#deep-dive-discussion

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quasi cove
pale thistle
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Wow, I just got banned from a Deep Dive stage 3 immediately after completing all tasks for no bloody reason.

Which wouldn't have been so frustrating if I didn't have Pots of Gold with me and mine 2000+ gold notnice

quasi cove
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Also pretty sure you cant be kicked once the drop pod can be called Sconk

thorn tiger
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why does the gas a Praetorian corpse spills sometimes not want to burn? Is this a bug?

mellow cove
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Didn't you know, you get banned from deep dives if you dare to mine gold

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Especially with pots

quasi cove
thorn tiger
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I just died at the very last objective at stage 3 of a deep dive

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pepeHands

supple jewel
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best

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driller weapon for this weeks EDD?

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not cryo because cryo resistance right?

quasi cove
naive bobcat
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cryo is still decent for dreads

storm lintel
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yo guys i wanna do my first Deep Dive

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but i dont know what to expect

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will i f up if i just go blind?

random rampart
upper geyser
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EDD done. One try effing up stage 1, 1 try finishing it

ocean vapor
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Anyone want t do EDD?

supple jewel
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me

foggy pine
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For elite deep dives, what would be better autocannon+brst or minigun + brst?
I have 0 overclocks for autocannon, thinned drum walls/a little more oomph for minigun and composite casings for brst.

sullen nest
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minigun since this one has dreads, personally
in general either should work but minigun + OC usually beats autocannon + nothing

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especially when you need single-target DPS

tall meadow
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Also for this week EDD, get the first stage aquards cleared out fast

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an option I would give for the first stage , once your team gets enough for one supply, start up that hiveguard dread and get it dealt with , if everyone else can handle the dread, leave scout to grab the aquards in the meantime

foggy pine
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Is it fine to have armour break both on brt7 and minigun?

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Or should I swap out armour break on bry7 to something else

tall meadow
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You do not wish to stay long on this week first stage

sullen nest
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I like weakspot over armor break for the brt7 but in regards to whether or not it'll make or break your deep dives, it doesn't matter

subtle oracle
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Sentinels not spawning in last stage of EDD

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any fix?

foggy pine
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Why tf swarms come during dread fight on stage 1

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I thought swarms are paused during dreads

burnt sandal
supple jewel
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this EDD was pretty tuff but not nearly as bad as last one

olive tulip
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You'll get at least 2 bulks on EDD Stage 1

feral atlas
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That's not guaranteed.

olive tulip
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Dam, I must have been really (un)lucky to get the same AI director seed twice then

feral atlas
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More likely you're just taking too long. Unless both times it was double bulk on the first wave.

burnt sandal
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Still RNG though

restive patrol
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so how about them dreadnoughts

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how about them volatile guys

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how about THEM FREEZE BOIS

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HOW ABOUT EFF THIS WEEKS ELITE DIVE

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still did it under an hour

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šŸ˜Ž

olive tulip
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Only Stage 1 is a pita because of Low o2 on PE, just need to pick up the pace for Stages 1 & 2 or you'll be low on nitra

restive patrol
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2 was alright

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250-ish nitra i think we had

topaz kiln
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Easier or harder than last week?

restive patrol
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dreadnought simulator

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the volatile guts give me last week ptsd

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its like a solid 8/10 but i complain a lot teehee

slate mulch
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It's two hive guards too so I couldn't even run sludge blast, had to be ice Storm yet again šŸ˜”

sullen nest
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most dangerous enemy in the elite deep dive was a cave leech on stage 3 >:(

iron sail
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Lol

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I got rando dread in the dd

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Yesterday

violet oasis
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how tough is the regular deep dive this week? I want to get the deep for speed cheevo and I missed it last week by 1 minute and 23 seconds with gunner.

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I took a little too much time fighting the dreadnoughts... and molly was a little far away from the pod.

wraith shard
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pod 18 deep dives EU

wraith shard
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EU pod 18 missions and then deep dives

manic jacinth
violet oasis
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sweet.

manic jacinth
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I don't remember any cave leech either so there's that

ivory cypress
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What would be the best Driller Primary for the EDD? I feel like it would be Cryo because of dread fights, but it is in Glacial Strata

leaden cypress
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i'd still go for cryo

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or sludge

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ivory cypress
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I know, but donā€™t some of them still gain resistances? I think Iā€™ll take sludge just to try it, but Iā€™ll switch to cryo if it doesnā€™t work

ivory cypress
old widget
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Cryo is smashingly OP for dreads, IMO. You just need to have the rest of your team on point to pay attention to driller's freezing cycles, as the dreads thaw /very/ fast and you have to mag dump ASAP the instant that the freeze happens

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(that, and it's hard to effectively cryo the Twins because you can only freeze one at once, and ol' Arby often stays on the ceiling out of cryo range)

thorn flower
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Am I just blind or is there like no morkite on stage one of the deep dive

crisp niche
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so BET-C aint gonna shoot ha

azure wraith
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I think you have to mine almost all of it

old widget
eager horizon
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the new elite dd sucks ass

patent sand
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Gangrenous Armpit

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yikes

rapid heart
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Man stage 2 really fucked my team up, but we pulled through rocknstone stage 3 was a cakewalk in comparison

rose pilot
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EDD was easy for me

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Last week though

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Goddd

sullen nest
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stage three this week was a victory lap
relaxing mining mission after a bit of a slog in the first two stages

restive haven
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i fought the twins in the tiny tunnel they spawn in :D

umbral abyss
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Do you get a bonus to gold mined when completing an elite deep dive, like from the hazard level and modifiers?

lucid hedge
rapid heart
wanton vessel
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I thought last week was hard. This week both stage 1 and 2 can go burn in hell...

obsidian lily
ocean vapor
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Failed EDD 3 times

naive bobcat
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EDD these few weeks are not friendly to players

restive haven
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are they supposed to be :X

prime egret
vale falcon
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just get your brother to be as ammo inefficient as you and boom

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no problem

wanton vessel
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last week EDD, my greenbeard group run take 1hr 30mins and we have surplus amount of nitra

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this week however took 1hr 20mins to explore and stuff, but we rarely have enough for 1 by the time we reached stage 3

wanton stratus
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This week, and last week, are the only two EDDs I have done... are they always this crazy? Bulk dets during dreads? Like wat

naive bobcat
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not to mention the sneaky bulk slowly digging to the black box

wanton stratus
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Yup. Luckily we detonated a bulk by the dread in the first mission and killes the dread that way

worn bramble
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sometimes they can be as hectic as this weeks. other times they're much easier

prisma dune
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Man dread + detonator + wave that was not fun

dire stone
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EDD review for this week: Pain

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Pure pain

grizzled depot
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2nd lvl of edd have very little of nitra

lyric vapor
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man after like 4 or 5 attempts to get through stage 1 of edd we finally managed to get hiveguard to like 400 hp but then it closed and was like nah they might complete this smh and bugged refusing to spawn sentinels and walking around immune at 400 hp for the rest of time

burnt sandal
tulip kraken
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k

remote warren
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we don't think there is sufficient morkite in the first stage of the regular deep dive, we just can't find enough

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nevermind, it's just that blue ore on blue soil is pain :D

lyric vapor
kindred wasp
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so do we get one deep dive rewards per week, per character?

lyric vapor
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you just get 3 cores for completing the dive blank core for first stage OC core for second stage and cosmetic core for third stage

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weekly

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in both DD and EDD so you get 6 cores off deep dives per week

kindred wasp
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got it. thanks @lyric vapor !

pseudo spade
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How bad is this weeks EDD? I've never had much luck with them before as I usually play solo, but I really want to get the achievement for doing it.

dark raven
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this week EDD was nice, reasonably difficult (stage 1 and 2), 3 was on easier side i would say but that was welcomed after S1 and S2 šŸ˜„

pseudo spade
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Uhhhh, looking above me in the thread, that doesn't seem to be most folks experience. 0.0

burnt sandal
dark raven
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well EDD is end game and you have to get good team, that goes true almost on any week (not different in this one)

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yes, low O2 was annoying, yes the map generated for S1 was bad, really bad and made it a lot harder but over all i liked it

ocean vapor
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This EDD is hardest ever, personally

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It really needs smart team

vernal dove
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i got really lucky it seems, i was expecting to do multiple runs of the EDD but did it in 1

dark raven
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yes some easier EDDs i had to try few times, this week i think i did on 2nd attempt, luck in getting party is certainly factor as well

eager oxide
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EDD S1 is just stupid

remote warren
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low oxygen PE gderp

eager oxide
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its ridiculous

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combined with awful terrain

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feels entirely luck based tbh

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specially since its like 3x more difficult than a typical EDD level

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and is throwing literally everything at you at once

wheat shadow
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is it possible to go through the normal deep dive by yourself?

pseudo spade
burnt sandal
mellow cove
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First stage wasn't so bad

