deep-dive-discussion

[charred radish]

Just that class

Wait nvm

I might be wrong

It's been really long

But iirc just that class

If anyone knows for sure let me know

[tough musk]

I wanted to speed up progression of another class with DD.

[charred radish]

Deep dives aren't something meant to be played over and over tbh

Just once per week, unless you're a speedrunner

[tough musk]

Is it playable solo?

[charred radish]

Yes

[tough musk]

Ok

[charred radish]

Rock and stone brother

[quartz badge]

Not 100% sure but it should reduce the damage by 50% (at least it does for dwarfs with explosion damage)

[pseudo spade]

Why is it that on the transitionary screen between deep dive stages, sometimes the gold/nitra total numbers are red and sometimes they are white?

[last hornet]

angery

[pseudo spade]

Still a better answer than I got last time I asked, lol.

[charred radish]

What was last answer

[brisk pine]

maybe they're red when you have a number lower than a certain threshold?

[pseudo spade]

No response.

[pseudo spade]

Considered that, but I've not noticed any sort of pattern to it.

[vast herald]

How do you see how many blank cores you have while in a mission?

[charred radish]

I dont think you can

[burnt sandal]

you can't

[old widget]

Interesting observation, I can’t recall those numbers being white, only red. Do you have some screenshots perchance?

(What bugs me about the screens between stages is the depth meter in the little animation on the right is /decreasing/ as it digs deeper)

[grave saddle]

It took three tries but I finally took down this weeks EDD.

Well, me and 3 friendly randoms.

Also playing this EDD made me fall in love with Driller.

[tacit fulcrum]

Is the betC pre-seeded or did I just get incredibly shit luck on our second run?

[jolly hazel]

pre seeded iirc

its at the end right

[tacit fulcrum]

I think so, it kinda looked like the treasure room but we wiped so fast at that point (even without waking her up) it was hard to tell.

Right at the start of the big room just after black box on stage 2 EDD

[jolly hazel]

yeah u don't even have to interact with her if you clear out everything before the last chamber

yep

[tacit fulcrum]

We couldn't find enough morkite, we were at 160/200 after black box.

We tried to drill around but trawlers, brood nexi, and pretorians happened.

Oh and not enough ammo. That was a persistent issue. 😛

[jolly hazel]

was she right at the opening?

she spawned near the back for me

could be player count related

[brisk pagoda]

both dives will only allow promoted classes. everyone in the team must be at least bronze one star to start the mission.

[tacit fulcrum]

Yeah pretty close to the start.

Maybe 25 meters down the tunnel from black box.

TBH I shouldn't play engineer on DDs. Even as plentiful as the shotgun is for ammo, I still don't ever have enough.

[jolly hazel]

have u tried our lord and savior stubby

also make sure u are using ur secondary lol

I never run double turrets on edd cuz not enough ammo

[tacit fulcrum]

Single turret, PGL with max-AOE and pack rat used very liberally.

[jolly hazel]

damn

someone else not pulling their weight maybe?

[tacit fulcrum]

could you mean the driller C4ing multiple people more than once?

[stuck swan]

I don’t think I’ve lost an EDD since the summer

They need to be more difficult

[tacit fulcrum]

I have 400 hours in the game and I think they're plenty difficult 😛

If you find them easy, its because you're very much in the top few % of players.

[chilly obsidian]

Last week’s EDD, in glacial strata, was a disaster of low ammo with bulks and dreadnauts

This one wasn’t too bad. Nitra was not a problem. I think we had dark morkite beer though

[tacit fulcrum]

If you have dark morkite you can be in and out of stage 2 super fast.

Which might be the answer really. That and not loitering on stage 1 like fools.

[random rampart]

Actually, only when you finish a machine event successfully lmao

But given this is the deep dives channel, then yes I assume that's correct too

[sullen nest]

dark morkite was the MVP this dive
in and out by the first "room" in the cave, super easy

[brisk pagoda]

deep dives have bonus nitra, plus the nitra you have carries over in between each stage. you can easily pass 1k nitra deposited in most dives, so theres no need to try to go the whole thing with no ammo pods, unless youre trying to challenge yourself.

[chrome quiver]

Usually without even grabbing all the nitra in stage 3, we have 2-3 pods worth left at the end

[austere flint]

when should i consider starting EDD? should i continue practice in haz5 first until i'm comfortable? im rank 40 w/ 100 hrs played. any insights would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance! ROCK AND STONE!!!

[frail zodiac]

just go for it tbh

[austere flint]

thanks, i like that advice!

[thorny aurora]

is this week's EDD bad enough that i shouldn't do it solo?

[wintry citrus]

i'm unconvinced i'd be able to do any EDD solo, but this one seemed pretty tame

the people i'm playing with were able to finish it (though nearly died out somewhere), and we currently have been playing 4 difficulty

[iron sail]

I thought this edd was easy the first time i did it

Then i did it a second time, switching from engi to scout

And ran around in the final room before the blackbox tunnel with no ammo for 15 minutes with my entire team downed

Somehow pulled a win out of my ass

[iron sail]

I did like 3 haz 5 missions and just went for it

[spark belfry]

Yo i havent played since U35 first came out. Did they do a balance patch already? Im seeing on the hurricane t5 burning mod it now says 33% damage converted as fire, instead of a +50% on top of normal

[brisk pagoda]

they nerfed it hard

[spark belfry]

where is the patch notes?

[chrome quiver]

Basically they nerfed the hurricane into not too fun anymore

[brisk pagoda]

#patch-notes-steam

[burnt sandal]

they nerfed one mod, dunno what you're talking about

[chrome quiver]

Being purposefully overdramatic about it

[brisk pagoda]

they nerfed the radius too and changed one upgrade from impact damage bonus to splash damage bonus

[prime egret]

isn't it 25%? in game I think it says 25% (and yes it got hella nerfed, it was super OP w/volatile bullets)

[burnt sandal]

the change to explosive damage is actually a buff
also the AoE nerf is 0.1m

[brisk pagoda]

nerfing the hurricane was unneccesary, the only thing too strong was VB

[burnt sandal]

the nerf was deserved

[prime egret]

well it was also the only gun with a dmg->heat conversion that worked that way which was kinda weird (extra heat instead of heat to damage)

[brisk pagoda]

scout shotgun

[burnt sandal]

hardly even comparable

[brisk pagoda]

gunner is supposed to be powerful in combat thats his entire job. hurricane was fine when not paired with volatile bullet

[prime egret]

it converts damage to heat+fire, so it also doesn't work exactly the same. the hurricane was just straight up extra heat for no cost

[burnt sandal]

and it's still fine 🤷‍♂️

[cold fog]

What do people tend to do for the scout shotgun?

[prime egret]

and just use salvo module it's so much more fun

[cold fog]

Haven't got around to overclocking that so I'm not terribly familiar with builds

[brisk pagoda]

it didnt need a nerf just like vb didnt need to get ultra buffed the same patch they made fire useless against dreads

[prime egret]

I know my brother uses special powder (rocket jump shotgun), I personally use stuffed or shaped shells when I use it, which isn't often, I prefer the zhukovs

also highly recommend blowthrough rounds, the rest is mostly up to preference but that helps a lot.

[cold fog]

Yeah, I'm a nuk17 person myself. Some people adore the shotty and I don't get it xb

[thorny aurora]

alright i might attempt it either today or tomorrow lmao

[onyx dawn]

if you aint flying around with Special Powder are you even really scouting 😉

[cold fog]

Alas, I don't have it yet. RNG hasn't been kind to me with the OCs.

[severe tusk]

Special Powder shotgun looks fun, but I would have a hard time giving up Embedded Detonators on my Zhukovs.

[chrome quiver]

Doesn’t the boomstick just add extra heat instead of converting some damage to heat? I know pgl converts to heat

[waxen verge]

Boomstick adds heat, minigun adds heat, pgl converts heat
epc converts to fire dmg and heat I think

[dusty meadow]

This one is very tame. Our group were player rank 66, 27, 77, 250. One didn't have an overclock and finished 1 hr 6 mins

[burnt sandal]

boomstick converts to fire and add heat

[severe tusk]

You can just take your time in this EDD and play safe since there is plenty of nitra. The last stage, you definitely don't want to be at the bottom of the pit when a swarm breaks out. As Engi, I just mostly camped the top of the map to draw bugs away from the group and stayed alive in case things went south.

[chilly obsidian]

We bunkered (yes yes I know) the final deep dive stage as we just got tired.

There were, of course, bulks to make that plan a bit dicier

[desert crag]

this week's EDD is pretty relaxing compared to previous

[chilly obsidian]

Yeah totally chill compared to last week

[desert crag]

i ran it with randos and our driller d/ced or quit in phase 1

still managed to complete without any major crap-your-pants moments

[lucid pasture]

what haz level does EDD run on? how about DD in general?

