deep-dive-discussion

[waxen terrace]

2nd round friendly fire fatboys

3rd round everyone ignored doretta

[lunar helm]

stage 2 seems difficult

lethal enemies drilldozer

[waxen terrace]

i feel its doable if there is more aoe

things were going pretty fine until our NTP gunner ran off to shoot bulks

when the scout and engi are already dealing with it

[gaunt valve]

I do not think solo scout EDD is gonna happen for me this week

[loud nexus]

Did devs edit EDD?

2nd stage feels different

[burnt sandal]

no

[loud nexus]

Just trying to go through it with my friend

[loud nexus]

How are you so sure? Egg was located differently and there was more nitra

[burnt sandal]

one question : did you play it before the update ? 😄

[loud nexus]

What update? 🙂 Tried EDD first today about 6-7 hours ago

[burnt sandal]

wasn't there an update for the lunar event afterward ?

[loud nexus]

I dont know

[jolly hazel]

I await an edd starting with 10 aquarq PE minehead breaking classic/hiveguard dread egg on drop in like previous dd plus haunted cave/shield disrupt/lethal enemies

oh also magma core because die

oh and there's enough nitra for 3 resups max

all in the cieling

also

is everyone getting dual bulks on stage 3?

[sly raven]

magma core is such an unpleasant zone. The room where I fought dread hive was just a molten hell at the end

[dusty meadow]

Finished edd this morning. It's doable. Really need situational awareness.

[waxen terrace]

i think its doable

but a single bad decision on crucial moments can ruin the entire run

[shut ledge]

nitra is kinda scarce on the edd, we forgot one spot and there wasnt enough nitra for the dozer in the end, other than that, its ez

[loud nexus]

Made good progress, still fucked up on 3rd stage 🙂

[north urchin]

Haven't done this week edd yet but it looks weird... Stage 1 and 3 are dreads, stage 2 is escort with eggs.

[violet warren]

EDD escorts are the one time predrilling is advisable due to the stakes, right?

[jolly hazel]

yeah its there

this may be a splintering shells kinda edd

discord is screwy recently

[shut ledge]

yes, this time you need all nitra you can get, also ignore gold, otherwise there will be more waves as you spend more time mining

[shut ledge]

its easier than last week imho

[north urchin]

Did you do it solo?

[shut ledge]

no, always with a team

last week 3rd stage was nutz, tried it 3 times, failed every time

[ashen veldt]

Are the new DDs up today or, or was it tomorrow morning?

[burnt sandal]

they are up

[ashen veldt]

Aww i didn't get to do last week's EDD then

How's this week? Hard? Anything interesting?

[burnt sandal]

no idea

stage 2 looks like it can be a killer

[shut ledge]

easier than last weeks, need to be cautious with nitra, you will need every drop of it

[ashen veldt]

hm, neat

[north urchin]

I just tried solo scout got owned on stage 2.. Can't find a team because my region is all a sleep now 😛

[shut ledge]

yeah stage 2 is rough solo

[north urchin]

rough on any class?

[shut ledge]

i would say, best bet is scout, high mobility is key to survival, might try gunner aswell, for those dreads

[north urchin]

Currently ina team now hope t goes well

[median haven]

Have the deep dives already reset or is that happening tonight 🤔

[burnt sandal]

they did already

[median haven]

Aw snap ty

[stone bough]

anyone doing the dives?

[old widget]

Generally lots of folks running them in the #lfg channels. Check the one for your platform

[north urchin]

Stage 2 is a nightmare... the gunner we had kept double dipping ammo, in another team now..

[plush plover]

this edd felt a bit harder

the nitra limitation really made it hard

[fast crystal]

just completed my first deep dive, died to fall damage more than I would like to admit

[green parrot]

lol

[astral temple]

bulk on phase 4 of dozer ouff..

[hollow frost]

@stone bough we need an engi

Oops NVM.

[burnt sandal]

a bit late
#deep-dive-discussion message

thanks regardless

not sure why you literally link what I linked you but alright

okay ?

[high flume]

EZ EDD... At least it appear more an "ELITE" stage.

[ashen veldt]

That second EDD stage is looking pretty deadly

Lethal, one might say

[north urchin]

I don't know what my teams are doing... we really seem to screw up on stage 2...

[sly raven]

This sounds like a great DD to get a friend who just promoted to run it with me

[shut ledge]

yeah stage 2 is the hardest

[north urchin]

Yeah its really painful, good thing my reward is just a blank core, but you know 🙂 got to get em all

[shut ledge]

i usually try like 3-4 times, then give up, too much time

this one i got in my 2nd try, first try 2nd stage killed us

[north urchin]

Bout the same here I guess, I also usually come back to it and complete it,

This was like my 4th to 5th try? idk not counting... Imma take a break for a bit then come back again to it

[shut ledge]

yeah, also got to have luck with good team

some dives its like a clockwork, don't have to ping anything, scout flies away as soon as you platform up

some dives are rough, where there is little teamplay, those go bad usually

[north urchin]

Most teams I meet are usually very good, every now and then though...

[shut ledge]

i would say 8/10 are ok/good, 1/10 is fantastic and 1/10 is bad for me

[north urchin]

Seems fair, I'll got with 9/10 are good enough, 7/10 are awesome to play with, and 2/10 are just bad.....

based on the teams I've met

[stuck swan]

Does anybody know any good scout builds that can handle dreads but can still work against hordes?

I need one for this weeks EDD

I always have trouble choosing a build when there are dreads because I usually go full damage for those missions

[unkempt saffron]

For stage 2 if your team cant predrill beyond the halfway point (assuming if you did it because if you didnt thats insane) then dont worry too much, by then at the very least your team should have enough nitra for about 2-3 sups, use them fully as not only will the swarms be challenging, but the bulks will spawn in too, one at the halfway point, and most likely several more once you reach the hearthstone

Also, and most importantly, refuel dotty asap, the less time you spend refueling, the faster you can get things over with until she reaches the hearthstone

And if youre worried you might not have enough spare nitra for stage 3 then fret not, youll probably have some leftovers enough for a resup from stage 2, and stage 3 has enough nitra for at least 2 resups for each dread and more

[jolly hazel]

edd this week is fun

we didn't get any bulks though

[jolly hazel]

bouncy ball plasma splash drak

use secondaries for dread imo

[north urchin]

I didn't get any bulks for stage 2, that previous team was being an idiot they started the dozer right away... the next team I went to actually did quite well but we all died at heartstone final stage, no Nitra though they used 3 at the first stage...

[jolly hazel]

we called uh

2 at first and then 3 in second

that left us with no resup

3rd stage has at least 3 or 4

at least 4

[unkempt saffron]

You should have plenty of nitra to use during the first stage and extra to carry you early on in stage 2

[north urchin]

Told ya that team wasn't thinking...

[unkempt saffron]

And when i mean plenty i really mean theres enough for 2 sups per dread and maybe an additional 2 sups for stage 2

Or maybe 1 sup for stage 2, either way it should be enough nitra for a carryover

[north urchin]

My team used 3 on the first stage, left us with no spare nitra for stage 2, we quickly got enough to order 2 more, but somehow got overwhelmed and died 😛
NEVER made it to stage 3..

Also the dozer will go over one of the eggs triggering it which can spawn a swarm.

[unkempt saffron]

The first stage should have enough nitra for about 4 to 5 resups

[unkempt saffron]

That you can avoid with predrilling

[north urchin]

Hm.. possible we missed a few spots,

[unkempt saffron]

Grab those eggs asap on stage 1 and scour the caves for nitra quickly

[north urchin]

Yeah the team didn't bother one of the teams I was in just started instantly the other one I was RU one predrilled to the first egg only

[north urchin]

Oh why? any difference?

[topaz acorn]

Any suggestions for a just prestiged engineer trying to solo the regular DD? I see it's a mactera plague at the end again this week. They absolutely destroyed me last week

[soft barn]

Evening everyone

[soft barn]

Did a Mactera Plague warning at Haz 3 in a public lobby once.

