#deep-dive-discussion
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Bruh, it not a huge deal guys
i've done "really tough edd" with a dude who was level 13
my 9 year old cousin can handle haz 4 in what world are you living ?????
I was just asking about difficulty
lmao
And sure bro
hows the elite dd this week
Low nitra
yay
Yes sorry!
really liking the look of that EDD, perfect biome for it tbh
does this weeks normal deep dive have an escort?
pinned
the edd was chill
both eggs in the refuel room so you can grab them both as you start the dozer again
whats a black box
like the mission uplink from salvage missions
just gotta repair it and defend for a bit
ah
last weeks normal DD fucked me since i had no other promoted dwarves minus scout
and died on escort
@odd rover Elephant rounds was neutered a few updates back. I highly recommend six shooter for the bulldog if you have it.
me and 2 other guys did edd first try . we had driller gunner scout. entered stage 3 with 0 nitra but its ok because there is enough for 5 re supplys in stage 3
decided this week would be my first dd
had a good crew of dwarves. lots of fun. hectic but i never felt like i had to try too hard to stay alive.
DD isn't bad, if you can play Hazard 3 you'll be fine in it. The EDD, on the other hand, takes a bit more skill
How's the EDD this week? One shot or couple tries? Only got time for one run this week, so wondering if we should just do the DD
was a couple trys for me last week, didnt even get it last week. this week took 3 tries
cool cool, so i’m guessing by the messages sent it’s a lot more tame than last weeks?
stage 1 drilldozer lethal enemies looks to be the most annoying bit
its not so bad honestly
only haz 4.5 and if you keep moving, the enemies shouldnt be much of an issue
the thing thatll get you is maybe lingering too long in the refuel stage
you can also grab the eggs as you hit the button after the refuel to avoid worrying about them before/after
just one big swarm and ur good
edd is pretty easy this time
except if you teammate starts a blackbox next to a dreadnought and breaks the cocoon too for some reason
which did happen to me and I was sad about that
we almost did it w/o a prob 1st try but died to 1 teamkill c4 lmao
Got it first try. Wasn't too bad but I sucked against the dreadnaughts as Driller
This week's EDD is super rich on nitra
we had 6 resupplies at stage 3
and nitra left over
accidentally tossed 3 sticky grenades this week and downed someone with one
this is becoming a bad habit
still not as bad as that time i downed two people with one sticky nade on an edd a couple months ago
throwing smh
actually maybe it is worse since i was at least trying to kill bugs
i seriously just stood there and for no good reason hit g and downed our engi
Best thing happened tonight on dd got bet c on an escort mission and breezed thru it
so betc is rng on dd?
no, it depends on the number of players
Since BET-C, leeches, crassus and spitballer are generated with the map seeds, it's depending on the player number
I mean i once got a BET-C on a deep dive but then not on the second attempt, both times there were 4 people
@burnt sandal
is the map generation for EDD different for Microsoft vs Steam version? I ran it like 12 times last week and it was just 2 slightly different versions of similar missions
one thing i remember in particular were the eggs were either both in the first room together or were spread out between the 2nd and 3rd rooms on that first escort mission
I think it is yeah
on the steam version ive run the edd 4 times today and the eggs on the first missions were always in the same spots, similar case a week or so ago with another egg misssion... perhaps not enough runs to see the possible variants if there are any @split jacinth
dunno what to tell you then
I do remember that both version are slightly different
I think I've tested it with someone something like 2 months ago ?
Today I learned that failing the black box just means you have to restart it
Only hard part of the EDD this week was getting a bulk during the black box that spawned right next to us
Both missions with bosses give you nice big rooms to fight them in, so they’re pretty simple
yup
microsoft version doesn't generate the maps the same, due to console's limitations
I have also seen eggs in different places on multiple runs of same DD. Haven’t done enough quantity of EDD to validate there but it should use the same seed logic
(And I’m on Steam)
One of the DD minimules on stage 3 is impossible to find o.o
Way above in an alcove next to a huge vertical shaft
Yeah theyre hard to find
DD/EDD aren't tested are they?
i'd say maybe
sometimes there is stuff that feel very intentionally placed there
like leaf lover trap in a sense
the kind of thing you'd go to grab instantly but if you know better you wouldn't touch it
that or cave leeches at certain spot
nevermind seems like they aren't tested
What do you mean ?
Seeds are random and not hand made if that's what you're asking
the devs don't know what's in it
The eggs are always in the same place, seeds are identical so all terrain, minerals, and mission objectives are always static.
Layouts can change slightly if there are mid-week patches that affect terrain gen
yea there's an edge case there
And yet, I ran the same deep dive twice, and the eggs were in different places. /shrug/
(many days apart)
Ran it hours after release on Thursday 3/11, then ran it again with some friends who hadn't done it on the evening of Wednesday 3/17. First time, eggs were together in one chamber, second time they were split up.
I understand how it's /supposed/ to work, but clearly there's something else going on. Perhaps the hotfix on the 15th as was suggested
(and I'm not alone, see #deep-dive-discussion message for example)
I think hotfixes are the most likely culprit
Maybe they make subtle changes to terrain gen that are not reflected by patch notes
Or not even intended
Yeah last week's EDD did that different egg placement thing, the dev stream had them both in the starting room on the Friday, but when i played it asap they were along the way
The version hash is likely factored into the procgen somehow
At what point would you recommend people get into EDD? I just started doing the regular DDs, and those extra two weapon OC's a week look incredibly juicy, but the thing itself is also incredibly scary.
