deep-dive-discussion

[ancient beacon]

we barely made it

the map for the 3rd stage is very vertical, and there were two "official" praetorian waves and one silent praetorian wave, burning all of our ammo

there are wind tunnels all over the map and they knock people off pipelines and zips

we had to litter platforms everywhere to stop dying to fall damage

the sand canyons used to be one of my favorite biomes

but now i never want to see it again

this map gave me PTSD

all things considered, this is what EDD should be like

[radiant granite]

pre-drilling can be very boring if you do it for too long

but this is an abnormal EDD with the layout+doretta damage bug so like

whatever

[ancient beacon]

i don't think pre-drilling was worth it here either

aside from the first room, which is close enough to be seen on the map

it's crammed with leeches, has at least one spitballer and multiple wardens

we had two attempts where we pre-drilled until the ommoran to prepare as much as we can

but then the game spawned two waves back-to-back, with chonky bugs and a bulk, while the dozer was doing its nosedive thing

our winning attempt was predrilled only into the first room and that was Good Enough

[burnt sandal]

I've done the EDD today with a group of friends. The hardest part was the 3 lvl. The 2nd was alright. The most terrible thing about it was the sandstorm during the rock phase, and how the rocks would spawn over the drilldozer to fall within 2s directly onto it.
Someone got leeched once but we were being super careful because, well, leech cluster can be nasty.

The verticality, bad eggs placement and a double bulk wave of the 3rd level were a bit problematic 😄

I can see why people would have trouble with it

But on the 2nd level, you don't need to pre-drill. Just need to have a good scout/good gunner to prevent those leeches to grab everybody

[minor saffron]

This weeks EDD was fine , me+1 Friend needed 3 Attempts with Randoms

no pre drilling done

[wraith shard]

Hello, first of all I'm sorry for speaking English badly, but there is still no discord in Spanish and I suppose that here I can express my doubt. I have a somewhat old laptop, with an i5-5200U processor and an Nvidia Geforce 940M graphics card and 6GB of RAM, as I have seen it meets the minimum requirements, but there are games that, although the minimum requirements are met, still give a quite experience bad and I would like to know if this is the case or if I can have a good gaming experience even with bad graphics. Thanks you for help ^^

[steep cloud]

This isn't the right channel, but those specs should be fine

I played on a laptop with similar specs without issue

[wraith shard]

oh sorry for write in wrong channel i m new in the server

and thanks u ^^

[crimson pine]

I don't think I'm trying EDD again this week

failed 4 times in a row. Last time was on Omorran HS

[thorny geyser]

Im gonna have to try this as scout

gunner run was fine

so was driller

[lament pawn]

Is this week's edd soloable? Also, from 1-10 (easiest-to hardest), how difficult is the edd for this week?

[livid sentinel]

Tried EDD 2 times so far, boths times died on 3rd mission. So easy to die from fall damage on the last one and the waves of enemies just dont let up, I wonder if double gunner might be needed for this one

And predrilling is definitely necessary for stage 2, and the doretta health bug is super annoying

each time I played it showed dorettas health at full even though she was clearly taking damage or had modules destroyed

[lament pawn]

Is there a BET-C on the second level of the edd?

[livid sentinel]

I think it depends on how many people are on your team

[astral gyro]

Doretta health bugged mostly happen to me when I were a client, and done the predrilling. (Also diving into the sky)

[misty scaffold]

and I thought this week's edd couldn't be any harder than last week's

Got it on my third attempt

[misty scaffold]

I'd say 9

[lament pawn]

And is there a definitive reason as to why this one is particularly hard?

[misty scaffold]

First stage is really easy

second stage is doretta with a lot of bulks

third stage has shield disruption with a lot of ways to die from fall damage

and just shitty cave generation in general

[urban sail]

also wind tunnels

[misty scaffold]

ah yea

[urban sail]

so be careful w/ pipeline placement

theres a nice wide open arena to fight in though on the opposite side of the map from the minehead

[lament pawn]

Are bulks seeded at all (not including crasus)?

[misty scaffold]

I'd take iron will + vamp to that

I think it's random

[urban sail]

they dont always spawn 3+ bulks per map but assume youll get at least 1-2

[misty scaffold]

sometimes people say they got 3 bulks on an edd and I get none

[lament pawn]

Is bulk count affected by player count?

[scarlet willow]

i believe so

[lament pawn]

Can bosco destroy beam towers in escorts?

[misty scaffold]

yes

just ask it to mine the tip of it

[lament pawn]

Also, can the platform gun affect them?

[misty scaffold]

beam towers?

[lament pawn]

Yes.

[misty scaffold]

I'm pretty sure the platforms only protect from rocks

not the towers

[lament pawn]

How high should I place the shield above the drill, also do I need to do it after the first wave?

As platforms are destroyed in part by the stone.

[misty scaffold]

the platforms are destroyed when doretta reach a new level

by the hearth's explosion

and you put them pretty close to doretta

[lament pawn]

Dwarf height?

[misty scaffold]

not even, this time we put it so a dwarf couldn't stand on top of doretta

you can still fix it from the side

[lament pawn]

Is a single strip of platforms enough?

Along the length of the drill.

[misty scaffold]

yes

you'll have to rebuild it once it gets destroyed

not sure how effective is that on solo though

vs focusing on the rocks

[lament pawn]

By the rocks or explosions?

[misty scaffold]

by the rocks

[lament pawn]

Understood.

Does one rock breach the barrier?

[misty scaffold]

Yes, actually I think it doesn't matter how many levels of platforms you put

it'll instantly destroy all of them, but I never tested this so idk

[lament pawn]

I see.

I provide my findings.

If I get past the first stage.

[misty scaffold]

heheh

good luck

[lament pawn]

The shield may be unnecessary in solo.

It does work to a extent and isn't flimsy, it'll take a hit if need.

Though more space between it and the drill may be necessary as it was hit through the barrier in my test.

[misty scaffold]

yeah, it works really well on coop but I've never did it on solo

because then engie can concentrate on rebuilding the shield while the rest of the team deal with rocks

[lament pawn]

Also, do you know why certain bugs keep instantly dying when approaching the back if the drill?

It like they're getting hit with the drill head, this was not between stages or anything.

Well, this edd's second level is definitely soloable as engie.

Same as the first level.

[misty scaffold]

Nice

gj

[lament pawn]

Is the refinery location seeded?

[misty scaffold]

yes

[lament pawn]

My soul is hurt by this news.

[misty scaffold]

this one sucks

you'll have a hard time without a driller

[lament pawn]

Two jacks down and connected, the question is if the latter stage of the mission will be two much for me to handle, I'd love a cryo driller currently.

The leading issue with the final level is the well at the bottom of the map plus no shield.

Begging for you to fall into The "Pit"

[misty scaffold]

at least bosco can't friendly fire

it was a huge problem for me

got downed by a scout light to my face

[lament pawn]

Feels bad, man.

[unkempt river]

so can i just say elite deep dive drilldozer is bull crap lol

[lament pawn]

How so?

[unkempt river]

they send way to freaking much after that thing and its made of paper machee seriously ive soloed dozens of deep dives but cant ever when its that stupid feather weight machine

[lament pawn]

Is it at the stone you struggle or en route?

[unkempt river]

en route

its when it breaks into a new room and gets attacked from both sides i just cant solo it

keeping it alive killing refueling and repairing all at once is just impossible for me

but only when its that stupid pos any other mission i can solo the elite easily

[lament pawn]

Have you tried pre-mining into the other rooms before going in with the drill?

You can then clear any lurking foes.

[unkempt river]

lol not for this elite deep dive youd spend 20 minutes digging into the next chamber yourself it has to go faaaaar to reach each room lol

[lament pawn]

You think?

[unkempt river]

very much so

the rooms are far enough away they dont show up on the map until well into the drill dozers drilling

[lament pawn]

I can tell you where to mine or give a picture of the level's map?

It's pretty simple for this week.

Pretty much straight 220-230 from the drill drop.

[unkempt river]

honestly i just dont care enough if you have to cheese it like that then its badly designed lol

[lament pawn]

Just a suggestion, as you seemed frustrated otherwise.

[feral atlas]

Escort wasn't exactly desinged to be solo'd

[lament pawn]

Unfortunately not.

[unkempt river]

all content should be able to be soloed thats why it annoys me

[lament pawn]

Well it still can be with arduous effort.