All 3 of my teammates went down at once because they weren't paying attention to the skies

[unkempt saffron]

Get the black box done first and build a canopy over it to mitigate the macteras somewhat

[topaz acorn]

Gotcha, yeah i need to get better with making canopy's quickly

[unkempt saffron]

Building pipes shouldnt be much of a hassle since they can be easily connected with some well placed plats

[topaz acorn]

Does engineer have any specific mactera upgrades like driller does?

[unkempt saffron]

Also, id suggest gemini turrets to be used so that you can cover more areas with sentrues

[unkempt saffron]

None

[north urchin]

In a team we didn't need a canopy it was quite easy.

[unkempt saffron]

Your weapons are the only things against macteras

[topaz acorn]

Oh cool, i usually use Gemini and the fast target long range upgrade

[unkempt saffron]

For a solo engi it may be preferrable

[sly raven]

Do gemini turrets end up being an ammo efficiency problem generally or do you make it up with defender system?

[north urchin]

I used my stubby loadout with EM discharge very good CC with fatboy.

[topaz acorn]

I just really like having two turrets lol

[sly raven]

Though solo you have tons of nitra in DD

[soft barn]

Technically the platform gun because it can be used to block goo bombers? (Also with the bug repelling platforms)

[ebon anchor]

Damn, this EDD predigging the eggs make it a ton more tolerable

[topaz acorn]

Is bug repellent worth losing the fall damage mitigation?

I haven't tried it

[ebon anchor]

Repellent doesn't replace the fall damage

[sly raven]

Fall damage is its own tier

[topaz acorn]

Oh i thought it did

[unkempt saffron]

Depends on how you use them, you can use the gemini system while utilizing only 1 sentry most of the time but that takes away the advantage of having 2 sentries taking care of bugs

[north urchin]

Can cause an ammo issue if you rely heavily on them I tend to use them as fire support since my main damage comes form EM discharge, if you don't have EM discharge you can use LOK-1 Or any weapon you prefer to thin the ranks.

[topaz acorn]

Well shoot why aren't i using it then

😂

[soft barn]

Honestly it's an awesome upgrade

[ebon anchor]

Sometimes I don't use repellent if I feel like parkouring some more lol

[topaz acorn]

I can't remember what i decided to use instead but i think I'll get that upgrade soon as i get back on

[sly raven]

I've done cheeky stuff like build a wall of platforms behind me with repellent so I knew they wouldn't crawl down the walls behind

It was an eye opener

[north urchin]

Its good suppressive fire,

[soft barn]

I'd recommend getting ammo upgrades to it personally

[topaz acorn]

Wouldn't you just need to build a straight line behind you? @sly raven

On the wall

[north urchin]

I'll stick with quick building the normal build time is slow as hell.

[sly raven]

That's basically what I'm describing

[soft barn]

I meant for the platform gun

[sly raven]

quick build with gemini feels pretty mandatory for me, but I never run gemini

[north urchin]

Oh okay, For that I use bug repellent its actually quite useful.

[sly raven]

My only promotion so far is scout <.<

[soft barn]

Double turrets with Gemini is great though

[sly raven]

I always worry about ammo waste

[topaz acorn]

I've only used Gemini and i haven't gotten quick build yet lol

[soft barn]

Build time is only like 3 seconds or something

[north urchin]

Doesn't take long to hit level 25 🙂 you also only need 1 promo star to join a dive, unless you want 3 legendary stars 🙂

[sly raven]

4, I think?

[north urchin]

6 actually

[unkempt saffron]

Ammo waste? Your turrets will shoot everything with more accuracy than an scc scout

[soft barn]

Oh, really?

[sly raven]

Yes, but gemini turrets do less damage per bullet

[soft barn]

Still feels pretty fast

[north urchin]

Think so? each turret takes 3 sec to build?

[sly raven]

ah 4s was me thinking solo turret not gemini I think

[unkempt saffron]

Thats not a concern, youre trading damage for more ammo and greater sentry coverage

[soft barn]

Something like that; I usually set the turrets up before a holdout objective personally.

For black boxes/uplink terminals/etc I put one on either side

[north urchin]

Unless of cause you need quick cover fire RIGHT NOW because there's a swarm on your ass.

Which happens quite often to me 😛

[sly raven]

I haven't done the math on if the additional bullets math out to make up for the damage loss, but I'm pretty sure thinking about this further is a trap

[topaz acorn]

More ammo plus less damage also means less overkill

[soft barn]

Same lmao

[north urchin]

putting both of them side by side isn't bad also they tend to focus on the closest target so that poor bug gets a huge DPS hit..

[soft barn]

Granted I'm a Lok-1/BC main

Gotta shave those Praetorians after all

[topaz acorn]

I tried the lok for one trip and i had a hard time getting used to it. I really like the shotgun

[north urchin]

If you have EM Discharge for stubby, and fatboy for PGL its awesome CC deploy your turrets build them then shoot them 🙂 lots of damage

[unkempt saffron]

Dont main only single weapons, main all of them

[soft barn]

Took me like 5 games to get used to it

[north urchin]

LOK is fun 🙂 but I'm currently enjoying shooting my turrets.

[soft barn]

First time I used it was Industrial Sabotage

Got wrecked by the Caretaker at first after not realizing the line is the bullet trajectory

[topaz acorn]

Oh yeah I've got that turret whip thing. That's a lifesaver lol

[soft barn]

Warthog is pretty fun but at lower levels it's poopoo

The jury-rigged shotgun is also somewhat meh from when I've used it

[ancient sinew]

I love my lok and nothing on the warthog can take me away from it

[soft barn]

Also, the Stubby is really fun

Basically Ruskrunner lite

[floral meteor]

I got hyper propellant and nothing else even comes close to it.

I'm sure fat boy is good but I don't have it yet

[wraith shard]

Only engy gun i dont like is the warthog

Stubby and lok feel a lot more satisfying and capable of actual clear when built that way

I always feel impotent with the shotty

[unkempt saffron]

Warthog is easily the most versatile engi gun

All you need to do is just get close and fire at weakspots

[wraith shard]

Mag size sucks and upgrdes to it trade off with other important things

I dont need to get close with lok and i can do the same byt better with stubby

Turret whip is the only real selling point

[unkempt saffron]

Mag size isnt too bad, its got some really solid ocs, and its ammo economy can only really be rivalled by the stubby

[vernal willow]

Oof, had such a good start to the EDD right up until the 2nd to last Deep Core Drill and then got wiped

[stray dock]

Think a lot of us can relate to that

[fossil lagoon]

this week's EDD is indeed tough....

"do you wanna pull the egg first or wait till the dozer is done?"
"after"

dozer drills out the egg
double swarm
yup.

[north urchin]

Stage 2 man... almost complete it again but this time dotty died...

EDD of cause,

I'm running out of tactics to try...

[north urchin]

EDD or normal? It's very annoying yes on EDD...

[tranquil apex]

my net dropped during stage 3 of the EDD when we was almost done with it 😦 we had 1 dread done and 100 morkite done

looks like im not getting a cosmetic oc this weeks edd cba to do it again

[tranquil apex]

our driller swapped from cryo to sticky flame and we got through stage 2 first shot when we had wiped with cryo

although we also got a bulk&spitter at the same time around when we wiped so that may of been the issue more then the switch

[north urchin]

Wait help me clear it up your driller used sticky flame or cryo?

[tranquil apex]

sticky

he tried cryo first time and then we wiped

and he went to sticky

made stage 1 a bit harder but made stage 2 easier

[north urchin]

What about sludge? quite good for dreads also.

[tranquil apex]

we didnt try sludge, he said he was a sticky main

and it worked out so had no need to try

[north urchin]

Its easier with 3 people map layout is different also on stage 2.

Slightly more nitra

[supple hollow]

I think this is the first edd i cant do solo

stage 2 its just too hard keeping the dozer alive

[north urchin]

YAY I FINALLY COMPLETED IT!!!!!! After like 8 painful tries!!!

