Easier said then done
#deep-dive-discussion
feral atlas
Sound like their fault
Once you encounter that spitballer once
you kinda should be prepared
feral atlas
then they don't deserve to win
drowsy spruce
Guess I'm gonna try to check for people on discord for chat
It's starting to get annoying
feral atlas
it's past the weekend
sleek verge
definitely easier said than done but it really is just about protecting doretta and filling canisters when it's calm
feral atlas
most of the good people have already done their EDD and moved on
you're just getting leftovers at this point
feral atlas
It is what is is. If you want to win with pubs, do it before sunday.
feral atlas
Otherwise, the randoms in the queue metaphorically start scraping the bottom of the barrel.
wed is obviously the worst
and tue is not far behind
drowsy spruce
It's not as bad, i am a last minute deep diver occasionally
But exclusively run them with friends
I had good success with engineer plasma trail BC but sustained life is not as good as melee driller
gusty inlet
🔵▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ 1m 52s / 5m 54s
vale falcon
mortal thorn
@deep coral Yep
We had a team with all classes, lvl 73 min, randoms. Did it first try, but I definitely noticed that two of our players were not ready for the lethal enemies + dozer (they died 9 times).
I think that if you have at least two players who are used to haz 5, you can finish this EDD just fine
deep coral
@mortal thorn think this new seed is harder or easier than the last one? I really liked the old seed for its difficulty.
deep coral
yeah, today
deep coral
cause of the 1 stop change for deep dives
wintry cairn
what 1 stop change
deep coral
Hotfix #3 for Steam
deep coral
- Removed the 2-stop escort mission from Deep Dives.
I really liked the old seed, but I think it was just tedious for players to have to do such long missions just to fail.
wintry cairn
Yeah that did make it kind of long
deep coral
it's just that this mission in particular, it was interesting. The drilldozer stopped very close to spawn to refuel.
wintry cairn
Yeah
deep coral
It stopped right at the entrance of the tunnel
wintry cairn
I liked the room right after the first stop
deep coral
It was a very fun and challenging mission, me and my friends beat first try
however when I played the new EDD with randoms, we failed.
wintry cairn
in 4p there was a spitballer on high ground and it was easy to get wrecked in the open area
wintry cairn
Yeah same, I think I beat it first time with randoms but of high level
deep coral
only the second mission was changed
I'm just wondering if people think the new seed is harder or easier
wintry cairn
The next couple times with low levels it was a problem
deep coral
I feel like it may be harder
wintry cairn
People just aren't supposed to go down that much
in dozer missions
because you'll still lose dozers
deep coral
yeah, dozer missions especially with lethal enemies, harder for players not used to hazard 5
I like elite deep dives a lot, when they are challenging
makes me want to replay them
wintry cairn
I got a gout of non AC gunners who were just running out of ammo a lot too
but yeah
that room made callouts actually relevant
The time we won we had everyone doing what they're supposed to be
deep coral
it was such a massive room, in comparison to the current one, for the heartstone
wintry cairn
driller covering exploders with cryo, AC firing at COM, scout calling out HVTs and IFGing the det, etc.
Engi covering tunnel flank with BC
thats how it should be imo
deep coral
new heartstone room is so small
wintry cairn
If you don't play optimally at the highest difficulty you should fail
wintry cairn
but it could have been shorter
deep coral
But I fear the devs may lower the difficulty for elite deep dives
wintry cairn
if that mission was just the first two rooms I' think it woould have been fine
I don't think thats their intention
deep coral
sometimes normal *edit: haz5 missions are just way harder
wintry cairn
2 stop dozers and complexity 3 refineries can take significantly longer
It feels bad for the speedruners for example
deep coral
yeah, so I slightly agree with them for changing the 2 stop to just being 1 stop
I just don't agree cause this generation was so interesting and unique for a drilldozer mission
wintry cairn
They haven't reseeded harder EDDS in the past
deep coral
oh that's nice, thanks for giving me that bit of information
wintry cairn
so I really wouldn't worry about it
deep coral
I feel like it might be harder with this smaller room
and potential for two bulk detonators to spawn at once
it really needs coordination
needs one bulk to die and kill the other away
wintry cairn
I think they have for example patched bugs that were made more obvious by EDDS and then not changed the EDD
like the one with the missing mule legs
two bulks is arguably easier than one bulk
deep coral
I'm just slightly disappointed since, like I said, the generation was really cool.
wintry cairn
they die together and they consume a huge amount of the enemy budget
deep coral
yeah, just the randoms I was playing with separated the aggro of them
it's also startling to see that happen on a drilldozer mission
deep coral
BB?
wintry cairn
black box
deep coral
oh yeah, definitely. I think there was one Elite Deep Dive not too long ago like that
deep coral
I swear they are, this EDD pre and new seed had plenty that people mentioned they saw
do you know how the pre-seeded enemy generation works? Is it a pool it selects from?
wintry cairn
Sure
But its not like they always spawn in the same wave
or there are the same number of them
At least for me I get 1-2 bulks each mission 2 but never in the same place
its probably the fact that its long + confirmation bias that contributes to the misconception that they are preseeded
hot tide
ngl i feel like these deep dives are a poor introduction to the new biomes the modifiers for the azure weld mean half the time you are more concerned with getting oxygen or running away from low shield than they do checking out the new biome
mortal thorn
Yeah, Im okay with the difficulty and modifiers, since I have 200 hours in this game, but new players who prolly decided to do their first deep dives, and were unlucky enough to start this week...
wintry cairn
idk
I for one miss the days where there was a goal to keep in mind that I had not yet beat
mortal thorn
I understand your position. When I was really interested in playing DRG (like 6 months ago), I was eager to try new elite deep dives, and even If I failed, I wasnt discouraged, it was a challenge to overcome, I didnt ask devs to nerf anything.
But I dont think that greenbeards want to overcome and get better. They just want to have fun and explore their new game
hot tide
nah i mean in general this was the intro update for the new biomes and the cave gen isn't anything good or even like usual for the biomes, this was meant to be a showcase but it was just aggrevating to transverse
wintry cairn
I don't think EDD attempters should be greenbeards
if you're lvl 25 you can attempt DDs
you're allowed to attempt EDDs but the way that they are presented - its fine if you don't win
my expectation for a greenbeard in an EDD is that they will need to be carried
I also don't think people should be expecting that EDDs are a good intro to the new biomes - EDDs are supposed to be optional end game content. No content is locked behind them
if anything having relatively challenging modifiers/mapgen on EDDs is good for showcasing what endgame content on the new biomes is like.
timber zenith
Honest the EDDs don't seem that difficult. Besides stage 2 of this week, the last 4-5 sets have be relatively easy
prisma junco
yeah they've been uncannily easy for a while now
nice to see this one break with that trend
ruby crag
Level as with almost every other game just represents the rough amount of time you invested in the game. I've played with lv. 100 players that were way worse that lv. 20 ones.