If you can handle haz 5 and regularly play in haz 4 with no problem, you're probably ready for the EDD 🙂
do it, yolo
This is the way.
This is the way.
This is the way.
Go for it, worst case scenario, you die. But who knows, maybe you won't
Probably a good idea. I mean I'd hate screwing up a run for the teammates, so I'd rather be able to at least somewhat pull my weight.
you can still try solo
or play with @supple quarry to be carried as hell and clear the edd easy peasy

cayde 6 ?
Oui 

I do not carry anything so far, my partner is as competent as I am 

I did last week's EDD because my game was out of sync bc of daylight savings
Give it a shot and worst case you fail the first mission. Early on managing to get the second stage done is a big benefit since you get an extra OC. But you still get the OC even if you fail on stage 3. Even the extra core that you can spend in machine event is nice.
I did the normal deep dive, got rewards. Then just did again and got the rewards again
Did anyone else experience this?
I'll see if I get double EDD rewards as well
I'm playing with friends who haven't done it yet so we are moving onto the EDD
Not currently no. With my IRL friends we try to 3 man them
happen before to me. Did it once then didn’t show the meter fill at the terminal still got the rewards
I didn’t do it again tho cause didn’t wanna abuse it
I do the core hunt then dd and I'm scared that the Edd is just going to take my booty hole
With this weeks EDD you can cheese it by drilling to end
if you like
for escort mission
Wow really
Yeah you can clear all nitra/resources
then come back to start the dozer. I don't normally do it, but the driller I did it with earlier did that strat
made it very easy
sounds like something that would make these future escorts better, thanks m8 @vernal glacier
i was zoomin and then it fell in one
I've had this happen to me
It was very annoying to fix
Ice rink was fun, I was pretty stoked for that
How's the EDD
DD was a piece of cake even with randoms so that was a change of pace
Man, a lot of escort & egg dives lately though
i had a bunch of fun with the ice rink hiveguard
messed around and figured out molly could block fireballs
my 3rd stage spawned a mini mule completely separated from its legs and way higher so that actually sucked
had to have bosco fetch me each leg
"Dreadnought On Ice" was hilarious. I suggest you play the Can Can to that fight.
EDD and DD have like no nitra compared to normal deep dives
But moderate difficulty
Ice rinks are great for fighting dreads though
You can literally run circles around them
Idk about that, normal deep dive had a TON
Was able to fuck around and drop multiple resupplies each stage
A lot was high up
On both steam and xbox it was pretty chill
The edd was less than usual iirc but not bad
I tend to run ammo efficient loadouts though
EDD ammo wasn't scarce, but you definitely valued each resupply
this EDD had a ton of nitra
stage 3 esp
was about to kill the stage 3 dreadnought and end it but host's game crashed
ez EDD tho
My IRL friend called down about 3 supply pods which we didn't need at end of stage 1 as a goof, we still had loads of nitra throughout the dive.
The drilldozer missions give so much nitra. The EDD we were running out of nitra towards the end, but that is mostly due to a lot of time wasting and bad grenades. Out of last 6 EDDs I have done, this is significantly the easiest.
Maybe it is due to the perks/build your team is taking?
I find there is a huge nitra diff on teams with cryo w/ epc driller vs flame driller/no driller. Cryo is just so efficient
Hey guys, does HomeBrew Explosive affect direct damage or just area damage?
Wondering what tier4 to bring on PGL since HyperProp is great for Dreadnoughts
Which seem to be on every EDD now
It's hard to judge ammo efficiency and nitra economy with a cryo gun in the party
I think we finished the EDD, as a 2 man party, with like 600/800 nitra left at least
so you should be good, then it obviously depends on builds / skill / veins missed or not
Started the deep dive without looking at what missions were in it
When I did look and saw there were 3 dreadnoughts I thought "OK guess I'll come back as Gunner when I die"
But managed to get through it, slowly but surely
Twins are substantially more of a nightmare than the other dread types on solo haz 5
twin dreads are the most annoying solo because they are always aggro on you, which is rough when they're so fast 😛
Not sure if you can double axe them while they're frozen like you can with oppressors
If so that would help a lot
Need to practice it
....why is it always escort
The escort mission was the least of my problems this time personally lol
But yeah it sucks
holy shit we had two teammates who said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING the entire dd and double dipped almost every supply
😬
i was the only one to make it back to the pod but damn it we cleared the dd
sorry other good teammate 😦 i tried to save you but had to gtfo when an exploder infestation spawned on the ramp
that last mini mule location was messed up lol
this week's EDD was a killer
my hyper propellant carried me through the EDD thankfully
mass praets/oppressors and swarmers was extremely tough on us
Sorry, maybe a dumb question but i've started playing this week. Should I be able to complete a deep dive soloing as a scout as a beginner player or is it a really hard thing to do?
Id say if you played a fair bit of haz 3 you can give it a try, but elite deep dives are tougher
i wouldnt solo a DD as a scout for your first attempt
DD you should be comfortable in haz 4
U can
Lacerators fire breath is incredibly annoying with cryo if you time things poorly
when do you know you're ready for a DD?
