deep-dive-discussion

[hoary cove]

do u know how em discharge works?

[jolly hazel]

I usually keep the turrets out of grunts path

[hoary cove]

yes but em discharge is a different playstyle, and a very powerful one at that

iv carried a lot of teams by soloing swarms with it alone

[jolly hazel]

yeah its a direct damage nerf lol

I dont find it very useful because it seems like ghetto turret whip and id just apply electric with shots anyways

[hoary cove]

it takes a few shots to kill a group of grunts with it, especially on a mission like drilldozer where u can predict bug paths

[jolly hazel]

or i could just shoot a pgl at them lol

[rough kite]

AFAIK EM discharge's niche is being hilariously ammo efficient if you set it up right

Which is useful on the stubby because by golly its ammo efficiency sucks

Even more than other engi primaries

[jolly hazel]

eh

I think poorly built lok 1

can take the cake

[hoary cove]

it doesn’t, ppl just don’t make good use of the cc

[hoary cove]

em discharge can do what clean sweep can do with less then a mag

[jolly hazel]

in what time frame though

[rough kite]

The CC takes an age to kill anything and requires multiple applications to kill even a basic grunt

[jolly hazel]

without prep

fire and forget has its perks

[hoary cove]

what prep? i just move the turrets where i need to whenever i want

[jolly hazel]

yeah thats 2 seconds per turret without travel time

[hoary cove]

2 seconds?

where are u getting that

[tall meadow]

you folks do know that em discharge can be triggered without building said turrets

[rough kite]

FYI, a single electrical debuff proc deals 36 damage

[hoary cove]

em discharge is so busted, it’s one of the few builds i’m comfortable running on modded haz levels

[jolly hazel]

so you are just laying nodes down and then running?

generally I don't run into ammo issues on edd

besides whichever week recently was in hollow bough

had to kill the hiveguard with pickaxes

an entire phase with just pickaxes

[hoary cove]

ammo efficiency is just the icing on the cake with it

[jolly hazel]

eh

I'm fine with mag pellet and clean sweep and I still do haha funny engie top score

I'll try it out tonight though

are you just predicting where bugs will be and putting the node down and not building?

[meager wyvern]

I have mastered dreads with my cryo driller no deaths nothing

[hoary cove]

if i’m defending something i use plats to make chokepoints. If not then i just constantly move them to where the bugs are

[meager wyvern]

Rock and stone

[jolly hazel]

congrats now do it by sound only

[jolly hazel]

ok and tbats with hyperpropellant secondary? I'm still not 100% exactly sure on when bugs will just walk through my scary jumpscare platform maze or over it

[meager wyvern]

If the sounds would be more precise maybe

[jolly hazel]

dread footsteps get worryingly loud when its chasing you

also I've kinda figured out the audio threshold for dread aoe

[hoary cove]

once u learn how it works, it’s not hard to do

[meager wyvern]

But it is hard to tell direction if it is hiding in wall etc

[jolly hazel]

yeah u get one look at the cave then the blindfold goes on

hope you have a good sense of direction

[meager wyvern]

I don't

[jolly hazel]

I know how it works, I just can't be assed to attempt the 2x distance calculation in my head lol

[meager wyvern]

I had detonator spawn under the drill before it was activated from the cage. It exploded out of nowhere and did not damage to me while destroying the area still

I didn't even shoot it

[jolly hazel]

did it get hit by it?

[meager wyvern]

It was not moving it was still in the cage before pressing it open

Like at the start

[jolly hazel]

how did the detonator die then

[meager wyvern]

I have no clue

I should have videod it damn

Also made no sense that blast did not even damage me

I could say got lucky but we had like 3 of them in the run 🤡

[wraith shard]

speed run strat

[upbeat obsidian]

I hope the folks complaining about build time for using EM Discharge know you can use it on unbuilt turrets... 😬

[old widget]

I might be the only dwarf that tears down turrets when using EM Discharge

I like knowing I can build them in ~2 seconds anywhere vs. variable wait time for them to fly in while I get monched

[jolly hazel]

damn almost like it was already said

[old widget]

reading is hard

[jolly hazel]

(not directed at u btw)

will try em discharge tonight but I cant tear myself away from gunner shield responsibility in edd lol

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[alpine meadow]

Deep Rock really need to invest in better ai

[floral meteor]

@alpine meadow I hope you're joking lol

[unkempt saffron]

I wish em was somewhat more consistent on unbuilt turrets

[azure lance]

Anyone willing to help me do EDD?

[jolly hazel]

try #lfg channels

[left grove]

This weeks EDD whooped my ass.

[upbeat obsidian]

It's the same as built turrets, wdym?

[dark vector]

was going great for me until someone decided to teamkill us all on level 2 and then suicide

[left grove]

Damn that’s horrible, I’ve mainly been playing solo. Kinda hard to find a good dedicated team. But yea I didn’t make it out of stage 2 also.

[jolly hazel]

not rock and stone

[coarse latch]

Anyone else get 2 bulk detonators on stage 2 of this weeks EDD?

[jolly hazel]

its rng

some people get them some dont

I think someone got 4?

[misty nest]

Still new to Deep Dives in general and their difficulty curves , so a quick question: are Deep Dives doable with randoms?

Same question for EDDs

[atomic prawn]

Yeah they are

but like, with random's it's all up to chance 😂

[jolly hazel]

if you are asking that question you may run into problems

[atomic prawn]

be the random who causes DD/EDDs to fail 😂

[jolly hazel]

dd should be fairly simple given you can handle haz 3

edd is 4.5/5/5.5

[misty nest]

Alright, thanks. So pick-up squad is fine straight into DD, maybe one normal mission with a squad before EDD

[unkempt saffron]

If your DD buddies are good, you can try asking them to do the EDD together too

Or like you said, a solid haz5 mission or two to get into the mood and wrangle them with an EDD

[opal kraken]

doretta will kill any bug that goes under it

even if it isnt moving

[opal kraken]

you could feasably do deep dives without a resupply

[misty nest]

Deep Dive: laughs in double elimination missions

[floral meteor]

Having dotty run over korloks and BET-Cs is fun

[graceful needle]

This edd was pretty chill

First edd in a while both my buddy and I didn't get downed

Doretta drilling into the egg stage 2 was fun lol

For people struggling with higher haz elims, setup platform jungle gym with some gaps between em to force dreads to take the long way around every time you jump from plat to plat

Dreads just end up running around on the floor doing nothing while you knock em, you can easily take little to no damage during any dread fight doin this as long as you dodge the fireballs

[open ledge]

What time does the reset occur?

Is it a synchronized time worldwide?

[wraith shard]

I believe so
For CST it's at 5AM on Friday

11AM UTC on Thursday

[sly kettle]

The Deep Dive starts in roughly 3½ hours from this comment.

[hoary cove]

Thursday morning for NA east i think

[meager wyvern]

Phew did the edd

Me driller my friend gunner and random engineer

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[exotic mirage]

what kind of leaf loving ale is mission control drinking

[burnt sandal]

error cube beer

[random rampart]

Coobeer

[meager wyvern]

This was my first edd I did so can I expect them to be easier or harder from now on?