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echo edge
They didn t fix the bug yet that makes bugs deal more melee DMG to Doretta, it probably contributes alot to it being harder than usual
raw lichen
mfw i managed to clear stage two of this weeks edd but then my internet dies on the third
pastel parrot
F
red ridge
Is anyone else having problems with there being almost no minerals in deep dives?
dull zenith
That's not a problem, aside from Huuli Hoarders, deep dives have nothing but gold and nitra
rare zephyr
only took me an hour and a half but I finished my first solo deep dive.. it sucked
untold creek
it depends on adapting your playstyle
they’re pretty nice but probably won’t get as much done as detonators for example
a good build focuses on ammo and spread reduction, as well as blow through to deal damage while placing mines
a build I was reccomended was 1121x
fresh escarp
Are the Cryo Minelets for the Zhukov worth it?
It's trash ngl
feral atlas
short answer is "no" to cryo minelets
fresh escarp
Like, straight trash. Don't use it because to be honest, it's so weak it's sad
feral atlas
there isn't really even an argument for playstyle, it downright sucks
untold creek
really?
Then I have gotten mixed signals
I guess it’s another detonator superiority thing
feral atlas
on haz5, when I see it I basically mentally count out the scout
as a disable it is too inconsistent
even stock weapon is better
just kill it instead of freezing
fresh escarp
Does embedded dets activate via born ready?
feral atlas
dunno, probably not
fresh escarp
OH IF IT DOESNT IM ABUSING THIS SHIT
untold creek
It might have a timer on it anyways idk
if it’s abusable I’d assume it was caught at this point
feral atlas
in any case, unless something actually disables on hit or has a massive AoE, pure CC in this game is garbage
this applies to every "minelet" type debuff
feral atlas
the very fact that cryo minelets are on a timer means that not only do you have to count on bug pathing being consistent, which is isn't always, it tends to miss freeze threadholds on anything worth freezing
untold creek
that’s been my largest issue overall
feral atlas
you're better only just shooting it in the face
with a normal weapon
dead things don't need freezing
untold creek
it’s such a cool idea but it’s so inconsistent
I cannot freeze anything past a grunt
and it’s inconsistent in that even
feral atlas
compare this to the phosphorus rounds on boomstick
I shoot it, it's on fire
it's a weaker status effect
but if my aim is right, 100% of the time it works
consistent performance is important, more so than max payoff
untold creek
cryo minelets are too unreliable, basically, the 1 second arm time completely ruins any plans you could have with it without loosing out on all of the damage by shooting the ground
I do hope it gets buffed
electro too but that one is trickier
feral atlas
electro has a different problem
on top of the incosistency
- BRT already has a stun mod on
untold creek
the effect has like no impact basically
echo edge
Does embedded dets activate via born ready?
Go to #drg-gallery
prisma junco
Does embedded dets activate via born ready?
no
craggy vigil
do you get anything for saving the drill?
formal thorn
no
And since it already takes Molly quite a bit of time to get to the pod, because our walking robots are not like in Black Mirror, you can easily beat Molly to the pod with the head, and still have to wait and fight bugs. And you can throw the head most of the way.
fresh escarp
Go to <#565850434376302613>
Im abusing this
remote breach
whoever decided to pick eggs on this week's elite deep dive and triggered swarms before the escort mission was complete:
please, do us all a favor. go back to the tutorial, and never leave it.
untold creek
I’m mostly wondering if it’s even usually worth saving time for it
it’s 15 seconds at least to get 3 clips in them
buuut, there is the fact that it skips dread phases, so it might be worth trying even if dread changes have kind of altered the timings or made it harder to take advantage of
prisma junco
it's not useful
kind bough
wow, I am amazed my duo mission 2 of EDD this week
that melee damage bug is quite spicy
rare lance
@fresh escarp born ready doesnt activate the embedded dets especially on the zhukov
from what i remember
fresh escarp
@rare lance so i was told. Im going to abuse thos
rare lance
abuse time
fresh escarp
IM SO EXCITED FOR TOMORROW!!!
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drowsy spruce
It's such a drag that i haven't completed this week's EDD
mortal thorn
Still have 11 hours lol
feral atlas
not worth it
the only people still trying at the moment are the bottom of the barrel in terms of skill
trust me
you'll only torture yourself
neon badger
So, our deep dive today, about 5 seconds after we opened the dreadnought cocoon and got the terrible twosome, we also got an an apparent random appearance of a Hive Guard. We died, naturally. Was this just the world's worst bad luck? Or is it part of this deep dive?
mortal thorn
I got the same situation. Deep dives are seeded IIRC.
neon badger
now I regret trying again for science. Oh well!
mortal thorn
Lol, I had 2 greenbeards in my team, also first time in this biome... That was not easy
jade fjord
I managed to get through edd an hour ago after the nth try
had two lvl 150+ that helped me through
neon badger
Science says: the second time, we didn't get a Dreadnought Hive Guard spawning at the same time as the terrible twins
Only significant difference was 4 players the second time, 3 the first. 🤷♂️
that was a tough one, though! Glad to be through
dark gulch
I didn't think it was as bad as I was expecting from all this chatter
the landscape of the second stage was the worst part, had a few folks fall to their death a bunch of times
quasi bison
just lost the edd cuz dozer ran over a detonator right as it spawned 
dark gulch
no double dreadnaught for us, FYI.
drowsy spruce
just lost the edd cuz dozer ran over a detonator right as it spawned <:notnice:6...
Sorry for my cousin
His spawns on people like that without warning
proven rune
Gn everyone, I tried running DRG on my pc on Ultra settings and the temperatures are going over 90ºC, is the recommended specs the "minimum" for going Ultra?
I got a i3 8100 Intel CPU, GTX 1660 and 16 RAM if someone asks.