Will definitely waste some ammo if you're not careful
Once you promote, you're ready
(new player here... 3 classes promoted once)
Normal dd is just some low hazard missions
do you have to do them at haz 4?
Regular DD is only haz 3/3.5
maybe a better question is, how do I know that I'm ready for haz4?
Definitely just go for it
The only way to know is to try it and find out what happens!
You'll lose some missions and die but that's fine
Hopefully the next go around you won't die the same way
And eventually you'll have died in all sorts of ways and know how to deal with situations
also... where do you get matrix cores so that you can do the events in the missisons
First mission of the weekly core hunt, DD, and EDD
Second gives an overclock, third gives a cosmetic
To clarify you can do the events anyways, and should, but you won't get a reward if u don't have blank cores
Pass or fail you get the same exp so they're nice to find either way
does it matter what difficulty you do those missions?
it's 3, 3.5, 3.5
why everyone is always saying the wrong numbers
We just played the elite dive with a friend, and almost at the end of the 3rd mission, he lost connection, was kicked and couldn't join again, isnt this supposed to NOT happen?
That was extremely frustrating
1:30 hours wasted for him
what's supposed to not happen ? Losing connection ?
that's on him, not the game
and since you can't join ongoing deep dives, I believe if you leave, you leave for good
The rejoin thing should work, except that
It works only on situations where you don't want to rejoin exclusively
What sort of perks are best for this weeks EDD? Still getting used to EDD in general.
the perks you like the most
lol, fair enough.
iron will
limited use perks like iw, syih, fm are strong on deep dives since they get restocked every stage
Depends on the class, biome, warning, weapon kit, solo or not, preference... etc
🤓
ouch, edd attempt one, failure to beemers.
failure to luxury automobiles?
Was playing a deep dive, halfway through got disconnected from host 🥲
is the EDD bad
DD is hazard 3 - 3.5 - 3.5
EDD is hazard 4.5 - 5 - 5.5
that should help
I just beat this week's EDD with three single promotion randoms.
Was the most clutch EDD I've ever had, we nearly wiped several times on the last mission and ended up killing the Dreadnought with pickaxe attacks after we ran completely out of ammo.
pickaxe damn
quick question, in deep dive you get OC for the miner class you play or random?
random
I have unlocked DD, can I bring my friends who are not yet promoted (they're lvl 22) ?
No, everyone must play with a promoted class
So I’m new, joined during the free weekend, so what’s a Deep Dive? I figure it’s a super long mission, but what specifically is it? More importantly, how much time should I set aside to get one done?
it will take you ~1 hour if you're new to this
deep dives are basically 3 missions in a row, you conserve your nitra, gold, ammos and health between them
once per week you have rewards for completing each 3 missions
you don't have crafting materials, machine events, lost packs or cargo crates in deep dives, so that doesn't replace normal missions, you usually just do them once per week for the rewards
Okay, cool. Thanks for the explanation.
yw :3
I was mainly concerned about how long it would take to complete.
At most a deep dive would take 90 minutes
at least 45 min until you're more used to it, and yes max 90min I'd say
unless something goes terribly wrong
But I've rarely seen it go that long, usually around 50-70 with relatively new players
anyone know what the elite deep dive stages are and its modifiers?
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oh okay ty
There is a cheevo for doing it in less than 40 minutes but it's not realistic to get it on a week that has an escort mission lol
A guy on speedrunning just did in 29min
if you are playing with new players and a full squad thats unrealistic on the edd
i think having enough for 3 drops was enough for my entire solo DD
I said compared to the other deep dives in the past weeks
Where there was like 8-9 drops
Got killed running to the escape pod to start part 3.
/uninstall
we're normal humans here
at most if you're like, not sure what to do and need to retrace it might be like 2 hours, like, the upper limit for the times I got lost and ran around the map looking for a black box because I didn't see it, or things like that
usually you'll find it along the way but yeah thats valid
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woah
i didnt expect anyone to reply after so long lol, thanks but I've already checked pins and done the dive
this weeks DD was a snooze fest
Every dd is a snoozefest its haz 3
its not too bad if you arent rushing it
fair
as a scout

I personally just want the last weapon overclock I'm missing
lol
been getting cosmetics for the last 4(?) events
kinda annoyed
I've got all the OCs I want
not even sure what is the driller OC I'm missing, I don't even play driller
scout is the wannabe doom slayer I dream to be
power pickaxe + vampire is basically this game's glorykilling without iframes
😛
I mean, you need to hook for combat, staying put means death, you have an assault rifle and shotgun as main weapons
ammo is scarce too, so that fits the vibes 😛
ive been using tcf pretty offensively lately and its good fun
but i feel you
TCF... offense...
