deep-dive-discussion

[unkempt lake]

failed the EDD 3 times in a row. Every time once reaching 2nd dive cave, people spread out, each trying to kill something solo, we all die one by one, not able to res each others because of swarms.

[silk seal]

don't dive too deep or you'll fall in lava

deep dive dangerous

don't

[dry sluice]

what does it mean when a DD or EDD group is grey out when you're on the 'joining' page?

[iron adder]

Man, that first room on the regular DD hits the ground running.

[reef reef]

The Dive has started

[outer lynx]

how do you like to solo deep dives? what class?

[burnt sandal]

I usually go solo gunner, but that's just because I like gunner too much

[dark vector]

stage 2 of elite deep dive keeps doing a deep dive into my asshole

idk if my team just sucks but this is impossible

haven't gotten a single swarm alert on that map, yet im constantly being swarmed by everything

fighting the dreadnought was the most relaxing part of the mission

[misty pivot]

Yeah stage 2 is the hardest one this week

[mild scroll]

newish to the game and was just curios, but if i do multiple deep do i still get the rewards like the cores and stuff?

[smoky gorge]

Nope once per week

[mild scroll]

alright, thanks

[random rampart]

You only get one of each stage's rewards per week, yes

[warm trout]

🤣

[violet warren]

Stage 2's main room was pretty difficult in my experience

No, gunners, you should not zipline the team right into the middle of that mess

[upbeat whale]

man the 2nd level of EDD was rough af

but other than that it was smooth sailing

[gusty cradle]

anyone else struggling to find people for deep dives? I tried to solo it but I'd rather do it with other people

[upbeat whale]

i usually click Join and wait till a game shows up

[gusty cradle]

cries in NZ

[upbeat whale]

thats why Join, my ping is always 100-200

if i host nobody will ever join me, but joining someone else isnt an issue

[gusty cradle]

wis hme luck I joined a hobby in EU lol

on the other side of the planet lol

[upbeat whale]

dead game 😦

[gusty cradle]

9am here lol

[gusty cradle]

well we failed lol

[wraith shard]

What’s a deep dive

[burnt sandal]

https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Dives

[gusty cradle]

but the next one was succesful!

[gleaming cave]

everybody gangsta til everyone had to use their abilities and the scout has to IW Resupp to just survive 2 dets, macs, and a swarm before pod opens

I

I just crashed

It was the last swarm before we called on the 3rd mission

Also

I'm the host

Was

I'm not sure whether or not I should be depressed or very angry

[solid patrol]

so this is the deeping diving

[coarse edge]

indeed

[solid patrol]

i dont know why im here cuz i cant do deep dives yet

but i am

[coarse edge]

ok so lets say i already completed a deep dive if i were to join someone elses deep dive would i get a core?

[burnt sandal]

no

[coarse edge]

sad

[burnt sandal]

you get the reward for each deep dive once a week

[coarse edge]

but understandable

k thanks

[viscid oak]

That final refuel part on EDD this week is brutal

stage 2

[coarse edge]

for real

[gleaming cave]

Stage 2 fucks

[coarse edge]

so many exploders

bosco helped a bit tho

[viscid oak]

I’ve reached that part 3 times now and we got beat down

[gleaming cave]

I don't even REMEMBER how many Detonators my team and I had to kill BEFORE this moment!

No like everyone was DOWN, everyone used their IW

I was the only one who used my IW to resupp and just

unvibe and dodge

I killed a couple of macs but I could NOT do anything against 2 dets like you kidding me?

had to Grapple around for 30 seconds before the pod opened

[coarse edge]

what i do is listen for the sound of rock moving then just stop what your doing and wait for the bugs kill them then continue

[viscid oak]

😂

[gleaming cave]

AND THEN I CRASHED AT THE VERY VERY END OF THE EDD AND I WAS THE HOST TOO SO-

[viscid oak]

Noooo

[gleaming cave]

NAW LIKE WHAT THE HELL

[viscid oak]

that’s sucks ass

[gleaming cave]

IT DOES

[coarse edge]

damn

[gleaming cave]

I wanna punch the code spaghetti who programmed that singular crash bug

[coarse edge]

i mean

i could have just been you

not the game

[gleaming cave]

Well I don't know code, but I just kinda

sat there

when the Unreal Engine window popped up

[viscid oak]

We got refuel to 85% then bam all three went down I had to bail back in the tunnel just couldn’t beat back the swarm to get to it in time …so damn close

What’s stage 3 like?

[coarse edge]

it can be the code

but it could have been your computer or whatever

[gleaming cave]

Whatever it was, Miss Fortune slugged me with a left hook and stepped on me with her leather stilleto heel boots and frankly I'm quite disappointed to say the least

[coarse edge]

i play scout wby

[gleaming cave]

Scoot

[coarse edge]

nice

[gleaming cave]

I have a lot of fun with grapples and sniping tbh

[coarse edge]

i use the plasma carbine

[gleaming cave]

Mh

Is fun ig

[gleaming cave]

Honestly it'd suck if it was just me crashing but what makes it worse was that everyone loses because I hosted like NOOOOOOOOOOOO-

[brisk elk]

Mate stage 2 of EDD is haaaard

Wiped 3 times now on the refuel part

[upbeat whale]

we died like 50 times combined on the 2nd EDD stage lol

but succeeded first try 😎

[brisk elk]

please tell me stage 3 gets easier than that

[upbeat whale]

3 was easy as hell

[brisk elk]

typical

[burnt sandal]

that's what counts 👌

[upbeat whale]

ye i even took a screenshot because i never succeeded after dying so many times lol https://i.imgur.com/AgXIjrp.jpg

more than 50 lol

[brisk elk]

congrats on that dude!

[burnt sandal]

poor driller and engi 😂

[upbeat whale]

haha yeah. our gunner was really good, his positioning always was on point

[marble veldt]

This week was yet another chill EDD, and I'm not complaining. Feels good to have a break sometimes
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/929498422875144192/unknown.png

[gleaming cave]

2 Dets.
We had 2 dets at the same time when we were about to escape.
I only survived because I IW'd into a resupply.
Everyone else IW'd and died, getting camped by the damaged Det.

[upbeat whale]

same

i think everyone gets it

i mean we didnt die there, that was the easy part for us

getting to that was rough lol

[marble veldt]

Stage 2 Drop Pod location was soooo gooood.
Only 2 tunnels to watch 👌

[upbeat whale]

we didnt do any fancy bunkering or strategies, just running around like crazy

[gleaming cave]

You know...considering that less dwarves mean less bugs, wondering if having 3 instead of 4 dwarves would be a viable strat to complete the EDD

[marble veldt]

And we did get 2 Bulks on Stage 2, one on Stage 3, but they were a non issue

[gleaming cave]

I love how trivialized dets can be as soon as they get Crit Weakness
Shot one on a non-DD with Hyper-Prop and was like "Huh. Got a strong gun, heheh" before I realized lmao

[marble veldt]

Pretty sure the difference in enemy density isn't that significant between 3 or 4 dwarfs.
We did have quite a lot to deal with, as you can see by our number of kills

[gleaming cave]

Yeah, still looks hectic lol

I wonder what the maths is.

[gleaming cave]

The truest way to dwarf

[burnt sandal]

you can have a look at the wiki if you're curious

[gleaming cave]

As expected!

Ignores the wiki (nah jk)

[gleaming cave]

Uh, where's it say the enemy density? Looking at https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Difficulty_Scaling#Normal_Scaling

[crimson tinsel]

I one shotted a bulk on Stage 3 lol

[gleaming cave]

oh wait I just had to scroll whoops

[gleaming cave]

What with?

[crimson tinsel]

Hyperprop. Critical Weakness OP

[upbeat whale]

enemy health doesnt change between difficulties?

[gleaming cave]

Hehe, ye

[upbeat whale]

or armor?

