#deep-dive-discussion

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fringe kettle
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ew bunkers

quaint fjord
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i know, i can't stand it either.

next pebble
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Bonkers

quaint fjord
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and they blame ME when an oppressor opened up the roof and i shot back at stuff with my grenade launcher. Like the roof is already gone at that point

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because there were a million bugs

dark path
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ok guys

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ok

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so BULK will kill you in the last second of stage 3 elite deep dive

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even if you are IN DROP POD

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JESUS

burnt sandal
dark path
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that was so annoying bro

burnt sandal
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and a death blow deal 72 000 damage

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with 4 players

dark path
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we were 2

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actually . first try on this week edd

burnt sandal
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that's about 64 000 damage then drillchamp

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still a lot

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you might live if you stack all the damage resistance, as a gunner, in the drop pod, on haz 1

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that's a lot of conditions obviously 😄

dark path
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yeah thats right

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im just angry rn ..

burnt sandal
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Yeah, I can understand the frustration

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though, if you made it once

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you can do it again I'm sure

dark path
burnt sandal
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good luck

restive trout
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This weeks edd is tougher than the two before.

humble sparrow
burnt sandal
restive trout
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HP gate?

humble sparrow
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Dreadnoughts regain their shells/have an invulnerability phase after you deal enough damage or after enough time.

fringe kettle
solid anvil
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Shoutout to the cool engie and scout that helped me get this week's EDD!

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It really does feel good

warm tartan
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modifiers and warnings on the deep dive and the elite deep dive this week?

burnt sandal
warm tartan
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cheers mate

plain pawn
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Aight, brand new to this server, I hope this is the right place to post this question, my friends and I (we have a 4 man team, 1 of each class, all at at least 1 promotion) just can’t seem to complete even 1 part of an elite deep dive, I’m the engineer and I run the double turrets, auto rifle, and breach cutter, what should I do to maximize our odds of being ok? Internet search says I should run one turret but I don’t beleive that, and I should also run the stubby?

hollow brook
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Oh shoot wrong chat

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…how about that deep dive tho amirite

old widget
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That survival instinct usually comes from honing skills playing Haz4/5 until you don’t die much, if at all, on normal missions.

plain pawn
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Aye aye, is this just a matter of “get good”? If so I can work with that

hollow brook
plain pawn
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Yeah we can do haz five fine actually

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It’s so strange

old widget
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As cliche as it is, yeah, it mostly is “git gud”

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Sometimes you get an EDD where certain tactics can make or break it, but it’s rare.

plain pawn
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Hey I can work with get gud, if the key is skill and not my load out I can work with that. I’m def not the best at the game and I do rely on my scout friend to revive me 2-3 times a mission

old widget
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2-3 times a mission in H5 is fine IMO

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If you’re at that skill level then EDD should be within your grasp

plain pawn
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Yeah it’s not impossibly challenging right? We’ve had a handful of attempts at an EDD and just never got past the first third so I thought I’d ask here if there was some secret to my load out of it there was some piece of equipment I just had to have yknow? But hey if the differences in loadout aren’t really that impactful then that’s perfect, no harm in the old dark souls method of try try again

sullen nest
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I mean
Probably not, but fuck it
Post your loadout in #drg-gallery , now I'm curious

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Loadout really shouldn't matter, though

plain pawn
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aye aye, one sec

old widget
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If it helps provide some perspective, I don't see many players with only one promotion having great success in EDDs. So much of the skill in the game comes from just /playing/ a lot. I've got almost 900 hours in the game and I still learn new tactics/tricks every week

burnt sandal
plain pawn
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i apprear, to not be allowed to add images to the gallery chat?

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or am I just dumb

sullen nest
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probably because you don't have any roles?

burnt sandal
plain pawn
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ah that would be the explanation wouldnt it

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tis accomplished, thanks yall!

burnt sandal
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I don't think the loadout is the problem tbh

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at which part do you fail exactly ? Not enough nitra ? Too much time spent on the mission ? Bad teamwork ?

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what's failing ? @plain pawn

plain pawn
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so my issue personally is ammo, (sorry for late response)

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what usually happens is that I go down either trying to keep up my turrets or running out of ammo,

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and then the team therefore falls apart because without my turrets up and running, we are overwhelmed, and bam team wipe

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now obv part of that is just my skill right?

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but I feel like I struggle with ammo a lot more than i should, I debated switching to a different primary that doesnt suck up ammo so fast,

burnt sandal
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did you try using the SMG or the warthog instead of the lok-1 ? Not that the lok-1 is bad but it's a lot more technical, and can lead to a lot of ammo "wasted" if you're not careful.
Are you also running out of nitra ? could be an exploration problem. Btw, don't waste time mining gold : it's not important and you want to go as fast as you can in EDD in general

plain pawn
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yeah we do run out of nitra a lot,

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ah that would also be an issue

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we are a buncha monkeys who see anything pretty and we mine it

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so that might actually be our issue, we spend so much time getting every little thing that we use more nitra than we should since the missions take longer than they otherwise would,

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and thus, ammo problems.

burnt sandal
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yeah, might not help 😄

start by trying that : explore more, get all the nitra, don't mine gold

wraith shard
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For the Breach cutter do i want quick deploy or do i want reload speed

burnt sandal
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In missions like point extraction or refinery, you can split the team : some get the nitra, some do the objective

plain pawn
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oh I love quick deploy,

burnt sandal
wraith shard
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0.2 seconds seems like nothing tho

plain pawn
sullen nest
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0.2 seconds is the difference between hitting bugs immediately in front of you, and hitting bugs 5 meters away

wraith shard
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i see

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Also wheres that trade thing? i unlocked it via an assignment but cant find it

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is it a station in the main hub?

burnt sandal
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also you might want to ask those questions in #drg-chat instead 😄

wraith shard
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sorry the discord is a bit confusing

plain pawn
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thank you all for the help on my EDD struggles!

wraith shard
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its massive

plain pawn
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i wish you all a good rock and stone

burnt sandal
burnt sandal
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btw @plain pawn and @wraith shard

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welcome aboard drgbeer

plain pawn
wraith shard
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ty QA

wraith shard
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is the breach cutter projectile supposed toreturn backd?

burnt sandal
wraith shard
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thank u

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How do i get it? ik ovewrclocks are unlocked after promotion

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but is it a mission or something? an assignment?

wintry arrow
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Question does anybody know how long we have to complete the battle pass?

burnt sandal
burnt sandal
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misread your question lol, sorry

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well more like 4 months now since November went by

burnt sandal
wraith shard
burnt sandal
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which is why I don't advise you looking it up, that way you can enjoy what you have instead of waiting for "that one overclock" ^^

wraith shard
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how do i equp armor skins?

fringe kettle
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wardrobe

wraith shard
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ty

opaque agate
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Is the dreadnought hiveguard glitched for everyone

severe tusk
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How so?

opaque agate
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No I found out it is just a bug that happens sometimes with the hiveguard

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where she doesn't attack anyone

warm light
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Just beat the EDD with three greenbeards.

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It was our engineer's first dive, we managed to kill the twins with them only healing one time for a fraction of health and unlike my first attempt they actually managed to fight BetC instead of just tanking the hits.

tiny frost
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i know i asked this earlier, but what is this weeks basic deep dive?

warm light
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check the pins

tiny frost
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o hey thx

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❤️

old widget
red aurora
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huh thats strange... seems like I was able to do EDD twice this week and get rewards each time?

waxen terrace
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Are you sure its not DD + EDD?

burnt sandal
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because there was the reset on thursday

red aurora
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yeah its weird situation, cause I did an EDD as soon as reset dropped that I tihnk was in fungus bogs, and then I opened up the game today to see the EDD in the sand caverns

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so I have a total of 4 blank cores for this week

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someone in the mission commented that it was apparently last weeks mission, so maybe there was an issue with the reset at first?