Hold on, I’m checking to see if those two words can legally be put together
I’m a tried n’ true plasma burner
Unfortunately so.
xD
Somewhere around silver 2 I picked it up and then I blinked and I woke up with a diamond banner and the mod still equipped
I’m not sure what happened
i feel that
I can’t believe I used to use subata
yeah i used to use a volatile bullets build
8 promotions later and here we are
or however many
‘Tis a shame this weeks regular deep dive kinda sucks for cryo
Still used it anyways cause I’m not touching the fl*methrower
But still
oh yeah i still used it when i was playign driller
tcf destroyed those dreadnoughts xD
~mostly the axes though
i will vouch for tcf being used on the hiveguards crystal things
When I’m not running ice storm, my main tactic against dreads is to cry loudly and try to freeze them but get to 80% before they move away
chunks all of em at once if not just 2
ah yes
i usually run max cold and forgot to switch off
Idk why anyone would run the balanced OC for flow rate when the clean OC for freeze power/flow rate exists
Last I checked, it has the same flow rate buff
Is the TCF the thing that people use to mine with the EPC?
yes
Yeah
Plasma burn is just so great for single target damage
only if you hit it through, right?
you need to implode it
I no longer fear spitballers nearly as much
yeah
An axe + plasma burn shot gets it
it's basically that gun from Quake 😛
ah yeah plasma burn does have good single target
i just cant care
yeah bfg kinda
i tend to have enough axes/freeze power to deal with single targets
plus drills dont slack on oppressors
Oppressors just get the double axe throw treatment once I freeze them
that is always solid but i like to mix it up sometimes
Tbh they’re less deadly than praets
Wait... am I thinking of Unreal Tournament?
yeah i save my axes for praets
ah
i made deep dive in my duos server and he got 1 empty core and i didnt get any, is it bug or normal?
Did you complete the deep dive before?
yeah we made other maps before
yesterday i joined someone and he closed server in game
You can only get rewards once
as i failed yesterday, i cant get an empty core?
You get cores at the end of each stage. If you already complete that stage for the week you won't get the core again.
Nope, if you attempt DD and, say clear stage 1, then host cancel, and you retry later, since you already did validate stage 1 you won't have any further reward from it
When you have access to the DD terminal you can check, each DD has a little icon for stage 1 | 2 | 3
If it's greyed out, you didn't earned the reward yet, if it's yellowed, it's done already
failed the first stage of the EDD on my first try
sad
I'll wait until my program stuff works so I can have more than 20FPS lol
If you fail a DD can you try again?
Yes
cool
You can try as many times as you like during the week a dive is active
i understand u dont get rewards again
Correct. Once you gain the rewards, that's it for them for the week
Is there a strat to the deep dives? anyone wana summarize in a couple sentinces each level? Im about to get my promo so im going to attempt to my first one this week
They're normal levels back to back where the nitra you collect carries over between each stage, and every stage has a slightly higher hazard level than the last.
Three levels total, and they do not change so you can keep making attempts and learn them for the week they're running.
Since they change each week there's no real strategy to apply to every deep dive, although you can get hints from others who have done them that week to know what's within.
Elite deep dives are hazards 4.5, 5, 5.5 for each of the stages in that order.
Yep
is there little nitra on the 3rd elite deep dive stage?
I just finished all of the deep dive objectives just to die at the end. This was my first deep dive too
I’m stuck on the deep dive loading scereen I need help
It’s says hi miners first a huge thank you for helping us stabilizing
Is solo deep dive an easier difficulty because it's solo?
Not difficulty, but you'll find its easier in general
Only harrowing part is the twins solo but bosco makes it ezpz
also easy if you get lucky with a bulk to blow them up like I did
I don't remember, but we end up at stage3 putting beacons of O2 with drops of ammo so I guess there was enough to get through
do u mean on this week or in general ? I already did EDDs where stage 2 and 3 were lot easier than 1
All EDD have the same hazard levels
Stage 2 and 3 can feel easier because you start with nitra and you end up with a lot of it
I have the same opinion, surprised to see this kind of elevation of hazard
That's not really an opinion though 😄
Not only cause of that because ok you start with nitra but you also start with low ammo
you don't start with low ammo if you refilled before leaving, which is something I always do
in this case it was a hard doretta mission followed by two easy missions, i'd say haz 4
that's why I'm surprised to see this
still haz 5 and 5.5 ^^
that's actually is lmao
from my experience, the most hellish mission is usually the first, sometimes the second
it takes a peculiar and mean combination to make the last one the deadlier in general
for 2nd and 3rd ?
yeah
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From one stage to another it can feel easier even if the hazard rank up due to amount of nitra you have, primaries, mutators ...
A stage 1 H4.5 shield disruption escort with no nitra to begin with, may feel harder than a Stage 3 H5.5 Regen bugs morkite
got it ! 
This week's EDD looks a bit on the mean side
if a DD has a bulk, will the bulk appear in every DD?
No
that explains why Dori in the first stage is so much easier than Dori in the third stage
thought it was just exhaustion
The "Driller's Salute" EDD was the hardest for me. 1st stage had Doretta with Lethal, then 2nd stage had a tricky map layout, and 3rd stage had Shield Distruption. 🥲
the one the devs nerfed ?
yeah that's this one I think
I remember it. It was a brutal one indeed.
that's 1 stop since this nerf ye
devs have the stats anyway, they have nerfed it because they felt something had to be done, looking at the winrate of this particular EDD I guess
Yeah I'm joking I see enough people struggling with escort, it was probably a good move from the devs
I suffer 2 stops more than usual because I like solo'ing the game
and escort is like
the hardest for that lol
escort solo requires extra focus
You have to lean forward, it increases gaming performance by a whole 47%
You're welcome

I gotta enable the RGB of my computer for the extra frames too
Lmao exactly 
Why is this weeks elite deep dive so hard
like is it just me and my cursed teams or is it actually really hard
which part
EDD are hard in general yeah
whats the winrate of it
Anyone know what this weeks EDD missions are
search for message from [GB] Muffin Cat in this channel
or check the pinned messages
yesterday i went on my first deep dive, with an awful build, got to second stage then got pounded by the bugs
а
where is the mule in the deep dive stage 3 we cant find it on the map
i clutched the edd solo with cryo driller somehow, but i tried to play with friends and failed 2nd stage on classic dread 😔
theres a little ledge way at the top of the big room
my deep dive terminal is bugged and darked out, is there any fix?
id upload an image but i cant
Hello, miners. What mods of deep now?