3 player team made it easier

[supple hollow]

they should let bosco repair the dozer

[north urchin]

freaking painful man this week...

Inept?

[civic void]

anyone wanna edd?

[unkempt saffron]

Go to #lfg-steam etc and see if anyones interested to join

[waxen terrace]

<@&296918282403840000> ^^

[lunar helm]

lol

[haughty nova]

just beat the EDD

big oof

thankfully crystal caverns isn't very mean

[waxen terrace]

4 tries and wiped

driller didnt tell us they ran out of fuel and had to waste a resupp

and got mobbed by macterras and bulks

also an engi who never touched haz5

getting really annoyed cause its always that 1 screw-up which costs the entire run

[spring axle]

First attempt at the EDD this week ended in failure to the double swarm on stage 2, oof. Bizarrely we had an Engi who ragequit after taking a few stray friendly fire shots stage one, only to re-join the game once we failed to say some very mean words to us. Never had an interaction like that in DRG, it was kind of surreal. Who patiently waits for a game to be over just to re-join to talk smack?

ANYWAYS, so is the strat for stage 2 this week just do the eggs first with a driller to reach them and then do the escort?

[ruby osprey]

that was my plan but my team grabbed an egg and activated doretta both times so we had 2 waves coming after us thru the tunnel lol

actually worked, just gotta have a good team

[spring axle]

That's always the tricky thing, isn't it? 😅

[ruby osprey]

gotta have a good team to go grab the eggs too tbh lol

[glossy dock]

This week EDD was well ammo budgeted

Always AUGH without being out out

[obsidian temple]

Wait is under 45 mins good?

Got it on my first go with a friend

[waxen olive]

I didn't have too much of a problem with stage 2 solo, but good grief that Morkite was hard to find.

[glossy dock]

That’s the achievement yay

[waxen olive]

It just blends into the cave walls and takes forever to find sometimes.

[open ledge]

I get to do the deep dive tn

Wish me luck, I’ll find a good stack later so if anyone wants to join later lemme know, I’ll post something in steam lfg tonight

[unkempt saffron]

Grab the eggs first since theyre closely situated to each other AND you wont trigger a swarm when dotty is drilling*, then predrill all the way to the halfway point to recon and find some nitra, if your driller was careful with his drill usage before this and the previous stage, you may have extra fuel to dig all the way to the stone, if your driller did the contrary then digging till the halfway point should suffice and you all can start dotty up

By the halfway point you should have a sufficient amount of nitra for a resup or two, so use them wisely since youll most likely need it when the uninvited bulk comes to ruin the party

[waxen terrace]

<@&296918282403840000>

[novel ferry]

where's DD info?

[modern moss]

it’s in #deep-dive-speedrunning

[novel ferry]

thank you

[jolly hazel]

its in the pinned messages in this channel

[pallid copper]

I need a team for this edd I almost beat it stage 2 of it with a scout we were at the hearthstone but he stood on Dorris and got flatten by rocks

[stray dock]

Sounds like he got rocked and stoned

[sage kraken]

This Week's elite deep dive objectives?

[random rampart]

p i n n e d

the pinned msg in here is always updated every week

[sage kraken]

oh.

then sorry

[random rampart]

[sage kraken]

didn't know about that

[open ledge]

Imma post this here for those new to deep dives, idk if it’s allowed, if not lemme know but this is useful for players new to the game and deep dives

https://youtu.be/1V3JxR4W5Fg

[foggy hawk]

is there any major reward difference between EDD and DD? besides the usual gold and mat %?

[viscid oak]

Nope just another opportunity to earn the matrix cores (9 earnable a week…3 of which are in EDD)

[foggy hawk]

oh i thouught the cap of matrix cores was 1 for an assignment and 1 for dd

so i could earn 6 as a casual huh

[viscid oak]

Yeah 🙂

[foggy hawk]

thank you for that clarification

time for me to spam this for a while

[viscid oak]

Also like normal DD you’ll get a blank core stage 1, infused weapon matrix stage 2, aesthetic matrix stage 3

[foggy hawk]

wonder if anyone from lfg chat will join lol

[random rampart]

sing the ole dwarven song of rocknstone

[foggy hawk]

is the 6 cores blank ones or is it general cores?

so i only need to do 2 runs or?

[viscid oak]

Read it again

stage 1 blank

[unkempt saffron]

you get 1 blank core, 1 weapon core and 1 cosmetic core, each corresponding to a stage

completing 1 stage will net you said reward, but if you fail the next stage then you wont get the next reward

[foggy hawk]

ye but im just curious what the 6 total means, i asume its any category

[viscid oak]

you run an EDD you’ll get 3 total that’s it

[random rampart]

it means you get 2 blank, 2 weapon and 2 cosmetic

[unkempt saffron]

6 cores, 3 each for dd and edd

[foggy hawk]

ah ok

[viscid oak]

You run a DD you’ll get 3 total that’s it

[foggy hawk]

my brain was slow there sorry

[viscid oak]

Weekly challenge you’ll get 3 total that’s it

[foggy hawk]

aaaaaaand as i hosted a lfg chat a russian joined which i tried ask if they could talk english 😅

so will likely try join someone

[unkempt saffron]

it takes time for people to join your dd, but after someone joins youll get another person within a minute or two at least

and it helps to play on peak hours

[foggy hawk]

whats even peak hours in this game

[random rampart]

well

peak hours

[unkempt saffron]

usually people playing at night, after work or school

or weekends

pretty much applies to any game

[viscid oak]

Most people will select close when searching for lowest ping so peak will be your Timezone

[foggy hawk]

fair

probably mid day eu time

weekends

shrug

thanks for responding people

[random rampart]

which eu part tho

[foggy hawk]

sweden 🇸🇪

[unkempt saffron]

also, when dd and edd resets occur(and the following hours after) those can be considered as peak times too

[polar jungle]

Do u need a dood?

[foggy hawk]

eh taking a break kinda

joined a rando

[polar jungle]

I can be on in 15

[foggy hawk]

i mean u can join if u dare taking a greenbeard to EDD

cuz already doin DD

[jolly hazel]

peak hrs is when the wagies get off work and weekends

[lunar aspen]

I feel attacked by working right now @jolly hazel

[thorn patio]

Jesus this weeks edd is rough

Just can't seem to do 2nd mission

[jolly hazel]

have you tried killing the bugs

i think pre drilling to just pop the second egg on the path of the dread is important so u don't get double swarmed

we didn't get bulks like others did and the egg didn't cause a swarm

[thorn patio]

Yeah i think that's probably the way to go. Too much shit to handle otherwise

[true lotus]

If 3 guys die

And 1 guy mades it to the drop pod

Does it still count as finished!

?

[tall meadow]

yes

[wicked roost]

yes

[true lotus]

Thank ya

[wet belfry]

anybody wanna run a DD?

[thorn patio]

Holy shit just landed in with 3 other engis and we demolished 1st mission

ENGINEER GAMING

I love being able to whip 6 turrets at once

Don't have arc yet.

[main anvil]

This weeks dd has literally no nitra

Both

Dd easy but no nitra anywhere

Ah second stage has a bunch

[hoary cove]

every dd i do, i end up with at least 400 nitra

and thats when the team is lazy and speed running it

you can easily end with like 600

[main anvil]

Yeah first stage had like 50 but second has 200+ easy

[steep kelp]

Anybody else finding it almost impossible to beat the Edd stage 2?

[jolly hazel]

I dont think a mission can generate without 160 nitra

[dusty oracle]

has even one single person completed this weeks EDD? I would be surprised

[azure lance]

Anyone for EDD??