[tacit fulcrum]

Its custom tuned but EDD starts off around hazard 4 and finishes worse than hazard 5 on stage 3.

[ashen patrol]

dd is 3/3.5/3.5 edd is 4.5/5/5.5

the wiki has the hp scalings and damage of enemies attacks with the increased scalings

[stoic ocean]

(spoiler for 3rd DD mission) Any tips for solo scout ||escort missions seem purdy darn tough as scout||

or is solo scout just a bad call?

[jolly hazel]

don't worry about spoilers

[chilly obsidian]

If you’re comfy with haz 4, then DD becomes easy but EDD is still sometimes a PITA

If haz 4 is still “super hard” you’ll get your ass handed to you by EDD

[lucid pasture]

thats exactly what happened LOL

[full vigil]

Hot damn... Just finished my first edd. That was awesome!

Wish I could've gotten a good group for last weeks. I love o2 missions with a good party.

[dusty shadow]

Current EDD is rough af. Still havent made it passed the first stage.

[chrome quiver]

I’ve actually come to enjoy low o2 missions

Twas a very fun DD

[full vigil]

Low O2 needs good communication, and I love it when it goes well.

[full vigil]

It gets harder, holy hell does it get rough

[dusty shadow]

Nice, cant wait to lose some more later.

[ashen patrol]

we just need a teammate oxygen bar

[severe tusk]

This week's EDD was actually on the easier side, I thought.

[jolly hazel]

^

it should be getting easier after stage 1

critical weakness on stage 3 trivialize it

[wraith robin]

Did the edd reset yet? Is it still glacial strata with low O2?

[jolly hazel]

yes

and no

[charred radish]

It's on sandblasted corridors

[wraith robin]

Oh boy

With low O2?

[severe tusk]

Low O2 is the regular DD and it's for a drilldozer mission, so it's easy.

[jolly hazel]

check pins

[wraith robin]

Oh that's sick

Well nevermind

Lol ty

[jolly hazel]

np

easier than last week

[wraith shard]

deep dive still tough with 2

[quick basalt]

Are Deep Dives supposed to count for season pass?

[charred radish]

They give xp

Performance pass uses xp

So yes

[atomic pivot]

hi Im new on the engineer deep diving what should use on guns tho

[green frost]

ayo so how tf is anyone supposed to do stage 1 of EDD? seems impossible, been trying all night

[atomic prawn]

wdym

it's not even haz 5 elite threat, just focus the elites when you see em

[sudden falcon]

is this week's in glacier with aquarqs?

oh just elite threat, yeah didn't have trouble if you can focus down elites. play as a team and use your kit

[atomic prawn]

melee is 👌 and also bring stuff that hard stuns so elite trijaws n stuff don't clap your dozer i guess

if you wanna crutch you can also just dig ahead and mine all the nitra before starting the dozer

[sudden falcon]

also having something like slayer stout is 👌

[sudden falcon]

don't do this honestly, just starting saves more ammo

[atomic prawn]

nitra vs convenience tbh

[sudden falcon]

true

[atomic prawn]

like if they can't even finish stage 1, they ain't gonna need the nitra for stage 2lmao

[sudden falcon]

yup

[green frost]

I find as soon as one person goes down during the heartstone it’s basically gg, and I’ve also noticed I run out of ammo way too fast, my dps also feels like shit, but ig I shouldn’t be surprised considering I play scout

[atomic prawn]

there's plenty of nitra as is tbh

[sudden falcon]

if there's a wave, pull them up during the transition of the phase

[atomic prawn]

^

[atomic prawn]

that's why you bring field medic

[green frost]

Ah, I might add I’m a solo player, in the sense that I host pub lobbies

[atomic prawn]

1 down is fine tbh, unless it's gunner down on stage 2, then you'll lose one track max 😂

[sudden falcon]

doing the elite is usually quite hard with pubs but yeah just having preservative tactics is the way forward

basically, come with iron will and field medic

[atomic prawn]

ah yeah rip pub lobbies

i do 4x and 2x premades

[sudden falcon]

same, that's really the way to go

still have trouble doing that even sometimes

[green frost]

Ah yeah that’s prolly why you were confused that I found it hard

[sudden falcon]

well it is hard with randoms

[atomic prawn]

no problems here cuz we used to play starship troopers edd 😂

[green frost]

No idea what that is

[atomic prawn]

modded lobbies, extra bugs

[green frost]

Oh

I don’t play modded

[atomic prawn]

yeah, fair, since you pub

but yeah IW and FM as safety nets

[green frost]

I don’t have people to play with xwx

[atomic prawn]

and that they refresh each mission

i never knew that 😂

so everytime i'd be holding my FM/IW to like stage 3

[green frost]

I didn’t either for a while so I feel that

[atomic prawn]

i think if you pub as scout, the drak is a great all rounder

[sudden falcon]

overall it's probably easiest to do elite dives with randoms as either scout or gunner, scout preferred if you're good at it. speedrunning the objectives and nitra is the number 1 thing for EDD

[atomic prawn]

bouncy splash drak with embed zhuks and cryo nades is 👌

[green frost]

Well, unless I can find a good team in lfg here then it’s prolly just a gg for me for this weeks edd, Tho tbh I only wanna win the first stage for the blank core

[green frost]

That’s what I use actually

[atomic prawn]

if you just wanna clear stage 1 go in as hyperprop and turret whip engie 😂

[green frost]

As a solo?

[atomic prawn]

yeah

or in a team really

[sudden falcon]

yeah engie destroys escorts

[green frost]

Huh, alright, I’ll give it a go tomorrow then

[atomic prawn]

i duo'd with my brother as engie/gunner combo iirc

i did 4-man with sludge gun, did okay but i'd rather cryo as always 😂

especially with the visual bug for setting puddles on fire

[sudden falcon]

sludge is wild if you can cooperate on builds, cryo is just such a beast for everything else

[atomic prawn]

yeah but i did not have a fun time shooting mactera

sludge is just so underwhelming against anything on walls, ceilings, or in the air

[sudden falcon]

which turns out to be most things lol

still haven't given it a shot, but I know it does, at the very least, something cause my friend uses it often

[atomic prawn]

it's really good in a sense it shifts most of the ground bug focus to you, and lets your team shoot at other bugs

[sudden falcon]

also noticed it's some quality zoning. if there's a massive swath of sludge I just look the other way

[odd comet]

Aye, I don't really use sludge except on Escorts and Salvages, but the ability to coat an absolutely massive area in sludge, that lasts longer than a max sticky flames build, and is more ammo-efficient than covering the same area in sticky flames, is really good

If you run slowdown in the last tier instead of damage then you won't kill much with it, but you slow everything down to a literal crawl, which makes mopping up easy for your teammates

[fleet trench]

Just finished my first DD and surprisingly it was not all that difficult! Ive used engineer with Smg/breach, no overclocks, it was solo. I was taking it slow, setting killgrounds for egghunts etc. Two hours of play though. If I turn off the game after phase 1 would I loose progress? id love to play it in parts, two hours non stop is too much…

So until thursday, I cant earn extra cores in the regular DD? But I could try to get it in elite DD?

[wooden cargo]

You can't get any overclocks of stages you've already beaten

But DDs and EDDs are separate so you can earn them from both

As a Haz 4 player myself, I cannot beat EDDs without help

But I have yet to encounter a DD that I couldn't do solo, since I started doing them

[neat oxide]

I honestly do EDD's with pubs, and do fine. maybe it takes 2-3 tries, but I usually finish them.

[tribal totem]

deep dives are meant to be continuous so you can't exactly save progress, i'd recommend putting aside an hour or two if you plan on doing one
also a fellow solo engi deep diver, who needs friends when you have bosco and a couple of turrets

[odd comet]

If you're playing solo, you can pause the game and take a break, but you can't close it. If you quit or close it you have to start back at the beginning again.

[tribal totem]

this

[wooden cargo]

Also, realistically you should try and aim for finishing an entire Deep Dive in around an hour-ish

[tribal totem]

my solo deep dives usually take around an hour and 15 mins

this past one took longer as i hadn't played in a while but yknow

[odd comet]

And yes, the Deep Dive and Elite Deep Dive have separate core pools, so you can earn two sets of cores by completing both.

[fleet trench]

Yup, I paused and went for a short break after each phase, took me two hours in total but I was really taking it safe and slow, I was too scared to bust it 😄

[wooden cargo]

What hazard do you play normally, Szafix?

I'm at the point where I can do Haz 3 fairly effortlessly so that's why I can complete DDs solo fine

[fleet trench]

Usually it’s 3

[wooden cargo]

I used to be a Haz 3-er myself when I first started

[fleet trench]

I’m still new to the game, only recently promoted first dwarf

[wooden cargo]

But now I regularly do Haz 4 if I want a challenge

[fleet trench]

Still learning what is this game about 😄 lv15

[wooden cargo]

That's cool, my dude! New players always welcome

[odd comet]

If you're a hazard 3 regular, you'll probably have trouble with the EDD. That being said, there are plenty of public lobbies that are willing and able to carry less experienced players through them (you just have to get lucky or be a little persistent to find them).