[loud nexus]

New Deep Dives soon. Gonna say, Im kind of excited

It has been 15 years or so Ive been this excited about games 😄

[meager wyvern]

many years for me also

before drg

[dawn sphinx]

the last one was pretty harsh tbh, the one from two or three weeks ago was so much easier. also this crystalline cavern one could also be even worse with things like "elite threat" mutator, so yeah, things can be worse, but gotta get really unlucky with mutators

[meager wyvern]

maybe they will have the ghost this time and armor distruption

😅

[balmy axle]

i feel like lethal enemies transport where dotty breaks through both eggs (i had her BREAK ONE WHEN LANDING once) is, like, top 10 for worst things this game can throw at you

actually she did it twice

i forgot to screencap both times though

[meager wyvern]

cryo driller can freeze all crazy swarms ez lifehack

[dawn sphinx]

bruuuh fr? i thought my fren scout broke them, good thing i wasnt blaming him

[balmy axle]

literally not even dig through

the goddamn cargo pod landed on the egg and of course it was the horde one

[meager wyvern]

it didn't break them for me

[balmy axle]

it actually happened on my final run too but i could see the waiting egg there and just had bosco mine it and camped the horde out in the drop pod

[meager wyvern]

I took the 1st egg before starting drill

[balmy axle]

i swear

there has to be a var somewhere

"force doretta to break through egg"

[dawn sphinx]

how much bulks you guys got btw? i got 3. Two of them simultaneously too

[meager wyvern]

one try I got 3 clear run 1 I think

I felt more time you take more detonators

[loud nexus]

I agree this made the newest EDD really hard

[balmy axle]

also

[loud nexus]

Got three detonators as well

[balmy axle]

lethal enemies escort in general

[loud nexus]

But not simultaneously

[balmy axle]

stage 4 of the heartstone is just "spam your power weapon at dotty and hope enough of them die and she has enough hp"

oh yeah the detonators too

i only got 1 on my last attempt

but most of the time i got 2

[meager wyvern]

Our clear run was funny for 2nd mission I killed our eng with c4 as he dashed to it when there was biggest swarm ever then when we went back to pod he wasted 1 loot crate by ordering it accidentally and no one could take it

[balmy axle]

i almost died on the way to the pod too

[meager wyvern]

oh yeah forgot to say I killed him during the start of last phase in the drill

I was like oh fuck I failed this for us but managed it

😅

I will go to the new edd straight at listing time

[pastel wasp]

muffin cat on the ball here

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[pastel wasp]

bot pls

[balmy axle]

bad formatting

or maybe that's on purpose and the joke is the mission control guy writes shit code

[north urchin]

Because he can't right at all 🙂

[balmy axle]

i wouldn't be surprised if mission control couldn't read

[meager wyvern]

Azure again for dd

[pastel wasp]

mission controls strings been broken since 6 jan it seems

[north urchin]

He can speak though

[pastel wasp]

well,m 10th but yeh

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Peeled Sleep
Stage 1: 7 Aquarq + 📡 1 Black Box | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | Critical Weakness Swarmageddon
Stage 3: 7 Aquarq + 2 Eggs | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Endless Walk
Stage 1: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + Dreadnought Twins | Exploder Infestation
Stage 2: 3 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Classic | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption

[balmy axle]

endless walk
refine morkite

seems about right

shield disruption is rough but it's hazard 3 lol

[sly kettle]

Riding on pipes ain't walking tho

[crimson tinsel]

Exploders are at least highly visibly in sandblasted, especially in a wide open space for refining

[balmy axle]

exploders are way less of a threat when you can ride a pipe and they never hit you

sandblasted + exploder is a terrifying combination any other time though

have fun moving at 30% speed while the funny oneshot bugs sprint at you

[vocal saddle]

deep dive time

[signal pawn]

https://giphy.com/gifs/gregorybrothers-spider-spider-man-pizza-time-RNbnHs0clBV7nT8PxB

[vocal saddle]

awaiting dive info bruh noo

[unkempt saffron]

stage 1 refinery + dread + exploders + sandblasted corridors
hey ive heard of that one before

[true saffron]

EDD Stage 2: 3 mules, 1 dread, mactera plague

[balmy axle]

significantly more generous than lethal enemies

[jade gorge]

heck yeah, i did last weeks EDD with 9 mins to spare.... probs about attempt 14...

(my first EDD)... bless

what a time

[ebon anchor]

Your first edd is one of the harder ones

Must be quite an experience

[jade gorge]

was great, frothing the difficulty when things get evry bad

felt very raidish which is nice

[balmy axle]

is anyone running the normal DD

i'll blast through it if not

[jade gorge]

not atm 🙂

[quiet mortar]

Haven't found one :(

[uneven mountain]

Regular DD stage 2: Escort + 2 alien eggs, no modifiers

[balmy axle]

nice

[analog slate]

Loved last week's deep dive, a good challenge!

[pallid maple]

I'm running last week's dives if anyone still needs to finish them or wants to go again

[wintry delta]

EDD:
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption
thx i hate it

[tacit grail]

sounds fun

[pallid maple]

Session is named last weeks dives

[ebon anchor]

Stage 3 seems fine cos there's no uplink

But who am I to say I haven't played it, could be hell

[unkempt saffron]

Hopin for no dreads on stage 3 of dd, need to whip out my sticky for a ride

[vocal saddle]

this week is looking like a cakewalk

[wintry delta]

You could definitly just speedrun it with no issue

[ebon anchor]

How's the nitra situation

For edd

[fast sluice]

might have to mind nitra on EDD-1 but otherwise doesnt sound too bad

[uneven mountain]

Regular DD stage 3: refine liquid morkite + black box, mactera plague

[fast sluice]

this said last week's EDD-2 had a lot of details not immediately apparent that made it a complete nightmare

[quiet mortar]

Huh, same as last week again...

You sure you restarted for this weeks Dives?

[tacit grail]

huh

can you have the same mission on the same deep dive

because regular dd stage 2 is also refine

[ebon anchor]

Wut

[random rampart]

Deep dives are always seeded the same for everyone

[ebon anchor]

I mean ye you can edd and dd

Sometime have same mission

[random rampart]

It's the same seed for the entire week and every attempt

[tacit grail]

yea

[quiet mortar]

Yes, but not one stage after another. (So Stage 1 and 3 can, but not Stage 2 and 1 or 3)

[tacit grail]

ok so he has to be wrong then

[ebon anchor]

Maybe he didn't restart his game

[tacit grail]

yea

[uneven mountain]

Oh, I forgot I had to restart the whole thing. Sorry about that.

[thorn patio]

Oh god mactera plague

[wraith shard]

shield disruption in haz 5.5....

D:

[thorn patio]

Yeah thats rough

Good thing it's stage 3 so i can skiiiiiiiiip

[quiet mortar]

It's fine np lol

[ebon anchor]

Just try it since you made it all the way already

[wraith shard]

wym?

[thorn patio]

As in not bother

[jolly hazel]

don't understand why people don't do stage 3

you already invested 40+ minutes

you can probably get through a morkite mission lol

[vivid zinc]

because just skin

[jolly hazel]

and if you dont then its ok you got what u wanted

[broken shore]

DD 2nd Refine Liquid morkite + black box / swarmageddon + critical weakness

[wraith shard]

why do they do that? cause they don't need the matrix core?

