deep-dive-discussion

[gaunt valve]

solo scout ezpz not even close didn't sweat at all wasn't nervous

[wise nebula]

Well yeah, 100 xp that does nothing is pointless.

[west merlin]

Good point, giving a weapon or crate drop might've helped.
I sometimes did accept autobalance anyway if I was playing with my friends

Btw I got BET-Cs on both the first and third stages of the DD.
The first one was really useful, the second one sadly we only got to near the end.

Also we got exactly 1 bulk each on the first and second stages.

The 2nd stage one came over the cliff when we were 90% done with the Black Box and was really terrifying.
All of us stepped out for a moment before I remembered and stepped back in, waiting a second and then shielded but for a few seconds it was just me at like 99%, then another guy ducked into my shield.
My shield ended and I was like "don't shoot the bulk don't shoot the bulk!" and it died the instant we finished (I guess my friend waited to shoot until after we did it actually?) killing 3/4 of us

[granite hearth]

How hard are these supposed to be my team got whooped in the second stage

[burnt sandal]

normal or elite ?

[hybrid oar]

Are Deep Dives good for levelling lower tier characters, or should I go as a promoted one?

[burnt sandal]

you can't use unpromoted characters in deep dives
and it's a terrible way to level up

[olive vigil]

You only earn the XP of 1 mission and not 3 as well

[olive vigil]

Id say EDD,I also get smashed on the no oxygen level

[polar jungle]

It was easier with a 3 man team over a 4 for me

if you're all good it's better than the 4th dragging it down

I'm a bronze 1 for reference but being a scout has the least drag being the weakest

I had to solo a detonator by myself when the 4th guy was still in and everyone else was down though

[olive vigil]

In fairness I've only tried it twice but being a gunner is prob the worst class for a DD

[polar jungle]

and I went down during that but had iron will on, revived someone who then revived me and then died again

[polar jungle]

Our gunner was great. I only downed him once, by accident! (He jumped in front of a charged M1k shot on a trijaw)

his build focused on the weaker glyphids while the driller ran frost and tore through pretty much everything

The DD was pretty decent but this EDD wrecked me

[olive vigil]

PC seems to have better players, a lot still learning on playstation

[polar jungle]

Controller is probably much harder as well

less precise

I wouldn't want to aim an m1 on a moving target with a controller

[olive vigil]

im bronze 3 atm, once i get him to gold ill work on the othher classes

[burnt sandal]

EDD are 4.5/5/5.5 in difficulty

[olive vigil]

yes

[polar jungle]

I'm slowing also getting my driller to bronze 1

[polar jungle]

It was funny because the 5.5 level was a breath of fresh air to the 5 this time around

[burnt sandal]

also nah, all classes are great on DD

[burnt sandal]

usually is

stage 2 is always the killer

[polar jungle]

We only had like 4 downs on stage 3 and one accidental use of an iron will

[olive vigil]

stage 2 kills us if someone dies in the ravine and cant get back in time before hypoxia

[left sleet]

played edd and it was quite fun this week

my first edd was last week's and that was a nightmare

[polar jungle]

we decided that sticking together was the best strat

I should've friended the people I ran with and I don't know if I can see their info again

[left sleet]

is stage 2 always awful?

[polar jungle]

😭

[polar jungle]

that's what Ser Pounce said

[left sleet]

stage 3 always feels like a breeze

[polar jungle]

certainly did this time

[left sleet]

last week's edd, we were trying hard to conserve nitra and we did weird stuff like digging a trench for the hackpods

and we made it out after everyone exhausted their IW and one guy got in last second lol

this week was not nearly as bad

our 4th dropped out in map 2 (I guess he thought we lost) and our scout made it to the pod :)

[polar jungle]

I had like 5 tries, the last 3 with with 2 consistent people and we'd get other randoms who'd leave when we lost

[burnt sandal]

it usually is, because you have tons of nitra lol

[left sleet]

I got it on my first try this time so I'm happy

we didn't have any nitra left on stage 3 lol

[polar jungle]

our last try we started with 4, but our engie abandoned after I revived him after having to kill a detonator solo as scout in the area where the last minimule was

[left sleet]

we had enough for 1 drop, and I had to drop it at spawn because we had no ammo

[polar jungle]

we had like 300

we made a ton of drops

[left sleet]

I think we were only able to make 3 drops on stage 3

and then a dreadnought appeared- is that supposed to happen?

[polar jungle]

random chance

We nearly got wiped to the Detonator because it was a surpriseto us, it hadn't spawned their previously and we had like no ammo

if we had fucked up I don't think we would've gotten that EDD today, I think the others would've quit

[left sleet]

detonators are always fun haha

[polar jungle]

it was in the final area of the 1st stage, the really small vertical section

luckily it was mostly by itself so I could zip around as scout, but it did sneak on me once when I forget the terrain because it had destroyed some of it

I Iron willed, revived the gunner, who revived me.

then the gunner died because he couldn't get out and I had to kill the detonator alone 😭

[left sleet]

1st stage was surprisingly easy

I don't even remember what it was lmao

got lucky I guess

[polar jungle]

it was really easy up until then, but because I had failed the 2nd mission so many times I've memorized it

[left sleet]

I think the only awful parts were the mactera spawns

[polar jungle]

I died a lot as scout on the second mission, even zipping aroudn it felt like there were alsways grunts on me

[left sleet]

they were rough :x

[polar jungle]

I run the M1k so outside of one time on the 2nd missionwhen like 30 spawned and knocked out my team before me I usually take care of them easily

[left sleet]

ah

scout is tough

I had a tough time with ammo this EDD

[polar jungle]

I usually don't run iron will, I tihnk I'll put it back to the awareness one until next EDD

[left sleet]

then I looked at the end stats and I took half as many resupplies as the team :x

[polar jungle]

??? this had the most nitra I've ever seen

we had like 8 resupplies on the 2nd stage alone lmao

[left sleet]

can't help it if everyone else is taking my portion lmao

[polar jungle]

that's a bit cringe

I didn't worry about taking someone else's portion after a while because there were 3 of us and a ton of pods, on mission 2 just laying at the different pumps

[left sleet]

I try to conserve before using the resupply

[polar jungle]

on the 3rd one we just took what we needed and the driller or the gunner took the 4th

unless I'm overusing my Zhukov's then I rarely have ammo trouble as scout

[left sleet]

I didn't drop a single pod- they were randomly dropped during the map without checking with the team so it was chaotic as well

ah I remember map 1 now- we almost got wiped out when someone died at the bottom of a really long vertical drop

I followed my scout and didn't realize the drop was long and died lmao

tried to use the ng platform and it didn't save me

might've been a cave crawler or grabber around as well, but after that, it was OK

I think most of us were pretty green- one guy was a level 15

what do you run instead of iron will? I can't imagine not running it anymore

[olive tulip]

Dash/Steeve

Latter is mostly brought if you get regenerative bugs for a stage

[left sleet]

why is steve good for regen bugs?

[random rampart]

Because it also keeps regenning

[left sleet]

ohh so steve lasts forever hm

[random rampart]

Depends on how much it gets swarmed lol

[left sleet]

in my experience, steve is a little too fond of supply drops :(

I even try moving away from them

[random rampart]

It likes them :)

[olive tulip]

Attaching weapons to Steeve when?