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I'd be surprised if petting loot bugs actually generates more Nitra instead of pulling from their value pool.
Not sure. I'm pretty sure its generated out of the air
@outer fiber @burnt sandal
Hey,
Would you be, by any chance, interested to go on the next EDD with me and @white marten ? 
(It's fine if you don't bring a mic)
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thanks for the offer but like I said before I'm doing them with a friend that doesn't play with "randoms" and I don't really want to do the EDD multiple times a week since it's already a chore to me...
pepeHands
Pepehands
The big sad
Probably not today but thanks for the invitation 😄
Nah not today I'm overloaded by work this week (But I got a day off this friday)
It was mostly to see if you were interested in the first place 😄
Yeah sure, why not 🙂
It's up to you to join the dark side 
Elite Deep Dive is aids. 😣
They probably are if you don't have the level for it.
where is the role channel to get role
oh jeez, the first mission in the EDD is lethal enemies? don't tell me it's on like H5 or 5.5 as well..
EDD is always 4.5/5/5.5 in that order
No need to be scared 😉
First times you may struggle, but you will end up getting the hand on it
as for Gunner class, which is better to take with the minigun, cold as the grave or hot bullets?
also
does hot bullets do damage before igniting the target? in the process of building up the heat meter
Catg
Catg for sustain, but hot bullets is underrated somewhat
so hot bullets does not do extra damage,unless the target has been ignited right?
check the wiki
Venting is underrated as well
Good for securing revives and taking the edge off a horde, 10 meters 1000% fear factor
"Rounds fired when the heat meter is red will burn the target"
nothing shows if it does extra damage before igniting the target, but am asking because i notice my DPS is better with hot bullets
nvm , saw it bottom
it does not do extra damage
ok then , thanks will go for Catg
It isn't underrated its average at best
i think allowing it to ignite faster would be better,most of the time they die before even taking damage from fire damage
Something that needs a buff isn't underrated
It’s not terrible, but other options are better
Thats what I’m getting out of the discussion
If I play a deep dive and go over reset there'll be no problem will there?
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for non-fire builds, CaTG and Aggressive Venting are both really strong options
I've personally been guilty of underrating Aggressive Venting in the past
Venting is T5 #1?
yes
Did an EDD with a crew of all gunners. It was hilarious with the sheer amount of firepower we were dishing out, but we all died 10 minutes into the second mission.
nastiest deep dive my group has encountered. we got to the last stage, all eggs in, but no resupply to fight the dreadnought. at least a hundred deaths between us 4
cool, people just wasting my time now. kicked twice in a row for no reason. and I wasn't even the first to die.
just about this close to giving up on the EDD already.
especially cos the tunnel after the first refuel cave ended up being an absolute mess.
so they kicked you just for the fun of it?
also just host your own
yeah, pretty much
I tried that
no one wanted to join
just my luck.
as always.
do u need driller for this edd
i don't mind joining, but i don't wanna play with first time EDD player or low rank 😦
Just got some first timer raking gold and carrying doretta's head
start with haz5 first
@modest field you're na east right ?
west
shit
sorry
I usually do h4 so wasn't expecting 4.5 to be that bad.
but if that's how it's like, then I'm dreading to see what 5 and 5.5 will be.
it's really not that bad if u have a competent team
it's 5.5 that's hard
u can try
haz5
but difficult star 1
make sure you run dash
so u have a gtfo card
welp, already on a dive now
gl
I usually run iron will + that quick revive one
you can also run it solo
now why would I wanna do that..
because you don't find a team to run it with you and it's kinda easy
if the team is the problem and they are kicking you for no reason might as well do it solo
bosco the best teammate
'Cause difficulty scales up the more you are, if teammates happen to be a downside, better be solo
4.5 shouldn't be that hard don't give up on it, mutators, cave generation, teammates ... a lot can get on top of just the Hazard and make it looks bad
ok, doing it with 2 others
driller got butthurt after I suggested to him to heal up with red sugar
final area
here we go..
Nah. Refuse to die. Drag the littered remains of your teammates' corpses with you through the mud as you rock and stone in defiance of the bug until victory is achieved.
sometimes it's just better alone https://ibb.co/tKNb5mw
also bosco revives replenishes
so as long as you don't die more than twice per mission you'll be fine
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ATTENTION MINERS!
New
Deep Dives
will be available in one hour!
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wish i had that kind of luck, dying because of a brutal extraction in a Deep Dive is the worst thing ever
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ATTENTION MINERS!
New
Deep Dives
are now available!
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Hoping no escorts this time, or at least 1
EDD stage 2 drilldozer 2 eggs parasites+rich atmosphere
Ye, so they already reset
thats ok. I just got promoted last night very late so at least now I know I got all week. So they always reset thursday at 8am?
can I invite my non-promo friends to my deep dive?
No, you can only play a promoted dwarf in a deep dive or elite deep dive
darn. my friends arent as serious about this game as me. I dont want to leave them behind, but...
