deep-dive-discussion

[atomic prawn]

yeah

[spice mortar]

same for the agressive plant thingy

[atomic prawn]

the angry salad

[spice mortar]

angry salad is a nice description im gonna use that from now on

[atomic prawn]

the mutators for this week's edd seems like a pain in the ass

[tardy pier]

yeah I cursed so much every stage

[atomic prawn]

which means i should hit the record button this edd

[crimson tinsel]

OG dread pickaxes only let’s do this

[obtuse pasture]

did it at haz1 once for giggle.. with a skull crusher ale to speed up the process. .was not fast

[crimson tinsel]

That Dread probably had the energy of an overweight dad trying to stop their three year old from hitting them with a plastic bat

[obtuse pasture]

i think bosco did most of the damage to be honest

except for the powerslams.. pretty much that was it

[lusty stratus]

black box with shield disruption on last stage edd

suffering

[hushed ether]

use repellent it may lower the difficulty

[waxen terrace]

Make a bunkie

[floral meteor]

More leeches on day 2 of reg DD than day 3 with leech infestation

[waxen terrace]

More sploders in stage 2 and 3 edd than sploder infestations

[bleak tusk]

I have a stupid question. Are deep dives only giving rewards once per player or once per character

(sorry if not right channel)

[old widget]

Once per “player”. Running it again with a different dwarf won’t get you more rewards

[vast crag]

In the recent EDD

Did you guys notice that the Point Extraction part already had unli bugs flowing

Not even 20 min had passed

[old widget]

Haz 5 PE is pretty much always nonstop mini waves broken up by announced swarms

Coupled with the ever present PE welcome party as you step out of the pod, it’s nonstop shootin’

If you clear the mini waves fast you can get a little peace I guess

[floral meteor]

Successfully finished stage 2 of EDD

Solo.

Black box, aquarqs and shield disruption. As the scout. I doubt I'll make it through

[floral meteor]

Yeah that didn't go well.

I don't even know how you'd do that with 4 players.

Had at least 100+ grunts alone as soon as I started the black box

[silent sigil]

So I got to legacy 5, just starting out.

Finished all the mission unlock assignments.

Starting to bump the hazard level up to 3 just because. I got a mining exo, with 3 complexity and length

Ive been playing solo. I managed to come across a detonator and a korlock in the same room

[twin sedge]

does no one do public deep dives??? lol

[crimson tinsel]

My Carpet Bomber is drooling

[rain salmon]

Man, deep dives are hard

[twin sedge]

i've done one, had a good time

[rain salmon]

I’m tryna do it solo since I can’t find a group to join

It hard

[twin sedge]

LOL brave

[rain salmon]

I got 2 layers deep but gave up on the 3rd

[ivory cypress]

How’s nitra in the EDD

[small hare]

usually pretty good, but first 1-2 could be painful

there are ppl in #lfg-steam doing EDDs at times

[floral meteor]

@silent sigil add another bulk det, a BETC, in magma core, with 4 volcanoes and crap shooting from the ground.

And I was playing with a newbie on his lvl 18 scout.

That was fun. Thank God I was on gunner

[crisp hazel]

Where do I find the EDD's mods?

For the week

[neon apex]

Nukes go boom

[small hare]

its on the pinned messages here

[crisp hazel]

Thanks

[silent sigil]

Sounds like busy work

[stuck moth]

The dd was extremely easy. We barely used any supply. As about edd, a little more tricky at the end (2nd and 3rd stage) but wasn't hard too.

Cmon devs give us a nightmare edd so we get something to cry about in here!

[regal gulch]

what in your opinion makes a greenbeard a talented one?

[balmy ore]

idk

saw people recommend executioner OC but it seems kind of a hastle to use, especially against wardens

[sweet falcon]

We used all of the supply on DD

on the last mission, there were 8 supply drops

7 of them still had ammo left 😉

[tidal spruce]

i burned through 600 nitra worth of supply drops as driller and made 2 things: a pit, and a wall of axes

very fun

[chrome quiver]

Based

[dark vector]

manages to quadruple dip every resupply

[glossy marlin]

EDD this week is incredibly ez sauce, and one of the best illustrations of why we need haz 6 sooner rather than later

the difficulty calibration in the game does not account for the actual skill ceiling of the players as it currently exists

[hushed sequoia]

there is difficulty mods and enemy cap multiplier mods but i doubt a higher haz will be added

[scenic star]

On a long enough timescale they'd serve themselves well by adding a new haz or two

But their game will do well enough

So it's not tremendously important

[humble sparrow]

Pretty sure higher Haz would result in players being spread out even more than already with Haz 4-5

[old widget]

Yeah if you find Haz5 boring that’s what mods are for. Several folks in here run EDDs with extra enemies for example

[crimson tinsel]

For when Triple Atomic wings are bland to you and crapping fire is yesterday's news

[crimson tinsel]

That's when you bring it with Hyperprop grenade launcher to one shot them

[shadow shoal]

Had a fairly clean edd, failed it though kuz for black box our engi decided to have a roof shorter than a dwarf

[glossy marlin]

I am sorry but the excuse "mods are for higher difficulty" does not fly with reasonable people

today I finished a length 2 escort with 3 resupplies left over on Haz 5

that should not happen

(like 240 nitra)

the last 5-6 weeks of EDD have been a joke, again mostly because the overabundance of nitra is there

[atomic prawn]

wat

very reasonable to speak for all reasonable people 😂

like, with a good team, i always finish with tons of nitra to spare, same can be said of any mission with the same team

[placid crane]

every single mission has nitra

sometimes an abundance

[glossy marlin]

I am sorry, why are we making excuses for objectively poor game balance by a company now worth hundreds of millions of dollars

if something with the game does not work, it is not the job of the modders to fix it

and only a fraction of the users would get to experience the fix

[atomic prawn]

hundreds of millions of dollars? 😂

[glossy marlin]

glad you asked

[atomic prawn]

ngl, i can't be fucked continuing this convo

[glossy marlin]

3 million copies at $30 + all the cosmetics + the xbox deal is easily worth upwards of $80 mil

so the company is probably worth at least 2-3x that

@atomic prawn what is the argument for the hardest difficulty in the game being... easy

like in a reasonably balanced game Haz 5 would be "normal" difficulty

[placid crane]

game is reasonably balanced

there i took the bait for you maple

[glossy marlin]

@placid crane so what do you make of people like me who suck at shooters but still find the game at haz 5 to be incredibly straightforward? vs the people on Reddit and here hardstuck on Haz 3 or Haz 4?

[severe tusk]

EDDs aren't easy for 95+% of the player base. Mods can cater to the uber elite by providing ways to make the game more challenging. It's not a great use of the developer's time to make content that only a very small percent of the player base will be able to beat.

[glossy marlin]

@severe tusk so the devs should make a better difficulty pipeline for the 95%+ who find the game difficult... like I met a driller today who did not know how to blow vents on Magma core up and another driller who did not know that the flamethrower was piercing damage to the OG dread and didn't need to chase its ass to do damage to it... both with bronze 2 promos

[placid crane]

I play both hazard 4 and 5, primarily solo, 33% of the time w/ duos or 4 player groups with a friend group I have. I enjoy the game simply not by its difficulty, but by the random generation/charm/nature of the game. Perhaps you just might be better than some players, that's all we can say. /shrug

[severe tusk]

I have played over 900 hours, and I still learn new things about the game frequently. There's a lot to know. Some (or even most) people don't even care about learning all of the finer details of how everything works and instead just want to play the game and have fun.

[carmine badge]

that black box on the last stage of the EDD has just beaten me up.. what a nightmare

[glossy marlin]

Tell your driller to expand the area and the engineer to make a ceiling; if the bugs can only come from one choke, they are weak

[unkempt saffron]

Could bunkering work for the black box on edd?

[placid crane]

when i did the edd w/ a friend, i was engineer and i just made a ceiling in 30 seconds

[carmine badge]

ya, we definitely didn't prepare quite right. will be looking forward to the next attempt

[placid crane]

he was scout, and spammed cryo nades when needed

[glossy marlin]

Also the usual applies on point extraction, you want to. I’ve quick

If you wait until after the second wave, you are moving too slow

[placid crane]

yeah you generally want to try the black box almost instantly

otherwise you risk larger swarms

[glossy marlin]

Deathless only has a point in solo where you are the only factor. In group games where there is no permadeaths, you can go down because of someone else’s error

[crimson tinsel]

Just don’t use your guns.

Pickaxes only

[covert briar]

thorns perk only

[crimson tinsel]

Ice vents only

[ruby pine]

what is this weeks elite deep dive?