[random rampart]

*BET-C flashbacks*

[left sleet]

can't they replace max perk steve with a laser attached to his head

https://tenor.com/view/laserbeams-yourefired-freakinglaserbeams-drevil-austin-gif-8410743

laser only does 1 dmg

[brisk pagoda]

i think id rather they un nerfed him

[left sleet]

was he stronger before?

[brisk pagoda]

slasher cant stun lock anymore

and i think they also made him die faster but im not sure

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[digital phoenix]

what time does the deep dive switch?

on thursdays? it's thursdays right?

[scarlet jewel]

In an hour i believe

And it is on thursday

[digital phoenix]

ty ty

[wraith shard]

Yes He dies faster

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[sly kettle]

Now, if it only could speak English.

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Bad Badland
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Swarmageddon
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Twins) + 📡 1 Black Box | Volatile Guts
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Mactera Plague

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Last Grin
Stage 1: 225 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | Exploder Infestation
Stage 2: Protect the Drilldozer + 150 Morkite | No Mutators!
Stage 3: 7 Aquarq + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs

[wraith shard]

Bad Badland

[fading gorge]

Naughty Badland

[broken shore]

EDD 2nd : protect drilldozer + 150 morkite / no mutators

[crimson tinsel]

[ebon anchor]

Low Oxygen Elimination season is over

now is Morkite season

[crimson tinsel]

Don’t jinx it

[marble veldt]

Ooohhh yeaaaaah, morkite again

[true saffron]

EDD stage 3: 7 aquarqs, 2 eggs, regenerative bugs

[jolly hazel]

doesn't look too bad

[outer beacon]

Exploder Infestation and Black Box sounds like a painful combo but I'll see.

[crimson tinsel]

At least it’s not on Magma Core

[ebon anchor]

Would you guys consider it easier to duo or 4p edd

Just hearing some opinions

[trail hound]

solo is easiest

[undone harbor]

DD 2nd: 2 dreads (hiveguard + twins) and black box / volatile guts
3rd: 6 eggs and 2 mules / mactera plague

[trail hound]

then 4

then 2 then 3 imo

[ebon anchor]

Cos swarm size stays the same as 2p

[trail hound]

3 hardest

[ebon anchor]

Since 2nd player replace bosco

Ah

[trail hound]

no im p sure 2 player has larger swarms

[crimson tinsel]

DD getting the more spicy missions again

[ebon anchor]

I can't send pictures but 2p is the same

0.85 / 0.85 / 1.25 / 1.50

[lunar helm]

EDD seems doable

[crimson tinsel]

Will have to see the cave layouts

[wraith shard]

From my experience 2 players is the easiest, 3 the hardest. 4 only if everyone can pull their own weight, which I feel is harder to find.

[marble veldt]

I SAID I WAS SORRY

😭

[olive tulip]

Wow

They really want us to bring Steeve for EDDs

Not that I'm complaining

[wanton silo]

Been having a blast on magma core dd idk what's wrong about the zone tbh

[fossil lagoon]

lost connection during end of stage 1 EDD, then it says I cannot late join EDD when i tried to join back. gg nice one DRG

[runic bane]

Wow. That sucks. What if someone tried to invite you? That wouldn't work?

[waxen terrace]

you cannot invite people while youre already in a DD/EDD

[runic bane]

Good to know.

[jolly hazel]

tremors interfering with kiting due to slow, plus every explosion in the game creating burning ground

not to mention the off chance a crevice appears directly under you

PLUS red exploder plants (i think)

plus the maggots explode

and the ceiling nitra because of the weird ass cave ceilings in magma core

and the fire geysers

and the fire holes

[dark vector]

all those reasons that dash is op

[jolly hazel]

yeah you have to plan out fights a bit more beforehand

and also constantly revive teammates who did not bring dash

[wraith shard]

how hard is the EDD this week?

[topaz blaze]

not bad at all actually. First stage is free

I actually did it with 3 new players who just got their first promo. We were in a discord call so we had that advantage but we were able to finish it

[thorn moss]

second stage sounds like a bitch

[topaz blaze]

the seed is grunt heavy so good movement mostly solves it

[crimson tinsel]

NTP

[topaz blaze]

some trijaws but that's about it

[thorn moss]

tri jaws are scary as hell if they manage to connect

[topaz blaze]

yes esp on h5/h5.5

[wraith shard]

oh okay so its not too rough?

as long as its not another mid november

[topaz blaze]

easiest one in a minute

[wraith shard]

we should be okay

[crimson tinsel]

Haven’t done it yet but the modifiers are very tame

[earnest orbit]

isn't that true for most enemies 😄 If they hit you it's scary? 😄

[thorn moss]

they go from mild annoyances in haz 3 to absolute priority target on haz 4 and 5

[earnest orbit]

but yeah a tri jaw swarm from the back is deadly

[topaz blaze]

yes but projectile enemies are exponentially more dangerous on high haz

[crimson tinsel]

I had one spawn inside of me last week

[topaz blaze]

because projectile speed increase

[thorn moss]

tri jaws in high haz hit like a truck

[jolly hazel]

also

harder to dodge tri jaws if you are multi tasking

its easy if there's just one

[earnest orbit]

but I do agree, tri jaws are my No 1 source of dirt munching

[jolly hazel]

but if there's multiple they cover all your angles pretty well

[topaz blaze]

i wish brundle had seed priority over trijaw you barely see them

[jolly hazel]

trijaws die much faster at least

[wanton silo]

It's not hard to do this, being ready to kite even when you're slowed is not that complicated of a task, exploders are also easily avoidable

[jolly hazel]

yeah its not hard, its just something you don't have to do in other biomes

which is why the biome can be a nuisance

also kiting with dash down either because of rng earthquake or even worse earthquake with no dash and a slasher up your ass is frustrating if you play a closer ranged class like shotgun engie

[earnest orbit]

also if you are waiting for shield recharge, stepping on burning ground is annoying

[wanton silo]

I main shottie engi and that was never a problem for me, turrets are a wonderful thing

[jolly hazel]

exploder plants aren't too bad but its just time wasted and now you have the floor is lava fun minigame to play

[earnest orbit]

by waiting I mean of course running around in circles, yelling obscenities

[jolly hazel]

damn turrets auto mulch every slasher? impressive

do you play haz 5

[wanton silo]

Me?

Ye

EDD's too

Doing it rn

[jolly hazel]

things don't always go to plan and magma core just makes it more annoying

[tidal spruce]

exploder infestation black box you say? did you mean: chaos?

[wanton silo]

Nothing a breach cutter can't fix

Tbf i main engi and its job is pretty much planning ahead of time

[vocal saddle]

did anyone else find second stage sketch

lost 2 parts of doretta 😂

[jolly hazel]

competent ac gunner should deal with exploders well

[wanton silo]

Setting up repellant additive platforms, turrets and trip mines things i forgot the name of

[jolly hazel]

depends on special rng

if u get a bunch of bulks its a lot tougher/menaces

yeah its just proxy mines

[vocal saddle]

Didn't get a single bulk

now I guess we wait for next week😐

[trail hound]

yknow swarms in drg truly are just

massive

especially in haz 5 swarms when your team isnt pulling the weight

or in an overrun scenario

really when a swarm isnt immediately culled

you can see its truly horrendous sizes, and while we're safe behind a screen imagine the balls on a dwarf going toe to toe with such an insurmountable force

[obtuse pasture]

Well solo EDD attempt 1 failed.. Gunner.. Stage2: Doretta mission got TOTALLY out of control. Zero deaths.. but lost dotty to just the most ludicrous swarm composition i have seen in a while

[open ledge]

On m’y second elite deep dive from last week the last stage the swarm got to us, after holding on using iron will with one or two guys up at a time after enough time we crumbled, then did it again and smoke the swarm

[obtuse pasture]

Man I LOATHE escort in EDD.. really ruins the solo vibe something horrible

even defending a point is better

[vocal saddle]

Yea nah theres no way I could solo this.

