deep-dive-discussion

[buoyant forge]

does feel weird that EDD rewards are the same as DD tbh

[burnt sandal]

meh

EDD are for the challenge mostly

[wintry root]

I am currently trying to find the automatic Subata, any of the weird Cryo cannon mods, faster Minigun spinup, and anything for the revolver that’s not six shooter

Yeah it’s just a beard measuring contest

[atomic anchor]

Is the auto subata any good?

[wintry root]

I’d also like the fat boy but whenever I go engi I just get stubby mods

I don’t know but it would go well with frost cannon to finish me off

Them off

[atomic anchor]

it just probably makes driller a non-factor for long-distance engagements

but that's ok, not everybody needs to be able to contribute to those fights

[abstract rain]

I do really appreciate cosmetics being on deep dive 3

[wintry root]

Maybe you could combine it with the 20 metre flame stream and use the flamethrower as your sniper weapon

[abstract rain]

Makes failing a EDD on stage 3 almost a non-issue you know?

Like I'm barely mad

[wintry root]

Yeah my problem is if I fail a dd it’s usually on stage 2

Stage 3 is easy but it’s just for the overclock mastery to get a free one for every five you forge

[burnt sandal]

it's good

[wintry root]

Why does the he grenade not explode till it’s gone past all the bugs

[burnt sandal]

HE grenade is... the worst grenade in the game

[wintry root]

Whereas the incendiary grenade has zero range and burns your toes

[burnt sandal]

It's very bouncy

the effects aren't so great

and it has a long fuse time

[odd rover]

Probably needs a prox trigger if it doesn't get replaced entirely.

[desert crag]

@atomic anchor auto subata just helps prevent carpal tunnel

[burnt sandal]

It would need a big buff or to be replaced honestly

[atomic anchor]

how are you ever gonna take care of that badonkadonk if you're automating all those calorie burning mouse clicks

[desert crag]

I got beatsaber for burning calories

i dont want no index finger arthritis

from using the worst gun in the game

lol

[atomic anchor]

best possible comeback

beatsaber is legit

[burnt sandal]

But not drg related

[wintry root]

Imagine if there was an escort mission deep dive and Doretta ran through the Dreadnought egg

I guess it’d be like bulks or random dreads spawning on a normal escort. Step on the gas and deal with the bug once the dozer is out of the way?

A bulk spawned on dd stage 1 today. I tried to make a platform and parkour over it but its burn attack goes in all directions

Also there were a lot of menaces today

What I liked on stage 2 is how easy it is to see explorers against the azure weald background

Exploders

[merry creek]

God that shield disruption took me by surprise - easily the one mutator which I've flat out refused to play as a Gunner player. Somehow survived and made it through! Though the Stage 2 'arena' for the Dreadnaughts was fucky

[wintry root]

i think as a compromise when shield disruption is on there should be no fall damage

[ripe dust]

You take less damage on shield disruption

which makes it no harder than a regular mission

[burnt sandal]

wut ?

[tawdry quest]

You gain a 30% damage reduction buff in Shield Disruption

[burnt sandal]

for the falls you mean ?

[tawdry quest]

No, just in general

[burnt sandal]

oh then you mean the health boost

[tawdry quest]

Falls and hazard damage are the most threatening things in shield disruption though, yeah

And FF

Sorry whoops it is indeed a health boost

[burnt sandal]

yeah

I was like "what" 😄

[tawdry quest]

Had Vet Depositor in mind lol

[full matrix]

Just completed my first edd. I'm so happy

[pastel stream]

Am I a bad person for getting mad at someone for taking 2 ammo things without asking while we are doing a deep dive

[outer fiber]

no, it's 1 per person if you don't ask

[burnt sandal]

If there's 4 of you, yeah it's a bit rude, except maybe during a wave where it can get pretty chaotic and you don't really have time to remember who took some and who didn't

but otherwise : it's rude and you should not do that.

[pastel stream]

Oh this person was aware and even tried defending himself

[viral tulip]

Was it a full team?

[pastel stream]

Yea

[outer fiber]

kick him so he doesn't do that again lol

[viral tulip]

Dingus move

[pastel stream]

Oh I just made us fail

[outer fiber]

pog

[viral tulip]

Also a dingus move

[outer fiber]

yeah

[pastel stream]

Yea It was but eh

[outer fiber]

no need to sabotage the 2 other people that didn't ask anything

[viral tulip]

I'd call forcing a fail on a deep dive a bigger dingus move than resupply theft

^^

Resupply theft is a dingus misdemeanor, gameplay sabotage is a dingus felony

[little cove]

Depends on context. If, for example, you had 500+ nitra and more caving to go, shrug it off and call down another one.

I've had people bitch at me towards the end of missions, regardless of context, for double dipping and my reply is always the same: surround them with resupplies.

[bright parcel]

I only take resupply if I use iron will when all of us are down and I need to keep myself up

[scarlet willow]

yeah definitely context

for example stret triple fucking dips when we play duos

who does that

[little cove]

Someone who needs 3x the ammo apparently...
||or just wants to flex their massive scout muscles :muscle: :scout: ||

[tawdry quest]

Double dipping can be irritating, but if you ask beforehand your teammates might forgive you for it if you really need it

Ex] Gunner on Escort because the rocks and lasers phases can drain a lot of ammo

And sometimes the gray ammo ticks underneath players' portraits don't tell the full story (Driller showing high ammo despite nearly being out of primary fuel because his drills and C4 are topped off)

I don't mind people double dipping if we have like 300 nitra, either

[thorny geyser]

if someone goes down early in the wave, one person usually has to double dip especially if theyre killing their fill

[bright parcel]

I did solo deep dive like 3 hours after it came out but when I check the deep dives the 3 things aren’t glowing up

So I don’t know if it actually marked them as me doing it because I got the rewards from it but looks like I didn’t do it

[wintry root]

What biome were you in? This week was azure weald. Last week was salt pits with three dreads iirc. Maybe you did that one

[bright parcel]

azure weld

I checked the pins before the deep dive to see the missions too

And it all checked out once I did it

[desert crag]

this weeks EDD was pretty chill

except phase 2 was a mega ammo sink

[wise dirge]

So i'm planning on doing Deep Dives for the first time, is it possible to just do it solo with Bosco or should I avoid doing it solo?

[burnt sandal]

You can do it solo with bosco

[desert crag]

regular deep dives pretty chill solo

EDD gets kinda rough sometimes

[wraith shard]

hi

im really confused, just can decide to play scout or driller

scout is really fun but in team play and effectivity wise feels like not that much ofa great pick instead of driller

i dunno which one should i promote first

any ideas?

[white marten]

@wraith shard
I mean, promote the one that you feel the most comfortable with
I kind of disagree on your point about the scout, I think he's a great pick overall. He lacks means to deal with lots of mobs ( even with the Zhukov ), but he destroys big mobs. And the light that he provides negates 99% of the cheesy ways to die in this game. In the right hands, he almost never dies thanks to the grappling hook.
Overall, I don't think he is the easiest to play, but saying that he is not a good pick is a mistake imo.

It really depends on you and the way that you play

Do you struggle with big waves and want to clean them very quickly ? Promote the driller first.
You want to be the last one standing and protect your team from traps/big mobs while they take care of the trash ? Promote scout first.

I play every class and I did EDD with all of them, there wasn't a moment where I felt like playing a class instead of another meant that much of a difference ( as long as everyone does what they're supposed to do, it's a coop game after all, everyone has to do their job in order for the game to run smoothly )

I hope that helps you in your choice

[feral atlas]

Scout by virtue of simply lacking mob firepower is the least consistent hard carry in the game.

There is no "playstyle" argument to be made. Going scout puts you at the mercy of the competency of your main fraggers. If your engi and gunner are incompetent, you will find it exceptionally difficult to impossible to make up for their lack of performance. Which is why I avoid playing scout on EDDs with people of unknown skill.