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Did EDD in two attempts, failed second stage in first attempt by dying to dread and pressing IW at the same time while not having any nitra or resupply around

eager oxide
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first stage is the dumbest EDD ive ever seen

mellow cove
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Seen worse

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Much worse

eager oxide
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detonators, exploding bugs, low o2, the annoying drawn out dread

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and the terrain is just cancerous

mellow cove
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I don't remember any exploders on stage 1

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Or dets

eager oxide
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we had 2

mellow cove
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We had 0

eager oxide
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yeah i feel like its entirely luck based

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ive tried 3x, each time had dets

mellow cove
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Had one bulk on second stage, used it to remove one of twins

eager oxide
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thats pretty lucky

eager oxide
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yup, another bulk, screw this week lol

sweet pagoda
burnt sandal
sweet pagoda
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the first wave is timed?

burnt sandal
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you don't want to be dealing with a dread in the later part of the mission since you're on a "timer"

burnt sandal
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Every wave is timed

sweet pagoda
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yeah if that compounds you are screwed

burnt sandal
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There 2 kinds of swarms in Point Extraction

  • Ambient spawns, which ramps up as the time goes on (meaning the mission gets harder and harder as you stay in it). Both in time between two waves and in size.
  • Timed spawns, which are the one announced by mission control. They are much bigger than the ambien spawns but the timer is fixed and it's basically one every 5-6 minutes
sweet pagoda
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so you gotta sorta speedrun it

high iron
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or at least do your best to move quickly lol you don't have to be a pro

burnt sandal
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Ideally you want to be done before 20 minutes

signal pawn
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Posting it here because I'm so proud of our team for beating the first stage

burnt sandal
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You can make it past that but the hard limit is 30. Past that, it's just infinite swarms, all the time.

high iron
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to be fair I got my butt kicked but I also dove in solo without looking this week and got rolled quick

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O2 plus PE was Rough with a capital R, bad week to feel confident alone... at least for me

wanton vessel
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this week's EDD is like the generator decided to roll nat 1 on both nitra and spawned mobs

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at least there's no shield disruption to add more insult to the injury

quaint lake
supple quarry
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even dash that stands out isn't necessary, any perk can be a waste when the situation they are needed in doesn't occur

quaint lake
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I am just not seeing when it can be needed

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you have to mess up BIG time, but if you want to mess up big time just take iron will

supple quarry
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Driller has no movement capability of its own, that's a saver in case an oopsy happen

quaint lake
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I am sure on that level of play they have absolutely bonkers spacial awareness and it can be seen well in the video

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such oopsies just don't happen anymore

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I am sure it's intended for like dropping off zip-lines, in that case

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but you won't be using ziplines much under that pressure, so still it's extremely situational

supple quarry
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You never know, hazard 5 isn't something special anymore for me and I play boots on driller just in case
But I'm not here to guess what is the usage for the guy in question, just to remind that in the end every passif and actif are subjective, none are really game changing imo ^^

quaint lake
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eh, he could have used shield link 5 times or berserk 2 times

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there were also plenty of moments when see you in hell could be a fanstastic perk for safe pickup

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not to mention a scary damage dealer as well, if you got surrounded by some scary big bugs

supple quarry
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You never know when the map gen is going to be a bitch, maybe there it wasn't necessary, but it could have been a shit fiesta of canyons and hazardous ground where boots would have been better

quaint lake
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again, spacial awareness, and if you mean for casual traversing you can just use 1 person with hover boots or just a scout to grapple down and everyone else can just land on scouts head

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I am not seeing people utilize that feature a lot and it saddens me

signal pawn
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And not using hover boots just means a situation never warranted itā€™s use

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Doesnā€™t mean itā€™s a useless perk

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If I didnā€™t need to insta res anyone with FM I donā€™t consider it a useless perk, I just consider that particular run to have gone smoother

alpine olive
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The new Elite is so god damn hard. The first mission is a nightmare and contains most of the Nitra youā€™ll find for the other two segments.

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No clue how people are doing it, I failed alongside some greybeards today and Iā€™m not that bad promotion wise either

quaint lake
# signal pawn Doesnā€™t mean itā€™s a useless perk

I wasn't saying it's a useless perk, there are no useless perks, it's just there are perks that generally can be used in a lot more situations thus actually giving you a lot more value

and I just generally have a lot of beef with crutch or "fix my mistake" perks because if you are playing well they pretty much don't see any use

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also, on the topic of scout usefulness in team mobility, with some practice and decent ping you can use scout with special powder as a jump pad

signal pawn
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and I just generally have a lot of beef with crutch or "fix my mistake" perks because if you are playing well they pretty much don't see any use
HB is waaaay more than just a crutch/fix your mistake perk, it's a kiting tool

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Want to give yourself some space? HB has got you. Most of the time it's not used as a mistake fixer, but a way to move further away from enemies safely

quaint lake
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doesn't dash already fill into this role?

signal pawn
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Can you dash off a cliff and land safely below?

quaint lake
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you can jump to a cliff on the other side of the hole with dash

signal pawn
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You didnā€™t answer my question

quaint lake
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I did tho, unless you are talking about a specific cave gen where there is literally a cave going down with 80+ degree angled walls, then yes, HB is good for that

signal pawn
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Youā€™re boxing HB into a certain playsyle

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Itā€™s more versatile than just stopping you from an accidental fall

quaint lake
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eh, not really, I am just not seeing much actual meaningful use out it, but whatever works I guess

stuck moth
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finally beat elite deep dive. god that was stressful

grand grotto
# alpine olive The new Elite is so god damn hard. The first mission is a nightmare and contains...

I'm new(ish), at around rank 150, and did it a few days ago. Had like 5 failed attempts at stage one, hardest part in my opinion. From what I can tell, getting 80 nitra then going for the hiveguard is a good start, and you might want to wait on the first swarm before popping the coccoon. Our composition had a cryo driller and neurotoxin autocannon gunner with fear, so we had plenty of space when dealing with swarms. Good c4 use for the second phase of hiveguard was nice in speeding things up as well

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I'd say if you can get by the first stage, you're mostly good. Still, I'd consider some form of control for stage 2 elites

alpine olive
grand grotto
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I used damage on first tier for c4. If your gunner stickies alongside you, phase 2 is pretty much skipped.

jovial pebble
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dEep dIve too hard...

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lol

somber breach
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Wow this week's elite deep dive felt like haz 3

vapid hinge
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it would be nice if we had someone pin the DD info each week and unpin the previous week's info. annoying scrolling to find it.

tight mauve
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the pin is updated every week

hearty kettle
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How are you guys doing this EDD?

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It feels like Hiveguard is just undoable

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we barely managed to take him to half hp and got 2 swarms

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while doing him

leaden cypress
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Either you do it right after spawning or you do it right after a swarm

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If done efficiently you can deal with it before a swarm appears

wicked briar
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wait did it actually generate one worse then last week because I havent played it yet

hearty kettle
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I dunno it was our first EDD lol

grand grotto
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At least in my opinion. People in my team were saying volative guts+shield disruption was worse

sweet pagoda
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How is C4 used efficiently? can you explain in detail?

atomic prawn
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phase 2 i assume is the part where you shoot the hiveguards pink bits

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and phase 1 is the minions?

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but always using c4 on it can be kinda bad, cuz it does fuck terrain real bad

prisma dune
atomic prawn
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true but a well timed det does a looooooot more work than c4

somber breach
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i felt like playing hazard 3 in this weeks EDD

atomic prawn
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yeah volatile guts with shield disruption was worse

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O2 is like, pain in the ass, but you know exactly what to manage, just O2 levels

grand grotto
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Point extraction is pain

sinful rover
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The most intense EDD i had so far, 3rd stage is amazing tho

leaden cypress
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wot

sinful rover
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so refreshing after hell of 1st one

grand grotto
# sweet pagoda How is C4 used efficiently? can you explain in detail?