[obtuse pasture]

Stage 1 of the EDD and most of stage 2 (until i got doretta rekt) was actually a cakewalk.. super easy cave layout for azure weald ,,, then I got straight up RNGed into the floor.. I think the ratio of praetorians to grunts was about 1:1 at the end.. that and 2-3 menaces pounding dorretta

[polar jungle]

I run medic and the one that tells me I'm about to get grabbed

[vocal saddle]

bruh i was having an argument with a greybeard about iron will saying its essential. Literally would have lost the EDD without it haha

[obtuse pasture]

probably do my usual and re-run it solo scout.. for some reason 90% of my solo attempts after a fail are a win with my scout build

[vocal saddle]

It was just so unpredictable

swarm at the worst time

[jolly hazel]

dash/field medic on everyone except gunner

gunner is dash/iron will

[vocal saddle]

driller got grabbed so no cryo on anything

[polar jungle]

dash on scout 🤪

[jolly hazel]

yeah?

[vocal saddle]

I always forget to use field medic

[jolly hazel]

I never get caught

[vocal saddle]

but it does have a passive though right like quicker rez right?\

[obtuse pasture]

dash/iron wil on driller is good. most of the time you can vamp back up to life. Personally as a gunner is spend at least half most missions reviving people so field medic+dash is my gunner usual and let one the other teamates run IW

[jolly hazel]

yes

[polar jungle]

it has a passive quicker res and enemies run from res site

[jolly hazel]

i see it as I dont need the time because of shield

covering at least one res

and if there's two

then he should he helping

[polar jungle]

my whole team ran IW yesterday's EDD

[jolly hazel]

I run shield duration/cooldown

[vocal saddle]

I just spend my time running away as gunner haha

[jolly hazel]

gunner is the medic class

[vocal saddle]

i run out of ammo and run in circles

then shield on ammo drop

[obtuse pasture]

More about maximising shield up time.. if i can res him faster we have more time to use the remaining shield to get stuff done

nothing worse than using a whole shield duration just to res someone and maybe pick off 1 or 2 things.

[vocal saddle]

Im just thinking it would be better to res and then put shield down so they dont instantly get destroyed

[jolly hazel]

I just toss a nade while rezzing

or two

or neurotoxin payload round

[vocal saddle]

Like we can clear a path or something together

[jolly hazel]

so dmg is bring dealt

[obtuse pasture]

most people run the mod on armour for 6 seconds of invuln.. if you are not .. you should

[jolly hazel]

IW on gunner guarantees two revives

because I rez someome

I shield before I die

and they rez me

[vocal saddle]

doesnt it get boosted to 9 with the mod?

6 is normal isnt it

[obtuse pasture]

3 is normal IIRC

[jolly hazel]

its 3

[vocal saddle]

oh right

3 is enough bruh

fuck it

haha

[jolly hazel]

its 3 more seconds of killing

[obtuse pasture]

C4/fatboy on the spot whatever

[vocal saddle]

my first instinct when im rezed is just to bolt. Like im not fighting anything im looking to run away from this shit

[jolly hazel]

bad instinct

[vocal saddle]

haha

best gunner

[jolly hazel]

register your surroundings while you are down

[obtuse pasture]

as gooner if often just cluster on myself

[jolly hazel]

and have a plan

when u get rezzed

[vocal saddle]

My plan is to run

[jolly hazel]

well u have 3-6 seconds of invuln where u dont have to run

[obtuse pasture]

which is why berserker can be amazing + vamp

[jolly hazel]

^

I slept on that for a while

free revive lol

but dash is too useful

[vocal saddle]

Dash is pretty good

[obtuse pasture]

you run this on SCOUT!

[vocal saddle]

i dont use it anymore though I feel like its "cheating"

[obtuse pasture]

Berserker + IW on scout.. muhaha..

[vocal saddle]

then again im using IW

I think i just use IW and field medic cause i think its more "team" orientated

whereas dash is "selfish"

#deep-dive-speedrunning message

how do you EDD in 15minutes wtf

[jolly hazel]

its just habit at this point

I feel like as soon as I change ill get into a dumb spot with scout and die because I thought I had dash lol

[obtuse pasture]

dont even need to look.. I am guessing this is CA and Amel :p

[vocal saddle]

who is that

[jolly hazel]

kill things

[vocal saddle]

EDD is definitely easiest in duos

but thats no fun

[jolly hazel]

last week was 2 morkite and 1 egg

so its just

[vocal saddle]

haha

[jolly hazel]

pull the eggs and run like hell

[vocal saddle]

true

[obtuse pasture]

if you look back through the EDD history those 2 blitz the EDD as driller+scout usually doing some crazy things.. seen a whole EDD in just over 11min (Pinkuma streams on twitch)

[vocal saddle]

damn

[jolly hazel]

fastest i did was 31 minutes on a similar edd

no voice comms

not even really much talking

just 4 really good players lol

[vocal saddle]

that is ridiculously fast

i dont think ive done the regular dd that fast

[feral atlas]

IW is never essential, if you are good enough

that second part being the more important qualifier

[vocal saddle]

Yeap clearly not

[wanton silo]

Dying shouldn't be granted

[vocal saddle]

I play with randoms I just assume everyone isn’t good enough

Seems to hold true

[wanton silo]

As in you use it to save your teammates or your randoms use it?

[icy socket]

So wait two people elite dive is easier than 4?

[feral atlas]

enemy stats and spawn rate scale with player count

[icy socket]

Sure but such that it’s easier with two? Is it exponential?

[feral atlas]

depends on how good or shit the additional players are

[wanton silo]

That's up to players, not the spawn rate or health of enemies

[outer beacon]

Made it through with my pal, first try, this time I went Thunderhead gunner.

That last stage is just abject cruelty.

[ebon anchor]

really really easy DD/EDD week I feel

very comfortable

[wanton silo]

Solo third stage on edd is really easy

Can speedrun it before first swarm if no random egg swarm

[ebon anchor]

I think this EDD is really the best one to bring greenbeards on

out of the current weeks I mean

no big mutators

[wanton silo]

Second stage is the hardest imo

Still not that challenging

[ebon anchor]

ye escort haz 5 can be challenging

xd

especially those rocks

come down like sonic

[outer beacon]

I just hate Point Extraction missions in general, stay for just a little too long and you just have wave after wave, and as someone who likes to generally take things a little slower, it's exhausting.

[wanton silo]

Nah rocks are not an issue

Specials are

[outer beacon]

We were just finishing up one wave, and then we had another swarm upon us.

[wanton silo]

They can overwhelm you while taking out crystals and rocks

I had an overlapping swarm on third stage

[tall meadow]

You don't want to stay long on 3rd stage

get in

[wanton silo]

So that was fun

[tall meadow]

get aquards and get out

[ebon anchor]

didn't bother with nitra on third stage cos had so much by then

[outer beacon]

Thing is, I was Gunner and my friend was Scout, and bringing everything back with the way the minehead spawned for us was a tough bet. But at least we made it.