[jolly hazel]

idk I think the game is fun and challenge is fun

so it baffles me why people shy away from challenge that will make them better

[unkempt saffron]

Most people just want the blank core and weapon core, after that the cosmetic core is somewhat negligible

[jolly hazel]

nah man

you need the drip

[unkempt saffron]

Most people dont really need the drip, and they dont find the increase in difficulty that much worth it for a cosmetic core, if the weapon core was only given after completing stage 3 id guarantee everyone would want to complete the entire edd

[vocal saddle]

me neither

[shell tapir]

I've never had people quit on stage 3 or anything

[buoyant wing]

generally I'll try for stage 3 but if I fail I'm not likely to try again

[shell tapir]

but I've had people say things implying stage 3 is "optional"

[unkempt saffron]

Its kinda rare to see such a player, but im not surprised they exist

[jolly hazel]

5.5 is barely a leap tbh

[ebon anchor]

It's nice of them to put the blank core first though

I remember when I was new I just kept doing EDD stage 1 and dying on stage 2 over and over

[unkempt saffron]

For such players it is

[ebon anchor]

Until I got comfortable doing Haz 5 then I went up to stage 2 so on

[jolly hazel]

I think they think its more of a leap than it is

no increase in enemy speed

which is the killer

[random willow]

4.5 to 5 is a wayyy bigger leap than 5 to 5.5 for sure

[unkempt saffron]

Im sure they couldnt be bothered that much, for the most part those first 2 cores are already satisfactory for them

[broken shore]

DD 3rd 7 aquarqs + 2 eggs / no mutators

[jolly hazel]

nice

[echo heath]

heads up EDD round 2 is very nice this week

[balmy axle]

stage 3 shield disruption

oh god what

thank god that's the cosmetic core tier

[balmy axle]

macteria plague is still less generous than rich atmos

seriously, last week was just cruel

near impossible stage 2 and stage 3 is just a friendly pat on the back and "gg"

like it already threw the hardest thing it could come up with at you and just gave up for the finale

[echo heath]

its lethal - doretta+eggs. and doretta runs over the swarm egg on first go. veeeery fun lol

[balmy axle]

i would've done stage 3 without getting downed if arbalest didn't snipe me 2 times

absolutely wild

and even this time it's just morkite and mules

probably easiest objective set?

[north urchin]

That was last's weeks one m8...

[mellow cove]

Pretty sure my doretta didn't pop the egg

[vocal saddle]

see you guys next week

[ebon anchor]

EDD stage 2 was actually kinda crazy cos of how many mactera spawns lul

walked into the room with at least 20 in the air

[jolly hazel]

thankfully it cuts down on regular enemies

cuz apparently mactera cost more for the ai director to spawn?

[ebon anchor]

yea there was very little regular enemies

[jolly hazel]

good day for weakpoint anti mactera subata

[placid shell]

26 macteras

I counted it

[ebon anchor]

shet

[burnt sandal]

more like it replaces them on top of being more costly

so you have more fliers, and overall less enemies because fliers are pricey

[heavy crest]

How high are the eggs?

[stuck moth]

This week's edd is way easier than last week's

[wintry delta]

i think all of are ground level basically

[heavy crest]

Gonna play driller then thanks!

[ebon anchor]

Our engineer hardcore carried our team I felt so bad

we all went down on stage 2 cos of trijaw spawns and he solo carried for a solid 2 mins against 4 player swarm size mactera swarm

before clearing them and reviving us

biggest rock and stone to him man

[jolly hazel]

simply do not get hit

thats the secret to carrying

[jolly hazel]

isnt that basically the same thing? I am just going off what others say

like when a grunt spawns a mactera would spawn instead and that costs more so less enemies spawn?

which is weird

because apparently the director can blow his load on two bulk detonators at the same time

and keep spawning enemies

or are larger enemies from different resource pools?

[lunar helm]

this week's EDD was very doable

[jolly hazel]

any bad cave gen?

[lunar helm]

I dont think so

everything seemed fine

The mactera plague mission is a bit hard cause of the modifier

[grim thorn]

Any reason to drink dark morkite for edd?

[atomic prawn]

only for stage 3

[jolly hazel]

because its beer and you are a dwarf

[old widget]

beer is beer

especially when other dwarves are buying

[glossy dock]

Beer > No Beer

[grim thorn]

Edd same as last week's, at least on playstation it is

[jolly hazel]

can't be

try updating/restarting?

[meager wyvern]

Restart

[grim thorn]

Regular deep dive was different, but edd was the same hell as last week

They've updated after restart

[heavy crest]

I agree on this

[meager wyvern]

what modifier

[burnt sandal]

Dunno, maybe it's about the modifier that's literally talked about in the quote

[meager wyvern]

I'll never again play with random 1st mission random scout had like 16 deaths and engi 8. Me driller 0 well cryo barely survived and the engi killed me his stupid gun when I was freezing the lflying shits in tunnel

[dense scroll]

Welp. Guess I aint doing EDD with bad connections. End of stage 1, lost connection. Kinda sadge

[viscid oak]

What’s the beer for 30% extra health? it’s gonna be handy for Deep dives this week …take the armour health option as well

[jolly hazel]

red rock blaster is +30% from red sugar

[jolly hazel]

host

resolves problem lol

[viscid oak]

oh must have read it wrong is there a health boosting beer?

[jolly hazel]

did he pgl you?

[jolly hazel]

no

[meager wyvern]

Breach cuttered me multiple time even though I thought it was obvious I needed to freeze those millions of macteras

[jolly hazel]

deep rock isn't sending their best...

[grim thorn]

So after I ran DD without restarting game, they hadn't updated yet I was able to earn overclocks. Then I restarted and was able to earn overclocks again :/

Sadly only received garbage overclocks though

[jolly hazel]

which ones

[smoky gull]

Hello, i'm a psn player. Need help with my 1st deep dive mission. Tried doing it alone but it's a bit too hard and no one will join my session lol

So if any of you is willing to help, i'd appreciate it

[analog brook]

it gets harder with more players, i honestly suggest just playing it til u can do it alone, it is way harder with teammates among lag, no bosco, having to share resupplies, and more and healthier enemies along with tougher dreadnoughts

[smoky gull]

Oh okay

Thanks for the info

I'll just wait for an easier mission then, cause this one with shield disruption feels unfair lol

[analog brook]

what class are u playing?

[smoky gull]

Engineer

[analog brook]

huh

engi is like one of teh better ones for this

what are u using?

[smoky gull]

Grenade launcher and the smg

[analog brook]

hm

[smoky gull]

I will switch to shotgun though

[analog brook]

try to play around ur turrets as much as possible

[smoky gull]

It feels more powerful

[mental scroll]

the shield disrupt stage is pretty short though

[analog brook]

i dunno,maybe its preference cuz i prefer smg, but i have a buddy who mains engi and he swears by the shotgun

ya its also the first stage so it is the easiest hazard level wise

[smoky gull]

Short? You mean the mission?