[marble veldt]

Smaller enemies no
Bigger stuff like Praetorians or Oppressors yes

[gleaming cave]

Enemy resistance it looks like

[upbeat whale]

aha thats still good

[gleaming cave]

The Illusion™️ of more HP

[burnt sandal]

it does change, not the armor tho

Technically it's not even the HP that changes but the resistance (but it ends up being "HP")
And it scales between difficulty and player count, everything can be found in details on the wiki too

[upbeat whale]

because it means... like my current K1000 build requires 2 (headshot+bodyshot) or 3 (3x bodyshots) to kill a standard bug

regardless of difficulty

it would be real nice to swap to a build that can 1 headshot kill or 2 bodyshot

[marble veldt]

Yeah the whole "Effective HP" thingy. But it's simpler to consider it's just more HP

[upbeat whale]

i got like 170 ammo 🤔

[burnt sandal]

The breakpoints for grunt is 108, it caps out in haz 4 and doesn't change past that. That's the most important breakpoint

[vale lintel]

the different between health and effective health yeah

[burnt sandal]

The other ones are swarmers, slashers and mactera.

For everything else, it's not really worth it to bother

[vale lintel]

doesn't haz 5 just not increase health, only spawn rates and damage?

[vale lintel]

damage breakpoint for elephant rounds against menace time

[burnt sandal]

And speed, and projectile speed

Haz 5 only increase health for bigger enemies, and about 100hp for most of them usually

[vale lintel]

well yeah projectile and movement speed

[marble veldt]

Using Hipster? You should switch to damage on T1 and Weakpoint Bonus on T4. You can one shot grunts on any Haz with a headshot

[upbeat whale]

i love that this stuff doesnt change too much tbh. one of the issues in vt2 imo is that stuff you experience on low difficulties doesnt teach you anything cause enemies on higher difficultiues have completely different values for everything lol

yeah im using Hipster

[vale lintel]

honestly moderately disappointing that the M1000 has like 20% max weakpoint bonus but I get that it needs the balance

don't want a faster firing bulldog with a hundred rounds and a 10 round clip

[burnt sandal]

it used to have more and it was stupidly OP lol

[upbeat whale]

M1000 with autoclicker is insane

im like top DPS when i let that thing rip lol

[marble veldt]

I'm running 23221 Hipster

[vale lintel]

just get carpal tunnel and be host it's that easy

[upbeat whale]

lemme see what i got

[marble veldt]

Lots of good breakpoints

[upbeat whale]

my build is 23213 Hipster

[marble veldt]

With my build, Focus shots one tap slashers and Mactera Spawns on weakpoint hit

If you prefer Blowthrough, I suggest you take Increased Focus Shot damage

[upbeat whale]

yeah hmmm

hmm in that case 13113? 🤔

[marble veldt]

No

[upbeat whale]

tbh with 184 ammo i usually just spam

rarely use charged shot

[marble veldt]

2311X

[upbeat whale]

does penetration work without charged shot?

[marble veldt]

Yes

[upbeat whale]

alright then its fine

[marble veldt]

Better take more damage on T1 anyway

Better breakpoints, less bullets wasted

[upbeat whale]

i kinda like this 23213 build, it scales with the difficulty

the more enemies there are, the more value you get out of it

i spam into horde with autoclicker

[marble veldt]

You'll get even more value with more powerful focus shots.
But if you prefer spamming then sure, go right ahead

Definitely not my style but if it's what you like, I've got no power here lol

[upbeat whale]

i yoinked the build from some streamer guy who's level 3500 lol

i think ill stop using steeve, its too inconsistent

sometimes he helps, but many times hes totally useless

[marble veldt]

Your point being?

[burnt sandal]

don't be mean

[marble veldt]

He's using player level as an argument, I just can't not react xD

[burnt sandal]

yeah you can, stop channeling your inner french

lol

[marble veldt]

Non!

[upbeat whale]

whats the top active perks to use now that im getting rid of steve? 🤔

[marble veldt]

Anyway... Just because someone is using a certain build doesn't mean it's automatically good

Even if they're high level

[upbeat whale]

field medic? shield link?

[burnt sandal]

Dash, it's OP

Field medic is very good on anyone too

[upbeat whale]

id probably use it on everything other than Scout, true

[burnt sandal]

See You In Hell is never bad

[upbeat whale]

but seems unnecessary on scout

[burnt sandal]

Berzerker is very good too

[marble veldt]

I use Dash on Scout

If people gush about Special Powder, why shouldn't I use Dash?

[burnt sandal]

It's never necessary on anyone.

It's OP, there's no denying it, I'm still not using it on any class

Also a classic for scout and driller alike (and people who are a bit imaginative) : hoverboots

[upbeat whale]

i mean theres 3-4 sec cooldown on the grappling hook, why get another mobility with 25 sec cooldown :x

[burnt sandal]

it's free mobility and it can save you in some situation

[marble veldt]

Because it's free and has quite a lot of uses

[burnt sandal]

free mobility is never bad

[marble veldt]

Aside from mobility

Not to mention I could ask the same question about Special Powder...

But then I'd get too sarcastic

[burnt sandal]

the big thing that make dash OP is the part where it get rids of slow

[marble veldt]

And we don't want that

[burnt sandal]

(and the low CD)

[upbeat whale]

special powder lets you cover like 50 meter jumps instantly

also save yourself from fall damage/death

[marble veldt]

So can grappling hook and overall experience

[burnt sandal]

It also has the downside of making it unable to use offensively when falling/jumping

Special Powder is fun but I don't personally use it

[marble veldt]

Like I said earlier in chat: I like being able to shoot my Boomstick in mid-air without yeeting myself

[burnt sandal]

it's fine if you like it tho

nothing wrong with it

[marble veldt]

I second that

Used it, had some fun, realized it didn't suit me, never equipped it again

End of story

[burnt sandal]

I personally don't enjoy the M1000 much, except with hoverclock

[marble veldt]

Ah now we're talking

[upbeat whale]

you guys remember the name of that guy uhhh, scout main i cant remember

prospect prophet prosomething

used to play modded solo haz6 with twitch integration

[keen ether]

Found this week's elite deep dive to be even easier

[upbeat whale]

beating that without special powder would be impossible

[marble veldt]

Not at all

Special Powder doesn't magically make you able to deal with Haz 5 and above

I'm sorry if it's cliché but...

It's just a matter of skill

See this is exactly why I'm adamantly saying Special Powder is overrated.

[burnt sandal]

it's also a matter of playstyle

[burnt pilot]

Looking for some folks to do a deep dive with

Haven't done one yet

any recomendations going in?

[marble veldt]

Which class are you most comfortable with?

[burnt pilot]

Gunner, have been dabbling in driller but most of my experience is on gunner

[marble veldt]

Aight, looking at DD stages, I think Minigun would be best (considering the mutator on Stage 2, you might want a bit more single target damage)

Otherwise, classic stuff: stick to your teammates, get Nitra, use your shield often and proactively

[burnt sandal]

tbh, minigun is always the best option

if you wanna play it safe

[marble veldt]

True true

Hoi Vern! Please refer to the resident Gunner here

[burnt pilot]

Well the minigun is my favoorit baby

She is just so satisfying

[burnt sandal]

The minigun is literally the weapon you can bring in any scenario and do good with

Good single target damage, good ammo pool, good accuracy for range, and it's efficient enough to let you shred through waves (even more so with blowthrough)

Can never go wrong with that gun

[burnt pilot]

I feel it

[marble veldt]

Good ol' reliable, Gunner edition

[burnt sandal]

(not counting specific OC build ofc)

[burnt pilot]

What is that?

Over clock?

[burnt sandal]

OC means overclock yeah

[burnt pilot]

gotcha

[burnt sandal]

Are you gonna go solo for your DD or not ?

[burnt pilot]

yeah I would love to start unlocking some of those, I honestly have been avoiding looking up things about the over clocks, I kinda just want to feel them out

[burnt sandal]

That's a great mindset
a big part of the fun is discovering stuff by yourself

[burnt pilot]

I think the game is best played with other people so I was gonna throw a lfg comment

[burnt sandal]

Alright. I'll give you a few basic gunner advices then if you want

[burnt pilot]

I am down

[gleaming cave]

For the M1000 (Garand), right?

[burnt sandal]

First thing to know : Your primary job as a gunner is to protect your team, and that's where your big guns are put in use.