[ebon anchor]

just rushed the aquarq and egg and left

[outer beacon]

It's been three weeks now doing EDDs and I still haven't gotten Fat Boy, it's all just OCs for the Zhukov and other weapons I don't use.

[ebon anchor]

I mean

I haven't gotten fatboy after 300 hours

😭

[outer beacon]

Let me be a war criminal, damnit.

[random rampart]

No

[wanton silo]

Use breach cutter instead

Ez

[outer beacon]

But I don't want Breach Cutter, I want to leave radioactive waste behind me.

[random rampart]

Then you are forgiven. You shall be a war criminal

[shadow shoal]

Petition for radioactive breach cutter overclock

[wanton silo]

Everytime it hits an enemy it explodes in radiation and it scales the larger the bug

[hard topaz]

For the cryo cannon, does Fragile apply to snowball?

[weak carbon]

nuke gatling gun when

[crimson tinsel]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1825647957146153219/F01529BAB4C72F05FCA5768A60DCB3D90ADA8A5F/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[short charm]

I mean, who needs a full team anyway? https://i.imgur.com/2TPAU8h.jpg

Pretty easy EDD this time around. M1000 + Elec Focus Shots with blowthrough and fear. Zhukovs + Gas Recycling with blowthrough and elec rounds. IFG. For this mission, that combo could slap bugs around all day.

[gaunt valve]

imagine though that would be so cool

green laser beams of death

[vagrant oasis]

ah yes, the normal deep dive has the best name, Bad Badland

[gaunt valve]

not the bad badland

[brisk pagoda]

do you know if it was in any patch notes?

[wraith shard]

I don't i just noticed when playing

[plush plover]

easy deep dives today?

elite looks easy enough

[brisk pagoda]

I suppose we'll never know for sure, I searched the patch notes channel and didn't find any mention of a nerf to his survivability besides when they first made it so he can get aggro

[pine sapphire]

Wish they had weighted system but where as you got three zhukov less likely to get fourth and more likely to get weapon with zero OC

[weak ember]

Sorry just noticed

[feral atlas]

https://i.imgur.com/ANmxYOB.png

It's done. Pretty normal EDD, nothing special.

[north urchin]

GG to you 🙂 its quite tough for me this time round my team sucks

[feral atlas]

ngl, it's not uncommon to see stupidly stacked pub teams on Thurs

this was a pub team; hilariously, the scout was the host

probably had a laugh when he saw 3 legendary dwarfs join randomly one after another

the gunner only got downed due to needing to go afk to bake some beans in the middle of the omerran fight

[random rampart]

THAT MF EATING 🅱️EANS

[feral atlas]

other than that and the driller getting leeched once, we flexed on the bugs

[thorn tiger]

second mission of EDD is cursed

all I have to say, lol

[feral atlas]

Did your gunner eat enough beans?

[solar schooner]

So EDD is supposed to be the hardest challenge in the game yet casuals are farming it every week? The endgame is so disappointing in this game

[worn bramble]

it depends

Sometimes it's easier like the last few weeks or it can be hell

[jolly hazel]

if you want challenge install haz 6 or something

I wouldnt say casuals, the game has been out for a while and people are good at it

I've also had individual haz 5 missions be at least twice as hard as some weeks edd

[finite field]

Two-cycled a hiveguard

Haz 2 with critical weakness but still super fun

[warm tartan]

check pinned message

[jolly hazel]

check the pinned messages

[lime heron]

Just cuz experienced players can do it consistently doesn't mean its not hard or its disappointing

[warm tartan]

Anyone else enccounter bugs on the second mission of EDD?

[jolly hazel]

yeah there's a lot of them

[feral atlas]

It is disappoint to an extent. The two actually difficult mutators got nerfed cus too many people complained about them when they hit EDDs.

[plush plover]

exploder infest?

[feral atlas]

Current shield disruption heavily decreases the amount of damage bugs deal to you. OG shield disrupt was a straight up no shield, no modifiers. Got changed after the first EDD had a shield disrupt stage 3 and too many people cried.

[plush plover]

I kinda see why for shield disrupt though

[feral atlas]

Same happened to lethal enemies.

EDDs basically casualized the only two challenging modifiers.

[plush plover]

would you say that shield disruption is annoying on stages of an edd like hollow bourgh

if it even appears

[feral atlas]

No? But that's me.

EDD's problem is that you lock gameplay items behind a system that forces people to play shit they don't like to get said items.

If a normal player doesn't like shield disrupt, they just don't play it.

If a shit player can't handle Haz5, normally, they just don't play it.

But now, you gotta deal with both if you want your cores.

[lime heron]

Shield disruption didn't have anything to compensate for the lack of shields back then? Damn. What was the other modifier that got nerfed?

[feral atlas]

Lethal Enemies used to triple all damage including projectile damage.

Now it only doubles melee damage.

Naturally, this happened right after the first EDD with the modifier

[lime heron]

Sheesh I thought it has always been double

[feral atlas]

"Oh no, I can't tank and need to dodge now, this is a travesty"

[jolly hazel]

that sounds like incentive to just get better

[feral atlas]

Not really.

In practice, all it really did was make people much more selective for teammates, and lobby hop.

Gold 3 was the promotion cap when EDDs started.

Want to guess how fast the lobby titles started putting requirements?

[jolly hazel]

sounds like shitters wanting to get carried

[feral atlas]

those shitters were a majority of the pubbers

[jolly hazel]

i meant more that if they want the cores, then they get good enough to do the edd

[feral atlas]

people are lazy

[jolly hazel]

and not complain

true

3x mactera/spitter damage seems like a fucking pain in the ass though

[feral atlas]

and, well, GSG listened to the will of the people

[jolly hazel]

also I thought shield disrupt just gave u more hp

I didnt know it neefed enemy dmg

[feral atlas]

Shields are permanently disabled by an electric field which encompases the entire map. To compensate, Dwarves take 30% less damage from enemy attacks and terrain hazards (such as Electrocrystals). Friendly fire damage and self damage is not affected by this damage reduction.

Due to the aforementioned damage reduction, Red Sugar is effectively 30% more potent during Shield Disruption missions.

from the wiki

[jolly hazel]

ah so basically the same mechanic

I think lethal enemies can be tweaked up a little

but yeah people already complain about only getting 9 cores a week so they'd probably flip shit if it suddenly became inaccessible to them

[solar schooner]

I play the game for like 2 weeks, haz 5 is too easy, rewards are shit compared to lower hazs, I EDD first try right after promoting, even my super casual girlfriend managed to do it with me the next week (yesterday)

So to me it's very disappointing

Collecting ocs,mats,promoting etc what's the point if all of the content difficulty is trivial

[jolly hazel]

to enjoy the game?

[feral atlas]

The game should not gatekeep the items behind a skill barrier. This isn't an MMO.

[jolly hazel]

nothings really gatekept

all rng

[feral atlas]

the gate is more of a time gate to get what you want

[solar schooner]

It's not about items, give players the challenge, to those who want it

[jolly hazel]

install hazard 6 mod

install double enemy mod

you have options

[feral atlas]

EDDs are a flawwed game mode, few people would actually play it without cores involved.