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cause the EDD I did in fungus bogs was a bunch of egg missions

burnt sandal
red aurora
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maybe? wouldn't be the first time timezones have been weird

burnt sandal
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well it's easy to fix if that's the case

red aurora
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yeah just strange, well not that its a massively bad thing, getting an extra few cores in a week just wandering if it happened to anyone else

burnt sandal
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true ^^

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and yeah, it did happen to other people

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bit uncommon

quick solstice
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Every week in elite deep dive a hacker gives god mode to the whole team.. I should use hacks to get all over clocks too

burnt sandal
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you must be pretty unlucky then because I've never seen that in 1200 hours of playing with randoms and yet you get it every week

quick solstice
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Jealous of you......

static hound
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hackers def exist

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they should just play solo so they dont ruin it for peeps

crimson tinsel
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Waiting for the infinite Bosco hack

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Just an army of good bois

static hound
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anyone here not want a scout for the deep dive? like darkness deep dives

red aurora
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I mean the good news is DRG has a rollback save mechanic for just such a thing, so you can rollback if cheaters give you millions of credits

crimson tinsel
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What a true greybeard move. Giving money back to corporate because you’d rather sweat and bleed for it.

short heron
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alright, so uhh, i take back what i've said last week

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last week's edd wasn't cancerous enough to beat this week's one

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but then again, it's liquid morkite. of course it's gonna be terrible.

red aurora
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gotta love when people try to pet the BET-C without any warning, that shit is deadlier than any dreadnaught

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tell me about it, my EDD was like chaos incarnate, didn't say a word, popped objectives just whenever they felt like it but we did it

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very nonchalant dwarfism

raven grove
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Sometimes you’ll get a team that is utterly competent and just tears through the objectives without a word.

full folio
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Doining EDD currently

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second stage and hiveguard is not spawning setinals or attacking us. Anyway to make it do its thing?

sullen nest
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get bit

full folio
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normal deep dive* but problem solved jsut waited 5 min

brisk pine
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in my EDD run we just ignored betc

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we found a way to just go completely around it

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and we never went anywhere near it

keen sparrow
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Were do you get access to roles?

restive ermine
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edd was kinda easy this week, except the first time we had the betc, team was totally clueless about the Macterias and separated all the time before clearing the room, glad that I found a second team just worked out so well.

burnt sandal
fleet flax
fresh sedge
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Bulks and BET-C and dreads, oh my.

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Still a stupid kill count at the end though.

snow flicker
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hi

rapid maple
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Played this week's deep dive

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H O L E

thorny geyser
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just did the EDD with some people here, man that was fricking difficult

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bulk after bulk

shrewd bane
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EDD was nothing special, had a 800+ legend player with only 40 hrs Sconk
played like a bronze, too

brisk pine
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how is that even possible???

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i can't see how someone with 40 hours can have lvl 800 acc

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without modding xp gains

burnt sandal
obtuse pasture
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this weeks DD is extremely easy.. big recommend for people doing their first DD.

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the EDD this week I would give a difficulty rating of 4 out of 10 (only because of stage 2)

tulip idol
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nah he was just speedrunnin double exp missions

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I'm surprised he's only 800, could be 2k easily

shrewd bane
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they went down 18 times, speedruning to 100 counts i guess

crimson tinsel
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I took a new unstable OC into the EDD that I hadn’t yet used lol. Gotta learn on the job.

jolly hazel
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which

crimson tinsel
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Goo Bomber Special

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It’s a really fun one to play with. I like how, as an unstable OC, its downsides are basically that it changes one of the main functions of the gun. Since it’s being replaced with a different function anyway, there really is no downside. I much prefer that unstables do that instead of just take all of the ammo away and add a slight variance

stuck moth
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Damn Bet-C popped the dead egg and we had to fight both of them in the spawn point. It was a fun run overall

jolly hazel
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am i wrong to expect a player to know how to fight a dreadnought and not get downed every single time it does AOE stomp in EDD

burnt sandal
jolly hazel
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just frustrated with my last EDD run that i couldnt carry

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and im wondering if im right to be upset

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took big bertha instead of carpet bomber because i thought dreads were a bigger priority

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too many ammo issues

burnt sandal
tall meadow
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@jolly hazel we had a gunner who carried impact deflection the whole way this EDD

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He became best support and being engi, brought out the hyperpop while driller brought the sludge

jolly hazel
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wish I had splintering shells so I dont have to go all in with ac

jolly hazel
sleek stream
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does it make more sense to try to avoid the BET-C this week or to recruit it before the dread fights?

burnt sandal
tall meadow
plush cosmos
jolly hazel
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oh I need to try bullet hell first before I bring it on the edd

plush cosmos
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shoving people, friendly fire or otherwise

jolly hazel
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for something like a PE or Refining mission it can help with ammo usage

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gets in the way in escort imo

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and yeah way more harm than good in elim

plush cosmos
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Yeah, that's definitely fair

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"central hub" missions aren't nearly as bad as being bombed or displaced in a boss fight

jolly hazel
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bigger cave so bet c can cling to the walls and spawnkill grunts with mines

crimson tinsel
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Imagine if Bet-C actually drew some aggro

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Would instantly make her OP

red aurora
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imagine if bet-c didn't constantly drop bombs on dwarfs

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hate the friendly fire she can cause

unkempt saffron
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I for some reason always found bet c a pain to fight against but once its with us its just kinda meh

red aurora
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shout out to that time period recently where it just didn't shoot at all and it was hard to notice the difference

quaint hill
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Eggdive

solid anvil
severe tusk
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Dreads tend to really give newer players a hard time.

thorny geyser
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we used the Bulks to kill the Dreadnaughts

red aurora
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honestly the only dread thats trouble is the twins cause pub's still don't split damage on them so they keep regening the armour so I miss out on my weakspot dps increase notnice

thorny geyser
burnt sandal
crimson tinsel
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Dread fighting Solo dwarf: “Yawn this is kinda boring. I’m sleepy.”
Three more dwarves drop in
Dread: “It’s zoomies time!”

red aurora
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I mean makes sense since the dreads can really only ever go after one target, so your basically playing pin the tail on the glyphid while one person is doing their best running man impression

outer scroll
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how big is the caves this EDD?

crimson tinsel
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Pretty decent sized

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Sandblasted is usually pretty open

outer scroll
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the bigger the cave... the lower the FPS. gonna attempt edd tho

shell kettle
restive patrol
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haiwaiian shirt engis

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chefs kiss

stuck moth
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Playing EDD with a full noob team is the best part. We managed to finish EDD in 1+ hour where every stage we finish it with one survivor and very low ammo. It was a stressful run but boy was it fun

crimson tinsel
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Gotta find a noob team where the engie’s only overclock is the Fat Boy he just found

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“Oh boy I can’t wait to try this out!”

paper karma
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Are there weekly Speedrun records for the deep dives?

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I'm curious

old widget
paper karma
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darn i was hoping there was an automated speedrun tracker

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because like

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there could totally be a team that speedruns the shit out of them without really realizing it, right?

old widget
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Ehh…if you’ve seen true speedruns, nah. You won’t “accidentally” get a sub-15 EDD

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The game also has no anti-cheat mechanism so any leaderboard like that would likely become useless pretty quickly

That said, definitely compare times, it can be fun to go as fast as possible

eager horizon
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we did get about 15 oppressors tho

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overall a pretty easy edd

crimson tinsel
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Tuned Cooler + Hyperprop = Sad Oppressor hours

main birch
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Whats a good build for engi and the harder deep dives

tacit fulcrum
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Depends largely what weapons you want to be using and what you find yourself needing the most.

obtuse pasture
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my general rule for the harder EDDs is having some CC helps.. a lot.. depending if playing solo or duo.. or as a stack.. I personally like running gemini turrets with stun and Breach cutter with stun.. running inferno for dealing specific annoyances (menaces/spitballers/goo bombers etc)
As for primary either Turret Whip + minishells or turret whip + MPA or whatever warthog build works for you.. or EM Turret Discharge stubby or LOK1 with ECR/ABModule/Executioner.. i generally run plasma nades but this is preference.

flat veldt
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I really dont get how classic dreads stomp is way too fucking fast to get away from, idk if its a client or host issue but whenever I host its a normal duration for the stomp, and when im joining a lobby it's almost instantaneous, and the melee range is equally as absurd because Im like 5 meters away and I somehow still get bit by it, or maybe its catching up to me then its just unecessarily fast, so idk how to deal with classic dread very well then.

burnt sandal
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It's not too fast

flat veldt
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Im sprinting and its keeping up with me

burnt sandal
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probably connection issues

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tbh

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a bit of lag and boom

flat veldt
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could be

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cause I also see it teleport between places

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and then it fucking bites me

burnt sandal
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yeah

flat veldt
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Ive noticed it just teleports away if you place a shield down

burnt sandal
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happens to me too when someone's hosting with just an okay connection

flat veldt
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Im like really close to freezing it with the cryo and chomp and then I see the animation for the bite like wtf???

