ever had.

[violet oasis]

just ran the DD with 2 scouts and the lacerator kept trying to shunt me back to the space rig. xD

Glad I had ziplines all over or I would have died to fall damage like 6 times

Take my eyes off them to find the ghost and then I get YOTE to the ceiling and desperately waft toward a zipline to save myself.

That one was fun.

[mortal fjord]

EDD stage 3 engie leaves

[dense pond]

hey folks, how's this EDD like?

[swift snow]

uh just curious: in the keybinds, y'all have "shout" set to the X key, right?

is it normal to have it bring out the laser pointer when you hold the button down?

[violet oasis]

seems to be

never tried. does for me

[swift snow]

yeah, i found it annoying when I'm holding on to something, want to hit the shout key but accidentally drop what I was holding

[hardy nacelle]

yes, a hundred times this

laser pointer and shout are doublebound to the same button for some ungodly reason and I've never been able to find out why

[swift snow]

ok so i'm NOT crazy then

I thought it's some sort of game glitch or something when that happens

wait... is this a bug or a feature?

cuz IMO this is a "frustrating feature". Or a bug.

[hardy nacelle]

I have literally no idea why laser pointer is bound to both holding X and holding ctrl

[swift snow]

maybe it's for controller users?

but accidentally brought over for keyboard users?

[hardy nacelle]

can't be, because mouse and keyboard was first

[twilit night]

Yeah that's how it is on controller.

[swift snow]

so controllers don't have a dedicated laser pointers button, hence the shout and laser pointer share the same button, am I guessing this right?

[twilit night]

Right. R1 is shout, hold for laser.

[swift snow]

huh. wish there was a option to disable this for keyboard users tho.

[twilit night]

Making it so I accidently yell at my team when I'm trying to find out where they went sometimes.

It's vitally important that salute is it's own button though.

Not even kidding.

[balmy axle]

EDD solo review - Fearless Drift:
First attempt as Engineer went poorly after getting deleted by BET-C twice and getting stuck in a dead end with no aquarqs. Against my better judgement, second attempt as Scout. Still went down to BET-C in stage 1, but the rest of the mission was a bit of a stomp. There's a leech that might be waiting to Kaizo trap you if the drop pod happens to land there.
Stage 2 was... basically standard haz5 Escort Duty. Steeve saved the day here, probably getting more kills than me and not dying a single time, because a Scout really isn't equipped for the final defense stage whatsoever. Ended up rep-tanking Dotty for the last quarter of the fight. Ended with no downs left and no armor left on Dotty, for probably obvious reasons. No EggsD, at least for me, so don't bother digging ahead. Regen bugs, as always, mostly just buffs Steeve.
Stage 3 reminded me I was playing Scout, because none of the pumpjacks are in decent spots. You can abuse level geometry to get the nearest one without any mining, and the second-nearest one with only a bit of mining if you use the refinery itself to get it higher up, but there's one that basically requires tunneling. Also finished this stage with no downs left, thanks to tri-jaws and shellbacks oneshotting me multiple times. Oxygen surprisingly wasn't much of an issue, but then again, Scout.
Overall: Maybe don't solo this EDD as Scout. Engineer is probably the best idea if the bar's selling something to help with mining, Driller's also a good pick but getting the more vertical ones in stage 3 without falling off and dying will be annoying if your pipe-fu isn't up to snuff. Gunner is probably the worst choice to solo, just because of the final stage.

[spring axle]

Anyone have issues with no sentinels spawning on stage 2 of the normal dive this week? We're very casually waiting for them right now.

[balmy axle]

probably hiding in a cave system

[spring axle]

thats what I thought but we've checked every inch and they're not spawning. Think we're going to have to restart the run, that's annoying.

[balmy axle]

hiveguard glitches a lot

[hardy nacelle]

if you stay in their face for a while they'll spawn

[glossy walrus]

I had no issues with making drill paths to all 3 pumpjacks without any worry of falling

mostly a matter of choosing your route to go through solid rock rather than through gaps

generally straight lines too, other than the left one where I had to do some spiraling to get that high

[shrewd lichen]

I got lucky on the yeah I did gunner solo EDD. After scrambling around some supply pods for air for about 20 minutes trying to figure out how I was going to do that stage, I gave up.