[wooden cargo]

If you didn't know SZafix, the hazard ratings for EDD stages are

4.5 -> 5 -> 5.5

[fleet trench]

Do I look for them here in looking for group cgannel?

[wooden cargo]

There's a looking for group channel

[fleet trench]

Yeah I read that and thats a bit intimidating

[wooden cargo]

You can ask for people to join you for an EDD there

[tribal totem]

if you want to try the EDD good luck
i'm level 70 and have never gotten the courage to even touch an EDD

[odd comet]

And you'll have the best luck doing public lobbies on Thursday when they release through Sunday, that's when most of the more experienced players do them. Since there's no reason to rerun them, once you get past the first few days most of the vets have already finished them and most of the people still trying to do them are people who aren't doing well at completing them

[neat oxide]

but you can also just open the "join lobby" button from the EDD terminal in game, and just wait a few minutes.

[wooden cargo]

But if you are still finding Haz 3 challenging it might be slightly above your level. Which is fine, I was like that too.

[fleet trench]

Actually I found it easier to finish my „unlock haz4” assignment solo rather than with random players

[fleet trench]

What an possibly go wrong, I can’t loose anything else than time 😄

[neat oxide]

this week's EDD is one of the easier ones. It's a good one to start with

[odd comet]

Man

[wooden cargo]

That's a good attitude

[odd comet]

It's probably been half a year since I've run a Deep Dive

[fleet trench]

That is an excellent point 😄

[wooden cargo]

Speaking of the EDD, anyone wanna help me do it? I still haven't

[neat oxide]

and you can get a head's up on exactly what's in eacch part of the deep dives by checking the deep-dive-speedrunning channel. they usually post exactly what each stage consists of

[tribal totem]

also to answer a question from earlier szafix you can do the weekly core hunt that resets at the same time as the deep dives for matrix cores

not sure if that was answered yet

[fleet trench]

What’s the weekly core hunt?

[wooden cargo]

It's one of the assigments you can do

[neat oxide]

it's an assignment mission that pops up. it gives you matrix cores when you copmlete it

[wooden cargo]

You get a new one each week

It gives the same things DDs do

Blank OC, actual OC, and then cosmetic

[fleet trench]

Ah right yea did that one

I will never get a duplicate of already owned overclock right?

[wooden cargo]

Nope

I'm pretty sure it's not possible to get duplicates

[fleet trench]

So I just need to be patient to get the ones i need

[wooden cargo]

Yep yep

[fleet trench]

Cool, sounds good, ill try edd tonight

Actually 1 more question

Finishing 1/2 phases grants the cores even if I fail the whole thing?

[atomic prawn]

yeah get it at each stage

[fleet trench]

Excellent

[austere oasis]

current EDD is a nightmare

the trawlers

[wraith robin]

Hey does BetC still not attack anyone? Or is she good now?

I'm on stage 2 and wondering if she's even worth bothering with

Also just took 3 lives because of a grunt swarm and trawlers, holy hell stage 2 just backhanded me

oh BETSY IS DOIN WORK!!

Yass girl!

[wraith robin]

noooooooooo

died on fucking stage 3

jesus christ

[weak rock]

Oh god. I attempted my first EDD ever. Solo.

Respect to all of you mad lads, I died on Stage 1.

Let me describe it as: Neverending wave of elite flyers who ignore both my repellant platforms and my proximity mines.

[wraith robin]

breach cutter is your friend (:

[atomic prawn]

what loadout did you bring lol

[raw tusk]

is there somewhere i can go to see the most efficient mods on each weapon/tool/armor? i wanna be able to go through and equip all the right mods now so i dont have to worry about it when i finally try characters other than the engi lol

[leaden cypress]

look for builds in karl.gg ig

[supple quarry]

The only place I can think of that display builds is karl.gg, but anyone can post and I would not advice copying anything from there
I'd rather advice you to make your own build based on your trials and errors.

You can also ask in drg-chat, there is good tips to get from it, but again, you will have to be careful from who it's coming from

[leaden cypress]

as the mods choice heavily depends on OCs

yup

if it's from anyone but , don't listen to them

[raw tusk]

how long do i have to max the BP? i dont see a time left anywhere

[humble sparrow]

Undetermined, since the devs are probably working on a ton of stuff still. Also, this section is for the Deep Dive game mode (available after promoting a class).

[distant quail]

how difficult are elite DD's? havent done one yet

[old widget]

They’re designed to be the most difficult content in the (unmodded) game.

In my opinion, if you can do Haz 4 missions with 1-2 downs max, and can do Haz 5 missions without going down every time there’s a wave/swarm, you can step into EDDs without being a dead weight

[distant quail]

ok ty

[civic sonnet]

We need Zombie Dwarfs (parasites?) for the next season! Or somethin' like from the Ghosts of Mars movie

[prime pumice]

I want the caretaker to be a machine built by cyberpunk pointy eared leaf lovers tbh

[toxic kiln]

What are the purposes of the teams? Is there any difference on which one I join?

[stoic ocean]

yeah i mean the faction you join in the DRG community discord says more about you as an actual IRL person than almost anything you'll ever do. Who you're in a relationship with? Your first born child? Your job? None of that matters more than this

real answer: ||no it doesn't matter, just pick one that sounds fun and then represent it aggressively||

[toxic kiln]

Oh no, then I'll have to go learn about these communities for hours before I dare to make a choice! 😱

[stoic ocean]

oh i didn't realize what channel this was. You're talking about the community terminal, right? For miners, dirt diggers and cave crawlers right?

[toxic kiln]

Yeah, the green, blue and yellow teams.

[stoic ocean]

once you join one you also get access to a channel where folks regularly fight to the death for clan pride

[toxic kiln]

I'm a total newbie.

[stoic ocean]

#interplanetary-miners-union

welcome to the game. The actual benefit there is that you get monthly rewards and i'm also new to the game but i'm pretty sure the rewards are all communal and shared so ultimately you want all the factions to do well

and the "quest" seems pretty random, i wouldn't worry about that. The "Miners" had to kill breeders for example

[toxic kiln]

So there's not a competition between clans, and the prizes are not clan based?

[stoic ocean]

hopefully someone will correct me if i'm wrong, but i dont believe so

the quest is clan based meaning that only someone registered to that clan can contribute to the score

[toxic kiln]

Great, then I should not stress and just be a dwarf and make a blind choice.

Do you know if it is possible to switch clans later on?

[stoic ocean]

i dont know, actually. I haven't poked around much and also i would never abandon my brethren

[toxic kiln]

We started as 3 friends, I might want to convince the others to join my clan. 😏

That is of course, if I can make a choice. 😒

Alright, thanks for all the info. Greatly appreciated.

[stoic ocean]

fo sho!

[regal mango]

Any tips on soloing escort EDD missions?

[severe tusk]

Probably easiest with Engi or Gunner.

[regal mango]

I usually solo EDDs with gunner but yeah i was thinking maybe engi was needed just to have more protection on doretta

[stoic ocean]

yeah i can say scout sucks for solo escort...or at least i suck 😉

[regal mango]

nah i think scout just sucks for solo escort. he has to kite the swarms, but he can't do that and repair dotty at the same time

[glacial hound]

I unlocked deep dives yesterday, did one, did another this morning and than jumped straight into Elite Dives. Failed the first and completed the second!

[fleet trench]

So blank matrix cores: I should get one from weekly core hunt, two more from deep dives, and that's it? Is there another way to get more of those?

[long knoll]

nope, 3 per week plus the three infused weapon and cosmetic ocs

[fleet trench]

cool, thanks

[long knoll]

yeah, thats one thing i wish theyd change. or at least make them less random if the cores are gonna be weekly gated

but oh well

[prime pumice]

You can also upgrade your forge level but you need a lot of mats

[main jay]

oh you mean the guys in last place

[tall meadow]

this week EDD has been fairly chill

[leaden cypress]

Look guys

Look at what they have to do to provoke us

[sick stream]

Do you know the best way to get through the elite deep dive?

[shadow shoal]

Walking or sprinting tend to work pretty well

[foggy pine]

Why do drills sometimes make a step that stops you when drill up? Like, I am not even drilling at 45 degrees, but at 35-40, and it still does that.

[old widget]

#drg-chat

(Sometimes drills just be like that, bunny hopping while drilling steep tunnels is usually a good tactic)

[foggy pine]

Oh, didn't notice wrong channel lol

But thanks anyway. I don't remember that ever happening until latest patch though.

[foggy pine]

For this week's EDD, is double engi doable?

Or is it better to go scout+engi

[vapid coral]

Just whichever one you have the most fun with

[ashen patrol]

just run an rj250 engi

scuffed scout

[foggy pine]

If only I had it lol

I only got alright oc's for breach cutter rn, so I am running that.