[feral atlas]

It can be solo'd

The vast majority of people just aren't good enough to do it

[lament pawn]

Also, you get a BET-C this week.

[unkempt river]

yeah having to go out of your way or know the entire map before it starts dose not equal solo 😛

[olive tulip]

Any driller mains here?

[unkempt river]

yeah i had BET-CX

[olive tulip]

How's sticky flames on haz 5.5 with 4 dawi

[feral atlas]

I mean I've seen people do it blind

[unkempt river]

i died in the room after the first refueling twice and now im just giving it up

[lament pawn]

I did it blind, was actually just scouting it for a mate earlier.

[unkempt river]

with which class?

[lament pawn]

Engie.

[feral atlas]

Not scout

[unkempt river]

yeah try with scout 😛

[feral atlas]

Not driller

[lament pawn]

Why scout, it'd be harder would it not?

[unkempt river]

either way i just really hate drilldozers missions

[feral atlas]

Escort is probably scout's worst mission type

[unkempt river]

indeed

i might go back and try tomorrow with my gunner

[feral atlas]

It's okay. Not gamechanging tbh.

Driller as a whole doesn't matter too much this EDD with a full squad.

What you take shouldn't win or lose it for the mission unless somebody else is underperforming.

[unkempt river]

anyways thanks for letting me rant a bit a feel better now lol

ill beat it tomorrow using my gunner

[lament pawn]

Good luck.

[olive tulip]

Feels like sticky flames suck vs dreads now, because of their ms increase + sticky nerf

[feral atlas]

Dread on stage 1 shouldn't be an issue

if a team of 4 can't beat it somehow, they shouldn't be attempting the EDD, at all

you basically have speed hacks

[olive tulip]

Just in general

[feral atlas]

In general, driller is probably worse against dreads after the update

[misty scaffold]

they nerfed cryo too

[olive tulip]

Havent tried cryo yet

[feral atlas]

not that this changes much; he has always been the CC bot + axes

[olive tulip]

• trash and swarmer clear

Still makes solo drillers pretty sad

[feral atlas]

game isn't, and shouldn't really, be balanced for solo

if you want solo balancing, ask for changes to bosco

[ancient beacon]

i found escort to be very soloable

at least, with classes other than scout

and as driller you need to take the pistol for the rocks, otherwise you will lose doretta in rock phase

dreds are now much harder to solo as driller with any build, it takes pretty much your entire ammo pool to kill a hiveguard

maybe even a resup in the process

[nova yacht]

finely got to the 3. part of EDD, and then i lost connection to the host 🤯

[plush dew]

you dont need to take subata for the rocks. you can epc mine and axe them aswell

[sleek verge]

Yeah epc isn't too bad, I prefer to not play driller on escort but it's definitely soloable

[worthy quest]

heck

level 2 of the edd is so hard

any of you guys have tips?

[prisma junco]

You can clear the first cave early

it appears on the minimap

otherwise just stay with Doretta when she does her rollercoaster shit

at the very least gunner should stay with her to give the rest of the team a zipline

[worthy quest]

ah right

is it seeded that she takes an impossible angle?

[prisma junco]

yeah I believe so

it's quite thrilling

[buoyant wing]

doretta was flying when me and my mates tried it

[kind shuttle]

Not really part of this channel but I assume people here would know so sorry if this bothers someone: Missions change every 25 minutes in the menu right? Otherwise if you run that mission more times in a row it's the same. Meaning you can farm machine event in one map if you finish it few times in those 25 minutes before it resets and new ones are generated?

[buoyant wing]

no they're all randomly generated even if you repeat the mission, only deep dives are mostly static

[kind shuttle]

meaning if I go one quick small map mission and I don't see machine event I can just quit and run it again in hopes of finding that evenet/

[fringe kettle]

Yes

[kind shuttle]

thanks for the tip guys

I do hope those machine events can spawn in shortest missions

[misty scaffold]

yep

when I have a lot of cores I launch haz 1 point extractions

[kind shuttle]

I just had 4 mission in a row with machine evnet

the same type

[worthy quest]

wow

[kind shuttle]

secret is runnign 1/1/1 Egg hunt missions

[solemn stag]

Just failed EDD on stage 3 again. This is just ridiculously hard with a 4 men team. I don't care about people opinion on "well MUH SOLO run well" because this is a 4 player co-op game and should be balanced and focus on that aspect.

First few things that really make this stage just ABSOLUTELY hell and almost don't find this fun at all with the NO SHIELD handicap at the LAST freaking stage already.

• The map spawned 4 BULK DETONATORS
• We also got small exploder bugs spawned on top of that
• Beside the refinery main objectives, we also have to get 2 eggs, which spawn EVEN MORE ENEMIES!
• Let's not forget the sand dune digger.

It's not like the refinery are in easy spots to defend. The one WAY at the bottom of the pit is like asking people to an hero jump to their death with ZERO SHIELD handicapped.
I think there is a fine line between something challenging in a game...and there's something that take literally an adderall trip to beat.

[keen moth]

i mean if you don't find it fun, then don't do it is my first piece of advice

EDD last week was pretty bad so I put it down for most of the week after I cooled off, but I don't feel like I deserve a clear just because

[kind shuttle]

@solemn stag We managed to do it but 2 people were sacrificed in order to finish

[solemn stag]

Dude EDD last week was hard BUT not as hard as this

[kind shuttle]

I sweat it was like 60 downed

And we ran out of nitra

Literally last supply slot was for the carry of the team with shields

driller saved drill just for escape

[worn bramble]

I feel like last week's stage 2 was this week's stage 3 in terms of feel

[solemn stag]

They have to put a cap on how much Bulk Detonator get spawned. That's like the most bullet sponge enemy in the game. It have to correlate with the amount of Nitra in the map.

[solemn stag]

This week stage 2 feel the same as stage last week (well the map is easier to navigate), the reason why Stage 2 is easier this time around is because more people are used to beating escort mission now.

[worn bramble]

Fair point

[solemn stag]

yeah but stage 3 compare to last week was a EASY PEASY

This stage 3 is absolute retardedly hard.

[worn bramble]

I was thinking to set up multiple bunkers in stage 3 around the cave so that may be easier to defend against waves

[shrewd bane]

Teamwork is a strong indicator of success. My winning run started as a meme with double Driller/Engi. We pre-drilled stage 2 and bunkered in stage 3 and all made it out alive. Last week's EDD has nothing on this one.

[solemn stag]

I agreed, this game should only be beat with Teamwork. We pre-drilled stage 2 as well to make it easier. Although I don't know how you can bunker with 4 Detonator spawning (maybe my run just unlucky) and having to go fix the refinery pipelines.

Either way, if the trick is to use classes like Driller/Engi as a team comp to beat EDD than...I don't think that's right. I'm fine with the differences in utility and damage output among the classes. But if you have to tricked out with 2 highest damaging dealing class (Engi) to beat stage 3 then that's not DRG at all.

[shrewd bane]

I had read earlier a first time win was with 4 Gunners, that must have been a hoot lol. We had 2 bulks at the refinery stage and the engineers used their breach cutters.

[solemn stag]

Did you do the refinery first? or did yall get the eggs first?

[shrewd bane]

We pulled one egg before building the refinery, but we waited for the pipes to be completed so that moving the second egg was easier, since it was in a pit. Then we started the refinery, peeking out for repairs and to spot bulks.

[solemn stag]

Same, we connect the pipes first, and pop the eggs and use the pipeline to grind back to the refinery.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[lilac estuary]

Any tips for solo on the second stage of the EDD?

I main scout and it's the class I'm the most familiar with but it's really annoying to not have the flexibility to do anything else while Dori needs refuelling

[prisma junco]

you have to abuse the choke point given to you on the left side of the cave

sticky flames and IFGs help a ton for stabilizing there

Neurotoxin Payload on the Thunderhead is also very useful on the second stage, but you're probably better off going with carpet bomber/Splintering Shells like we did

[tight heron]

Yeah IFGs are hella underused

[upper sand]

hey everyone anyone got advice on a build for the driller to use ?

[tardy grove]

the idea that many teams are finding pre-drilling to be a necessary strat on this weeks deep dives should be a troubling red flag. I think it's bad that peeps feel like they need to resort to a strategy like that.