Playing engi and gunner allows you far greater leeway in not having to care about the combat skill of the rest of your team.

[celest oasis]

the fact though as scout you give your team a +100% accuracy bonus and you can speed run alot of objectives making missions much quicker solo/team play wise included

[wraith shard]

@celest oasis @feral atlas @white marten thank you all for your time

i will keep them in mind

i was thinking the same with @feral atlas but im kinda new, so as a noob i do not have to rights to make claims xd so ye

[celest oasis]

just play them all 😛

[wraith shard]

yepp i will

but the problem is, i gotta promote something to open the forge and all that stuff and im kinda curious

what lies there

btw if anyone wanna play sometime, im open for invites lol got no friends playing it

[feral atlas]

Most combat happens in close to medium range. The benefit of scout's light is overrated, especially on small caves or linear missions.

And driller speed runs faster with tcf mining.

[white marten]

You're right, he is not the best class to clear mobs or to solo, but "carry" your team,doesn't always mean killing things
Speedrunning mining and objectives, clearing leech, giving light etc is a huge plus.
I totally agree that he's not the best in fights and all, but I just wanted to say that he was not a bad pick by any mean

[feral atlas]

Yes it does.

[celest oasis]

I dunno getting bombarded with web and acid spitters doesnt sound very fun lol

[feral atlas]

Scout, ultimately, is capped by the performance of his teammates.

[celest oasis]

not to mention finding nitra will be a pita in larger caverns

[feral atlas]

I main gunner and engi. Once you have enough time in the game, you know how the game likes to generate nitra.

And hitting the ceiling isn't a problem.

Minigun is more than accurate enough.

[celest oasis]

unless its dense biozone lol

[feral atlas]

As a scout on EDD, if there is any sort of combat heavy mission like escort or salvage, you are only as good as your team's ability to frag properly.

[celest oasis]

would you do with dual class combination on maybe an escort?

[feral atlas]

If your team can't, your revives and support become no more than a delaying tactic.

[celest oasis]

say dual engie or dual gunner

[feral atlas]

Driller/gunner

minigun on the gunner, and tcf epc on the driller

rest is preference

or catered to the mutator and biome

[white marten]

Yup, he needs a team, I totally agree
That kind of makes him " not the best class " if you want, but being the " worst " doesn't mean that he is bad
it's my opinion

[feral atlas]

Point is, if you want to win, and you're confident in your skills, you don't play scout with players of unknown skill.

[white marten]

Absolutely

I only play with my brother

[feral atlas]

Meaning most pubs.

If it's an all legendary 3 team, sure, I might play scout.

But usually you tend to get teams with a couple of <lvl 100s

Which can be almost anything.

[white marten]

We destroy every edd, whatever the class we choose, but we're good at the game so ... it runs smoothly
I wouldn't play scout with people I don't know, just in case

But yea ... without a team that you can count on , scout is meh
But with a good team, he really shines
Let's say I play driller, I destroy waves, my teammate plays scout. Just the fact that I don't even have to bother killing big stuff, makes me more comfortable about not being overwhelmed

But overall I think the class are well balanced and all give a plus to the team . If you're good on your class, you should have no problem winning

[crisp belfry]

I'm level fourty now and I'm still, in my eyes, a super greenbeard. I don't have hazard 5 unlocked, and I haven't completed an EDD before. Personally, I like Scout because if there's an engineer that knows what they are doing, I get to feel like spiderman

[white marten]

Lmao yea, it's pretty satisfying

[dusky spear]

Idk, with axes I’m not really concerned about killing big stuff as driller.

[timber gate]

Hi guys. I'm about to promote my first character gunner. My question is, do i need min max my build for end-game content or every modifications are balanced and i can choose whatever i want ?

[cursive path]

Most of the modifications on each tier are viable. Only one you should avoid in my opinion is hardened rounds because that always ends up on the same tier as hollow point

Also modifications are just the beginning, wait till you get weapon overclocks and try to build around them

[timber gate]

Ok thanks for answer

[wraith shard]

Interesting dialogue. I've been a scout (legendary 3) on missions with relatively new players, who stayed in too long, were all dead, had no nitra, and I've been able to kite around with a grappling hook, collect nitra and aquarqs, deposit, kite around some more, launch the mine head rocket, and stay alive until the dropship hit the ground, then kited right into it. I didn't waste time on rescue once I saw the lack of ability. My team was awful and we still completed the mission. Sure, its rare. A bad team can take down any class. To say scout can't manage to win with a bad team: fallacy.

[floral tusk]

scout is harder for hard carries

[kind bough]

now for the encore we need scout solo carrying drilldozer/salvage

[wraith shard]

True, but not impossible

[floral tusk]

even in a good team things can go wrong and scout is still less usefull for clearing waves

[wraith shard]

HAHAHA! Yeah. no thanks.

[floral tusk]

4p scout team on escort is possible

[wraith shard]

But I bet someone has done it. There is some incredible talent in this game, and if oyu play long enough you will see impossible stuff happen

[kind bough]

no doubt, but there are far more accessible forms of torment

like making OC tracking spreadsheets so I can pinpoint exactly how rude RNG is

(the answer is very)

[thorny geyser]

TLDR: get better as scout

scout can carry

sure, carrying as scout is harder but thats the charm of the class

you have to use mobility to your advantage since you dont have firepower the others have

[sudden aspen]

what do you get for a deep dive stage 2 if you have all the weapon overclocks?

[kind bough]

blank core

which of course is effectively a cosmetic core

then once you get all those the cosmetic cores just give you 120 random crafting materials

not that I would know anything about that, since starting this week my weapon collection will be complete and I will have a very hard time caring about deep dives

[viral tulip]

After I finished OCs suddenly cosmetics started mattering a lot more

Gotta play the cosmetic meta

The cosmeta, if you will

[burnt sandal]

nice one

[south mulch]

Figured I'd give the Deep Dive a go as solo Scout (with Bosco) just to see what I'm in for. Managed to complete it, though in particular the first stage was very very stressful... pretty sure I'm nowhere near ready for the Elite versions :p

[burnt sandal]

Well done still !

Yeah going solo EDD requires you to be already quite comfortable with higher difficulties ^^

they can be very rough and mistakes can be hard to come back from

it depends on the seed though obviously

[south mulch]

Usually still on Haz3, might want to start moving on to Haz4 soon. Not sure if the matrix cores I got from this dive + the weekly are any good though...but that's probably for another channel

and yeah I really didn't like that Shield Disruption stage 1

especially not in combination with Black Box (which although "new" is basically just an Uplink phase from Salvage missions)

[burnt sandal]

What did you get ?

[viscid orchid]

Any quick tips for the EDD this week?

[south mulch]

Lead Storm and Hyper Propellant

[viscid orchid]

Lead Storm is great.

[south mulch]

I don't really play much Gunner so I have absolutely no idea how to evaluate it

[burnt sandal]

they are both good. I don't like Lead Storm at all but that's just me.

I feel like the downsides are way too harsh for what it gives 🤷‍♂️

[viscid orchid]

Obv it kills your movement so you need to be creative with your zip lines for combat but the damage is nice.

[prisma junco]

eh it's pretty negligible if you adjust your playstyle

[viscid orchid]

Yeh.

[prisma junco]

the only thing I miss with it is not being able to stun lock Wardens

[burnt sandal]

I'm not going to start a debate about it so let's move on.

[feral atlas]

Leadstorm is situational

I would not main it.

[desert crag]

leadstorm's super clutch for phase 2 of EDD this week

since the whole thing is a mega ammo sink

[burnt sandal]

tbh I wouldn't pick it against dread + mactera plague

but if you managed, well done

[desert crag]

what was your preferred loadout for it? just wondering

[viral tulip]

I ran 21322 A Little More Oomph + magic war crimes bulldog and was happy with how that went

Or maybe 22322?