The guy I am playing with isn't used to engi, but it's like the only option he has so far. No OCs at all.
I already did it solo with engi myself, and it felt pretty strong. So I am thinking if I should just go scout to compliment engi, getting minerals on the walls and stuff, or go with engi too, to get better performance during swarms, but we lose out on stuff that's out of reach.

[jolly hazel]

if he has no oc

[old widget]

With two static defense objectives (escort and black box), 2x engi seems fine on paper. Might need a bit of platform ladders to reach all the morkite

[jolly hazel]

scout just decreases mission time due to mobility

although engie doesnt "need" oc cuz his guns already rock

[foggy pine]

True, but It certainly helps.

No OCs on turrets anyway

We tried edd today, Engi + scout. While single target damage was fine, I had no problem focusing elite menaces, wardens, etc, we were getting overwhelmed in numbers.
Like, not enough aoe damage.

[jolly hazel]

using pgl?

i run whatever the clean ammo oc is for pgl

and em refire stubby

if u are using warthog, kite?

i make a mental map of my surroundings when a swarm hits and just backpedal blasting bug heads off

[foggy pine]

Breach Cutter

[jolly hazel]

i think someone told me earlier that its just plain deathmatch skills

ah

well

[foggy pine]

With +ammo oc

[jolly hazel]

then you DEFINETLY need to kite lol

line them up and mow them down

[foggy pine]

Wait wait

[jolly hazel]

scout just does his own thing while u run in circles

[foggy pine]

I wasn't playing engi*

[jolly hazel]

ya

oh

[foggy pine]

I play scout, and I didn't have any problems.

Just like I didn't have any problems soloing this week's edd with engi.

[jolly hazel]

well

[foggy pine]

It's just that I am not that good, to carry someone else in a duo, so I am trying to min-max.

[jolly hazel]

ahhh

i see

drak with bouncy ball oc seems to do the best swarm clear imo

w/ zhukov ammo mod+blowthrough

plus cryo

scout is not good at aoe as you have probably found out lol

its honestly on the engie for crowd control

and if he isnt pulling equal shares its tough

can you switch roles with him?

[foggy pine]

Nah, he doesn't have scout promoted.

[jolly hazel]

oof

well

driller and gunner both have good crowd control and theres really no crazy egg spawns in the last stage

carpet bomber/rof autocannon gunner and tuned cooler cryo are my go to's for tryharding

[vapid hinge]

wheehw. finally managed to complete an EDD for the first time!

first two stages went easy enough, but it all nearly fell apart a few times on the last stage. only saved by an absolute GOAT of a scout that nimbly zipped around reviving our asses many times over

[austere oasis]

are there groups on here that run EDD's repeatedly, helping people get them?

[jolly hazel]

are you asking to get carried

[stoic ocean]

are the rewards always the same order? A weapon OC, blank core and cosmetic OC?

[tall meadow]

A blank core first, then only weapon OC , then cosmetic

[austere oasis]

yes i was asking about getting carried

lol

[fair zodiac]

Hi guys a question.. As a gunner, minigun is for single target, autocannon for aoe, and guided rocket system is for..?

[tall meadow]

Wrong chat to ask that , #drg-chat would be a place to ask that instead

[fair zodiac]

Sorry 🙂

[tall meadow]

All good dw

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[wraith shard]

Anyone in Eu west looking for Elite deep dive clear? 🙂

[balmy ore]

sadly in SA

doreta missions solo are real hard, any tips on get past this one on the elite dd?

[knotty lava]

order 50,000 resups before you start, make sure everyone is set up to defend

[balmy ore]

solo I mean lol

[knotty lava]

oh

which class?

[balmy ore]

the balance on driller missions seems off, when you're repairing on a solomission you lose like what 85% of your damage output

but on a team of 4 you lose ~25% depending on class

[knotty lava]

less if you have sentry turrets

[thorny aurora]

boutta try the edd tonight solo

time to get my ass handed to me >:)

[balmy ore]

pray for no elite macteria, lose the fastest on those

[balmy ore]

true I'll give a shot as engi

[knotty lava]

breach cutter is pretty good at taking pressure off if bugs are attacking dorreta

[stoic mango]

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[acoustic oriole]

Gunner might be an option for solo protection, I don't use gunner so not sure, but what if you drop shield generator on dorreta?

[burnt sandal]

it's good enough, especially if you got all radius upgrade

[urban stratus]

Was pretty manageable solo as gunner but an elite menace spawn can kill Doretta extremely fast sometimes before you can properly react to it

Always target those guys first

[jolly hazel]

solo driller seems like unnecessary difficulty cuz u are boned if more than one elite menace spawn high up

for drilldozer

[molten carbon]

had this exact thing happen while solo driller the EDD

[regal mango]

taking beastmaster also helps

i solo'd it with gunner and just dropped a ton of shields

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[hazy dirge]

Ahh just failed my first attempt because my Lok or grenade launcher couldn’t reach the menaces

😦

[wintry citrus]

i've found dumb firing the lok can hit things outside of its lock on range

so in that situation maybe that is an option

[solid anvil]

Holy BALLS I did it... solo EDD with gunner, I had so many cold sweats

You guys made it sound like it was easy... I'm too nervous

[urban stratus]

this EDD is alot easier than last weeks to be fair

[solid anvil]

I forgot what last week was but I did it as a duo and it seemed fine...

I'm just a bad solo player I think

I mean, past the Drilldozer it was pretty much easier, but still

[urban stratus]

last week had the low oxygen 10 aquarq start....

☠️

[solid anvil]

OH RIGHT, WITH THE DREADNOUGT

lol

Yeah you're right

[urban stratus]

difficulty first stage of this weeks EDD depends on how lucky your elite spawns are

menaces are spooky

[solid anvil]

lol I got... what are they called again?

The kidnapper bugs

[urban stratus]

the grabbers ye

[solid anvil]

On my first try he grabbed me 5 times in a row

Enough for both sides of Doretta to break

[urban stratus]

ouchie!

[solid anvil]

It's a bit odd, but I managed to pull through by spamming repairs on her

Even with bugs and lazors I could still outheal the DPS

[urban stratus]

i got a double menace spawn on the third phase of the heartstone fight and they melted one of derettas hp bars before i could ebven react and drop the gunner shield...

still pulled thru tho

[solid anvil]

Oh geez

I was lucky to not get those :'D

Tbh the only reason I succeeded is because spamming shields and cheesing bugs with the ziplines is so powerful...

Took me 1h16

I couldn't imagine doing this with any other class than gunner

Anyways, I'm happy!!

[urban stratus]

Solo ive done EDDs with engi before too its doable
hardest solo would be scout he kinda struggles with large swarm waveclearing

anyway congrats!

[solid anvil]

Many thanks ❤️

[regal mango]

u should def try macro lens, it has no downside that can't be compensated for

[hazy dirge]

Yeah I know I just don’t like the tight lock on choke

[meager roost]

Anyone have a good EDD build for driller? Tried googling but couldn't find much.

[obsidian sail]

the cryo cannon and just smash your face on the keyboard when selecting perks

genuine answer is cryo w/ ice storm and cold radiance

always works out

rest is realistically down to preference but i'd recc neurotoxin grenades for support

[meager roost]

Flamethrower not too good?

[obsidian sail]

also perfectly fine the cryo cannon is just busted lol

flamethrower personally speaking i prefer to use sticky fuel (12231) or face melter (11311)

but it's very versatile so those aren't your thing honestly just go for whatever so long as you feel your damage>ammo tradeoff is fair

(also for ice storm / cold radiance i mentioned earlier personally i use 11212)

[old widget]

Cryo + cold radiance is really the only critical “easy mode” pieces for EDD on driller, IMO. Personally I run cryo + Tuned Cooler OC and aim for 10 freeze power, and pair with barbed drills and EPC heavy hitter

[severe tusk]

I mostly use my EPC to deal with clumps of mactera.

[lucid marsh]

the virgin balanced team comp

versus the chad 4 engis

[ashen patrol]

4 engis = 8 turrets to whip

[clear basalt]

or 8 arc turrets

[hazy comet]

4 gunners = turn every cave into a spider nest

[meager roost]

@old widget @obsidian sail thanks for the tips. I was struggling to get my ammo/damage balance to feel right with flamethrower but I’ll definitely give cryo a shot, didn’t know it was so good.

[obsidian sail]

definitely possible! but yeah cryo is honest to god just. So Dumb lmfao

[zealous coral]

Is the weekly reset live?

[lucid marsh]

10ish hrs

[cold skiff]

fun part about cryo is how it makes his melee stuff a lot more potent. running the melee damage up mod on the drills and impact axes leads to a lot of damage. also run with vampire perk to get that hp. the self sustain is really really strong

[zealous coral]

apparently having the drill up mod for driller T1 is actually a waste of fuel and only a marginal increase of speed.

