deep-dive-discussion

[cunning hamlet]

why does the deep dive lobby list show greyed out parties

[fringe kettle]

because those are missions in progress

[cunning hamlet]

but why show them

you can't join an in progress deep dive

[fresh escarp]

The DD feels so easy compared to the EDD

I did this weeks DD with a MEME build

[cunning hamlet]

which one?

oof, just died to the grunt swarm in stage 3 EDD

kinda sucks when the driller brings flamethrower instead of cryo on a triple dreadnought dive

[drifting chasm]

EDD is hell.

Had a solid team and a few close calls but we did it

Only took like 2 hours

[half hill]

To be honest, DD are hardly ever a challenge

[fresh escarp]

Gunner but bullet hell

Im on xbox no experimental build here

[cunning hamlet]

ha, nice

[lucid trellis]

With magic bullets revolver?

Full bouncy

[copper summit]

This dd was cool

Betc appeared right at the start

[naive bobcat]

not when a detonator spawns near you when u do blackbox solo

[dim gorge]

Oh god, yeah. A bulk during any uplink/fuel cell/escort objectives kinda feels like the game is showing you a big middle finger lol

[copper summit]

Can I redo black box if I fail?

[dim gorge]

If you fail a black box objective it's a mission fail

One of the things MC says is that "we've only got one shot at this" when you do those kind of objectives

[burnt sandal]

IIRC, you can retry if you failed the black box

[dim gorge]

I should test it in regular DD then a bit later...

[obsidian phoenix]

y elite deep dive is so ez not challenging

[formal thorn]

You can retry the black box

Have done it

[dim gorge]

Oh. Well... that is good to know for the future

[wraith shard]

Had a bulk spawn last night during an escort , you already know what happened

[pastel wasp]

dotty got hit but took far less damage than you expected because of the hotfix 6 buff? or you responsibly kited it away from dotty?

[sand coyote]

greenbeard kiting bulk away from doretta VS knowing you won't be able to spend all 3 of the doretta health bars anyway and just let doretta run it over

[grim badge]

Just had trhe worst possible driller, 17 downs

[sand coyote]

Normal

Even experienced drillers tend to down if they don't get to setup properly

[leaden mural]

there was a hacker in my lobby during the edd today 😦

i reported him though

[fringe kettle]

There’s no reporting system or banning system in DRG.

[scarlet jewel]

Steam has a reporting system but it could be better

[untold walrus]

I did my first deep dive last night and was really disappointed in the difficulty

Does it get harder with elite deep dives or more people?

I did it with just one other friend

We were promoted once level 1 and it was kind of a joke

Difficulty 4 missions were harder than it

[odd comet]

Well, yeah

Normal Deep Dive is hazards 3-3.5-3.5

[untold walrus]

Huh, didnt know that

Thanks

[outer canopy]

elite will kick your butt

[odd comet]

Elite Deep Dive is hazards 4.5-5-5.5

[untold walrus]

Does difficulty scale with more people?

Oh shit lmao

5.5??

[odd comet]

Yes

It's mostly bug health that scales, I believe

[untold walrus]

Does it scale in a way that makes it harder or theres just more people and more enemies so it cancels out though?

[odd comet]

And maybe spawn rates

[untold walrus]

ye i figured

probably about the same as normal missions

but ive only played solo or as a pair

wondered if things get insane with 4

when do you unlock elite deep dives btw?

[odd comet]

After you complete a normal Deep Dive

I think

[untold walrus]

oh yeah, just checked and I have access to them

I also see the timer underneath the first one I did

Is there a reason to try and grind your time down other than fun?

*I know theres an achievement for doing one under 45 minutes but aside from that

[outer fiber]

it's everything

health, speed, attack speed, damages, projectiles speed, environment damages, max revive & regen health, pre-spawned static enemies, enemy count

and I'm probably forgetting things

nvm, if you're talking player count, it's "just" damages, count, pre-spawned static enemies & health AFAIK

[cunning zinc]

Can someone please confirm that there is a gold detonator on the second stage of the elite deep dive. I just got killed by a detonator I only saw it for a split second and it looked like a Gold detonator

[outer fiber]

didn't get any det

either they're not related to the seed or they only spawn after a certain amount of players

[cunning zinc]

Like I said I only saw it for a split second because my death was not related to it but my teammates death was

I was just looking to see if anyone could confirm or deny if it was a gold or a regular

[sage seal]

I have never done a deep dive and was curious to see if you can do them again and again

are they repeatable is what I am getting at

[dim gorge]

Yup

[sage seal]

What do you get for doing it again?

more cores?

[outer fiber]

nothing

it's just if you want to have a better time or something

[dim gorge]

Just cash and XP, other than that nothing else

[sage seal]

is there no incentive to do it again?

ohhh

right right

is it a better source of cash and xp than just running normal missions?

[outer fiber]

no

[dim gorge]

This week's DD might be decent for it, but yeah, you'd be better with regular missions for XP and cash, plus you'd be getting minerals

[sage seal]

That makes me sad

I kinda wanted to grind out the deep dives

I hope they make a deep dive endurance system similar to payday's crime spree

I dont even want matrix cores all the time just need more of everything

[dim gorge]

If you could get minerals/cores repeatedly, it'd be extremely easy to just forget about normal missions and just do DD's all the time

[sage seal]

True I see what you are saying however they could implement a weekly cap

in DD

as it is meant to be a harder bit of content

and you could rotate the different minerals week in week out

so you wouldn't completely neglect the normal missions

[paper finch]

well

[sage seal]

Plus you would have assignments

[paper finch]

some do it for personal reasons

like setting records

the deep dive speedrunning channel is a thing

[sage seal]

this is also true

[paper finch]

but there is no in game benefit to grinding them

they're pre set

so they have no machine events

crates

or helmets

so can't farm that either

[sage seal]

Yeah but I do feel like the DD should be grindy though

Aren't they the end game content

[paper finch]

nothing in the game is really

[outer fiber]

no that's the opposite, they made it on purpose so people wouldn't completely abandon normal missions for DDs

[sage seal]

I do understand that, however, as I mentioned above they could make it so you only get core rewards for like a handful of DD plus they could add 2 minerals to the DD on a weekly rotation

this way you won't be able to get cosmetics as they don't spawn and you won't get all the minerals and you won't be able to do assignments

LMK what you think :3

[dim gorge]

That might honestly just overcomplicate it. It's supposed to be an extra challenge that is nice and straightforward. Adding more mechanics and elements will probably make it less of what it is

[sage seal]

Ah okay that's a fair point it would me a bit more complicated

it would be nice to have an endurance style mode though

that motivates high risk high reward

[dim gorge]

EDD is a good challenge then. It starts at hazard 4.5 on 1st stage, hz 5 on 2nd and haz 5.5 on 3rd. Rewards are still cores but getting 3 more per week is not bad at all

[sage seal]

That's fair I will have to give a go at some point soon

[sleek verge]

You can use mods to make longer missions if you're into that. (30 ish eggs, 55 squares, 2000 morkite etc)

[sage seal]

I play the xbox app version so idk if I can mod that

plus I play with people on xbox too

but thankyou for the suggestion

[rose thunder]

Can anyone suggest the best optimal upgrades for the volt smg? Either it really can’t perform as well as the auto shotgun or I don’t know what to put on it.

[old widget]

My recommendation is to search discord history.

This search turned up a few recommendations:

stubby build in:drg-chat

[sleek verge]

Yeah I just responded to them in drg chat, a good rule of thumb is to search in this discord as someone has probably given their recommendation

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[tribal cipher]

took me a few weeks, but completed my first solo deep dive. And then I rode a barrel for around 2 minutes. good session

[lucid trellis]

• you have chances for events

But I haven't come across an event in 2 days

[signal apex]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-pudi-cool-community-abed-gif-8698973

[fresh escarp]

Stfu I blame the gunner with blowthru rounds

[formal thorn]

fully expecting a big dozer week on the reset

[leaden cypress]

6 dozers 😍

[quiet wyvern]

oh god no, i'd just quit like F this i'm out

[sleek verge]

Lmao Ive used like 8 or so blank cores over the weekend, rng is wild

[half hill]

Having 0 blank increases the chance of getting

a mach event

[simple bough]

Yaaay... got a wave during the first dreadnaught on the last mission

And it was hiveguard

so you had hiveguard summoning tanky bugs, on top of the millions of wave bugs

I didn't have enough ammo for all that >:C

[old widget]

Yeah we got swarmed during hiveguard too, then finally clutched through it after two TPKs/IWs, then immediately swarmed again after killing dread. Made some mistakes overall but managed to pull it off.