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fiery granite
100% afterwards
hardy ridge
What do you guys think of the normal DD?
gentle badger
sucks
hardy ridge
We completly forgot about o2 on the way back, everyone died and we barely made it 
gentle badger
low O2 and shield disrupt on a combat-intensive mission
hardy ridge
The shield disrupt went surprisingly well but I see how this could easily fail a DD
gentle badger
yeah for my team it went better than I thought too
I feel like I take less damage than normal during a shield disrupt mission
hardy ridge
Are the twin Dreads Deep dive only or are they in regular missions too? Or is it random if it's 1 Dread or 2?
I didn't do a elimination after the update yet
formal thorn
They are in everything and you can have any type of dread for any elimination and any dread random spawn. In one mission they will not appear twice.
celest oasis
does the drop pod always spawn back in the first room after an escort?
hardy ridge
Ah okay thanks
hardy ridge
does the drop pod always spawn back in the first room after an escort?
In the last Escort Mission I played the escape pod spawned in the next room like 100m away
formal thorn
I took their question as “are the twins only in dives?” Rather than “do the dreads change in dives?” But I think you’re right that the dreads are seeded. @celest oasis
Restore save in options
hardy ridge
I think dreads are seeded now for dives?
Oh okay so in Deep dives Dread spawn is always the same but in the regular missions it's random I suppose
formal thorn
Or steam cloud save
subtle charm
how do i do that :p
formal thorn
Well the first is in the game menu. The second is in Settings in steam.
celest oasis
Oh okay so in Deep dives Dread spawn is always the same but in the regular missi...
yea
subtle charm
found it
hardy ridge
I took their question as “are the twins only in dives?” Rather than “do the drea...
Well I asked both things but my wording was confusing probably
celest oasis
nope all the new dreads appear in new missions
hardy ridge
How many Dread types are there now? 
formal thorn
3
tidal stump
phew, managed to do the EDD with 25 minutes to spare
formal thorn
So if you have a 3 dread elim you fight them all. Like some crazy version of Pokémon.
hardy ridge
I only know the twin and... well I guess they didn't remove the old dread
hardy ridge
So if you have a 3 dread elim you fight them all. Like some crazy version of Pok...
Woah that's nice
formal thorn
Wait til you meet the Hiveguard. That thing is a beast.
subtle charm
@formal thorn thank u kind sir , it worked
hardy ridge
Wait til you meet the Hiveguard. That thing is a beast.
Yikes
formal thorn
<@!803728838222938182> thank u kind sir , it worked
🤌 glad to help
hardy ridge
Also on reddit I heard that the Dread is a bit over tuned rn what's your opinion on this?
formal thorn
I think it could be harder lol
cobalt hemlock
We completly forgot about o2 on the way back, everyone died and we barely made i...
We all died off on our first attempt at the o2 as well, ended up forcing a more favorable drop pod location by backtracking a bit before calling it in 
formal thorn
But realisticallly the tuning is good. It’s certainly not too hard.
hardy ridge
We all died off on our first attempt at the o2 as well, ended up forcing a more ...
Our mistake was that we forgot about o2 and followed the Driller instead of molly
formal thorn
Before the update dreads were way too easy. People got used to clobbering an enemy that was supposed to be really tough.
hardy ridge
But we somehow made it by constantly reviving each other
cobalt hemlock
oh rip. we pretty much never play low-o2 missions so everyone just panicked and got too spread out to revive
hardy ridge
I always respected the dreads even before the update. There were only a handful of fights where I thought that it was over too fast
And then of course there are things like a swarm or bet-c or that plant during a Dread fight
echo edge
So if you have a 3 dread elim you fight them all. Like some crazy version of Pok...
Not necessarily you can get the same dread for the 1st and 3rd egg, the only logic is you can't get the same twice in a row
formal thorn
TIL
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quiet mortar
DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Fierce Summit
Stage 1: 
3 M.U.L.E.s + 
150 Morkite | 
Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 
6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Exploder Infestation
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | No Mutators!
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Fractured Ledge
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 
1 Classic Dreadnought | Rich Atmosphere Regenerative Bugs
Stage 2: 
Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 2 Eggs | Shield Disruption
tawdry birch
Are the dread spawns on Deep Dives part of the seed that gets generated or is it randomised at Egg popping time?
quiet mortar
I believe they are seeded now, but am unsure (If they 100% are will start marking Dread type)
cobalt fiber
I did the previous DD twice and I got the same dreads each time.
lament pawn
The one in the Azure Weald?
cobalt fiber
Yes.
lament pawn
And the dreads spawns if you remember?
cobalt fiber
Hiveguard and the regular one in that exact order.
keen shale
if they are seeded then they should be included along with stage info
it's pretty important
lament pawn
We got the same then.
If it is the case, they stated they would.
I could test with the current EDD.
tawdry birch
In which case it isn't seeded. I did it with an friend last night and got the twins in both missions 1 and 3
Good job team :)
cobalt fiber
Was that pre or post hotfix? I did it post hotfix.
lament pawn
Muffin seemingly got a classic dread, I'll see if I get the same after running the mission a couple times.
tawdry birch
Post. I did it last night
lament pawn
I've tested using the current first mission of the EDD and got a classic dreadnought every single time out of 5 attempts of the test, the same as Muffin. I'd wager that it is seeded considering how unlikely it is to get the same result so consistently. Though, Moose, your statements suggest otherwise.
quiet mortar
Well lol, let's say seeded for now until someone says otherwise
Worst case some guy gets twins XD
signal pawn
yeah its seeded, didnt the devs say so? 😮
tawdry birch
I'm happy to keep getting the twins. They seem the easiest to overcome now. My first experience with the Hiveguard was terrifying and the OG dread seems a lot tougher now
sand agate
Seeded dreads and just 1 stop during escort on deep dives are indeed good decisions
You can´t change my mind
lament pawn
Is it still possible to get two escort missions in one deep dive?
tranquil urchin
it has happened before. Not long ago stage 1 and 3 in the EDD were escort 2-stops
little cove
Three 2-stop escort edd, a.k.a. "Highway to Hell"
merry monolith
3 complexity refineries could be significantly harder than average with the wrong party
This one was.. interesting? lots of verticality but nothing too bad
formal thorn
Well the EDD looks more doable than last weeks that's for sure. I kind of wish we would get the dozer on the first leg though and just get it over with.
formal thorn
yeah tbh that's probably one of the easier ones for that missions
pastel wasp
ive never seen a haunted escort, is that a thing?
burnt sandal
ive never seen a haunted escort, is that a thing?