... can i put a link here?

drill up for the... drills in T1 breaks terrain more often than damage up, but the volume break per... break is less compared to the fuel use.

[mellow cove]

Not sure if it's the right place for it

[zealous coral]

yeah i was thinking that

[lavish rune]

anyone able to help me. i got some help from drg chat but now they arent really answering any qs... i just w ant to join a union lol

[atomic prawn]

wrong channel lol, just ctrl+f in discord for the possible fixes

#bug-discussion message

[lavish rune]

idk where else to go lol. i have done a lot of the trouble shooting but nothing seems to work. just looking for human input. but will check it out.... lol

I was a part of one once. then i wasnt all of a sudden.

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[olive tulip]

Oof, just done dd

Will edd count if reset hits midway?

[severe tusk]

Yes.

I think you even have to log out and restart the game for the new DDs to load.

[olive tulip]

Kinda want to duo it but I doubt I'll get people

[alpine mauve]

this weeks edd was decent

aside from escort

[olive tulip]

Was busy

But it's not like I need the cores though

I need credits and minerals

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[olive tulip]

Guess I'll solo

Spoils my equal solo mission count across all 4 dwarves though

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Sad Void
Stage 1: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + Dreadnought Classic | Mactera Plague
Stage 2: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | No Mutators!
Stage 3: Protect the Drilldozer + 150 Morkite | Volatile Guts Lethal Enemies

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Gangrenous Gap
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + Dreadnought Classic | Low Oxygen
Stage 2: 10 Aquarq + 150 Morkite | No Mutators!
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Critical Weakness Swarmageddon

[sharp talon]

i'm entering stage 3 of my first solo deep dive elite

wish me luck bois

[sinful seal]

Gl!

I still have to mentally prepare for EDD

[broken shore]

EDD 2nd 10 Aquarqs + 150 morkite / no mutator

[sharp talon]

i hear risitas

oh no

[broken shore]

EDD 3rd 200 morkite _ 2 M.U.L.Es / Critical weakness + swarmageddon

[olive tulip]

Ok, escort solo with elite is cancer

[patent wind]

what in the fuck

I just figured out you can ride cave angels

I have like 200 hours

and didn't know that

that is amazing

[sharp talon]

I made it solo ! 😄

[atomic prawn]

oh lawd Swarmageddon for EDD3

suffering

[severe tusk]

Shouldn't be a problem if you have a dwarf or two that has good AoE.

[sharp talon]

Critical weakness on the last stage saved me

[atomic prawn]

but at least stage 2 is aight, basically shitty aquarq mission but easy mode dystrum

[atomic prawn]

it's just inconvenience 😂

[sharp talon]

I found it was the hardest

[olive tulip]

I gave up and just exited so the game could refresh for this week's

[sharp talon]

During the 4th phase of the doretta mining I couldn't fight and repair, so I kept repairing and the mining ended and doretta was like 5% health

[olive tulip]

Double elite menaces destroyed me on last phase of hearthstone

Bullshit

[obtuse pasture]

I feel that pain. first thing I look for in the EDD list.. is their escort.. no.. good.. happy solo noises

[sharp talon]

It's a miracle the timing was so tight

[olive tulip]

Why couldn't it be double elite grunts or something

[obtuse pasture]

escort stage 3 EDD .. solo.. sigh

[obtuse pasture]

I had the EXACT same thing happen.. hovering between 5 and 10% counting down the seconds..

[sharp talon]

Level 2 was not that bad because BETC helped quite a bit

and stage 3 is ezpz with weaknesses

[olive tulip]

At least this week's is even easier

[severe tusk]

I want to see an elite oppressor.

It would be like Rammus from LoL.

[sharp talon]

That moment when you don't have enough money to pay the jukebox ;_;

[stuck moth]

How's the new edd?

[junior tangle]

a breeze

[pliant moon]

soul like

[junior tangle]

I'll be 100% honest it's more difficult to find a working non-crashing DD lobby than complete the EDD this week

[short heron]

well, as long as there aren't any swarmageddons...

[crimson tinsel]

Looks like I’ll be bringing Carpet Bomber this week

Been building up minerals since last week’s assignments. Ready to make some more overclocks

[junior tangle]

well have I got news for you

[sick stream]

Is it better to do an elite deep dive with people who know what they are doing or by yourself?

[short heron]

michaelscottNOOO.mp4

[junior tangle]

depends on the deep dive, solo deep dives are a pain if you have a mission that's better suited for a full party

EDD escort missions especially are total ass to do solo

but if you're to do the EDD with a group I suggest you do it now, and only try solo after the weekend

[sick stream]

I have almost every achievement in the game, because my friend introduced it to me and he’s help me get most of them but he’s at the elite deep dive he won’t help me do because of how bad it is. I tried the one from last week and failed right at the drill dozer ending.

[junior tangle]

it's more difficult to find a decent group Monday and onwards

[fresh sedge]

Looks super doable this week

[junior tangle]

yeah, I already did it twice because GSG didn't register me getting the cores first time around

[fresh sedge]

Oof.

[junior tangle]

second attempt was rougher than the first one but we still did it

[fresh sedge]

What did you run

[junior tangle]

Scout with DRAK + Cryo Minelets first time around, swapped it for Boomstick on the 2nd run

[sick stream]

My friend told me only go into edd as an engineer, is that wrong

[junior tangle]

yes, all classes can contribute in their own way

better to play what you know works best for you

[fresh sedge]

Go in with the class you’re strongest with if you’re new

I’m thinking NTP and lean into Leadspray for the dread since he’s right away.

[sick stream]

I’m like 150 in blue level, and all my drawfs are almost silver two

[fresh sedge]

Sure but level doesn’t mean you’re not new

You are new to EDDs,

[sick stream]

I mostly only play scout or engineer

[junior tangle]

what hazard are you mostly playing?

[sick stream]

I went in the last three deep dives, with an engineer and one with a scout and got to level two with my scout

[junior tangle]

If you've played your fair share of haz5 then you'll be alright

I'd even argue with level 150 that if you've played plenty of haz4 then you should have not much of a problem

[fresh sedge]

Same

I don’t see anything on that list that looks extraordinary

[sick stream]

Haz 3 with 4 people. Two of us know what we are doing and the other two don’t know what we’re doing. And the new mission type we do is a hazard 2 because we keep bringing new people in to try the game and we don’t want to fuck them over

[fresh sedge]

Yeah you are gonna have a tough time maybe.

[junior tangle]

it should still be doable, but be prepared for a difficulty spike

[fresh sedge]

Yeah it’s doable.

[sick stream]

My friend and I have done seven Hazard five missions in a row completed every single one of them with no problem

[junior tangle]

probably not the first time around, but hey it's worth the attempt

[junior tangle]

well in that case you've got enough experience to at least try

[fresh sedge]

Then you can probably carry because EDDs have buckets of nitra often.

[sick stream]

No all were the first times we were trying to do that achievement. So he was a driller with his cryo-canon. And I was my engineer

We tried to keep at least the two of us and one other person with us because we know the more people the more difficult it gets

[fresh sedge]

Yeah don’t think you can’t do it. We are just being cautious about saying it will be easy is all

H5.5 is a fast thing

[junior tangle]

yeah I'll say just go for it and see how it works out for you, the difficulty spike really isn't too much more to handle than haz5 and if you're comfortable enough with that, you'll do fine on EDD

[sick stream]

Yeah I completely understand that.

[fresh sedge]

But I agree with Delta, just go for it

EDDs are fun.

[sick stream]

Yeah just the elite threat, with a drill dozer last deep dive was hell

[junior tangle]

yeah especially solo, not fun to do these things solo

[sick stream]

I tried solo four different times for different classes

[junior tangle]

but as long as it's not Shield Disruption everything is managable

[sick stream]

Yeah I’m gonna try when I get on I mean it is low oxygen with a Dreadnought so

[junior tangle]

yep, there is enough nitra for 2 supplies and a cave is really small

so you can set up one supply pod in the middle somewhere and work from 2 spots between the pod and the mule for o2

have your engineer set up platforms for eggs and just go for it with a scout

and kill the Karl damned leech lol

my first run we went with single target heavy builds by request of the host and we melted the dread quick without issues, and the rest of the EDD was more or less a cakewalk from there either way because stage 2 showers you with nitra

the 2nd time around we didn't focus on quick Elimination so the stage 1 dreadnought gave us a bit of a hard time, but the real pain came in stage 3 when we got another random one and all of our team started falling like flies between the Dread and a Swarmageddon

I spent more time reviving than shooting TBH

but hey for as rough as it was we still did it so it couldn't have been that bad

if I can afford my teammates dying 15 times on me and we still win then I'll take it over an Elite Menace spitfiring on Doretta or some nasty Shield Disruption with leeches and grabbers everywhere

any EDD where you can afford to keep falling this many times is easy in my book

[obtuse pasture]

sweet EDD done..first time I have solo run an EDD with scout.. that was legit fun.