[jolly hazel]

flawed how

[feral atlas]

They take too long and kick you to the beginning if you fail.

So, no exploration.

[jolly hazel]

I dont know how you can expand on the core gameplay for something like that

explore for the nitra

[feral atlas]

If you keep failing at stage 3, you'll basically have memorized 1 and 2

Also, the length makes bad teammates really insufferable

[jolly hazel]

true

[feral atlas]

supposed that I find out in stage 1 that my teammates are idiots

now I gotta suffer for 2 more stages

assume we get that far

[jolly hazel]

I guess its so there's some kind of thing to brag about? compare yourselves to others cuz its the same seed?

[feral atlas]

and if I don't completely win, I gotta do it again

[jolly hazel]

would you rather have like

haz 6-7 single missions?

that are fixed?

I think its a tough call either way

[feral atlas]

yes, or have EDDs be cosmetic only, and have an EDD version of the DD

currently I"m more annoyed with the DD than the EDD

DD is sleep inducing

who needs ambien when you have this?

I stopped playing DD when I was solo'ing one, and I watched my Steeve 1 on 1 a dread and win

[jolly hazel]

wouldn't that run into the same flaws as before with being stuck with the same shitters

[solar schooner]

Fuck yes, give us haz 6 and 7

[jolly hazel]

its already available

[solar schooner]

Is it?

[jolly hazel]

no ive just been fucking with you

[solar schooner]

Mhm

Funny

[jolly hazel]

there's a bunch of difficulty mods on mod.io

[feral atlas]

There's no real solution now. We're stuck with this system because GSG is nervous that if we change it, the people that already got their stuff the hard way will complain.

[jolly hazel]

yeah

hope for something cool in season 2 I guess

there's a bunch of unused terminals still

in the space rig

[solar schooner]

Jesus, mods are not supported by gsg, you tell me, instal triple enemy, with one shotting enemies, and you have 5 bullets, here you go that's your challenge

[jolly hazel]

uh

isnt that what you want

[solar schooner]

Nope

[jolly hazel]

there's your challenge

[feral atlas]

I'm on record saying that I'm okay with just giving everybody all OCs, or having them in their own crates, and letting people play EDD only for fun, or let people stack 3+ multipliers on it for more gold and xp. But people don't want to think that all their suffering isn't going to be shared by the people coming after them.

[jolly hazel]

thats quite sour grapes

I guess they want player retention

so they drip feed

[feral atlas]

People are like that. I don't care if a fresh install gets all OCs for free.

[jolly hazel]

i think

its better to have newbies get used to non-oc weapons first

[feral atlas]

But people feel like it invalidates their effort if the fresh installs don't suffer like they did.

[jolly hazel]

imo

gate them till promo 1?

just have the forge have EVERY weapon oc

just need the minerals

would be interesting

[solar schooner]

Kegamine so the mods you're talking about, they reward you for your efforts?

Because i never looked into that

[feral atlas]

I would like to speculate, but again, we're stuck with it now.

[jolly hazel]

yeah u get to brag about how you are good enough for hazard 6 instead of bragging about how good you are at haz 5

[solar schooner]

I see

Doesn't seem worth it

[finite field]

Approved difficulty mods would be a good idea for you

Or just fuck around in sandbox if the base game bothers you so much

Starship troopers I can recommend personally

[jolly hazel]

starship troopers is great

[feral atlas]

doesn't that halve bug health?

[jolly hazel]

favors are though lol

i think it lowers bug health to 1 haz lower

[finite field]

I don't think so

[jolly hazel]

but doubles spawn count

[finite field]

Haz 4 bugs on haz 5

With like triple spawn count

Yea

[jolly hazel]

u get to larp as rico

which is pog

[finite field]

It's got a ton of versions tho from what I can tell

[feral atlas]

eh, I played it, didn't like it; it's fine but the problem is that it really makes AoE too powerful

[finite field]

So there's something for everyone

[solar schooner]

Scout automatically useless

[feral atlas]

People would just double up on Autocannons

[jolly hazel]

its a cinematic experience

:^)

[solar schooner]

That's the problem with such primitive difficulty mods

[finite field]

I had fun with my 400-round neurotoxin AC

[feral atlas]

I agree. Just isn't fun for scout, or anybody that wants to play with single target.

[finite field]

10 rounds a second

[jolly hazel]

fuck single target

I want to see bugs burn

[solar schooner]

Instal burning bugs mod then

[jolly hazel]

damn guess u have to become a coder then

[finite field]

Apply for a job at GSG

[jolly hazel]

make ur own difficulty mod that doesnt just tweak numbers

[finite field]

)))

[feral atlas]

The real way to make scout's life hell, is to program all swarmers and jellies to only target them.

[jolly hazel]

good

thats what they get

for not putting up flares every 90.5 seconds

[solar schooner]

"you don't like the mods! become a gsg employee and impact the game development if you want changes!"

[jolly hazel]

yeah

basically

[finite field]

Yeah

[solar schooner]

:D

[jolly hazel]

if you don't like how the game functions

[solar schooner]

Okay thank you for advice

[jolly hazel]

thats all you have available to you

[solar schooner]

Really?

[finite field]

Could always make your own mods I guess

[jolly hazel]

start a petition

that gets change done

[finite field]

I'm just amused by the argument you're making here tbh

[solar schooner]

Yeah thank you for noticing how ridiculous his argument is

[jolly hazel]

[finite field]

"game too easy"
"make it harder"
"no"

[jolly hazel]

you realize hes talking about you?

[solar schooner]

No I don't, clever guy

[crimson tinsel]

Crimge

[jolly hazel]

oh ya forgot to ask

[jolly hazel]

numbers seem high here for kill count, more bugs than usualy or just cuz of escort

[feral atlas]

gunner went afk for a bit to make sure his beans didn't burn

so, i probably took some of his eliminations

if it's overall kill count, there were a ton of swarmers

[crimson tinsel]

My Engie also had about 850. Lots of little guys.

[jolly hazel]

ah that figures

[fallow niche]

oh god stage 2 escort. at least there's no elite threat or whatever this time

[fierce bobcat]

As a cryo driller with subata I always dread the stage 2

[little glacier]

If that first mission doesn't make you fall in love with the gunner 2nd gun nothing does.

[oblique pewter]

Alright, who let in the Dark Souls player?

But jokes aside, I think the game is pretty fine for what it is in my opinion for Difficulty.

And if you want difficulty and don't wanna use mods then I don't really know what to tell you like everyone except neuter the way you play for excitement or something.

[jolly hazel]

I love sticky flames on escort missions

might try that instead of carry gunner lol

[granite hearth]

How hard is the elite deep dive

[atomic prawn]

depends on how experienced you are

[strong dust]

Are Deep Dives on a fixed map or are they procedurally generated?

Because that Hiveguard fight was in an awful spot

[old bane]

deep dives are procedurally generated per week but the same layout for their time active

[strong dust]

So then everyone fought that Hiveguard in the same spot?