I guess it is possible ? That would be bad though
proven bluff
I dont think haunted escort can happen.
proven bluff
And by extension, no haunted black box in deep dives
(I hope)
Also regarding seeded dreads, when I did the normal DD last week, every single dread was a classic. Was that true for everyone?
formal thorn
no I don't think so iirc.
Well, we did get the twins, but that might have been a random spawn and not the map dread
I scrolled back to check and yes they were a random spawn
pastel wasp
before the hotfix it was random, after hotfix (3?) it was seeded to be the same
woven juniper
ground based enemies still wrecking doretta due to glitch ?
brave atlas
Advance warning for EDD this week: On stage 2, bring a driller and drill ahead to clear "the obstacle" before you start up the drilldozer. Otherwise 95% you will fail.
brave atlas
Digging works too, it is not too far away. Should be easy digging through soft sand.
proven bluff
Digging has an impact on doretta's route?
I always assumed it was a bit random
I remember people complaining last week about the fuel stop taking place way up off the ground, but i didn't get that issue
brisk pagoda
they did a hotfix a few days after weekly reset to force 1 refill in dd escort
so it probably changed the stopping position
brave atlas
Digging does have an impact on the route
You could potentially make doretta flies up in the air instead of taking the normal route.
Happened to me a few times. I know this for sure because they happened during EDDs.
Doretta takes different routes depends on how or where I dig.
prisma junco
Gonna try to attempt tonight, thanks for the tip
outer shard
just tried the EDD with that tip after failing there at least 4 times today, really saved us
just unfortunate that we had a gunner that never used their shields and refilled constantly at 4 full bars, lost the at the third stage because of them :\
random path
this EDD sucked so hard wow
we didnt fail, but it was real rough
worse than last week for me lol
pure ravine
Is there really any lore on why the bugs attack the oil pipes
prisma junco
the noise compels them
pure ravine
They attack doretta because its a literal mining tank
An actual source of seismic activity
fringe kettle
Is there really any lore on why the bugs attack the oil pipes
bugs hate noise
feral atlas
God, I'm tired of throwers and morons.
Engi just detonated the bulk right on the drill.
Gotta take a break, it's amatuer hour.
pure ravine
But do pipes themselves actually make noise
little cove
Is there really any lore on why the bugs attack the oil pipes
Bugs have no discernable eyes, so it's safe to presume they go by noise/vibrations
pure ravine
Shouldnt they be bitting the main oilrig itself by that logic
Thing has a trainhorn and hammer piston
feral atlas
I'm probably going to have to solo this one or do a pre-made.
Too many players without basic common sense.
random path
yeah this edd is probably easier solo
feral atlas
first attempt engi blast bursters me, and tries to just hold revive while he's obviously getting attacked
second attempt, different engi kills a bulk right on the drill at the refueling stop
between this and people not looking up so they get passed around by the leeches, solo is the way to go
formal thorn
I'll be on in 4 hours or so and I don't do those things if you still haven't beat it
but I'll LFG here probably, I have better luck with that than the in game menu
atomic anchor
if i do a deep dive again, will i get another overclock, or do i need to wait for a new deep dive
formal thorn
you get one blank, weapon, and cosmetic per first completion of a Deep Dive and Elite Deep Dive per week.
formal thorn
soloing?
formal thorn
oof, bud. Good luck.
pastel wasp
i think a wave hit at the same time, mission control said something about them backing down
burnt sandal
Is there really any lore on why the bugs attack the oil pipes
Glyphids has no eyes so they attack everything making too much noise as it is seen as an invasion of their territory
rocky heart
who know why i can't get cores for deep dive finish? it happen already 2 times
burnt sandal
who know why i can't get cores for deep dive finish? it happen already 2 times
you already finished it ?
rocky heart
yes
formal thorn
burnt sandal
Then that's why
formal thorn
that's why
alpine marten
man I feel really bad
I threw two dives because I brought max range c4 as driller
and killed myself while I was the only guy left alive
ruby crag
Digging has an impact on doretta's route?
I do believe the Doretta's AI is similar to that of a M.U.L.E. That is, it will try to reach the checkpoint following a path if there's already one or by drilling the way if none is found.
ancient radish
does doretta just fly up then dig straight down in the edd for anyone else?
brave atlas
On my first failed attempt, no. Second successful run, yes.
I had to drill my way up there to push the dang thing along
ancient radish
ye for me it was just in the air vertically
couldnt even get to it unless youre scout
brave atlas
Mine was like a 70 degree angle toward the right wall
atomic anchor
why is it so much easier to just solo a deep dive
atomic anchor
yeah true
frail zodiac
less mobs, free freeze and electrocution from bosco
alpine marten
man I disconnected on the third stage
this elite deep dive is sucking the life out of me
rigid dove
Holy shit this EDD is not fun at all
Stage one is fine and speedrunny
Stage two is just about the worst seed I have ever seen
I'm gonna try solo cause 3 and 4 people does not work out at all
rigid dove
I'm gonna guess they don't screen the deep dives before releasing them
tame verge
alpine marten
it's not that hard outside of the last stage
Probably gonna solo the EDD with driller just to get it over with
sinful rover
stage 3 is just as bad, fucking vents everywhere and the terrain is extremely vertical, one bad move and you're done
alpine marten
Yeah the vents all over the possible pipe routs
and constant waves of bugs
I was just about to beat it too, before I disconnected
and I couldn't reconnect through the server browser for some reason
sinful rover
this is by far the worst edd I ever attempted
and it's so damn tedious to get to the actual difficult part
40 minutes down the drain with each attempt
prisma junco
huh
alpine marten
that's why I'm going to do it solo
prisma junco
peoples' complaints are with the terrain?
alpine marten
there's an oddly large amount of leeches too
on stage 3
stage 2 has the modifier but even stage 3 has a ton
sinful rover
yeah that's how my first run ended
sinful rover
ran to the platform, 3 captured by leech then bulk spawned
alpine marten
I feel bad, all my runs have ended either to me committing suicide via c4 or disconnecting, it's a special kind of frustrating
random path
stage 3 is just as bad, fucking vents everywhere and the terrain is extremely ve...