For anyone looking for a good solo scout EDD.. this is definitely on the list

aggressive venting is one hell of an OC vs swarmageddon

[sick stream]

The hard part is finding people who know they are doing

Cause I would really like to get the edd done

[junior tangle]

yeah that's why it's best to do it immediately within 1-4 days after reset

after the weekend the only people that keep trying are the few leftovers who didn't bother before that you'll rarely find or people who attempted it before and kept failing

either way difficult to find a group with good synergy

that's the moment when you attempt solo EDD

[sick stream]

I just loaded and now there’s no one that’s even doing the elite right now

[vague sun]

I just successfully soloed the new EDD

I ran Gunner with Big Bertha/Magic Bullets

and Iron Will for emergencies

[atomic prawn]

this edd is quite short

[sick stream]

I play on Xbox, so it’s harder to find people that know what they are doing

[shell tapir]

oneshot the EDD but we all got 8-9 downs xd first stage is awkward

[obtuse pasture]

the egg hunt map in particular is tiny

that and aquarq + EDD = speed run or get overrun and waste resources

[atomic prawn]

30 mins for edd, 45 mins for dd 😂 that refinery and escort jeez

[jolly hazel]

pop eggs first or dread

for stage 1 edd

[obtuse pasture]

dread is right by the entrance.. so may as well get it done.. asap.. was my view.

[severe tusk]

I waited with a guy for like 15 minutes for the DD, but no one else came so we just duoed it. Took us something like 58 minutes to complete even though it was a breeze.

[jolly hazel]

the extraction+escort taxation

lol plus salvage

oof

[jolly hazel]

ty

[obtuse pasture]

then again solo dreads can be annoying to kite your way through and low O2 just makes it more annoying..

[crimson tinsel]

Is there a good starting room on Stage 1?

[obtuse pasture]

yeah.. standard egg map

so rounding open room with the usual drop whole

[crimson tinsel]

Just going to gather nitra first and stagger some resupply pods

[obtuse pasture]

at most you will need to stagger ONE resup.. map is tiny tiny

[crimson tinsel]

Oh okay

Just don’t want Dread sitting on the O2

[obtuse pasture]

solo scout.. i only dropped the resup in the starting room.. that easy

just used molly as my O2 mule for the egg chamber

[crimson tinsel]

It it classic dread?

[jolly hazel]

yes it says in pins

[obtuse pasture]

I was running AV Drak.. which is not the best tool in the world for opening the dread booty for embedded det fun

[brisk pollen]

Hazard 5.5
Swarmageddon
Oh no

Also whats with the last EDD mission having Crit Weakness as of late?

[river pawn]

cant believe i have nearly 300 hours and have never done a solo DD

[stoic ocean]

never even tried it or never successful?

[old widget]

second message in the channel pinned messages here is a Google doc that has the full history of every DD/EDD

[river pawn]

never tried

[humble sparrow]

Didn't expect the pod to land right beside me in DD stage 1

[dusty meadow]

Really easy edd. Small maps, fast. Kinda boring. Sub 38 mins.

[quaint lake]

try doing solo DD with no music and no bosco

turn deep rock into a horror experience

oh and also no flashlight

[vapid hinge]

how's the edd difficulty level this week?

[fathom arch]

^this

[obtuse pasture]

i have done this.. but did it with 2x flashlight mod and disabled flares (not scout and unbound the flare button due to muscle memory).. just me my headlamp and my guns.. pretty damn fun

[severe tusk]

Looks easy, although I have not tried it yet myself.

[obtuse pasture]

easy.. about the same as last week probably easier.. correction definitely easier

There is no ludicrous garbage this week.. the low O2 mission is small/simple and easy cave layout.. and the swarmageddon has crit weakness.. so wave clear build + 1 dread kill in stage 1 and you are pretty much done

the only chance to really mess up this EDD is stage 2 and wasting too much time on the aquarqs and even then the map is not that vertical

[merry pagoda]

Im guessing this EDD is good for starting out

Ill try it when I get home

[river pawn]

doing DD stage 3 with bosco as scout, i hate these missions lol

at least the flying rocks are easy to kill

[humble sparrow]

Why would you take Scout with Escort in the list?

[river pawn]

didnt check lol

[humble sparrow]

Ah, best of luck then

[river pawn]

at least the EDD has no escort this time around

[merry pagoda]

thank god

scout is the only one I have promoted lol

[vapid hinge]

i didn't think escort was too difficult last week

[river pawn]

shit how does scout handle the final phase lol

[brisk pine]

i finished the EDD with randoms in less than 40 minutes

[river pawn]

i survived the other 3 with no damage so maybe i can just tank it

[humble sparrow]

Hope you didn't take M1K probably

[river pawn]

nah, drak and embedded dets

[obtuse pasture]

zip at the pillar tip, power slam at the top

or land directly on top of one and 2-3 tap

[sullen nest]

lmao
I'm on stage two of the EDD
got all the objectives done, spent the two minutes kiting enemies waiting for the pod
notice the pod is landing 90 meters away
"wait a minute, this cave isn't that big"
drop pod landed completely off the map, I've spent the last 60 seconds running around trying to find where the hell the tunnel to the pod is, I'm solo scout with 2 swarms worth of bugs after me, can't dig to it, got two minutes left before the pod leaves and I'm sitting in the pause menu now so the timer doesn't continue counting down trying to figure out my options

:')

[river pawn]

lol i just abused that repairing doretta to 100% gives her invincibility

gives me ample time to mine out a pillar

[humble sparrow]

Bosco can deal with the laser towers too

[vapid hinge]

oh? what is that? haven't heard of that before

[old widget]

yeah it gives dotty 2-3-ish seconds of invul each time you repair a panel to 100% / white

[sullen nest]

ok, found my way out with 60 seconds left, phew
if that was anyone but scout I'm absolutely certain I'd be dead

And I was just about to say that this week's EDD was easier than normal
only for the damn drop pod of all things to kick my ass

[quaint lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV1uvUF1L7M

[sullen nest]

ok, I'm actually pretty happy with this one
sub-45, no downs, solo scout EDD

https://lithi.io/file/EVb3.jpg

[drifting parcel]

what build did you use

[sullen nest]

https://lithi.io/file/ODNm.png

[quaint lake]

why even use iron will

unless no bosco I guess

[sullen nest]

free revive, why not
the real question is why field medic when solo, and it's because I only use one loadout for solo and multiplayer

too lazy

[obtuse pasture]

aggrovent MVP in stage 3 right? .. felt so good on my run

[sullen nest]

yes lmao

antiswarmer, very comfy

[obtuse pasture]

feels a little wild running INTO a swarm.. but damn it feels good to be a gangsta

[odd path]

So, egg hunt primary objectives in DDs. Is it like the regular mission where the only announced swarm should be your egg swarms?

[sullen nest]

I think so

[odd path]

So no sweat killing the dread in stage 1 save passive nibbling. Poggers.

[sullen nest]

yup
I just popped it first, then got all four eggs at once once it was done since they were all in the same room
kite until the pod lands and hope you don't die
had no ammo at the end of the stage, but whatever

might go less smooth in a 4man though

[foggy pine]

How ez this week's edd?

Compared to last week and week before that.

[sullen nest]

Fairly ez
I sure hope nobody else has to experience the heart attack moment of having no idea where the pod is on stage two like I did though 🙃

[odd path]

Yeah stages 1 and 2 look annoying but I just don't like PEs

[sullen nest]

I think drop pod landing spot is random, right
like, random between deep dives that is

[odd path]

Not too bad tho

[foggy pine]

Would Driller be the best for solo normal deep dive? Seeing that it got refinery.

EDD seems like any class could work.

[humble sparrow]

Driller would speed up the Refinery part, Dread might slow things down again. Sandblasted only takes 1 hit so it isn't too bad with other classes.

[fresh sedge]

It’s also DD and bosco does some work at H3

[foggy pine]

Oh, right, it's sand

[fresh sedge]

Run ice storm and bulldoze the whole thing with heavy hitter EPC

[foggy pine]

Nah, I use explosive reload subata for ice storm cryo

[humble sparrow]

The rocks of escort might suck as Driller though, I was packing Lead (Spray) BRT for shredding as gunner.

[obtuse pasture]

there is only 1 "far place" with the extra nitra down the the tight tunnel.. (where i died twice to my own stupidity)

[obtuse pasture]

you can EPC (TCF specifically)/impact axe rocks if necessary

[sullen nest]

yup
it took me pausing the game and scanning my replay footage like three times to realize "wait, there's a tunnel I never explored"
I guarantee if I didn't have that semi-cheating hindsight technology I would have lost the dive from that

[fleet trench]

previous deep dive, mission 3, i died 10 meters away from the pod with no revives left. Iron will won the mission...