[crimson tinsel]

Check the pin

[wraith shard]

i will keep saying it:The devs need to find a way to make bunkering obsolete or atleast make it more interesting than just sitting still shooting at a hole

make more enemies that counter bunkering

[old widget]

#drg-chat

[radiant obsidian]

bunkering isn't that effective and not that many people do it in my experience. I like that it's an option though.

[crimson tinsel]

Bunkering during a Dive is wasting time.

[leaden cypress]

Allowing praets to dig ?

[mental scroll]

i just joined a full elite deep dive from the start, but didnt get any completions or cores at the end?

what gives?

still says 1/3 stages, the 1 stage i did earlier alone

[elder venture]

idk you ask me

[old widget]

Screenshot? Also, did you check the forge to see if you have new stuff?

[mental scroll]

nothing new in the forge, no timer set on the edd

cant ss cause id long left the lobby

[vale lintel]

just let grunts burrow towards you if they can't reach you without going really far, it's that easy

[fallow niche]

always see talk of bunkering but i cant even remember the last time i've seen anyone actually do it

[vale lintel]

bunkering is a really neat concept and is done badly by those few who would do it, and also not very useful except for in select situations

the only really good time to bunker is high hazard mactera plague defense objectives

other bunkers are redundant

[main birch]

What does it mean by 1 black box for the EDD

[fallow niche]

it's an objective similar to salvage operation's uplink; you find the little device and stand within the radius until the bar fills

[marble veldt]

You cannot fail it btw

Unless you die of course

Stepping outside of the triangulation zone for too long only resets the Blackbox, it doesn't fail the mission

[vale lintel]

wish Mission Control would say that so people remember

[fallow niche]

yeah, i found out you could try it multiple times a few weeks back when a bulk showed up to say hi in the puny tunnel the black box was in and i decided to leave

it makes sense, anyway; failing a deep dive at/near the end because of a secondary objective would be a serious kick in the dick

[marble veldt]

Black Box radius is also larger than Uplink/Fuel Rods

[fallow niche]

oh? neat. thought it was roughly the same

[marble veldt]

I'd say it's roughly 1m larger

[tall meadow]

the placement of the black box this EDD is also quite fine

[steep cloud]

It's not great, you can get backed into a corner real easy

Easy to wipe if you lose the choke

[humble sparrow]

Gunner shields made the black box a hell of a lot more possible solo

[grizzled wedge]

honest question, what is the significance of unions?

[old widget]

it's completely insignificant. just a fun way to earn some extra mats/credits
(also, general game questions are better suited to #drg-chat)

[grizzled wedge]

thank you 😄

been playing for 35 hours (this week) and just now found out about it

[old widget]

It can be a bit buggy to join and use. Rumor has it that the dev who coded most of it isn't working on it anymore (or maybe not even at GSG anymore). But it does work for most folks if you jump through all the hoops in the pinned messages in #interplanetary-miners-union

[dusty junco]

that last stage elim hit different

[grizzled wedge]

well thank you. i used to play the game on windows (via game pass) about a year ago. Just bought the steam version and started over. so much new great content!

[old widget]

Welcome (back), new miner!

[crimson tinsel]

I stopped playing for over a year and when I came back, I had no idea what the dives or overclocks were lol

Definitely was a lot of learning

[floral meteor]

What

[marble veldt]

Yup

[floral meteor]

That would've been nice to know.

[marble veldt]

I explained it underneath my original reply

[floral meteor]

Like

Two years ago

[marble veldt]

Well now you know lol

[pastel canyon]

What is the difference between Deep Dives and regular Missions?

[dim gorge]

Deep Dives is three missions back to back where you keep your health, ammo and resources between stages. Also secondary objectives are either another primary or part of it

[obtuse pasture]

And they go DEEP

[old widget]

In addition to what folks have said here:

https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Dives

[pastel canyon]

Sounds cool. Can't wait to unlock em

[queen sable]

Yee just completed my first one today

[wraith shard]

guys do the already completed Deep Dives give you the same prizes?

[obtuse pasture]

nope

you get the rewards once per week for the DD and again for the EDD .. on first completion.

[wraith shard]

ok thanks

[brave yarrow]

do you have unlimited tries of deep dives? I'm not super experienced, should I jump in blindly or should I know a few things before trying?

[random rampart]

you do

the rewards are the limited ones

[brave yarrow]

you mean that there's only a number of rewards you can get from there and then you're kind of done with it?

[random rampart]

yes.

theres 3 rewards per deep dive: 1 blank matrix core for the 1st mission, 1 weapon overclock and 1 cosmetic overclock

and you can only get 1 of those per week

same applies for elite deep dives and weekly assignments

[brave yarrow]

ah ok

so one once per week

and you need to do 3 missions in a row?

[random rampart]

you can finish the 1st mission and die in the 2nd

the 1st mission's rewards will be given anyways

[brave yarrow]

OK thanks

[odd comet]

Aye, three missions back-to-back. Your ammo and gold/nitra carry over between missions

And yes, if you fail on the second or third stage, you still get the rewards from the ones you've completed, but you can only get each reward once per Deep Dive, so no gaming the system and repeatedly failing or running dives for multiple sets of cores

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[crimson tinsel]

Who keeps telling Mission Control these lies?!

[frail sorrel]

D00d, that elite deep dive SUCKED

that was a best-of-the-worst awful mutators for that

[crimson tinsel]

Stage 2 gave us a few issues but Stage 3 zipped by for us

[frail sorrel]

We choked last second and couldn't call for the pod and send the minehead off before we died. We only finished the black box because I sealed the gunner and driller in a pit with the box while me and scout ran around like headless chickens above drawing as many bugs as we could away from them

and it freaking worked

thats the most frustrating part

For a team of 4 random dwarves, we did our damndest to do it, and we were just |this| close to getting it

[crimson tinsel]

You still got the first two cores

[frail sorrel]

I wasn't super bent over it though, yeah

Just missing out on one cosmetic core. It ain't the end of Hoxxes

[crimson tinsel]

The most bent I ever got was when I was standing in the pod on a Stage 3 and lost internet for a minute

[frail sorrel]

Aw, ouch

[crimson tinsel]

Need a gif of that scene from the movie 1408

”I WAS OOOOUUUT!”

[frail sorrel]

But like legit, the mutators on the EDD are just like the best of the worst and most frustrating mutators

What hurts even more is I walked in blind this week, and we were discussing the worst mutators as I said I hate low O2 at the start and we talked about how shield dis is the worst

lo and behold, we were goddamn soothsayers without even knowing it

[crimson tinsel]

O2 is fine on Dread missions

Not much traveling

[frail sorrel]

Yeah, its not terrible there

But I dislike things that limit how I'm able to traverse in general

As a former scout main, I can attest to the fact I gotta go everywhere

[random rampart]

i do
bc i cant do them atm

[crimson tinsel]

Watching people play O2 for the first time is always a treat

[frail sorrel]

Oh, isn't it just

I remember I had a team of first timers, I swear to you, they all combined had at least 20+ downs between the 3 of them while I only had like 2-3

They were screaming "HOW DO I BREATHE" in the chat and I was dying in my chair, it was beautiful

[ruby lotus]

New to DD
Can I join a team mid game?

[frail sorrel]

Nope

Late joining isn't permitted for a deep dive

[ruby lotus]

Not even first stage?

[frail sorrel]

So if you join one, you have to do so before it starts

Nope

[ruby lotus]

Aight

[warm imp]

9 mins into solo EDD

Ice spikes in the first stage highkey made dreadnought fight so much easier

[zealous pond]

both times I tried it the idiot engineer (two different players) decided he'd shoot them all down before the fight started

[split marlin]

well if it falls on you that's a bad thing too
if

[old widget]

I always shoot them down ASAP, find them more of a liability/distraction than an aid

but if you have the timing to hit a dread with 'em, go you

[primal moth]

I’m thinking of getting into deep dives since I’ve never really done them, I play hazard three always so idk if my skill level will be high enough

[crimson tinsel]

Probably better to use them if you’re Solo since you don’t have to worry about hitting friendlies or having friendlies accidentally drop them on you by using splash damage weapons. Best to either communicate if you’re with friends or just shoot them down to avoid issue.

If you have little issue with Haz3 then the normal Deep Dives should feel fine.

[primal moth]

Ok awesome, how long do they usually take?

[crimson tinsel]

They scale Haz 3-3.5-3.5 by stage

Depends entirely on the three stages

Usually around 40-50 mins but some are shorter or longer

[primal moth]

Ok thanks

Sadly the friend I would do them with never has any time so that’s why i haven’t been able to

[crimson tinsel]

I only ever played with a friend once. Always with fandoms the rest of the time

As long as you communicate if you want something, you should be fine

[primal moth]

Ok great

Also do you have any tips for driller? I’m pretty good with him id say but incase I’m missing something i wanna know

[crimson tinsel]

Get used to Haz 4 and then work with 5. The Elite Dives scale Haz 4.5-5-5.5 but tend to be slightly easier than a full length normal Haz 5 mission.

