deep-dive-discussion

[severe tusk]

No.

[naive shard]

ok

i mean i know it's procedural generation but

what i meant was just that they have to at least select the appropriate level generation right

[winter lantern]

Some of the DDs seem deliberately evil

Like the betc hidden right by the oil shale on a cliff (at least me as solo driller couldn't see it)

[naive shard]

there was one edd that was, if i recall correctly, which had a bet-c combined with the haunted creature. the map generation was spiralling downwards, you were basically inside a silo.

[severe tusk]

Oh yeah, that was the one EDD I did not complete because I waited until the last hour or two to try it and did not have an experienced team. It was on stage 2, I think. It was definitely rough.

[naive geode]

this weeks edd is

is

.

[naive shard]

so are they evaluated by the devs before going official? i mean...

[severe tusk]

I don't know why they would need to be.

[naive shard]

ok

sure thing

[vale falcon]

nah

[naive shard]

damn

[fast fog]

beat stage one solo! WHOO!

I just did all the aquarqs first then the black box. For some reason, bulk never showed up

Now I see that the second one is 3 mini mules as the main objective... oh joy...

Any tips for stage two, before I head there?

[vale falcon]

speed

[fast fog]

Ah. The thing I don't have as gunner

[old widget]

there were a lot of big stationary enemies on stage 2 as 4p

3 spitballers in the main room being the most memorable

solo...probably not as much

[vale falcon]

flashback to rooms with 10+ spitballers in ye olden days

[fast fog]

I remember the regular deep dive having a single spitballer in the first room.

[wraith shard]

just nuke the spitballers

ez pez

[fast fog]

always the plan, man

praise be to neurotoxin

[old widget]

\o/

[wraith shard]

radiation is better

[fast fog]

wish I had the fat boy mod

[wraith shard]

I got it like a few days ago

maybe 2-3

love it

[fast fog]

lost second part of EDD

fuel cell charging.

[onyx crypt]

For like this EDD, do you think there is a minimum average level to handle it? I am 120 and played with a 20, 30, and maybe 40 lvl player. We couldn't pull it off.

I think at some point, assuming it isn't a masqurading grey beard, you don't beat the first level with mostly greenbeards.

They played fine enough, but between upgrades and having the right perks, it feels like you have to have a decent setup.

[wraith shard]

Special items you can find for small buffs like 5% bonus health or extra 2% ammo from supply drops.

[quaint lake]

sometimes rank doesn't mean anything, it all depends on how you play

like for a masochistic hardcore idiot like me rank doesn't mean anything, because I am way better than my rank cuz I constantly torture myself with horrific challenges and almost only play haz5

so, no, you can manage even without good overclocks, and you can't play EDD before unlocking all the mods for your gun, so that should be enough

the only consistent way to determine if you are good enough for EDD, from what I heard here, is how often you play and win haz5

[safe gulch]

< 100+ rank, but still feels like a greenbeard

[oak jay]

Guess I need to play Haz 5 more. Haz 4 is the perfect "Get in and have a relaxed time" level, I'm not always in the mindset for a 5.

[wraith shard]

When is new deep dives

[lone lance]

You technically can play EDD without unlocking all the mods, as mods can be somewhat pricy when just having promoted your first dwarf. I hope nobody plays EDD without a mod in each tier, though.

[burnt sandal]

every thursday

[bright mountain]

weee, post-weekend EDD fundays

[safe gulch]

What if some mad dwarves decided to run EDD without mods, OCs and perks? Are EDDs even possible by then?

I mean, Karl would, but can we?

[flat dirge]

Pretty sure it would be possible, but that would actually depend on teamwork now I think more than ever.

[burnt sandal]

possible but hard

[eager palm]

I've seen someone who did a solo haz 5 escort mission without weapons

[bright mountain]

oh god, engie decided instead of joining us at black box, he activated bet-c and used up both drop pods next to betc

[burnt sandal]

pain

[eager palm]

actually I found it

@safe gulch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKR99yYbFYg

no mods OCs or perks

and default weapons/grenades for what it's worth

[safe gulch]

By the beard-

Karl would be proud of this scout

[quaint lake]

b o s c o

not karl

shame

shame on you

but still very cool

[haughty needle]

You're a monster. NICE!

[thorn crater]

where are the greybreads when you need them

[shadow shoal]

They didn’t procrastinate

[rotund sky]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[slender river]

The greybeards complete the new DD/EDD within the first hour of its opening on Thursday's, after that they drink in the Abyss Bar waiting for the next Dives to arrive

[severe tusk]

I am a procrastinating greybeard when it comes to EDDs.

[fast fog]

Same

And I rarely do online

[lone lance]

in case someone wonders, yes you can do DDs offline, you just gotta be connected to the internet to get the new one.

[fast fog]

Yep

Pretending to be offline is a lifestyle choice

[wintry edge]

how much exp do you ususaly get from deep dive?

[leaden cypress]

around 20K for EDD ?

[wintry edge]

ok cool

[leaden cypress]

a bit lower for regular DD

Though they are far from being efficient in term of XP

[wintry edge]

yeah thats fair

just asking because i want to do one eventually

[supple bramble]

Is the leadstorm overclock good for deep dives?

I'm finding difficulty with being immobile.

[severe tusk]

Jump then shoot over and over when necessary.

[shadow shoal]

Or ride the zips if you’re lazy

[lone lance]

Yeah, Lead Storm just takes practice, it is more habit than anything. jumping, ziplining, or just simple fire-manouver-fire, keeping distance and the gun revved up.

[naive shard]

yes, yes it is.

[umbral apex]

i soloed the thing yesterday and gunner was the only class that worked for me after SO many failed runs

ran the thunderhead with neurotoxin payload and a high damage bulldog to make up for the lack of single target damage on my primary

still, absolute nightmare to do

got a bulk detonator during the black box on the run i succeeded with and BOY was that fun

[hollow frost]

So did I, 4 times....

[shrewd pollen]

no shield and bet-c EDD

absolutely brutal we didnt stand a chance

[onyx crypt]

We just passed lvl 1 and I HAVE A GREAT TIP!

(we lost at lvl 2, which is easier

But at level 1, keep one person (I was gunning on a zip) outside of the black box room. Everything spawns in the big cavern, especially the rollies. The swarms you can just shoot in the butt on the way in.

That made the teams job much easier.

I don't think any of them were ever even getting damage.

[quaint lake]

keep scout kiting half the bugs in a giant cavern, good plan

can't really help on black box much

[severe tusk]

I often bail out of an area defense zone if we're getting overrun to try to get some heat off of the team when all of the bugs are being funneled there. I know that it takes less time to complete when there are more people in the zone, but that doesn't do the team any good if everyone dies. What I don't know is if one person in the zone is a 25% upload rate, two is 50%, three is 75%, and 4 is 100%. Or if it's more something like one person is 50%, two is 75%, three is 87.5%, and four is 100% or whatever.

[urban ridge]

Wanna hear a tragic story? I was doing normal deep dive and i was on the final part ready to start the drilldozer. i went to vault over her still inside the box but opened to get to an objective item, and my dwarf decided to get stuck in between the drill and the opened box corner meters away from the start button. I was softlocked and i tried every possible thing to get out, but to no avail, i was stuck. I let the glyphids kill me while i spammed bosco to go light up a random wall.

[wraith shard]

sad moment

[brave birch]

F

[manic pivot]

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Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[lone lance]

I wonder if Muffin Cats drop pod finally got off planet by now.

[wraith shard]

so uh

how do I solo black box on stage 1, any tips?

[severe tusk]

Like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tt04E_KNfw&t=96s

[wraith shard]

I'm engie though

[severe tusk]

It should be easier then 😛

[wraith shard]

hah I'm a newbie

[severe tusk]

Do you usually play solo?