And yes, they reset the same time every week, like the weekly assignment and the core hunt assignment
@quiet surge I know how you feel m8
OH well!
EDD stage 3 6 eggs 1 black box no modifiers
Very Sorry for being late the Dive's are:
DEEP DIVE
Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Whalepiper's Let-down
Stage 1: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box |
Critical Weakness
Stage 2:
Protect the Drilldozer +
2 M.U.L.E.s |
Exploder Infestation!
Stage 3:
250 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box |
Cave Leech Cluster
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Dry Caves
Stage 1:
225 Morkite +
2 Eggs |
Lethal Enemies
Stage 2:
Protect the Drilldozer +
2 Eggs |
Rich Atmosphere
Parasites
Stage 3:
6 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box |
No Mutators!
Ohhh... even more Drill Dozer.... cool
2 drilldozers again, perfect
I miss point extraction
Same
How many drilldozers do we have to get in order to see none at some point huh?
Fun fact. Since the release of Morkite well and Drill Dozer only 2 separate weeks have seen NO Drill Dozer.
Wait....
That's not a fun fact
No, it's terrible in fact
it is a fun fact for me 
I guess so
Question tho
Do the Devs look over the Deep Dive missions before releasing them?
Or is it a point blank rng release machine?
Seems random to me
They need to curve the rng on Drill Dozer.
thatd be edds as well then
they discover them each week as the same time we do, in their stream
impressive imo
some of the generated placements are really good
drill dozer missions are uh
well
All well and true. But 2 things that tick people off are repeat missions that dont put spacing in between them.
And an objective you cannot control 80% of its execution
there are 7 different primary objectives in DDs, with 6 missions total if you count both type of DD
it's likely you'll see at least one escort mission every week
yea
i mean i dont like
dozer missions
but
engi alone makes it a lot easier
but the enemy placements and such are impressive to me sometimes
rng knows how to kill players
I hate dozers too, I only at least tolerate them, nothing but expendable machines
I love the RNG aspect of the bugs. Can tolerate Molly getting in the way. And at this time. Dispise Drill escort
Glad I'm not alone on that
oh molly loves getting in the way
I adore the line "I wanna punch the guy in RND who programmed Molly" I love how the Devs are aware of that.
Not much they can do
She used the Bugs AI to move around
she also will just home in on u
if ur bags full or u pull an egg
she is on her way to block u
and theres nothing u can do !
Gotta love it. Oddly I never get angry at molly If I die. Just something I get.
Drill Dozers..... can burn
A big baby too if ya ask me
Molly has dragged me into a horde to my death more times than I'm comfortable with
"What kind of fiendish technology makes
constantly get in the way!"
How long till the new dives
They are out
👍
God, STOP with the drilldozers
Like 40 minutes minimum for those fuckers
aylo yes let me just spend 15 minutes getting oil shale because all of it is on the ceiling 30m away, fun mission!
I'd say if it takes you 15 min, there's a problem 
like your whole team doing nothing
not uncommon
even in EDD
and if i solo it, it doesnt solve much cuz the oil is still on THE CEILING, GSG WHY
you can ping bosco to mine it
Maybe we should just skip them, give em' a break for once, I mean it's not like they are required anyway
i'd skip if it was Stage3 cuz i only want the weapon cores
i'll try getting bosco to mine the shale
i'm not giving him expert tho
I think I had only one escort so far where my team really was doing nothing
i've seen too many times where both batteries are still dead in the dozer, the scout is off getting nitra (ok, no problem here), the gunner is mining gold and the engi is spending 5 minutes doing platforms and sentries when that takes 1 minute at most
so i'll take a battery and drill off, come back 2 minutes later with it filled to find the other battery still dead in the dozer
like we all need nitra. most of the times we have leftover but everyone needs nitra. never gonna spit at extra nitra.
but gold? do we really need to waste time on gold in the EDD
Well at that point I wouldn't think so, but some folks get it for extra creds, I would
4!
How many at once?
Jesus, that just makes me feel uneasy
2 when we did predrill into first stop
You have plenty of time to waste to get gold, I mine all the ones I see, we're only 2 in the party
And we still spend very reasonable time in the edd
and then 1 on actual stop and 1 before pillars stage
Gold should be on the way back since Molly is slow
Batteries should be priority so you're not sitting and waiting for more waves to waste ammo on
Also you can lower the black box to get a much more managable location
I love black box, feels like mercy
My point is, w/e you feel like mining or not, I do take my time in EDD, I mine everything, I backtrack a lot, we're trolling each other with my teammate, and we're far away from lacking time
So you do you, min/max the way you feel it works the best for you, but I sense that it's more a team issue rather than an escort issue
i don't know even when I'm on oil duty with like a gunner, it doesn't take me that much time, from what I read <so i'll take a battery and drill off> you were driller, it should take you 1m per battery, nothing I feel like worth complaining about
Don't misunderstand me, I know with random things can be a bit frustrating sometimes, my point is it's easy and trendy to point the escort for such things when from my pov the issue is somewhere else
escort missions are bad in any game
period
especially when the thing you have to escort is a whiny bitch who can't defend themselves cough Ashley cough
Not a fan of new mission types either. Lot's of busywork, which takes away the fun.