[fallow niche]

i thought it was pretty comfy as solo gunner, but most EDDs are

it's probably a little tight on nitra if you're running with a group, but you can bring a couple resupplies to the stage 2 escort if you're thrifty so i'd expect it's manageable

[random path]

i havent played in a couple months and it was fairly easy i would say

there have definitely been much harder ones before

[viscid oak]

team were doing well until someone dropped out beginning of stage 2 ..got to hearthstone no probs …3 left rocks started raining in at same time huge wave …one went down playing catch up then …game over to much flak coming in

oh well try again tomoz

do you find sometimes the button to revive people isnt always active to press when standing over them? had that happen too which didn’t help in the middle of it all

[uneven mountain]

This week's was pretty easy, as long as no one dies in a bad place and at a bad time. Plenty of Nitra for a full group; my successful run went into stage 2 with 240, and into stage 3 with 290.

[hoary cove]

the cave gen is the same. The swarms are not (although the spawn pool is the same i think). It sounds like u got a random dread wave, unless ur talking about the dd

[strong dust]

I am talking about the DD. Lava all around the egg, weird elevation changes.. and of course it’s a hiveguard so every shot exposes more hot ground

[hoary cove]

then ye, it’s in a fixed spot. Although i have noticed the locations of some things change depending on the number of players sometimes

including dread eggs

[strong dust]

I feel like I read about people getting a detonator during the black box in stage two. Happened to me too.

[strong dust]

Interesting.

[hoary cove]

once something is in the spawn pool for a level. You’ll probably see it at least once

the game basically chooses 3 from ‘disrupter’ type enemies to appear in a mission. It includes things like menaces, wardens, bulks, and shellbacks

[jolly hazel]

I dont think shellbacks are in the calc

but I could be wrong

[fallow niche]

i'm fairly sure they are, though they also don't appear in all biomes

[jolly hazel]

I'm always on edge until I see that third special

that there could be a bulk

[tranquil apex]

if i die stage 3 is it really worth playing through it again?

last core is just the cosmetic right

[waxen terrace]

means you get to build more overclocks in the forge for forge mastery

[twin blade]

Any recommended links for reading up on deep dives? I just unlocked them

[tranquil apex]

i dont buy the cosmetic ones as it is though

bc im only at like 400k credits id run out so fast

[waxen terrace]

the cosmetic overclocks are cheap tho

[zinc coral]

just read up on the wiki https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Dives
the intro, difficulty, and rewards section should give you the idea. And read the rest for other minor details.
It's basically three missions back to back, and your collected nitra carries over to the next stage. And you get cores as a reward for completing each stage successfully (earned only once per dive rotation)

[brave patio]

deep dives are the same for everyone right?

[tranquil apex]

yes

[brave patio]

whats the normal DD like this round? want to know what to expect.

[tranquil apex]

my team wiped in the last stage it was mactera plague

[zinc coral]

check the pins

the pinned message by muffin cat is updated every week that shows the details of all the stages

[brave patio]

ty

whats black box?

[tranquil apex]

kinda like an uplink

you defend a box and gotta get the bar full

[brave patio]

mk

[zinc coral]

As herm said, it's like the uplink. The biggest difference is that with the black box, it can deplete all the way to zero and it wont fail the mission. You can still recharge it up from 0

[brave patio]

ok ty

[open ledge]

Yoooooo

Your builds on karl.gg are legendary

[strong dust]

My Scout’s new 18k beard would disagree

[tranquil apex]

some of the cosmeticsa re like 20k arent they

way more then the OC

[waxen terrace]

ye

and you might as well build the cosmetic OCs if you get em

every 5 OCs you craft gets you 1 free OC from the forge

[zinc coral]

thanks heh

[wise nebula]

not a link but, if you only clear the first 2 stages don't worry, since the 3rd stage is always a cosmetic overclock.

[twin blade]

good to know thanks

[jagged pumice]

bad badland is my new favorite deep dive name

[restive trout]

EDD was okay. Stage 3 got a rather nasty drop spot. Need a zipline up or a tunnel to the rig.

Detonator will come by and say hi at some point.

My team had 2 level 40-50s but the Scout level...400 or something hardcarried us.

[wise nebula]

oof good to knpw

[glossy marlin]

EDD seemed like a piece of cake

for like the 12th week in a row

didn't need to use my iron will on any stage

[tranquil apex]

my first team wiped on the edd, second team almost wiped but we made it out

my first team also wiped on the DD , so take it as you will

they were just random pub fills though

[waxen terrace]

something is defo wrong if your team gets wiped on a DD

cause its like haz 3/3.5

EDD is more of "always stick with your team whenever a swarm comes" and having to really know what your class strengths and limits are

[zealous pond]

third stage hits like a truck on this week's EDD

[tranquil apex]

i never said it was a good team just that my team lost

the mactera plague got us

[waxen terrace]

yea and something is definitely up

[spark sigil]

what are DD haz lvls?

[sly kettle]

3, 3.5 and 3.5.

[spark sigil]

thanks!

[wise nebula]

hmm, good to know I should bring the subata instead of epc for once.

[random rampart]

But
But

Multikill with tcf

[wise nebula]

that's what C4 is for too,

[random rampart]

I don't think you can throw c4s in the air so far

[wise nebula]

gotta combo with the Engi's grenade launcher mobility overclock

[warm imp]

Duo bud and I like running double engie on Dives
Went pretty well for this weeks DD, we got rekt at EDD stage 2 though

[wise nebula]

Oof,

[crimson tinsel]

EPC wrecks groups of mactera. Just have to be good with the timing.

[jolly hazel]

the explosion right

I am so bad with it

weak point subata does work though

[old widget]

Heavy hitter on EPC isn’t bad either, though non hitscan projectiles are a little trickier

[jolly hazel]

I overheat in like 5 shots

with that one

[solar schooner]

@oblique pewter I know you guys can't help with that, but devs can. The same way people made devs nerf difficulty in the past the same way they can increase the difficulty, add new harder content in next season etc. I agree, difficulty is okay for casual gamer, but after you play the game for a while there's nothing to pursue because you do everything easily and since there is no pvp you are stuck with doing the same easy (for you) content. I would just like to see more challenging stuff on top on everything there is now, the only thing that should have increased difficulty and rewards is EDD imo because it's nowhere near Elite like the name suggests. I still play the game because it's fun despite how much I hate the dumbed down difficulty and I'm still disappointed after realizing how trivial the endgame content is. There's so many veterans that have hundreds of hours into the game, I can't imagine that they wouldn't love some new more challenging content too.

[burnt sandal]

the game is intentionally made "easy", it's very much meant to be casual

if you want difficulty, we got mods (if you're on Steam)

[oblique pewter]

I literally just came back from eating waffles just to see this wall of mucho texto what the hell.

[solar schooner]

Well sorry for discussing in "deep-dive-discussion" I won't be producing myself anymore.

[potent vector]

this week's EDD is on the easy side yes? I never played EDD before. I'm struggling even at solo haz 4 atm.

[jolly hazel]

its pretty easy but it has escort which might fuck you if you arent coordinated

if you are struggling haz 4, edd is 4.5/5/5.5

so you might be dead weight for the team

play scout and just hoover up minerals

[orchid cliff]

How many hours on average should you have to do a deep dive?

[tough hawk]

enough to unlock it

[tawdry basalt]

By the time you’ve played enough to have a promotion you should be fine

[old widget]

Don’t gatekeep yourself (or others!) with metrics like hours played. Just go click the button and try the thing. It’s endgame content and OK to fail.