Also I just did the DD solo (second one for me) and im very happy with it being a new level~20 noob 😄

[quaint lake]

running iron will on scout is just having 0 self-confidence

[random rampart]

yes, hi, hello, good morning :)

[sullen nest]

It's an insurance policy for reviving your dead teammates mid-swarm :^)
But no really, I switched to iron will field medic to help my team
for solo you are probably right that neither one is needed

In any case, does it even matter

[rose pilot]

With vampire it becomes just a self rev

[sullen nest]

even without as long as there's red sugar within 100m it's a self revive

but vampire is much more convenient

[jolly hazel]

I just got ice storm how do u build it

only asking here cuz u mentioned it here

[knotty lava]

very carefully

[restive trout]

I have barely any frame of reference. How difficult is this EDD compared to the last one and compared overall?

[sullen nest]

it's gud, easier than normal imo
first stage is low O2 which sucks but it's a very tiny cave with no natural swarms and so not a big deal (also lowest Haz of the three, so)
second is point extraction which can be a pain especially with ten aquarqs, but between no modifiers at all and having all the aquarqs within spitting distance of the mine head, it's pretty smooth and straightforward to get in and out before it ramps up
third stage is crit weakness so it would be easy no matter what the mission was
just bring something to handle the swarmageddon modifier and you'll be good

[restive trout]

Are the caves always the same? Or are they randomized within their parameters?

[random rampart]

for deep dives, they're fixed

[sullen nest]

caves are the same, I think some static spawns change depending on team size(?), other things like swarm timers and such are random

[random rampart]

for normal missions, randomized

[restive trout]

I see. Thank you.

[quaint lake]

so I decided to count how much HP I healed that stage 3 with vampire, and counted it proc 77 times, that means I healed 385 hp, and that's just stage 3

using elemental insulation probably has similar effect, but you lose out on HP saved when your shields are still up

[humble sparrow]

Good lord I made a good call putting up a zipline back up in EDD stage 1

[fresh sedge]

Ammo damage and cold radiance

Cold radiance is beyond OP atm and will give you a ton of staying power that fragile cannot offer.

[hushed sequoia]

just got 35:11 on the edd

i think i died more to friendly fire and the gas plants than anything else

[fresh sedge]

Pretty pümped for the dives

[severe tusk]

Yeah, you maybe get more kills yourself running Fragile, but Cold Radiance is better for the team, and you just freeze everything and let your teammates mop up.

[hushed sequoia]

a 200 morkite mission with swarmageddon and critical weakness is easily the most intense 3rd elite deep dive stage i have ever played

[fresh sedge]

Should only do one wave on that tho

200?

[severe tusk]

Wait until you get a point extraction with swarmageddon and a dread for the 3rd stage on a map with hazardous terrain.

[sage carbon]

whats a good all around build for the thunderhead? trying out gunner

[lucid trellis]

Try combat mobility

Or aoe with the defence buff at max rate of fire

[severe tusk]

I like Big Bertha for AC.

[sage carbon]

thanks!

[sage carbon]

what mods do u have with that?

[burnt sandal]

clean sweep, 33X2X

[sage carbon]

sweet, thanks!

[void hare]

there was so much nitra in this dd

i got 1k total minerals mined as a scout

[humble sparrow]

Apparently taking way too long in Haz 4 missions has prepared me for Haz 5 runs.

The Swarmageaddeon is the worst part about Stage 3, Warderns are a close 2nd.

[patent light]

Good lord the regular deep dive missions are yucky.

Fungus Bogs was the worst part about EDD.

[severe tusk]

33111 for Big Bertha, although you can go 33121 too for more AoE, especially since armor break is bugged atm.

[humble sparrow]

Gunner ziplines, Dash, Unstoppable, and Second Wind let me floor it between objective/combat sections.

[brisk pine]

i used cryo driller on EDD

just froze the swarmers as they came in

[upper geyser]

annnnnnnnnd just got disconnected halfway through stage 3

oof, at least that edd isn't too bad

[wraith shard]

Saw a mod to make the regular deep dives easier

Why though 😦

[obsidian lily]

there should be a deep dive specific looking for group

[supple jewel]

and for DD it's better too

flamer aint good vs dread

[foggy pine]

Failed on PE because It took me too long to find one last stone and I simply got overrun. 😂

[quiet wyvern]

rip

[foggy pine]

I did find it, but it was too late.

Retry should go smoother.

[vapid hinge]

woohoo, second successfully completed EDD! and in faster time than the DD this week, lol

[wraith shard]

what about the goo weapon?

[iron sail]

Your going to goo on everything?

[wraith shard]

goo is ok on dreads

not as good as ice but much better than fire

slows dreads and keeps a DOT on them

[severe tusk]

I actually started using the goo gun on driller in dread missions. I like it. With Cryo you're trying to freeze the dreads but that can get you caught in a big AoE attack when you're trying to get cold radiance to kick in. I think I'll use it for drilldozer missions too, flame for the sabotage missions, and cryo for everything else.

[iron sail]

I think the idea of gooing on a dreadnaut makes it better then flamethrower

[foggy pine]

This EDD was even more intense than the last one. Somehow managed to only die once, when retrying.

And I kinda feel like I made it harder for myself, by bringing lead storm. It felt kinda underwhelming.

I would always be very close to being overrun. Even though I am kiting and shooting through multiple bugs with blowthrough rounds.

Only cluster grenade would save me.

Feels like engi would be better, with pgl/breach cutter and proximity mines.

Also fighting dread with minigun + brt7 took a long time. Would it be better to bring bulldog instead just for dread?

I just relied on brt7 stun a lot, dunno if it would be a worthy exchange.

[iron sail]

Well

I would say that the bulldog is better for direct damage

Being able to one shot if criting all grunts exept guards i believe

But

The burst gun is better for sustain and general use

With stun on every burst

So

Its just preferance

[foggy pine]

How do you actually fight dreads solo with a gunner, maybe I am doing something wrong.

[iron sail]

Its hard with leadstorm

But good dpa

[foggy pine]

I would jump around on the zipline, and use times where he isn't turning to shoot him.

[iron sail]

Dps

[foggy pine]

Would it be better to just disregard ziplines, and I dunno, bait him into doing that AOE slam or whatever it is.

[severe tusk]

Dash would help too.

[foggy pine]

'Cause he stands still for a long time

Yeah, I have dash.

That's how I kited lol.
Otherwise it would probably be impossible.

[iron sail]

You just need to foucus on getting them into an action like fireballing then capitalize with running around as fast as you can

[foggy pine]

So you bait attacks and then shoot.

k

[iron sail]

Zip strat solo is not the greatest idea imo

It can work

But your better off on the ground

[foggy pine]

Well it worked was very safe. Just took a long time.

[severe tusk]

I think you can also get Bosco to freeze a dread with cryo rockets. I think I saw someone do that in a video, but I don't play solo so I can't confirm.

[foggy pine]

Nah, I don't use freeze

[iron sail]

Freeze is best option for rockets

[foggy pine]

Yeah, I feel like zipline strat on dread was holding me back actually.

Because I was also using engi for eliminations lately, and I did much better with him, by just running around.

Anyway, is minigun actually not that good in solo, for swarm control?
Kiting and making bugs go in a straight line, and just shooting through all of them in nice, but it doesn't always work. Like for example if you need to drop a shield, they all scram, like in a circle.

Armour break still being bugged doesn't help

[severe tusk]

I've seen people with minigun succeed on haz 5 with 2x enemy mods, so you can make it work. Or just take cluster grenades and maybe magic bullets on bulldog if you're worried about handling swarms.

[foggy pine]

Got vid for that? Might be useful to use as an example.

[severe tusk]

I just used a Big Bertha generalist build on Gunner for like 150 player levels.

Of people using minigun vs. swarms?

[foggy pine]

Yeah? You say you seen people do that.

[severe tusk]

Look up USteppin on YouTube or Twitch. He does it routinely. But he's like player level 2,000+ lol.

[foggy pine]

Yeah, I know him. But there's like one gunner vid that's kinda up to date.

On u34

Maybe that's enough though.

Will check it out.

[sullen nest]

USteppin is a better player than I, but if we're just talking anecdotally I too like the minigun

It's good for all content I've ever encountered, at least

[severe tusk]

He's streams on Twitch all the time. I watched him for a bit the other night and he was using minigun and brt with cluster grenades. It's really the only loadout for Gunner he uses, I think.

[covert steppe]

Wow I heard this week's EDD was fairly easy, but it went surprisingly smoothly for me

First properly completed EDD for me as well

[severe tusk]

I also like Jet Fuel Homebrew on the rocket launcher vs. dreads.