[quick coyote]

This Weeks deep dives pretty chill imo

[fresh escarp]

Yeah it is. Imma do it tomorrow with my friend tomorrow imo

[narrow drum]

I now see what everyone was talking about with that stage 3 dreadnought fight

brutal

absolutely brutal

[shadow shoal]

yessir

I still need to beat that one

[opal kraken]

I’ve lost it twice- anakin might have had a point about the younglings

[shut hatch]

so edd has two elims huh

[wraith shard]

I didn't have much problem with solo EDD (gunner), I popped the dread first thing on the third stage and killed it just before a swarm popped up

[wicked bridge]

during the hive-guard fight we got a special wave..., it was another hive-guard, managed to finish it but the fight literally took20 min, great fun tho

room had holes everywhere

[sand coyote]

When the last deep dive crew doesn't finish the job

[simple bough]

I usually run with randos, was pretty clear at the end of the second mission we didn't have enough chemistry 😛

I also keep getting pushed into dwarves I don't play as much. I mainly play scout, then engie. Engie's very popular, and I keep getting 1 star scouts with no other classes unlocked.

Now I don't discriminate, I don't kick people for being low level or only having leveled one class... But dayum they can be bad, so bad. I really wish folks would practice just a little more on haz 4-5 missions before hopping onto EDDs

[slender river]

Yeah, unfortunately I play with randomers too on DD/EDD, I seem to only run into bronze 1 star drillers who might as well be an NPC, or an enemy. Failed the EDD 3rd stage twice this week due to their incompetence so I had to run it alone

[dreamy dragon]

highly recommend starting the fight right away no time wasted so you can finish him before the swarm appears

thankfully the cocoon is right in the spawning area

[dim gorge]

Or to wait for the swarm after preparing the place and then do the fight. Luckily you'll get plenty of nitra to resupply

[dreamy dragon]

Depending on how long you need to fight off the swarm, the next one might come too soon

rly just collect all nitra from stage 1 and 2 and rush the boss in 3

otherwise if the cocoon was somewhere far away yea i agree, fighting off a swarm and then starting the fight sounds like a plan

[outer fiber]

that's a trap

[dreamy dragon]

wdym trap

we did it flawlessly

[outer fiber]

the swarm appear sooner at the start of a mission, than after another swarm

I learnt the hard way

[dreamy dragon]

truth be told, swarm started like 5s after the boss died

[dreamy dragon]

🫂

[outer fiber]

huggies

[slender river]

Definitely the safest way to do it

[narrow drum]

Oh we got it done and did it right away, it was just a brutal fight, lots of close calls and almost loses

[raven grove]

Swarm started seconds before we killed the hiveguard, for us.

[raven grove]

I try to do a couple haz5 missions to get limbered up before I start an EDD.

[summer elbow]

I had a mactera swarm mid fight of the dread

Bad times

[wraith shard]

during one of the elimination missions all of the super hard bosses spawned in

a lot of it was running around to find nitra in the middle of a fight

me and my homie had to call in 2 more friends to beat the last one and even then we ran out of ammo and had to call a resupply

we won tho

somehow

[arctic zealot]

is there a source where it shows what the best builds and overclocks for the game are?

[outer fiber]

no

there's a website where people post dozens of builds per weeks

but there is no best

[arctic zealot]

link? ty btw

[outer fiber]

karl.gg

I really wouldn't advice copying any build you find there

the best build is the one that you like

there is a reason why people keep posting builds every day

[leaden cypress]

^ you can use them as inspiration though

& try to understand why karl.gg users' builds are like that & not something else, especially if you see similar builds

[frosty vapor]

the pins not even updated

:[

[fringe kettle]

I don't know what you're referring to, both pinned messages have the current deep dives.

[wraith shard]

🤔

are deep dives in general tough? I cant find any random lobbies since everyone auto kicks cause I dont have 3 stars

[burnt sandal]

they are a bit tougher than normal missions.
If you grow tired of getting kicked, you can try hosting your own or find people in the discord to play with 🙂

[wraith shard]

ah okay fair did eventually find a group after like 3 more tries but will keep that in mind

wasnt sure how to go bout phrasing it in LFG but figured its straightfoward enough

[fresh escarp]

EDD was fun!

I used a total of 19 nukes on stage 3

[celest sluice]

Can confirm

[fresh escarp]

How to kill a hiveguard

Pump it full of radiation

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[leaden cypress]

[gleaming pivot]

hello, could someone explain me please how the deep dive difficulty works? is the level increasing with every step of the dive?

[burnt sandal]

Yep

[mellow cove]

Wait, does it?

[burnt sandal]

Regular Deep Dives are haz 3/3.5/3.5
Elite Deep Dives are 4.5/5/5.5

The difficulty raises up for each stage

[gleaming pivot]

thanks!

[mellow cove]

I thought it's one of the difficulties and it's picked at random

And second stage always feels hardest

[burnt sandal]

and obviously, the random warnings can make things harder (deep dives have a higher chance of warnings)

[gleaming pivot]

yes thats a little bit confusing in the wiki

[burnt sandal]

Glad I could help !

[narrow gorge]

Hey discord I play with my dad on drg he’s player rank 120+ I’m rank 78 we both do the occasional deep dive however he insists we run double gunner even though engie is his strongest class with a silver 2 engie and a 2 bronze gunner I have a 3 bronze gunner is running other classes practical for different roles in a deep dive

[flat dirge]

I mean... They are still the same missions as outside a Deep Dive, just that they have less things to mine and are 3 missions in a row

and generally you can just choose anything you want to play as it's not really too punishing, but you might want to play some class specifically if something is giving you trouble.

[half hill]

Gunner or bust

[naive bobcat]

rank means nothing past bronze 1, it doesn't mean strength

[leaden cypress]

the only thing it means is experience

not skill

[lyric lodge]

Is there any maps that matrix events spawn more common on or is it all random? I haven't had one in an age or a cargo crate >.<

[naive bobcat]

it's a fixed chance to appear iirc

[lyric lodge]

Fair do guess I have just had rotten luck then

Got 2 blank matrix cores and I wanna get some stuff

[naive bobcat]

u can try doing low haz point extraction missions with scout

[burnt sandal]

It's all RNG. Btw, #drg-chat would be the channel for those questions. ^^

[naive bobcat]

sweep the area for machine events, if nothing then leave

[lyric lodge]

Fair do I wasn't sure which chat was right for it

Oh shit I thought that this chat was called drg-discussion lol

[autumn sleet]

,

[quiet wyvern]

gonna attempt to solo the Deep dive real quick before i work today

[dim gorge]

This DD is really easy, EDD can be challenging but it ain't bad. In any case best of luck, miner!

[quiet wyvern]

ty, Rock and stone!

[outer fiber]

a bronze 1 and a legendary 3 have the same "strength", his engi is not his "strongest" class

[uneven summit]

Question - please ping me w/ answer - when you complete a DD or EDD for the matrix cores - does the emblem in the window get filled in?
I have 1 and 2 filled in on EDD but 3 is blank - i think i failed that 3rd mission

[outer fiber]

you answered your own question

no

[raven grove]

I hope we get magma core EDD this time around.

[outer fiber]

no thanks

[raven grove]

Aw, but I love magma core. It’s so spectacular.

[uneven summit]

@outer fiber i answered my own question but im so rock and stoned that i still dont understand.

More simply - completing a STAGE of the DD or EDD fills in the 1, 2 or 3 emblem - signifying that you've completed and earned the reward for that DD stage, right?

[outer fiber]

yes

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[zealous pond]

somehow my whole team disconnected before stage 3 of the DD

then, just as things were going well even solo, a bulk spawned right next to the black box as it was almost done

[quiet wyvern]

Both are done, phew with bout 8 hours to spare, cuttin' in a lil' close too

but me and my pal are done with em' and we'll be regrouping again on Friday to tackle the new ones coming up

[cerulean trellis]

When do the dives refresh?