You can either build your weapons for damage or CC (through stun and slow), both being valid ways to keep the bugs of the back of your team. You're the pillar of your team and if things go wrong, you have your trusty shield™️ to save the day.
Use your shield whenever you feel like you're getting overrun, or to save a teammate or to revive them in a pinch. Don't shy away from using them all : it's a very very strong tool.

Your grenades are specialised in CC and area denial : the cluster has AoE stun, the incendiary pretty much kill any grunts walking in and the spiky can fear enemies. Don't hesitate to use that at your advantage.

The zipline is an interesting tool : you don't have a lot of opportunity to use those usually but whenever you see big chasm or a drop, it's your time to shine. They can also be used as a safeguard or kiting tool if you ever need to take a fight near an edge.
Though your mobility isn't great as gunner, simply jumping and humping walls can put you in a LOT of places that you might have thought were unreachable. That and the smart use of terrain. Abuse that and you'll see your reduced mobility not being so bad after all

[grave aurora]

Best perk set up for scout? (all 3 passive slots and 2 actives are unlocked)

[upbeat whale]

i went on a search for the guy with the special powder lol, found him

its proponent_

some clips i found https://www.twitch.tv/proponent_/clip/ExquisiteSilkySandwichMikeHogu and https://www.twitch.tv/proponent_/clip/HonestTemperedGrassBloodTrail

[marble veldt]

I second the third part. Gunner mobility stems from your inventive use of terrain. He might not have a grappling hook, but he can sure use his brain

[upbeat whale]

hasnt been playing drg for years though 😦

[rustic mesa]

I like to make a web with intersecting ziplines and jump between them to avoid bugs and projectiles

[burnt sandal]

Also positioning is important. Though you have the means to keep your enemies at bay, you might end up overwhelmed. Don't hesitate to throw a shield for some breathing room (preferably, you would have been on the move before it happens but it's not always easy as bugs will try to flank you).
More CC can mean you have a better time standing your ground (because you simply can't kite away because of a chasm or a wall), so more damage isn't always the best option (even though a lot of people seems to think it is).

As a gunner you're slow and your mobility isn't the greatest, as I said. Inventive use of terrain and keeping an eye on the overall battlefield so you're not getting overwhelmed is a very important skill for your survival. That and dealing with priority targets (usually anything that can shoot/slow down your teammates).

That's pretty much it for most gunner's basic knowledge, everything else comes down to fight preparation, terrain use and weapon build and how to use all of that during missions

For the DD part itself : Don't shy away from using your ammo, you'll likely end up with too much nitra anyway

feel free to shoot at your heart's content at anything looking funny at you and your team

[placid crane]

your secondaries are great for taking out priority targets at a distance, and don't be afraid to shield when things get a little too spicy

[burnt sandal]

and drop those shields all the time you think it's needed

a good use of the shield is what makes a good gunner

[placid crane]

cannot stress how important shields are on higher difficulties/EDD, i often see my friends not shield in moments where it's important to do so, so just stressing it here

[burnt pilot]

That is a lot of good advice, I think my main draw to gunner is the deffending the team aspect, I usually main support in most games so having the ability to be the wall between my team and the hoard is really satisfying

[burnt sandal]

it is !

It's kinda funny how a lot of people don't catch up on the gunner's role at first 😄

though the name of the class is a bit misleading tbh

[burnt pilot]

very ture

I also love shoot big gun

minigun go brrrrrrr

[marble veldt]

Petition to change Gunner's name to Defender

[burnt pilot]

That might work

[placid crane]

Warden

Nah, I mean, gunner has large guns, hence I like the name of it. Simple, effective

[burnt sandal]

A lot of people are like "but engi is the most powerful class"
Well yeah, but engi can only defend an area, and usually just himself. It has no CC outside of a few options and grenade. Also, when he's out of ammo, it's game over and that tends to happen quite fast given his ammo economy (which is not the greatest if you're trigger happy)

Meanwhile, gunner can push through an entire wave and have half of his ammo still left at the end. Also, good AoE CC everywhere

[burnt pilot]

I can get through some waves with more than half sometimes

[burnt sandal]

I think the overall balance of classes is pretty good tbh

[marble veldt]

Can't believe there was actually an argument about Gunner being the worst class in drg-chat a few days ago

[burnt pilot]

though I do tend to go for increased ammo

[burnt sandal]

All classes have their own niche and their own way of "carrying the team" when things go wrong

which is great

[marble veldt]

Usually, I'm the short end of the stick so it was kinda jarring to say the least...

[fair lotus]

Nah fuck all classes

Only good miner here is bosco

[placid crane]

Every class is S+ tier.

[fair lotus]

I have been meaning to do a class combination tier list for a long time, what do you think it is the best 4same dawrf team?

Id say gunner

Expecially escort duty with 4 gunners you really can't loose the mission

[zinc coral]

Proponent is still playing. He was just playing yesterday or 2 days ago. Doesn't really play or even host haz6 lobbies anymore tho, just haz5 now

[burnt sandal]

4 gunner is up there honestly, just because of the shields

[fair lotus]

16 shields at once to protect Doretta is actually insane and the Zipline a are great for the fueling fase

[fair lotus]

Yeah, shield are really just an insanely strong tool

And driller has an overhyped second grande smh

I'd say the worst is probably all driller because drills don't really benefit from having two of them, all scout depends on the level, the ones like mining duty you can just rush through them

[jagged pumice]

just completed the normal deep dive, was pretty fun

although the hiveguard spawning immediately was not

[marble veldt]

4 me
But you'd have to clone me and that's impossible

[upbeat whale]

his haz6/twitch integration streams were amazing

like when they spawned 1000 tiny spiders

or like 10 detonators at once 😄

[fair lotus]

I thought that was really funny, stupid but funny

[jagged pumice]

it was really funny, but on the first attempt i did it took both of my revives away

[fair lotus]

What if you speed run and break the coocon

Does the dread dies?

[jagged pumice]

that would also be funny

[fair lotus]

I really have to test it lol

[jagged pumice]

i feel like it wouldn't work unless the weak point was exposed though

might try the elite deep dive, i'll probably get destroyed though

[tall meadow]

This week EDD is a good one for newcomers to give it a run

[severe kindle]

2 floor is really damn hard

1st and 3d ones, on the other hand, are kinda chill

[tidal spruce]

just had 2 dets on the last mission of the normal DD

both during the triangulation stages

[barren girder]

this week elite deep dive stage 2 is scary as hell

[gaunt valve]

judging by mission types alone this shouldn't be too bad for a solo edd

solo scout vroom vroom here we come

[stuck moth]

Gunner is pretty ammo hungry so it must be a nightmare sustaining a team of 4 gunners

[humble sparrow]

Varies depending on the weapon config, Neurotoxin Autocannon x1 would save on a lot of ammo.

[keen ether]

So for this week's EDD I joined up with random crew. 1 driller 2 engineers and myself running NTP didn't even have a problem on stage2. Between the aoe of NTP and the 4 turrets wasn't a big deal. The only times I ever die to swamers or exploders is when I forget to put my game volume up/mute the music. You need to be very alert to be playing without any sound :p

Found the regular ti be harder once again.

[cerulean lichen]

this weeks edd is totally manageable, you have tonns of nitra. But 2-3 weeks ago there was a nightmare edd where i failed 3 times in a row with randoms just because of ammo xD

[keen ether]

I know when I played be4 the real launch when was less then 100 players EDD were nightmares in general. Then again noticed since I got back into game after almost 2 years that everything is also running alot of smoother.

Could never clear them back then would get lucky if the group I bought game with would clear stage 1 and miracle if we cleared stage 2

[severe kindle]

Well, I was with two randoms, and 2d stage was a pain - because we encountered double big exposive bugs three times and last ones were in rather little cave

[wraith shard]

Looking for someone to play deep dive

[gleaming granite]

I've never done a deep dive, but I'd like to try

[rapid lance]

at what point did people start doing edd

[brisk elk]

When we easily completed the normal DD and felt confident enough to try the EDD

It went well

[outer beacon]

I kind of just did it one day, I think I first tried with that Hollow Bough one a couple weeks ago and it went like shit, but then me and my pal just tried the Azure Weald one when it rolled around and did well.