and the other thing that I see too often that pisses me off is people refueling one canister at a time
they forget to get the other one out
it's like it's legit my responsibility to refuel the other one every single time
I mean, define "bad"
I enjoy escort
I enjoy the end battle. I hate refuelling, hate waiting to get to the heartstone.
so anyway, last couple of swarms I had getting the eggs for the last EDD
I hate building pipelines for the refinery, especially if it's all vertical.
turned into a right butt-clencher
And some people hate the final battle, I feel like it's almost subjective
2 of my teammates overwhelmed
craters everywhere
I'm low on health as well
dozens of bugs coming after me
idk how I managed to stay alive
at least there's no dreadnought objective for this EDD
how so?
because dread are easy to fight
just one enemy to worry about?
well with the twin more than one but as long as you keep shooting both of them it's pretty easy
hiveguard too
the twins are the ones I always worry about
having to keep an eye on both at the same time
the big problem is people when they are aggroed keep trying to shoot the dread
trying to dodge the Lacerator while avoiding those AoEs from Arbalest
when the dread is aggroed on you the only thing you need to do is run away from your team so it's back is exposed
this is only valid for hiveguard and og dread
the OG Dread on 5.5 tho
twin dread you just need to shoot it
he is fast as fuck boi
Slow solo, fast in a party
But in a party the one aggroed is a lure, so it doesnt matter
maybe I should get the scout to aggro him while I light up his ass
^
Nah Darkfiremat mean by that is if you spend time shooting, that's time you don't spend running, so yeah he will feel quick
yeah well if you're trying to shoot him instead of running he'll seem very fast
o, felt like he was saying that dread aggros whoever was shooting him more
no
damn
dread has random aggro
you know the aggro on you when he suddenly start spitting fire ball at you and running at you
kind of a dead giveaway (especially if you don't dodge or run heuheuheuheueheh)
also you can proc his ground attack sometime when he charges by just getting close then running back
ah I see
it'll make him stop moving and give your team a great opportunity to light it up
i'd suggest not doing it if you don't know what the ramp up of the attack looks like because he also has a regular melee bite
just isn't ideal when he's going after a gunner like me
why ?
Just did EDD, pretty hard. The one time I was glad bulks spawned. Used a bulk explosion to instakill the lacerator. Arbalest barely survived. 8/10 for that alone
cos it's less damage going into him while I'm having to run
ye, but isn't gunner one of the main damaging classes
yeah but who cares
ok?
if you don't run you die
The dread doesnt care haha
well yeah.
and then your team has to rez you
fair enough.
while being attacked by the dread and you won't do dmg
You will have your time when he releases the aggro
when he's not aggroed on you, you'll have all the time in the world to deal dmg
also
don't be on a rope during dread fight it's the dumbest thing
I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around making a build for deep dives, since you can't switch loadouts inbetween each bit
you don't need a build for every situation
If your team respect the OG enough, and everyone accept to run as a lure when it's their time, it won't be much more of a big chunky bug that run around and does nothing else
I know, just wanna make sure that my build can handle mobs and dreads equally
ain't got any other OC for my thundercannon but splintering shells has been serving me well
a little more oomph(good for every situation) or exhaust vectoring(better for macteras) lead storm (great if you know how to use shield)
splintering shells works for everything
TBH, minigun would be a better pick for that but I guess splintering shells is good enough as well
depends on what you prefer to deal with quickly
yeah splintering shreds big boi a bit faster than CB
I prefer blowing up mobs quickly
isn't that worse than splintering tho
CB won't let you deal well with big bugs though
no
exactly
SS is a good middle ground
thing is you have a sidearm
true, true
splintering shell doesn't deal as well with mobs
meh, it's worked fine for me
the idea when you run CB is shred armor with main finish with sidearm
Doesn't do it as well isn't the same as doesn't do it well
since you should be running born ready the sidearm will always be filled anyway
and ready to shred
Compared to CB, SS is worse at dealing with groups
only have so much ammo with the Bulldog anyway
But it's an AC mod that boosts AOE, it's still real good at dealing with mobs
something like 13231 BRT with composite casing
I'll have to see what CB is like when I get a hold of it
you mentioned shredding armour - does CB have bigger armour-breaking potential?
your team will have little to no pressure and all the time i the world to focus the big boi
no but you run AB on AC
ah ok
Why run AB on the AC if you carpet bomber though ?
Pervert wants to see naked bugs
13211
because it shreds
the dives this week look pretty manageable, anyone have tips?
because you still need a way to deal with anything big
and tearing off armor is essential
Well I just shoot the weakpoint
as if it was the only thing in the way
I can see the point on minigun for AB because there is the slowdown and the spinuptime
good point
give it a try you'll see
You're running CB, it should be the only thing in the way by the time you have to deal with it
I did
never saw the point unless you pick it for your team
If you go for support this is indeed strong
.6m radius increase is like a 50% increase in the area of the damage
guess I'll have to try again
that's pretty significant
500%
Ok?
every one of those shells that hit guard or big boi will lose between 100% and 50% dmg
sure you'll do aoe
but you're still losing either half your direct dmg or all of your direct dmg
i get that CB is about aoe but don't neglect your direct dmg
^
Although with a cryo driller in the party you don’t really need to take off armor as the frozen status bypasses it.
got thru DD first go today. no dreads! exploders going for doretta isnt too bad though the layout of the refuelling cave was tricky and drop pod landed in a dumb spot. cave leeches and grabbers on mission 3 arent my favorite either
and more crappy traversal
scored improved thermal efficiency for my cyo cannon
now auto fire for my subata, finally
Perfectly Tuned Cooler or bust
Max flow, max freeze
Freeze the twins for easy wins
No questions axed
Two Escort Duties, here we go again
same man. same
nothing like a good long doretta mission to really make you go "well look at that overclock I will probably barely use".