[hoary cove]

it’s not that bad. It’s just the first actually difficult edd that playstation players have experienced so far

[dusty oracle]

I've had all kinds of groups and several months of EDDs, havent had a wall like this since the Glacial Strata Extraction Point one back in I think Nov

think it has more to do with how Lethal damage and Doretta interact

[hoary cove]

i just made sure to bring lots of aoe and it was manageable

ifgs always help for bulks in case those spawn

[thorn patio]

I love people that continue to sit on top of the dozer WHEN THERE'S A FUCKING BULK LOOSE

🤦‍♂️

[mystic ingot]

The cave generation is a bit different from PC to playstation as well. It was doable to solo on playstation and a pc players have solo'ed theirs

as kinked said though you need a lot of aoe

[hoary cove]

what builds have you tried it for it’s @dusty oracle

[steep kelp]

I can’t even get to the hearthstone on stage 2. Guess that’s what playing with Randoms gets you

[calm garden]

Rock and stone!!

[jolly hazel]

what are you wiping to

[thorn patio]

Got to the heartstone this time but wiped

Getting better

[jolly hazel]

which stage

as in

1-5

rocks are mitigated if engie does the bridge

[thorn patio]

Yeah we wiped to roccs

[jolly hazel]

and beamers are almost a non issue because shitty dps

so

what your engie needs to do

is make a platform cover from the wall

over the dozer about one dwarf height above and keep spamming to fix holes

[thorn patio]

The one time I decide to run scout i get further than before but then rip

[jolly hazel]

do u feel like you can carry

[thorn patio]

Not confident enough to carry yet

[jolly hazel]

just realized this lol

[jolly hazel]

how are you finishing kills wise

the kill positions should be engie 1 gunner 2 driller 3(interchangeable with gunner sometimes) 4 scout

almost all Playstation players are new and probably not confident lol

[mystic ingot]

do you have the embedded detonator overclock for zhukov?

[thorn patio]

Nope

I run minelets atm

[mystic ingot]

hmmm I was running drak-25 with thermal exhaust and embedded detonators on zhukov to go through the edd on playstation

[thorn patio]

I have tef but dets continue to elude me thus far

[wet belfry]

just got to the final stage of stage 2 EDD and wiped just due to the swarm size... ugh...

i don't even care about the cosmetic, just want that sweet, sweet OC

[thorn patio]

Usually 3-4 as i tend to focus on HVTs when running scout

[jolly hazel]

thermal exhaust is good

also thats good

which one is tef

[wet belfry]

impact deflection is my favorite, once you get past the learning curve ofc

[thorn patio]

Thermal Exhaust Feedback

[jolly hazel]

whats ur build

[wet belfry]

i was running engi

[jolly hazel]

oh I thought u meant a zhukov oc

[thorn patio]

I just call it tef for short

[wet belfry]

i use ED for zhuks

pretty much always

[jolly hazel]

thats basically my build drak+zhukov

I use uh

the ammo buff one

and blowthrough

and it shreds swarms

[wet belfry]

karl.gg has an impact deflection build that does work

[jolly hazel]

also deals comparable to embedded dets on bigguns

[wet belfry]

https://karl.gg/preview/5206#/

[jolly hazel]

impact deflection is pretty simple

[mystic ingot]

what is dets lmao, I'm not that good with short forms

[jolly hazel]

just pair it with plasma splash

sets is

dets

[wet belfry]

embedded detonatorx

[jolly hazel]

embedded det

[thorn patio]

Embedded detonators

[jolly hazel]

that

[jolly hazel]

just spam grenades lol

whenever u see them spawn

[wet belfry]

i feel like scout is necessary to get enough nitra but the low DPS is killer on this EDD

[jolly hazel]

yeah u need a semi decent power class

or 3

[thorn patio]

Might actually run it solo. If anything i can git gud through trial and error

[wet belfry]

whew, gl man

that's gonna be RUFF

[jolly hazel]

as scout?

[mystic ingot]

if you're able to run tefs and like the drak-25 I'd recommend using it. I ran through it solo using the drak-25, although hopefully you get the embedded dets soon

[thorn patio]

Nah going back to engi for solo

[jolly hazel]

solo escort is fucking hell

engie might be better

[wet belfry]

what build you thinking?

[thorn patio]

Engi is my solo class atm

[mystic ingot]

use whatever class you feel comfortable on

[wet belfry]

in a party i've been doing great with LOK-1 Executioner but i don't think it'd be great solo

puts in work if you can consistently hit the weakspots on dreads

[wraith shard]

holy fk

the EDD this week

is rough

[thorn patio]

Not too sure yet. Thinking stubby/cutter

[wet belfry]

that's why we're all here instead of trying it again lol

trying to get some TIPS

[wraith shard]

i was running drak TEF myself

considering running OPA

anyone given that a shot yet?

[jolly hazel]

lok 1 is nice solo because u get so many resups

[wet belfry]

true

[magic sandal]

Did my first deep dive today solo.
Wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.

[wet belfry]

i rarely run solo but i might give it a try

seems like the only way to have enough ammo lol

[jolly hazel]

congrats

haz 3/3.5/3.5

[wet belfry]

Rock and stone!

[thorn patio]

Exe lok is my go to for dreads so i might run that with cutter

[jolly hazel]

unironically pray for a good team

[wet belfry]

lmao

[wet belfry]

I'm just worried about wave clear mostly

cutter is good but low ammo

[jolly hazel]

especially since solo all bugs are following you

its just timing

waiting till they are all on u

then breach cuttering

[wet belfry]

my timing tends to be garbo lol

[jolly hazel]

comes with time!

[wet belfry]

every time i try to kite i get stuck on a wall or fall in a hole

or both

[jolly hazel]

I try to make a mental map

of the cave im in

so I know where I am without looking

[wet belfry]

the layout this week is insane tho

[jolly hazel]

yeah

[wet belfry]

lots of verticality

well, gl all... gonna go heat up a hot pocket and try again!

[thorn patio]

Hmmmm i only have em discharge for stubby

[jolly hazel]

based

good luck

[jolly hazel]

eh

em refire makes it shine imo

dps goes crazy

[thorn patio]

Yeah the lack of refire kinda kills it for me atm

[jolly hazel]

you honestly can't go wrong with the shotgun

[thorn patio]

I love the warty but RNGESUS WON'T GIVE ME ANY FUCKING OCS FOR IT

I'd have a much easier time using it with either MPA or minis

[jolly hazel]

clean warthog is fine

[thorn patio]

But no lemme get my 15th gunner oc XD

[jolly hazel]

do u not like gunner

[thorn patio]

I use it from time to time when i feel the need to dakka

[jolly hazel]

I always run gunner on edd because shield is too important for me to entrust it to a random

[cobalt flame]

What gunner loadouts do yall usually run for edd's. I have 0 good gunner OC'S so I assume minigun and brt7?

[azure wraith]

oh god that edd

[jolly hazel]

autocannon is better than minigun for crowds without any oc, secondary is honestly personal preference if u want long range capability or short range burst

usually depending on what your primary is specced for (secondary becomes opposite)

what oc do you have

[cobalt flame]

Havent used the AC more than once tbh since I assumed it was OC dependent to be viable. Would minigun be preferrable at least this week considering the two dread missions?

[jolly hazel]

thats down to personal preference

and no ac works perfectly fine stock

also

the stage 2 escort is much more dangerous imo due to lethal enemies

[cobalt flame]

https://tenor.com/view/sweat-nervous-stressed-wet-gif-12558735

Lethal enemies on Haz 5.5

[old widget]

*Haz 5 (EDD is 4.5 / 5 / 5.5)
Still prolly gonna get one-shot by slashers tho

[jolly hazel]

simply do not get hit

[burnt sandal]

nah, slashers will "only" deal 68 damage per hit with 4 players

[violet warren]

So, as much as I don't like cheese when playing driller, if the mission is a hazard 5 lethal enemies escort, with a side of eggs, I am going to cheese the mission

[old widget]

a.k.a. “Rule #1 for Haz 5” 😉

[violet warren]

Predrilling to the eggs, then building a bunker to deal with the swarm optimally

A bulk showed up but we managed to kill it before it could get through

[old widget]

As long as everyone’s having fun and getting their coveted OCs, carry on.