[orchid cliff]

Oh. Thank you haha

[jolly hazel]

deep dive is haz 3 so if u can handle haz 3 you are fine

[marsh haven]

its 3/3.5/3.5

so yea

deep dives shouldn't be a problem

[jolly hazel]

I think gatekeeping dd is dumb but unless you are doing edd solo or with friends you are broadcasting that you are competent though to handle EDD (unless you say something) and people should invest their 40 min-1 hour with you to complete the EDD

IMO

with save editors now level # means nothing so gatekeeping thru hours (private profile) or level (save editor) is meaningless

so its just trust that they are able to handle themselves

[quiet mortar]

Gatekeeping anything in DRG is dumb

It's a game, even when you fail a Mission you still get tons of rewards lol

[burnt sandal]

levels never meant anything, cheats or not

[jolly hazel]

don't get anything if you fail a deep dive twice lol

I find it hard to believe that playtime doesn't correlate with skill for 95% of the population

[marsh haven]

it kinda does

but theres exceptions

[jolly hazel]

yeah definetly

but those are the types of players I try to avoid anyways

[marsh haven]

why

if someone gets good in 5h instead of 50

thats a good thing

[jolly hazel]

oh I meant

the inverse

[marsh haven]

oh yea lol

[jolly hazel]

yeah I have met really competent single promos

but high levels who are bad, are usually bad because they refuse to learn

[marsh haven]

yea

[jolly hazel]

or are antisocial

like actually antisocial

and are playing a co op game

[marsh haven]

dunno

im the type of guy who gets good quick

n its kinda sad sometimes

people gatekeeping bc i have X ammount of hours in a game

yes, 20h isnt much at all but trust me when i say that i know my way around the game

[jolly hazel]

yeah of course

no way to gatekeep efficiently so there's no point

[marsh haven]

there is actually

ps5 privileges

[jolly hazel]

I think previous shooter/horde game experience definetly helps

[marsh haven]

you can just check someones hours

[jolly hazel]

just knowing how to kite

[marsh haven]

i had none

😂

[jolly hazel]

orly

what games do u play

[marsh haven]

never played any game like this

[marsh haven]

everything i feel like playing tbh

sometimes dayz

sometimes its dead by daylight

when i feel like it its r6

no real trend, just everything and anything thats fun

[jolly hazel]

id consider dbd and day z good uh

avoidance simulators

lol

[marsh haven]

i play the exact opposite way lmao

in dayz i look for pvp

and in dbd i usually play killer

why is it possible to kick someone mid deep dive

just got kicked right before the end for no reason

didnt get the OC

or any xp

[silver island]

wow that is rude af

[jolly hazel]

I always host for that reason

probably cuz people can troll even on edd but

should probably be a vote kick in that situation lol

[silver island]

I have been kicked from deep dive too.. but was like round 2 and I died like a moron.. probably cause of that. So far completed 3 deep dives in total.. gotta learn the ropes I guess

[jolly hazel]

deep dive or elite

3 is plenty

what class do you usually play

[silver island]

2 Deep dives and 1 elite

I usually play engi/driller but guys wanted scout which I dont play that good yet. But want to learn it more. I like the class and synergy Scout+Engi

[jolly hazel]

yeah its super efficient and easy to deal with cuz light+swarm clear

u start to miss gunner shields and driller tunnel back though lol

[silver island]

Yeah true. I prefer playing with all other dwarf classes to have everything 😄

I did solo normal Deep dive on engi once. Felt like a king 😄 But one of the missions were refine liquid morkite and I really hated doing superweird elevator platforms.. Wish I had driller then.

[jolly hazel]

was it like

2 weeks ago lol

yeah that one was basically driller required

[silver island]

Yeah that first round which had refinery in a hole 😄

[woeful pawn]

Hi everyone

[violet warren]

A bulk spawned coming from below during the black box in deep dive phase 2, and we had no way to kite it without leaving the balck box

Luckily, I was cryo driller

And failing that I could've probably popped iron will

[marsh haven]

i got kicked right before we activated the mule on round 2

so i helped them do the edd

[jolly hazel]

thats...a weird time

[marsh haven]

and didnt even get xp

or casg

[jolly hazel]

I've seen kicks immediately before mule on 3

because host took advantage of their work

[marsh haven]

i just wanted the damn OC man

😂

i even switched to a class they didnt have yet

[feral atlas]

Um, to be honest, that last part isn't even a favor.

It's usually expect that you take a class that isn't already taken.

[marsh haven]

im on ps4

people dont knoe any of that

you usually see 3 scouts

lmfao

[feral atlas]

I suppose.

On steam, you do that, or get out.

[marsh haven]

well yea

yall are playing for some time now

we got the game like 2 weeks ago

[jolly hazel]

4 gunners is probably the quickest I've seen a swarm end

[marsh haven]

4 engis

breach cutter go brrrr

[glossy marlin]

engineer is so far above all other classes in terms of damage potential, it's not even funny, it's just a design oversight at this point

[jolly hazel]

IMO easier to apply with autocannon gunner but yeah lol

I guess he pays for it for limited non-static utility

[marsh haven]

war

wat

with engi you just shoot the breach cutter

and everything dies

if its an oppressor just curve your bullets with lok

[silver island]

I love breach cutter. recently got the overclock for "returning" the beam and its superfun to use

[jolly hazel]

I just see bugs on the ceiling and I left click

brech cutter is closer ranged imo and pgl has ballistic trajectory

breach cutter is straight line too

[marsh haven]

"closer range"

it will kill more than the pgl

bc it travels very far

[marsh haven]

and this "issue" can be somewhat fixed with an IC

OC

[jolly hazel]

roll control?

doesn't solve the base problem

where it doesn't deal with perpendicular targets/nonflat as well as pgl or autocannon

also close range as in its harder to lead a slow moving proj

[unkempt saffron]

Its return to sender

[marsh haven]

^

trust me, no matter what you do

a breach cutter is always gonna kill more bugs

unless you dump a fatboi into a corridor and somehow make 300bugs walk through it

[burnt sandal]

doubt

[jolly hazel]

unless you move perpendicular to the wall

return to sender isnt going to curve it

breach cutter is better when everything has went to shit and u need to kill 100 bugs clustered around ur dead teammates and the 200 chasing you

[jolly hazel]

clean sweep is my favorite

aim at grunts and pull

[waxen terrace]

breach cutter is good if the bugs are lined up in a horizontal plane

[jolly hazel]

yep

which happens more than you would think

but thats way too close for comfort for me

[waxen terrace]

pgl is good when the bugs are on walls or crawling around like spoderman

[brisk pagoda]

the hitbox is large enough that it will hit a lot of things

especially with triple line

[waxen terrace]

i prefer plasma trail

and breach cutter technically needs abit more positioning personally if you wanna optimize that conga line kill

[jolly hazel]

does plasma trail stack with spinning death

[main lantern]

im going to go with no

[waxen terrace]

likely no

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[main lantern]

and by stacking do you mean the trail multi hits?

[old widget]

spinning death will leave a plasma trail if you configure that weapon mod, yes, but it doesn't stack multiple instances of plasma trail on the same bug

my standard build for spinning death includes plasma trail + stun

[waxen terrace]

hope nobody is stupid enough to click that link above

[jolly hazel]

by stack i mean does it increase dps

[waxen terrace]

in a sense yes

cause bonus dot

[old widget]

I mean you get the DPS of plasma trail as a bonus, so that's an increase

[jolly hazel]

is it meaningful enough to ditch triple line though

also

[old widget]

but no unique interaction with spinning death beyond that

[jolly hazel]

stun on spinning death or armor shredder

[old widget]

eh. depends on your aim I guess

stun 100% IMO

[jolly hazel]

i like seeing naked praetorians

[old widget]

stun ensures the bug stays in the blender

[jolly hazel]

so vulnerable...