[primal moth]

Ok

[crimson tinsel]

Driller is mostly just knowing what others expect Drillers to do on certain missions

[primal moth]

Like making bunkers and drilling b-lines to drop pod etc.

[crimson tinsel]

Clear areas to fight when you need to stay in one spot

Bunkers are undesirable for most higher level players

[primal moth]

Good to know, why exactly?

[crimson tinsel]

They’re fun to mess around with and roleplay with but they take up time, resources and can get teams killed in seconds of they’re unlucky.

[primal moth]

Ok then

So what would be better to doc

*do?

[crimson tinsel]

A bulk might spawn inside there with everyone and take them all out before they can escape

[primal moth]

Ah I see

[crimson tinsel]

Best is to just clear the area, have the engie set up repellent plats, make sure everyone is ready and then go for it. On higher hazards, time is a factor and you want to get things done quickly while using the least amount of ammo per objective

[primal moth]

Great to know thanks

[crimson tinsel]

Np

[primal moth]

Also what’s a good build to use on the epc with implosion I mainly just have random upgrades and I’m not sure if I should be doing something different

[crimson tinsel]

EDD Point Extractions missions are basically speedrunning because of how quickly things get out of control thanks to the constant swarms

[primal moth]

Implosion mining is super useful though

[primal moth]

Ah

[crimson tinsel]

I use the one clean OC that makes the charge shot super speedy

[primal moth]

I have that too yeah

[crimson tinsel]

I also find that using the sludge pump with Disperser Compound pairs well with the EPC implosions charge. Slow a bunch of bugs and then implode a charge right over them.

[primal moth]

Yeah

I’ve been using a sludge pump build that just puts a ton of sludge everywhere with a charge shot and corrosive damage

It works super well actually

[crimson tinsel]

I tried using my old cryo build and I just hate it now. The sludge works a lot better and is way more ammo efficient. Not as good against big guys tho

[primal moth]

Yeah I’m super happy about the sludge pump I used to just spray and pray with the cryo cannon with no real build going on but I just feel I can’t switch back to the flamethrower or cryo after using the sludge pump

[crimson tinsel]

I brought a max reach flame build with me on the last Dive and it worked really well. Light things up and then switch to my full auto Subata with extra flaming enemy damage

[primal moth]

I’ve been really wanting a good oc for my subata but I’ve had no luck

I want either the full auto or the explosive reload rounds

[crimson tinsel]

Explosive reload and Full Auto are my favorites

Once you get full auto and use the extra flame damage mod, it opens up some better flame builds that conserve ammo for your flamethrower

[primal moth]

Yeah I used to love the flamethrower but the cryo cannon immediately won me over the second I unlocked it

[crimson tinsel]

I picked the game back up already having everything set up for cryo so I just used that for awhile. Actually didn’t even bother with flamethrower because I didn’t want to give up the health regen ability. But after getting some good OC’s for it, it’s become my second favorite primary behind sludge.

[primal moth]

Awesome

Sludge is easily my new favorite though

[crimson tinsel]

Especially with the Sabotage missions

Flame is basically required

[primal moth]

I tried one I got completely murdered

Then again I was also playing with 2 super new friends so

[crimson tinsel]

Every robot dies upon catching fire and overheating even if they had health left

[primal moth]

Oh wow

I didn’t know that

[crimson tinsel]

Yep. So drillers are expected to bring flame.

[primal moth]

I’d assume that’s not including the caretaker though right?

[crimson tinsel]

Yeah doesn’t do much against caretaker. But it will make the tentacles retreat.

[primal moth]

Yeah that’s great

[vale lintel]

nah one-shot the caretaker with an incendiary grenade

[copper oracle]

driller just trivializes caretaker anyway with c4

[crimson tinsel]

Driller is just the best all around at most things

[summer wigeon]

what about not killing the team

[crimson tinsel]

Why

[primal moth]

Doesn’t matter if I kill my team when the dread naught dies too

And If we all die I got the “shit hits the fan” perk build, field medic and iron will

Easy mode

[primal moth]

Good mining ability with implosion, amazing weapons, amazing maneuverability, fucking c4, the list goes on

[crimson tinsel]

I only use my C4 if I’m absolutely certain I’m the only one around. I built them for full damage so if someone shoots my charge while I’m right there, I’m dead meat

[primal moth]

I either put them to good use or use them to end the mission if my team is pissing me off before we leave the starter cave

[primal moth]

About how much damage can a max damage c4 do to a dreadnought? I was thinking of using it if it was enough damage

[crimson tinsel]

Not sure with the different resistances

[primal moth]

Wdym?

[crimson tinsel]

Dreads have certain resistances to damage types

[primal moth]

Oh

I did not know that

[crimson tinsel]

That’s why certain guns suck against them

I don’t tend to use C4 against Dreads because chances are someone will get caught in the explosion

[primal moth]

I love to use it on hiveguards bc it insta kills their armor so you can get damage in quicker and get the fight over before everyone dies

How much more damage than a normal charge does that overcharge damage one do though if you had to guess

[crimson tinsel]

I would have to check but it does a lot

[primal moth]

Oh and also what is an effective way to kill bulks because I just can’t kill them ever

[crimson tinsel]

Probably more than necessary. Not enough to one shot big guys and way more than you need to kill anything smaller

[primal moth]

Ok

[crimson tinsel]

Bulks? Anything that slows them down is good. Cryo nullifies the damage if it’s frozen when it dies.

[primal moth]

Cool

I just always get murdered by them especially because me and my team just panic

[crimson tinsel]

Bulks are slow so it’s best to just run back and then shoot the weakpoints

If it’s a crassus, lead it into a tight tunnel and then kill it

[primal moth]

Are Crassus more powerful or is the only difference the gold explosion

[crimson tinsel]

I think they have more health

Not sure though

[primal moth]

Ah

[crimson tinsel]

Plus they don’t spawn during missions. They spawn in with the cave and you can only get one a mission, like if it was a supply crate or any other event spawn.

[primal moth]

Cool

[quartz badge]

Yes, normal Detonator: 4000 HP, Crassus: 6000 HP 🙂

[primal moth]

Thank you

[crimson tinsel]

Also never use cryo on Crassus. It nullifies the gold if it dies while frozen.

[inland dome]

So

STAGE TWO EDD

WHAT THE HELL

Huhn????

Wtf do you do

Perish, I guess

[severe tusk]

Play scout and don't get hit 🙂

[inland dome]

Tell that to the thirty hatchlings that take out a quarter shield in one hit

[severe tusk]

The landing zone up top is ideal to fight at for that stage. No reason for everyone to go down in the pit. Let the scout go in and out of there.

[inland dome]

Apparently all my buddy did was wait up there and have Bosco literally fetch all the eggs so he didn't have to go down in that hell

unfortunately

we did not have a scout in our team game

[severe tusk]

I don't generally tell my random teammates what to do, but maybe I should have suggested that they stay up top since they were getting slaughtered constantly that stage as they descended.

[inland dome]

Honestly just- the slasher grunts nearly one tap

We had no clue

how terrible it would be

we were on the cliff edge platform just off of the spawn when the swarm came

we died in a minute

[severe tusk]

If you were having problems with swarmers, make sure people have some AoE loadouts to deal with them. Impact Deflection with with the Plasma Splash mod is good for scout, Autocannon or a Bulldog with Magic Bullets for gunner, and driller and engi pretty much always have the AoE to deal with them.

[old widget]

Another “fun” fact for glacial strata + lethal enemies combos: the floating electric jellyfish attacks count as melee and therefore also get the lethal boost

(Ditto purple breeder jellyfish)

[severe tusk]

Also, have you gunner shield preemptively, right before you get overrun, not after people are battered or already down.

jellies and swarmers are a nasty combination.

[placid crane]

in a group someone needs to deal w/ aoe related stuff

if there's not a single dwarf equipped w/ aoe, it's hard to deal w/ swarmers

[crimson tinsel]

I will say that Scout is very important for this EDD in particular

[thorny geyser]

autocannon will absolutely destroy swarmers with flamethrower

[old widget]

now I'm picturing swarmers running around with tiny flamethrowers

[thorny geyser]

pyro-swarmers

[old widget]

new mod when

[atomic prawn]

lol magma biome swarmers that have the on-fire effect and spread heat when near you

[old widget]

oh god

[mental scroll]

i found this out the hard way

[thorny geyser]

swarmer exploders

sure they die to a sneeze, but there are so goddamn many of them

[severe tusk]

Otherwise known as the magma maggots 😉

[crude flume]

why is it so easy to just keep getting disconnected from deep dives for no reason?

we were one objective away from completing an elite deep dive and then boom

[mint creek]

finally got around to doing the EDD, solo crspr driller. stage 2 was really rough, downed me twice, but the other 2 went by pretty easily, was expecting this week to be much worse

[floral meteor]

@mint creek I did scout and couldn't beat stage 3

Only tried once. I could probably do it with sticky fuel driller but I really only wanted the blank core and OC

[mint creek]

failed at box? I can imagine spot it was at being pretty rough on scout

[floral meteor]

Yeah it was box

[humble sparrow]

Managed it as solo gunner, idk if the other classes could do much about the black box spot.