[quasi raft]

Any one know what the best pickaxe upgrade is??

[marble veldt]

Damage is arguably pretty good (240 damage on a Power Attack)

[outer beacon]

I really like recharge speed for power attack, but if I get Slayer Stout, I'll switch over to area of effect because it gives me a lot more breathing room if I'm cornered by bugs.

[burnt sandal]

it's up to preferences
Personally, I always go with recharge speed

[pale dust]

I prefer damage for those bigger bug bum hits

[marble veldt]

3 different answers
All technically right
Pick your poison

Man I love DRG

[fair lotus]

I go for damage

Because most of the time I don't remember the power attack lol

So the recharge speed for me it is kind of pointless

[frail cedar]

i always power attack even when mine is recharging still so recharge speed for me is essential

[unkempt saffron]

Damn, edd aint fuckin around this week

[lunar helm]

Stage 2 is rough, the rest should be OK

[lunar helm]

I almost always pick AOE

to whack swarmers, grunts or squids

[unkempt saffron]

Grabbers + trawlers + sandblasted caves is the bane of my existence

And i think im gonna use poop gun with slow to combat the swarms instead next time

[lunar helm]

if you're struggling a lot with those maybe use heigtened senses

[unkempt saffron]

Or sticky flames, either or for now

Its only really a problem when im the last one alive

[lunar helm]

fair

driller last alive is never easy

[unkempt saffron]

Ill have to find a different approach when entering the cave complex in stage 2

[hard topaz]

This week's normal dive is really fun

Playing with the sniper scout is really useful for handling the elites in the second stage

[brave hare]

A lot of players do, once someone pickaxe the last piece of dirt to the next room you often see everyone rush to the next room, awakening forces that should stay forgotten.

While i am still setting up sentries

[crimson tinsel]

I did the normal DD with the same squad I had just finished the EDD with. Those elites would pop up and get obliterated so fast I hardly had time to realize they were elites lol

[floral meteor]

Elite is only hard when you're solo

Or when elite menaces oneshot the dozer

[old widget]

The thing about stage 2 this week is that it’s a 3-mule salvage mission, which means you’ve got three medium-sized waves that can trigger as soon as you step near a mule, possibly all at once if you spread out and explore separately. That doesn’t count even more possible spawns if you happen to hack out the booby-trapped mini mule legs. Best listen closely for the burrowing sound and regroup to fight the waves as needed

[junior garnet]

So is deep dive over lock rewards only once a week?

Like no matter if you do elite or not

[burnt sandal]

each set of deep dives has it's own set of reward, which you can collect once a week for each

[sand heart]

After you've completed a Deep Dive, you can do it again for the <45 minute achievement (On steam, at least)

[junior garnet]

Oh so the elite gives its own rewards seperate from the normal one

[burnt sandal]

yup

[sand heart]

You can only get 2 blank cores, 2 overclocks and 2 cosmetics per week, if you complete both deep dives

[junior garnet]

So only 2 weapon overclocks per week from deep dives then

[junior garnet]

Ah I see

Thanks a bunch

[crimson tinsel]

Well, four if you use your blank cores and select weapon OC’s instead of cosmetics.

[junior garnet]

Blank cores can only be used in machine events yeah?

[crimson tinsel]

Yeah, just complete machine events and use your blank cores to redeem your overclocks

[junior garnet]

Yeahh

[fathom terrace]

first level sucks without driller

shouldn't have attempted it solo as gunner

aborted when I realized what I'd have to do to get all those pipelines connected

[crimson belfry]

Whoa so is the deep dive the same 3 missions / layout for all console/pc players?

[burnt sandal]

it's the same objectives yeah
the microsoft and playstation versions get a slightly different one for the layout though, since those are limited by previous console gen

[barren cave]

Can you do elite deep dives without OCs?

[crimson belfry]

I have a ps5 and the controller feedback is so great lol. Good to know. Got past the first 2 missions but I don’t want to play it all again just for the cosmetic…

[burnt sandal]

sure

it's not a prerequisite

[wraith stone]

first taste of an EDD, was this week's one particularly hard compared to usual?

[keen ether]

This week's was relatively easy then usual. Last weeks aswell, they usually aren't as easy. Usually can't clear on 1st attempt with a random group but multiple groups have been doing so.

[wraith stone]

i did it solo driller

usually im not eager to join groups cus im not sure how well i'd do with randoms

[vague elbow]

Only one way to find out

[sly vapor]

just completed my first deep dive with a rando! duo, 1:12:18 😀

half of our time was spent in the 1st mission, our refinery spawned in the bottom of a big hole and all the gaysers were on the highest cliffs 👀

[olive vigil]

Any tips on doing elite runs? They are kicking my ass

[olive vigil]

50m is my fastest it was so close lol

[dark hound]

Love saving the DDs for the weekends, hope they get expanded at some point.

[restive trout]

EDD. Stage 2. First we get 2 bulk detonators. And in the very same stage during the fuel part in that rather cramped space around the drop pod. Another pair of bulk detonators appeared.

Mission was doomed from the get go.

[brisk elk]

After a couple of attempts yesterday and getting very frustrated, EDD is defeat

feeling very relieved to say the least. stage 2 is haaaaaard

[restive trout]

How many bulk detonators did you guys have?

[brisk elk]

only 2 on that run

[restive trout]

Lucky.

I mean on stage 2.

[brisk elk]

Yeah yeah 2 on stage 2

[restive trout]

Checks out.

[brisk elk]

Man we had some tough runs yesterday though, its a tricky one

We just got very lucky today

[carmine path]

Tried 5 times yesterday and smashed in one today!

[manic pivot]

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We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks %!s(<nil>)Deep Dives%!s(<nil>)!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!%!s(<nil>)%!(EXTRA string=
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[winter jolt]

wuh oh

i think we got some elven interference going on the comms there mr control

[marble veldt]

I really hope this is intended

Like actual lore, right there

Man that'd be amazing

[burnt sandal]

alas..

[old widget]

If this isn’t pinned I will be sad

[restive brook]

Did anyone else die from the 40ft hole the nexus was covering in the regular dd?

[quiet mortar]

Oh god who gave Mission Control the Error Cubes?

[jolly hazel]

update teaser

[burnt sandal]

Who Even did it, again

[quiet mortar]

As always

[slim otter]

Got 4 detonators today on stage 2 😦

[digital chasm]

F

[simple glade]

stage 2 would be exponentially less annoying if any single one of the particularly annoying elements was removed

but no

the mactera were very insistent that we went to brazil

[unkempt saffron]

Such is an edd

[restive trout]

Okay. When I did the EDD 3 days ago there were only 2 dets stage 2. But today there were 4.

Are they randomized as well?

[jolly hazel]

non-static spawns are randomized

number and type

[unkempt saffron]

^you can have one edd with just one or two bulks, and you can have others which sends an army of them to you

[violet warren]

By spawn type randomiation does that mean that some players won't have bulks at all in the EDD?

Or are the enemy species in the mission set by the seed?

[burnt sandal]

the directors follow the same rules, with the same modificators, using the same pool and with the same number of points, so it's likely people will have a similar experience, yet it's still random

so yeah, some people won't see the same thing for the same DD

The only thing that'll stay similar is the layout and the cave-generated enemies (BET-C, leeches, spitballers, etc.... though all of those are also affected by player count, so a team of 2 players won't have the same things as a team of 4)

[violet warren]

So the director is always given bulk permissions but sometimes mashes the bulk button and sometimes gets distracted hitting the mactera button instead?

Outside of the guaranteed grunt and praetorian spawns, how many other buttons does the director get each mission?