Doesn't really matter

[viscid orchid]

31312

[desert crag]

and OC?

[viscid orchid]

Lead Storm.

[desert crag]

yeahhh boi

[viscid orchid]

I like to run Aggro Vent on Haz4. lol

But that isnt DD.

[burnt sandal]

For minigun ?

[desert crag]

either gun for this week's EDD

might need to run it again for another friend

[burnt sandal]

not a fan of the AC with dreads and mactera so I would definitely go with the minigun. I use Exhaust Vectoring 32112

[thorny geyser]

I usually use a little more oomph for take-all-comers loadout for minigun

[granite lantern]

pain

i like to run aggro vent in any hazard but it's just too weak at times :(

i'm still waiting for a buff to it

[past drum]

how can I find oil for the drilldozer?

on escort duty

[vale falcon]

its the big blue ore chonks on the walls, use the 2 canisters to mine them

(canisters at the back of doretta)

[past drum]

thanks

[burnt sandal]

A few advices I can give you to help with the game :

1. listen to what mission control guy is saying, and listen to what your dwarves are saying.
2. You can use ctrl to ping stuff. It will give info to you and your team
3. You should totally read the Miner's Manual. You can find it in the escape menu, in the top left corner. ^^

Enjoy the game

[past drum]

yea I tabbed out for a sec and my friends didnt hear it either

thanks though

I just realised this is the wrong chat sorry for that

[burnt sandal]

It's okay, it's good you realised it 👍

[burnt sandal]

#welcome-and-rules to check out the rules.

[plain yoke]

My friend group and I just came back to deeprock after a few months, we couldnt finish last weeks elite dive (azure weald with shield disrupt 1st then lethal enemies 2nd), was that a harder one or are we just really rusty?

[burnt sandal]

It was fairly hard. Not too easy but not incredibly hard either. It's definitively on the harder side though.

If you came back and you're all rusty, it would make sense you have trouble adjusting to it, especially after the new enemies the last update added.

New biomes too but that's less impactful tbh

[half finch]

so, in your opinion, whats the main job of a scout, ina team, in a deep dive/elite deep dive?
light?
i like playing scout a lot, but feeling useful on a salvage mission on deep dive is kinda difficult :P

[kind bough]

light, inhale nitra, disable priority targets, high-speed paramedic, kite bulks

get clutch freezes when the slashers get angry

[burnt sandal]

Lighting up caves, mining hard to reach minerals, killing high priority targets, staying alive.

[half finch]

been getting highest mined pretty consistently, i was wondeirng iof theres more to it, so ye

isee, thanks lads

[kind bough]

you also have an enormous advantage if an objective you need to grab is high up and inconvenient

funky mini mule leg generation, aquarqs, etc

driller and engineer don't go places fast and ziplines are deathtraps if macteras decide they hate you

plus it requires resources to do those things

scout can just grapple up and throw it down to his buddies, bingo bango bongo

of course god help scout if he needs to carry something UP to something else

[half finch]

ye i mean in this weeks deep dive ive gotten quite a few eggs from ceilings, the problem is mostly just about killing things
even with good single target you suck against swarms of anything

[kind bough]

correct

which is why I do not like playing scout in EDD unless it's a 4-dwarf party

[half finch]

i only do deep dives in 4 stacks tbf

[kind bough]

lol

[burnt sandal]

yeah you shouldn't be clearing swarms anyway 😄

[kind bough]

I almost always do them in duo because imagine having more than 1 friend who isn't too lazy to promote

[half finch]

i used to / do still play a lot of driller cause he can kinda fill literally any role

[burnt sandal]

just kill anything that's a spitter, a mactera or a praetorian/warden

[half finch]

wtf lol

[half finch]

so stuff on ceilings and other annoying ones, i see

[kind bough]

I had like 8 friends that bought this game!

how do I only have one friend to do EDD with

[half finch]

are they like 25 and cant be arsed?

[outer fiber]

@kind bough almost same, 5 friend bought the game, only 1 I do every EDD with, poggers

I never did a single EDD in full stack

despite I would love to

but I don't want to leave my friend

and he doesn't want to play with randos

so that's kinda pepehands

there are some people in this discord I would love to play with

but since my friend only play with people he knows, that's not possible

unless I do EDD multiple times per week

which isn't very good for my own sanity

owo

[granite lantern]

@outer fiber wanna play with me and @scarlet willow on this weeks edd using dogshit builds

we could maybe do that

[shrewd bane]

I have 3 friends bought in, but only I play the game...maybe a little too much. Discord is my go to for EDD help, maybe I'll find new friends, too :)

[scarlet willow]

pog

[granite lantern]

speights we need a

4 damage stubby guy on the team

[scarlet willow]

lmao

the french i learned in school might finally become useful

[outer fiber]

POG

wait what

[scarlet willow]

are you french

[outer fiber]

me playing normally would be like one of you playing shit build

aye

[scarlet willow]

what character would you play if you joined us

you can pick anyone

[outer fiber]

I don't plan to play multiple EDDs tho

so I ain't joining

thanks for the offer though owo

[scarlet willow]

understandable

stret is a masochist

[granite lantern]

this but unironically

[outer fiber]

that's a good thing I play fat boy then

[scarlet willow]

how do you feel about speedruns

[outer fiber]

I ain't interested

D:

[fresh escarp]

Im running the EDD solo what's a good class for it?

[scarlet willow]

anybody

[fresh escarp]

Hmmm...

Might run Fire Gunner

[granite lantern]

driller and engi are best if you ask me

scout has too poor combat by himself and gunner has too poor mobility

but gunner is still pretty good

[sudden void]

As long as you tip lloyd you win

[outer fiber]

scout it really depends if you have a zone to defend or not tbh, you could theorically always avoid combat with capped enemies chasing you endlessly

just killing those macteras to make grunts spawn instead

[granite lantern]

I think clearing bugs is still better

I never found " just stall everything " any optimal as far as being productive goes. Though now that i think of it i guess you could get it to work pretty nicely on escort refining after setting up pipelines. Specially if you do it in a clever way to delay bugs coming to it as you fix them

I'd just rather whip out the IFGs and cryos and get everything dealt with

[outer fiber]

You meam refineries?

[granite lantern]

Oops yea i mean refineries

[warped juniper]

what if instead of doing everything underground the pipeline mission were above ground......

surface exterminations

random bosses on the surface

hold on team you have a huge wave coming in stand by....

wait...

its one entity.

emerges a great beast

[vale falcon]

Sorry mate, you aren’t the first one to think about that by a long shot #suggestions-regulars

[granite lantern]

this already exists too

there are unreasonably rare dreadnought swarms

[scarlet willow]

gunner is good cause shield

going to take a while though

scout is a little painful during swarms

but mobility for getting objectives done fast make up for it

[feral atlas]

And then you get a black box or escort

And suddenly your mobility means nothing

Scout has the most unique fail conditions in the game

So the longer the mission, the more chances he encounters an edge case scenario that dunks on his kit

[wooden pier]

I have been away a year, and as such am struggling with the elite deep dives. Am I 'missing out' on anything by not doing them? The normal deep dives I find manageable. I just feel like a failure and I am missing out on content by not doing the EDD, then I get worked up and quit the game when I fail..

[scarlet willow]

black box usually isnt so bad tbh

cryos help a lot

escort is a pain though

definitely wouldnt recommend scout if there is escort and you arent trying to speedrun

[burnt sandal]

the EDD gives the same reward than the DD (blank core, weapon overclock, cosmetic core), you're not really missing out on anything besides the challenge. ^^

[wooden pier]

Yeah ok so I guess I would just acquire these items a little slower week to week. Thank You

[odd rover]

A third of your cores, pretty much.