Oh

[dim gorge]

In a bit over 5 hours now

[narrow gorge]

Well when he has the most experience with over 20+ hours on engie alone and every ox for him I’d say it’s his strongest link

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[narrow gorge]

Rock and stone

[little moth]

someone who's played engi for much longer than the other dwarves will probably be strongest at engi

[outer fiber]

stop using the incorrect term, it's not strength here it's just experience

[leaden cypress]

^

[outer fiber]

Mefy is currently writing a wall

[supple quarry]

Strength / Skill =/= Time invested / Experience
And as you say, it's "probably" the case. You may encounter un-promoted class playing better than Legendary 3 ones

Promotions / blue levels or w/e are just not a solid measurement

[supple quarry]

( Nah I just take hours to write a somewhat decent English message xD )

[outer fiber]

to me his "strength" sounded like the character had more stats or upgrades

not even skills

[supple quarry]

I don't know, maybe a incorrect use of words
Or maybe he was referring to the fact he unlocked much more stuff on his main class and so see it as "stronger"
Just assumptions here

[narrow gorge]

Not everything on the internet has to 100% to your liking people say stuff differently

[supple quarry]

I didn't understand :x

[outer fiber]

look, I know number doesn't mean truth but we're 4 people to tell you you used the incorrect word, it's not about personal preferences / liking here

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[outer fiber]

[leaden cypress]

that first EDD mission already makes me want to die

amazing

[outer fiber]

Muffin working hard

🧁

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Infested Soil
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + Dreadnought Hiveguard | No Mutators!
Stage 2: 200 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Low Gravity Low Oxygen
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 150 Morkite | Regenerative Bugs

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Fragile Pursuit
Stage 1: 10 Aquarq + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen
Stage 2: 225 Morkite + Dreadnought Twins | Rich Atmosphere Elite Threat
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Shield Disruption

Xbox / Win10 will differ with Mutators! The Objectives will be Identical!

[outer fiber]

Salt Pits '-'

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/732992539711242311/834749262419197952/unknown.png

[cursive path]

EDD stage 2 | 225 morkite 1 dreadnought (twins) | Mactera plague+rich atmosphere

[raven grove]

ugh, more dreads

[high garden]

10 aquarks and Low oxygen

Yeah might be skipping this one lmao

[outer fiber]

nono you do it

play scout poggies

[cursive path]

EDD stage 3 | 4 eggs 1 black box | parasites

[supple quarry]

Pff at least there is PE I guess

[outer fiber]

parasites on stage 3, 3 weeks in a row

staged

[short jasper]

will the DDs reset after the update?

[quiet mortar]

It depends on what the Update changes. It could be entirely different or might change nothing.

I personally think it'll only change the Mutators, but don't quote me on that lol

[short jasper]

thanks:D

[formal thorn]

No dozer on EDD will be good

Level 2 dread isn’t bad and level 3 eggs and box will probably be easier than dread with mactera tbh.

[cursive path]

It is easy

I just completed it

[high garden]

Twins are the easiest dreads imo

[cursive path]

Only thing you need to worry about is the two breeders on stage 1 and not breaking the egg on stage 2 before/during the first swarm

[leaden cypress]

nvm that EDD was easy as hell

first stage is a gift

lmao

[high garden]

How bad are the aquarks? First stage is only thing I’m worried about

[leaden cypress]

pretty easy

you can find 3/4 aquarqs in a single corridor

also ton of nitra

We had 400+ at the end of stage 1

[outer fiber]

wut

did you ever fight the 3 dreads on stage 3 to compare ?

[high garden]

Last week?

Yeah

[outer fiber]

last week was just the hiveguard

[high garden]

I can’t remember

Still though

Twins definitely easiest followed by hiveguard imo

[outer fiber]

xD

[tawdry birch]

Nah, Hiveguard is harder than OG due to the adds

Just hoovers up ammo

But Arby and Lacey are easiest

[kind bough]

lol, I feel like I have the opposite opinion, though I guess my ranking is more "annoying to fight" than "difficulty" based

[outer fiber]

maybe because we're scout

the 2 other dreads I can't get touched

but the twins

[kind bough]

twins just like to hide all the time and original recipe likes to pop sick drifts all over the place

hiveguard has some spicy moves but at least he stays in one spot

[high garden]

Are the deep dives the same after the update btw?

[boreal mantle]

no escorts again

[outer fiber]

[quiet mortar]

They are!

As far as I can tell at least

[high garden]

Nice

[covert geode]

the 2nd EDD mission is Elite Threat, no?

[quiet mortar]

Has it changed?

[covert geode]

\o/

just on the 2nd stage now

for me it is elite

[quiet mortar]

Cheer for letting me know!

If Stage 3's has also changed please let me know ❤️

[covert geode]

np :) if the dread random now or do you not know that yet either?

[quiet mortar]

Don't know the type yet lol
I'd play it to find out, but I am awful at Solo EDD

[covert geode]

ah nw, honestly have a meeting at some point soon so not sure if I'll even be able to finish it now but either way I'll check it when I do finish it ^-^

[undone harness]

Anyone up for a deep dive now, Elite or Regular no matter (level 280 dwarf in France i can host with optic fiber)

[lilac root]

eeh maybe

how is this week's EDD?

[undone harness]

Don’t know

I’d say easier than scoot haz 5 without shield

[naive bobcat]

holy

edd stage 2 is cancer

[radiant granite]

twins are the hardest dread entirely due to arbalest's fireball shotgun attack

every other dread attack is short ranged or a fireball that will always miss if you sprint perpendicular to them

what're hiveguard sentinels gonna do, walk at you? just press S

[high garden]

Twins you can shoot in the face though
Just hold left click as gunner lul

[brazen warren]

Hey someone can help me with Experimental Plasma Charger changes?
What is the best mods order and OC for mining nitra/gold now?

[viral tulip]

I wouldn't really change anything other than your OC

22x22 (a or b for t3), Heat Pipe if you can hit the window to not overheat, Energy Rerouting if you can't

[brazen warren]

Ty, can u tell me your mods order?

oh u already said, sorry :3

I dont have Energy Rerouting yet, so I will try with Heat Pipe for now

[radiant granite]

yeah, and you just shoot OG dread in the ass.

[steady ledge]

are the deep dives bugged atm? i just finished the edd and didnt get any rewards from them

[fringe kettle]

pinned messages for FAQ #bug-discussion

[gaunt mason]

EDD #1 is annoying, hate low O2

[gaunt mason]

i just got blank cores from mine

not a big deal for me though, just gotta spend em on other things

[wraith shard]

EDD stage 1 was not bad, but stage 2 took us out with a swarm and Detonator at the same time, didn't even get to crack the dreadnought. A decent team too. Sigh...

[gaunt mason]

oh the egg one?

i had a vanguard in mine, not sure if all the dreads are same each time

[mortal rock]

anyone having trouble opening the game afet the update

[idle warren]

Probably a DX problem

[sleek verge]

they are seeded, yeah

[wraith shard]

Only hard part of EDD stage 2 is the Dread with Swarm. Might wanna wait the swarm out before doing the boss.

Rest is EZ PZ.

[old widget]

One interesting thing we discovered last week though when we had to redo stage 2 - the dreads are the same, but they aren’t pinned to a specific cocoon. Like last week, we got OG dread first both times but from a different cocoon.

(May be common knowledge, but was new to us)

If you know the spawn order it can perhaps help you choose the arena a bit better

Because you can then choose what dread spawns where

[raven grove]

We just fought both in the drop cave. It’s almost always the best place on any map.

[safe shale]

Hey, I was wondering, I got a Mactera Plague in Stage 2 of the DDE, and now it's marked as Elite Threat here. Is that a typo, or is it wrong ?

[old widget]

Are you on Steam version?

Win10 store/console would have different mutators since they’re not on U34 yet

[safe shale]

No, I played the EDD early this afternoon on Steam DRG, it was Mactera Plague, and now I'm playing with friends and it's Elite threat

[rugged basin]

it was mactera plague before the update came out

[simple bough]

Welp, got a swarm during the prae fight second mission

so fun....

[safe shale]

On one hand I feel you, on the other, that's one of the many difficulties of dives, timing. That's simple to say after the war, but you should've wait for the swarm, and then immediatly go for the dread to avoid swarm + dread

[simple bough]

thing is, you can only guess there's a swarm, or stand idle waiting for a swarm so you can have security

[finite vigil]

oh god, that stage 2 on EDD

dreadnought secondary

with elites randomly spawning

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaa-aaaaaaa-shout-yell-rat-gif-14860400

and then there's shield disruption on stage 3..

[astral gyro]

we’re almost got wiped out with dread twin + Elite Tri-Jaw on EDD 2 .... damn tough one 😓

So tanky ....

[inner harness]

yeah edd this week is ouch

[simple bough]

Elite enemies really isn't that fun, and it's subject to some extreme rng

Elite slashers are especially bad.

elite guardians are mild annoyances.

Elite trijaws are almost as bad as slashers.

Elite praetorians are just more beef, but annoying in tight spaces.

[astral gyro]

Ouch Slasher ... that sounds hurt 🤦🏻‍♂️

[simple bough]

Why is it even allowed to exist.

The devs must think we're extreme masochists.

[astral gyro]

I’ve met Elite Menace ... so annoying

[outer fiber]

I like elite enemies because it rewards teams having a good scout

but I don't like their design

[simple bough]

They're even faster than regular enemies so unless you're being targeted hitting the head of an elite slasher is pretty hard.

so you're just left to magdump them with a M1K as scout, hope the engie has hyper propellant, or bulldog dump.

driller... just has to cry.