Yeah, minions>pink bits>weak spot open is what I meant by the phases. And not that much secret to it, just coordinate with your buddies so you dont kill anyone off and like others said take care if you're using rock mover at tier 3.
I asked for one sticky from gunner as I c4d to blow up all 3 weak points and used the time the dread takes to roar as it opens its butt(?) To get close and freeze it without getting myself killed

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I actually think sludge pump is a solid pick as well for this week if you're comfortable with it

atomic prawn
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eh, i find cryo best on elims

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fast clap ez

grand grotto
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Stage 2 has 2 dread fights and black box spawns in a corridor with 2 tiny chokes

grand grotto
atomic prawn
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t5a? the slow? šŸš®

grand grotto
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Yeah
I think it's a meme pick for deep dives but I've taken it in the past on standard elims to have fun with debuff stacking

atomic prawn
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the only thing goo might be better for is the elite enemies, which tbh isn't that bad

grand grotto
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Yeah some of those take a while to freeze

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Then again i think cryo wins in most other cases so I usually just default to it

obtuse pasture
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Finally finished the solo EDD run! 5th attempt.. LOK1 + BC + Plasma Nades Engi (no ammo issues)

  • Stage 1 - finally hit a good timing for the Hiveguard and got out with a little bit of nitra.. got a really good drop pod position (in the main area) vs 2 exit failures from previous attempts from really rough drop pod locations and a bulk detonator spawn on my exit path.. rushing 80 nitra and dropping a resup on the ice rink to fight the hiveguard was my strat.. but you can also rush the aquarqs and then fight hiveguard but you really have to rush.
  • Stage 2 - Got decent elites .. no crazy bullshit for once and the black box position is perfect for a little "engi bunker" you can fight completely from one side .. man I am sick of hiveguards.. worst dread to fight solo.
  • Stage 3 - Absolute cakewalk after the horror that is stage 1/2 has at least 2 full resups coming into stage 3 and there is enough nitra around for at least another 1/2 .. really pleasant cave gen for the mules area and frankly no issues collecting morkite.. it is in pretty easy to reach places.
    EDIT: Thanks for your attendance at EDD TED Discord
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Special and final mention LOK1 - Executioner - Blowthrough and T5.C (Fear) were clutch for this run.

willow oxide
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Had a few bulks on the Edd

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Worst stage was the first like I predicted

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2nd could have been worse, but very few bugs came for us at the black box, and the dreadnaught fights were bad, but doable

atomic prawn
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yeah the terrain for 2nd was much better for fighting dreads

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and the box terrain is ez funnel too

fresh sedge
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Killed the Twins with a bulk. GG Ez

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whittled it down and killed it right after the egg popped.

jolly hazel
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big brain

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it killed both instantly?

willow oxide
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We had a bulk dig to us during the black box. Would have been bad, but I had electricity and slowed it down, and we were able to kill it while staying inside the zone. We did get out when it was about to blow up tho.

topaz kiln
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Died at the drop pod on stage 3 of the edd šŸ˜­

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Didnā€™t expect to even get that far though

twilit crane
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is there a problem with 3rd stage of normal deep dive i've timed out of server twice when attempting it

topaz kiln
twilit crane
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hmmm its really frustrating that either you can't rejoin or the host is gone because of it

novel gyro
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what are the missions in this deep dive ?

atomic prawn
ebon silo
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There any fix for bugged hiveguard spawns?

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2nd EDD facing that issue I've done this week.

jolly hazel
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I've heard getting hit by hiveguard melee fixes the sentinel spawns?

ebon silo
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One player went down and suddenly they spawned. Not sure how they went down though.

iron sail
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I could litteraly bounce on it and afk in front of it with no issue

jolly hazel
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feed yourself to it

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and it MAY open its weakspots for you

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hiveguard on ours spawned with the weakpoint bars visible immediately but greyed out

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and it diddnt spawn sentinels for a second

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then it did

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somethings weird with it

agile igloo
opal burrow
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Wish I did, bulks are the best weapon vs dreadnoughts

fallow niche
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and i guess the constant spawns arent interrupted by a dread being present

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that could be exploited pretty easily if they were, come to think of it

agile igloo
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no they weren't just ambient waves, they were the mission control "you've got a swarm incoming" type of swarm

fallow niche
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oh yeah, those also dont seem to be stopped by a dread present (on stage 1 of the current EDD at least), though that i'm actually unsure is intentional or not

thorny kernel
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the edd kicked my ass this week for some reason

obsidian sail
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mid

onyx girder
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Has the new rival mission type appeard on a deep dive?

thorny kernel
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no

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not yet at least

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i doubt it will

karmic root
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anyone completed the EDD this week? any tips ?

rustic sequoia
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on stage 1 kill dread first, iif you collect aqua first there are to many bugs later

polar yacht
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@karmic root stage 1 is the most likely wiping point. other two not nearly as bad. kill dread immediately. have driller ramps and gunner zips to higher level area to have more room to run around. the area around the minehead and lower areas are deathtraps

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swarms will spawn during dread as well. call a resupply far away from minehead to have more oxygen refill points

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we also had 2-3 bulkk spawns

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during dread

obtuse pasture
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Strong advice on stage 1.. rush 80 nitra ASAP and maybe 2-4 aquarqs.. then call a resup by the "ice rink" area 1 tier up from the minehead.. wait out the first swarm.. immediately kill the dread.. then rush the rest of the aquarqs.. if you then head back to your "base" by the ice rink the drop pod should land by the minehead making the evac easier.. I had a few harrowing attempts.. but of the 5 attempts it took to complete the whole EDD i managed to finish stage 1 twice..
Stage 2 is just ammo management and standard dread fighting.. its a dread mission so there are no "full swarms" only passive waves and that reduces the risk of really obnoxious elites

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if you get super nasty elites.. well unlucky.. My 2nd attempt i made it through stage1 with almost no nitra and little ammo and ran into an elite bulk and then a pack of elite guards,,, rip me (solo attempts)

zinc coral
obtuse pasture
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yup.. this was the reason I failed my first attempt.. team were taking their time doing normal mission things and refused to do the dread early.. on a PE mission unless you can blitz all 10 aquarqs in 1 swarm + 2 passive waves.. good luck killing the dread after that

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in fact I would say that any DD PE mission.. is rush 80 nitra.. do secondary .. rush aquarqs unless you can do both.. A few weeks/months ago the EDD had a PE with a black box.. waiting too long made that black box pretty much impossible

graceful dune
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dear god that elite DD

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is the worst I've seen in months

obtuse pasture
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I just hate elite modifier.. because you can get super rough luck on those.. having it stage 2 after the brutality of stage 1.. is pretty cruel

graceful dune
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it's a real 1-2 punch

lethal turtle
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This EDD is absolutely dreadful, not having fun at all.

obtuse pasture
graceful dune
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I'm glad to hear it

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cause I don't think I'll get to see it

obtuse pasture
graceful dune
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managed to make it to stage 2 on the razor's edge

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and there it's just too much

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did black box and proceeded to get overwhelmed running around the big weird cave next to it

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there's just no margin

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managed to beat S1 on like fourth attempt, figured S2 can't be much worse

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it's not really worse, it just doesn't let up any so it finishes grinding you

obtuse pasture
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team or solo?

graceful dune
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team

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different ones

obtuse pasture
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if the team is good at dread wrangling it is not that bad.. personally i HATE fighting hivegaurds more than any dread (particularly solo) and particularly with the LOK1

graceful dune
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yeah

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hiveguards are the hardest as far as I can see

obtuse pasture
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the black box you can cheese. .by engi blocking off the tunnel on one side and you can set up a kill box

graceful dune
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they really force you to churn through ammo and in a deep dive that's particularly bad

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yup

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that's how we did it it went pretty well

obtuse pasture
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stage 2 you just have to keep moving.. no stalling.. and it is ok

graceful dune
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doubt I'm gonna try it again to be honest

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not today at least

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shit was exhausting

obtuse pasture
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try it solo .. that was my final decision

graceful dune
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not too used to solo runs, but noted

celest oasis
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Whats the best way to slay elites lol

lucid trellis
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either freeze and burst

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or slow and melt

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or just bombard it naked with armour piercing while someone blasts it with hollow point

hollow frost
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Anyone have the EDD statement?

lethal turtle
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I can't do it, getting some serious gamer rage.

oblique notch
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same

hollow frost
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Anyone? Elite deep dive weekly layout?

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Aah screw it, I'm going dutch!

oblique notch
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Hiveguard and aquarqs
Twins + hive and box
Morkite and 2 mules

gritty fox
hollow frost
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That is awesome

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@gritty fox ty

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Also we killed the first hive guard with the second bulk

gritty fox
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lmao nice

green sequoia
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Hi all, any engineer build for elite deepdive ? i dont have many overclocks as im relatively new but feel its do-able of getting close a few runs

naive bobcat
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What do you have

green sequoia
naive bobcat
green sequoia
naive bobcat
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In your case i think em discharge stubby + breach cutter is best loadout you can bring

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Gemini defender turret with armour break

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Perks is really up to you, I think only dash is necessary

green sequoia
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alright will try, thanks a lot appreciate it

naive bobcat
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Hyper propellent will be good for this week's edd

green sequoia
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ye it was really helpful when i tried

obtuse pasture
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if you have the ammo and the rest of the team can deal with swarms

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Stage 1 is dread secondary... the swarms can get pretty wild.. stage 2 hyperprop has more value

naive bobcat
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EM discharge should be enough to deal with swarms if you place turrets right

green sequoia
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hollowpoint damage better than conductive bullets? is it because the 30% dmg buff doesnt work on weap points ?

barren isle
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Isn't the whole point of hollow point weakpoints?

green sequoia
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as the gun is built to electrocute i thought maybe the 30% dmg increase to enemies effected was better

iron sail
agile igloo
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God can't hear your prayers on Hoxxes

barren isle
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The advantage of hp is it doesn't rely on rng as much

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Ignoring gun spread

green sequoia
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ye was going T1 electro chance for EM discharge

barren isle
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Yeah conductive is probably the better pick

naive bobcat
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T4 is your preference. Weakpoint is better against dreads

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Since dreads and oppressors resist elec

green sequoia
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i see thanks i just wanted to know your reason because i knew you had one, thanks again

thorny geyser
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Smartest way to go with first stage is to rush for one resupply worth of nitra and tackle the hiveguard.