Not a bad idea to at least try and beat the first two stages, but if Haz 5 is really not your thing then don't bother. You probably won't be in desperate need of OCs anyway.

[wooden pier]

I definitely intend on revisiting the EDDs and Haz 5 content in the future, I am just rusty atm. I am completing most Haz 4s without too much of an issue in pub lobbies

[primal cove]

anyone tryna run an elite deep dive? got a driller and gunner tryna run it

if so, slide

[wooden pier]

Side question, if I complete the first or second mission of an EDD do I get those rewards? Are the rewards always associated with a certain level? Ie. Blank core is always first mission etc?

[burnt sandal]

yeah you do

[odd rover]

Yes. Blank for first stage, weapon OC for second stage.

[wooden pier]

Ok thanks for your help guys.

[viral tulip]

Mactera plague on the last stage of the regular DD was actually a bit of a treat

Called in a resupply or two all for myself so I could run around and snowball each and every one of those idiots

[kind bough]

yeah mactera plague can be an unexpected reprieve once you learn to play around it

i'd certainly rather take macteras over lethal enemies or low oxygen

though they are getting a bit spicy again now that the trijaws are released

and brundles are also there I guess

I see people talking a hot game about brundles being the first step in making armor break relevant and I just don't see it

they're incredibly uncommon and it feels like they don't...do anything half the time?

[orchid estuary]

So uh, i only did my first deep dive yesterday and, do i only get the rewards from it once a week?

[vale falcon]

Yep, it’s once per week for both the edd and dd

[viral tulip]

In EDDs mactera plague can be a real stinker, but on the last stage of the regular DD when you've got effectively infinite nitra on a lower haz and the right build for the job it's a pretty fun playground

[sacred knoll]

1:22:19 EDD

DIED AT GODDAMN COUNTDOWN WHEN DROP POD WAS ABOUT TO OPEN

pain

Complete pain

Im destroyed

Im not doing this again

Oh, yeah, I also went solo

[kind bough]

I've had that happen before, not fun

though honestly if I die anywhere in the third mission I'm way too lazy to do another attempt

[crimson wren]

Hey guys, should I go for HP or hardened rounds on the deepcore ?

Feels like hardened might be more consistent but idk

[robust sedge]

Scout's primaries are all about weakpoint damage and status effects or certain breakpoints. If I take armour breaking it's typically on my shotty

[kind bough]

I meant in general

I should really wean myself off liking having a blue name

so people will stop assuming I only play scout

[crimson wren]

p sure they were talking to me

[real kiln]

So i just unlocked deep dives finally. Can i just jump straight in or is there something i should do first ?

[cloud monolith]

@real kiln Doesnt hurt to try.

[cobalt hemlock]

by the time you unlock them you should be ready for them yeah

[viral tulip]

If you're comfortable with haz 3 you'll have no problem with normal DDs

[real kiln]

awesome thanks

[worthy quest]

urgh

why am i so bad at edds

i can't even do the first stage anymore

[wraith shard]

Don't feel bad, Soapy. I just did EDD with a full team, and I died so many times, I might as well sew a handle on my armor so it will be easier for the team to carry me. The situational awareness required is very high, so is knowing exactly what your weapons are capable of, so is knowing the map, so is a competent team.

[worthy quest]

Right

Maybe elemental insulation will help what with all the mushrooms everywhere

but thanks for consoling me

[robust sedge]

Anyone doing deep dives?

[stark otter]

Yeah.

[hidden kayak]

Well I just had a terrible experience

Did my first ever deep dive and it went swimmingly, got the Deep for Speed achievement and then right before the rewards screen my computer crashed

[wraith shard]

That sucks

[hidden kayak]

Then, after rebooting the computer, it started me in the tutorial mission and when I went to reupload my local game files it failed and I lost all progress I've made over the past two years

[bright parcel]

@hidden kayak

Go to settings

Did you not already try the reload save file option

esc > options > restore save

Happens to me sometimes

I just restore save

[hidden kayak]

That worked, sort of. I lost all progress for that deep dive but retained everything from before.
Thank you very much!!

[bright parcel]

Np

[fringe sparrow]

nearly got screwed on a solo deep dive when I had to deal with Dreadnought Twins and a swarm simultaneously, hardest fight so far.

[gloomy herald]

twins do seem super tanky relative to the other dread variants

probably just because my aim is trash and they move all over the place

[bright parcel]

Twins have no weakpoints

And can heal

So yea tanky af

[gloomy herald]

is the heal interruptable

none of the jobs i play really have stun

[bright parcel]

No

Can’t interrupt

When they do that I usually either resup or rez downed dwarfs

[gloomy herald]

fair

[vale falcon]

its not a heal, they share their health between eachother

[granite lantern]

they do heal

the one that previously had less gains more than the other one loses

[noble flower]

do deep dives scale in difficulty based on person

like would it be easier in terms of enemies if I went solo vs with 3 others

[bright parcel]

Yes

Damage you take scales based on amount of people

https://deeprockgalactic.gamepedia.com/Difficulty_Scaling#Resistance_Scaling

Along with other factors

[noble flower]

Alright, I was wondering how feasible it was to solo an EDD or regular deep dive

[granite lantern]

@scarlet willow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662538876241575968/817929029821792296/20210306_221747.jpg

[scarlet willow]

im running hipster he was running super cooling

lmao

[granite lantern]

horribly slow but it was fun

I totally didnt die nearly 10 times :)))

[scarlet willow]

what he said

[burnt sandal]

very feasible depending on your skill level

[noble flower]

do bosco revives reset on each mission?

oka they do

[noble flower]

ayyyyy I did it

(solo'd the EDD)

[eager oxide]

The EDD wrecked me.

[knotty elm]

Just lost to normal deep dive second stage. We had a swarm spawn during us killing the twins. I guess you gotta wait until a swarm just ends to break eggs... they shouldn’t be able to spawn a swarm during dreadnoughts reee

[sage wraith]

(Driller) Just completed my first EDD. First trip through was a nightmare. BET-C accidentally bombed the Dreadnought Cocoon before we were ready, and my Cryo build was doing jack for crap. Second time through, I went Sticky-Flames and kicked ass.

[burnt sandal]

Completed the solo EDD this week and holy molly, the layout was so annoying and the objectives were so badly placed.

outside of that it was alright

[warped pollen]

black boxes 😦

[dusty junco]

game is going fine

final level

mactera plague

what have i done to deserve this god

never running any other grenade other than cryo

[viral crater]

Are deep divr cores set every week or are thry all random?

[orchid estuary]

I'm pretty sure they are set

[odd rover]

Random if you have it, though

[wraith shard]

Cryo is about as good as it gets for stopping enemies, especially in an EDD, but I find my kill count alot higher with flame thrower. With cryo I stop them in their tracks and any other competent shooter finishes them off, but also gets the credit for the kill. So yeah, sticky flames is pretty awesome. I've tried alot of different builds for cryo and still end up with a lower kill count than other players. I'm sure there are smarter players who know the secret around this.

[sage wraith]

Kill count is one thing, but it’s not super important. Our strategy for surviving revolved around Bunkering for Egg Collection and Drop Pod Maintenance; that’s where Sticky Flames became critical to keep all unwanted guests outside of our foxhole.

[wraith shard]

True. We all have numbers we like to see, but yes, the game play is more important. When I'm driiler I like a balance between kills and mining score, when I'm scout I prefer higher mineral score, etc. You know how it is.

[granite lantern]

wym?

if you mean as in each week having the same cores for everyone else, then no they're random

[runic cedar]

Hi everyone, looking to get into my first deep dive and i'm trying to understand how long to budget timewise for the run. (i have 2 small kids so need to be able to coordinate the time). Just looking for some estimates.