[old widget]

it's pretty complex. the author of the Hazard 6 / 7 mods has some awesome writeups on it

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O2hmVsoaSy2qId4jCWOP_pHMXaoGMWqf_MY7RAs6cxI/edit?usp=sharing discusses each RNG enemy pool variable and what it does

and a list of all the values the game uses for Haz 1 ~ 5.5 can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ygMn4sHAx0jvgRK0qa9LAOIcETnznkh1MtVLgsfu0ik/edit?usp=sharing

(I inquired a while back about why this detailed info isn't in the wiki, apparently it was deemed a little /too/ detailed)

But here's all the RNG elements that the director uses for enemy spawns. The 3 or 4 "chance buckets" for these percents/intervals are RNG'd at the beginning of the level during generation (I think derived from the map seed?), and thus I /think/ they are also the same for everyone in a given DD/EDD map in a given week:

Encounter Wave Strength Encounter Interval in seconds Stationary Enemy Strength Normal Wave Strength Normal Wave Interval in Seconds Enemy Diversity Stationary Enemy Diversity Grunt Veteran Percent Praetorian Veteran Percent Disruptive Enemy Pool Max

[random rampart]

I agree, but also %!s(<nil>)

[woeful scroll]

I had gotten 6 detonators on round 3 of dd

[wraith shard]

Felt

[brave yarrow]

anyone up for EDD?

[hearty mica]

oneshot the dreadnaught in edd with detonator

get rekt by leach

my fucking life

real talk i dont think bosco reacts too well to you get trapped by a leach

its like choking on food and your waiting for your decrepit old gramma to waddle over to you with her walking frame to give you the Heimlich maneuver

[teal cliff]

did you press X to call for his help?

[marble veldt]

For some reason spamming X seems to do the opposite

[teal cliff]

not for me

[marble veldt]

Bosco just stares at the Leech, doing nothing

So I press it once and wait, just to be sure

[hearty mica]

pressing x is an immediate response for me when i get grabbed

[teal cliff]

also the fact that Management drop the refinery on a cocoon in the first stage

[vague sun]

I got Pots o Gold before starting the standard deep dive, netted 2,000+ gold in the end

[wraith shard]

Looking for someone to play deep dive

[hard topaz]

Everyone makes requests when I'm at work... Sadge

[fleet saddle]

I have a newb question - is there a limit to the number of unforged cores we can have?

[jade palm]

Dont think so

[burnt sandal]

nope

[fleet saddle]

ok cool. Ive been short cash and mats since unlocking deep dives and have just let them pile up

[severe obsidian]

i hope the devs are happy with this weeks EDD. its fun, but ridiculously hard.

[burnt sandal]

they are not crafting it by hand so not sure what you mean here

[severe obsidian]

lies, all lies i tell you. that is a madmens work! youre telling me it wasnt them purposefully placing those infectors right next to each other with the hivecombs? madness!

[pearl trout]

Bro this EDD stage 2 is insane, that room is filled with bugs

[smoky gorge]

Yeap it is the hard part of this EDD

[barren girder]

the edd stage 2 this week is do you want to die from 500 exploders or 5 spitballers

[smoky gorge]

Or macteras

I got a lot of macteras it was insane

[barren girder]

don't forget the 3 cave leeches and bulk

[unkempt saffron]

Stage 3 wasnt too bad tbf

But if you arent careful at the start youll drop into the pit quickly

And thats what i did

[smoky gorge]

Lol

[unkempt saffron]

Maybe the only hard part was the odd mule placement at the top

But everything else was close to each other and easy enough to contain

[barren girder]

edd stage 2 is just im fighting for my life

[dark vector]

edd stage 2 took me 6 attempts until we finally beat it. stage 3 is extremely relaxing in comparison

[hard topaz]

In the EDD stage 2 I dug directly to the drop pod and handles the bugs that came my way. Significantly easier

[odd dagger]

jeez that stage 2 was tough. We got wiped by a bulk detonator at the uplink phase

[wraith shard]

Hi! I have recently started the game, and I haven’t found a class I’d like to play. Which one would be the best for SOLO play?

[burnt sandal]

any class tbh

[wraith shard]

I think I like scout the most out of all of them. should I just stick with that?

[burnt sandal]

if you want, yeah

[wraith shard]

@sour thorn

[old widget]

bruh

[wraith shard]

sorry

[barren girder]

what is going on?

[keen ether]

Idk how ppl are saying stage 2 was hard for edd, the edd overall was easier then dd only way exlppders would be a problem is if the gunner or Driller aren't set up for proper aoe. Mastera's and spitball infectors are relatively easy to aslong as have right weapons for the job. Scout and driller and gunners side arms should stop macteras spitballs brood nexus with much ease.

I've run it 3x as gunner and yet to encounter any issues with random groups.

[old widget]

our team of graybeards did fine, but I can see how some groups would struggle. it's a solid mix of all enemy types in difficult terrain with the potential to trigger a lot of extra waves, plus the exploder waves on top of that

[valid mesa]

Can you take people who haven't unlocked deep dives yet with you on a deep dive

[burnt sandal]

no

[valid mesa]

Ok

[mint creek]

in my solo experience, 2 was incredibly tough, while 1 and 3 are jokes

though the mule placement in 3 is really annoying

[lapis lichen]

guys i found a DATA DEPOSIT but i cant interact with it, what do i do?

[leaden cypress]

You should be able to so it spawns a hacking pod

however that has nothing to do with deep dives

[lapis lichen]

i watched a video when he gets close to deposit he can call a hacking pod

which i cant

[leaden cypress]

Then check if the hacking pod hasn't been called before

[burnt sandal]

are you sure it's a data deposit ?

[lapis lichen]

yeah

[burnt sandal]

take a role #welcome-and-rules and send a screenshot of it in #drg-gallery

[proud hornet]

Hit it once then repair

The thing next to or far from data deposit

Station I guess

[lapis lichen]

i couldnt find anything like a station

[burnt sandal]

what does the two UI markers say on your screen btw ?

both are for the pod ?
actually yeah, they are

No idea why you couldn't interact with it

[rocky wind]

where would i go to look for an EDD party? Haven't done one before and don't really want to just boof it

[burnt sandal]

#lfg-steam or any that suit your platform

[lapis lichen]

bugged, prolly

[burnt sandal]

yeah

[teal salmon]

Stage 2 keeps wiping me so far.

[crimson tinsel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/928883991690485780/edd3.jpg

[violet sequoia]

i did the normal deep dive
it was alright though the first stage was painful since i was the engineer and the only other player was a scout so no drilling for the pipes, only platforms

[echo walrus]

stage 2 of elite is so bad

[old widget]

we were messing around during the DD and decided to treat the hiveguard like a haunted cave modifier and not kill it (since it pops at the start this week). interestingly having an active dread on refinery primary means you get no announced swarms, unlike PE primary. once we killed the dread we got our first announced swarm like 15-20 minutes in

[little mortar]

what day does the deep dives refresh?

[crimson tinsel]

Thursday

[jagged pumice]

alright, did the first stage of the elite deep dive, that was... difficult

but really fun!

[burnt sandal]

well done ! If you can make past the stage 2, you're good. Usually stage 2 is the killer one

[jagged pumice]

exploder infestation is going to be tough

stage 2 is the haz 5 one, right?

[vale lintel]

it is

4.5, 5, 5.5

[jagged pumice]

alright well this deep dive is the first time i'm going over haz 4 which is probably not a good idea but hey, at least i got a blank matrix core

[fringe kettle]

Sorta. It’s more complicated than that.

[burnt sandal]

👀

now you gotta explain that

[fringe kettle]

They’ve explained on stream. Because of how everything is generated just saying 4.5-5.5 isn’t a very accurate representation of the difficulty to expect.