[wraith shard]

depends

I failed on the black box, not enough space

[wraith shard]

this weeks black box is kinda cancerous, bugs just walk over my platforms with repellant

[quaint lake]

man who teaches those greenbeards to do bunkers

damn leaf-lovers, 1 opressor and we are dead

[wraith shard]

I Did it

it was cheesy

but I ended up doing the black box

[restive patrol]

lure nades

[wraith shard]

nah, dug a bunker and laid down like 20 proximity grenades

got murdered by a detonator but it worked

[lone lance]

Repellant platforms only count at twice the move distance for bugs by the way. They don't avoid them if there aren't a good alternative.

[vale falcon]

So usually, spreading the platfoams on the roof and walls will do a better job

[urban ridge]

may i ask a question

[urban ridge]

what exactly is a "black box"

[wraith shard]

one of the objectives on deep dives, like the thing on salvage missions you build up

[scarlet jewel]

think of the salvage uplink box thing, but you can retry it if you fail it

[vale falcon]

Deep dive objective, it's a defense zone similar to salvage mission's uplink

[urban ridge]

' - '

when did that become a thing

[vale falcon]

Ever since deep dives were added

[urban ridge]

that sounds cool

[scarlet jewel]

how long have you been playing for

[vale falcon]

It's a secondary objective

[urban ridge]

not long

i havent done that objective yet in deep dives

is it only in elite ones?

[scarlet jewel]

no

[urban ridge]

oh ok then i just havent encountered it

is it in this deep dive>?

or elite?

[scarlet jewel]

elite

[urban ridge]

ah thats why i havent seen it

[vale falcon]

Stage 1 rn yeah

[urban ridge]

is it, hard?

[scarlet jewel]

stage 1 of the current edd or the black box objective in general

[urban ridge]

the black box in general

[scarlet jewel]

not really

[urban ridge]

i know edd are a challenge alrdy

[scarlet jewel]

you just need to prepare for bugs

lots of em

some elite dives are easier than regular dives

[urban ridge]

what exactly is the black box itself

[scarlet jewel]

salvage uplink basically

but you can retry it if you fail it

[urban ridge]

but what is the object

what are you uplinking

[scarlet jewel]

something

i havent really listened to mc

[urban ridge]

kinda wanna try the EDD just to see what its like

but then again im scared

[lone lance]

it is just a haz 4.5-5.5

but the first part is nasty.

[urban ridge]

i wonder if i can cheese it with a specific tactic of mine

[scarlet jewel]

what is that tactic

[urban ridge]

the only tactic gunner has

[scarlet jewel]

if its bunkering, ill let you know, a friend and i encountered a bulk after the black box

zipping?

[urban ridge]

zipline just above the uplink and pray

[lone lance]

enemies from all angles, will be fun

[urban ridge]

i rly wanna try it now

it sounds like im missing out

[scarlet jewel]

the black box is in a small room

have fun

[urban ridge]

welp off i go to try the EDD

my first EDD

wish me luck

wait i should probably promote gunner first

so i can get xp

[lone lance]

meh xp anyway

[urban ridge]

how much

once u complete ity

like 12k?

im guessing somewhere around 12k+

eh im lazy not worth it

anyway wish me luck

rocknstone

ill do one step better, ill watch videos while doing the edd

[vale lintel]

tell us how that shield disruption point extraction goes while you're not focusing fully on it then

[urban ridge]

ok so i got through the black box thing just barely

and then died

so atleast i can say that

the second part had a bulk and i fell into a hole, which it proceeded to hellfire me into atoms

[vale lintel]

amazing

[iron forum]

So i accidentally kicked a friend, and now it wont let him join my game, how do I undo that

[scarlet jewel]

You wait

[iron forum]

Oh it is a time based thing?

[feral atlas]

no; it's for the remainder of the host session

[willow oxide]

I had to fight tooth and nail to get thru black box

I did it solo with cryo driller though

[urban ridge]

but did you watch a markiplier uno video while playing as gunner and finish it

just barely

i effectively got a headache after finishing that

[willow oxide]

Lol no I can’t say I did

[urban ridge]

and then proceeded to get folded by a bulk

[willow oxide]

I died on stage 2 fuel cells

[urban ridge]

right out of the drop pod a bulk spawned, i fell in a hole lost 50% of my hp

and it hellfired me

[willow oxide]

I had a bulk during stage 1 extraction, but I had bosco focus it and I ignored it, and somehow he killed it

[feral atlas]

cryo driller's not that good for solo

at least, specifically not for static defense

[jagged spade]

I can't find the last 18 morkite in the deep dive

Unhappy dwarf noises

[naive shard]

def on the ceiling

[lone lance]

hidden behind a mushroom

[cunning thistle]

I had some under the hertstone material once

[fast fog]

I legit run the exact same setup for mine. Neurotoxin is perfect for just one tapping grunts, webs, and acid spitters. They get poisoned, it's the same as hitting them with a pickaxe 10 times, essentially. Elephant rounds on my bulldog because you just get so many of them. When you only need one shot to kill most things, who cares about recoil? Especially amazing for mactera. Just pop them like zits.

[shadow shoal]

laughs in Ice Storm

[winter lantern]

Really? Is ice storm good

I always imagined the slower freeze time and less ammo would kill the effectiveness

But, I do admit playing cryo solo you lack dps

[manic pivot]

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Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[feral atlas]

sticky flamer builds are considerably better for static defense, especially on shieldless, and even more so on solo

passively creating area denial that will kill most squishies is better than a freeze zone that only applies right next to you

[vale lintel]

eh I got the defense done with a Feedback Loop autocannon

turns out, between possible fear, 2/3 damage taken, or double damage dealt, one is better than the others

[shadow shoal]

You didn't say cryo sucked compared to flamer, you said cryo wasn't that good in solo

[feral atlas]

not that good for static defense

in the context of running this EDD solo

and to be clear, if you're good enough, nearly every loadout will work

so when I say "good" or "bad", it's nearly always comparative in terms of what's superior or inferior

[naive geode]

in the one edd with swarmageddon and elites i found a standard flamer+subata build worked really nicely cause subata can chew through hp on lit targets and sticky flames helps with the big guys and lil guys

usually i would say the best overall loadout is probably like tuned cooler and tcf but the other builds can work nicely

[vale lintel]

just run burning hell for small targets, on the lead storm for medium targets, and volatile bullets for big ones

[naive geode]

???

[normal lynx]

eugh, this weeks EDD was a nightmare

||BET-C stage 1 kept fucking us up||

[naive geode]

the room with the blackbox is so ass

literally bunker required lol

[feral atlas]

I’ve beaten it twice without bunkers

Just don’t suck

The room is already basically a bunker with the choke at the entrance

[vale lintel]

one of my teams tried to bunker, breached into the cave below, and died defending in there

[civic yoke]

you need a fast thinking driller if they are going to make a bunker

[quasi cove]

or an engie who can see where to make bunkers

lots of small caves or positions can be roofed or given elevated floor and instantly become good vantage spots

[daring halo]

my team just flat ignored the BET-C on our clear run, we tried once before and got a bulk det to insta-kill her, had a pair of bulk dets spawn right after she was repaired, and then another bulk det spawn in the black box room
none in the second attempt though thank god

the bigger concern imo was the sheer volume of younglings

[manic pivot]

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New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[lone lance]

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[manic pivot]

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New Deep Dives are now available!
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[dim gorge]

Regular DD stage 1: 4 eggs, 2 mini mules, Shield disruption

[severe tusk]

Muffin Cat is back. Time for pretty graphics for DD/EDD mission notes again 😄

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Corrosive Scream
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 2 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Twins | Critical Weakness
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + Classic Dreadnought | Haunted Cave

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Stony Fear
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Classic + Twins) + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Swarmageddon
Stage 2: 200 Morkite + Classic Dreadnought | Rich Atmosphere Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + 📡 1 Black Box | Shield Disruption

[north hemlock]

[open tide]

** Swarmageddon **
( Internal Screams )

[weak carbon]

laughs in crspr

[lone lance]

Muffin is back woo!