[burnt sandal]

or you could just do the eggs after the dozer instead

so you don't have to bore your team do death by predrilling

just sayin'

[violet warren]

The team in the regular deep dive recommended the strat for drilldozer+eggs so it worked well in the elite dive

Didn't predrill past the eggs though

[burnt sandal]

ultimately, I guess it's up to you... and to the host being okay with it, if you're not hosting

[old widget]

Trade off of time + more ambient waves (and possibly more nitra used) for a little less hectic drilldozer ride

[burnt sandal]

not sure there are ambient waves in escort

[old widget]

There definitely are!

[burnt sandal]

at least until you started the dozer, outside of special spawn like exploders

[old widget]

If you’ve ever done machine events after heartstone you know it

[burnt sandal]

can't say I've ever pre-drilled a lot though lol

[old widget]

Also seen em in predrill

[burnt sandal]

I have and never noticed any spawn unless the button was pushed

[old widget]

I don’t think there’s any mission type that spawns zero bugs if you sit there and do nothing forever

Even elim will spit out some ambient waves here and there, though few and far between

[burnt sandal]

I can't say I've ever been sitting somewhere doing nothing

that might be why lol

[old widget]

Yeah, I play with my kids sometimes, it can be…slow paced.

[burnt sandal]

make sense

[jolly hazel]

egg 2 gets dug out by dozer path

and its in the direct next room

i dont pre drill in edd though i agree

unless its bs like that

[woeful current]

New battle pass?

[thorn patio]

Oof got through the heartstone but died on the way back

[polar jungle]

Every predrill I've done has gone way better

[buoyant wing]

sorry but I have to agree, cheese goes great with eggs

[quiet wyvern]

2 Escorts, fantastic

[pallid copper]

Stage 2 wouldn’t be so bad if people didn’t fall off the drill at the start dying

[dusty junco]

my deep drive be so fine then boom

escort

[thorn patio]

My biggest issue now is people camping on the dozer

[pallid copper]

You trying to play

[thorn patio]

One rock hits that shit and three people die

Yeah

[pallid copper]

Are u on PlayStation

[thorn patio]

Yup

TrKMeRL1N

[pallid copper]

In a minute

[unkempt saffron]

Unless if youre playing solo predrilling is always a must in my books, especially when it comes to dd and edd since you can at least take care of the other objective and scavenge for more nitra

[fluid plover]

predrilling more than one room is a waste of time and often a waste of ammo

and more importantly, is very boring

[unkempt saffron]

What, predrilling for things like an edd is quintessential if you plan on making it through the stage

And ideally, one should attempt to predrill all the way to the stone

[jolly hazel]

hell no lol

enough bugs still spawn on haz 5 to waste ammo on

I have done almost every edd without pre drilling

just kil the bugs

leaving the nitra gives scout something to do while the rest of the team do important stuff at stops

[unkempt saffron]

But if the nitra was already mined beforehand thatll give the scout something else to do like defending dotty or taking vare of hvts, things which can be far more important than say mining nitra while dotty is moving or has stopped somewhere

Predrilling only main downside is you still have to fight swarms, but the fact you get to complete the second objective early, mine any nitra available in the following rooms, and get a good idea of where dotty is going to drill to is far more useful than anything

[jolly hazel]

it wastes time and ammo dealing with the half swarms

like I said scout can do this all during the ~5 minutes driller and gunner are figuring out how to get the shale

[unkempt saffron]

Or you can do that beforehand and get a better idea of it

[jolly hazel]

unless its a swarm you need (1) dwarf preferably engie watching the drill

if your gunner is competent he should have ziplines up in 20 seconds

[unkempt saffron]

Thats besides the point, you can do all that even with predrilling

Hell you can do that during predrilling

[jolly hazel]

yeah? you can do it without predrilling too

its lengthening a mission that already can easily go into 1 hour range

[mystic ingot]

As long as you get the clear it doesn't really matter lool

[unkempt saffron]

And predrilling is gonna take what? Half an hour to predrill? Yeah sure

[jolly hazel]

at least 10-15 minutes if you want to go thru every cave like you said

[unkempt saffron]

You basically get the option to explore the entire cave without dotty being a liability

[jolly hazel]

if your team is competent dotty is not a liability at the stops unless a bulk spawns

as in the drill should not be losing armor unless nobody is guarding it or nobody goes back during swarm

[unkempt saffron]

Thats already something worth predrilling for, if you can get the lay of the land first then at the very least your team would be able to kite that bulk elsewhere, or maybe trigger it when you are predrilling

[jolly hazel]

id honestly hope my team gets the lay of the land within the first 10 seconds of them seeing the cave

because its so vital to gameplay

also I have seen bulks spawn within 2 waves of each other

I think its totally rng

[unkempt saffron]

If theyve played that stage several times already then sure, its a moot point

[jolly hazel]

?

no I mean without pre drilling and first time

its basic object permanence lol

[unkempt saffron]

Yeah and thats my point, you wont get to know the lay of the land unless you predrill further into other caves until at the very least the halfway point

[jolly hazel]

that's not what I'm saying

an experienced player

should be able to map out the area

basically as soon as they see it

they shouldn't need to pre drill in order to figure out where the oil shale and nitra is lol

just look

[tardy flower]

I need advice on loadouts and upgrades for the heavy in deep dives

[jolly hazel]

its the gunner

[tardy flower]

Gunner I mean sorry

[jolly hazel]

np

[unkempt saffron]

But why just leave it to that only? Going based off assumption and estimation is better than going there and seeing it for yourselves?

[jolly hazel]

what are you running

[jolly hazel]

I dont mean assuming anything

[unkempt saffron]

What level is your gunner?

[jolly hazel]

a competent player should be able to immediately react to their surroundings and improvise their plan to collect shale and nitra

well he has to be 25 lol

to do a dd

[unkempt saffron]

Oh yeah, well if you have an autocannon just use that

[mystic ingot]

Honestly what would be deemed useful for an individual player just depends on player skill. If one player is at a higher echelon of skill then they would be able to scan an area in a matter of seconds. But if another player isn't at that level then predrilling may be more beneficial

it really just depends what the team wants to do and the skill level of the team

[unkempt saffron]

Thats still resorting to assumptions and immediate improvisations, now im not saying thats a bad strat or anything, but id prefer if my team was more proactive in seeking out how we will go about our next steps, and predrilling facilitates with that

[tardy flower]

promoted

i dont think you get any other perks for being more than 25

i cant share my loadout cause no image sharing

[unkempt saffron]

Perks arent really related to promos besides having that extra active perk or perk assignments

Do you have any ocs? Or are you new?

[tranquil apex]

I crashed at the very end of the third lvl in the EDD, am i just screwed? I really dont want to play through it again just for the cosmetic

[unkempt saffron]

Crashed? As in your game crashed?

[tranquil apex]

well no it wasnt a crash sorry wrong word

my net dropped

[tardy flower]

ocs?

[violet warren]

Can confirm, random dreads seem a lot more common recently

[tranquil apex]

it kicked me back to the lobby saying something about my internet dropping

[unkempt saffron]

If youre really keen on the cosmetic oc then sure give it a second shot, otherwise you can just ignore it since youve finished the first 2 and arguably more important stages

[tranquil apex]

ive had a few people tell me i should always try for the cosmetic one bc of the forge mastery

since im still trying to get the good ocs

although i feel like if i buy all of the cosmetic OC i wont have any credits/minerals anyways

[unkempt saffron]

Weapon overclocks, theres some empty space at the bottom of your weapon which allows for an oc, this can vary by either improving small aspects of your weapon to entirely making them do something else

[unkempt saffron]

You can gun for that i guess, personally i find them to be too resource and gold heavy to justify for forge levels

[tranquil apex]

that's how i felt as well yeah. I'm only at like 300 enor pearls and 400k credits which feels like it'd go REALLY fast

[unkempt saffron]

Imo, just save up on when you actually need the ocs, sure the road to get all ocs is a matter of patience, but at least you wont be broke at the end of it

Besides, if you play the weekly core hunt assignment, dd and edd regularly each week it should take about 5 months or so to get all ocs

[tranquil apex]

ive only been playing for like a month but i try to hit all of those weekly things yeah

[fading creek]

For some reason the first draednaught in that very closed room took me like 4 tries to kill, the rest was fine buf that one dread kicked my ass

[violet warren]

Usually when there's a dreadnought that doesn't have a good arena you pull it to the spawn room

I think my team pulled at least one of the dreads to spawn to fight it

[agile kernel]

is it just me or this week's edd proves a big ammo problem

any advice

[rough hedge]

same, and lots of similar posts in this week's reddit deep dive thread. people talking about using the bulk detonators to kill the dreadnoughts which seems kinda precise!