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Unfortunately, we didnt do it the smart way. We did it the hard way.

naive bobcat
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Both are good, it's just your preference tbh

thorny geyser
shut hatch
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first edd thats hard in a hot minute huh

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this is rough

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also my teams getting desynced nitra

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made it past stage one but man

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that cave gen

naive bobcat
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With a sneaky bulk slowly digging towards you

shut hatch
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yeahhh

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oh sht

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we barely got through 2 but we did it

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please let this be a normal field trip to stage 3

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we died lol

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too many jellies

naive bobcat
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Stage 3 is the easiest stage imo though

shut hatch
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yes

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im aware

lucid hedge
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when i did EDD my team went into stage 3 with no ammo, no health, and no nitro

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still cleared it due to how easy it was

static hound
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was last week's edd hard

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compared to this week

naive bobcat
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last week was harder for me

soft wind
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had to kill the hiveguard with just pickaxes it was a rodeo and at the end we lost in the droppod phase

raw swift
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This week was cancer because the aquors were located in horrible areas

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wished that it wasnt

trail hound
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Let's goo

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I soloed edd 1 as scout

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The trick is to memorise all nitra spots

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And just kill the dreadnought

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Before even looking at an aquarw

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I'd argue it's easiest solo

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I got ganked like 10 times in a row

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But solo scout ruushing nitra, then heading to the black ice room where drop pod lands

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That works really eell

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The ice, since you can very easily slide about to essentially teleport

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Making both the nought and the swarm non threags

gentle lion
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This weeks basic deep dive is fun

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favorite biome

lucid trellis
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somehow my friend absolutely hates it

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I think he just hates how dark it seems

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frankly I love the neon

hot tide
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last weeks dreadnaught was hell like it's fine to kill it but then you have no ammo or nitra and there was a huge cave filled with leeches

trail hound
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I died on the last cycle of the dreadnought hiveguard from edd 2

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Second dread

rose pilot
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Nitra was not an issue last week imo

trail hound
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Edd 2 was so easy compared to edd 2 I let my guard wayy down

rose pilot
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I was sitting on 4 resups by the end of that one

trail hound
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This week too

rose pilot
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You just get strangled this week

trail hound
#

What

rose pilot
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For nitra

trail hound
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This week has nitra coming out both ends

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Last week was the real choke for me

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Maybe it's because I'm doijg this week solo

rose pilot
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I did both solo

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...and both 2 man

trail hound
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Which class

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Since on edd 1 you only need one resup solo

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Or two

rose pilot
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I solo gunner both weeks

trail hound
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And you can get 1 resup a minute if you're really speedy

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Ah that explains it

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This edd has a lot of you need scout to get nitra places

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Like right on topof the dread eggs there's enough nitra for a while pod

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But you really need a scout therw

wraith shard
#

i recently got a promotion and i want to hop in to a deep dive, is it playable with randoms or do i need 3 friends going with me? what can i expect there?

naive bobcat
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Regular deep dives are playable with randoms

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It's basically just 3 missions back to back with nitra and ammo carrying over

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Refer to pins if you want to know what's the deep dive missions

wraith shard
#

thanks

trail hound
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It's very difficult to find THOSE last 2 aquarqs

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Anyone else have the issue

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Bosco is a godsend, this one is much easier solo

eager oxide
trail hound
#

Ye

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Ok I've cracked edd 1 wide open

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Drak scout with a damage mod

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I used tef

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Shred the shit out of the sentinels

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Zhukov pop

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Clip dump Zhukov with ifg into the butt then tef burst end it well

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You want to use your hook to slide around the black ice area where you should be fighting it rather than using it to fly about

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Shoe of obama then got three knockdown comboed during a swarm

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Nvm I pulled through woo

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I don't care about cosmetics honestly I have my look pinned down, I'm just gonna do the weapon core then suicide since this is stressful and I want to sleep soon

#

Gl

trail hound
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personally, i highly reccomend fighting this elite deep dive alone as opposed as a group

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the dreads would be easier since you dont need to sit there for 5 minutes asking r in the chat then fight a boss which has 4 x the hp and you have less control and flow over the fight

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plus for edd 1 which is the difficult bit if it, you can just grab all the nitra real quick then fight it in the icy area

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welp im going to bed now. this game has broken me have a nice day

lucid hedge
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since the 2nd player compensates for not having bosco

lucid hedge
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And also it takes most teams a minute or two at most to get ready

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if it takes 5 minutes then people are extremely noob/disorganized

fast nexus
#

anyone else have the issue of BET-C on regular deep dive just not attacking anything?

supple quarry
#

yep

fast nexus
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Ok, glad it's not just me

void hare
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she doesn't attack anything even not on deep dives

sullen nest
#

She's just there to hang out

obtuse pasture
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BET-C just vibin'

ashen mist
#

Got any tips for a first time doing an EDD?

sweet saffron
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Listen

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Anyone sounds like they know what their doing, take the advice

atomic prawn
#

teamwork makes the dream work šŸ˜‚

sweet saffron
#

Rubs thighs

atomic prawn
#

if anything, being more economical on nitra is a good habit šŸ˜‚

sweet saffron
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Builds bunker with eyes closed and uses the heat from a bulk to cook a pizza

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Team economical aye

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Huge difference between sacrificing team ammo / double dipping and creating a high DPS build

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Efficacy, it's a beautiful word

atomic prawn
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idk if people like to go in blind, or look at the pins for the objectives of each stage

sweet saffron
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Intel, get it from people who've played the EDD before

#

Placement of a single leech can matter

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I could cook a cheese toastie on this love, thanks c:

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To balance things out... bunkering... drill deep enough to avoid radiation dmg, get your engi to double baffle (seal above and below) most importantly, make as long a kill-zone as you can

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And be ready to drill the heretics out asap when you hear a bulk digging c:

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There's no solution for boredom though :P

sweet saffron
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Good job

next pebble
#

If you want to spam off topic nonsense, do it in the off topic channel. #non-drg-chat

night granite
#

I really despise this weeks EDD. Like I hate it more than last weeks

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I haven't gotten past the first absolutely cancerous stage

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Everything about it combines into one horrible experience

ashen mist
#

This was my first EDD. I died six times in our attempt at stage one.
Up. Down. up Down.

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We called the Mine Head location "The Death Hole"

night granite
ashen mist
#

Its taught me that my movement sucks.
I get up. Run a bit. Get surrounded and die. Mean while the rest of the team had 2 Downs each. on the Stage 1 attempt.

night granite
#

Haven't even gotten past the first stage. Would of on my first attempt if I didn't randomly disconnect moments before leaving

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also volatile guts is seriously flawed. It makes killing enemies incredibly unsatisfying

cobalt sable
#

How do I get better about getting overwhelmed with the swarm/not kiting it right

old widget
#

Also, equip Dash as an active perk

cobalt sable
#

Ive been trying to get good at Haz5 solos, should i do it in teams instead

#

also, PE's?

old widget
#

Nah

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Point extraction

cobalt sable
#

ah

old widget
#

Solo will teach you more about evading bugs

charred radish
#

And loving bosco

sullen nest
#

based High Velocity Ejection System user
the amount of people who don't use the higher projectile speed grappling hook upgrade is staggering
I can't possibly imagine using the grappling hook without it

wet warren
#

when would be a good time for someone to start considering running Elite Deep Dives?

atomic prawn
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When you can handle haz 5 fine

wet warren
#

fair enough

atomic prawn
#

Though, pubbing also has some rng to it

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But yeah if you're confident in carrying haz 5, you're more than ready

old widget
#

I would also say that if you can run haz 4 full team missions with < 2 total downs then you can probably step into stage 1 of EDD

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but H5 bug speed is pretty fast

atomic prawn
#

If you can do haz 5 games with more than enough nitra to spare at the end šŸ˜‚

wet warren
#

yeah I tried EDD but I can get passed the first mission with pubs

atomic prawn
#

No luck forming a team with people you know?

wet warren
#

No one I know I still plays it, thats why I joined the DIscord

#

maybe I can find some people that dont play like overclocked bots

frosty spade
#

whats the meta on current elite dive? i

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'm probably noob, but it's impossiburu

sullen nest
#

bring a pickaxe or you're throwing :^)

frosty spade
#

kek

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3 scouts 1 engineer?

sullen nest
#

but uh
it's three dreads
bring high single-target DPS I suppose, the rest doesn't really matter too much imo

atomic prawn
#

Meta? Just whatever meta load out I guess.