[mental scroll]

yeah you can zip through pretty fast in that one

oh you mean the normal dd sorry

[smoky gull]

I am getting the mission where i have to collect the blue crystals (forgot the name) and there's a constant wave of enemies, can bearly do anything, let alone all the crystals are high up

[glossy walrus]

just tell bosco to mine them

[mental scroll]

yeah PEs are a time race. have bosco mine them while you clear out the rabble

[analog brook]

ya bosco is by far the most powerful tool in ur arsenal

[glossy walrus]

he makes PEs so much lazier solo

[analog brook]

do not forget to abuse the shit out of him for anything thats even slightly annoying

[smoky gull]

Bosco can mine common rock?

[analog brook]

ye

[smoky gull]

Oh

[analog brook]

ping the glowing bits

[smoky gull]

Well

[glossy walrus]

he can mine eggs and aquarq if you ping the area outside

[analog brook]

he'll get the aquarq

[glossy walrus]

then will grab it and bring it to you

[meager wyvern]

Bosco is better than most players you meet if they are randoms

[smoky gull]

Wish i knew that before lol

I'm glad i joined this discord

[analog brook]

bosco is better than any player lmao

[smoky gull]

Thanks for all the help

Everyone

[analog brook]

gl

[smoky gull]

Thanks

[meager wyvern]

Bosco can't kite for you or can he?

[random rampart]

*kites*

[analog brook]

kite?

[random rampart]

flee enemies

[meager wyvern]

Like if some tough enemy is following you and he is about to get you and other player would get its attention and then it would leave you alone

[analog brook]

i mean

he has electrocuting rounds and i think that handles anything big

detonator? ping it and run away

[meager wyvern]

I feel like duo is the easiest combo for the easy route if your partner is good

[analog brook]

it'll be dead before u need to go back there

[analog brook]

i was thinking about trying duo

[meager wyvern]

Solo has its perks but I prefer duo

[analog brook]

well

not for the normal deep dive

im gonna do that solo

but imma 100% need an engi for the edd

[meager wyvern]

Also real player can warn you about threats which you might not have noticed

[analog brook]

thats true too

[meager wyvern]

Also you can't cordinate with bosco to check x place while you y place to get certain nitra which might be far apart

Trust me real person has its bonuses

and it is more fun to play and talk something

[crimson tinsel]

Got some use out of the EPC during Stage 2

[sacred flicker]

whats deep dive?

[random rampart]

a set of 3 preseeded missions, available for promoted dwarves

the missions update weekly, and give a reward per stage

them being a blank core, an overclock core, and a cosmetic core

the missions are the same everytime, and you can only get the rewards once a week

[wraith shard]

The catch being that your ammo and resources carry over for those three missions.

[jolly hazel]

which is a net bonus

balanced out by the fact secondary objectives in deep dives are actually normal mission primary objectives

and usually involve a swarm or mini swarm or a dreadnought

or u can get lucky with morkite

[unkempt saffron]

Edd was relatively easy being a gunner, i wish i could say the same for my rando driller and engi

[jolly hazel]

not this week though lol

[brave patio]

normal DD seems soloable as a driller this week

[velvet ginkgo]

Was last week's EDD unusually difficult?

I felt like it was a lot more difficult compared to the EDD 2 weeks ago.

[meager wyvern]

Aren't they always

Last weeks edd was my first clear happy happy

[jolly hazel]

lethal enemies and drilldozer can combine for unfortunate results, especially when the dozer knocks out an egg causing double swarm plus bulks in the spawn pool

rng can absolutely screw you with that combo

but no

it was not unusually difficult

I dont think Playstation has had a hard edd yet

[meager wyvern]

Aren't they same?

[jolly hazel]

or rather unreasonably hard one

yeah I meant in the time frame since it released on playstation

[meager wyvern]

Aah

[jolly hazel]

they haven't had the previous years of edds

pc has

[meager wyvern]

Waiting on haunted cave dread fight

[jolly hazel]

I think I've seen haunted cave like

once

if at all

[meager wyvern]

Next week it is then

👻

[hardy nacelle]

Whoops! All Point Extract!

that's basically what this week's dd is

[jolly hazel]

would be a speedrun dd if not for dumb refining

[hardy nacelle]

double PE, with a nice refining in the middle to break it up xp

[open ledge]

I could scroll up but I’m lazy

How is EDD?

[meager wyvern]

Ez this week

[open ledge]

Beautiful

Thanks

[plush plover]

the stage 2 of edd can be a bit rough

the mactera swarms are pretty annoying

[outer beacon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/938883000597381150/20220203163852_1.jpg?width=1202&height=676

[rustic comet]

@outer beacon what are the stages this week

[outer beacon]

Today's dive was a little rough, broke our first try streak. Last stage just screwed me hard with a spawn of swarmers.

[outer beacon]

Here they are. @rustic comet

[rustic comet]

Thanks

[outer beacon]

But yeah, second try went over a lot smoother, breach cutter made the mactera swarms laughable

[warped adder]

this week's EDD is just tedious

not really difficult

[winter jolt]

SD is bad but tbh that seems like the worst of it

plus it's haz3 so can't be like super bad

[vernal willow]

Really easy EDD this time, did it on first go, with randos, on my worse class >_>

[wraith shard]

What a relief
It's nice to know I have one of the hardest EDDs ever under my belt so little to nothing should pose a challenge now

[hoary cove]

i think theyr talking about the EDD stage 3

[winter jolt]

ooooh

yeah didn't see that

yeah jeeeesus

[hushed mulch]

Why is someone player level 10, gunner 1 star level 4 tryna do an edd with me LMAO

[tidal spruce]

hello and welcome to shield disruption on haz 5.5

and double dreads + exploder infestation beforehand

so you're going into it with no health already

[marble bobcat]

honestly, I felt this week being easier than last!

1st stage was fine.
2nd was mostly underground bunker setup.
3rd was fast with an escape tunnel. 200 morkite as a primary felt.. too easy I felt

we also somewhat had plenty of nitra by stage3

[inner rover]

wait deep dives are randomized ? we had on site refinery for final one

[gaunt valve]

They shouldn't be lol

[carmine badge]

they refreshed today, that was "last weeks"

[inner rover]

aah ok

this week was my 2nd deep dive and it felt way easier than last week

we kept running out of nitra last week

[gaunt valve]

I just ran through this week's dd, it's a really chill one

[inner rover]

i still havent done elite yet

[gaunt valve]

neither have I

[inner rover]

its just too insane

[gaunt valve]

It's looking reaaaallll spicy

[carmine badge]

no time like the present to try it out!

[gaunt valve]

haz 5.5 shield disruption

[crimson tinsel]

The last stage was pretty easy even with Shield. Rather short.

[carmine badge]

haven't run it yet, but this week does sound like another more relaxed EDD for sure

[gaunt valve]

at least it ain't escort

can't type today lol

It'd be hilarious if for the last week of this season they had an EDD with industrial sabotage for the last mission

horrible

but hilarious

[trim stream]

Is next week the last week of the season?

[gaunt valve]

no

The season will be around until aprilish I think

that's when season two is supposed to start

[trim stream]

Oh nice

[wraith shard]

Man DD mission 2 is so annoying
Not hard at all but god those little swarmers were irritating
Makes me wanna tear all their legs off

[random rampart]

Didn't you

[crimson tinsel]

As an AoE Gunner I looooove swarm. See a pack of those things and it becomes a chorus of splats.