[fallow niche]

it sounds like a pain in the ass compared to just... shooting the dreadnoughts

but if the opportunity presents itself i suppose you may as well try

but yeah i think there's like... three resupplies' worth on stage 1(?), and with so i'd say the best practice is to get as much as you can, kill the dreads as quickly as possible and gtfo to the next stage before passive spawns burn through your ammo

[rough hedge]

trying to go psycho mode and find three other like minded who are fine just skipping the secondaries. who cares man ya don't get anything special for em

but i suppose that is NOT very rock and stone of me

[fallow niche]

...for deep dives?

[rough hedge]

right do you have to get the eggs too?

[fallow niche]

yeah with deep dives you dont have a 'secondary' objective in the conventional sense

you have two main objectives, basically

the second one is just minor / easier, e.g. 2 eggs, 150 morkite, 1 dread

but you can't progress until both are done

[rough hedge]

my intricate plans, dashed

[spring axle]

Just got finished with the EDD on the back of this strategy. Was a super close call with the drilldozer, it was about 10% away from dead with one dwarf left standing when we broke through to the heartstone. Stage 3 ended up being a breeze even with no resups left going into it.

[unkempt saffron]

Well, thats stage 2 edd escorts in a nutshell

[gaunt valve]

holyyyyyyyyyyy shit that was a wild edd

we were running stupid low on nitra and and accidentally started the dreadnaught on stage three

so me being a good scout ran off and found nitra while I left the others to deal with the dreads and holy shit it was close

we made it out though

even had a bulk on stage 2 during the last phase

I've never seen a bulk die that fast

[ripe shard]

Anyone know where I can find out what missions are what in each stage for EDD?

[gaunt valve]

the pins for this channel

the lil pin icon in the top right

[hoary cove]

so i just did the deep dive with some friends and we decided to do the last 2 dreadnaughts at the same time

[tall meadow]

Ez pass

[hoary cove]

fate and i did it with sheng

[tall meadow]

Ez win

[hoary cove]

gg too ez only died 4 times

truly i am god

[tall meadow]

And then you have me and my group of randoms

[hoary cove]

ransoms can turn out to be the a team sometimes

[tall meadow]

Double digit downs on them minus the scout

[hoary cove]

ngl i almost screwed us by popping the eggs and causing a double swarm

[tall meadow]

stage 2 EDD took a big bite out of us because of 2 bulks at early point and another at last stage with a misplaced shield and bad prioritisation

[hoary cove]

we only had 1 luckily

[tall meadow]

yea I said fuck it and got the eggs first because drilldozer pathing be that way

Stage 3 is basically me just tripping over myself because fast as fuck boi

Dealing main damage but also being too fast and DRG physics downing self on walls

[hoary cove]

i just ran in a circling while we fought the twins and hiveguard, waited for the freeze so i cud use hyper

twas foon

[tall meadow]

This one was just more messy because of me playing half awake early in the morning and some bad plays kek

[hoary cove]

same i did it like 2 hours ago and it’s 3am kek

[woeful scroll]

Is it me or videos of the fast slopes do not match Playstation

Dorsett keeps flying up straight up

Doretta

Other vids show she goes straight

[fierce minnow]

Hey! Sorry if this has been asked before, but I have tried searching and I cant seem to find any specific info about this; with regards to the amount of players in a EDD - how does the difficulty scale compared to regular missions and DD? Is there for instance noticeable difference between EDD with 2 players compared to 3 or 4? Again, sorry if this has been explained already

[unkempt saffron]

Most of this is explained in the wiki

All modes will have the regular amount of players, which is 4 max

[burnt sandal]

it scales in the same way than normal missions

[unkempt saffron]

EDDs are substantially harder than the DD and for the most part, harder than any mission below haz 4

Though since EDDs reset weekly there will be some EDDs which will be easier than the others, though for the most part they still arent a simple walk in the park

And yes, they do scale with the number of players in game

[fierce minnow]

Sweet, thanks, we’ve noticed the insane difference between DD and elite yeah, thats why I asked 🙈 we’ve been grinding since the psn release and are really enjoying the game

Was really hyped for DDs but kinda let down by how manageable it was. Then we tried edd yesterday …

[unkempt saffron]

A simple idea for the difficulty is this
DD: 3 > 3.5 > 3.5
EDD: 4.5 > 5 > 5.5

[fierce minnow]

Realized theres a huge ceiling here and we’re not close yet :p

[burnt sandal]

the difference between both is the difficulty level

[fierce minnow]

Aah right

Yeah that explains alot

[unkempt saffron]

Until your team can reliably do haz 4 missions with minimal downs, or better yet haz 5 missions with minimal downs, then id suggest practising more first

[fierce minnow]

Regardless of scaling though, the optimal number in terms of difficulty is 4? Like, to be able to complete

[unkempt saffron]

Number of players?

[fierce minnow]

Yeah

[unkempt saffron]

You can run through edds solo if you want, but if you want a full team with everyone playing a class, or maybe multiple of the same classes then 4 is fine too, but number of players for an edd is merely up to how youre comfortable playing with, and if you can get 3 other players to play with you too

[fierce minnow]

Me and my bud do haz5 but thats a stretch still, the rest of the gang struggle with 4 if we arent there to carry, so thats the dilemma/reason for trying a duo

But thanks alot for the info, clears up alot of things, guess we just need to get good

[unkempt saffron]

So id say 4 players isnt necessarily the gold standard to run edds optimally, but you wont really lack any sort of ability due to the lack of a class

[burnt sandal]

there's no optimal number, unless you're a speedrunner

in which case the best number is usually 2

[fierce minnow]

Yeah right right

Thanks guys, sorry for the dumbass questions, maybe I misread the wiki or needed it spoonfed or something, but thanks again really appreciate it 🙂

[burnt sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-bosco-bosco-deep-rock-galactic-salute-robot-gif-15787514

[jolly hazel]

thats fine if you prefer that but its definetly not mandatory like you said

[kindred wasp]

any tips on how to do lacerator and arbalest in EDD solo?

[supple hollow]

stage 2 feels impossible solo

thry should let bosco be able to repair the dozer

[burnt sandal]

switch back and forth between repairing and shooting

don't forget to use your grenades and bosco's rockets

[jolly hazel]

here @kindred wasp

[woeful quarry]

Are there more than 2 detonators in EDD1?

[winter charm]

You're just unlucky to get that spawn pool

I did edd twice no det

So far...

[pallid copper]

Definitely easier on pc than console on stage 2 dorty goes up big hill instead of going straight like pc

[unkempt saffron]

Bulk spawns vary between game to game, i got the unfortunate 3 bulk spawn on stage 2 alone

[steep cloud]

I got 3 dets on EDD1, including two at once

[wraith shard]

Edd que is stuck loading for me ps4

Like never ending load

[quasi quartz]

pretty sure the “infinite loading” means nobody is doing them

at the current moment

[jolly hazel]

that usually means connection but for me

bug

try reset

[steep cloud]

like an infinite spinner and no games? Are any regular Deep Dives showing? If you see regular DD but no EDD, it's probably just that there aren't any EDDs running

which wouldn't be too surprising, PS4 version relatively new so not that many people ready to attempt them, and it's still pretty early morning in the US

[quasi quartz]

around 8am here

so i wouldnt expect many dives

[normal mist]

^spam?

[wraith shard]

Oh that was it then ty

[cold sandal]

hello some french wanna do deep dive ?