[floral meteor]

Tried to do it ASAP, didn't work. I might've been able to if I called 2 resups right away and spammed cryo

[mint creek]

I started hunting aquargs instantly, and then I waited until after the first proper swarm was over to do box, had 5 aquargs deposited by then

enemy density wasn't too bad during box, no fear of any swarms, but it still got quite messy with all the surrounding walls

[radiant obsidian]

that's a nightmare spot to solo black box as scout on haz 5.5

I mean, I did it, but only by abusing resupplies

(for grenades)

and yea, I did it immediately upon landing

[robust sedge]

DRG uses UDP for networking instead of TCP right?

[languid cipher]

i was just doing a mining mission and heard dreadnought music then suddenly the two twins spawned?

was my game wilding or is this a new thing

[tacit dawn]

dreadnought random spawns are a thing

rare, but a thing

[little timber]

can I carry over morkite from one mission to the next?

[raven grove]

Any game dev that tries to use TCP for networking is in for a harsh lesson.

[waxen terrace]

No

That would kinda defeat the purpose of Morkite objectives lol

You can only carry over Nitra and your remaining ammo/hp to every stage in DDs/EDDs

[split marlin]

also gold but that doesn't matter for game

well I mean it gets tallied at the end but yeah

[chrome portal]

Any tips for doing big ol' elite deep dives?

[short heron]

don't rush, have a team with a sound mind, notify them of anything that might pose a threat (swarmer nest, nexus, breeders, bet-c), never engage with the enemy bigger than yaself alone, try not to die somewhere far off during the swarm phase, don't mine gold, kill lootbugs in case of insufficient nitra, iron will and medic! perks are essential, never test builds there and last, but not least, don't mine gold

[chrome portal]

Gold basically useless?

[short heron]

majority of people play deep dives for overclocks and while you are allowed to mine gold in standard dd, mining gold in edd is generally frowned upon due to the fact that gold isn't worth dying over and potentially jeopardizing the mission

[crimson tinsel]

And more specifically for this part of the year, don’t bother opening gifts since it doesn’t seem to count error cubes towards your XP even if you find them.

[old widget]

(Though I have found secondary objectives buried inside gifts a few times)

[candid rose]

I ran two deep dives this week and my second one gave no rewards is it once per week that you get rewards?

[old widget]

Yes, one reward per stage of the deep dive completed per week

No material benefit to running the same dive stages more than once

[candid rose]

Damn how else will i get cores then

[old widget]

You get the opportunity for nine cores per week
1 blank, 1 weapon, 1 cosmetic
From weekly core hunt, DD, EDD
Resets every Thursday

That’s it

It’s the end of endgame content, so it’s designed to be trickled out over time

With a total of 124 weapon OCs and 336 cosmetic OCs, it’ll take almost exactly a year of getting 9 cores a week nonstop to get ‘em all

[candid rose]

Thats terrible

Anyway thanks for the info

[old widget]

Eh. It’s endgame content. And only the weapon OCs affect gameplay, takes far less time to get all those

About 21 weeks under ideal conditions

[magic prism]

lmao we just lost edd to a grabber who yoinked the last person busy reviving someone

[old widget]

Nothing like grabber taking you on a glyphid safari through a field of lethal enemies

[fierce karma]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1835778231733643195/E02A8B723DD423E80D532C89E63CF41B37E798A6/?imw=500

could not have been closer, could not have been luckier

[sour drift]

Oi mates

How difficult would y'all say an elite deep dive is

I'm used to hazard 4 difficulty wise

[placid crane]

slightly harder

[sour drift]

But still doable?

[placid crane]

in technical terms, it's 4/4.5/5.5 per stage

yeah

[sour drift]

Aight

Thanks bruv

[placid crane]

but this week's a little kooky, so prepare for a bit of crazy stuff

[sour drift]

Oki

[old widget]

4.5/5/5.5

[placid crane]

Is it really 4.5/5/5.5?

[old widget]

It is!

[placid crane]

I swear everyone says 4/4.5/5.5

[old widget]

All the cool kids check the wiki

[placid crane]

Hmm

[sour drift]

Nice

Well that was uh

My first EDD

[sour drift]

It did not end well

[radiant obsidian]

just make sure you prioritise the weapon ocs when they are available, instead of cosmetics

[candid rose]

yeah for sure

[half patrol]

Third stage is shield disruption

[crimson tinsel]

I play Haz 4 and not Haz 5 and I do the EDD’s every week

[gaunt valve]

holy shit that black box in this edd is wild

I just tried solo-scouting it and it did not end well

[steep cloud]

If it makes you feel better, this week's is harder than usual

[sour drift]

oh it got to the second stage

Low on ammo and swarms with lethal enemies took care of us

To be fair our gunner just left

that's a bit unforts

[half patrol]

i can gunner for you

if you wanna play

[lunar helm]

That does make me feel better

I completed it today, but every dwarf went down about 15 times each lol

It was the first EDD i completed

[crimson tinsel]

My best result as a gunner was a few weeks ago, went 13 revives and 0 downs. This week I ended up with 3 downs, one of which was the host calling a resupply in the middle of the Stage 3 black box while we were fighting

Didn’t even notice he called it thanks to the constant sound of my autocannon firing in my ear

[old widget]

just try it. doesn't cost ya anything

[obtuse pasture]

just yolo it.. you can at least get the first blank

[old widget]

click button, drop pod, fight, die

see how far ya get

[obtuse pasture]

worst case you fail. then try again

rinse repeat

[old widget]

Haz 5.5 PE don't mess around

welcome party alone will give you a good run

[split marlin]

you rapidly learn to not eagerly run off the pod ramp in EDD

well, if you're not a haz5 regular that is, and I wasn't when I started doing these

[pure canyon]

That last stage in this weeks edd is brutal

[crimson tinsel]

If you prep for it and tell the others what they’ll need to do right away, it’s pretty speedy. That Stage 2 took us by surprise because of that horrible layout.

[unkempt saffron]

Id say the start for this week (well technically last week) edd stage 3 isnt too bad, you dont have spitballers, brood nexus etc. all out in the spawn room, the only difficulty is that it gets progressively more challenging, but thats the beauty in haz 5.5

[thorny gull]

Question from a 60-ish hours greenbeard: should I unlock all weapons before starting my first deep dive?

I have all weapons unlocked and upgraded for my driller but nothing for other classes

[pure canyon]

Me and my friend got absolutely wiped at that blackbox, nothing we could really do as a scout and engie to make the layout better

[crimson tinsel]

Yeah that third Stage is a good example of four dwarves each having a use. Engie and Scout to quickly snatch up the aquarqs, gunner to clear the swarms while the others work, and driller to widen out the black box zone to fight in.

[humble sparrow]

More weapons gives more options, though I think you're fine if you're going in with just Driller. Pretty sure DDs are limited to Promoted Dwarves too.

[split marlin]

later weapons arent necessarily better and are more of a diff play style

[pure canyon]

like the difference between the deepcore and the m1000

[dense tiger]

just solo'ed this week EDD as driller and now I need therapy

that black box was just too much

almost lost it all at the last run for the drop pod

bosco is the real MVP

[tribal snow]

Anyone ever get frozen and a and won't unfreeze ?

A and d

[noble cape]

lethal enemies on 2nd is pain

[tiny frost]

dude that black box location on the edd is so fucked

i tried to solo it with 4 bosco reses and iron will with gunner and couldnt hold my position there

you just get fuckin destroyed

that, and the fact that it's busted shield or whatever, makes the bubble shield next to useless since it doesnt recover my shield... blaaah

it would have been fine too, but every time i'd go down, the black box bar would decrease rapidly. It forces you to do it with someone else, but I prefer solo play more often than not. Sucks

I half wonder if I could have scrapped by using a zipline, but my concern would be A. not being able to be in range of the signal, and B. getting knocked down by something dumb.

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[rose grove]

woop woop

[old widget]

This is a bug. Affects Microsoft store version.

[humble sparrow]

I used a resupply pod and shields to make the most of the Black Box spot, would have definitely gone a lot worse without

[timid vault]

anyone have any tips for stage 2 of edd

keep wipin gon stage 2 seems a pain

[crimson tinsel]

Are you doing it Solo?