[desert crag]

@covert steppe you'll know if the EDD is going to suck if you see either phase 2 or 3 with Shield Disruption, Lethal Enemies, or Mactera Plague

those are probably the worst weekly EDDs

[covert steppe]

Yeah I'm aware, I've had some previous attempts with some friends

Totally didn't kill my friend with a plasma burster nade

Also totally don't run friendly on my engi because of that

[brisk pine]

talking about killing someone

i c4'd the engi in edd

cause he told me to clear out an obstacle

but he somehow decided to pass right through the c4

[sullen nest]

It's impressive how often people ignore the loud beeping and massive red "do not touch" sphere

[fallow niche]

so without having had a chance to play and try it yet, looking at the pin, this week's EDD looks pretty chill. any 'gotcha' aspects of it one should keep in mind? e.g. annoying bet-c spawns etc.

[fallow niche]

i'd say minigun is perfectly viable and fun in solo since there generally aren't enough bugs, even on haz5/EDDs, to make its drawback (relative to the AC) of no AoE damage that great of a concern

[lavish ice]

Anyone doing EDDs right now?

[old widget]

#lfg-steam is usually pretty busy on new dive day

[lavish ice]

I see one EDD group, but it's full

[old widget]

Make one!

[jolly hazel]

30:54 with 4 man

[night granite]

lmao happened again, in similar conditions

[jolly hazel]

very easy edd

[crimson tinsel]

Might get it done tonight when I get home from work

Usually don’t play on work nights

30 mins is very manageable

[fallow niche]

alright so, yeah, this week's EDD was about as expected. getting the morkite on stage 2 was a bit annoying as i could find only just enough for the objective but aside from that there were no real curveballs

[atomic prawn]

shield disruption isn't too bad, but the other two, and swarmageddon 👀

[odd rover]

Swarmageddon is easy.

Any sustained wave clear will be very effective.

[atomic prawn]

just wasteful ammo drain, and also annoyance 😂

[rose pilot]

yo this EDD sucks solo

[sullen nest]

solo as which class

[rose pilot]

gunner rn

[sullen nest]

ah

[rose pilot]

i turn around and turn back and theres 4 slashers and 3 guards on me

or grabbers spawning and grabbing me just as they made a sound

i imagine driller is absolutely loving every second

[fallow niche]

it seemed pretty manageable to me as solo gunner tbh

just have to keep good situational awareness mostly, and not let yourself get jumped by ambient spawns near ledges and such

out of curiosity, @rose pilotwhat build are you running for EDD solo gunner

[rose pilot]

I might have also been getting really bad luck there

I'm away from keyboard so I don't remember exact build

But hurricane with the clean rate of fire OC and lead spray brt

[sullen nest]

What build are you running, Laiter?
Actually curious though, I don't normally run gunner for deep dives so I'm curious what people like

[rose pilot]

I've been running solo gunner with that setup for the past few DD's and but this week's grabbers are just the most hateful things 😆 didn't even get a chance to hear it before I was grabbed

And out of 2 runs that happened 5 times

[fallow niche]

well for this EDD and the preceding one, i've just been sticking with bullet hell, partly because memes and partly because i like the enhanced swarm clear/swarmer killing. hold on while i start up the game to look at the exact build

[rose pilot]

i like hurricane quite a bit for that

[fallow niche]

-32321 Bullet Hell Minigun, 23322 Six Shooter Bulldog. Sticky nades.
-13 Pickaxe, 223 Shield, 3211 Armor.

probably not the most optimal but i have fun with it and clearly it's good enough, at the least

perks are resupplier, vampire, dash. 3rd passive and 2nd active are flexible, i'd probably take heightened senses for solo since bosco sucks at shooting leeches.
went down once because of a cave leech grabbing me horizontally and depositing me directly onto a shellback

[fallow niche]

anyway i think gunner's one of the stronger classes for solo EDDs since you can for the most part kill everything that comes your way without any setup time; you also tend to have abundant ammo, making subsequent stages easier as you bring leftover nitra over

i've actually been running elem resist a bit on gunner lately just because of praetorians and my hatred for them though iirc that's pretty much all it's good for

[rose pilot]

oh god, i just realized my hurricane was gimped from when i had touched plasma burster missiles

it had both shrapnel and nitro XD

i forgot to fix it, big rip

[fallow niche]

if i were to run hurricane i'd probably take frag rounds 32222 to make it basically a better version of carpet bomber AC

[rose pilot]

i take 32122 typically

[fallow niche]

+rof is cool but for solo i dunno if you strictly need the increase in dps over the ability to get a bit more damage per rocket with frag rounds

[rose pilot]

with overtuned feed mechanizm because i keep not getting anything good

and feed is perfectly fine

[fallow niche]

though i imagine it isnt a deal breaker either way

32122 makes sense with feed yeah

[sullen nest]

iirc it also reduces damage from acid spitters (the DoT, not the projectile impact) and fungus bogs garbage
either way you make some good points and I've been having some fun with bullet hell in non-deep dives, I think I'll give gunner a try for this week's dive
seems like an easy enough one to try things out

[atomic prawn]

elem resist is pretty useless tbh

the dot of the acid spitter is next to nothing

[sullen nest]

while true, I hate fungus bogs enough to take it out of spite every once in a while

[atomic prawn]

heh i just axe every damn shroom i find

[sullen nest]

driller moment

if I'm in a mission with a driller who's proactively axing those damn shrooms they're instantly my best friend

[atomic prawn]

drillers who axe shrooms and engies who platform goo puddles

[warm light]

Just finished the DD

The host was legitimately furious at me because I caused them to leave doreta behind.

[fallow niche]

reasonable

[sullen nest]

can you blame them

[warm light]

It's just some pixels

[fallow niche]

so is c4

[sullen nest]

your health bar is going to become an absence of pixels with that attitude

[warm light]

Some people get way too attached to things for absolutely no reason, C4 downs teammates, leaving the drill's head behind is no hinderance on the game.

[thorny aurora]

I smell a leaf lover

😳

[warm light]

Saving Doreta is a fun thing to do, there is no reason to get pissed off over it.

[sullen nest]

perhaps
but he's host, his house his rules

[warm light]

He didn't say anything before hand

[atomic prawn]

how did you cause them to leave doretta behind?

[warm light]

I called the drop pod

[atomic prawn]

lmao

[sullen nest]

..wait, that's it?

I take it back, the host is the leaf lover, how does that stop anyone lmao

just go grab the damn head

[jolly hazel]

if they can't make it to the drop pod while carrying doretta head, then thats on them

[hoary cove]

especially cus it’s a reg dd

[rose pilot]

I always call the drop pod and take doreta with me without carrying it beforehand

It makes the escape the adventure dotty deserves

[atomic prawn]

don't people normally call the pod then start moving the head?

[sullen nest]

I usually grab the head as soon as it pops off and then just stand around holding it until the team decides to call the pod

[thorny aurora]

i make bosco carry the head

[olive tulip]

Wait you can?

[atomic prawn]

that involves doing escort solo 🤢

[sacred stream]

Whats wrong with solo escort on anything but scout? I tried scout and it was kinda hard. i did last weeks edd escort solo on engi and it went pretty well besides some grabbers being annoying.

[split marlin]

I guess people like that host prefer to carry head back first then call? but then wouldn't the pod just land further away

[sacred stream]

Pod is based on distance from molly so if you have a group someone can pre carry head

[atomic prawn]

imagine if they used some 4head tactic of move the head, then go back to the egg and calling the pod there 😂

[atomic prawn]

for me it just means spending 30 mins playing alone instead of with friends

[sacred stream]

If only I had the friends to consistently do edd's and dd's with 😦 Bosco my friend wont leave me though 🙂

[olive tulip]

Escort solo relies heavily on warnings, rng with ai director spawns and/or cave layout

[sacred stream]

Does anyone know how to fix "deep dive database not reached" someone i know cannot access them. He can join his friend etc. But it just wont allow him to access the deep dive database so he cannot get deep dives. he has an internet connection.

[grand shard]

I wouldn't solo escort without double engi turrets or something. Seems like every time I look away from Doretta in a four-man group the dang thing loses a track.

Oh, you want to go do the machine event in the last room? Here's two Menaces to machinegun the dozer to death

[royal vapor]

I feel that on a personal, rage-inducing level. I've become so paranoid about menaces and the like that I downright refuse to leave Doretta alone, even in a 4 man pod.

[latent violet]

Hyper propellant really helpful against menaces, with good aiming on head/weak spots engi can deal with them fast

[nocturne oracle]

This week is really easy, beat em both on first try with some random boys, despite the fact that i'm a mediocre player

[dense owl]

doing my first deep dive rn by soloing it

[merry pagoda]

completed a deep dive yesterday with 3 scouts and 1 engie. tbh it was a great strat

[burnt sandal]

good luck

[dense owl]

lethal enemies and volatile guts modifiers on part 3

[fresh sedge]

You got it.

It’s not bad

[wet maple]

IT works out cause you just kill the grunts nearby and they explode on eachother doing a bunch of damage