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Makes it really hard to fight it as driller

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Idk any really good way of fighting classic dreads in deep dives because I always seem to struggle with the connection

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and before we get the chance to do any hp damage it gets its armor back

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I might just hold off on deep dives for now until I improve, cause it could also very well just be a skill based issue, I don't normally play on haz 5 so I couldn't really handle a classic dread as a driller, and I certainly won't do any better as other classes.

burnt sandal
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well it's fine, take your time, you don't have to do the EDD

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You'll improve over time

jaunty otter
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Ok, stupid question, how can you see if you already did the deep dive this week?

flat veldt
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The stage numbers should be filled out for the ones you did

jaunty otter
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K, thank you very much :3

crimson tinsel
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I was having an awful time with a dread not too long ago and everything was hitting me no matter what I did. Then I escaped the fight to crack open an ebonut. The shell lingered for three whole seconds before realizing it no longer existed and suddenly it all made sense.

lime acorn
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so hey i am thinking about buying this game but im not sure can someone convince me but also tell me the negatives about this game ?

fringe kettle
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It's a modern PvE coop game with a business model from the early 2,000's. Maps are procedural generated with the mission parts stuffed into the generated map. It's a game built to be played for the sake of the game even though it has a couple progression systems. Micro-transactions are nonexistent and DLC is purely cosmetic.

lime acorn
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wait "Micro-transactions are nonexistent" take my money XDD a game nowdays without Micro-transactions oh my

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and has the game some bad parts like to much bugs like cyberpunk or not much content like in the past noman sky

fringe kettle
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GSG is a small studio with 25 people so updates take a while and are comparatively small next to other games. Those updates also have a tendency to be fairly buggy upon release for about a month as several hotfixes are applied. Usually nothing gamebreaking, just small things. I have just under 1k hours in the game from the day it release into early access back in 2018.

lime acorn
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GSG is a small studio with 25 people so updates take a while and are comparatively small next to other games. Those updates also have a tendency to be fairly buggy upon release for about a month as several hotfixes are applied. Usually nothing gamebreaking, just small things. I have just under 1k hours in the game from the day it release into early access back in 2018. thats normal in my opinion

crimson tinsel
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Also you get to be a dwarf and yell “Rock and Stone!”

lime acorn
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i guess the players that plays this game like music from wind rose

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thanks for the help you two

manic pivotBOT
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We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep_DiveDeep DivesDeep_Dive!
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restive patrol
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we want to remind YOU mission control that I am entitled to my 60 minute lunch

jolly hazel
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1 hour 20 minutes on EDD

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what a nightmare

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it is an easy edd in theory

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too bad driller decided to bunker on the uplink directly after two bulk detonators spawned

gilded bobcat
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it was alright

crimson tinsel
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Should have brought my Disperser Compound setup instead of Goo Bomber, but it was a fun first time using it. My extendo-flame build likely would have been much better.

jolly hazel
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whatever slows down dreads best

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our driller kept running out of ammo trying to keep it locked down

sweet bramble
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Just out of curiosity, what stage of the EDD did you all find the hardest? For me it’s a toss up between the first and third (first stage terrain was rough, third stage almost got me because of the two bulks). For reference I was running an AoE Hurry-Cane ™️ build with a stun BRT for all the webspitters, Mactera, etc

spring valve
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this week EDD? funny cause i fail few times at stage 2 with betc trolling position

surreal hollow
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hey

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i need helo

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help

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l

crimson tinsel
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I didn’t even see the Bet-C. We completely ignored it.

spring valve
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it indeed best to ignore it but lol theres a nitra vein beside it while the betc hide around the corner, luring the scout to trigger it, what a beautiful position by the betc

tacit fulcrum
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Is the betc position pre-seeded? I was under the impression it could be at any position.

crimson tinsel
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I think everything is pre-seeded for DD’s but I could be wrong

tacit fulcrum
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Well the seed is predetermined but not everything in the game is strictly determined by the seed.

crimson tinsel
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Replayed a few DD’s before that had Bet-C’s and the spot was the same

tacit fulcrum
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Example: enemy pool is, but enemy spawning patterns are not.

crimson tinsel
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It’s like how there have been hoarders showing up for everyone in the past few

tacit fulcrum
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Hoarders are part of the initial spawns at level generation which is also seeded to a degree. I believe the locations can still be somewhat randomized.

tall meadow
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she maybe in that stage but she can be in a slightly different part of the cave itself which you found her

crimson tinsel
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Strange. The few times I’ve had to replay Dives, she’s been squatting in the same spot

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Maybe just chance

old widget
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If there is a BETC it should spawn in the same spot for the same number of players

Number of players can influence the number of static spawns

tall meadow
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we lost a whole EDD due to Betc being in the way

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proceed to retry

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Betc was now instead at further end of the cave

old widget
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Yeah BETC is a curse on stage 2 even after defeating her

tall meadow
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not directly in out path

old widget
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Does nothing but get in way

old widget
tall meadow
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this was about 3 EDD's/4?

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back

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the sandblasted corridors one with 2nd stage BetC

old widget
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The positions can change after hotfixes

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Was there a hotfix released in between your attempts?

tall meadow
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nothing to do with a hotfix

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and not in between

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our team literally was a group of randoms that got on and decided to EDD

old widget
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Fascinating. Definitely an outlier.

tall meadow
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we lost a whole EDD because she was in the cave

old widget
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Where BETC spawn changes locations with same number of dwarves?

tall meadow
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and next run , she was in the furthest corner of the cave, didn't even need to go close to her

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4 random dwarf count as usual

old widget
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That’s truly fascinating then. 🤷‍♂️

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First such data point I’ve ever seen claiming that. Will have to keep an eye out.

tall meadow
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hence why the 2nd run the driller decided to drill further away from where BETC was originally found

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and ends up drilling right up to BETC's new location in said cave

old widget
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I believe you! Just saying it's rather unusual and have never heard of it before. Thanks for the info.

tall meadow
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I normally would agree with statements regarding BETC position not shifting during DD/EDD even with same amount of dwarves as this was what I believed myself too, I have to disagree with it now because of my own experiences

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Np

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It was strange for us too but still hilarious when the driller ends up drilling to BETC yet again

old widget
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yeah I can see why that would be memorable

jolly hazel
split marlin
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flat area is nice but refinery is in a bad spot

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man volatile guts nerfs vampire so hard

split marlin
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man I had a baaaaad time this week in EDD

old widget
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I thought it was a tough one to stay alive. During stage 2 I think we had 2 dwarves down about half the time we were fighting dreads. BETC bot-blocked us so many times as well

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Ended up with total death counts in the mid-high teens when usually we stay in single digits in EDDs

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There were also a ton of adds on stage 2, just a lot of extra trash for an elim

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our team was specced heavy on AoE though which kinda neutered us

upbeat obsidian
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I've seen objective and encounter objects shift around between DD runs before, with the same team size. No idea when/why the game decides to throw you a curve ball on something you've already tried a few times.

old widget
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Yeah, seems like the enemy placement RNG needs more research

upbeat obsidian
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Seems less random, and more like there are some factors that can cause the level to generate in a few variations sometimes

split marlin
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did everyone get five spitballers in stage 3?

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it was just endless chaos when we walked into that chamber

upbeat obsidian
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So many spitballers. My last and best team in the EDD made a collective decision to hang back and pick them off carefully before advancing

humble sparrow
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I remember running into a lot of them yea

stuck moth
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Many detonators in this EDD :S

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The big ones

bronze plank
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Yeah, we got duo bulks with Bet-C and duo bulks again while fighting the twins. Then a fifth bulk in stage 3 just because. What an interesting first full run ever pickaxe

fast nexus
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Lost EDD on the final mission because a bulk crawled out a few seconds after I started the fuel cells, couldn't leave or I'd lose cause fuel cells wont charge, couldn't stay because bulk is sitting on top of the fuel cells

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Bulks should be blocked from spawning during point protections when running solo because it's literally a forced loss at that point

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revived 3 times, poured all the ammo I could while up into the bulk, didn't even take a quarter of it's health off before losing

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Feels like the game cheated me out of a hard fought win because the first couple stages were already brutal with a couple downs in each even with me kiting everywhere as scout, so for it to spawn a bulk almost immediately when I can't leave the fuel cells is just cruel

crimson tinsel
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Really shouldn’t spawn bulks for any point of a mission where you have to stand in one spot or fail. At least with Escort you can actually walk away from Dotty to lure the bulk away. She might take some damage but the mission won’t tick down and fail.