[timid vault]

tried it once solo and then with a 4 man stage 1 was easy but stage 2 just keeps wiping us

[humble sparrow]

The floor area felt like it had more space to fight in compared to the ledge sections.

[crimson tinsel]

My team was almost all downed a few times before I told the Engie and driller to join me on the drop pod landing zone and fight the swarms up there while the scout plucked eggs one at a time

[timid vault]

yea the lower part is a death sentence might try the idea of fightin up top

[crimson tinsel]

Once we went up top it was no problem

Exploders snuck up on the Engie a few times but I was zip lining above the drop pod hole so I would just drop a shield when he got blowed up

[timid vault]

alright ill try that thank you hopefully these randoms will stick for one more that was our second wipe

[crimson tinsel]

Yeah just communicate your plan and they’ll likely go with it. I was one of the lower levels on my team and they still went with my plan

[timid vault]

alright sounds good thanks again will leet you know how it goes

[crimson tinsel]

And also communicate to the scout and Engie on Stage 3 to get those aquarqs as quick as possible while driller clears the box zone

I think my scout and Engie had all the aquarqs within like a minute

I covered the driller while he dug the black box area out

[brave yarrow]

Is it possible to do a deep dive with randoms? Just did one alone and died at the very very end pfff

[nova magnet]

yeah go to the terminal and host one and wait, or join one that is in preparation

but damn, this EDD is breaking my balls.

[brave yarrow]

is it supposed to be exactly the same each time?

[viral barn]

yeah

[timid vault]

stage 2 done solo! lets see 3 lol

[timid vault]

welp atleast i mad eit past stage 2 thanks for the tips wiped on 3 tho

[obtuse pasture]

PE on EDDs are always the grand filter.. you pretty much have to speed run PE and time the secondarys well.. particularly dreads or black boxes as you can easily get a natural swarm call during them.

if you get to the 2nd swarm call - and you haven't started the black box yet.. you are probably doomed

Pulled this week off deathless on solo scout .. timing is everything on this run

[crimson tinsel]

Fighting swarms as Gunner on PE EDD is actually a blast most of the time. I see a massive crowd of grunts crawl out and I get super greedy. Got to tag every last one with NTP

[obtuse pasture]

the ONLY catch to NTP solo is TTK .. you can still get overwhelmed.. particularly by mactera.. nothing a shield can't fix most of the time

[dense tiger]

yeah the seed is the same every week, it resets each thursday

[dense tiger]

clearing the area around it before helped a lot

[tulip idol]

having a blast with NTP
kapp

[old widget]

NTP is god tier OC

On H4/5 in particular

[crimson tinsel]

For Mactera I shield and BRT

[humble ravine]

It's the superior sidearm for taking care of NTP's greatest weakness.

[crimson tinsel]

I use the BRT for most of my load outs

[chrome quiver]

I use vb for flame gunner and magic bullets for ls, but for my autocannon builds I use brt

[old widget]

Same

[crimson tinsel]

BRT is perfect to switch to when you’re running Born Ready so you always have bullets flying out of you. And you can be less worried about anmo consumption

[crimson tinsel]

Also always run BRT with the stun rounds

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[tiny frost]

hypehype!

i cant get passed this week's stage 3, so i gave up lol

i'm doin the sad youtube watchin now lmao

that blackbox spot fucks me everytime rip

i wanted to get it done too, since that cosmetic OC would be the last one I'd need to forge to get to one of the breakpoints in the forge for another weapon OC lmao

I prefer solo rather than just joinin pubs

that or i play with friends l;ol

ahh. yeah that could make it tough. I play anything, but i primarily play gunner.

you can have a friend in me 😄 If ya ever want someone to play with i'm usually down lmao

[hushed sequoia]

i did the edd with some randoms that were quite a bit lower level than me in 41 mins and it went pretty good

we had 2 engis so the blackbox was pretty smooth at the end

[tiny frost]

wow, jelly

[hushed sequoia]

i got all the aquarqs before the first wave but pe can be pretty hard

constant bugs

[ruby lotus]

Dear DD discussion
Today I learned that you can't earn another blank oc or others from part 2 or 3 if you've already cleared it
Sincerely
A greenbeard rank 40

[stray ruin]

are deep dives set seed?
or is it simply the same objectives each time with a random seed?

[steep cloud]

Set seed

[stray ruin]

interesting

[tiny frost]

does anyone have any recommendations for dealing with the blackbox at the end of the edd? I want to play my gunner for it, I'm running it solo, and I'm using actives: dash and iron will, passives: elemental insulation, resupplier, and unstoppable will. for weapons I'm limited in overclocks but I'm running a 32212 bullethell lead storm, a 23311 elephant rounds bulldog, my pick is 11, my shield is 221, and my zipline is 212. Finally I'm running the cluster grenades. My armor is also 3111.

my issue is the location of the blackbox. it's just like.. such a fucked position, sticking you in a corner, and it feels like i just get overwhelmed with no way to push back any of the enemies really. I have my bosco set up with 4 revives, but every time I go down, the progress bar drops like crazy. My strat has been to fire as much as possible, dropping a resupply right next to the thing, so when i do go down, I iron will the first time, grab a resupply to stay up, bubble shield to bide my time, then every time I go down after, same deal, bubble shield up for time, and shoot into the crowd until I inevitably go down again. I'm not really sure what else to do. I can't leave the zone, obviously, otherwise i lose the progress, and digging out a shelter for myself will take way too much time and resources, since I'll be constantly getting swarmed.

I would play my driller with cryo cannon, but then the issue becomes the dreadnaughts at the start, and I dont have any decent driller overclocks to boot.

[crimson tinsel]

It really is just super stacked against solo players with these particular modifiers on this particular map layout.

It’s practically demanding you play on a full team

People can manage it without but it makes it much more difficult

[hushed sequoia]

maybe take the duration mod in t3 on the shield

also use your ziplines to stay off the ground

[upbeat obsidian]

Big Rock and Stone to the legends I just did the EDD with. I'm glad I didn't wait too long to do this week's, it was a lot of fun.

[humble sparrow]

I took Bertha Autocannon into the EDD, have been using it more than Minigun for it's ability to deal with packs of enemies easier.

Staying up with Shield generator use might be better than waiting till downed, and losing progress while reviving from bosco (especially with PE scaling).

Sticky Grenades are notably good for extra area clear and fear.

[upbeat obsidian]

I just ran it with a full team using NTP Autocannon. The stages all have enough space to let the poison work, but for the Black Box, I actually found I was getting more bang for my buck out of the fear mod than anything else in my kit.
The groups of bugs had a tendency to come over the lip above the box in big groups with too little distance to properly kill them before they got close.
Making them turn and go back up the wall repeatedly saved us a bunch of grief for that objective.

[tiny frost]

im so fucking pissed. I just got though the whole deep dive. completed the fuckin black box and everything. Lost because while in iron will, used the resupply, and for some fuckin reason or another, it canceled the resupply and I was unable to save myself with my breach cutter.

Im fuming right now

[crimson tinsel]

I used that one too. Great way to increase the time for poison to do its damage

[tiny frost]

i had all objectives completed and everything.

all was going smoothly. But resupply just... noped on me

[upbeat obsidian]

I honestly felt that the most stressful part of stage 3 was extraction. As soon as we had everything done, someone smashed the button and all hell broke loose. I just started looking for any inconvenient places the exit pod could be, and zip-lining them, and then made my way to the highest point I could to be ready. (Found an Error Cube in the presents on the way up too, which was a nice bonus.)
I'm not sure we would have even gotten out for certain if zips were not up before the pod was even coming down. 😬

It's unfortunate how easily resupplies will nope on you if you or they are moved enough that you aren't in line with the tab hitbox.

[tiny frost]

I actually just had to rage quit. I'm probably not playing anymore tonight. I had that shit, man. I had it solo'ed. I was done. but nope, resupply decided "nah, you dont get to live" he pulled a fist of the north star on me "omae wa mou shindeiru"

im so angry

[upbeat obsidian]

Hopefully you can find a silver lining there and look at it as good practice and find positives in what you accomplished. This is not an ideal EDD to solo, certainly not an easy one for it.

[tiny frost]

i woulda tried again with the bosco revives too, but the invulnerability phase was just not long enough

yeah, i got far enough, I'm please with my progress, i'm just mad that I fail because... because of something completely outside of my control.

it's lame.

[upbeat obsidian]

indeed

[tiny frost]

i had the iron will SPECIFICALLY for that moment, you know?

but nope.

lame.

guess I'll try again on this next week's edd.

[upbeat obsidian]

Are you located in a region where you can't find parties to join at all?

[tiny frost]

I just dont really like doing pubs. I prefer to like.. play with people I know, or get in a group with some folks after talking to them a bit first, you know?