[dim gorge]

Regular DD stage 2: 2 mini mules, 1 dreadnought (type pending), Critical weakness

[broken shore]

EDD 2nd 200morkite 1 dreadnought / mactera plague + rich atmosphere

dreadnought is classic

[dim gorge]

Regular DD stage 2 dread is twins

[broken shore]

EDD 3rd 2 Dreadnoughts + 1 black box / shield disruption

[weak carbon]

Oh boy

here we go again

[quiet mortar]

Alotta Dreadnoughts this week lol

[kind crater]

oof

this looks like a rough one

[weak carbon]

This is almost as bad as the hollow bough one

[kind crater]

at least most of the dreadnought are the main objective so no random swarms

[dim gorge]

RIP, game crashed as soon as I finished stage 2...

[broken shore]

edd 3rd dreadnought twins+classic

[crimson tinsel]

So it’s the same as the first stage Dreads?

[severe tusk]

Well this EDD looks like a bit of a challenge.

[lone lance]

No, first was classic + twins.

[severe tusk]

Yes, oddly no Hiveguard though.

[lone lance]

With how slow hiveguards are, he will probablu show up for EDD stage 2 at Wednesday or something.

[raven grove]

Man, EDD going all-in on dreads this time, eh?

[crimson tinsel]

We’ve been dreading this week

[lone lance]

DRG were gonna drill down a nuke, but then spotted morkite.

[crimson tinsel]

Wonder how many bulks will spawn during the dread fights

[raven grove]

Not enough

[crimson tinsel]

Four hours spent mining crassus craters

[restive patrol]

DOUBLE DREAD

LETS GOOOOO

ICE DRILLER POG

[trail dove]

Dreadnought week

[weak carbon]

double cryo driller should work

[crimson tinsel]

Cue the Wait wait wait! clip from the Dread’s perspective

[open tide]

Haunted Cave + Dread is by far the most stressful thing you can do in this game

The ghost sometimes even throw itself in your sightline making you have to reposition yourself in order to shoot the dreadnought.

I'm glad this isn't EDD, it's just regular DD

[neat forum]

Laughs in 5 dreadnaughts

[weak carbon]

to be fair

that comment aged like milk

[neat forum]

Fairness is a myth

[wraith shard]

horror in NDD is so cute

it really thinks it can kill us

[wraith shard]

I stood still to see how much damage the horror do on H3.5. I took 3-4 stomps and still had more than 25% of my health

og dread's bite do less than 40 damage (if you're solo) too

you can really play hug game with both of them and stay fine

[terse hill]

ghost and dread are both at the beginning, if you play scout you can bait the dread into ghosts explosion

[wraith shard]

you don't even need to be scout to do that lol

I did it with gunner, but by mistake

[lone lance]

The biggest danger of the ghost is the huge distraction anyway. Bite might not kill you but the Dread fireballs while you are disoriented will.

[open tide]

I'm over reacting then. Used to play EDD where you die with one touch of this mf

That's why i'm so afraid of ghosts in this game

[dark raven]

5 dreads in EDD this week? i think i'm already getting PTSD

[lone lance]

The dreads are there to trick you into not bringing aoe for swarmageddon.

[open tide]

I hope i can still do it with my good old minigun

Don't want to give up damage just because of 1 stage

[dark raven]

well i'm driller, i always bring aoe 😄

[dark raven]

not sure about stressful but the week they introduced double negative mutators i played swarmageddon + elite threat on Haz 5 when the map rolled haz5 difficulty into "now you die" area... that map was total blast, we each had like 500+ kills at the end with some people being over 800 iirc (managed to win the map)

[open tide]

I'm ok with other harzards. Well, swarmageddon and haunted cave are the only exceptions. Sometimes i just want to open the map and see where i need to go but i can't do it because bugs are all over the place with swarmageddon, and haunted cave.... well, if it's a dread mission, it won't give you a minute to rest. Can't even mine without being exploded in 100 pieces. The f*cker follows you around like an ex gf lul

[urban ridge]

Alright boys

whats the deep dive looking like

before i do it

[quasi cove]

it looks like fun dwarf, now go in there and get paid.

[urban ridge]

:I

ok

i guess i dont need to know

surprise

BUT FIRST weekly assigns

[olive tulip]

Imo Swarmageddon waves feels too quick between waves and Haunted Cave is plain unfun

[wraith shard]

Haunted Cave? I didn't notice it was since we were so fast.

[vale lintel]

normally people would notice a persistent mission-long bulk sound

[willow oxide]

Me when black box 2 dreads shield disruption

[vale lintel]

ugh

[rugged basin]

@maiden kayak i do have a lot of true solo scout runs of the EDDs uploaded https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7aaUfYtDSSYY4mhEoeFtj-YNtSqhv8nV

[maiden kayak]

dude nice, i’m legit watching the murderous storm one that you did uhh

almost a month ago

[rugged basin]

oh haha nice

[maiden kayak]

i was just wrapping up mission 1

that was what prompted me to ask how these solo scout EDDs happened lol

[rugged basin]

not every EDD is a breeze, in fact one of them i gave up and did as driller

[maiden kayak]

i’ll keep trying, scout is my favorite job for sure, nice job on your runs man

[azure wraith]

hyper propellant absolutely carries that deep dive

[rugged basin]

thanks! definitely the most fun class to solo as

[vale lintel]

seven dreadnaughts across both of them of course it would

[opal minnow]

Cring

[spice plank]

No all who wander are lost

I, for example, am fearful for my life

[raven grove]

I may actually be forced to not take crispr for this one.

[next blaze]

Sticky flame slowdown + neurotoxin is wondrous against the 3 OG dreads in this mission, I'd say! We didn't have a heavy single-target setup (Engi was stubby + breach, Scout was fast fire-rate GK2, Driller was sticky flames + explosive subata, and I was big bertha w/ the AoE mod for swarmers + explosive neurotoxin bulldog), but we sped through the EDD in just below 40 minutes

[tall meadow]

I’m still bringing my hyperprop for this EDD

Yea gonna need neurotoxin for this one

[wet vault]

Aye yo wtf is that EDD?!

[raven grove]

I usually take breach for engi elimination. Just no-sell that unbreakable armor.

[tall meadow]

Hyperprop going to be fine here , if only 1st stage had no swarmegeddon

[wet vault]

what would be a good weapon for engineer for the dreads? I usually run emp turret pulse for aoe

hyperprop for damage or fatboy? would the breach be good even?

[next blaze]

I adore 12322 mini shells in just about all cases, if only for the sheer ammo economy

oh and breach is fine against dreads, but if you want more single target and cryo synergy, then hyper prop is great

It's nice having the plasma trail on breach for swarmers in stage 1, too

[tall meadow]

EM generally I will never go for especially against dreads

If giving you the option of fat boy or hyperprop, I would take hyper in a heartbeat

Breach would also work fine here

Hyperprop and cryo driller will go well hand in hand , just watch out for that swarmegeddon

[marsh dragon]

hey fellas, i'm looking to do my first deep dive and i wanted to know what kind of difficulty i should expect from the standard version

[uncut raptor]

DD solo was fun, can't wait for quintuple dreads for the EDD

[lone lance]

Deep dives are essentially three hazard 3 to 3.5 missions in a row, so don't be too Intimidated.

[crimson tinsel]

How is the nitra count this week?

[marsh dragon]

oh yeah i can do that, thank you

[crimson tinsel]

I thought normal DD was ranging from 3.5 to 4.5

[lone lance]

Check pin for what the objectives are this week, but give it a go!