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Wonder if they should implement a pause/restart mechanic like with the hacking sections

fast nexus
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When you have multiple teammates and one can lead it away, it's not bad, but when you're solo, there is no way to lead it away without failing

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even if you had to hold a button for a couple seconds to pause it, it would be worth it cause if I could have done that, I could have paused it, then been able to kill the bulk, and restart once it's dead

crimson tinsel
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Bulk spawns in general need some more restrictions. I’ve had bulks spawn over the drop pod door as we were running in and instantly down us before it was even all the way out of the ground

fast nexus
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Had that happen before to

crimson tinsel
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They should at least spawn a good distance away from any singular dwarf

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And definitely not on top of the objectives

fast nexus
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Do the dev's read through this channel? I don't want to unnecessarily ping one, but I also don't want this to get lost

crimson tinsel
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Post in suggestions for things you want people to discuss

fast nexus
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Thanks, I'll do that

crimson tinsel
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Just post the main suggestion in one post and then go to the channel under it for actual discussions

atomic prawn
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Wooooooooooooo, did EDD modded, absolute blast 😂

steel fern
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Man I got clapped by this EDD lol

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First attempt died in round one just by getting overwhelmed, second attempt made it to round 2 but then the twins egg got popped accidentally by friendly fire during a big wave of bugs

marble quarry
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this EDD was tough

atomic prawn
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😂 we did it first try

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very spicy, but we did it

unkempt saffron
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Im starting to think that its simply better to avoid bet c on stage 2

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And goddamn are there too many bulk dets on that stage, i got 4 the last i played

atomic prawn
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yeah we didn't even go near betc

shadow shoal
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Betc stinky

old widget
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scout accidentally woke up our BETC in stage 2. really wish it would've stayed asleep

brazen warren
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Betc on normal or elite?

atomic prawn
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edd

echo bronze
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bad time to use my sticky flames loadout for this week's EDD

tacit fulcrum
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Yeah sticky isn't super helpful. Assuming you're not soloing, I think sludge is actually the way to go. Much more powerful slow, and can cancel exploder death blast.

echo bronze
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yes but if i'm not using cryo i feel useless as Driller against Dreadnaught. otherwise im just deadweight with a peashooter. if nothing else i can renovate the area and look busy while trimming the arena-to-be

tall meadow
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Our random driller ran sludge this EDD

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Made my hyperprop life easier

tacit fulcrum
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Yeah the more powerful slow is super helpful against dreads. You have piss for direct damage (they really need to buff corrosive vs dread I think) but you can basically reduce the fat boy's speed to zero.

tall meadow
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He was playing with 200ping too which made the whole EDD funnier

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That slow made life very very easy for sure

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Ran the sludge and the heat EPC

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did a small hole whenever a swarm came to maximise his use

echo bronze
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is a proper sludge build more effective than the typical slow sticky flames loadout? enemies with fire resistance really chill my grill

tacit fulcrum
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I made the mistake of trying to run cycle overload on EDD. While its effective surely, it puts me in very dangerous spots and that usually ends in me going down a lot.

tall meadow
tacit fulcrum
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MPA is great and I love my skill cannon build, but it doesn't have the panic power I want at higher hazard. I'd probably fall back on my safe engi build which is stunner & clean sweep.

tall meadow
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Whatever works best for you is the way to go

tacit fulcrum
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I did rock the choked MPA build on a hazard 4 elite threat recently though and its effectiveness is undisputable provided I have half a second of breathing room to actually aim.

tall meadow
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Yea that’s how it normally be with MPA choke especially

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I normally already run MPA choke with turret whip, making fire rate mod almost non existent

tacit fulcrum
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I keep alternating between more pellets because MPA is accurate enough and I want that really big punch, and choke to be able to really laser acidspitters & other ceiling bastards.

tall meadow
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Sniper shotgun indeed

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I run either whenever i feel like it in EDD or Haz5

tacit fulcrum
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Taking fire rate at tier 1 makes the fire rate a lot more bearable. You have some spam for when you need it but its still a slow, paced weapon.

tall meadow
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Exactly

tacit fulcrum
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And then my CO build sits right next to it. 😛

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the CO build does shred through dreadnought HP but I was getting caught sometimes by the stomp when I shouldn't have been because you have to get in close with it.

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We ended up wiping on fuel cells stage 3. I had tried to build us a bit of an overhead canopy because of mactera. Limit the incoming angles. In practice it just funneled the glyphids in and we got chewed up.

tall meadow
tacit fulcrum
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I think instead using C4 to open up the sight lines, and me keeping my turrets in the same spot (gemini for swarm-tier firepower) would have been the smarter call.

tall meadow
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We honestly didn’t do anything to the terrain much that stage 3 mission

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Just the usual defend scenario minus that 2 bulk that decided to show up to the party

tacit fulcrum
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Honestly part of it is that I lean on the shotgun a bit too much so it means I end up in bad situations. Dash can save me some of the time but other times lag means the slasher gets me from 8 meters away on my screen.

barren mural
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Can someone suggest a Driller build for this week's EDD? I had some... bad experiences

tall meadow
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Gunner ran bullet hell stun which made anything flying locked the whole time

tacit fulcrum
barren mural
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I'm just not in love with the sludge pump yet. I keep thinking "maybe this OC will be better?"

tacit fulcrum
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Both cleans are good but if you want to truly unlock the weapon you should try disperser compound.

tall meadow
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I mean if you really want life easy mode as driller , cryo freeze fun

barren mural
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As for the EDD - let's just say Sticky Flames didn't help

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I might try cryo

tall meadow
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I wouldn’t advise sticky flames this EDD as much

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it’s not saying it’s not usable , it’s just not going to be my top choices

barren mural
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Oooh and where did you fight the first dread?

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Right around the platform seemed terrible, from our results

tall meadow
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Far corner of the map

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Big enough space

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Land slightly angled but no obstructions

tacit fulcrum
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It was saturday I ran it but I think that was also where we fought it.

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We also fucking melted that one

barren mural
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It melted us, sadly

tall meadow
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Same , I died more to random swarms in bad spots instead of dreads

tacit fulcrum
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It was twins that really gave us trouble. I prepped the ground as much as I could but they, and a well-timed nayaka trawler or two, really screwed us. We almost lost right there (driller was greenbeard too so he went down even more than I did with my risky loadout).

tall meadow
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The twins were trouble for us solely because of that whole cave which it was in general

tacit fulcrum
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If you clear out all the columns you can it can be a bit more manageable.

tall meadow
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Was split up too much , I was fighting below near where egg spawn was , the other 2 were above

tacit fulcrum
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We were also kinda scared that whole fight because betc was nearby somewhere.

tall meadow
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The team getting split up with low o2 made things more painful than should have

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I still find the most success of EDD with random teams than anything kek

tacit fulcrum
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"we stayed there too long" is how most hazard 5 missions end 😛

tall meadow
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Yea but we’re not some new folks minus our scout who was literally fresh out of the block so we managed to make it out :p

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I proceeded to get curb stomped by a bulk that came out right in front of the escape drop pod

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But the gunner and scout good dwarfs and got everyone up again

little mortar
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is there a way to open the deep dive join menu without running all the way to the console? it's annoying when you keep getting disconected on join

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hushed sequoia
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if you right click when the join failed screen pops up the spacerig wont reload

tacit fulcrum
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GSG plz...

tacit fulcrum
#

sigh
I don't like playing scout in deep dives. But I also hate how randoms never use their flares in the middle of battle.

severe tusk
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Yeah, I use flares pretty liberally as scout and miss them when I am playing another class and our scout forgets to use them.

split marlin
hollow brook
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Every time I go a couple games as not a scout, it takes me a couple more games as scout to remember I have the flare gun

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Luckily I don’t play scout for Deep Dive 🙂

sullen nest
spare sonnet
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Excuse me, mining friends, but can someone tell me if the Elite Deep Dives are a separate loot-pool than that of the standard Deep Dive?

burnt sandal
spare sonnet
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Oh dang

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So there's technically 9 cores you can get per week?

crimson tinsel
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And then the forge

spare sonnet
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Yeah the forge gives a few right?