[upbeat obsidian]

Totally fair

[tiny frost]

aaahhh... well I'll consider it a win, I had everything done, I'm just salted that the lame resupply pod just hated me

I'm still proud of how far I got alone.

[hushed sequoia]

i didnt bother with the last stage on the edd from 2 weeks ago just because of how time consuming it was for me

[upbeat obsidian]

You'll have to get revenge on the resupply pod somehow...

[hushed sequoia]

took like an hour then a bulk just spawned and murdered everyone

[tiny frost]

laaame. i'm sorry gago

[upbeat obsidian]

I sort of remember last week's being time consuming. 😬

This week, I did two runs with pubs. I definitely feel the pain of a failed run due to nonsense. In my first run, we failed out of the gate on stage 3 because someone fired off a bunch of explosives, and two of us were downed by the falling icicles. Then one guy used Iron Will once everyone was down, but got bounced off the top of a bunch of bugs and flew too far to get back to revive anyone in time. It was comical, but frustrating because it ended a good run with tomfoolery.

[tiny frost]

damn lol

[upbeat obsidian]

I've legitimately never had a mission fail because of falling icicles, it would have been really funny if it wasn't an EDD ending bunch of horrible luck xD

[tiny frost]

next time i see a resupply pod, i'm burying it with c4.

on the bright side, my engi build works really well apparently lol

i mean if i can get that far in on my own, 's p good

[upbeat obsidian]

Yeah, solo EDD as Engi is a feat itself

[tiny frost]

i like that spinning death OC for the breach cutter. v nice

it's like a fabulous blender o' death

[upbeat obsidian]

And you can safely stand in the middle of it

[tiny frost]

yis.

that was my strat for the black box. and it was working. woulda kept working too if resupply weren't a bitch

[severe tusk]

Engi is kind of OP with his turrets and proximity mines. That black box on stage 3 in particular, you can create a couple of funnels on the wall behind you with platforms and rely on the mines and one or two turrets to take care of most of what's coming down on you from above. If you're a shotgun user, turret whip is really strong too to bail you out if you start to get overrun.

[thick jay]

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[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Massive Keep
Stage 1: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: Protect the Drilldozer + 150 Morkite | No Mutators
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Low Gravity Mactera Plague

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Deep Nightfall
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Classic) + 150 Morkite | Rich Atmosphere
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Low Oxygen

[jaunty crag]

Lmao crystalline caverns again for dd

[ebon anchor]

EDD always has an elimination for the past weeks

[quiet mortar]

Anything's better than Hollow Escort lol

[ebon anchor]

I just returned recently so I haven't seen much yet. There's escort in EDD?

😩

[quiet mortar]

There's been 2 Escorts occasionally lmao

[ebon anchor]

That's gotta be pretty scary especially with mutators on final stage

Can't imagine it

[supple crest]

deep dive last dive is 200 morkite 2 eggs mactera plague and low gravity

[mint creek]

oh boy, dreadnaught with low oxygen, never seen that before in EDD

[ebon anchor]

Wtf management

This is like the how many week in a row now

Elim with low oxygen

[stuck moth]

Hollow bough+Leech cluster is a nightmare

[humble sparrow]

Low O2 is relatively fine when it isn't PE/Refining.

[copper oracle]

god dammit its hollow bough

[humble sparrow]

Leeches in Hollow sounds very unpleasant on the other hand

[void hare]

2 edds before there was one on stage 1

[mint creek]

pretty sure this is the 4th or 5th week in row with it

[cursive cedar]

hollow ....nooo!! not the leeches!!

[void hare]

Oh god i didn't read the sarcasm

[crimson tinsel]

Huh...an EDD Stage with an anomaly and no warning

That’s unusual

[jolly hazel]

I havent seen rich atmosphere in edd in a while

[old widget]

Rich atmo on dreads…that should be a cake walk

[red aurora]

man, that EDD just reinforces why I fucking hate pub elimination missions

so many single cell organism dwarves that fucking spin and run around like mad men when they are a dread target, so nobody gets any clean shots

and its TWO HIVEGUARDS in EDD

so they just fucking spin it during the vulnerable phase as well

fucking hate it

walk in straight long loops and then just dodge fireballs and when the hiveguard stops, just face it down and dodge the projectiles while your team gets shots in

its not rocket science

[scarlet herald]

can u get error cubes from the gifts?

[red aurora]

yes

[scarlet herald]

awesome

[red aurora]

its either swarmers or loot bugs

or cubes

[scarlet herald]

when did they remove bittergem and compressed gold?

[stuck moth]

Holy shit bulk detonator in uplink mission isn't fun

[fast sluice]

huh regular deep dive is crashing?

on stage 2

had someone else say it crashed for them,and it did for me just now too

[copper oracle]

happened to me on stage 1 earlier

[fast sluice]

i think i was actually running with you, your name is familiar =v

[copper oracle]

Yes I was engie man

[fast sluice]

EDD had absolutely no issues, thats strange

[copper oracle]

I was shooting a goo bomber when we crashed and wondering why he ate my whole lok mag

[fast sluice]

yeah the dozer broke through a wall and then the game just... stopped

[crimson tinsel]

Wow. Was just in an EDD lobby with lvl 300's and 400's and I'm the only one who brought Iron Will. They bailed after getting downed once.

[wraith shard]

oof
just wiped super quick on the deep dive

[crimson tinsel]

Sometimes I get into lobbies where it doesn't feel like the higher level players have actually done EDDs before

[fallow niche]

woo, new EDD. any not immediately obvious aspects of it that might be worth knowing in advance?

doesn't look super crazy.

2-breeder welcoming committee on stage 1 immediately makes me kind of wish i took a more CC/AoE-focused setup. :I
but 3 dreads, so whatever.

[grim fjord]

don't breeders warrant single target? only reason to need CC on them if you let it get out of control

[scarlet herald]

yeah there's alotta breeders and brood nexuses throughout the edd

[scarlet herald]

don't need iron will if you don't go down

although leaving instantly after getting downed once is very annoying

[fallow niche]

phew, yeah lots of static enemies, leeches, etc shit even on solo and i'm barely out of the spawn cave

count 4 leeches so far.

[old widget]

Almost like…a cluster of leeches

[fallow niche]

imagine that

stage 1's pretty easy once the static stuff is cleared out, as expected. stabber vines are a nuisance but that's hollow bough

and there's like... 2 semi-decent spots to hold during a swarm

i expect dread fights with rich atmosphere to be pretty much ezmode

[north urchin]

This week's EDD is easy as pie my team and I completed it first try

[red aurora]

my team made it a struggle fest

[ancient raptor]

bough this week?

oh boy

[fallow niche]

yeah, it's not too bad so far though cramped as expected

[red aurora]

yeah its pretty cramped and fucky map, no nitra from what I experienced but in all possibility our scout could have been bad

bring cyro, tonnes and tonnes of breeders and nexus

and I think always one bulk on first map

[stuck moth]

I wish fatboy was locked behind level 150. Because the amount of trigger happy tards who love shooting it right in our face and cause our wipe is staggering

[red aurora]

not running friendly with fatboy is just asking for trouble

[fallow niche]

stage 1 felt like it'd be a little light on nitra for a 4-dwarf team, like 2-3 resups within easy reach iirc, but stage 2 seems a little better

i didnt get any bulks on stage 1, though

[red aurora]

interesting

okay yeah then my scout just sucked cause we had like, 5 resupplies total

throughout all 3 missions

[fallow niche]

ouch

hollow bough can be annoying to find nitra on since there's red crap everywhere

[red aurora]

it was not a fun time

but I got all 3

regular is gonna be a much more chill experience at least

[hot gazelle]

Does anyone else use Volatile Impact Mixture? I find it really fun.

I don't think it's haz 5 viable though

[edgy fractal]

EDD Nitra is too few

[hot gazelle]

Haz 5 swarms are just too big to tap-fire everything

I guess a slightly more charge shot focused build could work, though.

[hot gazelle]

Oh, wrong channel, sorry.

[tall meadow]

@oblique mortar what were you using for your flares?

was the engi

[north urchin]

My time and I found quite a lot of nitra.

[red aurora]

the evidence is mounting

[vapid hinge]

do you have the ability to pin your DD/EDD info posts? would be cool if we could get the new week's post pinned each week and last week's post unpinned. (I see the last one pinned was on 03/04/2021)

[quiet mortar]

Oh I always keep the pin Up to date! While it might be old that is the Current Dive ^^

[vapid hinge]

oh you're right! i didn't even notice, i just saw the pin or post date on the pin. thanks!

[ebon anchor]

There's quite a bit of nitra but in 4 dwarf team it's a little tight

I did it with my other 2 friends though, had like a bulk on stage 2 and 2 on stage 3

At least 300 nitra on stage 1 already

[stone chasm]

accidentally started the dreadnought seconds into stage 3, had to fight in the lower cave
after quite a bit of struggling we honorably failed the mission

the average EDD experience

[quasi cove]

I did the DD but the selector says I haven't. Does that mean I can get the rewards again?