dude
the vents fucked my team
but we struggled and finished it
they were everywhere
little cove
Sounds like EDDs are living up to their name again
alpine marten
it's certainly a bit tough
most of my deaths during the dive were due to poor positioning
there aren't a lot of areas to take advantage of, lots of narrow ridges that don't offer much time to shoot the bugs
and obviously a lot of leeches you need to be aware of
the hearthstone fight was actually pretty easy
since it's an open flat room with plenty of space to shoot
alpine marten
I did fine as driller and scout
I'd say driller since that's the class I'm gonna play it solo with
wraith shard
for EDD positioning is key, had to carry the whole team as Scout on stage 3 cuz gunner had poor positioning and kept dying
prisma junco
what weapons would everyone recommend?
wraith shard
what class?
wraith shard
gunner autocannon is good on escort
sinful rover
Cryo cannon if you play driller
prisma junco
Cryo is p much a given
wraith shard
Cryo is the best element in the game
engineer PGL nuke is also a good choice if you're responsible or take the friendly fire perk
stubby shock build is good for stalling
for scout anything works imo just play what best suits you
sinful rover
Controversial but I really like gunner toxic autocanon especially solo. Excellent crowd control because you can slow the horde down immensely
prisma junco
I'd rather just kill them with CB tbh
prisma junco
stubby shock build is good for stalling
😩 Stubby and Nuke is my standard Engi
alpine marten
Nice
wraith shard
same @prisma junco
sinful rover
I found the damage difference to be negligible in actual gameplay, rarely are the groups large enough to take full advantage of cb
prisma junco
it's not just large groups, it's also range
alpine marten
also the only refuel area is very close to the start
you can drill to it early and clear it out
wraith shard
2 of the rooms on escort have 13 leeches combined
prisma junco
so stupid that this is still a thing
alpine marten
for sure
my gunner died from it
Also there are no mactera spawns during the third stage
just tons and tons of glyphids
prisma junco
so nuke would be a good option
alpine marten
There's like, no room to use the nuke on stage 3
it's all so cramped
Gahhhh I was so close but I just had to disconnect
prisma junco
maybe Fire PGL or BC then
prisma junco
I'm not that comfortable on BC really, I haven't played it enough since U32
alpine marten
fire pgl with a good radius may be useful yeah
graceful prism
current EDD is a$$ with Dozie being made out of paper. Also I need to repair it constantly so I can't shoot things
Failed it now three times with two dwarfs + BET-C, everytime due to dozies HP 😡 (also had no luck with 4 dwarfs)
Drilldozer need either more HP or a faster healrate at higher haz 🙄
graceful prism
those are ez after four tries 😅 knew every location and highten senses is a godsend
graceful prism
Stage two is just about the worst seed I have ever seen
jup, same
rigid dove
Alright so, it took an hour, but I did it solo
Solo is WAYYYY more manageable
No bulk on stage 2 for me, a Bet C to help me fight
Solo Driller is the way to go
graceful prism
how was the repair to shoot balance in stage 2? 😄
grave hinge
dedsec and me had like 4-5 bulks
graceful prism
dedsec and me had like 4-5 bulks
ALWAY when dozie was below 50% MAIN hp
whats stage 3?
haven't seen it yet 😢
alpine marten
what do mean Bet-c?
Are you talking about the regular dive?
I didn't see a Bet-c
grave hinge
in stage 2 is a bet-c with 1 or 2 players
rigid dove
No, I'm talking EDD
alpine marten
oh damn
grave hinge
dunno about 3
alpine marten
that's huge
rigid dove
Stage 3 is morkite refinement with 2 eggs
alpine marten
Alright I'm certainly doing it solo now
proven bluff
Can bet-c spawn on escort? That sounds like the actual worst
graceful prism
a bit to fast on high haz imo
alpine marten
y'know I'm going to try it solo right now
proven bluff
I always 2 man EDD's with my scout buddy
alpine marten
I'm doing it as a cryo epc driller
proven bluff
My friend is amazing at playing ring around the ravenous hoard when I fuck up and go down
rigid dove
I'm doing it as a cryo epc driller
That’s the ideal build for this IMO
fresh escarp
<:Deep_Dive:631070801898242061>**DEEP DIVE**<:Deep_Dive:631070801898242061>
Regi...
did console get the new biomes or no?
alpine marten
clearing out the cave early also makes things easier in stage 2
rather than having doretta tag along
eager parcel
It also makes doretta drive on the roof for some reason lol
rigid dove
Dotty snorted a little something before the dive
modern tundra
all the EDDs ive failed this week were because of BET-C
Good to know, haven't started yet lol
quick atlas
if bosco mines minerals on the mission, does it still count towards the "minerals mined" at the end of the mission?
odd rover
There's a Bet-C in EDD?
random path
if there is one, we completely avoided her then
raven juniper
yes, on dozer
im not sure how you avoided her
the dozer runs straight into her
unless it wasn't elite
she killed a bulk next to the dozer twice lol
sinful rover
yeah the position is not random
sinful rover
we had 4 bulk detonators in that stage alone
vital grotto
and the wind tunnels knocking me across the map
glad my team was on point but good grief lol
sinful rover
and the trawlers, snatched me as scout out of the air at least 2 times
vital grotto
i would have been more tolerable of the enemies if the map wasn't a roller coaster
we had so many oppressor spawns and they would get into these really dumb spots where they couldn't really be shot during the repair phase
i did enjoy the challenge overall though
just probably won't be playing that one again lmao
sinful rover
I think the challenge is a bit disproportionate to the minimum requirement. You have to have pretty damn good knowledge of all of the games mechanics to really get through those last two missions, I don't see how someone with 1 promotion could do it
vital grotto
agreed, escort was kind of a hellride but that refinery placement made the last mission probably one of the toughest i've ever had in drg
i could see it being easier with super good communication or something but you still make a good point
clever crest
just failed EDD five times in our usual 3-dorf premade.
that's the most failed attemts we've ever had.
and all of them only on stage 2.
sinful rover
you're in for a treat when you reach stage 3
it's most difficult edd I can remember in recent history
the only that comes close was one in magma core where the last mission was shield disrupt+mactera spawn
that was also pretty insane
vital grotto
wait how is that possible
clever crest
that's arguably better than breezing through the levels. but god damn.
sinful rover
ah no, I mixed it up. stage 2 was shield disrupt I think
is there a list of all the edd's?
vital grotto
i think there's a reddit thread every week
last week on hollow bough was a rough out too
alpine marten
I just finished the dive too
For me stage 2 felt like the worst solo
stage 3 wasn't so bad that time
that's a detonator aura I'm in
sinful rover
respect for managing it solo
alpine marten
I had to axe the god damn floating rocks
I should've brought ice storm
ice storm is solo driller escort meta
sinful rover
epc mining also works if you dare let them bunch up
graceful inlet
Can someone please give me any tips for the DD-2? I’ve been stuck on it all day
The EDD was easier ffs
sinful rover
wut
graceful inlet
I can’t pass the second stage of the normal deep dive
sinful rover
the egg collection?
graceful inlet
Yep
That’s the fucker
I either can’t navigate the cave well enough and fall to my death or get electrocuted+exploded to death
sinful rover
do you have dash as a perk?
sinful rover
what class are you playing
graceful inlet
do you have dash as a perk?