Because there's not much the driller can do it feels.

Especially with cryo

[astral gyro]

With my friends 2 cryo driller

They still couldnt freeze them ...

🤦🏻‍♂️

[inner harness]

they simply do not freeze

[outer fiber]

nice indirect cryo nerf

[simple bough]

They also completely ignore stuns

[astral gyro]

Yeahh, we’ve learned that tough way 😂

[simple bough]

doesn't even make em flinch...

I like enemy variants, I however, think it's extremely sloppy and lazy to just take the same enemy, give them what's pretty much status immunity, bloat their health pool several times, bloat their damage, and bloat their speed stat.

It also seems like they're more resistant to weakpoint dmg.

[astral gyro]

Stun no effect too!? Ouch ....

I just didnt notice if they resist to weakpoint, or just too tanky

[simple bough]

I wouldn't be surprised if they are.

the devs like to make weakpoint modifiers lower to induce chonk

it's what they did for praetorians

[astral gyro]

Ahh... that’s why they were so tanky. I see ... 😥

[simple bough]

Honestly, I think Ima just sit this EDD out. I'm both literally too tired, and figuratively tired of this one.

At least until they tweak elite enemies.

[marsh drift]

i honestly dont really like the elites

it doesnt require any skill fighting them, u basically have to kite them or what not fighting them. to me they are just bullet sponges and makes weapons like the driller's cryo all but useless

[inland sandal]

are elites just harder orrr ?

[marsh drift]

you cant freeze em, incredibly tanky to take out, and they deal shit ton of dmg

at least give them freeze resistant but not completely immune to freeze which is really kinda dumb

[inland sandal]

How is that dumb?

[marsh drift]

the driller's weapon purpose is to? tell me again?

[inland sandal]

Super ez with freeze cannon otherwise

[marsh drift]

and if its pointless then what, hell, even dreadnought can be frozen

and they are bosses

freeze but a very fast unfreeze rate, that would make them less dumb

[tender umbra]

I don't really mind the elite enemies, but they absolutely need to tone down the freeze resistance

If I'm using cryo I just disengage from them entirely and leave my team to defeat them

EDD was truly terrible this week. I've tried 3 times in a row and can't beat the dreadnoughts on the second mission. The map is too tight for the dreadnought battle, and the swarms are coming too quickly to kill the DN in time. If swarms were turned off during a dreadnought fight, it wouldn't be so bad

[short charm]

Noticed that too, they are basically unfreezable. Kind of sucks, altho they arent as bad as they used to be, the enemies. They seem to have toned them down a bit to a reasonable level.

I dont get the freeze resistance though, at least make them similar to oppressors and Bulks in that regard. Make them freeze for like half a second to a second, reward our good timing.

With that said, heyyyoooo. Proud of this one. Had to pop my Iron Will on stage 2 because I got a 5-fireball volley to the face at point blank, then kite the hell out of a wave and the dreads in the very last room until I was able to revive, and revive, and revive... https://i.imgur.com/wX1wKUB.jpg

I will say, the buffed cryo minelets for the Zhuks is seriously nice. Used to be that each shot only had a 70% chance to spawn a mine, now its 100%. You can reliably freeze just about anything without having to waste cryo grenades.

[viral tulip]

Elites are particularly un-interactive for driller which is a bit of a bummer

And yeah, Cryo Minelets fun

[leaden cypress]

Elite slasher truly is nightmare fuel for drillers

ngl

[arctic zealot]

still kinda new player, do you get any rewards for the blue level up?

[leaden cypress]

blue level up ?

you mean player rank ?

You can get assignments to unlock pickaxe & armor cosmetics

till lvl 100

afterwards there is no particular rewards

[drowsy summit]

so

anyone else not able to clear this week's EDD?

[cunning zinc]

Can anyone confirm for me what the three stages of the elite deep dive are this week. Me and a friend are about to go do it and I kind of want to know what I'm getting myself into

[drowsy summit]

aquarqs / morkite, morkite/twins, eggs/black box

[cunning zinc]

And the modifiers?

[sinful wasp]

Its always listed in the stickies

[sinful wasp]

#deep-dive-discussion message

[cunning zinc]

Ok thank you

[sinful wasp]

not to bad this week tho, pretty fun with the elite enemies

[unreal matrix]

https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2021/games/general-games/independent-creator go voted deep rock gogogo

[warm light]

an EDD with a guaranteed swarm during a twin dreadnought fight in high oxyogen with small rooms

This is sickening

[finite vigil]

huh

that EDD was easier than I expected

stage 2 was nearly a disaster

we got a swarm in one of the tight tunnels

2 wardens at the same time

elite guard

and elite prae

3 of my teammates down and I managed to take care of the rest of the swarm

[half hill]

Since the birth of Deep Dive
Secondary dread don't stop swarm
Everyone
Still didn't learn

[warm light]

Seriously, whoever chose stage 2 is a cunt

That makes 5 EDDs where the guaranteed swarm wipes the team

[fringe kettle]

RNGesus

[warm light]

It's at least a 90% chance to get a swarm during the fight

[half hill]

wait the swarm,

[hazy comet]

on mining missions the first swarm usually appears around 5 mins

just wait it out if you cant handle it

[raven grove]

Last EDD we popped the hiveguard immediately

Managed to kill it right as the swarm started

[feral atlas]

EDD stage 2 was pretty fun

random dread wave, then we pop the twins and a bulk and a swarm show up

bulk kills 1 twin, and we zoom around and kill the 2nd

[sleek verge]

Yeah that was a good time, gonna try for a faster time later if I can get this project wrapped up

[warm light]

alright

so I may have exagurated a bit

3/4 attempts at stage 2 had a wave spawn during the fight

attempt 4, we drilled directly to the egg and did it immediately

stage 3 was like management came down to blow me

[feral atlas]

thing is with rich atmosphere, you are untouchable if you move properly

swarm or no swarm, you move faster than the attack animations of most bugs

[bitter python]

Finished our second attempt. After we were pushed to a standstill on our first one, we decided to do all gunners. First mission took slightly longer but hanging from a zip line beats this dive. Hardly any flying enemies so zip line strat works (still keep an eye out). Second mission we retreated to the open area before dread egg and killed the twins there. Same with third mission and just rotated shields on the black box.

You could probably bring a cryo driller but, IMO, I’d advise not bringing an engineer or scout to this one. Not many times they’re specifically useful.

[warm light]

I'll have you know I laid on the smack down as a scout

[bitter python]

I mean mechanically there’s no specific need for the scouts grappling gun aside from making the first mission go a bit faster

[warm light]

There were several points during the second mission where half the team was dead and I was bouncing between walls killing enemies in the extremely few seconds I had

[bitter python]

That was me in my first attempt ( although I was spec’d for crowd control instead of damage). We might’ve been able to get that one but the engine’s turret shot the egg open trying to shoot an enemy. After that it was over.

[warm light]

That sucks hard

[bitter python]

Yea :/ but I’m so glad it’s done with and over.

[warm light]

same here

[wraith shard]

That black box in the final EDD mission is fucking bullshit

[snow steppe]

Scout+engi is pretty useful for finishing the first mission fast with all the nitra

[short charm]

Posting this again for BB to see. Not bringing a Scout? Pfffft! I had 2.5s cool down on the grapple and all this mobility was key when all 3 teammates were down during the dread fight. https://i.imgur.com/wX1wKUB.jpg

The twins is probably one of the best additions made to the game lately. They put up a very good fight and all their attacks pack a decent punch. So you simply can't allow yourself to get hit.

[outer fiber]

this edd is excellent for scouts with aquarq, low O2, elites and dread

good carrying potential

[short charm]

Pretty much. Easy life, except for that second stage. I went GK2 + BoM, Zhukovs + the buffed Cryo Minelets to try them out + Cryo grenade. Worked great. Kinda wish I had more firepower for the dreads, but for EDDs you have to make compromises.

[outer fiber]

ah well I play emb

since I min max

& m1000

I kinda minimised my swarm clear potential to focus on big targets

[short charm]

Im gonna try those next, now that the base gun has 50 more ammo embedded dets are better than ever.

No wait, you always take the ammo upgrade to end up with 450 ammo, nvm, its the same.

[outer fiber]

yeah you just have more precision since spread was reduced

but it's a huge difference to me lmao

hate wasting ammos

[short charm]

I think thats great, I always take that anyways since I mainly run the cryo mines and gas recycling on these, the spread reduction is a must have.

[outer fiber]

gas recycling poggers

I need to test it and the mines but I don't want to lose my OPness against big targets

[short charm]

The mines are excellent for big targets though. WIth blowthrough, when you shoot at menace, spitballers, brood nexus, wardens etc, the mines are deployed in chunks on the ground under them, freezing them right away. Finish them with the primary. And with the recent buff, a mag dump is enough to freeze praetorians etc. I love them.