[wraith shard]

I was using aoe gunner but it's still annoying to have to keep stopping what I'm doing to kill those little bastards
Wouldn't have been as bad were it any other mission type than morkite refinery
Hate that one

[restive trout]

Sooo... anyone else got a random OG Dread in stage 3 of the EDD?

[rustic comet]

...I hope not

[icy river]

@restive trout that's sound horrible shield distrupion og dread

[restive trout]

Well we decided to ignore it. Scout and Gunner kept it busy in the big hall while Driller and I (engi) went further down to get the last morkite and Mule.

Worked out quite nicely.

Since we didnt got bothered with random swarms anymore.

So kinda a blessing tbh.

[icy river]

Thats cool

Previous edd was rough due to lethal enemies drilldozer

[floral meteor]

Yeah me and a friend tried it and stopped after the second try. The dozer hitting the egg ruined it for us

Plus the lethal enemies were oneshotting

[icy river]

Yep i got three bulks

[restive trout]

Its simple. Dont get hit.

Well. In the end we managed to do the EDD. Despite the Scout insisting to mine every gold vein there is.

Much to my annyoance.

He got downed a total of 27 times.

But... in the end. We won.

[rustic comet]

Gg’s, just finished mine... luckily no random dreadnought

[restive trout]

That Dready really lived up the party I tell you that.

[violet warren]

I don't usually bunker, but I feel like we had to bunker in phase 2 or get ripped apart by mactera

The gunner disagreed though, and he somehow managed to survive outside of the bunkers for the entire uplink, refueling, and wait for pod to spin up phases

[hardy nacelle]

real chads fight outside the bunkies

bunkers are for nerds, simply play better

[violet warren]

The best way to kill mactera as driller is to get them to all have to run through a narrow tunnel

[random willow]

better positioning is playing better

[dense scroll]

We did last week. The incline on the EDD with the dozer was painful

[tired needle]

how is the elite deep dive this week

[dense scroll]

Honestly, been failing with randoms on PS.

on stage 1

[tired needle]

stage 1 looks like the hardest

tbh

[cerulean wadi]

A buddy and I managed stage 1, then promptly got our asses kicked by mactera on stage 2

[dense scroll]

I'd assume with mactera, bunker may be best

[tired needle]

i think someone in here said theres 26 mactera in stage 2 as soon as you get out

[cerulean wadi]

Yeah it's nuts

[tired needle]

oh boy

[cerulean wadi]

For stage 1 I ran cryo driller and he had gunner so we just zipline cheesed once we had the pipes set up

[dense scroll]

You know what usually messes my randos up in stage 1?

Cave Leeches.

[cerulean wadi]

Yep, I'd imagine so

As long as they ping it's not the end of the world

[dense scroll]

Oh no, it's usually me being eaten by the leeches by trying to find them and then getting on mic to let them know, but they either don't speak english or just don't listen

[cerulean wadi]

oh rip, that sucks

[dense scroll]

Yeah :(

[pallid copper]

I beat stage 2

Died at stage 3 cause I ran out of ammo I used bullet hell on gunner helps kill mactera

[restive trout]

Did the EDD with a friend. First the scout left. And then the gunner left. Both on stage 2. No reason given. Just left.

We pulled it through. Without them.

Driller. Engi. You dont need more. Its all it takes.

[jolly hazel]

well it also scales to 2 players

:^)

but congrats I had the exact same thing happen but it was scout engie lol

[jolly hazel]

how so? are you building for stun?

[hardy nacelle]

bullet hell is fun, but god if it isn't optimized very well

that reduced damage fuckin' bites

[jolly hazel]

it make kiting so much easier with stun mods

damage is ok with blowthru

[violet warren]

Pro tip: if someone goes down in an uncleared area, ceiling check in case they were killed by a leech

I think that saved me from going down in one of the recent missions

[wraith shard]

Wow
People weren't lying
This edd is a cakewalk so far

[jolly hazel]

also have subtitles on

[trim creek]

Wait, compared to last week’s EDD, how difficult is this one

Usually EDD’s are a challenge at most for me but I got absolutely clapped last week

[wraith shard]

It feels night and day to me

Last week's was so awful that if you got it done, this week's will be nothing for you

[hardy nacelle]

last week's was the toughest in a while

[wraith shard]

Again though, stage 2 seems to be the hill

[balmy axle]

"peeled sleep" is a horrifying phrase honestly

[wraith shard]

Sounds kinda gross lol

[hoary cove]

thats usually the case

[unkempt saffron]

The mactera plague is manageable as long as you avoid an incoming squadron of them and hide under a makeshift roof or tunnel

[fickle yarrow]

How was the elite this week?

[hoary cove]

mactera plague is always a snowball moment

[fickle yarrow]

I’m reading it’s easy

Wish me luck bois

[wraith shard]

It's definitely easy compared to last week imo

[fickle yarrow]

That’s all good I’m going in solo😎

[wraith shard]

You should be set then
There's a huge abundance of nitra so go crazy

[pallid copper]

Blowthrough sucks with bullet hell when ur bullet bounce they aren’t able to pass through bugs

[unkempt saffron]

What? It works fine with bullet hell

[pallid copper]

It does not

[hoary cove]

not as well as stun and armor break tho

[unkempt saffron]

Blowthrough + ricochet adds more projectiles, whats not to love

[hoary cove]

it’s hitscan

it keeps the trajectory after the bounce meaning most the time it won’t hit 3 targets

[pallid copper]

Take armor break

[unkempt saffron]

I sorta find that hard to believe when most builds include that t3 blowthrough mod

And of course the ricochet blowthrough interaction

[pallid copper]

Go look it up it doesn’t work

[fickle yarrow]

Finished stage 1 with over 300 you really weren’t kidding

[wraith shard]

lol yup
It really lets you go wild
I was spamming BC as engi

[main anvil]

Whats the dd today? Helping some lower levels and just wanna make sure what im doin’

[unkempt saffron]

You wanna help me out with that, because i have looked it up and i cant find much info regarding the matter

[jolly hazel]

pinned messages

[main anvil]

Ah k ty

[hardy nacelle]

magic bullets and bullet hell bounce once after blowthru, and then the bullet is counted as "normal" i.e. no more bouncing

bullet hell sucks though because it's so inaccurate it's mostly going to be bullets that have already bounced hitting the targets, so it's just a regular bullet with the mods you have + the insane damage reduction

[jolly hazel]

but do the bounced rounds blowthru

[pallid copper]

They don’t sadly

[hardy nacelle]

they do not

bullet hell is just kinda bad, unfortunately

[jolly hazel]

hmm I guess stun is the only good build then

[unkempt saffron]

But if thats the case why is bt still the goto for most builds online for BH?