[keen moth]

i think its necessary for pick up groups or pugs

[opal rivet]

holy crap this deep dive sucks

[high edge]

The DD this week is fucking annoying

Regular

[digital gyro]

finding that mule up high on stage 2 was annoying but other than that i haven't had trouble with the standard dd

[high edge]

Explody infestation egg hunt is pain

[digital gyro]

ah i guess i'm biased since i ran carpet bomber

[prisma junco]

I dunno, I thought predrilling was fun

[digital gyro]

usually was able to snipe them from across the map

[prisma junco]

also you can see the next cave on the terrain scanner

it's not like people are watching vids before hand to find the next cave, it's just obvious

[keen moth]

its too far to see on the scanner ahead of time

you have to make some educated guesses

[prisma junco]

you can see it near one of the corners

[keen moth]

the first room isn't too bad, but the rest are pretty flipping far

[jovial edge]

Is the EDD ever not "2nd-stage escort with multiple Detonators and broken mapgen"?
(Let me guess, sometimes it's 3rd..?)

[wicked wraith]

any tips for this weeks EDD?

getting absolutely fucking bodied

[jovial edge]

It's a cave leech cluster week!
But really, we had this attempt here, where the 3 of us were all hellbent on clearing first. Randoms, but comptetent. The 4th was a wildcard. Told'im to not touch the dozer.
He went and activated it anyway silently. Kicked the mofo (serves him right) and had a surprisingly smooth and coordinated ride to the core with all leeches taken care of in time (by me — Scout) and full shields, defused 2 bulks with cryo, got to last stage of core drilling and goofed like idiots on something absolutely trite.
Felt good still.

[tardy grove]

feels so good when things just click together

[jovial edge]

Indeed.

[tardy grove]

If people want to do it, thats all fine and great, but we had a driller who begrudingly wanted us to do it, thinking it was the only way to get it done. Call him a fool for not just getting good and playing the way he really wants, but when peeps feel "cornered" into certain strategies, the vibes get all rancid, ya know?

i want good vibes

[prisma junco]

That's understandable, this is the safest way to do it tho

Emphasis on "safest"

[prisma junco]

I only did the first

[civic marlin]

Hello everybody! Hows the Elite Deep Dive this week?

[weak pivot]

this week's stage 3 is like last week's stage 2

[gloomy crystal]

What's the deal with this week's EDD? Anyone have some insight for me?

[olive tulip]

Drill ahead for stage 2 to clear leeches, spitballers, 1 brood nexus and prep easy oil collection (one stop doesnt have enough)

Mind the wind tunnels (their positions are bad) and leeches near veins deposits on stage 3

[halcyon pine]

Lost stage 2 when a Bulk Detonator decided to pop in while we were drilling into the heartstone, right when the lasers popped up

[wintry light]

ahh rip

[halcyon pine]

I'll get an Elite Deep Dive one day. One day...

Think I might wait for next week's rotation

[wintry light]

this one is unforgivingly hard

2 - 3 dets popping up every stage

[halcyon pine]

Seriously.

I've tired three times, two of my losses were to bulk detonators

[wintry light]

i've tried around 10 times now, we're facing min 4 dets every try

and dotty is weak af

[pastel wasp]

check out the wiki

[pastel wasp]

if you reach mission 3, defend from waves at the bottom of the map.

[stable goblet]

So, really dumb question, how do you focus fire with the M1000?

nvm, found out, I am a derp XD

[gloomy crystal]

Destroyed how? We just -man scrambled it....

I was Engi and used Arc Turrets, came in very clutch for slowing down the multiple Bulk Dets and other chonky bois

Wise pipe runs and good zipline placement is crucial too though

that mobility and aerial fighting ability are necessary

Yikes. The map has way too much elevation change to not have good zips placed

it isn't so bad if Dive 2 doesn't bug. Our Dotty bugged several times. Got stuck in mid air once

it's a fancy mustache for me

Well, I wouldn't give up. Just have to recruit a better Gunner

I'm off GL out there

[kind shuttle]

does anyone play scout with rifle in deep dives?

I Hate taht focus, it makes me delay my shot since it shoots when I release the click instead of press. Can I somehow disable focus if I don't use it

[burnt sandal]

you can just not use it 🤷‍♂️

[kind shuttle]

@burnt sandal All guns trigger when you press mouse button This one triggers when you release mouse button ,meaning however fast you are there is still noticable delay that makes my aim worse.

[burnt sandal]

If you just click, the gun will fire like normal.

[kind shuttle]

Do you read?

[burnt sandal]

yes I do and I still don't understand where's the problem 🤔

just tap your M1

[kind shuttle]

Cuz you don't know different types of Input

have you ever played moba or WoW in arenas?

[burnt sandal]

Yes

[tawdry birch]

So they do exist. I thought DRG did well at shooing away unpleasant folks

[burnt sandal]

There's a lot of those in the forums

The discord is fine and IG it's not too bad

[viscid fractal]

i've beat edd three times if anyone needs help

[cobalt hemlock]

Just click faster

or get AI mod for gk2

[burnt sandal]

I guess going GK2 with AI stability is another solution 👀

[tawdry birch]

I play on a game pad, but can empty the M1ks clip pretty rapid if needed

But why would you use the focus shots? Delicious delicious extra damage

And/or other effects depending on your overclock

[cobalt hemlock]

it's not a great one, but if someone wants to snipe without fiddling with the m1, not sure what else to tell em really

[burnt sandal]

it's a great OC if you can hit wkeapoints

[cobalt hemlock]

that's why i love it (plus missing a shot on the m1 feels too bad lol)

[halcyon pine]

Two Detonators at the same time on the second stage

Yeah I give up

[lilac estuary]

I prefer the GK2 for solo'ing

[kind shuttle]

@burnt sandal to finish the thought. In mobas you set If your abilities are activated upon pressing or releasing of a button. Which makes a difference. For example your reflexes are usually about 80-120 miliseconds that's for the "upon pressed" input type. If you have "upon released" it can prolong to 250 miliseconds easily

[kind shuttle]

Can I quit the mission once I get my overclock or do I have to finish?

from machine event I mean

[vale falcon]

yeah, same for cargo and helmets

[kind shuttle]

nice thanks

[pastel wasp]

Hows the patch for EDD? Having an easier time lads?

[jovial edge]

I need to get this EDD over with.

[lament pawn]

What's up with the glitch where client players can't see drill health properly?

[shrewd bane]

Sometimes the drill would take damage but the hud never updates and it would look like it's at full health.

[lament pawn]

Do you know what causes it?

[shrewd bane]

Patch notes says joining a mission mid-game was the cause, I had it happen a couple times but never put two and two together.

[buoyant wing]

yeah I can confirm, used to pub around a lot and doretta's UI would constantly get messed up

[grizzled python]

QQ, just failed my first solo deep dive as a Scout, is there no way to get more shields while doing a DD?

[prisma junco]

wdym more shields?

[grizzled python]

Like, my shields never recharged for the DD, so I wasn't sure if there was something I was missing

[prisma junco]

that's just the modifier for the stage

Shield Disruption

[onyx agate]

[spice vine]

i thought stage 2 was bad

stage 3 this week .... wow

[onyx agate]

was w/a good random group, we were all surprised out of the drop pod for what lay waiting stage 3

we did no finish

[spice vine]

same

we got stage 2 down to a science, and even learned that doretta will follow driller tunnels (which can be used to your advantage)

but stage 3 ... we wiped out immediately

[feral atlas]

stage 3 depends on your engi

[spice vine]

how so

[feral atlas]

and him knowing how to platform the cliff edge so it's easier to put down the simpliest pipe laytous

[spice vine]

that's if you can even survive the initial wave 🤣

[feral atlas]

eh, that's a basic capability issue then

don't rush, so you don't run into spitballers

[spice vine]

yeah, the one under the refinery was a fun surprise

[feral atlas]

which is why you don't rush

[onyx agate]

there was no prep, we jumped out of the drop pod and was swarmed

most of us had little health from stage 2

[feral atlas]

that's rushing

[eager parcel]

On site refinery always has a welcome party

[onyx agate]

we...walked out of the drop pod and got swarmed

my first EDD for refinery

[feral atlas]

have one guy drop a resupply on the ramp, engi sets up sentries

get back inside

[eager parcel]

Outside of edds too

[onyx agate]

now i know and knowing's half the battle

[feral atlas]

you have 90% damage resist inside the pod

wait until it drops

shield it

and proceed

[onyx agate]

i'll watch more vidoes and take notes

[feral atlas]

this isn't a videos thing

there is no magic bullet, just common sense and game sense

[onyx agate]