Gas Recycling was meant for blowthrough and IFG grenades to clear out trash and deal with swarmers, thats my main use. Can be used to burst down big targets too, but with EFS on the M1000 now no longer a decent option, I may have to move away from gas recycling and re-think my loadout.

[outer fiber]

true, I might try that

[short charm]

Takes some getting used to but they give the Scout some nice CC options.

[outer fiber]

I believe cryo mines do lose the advantage on some more niche targets like dreads and bulks though, unlike emb

how do cryo mines freeze the elites?

actually the combo zhuk/gk2 is sadge since you no longer have fall damage mitigation like hoverclock or special powder

[short charm]

Elites neither freeze nor catch on fire as far as I know. And yes the cryo mines arent great for dreads and such, so you do make some compromises. Just like you do with detonators, very limited ammo and not great for trash, but extremely powerful vs big targets.

I havent used the new detonators much, but will try them more later on. I have been very happy with jumbo shells + double trigger as a good alternative for burst damage in other builds, so the emb dets have been on the backburner for some time.

As for lacking hoverclock and special powder, I typically take hoverboots on every build that lacks those two OCs.

[buoyant wing]

even disregarding the ridiculous total damage, it lets you pull off some nutty stuff with some invincibility phase enemies

highly recommend sometime

[outer fiber]

wdym

[buoyant wing]

because the damage all comes at once you can just blitz through some hp thresholds compared to trying to shoot more bullets in

the only thing it doesn't seem to work well on at all is the OG dread

[outer fiber]

ah

[buoyant wing]

for that sort of "bypassing"

i.e. turning korloks into a 2-phase fight instead of a 3

[outer fiber]

ah, that

poggies

[short charm]

Can you still shoot all bullet sbut 1, wait for born ready to reload, then shoot some more into targets, let them accumulate detonators?

Ive seen some videos where people do that and OHKO dreads and other bosses by abusing the born ready mechanic.

I dont see anything about it in the patch notes, so Im assuming you can stil do this.

[outer fiber]

I never tried that but I will tell you when I will

I wonder if the emb death icon appear with that trick

or if you have to calculate the amount of mag you empty on the dread to one shot it

[short charm]

I dont know, never tried it. Either way, Im sure your teammates will like it when the health bar drops by 60% all of a sudden.

[outer fiber]

ikr

[dim gorge]

Man... last week's DD was easy but this week... Well, nothing to complain, basically free cores and XP is always nice, haha

[formal thorn]

Yeah the DD was cake

[dim gorge]

Now I just gotta do an EDD. I feel like it's gonna be the 2nd stage to cause most troubles but otherwise it's looking fine

[leaden cypress]

Deal with the dread fast in stage 2 and it's all good

[formal thorn]

Or wait 5min for the first wave p sure.

[outer fiber]

yeah wait after the wave

[outer fiber]

yes, it works

[dim gorge]

LMFAO on the first EDD try we basically got wiped by a Bulk. But not by its attacks... It dug underneath us and killed 3/4 of us with fall damage xD

[outer fiber]

you can open your map to see where it digs

[dim gorge]

True, but it happened before we managed to check as it was during the swarm, haha

I still find it more funny than annoying

[formal thorn]

on the DD the dread portion the egg is right outside the pod, for anyone who gets freaked out by sub H4 dreads.

forgot to note that earlier

if you shoot forward without checking you're liable to start the fight, as we did XD

[bitter python]

I would normally agree but the placement of the Aqua in this EDD aren't in spots that are only accessible by Engi-Scout. There's one spot of morkite that needs that combo for easy access but we ended up having enough without getting to it.

[bitter python]

I don't believe I ever said it wasn't possible with a scout or engie, just that it's easier without them. Our first attempt had a diverse set of classes and we had the "all but one down" instance twice, the second one being fatal. As a full team of gunners doing ziplines, we rarely had 2 people down at the same time (Once during the dread fight and once in mission 3 because of bad zipline placement).

[keen raptor]

does the elite menace always spawn EDD stage 2 or did i just get unlucky lol

[slender river]

Try having an elite menace followed by an elite bulk lol

[keen raptor]

lmao sounds fun

i had 2 elite praes while i was fighting the twins lmao

[slender river]

Survived?

[keen raptor]

yeah im goated

lol

it was pretty damn tough though i had to proper sweat

[slender river]

Fair play, it was the same for us haha
Ngl, I kinda like the new elites being added. All I'm seeing are people whining about them, yet it makes a nice change to just having drillers insta killing everything. Imposes an actual challenge compared to the "bosses" as the elites can't be cheesed with cryo.

[keen raptor]

yeah thats true

i like how its enough of a challenge to be tough but not ridiculously op

[slender river]

Yeah, I understand people being annoyed of their sponge potential, but crying over its elemental resistances is laughable, which imo should of occurred with the bosses in the first place.
I'm all for the new content, personally I'm interested in new enemies, particularly those that can afflict environmental damage. While the elites do not quite do that, I do believe it is a step in the right direction. That's just my two cents but what do I know lol

[raven grove]

Yeah, if the big stuff was resistant to things like sticky flames and freezing people would favor straight damage builds whenever the big stuff might be present.

Oh wait, that’s how it already is with dreads, and it sucks.

[slender river]

Yeah, driller, makes sense.

[raven grove]

Would you like ice storm, ice spear, or facemelter for every EDD? Because those are your options.

And prior to this patch it was only the first two.

[slender river]

Well they aren't my options per se.

And I'm not quite sure what you're complaining about.
Is it the problem with the overclocks?

Or is that the EDD actually requires stronger builds over weak ones?

Because if so I could tell you 95% of the scout overclocks which are utter garbage in handling an EDD, and we'd just be going round in circles.

[viral tulip]

With a coordinated team + good burst options PTC/TC is also really solid against dreads

But you really want people who are cognizant enough to be ready to unload on it the second it freezes

[raven grove]

The problem is excessive resistance causing limited options.

[odd rover]

Why wouldn't I just run a sticky flame or freeze build and let teammates kill dreads?

[viral tulip]

But I do agree that they've made dreads frustratingly un-interactive for drillers outside of very specific builds

Dreads resist sticky fuel slowdown

[slender river]

Because its either drillers insta kill everything or the game is wack.
I kid, but I see too many fools complaining in just this manner.

[raven grove]

Yeah sticky is basically useless for dreads.

[slender river]

Exhibit A.
Do you play any other class, it is the exact same for them too.
Imagine certain classes being weaker than others facing certain enemies
Would you prefer just grunt swarms, as having harder enemies generally means better defensive measures, aka resistances.

[raven grove]

I liked how it was before the dread buffs, where staying in a dread’s face and slowing it down was viable.

[viral tulip]

Like, I'm fine with driller having weaknesses and that's healthy for the game, I just don't think those weaknesses should be an entire primary objective type

[slender river]

Can we not have any grunts shoot from ceilings anymore as my engineer shotgun can't reach them.

[odd rover]

Elim changes the builds you use for all classes, though.

[raven grove]

I use the same gunner for everything. Good old bullet laser.

[odd rover]

Yeah, but you'll struggle to run run carpet bomber, neurotox payload, etc.

[raven grove]

Same with scout, though focus there is more on not dying.

[slender river]

File your complaints with the driller Vs dreads next to Scouts vs swarmers

[odd rover]

These classes just have very good single target damage on their best builds.

[raven grove]

I actually quit running driller entirely for eliminations for a while. Was just pointless.

[slender river]

It is what it is, your class is better/weaker than others at certain objectives.

[raven grove]

Yeah, an entire mission type. Good times.

[slender river]

I.E
I actually quit running driller scout entirely for eliminations On-site Refining for a while. Was just pointless.

[slender river]

Welcome to the game

[viral tulip]

Scout OSR is pretty fun

[slender river]

Oh for sure, but time wise with completing the objective it can take a while depending on the map.

So Cortex, going back to your initial complaint, what would you do instead, remove enemies having elemental resistances?

[raven grove]

Yes, largely. But the Frozen status is terribly OP and would need nerfed alongside that.

[slender river]

That's wack, sorry but that sounds like 5 steps backwards in keeping the game evolving, might as well go back to last summer.
But fair enough acknowledging Drillers frozen build being utterly broken.

[raven grove]

Last summer is when I fell in love with this game, so sounds fine to me, heh!

[slender river]

Fair enough mate

[formal thorn]

Can't you just freeze the dread and let engineer hypro it?

does nobody else do that?