Oops not lucky not sure why that text was there.

[glossy walrus]

left and right pumpjacks look painful without a driller yeah

[balmy axle]

you can abuse the refinery geometry to the point where you only need to dig out like 4 chunks to get to the top

[glossy walrus]

can you lay pipes on the refinery itself or something?

[balmy axle]

yes

[glossy walrus]

huh never knew, but I guess I've never seen a refinery placed in such a small cave like this before, so never needed to try

[cursive cedar]

menace spawn non-stop?

yes

[soft token]

what’s the current deep dive like

in terms of objectives

[cursive cedar]

check pin

[soft token]

based

[cursive cedar]

have menace spawn non-stop and sometimes 2 at the same time getting jizzed by it

[soft token]

speaking of which what’s the best Cryo Cannon setup for dreadnoughts

since this deep dive has 6 of em

[cursive cedar]

best OC for cyro cannon? Clean OC

[soft token]

no not over clock just the mods

the game refuses to give me driller overclocks

[cursive cedar]

i would go for 3 2 1 3 2

[soft token]

gotcha

[cursive cedar]

u can go for ammo on 2nd mod

[shut oracle]

i like no spinup delay over +1 freeze but thats more personal

as im inside swarm alot and that 0,5 sec could kill me on high haz

[wraith shard]

why did you fight bet-c at all?

she's off in a corner with nothing relevant near her

[balmy axle]

ammo saving

[wraith shard]

you're in a PE

[balmy axle]

yes

[wraith shard]

fighting betc is a waste of time and ammo

[balmy axle]

i am a genius

[wraith shard]

you are obviously not a genius if you killed yourself twice doing it

[cursive lodge]

Edd complete !! 💪

[tranquil apex]

😂 the scout on my 4 man pub of it was like guys do we want to fight this bet-c & I was the only one to say 'no' as we had no reason to fight it.

it's up in the corner on a ledge, tf we fighting it for

you can even get the nitra without alerting it

[hardy nacelle]

my team fought it because it was there

we shredded it

two out of the three times it did the mortar circle I ran inside the shield and beat the shit out of it

[fallow spruce]

Hmmm ...For solo scout was hard, stage 3 .... the hardest imo. EDD 8/10 , but with full party 5/10 🙂

[atomic prawn]

refinery low o2, ain't too bad

mighty inconvenient tho

[hardy nacelle]

on it's own, it's fine

the map is just so bad

[dapper musk]

Hey, so what are the chances of completing a Deep Dive solo for a newbie that can mostly pull off hazard 3s? With Driller specifically

I did it with two people before

as in , me and another friend who is as fresh as I am

[atomic prawn]

that's fine, DD doesn't stray far from haz 3

[hardy nacelle]

DD's are easy

if you can do a haz 4 you can defintely do a DD

[woeful patrol]

I'm still mad about dying at the end of the stage 3 of EDD

Thank god it's just for a cosmetic

But still, getting killed when I was boarding the escape pod

[hardy nacelle]

😬

[dapper musk]

OK then, here we go bois

[jolly hazel]

how did it go

[jade tusk]

During my DD run yesterday my group ask if you want to deal with it. My response was "Only if its in the way of our objective" and since it wasn't we didn't deal with it, but the drop pod did drop near it, but by the time it could do damage. We had long since escaped

[jolly hazel]

drop pod killed it round 1

narrowly missed it without damaging it round 2

[ruby osprey]

EDD 3 suuuucks

[jolly hazel]

need a good driller

nitra surplus at stage 3 though

[brisk pagoda]

yall dont click that

[ruby osprey]

<@&296918282403840000>

[gloomy arrow]

yaaaaaa sure thing KEKW

[jolly hazel]

discordl

lol

[violet oasis]

Drop pod landed ON bet-C and killed it and we had to repair her to get into the pod since she was blocking the door. xD

[jolly hazel]

lol

you will save me

[jade tusk]

Bet-C go squish

[violet oasis]

wish I had thought to take a screenshot

[jade tusk]

With how DRG is at times. I believe you. The game is full of surprises

[dapper musk]

Goddamn, is this dreadnought week or what

Playing deep dive solo for the first time, I reached stage 3

pray to Karl for me brothers

that I return alive from the final act

[jolly hazel]

it took you 2 and a half hours?