Dash, thorns, iron will, ressuplier and I don’t remember the other one
sinful rover
driller is my go to solo class
sinful rover
but gunner should make it pretty easy, carpet bomb the exploder spawns and last chance shields
graceful inlet
I don’t have carpet bomber yet : (
cobalt fiber
Just did EDD as a Scout with 3 other randos. Too many times too close. Drop POD spawned near the ceiling and they all died trying to get in stage 2. On Stage 3 there were a couple of moments when I was the only one standing with a bunch of oppressors at each lying dwarf. Brutal.
Got really lucky we made it.
sinful rover
then I suggest you try driller with cryo, makes short work of any exploders with no danger to you
sinful rover
also makes it easier to get to eggs/into caves
alpine marten
If there's one thing this EDD made me wish I had
it would be my 20m range flamer
those acid spitters were such a pain
indigo oracle
1:25:31 solo EDD. Sticky Flame + Explosive Reload
Ow my aching everything.
I did not think that shield disruption refinery would be worse than that leech escort, but oh boy was it.
alpine marten
Explosive reload cementing itself as one of the best subata OCs with this dive
up there with larger mag and full auto
congrats Noah
distant ore
Explosive reload cementing itself as one of the best subata OCs with this dive
Is this overclock good I didn’t like it much?
alpine marten
It's useful for events like these when you have to take down a high health enemy fast
that can't be lit on fire to make use of volatile bullets
indigo oracle
Explosive Reload is especially nice on solo escort because 6 shots kills a Rock.
indigo oracle
EPC could probably manage it, but eh
alpine marten
I tried epc
but I couldn't get the TCF explosion off in time
it's easier to just take explosive reload
prisma junco
heavy hitter deals w/ rocks quite nicely
prisma junco
heat pipe is great but without heavy hitter my damage just feels so lacking
alpine marten
i underestimated those rocks man
prisma junco
tbh heavy hitter is just explosive reload but better in a lot of ways
indigo oracle
Heavy hitter you can hit 40 damage on normal shots which is pretty meaty
prisma junco
the only reason you'd take the latter is proj. speed
prisma junco
Heavy hitter you can hit 40 damage on normal shots which is pretty meaty
320 sustained dps!
indigo oracle
I just like the accuracy of the subata much more then the EPC TBH. Scout main problems
prisma junco
yeah the proj speed makes it quite hard to use
slate mulch
You can still use Volatile Bullets with Explosive Reload
prisma junco
it only affects the kinetic damage tho
slate mulch
Yes, but, it still might be sorta worth it
Helps that it's only competing against Mactera Toxin lol
indigo oracle
Volatile is only worth anything to me if I'm shooting things within flamer range, which with a sticky build is probably not likely/worth
alpine marten
I mention volatile not working here specifically cause rocks
since you can't burn rocks
slate mulch
Nope
If it doesn't have the word "mactera" in its name it doesn't take more damage from that mod
raven juniper
they are good at explodin tho
boreal bronze
Ha... EDD second mission is terrible XD
alpine marten
bosco is sorta like a competent scout
prisma junco
forgot to screenshot but my EDD streak continues
beat this week's first time on BoM scout, only 2 deaths
ping for tips
vast peak
I'm getting destroyed at stage 2 each time
Jesus christ
Escort missions are the worst
alpine marten
yeah it certainly was a dive and a half
prisma junco
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1750181687707103850/59768E1D6D102049B...
0 deaths, noice
I actually really enjoyed this one, the escort was thrilling
prisma junco
yeah Dotty flying felt like a roller coaster
radiant granite
and multiple bulks usually
prisma junco
we got 2 bulks
radiant granite
got 1 bulk once, 3 bulks another time
alpine marten
oh yeah 0 deaths is crazy
I would've gotten 0 too but I got grabbed by leeches twice and bosco didn't save me
timid elm
i just unlocked deep dives. what should i expect?
lunar wolf
fun
stage 3 wtf...
the room is huge, the refinery platform spawns way up top and all the jacks are below and far, and it's shield disrupt
somber jacinth
my very first EDD completed was Total Fissure in Glacial Strata. while I have completed more in the time since then, that will be the most memorable one.
rugged basin
elfin pond
Second stage of EDD scares me
tawdry birch
i just unlocked deep dives. what should i expect?
They are a lot of fun and can be quite challenging.
Haven't done the elite yet, but the regular this week was a good time. 5 bulks across the first two missions was exciting.
elfin pond
i just unlocked deep dives. what should i expect?
Your health and minerals stay the same when you finish the first or second mission and proceed to next mission.
proven bluff
Getting all the nitra you can early pays off later
elfin pond
Ye
echo edge
Gunners should be using at least 6 shields on Doretta during the omoran fight, assuming you start the fight with max ammo and use only one ressup during the whole thing that s how many you get, I pulled through yesterday but with a leg3 rank 600 gunner who shielded Dotty only once you don't think you d have to ask for shields
vocal maple
gunners dont use shields enough anyways
half of them camp on ziplines and forget about all the others
burnt sandal
sadly a lot of people forget that the gunner is more than just his guns
hence why a lot of people don't see how useful it is to have a gunner in their team
tawdry birch
Shielding a resupply midway through a big swarm when your team are running dry is such a satisfying feeling
echo edge
People tend to keep them for emergencies but by the time they drop it it s too late already. It s fine as an emergency revive but you're better off clearing the bugs around your teammates than waste one for revive. The best usage of shield is when your team starts getting overwhelmed, to counterattack and keep the bugs at a manageable sized swarm. If you re whole team is down no one is taking advantage of it and when it wears off the swarm is the same
pastel wasp
sometimes its hard for me to tell exactly when that moment is. like, i cant see my allies hp, i dont actually know if theyve taken damage, or are just kiting a little
pastel wasp
where did you defend from waves? i found the bottom was a nice spot after that pipe was figured out
mellow girder
Honestly we were kind of all over the map.