[viral crater]

Thx

[granite lantern]

depends a lot on how good your team is

generally most (new) players should plan to last at least 1 hour, upwards to one in a half

It's best to get a find ammount of time to play it and just take it slow with no hurry

[runic cedar]

ok so look to budget about 2hrs for my first couple

[granite lantern]

that works

how long do your haz 3 missions usually last

[runic cedar]

anywhere between 25-50 minutes but i really have just run solo so far.

[granite lantern]

oh if its solo you can freely pause the game

consider playing coop its really fun

but yeah uh i assume your deep dive levels should be beetwen 20 and 40 minutes

[runic cedar]

looking to get into coop play. new here on discord. so always looking to find some fellow dwarves 🙂

ok. are the deep dives doable solo?

[granite lantern]

just match up with randos

usually they're ok

[runic cedar]

just depend on haz level i assume?

[granite lantern]

you may get a lot of clueless people unless you queue for h4 / h5 though

yes

i only play h5 and i rarely ever get bad teammates

[runic cedar]

cool, i've done a few h4 solo i get really choosy on those based on the mission objectives

[granite lantern]

oh

you may want to look at this week's deep dive objs then

and yeah they are very doable solo

..in fact i think edd solo is easier than coop edd if i'm not going for speed

[runic cedar]

makes sense right, the higher the level, the more challenge and therefor the better candidates (more knowledgeable)

cool thanks. Separate question: are the numbers of enemies scaled depending on party size?

[granite lantern]

here b e the objectives

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662538876241575968/818199213607354368/unknown.png

[granite lantern]

yes, on every mission

actually thats not all, as far as deep dives go

level, ore and prespawned enemy generation differs too

for example playing with teammates may give you extra spitballers or a breeder, while in solo they wouldnt be present

it doesn't necessarily only get harder though

for example, back a few weeks ago an EDD would have a betc if you were duo, but not if you were trio / full

[runic cedar]

cool, thanks i figured it was the case, otherwise the challenge isn't quite there

[granite lantern]

i think it still is

the generally bigger enemy spawns compensate a lot more than pre spawned enemies

[runic cedar]

ahh

[granite lantern]

specially if your team is good because you can delete pre spawned tanks pretty fast

[runic cedar]

gotcha so the swarms is where the real difference is made

[granite lantern]

well not necessarily swarms

random enemy spawns outside of swarms can get really painful

specially in point extraction

even moreso if you're solo

there are also things like solo escort having few beamers and few floating rocks, but anything bigger than that having tons

[runic cedar]

ahh yeah i get 2 beamers at a time on solo

i can only imagine getting 4+

[granite lantern]

i think team usually has like what

5-7 beamers?

i don't pay a lot of attention lol

[runic cedar]

woah. lol yeah at that point it's just "take out the closest one"

[granite lantern]

normally proximity isnt much of a problem

there are tools you can use to make it way easier

like scout hook, bonus points for engi throwing platforms at the beamers

engi can explode the tip of beamers with PGL

gunner can destroy them with bulldog

[runic cedar]

what? i thought you had to take 'em out with the pickaxe...clearly not the most knowledgeable here lol

:mindblown:

[granite lantern]

some tools can carve terrain

@runic cedar heres an example

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662538876241575968/818201471845007360/fatboymining.mp4

..oh, i forgot to crop the video

only watch the first 5 seconds lol

[runic cedar]

haha that's awesome but you need to have the overclock for it right?

[granite lantern]

yeah

it carves way less without it lol

generally takes like 2 nades to extract an egg or ore on the wall

its extra good when there are multiple together

[runic cedar]

sweet!

thanks a ton for your help!

[outer fiber]

fat boy to dig a pearl 5head

[little radish]

this week's EDD was my first stab at EDDs

good god

stage 2 was horrible

my squad nd i couldnt plow thru because the mactera plague kept slowing us down

complete ammo sink

[random path]

it do be like that

this edd definitely one of the less fun ones they've done

[outer fiber]

the fun metric is subjective

[lusty gorge]

I mean, this deep dive took 3 attempts but I enjoyed it

Worst for me was the first stage

[desert crag]

this week's EDD was pretty easy other than the slime all over the floor

[lusty gorge]

Hate shield disruption

Yeah that got me killed a lot with the mactera plague

[odd rover]

Second stage of EDD is the hardest for sure, but you can handle it w/ good builds for annihilating flying enemies.
Third stage of EDD is sort of hard imo, but most of it is just the snowball potential with all of the leeches at entry.

[lusty gorge]

Third stage was a sigh of relief after killing leeches

1st and 2nd stage were the worst

I am not quite sure how much I like the idea of a bunch of macteras spawning, shooting you really fast due to difficulty, and the damage they do

Maybe I need to git gud but I find it partly unfair

[desert crag]

just depends on how good your gunner is

and how well you hug your gunner

if you have a bad gunner who is not good at shield timing, you're gonna fail

[lusty gorge]

Yeah that was the only solution I had while playing

Gunner didn't do it much

He managed to save us once but otherwise it was dodging with dash skill

Seems a bit unfair still... I dunno

Perhaps there's a strat I don't know to counter it other than gunner

[random path]

yeah it took 3 attempts to beat it with groups of random people

the 3rd group all apparently knew how to play well i guess

it was very lax compared to the first 2 attempts

[lusty gorge]

I did three attempts with the same group

It was an enjoyable trial and error

In the end we succeeded from our really crappy improvised strategies lol

Very fun

[graceful needle]

Mactera swarm stage was really scary, though any EDD in fungus bogs with all that view obstructing foliage is big spook. Was a great day to be a TCF driller, insta popping entire non-goo bomber mactera swarms with 3-4 solid charge shots.

[hot gazelle]

I just managed the EDD with a great team all on voice comms

and wow, it was hard

[exotic flax]

Anyone else felt this week's EDD was particularly evil?

we lost at the last stage

completely swarmed

[hot gazelle]

Last stage was pretty rough.

Spawn pool seemed to be all glyphids

Plus goo bombers

[exotic flax]

and yeah we somehow pulled through the second one with practically zero ammo and where like hmm salvage? volatile guts? its not that bad

[hot gazelle]

Big waves, and a lot of spitters

[exotic flax]

*** never have i ever before regretted my words any more ***

i could not see where i was going from all the bugs

[hot gazelle]

Stage 1 is just knowing not to fight in the egg room.

Stage 2 is awful. Mactera Plague is such a hard warning, and I think BET-C does more harm than good because both times we tried it she triggered the second cocoon.

The second cocoon room is horrible; two breeders, two or three brood nexuses, and a ceiling full of hentai

[exotic flax]

We actually pulled stage one in the egg room by making a massive hole using mining satchels

worked wonders id highly recommend

[hot gazelle]

The first couple of times I did stage 1 we fought in the spawn room. The last time we just bunkered.

It worked ok; I don't normally like bunkering but we got away with it.

[exotic flax]

Stage two has a trap too

[graceful needle]

Having Driller + Engi set up the spawn room well in that stage made it a breeze. Egg rooms are death traps.

[exotic flax]

one of the dirt walls at the start was a brood thing and goo

[hot gazelle]

You mean when you try to leave the start room and immediately find yourself standing in goo, getting shat on by a goo bomber, next to a brood nexus? Yes.