2 guys on comms, they were very informative except for stage 3 chaos

it was, hi...holy @#$%

[feral atlas]

drop pod won't leave until the last person has left the extract zone

[eager parcel]

Yeah if you have an engi or driller to help clear the poor terrain it's much easier

[feral atlas]

for insertions

if a player is sprinting out of the drop pod immediately on refinery, eggs, or point extract

he's new

or inexperienced

there is always a welcome party

[onyx agate]

thanks for the info

[feral atlas]

honestly one of the fastest ways to gauge the experience level of the team

literally first 10 seconds of the mission

[sand coyote]

Unless it's gunner

Then he's just making sure there's no big pogger behind the pod

[feral atlas]

Even gunning doing it is stupid

not only does the spawns sometimes have a popin delay

you're potentially going to get leeched if one spawns right above you

it's a good way to unnecessarily burn a shield

[short charm]

I always rush out because it's a ton of fun to engage huge hordes of trash, one of the best opportunities you'll get to cluster bomb the hell out of 50+ grunts or whatever else is out there. It ain't an issue if you have the skill and confidence to back it up. Huddling together in the drop pod is boring and only really a necessity in the very very rare few cases where you have leeches and multiple spitballers outside waiting to wreck your day.

Live a little will ya.

[feral atlas]

Ofc, if you're good enough you will get away with it.

But if, like stated above, your team barely survived stage 2 and are dropping into EDD stage 3 on low health

It's stupid

[short charm]

Oh yeah yeah, didn't know that we had context for it. In that case, yes, maybe take it slow.

[sand coyote]

idk theres something about heavily armed dorfs rushing out of pod and gunning bugs down is great

[feral atlas]

They were probably dropping into stage 3 with multiple people on revive health

a good number of attacks will 1 shot

or just falling 3 feet

oh, my ankles

time to die

[bleak sinew]

After an year long hiatus playing DRG, I done my first EDD, didn't go horribly but something tells me the map design behind them i deliberately sadistic, specially on the second and third missions. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372883618646851595/811008509927751750/unknown.png

That surprise BET-C + Bulk Detonator at the second mission as soon as doretta digs out

[feral atlas]

2 downs isn't bad

I've seen people go into the 20+

[tulip umbra]

Me and my team of randoms had 58 as a whole. Still beat it though

[spice vine]

That’s me!

[bleak sinew]

Yeah thats what I meant with didnt go horrible

just noticed its sadisticc

[blazing briar]

Would you like some spitballers with your leeches, sir? How about some more leeches? Or maybe a couple detonators?

[bleak sinew]

EDD gave me both energy rerouter and ice storm

really good Driller overclocks

[weary jolt]

I got to the very end of DD sector 1, even with turret, the funky placement of the fuel cells got me killed. I even put down bug repellant platforms to try and curve them towards my turret

DD are a pain solo despite being so much fun

[plush schooner]

Gotta rock that iron will+vamp

[weary jolt]

Vamp didnt seem worth it to me with how little "Medium and larger" creatures spawn, the bestiary doesnt show sizes and I consider Praetorians and up to be "Medium and larger"

[plush schooner]

Medium is anything that's a grunt or up

So you can pickaxe a grunt, spitter, slasher, guard, or even bigger and any flying enemy besides the little zappy jellyfish things also count.

Plus any healing makes you not fall back down after standing up with iron will, even if it's only a measly 5 HP

And you're still invulnerable for the 8 or so seconds

[weary jolt]

A grunt, they seemed too small to be considered medium especially with Dreadnaughts, crassus, and shellbacks being so huge

[plush schooner]

You'd think

Plus, if you play engineer, it's really often that 'medium' enemies make it to you barely alive

So you can save ammo and gain some pretty significant HP as long as you play safe, if the need arises.

Bonus tech: Vampire doesn't seem to have a limit at how many times it can proc at once, so if a bunch of grunts and slashers start to gank the hell out of you it's possible to kill them all in one power attack. Which then grants you HP for every kill from that swing

[weary jolt]

I got you, I just keep forgetting power attack exists

[finite fable]

So this is my first time trying elite deep dive, and three times now we've lost in the second room of the second stage. It instantly overwhelms us. Are you usually that insanely hard, or is this particular one a bit of an anomaly?

[weary jolt]

I have unstoppable, elemental defense, and replaced strongarm with vampirism, as well as iron will and heightened sense, I dont have any "group" perks at all

[plush schooner]

Elite Deep Dives are, I think hazard 4.5-5-5.5 in that order as far as scaling goes. And if I remember correctly the second mission is an escort mission. Which is about as murderously brutal as it gets as far as missions go without stacking lethal enemies on top of that.

So they're usually fairly hard but you're also dealing with what is, in my opinion, one of the hardest elite deep dive mission variants possible.

[finite fable]

Yup, it's an escort. Guess I'll give it another go next week lol. Thanks!

[plush schooner]

You'll either need a really solid team or have to be an absolute beast at the game to take it on solo

Either way, not really worth it

[waxen mist]

flying dottie is fun

"fun"

[buoyant wing]

flying dottie is funny

but maybe not fun

[plush schooner]

That reminds me, am I alone in my embittered hatred of Doretta? The missions just wore me down so instantly that even the sight of oil shale gives me 'nam flashbacks

[acoustic pebble]

it's not bad when your doretta doesn't do this

#drg-gallery

[buoyant wing]

led to believe that this week's EDD drilldozer was smuggled in by orks

[plush schooner]

I am admittedly biased against almost any form of escort quest. So even when Dorretta isn't being a jank piece of trash I still tend to hate the mission.

[buoyant wing]

I don't usually mind escort missions if they're done well but the jank hurts

[acoustic pebble]

yea it's been pretty awful. First few times was interesting for the novelty, but recently, it's not fun. Takes much longer than any other mission type and there's no way to accelerate it. Shale can be TERRIBLY spawned.

[buoyant wing]

I am still traumatized by that one edd that had the two drilldozer stages

[acoustic pebble]

rip

[plush schooner]

Personally I just leave missions when an escort duty shows up, unless I'm with the one friend I trust to not let me down in the mission and if I'm in a good enough mood to put up with the suffocating tedium of refueling and the infinitely frustrating and endless jank

My personal 'favorite' being getting launched off doretta while bugs stand inside and underneath it and bite the hell out of the drilldozer.

[opal rivet]

horrible week all around

[dawn portal]

This weeks elite deep dive is fucked up

[marble plinth]

Yes..

Did your doretta take up to the ceiling a flight and then go back down in time?

Ours did, we needed ziplines and platforms in order to get up there.

In stage 2 that is, and how many bulks and oppressors did you get to kill in the deep dive elite?

Just wondering because ended up killing 8 bulks and like what, 13-14 oppressors.

They just kept coming

[buoyant wing]

yeah she flies

we stopped to refuel and there were 8 wardens 2 oppressors and a bulk

dead dozer

[marble plinth]

This weeks deep dive elite

Is possibly the hardest yet to date

[wraith shard]

hallo kann einer deutsch

[sacred moon]

Agreed

it's completely bonkers

has anyone cleared it yet?

Any tips?

[wintry light]

yup, dont attempt it, save yourself the frustration

[burnt sandal]

I have cleared it but yeah, the 3rd stage is hard.

[sacred moon]

I came to the same conclusion after two attempts lol

[marble plinth]

8 bulks

14 oppressors

I have a tip

Use driller to mine to the cave leech cavern ahead

Kill the leeches, mine the good shit

Go start escort only after you feel secure

[burnt sandal]

I'd suggest getting it on with people you know.

• Looking up and not rushing ahead on stage two and making sure your gunner use those shields.
• Take care of the eggs asap on the stage 3 and prepare to fight a few bulks. Move as a team.

[marble plinth]

Third dive?

Just git gud

If one of your team-mates is being a dead weight, your odds of survival have been reduced by drastic amounts.

[sacred moon]

You need a commando with that one

[wintry light]

what even is secure in the dozer stage, bugs get under the dozer and rip it shreds

[marble plinth]

Yes, they do, and bulks keep spawning like mad.

[sacred moon]

Doretta flies lmao

[marble plinth]

Ye

Its crazy

[sacred moon]

Was it intented by the devs?