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One per level up

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Sweet

crimson tinsel
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Good amount of weekly loot if you complete everything

spare sonnet
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So what's the difference between Elite and Not Elite™️

crimson tinsel
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Difficulty scaling

spare sonnet
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I must sound like a greenbeard askin' this, but I kind of want to save the Elite dive for my squad

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Instead of running with randos

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No offense randos, I love you

crimson tinsel
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Normal DD goes 3-3.5-3.5 Haz
EDD is 4.5-5-5.5 Haz

spare sonnet
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5.5???

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That's actually a thing?

humble sparrow
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Enemies move faster in 5.5

crimson tinsel
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Yeah but there are some third stages that are the easiest

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Mostly depends on the mission and modifiers

burnt sandal
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mind you, it's not that hard since you usually end up with tons of nitra already in your bank by the 3rd stage

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so some of that difficulty is alleviated

spare sonnet
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Oh dang

crimson tinsel
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Also a good amount of people value the strictly cosmetic core the least

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But filling in those forge slots is worth retrying if you fail on Stage 3

spare sonnet
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THANK YOU
+2000

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Maybe this is for a different discussion, but is 5 really as tough as I fear it to be?

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When I got all my miners at promotion 1 and beyond, but I'm a twitchy little man

burnt sandal
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The jump between haz 4 and 5 is bigger than haz 3 and 4

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the main reason for that is damage taken, movement speed and projectile speed

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enemies are faster, hit harder and projectiles are harder to dodge.

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It's fine though if you can already breeze through haz 4

crimson tinsel
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It’s a bit of a mindset. Gotta be more careful with your movement, placement, resource management, team coordination and health

spare sonnet
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I don't breeze through Haz 4, sadly

burnt sandal
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you'll have a bit of a hard time adjusting but it shouldn't feel too different. The same tactics still work. Good positionement is obviously more important than ever though

spare sonnet
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I'm too explorative, I eventually end up at the end of a cave with +14 materials

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And then get exploded

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Whoop

humble sparrow
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Being able to stock up on Nitra in Stage 1 at 4.5 helps a lot with time spent in the later 2 sections.

burnt sandal
spare sonnet
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I was looking at the different chapters of the union

burnt sandal
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Unless you're confident in your ability, don't even bother picking up gold for example lol

spare sonnet
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And I saw "Efficient," "Explorative," and "Powerful" as the shorthands of the chapters

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I'm not efficient and not powerful

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But I have a really really good eye for things

crimson tinsel
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EDD requires you to keep progressing even while fighting so that you don’t get stuck in one spot wasting ammo

spare sonnet
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That's why I stuck with scout for so long

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So basically play it like point extraction

burnt sandal
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yeah

spare sonnet
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Don't sit around on your pickaxe

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Keep moving

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Get to that minimum

burnt sandal
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pretty much

crimson tinsel
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Find as much nitra as you can, grab gold if it’s right there but don’t worry much about it

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Don’t get it if it would take time to get to

burnt sandal
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I'd say to not even bother with gold at all

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it wastes time and give you nothing

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you're not in EDD for the payout

spare sonnet
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I know this sounds heretical, might even get a reprimand for saying this but...
Is gold actually worth on any difficulty after you've purchased all the weapon modifications?

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I kind of like my dwarves the way they are

crimson tinsel
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Overclocks and promotions

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Promotions get super expensive

spare sonnet
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A smiley scout, a handsome driller, a grumpy engineer, and a manic gunner

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Wait what

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How expensive we talking?

crimson tinsel
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Like hundreds of k later on

spare sonnet
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Oh jeeze

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Is there a cap to promotions?

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I know the achievements stop at "Gold"

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But I don't even know what two promotions is considered

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Bronze 2 out of 3?

burnt sandal
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There's up to 18 different promotions, the last one being legendary 3

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but you can keep promoting after that

spare sonnet
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I once saw a player level 500

burnt sandal
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You can check what those looks like on the wiki

spare sonnet
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Oh dang, so like

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Bronze 1 2 and 3

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Silver 1 2 n' 3

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Gold

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Etc

burnt sandal
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yeah

spare sonnet
#

That's pretty standard, ok, so I WAS overthinking it

crimson tinsel
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Three more stages after that

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And each new promotion gets more pricey

spare sonnet
#

Gold goes to what then? Ruby?
Bittergem?
Morkite?

burnt sandal
#

after gold you got platinum, diamond and legendary

spare sonnet
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Are those the only colors then? 6 different character portrait surrounders?

burnt sandal
#

yeah

spare sonnet
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Sweet

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Thanks for the information, btw, I hope I'm not being too distracting

burnt sandal
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no problem
don't worry about it

spare sonnet
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For yer troubles

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Is it normal to have a stupidly high amount of Jadiz?

burnt sandal
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(also used to be the rarest before new biomes got introduced)

spare sonnet
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Do overclocks ever get like SUPER expensive?

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Or are they always kind of standard

burnt sandal
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Nah

humble sparrow
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I'm always loaded on Umanite instead

burnt sandal
#

kinda always the same price

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cosmetic overclock, on the other hand...

spare sonnet
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I know you can't get any minerals during a deep dive, unless you and your party run into a bastardly, dastardly hoarder

burnt sandal
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they can get really pricey

spare sonnet
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iirc

burnt sandal
spare sonnet
#

Nice

severe tusk
#

There are far more cosmetic OCs than I thought there would be.

old widget
#

it's...a whole whole lot

chrome quiver
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There’s like 2 cosmetic cores I’ve seen that I actually use so far

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Actually no, only one

jolly hazel
#

I dont get how I've only unlocked hair cosmetics without one victory move or hat

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oc that is

chrome quiver
#

There’s victory move ocs???

old widget
#

yes

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several

spare sonnet
#

Is that where i see people doing superhero landings

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And carrying a big block of RED SUGAR from the planet?

burnt sandal
#

yep

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victory moves also are from cargo crates IIRC

spare sonnet
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I got a handstand for scout

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Fitting

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But nothing warms the heart more than Lootbug Lover

exotic thorn
#

Is the Ommoran Heartstone an Egg

thorny gull
#

I think it's a rock

spare sonnet
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A stone, probably

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But I like to think it's like Dylithium from Star Trek

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Starship fuel basically

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So it's super worth getting because that's basically what gets our bacon-transport to us from past the outer ring

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Deep Dives are probably a lot cheaper to the company than the standard missions

burnt sandal
spare sonnet
#

Considering how you do all the missions with a single pod implicitly

dusk pelican
spare sonnet
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That's what a deep dive is, I'd assume

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The regular pods we probably swap between a dozen

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But when you do a deep dive it's always the same pod unless you're getting someone else's salvage pod

chrome quiver
# old widget several

Dang. Never gotten one. The only good cosmetic ocs out there and I don’t have any :((

thorny gull
chrome quiver
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I’d rather a full update for it than a mod

tacit fulcrum
thorny gull
#

Finally Obamium

keen lichen
#

Had a the dread twins spawn as a random swarm on 1st cave, is this frequent ?

split marlin
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dreads (any of them) can replace a regular swarm spawn

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rare occurrence

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can happen in deep dives, bad luck I suppose

random rampart
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Not just in deep dives tho

keen lichen
#

bad luck, yeah that sums up our dive

last trout
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anyone want to dive?

random rampart
#

In a pool of blackout stout? Sure let's go nice

fervent musk
#

hmm

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I got the achievement on this week's DD

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lmao

sacred stream
last trout
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verified integrity of game cache and re booted pc

sacred stream
#

thanks for the info il share it with the people that were also having issues

queen patrol
#

did my first ever edd as solo driller, fighting 3 dreads with sticky flames isnt fun notnice

grand halo
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I would probobly use goo for edd solo driller

old widget
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Yeah, elemental resistances apply to the slowdown effect as well, and dreads are super resistant to fire so they don’t slow hardly at all on sticky flames

grand halo
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Oh. So driller is screwed all three ways.