[old widget]

Ice storm build for driller works quite well for elim, I’ve found.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f0XTGcwnO6g is a good rundown

only downside is, waves die too fast to cryo-vamp-drill

[viral tulip]

I do, but you need a heads-up engi or voice chat for that to be reliable

Most pugs just aren't that on top of things

[formal thorn]

yeah that is true. I wouldn't do a dread with randos over H3 tbh.

[viral tulip]

Also running HP for an entire EDD may not be your engi's preference

[hollow summit]

had some amazingly bad luck in the second stage
got swarmed twice during the Twins fight
once by praetorians, then a second mactera swarm, all while the twins were screwing our shit up

and of course it was elite hazard, so like, half the praetorians were elite and the same with the mactera

we had 3 iron wills between us and despite careful use we still got absolutely shattered, totally unable to handle it

second try we had much less bad luck, fortunately. the two drillers switched to cryo and while it wasn't any good for elites it was great for the twins

one of the drillers got friendly fired like... 9 times

[viscid fractal]

i'm just gonna wait till mods are back up and go back to my 400 bug enemy swarms with my driller's crazy flamethrower

i only started modding after 1600 hrs and i've seen the light, lol, vanilla really needs to increase the bug cap waaaay past what it is now instead of adding bullet sponges which are just borrrrrring

[hollow summit]

I think elites need dedicated extra abilities because right now they're just... boring

[dim gorge]

Well, tried an EDD again and we did it! Shellbacks were our arch nemesis lol

Also managed to kill dreads on stage 2 just as we got a swarm incoming, haha

[quiet wyvern]

if you have someone with armor breaking like gunner for an example, he can not only focus crowds and big enemies but can more easily deal with the shellbacks, as you'll deal more dmg. to them then you would have previously

imo at least

[dim gorge]

I ran BB Autocannon with AB mod, so they died quickly, but still managed to cause us trouble, haha

They're either slow as snails or full on Sonic mode lol

[quiet wyvern]

as long as someone can help against those things in a better way, it'll be easier

[dim gorge]

But yeah, the best strategy for stage 2 seems to be to drill/dig a tunnel straight to cocoon from that one room before cocoon room, wait and deal with the swarm and start the fight

[merry monolith]

I managed to finish the twins fight without dying as scout in the same room, but yeah its a bit cramped

Also idk about anyone else but I didn't have to use any resupplies on the first level

but got enough nitra for nearly 4

whast up with that

[viscid fractal]

well the bug cap is i believe only 60 in vanilla, so yeah it's a ghost town

[merry monolith]

yeah well, if I could get people to join my EDDs and just leave immediately so I could do them with 4p scaling, I would

[lunar arrow]

Guys is there anywhere with alot of room on the EDD? I'm finding it way too cramped to do anything really

[raven grove]

I haven’t dropped into this one yet, but is the drop chamber not open?

[lunar arrow]

not really

not as much as usual

[raven grove]

Interesting, I’ll have keep that in mind when I do it.

[leaden cypress]

first stage has a ton of space on the first room

stage 2's dread room is kinda big too

on stage 3 there is a room on the right with 4/5 eggs

if you go forward you can find a spot near a tunnel which is big enough to handle swarms

[lunar arrow]

thx

[dim gorge]

Stage one is PE, so it's very open already. Stage two is cramped, but I'd say your best bet is the 2nd(?) room, the one before cocoon room. Stage three was already described by Saint

[unkempt belfry]

oof. that DN spawn

edd stg 2

[elfin falcon]

Did the regular deep dive today with a greenbeard I added a few days ago, he just promoted the other day. Told me he'd tried going solo but had to stop after S1. The balls on this guy

He wanted to do the edd straight after but I was too tired plus I'd already done it so I thought we'd do a Haz 5 map instead, which we got through without a single down

Fuck I kinda wanna do the edd with him now and see if we can make it

[elfin falcon]

Yea we brought them to the room before, like people said above

[cunning hamlet]

I hate elites

[cunning hamlet]

oh god we barely passed the EDD

[formal thorn]

EDD not bad

Best it with randoms and I messed up super bad

Like so bad

And we came back

They are the real MVPs

[sleek verge]

got it done solo, got a ton of ntira in the first stage and just speedran the last two

pretty chill

[viral cargo]

first time I've managed a true 1st try EDD with randos

it was so casual nobody stayed for beers and dancing .__.

despite the absolute clutchest DN fight because someone forgot/didnt hear the mactera swarm warning about 5 secs before they popped the egg lol

[burnt sandal]

that's not very rock and stone
GG on the win anyway

[viral cargo]

I killed the entire 1st wave with one breach cutter shot as they came through the little tunnel into the room before the DN room and managed a 2/3-man res amidst mactera swarm and twins and I dont know how

good fun

[viral cargo]

Danke danke

[wraith shard]

During an EDD I just got a visit from the police who was looking for a suspect. The pure adrenaline rush the visit caused was enough to make it through the EDD cause everything then looked so slow it was hilarious.

But my hands are shaking now.

[echo iris]

what warnings or anomalies are in the regular deep dive?

[fresh escarp]

@echo iris

[echo iris]

thanks

[sage seal]

OMG my game just crashed right at the end of a DD

I had about 1800 gold too

[thorny geyser]

EDD had some qronar instant deaths

armor break is love

[fresh escarp]

Damn ive had that happen before

[cerulean obsidian]

Hah, we used the bulk to kill the twins in the 2nd edd mission 😄

[wraith shard]

Did not think that was possible.

But good.

[leaden jolt]

whast the diffrence b/w edd and dd?

iv done both but have noticed much of a difference

besides the map and obj ofc

[viral tulip]

DD is haz 3/3.5/3.5, EDD is 4.5/5/5.5

[cerulean obsidian]

Happy accident more than anything. It was walking right by egg, we popped egg, and bulk blew right as the twins spawned in. Corporate signaled a kill.

[copper summit]

what the hell is with my luck

4 bulks on 1 stage

[undone pine]

Any pointers for the second stage on the EDD. My team got run over

[dim gorge]

I'd say your best bet is to fight a dreadnought in the 2nd(?) room, the one before cocoon. Have Driller dig a tunnel from it straight to an egg, fight the first swarm, resupply and start the fight. Should kill or nearly kill the dreads by the time the next swarm comes. Rest is just morkite

[undone pine]

I'll try that. We fought the dread on his room, but was a little awkward

[dim gorge]

Yeah, the actual dread room is really cramped and prepping it might take a bit too much time...

[copper summit]

fight dread right after the swarm

oh wait everything is told already

anyway, I completed my 1st edd with a driller

he had cryocannon, I had big bertha autocannon

[kindred creek]

Anybody else die in the last room of the EDD because the cave leech dropped them on top of the sleeping Charge Sucker?

[dim gorge]

Elite warnings are probably gonna be/already are some of the toughest, not just in deep dives but normal missions as well

[copper summit]

Driller carefully avoided entering the main room and drilled thru the walls to get the eggs

We avoided betc and everything else

[sand coyote]

Being careful take too long

Just run for your lives

[wraith shard]

Take the "Dash" perk. Will save your life many times.

[warm light]

Only to cryo drillers and other status effect dependent builds

[wraith shard]

Elite Glyphid Menace or a Elite Mactera Trijaw can really dish out some pain.

[coarse geyser]

bulk to kill elite menace :))) good times

[shut hatch]

elite praets are so annoying

[thorny geyser]

they arent that bad, second or two of focus fire will take them really low

Armor break might be useful though

so that everyone can focus them

[high creek]

Elite enemies seem pretty easy tbh

Only really seems punishing if you really go full on AOE

Kinda boring design though, mostly just bullet sponges

[inner garnet]

hey, Ive come to cry about the second mission of this EDD kicking my ass 😢

hold me...

[copper summit]

wow

I didnt speedrun, but I did this dd in less than 40 minutes

on the 1st try

[cerulean obsidian]

Stage 2 seems to require a sacrificial team wipe to learn all the hazards. 😉

[fallen axle]

Hi all! I don't know where to write about this. Game became worst because of cheaters. Two EDD and random teammates with unlimited ammo and zero skill. And we failed because they don't know how to play. Call supplies when they don't needed, pop dreads egg, do not communicate with others. What happened? Only i suffer from this?)

[dim gorge]

Never encountered cheaters myself. Did see a few greenbeards who tried to play co-op as solo but no cheaters...

[steep beacon]

havn't seen a cheater in a long long time, and everyone i did see was beyond kind. I would say roll the dice again

sometimes you just get a few bad eggs in a row

[fallen axle]

Looks like i got my jackpot today 😆 will try later.

[steep beacon]

rock solid!

[fringe kettle]

if only there was some way to kick people from your lobby

[simple bough]

Worst is when you realise elite warning is only a small reward increase 😛

Guess we just need to force every engie to run hyper proppelant now...