Are they memeing on us?

[burnt sandal]

Deep dives are randomly generated.

[wintry light]

dont know, they tried doing it on stream, failed every time

[marble plinth]

They should add achievement for finishing this weeks deep dive

Its madness

[sacred moon]

I mean if you get a shitty rng on a normal mission you can restart with a blank slate

but with this

[marble plinth]

Failed the first run as i angrily ranted due to gunner refusing to throw shield or play as a team

So... i picked gunner this time, and team was well supplied with shields and firepower.

[sacred moon]

Amazing

but then, your engi fatboy'd doretta?

[marble plinth]

Nah the engi was cool

We died 2 times as a whole team, but we had iron wills and instant revives so.

It was CLOSE

[sacred moon]

Must have skills

[wintry light]

no heightened senses ? O.o

[sacred moon]

I don't mind not clearing EDD every week, otherwise it's not elite

but preferably due to lack of skills or teamwork rather than...

elven magic

[stone seal]

this weeks elite dive has quite possibly the stupidest pathing of the drilldozer I have yet to see 🤣

Does the old vertical up vertical down trick

[prisma junco]

yes, I've posted a lot of tips throughout the week

#deep-dive-discussion message

I actually thought this week's was easier than last week's

[sacred moon]

Many thanks

[prisma junco]

there's a great spot to the left of the refinery that I highly suggest you shape and exploit

it helped us out a lot

also general tip: comm a lot

I can't imagine I'm much more highly skilled than these people having trouble beating it, especially because I did it on my worst class

the difference I think it communication

and playing with people who are reliable

[round flare]

i dont know how but i just mindlessly got through it on the first try with randoms

[prisma junco]

there's some rng to it

I dunno how lucky we got

[knotty idol]

If I do this week's deep dive a second time, will I get rewards for it?

[quiet mortar]

You will get XP and Credits, but not the Cores

[winged hornet]

well

any ideas about elite dive today?

[burnt sandal]

?

[winged hornet]

i mean, all random teams that i met fail at second stage

[feral atlas]

There is no magic bullet.

Fact of the matter is, it's quite likely that most randoms simply are not good enough for this week. Or last week, for that matter.

[fringe kettle]

Except magic bullets

[feral atlas]

You know what I mean.

People that are hoping that one simple trick will somehow pull them through the EDD.

[odd rover]

"Glyphids HATE him!"

[feral atlas]

Instead of the hard work of making good loadouts, having good game sense, etc.

[sand coyote]

Leech cluster get trivialized pretty hard by good scout and teamates that actually looks with eyes

Unless it's one of those leech clusters that spawns off to the side of a recess

[plush schooner]

The Elite Deep Dive having an escort duty is like it having a meat grinder at the end of a tunnel that has a conveyor belt running at max speed towards it

Most things that enter said tunnel are gonna get minced.

And, like I said yesterday, the reward really isn't worth beating the mission

I made it through with my boi and I'm a worse more broken person for it. And all I got was another _f u c k i n g _ blank core to add to my stack of 20

So save yourself and don't do it

[distant anvil]

does drilling ahead make the dozer fly or it has nothing to do with it?

23th try and still not beat

[onyx agate]

apparently you can have the dozer go in that direction

[plush schooner]

For what it's worth, when my friend and I made it to the deep dive that has Bet-c in it we dug to that before starting the dozer. After going back to the dozer it followed the tunnel we dug exactly.

Pretty pointless in practice since you generally won't know where the other caves are

[distant anvil]

so i should just stop trying the EDD :'''D

[plush schooner]

For your own sake

It's not worth the gun overclock

Or the blank core if you have all the gun overclocks

[undone harness]

I will need a team to make EDD but i really need some advices on overclocks to use for this edd

I use cryo with freezing power clean oc

[prisma junco]

Our driller used clean sticky and overstuffed mag Subata

[undone harness]

I use auto subata

But it’s not the best because of leechs

You guys suggest doing it with 3 or 4 ?

[prisma junco]

Overstuffed mag works quite well here

[prisma junco]

I dunno, I did it with 4 and it was fine

[undone harness]

Heh i don’t have this one

[plush schooner]

When my friend and I did the mission I was on gunner with carpet bomber thunderhead and a burst pistol with compact mags. Thorns-Elemental Insulation(swap as you please)-Vampire with Hoverboots-Iron Will.
He was rocking the same perks with a Lightweight Bullet Stubby and a Return To Sender Breach Cutter.

Not sure how much that helps the poor souls wanting to complete it, but there you go.

[prisma junco]

I don't recommend RtS on this one

[undone harness]

Thanks

[prisma junco]

if you're gonna specialize in single target, go HP

[little cove]

Nor thorns or vampire...
You're trying to not get hit and not get within range of the bugs. Use Sugar Rush for healing instead.

[prisma junco]

I used thorns and vampire

vampire I probably shouldn't have taken, but thorns was invaluable imo

[little cove]

You're not the average player who goes down 20 times in an EDD

[prisma junco]

I was playing scout for reference

I would still recommend thorns for stage three

there are a lot of swarmers

[plush schooner]

I mean, I only went down twice the whole time and one of those times I used iron will to get back up and help clutch the escort duty.

[atomic anchor]

Is the Ice Spear from Cryo Cannon a melee attack?

[undone harness]

Even third mission is evil, we had to speed a lot, my scoot was really involved commanding with vocal but we failed at 3d stage

[prisma junco]

it's a fast-moving projectile

[plush schooner]

It's less constantly useful and more an emergency card to pull if things are desperate.

Which, I personally, find to be the best use for most of the perks. As most of the ones that give constantly useful buffs are typically too insignificant for me to value them over potentially 180-flipping a doomed situation.

[prisma junco]

on scout I recommend dash + field medic, especially if you don't have much faith in your team to stay alive

my teammates went down a combined 10 times or something on stage 3, having field medic was super useful

[plush schooner]

Ah yeah, on scout or driller I can't really say what would be terribly useful honestly. If anything I would say I'd just prefer two engineers and two gunners. You'll be slow af because no grappling and no easy tunneling. On top of that no scout flares, but the intensity of the firepower would certainly feel great against the swarms of enemies.

You could also swap elemental insulation for strongarm for that super flare yeet to help make up a little bit for no scout flares.

[prisma junco]

scout is pretty invaluable this dive

lighting up caves in stage 2 and 3 helps immensely, as well as the extra assassination power

Imo this is a DD where scout can carry somewhat

[plush schooner]

I believe it, I just also know that if I were a scout when I was playing with my friend the hordes would have made me want to cry even if I had the AR and shotty

[atomic anchor]

I think a good Driller is essential in mission 2

[random atlas]

I just won my first solo deep dive and finally beat the elite deep dive, every time i did it online something always got in the way and snowballed into a loss, after almost a full week of failed attempts i tried it solo and after making a build specifically for it i pulled it off. feels so amazing

[atomic anchor]

Wow, erm....that's so bad, lol...how could anyone die that much on stage 3? ha ha...ha ha

[random atlas]

i dont think stage 2 would have been possible without spamming gunner shields on the drilldozer, but thankfully solo you get so many resupplies that i could have one up super often

[orchid bone]

finally beat the edd

always had trouble with the last stage

this time we were basically using resupps as health packs

had the health increase beer too

resupplier perk might be a good idea to pick up imo

[plush schooner]

Depends on how often you find yourself resupplying in desperate situations I suppose

I'd almost never consider running it constantly

Congrats tho

[topaz oriole]

im having a hard time getting my mic to work in Deep Rock. I have the right input/output settings, and my mic works in all my other games. Any suggestions?

[pastel wasp]

I suggest typing. I mute microphones anyway

[fresh escarp]

I need some help with this damn EDD since me being a solo pisses me off and it's killing my sanity

[knotty obsidian]

what do I do as a driller in EDD stage 2?

the flying drilldozer combined with giant swarms is too much

[sick coral]

you run flame or cryo?

[buoyant wing]

clench and pray you don't get yeeted from funny physics

[jovial pebble]

edd stage 2 can go fuck itself

refuse to do it

gl 1%

[simple fern]

i was just about to ask for help in the edd ;-;

[old widget]

I’ve also had trouble. Manual selection of mic device on audio tab in DRG game options didn’t work. Ended up having to select the proper default mic device in Win 10 Sound Settings cpanel and then tell DRG to just use default mic. Worked then.