[crimson tinsel]

Depending on warnings

[lone lance]

Apparently not, thought it was 3, 3.5 then 4 but not according to wiki

[crimson tinsel]

That’s weird, it says 3.5 for both one and two warning missions

Either way it should be fun by the time I get to play it…on Saturday

[marsh dragon]

can someone join my deep dive if i've already started the mission?

[tall meadow]

try #lfg-steam

[marsh dragon]

no i don't need one, i just want to know if a random could drop in

thank you though

[lone lance]

No, no latejoining. People who get disconnected can rejoin though.

[old widget]

Deep dives can’t have double warnings tho

[crimson tinsel]

Maybe I’m reading the wiki wrong

[winter smelt]

The Dreadnought Hiveguard are nowhere to be found

[zinc coral]

did no bosco scout on EDD with my first run through. not too bad except for the fact that I was getting constant FPS freeze frames cuz I was recording. could've easily avoided my 2 deaths if not for that (altho the EDD bugged out again and decided to add 1 more fake down to my down counter so it counted 3 downs smh)

[meager topaz]

how is edd this week?

[jagged spade]

Painful

[fringe kettle]

Is it actually difficult or is it more people don't know how to handle the warnings?

[tame verge]

it's a lot of dreads

and people have trouble with it

so far it's alright

[tame verge]

Yeah easy EDD as long as you know what you're doing against dreads

[raven grove]

We just completed the EDD with three engineers and a scout. Gotta say, 6 turrets all going at once is great.

[lone lance]

if turrets ain't hitting weakspots you aren't using enough.

[random shadow]

whats on the normal dd this week?

[wraith shard]

dreadnoughts

[sinful rover]

i'm starting to get tired of shield disruption on first mission

[severe tusk]

It's better than shield disruption on the last stage 😄

[sinful rover]

yea

[feral atlas]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1729936963209159965/3A7AE3D99B1A1EACFE9D27E823A0CF31865510C3/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

https://64.media.tumblr.com/2dcc67a39d9794ea1c443570ef109fe4/tumblr_inline_nsat9xx3Pl1r36xke_500.png

I'm surprised we actually won that one.

[gleaming tinsel]

sees lots of dreadnaughts on EDD happy gunner noises

[gleaming oar]

How are the deep dives this week?

Noticed that we got lots of dreadnoughts on edd

[icy chasm]

regular DD pretty ez

shield dis on first mission, but abundance of nitra throughout

only worrying part is last stage

haunted- 200 Morkite + 1 dread

and dread can practically be popped from spawn

enough room to circle around pod crater and keep ghost away while fighting

so could be worse

[wraith shard]

what should i look out for this is my first deep dive

[severe tusk]

Mainly just stage 3 as mentioned above. But also know how to fight the classic dreadnought and The Twins.

[wraith shard]

how u do that

[quick kiln]

*flop*

so I just went ahead and beat the deep dive solo today.

first two were simple and easy

the third was pain

[vale falcon]

it was a flop?

[tall meadow]

this week EDD fairly easy, everything very close to each other

as expected , running hyperprop engi, cryo freeze driller and neurotoxin gunner is more than enough to bully the dreadnaughts

[pale sigil]

OOPS! all dreadnoughts

[tall meadow]

exactly ^

blackbox placement is pretty fine, if you really want easy, just have engi platfom the hole above you and make more land for you to stand on the right, bugs get funneled easily into one area

[pale sigil]

that's what my engi did

just sealed it off and we locked down the front

[tall meadow]

yup

this week EDD is pure dreadnaught bullying

2nd stage just makes it hilarious with rich atmosphere

[quick kiln]

If only I had hyperpropellant...

[rapid maple]

Alright

FUCK THE THIRD STAGE OF THAT DD

that is all

[wraith shard]

should i wait to do edd or

[restive patrol]

no

full send

[wraith shard]

ok

[restive patrol]

just remember to kite both dreads to spawn

no ifs ands or buts

[wraith shard]

follow engi got it

[restive patrol]

give him a chance to reload

[shrewd bane]

Only EDD complaint was the lack of red sugar in stage 3. It was okay.

[tall meadow]

by then you had so much nitra left

you get your health back via supply pods kek

[zealous pond]

there was so much red sugar in the first two stages that I wasn't about to complain it was scarce on the third

[tall meadow]

indeed, just gotta use those extra supply pods for health refill when really need

[clear zinc]

NA | POD 30 | random missions

[night granite]

today's EDD wasn't so bad. The black box at the end was pretty tame and even the 15th million shield distruption in a row didn't hurt that much

[quasi cove]

Felt like the general vibe was pretty good this edd, did it with some greenbeards and they handled shield disrupt pretty well. I think they are learning, rock and stone!

[tall meadow]

as said before, this EDD is a good intro for first timers to give it a shot

just gotta make sure folks know how to deal with the dreadnaughts

[quasi cove]

No dorettas for those that hate drilldozer too

[tired yew]

EDD's 1st stage is easy if done well, 2nd stage is extremely easy, 3rd stage we were so close until we perished during black box

[night granite]

To Greenbeards:
How to deal with dreadnoughts
Hyperpropellant. Cyrocannon then Hyperpropellant, if you're feeling fancy.
Thank you for listening to: How to deal with dreadnoughts

[quasi cove]

“Instructions unclear! Hyper prop inserted into gunner, mission fail!”

[rapid maple]

🖐️

What if we don't have hyper propellant?

[quasi cove]

Pray to god your small delete button is good enough

Or lots of nitra

[night granite]

then obtain it before ever fighting a single dreadnought. Avoid all elimination missions and make sure the DDs don't have any dreadnoughts until you get it

that or just wallow in despair

[quasi cove]

Its not impossible without hyper prop, just really slow

[night granite]

oh and if you ever THINK of using the breach cutter
then good for you it's a nice weapon with good crowd control and single target damage

[rapid maple]

I WILL fight the dreadnoughts with my stubby

Em discharge too

I WILL like it

[naive geode]

hey does pp work with fn on epc

[burnt sandal]

you use the breach cutter

[jolly vortex]

I approve of this recommendation

[zinc coral]

lol haz3.5 haunted cave ghost tickles..tanked 3 stomps while depositing morkite. also shortest morkite mission i've done, had dark morkite and completed the mission by that first cave out of spawn

[lone lance]

Any particularly bad EDD dread rooms?

[weak carbon]

This EDD was very fun i gotta say

[trail dove]

the og dreadnought's room in stage one is a little cramped so we lured it to the starting chamber

[weak carbon]

perfect balance of challenging and fun to play

[pale sigil]

the cocoons are either in a good room, a clearable room, or right next to a good room

had no trouble with it this edd

hardest spawn is one of the cocoons in stage 3 near the black box, but cleaning it up shouldn't take long if the driller is on top of it

[weak carbon]

Just bring a instafreeze build and youre good i guess

[stone crag]

i think edd and dd this week needs a dread purge

[lone lance]

Why do you think they sendt in the dwarves!

[mellow cove]

This EDD trolled me

Everything was smooth until black box

Just as I started it a wave of web spitters, oppressor and warden spawned

Used up both revives and IW to complete that

[shadow shoal]

Disgusting

[tulip idol]

Went hyperprop+T-Arc on this EDD - all dreads got destroyed, and arc fully covered one of two sides during black box defence.

[shadow shoal]

Arc good

[wraith wing]

I literally just did that on my last elim missoon

[gleaming oar]

Edd was intresting

If you have good communication its significantly easier

[brisk pollen]

It's funny that I got hyperprop during this week

Time to redo the EDD with random with it

[slim root]

Can I just say... I hate Haunted Cave.

[ancient arrow]

But meh boom

[lone lance]

Nice thst people think I can hit shit without proximity detonation!

[willow oxide]

Ayo what the shit is up with the Edd?

This is worse than last week

[novel ore]

last week was fine this one is pain

[willow oxide]

Point extraction shield disruption not to mention the black box was hell

I don’t even wanna think about stage 3 this week

[ember yacht]

first mission last week was pain

worst blackbox in a while

[burnt sandal]

what was it last week ?