[pallid copper]

I went armor break cause the bounces work with it

[opal minnow]

How’s nitra on the EDD this week?

aka LOK-1 or warthog

[pallid copper]

There misinformed

[vernal willow]

Good

[unkempt saffron]

Aplenty

[unkempt saffron]

Misinform that many people? That takes a lot of effort

[opal minnow]

thank

[vernal willow]

Even the wiki makes it seem like bt is good W/ bullet hell

[hardy nacelle]

probably because you can get 1 more kill with blowthrough than armor break, I dunno

bullet hell fun, but stinky

[unkempt saffron]

I might have to give it a haz5 test but its odd if bt isnt as good as it seems its still the most popular option

[meager wyvern]

Is that tunnel making good strat never though about that

[unkempt saffron]

get driller
drill tunnel in wall
blow massive hole in tunnel with c4
"congrats, youre a homeowner"
It works well to funnel enemies and create a killing corridor or when youre in a pinch and need to gtfo asap

Though the main issue is of course the dreaded bulk

[jolly hazel]

works very well with goo gun or sticky flames

if you die in there prepare to get shit for it though

[unkempt saffron]

Anything with aoe will suffice, its a narrow passage after all

[jolly hazel]

yeah but slow+persistence good

[hardy nacelle]

remember, the only difference between a bunker, and a tomb, is that one has a way out

[unkempt saffron]

And the other has a bulk blocking your way out

[jolly hazel]

I am not vehemently opposed to bunkers but

[hardy nacelle]

predrilling part of an escape tunnel isn't a bad idea

[jolly hazel]

ask before you dig the uplink

ya whenever we do a bunker I always tell them pre drill way out

[ebon anchor]

Bunker is fine this edd stage 2 cos of all the mactera spawns, we had no pratorians and oppressors

[unkempt saffron]

Uplink just dont work with bunkers anymore for me, the game knows to drop some shit at that time

[jolly hazel]

bulks do not seem to be in the spawn pool

nobody has said anything about them

[ebon anchor]

Ye either you ceiling the uplink or you dig somewhere I dunno

[unkempt saffron]

I guess not, but its more of a general thing

[ebon anchor]

Unless your team built for anti mactera

[jolly hazel]

yeah funny double opressor or something

[ebon anchor]

Gonna be fun dealing with 25+ spawning every wave

While defending an uplink

[jolly hazel]

shoot the big glowing weakspot

[unkempt saffron]

Just drop a shield

[jolly hazel]

thats a situation where I'd gunner shield though

ya

[unkempt saffron]

Or build a plat roof

[hardy nacelle]

just walk left or right

they don't have very good tracking

[jolly hazel]

laggy trijaw says die

*120 ms trijaw

[unkempt saffron]

Or ask your driller to be useful

[hardy nacelle]

you walk towards a trijaw to ignore it

because they shoot in arcs

[jolly hazel]

yeah but what about the trijaw 90 degrees from that one...

[hardy nacelle]

trijaws have the biggest weakpoint out of all the mactera

simply play better

[jolly hazel]

ya I generally don't have a problem with them unless I'm doing something else

[shell zephyr]

ROCK AND STONE

[jolly hazel]

priority shifts to them and stun brt cancels the firing animation

[unkempt saffron]

I find myself being at the end of an aimbot trijaw far too often than id like

[jolly hazel]

3 mactera in the same axis, 2 trijaws at each 90 degree plus goo bomber goo and your dash cooldown is down

at least they take 5 decades to shoot usually

[meager wyvern]

Does making tunnels for defense work well in normal swarms with let's say haz5? I have never tried it

[fickle yarrow]

Got it done in juts over an hour

Only real trouble spot was the end of stage 2 with mactera plague and bull showing up at the end

[unkempt saffron]

So there are bulks, fascinating

[tacit marsh]

How’s the EDD this week?

[unkempt saffron]

They could work, but its all up to your team

[unkempt saffron]

Fairly straightforward

[fickle yarrow]

Pretty easy but stage 2 might mess you up

[tranquil apex]

whos got some tips for this weeks EDD? barely made it outta stage 1 and we wiped stage 2

seems a bit of a rough one

playing with random pubs keep in mind

[open ledge]

Play with good team

You’ll win

[hoary cove]

cryo grenades on scout, snowball on driller, and pgl help with mactera plague

[open ledge]

That’s for edd in general

[tranquil apex]

that's not a viable suggestion but thanks

[open ledge]

Wdym?

Like in a vc i mean

[hoary cove]

autocannon with fear is also ok for big clumps of mactera

[open ledge]

They don’t have to be good, just the communication will help everyone

Sorry for not specifying

[tranquil apex]

my mic stopped working for this game so I can't even use VC anymore

[tranquil apex]

is fear an oc I assume?

or is that like a build for it

[hoary cove]

nope it’s a tier 5 upgrade

[tranquil apex]

ok I see it, it's the second one. My current build I was using was 32311 with big bertha. my other 2 OC's are combat mobility & composite drums bc I'm assuming I should drop bertha ?

[hoary cove]

hurricane with stun mod and aoe is also very good

[hoary cove]

big bertha works very well with fear actually

[tranquil apex]

ah okay, so Ill just go 32312 then

[main anvil]

Honestly bb is great with 33111

Tons of ammo

And good rof

What I use personally for fooling around in haz 4

[balmy axle]

egg fell through the map on stage 3

10/10

[meager wyvern]

Last weeks edd made me so much better player. Good at dodging and not running out of ammo

well it was my first edd but still learning as much as I can for new starts

to be used in future

[open ledge]

Yeah

It’s funny how you can fail the EDD several time in a row and still learn something every time

[violet warren]

Our team nearly failed phase 2 because of 3 spitballers in a neat line

I only saw one, went in to cryo it, then got deleted by one of the other two, then someone who went in to res me died to the third

Luckily I think the gunner carried

[ripe shard]

LF 1 player for EDD! We need a gunner or engineer! We’re on PlayStation ⛏ PM me

[old widget]

Welcome miner. Please use the #lfg-playstation channel to arrange games, as this is a discussion channel. R&S

[tranquil apex]

the third lvls a snooze even with shield disruption compared to the second 😭

[steep vault]

Are these things even possible solo? Pretty new to them, had sheild disruption, a dreadnqught half way through, a mini swqrm every 30 seconds, and when i finally went to do the black he black box thing several detonators and predatorians came along with many many grunts, usedball my revives and eventually lost, all the while mission contral bitching at me to get back in there whole im dying every five second having to dtay in this small area with detonators

[deep flicker]

AOE gunner with auto cannon + revolver with damage mods treats me well

[deep flicker]

You may be able to speed run the EDD with scout based on how my scout play went in a team of 4, just hit everything and get blow through rounds on either weapon, and on the other one use hollow point for dreads

[steep vault]

This wasn't an elite one, it was a regular deep dive, embarrassingly enough, and my omly premoted dwarf atm is engi

I wasntbhaving too mnay problems killing things, it's just by the time i saw the detonators they were in the circle of the black box objective, plus predatorian gas didnt help

[open ledge]

Edd was fun

Had some great guys with me too

[cursive lodge]

Holy Mactera!

[open ledge]

The “oh shit” cryo nade and gunner shield come in clutch

[warped adder]

Snowball might actually be useful for once

[ebon anchor]

I think breach cutter might be better than pgl for mactera cos breach cutter just slices through all their bulbous fat bodies

[mellow cove]

I may have made a mistake of entering stage 3 with SBB

[hoary cove]

i made a severe and continuos lapse in my judgement

[mellow cove]

Aaaand it's done

Cryo nades carried

[sweet canopy]

Quick question about Dives. when do they reset?