We found that

[exotic flax]

yeah

that got me pretty well

in stage 3 the ceiling has like 8 holes in the main room

[hot gazelle]

We got someone sidegrabbed by a leech there

Managed to claw it back thanks to iron will + vampire

[exotic flax]

same exact thing happened to us

[graceful needle]

Same. Gunner got grabbed nearly fully horizontally lol

[exotic flax]

when you first enter the room mf leech pulls a 90 degree grab

[hot gazelle]

I ran out of ammo, called a resupply pod, got swarmed, ran away and died. Scout came running for me and died right on top of me. I iron willed up, threw all my axes wildly, picked up the scout and was somehow still alive afterwards

[exotic flax]

we still died doing the uplink though

easily the hardest EDD ive done

[hot gazelle]

Yeah. I got totally bullied by the twins

[exotic flax]

and it also made me develop hatred towards fungus

[hot gazelle]

Didn't help that I was running cryo cannon and basically couldn't damage them

[exotic flax]

we actually had a much easier time with the twins than the default one

yeah i feel that man

i was also running cryo

[hot gazelle]

We'd have been ok but BET-C triggered the cocoon with a stray shot

[exotic flax]

that happened with the first cocoon for us

[hot gazelle]

I was MVP for killing mactera, though. Snowball is hilarious

[exotic flax]

we where NOT prepared at all

[hot gazelle]

Mactera wave comes in, crashing sound, mactera wave is gone

[exotic flax]

we actually almost abandoned stage two because we ran out of ammo and nitra but we found some last second thankfully

[outer fiber]

macteria plague is hilarious, you do your things when suddenly you hear noises, you look back, 10 macteras with brundles and trijaws KEKW

the air army

[hot gazelle]

Hoxxes air force

[outer fiber]

literally

[hot gazelle]

Brundles are so tanky

I didn't really respect them until today

[outer fiber]

wdym you didn't respect them

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[exotic flax]

i hate goo bombers with a passion

[outer fiber]

tbh engi is the class that has the most trouble with them I believe

[exotic flax]

i hate them because they need so much cryo cannon ammo to kill

such hogs

[outer fiber]

pog

[exotic flax]

and at the same time they make you super slow

[bright parcel]

Already half week?

damn

[hot gazelle]

Honestly, goo bombers seem to die faster to the EPC than to the cryo cannon

Also, I learned today that web and acid spitters have much higher freeze resistance than their health pool would suggest

On a hazard level where standing still is death, the one enemy that forces you to stand still is always going to be scary.

[graceful needle]

Yup. Unless you're running cold radiance and you're within range, or no one else is focusing it, its probably not worth using cryo against em.

[wintry cairn]

yeah fastest way to deal with bombers is ER or HP

[shadow jolt]

Hey im not promoted yet, whats deep dive all about?

What is it?

Is it better than normal missions?

[viral tulip]

It's 3 missions back-to-back with two primary objectives each instead of primary+secondary

With nitra, health, and ammo carrying over between each one

So you might do a point extraction where you have to collect 7 aquarks and 150 morkite, then a salvage mission where you also need to collect 2 eggs, etc.

[burnt sandal]

Also the difficulty is fixed and each mission gets harder as you progress.
Regular Deep Dives are hazard 3, 3.5, 3.5
Elite Deep Dives are hazard 4.5, 5, 5.5

Each of those missions also have a higher chance to have a random warning (either positive or negative, or both)

[shadow jolt]

Cheers

that sounds like fun

are the objectives the same as normal missions or are there any deep dive exclusive ones?

[burnt sandal]

There are some that are exclusive to it (and by that, I mean only one)

Black box

Basically it's the same thing as standing in the green zone in the salvage operation, except it's only one time and there's nothing else you need to do besides repairing it and charging it fully.

[scarlet willow]

i believe you can fail BB too

and not lose the mission

[burnt sandal]

I'm not sure about that so I can't say

[shadow jolt]

sound found

fun*

[hard oak]

if it was meant to be a private game, shut down the public room and make it a private room!!!!

really fucking annoying!

[fringe kettle]

that's the default kick reason

[outer fiber]

@hard oak look, it happens to everyone to make this mistake and it will happen to you too when you will host

at least you didn't lose time if you were kicked directly

and if you want to know why it happens : the game somehow reset your password every new mission you select after completing one

and for the deep dives : it's set to public by default

[outer fiber]

the purpose of deep dives is absolutely not to replace normal missions : you don't have machine events, and you don't have loot crates/lost helmets
deep dives gives you weekly rewards and that's why you do them

[burnt sandal]

And you don't have minerals for upgrades either

(the only exception being Huuli hoarders sometimes spawning in them)

[shadow jolt]

Ah ok

they still sound like a fun challendge tho

[outer fiber]

aye

[lusty barn]

First stage of elite deep dive is shield disruption with literally one red sugar on the entire map, if I got it right

interesting

[shadow jolt]

holy shit

yea thank god i like to go driller melee builds

[burnt sandal]

Huh

Not advised 😄

[shadow jolt]

Vampire?

Damaging drills?

Axes?

'see you in hell'?

[burnt sandal]

Going melee in haz 4.5 and beyond is not a good idea

[viral tulip]

Coward

[shadow jolt]

^

[burnt sandal]

but if you can pull it off, congrats

[viral tulip]

It's a tool, not a catchall

But it's totally viable

[shadow jolt]

add in the cryo cannon and your good

or does that violet the idea of a melee build?

[viral tulip]

Nah, Cryo's essential

[shadow jolt]

Well shit, ive been playing the hard one then XD

[viral tulip]

Really all you need (and all I use) are cryo + vampire + barbed drills

[burnt sandal]

lmao

[shadow jolt]

I never use primary

[viral tulip]

Uhhh

[shadow jolt]

when i played melee onnly

[viral tulip]

Should probably start

[shadow jolt]

haha yea

should be fun on haz 5 without promotions

[viral tulip]

Cryo is x3 damage, and it works on drills

Haz 5 melee without cryo will just kill you

Don't pass go, don't collect 5hp

[shadow jolt]

Oh god, i love being surrounded by enemies with my drills out while head banging it to 'BFG'

the dream

yea im doing haz 5 now with melee

Shame i cant get overclocks for drills : (

[outer fiber]

there is no problem with melee if you're cryo

but in this edd there are twins so that's another story

[thorny spoke]

whats different in deep dive and deep dive elite?

[burnt sandal]

The difficulty and the seed

[thorny spoke]

seed?

[burnt sandal]

The biome and the mission types if you prefer

[thorny spoke]

obviously thats different

do you get anything ddifferent?

like what u getg

[outer fiber]

same rewards

[thorny spoke]

bruh

so whats the point of doing it

it just harder

[outer fiber]

doubling the weekly deep dive rewards you get

[burnt sandal]

And the challenge yeah

[thorny spoke]

wdym

[scarlet willow]

the rewards are 1 time only

but the dd and edd are separate

if you repeat DD you dont get more cores

but if you do DD and then EDD

you get cores from both

[burnt sandal]

Same set of rewards but two sets total, each one tied to each kind of Deep Dive.

[thorny spoke]

what about again?

[scarlet willow]

1 time only

per dive

per week

[thorny spoke]

so only do a dd and edd once a week?

[outer fiber]

yes

[real kiln]

do you get better reward the faster you do a deep dive ?

[bright parcel]

No

[merry monolith]

lol

I died 4 times in this last EDD run

still literally 10x less than the rest of the team

man its not even tuesday whats up with the EDD runners for this deep dive?

[cobalt hemlock]

what region are you

it's not exactly peak gaming hours in NA/EU right now

[inland nexus]

too late in NA, too early in EU

[hallow forge]

Modifiers and objectives for elite this week?

[inland sandal]

Can someone please say what the missions are in this deep dive 🙂 ?

[burnt sandal]

check pinned message

[hallow forge]

Ah its on pinned, thank you

have a good day

[polar oasis]

Mining egg hunt elimination i think

[burnt sandal]

you too

Nevermind that, both are the same, it got updated

[narrow nexus]

it really be like that

my team died like atleast 20 per person

[celest oasis]

the edd this week is savage lol

nearly ran out of nitra mission 2

[merry monolith]

I think people generally die more with a mission one shield disruption

cause people don't have extra nitra so they don't top off + if everyone downs you don't have to restart much

people aren't very good at fighting betsy or classic dread either

And I guess the last one even fairly careful people are getting picked off by leeches due to the high concentration of HVTs

[cobalt hemlock]

yeah i think people are still figuring out the improved classic dread

[polar oasis]

Maybe im wrong but the classic dread acting a little bit similar like the detonator

Someone in the team gain MUCH more focus than others.