[jade tusk]

DRG does that sometimes. Just decides to go "Fuck you in particular" and does everything it can to screw you over

[dapper musk]

Nahh, I had to leave after the first deep dive for an hour

It waits as long as needed between stages

I did it by the way

This run probably cemented Driller as my main

I never felt lacking, neither in AOE, single target damage or manueverability

plus vampire helped a ton with survival

[jade tusk]

Driller I find to be best overall Solo class imo

[dapper musk]

I can totally see why

plus, ammo economy with cryo gun is great for me

even busco's shots start packing a hit when enemies are frozen

[jade tusk]

Driller solves most problems you may encounter

[dapper musk]

im curious to see what he cannot solve

[jade tusk]

Dreadnaughts generally. He really doesn't have good options against dreads

[jolly hazel]

what do u mean leave

like just paused?

[dapper musk]

Yeah, I just went away from my pc

After I finished the first one

I left it at the "Success" screen

[jolly hazel]

ohh ok

[dapper musk]

Dreads can be frozen, and if you axe them, you can do a ton of damage. Hiveguard was a cakewalk

the twins though were not

I couldn't burst them down, otherwise they'd heal off each other. So I had to constantly keep track of both

But around 50% HP, with a powerstrike, a rocket salvo from Busco, and two axes, I could eviscerate one

whilst frozen

[jolly hazel]

well

its probably more of a pain in the ass to split twins damage

when u can't deal much to arbalest unless it comes down

[dapper musk]

SCREW arbalest

had him bombing me from every direction, while having the invisible detonator and the wave following me

felt so good to axe him down at the end

[jolly hazel]

how long did it take

the deep dive

[dapper musk]

am I allowed to post screens here?

[random rampart]

Maybe try #drg-gallery

[jolly hazel]

I think u can link it

no images

so like if u upload to catbox or something

[dapper musk]

thank you

ok

ah, it did

k I posted it in gallery

it says 59 minutes, but I am unsure from when it counts and where it stops

[jolly hazel]

good time

that kill count is super low

though I guess only one swarm type mission

[dapper musk]

how much do you average?

[jolly hazel]

well with 4 man I usually have 600

maybe a bit less

[dapper musk]

darn

I think that enemy spawn rates change dramatically , the larger the squad is though

[jolly hazel]

I usually super try hard with gunner though

yeah

its a lot less on haz 3 solo

and yeah cryo driller deals with everything well

except maybe menaces

and multiple spitballers

close together

[dapper musk]

I guess I am lucky that I chose to max this class out first then

[jolly hazel]

yeah, really simple game plan

other classes do other things better but as long as you understand positioning and keep moving its hard to get caught with cryo

[dapper musk]

I see. Good to know man. Hey, do you think that Gunner could pull off solo without a ton of hassle too?

I got a friend who mains him

[jolly hazel]

yes

with autocannon

maybe minigun cuz of dreads

aquarq will be a little slower but you can kill far away bugs

[dapper musk]

I see. Hey, slow and steady, as long as the mission gets done

If the minigun is superior for dreads, then Ill definitely recommend it to him over his precious auto for this week's run lmao'

[jolly hazel]

auto can do ok damage to dreads but if he brings something with swarm clear for secondary it should be fine

[gray igloo]

Is the deep dive the best Way to earn battle pass xp?

[tulip idol]

I don't think so

[jolly hazel]

no

follow the dailies

and double xp

[sonic sandal]

this week's EDD was a walk in the park

only tricky bit was one of the pipelines on the third mission was in an awkward room for dealing with oppressors IMO

[shut oracle]

damn that swarms at drilldozer

[burnt sandal]

no, it's the worst way

[random rampart]

Nope, since the xp you get from it counts as 1 mission towards the pass and not 3. It's better in number terms to do 3 individual missions

[jolly hazel]

does it count for 3 now