#

Cryo driller and hyper prop šŸ˜‚ short work of those elims

sullen nest
#

oh and make sure your scout has a brain so you don't spend 40 minutes in stage one with that horrible aquarq layout, lmao

frosty spade
#

we're getting murdered by the endless waves of enemies in the first drop

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the first map

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yeah i'm the scout so it's on me lol

atomic prawn
#

Lol spending more than 15 mins in the first stage is šŸ‘€

sullen nest
#

I habeeb in you

frosty spade
#

thats the thing

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so basically go for the dread first?

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meanwhile me, scount, gets the quarks?

atomic prawn
#

Nitra first šŸ˜‚

frosty spade
#

without platforms

#

well..

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yeah

#

so the prio list

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Nitra, boss, quarks?

atomic prawn
#

Spam light. Engie platforms whatever nitra/aq he sees. Scout gets them while the rest smack boss

sullen nest
#

imo get 80 nitra just in case, then pop it
three dwarves go kill it, scout gets aquarqs
as scout don't bother even looking at the dread until you get those aquarqs
you need to get the mission objectives done in parallel to spend the minimum time there

atomic prawn
#

And ping when them bulks spawn šŸ˜‚

frosty spade
#

aight, we'll try

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thx xD

tawny steppe
#

Ǝs this DD's Phase one possible? I'm lacking 3 Morkite

sullen nest
#

nope
it's an elaborate prank

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Also, try killing some loot bugs. They eat morkite.
Beyond that Idunno what to say other than "look harder", sorry :(

tawny steppe
#

right

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because lootbugs drop anything else than gold and nitra

sullen nest
#

pretty sure lootbugs can and will eat any minerals that are loose on the ground (not direct from veins)
gold, nitra, morkite, red sugar, whatever, doesn't matter

tawny steppe
#

sure

merry holly
#

Had the Hiveguard on stage 2 of EDD bug out, did not spawn the sentinels

languid pike
#

hey guys.

#

is there a rough profile level where people wont kick you from their elite deep dive party?

merry holly
#

EDD this week is super spicy, so if you are below player lvl 100 you might have a hard time

sullen nest
fast sluice
#

is BET-C busted right now? when fixed she doesn't fire at enemies at all

languid pike
#

yeah since the patch a couple days ago

sullen nest
#

yeah she's broken right now

languid pike
#

BET-C is a passifist

sullen nest
#

decorative bet-c

fast sluice
#

sure didnt seem like it when i woke her up

sullen nest
#

she's just cranky
needed some dwarven repairs to calm her down
now she's too relaxed to fight bugs

languid pike
merry holly
half eagle
sullen nest
#

christ, lmao

half eagle
#

When I was playing Engi, Scout refused to use my platforms and farm nitra
When I was Scout, Engi refused to place platforms for me so I had to mine nitra by walking on the ceiling
All the gunners and drillers I've encountered couldn't deal any serious damage to dreadnought so yeah, it was rough

#

Also, I remember four PE + elimination on the same stage in different deep dives, all were hard as hell, so it's just that this combo is cursed
Huge amounts of regular waves and swarms plus hellish terrain layout of PE plus dread fight dstare

sullen nest
#

at least this time it's stage 1
I recall a few weeks back it was stage 3 and boy was that an unpleasant surprise

half eagle
#

True
Then again, I couldn't make it past this stage 1 until my 7th attempt

keen vine
#

this EDD good for someone who never did it before?

languid pike
#

was last week's EDD particularly brutal?

sullen nest
#

I don't think so

sullen nest
# keen vine this EDD good for someone who never did it before?

at least imo only stage 1 is kind of rough, but it's more annoying than anything else
it's a bit cramped for my liking given you need to fight a dread, the aquarqs are all on the ceiling, one of them was inside the dreadnought spawn location, I was not a fan at all and it basically mandated a level-headed Scout if you want to be in and out in any reasonable amount of time
oh, and it's Low O2, because why not, lol
The rest of the dive was a breeze in my opinion

half eagle
#

At least you won't fail it on 50% or more progress

#

It's either win or die and try again

languid pike
#

first stage is easy as solo scout xD

#

well relatively at least

languid pike
#

hmm now i ran into a broken hive guard as well

sullen nest
#

:(

#

Lemme know if getting eaten helps

odd comet
#

I had that problem before where it wouldn't summon sentinels, just wandered around the cave in an invincible state. Getting up in its face and triggering a melee attack fixed it for me, it did the roar and summoned sentinels immediately afterwards

green sequoia
#

@naive bobcat did it, I can die in peace with karl now. thanks again for the suggestion man

trail hound
#

The drak with a damage mod is the real MVP for this oje

#

I think scout be my the best soloer here

#

Also ifg with the zhuks outputs unspeakable damage with Hollow point

manic pivotBOT
#

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crystal canopy
#

for some reason it was extremely hard to find morkite on stage one regular dd

fast sluice
#

it kind of blends in in azure weald

#

i tried the EDD for the first time this week and got my ass flattened on stage 1

severe tusk
#

Finding Dystrum in the Azure Weald is even harder. Luckily, that's not a mission objective for Deep Dives.

regal mango
#

We got through the first stage of EDD by rushing enough nitra for two resupplies then calling them on opposite ends of the big room with the spitballer. Covered up ice with plats, and popped the egg after the first swarm. Seemed to be a good strat

#

Fighting in the death pit that is the minehead is a disaster, but that room is pretty spacious

fallow niche
#

i think it's actually preferable when the first stage or two are the hardest, as it means you're less likely to spend 45 minutes on an EDD before failing at the final hurdle

rose pilot
#

Yeah, but it's harder to get yer weapon overclocks

cerulean otter
#

Any tips for the first stage of the current EDD as gunner? Ive been trying to beat the first stage as i know my limits and want thr blank OC all day but though multiple strategies have been tried and many teams have been made i havent manged to beat it yet.

jolly hazel
#

carpet bomber oc with autocannon

cerulean otter
#

You sure? Thats gonna suck against the dread.

jolly hazel
#

use ur secondary

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it doesnt hurt the dps THAT much

cerulean otter
#

Alr ill give it a whirl when i have a chance

jolly hazel
#

wave clear is much more important

cerulean otter
#

Wait but the first stage has volatile guts and im not tryna do the others

jolly hazel
#

wut

#

why wouldn't u just do them all

cerulean otter
#

Because i always die immediately at stage two

jolly hazel
#

the first stage is the hardest bit

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do u want some help?

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I'm down to do the edd again with u rn if you want

cerulean otter
#

Nah im good

jolly hazel
#

stage 2 is just dps race and dread knowledge check lol

#

I mean if u really want single target then maybe try minigun+fire mod 5

#

but I think everyone else should be able to take care of the dread if u clear the point extraction waves

#

plus brrt+revolver

cerulean otter
#

Alr well ill figure it out

jolly hazel
#

also

#

please don't dip after stage 1 lol

last grail
#

i just did the dd and i never got my cores Has anyone ells seen this?

naive bobcat
#

You only get them once per DD/EDD

last grail
#

that was the first time doing it

naive bobcat
#

Did you check the core crafting area?

hearty kettle
#

So, do extreme deep dives give different rewards the base one gives?

jolly hazel
#

no

severe tusk
#

Regular DDs and EDDs each give you a blank core, weapon core, and cosmetic core for completing them, 1 core per completed stage.

amber holly
#

I usually knock out the regular DD on the weekend solo because I always have a few hours late on saturday where I'm waiting for foreign friends to wake up so we do some weekly stuff together.

#

But the EDD... that's with a team/friends only

#

Never managed it solo

#

Honestly the normal DD is a cinch

#

If you're used to haz 4 or 5 you'll be drifting off to sleep by the time you finish it

jolly hazel
#

^

half eagle
# cerulean otter Any tips for the first stage of the current EDD as gunner? Ive been trying to be...

I've finished EDD as gunner
Warn ur team in advance that as soon as you get 80 nitra you will pop an egg, because there's no way to kill dread later on bc of huge waves of grunts
Also, since it's low O2 and the minehead is in the pit, provide your team with good ziplines, two most important areas are platform to the left of an egg and the cave entrance on the opposite side because of huge amounts of nitra there

raven grove
#

We just fought in the pit. Killed the hiveguard real good

viscid sage
#

Fighting hiveguard in the pit during a swarm is not a good time

#

luckily a detonator instakilled twins in s2 which saved us a lot of ammo lol

vale pier
#

me and my team have been getting nonstop stomped

#

all the extra bugs overwhelm us too fast and we really don't know what to do anymore, we got past stage one only once, but ran out of nitra to spend on the second

low flax
next lintel
# vale pier all the extra bugs overwhelm us too fast and we really don't know what to do any...