[mellow cove]

Yesterday

[sweet canopy]

Oh so the current one is NEW

[balmy axle]

you need to embrace the fact that you can have all 4 pips to yourself

the smart rifle usually is insane but has awful ammo capacity for most applications

but when you can get 400 bullets back with each resup it's less of a problem

same with spamming your secondary weapon

for last week's EDD during the heartstone finale i basically only fired the breach cutter

[unkempt saffron]

Yes they reset about every wednesday/thursday each week, at the same time worldwide

[true lotus]

Is it normal that a dreadnought spawns in the first normal DRG

Mission

[cursive lodge]

Just failed edd for the third time. Lost at fueling the drop pod all three times stage 2 :(

[meager wyvern]

Did not have

[true lotus]

So I was just extremely unlucky

Nice

[burnt sandal]

just RNG

[wispy monolith]

Hi, I just promoted my first character and did my first successful Deep Dive. I have some questions about that:

-I understood that I can only get rewards from the deep dive once a week. And I saw that I can get a weekly core hunt, so I assume I can farm 2 weapon overclocks a week (deep dive + core hunt)? Or is Elite Deep Dive giving separate rewards, so 3 all in all?

-I also assume I can't get the same overclock twice?

-Is it random for which class I get weapon overclocks?

Thanks!

[burnt sandal]

• EDD give separate reward, so you can up to 6-7 weapon overclocks by week (3 from doing all weeklies, 3 for the blank used in machin event, eventually and 1 possible from the forge if you forged everything).

• That's right, you can't have the same OC twice.

• It is entirely RNG. At best, the machine event gives you a choice between 3 classes but that's it.

[wispy monolith]

I see, thanks for the help!

[balmy axle]

stage 1 always gives the blank and stage 2 always gives the weapon OC so you don't necessarily have to fully clear deep dives

[jolly hazel]

don't leave people hanging though

driller leaving unannounced when stage 3 is refinery would be fucking annoying

[balmy axle]

the virgin EDD team vs the chad driller TPKing his own team because he's bored

(please do not do this)

[nocturne mica]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-dwarf-gaming-scrip-gif-23748114

[restive trout]

What happens if you leave a dwarf behind during a EDD stage? Do they get a punishment? Does the dwarf left behind lose half of their ammo or something?

[hardy nacelle]

don't think so, you still progress like normal

[restive trout]

So no use in doing anything like heroic last moment clutch saves in the middle of the EDDs.

[old widget]

Dwarven teleportation to the next stage

I mean, you start the next stage with a tiny sliver of health, which isn’t /nothing/, but it’s hardly a punishment

[hardy nacelle]

if you're a coward, sure

[restive trout]

During Stage 3 there is barely a difference between full health and a tiny sliver anyway.

[hardy nacelle]

[restive trout]

It was the scouts goddamn descision to insist to mine every goldvein. And if he is downed high above the ceiling I wont spend 10 plattforms on getting his ass down again.

[pastel wasp]

no dwarf left behind is basically a law

not worth losing for tho

[little timber]

Is this weeks normal deep dive good for farming since it has 2 hullis and can be done in 30 minutes?

[hardy nacelle]

I've started the habit of actually never leaving any dwarves behind, it's really fun

[hardy nacelle]

I guess?

[restive trout]

If I managed to get through stage 1 and 2 in a EDD I am NOT risking the past 40 minutes just because of a "law". Its more of a guideline anyway.

[pastel wasp]

DD's are bad to farm generally, there's no special events

no crates/backpacks/etc

[little timber]

Yea but there is 100+ resources sitting there

[pastel wasp]

i mean, you do you, but i wouldnt

[little timber]

And this is probably the shortest deep dive I’ve ever seen

[pastel wasp]

isnt the money/exp vs time not worth it

[little timber]

2 quarks is a joke

[hoary cove]

are there hoarders every lvl or something

[little timber]

There is one in mission 1 and 3

[hoary cove]

still meh

i’d rather just do regular haz 5 missions

[pastel wasp]

i imagine learning exactly where everything was would bring the time down to something stupid like 20 minutes

still wouldnt be worth the effort for me

[jolly hazel]

hullis are rng

[pastel wasp]

not in DDs

[little timber]

Yea I’m pretty sure they are scripted

[pastel wasp]

they might vary with player count

[little timber]

They were in previous deep dives I did

[pastel wasp]

but DD/EDD huulis are scripted

[jolly hazel]

previous deep dives as in previous runs of this week

?

or previous weeks

[little timber]

No previous weeks

[jolly hazel]

ok thats completely different lol

[little timber]

I’m wondering if it’s worth doing this weeks more than once rn

[little timber]

No it’s not they didn’t change how deep dives work since last week

[jolly hazel]

no

[little timber]

Lol

[pastel wasp]

DD/EDD use seeding, the pre-generated enemies might vary with player count, but if a huuli spawns once it'll always happen with that many people

if its the same dive

[little timber]

Ah that’s my problem then since I did it with 2 people

[pastel wasp]

spitters/leechers and other pre-placed things will be the same too

[little timber]

I’d have to find someone

[jolly hazel]

you phrased it as there was a hoarder in the previous week and that meant there would be one this week

[pastel wasp]

there was at least one doing it 4p this week

[little timber]

One wouldn’t be worth it

[jolly hazel]

two or three would not be worth it

because you just run mineral mania

[pastel wasp]

two in three missions sounds even worse than one

one in one mission*

[little timber]

A normal mineral mania mission would take about as long as this deep dive

[jolly hazel]

and you get chance at machine events

[little timber]

And give less resources

[pastel wasp]

cargo crates, backpacks

[jolly hazel]

it has refining

[pastel wasp]

more exp, more money, chance for higher haz multipliers

[little timber]

That’s great for those things, but I don’t care about farming them I’m specifically talking about farming minerals

[jolly hazel]

why lmao

[pastel wasp]

are you joking? cargo crates and backpacks come with minerals

[little timber]

Yea but hardly enough to be worth farming with how rare they are

[pastel wasp]

1/6 chance each

[little timber]

They show up 1 in every like 10 missions

[burnt sandal]

if one normal mission take you as long as a DD, there's a problem

[little timber]

That’s hardly going to move the needle

[little timber]

This DD can easily be done in 20 minutes

[pastel wasp]

man if you want to farm it you do you

but its bad

[little timber]

A normal deep dive is ofc longer but this one is aquarks eggs and boxes it’s fast as fuck

[jolly hazel]

it is also refining

[little timber]

Yea but it’s not a hard refining

That’s like 10 minutes max

[jolly hazel]

there's at least 5 minutes of artificial time gating from the refining process

plus appeal of drg is the procedural cave gen

[little timber]

And 5 minutes to set up pipes

Seems about right

[little timber]

Good for it, I’m not asking about vague concepts like “the appeal”

[jolly hazel]

I have no idea why you'd want to farm the same boring mission set over and over for something you can get at an arguably faster rate with normal missions

[pastel wasp]

not even arguable tbh

[little timber]

I’m asking about one thing, would the minerals per mission be high farming this DD

[pastel wasp]

literal fact, no

[jolly hazel]

why are you trying to minmax resource farming in drg lol

ok then no

[burnt sandal]

no

any missions, even without mineral mania, would likely yield you more minerals

for less time taken

[little timber]

Normal missions do not average 200+ minerals

[pastel wasp]

the DD is three normal missions in a row

[burnt sandal]

neither to DD

[little timber]