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Fire cold and slowdowns are all elemental ain't they

old widget
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Cryo + some form of burst DPS is pretty great for everything but twins

tall meadow
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twins just gotta hit them

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the rest freeze and DPS unload

timid glacier
#

I went Scout on the latest EDD, after all it was Sandblasted corridors, I recorded it to upload the gameplay in YT but sadly it seems I used the incorrect bitrate and looks with high stuttering

grand halo
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I feel like your best bet for twins is engi turret spam lol. Hit them as SOON as they come up

old widget
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Slowdown resistance isn’t actually its own thing, it’s the elemental resistance that matters and the slowdown resistance comes along for the ride

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Though in practice, all the things that can slow a dread end up slowing it about the same amount

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Because of how GSG spec’d the dread resistances

atomic gulch
#

this weeks edd is actual aids

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how u do this bruh

split marlin
#

which part are you having trouble with

dread in stage 1 should be fought on the far side of the cave where it's a lot more open, not at the refinery
stage 3 has a blob of spitballers when you come out the entrance part, easier to deal with if you're expecting it

hoary cove
atomic gulch
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nah first stage just takes forever

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and i was just tilted cause my randos were a bit questionable lol

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gunner literally just didnt use his shield

eager palm
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which admittedly was a lot to do with me spending way too much time killing every lootbug

unkempt saffron
#

I really like the idea of using a bulk det to kill those pesky twins on stage 2, might have to apply it later

severe tusk
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My random group had quite a few bulks during the EDD, including 2 on stage 3.

unkempt saffron
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You can easily average up to 3 bulks on stage 2

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Its honestly quite ludicrous

manic pivotBOT
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chrome portal
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Any advice for Elite Deep Dives? - Only ever done normal ones, and only recently did I unlock all weapons for all classes. Do got some overclocks as well.

atomic prawn
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just apply haz 5 habits

chrome portal
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Do need to unlock Haz5

atomic prawn
#

yeaaaaaaah, i think you'll be in for a rough ride 😂

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just get friends who can carry you

chrome portal
#

What are friends.

strong glen
#

Was there a Bet-c on stage 2 of this weeks elite dive for anyone else?

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Ive done it twice, one with a friend and one solo

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but there was no bet-c in solo

atomic prawn
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yeah there's betc

old widget
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Player count is an input to the RNG for whether betc shows up

chrome portal
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Bet-C can show up in Solo runs tho, at least it has for me

bronze plank
#

There was a Bet-C with four of us. I know the seeds can change slightly for number of dwarves. The last elite deep dive I tried a few times - with four dwarves, Doretta took a slight angle to the right and found a spitballer, whereas with solo, Doretta took a slight angle to the left and found a swarmer brood nexus instead.

atomic prawn
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😂 i did mine with starship troopers, was lit

strong glen
#

I didnt know it worked like that

bronze plank
#

It was really confusing when I finally acknowledged solo Doretta wasn't happening for me and jumped into a team, thinking at least I had knowledge prep. Then tried solo again after and tried to pre-dig to a cavern that didn't exist pickaxe don't make my mistakes, always expect the cave to mess with you!

main cloud
#

btw whats a betc

severe tusk
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I think there is a mod that increases helmet light. But you probably want to check the "suggestion" and "suggestion-discussion" sub-channels of this Discord.

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BET-C is a giant walking death machine built by Deep Rock Galactic which has been taken over by parasites and will be hostile towards you. If you kill the visible parasites on her, then you can repair her and she will follow you and fight for you.

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She's a somewhat rare spawn.

halcyon linden
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And can wipe things even in normal runs

mint creek
#

just soloed the EDD as a crspr driller, goodness that was rough

old widget
halcyon linden
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So wait:

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The next way dottie goes for drilling is always 210° from where the drill head is in one chamber?

old widget
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Yup

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It’s always a straight line, if you think about it

halcyon linden
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Huh

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That's, actually useful info to know especially as I run engie on escort missions if I can

old widget
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Some variation up and down of course but you can see that on the scanner as you get close

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Yup

manic pivotBOT
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bronze plank
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outer scroll
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welp time to enable compass for first time in my life

woven osprey
#

is it suicidal to do an EDD with only one normal DD under my belt?

sullen nest
#

what haz do you normally play at

woven osprey
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very comfortable on 4, can manage 5

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I definitely could stand to be better on 5, but 4 is generally not much trouble

sullen nest
#

I mean regardless my answer would be "just do it and see how it goes"
but if you're regularly playing 4-5 and can handle 5 comfortably then EDD should be no issue for you

woven osprey
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I would not say I can handle 5 comfortably

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but I definitely can handle 4 comfortably

sullen nest
#

well
EDDs are Haz 4.5 > Haz 5 > Haz 5.5
If you think you can do 3 haz 5 missions in a row without failing that's an EDD right there, more or less

woven osprey
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hm not quite sure if I'm that good

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I've only won 3 haz 5 missions total

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played like 5

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still fairly new

sullen nest
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Fair enough, ye

severe finch
#

Tonight is gonna be fun

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I'm 1 forged core away from ranking up and getting a mostly free OC, and there's only one place I have left to get a matrix core this week; final stage of EDD

steep cloud
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Just go in prepared to be a try hard

tiny frost
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So i'm still anxious when considering going into like haz 4 missions, and I haven't even unlocked haz 5 yet. I have access to my deep dives though, and would love to get into an elite deep dive, but I'm concerned I just won't be able to make it through it. Does anyone have any tips? would there be anyone willing or wanting to run through it with me?

errant grail
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just got my first promotion (gunner), any suggestions for deep dive based builds? I'm assuming extra ammo at least

tiny frost
# errant grail just got my first promotion (gunner), any suggestions for deep dive based builds...

I'd play what you're comfortable with as far as builds go. I'd say if you can solo haz 3, or 4, you'd do fine, shouldnt really struggle. Nitra does carry through between stages of the deep dive, so be conservative with it as best as you can for sure. Personally, I like using the autocannon/bulldog with born ready, thorns, and deep pockets for passives, and beast master and heightened senses for actives. that or you could swap born ready for vampire, and heightened senses for iron will, but that's preference

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I know in this week's deep dive there's at least one cave leach, so eyes to the sky

errant grail
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alright

vale lintel
tiny frost
errant grail
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had a friend i introduced to the game to the other day, and unfortunately i didn't get to introduce them to that lmao
i've started recognizing the sounds of cave leeches and grabbers earlier at least

tiny frost
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fekin cave leaches

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i haven't gotten used to the leeches, but i recognize the grabbers

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I need to get better at recognizing the leech sounds.

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I just let bosco help me instead lmao

errant grail
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kinda just have to use that minecraft creeper detection sense

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similar hiss

tiny frost
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i dont play minecraft sooo drillchamp

errant grail
next pebble
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Just keep your eyes to the sky when exploring a new room. You'll see the leeches light up

errant grail
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lok-1 helps there

tiny frost
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yeah but who wants hq watching you through lok's eye

next pebble
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There's no shame in backtracking to fight a swarm in a room you already cleared out.

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That way you don't have to worry about getting chased into a leech in unfamiliar territory

tiny frost
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thoughts on soloing the elite deep dive?

strong glen
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not the worst thing ever

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i tried to solo the normal one earlier but game crashed as i was going to the 3rd stage :/

tiny frost
waxen mist
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whats a good build of the EDD if youre soloing it?

sacred stream
# waxen mist whats a good build of the EDD if youre soloing it?

I think that generally depends on your playstyle. ive seen scout players basicly not use crowd control if they solo as long as they can rush the mission objectives really quickly. Ive seen builds for people that well just go full crowd control and basicly are the killing machine of everything and take it slower. I guess it really depends on how confident you are on your skills and all. I made my own build on engineer that i feel fine with. Its not even a meta build but i got through the last edd fine solo even on the aquarq stage. I can give you the build if you want.

pearl wasp
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stupid qn, if i run into the droppod without depositing do the resources count

manic pivotBOT
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simple tendon
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Wake up babe, new EDD dropped

fallow niche
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hrm, stage 1 doesnt look too bad. 2 dreads and 150 morkite, low o2.