Man all the escort missions really trying to break my addiction to this game.
I wish it was third stage so I could just throw the dive after stage 2.
I have everything so I just do them for fun. If its not going to be fun whats the point.
I did the EDD and the DD solo yesterday night, and got on just now to see what the new DD and EDD had in store for me.
I'm glad I get to do 4 Dozer escorts solo, again, within a 24 hour period.
Solo sounds fun but I hate the time factor.
I don't mind the time factor I'd like to move at my pace and not have to potentially deal with rands.
And I can't always depend on those friends I have that play the game, I don't know when they'll be online.
Hey uh I have a question, can I start doing EDD even though I still have no good OCs ? Do OCs make such a difference that I won't succeed in the haz 5.5 phase ? Also, what should a PR30 do to not get insta kicked when I join a server ?
Nah.
OC don't make or break runs into the planet. They are things that aid or change the way you do things.
Not having access to great ones isn't a detriment.
And I'm not sure what a PR30 is.
Player rank 30 perhaps?
That adds up.
Just pray really.
If you can type something in chat or have a mic connected and say something smart or endearing that might up your chances.
Hazard 5 scout solo is a lot harder than hazard 4 scout solo lol
Ah well, that's why I'm not a solo Scout.
Simplest way to get around the player level crap is to host your own EDD run in #lfg-steam, make it clear you’re lower rank, and welcome others
I just finished both the EDD and DD, and the DD feels like it's on haz 2
Being on mic in a voice pod is a great benefit for EDD anyway
Ah yes
Let's grab two eggs and start the black box after the entire team tells you to wait
surely that can't end badly
anyone know what it means when I get disconnected from a deep dive and there's no message? It's like I was kicked but with no message of why I got disconnected.
well this was fun
The EDD was brutal as always, had 4 Bulks during the Escort stage
2 at the same time
Driller really isn't very helpful during an escort lel
have you heard of sticky fuel?
Also, TCFIng shale is a huge speed boost on refuel
w h a t
Yea I ran the first section of the EDD.
I'm good on that for this week tbh.
Not gonna bother stressin.
EDD done. Not that bad tbh.
I think Driller mostly shine in everymission though, except Dreadnaught which giving him a little hard time.
driller is more mutator and enemy specific than mission type specific
he's mainly important if the map has a high swarmer/squishies count
like parasites
Driller's great for Escort
keeping swarmers/grunts off of the team while they shoot rocks is nice too
hes nice for beamers and theres a bug for rocks thats cheesy
and this week's edd escort has parasites, so Driller is good for that as well
Also TCF EPC can kill two beamers at once
Or he can just drill the beamer down in a second
So yeah
He's good for more than just fueling lol
on escort
Gunner is still the star of the show
But driller makes his job a lot easier during the fighty bits
Refueling is just the part that Driller excels at
sentries and mines can basically do the same thing
not saying he's bad
but engi and gunner are still the main classes
Yeah I agree
parasites are like swarmers and jellies, just more kill count stuffing for the turrets
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anybody wanna participate in a elite deep dive with me and a friend?
Have the Devs said anything about making a harder version of EDD? I know they are helping modders with support, but it would be cool to have a super hard mode which people should expect to fail
I always have the most fun on an EDD where you nearly fail, but just win.
No mention, and it's honestly a bad idea. Unless it's premade only.
On a scale of 1-10 how hard is EDD this week?
it's not that bad actually. End up with a lot of nitra even with not so good team
a lot of bulk tho somehow
and they apparently mostly come up in the escort missions
Can anyone recommend a guide on the EPC with thin containment? I've been practicing and I absolutely cannot seem to get it to work more than like 1 of 15 shots lol.
its all about timing
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fire parallel to what you want to mine, not directly at it.
Also make sure your ping is good. Hard to hit a precise target if its teleporting around
was anyone else able to make a smiley face with how much nitra we mined in the normal DD? 900 Nitra so much I dont get why we get so much of it
Thanks for the links!
I don't draw faces 😄 but there is too much of it indeed , very often we end up with 600/900 nitra
@rose raven wow already got it thanks to the video!
any recommendations on which class i should pick to try solo this week's edd? i just wanna get the blank matrix core
weapon core too
idk i did gunner autocannon neurotoxin and brt7 lead spray
well, this edd wasnt too nightmarish
lots of eggs tho
we gonna have plenty omelettes
From what I've seen, Bosco actually mines shale faster than a regular pickaxe.
i found the first stage the hardest, the escort is just a standard EDD escort so ymmv, driller helps a lot with the parasites
oof had an unfortunate end to a solo DD. I really shouldn't tackle those until I'm more familiar with haz4
Basicly, nearly out of ammo, fell down a hole, rollers knocking me about and the icing on the cake is a cave leech
New EDD is much more manageable than the last two. Pretty glad about that given I lack a lot of weapon OCs
I'm not sure why everyone is saying that EDD has too much nitra. First mission we could only find around 240 nitra. Nowhere near close to these levels that some people are talking about.