I don't even remember lol

[old widget]

Shield disruption triple length PE with BB

And a really high roll on encounter strength RNG for Haz 4.5

[fierce pecan]

this EDD is a pain

me n my crew were doing well until the rando gunner decided to force bunkering on us with the black box in the final stage

[hazy glen]

how much harder is edd than just regular haz 4/5 missions?

its obviously longer and week dependent but i mean in terms of spawns and stuff

[iron forum]

It goes 4.5, 5, 5.5

[hazy glen]

im too scared to do them lol

i just play on 4 and do the regular deep dives

[iron forum]

This weeks edd honestly wasn't the worst

I did it with some randos, and we got it on the first try

[hazy glen]

maybe ill give it a shot i just really want overclocks

i have quite a few good ones but i just like collecting them so getting as many per week is my goal

[fierce pecan]

yeah its not terrible

[hazy glen]

doable solo?

i was just going to jump in and try it with neurotoxin thunderhead and pray

[upbeat obsidian]

You'll be there a long time with NTP, there are 5 Dread cocoons. Otherwise, probably doable solo, but that sounds more painful than with a team.

[hazy glen]

yeah heck with solo i just did it with randoms and we won first try

that was fun though

[stuck hamlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/517808592943054858/896177806961156148/unknown-60.png

for us the hard part was the glitches molly 25m away from the droppod, that happened twice (first time she was stuck and we didn't freed her in time)
had to create plats and destroy them to move molly
but she kept spawning the directional poles so when working on freeing her my fps died from 70 to 7

[wraith shard]

https://youtu.be/1V3JxR4W5Fg

figure this should be here i guess

[brave root]

Do you get rewards even if you've done the deep dive?

[old widget]

No additional overclocks/blanks for repeating a stage.

Repeats just give you XP, gold, and anything you manage to keep from a hoarder (if you find one), but there are much more time efficient ways to get those than a DD

[fierce pecan]

unless you're a deep dive speedrunner, in which case, grind away

i remember seeing a video of a 10 minute deep dive

[wraith shard]

do have the link?

[fierce pecan]

nope, but i can look for it

https://youtu.be/N9qstQT0NDg

here

the way they 2 cycled that hiveguard is amazing

[wraith shard]

thank you

[rapid solstice]

The Elite Deep Dive was really rough. But we pulled it off. https://i.imgur.com/BnDftbn.png

[pallid sundial]

EDD is easier solo imo

[rapid solstice]

Had a scout as our 4th, but he DC'd at the very end. Hope he just swapped to solo.

[rapid solstice]

What strategy do you use to deal with dreadnaughts when solo?

Does Bosco just target the arse?

Been years since I've gone solo, tbh

[pallid sundial]

Gunner with leadstorm leadstorm

And dash

I'ma try doing it with engi too

[sour totem]

When using karl.gg calculators (scout gk2) should I be looking at dps, mag dmg or total dmg?

[quasi cove]

What difficulty would you say solo dd/edd are?

I'm looking to get into them but not sure because the skillset seems completely different from roles in groups

[wraith shard]

For DD imagine an extra long basic mission, for EDD you are gunna want some people who communicate and have a balanced loadout

[quasi cove]

Sorry, I have done around 15 edd/dd, my question was about getting into solos

[wraith shard]

for solos DD is pretty easy, for EDD get a good amount of ammo mods as well as bonus beer and whatnot. best thing to do is go as fast as possible and do your best to avoid using supply for just health. unstable matrix cores are not recommended since you will have to face entirely different places each time. get all the nitra you can see and skip gold, you will get more than enough credits at the end. class recommendation is scout and driller mainly for mobility.

of course thats just my opinion mainly

[quasi cove]

Yeah I'm 3 star on driller and engi, gunner and scout close to 3rd promo but I'd probably get into driller solo dives

issue is that I heard people use crisper and I'm a cryo/freeze fan

[leaden cypress]

both are good

The only issue i have with flamethrower is how bad it is against dread because of their tremendous fire res

[brave root]

Can I get a 🍞

[olive tulip]

Reminder that scaling for Escorts if soloing are a scam so you best be prepared

[burnt sandal]

okay ?

[olive tulip]

Rocks have same as hp as if you're a duo on EDD

Bosco technically counts as a "duo" but he wont be much help dealing with them

[burnt sandal]

Alright, it's just that it comes from nowhere lol

especially considering there's no escort this week 😄

[olive tulip]

Have to be mentally prepared since last week gave us double Escort on DD

[burnt sandal]

I see

[olive tulip]

Inb4 double escort edd next week

Karl save us if magma + lethal or something

[shadow shoal]

Triple escort time

With black box

[tidal spruce]

haz 5.5 shield disruption was pain

[lone lance]

the black box on EDD stage 3 was not too horrible if you drill the shit out of the area to flatten it

[tidal spruce]

yeah, it wasn't bad

i had a hard time fixing up the cave entrance above it though

[lone lance]

mind the small tunnels, platform the hell out of the stuff you don't drill

[tidal spruce]

im sad that i didn't get to use hyperprop on the DD

my teammate was playing engi as his first promoted class so i had to go scoot

[lone lance]

I made grand plans for trivalizing swarmageddon with gunner.

I also had to go scoot.

still, BoM is kinda fun on dreads with a good cryo and IFGs

[tidal spruce]

IFG is amazing in general

the fact that you can stun the haunted cave guy

[lone lance]

Yeah, I should really get my cryo grenade skills up to par, but you csn just never go wrong bringing IFGs.

[tidal spruce]

as far as i can tell with cryo, just yeet them into a pack of enemies, and let your teammates kill them

[lone lance]

the trick is to land it juust right to take out an entire pack of macarenas

[tidal spruce]

or swarmers

[lone lance]

seems wasteful, i already use my zhuks too little

and not like the chad IFGs, where you got six and can throw them willy-nilly :p

[brave root]

Thanks for this

[fierce pecan]

cryo nades are awesome against breeders

[brave root]

Never tried using dash on gunner but it really helps a lot

[fierce pecan]

i saw a dude take out two breeders with one cryo grenade yesterday

[burnt sandal]

stonks ⤴️

dat value

[lone lance]

I still live on that weird crystal cave dive where i took out a breeder with cryo zhuks, lol. thing was in a tight hallway.

[lone lance]

the regular DD stage 3 was evil, starting room was a dead end with one exit, ghost spawned to box us in. dread was there, too.

[severe tusk]

My random group just had whoever the ghost was aggroed on lead it down the tunnel as the rest of us dealt with the dread. We had maybe a couple of downs in that fight, nothing too bad.

[burnt edge]

Does the haunted horror get affected by the scoot pheromones

[burnt sandal]

not sure but possibly ?

they are affected by slow so why not the pheromones

[latent heron]

i hate shield disturb on elite dive

[crimson tinsel]

First DDE finished

[west merlin]

Oof I did not like that pit on the regular DD stage 1

We all died in it in the first 2 minutes after I fell in and the gunner got both stabbered and leeches riding a zipline down, 2/3 of us died int he same pit on the 2nd attempt

I hadn't realized how much damage those stabby spikes do, like 50 in a single stab?

Then at the end the molly took some bizarre route out that we lost the trail on and we had an incredibly stressful escape

...which turned out to be leading to the starting room so we could have rode the zipline I placed at the start (before we noticed the compressed dirt) but were too panicked to check

[clever pendant]

that combo of the cave leech and stabber killed me outright first run... god that felt bad <.<

[west merlin]

Wow looking back having finished Stage 3 I can't believe I was complaining about 1.