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o2's pretty much a free modifier on solo in any case

junior tangle
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what biomes? my dives still didn't refresh

fallow niche
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glacial strata for EDD

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didnt check the regular one

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spawn room has more than half the morkite you need for the mission which is cool.

true saffron
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dreads in EDD stage 1 are classic and hiveguard

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EDD stage 2: 6 eggs, 150 morkite, lethal enemies

atomic prawn
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6 eggs wew

random rampart
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Inb4 escort shithole nice

fallow niche
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[softly] Don't.

random rampart
obtuse pasture
true saffron
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EDD stage 3: 7 aquarqs, black box, shield disruption

fallow niche
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fun

obtuse pasture
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ooh this EDD is looking a little savage

fallow niche
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i'm still trying to get this hiveguard to actually fight me.

obtuse pasture
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a stage 3 aquarqs always opens room for trouble..

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and the black box is is gonna make my solo scout run spicy

fallow niche
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The Hiveguard possesses the unique ability to drag fights out for far longer than other Dreadnoughts. Take care not to die of boredom while fighting this monster, miners!

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least it's only 7 aquarqs.

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in any case it looks like the last stage is potentially the hard one

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nice little spitballer firing squad waiting for me on stage 2.

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directly in front of the drop pod, about 30m out

clear shoal
clear shoal
signal pawn
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6 Eggs, 150 Morkite
250 Morkite , 2 Mini-Mules, Swarmaggedon
2 Mini-Mules, Twins, Cave Leech Cluster

Elite Deep Dive | Eternal Hook | Glacial Strata
Dreadnought + Hiveguard, 150 Morkite, Low Oxygen
6 Eggs, 150 Morkite, Lethal Enemies
7 Aquarqs, Black Box, Shield Disruption```
random rampart
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Ain't looking so hard on both I guess

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No escort nice

stuck moth
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Lethal enemies+shield dearuption😫

fallow niche
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45:25 as solo gunner. last stage was... a little rough, but the aquarqs are pretty easy to find, there's a bit of nitra lying around if you somehow dont have any from the previous stages and there's a nice little ice rink next to the minehead you can kite on

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black box is in sort of a ravine which is fun

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was lucky enough to get red rock blaster for this one, which certainly helped on stage 3

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hm, i think it's still the daily special actually

clear shoal
fallow niche
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yee, same

stuck finch
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don't forget to open the presents scattered around the map, I just got a error cube in the DD

fallow niche
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nice, i was wondering if they'd drop in deep dives as i haven't had any luck so far

mint creek
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had one drop in last week’s EDD

obtuse pasture
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sweet .. a zero death clean solo EDD :p

fallow niche
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i was doing fine until the third stage where i got downed like 3 times, i think 2 of which were on the black box

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bleah

mint creek
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the EDD this week sounds rough, though I haven’t had the chance to try it yet

fallow niche
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just gotta go fast on stage 3 before shield disruption really starts to hurt with all the spawns coming in

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it's a pretty manageable cave thankfully

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bringing in a few resupplies so as to not have to worry about nitra helps i think

obtuse pasture
fallow niche
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nice

obtuse pasture
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Stage 2 is gonna be a lot harder as a 4 stack.. unless your engi is on point with plats.. the cave is VERY veritcal.. if your scout is bad,.. that is gonna suuuuuck

mint creek
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thinking I’ll bring my trusty sticky fuel, should manage the stage 3 hordes, just gotta get past the dreadnoughts in stage 1

fallow niche
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well if you're going that route the dreads being on haz4.5 should help a little

mint creek
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absolutely, otherwise I’d be far more hesitant

obtuse pasture
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it was glacial sadly.. so dropped my usual cryo minelets build for a more aoe heavy scout solo EDD build (bouncy plasma + Embedded dets + IFG)

crimson tinsel
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Might just have to go Carpet Bomber again to deal with the second two stages and hope my team can deal with the dreads

obtuse pasture
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only 2 dreads.. and they are up front which is nice.. so happy no dread on stage 3.. I hate dreads and PE

crimson tinsel
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At first Dreads with low O2 sounded bad, but after a few times I realized it’s one of the best objectives for low O2. Everybody is grouped up in one room, not much traveling and the caves are usually fairly simple.

obtuse pasture
junior tangle
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another successful week rocknstone wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be

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if there's any good shield disrupt missions it's the glacial strata PE

obtuse pasture
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shield disruption + volatile guts + magmacore/hollow bough is big sadness

fallow niche
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give us an edd that's just 3 elite threat escort duties in a row nice

inland dome
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Add exploder infestation and dread secondary

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that is true death

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Put it on Core too for maximum suffering

junior tangle
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and make it low on nitra

inland dome
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Add haunted/shield disrupt too

tidal spruce
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This week's EDD in a nutshell: no health 4 u

fresh sedge
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Another NTP dive week

tidal spruce
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What are you gonna use for the dreads then?

inland dome
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Dreads EZ af for engie

tidal spruce
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Yeah, but NTP gunner ain't great vs large targets

inland dome
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Gunner's best single target is his secondary tho

tidal spruce
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LSLS and big Bertha go brrrrrr

inland dome
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Fair

tidal spruce
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When I say brrrr, I mean they go brrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Insert like 50 rs here

fresh sedge
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Been doing this for weeks if it’s not Dread heavy.

tidal spruce
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NTP slows?

fresh sedge
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Yeah.

tidal spruce
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Didn't know that

fresh sedge
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NTP+BRT on dreads is truly a good build. Especially if driller goes sludge.

tidal spruce
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So what about elephant rounds 300 damage to weakpoints bulldog

fresh sedge
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Not with NTP.

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Too little ammo and too much specialty imo.

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Also I’m not sure that weakpoint bonus procs on dreads actually. But even if it did, that’s very little versatility for an EDD imo.

tidal spruce
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Very well

obtuse pasture
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when you see dreads and swarmageddon or something like and you know you have single target + massive wave clear responsibility some roles have a harder time getting this perfect

tidal spruce
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Cryo driller is the best thing for this

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With ice storm or tuned cooler

obtuse pasture
warm light
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EDD this week isn't too hard, bit painful though.

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Did it first try with a team in 41m 42s

obtuse pasture
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It is a very friendly ish EDD.. you can definitely screw up stage 3 if you waste time though.. all stage 3 PE are like this.. get the job down or get overwhelmed

warm light
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We managed to finish the black box right as the first swarm hit

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Thank god for lures.

opal minnow
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Yeah ntp requires a bullet hose secondary

sinful grove
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our scout quit at the beginning of the last stage. We couldn't farm everything fast enough and got overwhelmed by black box time.

jolly hazel
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shield disruption

tidal spruce
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Lethal enemies before shield disruption. You're gonna be going in with 75% of your health missing

obtuse pasture
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I dropped a resup near the end of stage 2 to full up before going into stage 3 .. dropping into a PE with low health is always rough

unkempt saffron
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I got an error cube on stage 2 of DD, wonder if it is replicable in other games

dim gorge
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It's from a present, so it's all random. With enough luck you can get multiple in one deep dive

unkempt saffron
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Ah that makes sense

plush lichen
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Okay, EDD, what does it contain?

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(I haven't read the chats yt)

drifting parcel
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pins

plush lichen
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Thank you

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Holy crap... Stage 3 of EDD consists of point extract and shield disrupt?!

next blaze
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The aquarqs are all in plain sight from the hub though, so you can retrieve them really quickly

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we had that part completed and were well underway in fortifying the black box by the time the first wave was announced

rich sonnet
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whats a good stage to run it fast and gather xp?

waxen terrace
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isn't a double xp node better?

rich sonnet
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what is that

old widget
# rich sonnet whats a good stage to run it fast and gather xp?