(And honestly for deep dives I feel like folks don’t use mics enough)

[sullen current]

EDD isn't too bad if you've got a coordinated team, alone though it's hell

[feral atlas]

At this point in the refresh cycle

you are not getting a coordinated team in pubs

[simple fern]

do you wanna help me?

[abstract rain]

Ok the EDD this week stage 2 is just poorly designed.

The drill went straight vertical twice. And bulk detonators on the wall when the drill broke it on the 2nd attempt. The vertical drill happened every run too with 4 attempts. Did not have a run without a bulk det on that map (usually just one sometimes 2) which is more interesting than a problem except for it spawning extremely close.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[white ridge]

awesome edd this week

can't wait for the new one

[plain charm]

its horrendous.

[white ridge]

yea that's why it's great

[plain charm]

vertical cave, sand biome, liquid morkite stage

[white ridge]

high blood pressure and then dopamine

✋ 👌

[plain charm]

lol

✋ 👌

good luck to anyone trying this weeks EDD.

[dreamy star]

Didn't bother, if I see dotty in a deep dive now I just give up

Well... not quite give up, just lose all enthusiasm to try it

[marble plinth]

I finished this weeks EDD

WORSHIP MY GUN THAT WEIGHS MORE THAN 200 POUNDS

[old widget]

Is Doretta’s path craziness perhaps tied to predrilling? Not that it wouldn’t still be a bug, but wondering if there’s a correlation

[supple quarry]

I did hear people saying that predrilling was messing up with her pathfinding, so far I did not predrill and did not have any issue with her. Maybe I'm just lucky, maybe it's linked

[formal thorn]

just put doretta on the last stage every week so we can skip her and still get the good cores.

[stable lily]

Is there a way to open party member (Steam) profile through the game?

[little cove]

Shift-tab > View current players (lower left)

You have to complete a mission together for the list to show them

[old widget]

Is it still possible to shield Doretta from rocks with Engi platforms (in part 2 of heartstone), or did they patch that?

[shrewd bane]

I feel like yes?, but if you have a dwarf standing on the drill and a rock lands, they take splash damage and that some how bleeds through the platforms and hurts the drill.

It could have also been grunts eating away, I'd like to see a test. brb

[buoyant basalt]

should still be possible, you just have to have the platforms be at just the right height
can't be too low due to rock splash damage but also can't be too high else the rocks just fly under it
better than it's a bit too high vs too low tho as the rocks hitboxes do tend to still hit it first even if they overlap, make sure teammates are watching the bugs instead of focusing the rocks tho else you'll lose a drilldozer part to enemy spawns instead of rocks

[shrewd bane]

+1 to height requirement, too low and the damage still occurs.

[prisma junco]

I loved this week's EDD, so much less boring that what we've had in past weeks

[hollow topaz]

am new to the game, do i get the boxes for overclocks only on the first completion of the deep dives?

and where can i see how many i have

[prisma junco]

yes

[hollow topaz]

weekly i assume?

[prisma junco]

you can get a total of 9 per week

they'll appear in your overclock forging station near the Deep Dive terminal

[hollow topaz]

if i dont get them immeadetly they dont dissapear right?

in the station i mean

[prisma junco]

they won't disappear

[hollow topaz]

nice

[summer arch]

is this weeks edd easier than last weeks?

last one was kinda tough ngl

[prisma junco]

I'd say that stage 2 of last week is harder than any of this week's stages

[summer arch]

a suprise, but a welcome one

[jovial edge]

We just had 2 bulks spawn together in second room, 2 together in third and 1 more next on.

[white ridge]

we had a bulk blow up on the dozer at the last health pool

but it was invuln from losing a plate

[chilly mulch]

man wtf is edd stage 2

after 4 tries we got to the end to drill the heartstone, a detonator spawns and blows up the drill

[prisma junco]

it's easy enough to save Dotty with a shield

[chilly mulch]

how does that work

[prisma junco]

exactly as you'd imagine

you just put the shield between the explosion and dotty

[chilly mulch]

all i know that this game has scuffed hitboxes, example is droppod hitboxes when you are trying to shoot bugs clinging to the sides

[prisma junco]

yeah it's not completely consistent, worked for us though

[buoyant wing]

managed to solo the edd

2 bulks and dat terrain

the refinery gave me more trouble than expected

[sturdy nova]

Couldn't you just throw a LURE to pull the detonator away from the drilldozer?

[buoyant wing]

iirc they ignore those

[jovial edge]

@chilly mulch Honestly, if bulk near dozer is your definition of GG — you need better strats.
If bulk is low and near dozer — stop shooting it and recall sentries.

• Kite dozer away. Bugs don't actually want dozer much without you on it. Bulk doesn't care for dozer at all. Just get the heck off the dozer and let bulk come away from it before you finish it.
• When dozer is about to die — freeze it with lots of cryo or coldthrower and then finish it. Won't blow up.
• Also, shield, yeah.

Just in general: stop hugging the dozer, you oafs.

Meanwhile me and the team just lost EDD St. 3 due to neglect of grabbers.

[marble plinth]

Grabbers

[jovial edge]

#drg-gallery message

Tunnel Rat is a must.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[atomic anchor]

Please let me know if you are doing the EDD and need a Driller, Scout, or Engineer

[pastel wasp]

sry this is a gunners only channel

last two weeks have been fantastic tho, hope next weeks lives up to the Elite DD title

[outer fiber]

Jesus fucking christ this EDD.

I don't know how you guys can say it was good, while Doretta were full Pepega vertical multiple times, and it has the worst refinery map ever generated, drop head was in the air, luckily the first pipeline placement is somehow blue

Bad map generation/design for higher difficulty =/= good EDD

[prisma junco]

the pepega doretta route was thrilling! and the gen on the last map isn't that bad if you platform it up a bit and play conservatively around the naturally generated choke point

[outer fiber]

I wouldn't say a map is good because you can cheese the pipe positions with an engineer in your team. You can always do that, my point is the map is not suited for refinery like, I'm not exaggerating when I say that's the worst refinery generation I ever saw. We didn't have an engi, so it made it even worst

I don't have an issue with the mobs or how to play, just the map

[feral atlas]

you can still make do

and that is less of a condemnation of the map, than a condemnation of the class balance

you can wrap around the pipes onto the refinery platofmr and start them from the back

[prisma junco]

the map gen was very challenging yes, but you can get around it well enough with a driller or engi

and you can afford to wrap them together in some possibly confusing ways

[outer fiber]

that's what we were forced to do

[prisma junco]

to make moving around a bit easier

[feral atlas]

you're making it sound like it's torturous to take 20 seconds to reroute the pipes

[outer fiber]

you're making it sound like it's normal to almost be forced to play a class in order to place the pipes

[feral atlas]

it is

when you're planning for EDD you plan around how to not lose to the more common fail scenarios

if there was a bad uplink spot and you didn't have an engi

[outer fiber]

well, some people here would like to play the class they like, especially for high-end content

[feral atlas]

you would have lost as well

then you suffer for making decisions based on likes instead of needs

as is the nature of most end game content

[outer fiber]

I didn't have those needs on the previous EDDs, that's mostly why I say this one is bad

Probably the worst I did

[feral atlas]

then your sample size is probably the recent EDDs which have generally been abnormally easy

especially last month's and the month before that

[split nest]

managed it on the first try with predrilling in stage 2

[outer fiber]

gratz

[split nest]

pretty lucky I guess

[near island]

The things that make this game the most difficult shouldn't even be a thing. The most challenging thing about this weeks Deep Dive and the game in general is the constant clipping (enemies biting toy through objects) and the waves that literally spawn where you are standing. I gave up on the Deep Dive after a couple tries.

[outer fiber]

this edd is just full pepega my man

[dreamy star]

Am I just abnormally unlucky, or is it normal to be fucked by bet-c and multiple oppresors in the elite deep dives

cause fuck man

[outer fiber]

bet-c is on doretta's path for me

gets one-shotted

[dreamy star]

Didn't for me

[outer fiber]

weird

[dreamy star]

So my run was ruined because doretta sucks

[outer fiber]

it definitely does

[near island]

We were trying hard but couldn't get a second to pull our pants up.

[outer fiber]

@near island what mission and what classes

[near island]

We made it to the last round too

The Refinery and two eggs with Shield Disruption Warning I was a driller

[outer fiber]

I needed to save tons of nitra for this one

[near island]

I'm like why am I even doing this?