[supple quarry]

I had the feeling that the og dread seams to most of the time, to really love a specific dwarf 😄
I mean it's fine at least you know who is gonna be the lure in the fight :p

[outer fiber]

mission 1 gives you tons of nitra you can all spend on 2, and you regain a lot on mission 3 so it's fine

[celest oasis]

guess I had a noob team 😛

[outer fiber]

gotta carry everyone with your skills !

[shadow shoal]

This weeks normal Deep Dive was my first, and it was very enjoyable! Did it as scout with an engi friend, got it done in about 30 minutes

[desert crag]

in our run we spent all the nitra on stage 2 and entered 3 with like 10 nitra + 75% ammo

but there was a lot of nitra early phase 3 so it was fine

EDD that is

[fresh escarp]

I got mine down sub 30 thanks to the fact i had a good pub sout

Scout*

[pallid knot]

anyone running elite deep dive

[fresh escarp]

@pallid knot you on Xbox?

[solemn warren]

Who solos DD's?

[eternal kindle]

I do

[solemn warren]

I am gonna solo it once I get to level 25

Normal DD not Elite

[eternal kindle]

ya. i assumed as much

[solemn warren]

I don't play DRG for difficulty alone

Love the enviroments y'know

[eternal kindle]

ya. its fun,and pretty,and humuorous enough. but i just dont like bothering with random people I dont know. so thats why I solo my DD

[solemn shale]

i solo dd

and when i dont my teammates quit on me because i dont waitm on them

i mine 6 eggs and i build blackbox while they busy mining gold

sure hope management dont pay them as much

[little radish]

mining gold during DD???

[odd comet]

It's fine during normal DD

Mining gold in an EDD is a bit iffy though

[grand juniper]

on what day does deep dive reset?

[scarlet willow]

thursday

it depends where you live though

2 days from now

[grand juniper]

oh okay thanks :D

[onyx dawn]

so holy shit the Dreadnaught in the EDD was more then 5X harder when I tried it with a friend rather than solo. Everything about it from its speed to the radius of its slam seemed to double

[odd rover]

Solo nerfs the shit out of dreads

Normally, their ground pound happens in just under a second and you need to react.
Solo, you see them start the animation, you go make a sandwich, post something on Reddit, and then move out of the way and you're fine.

[onyx dawn]

so pretty much full party or solo with EDD if Elimination is involved

cause I do mostly haz 5 and the standard eliminations werent near what that seemed to be (which should be base haz 5 as 2nd stage(

[scarlet willow]

if you want to have the easiest time possible duos is the best

duos has the best scaling with enemies barely changing how it is in solo

[plush dust]

dreadnought isnt too bad except for when the arbalest spams going underground to be immune

[fresh shell]

anyone else accidentally trigger the dread and bet-c at the same time?

gg

[plush dust]

So if you do the regular and elite deep dive you get one blank core and two randos.

[burnt sandal]

2 blank cores, 2 weapon overclocks and 2 cosmetic core

[outer fiber]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/m0r1p3/and_at_that_moment_i_knew_i_fucked_up/ this is hilarious

this EDD's 2nd stage in a nutshell

mactera plague really is something

[scarlet willow]

the funniest part is

this dude is starting the dread with 0 BC ammo

and like 60 stubby ammo

madman

[outer fiber]

lmao

[woven thunder]

ROCK AND STONE!

[plush dust]

@burnt sandal I did the normal and elite and only got 1 blank core

Not 2

[outer fiber]

1 blank from each

= 2

[scarlet willow]

are you sure you didnt just use one in between or something

[midnight crystal]

Had a driller blow up the dreadnought egg with C4 before anybody was ready and cause the whole team to get wiped how is your day going?

[plush dust]

I did both missions one after another and no machine events.

Blank cores aren't used when forging rite

[scarlet willow]

pretty good nathan thanks for asking

nope

[plush dust]

I'll check again when I come back

So the only difference between the normal and elite dives are difficulty

[burnt sandal]

yeah

[outer fiber]

does that even damage the dread ?

good btw

[scarlet willow]

it does not

its pretty useful though on like twins

if the twins room sucks

plant c4 go to spawn

and then blow it up

5Head

[wraith shard]

Anyone else find Spinning Death for the Breech Cutter extremely helpful in Deep dives?

[plush dust]

Didn't feel much of a change on difficulty except for the dreadnought memery and 50 mactera at drop pod spawn on stage 3

[wraith shard]

Spinning Death OC is a godsend imo against giant mactera swarms like that

[plush dust]

The only mactera that are annoying for me are the tri jaws which can fire in different directions

[outer fiber]

are you sure you didn't do just 2 DD

because the difficulty between the two is day and night

[plush dust]

I'll check the deep dive terminal later afk atm

Or mobile

[midnight crystal]

No it does not, just hatches em

[plush dust]

@outer fiber you rite, i must have joined the wrong deep dive

[plush dust]

rip engineer u were not fast at all

[plush dust]

shield disruption uggg

[midnight crystal]

Took a while but I finally managed to pass the Elite Deep Dive with the real MVP being our engineer being an absolute badass on a ping of over 400

[thorny geyser]

mactera plague with addition of trijaws and brundles got a whole lot more lethal

scout with m1k and good eye got a whole lot more valuable

[midnight crystal]

True indeed

[soft patio]

H

[quartz badge]

We managed to lure bet-c away from the dreadnought egg, but the other egg (twins) got triggered by a mactera when we just arrived and were close to out of ammo. we made it anyway fortunately 🙂

[lyric schooner]

can someone carry me through this weeks EDD? 😄

just launched a lobby

: )

[dull folio]

say can I just intentionally solo EDD first stage for blank core then prematurely give up so I can get 3 cores per week

not confident enough for EDD in general personally

[little cove]

Yeah that would work for that.

[dull folio]

nice, thanks

[neat timber]

yo, can anyone tell me how teh speedrunners are getting their screenshots like that?

[sleek verge]

You uh

Screenshot at mission end

You can snip with win+shift+s to snip or just screenshot

[calm sequoia]

I have a burning question:

If the thrusters on the drop pod are located at the top then how can they retrieve the dwarves?

It just levitates lol

[onyx agate]

Karl

[viral tulip]

They run the thrusters in reverse

[frosty vapor]

ctrl alt prt scr will just screenshot whatever ur tabbed into

[pastel wasp]

Eh i use it as a measure of how well I'm doing. If i can afford to mine the gold, I'm playing well

It's like a heist. Any heist you can walk away from is a success.

Some teams trip the silent alarm and run away as soon as the sirens start.

The good teams break open the vault and escape with all of the gold

[wintry bobcat]

Do elite deep dives give the same rewards as regular ones?

If so, what's the point of doing an elite deep dive?

[viral tulip]

You can only get the rewards from each stage once

So EDDs mean more rewards

[wintry bobcat]

But the rewards are the same, not increased, right?

[viral tulip]

Yep

[wintry bobcat]

That seems like an odd design choice

[viral tulip]

But you can only get the rewards from each once a week

that's 3 more cores if you do the EDD

[wintry bobcat]

Is there a way to guarantee getting a certain overclock?

[viral tulip]

Most you can do is pick the class you're looking for from the options presented after doing a machine event

[wintry bobcat]

And it'll give me an OC for that class?

I'm trying to figure out how big of a grind it's going to be to get Carpet Bomber and Leadstorm for Gunner lol

[viral tulip]

Just gonna come down to luck

[wintry bobcat]

Gotcha gotcha

[hazy comet]

you never get duplicates so eventually you'll get the one you want

[gentle aspen]

should i do my first deep dive solo?