We ran out of nitra and ammo during second dreadnought fight in stage 2 (did hiveguard second). Got it down to 1/3 remaining health before we were all empty, literally spent about 25 minutes running around power attacking it and the sentinels with our pickaxes to finally kill it. Didnā€™t get any swarms during that last phase of the fight, and didnā€™t get any until we called the drop pod. We all got wiped out pretty quickly except scout who got sniped by an elite acid spitter while waiting for the mule to dock at the pod. Felt bad man

fresh citrus
#

Played right now elite dive with some asian players, we taked no damage, they said cuz of mods

#

What was that?

atomic prawn
#

cheats

#

ditch those leaf lovers and find a diff. lobby šŸ˜‚

fresh citrus
#

Well, leader of room was realy leaf lover, who ignore pings, when played as scout

noble sage
#

A tip for those who don't already know; if you open up the hiveguard and kill a bulk detonator next to each other, the bulk detonator will insta kill the hiveguard. My team found this knowledge INCREDIBLY useful in the first stage of the EDD, given a bulk detonator is guaranteed to spawn at the 4 minute mark (if you don't shoot the egg) and at the 10 minute mark.

fresh citrus
#

Hiveguard its dreadnaught?

noble sage
#

yeah, a hiveguard dreadnought

#

it'll always spawn the same

molten jetty
#

it was amazing, you gotta try it

fresh citrus
#

I need to take off his armor (invincibility), when his hp is red?

noble sage
#

yes

fresh citrus
#

Cool, thanks

obtuse pasture
noble sage
#

thats very strange. I'm not to sure how the bulk detonator spawns work but they were always consistent for me. I assume someone knows how it works

quaint lake
#

man I really did legit got some form of PTSD from when I was doing melee only elite dives, decided to rewatch some and now I am feeling mad stressed out and anxious, like holy fuck

#

and that's just an everyday life for Karl, I don't know if to feel sad or impressed

old widget
noble sage
stuck moth
#

Is the hurricane minelayer system good?

atomic prawn
#

don't like it

#

i wouldn't bring it for edd

stuck moth
#

I brought it to edd thinking it would help holding off waves in stage 1 edd but it doesn't do enough damage to clear properly. I wish the mines had more aoe range

atomic prawn
#

they aren't anywhere near proxy tier for sure

burnt sandal
atomic prawn
#

what's their lifetime like? iirc it expires pretty quickly

#

longer than cryo minelets but still kinda lacking on the proactive front

burnt sandal
#

10s

atomic prawn
#

damn, that's... D:

burnt sandal
#

you can just shoot at the enemy normally and you get extra value for missed shots

#

it's not bad but it's certainly a niche playstyle

atomic prawn
#

might as well use other OCs that don't drop your ammo and remove guidance šŸ˜‚

#

no need to get extra value out of missed shots if they don't miss šŸ˜‚

#

and anyone who misses with guided missiles.... probs not gonna do well with unguided ones

wraith shard
#

Any tips for EDD in general? I've never played one so far but would like to give it a try, those extra overclocks are tempting.

obtuse pasture
#

At first set a goal of "just getting the stage 1 blank" .. that was enough for me the first time.. next time I tried it.. I landed up cruising the EDD :p

#

IF playing solo you can set bosco to max revives to give you most "looks' at the EDD.. hell even take scout and scout out stage 1 first.. before playing your usual role..

subtle epoch
#

Current EDD seems like hell tbh

#

my friends and i have yet to beat the first stage

obtuse pasture
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Stage 1 is a bastard and stage 2 can be rough if you get in with low nitra and get rough elites

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IF you make it to stage 3.. you will 95% cruise it

wraith shard
subtle epoch
obtuse pasture
obtuse pasture
subtle epoch
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we weren't sure whether to do the egg right away, or pop the egg immediately after a swarm is cleared

obtuse pasture
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On a Point Extraction the passive waves get bigger and bigger.. so starting the dread ASAP is a good idea.. clear the inital stuff, get 80 nitra.. drop a resup in a good place for air and fight around it.. I recommend the ice rink

wraith shard
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I'm mostly afraid that I'm not prepared enough and fail the mission for my team šŸ˜…
I usually play haz 4 so EDD will be tougher than what I'm used to.

obtuse pasture
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if you can do it fast enough then do.. if you think it will take time.. then immediately after a swarm is cleared.. keep in mind that on PE a passive wave is coming shortly after that swarm is cleared.. so you will probably have to fight one passive wave while fighting the dread

obtuse pasture
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I straight up failed it for my usual team on scout.. messed up getting the last aquarq which was in weird ass location by the egg.. and my mates were being dumb and just staying at the bottom for no good reason.. the combination of reviving and going back etc.. just ran out of time.. killed the dread, got 9 aquarqs and I could not get the last before we got overwhelmed.. they are too WEAK to keep trying.. so SOLO it was

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I am being harash.. but I am a sucker for punishment.. i'll keep hammering away until I "solve' the EDD

wraith shard
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Isn't solo more challenging usually? Assuming your team is somewhat decent.

obtuse pasture
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it can be.. but it can also be easier..

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This weak PE.. you can use bosco to grab sky aquarqs for example.. unless your engi is competent.. getting them with a scout is near impossible without taking too much time/damage

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and if you are comfortable doing solo haz5 dread missions then stage 2 is not that rough

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twins are twins and hiveguards are hiveguards..

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wraith shard
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Oh yeah, forgot about Bosco cheesing point extractions-

wraith shard
fresh sedge
fast sluice
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finished the EDD, my first successful EDD run (and second EDD run ever)

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that first stage is rough as hell and nitra is sparse af on the whole dive

supple quarry
# subtle epoch we weren't sure whether to do the egg right away, or pop the egg immediately aft...

Everytime we got a Point Extraction + Dreadnought we follow the same plan that worked until now : clear the initial rom, gather enough nitra for a pod, starts the aquarqs and search for a nice safe area to fight later on.
When the first official wave is announced, gather to the previously found place in which you will call the ammo pod. Fight the swarm in there, as soon as it's done, everyone resupply and pop the egg right away

azure wraith
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2 damn leaff lovers leaving on stage 1 and then we finish it with scout

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stage 2 now

void hare
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I got extremely lucky to complete edd with a team of randoms on the first try

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it was still tough

azure wraith
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we blew the hiveguard up with an elite bulk detonattor

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fucking epic

sullen nest
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# sullen nest fwiw last I checked enemy health doesn't get scaled back on EDDs depending on pl...

It does scale. Sort of. Technically Iā€™m wrong because itā€™s not health that scales, but resistance to damage.

https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Difficulty_Scaling

The number of shots it takes to kill larger enemies does scale though, thatā€™s the ā€œresistanceā€ bit. It takes less cumulative damage to kill a praet on 2p than 4p at any Haz level, including DD/EDD.

(Youā€™re right that grunts and other small/normal enemies donā€™t scale resistance vs player count though)

Deep Rock Galactic Wiki
Difficulty Scaling

Difficulty Scaling - Official Deep Rock Galactic Wiki

obtuse pasture
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I do not know the bounds of swarm size either.. but 4 player Haz5 swarms are bigger than 1-2 players by a significant margin

cerulean otter
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Ok ive tried litterally everything under the sun to complete the first stage of the EDD as gunner qnd nothing has worked i hate this stupid EDD im convinced its impossible to solo as gunner

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If anyone wants to give me an ACTUALLY HELPFUL tip my current strat is collect enough nitra for a resupply then kill the dread but i cn never collect the aquarq before getting overwhelmed by the stupid late mission swarms where so many bugs spawn my game lags.

sullen nest
wraith shard
# obtuse pasture IF playing solo you can set bosco to max revives to give you most "looks' at the...

Against all odds I soloed the entire EDD during my "scout the first mission" attempt, kek. Thanks again for the tip, even if it wasn't meant that way- I probably wouldn't have even attempted the EDD today otherwise.
Granted, it took me almost one and a half hours and it was very close at some points, especially the black box part after two dreadnought fights with no Bosco-revives remaining, but completed is completed. Plasma carbine really carried me through this.

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For my very first EDD, I can't really complain

languid pike
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I finally finished the EDD solo on my scout! šŸ˜„

supple quarry
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Clean

lucid trellis
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I notice how the first stage of this edd is similar to the one from crystalline caverns

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Same map gen too

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I feel all round that point extraction x elim in that map gen is the hard part and the biome can just add extra pain if itā€™s something like magma, fungus or glacial

brisk pine
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almost managed to clear stage 1 with my engi but i ran out of ammo

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solo

sullen nest
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which guns did you bring, out of curiosity

brisk pine
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lok and bc

sullen nest
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rip lok

sudden pendant
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would a good strat for stage 1 EDD be scout focus on getting the higher up aquas while the rest of the team focus on killing the dread at very beginning?