MOST of the fight was held out at the refinery itself, but a lot of it ended up scattering to that mid-level platform just in front-below of the refinery
Endless praets and Oppressors tho, damn
Bad day to bring the Autocannon 😛
wraith shard
First time I've really explored this Deep Dive forum, and I'm glad I did. I haven't gotten past level 2 of the EDD this week, party because of my "teams", and certainly because my tactics were not correct, but after reading through this, I'm going back in. Clearly need to explore the joys of going solo in a deep dive! Thanks all.
vital grotto
yeah the sheer amount of oppressor and bulk spawns on stage 3 was nuts
don't remember anything like it
elder epoch
We have faced with a random dreadnought on EDD stage 3. Is this scripted or just random for deep dives as well?
burnt sandal
We have faced with a random dreadnought on EDD stage 3. Is this scripted or just...
What's the last stage ?
elder epoch
refinery and egg
burnt sandal
refinery and egg
I guess you just got unlucky with one of the swarm ^^
wicked robin
Failed the edd 5 times in a row just on the second stage
raw lichen
shield disruption on stage 3 always makes me weep
prisma junco
Bruh
hushed flicker
pod 6
prisma junco
4 gunners is pretty broken yeah
pale sigil
stage 3's terrain is so horrid
shrewd bane
Made it to Lv.3, we took too long and wiped to 2 bulks. Didn't help that our engineer bailed.
Silver lining, I found out Cryo is pretty great. Used it with melee perks + carpet bomber gunner really helped out. Single target damage wasn't the greatest though.
I would hazard a guess and say the Lead Storm would be better for this EDD, be sure to pick up C on T3 to maintain some level of crowd control.
alpine marten
The shield disruption isn't the worst part of stage 3
it's the terrain
and constant enemies
and the three leeches that sneak up on you
Although after playing through the dive a couple times I think stage 2 is a bit harder
viral tulip
got it first try with 4 gunners
👋 we dunked those idiot bugs
quiet wyvern
Escort on the EDD again, lovely
boreal canopy
Do you guys ever try and shoot the tips of the beamer crystals with the minigun to save time?
raw lichen
yes
mint crystal
sure
raw lichen
it's a great way to do it
mint crystal
I loosed current edd about 5 times
I spent more then hour last time
yep...
Better luck(team) tomorrow
raven juniper
only the first map was dreadful
pale sigil
Nah map 3 sucks
boreal bronze
I loosed current edd about 5 times
I just cleared EDD been at it since yesterday, the second mission is just stupidly hard
boreal bronze
Nah map 3 sucks
Still easier than escort mission XD
warped rune
silk steppe
what are the edd stages again? I don't see it in pinned
unkempt breach
rich o2+4egg+dread; leech+escort+2mule; shield+pump+2egg
wraith shard
Failed the edd 5 times in a row just on the second stage
Ditto, although predrilling into the next cave and killing everything was a good idea, mentioned on this forum. It worked, almost completed level 2 then we choked at the last minute.
astral gyro
I gave up predrilling cave on EDD stage 2. Everytime my teammates did that Doretta would fly into the air, and everyone would fall to death then doretta get wiped.
Cleared the stage with did it normal way.
On stage 3 your real enemy was Vent Wind. We did the tunnel near Refinery station, and could fight the swarm with breeze. (You need to prepare route incase Bulk spawn though)
white ridge
just pubbed it and we had on average 11 revives each
the second mission was very doable with sticky flames and carpet bomber + fear
managed to keep a plate alive lol
wicked robin
My friend and I did it. I went lead storm minigun with an explosive neurotoxin bulldog build.
@nova quarry
This is the lad that helped me.
nova quarry
That Deep Dive is Fucked.
wicked robin
That is severely fucked.
We had a random spawn twin dreadnaught on the last fight and a bet-c on the second.
nova quarry
Not only was the second Stage god awful, but I got a rude introduction to the Twins
wicked robin
Luckily, doretta ran over bet-c and we got some free help.
nova quarry
MY FIRST FUCKING TIME FIGHTING WAS HAZ5.5 ON A SHIELD DISRUPTION!
wicked robin
it's fucked
lament pawn
How would I go about soloing a lethal 5 escort mission? Class, load-out and or strategy?
white ridge
I think thunderhead gunner
23222 w/ carpet
burst gun w/ lead spray and lots of damage for spongey bois
lament pawn
Flying rock count in the second phase, is it affected by player-count? Can I expect less compared to a mission with 2+ players while alone?
unkempt breach
yes
boreal bronze
Flying rock count in the second phase, is it affected by player-count? Can I ex...
Just get an engi that makes a good shield on rock phase, i did it in my run and it worked
lament pawn
You can use the platform gun in that fashion?
unkempt breach
platform cheese?
shrewd bane
Finished the EDD 
boreal bronze
BTWS it's so nice to have completed the EDD and take it easy with the assigments XD
unkempt breach
I didn't need that trick in my last solo run
boreal bronze
Finished the EDD <:prok2:646330149985320981>
👏
unkempt breach
Been helping pubs
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2393182182
boreal bronze
I didn't need that trick in my last solo run
Well it's a good way to prevent dmg if you didn't make it with the drill at full health
unkempt breach
my dozer lost one tread, and the pubs abandoned me
but that wasn't due to the rocks
boreal bronze
Now that's sad
white ridge
also yeah when I completed the EDD
we had an engie pancake shielding us the rock phase
it really helps cause we sure as hell didn't kill the rocks
unkempt breach
jeez...you know doing that is equivalent to asking them to "fix" it right?
ppl pancaked the omen and looked what got them?
white ridge
they knew well enough to make every pulse wipe the platforms
raven juniper
I don't even think its good
tight spindle
What happens if only one member survives to the end of a mission in a deep dive?
white ridge
you win
you miss out on the innocuous amount of credits a full team escape provides
the whole team will progress just maybe at low hp when they get back?
unkempt breach
they have ablout a quarter hp the next round
if they are down, better to just leave them down so they revive with more hp the next round
frail field
Stage two of the elite deep dive makes me want to practice my rope tying skills
frail field
idk im trying stage 2 for the second time
buoyant forge
it's hell
I'm not even sure what guns to use
M1 feels needed for the leeches
and fliers
but it doesn't have the horde control of the AR
frail field
I forget are the modifiers random?