[waxen terrace]

i kinda stopped using triple line tbh

[old widget]

all you have to do is nick a mactera with it and that mac is dead

[waxen terrace]

and triple beam with spinning death is redundant

[jolly hazel]

oh I thought each beam did dmg

[old widget]

probably veering into #drg-chat territory tho

[jolly hazel]

uhhhhhh do I bring spinning death to the edd

there

[waxen terrace]

imo no

spinning death cuts your ammo hard

[jolly hazel]

even for dread?

[waxen terrace]

especially dread

you cant stun dreads to keep them in spinning death

[jolly hazel]

ah ok

[waxen terrace]

imo spinning death is like the BC's version of fatboy

[jolly hazel]

last time I saw spinning death was in a dread heavy edd

[old widget]

eh...I could see SD on the normal DD this week

[waxen terrace]

well its normal DD

its free real estate

[old widget]

it's good for mac plague and swarmageddon with the max width and plasma

but yeah, normal DD, kinda...whatever you want to bring

I do like SD for escort too though

[waxen terrace]

thats fine since escort is campy

[old widget]

and black box in this EDD too...and mining / PE...so it's not the worst EDD I've seen for SD

[waxen terrace]

just watch for allies

[old widget]

SD is really light on FF, somehow

even on H5

[waxen terrace]

BC to me is really painful with FF

like you can cut a person's hp by 15-20%

[wraith shard]

Hah first deep dive complete!

[jolly hazel]

congrats

[waxen terrace]

enjoy your ocs

[wraith shard]

Hah now im drunk on a mining mission to celebrate

[brisk pagoda]

i think they reduced its friendly fire like a year ago

[viscid oak]

need 1 more for edd xbox if anyone up for it

[normal willow]

just read the conversation. im kinda newbie but love that I can understand all those SD, BC, EDD, H5, FF etc 😄 Done my first DD and I was a pain in ass in EDD, somehow managed to finish all of them alive tbh. love the community, love the game. hail. rock and stone.

[jolly hazel]

congrats

[fickle yarrow]

Good stuff

[jolly hazel]

https://files.catbox.moe/pi0sfu.png

can confirm theres a lot of swarmers this week

[chrome forge]

How difficult is the EDD this week

[twin blade]

I just unlocked deep dives last night -- gonna try my first this evening. How come the server list is always grayed out? Am I missing a prerequisite?

[jolly hazel]

those are in progress dives

u can host ur own

[violet oasis]

What's the EDD this week? I did the last 2 and I am surprised to find it wasn't all that hard or a miserable experience like way back when they were introduced. Had some good teams who didn't berate me for being knocked down or bringing the "wrong" gun. Might try another.

[jolly hazel]

check the pins

[supple hollow]

Just did the EDD solo. Took exactly 1 hour. Stage 1 and 3 arent too bad, stage 2 its very difficult keeping the drilldozer alive if you are solo

[violet oasis]

I didn't know they pin those. Thanks.

[jolly hazel]

yeah and it gets updated within like

an hour each week

pretty cool

[violet oasis]

man. escort on such a difficulty level sounds like pain.

[jolly hazel]

eh

just bring major swarm clear

biggest killer in escort is forgetting about enemies lol

or funny double bulk spawn

[violet oasis]

yeah. Been wondering if I need to get a replacement OC for carpet bomber.

[jolly hazel]

nope

the one i posted was with carpet bomber

my favorite

oc

you shred everything and everything you cant shred is someone elses job

[violet oasis]

lol I got double bulk in last week's. Then a third came and I fought it alone and got blocked by molly when it went off. xD

[jolly hazel]

yep

sometimes rng is a bastard

[violet oasis]

yeah. It was in a tight tunnel and it found me where you dig through dirt so the hole was only dwarf sized since we had no driller. Molly ended up parked right in the hole as I killed it. The rest of the team had a laugh and gave me a "wow good job" pat on the back for killing it for them. Was a fun run.

not sure if I have the energy or time to try tonight. Maybe tomorrow. Thanks again.

[jolly hazel]

the escort definetly lengthens the mission

stage 3 is kinda awkward verticality wise

but if u have an hour id give it a shot

and np

[violet warren]

Alright, when should eggs be popped in phase 3 of the EDD?

our team tried "as soon as possible" and got wrecked by a double swarm

[placid crane]

in my edd w/ a friend only, we got the one at the bottom instantly, and got the aquarq out nearby, after the first natural swarm happens, get the second egg to be safe

we were pretty casual about it getting them, so long as you have a clear path getting to the rig

for reference we did driller + scout, he was driller and i was scout, drilling from the bottom to the rig is pretty good

[jolly hazel]

pop one egg at a time and wait if you hear the swarmwarning

[cerulean lichen]

did it twice this week, with several friends. We made a typical bunker right behind the rig, and were just camping inside every time there was a swarm alert whether was it scheduled or because of the egg

on 2nd run we had a detonator, so i just drilled a long exit tunnel when we heard him, and simply ran out of the bunker as soon as we could see the fker

[low moss]

thoughts on driller having 600+ kills and gunner with less than 300 during the second stage of an EDD

[burnt sandal]

it's swarmaggedon and your gunner has minigun, or he kept his ammo and let the driller do the heavy lifting, or he's bad.

[low moss]

I can at least tell you he had an AC

[burnt sandal]

maybe he was using big bertha

[main sage]

when i run sticky fuel my driller usually gets more kills than gunner but not as many as a good engineer

its also possible the driller was enthusiastic about taking out swarmer nests

[cerulean lichen]

you are in EDD, it doesnt matter who has more kills or nitra mined...

[rigid venture]

dozee into point extraction

I hate it here

[open ledge]

Stage 2 of EDD is tough

There’s just so many bugs lol

[coral mountain]

nice 2 hour elite deep dive just to get kicked when whe win totaly not ultra mad

[near garden]

you aren't lying right?

[coral mountain]

no it was some chinese host

[near garden]

oof

[coral mountain]

dicked me out of my loot

mind you i ressed these guys like 15 time per mission

[near garden]

wanna run it? I've been around but don't expect me to perform a miracle.

[coral mountain]

so it feels like my brain is trying to exit my head

[near garden]

or more than one anyway

[coral mountain]

nah i am good it is 5 am atm

[near garden]

GL MY GUY

[coral mountain]

u 2 man

[noble cape]

Whats the 3rd stage for EDD this week?

nvm I'm blind

[weak notch]

on the industrial sabotage missions you cant join mid boss fight cause "the team is on the final stretch", i wonder of that feature would be a good thing to have but in reverse; to not be able to kick someone if you're on stage 3 running to pod. even then they could just kick before calling pod but still

[ember thicket]

This has happen to me! Why do people kick right at the very end??

[chilly pine]

My first deep dive y’all

How is it?

Ps4 guy

[lucid nest]

Depends what hazard level do you usually play on?

[wraith shard]

solo the EDD

get stuffed shells

[wraith peak]

do you get the free cores on your first dive of the week? or every dive?