Although we actually won the last stage despite popping the cocoon as soon as we saw it and struggling incredibly hard to navigate the room

Very glad we were all in voice chat.
Our Engy came up with the plan that he'd lure the ghost away so the 2 of us (gunner/scout) could fight the dread, dug through the compressed dirt and was running through the caves, but they both stayed in the cave with us and we both died

Engy: "You have iron will right?"
Me: "Yeah I'm gonna use it now"
Him: "Wait no don't. Let me lead them away and you can revive Scout and [I forget what he planned to do after exactly]"

Dreadnought and Ghost burrowed after him together which was actually hugely helpful in opening up the map.

We somehow wound up in this like... region that looped around which was still terrible but way better for fighting than the spawn room.
And we actually managed to kill the dreadnought after a lot of incredibly intense running and dying and reviving

One of the most memorable games I've ever had in this game

[west merlin]

Btw we didn't get a Swarm the entire time. A few scattered swarmers and then enemies in the final chase.
Is that a thing for like, if you get Dreadnought + Haunted Cave specifically?

[crimson tinsel]

We had the engie stay at the last room and he started running back up the tunnel it made when we popped the dread. We managed to quickly kill the dread before the horror could make it back up and peaced out without actually seeing it again

Apparently missions with dreads as the primary don’t have swarms

Unless you trigger them by scanning for legs

At least this is what someone told me today

[west merlin]

Yeah I've known that for ages but this was a secondary dread

Primary morkite

Which the Engy got most of while running away actually

[west merlin]

Genius plan, will keep that in mind. So you fought the dread with 3 characters

[west merlin]

TIL you can trigger swarms by scanning for legs?

I always scan for legs ASAP sometimes even if there are enemies close by 😬

[crimson tinsel]

That’s what I was told

Apparently they just ignored scanning which really isn’t necessary anyway

I just like pretending that I’m finding a helmet when I hear the voice line lol

It’s not like egg hunt levels of swarms and it’s not announced but apparently it draws some bugs

[west merlin]

So it'll spawn some bugs but not a full swarm? Similar to how the eggs which don't give swarms instantly spawn a few bugs

[crimson tinsel]

Yeah but a few bugs on shield disruption or swarmaggedon during an EDD is bad lol

[west merlin]

Good to know

Likewise during a dread fight of course

The Unknown Horror which appears in the Haunted Cave mutation shares the same stats as a normal Bulk Detonator (except health), including its weakness to status effects.

Woah!!! Big if true

I don't think my party had any electrocuting weapons or other status inducers other than stun and freeze sadly

[terse hill]

best overclocks

for this weeks edd as scout?

or doesnt it really matter?

[burnt sandal]

doesn't matter but I would tell you to not pick electrifying reload or Electrocuting focus shots

[terse hill]

is electro in general not that good vs dreads?

or is it the overclocks itself?

[burnt sandal]

not good against dread

[terse hill]

I see, thanks

[leaden cypress]

take the z u c c with embed dets

[terse hill]

yeah I use dets quite a lot, I'm usually not sure about my primary

[broken turtle]

I might be an oddball for this but: Is there any way to access old Deep Dives? There was an EDD in particular I didn't finish like a year back and it's been bothering me ever since because I tried it like 20 times. I would really like to go back and "get revenge" (even though it likely would require rolling back the game to an earlier version to still roll the same mission)

[mellow cove]

Might want to ask modding community if they came up with a way to play certain seeds

[burnt sandal]

yep but don't hope for too much

[crimson tinsel]

I loved Hipster on the M1000 this week

[severe tusk]

I love Hipster every week.

[broken turtle]

Good call, thank you! What I wouldn't go through to settle this old grudge haha

[west merlin]

Dreads are 100% immune to electrocution, both the slowdown and damage.
(Not to Electric-type direct damage from a weapon though)

[mellow cove]

There are at least 4 different types of electrocution, dreads are completely immune only to status effect from weapons

And maybe from bosco

They still get affected by turret arc and IFG

[uncut raptor]

EDD was fun, i hope we get more "oops all dreads!" like that in future

[crimson tinsel]

"oops all escort again!"

[restive patrol]

triple doretta

elite threat + mactera stage 3

[vale lintel]

exploder infestation

and volatile guts

or the ever popular 'oops all point extraction, this dreadnaught is a token of gratitude'

[odd comet]

The way the salvage swarms work is that a large swarm will always spawn a short delay after you initially get close to a mini-mule. A smaller, secondary swarm will spawn after you dig out one of the four legs 'tied' to that mule (there's no way to tell which one)

[vale lintel]

they consistently spawn in a massive cluster right when I connect the last leg to the MULE, but I think that might be timing of me digging all 3 up and then going near it in such quick succession

[restive patrol]

c4 on the broken mule

dig all 3 up and bait them
KABOOOOM

[vale lintel]

they spawn out and about, not on the mule

[restive patrol]

keyword

bait

[celest plover]

The last stage of the EDD is a cunt. We had a leaver so doing it with 3p and with that crappy map was very painful:(

Got half way through the mission before we died

[uncut raptor]

triple escort in magma core will be real next week, just you watch

[lilac apex]

any possible reasons for someone disconnecting not being able to rejoin an EDD?

[west merlin]

Triple PE+Dread with a different hazard each time

[west merlin]

Oh interesting.
Is the large swarm only once not per mini mule? And declared by the announcer guy?

I've never noticed that

Hmm, so if you only dig up 3/4 legs per mule there's a 1/4 chance of not getting the smaller group of spawned enemies 🤔

[west merlin]

Yeah Turret Arc is a different status condition with about the same effects. Pretty sure Bosco electrocution is literally the same though
They're also affected by slowdown from the Breach Cutter including Spinning Death

[odd comet]

The large swarm occurs once per mini-mule, and it's not announced.

And if your team gets close to multiple mini-mules at the same time, you can get multiple large swarms

[west merlin]

They're smaller than the full on announced swarms though right?

[burnt sandal]

yep

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[patent cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-nooo-pleasegodno-the-office-angry-gif-12174751

[opaque widget]

Kill 1 dreadnaught

Haunted cave

[idle elm]

yeah

[wraith shard]

we need to protect doretta!

[unkempt wagon]

@opaque widget had that yesterday

we didn’t have any dwarf go down until then

Then we had all of us go down at least once

[unkempt wagon]

Also, just had the last mission of the deep dive

And we killed the Fred

Dred

And another ducking dreadnaught spawned randomly

[alpine mauve]

lmao, I was doing the deep dive solo, I use my breach cutter just as I exit the pod, and I accidentally hit the dread egg which I didn't even see

that was a fun one

[crimson tinsel]

“TAKE ME BACK UP TAKE ME BACK UP!”

[alpine mauve]

the worst part is that I don't have much experience with haunted cave modifier

so it was a bit of a learning process for me

[crimson tinsel]

It can be a nuisance especially if you don’t have a full team

[mellow cove]

Don't even need a full team, haunted gets significantly easier with player count above 1

[crimson tinsel]

We had three people and just had to communicate on who would lead it

The driller and I killed the Dread quick enough so that it was dead by the time the engie got back up to us

They’re good for making nice tunnels from the starting cave to the ending cave tho

[unkempt wagon]

its annoying because the ghost travels slowly and tunnels, and the dred goes super fast

[alpine mauve]

I imagine scout makes a good ghost bait

[unkempt wagon]

so if you try to train tghem around the corner, the ghost turns around and they pincer you

its useually not a problem because you kill it first

but we were halfway through when they said it was coming

[crimson tinsel]

Scout can move faster, but scout also excels at fighting dreads so someone else should probably be leading the horror

[alpine mauve]

Yeah makes sense

Unless you have more than one scout

[crimson tinsel]

Yeah that too

[vale falcon]

<@&296918282403840000>

[fast fog]

hi. I have a brief issue and need help. I'm on the second mission of the EDD, and am heading towards the droppod. Molly has decided that she wants to stay still forever. What do I do?