This one literally does

It has 2 hullis

That’s about 80 of each

With the bonus that’s easily 100 of each

If not more

200 is conservative

[pastel wasp]

plus you only get those two types

its not even a mix of all resources

[little timber]

True but what if I only want those two types

[pastel wasp]

still bad

[burnt sandal]

that's the case for any missions tho

[jolly hazel]

I think he means

you can switch biome with normal missions

[dire pulsar]

hey can i have any tips for edds? i havent done one yet but ive done regular dds and some haz5 missions

[jolly hazel]

how well do u do in the haz 5 missions

this week edd is quite easy

[dire pulsar]

i only get down like 3 times max if my teams good and we have good pace

[jolly hazel]

its just haz 4.5/5/5.5 back to back

ok let's say you are the only one with a braincell

how do you do

[little timber]

1. build for this specific EDD, always check it in advance
2. Play whatever class your best at
3. buy the daily beer (presuming its not back breaker)

[dire pulsar]

i do ok like i can get clutch revives and good pics on big things and take care of objectives

[jolly hazel]

thats better than most

[little timber]

4. be smart with your Nitra, your going to have more than enough by the last EDD if you dont spam resupplies, but the last EDD is also the hardest so you need them the most htere usually

5. if your new run iron will, it will save your runs

[dire pulsar]

i play scout with m1000 supercooling sniper build

[jolly hazel]

eh

u do u

but yeah

[little timber]

is that the unstable?

[dire pulsar]

yeah

[little timber]

that is probably the worst OC in teh game

[jolly hazel]

nitra carries over between missions so you will have more ammo than usual

[little timber]

you are better running a sniper build with no OC

[earnest crag]

oh man i've attempted this week's edd 3 times and failed each time at stage 2. really discouraging. any tips?

[little timber]

it cuts your ammo by a third and massively increases focus shot time

[jolly hazel]

kill better

[hardy nacelle]

stage 2 is the hardest for this week's

[little timber]

for a trade off of 25% damage

your way better going ASS

[dire pulsar]

really? i feel like i do well on ammo and the stationary penalty is not so bad

[earnest crag]

im consistently topping the team in kills

[dire pulsar]

i dont have any other ocs on m1k tho

[timber rune]

What does ASS mean?

[jolly hazel]

kill better

[little timber]

active stability system

[pastel wasp]

solo?

[little timber]

you would 100% be better off without one at all

[dire pulsar]

what does that one do?

is that the recoil one

[pastel wasp]

bunker during the defences would prob be very strong

[little timber]

increase focus shot speed, and no movement penalty during

[dire pulsar]

ah

[little timber]

not more ammo I was looking at hipster for a second

it does those things tho

[dire pulsar]

ok i'll keep that in mind then

[little timber]

longer reload time but thats nothing

with born ready and animation cancelling

[dire pulsar]

what would u suggest for this weeks edd

[pastel wasp]

on level 2, take your time entering the second cave, and consider bunkering if you need to

other than that, it's free

[jolly hazel]

take splash+bouncy drak

[little timber]

scout is always good, especially with blowthrough

[hardy nacelle]

how the hell is ASS an balanced, that's basically a clean overclock if you have BR or know anims canceling

[dire pulsar]

what scout/driller builds bc those are my 2 best classes

[little timber]

your going to need to be killing that dread

so if you have embedded dets bring em

[pastel wasp]

blowthrough aint good on macteras

[little timber]

otherwise bring up a suped up shotty

[pastel wasp]

counter them

[little timber]

yea but you can counter them by just bringing a cryo grenade

[jolly hazel]

either tuned cooler cryo meta or my favorite the range oc sticky flames crispr

[pastel wasp]

ice storm is amazing too

[little timber]

or any TCF build

[dire pulsar]

does anyone have boomstick builds bc i usually use nuk17s

[little timber]

will 1 shot mactera swarms

[jolly hazel]

IMO mag size oc zhukovs are better than embedded detonators

[little timber]

wild take

[jolly hazel]

nuk 17 is based as fuck dont feel u have to use shotgun

if so use special powder

[dire pulsar]

don't got ocs

could you spot me a nuk17 build then?

[little timber]

without OCs the boomstick and zhuk are about even so you can use either

[jolly hazel]

all u need is blowthrough and them on flat ground and the swarm is gone

[little timber]

both can be fine for killing dreads

[jolly hazel]

embedded detonators u are wasting ammo with blowthrough on flat ground

[little timber]

no they are not what?

how is embedded dets wasting ammo with blowthrough

both bugs get detted

[jolly hazel]

you are putting enough detonators into the first grunts you are shooting

[little timber]

yea

and the second

[jolly hazel]

that its overkill

[little timber]

it does both

but you also dont use embedded dets for wave clear

[jolly hazel]

yeah and u end up shooting enough that you are overkilling

[little timber]

because you have bouncy drak

and m1k

[jolly hazel]

yeah but u can do both

[dire pulsar]

i use nuks bc i always run m1k and i need a weapon for mobbing instead of overkill

[little timber]

you use it to do the most DPS in the game

to dreads

and prets

[jolly hazel]

if u take mag size

I think sludge blast has it beat

[little timber]

mag size will do a quarter of the DPS embedded dets does

[jolly hazel]

ehh

[little timber]

im not joking

it will literally be a quarter

[jolly hazel]

I was getting similar numbers on opressors

as in ttk

[little timber]

then your using mebedded dets wrong

it has the highest DPS in the game

its not an argument its a fact

[dire pulsar]

wait so like what build is best for me using m1k and nuk17s?

i also use cryos

[jolly hazel]

if u like m1k use m1k

personally I prefer drak

[little timber]

1,2,3,1,1 for the zhuks without OCs id say

13x11 for the m1k

[dire pulsar]

i honestly don't like the drak or the gk nearly as much as the marksman rifle

[little timber]

if your not playing solo and none of your team have elctricity take get in get out on the zhuks

[hardy nacelle]

is 13211 a good ASS build

[little timber]

over electricity damage

[little timber]

yea, on ass I would be tempted to take 13221 but blowthrough is bonkers

[hardy nacelle]

gotcha

[little timber]

depends on if you need the aoe or not

if your using like a stuffed shells blowthrough boomstick build take weak point damage

[jolly hazel]

22132?

[little timber]

for embedded dets?

god no why the hell would you ever take damage in tier 1

[jolly hazel]

to get whatever bullshit ttk you are talking about lol

[hardy nacelle]

+100 ammo is insane on a high rof gun like the nuks

[little timber]

I mean that is the highest DPS in the game build

but it achieves a higher DPS then every gun in the game without that

13232 will out DPS everything except extreme circumstances like critical weakness

[jolly hazel]

why would you take

reloas

reload speed

over mag size or rof

[little timber]

to pop the dets faster

one mag and an IFG is enough to kill everything in the game

short a dreadnaught

[jolly hazel]

[little timber]

you dont need mag size

[jolly hazel]

they detonate as soon as the reload starts

why would reloading faster pop the detonstors faster

[little timber]

oh I thought the no round of ammo had to be loaded in first

neither of the other two do very much anyways since fire rate on the zhuks is shadow halved

and mag size as mentioned is not needed for any breakpoints