[spice timber]

In all honesty, not intending to bloat, y'all overhyped stage 2 edd. Rich atmosphere makes it easy to avoid elites till you soaked enough. Plenty of nitra to make it happen from stage 1, even when your dumbass starts dread after a million years of no swarm, to have it happen 10 sec later

[wraith shard]

A Huuli Hoarder was not impressed by that overclock. I did not deal any damage and wasted all ammo on it. Dunno if that was a bug though.

[sour cosmos]

My stage 2 wouldnt have been so bad if we didnt get an elite dread in a narrow tunnel, we somehow survived then the bulk poped the dead egg and spawned the twins. We SOMEHOW made it out, but not before another elite bulk

First one is elite bulk, oops I want thinking about what I was typing

[spice timber]

You see theres the problem. "we". go solo, less spawns = less elite bulks = win.

[simple bough]

@sour cosmos wut, elite dreads exist?

that just seems dumb

an elite, elite, elite enemy?

[sour cosmos]

They dont exist, I corrected myself saying was a bulk

[simple bough]

Elite bulk still sounds dumb

they have so much HP already.

[dim gorge]

Elite dreads don't exist (at least yet) as it'd be way too much

[simple bough]

A couple elites right now are already extremely obnoxious

like elite slashers when you don't have any modifiers to help against them. you either notice them in time, or have a really good weapon for DPS/weakpoint to kill it before it kills you.

Ofc dash helps.

[waxen verge]

elite bulks don't get hp, just speed and deadliness afaik

[shadow shoal]

Bigger boom

[simple bough]

Speed alone is P awful

[odd comet]

Don't forget the resistance to freezing

[viral tulip]

Speed alone is great

Elite bulks are the best elites by far

[robust pollen]

Elite grabbers are terrifying

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[cerulean trellis]

I've had more engis leave than any other class

[jaunty flower]

for anyone who hasnt done it, dives are both doable in <30. EDD twins fight can be a bother as the room they're in sucks, but pull them back if you need to and its fine

[arctic zealot]

i know most builds are preference but which grenade is the best for gunner?

[jaunty flower]

depends on the rest of your loadout but you cant go wrong with a cluster

[shadow shoal]

Cluster is nice as an all rounder, I like sticky for dreads

fire is meh

[cerulean trellis]

Fire is only if your build has no good answer to swarmers

Or if there's some really good chokes

[mint zodiac]

Cluster has the most kill potential

[ionic marsh]

siiiigh, i've failed the DD 4 times today

[lusty barn]

Uh, swarm + dread on second stage of edd was brutal

[shadow shoal]

ye

[rich carbon]

yep

so hard

4 dread is very hard to kill and elit and swarm...

I don't understand how they multiplied so suddenly

the task only wanted two

[worldly oracle]

was there a dread swarm?

as since it's a secondary a swarm can spawn during the dread fight

and that swarm could be a dread swarm

[lusty barn]

I think it's just timed

when you have morkite + dread this happens

happened last week too

or the week before

[dim gorge]

Iirc they come at intervals. First comes at about 5 minutes time. So if you get a swarm during dreadnought fight, you've probably either didn't do it fast enough or started late

So your best bet is to wait for a swarm, clear it, resupply and start a fight so you have more time before the next swarm

[keen raptor]

yeah i had it where a swarm came, i killed it, then found the dread room and thought it hadnt been too long.
started the fight, got both twins to ~50% hp, then i hear damned mission control
"time to earn your paychecks team, a doozy of a swarm on the way"

[raven grove]

Yeah I’d prefer if it either always or never had a swarm. A specific elimination mission type that always has a swarm could be really neat.

[warm light]

A guaranteed way to avoid fighting them during a swarm is to just drill down from the spawn room to the egg

they teleport instead of walking, so you can get them back to the spawn easily.

[raven grove]

Spawn room is big enough for swarms to spawn inside, no?

[warm light]

It is

The issue here is fighting the swarm during the boss fight, which wipes 99% of teams.

The idea is to get the dreadnoughts out of the way so you can focus on the swarms instead of constantly worrying about swarms during the dreadnought fight.

If you don't completely fuck up the fight and make them heal, you can easily kill then in under 5 minutes.

You should have enough nitra from stage 1 for a pod, which is all you might need for the fight.

[robust sedge]

lol this week's EDD, the last stage, is kinda rough

Grunt swarm spam while fighting twins in small areas

elite menaces and preatorians galore xD

[shadow shoal]

Second to last stage?

[raven grove]

Should I even bother taking driller on this EDD? Sounds like I can’t freeze these things and crispr will just run out of ammo.

[glossy wolf]

does an Elite Deep Dive have better chances at better cores or is it the same?

[raven grove]

Define better? Game has no concept of better and worse cores.

[glossy wolf]

ahhh i meant as in corrupted cores

cause trying to aim for engies GL corrupted mods

[raven grove]

What’s a corrupted core?

[shadow shoal]

I’m assuming unstable?

[raven grove]

Possibly?

[glossy wolf]

ahh yeah

too much warframe

old habits

[shadow shoal]

No changed chances of certain cores in either dd

[raven grove]

As far as I’m aware, the game makes no distinction between overclock types.

[supple quarry]

Nope, weekly core assignments / Deep Dive / Elite Deep Dives all share the same RNG pool of loot

[raven grove]

Yep, 3 blank core, 3 weapon overclocks, 3 cosmetics, and a forge overclock for every 5 you forge.

[mental venture]

is it possible to blacklist someone? I just played an EDD with a really toxic player, constantly disparaging their teammates

[shadow shoal]

I don’t think so. In this discord, or in pubs?

[mental venture]

in pubs. I'd not like to play with this player again if I can help it

[shadow shoal]

Best you can do from what I know is just leave if you see them again

[old widget]

you can also block them on steam, but that won't really do much for DRG

[old widget]

yep this is a great technique for stage 2, dig down to egg and mine a bit until first swarm, take swarm in entry room, then send scout down to pop egg and grapple back

we managed to avoid twins + swarm by about 30 seconds with this method

not quite guaranteed, but if you have a clean twins fight it's good way to manipulate the spawn timer

we had zero curveballs on this EDD, RNGesus was kind today. no bulks, elites were manageable, all vanilla swarm types. was almost disappointing

[kindred creek]

When does weekly rotation occur? Afk right now so I can't check

[burnt sandal]

every thursday, 1PM CET

[kindred creek]

Thanks!

[grim bronze]

add double hazards to elite dives or riot

big gold money dolla dolla

[old widget]

Do deep dives award XP for mined gold/nitra (and minerals from random hoarders)?

I just realized today that the mission end screen only shows itemized XP for primary and secondary objectives. No line item XP for minerals even when we killed a hoarder.

[keen willow]

yeah you get to keep any XP, credits, and minerals from hoarders even after you get the cores.

https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Dives#Rewards

[wraith shard]

Retried solo EDD with neurotoxin payload + micro flechettes gunner and did surprisingly well, twins died right before the next swarm. 0 deaths too

anyone can give me recommendation or some builds or videos, what should i use for primary and secondary in scout class ? i want play all stages like DD and Elite DD

[trail bone]

This week’s second stage EDD felt like hell

Even with the invun after revive, everyone still went down a second after reviving

On the third attempt, the last guy alive was faced with the twins, a swarm, and a bulk

[dim gorge]

Yeah, the second stage is tricky. You gotta time dread summon right and kill them quickly or else you're getting overwhelmed

[trail bone]

ah well, there's always next week

[brisk pagoda]

i just pulled the twins back to the previous room right after finishing a swarm

[elfin falcon]

Check out syncourt on YouTube, he does videos showcasing different builds. Also solos both deep dives without over clocks so you can get some ideas from that

[mellow cove]

Deep dive seeds are identical for everyone right? Like, not only location, but enemy spawns

I'm sure I had times when I had bet-c in one attempt but not in another

This edd on second stage we had to fight twins twice because one appeared as a swarm, wonder if it's something everyone has to go through or just our bad luck

[dim gorge]

Just bad luck. Swarms are still randomised

Initial spawns are the same for everyone, but swarms may vary. Some people got dreads, some get regular swarms, I myself got a Praetorian one at one point

[mellow cove]

Oh well

At least that was fun

[elfin falcon]

i thought bet-c and korloks were linked to the seed?

also i tried the edd twice and I got a huuli hoarder twice on the first stage, is that a coincidence? (both were 4 players)

[obsidian topaz]

is there a good place for meta loadouts

[mellow cove]

Apparently bet-c and hoarders are random but I imagine tyrant weed is seeded

And I think detonators

[elfin falcon]

crassus dets are

i think bulks are just random though

[mellow cove]

Never got korloks in dives though

I remember playing with a guy who already completed this deep dive and he said that this stage will have 3 bulks, and well, it had

[exotic oxide]

Special enemies and stationary enemies like korlok, bet-c, leeches, spitballers etc. are also influenced by the number of players, too

So you're only guaranteed the same ones as someone else if you have the same player count as them

[old widget]

This discord is the best source I’ve found for examples of what builds work well, though some will point you to the website karl.gg. If you have weapon OCs, look at what builds are viable using those OCs and try them out. (Discord search function is your friend)

Also bear in mind that some of the builds you’ll see discussed here have changed with U34. The latest update shook up the meta in several places and many more builds are viable and fun now.