[tall meadow]

Dig the ground right underneath molly

The pod will anyways open up in the last 5 seconds anyways as a fail safe when these things happen

[fast fog]

I did that.

[burnt sandal]

just get to the pod then

[fast fog]

Also, I managed to get INTO the droppod as it was leaving. even in a chair.

and I just failed the mission

so I am sad

[burnt sandal]

rip

[tall meadow]

Rip

It’s fine you still in 2nd stage

[vale lintel]

basically you get to defend the pod without its damage resistance until you get a miniscule window to enter

[tall meadow]

Time to redo

[fast fog]

ughhhh

at least this weeks EDD isn't that hard

compared to last weeks

stage one was like impossible

[tall meadow]

I will always remember to remind people of the hardest of them all in the thorn biome just 5 weeks ago

[mossy canyon]

I just soloed the reg deep dive as scout yesterday

[tall meadow]

Reg DD is always simple and fun

Good way to de stress

I’m constantly in haz5 or EDD so the pacing of DD is a good slow change of pace

[leaden cypress]

Until they add 2 escorts on reg DD

[lone lance]

shouldn't molly teleport to the pod with 1 minute left or something?

[burnt sandal]

when there's 15s left

[lone lance]

another happy landing, then

[golden granite]

@worn parrot

[umbral apex]

generally as a driller i kite the dread around, although my movement isn't the best for it i can do damage without needing a line of sight to its weakpoint, and besides driller is pretty crap with single target damage overall

[crimson tinsel]

Driller with Tuned Cooler and Dash can do pretty well

[wraith shard]

Just tried to crush the dread in stage 3 with a resupply

Resupply did no damage despite hitting the dread head-on

And both me and my teammate got downed by the dread

[ancient arrow]

Resupply does half the dreads health

[wraith shard]

For me it did absolutely nothing

[rough kite]

Was the dread indestructable at the time?

Regardless, the one time I tried that trick I was rather disappointed in the power of resupply attacks.

IIRC a resupply did ~1/4 of an EDD stage 1 hiveguard's HP

With only 1 player

[wraith shard]

last dd mission bad

[crimson tinsel]

last dde mission bad

[charred flume]

1st time down there we fought it in the starting room. Bad idea! Finding a bigger room was key in not getting dumpstered...

[wraith shard]

shield disruption

[charred flume]

Level 1 is SD and yeah it sucks

[wraith shard]

dde i mean

[crimson tinsel]

Yeah shield disruption with all of those spiky plants

We fought in the starting room for the DD and as soon as we popped the egg the engie who was leading the horror started running back up the tunnel it dug. We killed the dread before the horror could climb back up and all was right with the world

It was me and a Driller fighting the dread

I was running Hipster scout

[wraith shard]

idk if it had a dread

i mean horror

[crimson tinsel]

Yeah the one with the horror was 200 morkite primary with a dread secondary

[west merlin]

15s? That's stressful

I wonder if anyone has ever lost a mission because they were trying to get a stuck Molly free or something and she teleported but they were too far away

[crimson tinsel]

Molly clips through them and they get downed lol

What a way to end a dive

[west merlin]

Oof!
My team used all our resupplies (like 6) trying to crush it since we had popped the egg in the starting room with no plan for the horror, all of them just missed :(

It was funny seeing them all through the wall like 100 meters away later

[severe tusk]

The EDD wasn't too bad. My group had players who were level 15 and 35 in it.

[crimson tinsel]

We didn’t get downed more than a couple times before stage 3. And even during stage 3, every time someone went down, there was ample time for someone to revive them while the dread focused elsewhere

[severe tusk]

I got pop-up killed by the twins a couple of times during revives. As they do.

[wraith shard]

literally screw this last edd mission

[lone lance]

Black box woes?

My group did not have as big issues with the EDD stage 3 BB as others, but it clearly was because the driller spent a lot of time flattening the terrain, and the engineer plugged as many of the small holes they could.

The prep really paid off.

[wraith shard]

No

[crimson tinsel]

My team finished the DDE the first attempt so it’s not like we had that bad of a time. But the 3rd stage was where most of the downs happened.

[primal iron]

just lost my first solo edd to the drop pod landing in a cavern that wasn't accessible by foot

[dreamy dragon]

Was it the 2nd stage by any chance?

[primal iron]

yep!

I was doing well too.

real stinky.

[dreamy dragon]

Yea it was literally inside a wall

I had to dig to get to the ramp

that with 20 flies behind you

[primal iron]

So I guess I can just try again and bring either a gunner or driller

yep

[dreamy dragon]

molly was stuck as well

so couldnt rush it either

[primal iron]

bosco was good but not 'kill the entire swarm while I drill' good

yep

pain

[dreamy dragon]

was a last second clutch for me ngl. scout engi duo

[primal iron]

lucky

nice

[dreamy dragon]

i think i had to leave him as well 😦

[primal iron]

what happens if you leave someone on a deep dive?

[dreamy dragon]

he tanked while i was digging 🙏

[primal iron]

I've never had to do it

[dreamy dragon]

they'll come with you but with low hp iirc

[primal iron]

that scans

[dreamy dragon]

but yea i was about to lose my 💩 if we had lost it ngl

never seen a totally stuck escape pod before. In bad and high places sure but not like that

[burnt sandal]

a cave not accessible by foot is definitely not something that should happen

are you on steam ?

[primal iron]

I am!

i mean

it would theoretically be accessible by going through a wall

[onyx crypt]

What 2 devices would you switch between classes if you could? A scout with shields? A driller with ziplines?

[old widget]

#drg-chat

[fast fog]

Did EDD solo last night. Happy I got the last gunner OC I really care about right now

I am still fishing for fat boy for engi...

And ANY smg OC for engi...

I love the warthog. BUT I need something that can shoot a bug from far away. The auto rifle is going to be my go to gun forever. But until I get it...

The fact that there are like 5 dreadnoughts though is kinda nuts

Last mission is brutal

[crimson tinsel]

Those damned spiky plants

And barely any red sugar lol

[rigid dove]

EDD really didn't feel that bad solo this week

The worst part was probably dealing with the twins in the last mission just because of where the cocoon was

Made dealing with the arbalest a bit troubling

[wraith shard]

I rarely play solo because Bosco refuses to ping goosacks and bittergems with me, but anytime I do it always surprises me how ridiculously easy the game is compared to MP on the same haz level?? It feels like it drops 2 whole haz levels

[burnt edge]

You can disable bosco. At the bottom left in the bosco upgrade terminal. Rock and stone

[wraith shard]

when do deep dives reset

its tuesday already

[crimson tinsel]

Thursday

Weekly Priority Missions and Core Hunts also change

[thorny geyser]

Fat Boy made last stage EDD black box a breeze.

Well, Fat Boy and LURE

[severe tusk]

We just made a little bunker for the black box and the spawn RNG decided to cooperate with us, so it was a breeze.

[crimson tinsel]

Also ended up in a bunker

The DPS flying through the entrance was insane

A Steeve walked forward to help and got mulched

[hushed sequoia]

the black box made it a breeze for the engineer to get 4 kills with the fat boy

carved out the corner then he dropped a nuke and killed everyone

[tacit jungle]

hehe we made a blackbox bunker and plugged every hole

party inside, rly scary noises outside

[jovial cairn]

bulk det: bonjour

[tacit jungle]

how is bulk detonator a problem just run away lmao

[vale lintel]

elite bulk detonator

[kindred flax]

Imagine Twins showing up to replace a swarm on EDD stage 2.

Couldn't be me. Nope. Didn't fight twins 3 times in a row for this week, at all.

[vale fjord]

i believe the amt of enemies changes and bosco does help somewhat

[normal lynx]

enemy spawns decrease with less dwarves

4 dwarves causes the highest spawns, 3 is less, 2 is the minimum since Bosco counts towards the dwarf count

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[wraith shard]

I don't like you

[crimson tinsel]

[drowsy aspen]

How's the Elite Dive for the week? Doable before the reset tomorrow?