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seems speed is key

wraith shard
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Probably more reasonable to get some nitra first and wait until you've cleared the first swarm, since it can trigger during that dreadnought fight.

sudden pendant
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yeah plant a supply in the upper area as a oxy checkpoint

scarlet juniper
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F hiveguard

jaunty crag
severe tusk
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The dream.

opal snow
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the detonator? lmao

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i tried with a friend but ended up wiping at the 30 min mark (i think we took to long)
How long u guys took for the 1st stage in the Elite deep dive? feel like we were getting impossible waves constantly.

sullen nest
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that M1000 spam clicking, lmao

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KL-KL-KL-KL-KLACK
KL-KL-KLACK
KL-KL-KL-KLACK

severe tusk
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As others have mentioned, point extractions keep getting more frequent waves the longer you stay. So a good strategy is to land, clear the initial bugs, gather enough nitra for 1-2 drops, and grab as many aquarqs as you can before the first swarm hits. When the first swarm is almost over, pop the dread and take it out as quickly as possible then finish gathering up the rest of the aquarqs and get out.

sullen nest
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ye
most deep dives have enough nitra in them that you'll have some left over
it's way better to get out of point extraction ASAP even if it means only having enough nitra for one resupply or even less upon mission completion, since you can get more than enough nitra in the next two stages, than spend extra time looking for nitra in the ramp-up-nightmare mission type and get overrun in the process

tidal spruce
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Can you use the dread to prevent swarm spawns?

sullen nest
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nope

tidal spruce
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Sad

sullen nest
unborn canyon
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Discord nitra

scarlet juniper
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night granite
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This EDD can rot in hell

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This might be the first time I've genuinely gotten frustrated at this game

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I'm assuming you need to kill the dread first since later on it becomes impossible to keep up with swarms but I'm not trying anymore. Better luck next week

scarlet juniper
night granite
scarlet juniper
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Well that bulk saved us a resupply, hiveguards are big ammo sinks

night granite
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Too bad the bulk for me either spawns too early or not at all

scarlet juniper
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We did focus the bulk before opening the hivegaurds backside

heady kettle
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im just popping my head in to say the elite dive is insane, probly the wildest shit i have ever had thrown at me from this game ever. not impossible though good comrades and clenched cheeks won the day against the wrath of rng jesus.

old widget
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It was a pretty spicy first stage, especially given that stage 1 bugs are ā€œonlyā€ Haz 4.5

heady kettle
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we had an elite bulk pop in on the blackbox on stage 2, spicy indeed

severe tusk
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Elite bulks have some legs on them.

meager pewter
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hello Borthers! I'm doing the first stage of the current deep dive solo and I can't find enough Morkite (also the big robot is not doing anything just walking around, shouldn't it shoot?)
This is my first deep dive and I'm a bit confused

wraith shard
subtle epoch
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I had the same thing happen with Bet-C too !!

wraith shard
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Hope they fix that soon, it's a shame when she disrupts your mission and then you don't even get anything after repairing her. Except that she constantly pushes you around lol

brisk pine
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i have to say hiveguard is probably the easiest dread, followed by twins and hardest is the OG dread

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you just get F'd over in EDD because you also have to look out for infinite swarms due to PE being a biatch

meager pewter
wraith shard
meager pewter
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how much harder elite deep dive is? I'm pretty sure I might be able to solo one (althogh not today XD) as I had no real survival problem on this one

wraith shard
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About two haz levels higher

brisk pine
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EDD is much harder

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DD is haz 3 and 3.5 while EDD is 4.5-5.5

wraith shard
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Jump into a solo EDD and see how it works out for you, worst case scenario is that you get sent back to the space rig

brisk pine
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i did that 4 or 5 times today

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might try again tomorrow

uneven cypress
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yo can someone tell what does holding R do when using miner's power drills?

icy chasm
plucky fern
shadow shoal
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It is because spin is cool

hot grotto
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I haven't played deep dives in a long long time, has anything been majorly changed?

sullen nest
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not that I can think of, at least

gleaming cave
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TIL You can get stuck in the Point Extraction Minehead
And swarms appear during Dread if it's PE

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Like full on "You're a glorified turret now" stuck

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hot grotto
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I also only really played one deep dive because I've been unable to find peeps to do it with

old widget
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The #lfg-steam channel is pretty awesome here in my xp

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Especially on Thursdays when the dives reset, itā€™s easy to find good friendly groups

tawdry sable
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am i unlucky or is this edd just set to spawn an insane amount of bulks

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I got 2 on the first and 3 + 1 elite on the second

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couldnt even get to third phase because it spawned one right on the black box

naive bobcat
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Sounds about right

toxic gust
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Elite: start dread 1st level, swarm spawns right as it pops just after clearing one previously, then proceeds to spawn 2 detonators

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Fair

celest oasis
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Stage 1 is rough lol

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Gotta go fast or get overwhelmed drillchamp

shell karma
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So I found BET-C on DD and she does not attack anything after repairing

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any ideas whether I can do anything about it?

valid phoenix
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betc not shooting bugs is a common... bug

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the devs must be working on it

shell karma
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I see, found the thread on forum about that.

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sad, maybe she has pact of non aggression with bugs?

valid phoenix
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maybe those parasites she's infected with are finally taking over šŸ„“

shell karma
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;-;

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no!

crimson tinsel
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Sheā€™s engaged to Steeve but canā€™t see anymore so she doesnā€™t know which one not to shoot. So she just doesnā€™t shoot.

ruby pine
digital sierra
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Goddam, this week's elite Deep Dive is just brutal

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Especially since you have to deal with scaling hordes showing up DURING the boss.

old widget
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PE primary and dread secondary is pretty much the worst combo for EDD, because of that overlap

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(Several EDDs ago we had PE+dread, stacked with magma core and swarmageddon and an even more vertical caveā€¦and on stage 2. good times)

dreamy dragon
hot grotto
brisk pine
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hiveguard is a silver lining cause once you crack it open, it's stationary, the only thing you have to do is somehow get above its bombs

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the twins move around a lot

old widget
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I still think OG dread is toughest on Haz 5 because of its speed and power (and of course thatā€™s who was on the magma core EDD I mentioned above)

ruby pine
hot grotto
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ah

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when it's noon for you it's evening to night for me

dreamy dragon
ruby pine
hot grotto
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I mean that's okay to me

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I'm a night owl anyway

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/wake up super early like 2 am

obtuse pasture
shell karma
obtuse pasture
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also finally fixed bosco shooting the crap out of steeve which made my solo deep dive more annoying than it had to be

urban rose
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about to do my first deep dive, should I try to find a group or should I just go solo?

scarlet jewel
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If youre decent at haz 3 missions solo, you could try it alone

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The missions dont go past haz 3.5, which stage 2 and 3 are at

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First stage is just plain haz 3

urban rose
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ok that shouldnt be to hard

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thx

tacit fulcrum
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So where the šŸ‡« do you fight the hiveguard in stage 1 EDD? Around the minehead has been suicide three times.

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tacit fulcrum
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imagine yakety sax playing in the background and dwarves just scrambling everywhere
That is an amazing visual

atomic prawn
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i did it at the minehead

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wasn't too shabby, since cryo driller made it ez pz

tacit fulcrum
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See I was the driller for one of these, and it turns out that sludge pump does absolutely fuck all to hiveguards.

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Like, the corrosive status wasn't even chipping the three weak points.

atomic prawn
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pain

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does it actually blob the weakpoints or does it blob the dread's main body?

tacit fulcrum
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It blobs main body. You can still deal direct damage to the weakpoints but using sludge for direct damage is terribly inefficient.

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But even burning status will chip away the weak points, which is what irks me so.

atomic prawn
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šŸ˜¢

old widget
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C4 is where itā€™s at for taking down the three ā€œearsā€. Wait for it to pause pre-tantrum then toss and detonate a C4. If done right you can get all ears dead with one hit even on 4p Haz5

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(Of course RIP terrain)

tacit fulcrum
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Can you do taht without volatile compound?

old widget
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Yeah. I spec for low damage extra satchel rock mover

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(Though the rock mover extra range doesnā€™t hurt the bugs, just saying damage is low)

atomic prawn
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yeah i spec for rock carving too

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still good for clapping the three bits

old widget
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I think sludge is definitely more support role for dread fights, slow the dread and maybe let engi or scout stack some electric on your puddle for additional slow

tacit fulcrum
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Absolutely melts any and all swarms though.

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And for that it is my beloved.