[burnt sandal]

alright

thanks

[jagged pumice]

ok i died immediately

[vale lintel]

EDD difficulty explained in a set of four words I guess

[jagged pumice]

so... many... trijaws...

but at least i have another blank matrix core

[vale lintel]

enemy projectile speed increases with hazard level so yeah trijaw are top priority

[unkempt saffron]

You havent seen the trawlers, spitballers, grabbers, and bulks just yet

[jagged pumice]

oh i had to deal with a bulk detonator in the first part

[unkempt saffron]

Youll have to deal with it again in stage 2 and 3 too

[jagged pumice]

and in the last part of the normal deep dive

[vale lintel]

haz 5.5 bulk has decided you are to pay a quarter of your ammo in material compensation for the ecological and psychological damage it will deal

[unkempt saffron]

This weeks edd seems to have an affection at spawning bulks on every stage

[jagged pumice]

alright well i'm going to try the EDD again tomorrow

maybe i'll be able to get further

[unkempt saffron]

Try and play it with others at peak times, and its usually a learning curve, eventually youll find a strat to get past a certain stage

Or get lucky, either or

[hidden forum]

Are you able to get multiple Matrix cores from a deep dive? ie. Running the same deep dive back to back to get more matrix cores

[jagged pumice]

no

that would be too powerful

[burnt sandal]

no, each deep dives gets it's own set of reward, and you have the weekly assignment, and then it's just machine event

rinse and repeat until you get everything

[hidden forum]

okay thank you, didn't want to waste my time figuring out something I could just ask about

[burnt sandal]

if you got questions, most answers are on the wiki usually, not that people on the discord won't answer ofc

The wiki has a lot of details that people won't know about usually

[gusty fern]

Imagine if you could actually get multiple cores from the same deep dive

Everyone would just be speedrunning normal deep dive

[burnt sandal]

yeah

that's why they didn't do that

[kindred vessel]

Just did my first deep dive and wasn’t as hard as I expected it to be

[burnt sandal]

regular deep dives aren't too hard

thankfully

[kindred vessel]

I’ve been grinding this game since I got Covid a few days ago and it’s been nice

[burnt sandal]

the idea, after all, isn't to lock people out of that content completely 😄

[burnt sandal]

I hope you heal fast and well

[stable fable]

So me and a friend just did our first deep dive and we were wondering if we could run it again for more cores

[burnt sandal]

no

#deep-dive-discussion message

[rotund gyro]

What is a deep dive?

[fresh panther]

me and my friend just lost the deep dive because two bulk detonators spawned in the last phase of the recovery mission and we failed because we had to leave the fuel cell zone

[burnt sandal]

https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Dives

[strong dust]

I finished my first one a few hours ago and it was so much harder than I thought it would be

50 minutes on stage 1. Between the random Dreadnought that spawned and the waves of exploders, we barely survived. Thankfully, the Driller carried the hell out of us.

The other Engineer got eaten by a cave leech in the last stage, and I got grabbed and eaten by a second one while I went to revive him.

The Driller got caught by the one that got me, but he broke free. As he was reviving me, he got grabbed by a third cave leech. Thank Karl the dude had the ability to break out of that one too.

[brave hare]

The EDD ?

I did the normal one and i can't remember any leech, maybe the bois where very efficient about those while i was platformin' the area.

[ashen veldt]

What's the best way to share a clip? Should I just upload the thing to youtube or something and share?

I ought to show off a crazy EDD play that my team did earlier tonight

[noble cape]

Youtube or some way to make it smaller. Since discord goes by file size

Something that I want to just put here cause I found it rather funny. Is that in the third map of the regular DD. We had 2 Bulk spawn at once (on top of each other) and then a 3rd later.

[ashen veldt]

https://youtu.be/lswQ0V1ztt4

Take a look

[ashen veldt]

Oh we had that too on the EDD! Critical weakness, I want to say they took each other out

[marble veldt]

Heh, nice

[vague sun]

Sweet

[tulip dune]

Hey um my deep dive timers haven't changed at all, is this a known issue?

[final rivet]

any brave souls can help me for EDD?

[leaden cypress]

Restart the game + steam

[runic bane]

Question on how deep dives work. So it has 3 stages. I get that. Do I have to do all 3 stages without stopping? Can I play stage 1. Go to bed, wake up tomorrow and continue stage 2 and 3? I assume if I fail a stage mission, it'll start all over. But need clarification on the completing side of things.

[stuck swan]

It’s a straight game

I think you could afk in between games

But I’m not sure how your team would feel about that lol

Anybody can press continue anyway

[runic bane]

It's fine. Just wanted to make sure I know what to expect. I only play 1-2 hours on weekdays mostly. Weekends at night, I'll probably dedicate to deep dives.

[stuck swan]

Just treat it as one big mission. Each stage has different objectives but ammo, minerals, health, and stats all crossover.

[runic bane]

Oh wow. Didn't know that part. Cool.

[stuck swan]

There’s also no machine events/robo events

[jolly hazel]

you should get a dd/edd done in 1:15 maximum

if its longer than that either you had refinery, escort, or something went terribly wrong

[compact wing]

I tried EDD with randoms twice and failed on second stage. I tried soloing today and got the mules and killed the dread, then a bulk came and lots of flyers and I ran out of ammo. RIP

It's tough as nails this week

[jolly hazel]

ran out of ammo solo?

what class

[compact wing]

Gunner

I didn't mine much nitra in the big room. Couldn't see any in the limited light

[compact wing]

I didn't really expect to make it though. just wanted to see how far I'd make it solo

[ashen veldt]

The dudes I was playing with said it was one of the easier ones 🥲

I have no concept of deep dive difficulty though, and I know that even with my full squad with comms it was ridiculously hard

[compact wing]

First stage was easy. Last one apparently as well. I haven't done many yet, but last week I did it with randoms and everything went quite fine.

I think stage two with all the macteras and that huge death trap room is what makes it most difficult

[jolly hazel]

it is comparatively easy compared to some pretty bad combinations late last year

but ya stage 2

is the tough one

[outer beacon]

Yeah, though it's understandable for it to be hard if you're not used to the rythm of Haz4 or 5.

[jolly hazel]

too much shit in that room

[outer beacon]

Stage 2 nearly kicked my ass but our Driller and Gunner carried the fuck out of us, then stage 3 was a breeze in comparison.

[jolly hazel]

I think if they are not used to the rhythm of 4 they shouldn't do an edd with randoms

ya stage 3 is simple

[hard topaz]

This week's elite dive is quite unforgiving

[compact wing]

I play almost always haz 4, sometimes haz 5, but I stopped because of unpromoted greenbeards who are joining haz 5. In 4 they can manage if they just survive and I can carry if need be. I'm not good enough to carry in haz 5.

[jolly hazel]

ya I dont vet lobbies or have any requirements like promo

but I'd be lying if I didn't say it was frustrating to have to lug deadweight

[compact wing]

I don't either because i think unpromoted lvl 20 can do just fine in haz 4. But seeing level 3 enter them and obviously messing up is annoying.

[ashen veldt]

Huh, maybe they were just making sure I didn't panic 😄

[jolly hazel]

id rather be prepared than waltz into death

[placid crane]

I remember a year ago there was an EDD in fungus bogs that took me almost 90 minutes to complete, 60 in a single stage of salvage

[jolly hazel]

how

[placid crane]

It was before they removed crassus

[jolly hazel]

oh

[placid crane]

and there were also like 2-3 bulks during both uplink/fuel cells

It was so long ago I don't remember what it was called, maybe there's an archive for all deep dives?

[wraith shard]

what’s the recommended amount of players for a deep dive

[placid crane]

4, but you can do them on 3, 2, and solo for different experiences/better results sometimes

[burnt sandal]

there's none, just play whatever

[wraith shard]

aight

[placid crane]

^ this too

[burnt sandal]

the game scale with player number

[wraith shard]

I have 2 friends who play with me

one of them is super low level too

tho

[placid crane]

[burnt sandal]

keep in mind they need to have a promoted dwarf to join, and use that specific dwarf

[wraith shard]

yeah ik

[ashen veldt]

I honestly liked this E deep dive. Stage 1 felt like a practice run and let everyone get comfy.
Stage 2 was a whole ass stress test. 3 or 4 bulk dets (or satchel charges, as my team has come to use them) and a dreadnought. Plus of course a whole lot of exploders which were a periodic struggle.
Stage 3 was a pain only because of the cave leeches. Our scout got grabbed and we ended up using 3/4 of our iron wills and just barely regrouping. Critical weakness makes comebacks easy though

[wraith shard]

I’m currently level 21

my other friend is like 19

one of them is like 10

so we are close to promotion

[jolly hazel]

it will

be tough

wait

reg dd u are fine

[ashen veldt]

You can try regular deep dives as soon as you're eligible. The capstone upgrades in each slot are great, just know what your role is and how you're going to deal with crowds, big guys, and more specific things

You should also be optimizing your builds and perks a bit

[placid crane]

it might've been either the week of january 23rd or january 30th 2020

[jolly hazel]

old

[placid crane]

both were fungus bogs w/ stage 2 being salvage

[wise nebula]

how does scout deal with crowds?