frail field
thought so
shrewd bane
Pre-drilled through stage 2 and hid in a bunker for stage 3, but I think stage 2 is harder
wraith shard
well 6 tours in edd and cant get past level 2. even tried it solo, but got as far as i did with a full team, so that's something. one day i will join the ranks of the Holy Solo Speedrun Dwarves. But not today.
frail field
my friend told me I couldn't do it solo so now I am doing it solo
unkempt belfry
what does predrilling do
shrewd bane
Clearing the rooms ahead of time, before starting Doretta. Just dig/drill.
unkempt belfry
ah so then you dont have to worry about losing doretta
but yeah fuuuuuu that stage
at least first stage was ez for the blank core
urban sail
moreso i think its for clearing out ninja leeches/spitballers
grim fjord
stage 2 of edd for me was extra hard because first, our scout had to leave like 5 mins in
then gunners game crashed
and then the driller left while we were waiting for the gunner to come back
made it back due to bosco and gunner rejoined me for the last round but that was super stressful
sacred knoll
EDD Escorts are getting tougher and tougher man
sullen delta
Can Betsy appear in the EDD even though she wasn't there before?
buoyant wing
fairly certain she's static in deep dives
sullen delta
she just appeared in stage 2 of the EDD in that first room doretta goes in
I did it twice before and she was never there
like what?!!?
odd comet
Static spawns are based off player count. Things like leeches, spitballers, BET-C, etc. will change depending on how many players you go in with
civic orbit
sleek verge
Yeah it's pretty chill
radiant granite
EDD Escorts are getting tougher and tougher man
presumably they will get easier again when extra doretta melee damage taken bug finally gets patched lol
pastel wasp
according to later dev streams its not bugged, they fixed pathfinding bugs that make enemies more able to reach Dorry
pastel wasp
they said something about potential rebalancing, should be theres an excel file somewhere with a list of what they talk about
untold creek
m
prisma junco
Btw tip for everyone attempting EDD: you can clear out the first cave early
It's visible on the terrain scanner
Just drill to it and clear it out
pastel wasp
clearing the whole map early is the go-to strat, theres a tonne of leeches and a handful of spitters
prisma junco
We didn't clear out the whole map, just the first cave
Second cave was ez, third cave was crazy, we lost two parts there
But lucky omarran was pretty easy
tired carbon
this week's EDD escort is fucked up lol
drilldozer flying and doing nosedives... coupled with massive swarms
proven bluff
All of my EDD's have been 2 man affairs
little cove
What is this "doretta taking increased damage" I keep seeing being thrown around? Does any one have documentation or a source, or is this just a rumor? Because it looks like the damage hasn't changed but the amount of bugs attacking the drill has.
magic spear
olive tulip
You dig ahead and clear rooms (and hopefully trigger bulk)
Mind the spitballers + leeches
I havent cleared eed either, failed twice on stage 2, once on 3
modest field
this week EDD map 2 is hard af
fringe kettle
known issue for clients
pine plaza
is there any websites that show all the titles for every level? ex. im level 34 my title is Legendary Miner
burnt sandal
is there any websites that show all the titles for every level? ex. im level 34 ...
the wiki
pine plaza
Host just quit the session when 3/4 people died on the dozer lol
goddamn, wata savage
pine plaza
the wiki
ty
NGL they should add waaay more titles soon
and funny ones too
hell, add purchasable ones (not real money obv)
pine plaza
i thought of a good custom title... Steve's Best Friend
warped ruin
I was wondering if the problem with a person not receiving as much as a host in terms of money and experience? For intense, me and my friend would play and he wouldnt get as much as I would if I was host.
pine plaza
sounds ironic
little cove
I was wondering if the problem with a person not receiving as much as a host in ...
Everyone receives the same amount of experience, minerals, and gold. If someone gets more, they are using modified files.
pine plaza
oooh, what a reveal
we're on official drg chats too so mods may c this lol
but hey who knows
warped ruin
Everyone receives the same amount of experience, minerals, and gold. If someone ...
I havent modified the files, just Ill say what I got and he say he didnt get close to that.
I meant havent
pine plaza
well becareful of typos lol
shrewd bane
For normal missions at least, you can walk into the medbay and screens on the ceiling will show you stats about your last mission.
little cove
Or have both players take screnshots and compare.
minor saffron
this weeks EDD is tough i heard ? is that true ?
paper sand
it's brutal
prisma junco
it's fine tbh
radiant granite
second stage not as hard as last week, but third stage is a little tougher than last week
in both cases the second is the hardest bit
ancient beacon
this week's EDD stage 2 is ultra spicy
i have never taken more than 2 attempts to clear an EDD with randoms
right now I've just failed my fifth
silent wave after announced wave after silent wave
bulks and praets and oppressors spread liberally
doretta going into the ceiling and then taking a nosedive mid-wave did not help
on the other hand, this is what haz5 spawns should be like
stage 2 did not feel fair
it did not give generous breaks, let you mine oil shale in peace, wait for doretta to find a defensible spot before spawning bugs
fuck no, it it shoved a 20-stack of slashers right next to doretta in the ceiling
go hard or go home
haz5 should not feel "fair"
it should be brutal and oppressive like this, all the time
full arrow
how's the layout of the 3rd EDD cave?
gaunt wharf
whats the cosmetic for the elite dive this week?
fringe kettle
it's RNG
gaunt wharf
fa real
this weeks is nuts
took me 6 tries to beat the second mission
we had to pre drill everywhere too
modest field
@ancient beacon have u completed the EDD yet?
steep cloud
Pre-drilling is strongly recommended stage 2
I got it in two tries
But the second was incredibly close
viral tulip
3rd EDD is super vertical with an offshoot to one side
We had 2-3 dets on ours as well
Didn't have too bad of a time with stage 2 but 3 was wild
modest field
we got phase 2
but phase 3 was hard too
not sure why ppl are so against "pre-drilling" , this group i just played with were like "are we realyl playing the game properly?" and attempted to yolo room 3
steep cloud
Normally I don't pre drill but the leeches make it so hard if you don't
ancient beacon
<@!268426055721811969> have u completed the EDD yet?
yes and this was the hardest EDD i've ever done, hands down