Deep dives aren't really good candidates for grinding XP anything
(maybe gold, if you can speedrun EDDs, but if you are at that skill level you are probably sitting on 1M+ gold anyway)

My advice to new miners who are eager to level up quickly is to not worry about it and just enjoy the game for the game, the XP and unlocks will come along

split marlin
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yeah there really is no point doing DDs more than once a week other than helping other people out

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rich sonnet
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yes im new but id like to promote some of my classes

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jolly hazel
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Wiped to stage 3

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after our carrying driller left and our engineer went down for the 30th time

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not even a hard edd

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how big of a liability is a lok-1 engineer

old widget
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It’s fine IMO as long as you bring some decent backup AoE in the secondary

boreal glade
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i mean, i use lok-1 with ECR and can pull off hazard 5 pretty well. haven't ran the build on an EDD, so i can't say how good it is there. i also use proximity mines and the PGL with compact rounds. can get a decent amount of kills.

minor sinew
crimson tinsel
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Think I might buddy up with a cryo driller so I can bring Executioner Lok and hyper propellent. One shotting Oppressors feels so good

queen patrol
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disconnected in stage 2 notnice

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had red rocks also

brisk pine
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reached stage 3 of EDD and wiped on black box

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our engi was horrible

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died way too much

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i don't think i'm gonna attempt it again though

wind fern
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we went through edd stage3 with me as scout getting aquarks while rest of the team fighted black box hordes

radiant obsidian
tiny frost
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what is 1 black box?? on the edd? I'm looking at the description

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dark vector
wintry ruin
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Yo on turret arc, does the Stubby t5b proc on the arc

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Wanna confirm before I deep dive with this overclcok

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Haven't used before

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wintry ruin
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^ I've only gotten like 2

meager ridge
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I’ve gotten 2 error cubes so far

crude flume
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are Elite Deep dives as bad as I think they are? Never done one but I dunno if it's something I should get a group for or if doing it with randoms is doable.

old widget
# crude flume are Elite Deep dives as bad as I think they are? Never done one but I dunno if i...

It's designed to be the hardest content in the vanilla/unmodded game. Don't be intimidated by them though, just give them a try. If you can stay alive and contribute to a team in Haz4 you'll be OK on the first stage for sure. Some weeks have particularly nasty cave generation / objectives / warnings that make them worse than others.

Getting a group definitely helps. Grabbing a voice pod here on discord and hosting with something like "my first EDD, come give me a hand" will likely get you a good crew.

If you're relatively low player level, you may find a bit of elitism in public EDD games. Don't take it personally if you join a public game being formed and get kicked from the space rig. (This is another reason to host if you're fairly new to it)

sullen nest
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imo it's almost always doable with randoms
Most failures in my experience comes from terrain/modifiers throwing you a curveball rather than people simply being bad at the game
I mean, improvisation and adaptation are both learned skills, to be sure, but the majority of people I've played with are wholly capable of doing EDDs

obtuse pasture
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As someone who has buddies that I regularly play with that struggle in Haz5.. I can also recommend trying solo.. the EDD can be great haz5 training wheels .. just try complete stage1 as your first goal.. next thing you know it become a weekly challenge to finish it solo..then it becomes a finish it solo without dying challenge :p

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But really don't fear the challenge, fear not even attempting it!

crude flume
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Aighty then, thanks for all the pointers.

foggy pine
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Anyone wants to do EDD? It seems pretty 😬 , so I don't even feel like trying to do it solo

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fresh sedge
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A somewhat new guy DC’d on the DD today. B-Rend I think was his name. Poor one out for the ones we lost.

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If he’s in here though I’d do the dive again so he gets the cosmetic if he wants

bright cradle
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, the elite deep dive generator algorithm was probably made by satan itself

rustic sinew
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Hey where can I immediately look for the deep dive details

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?

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Cause i c ppl talking about the deep dive but no actual details on what the deep doves are

tight trout
rustic sinew
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Pins?

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Oh okay cool thank you

tight trout
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yeh

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yw

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pins are always updated

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when deep dives are refreshed

trail hound
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Also edds are IMO easier than Haz 5 since nitra is just never an issue

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Almost never

cold cove
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Hmm, this week's EDD is easier than expected

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Not easy, but easier than expected

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However it once again reminded me why Glacial Strata is the most annoying biome: Snow

sick stream
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drowsy holly
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on the final edd map our drop pod spawned in some weird pocket that was about 100ft down. had to yolo down it and grapple onto the pod as a scout. was kind of funny

scenic star
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I am unironically fucking salty

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Halfway through second stage, network drops, leaving me to solo my first ever EDD with no fanfare

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I actually do it! I complete the second stage! I do the blackbox, alone, in the third, with no decent sightlines, clinging to life and using an iron will and both bosco lives!

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I get the aquarqs! I call the drop pod! It arrives in SOLID FUCKING ICE.

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I can't dig to it without dying. I can't complete the mission without digging to it. So I die.

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GSG I want my fucking cosmetic.

split marlin
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F

sullen python
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this is why we play driller

scenic star
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I had a driller, then I very suddenly didn't

sullen python
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maybe u could try power attacking the same spot and running away hahah

scenic star
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Yeah, in retrospect I could've tried that

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But it was an aquarq map and the closest access point was in a cramped tunnel

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So with two minutes to go, I'm not sure that would have worked

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Whatever. Got three matrix cores out of it with mastery bonus

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I'll take it

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I'm going back to bed

split marlin
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last stage was miserable
is the black box location fixed? such a cramped place

spice mortar
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whats in the deep dive this week?

dapper zinc
scenic star
tiny frost
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anyone wanna try running through edd with me?? I'm not sure how far i'll get, or how well I'll do, but I'll do my best lol

drifting parcel
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man this week's edd is really chill compared to what we've had in past weeks

tiny frost
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oh?

drifting parcel
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Yeah, really wasnt too bad at all
stage 3 can be a bit rough I imagine if you leave the blackbox too long

near swift
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holy shit the dread in the big room with the flat smooth ice

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so much fun sliding around it with the minigun

crimson tinsel
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What’s the most effective driller build for this EDD?

old widget
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Yes

Flamer, cryo, sludge should all be viable. Cryo takes a wee bit longer to freeze grunts and praets in Glacial tho

crimson tinsel
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I’ve been working between puddle Sludge, reach flames and sticky flames

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Sludge would be good for dread but not sure if it would be worth forsaking the dps for the rest of the dive

old widget
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Solo?

crimson tinsel
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Probably not

old widget
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Whatever should be fine then IMO

crimson tinsel
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I took Goo Bomber Special last week and it did okay. Could have been better.

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It was also my first time using it lol

near swift
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holy shit

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most of that EDD was a pleasant time but that last stage was absolute chaos

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had one of the most tense fights i've ever had in this game during the black box

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just absolute fucking bedlam

crimson tinsel
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If you were to replay it, would you have changed your loadout?

near swift
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nah

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it was just a tough situation

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i got hit by a mactera swarm with a freeze bomber, an oppressor, two praets, a bunch of naedocytes and a huge wave of glyphids all at once

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cuz the black box overlapped with a swarm

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and i was solo so it was extra rough

wintry citrus
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i likely lost that last deep dive by a resupply not starting on first e press

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both team mates died in the black box crazy swarms, i tried to resupply to get shields to make reviving likely, and missed it by a couple pixels with resupplier

oak hinge
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final EDD drop pod spawning 20m inside the ice with no pathing through it, I'm a solo engi and failed due to a bug drop pod spawn yikes

atomic prawn
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rip

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20m is still diggable no?

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though i guess cuz aquarq the timer is short af

waxen terrace
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There is no timer

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Just the swarm intervals

spice mortar
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in the normal deep dive in the last stage what does "twins" mean?

atomic prawn
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dreadnaught twins bruh

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the dynamic duo

old widget
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Them cheeky bois

spice mortar
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ahhh tanks

tardy pier
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that EDD was ugh

atomic prawn
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it does say dreadnaught twins on the pins as well 😂

spice mortar
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i only have 90 hours and and not so active in the community yet so i dont know the "slang"

atomic prawn
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it's not slang tho

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i've not done the current EDD yet

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waiting for my avengers to assemble for yet another modded run

spice mortar
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well if you only say twins not everyone will know what you mean 😄

tardy pier
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Dreadnought twins, arbalest and lacerator

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the easiest ones IMO

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or let's say Dreadnought > Twins > Hiveguard, but heavily dependend on terrain

spice mortar
atomic prawn
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og dread is the worst with incompetent players

old widget
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stomp whelp, time to rez 3 dwarves

atomic prawn
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cuz they'd just chip tiny damage before it regens the shield