The final reward doesn't fit the bill.

[outer fiber]

the 3rd mission is very badly done, hopefully next seeds will have better maps generation

[pastel wasp]

defend at the bottom of the map if a wave hits

or in that side area witht he other pump

[near island]

And with the 3.3 update enemies never stop spawning on you for hazard 5 missions.

@pastel wasp noted

[outer fiber]

not convinced about bottom of the map

seems like death flag to me

[pastel wasp]

with your back to that safer to take egg, its a huge open section that you can treat like most salvage objectives

[zealous pond]

just died on the second level: six praetorians and two oppressors in one swarm

[pastel wasp]

that sounds.. not awful?

[zealous pond]

with half the team dead to cave leeches because we only pre-cleared the second cave it was

[near island]

@zealous pond the crazy thing is to actually make it easier you should drill through to the other chambers and kill the leeches.

you did, my bad

[zealous pond]

yeah I knew we were in for a bad time as soon as someone went back and started doretta after only the second cave

I thought we should have drilled straight through to the ommoran and made sure everything was safe ahead of time

[near island]

I feel like as ass for thinking this but I may have to start booting noobs for EDD because it just isn't worth it

[zealous pond]

it's not worth having them fuck everything up

too much time wasted

[old widget]

"Don't push the buttons without asking"

such a simple rule yet so hard to follow it seems

[old widget]

did you have any issues with Doretta pathing with your pre-drill to second cave?

seeing some speculation that the predrilling screws with the pathing algorithm

[outer fiber]

doretta has pathing issue whatever if you pre-drill or not

in this EDD at least

[old widget]

fun

well, only...9 more hours of it?

[dreamy star]

Please no doretta in the new one

[zealous pond]

Nah but we did an unorthodox pre-drill in that the scout did it and took a winding path that saw us come out on top of the ledge to the left as you drive in

[granite ledge]

whats t he best person to use the edd/dd solo

for this week

[prisma junco]

probably Engi?

[granite ledge]

ok bet thx bro

downfall for waiting so late to do them lmao

[near island]

Yeah im good off this EDD.

[outer fiber]

what happened

[crimson pine]

YEAH!!! EDD DONE!!

I saw Doretta go up a gunner's zipline

was pretty funny

[zealous pond]

still didn't make it past the second mission, despite fully pre-clearing this time

Doretta took flight and then I ended up falling through the map after getting downed during the refuel

think I'm going to chalk this week's EDD up

[old widget]

yeah, same

after a 1 hour pre-clear attempt on stage 2

will welcome the sweet release of an EDD refresh

would love to see ghost ship's metrics on % complete for that stage vs other historical EDD stages

[outer fiber]

thats the problem

I'm repeating myself, this edd is full pepega between doretta and 3rd map

hopefully there is never one like this again, or they fix doretta's pathfinding / minehead landings

[crimson pine]

We didnt predrill... just owned stufd. Shidlded the detonators explosions.

Phase 3 was harder!

[ocean scarab]

anyone think drg should have a free battle pass

[vale falcon]

no

[sage vine]

no

[floral hollow]

Next victim to Pepega doretta route: Hi

Only to make matters worse

The moment we entered the first chamber

Betsy was there waiting

[near island]

@outer fiber precleared the level then lost on the defend.

Told the mini gun wielding gunner to focus rocks and let someone else fix tank. On top of that Doretta flew into the sky and the bugs destroyed both tracks while we waited for her slow decent.

[formal root]

I love how greenbeard gunners always stand on top of doretta and get rock squished then you lose mission because everyone goes to help and the next rock gets em

[main talon]

this EDD

kinda special

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[calm dragon]

thank god that desert EDD is over with

[tranquil urchin]

now its back to the Bough

[signal pawn]

Hollow Bough + Escort + Exploder Infestation for the first stage

🙈

[calm dragon]

Oh my god

[quiet mortar]

Oh god

Alright, am checking Dives now

DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Stale Unfortune
Stage 1: 225 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Mactera Plague
Stage 2: 7 Aquarq + 150 Morkite | Rich Atmosphere Shield Disruption
Stage 3: 250 Morkite + 2 Eggs | No Mutators!

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Barbarous Avalanche
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Exploder Infestation!
Stage 2: 10 Aquarq + 📡 1 Black Box | No Mutators!
Stage 3: 250 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs

[signal pawn]

DD S2 - 7 Aquarqs 150 Morkite Rich Atmopshere Shield Disruption

[quiet mortar]

Ouch

[cursive path]

EDD 10 Aquarqs black box no modifiers

Stage 2

[tranquil urchin]

dd 3 - 250 Morkite 2 Eggs no mutations

[quiet mortar]

Damn, normal Dive: Morkite Edition

[cursive path]

EDD 3 250 morkite 2 eggs regenerative bugs

[split nest]

f

[dreamy star]

Kill me

now

[calm dragon]

rip doretta

[dreamy star]

So I can't even get the blank matrix

thank

[calm dragon]

o o p

[crimson pine]

Get carried ! 😛

[dreamy star]

but then I'll feel like a sack of shit for making people do the work for me

thats why I play solo, I don't like being a burden

Low self esteme! yay

[little cove]

Aquarq missions

[tawdry birch]

Can someone give the deep dive generator a smack?

Getting the same set of missions week after week

[pastel wasp]

boo this weeks edd was easy

[tawdry birch]

Are there limits on which mutators can appear on deep dive?

[quiet mortar]

Very little, the only ones outside of Double XP and done for Normal Missions too.
(So no Ghost on Salvage)

[paper finch]

this edd is actually good

[fair spruce]

Great, first round isn't too annoying with all of the exploders?

[paper finch]

kinda

but you can just walk into them and detonate them for free

so

not too bad

[pastel wasp]

thats basically as hard as this one gets

[paper finch]

stage 2 is pe

so you just have to go fast

and there's like 300 nitra

on that stage alone

[fair spruce]

makes sense, last one looks like it should be pretty easy unless you just get some tricky rooms or a bulk in a bad spot

[pastel wasp]

didnt see any bulks at all

[paper finch]

2 bulks

stage

3

[calm dragon]

On no

[marble plinth]

2 bulks aint shit

We had 8 last week

In the EDD

[calm dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/nonononocat-gif-5912898

[ashen eagle]

this regular deep dive is the most easiest shit ever holy hell

3 stages having morkite, no dozer, no dreadnoughts, no refinery 💤

jk i'm not actually comlpaining, nice to have a chill quick oen

[ebon torrent]

hey that doesnt sound too bad

the edd doesnt sound too bad either except for the exploder infestation

[minor saffron]

This weeks EDD was sightseeing , we even brought a lvl 21 Gunner that dished out plenty of dwarf killing Clusters

[ashen eagle]

uuf anything below lvl 40 in my lobby's an insta kick lmao

but i'm starting to stop doing that since you get gold 3's that are absolute donkeys anyway

[calm dragon]

rood

[minor saffron]

nah , he did pretty well overall but cluster throwing is something he needs to work on xD

[onyx agate]

i think he meant, lvl 21 gunner, not lvl 21 player rank which would be impossible

[minor saffron]

it is possible

you can get 1 promotion on 1 class

[onyx agate]

to have an unpromoted player?

[ashen eagle]

yeah if he only did gunner which wouldn't suprise me

[minor saffron]

lvl 21

[ashen eagle]

beating your first edd is a real confidence boost for sure

[minor saffron]

we asked him if he know what hes doing

he said hes fine

so we trusted him

xD

[onyx agate]

yeah, lvl 21 class for a player who promoted at least 1 class

[minor saffron]

but this weeks EDD wasnt hard at all so it was fine going with a greenbeard

[onyx agate]

i did my first EDD as a greenbeard

[formal thorn]

At least dotty is at the beginning, so once you're done with the pain you're done.

[minor saffron]

was far from being a greenbeard when EDDs got added into the game

yeah escort is probably my least fav game mode in drg

[paper finch]

it's a good edd

not hellish like the last one

[marble plinth]

Lets not talk about the last edd

It was traumatizing

Anyone who finished it knows

Anyone who tried it knows

It was possibly the hardest EDD to date.

[cobalt fiber]

I would say the one two weeks ago before the hotfix was almost equally hard.