[quasi quartz]

lfg channels are down one floor

[burnt sandal]

might wanna give a try in the french discord instead

#fan-communities

[shrewd lichen]

I’m seeing lots of games on PS5 Deep Dive and EDD. I would reset the game.

[supple hollow]

I was on stage 2 edd solo and the bulk det blew up my dozer 😭

i should have tried to kite it or something

[wraith shard]

I fell off the dozer smh that thing takes like a 90 degree angle lol

[odd rover]

Stage 2 EDD is horrible.

Swarmers, acid spitters, detonators, and there's so many...

Oh, and lethal enemies.

[wraith shard]

What should i be taking into edd with gunner? Mini or auto?

[warm light]

Depends on you

I took my Big Bertha build for killing noughts

[pallid copper]

Spent over a hour mining all the way to the eggs making bunkers collecting nitra killed two bulks but game connections losses

[wraith shard]

I ran AC and BRT. Went really well. But yeah, it's up to you and depends a bit on what your team runs. We had enough big boi damage so I could go for aoe on my primary

[nocturne oracle]

Aoe primary for Gunner always good on Escort, with grunts lining up into small clumps

[wraith shard]

Yeah, really needed some good swarm clear for that stage with the huge amount of bugs coming in. Lead spray on brt was good enough for the rest. Only difficulty was really not having the abundance of nitra this week until stage 3. But it was enough

[thorn patio]

Lmao so we dug out around the bottom of the dozer. Turns out the bugs can't touch the damn thing if you dig deep enough

[true lotus]

This edd is ducking hard

Goddamn

[mystic rapids]

best upgrades for the engineer shotty?

any ideas? or

[leaden cypress]

Depends on the OC

also you're in the deep dive channel

[hoary cove]

i had a lot of nitra, so we ended up doing both the dreadnaughts on the last stage at the same time

[mystic rapids]

im stupid

srry

[lofty rock]

would anyone be willing to guide me through a deep dive at some point?

I've been wanting to do one but don't really have a cohesive group for it and would like to learn how to do it somewhat well

[trim creek]

Did they lower the amount of nitra we get in this week’s EDD?

[wraith shard]

when are they making lootbugs real

[tall meadow]

You’re going to have enough of nitra if you’re efficient , one resupply per dread and possibly for the egg swarm and you’ll still have enough for the next stage

[wraith shard]

[tall meadow]

Stage 3 by then you’ll be dumped with full load of nitra

[hazy zenith]

The Elite Deepdives 2nd part is a pain

Already failed like 2 times with the team during the final part of the hearthstone

[ashen veldt]

I could do that if you want

I'm not an expert by any means but I've picked up the gist of what to do and not to do

[deep flicker]

this EDD stage 2 hearthstone 😦

[ashen veldt]

I just barely got past stage 2 solo just now

[digital shuttle]

Why does it feel like nobody can dodge the glyph dread ground aoe unless maybe they are scout

[digital shuttle]

Plenty of nitra

[little timber]

the first mission only has enough for 2 resupplies which is lower than normal

there is more in the next two

what set up have people done with it solo so far? trying to think of something that will be good in both escort and dreads

maybe breachcutter engi?

[hoary cove]

there’s a dude in the speedrun section that did it with sludge blast, neurotoxin nade, and overcharger flying nightmare i think

[little timber]

good for them, im not a psychopath though

Im just a guy

[glossy walrus]

that loadout makes plenty of sense, sludgeblast is a really lazy way to deal with dreads, neuro I imagine is great to defend dotty

[little timber]

whats the best sludge OC for dreads?

[glossy walrus]

sludge blast

you just fire the sludge shotgun at anywhere on their body

[little timber]

any specific build with it?

[glossy walrus]

uh, don't have the game open, but fragment up or damage up seem to end up the same I think

the ammo always feels like it's too little, but in solo you'll have all restocks to yourself so should be less of an issue

[little timber]

alright ill try it out thanks

is the bulk during the first refuel guaranteed to spawn or did I just get fucked my first try?

[glossy walrus]

it's random, I don't think I ever got a bulk there specifically

[little timber]

oof

[glossy walrus]

I've heard lots of people say they got bulks there though

[little timber]

that room was so awful, the room was only the size of 2 dorettas

[glossy walrus]

ah yeah that room is terrible, would def rec predrilling that

oh wait no, that's the 3rd room, the 2nd room with the 1st egg is the absolutely tiny one

[thorn patio]

Can confirm sludge blast is just silly on dreads. So lazy

[little timber]

the first room with the refuel

it was tiny as fuck

ive never tried sludge blast on dreads before, seems interesting

I was running ice spear, is it me or do dreads stay frozen way longer in solo?

[glossy walrus]

it's amazing, they take damage from sludge shots anywhere, so you just shoot it in their face and not care

[little timber]

they were unfreezing instantly

where as in solo they stay frozen long enough for me to ice spear and double axe powerattack

[orchid jasper]

yeah we almost wiped multiple times there. instead wiped on phase 3 of drilling. this was my third attempt. lethal enemies are just brutal

[thorn patio]

Yup. So satisfying

[tardy flower]

https://imgur.com/a/FwZilyH
rate my deep dive loadout

i cant get past the drill mission on the haz5 one this week

[glossy walrus]

I brought a sticky flame build to this edd to better defend dotty with, worked out pretty well

normally I use cryo but sticky flame is too useful here

[hazy zenith]

Honestly maybe bringing steeve along to as a bait for the other bugs to focus on might be a good idea

[tardy flower]

what should i replcae then

[hazy zenith]

Does lethal enemies also apply to steeve?

Maybe the Iron will

I don't know if it would be a good idea to replace revive as the instant revive can be a life saver

[tardy flower]

2, 3, 2, 2, 1 for the flame thrower?

if i want sticky flames?

[little timber]

I like ammo in t4 over duration

14 seconds is overkill

[tardy flower]

well i already have the ammo overclock

[little timber]

but that looks fine

oh wait are you not using stick fuel?

your using lighter tanks?

[tardy flower]

https://imgur.com/a/hdvRxmO

this good?

with steeve

forgot that

[little timber]

second wind is an awful perk

[tardy flower]

i love it but ok

[little timber]

unstoppable is also not great

[tardy flower]

what should i replcae

[leaden cypress]

Pick vampire & dash

[tardy flower]

dash is not a red perk

[leaden cypress]

ye

it's blue

replace iron will

You don't need it if you never die

[little timber]

veteran depositor, born ready, and vampire

all good options

[tardy flower]

i have steeve with it

[little timber]

vampire being the best of those 3

[tardy flower]

instead of iron will

[little timber]

vampire and barbbed drills shreds

[leaden cypress]

replace field medic with dash

[little timber]

even without cryo

[leaden cypress]

get better teammates

[thorn patio]

imagine playing driller without vampire

[tardy flower]

i only used vampire on cryo

but ill use it

[leaden cypress]

Vampire is always good

[little timber]

vampire is good on a fuck ton of builds

hipster scout most noteably

[leaden cypress]

it synergizes well with iron will too

[tardy flower]

neuro grenade good since theres no cryo?

[leaden cypress]

since you don't have to worry about resupplying once you kill an enemy

Neuro will explode with flame

[tardy flower]

isnt that the point?

[little timber]

with the sludge blast build what do you take in the final slot?

[tardy flower]

it works well with flame loadouts

[leaden cypress]

I don't use it for that purpose

i prefer slowing them down

[uneven mountain]

My usual solo EDD build of Ice Storm cryo + Heavy Hitter EPC surprisingly got me through on my first try. Though Doretta was down to about 3% on the last health bar at one point.
I predrilled all of stage 2; I'd recommend at least predrilling halfway to deal with the eggs and Bulk. I got through refueling fast enough to not get any waves there. Had one more Bulk spawn while Doretta was moving, but stick Bosco on it and it's super slow.
I used 1 resupply on stage 1 and 2 resupplies on stage 2, and went into stage 3 with I think about 300 Nitra. So you could easily drop an extra in each stage if needed.
Dash and Beast Master as actives, since there's both Regenerative and Lethal mutators.