[sand coyote]

How large is the variance between swarms again?

[leaden cypress]

as large as fatboy's radiation area

[sand coyote]

Sometimes the swarms are larger

Sometimes smaller

[fringe kettle]

@vestal panther por favor

[charred root]

Just did a EDD and i dont have my matrix, overclock and cosmetic... we did it in less than 46 mins

[viral tulip]

Did you already do the EDD this week?

[charred root]

nope, i did the DD yesterday and the EDD Today

No i know what just happened LMAO

Instead to chose the EDD i chose the DD...

Or i chose the EDD like i wanted, but chose a DD one instead... im so dumb lol

[elfin falcon]

Haha

Didn't you feel like it all seemed a bit familiar or anything?

[charred root]

sandblasted and Salt pit REALLY dont look like each other ffs

[long bobcat]

Is deep for speed just for EDDs? just got a 40 min DD run and i didn't get the achievement.

Never mind, it popped when i closed the game.

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[halcyon nacelle]

Can someone link the current weeks DD and EDD list? I wanna do it when I get oit of work.

[scarlet jewel]

Should be in the pins i believe

[wicked storm]

pinged message

[halcyon nacelle]

On mobile, that didn't occur to me.

Thanks.

[fresh escarp]

This EDD was loekey too easy

[naive bobcat]

The stage 2 3 blackbox was a terrible experience

[raven grove]

Black box was stage 3. And we had an oppressor come up beneath us and a swarm followed.

[fresh escarp]

I just nuked it about 8 times

[spark cipher]

Probably a dumb question, but: do I get overclocks from the normal deep dive and elite deep dive?

Coolio

Might have to try out the EDD sometime soon (and probably do terribly)

[flat dirge]

It won't be that bad, you're a good dwarf who knows it's way around a gun.

[wraith shard]

Yes

[spark cipher]

I would but school

[severe tusk]

I am still new to the game, but I was able to complete a Deep Dive solo. I tried the first stage of the Elite Deep Dive though, and it was a bit rough.

[shadow shoal]

A good rule of thumb is, if you can constantly beat haz 4, dd is no issue

[tawny tangle]

so yeah, i tried EDD just to see how bad it was

i died in stage 1

9 aquarqs and all the morkites but i took way to long ang got overrun

(solo engee in PE low O2 was awful also)

[severe tusk]

The Oxygen hazard is the most annoying for me.

[tawny tangle]

yeah getting the aquarqs on the upper part of the area was really annoying

and when you take to long in PE, it rarely end well

[severe tusk]

I could probably do it on a 2nd try, since I know where everything is now.

[tawny tangle]

same

but i m a bit lazy

i just wanted to see what it looked like since i never even tried haz5

[severe tusk]

Me either.

I usually do hazard 3 or 4, but I am still new and leveling up all of the classes.

[tawny tangle]

same

right now only engee promoted

though i have gunner and driller at 24 and 23 i think

[severe tusk]

Yeah, I have not even played Scout yet.

[tawny tangle]

tbh, scout would have been way easier than engee to solo stage 1

grappling hook on the high ground would save to much time

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[buoyant wing]

yeah just nag bosco to dig them all out while you zip back to the rig to breathe

took way too long the first time 'cause I couldn't find where it stowed away all the aquarqs as driller

[sleek verge]

Did it as engie and gunner, bosco can just mine most things for you while you hoover minerals up and deposit aquarqs

Tons of nitra so u can ignore nitra in the next stages

[buoyant wing]

did it with gunner main friend and he died inside his shield because shield disruption

a true classic

[trail bone]

I didn’t even consider that the gunners shield doesn’t work on shield disruption.

Or did I interpret that wrong

[odd comet]

It does, but it doesn't make you near-invulnerable to damage like normal

It usually supercharges your shield so it recharges really quickly (and maybe increases your max shield health?) while inside it, but when you have no shield, you lose that effect

So you can still die if you stand too close to the edge and bugs bite you through it

[trail bone]

Hmm at least I can block off a corridor for a bit with it

I thought it just straight up does nothing

[buoyant wing]

he got exploder'd

[sleek verge]

it gives you damage reduction but you lose out on major healing yeah

[copper summit]

Man I hope this edd will be fair and rng won't be painful

[burnt sandal]

Wdym ? 😄

Deep Dives are randomly generated

they don't "make" them

[hallow niche]

https://youtu.be/e8Z6fZFTV-0

[radiant storm]

is the embedded detonators best burst zhukov oc?

[burnt sandal]

yup

[radiant storm]

does the weakpoint damage bonus apply to the detonation itself?

hollow-point bullets one

[burnt sandal]

Nope

The weakpoint bonus damage only apply to the bullet itself, not the explosion

[radiant storm]

I see , thanks.

[buoyant wing]

it's fixed damage, but it's a massive burst of it

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[calm sequoia]

Oh boy I wonder if Management needs more eggs and Morkite

[burnt sandal]

in b4 we get full escort

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Raging Overlook
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators!
Stage 2: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 2 Eggs | Low Oxygen
Stage 3: 3 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Twins | Critical Weakness Elite Threat

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Eternal End
Stage 1: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 150 Morkite | Parasites
Stage 2: 7 Aquarq + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Exploder Infestation!
Stage 3: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | No Mutators!

If you are on Update 33 the Mutators will be different, but the Objectives will be Identical!

[quiet mortar]

Yep, more Eggs

[high garden]

Deep rock employees are living exclusively off glyphid omlettes if the amount of eggs we collect every week is anything to go by

[calm sequoia]

Great source of protein

[dim gorge]

Regular DD: Liquid Morkite + 2 eggs | low oxygen

[quiet mortar]

You had to say something XD

[signal pawn]

ikr

at least theres no warning modifiers

[quiet mortar]

true

[raven grove]

That definitely wasn’t true for the first deep dives after update 33. Unless you want to tell me that both deep dives just happened to be the brand new biomes they made?

[signal pawn]

They chose that seed for that one that's true

[quiet mortar]

Yeah, still random, they just kept rolling till they got the biomes they wanted lol

[burnt sandal]

woops

[burnt sandal]

It was. Always has been and always will.
And if you're talking about the biome selection, it might not have been random for the 1st DD on U33 but other than that, it's always random.
But the statement that they don't make the deep dives by hand is still true.

[dim gorge]

Regular DD stage 3: 3 MULE's + dreadnought | Elites + Critical weakness

[signal pawn]

for those that want to speed up their refuelling, drill the shale off the wall

[dim gorge]

Regular DD stage 3 dread is twins

LMAO, I've forced them to heal twice in a row because of how many stalactites there is on the ceiling

[formal thorn]

If you can pull it off, get a stalactite to fall on one of them, it hits for at least 60% of their health. I killed one that way.

[high garden]

How are the aquark spawns on stage 2 of the edd

Hopefully no ceiling-digging

[wraith shard]

EDD is a fucking joke this week. Had almost 800 nitra for the escort finale

@high garden one was close to the celling but none of them were in it.

[keen raptor]

finally some refinery missions, some variation is nice

[wraith shard]

did edd solo as gunner (neurotoxin payload + compact mags), actually very manageable
the refinery tile isn't arse, the only thing that'd be difficult is killing the dread fast on stage 2, but even then the aquarq locations are very tame

[supple quarry]

PE / escort / Refinery / dreads EDDs, that's pog right there

[wraith shard]

the stage 2 dread fight gives you so much space that it's easy

just run and gun

[tranquil urchin]

What is your build for both?

[wraith shard]

AC: 33122
BRT: 23231
*not really a minmaxer it's just the setup i like

[tranquil urchin]

Yeah I get that, Im the same. I think Neurotoxin is fun, I go with 22122. I will try out yours

[keen raptor]

btw for the 3rd DD stage, theres a spitballer above the twins' cocoon, if you fight them there theres loads of the roof crystals, i had the lacerator get killed by them it makes the fight ezpz unless i got lucky

[formal thorn]

I had the same thing happen

[keen raptor]

idk what caused the crystals to fall but im not complaining lmao

[idle warren]

You shoot em

Dd3 looks rough lmao