[jolly hazel]

he doesn't

[placid crane]

throw nade and pray

[jolly hazel]

its other classes responsibility

unless u have cryo+bouncy balls

on drak

[wraith shard]

how do I get the extra perk slots bro

[jolly hazel]

promo

[ashen veldt]

Honestly @wraith shard you can PM me if you want and I'll see if I can help at all in a bit. There's a handful of things

[jolly hazel]

also

if scout ends up having to deal with swarms

just kite them towards your other friends

do not stand and fight with scout

[wise nebula]

which nade?

[jolly hazel]

cryo

[placid crane]

cryo or IFG

your pick

[wise nebula]

hit level 25 on the dwarf and promote.

[jolly hazel]

cryo has more utility imo

because it insta kills fliers

[wise nebula]

ah, which class is better to solo deep dives with then? (in the event no one joins, when I launch it.)

[placid crane]

cryo if you really hate mactera/your driller using cryo on dread
IFG for anything else

[jolly hazel]

genuinely down to personal preference

[wise nebula]

thanks.

[placid crane]

cryo is great on this week's EDD tho

[jolly hazel]

also down to mission types

[wise nebula]

I thought we just established scout being bad at swarms tho? which is like alot of the deep dives.

[jolly hazel]

yeah?

[ashen veldt]

Depends what your build is. My scouts and scouts I play with tend to be on revive duty and support fire. I'd take thorns so smaller bugs don't pile up while you're running away. When cornered the shotty and the deepcore are good options. Cryos work wonders too

[jolly hazel]

there's less bugs

[wise nebula]

ooh, how come?

[jolly hazel]

solo

you can actually deal with a swarm solo scout

[wise nebula]

Ah,

[jolly hazel]

just aim good

[placid crane]

generally just for self-defense, had alot of mactera in one stage

[weary vortex]

Am I bad for liking the flamethrower more than the freeze gun?

[placid crane]

it's great for if you're in a tight spot

[ashen veldt]

You get your second active perk slot after your promotion in a specific class. Your third passive perk is a universal unlock, and you get it further in the perk unlock tree

[jolly hazel]

sticky flames build is pretty good for stand and fight mossions

[placid crane]

cryo is great for getting you out of sticky situations
IFG is great for when you have the drop on a swarm

[jolly hazel]

like escort and salvage

scout nades work best with teammate coordination

[placid crane]

yep

[jolly hazel]

but removing a breeder from a fight instantly is very useful

with cryo

[weary vortex]

IFG is the third weapon? I haven't unlocked it yet. Just testing out the ice gun now.

[jolly hazel]

ifg is scout nade

[ashen veldt]

Cryo is generally much better utility and performance imo, but sticky flames can be great

[wraith shard]

wym by a universal unlock

[weary vortex]

Oh

[jolly hazel]

sludge pump is 3rd driller

gun

[ashen veldt]

As in not class specific

[weary vortex]

I never see people talk about the sludge pump.

[jolly hazel]

ya cryo+gunner equals dead swarm

[keen ether]

I'd help with dd or edd if I see it on the screen list to join after you dm on discord. I prefer to run my gunner with NtP and Brt with either unstable

[jolly hazel]

its mediocre

imo

[keen ether]

Already run both 3x this week to help community

[jolly hazel]

sticky flames does its job more ammo efficiently

[burnt sandal]

it's okay to be wrong

[jolly hazel]

I mean I can still top score with it

its just awkward

[ashen veldt]

Or carpet bomber gunner

[jolly hazel]

the best use of sludge pump is stacking slows on dreads

which means 1 minute dread

[wraith shard]

so you get the 2nd passive perk slot by just going through the perk tree and the 2nd active perk slot by promotion

right?

[jolly hazel]

yes

u get a 3rd

tok

[burnt sandal]

the 3rd passive slot is in the tree too

[jolly hazel]

too

[keen ether]

I've never made the cryo cannon got all the clocks for it too. Just watching others use it felt flames were just better overall

[jolly hazel]

at the end

[wraith shard]

ok then

[jolly hazel]

use tuned cooler

meta driller

[burnt sandal]

different gun, different purpose

Flamer is more damage oriented, cryo is more CC oriented

[weary vortex]

I just got my first Overclock and it's Carpet Bomber. Buuuut I'm a Driller. Time to swap characters?

[jolly hazel]

carpet bomber is my favorite gunner oc

led to 1k kills on edd

[burnt sandal]

you don't have to but it's always nice to try out stuff for yourself

[jolly hazel]

(I farmed two swarmer tunnels)

[marble veldt]

With a whole lot of practice and a heck of an aggressive playstyle

[keen ether]

See for aoe dmg I use flamethrower for aoe cc effects I use goop gun with more bubbles think 18 total or somthn +extra slow effects for driller dmg I use the sludge gun mod. I still have yet to find a mod that allows so much direct dreadnought dmg.

[jolly hazel]

deepcore is ass for swarm clear imo

have to go with plasma gun

[keen ether]

Can do full dmg to anywhere on the beasties with the corrosive pump sludge gun mod its nice

[burnt sandal]

Sludge blast OC is good for dread

[marble veldt]

Depends how you build it but yeah, Drak is arguably more suited to swarm clear

[jolly hazel]

I've been using goo bomber

[keen ether]

Oh my bad sludge blast

[weary vortex]

I need to try the sludge gun.

[jolly hazel]

does sludge blast cover better?

[burnt sandal]

well yeah, it's not really made for that purpose

[burnt sandal]

goo bomber ain't good for dread

[jolly hazel]

ya well its in a shitty middle ground between m1k and drak

[burnt sandal]

if you're looking for damage at least

[jolly hazel]

Oh

I'm just looking for the slow lol

[keen ether]

Sludge blast on dreads is op all my other classes still need to usually attack the backside but sludge blast does 300+ direct dmg anywhere on the body

[burnt sandal]

then yeah it's decent I guess

[jolly hazel]

make it easier for my headless chicken teammates

to avoid the dread

[marble veldt]

*240 max

Still good but don't get your hopes up too much

VIM is a bit more versatile imo, on top of dealing pretty decent damage

[jolly hazel]

how do u feel about hipster vs bouncy ball+splash drak

I couldn't get hipster to match drak output

[marble veldt]

I prefer Hipster

[jolly hazel]

rly?

damn

[keen ether]

Idk could've sworn was atleast 300 but prob wrong still 240 and if you have it so can fire off more shots faster and extended mags can easily take out the dreadnaughts solo or with teammates. 1 clip takes out the Armour and good chunk of health of classic dreadnaught

[marble veldt]

Bouncy Drak really isn't my cup of tea

[jolly hazel]

do you use blowthrough rounds

[marble veldt]

No, Hollow Point

[jolly hazel]

hmm ok

[marble veldt]

I'm a "one tap" kinda guy

[jolly hazel]

my game dips below 60fps too often to aim reliably lol

*into 30 fps

[marble veldt]

Fair enough

[marble veldt]

You're preaching to the choir

But then again I still prefer VIM

[jolly hazel]

which one is vim again

[keen ether]

I joined a 3x hunt last nite to test the new brt mod I got and immediately regretted my choice. Misson time was prob 3x longer. Didn't help that all 3 randoms weren't built for killing hazard 4 dreads

[marble veldt]

Volatile Impact Mixture
+10 normal shot damage ; +20 charged shot damage
0.75× Corrosive DoT duration and 0.75× Puddle duration

Thing is, if built accordingly, you get charged shots with 95 damage, 2.5m AOE radius

It basically turns the Sludge Pump into a grenade Launcher with Slow and DoT

And it one taps grunts on any hazards

[jolly hazel]

ooh

I think I have that one unlocked

do u have the build on ur karl.gg

[marble veldt]

Nah but I can give it to you

I use 11212

[jolly hazel]

if u dont mind

ok

[marble veldt]