[calm nacelle]

Do you like using bosco? If no, no, if yes, go for it. Also have free time

The 45 minute achievement isnt exactly that easy

[pure notch]

do people look for elite deep dive parties in the regular LFG channel

or here?

[vale falcon]

In the LFG yeah

[pure notch]

im curious, i took a break from the game for awhile, I know it depends on biome, but what do people think is generally better on driller these days, flamer or cryo? I normally just do whatever I want to, but uhhhhh, elite deep dives are tough enough as it is lol

[odd comet]

Up to you

[vale falcon]

both are good

[odd comet]

Cryo plays well with a team, but flamer is more versatile

[vale falcon]

depends vastly with the loadout

[pure notch]

true

I probably need to reassess my loadout lol

[graceful needle]

If you're comfortable with Vamp + damage modded drills, Cryo is really solid. Even better if you're amazing with the EPC and Thin Containment Field!

[pure notch]

ohhhh i didnt think about doing damage drills

[graceful needle]

Its really solid! Take em into Haz 5 / EDD's and you'll be healing up as quick as you take damage

[pure notch]

im definitely going to try those, since usually if i just try to frreeze melee with pick axe, i take as much damage as I heal

lol

[graceful needle]

The throwing axes also heal you 🙂

[pure notch]

now that one I have always loved lol

[sleek verge]

Perfectly tuned cooler is nice for that build, snowball too

Freeze entire swarms incredibly easily and now them down just the same

Literally

[midnight crystal]

Tip for the Bet-C on stage 2

At the top of the drop pod room in stage 2 there's a hole where the first grabber flies through. If you send your scout up there and through the hallway then you come out right near the bet-c on the other side of the dreadnought room. You can then trigger the bet-c and just book it back down the hallway to lure her back to the main room and avoid her triggering the dreadnought fight by accident while also having a larger room to fight her in

If you do this first then you can get the BET-C on your side early which can make the dreadnought fights much less of a pain in the ass

[hazy comet]

betc spawn is random in deep dives

but thanks for sharing ❤️

[scarlet willow]

i dont believe its random

it has to do with the amount of players you have

[odd rover]

Hotfixes can also occasionally reseed DD and EDD stages.

[mellow nexus]

God dam I just wanna finish this EDD, 2nd time dying to dreadnought, team damage just not there

Also realizing a lot of people dont know about the ifg damage increase

[midnight crystal]

With a full team the Bet-C seems to consistently spawn on the opposite side of the room with the dreadnought cocoon

[pastel wasp]

Likely that it's technically not reseeding, changing how the game processes the same seeds would have the same effect as reseeding anyway

[odd rover]

True

[burnt pendant]

still have not even finished the second mission on the elite deep dive 😫

Shit feels fucking impossible, always wiping at the twins or the black box because of the mactera.

[supple quarry]

Bring a gunner and/or a scout with cryo grenades, macteras become a nonfactor

[keen raptor]

theres so many spitballers and broods on this EDD im gunna have nightmares about them lol

[keen raptor]

just beat my first EDD and did it solo pogchamp

[quiet wyvern]

Well done

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[charred ocean]

not you again

[wraith shard]

hohoh new Deeps

[pure notch]

I'm excited for the new deeps. But gonna give the current EDD one last series of attempts today lol.

[pastel wasp]

Hopefully next week is actually challenging

[random rampart]

i won my 1st edd this week so maybe this one was a manageable one for me(?????????????)

either way try your way into it lmao

[mellow nexus]

I'm doing the same once I'm outta work. I'll probably throw out a lfg for it

This EDD will be conquered

[keen raptor]

the main hurdle with this EDD is all of the breeders and broods

i forget which stage but theres a room with 2 broods

theres too many little bois to stomp lul

[odd rover]

Stage 2 has at least 4 of each brood nexuses and breeders.

Actually a pretty neat lineup.

[buoyant wing]

me and a partner managed to get through that room

it's just when we fought the twins my corpse was yeeted by the lacerator into the void, went from spawn to the blackbox

then arbalest shotgunned me in the tunnel and lacerator popped up on my partner

[wooden wing]

Hey

Is deep dive like today or tomorrow?

[buoyant wing]

new deep dives in less than 24 hours

[odd rover]

Weekly reset is every Thursday at 7AM EST

[wooden wing]

Thank you!

[hot gazelle]

I strongly recommend NOT doing the BET-C, at least until you've cleared out the big room with multiple Brood Nexuses and Naedocyte Breeders.

I have several times seen BET-C trigger the dreadnought cocoon

[pine scaffold]

edd anyone?

[acoustic wedge]

who still working on the edd ?>

[pine scaffold]

me

[desert crag]

BET-C is such a liability sometimes

friendly fire, body blocking

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[pine scaffold]

anybody doing edd ?

[viral barn]

looking for edd engi

here

[pine scaffold]

im a scout

ready to go

[thorny geyser]

ed, edd n eddy

[remote gust]

So what is scouts primary role during dds

[burnt sandal]

Same as in normal missions really

[remote gust]

Cool, so flare up and grab all the minerals lol

[burnt sandal]

And shoot high priority targets 👍

[remote gust]

Yep!

Ty ser

[thorny geyser]

Mining, lights, HVTs and support for teammates with throwables and keeping their sixes clear.

After all that, tearing through swarms in any way you can.

[thorny geyser]

it just gives a very rough estimate of what one should know about basics

[bright parcel]

m1k shredding through big boys

[opal rivet]

has there ever been a deep dive that didnt have shield disrupt?

kinda makes any of the shield upgrades totally useless

unless youre just running regular missions all the time i guess

[lusty stratus]

Use healthy for deep dives and shield for regular missions?

[opal rivet]

thats what im saying

[supple quarry]

I mean, unless you only play DDs with shield disruptions, those aren't useless
I don't really get the point

[opal rivet]

seems pretty rare for them not to have shield disrupt at least 33% of the time

just wondering if its guaranteed

[supple quarry]

I guess they're supposed to be some kind of endgame content (DDs), shield dis' being one of the hardest mutators, it makes sense to me to see it appears frequently
But to say they have some sort of increased spawn chance, I've no idea

[opal rivet]

i cant argue with that

[supple quarry]

Or we're just "unlucky" so far :p

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[supple quarry]

You may find people for it, some maybe against I dunno
It's just that it has been stated by the dev that such a thing is not planned to happen

[next pebble]

you're gonna need to change the avatar if you're planning on staying here, human

[abstract rain]

So hear me out, why have H6 when we can move things down one

[hybrid wyvern]

Why stop at haz 6

[abstract rain]

Hazard 1 is...different

[hybrid wyvern]

We must find haz 10 and haz -1

[abstract rain]

There's DD and EDD

Haz -1 you have to protect the bugs from dwarf miners that spawn

[opal rivet]

who looks at profile pics

your pic looks like my cousin

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[pastel wasp]

hypr

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Gangrenous Impact
Stage 1: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + Dreadnought Twins | Exploder Infestation!
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: Protect The Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | Rich Atmosphere

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Stony Downfall
Stage 1: Protect The Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | Low Oxygen
Stage 2: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + ** 2 Eggs** | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Cave Leech Cluster

[hushed vale]

Damn, doretta + low oxygen? Nice

[keen pond]

I need O2

[raw coyote]

[eager parcel]

As long as the refuel spots aren't bad it should be ok

[raw coyote]

Last thing I wanted to see in the EDD was Dotty

[eager parcel]

However it is dense biozone so anything is possible

[raw coyote]

And low Ox is my least favourite modifier

[sand agate]

Low oxygen EDD, yeah, sure

[supple quarry]

Escort! Nice, at least some fun

[cyan elbow]

escort oh boy oh boy