[willow oxide]

Depends on what you care about from the EDD. Me? I’m only in it for the blank core and the overclock. If your more into doing the dive just to complete it and/or get the cosmetic core...

Stage 3 is a nightmare

[drowsy aspen]

I want the blank and two other cores. Don't have all the overclocks yet

[burnt sandal]

doable but the 3rd stage can be nasty so watch out for that

[drowsy aspen]

What's up with Stage 3?

[burnt sandal]

no shields dreadnoughts

the whole EDD is pretty much just about fighting dreadnoughts too

[drowsy aspen]

Spice

[burnt sandal]

you can see the specifics in the pinned messages btw

the first message is edited each week

[drowsy aspen]

Oh okay cool, thanks

[burnt sandal]

so yeah, black box + dread with no shields

in the biozone

spicy indeed

make sure to destroy the cactus in any location you pick for a fight

[drowsy aspen]

So Gunner it is then lol

[burnt sandal]

well having one will certainly help, that"s for sure

[drowsy aspen]

Welp I will give it a go today then

[burnt sandal]

good luck

[lone lance]

Stage 3 Black box was kind of nasty, but with good preparation with driller drilling the shit out of the area, and engineer patching up holes.

[burnt sandal]

the twins near the box was the biggest problem for us

because no good place to fight them

we actually wiped on them once and almost wiped a second time right after beating them on the second try

(the game decided to throw a big wave at us just at the end of the fight while we were all getting up along a zipline ;_; )

[willow oxide]

Don’t enemies with projectiles agro people on zip lines more than usual? There’s a very good chance that it’s just in my head

[drowsy aspen]

Well I know they're designed to counter zipliners, and generally peeps on ziplines dish out consistent and powerful damage, which I think has a major effect on aggro

That's just what I've personally noted

Also, any tips for the Elite Dive in general? I'll probably end up going Gunner or Engineer

[burnt sandal]

yes but what happened is :

We got up on the zipline and the whole wave just happens to be here when we get up there

basically it's like we had run directly into it without a care in the world

[drowsy aspen]

Ouch

[burnt sandal]

yeah

I had no shield left after the fight and got downed instantly lol

[willow oxide]

Yeah that sounds scary even without shield disruption

[burnt sandal]

but yes, ranged enemies aggro easier on you when you are on a zipline

that's by design

[burnt sandal]

nooooot really ? Not anything specific on the top of my head. Just don't waste ammunition, don't waste time with gold (or in general). Don't waste iron will/field medic (you can use them on each stage but keep them for when shit goes down)

don't hesitate to use sweet tooth to replenish your health to avoid the death spiral, especially on shield disruption

[dim path]

Was looking to complete my first edd this week, tried it solo as gunner

[burnt sandal]

don't save your ammo too much either btw

[dim path]

actually did pretty well on stage 1 and 2 and didn’t get downed

but that stage 3 black box,

its something

[drowsy aspen]

Alrighty cool

[dim path]

I imagine it’s not that bad as a team but solo i just get so overwhelmed

[drowsy aspen]

Also nice

[dim path]

though I think the game hated me extra, since I got 2 wardens with 2 oppressors at once

[burnt sandal]

I got that too, funnily enough

we were a team of 3 though

[rapid maple]

Got an awesome team for the EDD and cleared it out first try with 2 gunner 2 engie

[snow river]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/808474237110452234/897867331374567454/troll.gif

this week's deep dive is extra easy

like come on

i almost fell asleep on my keyboard

if a dev sees this, please do like a hazard 6 deep dive next week

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/692794682467418185/895318413294051398/image0-24-1.gif

[stuck swan]

You better not be talking about the elite deep dive

I haven’t even beat it yet

I’ve been trying it as driller a lot though

And I used to struggle with driller vs dreadnoughts

[raven grove]

I beat it first try. Every member of the team had double-digit downs, but we beat it.

[stuck swan]

But it’s clicking for me

Yeah I can’t count how many times me and my team has gotten to the last stage

First stage is def hardest but we always get trapped in a death loop third stage when fighting a dreadnought

[raven grove]

We did 3 engies and a scout. Glorious cheese forts everywhere.

[stuck swan]

I’m only rank 35

Love the game though

Been doing driller and engineer and I plan to start scout or gunner soon too

[raven grove]

I’m at 200 something. I haven’t had a game like this that I could just play and play and play for a while.

[pure hazel]

this EDD the team got over 50 downs altogether

half of them last stage

[severe tusk]

All of my teammates were in the double digits for downs 😛

[pure hazel]

yep

i finally top scored something in the end screen

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[marsh dragon]

this week's elite dive is like

actual hell

[quiet wyvern]

very many Dreadnoughts

[marsh dragon]

i died last stage and i think i'm just gonna wait until the next one

[crimson tinsel]

My team was each only around lvl 100 but we worked together pretty well

Only one person on mic but we seemed to read each other lol

[marsh dragon]

oh i'm fourty something

[crimson tinsel]

Ah okay

[marsh dragon]

idk what's considered high level

[crimson tinsel]

I was Hipster Scout so I had fun once the dreads were out

The swarms on the other hand

Well not swarms but just little dudes every so often

I consider 500+ pretty high

But sometimes I notice the really high level players are harder for me to play with. They’ve been doing it for so long that they have expectations for what everyone else should be doing and if I’m not doing that, they don’t like it. The most toxic players I’ve come across have been higher levels. Haven’t run into anyone unwilling to communicate their expectations during the Deep Dives though.

[wraith shard]

Just finished this week EDD, leaved it for last second cause I was too lazy to do. I will say it was quite easy outside or Arbalest's Fire Shotgun.

[latent heron]

[stuck swan]

Rip

That was my last chance for the elite deep dive

Did it with an engineer who was rank 70

I’m rank 35

We got past the black box but died during the twin dreadnought fight

It was easier than doing it with a full team though

Nitra wasn’t a problem

[wraith shard]

did it just reset

[mellow cove]

No

8 hours before reset

[fringe jay]

is there anybody go to deep dive?

[wraith shard]

oh i am, alone and without bosco, i must suffer

[mellow cove]

Just enable Bosco then

[wraith shard]

need to stock up on energy drinks, ugh i played like such a retard that match

[lone lance]

You got energy drinks? Aluminium shortage cut off my supplies, ugh.

[wraith shard]

Is there a new deep dive yet?

[burnt sandal]

not yet now, in a few hours

[restive patrol]

is there a new deep dive yet

[lone lance]

It was cancelled.

[restive patrol]

delayed to Q1

goddamnit

[burnt sandal]

every time someone ask about new dives, it get delayed ?

[lone lance]

Every time someone asks, an affix are added.

[flat dirge]

When's the new deep dive?

[lone lance]

Devs stopped all development to make new affixes full time.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[scarlet jewel]

dont worry

i can already feel the pain

[lone lance]

Mine 150 dreadnought cocoons

Morkite 0\1 but it's dense biozone.

[sweet pagoda]

hello, how good you gotta be to do your first EDD?

im 70 hours on the game

lvl 27

[scarlet jewel]

you need to promote one of your dwarves and then use said dwarf in a dive

unpromoted dwarves cant be used in dives, but with your first promotion you also get access to tritylite keys which activate machine events, you dont need to be playing as the promoted dwarf to activate them

[sweet pagoda]

ok ty

[lone lance]

Hard to quantify skill, but you should know your class reasonably well, and hold your own in the hazard 4.5+ missions Elite Deep Dives are.

Kind of rude to spend more time downed than standing, and expecting the rest of the group to carry.

So be familiar with higher hazards, but then just go for it, you don't know until you try.

[novel ore]

it honestly depends on the EDD, some are not harder than DDs, some are insane

[sweet pagoda]

I see, thanks for the feedback