[olive tulip]

Probably the hardest edd will be a stage 3 escort mactera swarm magma core

If the bugs dont kill dotty, the environs will

proceeds to drill into a lava geyser and explodes

[calm dragon]

me

[ashen eagle]

i just had a lvl 15 try and join my edd lobby

[marble plinth]

Still only took 2 tries, well first try failed as i angrily ranted about the incompetent gunner

Next round i picked the gunner and we made it through

[celest oasis]

how is this weeks' dives lol

[onyx agate]

lookin good'

[wraith shard]

Interesting. I've had a mix of players, one had a rank of 1995, and he sucked badly. Another level 32 engi who basically carried the whole team. But overall, just let them play, you never know who will pull off some awesome game play.

[wraith shard]

Congrats!

[onyx agate]

ty ty

im not even sure what that means but im happy i was able to be a part to complete it

[vocal maple]

this weeks edd is much easier than last weeks

I wish escort was on stage 3

[quartz badge]

Kind of true but in my experience, low Levels usually make EDD's really hard and i don't always want to deal with that. Anyway, i think you should state a certain LVL requirement in your Server title instead of kicking people

[ashen eagle]

yeah i've got a lot more leniant the more and more lvl 600+ i find that are toxic/shitty

in the words of a wise man "drop pod ain't waiting forever"

[ashen eagle]

the amount of people that ignore that lmao

[wraith shard]

Yeah, its just good policy. This game, this forum, and the players, new and hardcore stand out in the gaming world as cooperative and helpful, as long as people listen and learn. I've got over 3000 missions and have kicked a fraction, because players will sometimes listen if you offer a plan or advice. I'm not the best or even a top player but I know the job of every dwarf, so I know what to expect.

[quartz badge]

Also true but then it's legit to kick imo ^^

[ashen eagle]

yeah i feel i'm probably one of the more knitpicky types, i'm glad the average dwarf is super friendly

[quartz badge]

Good attitude! 🙂

[wraith shard]

not all level 600+ are toxic

[celest oasis]

how many hours does it take to get to max promoted rank?

[wraith shard]

so much that today I helped a group of random people

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700957752650104972/811985419121983488/unknown.png

[quartz badge]

In my experience (and that's a lot) toxic players, high lvl or not, are really rare fortunately 🙂

[wraith shard]

Keeps the game fresh, Chief, and it works for me! I have a laugh on almost every game, on some incredible play, especially rescues. And what a rush when you see a gunner drop a shield over the supply pod to help out a team mate during a wave, or a scout lighting up the field, a driller mining expertly with the EPC or napalming a swarm while a dwarf is running hell bent for the drop pod, or an engi dropping plats to break falls.

[ashen eagle]

i never said that lmao

but good for you dude

[wraith shard]

850-950 hrs

[quartz badge]

100% agreed 🙂

[celest oasis]

Im about 400 hours in still at gold 1 lol

[wraith shard]

Sounds about right.

[celest oasis]

altho I got three chars to gold, one at silver3

[wraith shard]

Alright, time to go into the EDD! Want to see what its all about.

[calm sequoia]

Hello, can anyone tell me when the weekly deep dive seed resets, please? Thanks.

[brave atlas]

🤣 Started the dozer. 10 seconds later a group of exploders spawned right under it. There goes first piece of armor. 💩

[onyx agate]

today

[calm sequoia]

So every Thursday?

[wraith shard]

yes

[onyx agate]

idk the exact calendar day but it seems to be so

[calm sequoia]

Ok, thanks everyone

[wraith shard]

every Thursday 13h (UTC + 1)

[calm sequoia]

Nice thank you

[wraith shard]

😄

[brave atlas]

This week EDD escort is worse than last week

Op + exploders + webbers + trijaws + flying rocks at the same time = dead dozer

let hope a group of exploders does not spawn under doretta on my second try

an extra layer of armor would have saved me

[minor saffron]

Delicate Thing as susual. Veteran players are bored to death with Elite dives like this but many players struggle and they still keep trying because its connected to progress / Loot. In DRG chat we recently talked that the Word "Elite" should mean Elite

and it still doesnt to me

[wraith shard]

Not so much, the point is to have a good cryogenic cannon driller to control the waves

[minor saffron]

Thw whole purpose of having a mission that stays consistent is that you can adjust and try again. But an Elite Dive rarely even does that and there is a huge playerbase of veteran players

maybe removing loot from Elite dives would help so normal players wont getr frustrated and can move on

or cores in general , just give normal rewards

[wraith shard]

That the secret is to go decorating the cave patterns what comes and where everything is generated on the map

[minor saffron]

or add a 3rd one called "Hell Dive" or smt. no cores to gain , just the real hardcore challenge for people that like to come up with strategies and adjust

[wraith shard]

I think this is relative

although many people get angry, she insists on trying and, over time, learning how they really should act in a team that can get better and better

[brave atlas]

My issue with the latest patch is how the rewards are not matching the difficulty level. I am talking about hazard 5.

[minor saffron]

haz5 in general is super inconsistent

[brave atlas]

I notice dying a lot more because part of how much faster the bugs are moving now.

[minor saffron]

or difficulty in the game in general

[brave atlas]

So I feel that you better be doing haz 4 most of the time.

[wraith shard]

the fact is that when a person wins EDD he feels it was a personal achievement after all and brings a unique feeling!

[minor saffron]

in some haz5 missions you have to check if you really played haz5 or if you selected the wrong thing

[brave atlas]

The risk vs reward for haz 4 is just right.

[wraith shard]

the fact that we didn't find in DD

[brave atlas]

Yes, some haz5 don't even spawn bugs on a certain time interval which makes the missions really easy.

No exploders spawn under drilldozer so far...

[minor saffron]

i think the numbers are great in haz 5 -5.5 in terms of damage dealt and taken and all

but sometimes there is just nothing to fight

play 30 minutes ... kill 40 bugs

when it should be more like

play 30 minutes kill 400 bugs

it can be anything up to both ends which makes the difficulty scaling kinda random

even if the bugs move faster and deal more damage etc.

[olive tulip]

...

I take minigun and we clear stage 1 but lose stage 2

I take ac we lose stage 1

Why

Why is hearthstone floating rocks so stupid

[fringe kettle]

that boils down to two things. Either you need to get better at clearing swarms with the minigun, or your teammates need to contribute more when killing rocks.

[eager parcel]

You can also have engi build a safety net with platforms to break any rocks you miss

[hazy comet]

blowthrough rounds is basically a must for minigun if you're doing anything other than dreads

[brave atlas]

Third try. Finished EDD under an hour https://ibb.co/fGYBdVX

First stage was hellish

Thanks for RNG with the exploder spawning.

[rigid dove]

Almost got past first stage

Then gunner exploded me on hearthstone phase 4

[robust sedge]

Do you still get Bosco in DDs?

Even with Bosco Scout has a hella hard time with escort missions and eliminations

[viral tulip]

You do, yes

[upbeat fable]

do you have some performance tweaks installed?

[jovial turret]

reddit's weird today. What's today's Deep Dives?

[cobalt hemlock]

https://discordapp.com/channels/257785731072786435/626770765525680170/811932461197688843

[jovial turret]

thanks

[cobalt hemlock]

[feral atlas]

This EDD was super easy

almost kinda disappointing

[random path]

what disappointing is going through a whole deep dive with 300 ping and then the lobby crashing at the 3rd mission right before molly docks the dropship to leave

[rigid dove]

Stage 1 was a pain due to exploders

But stage 2 and 3 were a walk in the park

[tawdry quest]

Stage 1 is a lot easier if you clear the caves ahead of time

As with all Escort missions

[crisp belfry]

Did my first DD, 49:38. Trying to get the sub 45 achievement

I was in a group tho

[mossy dune]

What is the difference between a deep dive and elite deep dive?

[prisma junco]

DD difficulty scaling goes 3 - 3.5 - 3.5, EDD is 4.5 - 5 - 5.5

[crisp belfry]

Yeah I didn’t have it

Yeah im just gonna run it until I get lucky

[late prawn]

what are the missions on the regular deep dive this week?

[junior moon]

First is morkite/mules

[crisp belfry]

So everyone has the same one?

[vale falcon]

yeah, its a shared, constant seed for the whole week

its updated in the Pinned messages here

(Ty Muffin Cat)

[late prawn]

ty!

[random atlas]

does this weeks EDD have a escort again? (i would read above to find out but i dont want spoilers other than this question)