[crimson tinsel]

Mission with the level 400’s ended in like 10 mins thanks to two of them abandoning when they went down, second time with lower levels went fine.

That one leech in the first cave off to the right grabbed me both runs. Second time I was trying to see it to shoot it and the arm clipped through the wall and snagged me.

[vapid hinge]

try it and see 🤷‍♂️

[waxen terrace]

2 edds failed

Because not enough nitra

Part of me feels like one should just speedrun 2 eggs per resupply in stage 3

[jolly hazel]

you need 1 resup per egg?

[waxen terrace]

No

Its more that we barely scraped for a supp in stage 3

[jolly hazel]

a lot of people seem to be having nitra issues

[waxen terrace]

And the amount of breeders and nexus is annoying

[jolly hazel]

neurotoxin rounds it is lol

was ur scout spiderman-cryo-ing the breeders?

[waxen terrace]

Its an ifg scout

[jolly hazel]

[waxen terrace]

Also flame driller

Yea 1st run failed cause we thought doing the hiveguard 1st was easier

[jolly hazel]

well there's something that will help

[quasi cove]

Ok so I did a different regular deep dive an hour ago somehow

[waxen terrace]

2nd run failed due to nitra constraints and double bulks

[jolly hazel]

ah

well

[waxen terrace]

I think cryo would be great ye

[quasi cove]

So 3 DD for me this week

[jolly hazel]

like I'm not a meta snob

[lost token]

Having a cryo driller is beneficial for the EDD

[jolly hazel]

but there are things that boost your odds

[lost token]

This week I mean

[jolly hazel]

cryo always beneficial imo

[waxen terrace]

Stage 1 is just annoying with the 2 spitballers and 4 nexus and 2 breeders right out of spawn

Stage 2 is fine

[jolly hazel]

sludge is nice if every mission is a dread and its built correctly

fire is nice for salvage

[waxen terrace]

Stage 3 could be fine tho if the pace was maintained

[jolly hazel]

what weapon was scout using

[waxen terrace]

I felt that we took too long to get the eggs

Drahk

[jolly hazel]

gunner?

[waxen terrace]

Me, hurricane

[jolly hazel]

hmm

[waxen terrace]

And elephant bulldog

[lost token]

My team did fine

[jolly hazel]

ah thats pretty good

no cryo hurts though

[waxen terrace]

Yea

[lost token]

Yup

[waxen terrace]

I think the 3x dmg would be more efficient

[lost token]

Cryo Driller > Cryo scout, for this EDD at least

[waxen terrace]

Both of them with cryo would be great

Dont need to spend excess ammo on breeders

[jolly hazel]

I know hiveguard can freeze

does regular dread freeze too?

I forgot

i think it does

[waxen terrace]

All 3 can freeze

[jolly hazel]

ok then ya

really no reason to be taking fire

[lost token]

All of them freeze

[jolly hazel]

this week

[waxen terrace]

Yea fire sucks against dreads unless you have OCs

[lost token]

I think facemelter flamethrower is good for dreads

[jolly hazel]

yeah if I can trust the driller to not get stomped

[waxen terrace]

But tbh 2.5x dmg boosting within a burst is more useful

[jolly hazel]

(I cant)

especially if they arent host

[lost token]

Scout hosting is the way

[waxen terrace]

A decent driller knows how to social distance from dreads

[jolly hazel]

yeah the decent part is the tough one

[waxen terrace]

The only tricky part to kite is the hiveguard's split bombardments

[jolly hazel]

although I definetly run into the best drillers in general on edd

the fireballs?

[waxen terrace]

No

[lost token]

@waxen terrace you gonna attempt EDD again for cosmetic OC?

[waxen terrace]

When the weakspot opens it will also summon fire bombs around it

Ye

[jolly hazel]

oh ya

[lost token]

The AOE

[waxen terrace]

I just wanna finish off edd so i can unga bunga DD

[lost token]

LuL

[jolly hazel]

I just stand in a straight line from the dread where there is no rock ball

[waxen terrace]

Thats the hard part to kite for me

[jolly hazel]

and I dont usually get hit

or just jump lol

[lost token]

I'm usually dumping embedded detonators into its back which is why I get hit

No time to react

[oblique mortar]

Thicker Core, High Capacity Magazine, Magnesium Core, 2, 2, 3

[waxen terrace]

Also i wanna finish the edd cause i wanna get that free OC from forging

[crimson tinsel]

I went NTP for this one again

Great for the swarms from all those eggs

Not as good against those dreads

[shadow shoal]

Should have taken combat mobility

[tall meadow]

Ah guessed as much

this week EDD definitely was one of the easier ones

[crimson tinsel]

Once you find dwarves who don’t abandon after getting downed once

[tall meadow]

If only we didn’t fall into a dread made hole on stage 2 , we would have finished faster that’s for sure kek

3 man EDD this week

[crimson tinsel]

Ours was 3 for the second half

Driller left for some reason halfway through 2

[tall meadow]

Things happen

[crimson tinsel]

Yeah I know, feel bad though because he put in effort before then

[tall meadow]

This week was basically textbook plays

[crimson tinsel]

Had a driller piss off a level 600 something today during the normal dive. They started PvPing each other

[tall meadow]

Kek sounds fun

[crimson tinsel]

I was doing stuff away from them so I didn’t notice until after we finished. Driller tried to trap the pod but the Engie was already inside

Would have kicked him if he told me earlier

[tall meadow]

It happens dw

[lavish summit]

any tips for dreadnaughts solo?

[earnest ravine]

just kill

[tall meadow]

I believe you’re referring to the EDD dreads ? If so for this week since it’s hiveguards and 1 classic dread.

For the hiveguard is simple, kill all the sentinels, bring the hiveguard to a big enough space before letting it open up its shell. Dump whatever weapon that you’re using on its exposed point but you must focus and pay attention to the “cluster rocks” that it stomps out, other than that you’re good.

Classic dread always slightly more annoying but you will always attempt to get your shots in when you trigger it’s aoe stomp

[lavish summit]

Any other tips for solo OG dread? I can handle hive guards pretty easily

[crimson tinsel]

shoot the booty

[tall meadow]

Honestly I can’t give nothing much else other than making it trigger it’s stomp so I can finally pelt it’s constantly vibrating ass

[crimson tinsel]

If you're solo, Dash would probably help

[tall meadow]

The stomp or when it fires it’s singular fireball gives you a bit more time to unload more into it

Like what tinker said, dash can help, idk what class you would want to use but you just gotta keep kiting with the OG dread

[lavish summit]

is there like a certain situation that will trigger the stomp? I fought the OG, and I kept waiting for a stomp but he only did it once or twice. was that just bad RNG?

[crimson tinsel]

I sometimes line myself up and dash in front of its face to trigger it attacking even though I'm already away from it

[paper jackal]

It's been super easy for like 5 weeks now

[crimson tinsel]

Stage 3 was Hell on a lot of players last week, especially solo

[lavish summit]

for sure, I've been playing solo no Bosco, resupply and Dash are a must

[tall meadow]

Indeed

[crimson tinsel]

For my team last week, Stage 3 was super quick but we knew what was coming and started working as soon as we walked out

[spice mortar]

did anyone post the deep dive yet ?

[tall meadow]

The black box situation was dealt with efficiently with good prep and that we timed the swarm

[crimson tinsel]

check pin

[tall meadow]

Refer to pins

[spice mortar]

?

[tall meadow]

Pinned message in this channel

Wrong tag

But yes refer to pin message in this channel

The DD and EDD is updated via that pin

[tall meadow]

Now that’s something I cannot answer , I just know a rhythm to it after dealing with the OG dread for awhile now, when it does finally stomp once you get close to it, just make sure to grasp that time to hit it and not get caught in the stomp

[oblique mortar]

for sure

[waxen terrace]

well, 3rd try and thats the worst EDD i had ever

[frail patrol]

Just Hollow Bough things

[magic prism]

damn, low grav + tunnel rat is the most fun a scout can have without taking her clothes off

[frail patrol]

ik the deep dives are static through the week, but are the regions, missions and modifiers picked by the devs or is it truly just a randomized series of missions? Like how this weeks EDD has a bunch of breeders and nexuses right away. Are things like the initially spawned monsters and objective locations hand picked?

[odd path]

EDD went fine for me. And I made it a point to prove to myself I wasn't crutching on NTP so I didn't bring that loadout.

Praise be to Bosco's cryo rockets with those Nexi and Breeders

Nexi... Nexuses?

[queen patrol]

finished the edd... so many leeches...