And I just spam Charged Shots

[wraith shard]

bro I’m on the perk tree how do I even get another perk slot

[jolly hazel]

oh right

I was using that!

with the normal shot bonuses

im pretty sure it one shots a grunt

I'll try out the charged shot version

[marble veldt]

It still does even without the normal shot bonus

[jolly hazel]

ooh

[wraith shard]

I need

[keen ether]

So hod do u get 240 I'm doing the math right now in-game highest I can get on sludgeblast is 220

[marble veldt]

But you gotta hit them with the AOE part AND the direct hit from normal shots

[wraith shard]

serious assistance

[jolly hazel]

with

[wraith shard]

how to get new perk slots

I’m on the perk page

[jolly hazel]

there's one about midway through and one near the end of the tree

[marble veldt]

30 charged shot damage (T2A) × 8 fragments
20 charged shot damage × 12 fragments (T2B)

[jolly hazel]

on the perk unlock page

[keen ether]

You need to be clearing mission to unlock achievements that reward you with perk stars to then unlock said perk slots

[jolly hazel]

^

[wraith shard]

I have been

I’ll post my perk page in the gallery hold on

[keen ether]

It will take awhile to reach having 3 passive perks. Takes atleast a good week of playing solid. It's will be one the last perks to unlock at the very end of the page.

[wraith shard]

yeah but like

[keen ether]

New passive perk 1 is on same page as berserk 1 and passive perk 2 is on last page with deep pockets 3

[hard topaz]

Before I start spreading rumors to my friends new at the game, I think I remember reading somewhere on the wiki that armor breaking doesn't work with a lot of weapon modifiers (like armor breaking on the m1000). Is that still true?

[burnt sandal]

armor breaking is currently bugged on some weapons, yes

[hard topaz]

Okay, which ones would that be? I can't find the page again

[burnt sandal]

just assume all of them, it'll make things easier, I don't think the bugs are listed on the wiki

hopefully it get fixed when season 2 arrives

[jolly hazel]

it works on breach cutter

[neon lintel]

whats the best driller weapon

[hard topaz]

Depends on the mission type.

Crisper is a safe option for all mission types.

[marble veldt]

https://ghostshipgames.atlassian.net/browse/DRG-4852

[hard topaz]

Thank you!

[hard topaz]

I'm curious to try "see you in hell" + berserker in deep dives. See you in hell gives you a damage boost with your pickaxe, berserker makes the slam attack recharge faster. Combo that with vampire to make a melee build

[zinc socket]

Wow...

So, I started this week's deep dive.

you think the pumpjack landed there on purpose?

[hard topaz]

The devs don't decide it. It's randomly generated

[jolly hazel]

you are giving up dash/iron will/field medic

[zinc socket]

bah

I'm sure that at least some of the deep dives are currated

[jolly hazel]

they arent

[zinc socket]

that somebody finds a really strange seed on a stream, and we get it as a deep dive

There's been too many intersting things that happened in deep dives that none of them were intentional.

[jolly hazel]

I mean

the combination of a refining mission cave(no max complexity caves in edd) plus the huge hitboxes of a dreadnought cocoon egg which often spawns on walls and the minehead/refinery

(the dreadnought egg has to spawn somewhere instead of inside of the usual dreadnought mission spawn caves)

idk what stream you are talking about but the only way an egg can get hit by a minehead/refinery is in a edd/dd

because of the objective combination

[zinc socket]

there's an underlaying "hotspot" setup too isn't there? Items of interst are in hotspots?

[old widget]

yeah. you're just seeing the beauty of DRG cavegen. no curation / cherry picking

[jolly hazel]

what do u mean

the same static spawns

[zinc socket]

That's why for a while you where getting overlapping generation.

[jolly hazel]

usually occur in the same areas

if the player count is the same

[zinc socket]

Two random events spawning on the exact same pixel

[pearl trout]

I'm new on ps5, is this elite deep dive harder than the usual? I have 0 issues in the first part then the 2nd I go completely fine until the battery and I get surrounded even tho I have Betsy, Bosco, my turret, mines and myself shooting like crazy

[zinc socket]

or the drop pod "event" on the same pixel as an existing event

[pearl trout]

Or maybe I'm just shit and this is the way the game is letting me know

The uplink is easy, but the battery is fucking me up

[jolly hazel]

are you using bug repellent platforms

[pearl trout]

Yes, on the back

And not stepping on them

[jolly hazel]

hmmm

idk if ps5 has autoaim

[pearl trout]

Using mouse and keyboard, usually not missing

[jolly hazel]

keyboard and mouse on ps5?

[pearl trout]

Yeah was playing ff14 before getting into drg, so I had my m&k connected

They work really well

[jolly hazel]

I didnt even know ff14 was on consoles lol

how you described it sounds like killy issue

idk where the battery spawns on solo edd

[pearl trout]

It just feels like double the wave compare to the uplink

[jolly hazel]

it was in a shitty spot below an overhang on 4 man

shouldn't be

I like lure

to draw aggro

[pearl trout]

I even clear the rocks so I have more space

Maybe I'm just shit, kinda tiresome to fail so many times, might wait for next week

[jolly hazel]

how new are you?

with experience comes skill

usually

lol

[pearl trout]

Less than a week

[jolly hazel]

whenever I see the ground rumble from a spawn during uplink/fuel pod

I just pre emltively aim pgl or breach

and shoot if I see grunts

its just a "kill them before they get to you" problem

cuz u can't kite

well

if u are getting through most of an edd after less than a week

consider yourself precocious

[pearl trout]

But if you have to rate this one on difficulty

Is it harder than usual?

[jolly hazel]

id say

average?

[smoky gorge]

This week is an easy one

[jolly hazel]

this week I see people having trouble but others having no problems

could be newer players having trouble

and asking more questions

but

there have been much harder edds

[smoky gorge]

But yeah the second stage is hard you need to proceed carefully

[jolly hazel]

^

don't split

[pearl trout]

Playing solo tho

[jolly hazel]

don't split with bosco

2nd stage has a few leeches

but once again

solo spawns for static enemies are different

[leaden cypress]

Where is the V bosco gif

[jolly hazel]

there was no bet c for me

on stage 2

with 4

[pearl trout]

Leaches are no issue

[leaden cypress]

ye

[pearl trout]

I might try tomorrow again

[leaden cypress]

It's a single room filled with them

[smoky gorge]

There is no bet c on this edd

[pearl trout]

Or with a partner

[jolly hazel]

he said there's a bet c

[pearl trout]

Betc seems to spawn in solo

[jolly hazel]

might be solo only?

[pearl trout]

Is it bait to get it?

Looks like it's doing stuff

But not sure

[jolly hazel]

it might get in ur way

or push you

[smoky gorge]

No i just think he did a mistake

[jolly hazel]

did u do it solo

[pearl trout]

Yes

[smoky gorge]

Me?

[jolly hazel]

yes

[smoky gorge]

Solo and with 4 players

[jolly hazel]

and no bet c?

[smoky gorge]

And never had a BET-C

[jolly hazel]

[pearl trout]

Can send a pic

[jolly hazel]

well this is weird

[pearl trout]

It always spawn on the same spot

[random rampart]

i mean, what stops you lol

[pearl trout]

Getting to the 2nd stage again

[wraith shard]

Stage 2 is impossible

Its really hard

[pearl trout]

@random rampart @smoky gorge

Can't add a file lel

[smoky gorge]

You need to take a role

In the welcome channel

[random rampart]

this

#welcome-and-rules

@pearl trout

[pearl trout]

I reacted to both posts and still nothing

https://imgur.com/VH6eOch

https://imgur.com/o1mn9wc

Used imgur

You can see betc on the back

Can get a better picture when I get down

[smoky gorge]

Yeah idk what is this thing

Maybe on PS version of EDD there is a BET-C, since the PC and console version are a bit different for deep dives

[pearl trout]

Got the perfect pic and I died

https://imgur.com/a/JvBV49D

Then it might be something crazy with the waves

[jolly hazel]

thats rly weird

cuz I recognize that cave from the pc edd