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Like, driller was my least played. But now ....

severe tusk
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I still prefer freezing swarms with the cryo cannon, but sludge is better than I thought it would be.

charred igloo
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im seeing tons of open deep dive lobbies, but i cant join any, is this cause theyre level locked? im pl83

dapper zinc
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you can't join deep dives in progress i think

finite viper
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jeez first phase of the edd this week is brutal

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tried twice, furthest i've gotten is dread killed and 9 aquarcs

harsh oasis
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how long does a deep dive take in average?

slender hound
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we ended up going double gunner and no driller just because killing the hiveguard was taking too long

sullen nest
harsh oasis
slender hound
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honestly hiveguard is usally the easiest dread but it takes so much longer to kill than the other two that I feel like it's brutal on the point extraction

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you don't have time to deal with all those stages

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not to mention there's no great place to fight it thanks to the combination of vertical cave and low o2. we ended up just fighting it at the minehead so that we'd have the turret support

ebon anchor
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My breachcutter doesn't seem to do much to the hiveguard 3 ear thingies

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Should I even be wasting ammo on it and just use it to save my ass during swarms instead

tacit fulcrum
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The time on target for BC is too low versus hiveguard. Unless you're using spinning death & plasma trail, save it for multiple softer targets.

finite viper
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whats the second phase?

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of the edd

tacit fulcrum
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When I survive the first I'll let you know. šŸ™‚

ebon anchor
ebon anchor
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Thank

finite viper
untold haven
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for stage 1 we drilled tunnels to fallback positions looking over the minehead and dropped supplies at those positions for air, which worked pretty well. also critical to defeat the first swarm, then immediately pop the dread and try to deal with it before the second swarm

finite viper
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was too slow with the dread in my group, always dragged into the second and third waves

quick cosmos
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If you can make it past phase 1, youā€™re in the clear. It took 7 attempts for me to get past it, though that happened to be the attempt we swapped a player out for a legendary 3 promoted player. I recommend you speedrun the aquarks and nitra first. Your goal should be to collect all the aquarks and nitra in the cave before the first swarm. After you fight the swarm, pop the dreadnought and with some heavy hitters you should be able to kill it before the second swarm.

toxic gust
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šŸ„²

merry geode
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how do people feel abt this week elite dd?

storm bridge
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it's a kick in the balls

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with a steel-toed boot

gusty fern
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My god, this week's EDD was evil

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At least the third mission was pretty easy

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But the first two were horrible, first one especially

merry geode
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third mission was a breeze

gusty fern
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Yeah, morkite with secondary mini mules

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Plus no modifiers

uncut jewel
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Shoutout to the couple of russians who did the EDD blind with me, zero downs across the board has to be some kind of record

gusty fern
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How lol

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My entire team went down in both mission 1 and mission 2

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And we had to iron will to save the day

uncut jewel
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I'm very strong as a driller, and they knew their shit (scout and gunner)

gusty fern
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Might've happened twice in the first mission

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Fair enough lol

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Idk, I kinda hate how bad the balance is between different objectives

uncut jewel
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Maybe they did it beforehand? Idk

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It was certainly close more than once

gusty fern
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Like hiveguard dreadnought + aquark primary + double negative modifiers + bad enemy set and mission layout is just stupid

uncut jewel
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Saved the dreadnaught for last

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Stage 1

gusty fern
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I mean you can do it first or last, don't think it really mattersw

uncut jewel
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I cleared the plateau just below the egg, made it a comfortable place to fight

gusty fern
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First might be easier because aquarks are pretty unlikely to kill you unless you don't have a scout

uncut jewel
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Dirt mover c4 underrated

gusty grotto
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c4 underrated for hiveguard. if you are solo it 1 shots all its weakpoints skipping that phase entirely

uncut jewel
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On that topic, I also feel like drillers in general often underestimates what they can do to improve the battlefield, terrain-wise

gusty fern
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I mean kinda, but also a lot of the time using C4 to clear areas is counterproductive for maneuverability

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Crater is way too deep

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Really wish C4 didn't just carve a full on sphere

gusty grotto
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detonate it while in the air to stop it from carving such a massive crater

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but thats hard to do in the first place since it can1 shot u too lol

uncut jewel
night granite
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well I finally finished the first stage but run out of ammo on the hiveguard next stage

uncut jewel
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2nd stage is big and sprawling with tons of nitra, don't just rush the egg

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think we had 300+ at the end of stage 3

night granite
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yeah but somehow we used four resupplies by the end

gusty fern
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I mean yeah, but stage 3 doesn't really have all that much that eats up your ammo other than generic swarms

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So really what you have at end of stage 1/2 matters which is probably not much

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Overall just make sure you bring weapons that aren't too ammo hungry or you're gonna have a bad time

uncut jewel
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truth

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also I gotta mention my favorite moment of the whole EDD, was a big drop on stage 2 to continue forward, scout zips ahead of course, I hoverboot down and was planning to try to point my laser straight up towards the gunner to indicate to him that he should land on my head

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he was already halfway down when I pitched up

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true rock and stone moment

gaunt forge
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Couldn't do the first mission.

uncut jewel
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kind of in the mood to help if you fancy another try

gaunt forge
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Not particularly. Thanks though.

quick cosmos
# merry geode how do people feel abt this week elite dd?

Iā€™ve played for about 200 hours and the first stage of the EDD is by far the hardest thing this game has ever thrown at me. Itā€™s the only time Iā€™ve ever sat and thought to myself: Iā€™m legitimately not having fun right now

severe tusk
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I wish I could try this EDD out on my home computer, but I come back from my trip Thursday afternoon. The potato laptop I have with me gets 20 fps (sometimes less) during swarms on haz 3. I tried last week's EDD solo a 2-3 times but couldn't get past the first stage on this setup, but it was also because I was nitra starved. The game generated a new map for me in between tries.

feral atlas
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This EDD is really being overhyped.

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It's not rocket science. Have a gunner and engi built for dread killing. Bum rush the nitra on stage 1, the location of which you should know if this is not your first attempt. Trigger dread when wave 1 starts to die down, and just kill it quickly. Take some more time if you want to get more nitra for stage 2, but just get out before wave 3 arrives.

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If you suck at Haz5 or dread killing or both, have the best available players pilot the engi and gunner slots. Or double up if you're truly desperate.

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Hiveguard is the easiest, tamest dread variant. If your best available 2 players can't deal with it while having dread loadouts, players need to be replaced.

stone wedge
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No but something is else

uncut jewel
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EDD and haz 5 is all about avoiding damage, if you wipe I can all but guarantee you failed on that part. If you want to improve, ask yourself at all times how you could've avoided that damage you just took

quick cosmos
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Calling the EDD this week ā€œoverhypedā€ is underselling it. Without proper team comp and communication, I donā€™t think it would be possible. Low O2 on an aquark mission is already pretty difficult. Volatile guts really should be classified as a negative modifier since it is definitely not helping you out on this mission. Due to the nature of point extractions, youā€™re facing a constant enemy stream with increasing swarm frequency. Fighting a dreadnought under those conditions (even though it is the easiest of the three types) is a tall order. Getting out quickly is the only way to beat stage 1, and the only way to do that is with a proper team of experienced players

feral atlas
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Team is an exaggeration.

quick cosmos
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That being said, stage 2ā€™s elite threat can throw some fun stuff your way, but itā€™s not unmanageable. Stage 3 is just a cakewalk even with no resupplies left

feral atlas
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1 Haz5 vet engi, or 2 Haz4 players on engi and gunner or double gunner with the correct loadouts should be able to deal with stage 1

quick cosmos
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Player level really shows up on this one. My team of PL 30-60 wasnā€™t able to do it, though we got close a few times. One of our guys left and a PL 700 showed up and we scraped by

feral atlas
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You don't really need comms. The standard 1 of each class teams is adequate, and equipment is just common sense, take single target.

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That's not very different from any other EDD. Most of them, you just need 1 useful player to drag the team along.

quick cosmos
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For the last four weeks Iā€™ve been able to do fine with my team even if it took a couple tries. Iā€™m level 70 now, and from my experience EDDā€™s are pretty doable even with a team of PL 30s. This one was just particularly rough

feral atlas
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Oh, yeah, if you're all under lvl 100s, it's going to look that way.

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But all EDD so far, with maybe 1 exception, haven't needed teams of 4 good players. Just 1 good player, and 3 warm bodies to mine and attract aggro from the bugs.

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The only difficulty the game creates is narrowing the selection of classes that the 1 good player can choose while having a reasonable chance of winning.

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Scout gets weeded out first, then driller, then either gunner or engi depending on objectives and mutators.

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This EDD hasn't reached the level yet where engi can't solo most of the bugs and the dread.

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Rest of the team doesn't even really need to shoot, just mine.

kindred swan
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is the first mission on teh EDD like really hard or is it just me?

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Coudl just be the scout tho, he aint grabbing the fuggin aquark

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20 minutes and still at 9

verbal flame
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Any suggestions for my first EDD?

feral atlas
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Not this one.

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At least, not at this time.

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Most public lobby EDD experiences after the weekend are going to be bad.

verbal flame
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What happened?

feral atlas
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Nothing has happened. Just selection factors come into play.

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The rewards that matter are only given once, on the successful completion of the EDD.

obtuse pasture
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general rule.. most of the exerienced players will have done the EDD by now.. so it is mostly people that are "trying again" one least try etc