[tardy flower]

also my character keeps yelling that i need to upgrade my flare but the flare doesn't have upgrades

[leaden cypress]

Yeah they like to complain about DRG's lack of high-tech

[tardy flower]

is the extra invuln better than the explode shield on sweaty modes like deep dives?

and haz5

[ashen veldt]

Just solo'd an EDD for the first time!

[ashen veldt]

Generally yes iirc

The shield bursts don't do that much last i heard

[tardy flower]

wtf is the point of the drillers flame resistance

its not like you can hurt yourself with your own flames

ill have it anyway cause its the only choice but its cringe

[little timber]

some enemies have flame attacks

[tardy flower]

which ones?

i dont remember one lol

[little timber]

I think part of bulks ground pound is flame

not that your surviving it anyways on haz 5

[tardy flower]

do you just spray a ring of fire around the dozer?

is that why sticky flames are good?

[leaden cypress]

That's a funny thing to do in escort missions yes

Sticky fuel ( & sticky flames in general ) are good for slowing down & killing enemies with DoT

A single sticky flame is enough to kill several haz 5 grunts if they're coming at you in line

[wraith shard]

has anyone got tips for this weeks edd?

i just did my first deep dive solo

my brain hurts

[weary quartz]

ye it takes so long solo

[unkempt saffron]

Yes, sticky flames are very effective when sprayed on the ground rather than on enemies since they slow them down(if you took the mod) and the flames can spread and damage multiple bugs at once

And in general thats the standard way to use it

[pliant adder]

Anyone else finding the hiveguard on DD round 1 bugged?

It isn't spawning hive guard.

[hoary cove]

well known bug

try get it to melee attack you

[pliant adder]

There we go, than

[hoary cove]

worked?

[pliant adder]

It did.

Just jumped around in front of it's face for a minute.

Was constantly just like, patrolling otherwise.

[ashen veldt]

A couple

Are you playing with a full squad?

[hoary cove]

ye it’s annoying glitch but at least you can fix it in the future 👍

[wraith shard]

randoms

[ashen veldt]

Ah

That's more difficult

Like anything, communication is really important

Makes everything so much easier

Specific to this deep dive though?
Keep track of regen bugs on the first stage. Can't let oppressors get away or stall em out

That's not super important honestly

You'll definitely want to drill to the first egg on stage 2 though

[fallow niche]

yeah it's super close to the starting cave, easy to just pickaxe over to even

[ripe shard]

Anyone wanna run some EDD?

I run gunner and I have a buddy who runs scout. Mics only please, we on PlayStation!

PM me if you are down!
Rock & stone!

[fallow niche]

i did so seeing how close it was when i did the EDD, and had an 'oh shit i made the right call' realization when starting the dozer and it went right through where the egg had been prior

[pliant adder]

Predrill on the Doretta stage, there's an egg right in the way and it triggers a swarm.

Oh yeah, you both said.

[heavy crest]

Edd got too many detonator

[deep flicker]

8 hours later

elite beaten with a team of randoms

r&s ...

If you don't have a dedicated AOE gunner you're shafted

[bold maple]

wow this EDD is rough

2 attempts with a decent rando team failed so far

i tried autocannon and minigun

minigun helped with the dreads but hurt more than i thought it would for wave clear and we were worse off overall

[unkempt saffron]

The bulldog and brt are very solid for single target damage, and the ac is an all rounder, try modding your secondaries for single target damage and go ham on the dreads

[bold maple]

Hm, only thing I have good for that is maybe six shooter on revolver

Need to check my brt OC's though

If I had elephant rounds I'd run that

[unkempt saffron]

OCs arent mandatory per se for edds, but fully modding out your weapon will help greatly, i say dont worry too much on what OCs you have or dont have and try your best modding out your weapons to fit your needs, if you need guidance on that then karl.gg or even the steam guides can help you out with that

[bold maple]

Yeah Ive been getting as many OCs as I can. I have some decent ones but havent completed the collection yet.

I have clean OCs for MG/AC

And minelayer for hurricane

[unkempt saffron]

Minelayer is a bit too technical and limiting for something like an edd imo, id suggest against using it in your case

[unkempt saffron]

All of them?

[bold maple]

Nah just one of each for them I think

[unkempt saffron]

Those are?

[bold maple]

Thinned Drum Walls and Composite Drums

So the ammo ones, essentially

I dont main gunner, that just happened to be what I played tonight.

I dont main anyone, tbh

My scout build and engy build is pretty decent though

[vernal willow]

Boo ya! EDD down!

[unkempt saffron]

Id suggest using a class youre comfortable with first rather than jumping into something unfamiliar, if youre better at using a scout or engi then use them instead

[bold maple]

I'm honestly pretty comfortable with every class at the moment. Though my builds for some may be a little more tuned/optimal than others

I've got an OPA/Embed det setup with scout and I usually run ECR Lok-1 with clean oc Breach cutter on engy

[unkempt saffron]

Maybe try using other classes first for the edd, find your footing with them, most important things you need to keep in mind though is firstly youre gonna need a weapon or two which can deal solid burst damage to dreads, next is youre gonna need something ammo efficient to get you through stage 2 because depending on how you and your team runs it you may deplete through nitra faster than you can blink

[bold maple]

Yeah imma give some scout/engy builds a try tomorrow. I have lightweight rounds for Stubby which is pretty ammo efficient

[grim thorn]

Failed 3 tries EDD on escort on first wave. Fall off Loretta every time into the pit she climbs over.

[unkempt saffron]

You can stay close to dotty instead of standing on it too

[warped adder]

Yeah this week's EDD stage 2 is interesting

I'm kinda used to blowing through EDDs with randoms but this shit requires teamwork and strategy

[obtuse cargo]

anybody on xbox wanna run my first deep dive with me? Im scout main with damage spec m1000

[floral otter]

I just ran a deep dive and realized a massive issue.

If you save Doretta in stage 2 her head won't be there in stage 3

nor will she appear on the end screen once you are done

[obtuse cargo]

sadge

[random rampart]

Sadly the pod needed fuel

[random path]

[old widget]

Literally unplayable. 😔

[abstract geyser]

😕

[modern geode]

ayo who in the EU is ready for a deep dive? Germany specifically

[jolly hazel]

try lfg channels

#lfg-steam

[modern geode]

ight

ty

[viscid oak]

if you’re on here the chap I just played with for EDD gg well played

Neuro toxic build for the gunner worked well those still trying

My build which I use for most EDD if it helps anyone
Auto Canon - 32322 neurotoxin OC
BRT - 32222 electo minelets OC
Axe - 11
Shield - 223
Zipline- 211
Incendiary grenade
Armour - 1211
Perks: resupplier, veteran depositor,born ready, dash, first aid

I like to play crowd control …let’s the other classes focus on target damage ..,this build you’ll slow anything and everything to a crawl so team can manoeuvre

[chrome whale]

was the location of the egg changed in the second step? edd

[viscid oak]

ours didn’t proc with doretta

[chrome whale]

same

now it's at the refueling

[viscid oak]

we had to get it at the mid point allowed up to get the nitra first quick although we did get a detonator when we got the egg

[viscid oak]

yeah

I suspect it wasn’t supposed to in the way double proc a wave is a bit nuts

[chrome whale]

sure i think place was changing

[viscid oak]

oh so for some it’s still getting hit on way through?

[chrome whale]

the last time the egg was not activated

[wicked echo]

jeez, my 5th attempt at the EDD, all failed at the 2nd stage

[vernal willow]

I'm still a bit green, but beat it, and the good teams that were successful seemed to know how to guard flanks really well on the 2nd stage and somewhat leading up to it. Especially for lethal enemies. Without it, you can get by sometimes getting snuck up on from the back, or at least it's not insta death. This one no.

Basically we kept the bugs off each other really well.

Turrets facing away from the cave entrance helps a lot too for easy signalling of approaching bugs from behind.

Sure, you can accomplish both somewhat, angled towards dotty, but not towards the cave entrance