[crimson tinsel]

Leech number wasn’t as bad as some leech placement

[odd path]

Yeah I've seen worse

[crimson tinsel]

That one went through the wall

[odd path]

Funny enough, the one leech in stage 2 was the only one that grabbed me

[queen patrol]

is there any shield disruption in the normal dd, im gonna bring shield battery booster

[odd path]

But I wasn't ready for him. Bastard.

[crimson tinsel]

No

[odd path]

No

[queen patrol]

[odd path]

Remember, you can always check the pins to see what's what this week

[queen patrol]

yeah but i dont want to spoil the whole thing

[odd path]

Interesting

[crimson tinsel]

One of these days I’m going to walk up to the Deep Dive terminal and it’s just going to say Check the Pins...

[odd path]

I suppose that is a way to do it. Maybe when I get all the cores I want I'll approach normal dd that way

[queen patrol]

i didnt check edd either so thank karl for all the egg missions

[odd path]

I'd almost say EDD is ultra chill this week. No announced random swarms.

[crimson tinsel]

First cave gave my team the most issue and that was mostly because of the layout. I didn’t get downed my second run until the Hiveguard in Stage 3. The first run was the one that got abandoned by the others during a swarm.

[jolly hazel]

randomized every week so people get the same cave gen. breeders and other big enemies are spawned according to the number of players in the game. locations are set.

*objective locations are set

enemy locations may vary per player count but it is the same between two or three 4-man lobbies

[jolly hazel]

had two leave after their first down on my team

is it ok to name and shame or no

[crimson tinsel]

No

I had the same thing happen. You can complain but not call people out by name

I had someone 100 levels higher than me thank me for carrying during my second run, so that felt nice. Went 14-3

[tiny frost]

EDD stage 1, complete. next lol

[frail patrol]

they could just change their steam name so probably wouldnt do anything anyways

[jolly hazel]

like

I watched the driller stand still with an explorer next to him

die

and then leave

and he was like level 200+

some people

[fringe kettle]

Rank means nothing outside of a rough indication of playtime.

[jolly hazel]

you'd think they would learn to play better during that playtime

[next blaze]

Heck, sometimes you just don't hear it in the midst of everything, or you hear it and think it's farther away than it is

[jolly hazel]

🤡

well he brought sludge gun

[waxen terrace]

On my 3rd edd attempt

The engineer was going heehoo panicking

And never had a turret up

Dude had more promotions than me but played like a greenbeard

[manic spade]

Doing the EDD, first mission and I'm already basically out of ammo help

[tiny frost]

just got done with the edd. almost. last stage. hit the button to return to drop pod. bulky appeared. noped me the fuck on out. i fucking hate low o2

hiveguard is also hell

[crimson tinsel]

We got a bulk right before we called pod

Glad we waited a few extra seconds lol

[jolly hazel]

had to kill the last dread

with pickaxes

ammo is kind of an issue

[obtuse pasture]

wrangling bulks is an art form.. unless scout IFG ,,. in which case.. you get a 15s head start and GTFO

[manic spade]

A bulk det nearly got me and my crew at the end of our elite deep dive BUT WE DID IT

[worn bramble]

this week feels hella nitra dry

[tidal spruce]

this fucking EDD is painful AF

ive died 3 times on the first mission

[steep cloud]

No timed swarms tho, can beat it slow-and-steady

[ebon anchor]

You will die from lack of nitra

The mini swarms on Haz 5/5.5 will still waste all your ammo if you don't hurry

[waxen terrace]

the mini swarms are brutal

we only survived by calling the drop asap when the last egg was done

and had to iron will into the drop pod

cryo is so needed for saving ammo

[ebon anchor]

We brought cryo + hyper propellant

[humble sparrow]

Good lord EDD part 1 starts off rough

[ebon anchor]

EDD stage 1 was kinda fun for engi platform parkour haha

[brisk pollen]

Our EDD was saved by lootbug from a present

This EDD was so nitra starved

All because management wanted a lot of eggs.

[waxen terrace]

thank god for stage 3 the 3 eggs are all in 1 chamber

[ebon anchor]

And management loves low oxygen elim

[warm light]

did the EDD with a friend

our random scout almost cost us the dive by being a careless dumbass

Downed me at least 4 times by accident with his drak

[atomic prawn]

lol splash drak?

[warm light]

downed my friend twice

no, just fucking fired right through us\

made us use so much extra nitra that we almost lost

[atomic prawn]

rip

[warm light]

wasn't hard for him to do either

first time he did it I went down in under a second 100% to zero

[ebon anchor]

Wait splash drak can cause significant friendly fire?

[warm light]

Not to my knowledge

No this guy was just firing through us

half a second of fire and he would take out a third of my health

[old widget]

probably had OPA overclock on the drak

I run that, its burst DPS is absolutely insane, super easy to graze a dwarf and down them on H5
(I have done this...more than a few times)

[icy river]

Yep true it really hits hard

This biome is horrible

[humble sparrow]

Hollow Bough itself is a difficulty modifier with how wonky the terrain is.

[humble sparrow]

Very ammo burning EDD

[trail hound]

or scout drak elec

[severe finch]

Holy shit EDD looks nice

[noble cape]

Ever just have someone host a DD, only to get 4 people and quickly swap it to a regular mission?
Cause that just happened

[crimson tinsel]

I mean if someone does that when I’m in the game I’ll just leave

[red aurora]

yeah thats just leave, don't even bother

but yeah the EDD is pretty brutal on lack of nitra, bring your most ammo efficient builds and cyro

my driller brought flamer and it fucking sucked

scout also brought ifg instead of cyro nades

[old widget]

IFG can be good for ammo conservation if used well, but it’s a lot more straightforward to save 4 mag dumps into a breeder with one cryo nade

[waxen terrace]

I rather have the utility of cryo being a universal dmg booster

And flames kinda suck against the dreads

[red aurora]

tell me about it, I was the gunner and people double dipped my ammo during all those dread missions, I was fuming

then it came down to me and the dread and I had fuck all for ammo, its a miracle by karl we did all 3 missions

[humble sparrow]

Made the mistake of trying Salvo Module for the first time in the EDD, Dreads were soaking the missiles hard.

[waxen terrace]

Salvo is good for the burst dmg tho

[humble sparrow]

Burst but dealing with 40% explosive resist, and really short range to land the whole salvo with.
I'm usually bringing Big Bertha into Dreadnought fights.

[noble cape]

Salvo is great if you can get close and hit your entire shot.
I use it like a slow shotgun personally

[tall meadow]

Salvo is good against Dreads

[waxen terrace]

Yea once the weakpoint opens up

Salvo chews through the hp

[humble sparrow]

I've been packing BRT for eating health, is the biggest problem I ran into

[odd path]

Very valid. Using Salvo for single-target damage may not be your vibe.

[crimson tinsel]

Salvo chews through ammo

[odd path]

Instead, let Lead Spray do that and yoir rocket shotgun can blast a wave of bugs

[crimson tinsel]

And this isn’t a Dive to be chewing through ammo

[waxen terrace]

Well those 9 rockets are technically more ammo efficient

Since the salvo boosts rocket dmg

[tall meadow]

You don’t charge your rockets at every 2-3 bugs you see

Doing that , you’ll lose ammo no matter what

[crimson tinsel]

And if the weakspot closes or the dread turns just as you fire, that’s 9 rockets gone

[humble sparrow]

I've really only been able to use the full 9 salvo on Praetorians and Dreads, and the Praetorian armor probably ate up the extra shots.

[tall meadow]

That’s just your fault

[crimson tinsel]

Not my fault if I never done it lol

[waxen terrace]

Skill issue

[odd path]

Hiveguard turning because its mad at the Scout who wants to shoot it in the ass isn't your fault

[tall meadow]

Yes in that case not your fault

But I’m going to always be aware whenever I’m using weapons like the salvo

[crimson tinsel]

I’m just saying that things don’t always land

[humble sparrow]

Hiveguard in Stage 2 was going full turret for me in the first damage phase

[odd path]

That's normal for solo Hiveguard

He does pause after using his radial meteor blast

[tall meadow]

Hiveguard 3 fireball go whoosh

[crimson tinsel]

Our Stage 3 Hiveguard popped out of the dirt tunnel opposite the site he was on lol

Tried to flank us

[odd path]

Generally speaking, if your shots aren't landing, it's an issue with your aim or positioning, sometimes both depending on the circumstance.

This is not always the case. Sometimes the bug just has a moment and moves in a really anmoying way. Sometimes there's some latency issues so the game didn't catch up to your new position when you fired. And then sometimes you pull the trigger and your Driller who wedged himself between your barrel and the Prae's arse eats a Hyperprop shell to the back of the head.

[crimson tinsel]

That egg was right next to the one compacted dirt. All the smaller ones came through that entrance while the Papa went around the back