#deep-dive-discussion
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and also solo is hard
deep Daves usually take an hour for me as well, specially solo, so it can be super draining
Legit I just hate being alone and it pisses me off
Solo doesn’t make me as mad as it makes me feel lonely
there’s so much more energy with even one extra player
Exactly! I'm lonely which makes me complain, the I die and get mad, then I feel lonely etc
A vicious circle. Is it really hard to find a team for EDD?
I have a hard time finding edd teams
Mostly because if I host I will literally die
Actually... I haven’t tested it, but I assumed my loading times being horrible would translate to a terrible hosting experience
Wasn't sure how the game handled that. My group all runs new-ish gaming rigs, but we get wiped on stage one of EDD most of the time. Not used to hazard 4/5 play and I'm old and slow
i've PUGed a ton of EDD's. I've had a pretty good completion rate. depends on the team. If i see some or most below 60, I bail. If I host I kick people
Okay but loekey
I had a scout who was level 45 and silver one and he was a fucking god with the m1k and sp. He slapped last weeks
oh for sure. it's not always the case, but its a rule that has served me well. If the rest of the team is pretty high, i usually ignore it
His build complimented mine so so well too
the drone doesn't keep you company?
He was running cryo white phos anf i was running cryo driller
Not well enough
Also next escort in new update i dont fucking care if it's on an EDD
Dorreta is coming home
ya thats a good combo. I'm not sure what to tell ya. Maybe I just got some decent overclocks i can be really general purpose about
pull them in rapid succession kachow
Start with the eggs in the top and back of th room and hold the center/off center of the room. Don’t hold those hallways. Have the scout pull the egg and if needed just let it lay there until the swarm is dealt with.
Don’t all run to the egg and then deal with that choice, have scout pull the eggs and the driller/gunner lay down fire in the big area. Once scout is back from the egg he needs to switch to HVT killing mode. Acid spitters, web spitters, mactera, etc he should be deleting the moment they appear.
High value target
I'd gladly help but I guess both of you are from the US
I’m waiting for the community wide distress when the new biomes aren’t in the coming DD and EDD. Xbox and Steam use the same dives so they won’t be on the roster until the 11th.
This week's edd is just
Annoying for me
None of my friends want to help run it with me because: radiation exclusion zone sucks. I dont need any other overclocks
@fresh escarp What's your region? I may help you with it.
Nevermind... I didn't notice you're on win/xbox version
I play gunner and cryo driller
Should note I play Burning Hell Driller with Elephant rounds 18 bullets but 160 damage
Driller is Perfectly Tuned Cooler with 650 ammo and a good amount of freezing along with EPC TCF
Im good yes. But I'm not too too good.
@formal thorn why?
Depending on schedules I could help you beat it, I have both versions.
Dope! Can you do tonight at 6:30pm EST?
yes I think so
true
First and second stage alone gave me like.... 530ish?
Idk because I got gang banged by 3 prets in second stage so i didnt fully clear it out but
We'll listen to Gloria Gaynor and we will survive.
EDD going too good a while ago... game spawns a random roving Dread along with a swarm as we get to the black box...
This weeks edd is rough. I can't get past stage 2 and I've made 5 or 6 attempts at this point.
i`d be alright with only step 1 and 2 this week, to be honest
Hey im a hard driller main tryin to solo a deep dive, anyone got any tips or advice?
Well I did get a blank matrix core so that's something
that is something indeed
the regular deep dive is basically jsut a hazard 4, Gonk Droid
oh ok
When I look at the lobbies for deep dives, what does distance: close mean?
can you guys do something about cosmetics DLC When going offline I had no internet and it made the dlc useless I couldn’t use them anymore this is on Xbox
it's a rough idea of distance to the host as a way to estimate your connection quality. Just host, people will join.
Ah okay
@fresh escarp some stuff came up so i can’t make it
Oh ok
well i made it past stage 2. I think that's the best I'm gonna do this week.
Good job
I made it past stage 5
Helped my greenbeard friend complete his first DD
Also, cryo driller non tcf but hot plasma is going to be my go to tomorrow for this
Rad prets be damned
the radioactive zone is far easier if you take elemental resistance
there is tons of radiation there
obiously
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Wazzup, @fresh escarp ?
Hello
Yes im panicking i havent gotten the EDD dine
Done*
Yes i need to run cryo driller. Yes im panicking
Ahhh haha, I'm so new to this I barely know what you're talkin' about. 😄 Get 'er done! 😄
Ohhh! I'll probably get there one day. 🙂 Good to know what to watch out for!
No I will be at work still I think
Hey guys, just a quick question. I'm going to attempt the EDD tonight, do I need to finish all three stages to get the rewards?
no each stage will give you a reward upon completion
Ah thank you 🙂 I failed a Haz 5 mission the other day so I've kinda been putting off the EDDs
the edds are probably easier than normal haz 5, because if you fail, you can try the exact same maps again, but with knowledge of what to expect
this week (and last weeks) are very good weeks to get into them too. Easy warnings on stage 1+2, no warning + volitile guts on stage 3
Volatile guts might as well be a warning though >.>
yeah EDD's really are easier than Haz 5 tbh
for that reason
really? I thought they escalated to Haz 5 from 4?
the edd missions are 4.5/5/5.5 in that order; the knowledge of what's coming makes successive attempts easier, even if the game itself is the same
dd/edd scale for player count; good luck!
The only EDD mission I found at all hard this week was the second
The first was a straight line with only the weird angles in the last cave being difficult, and the last mission took literally five minutes
is it just me or have the elite deep dives been easy these last two weeks?
Escorts are rather difficult solo, one of thr hardest solo mission types probably, but a lot easier with a team
I don't care for how escort scales, it's much easier when you have more players vs solo or duo
Also like what do you do if you only have a scout and engineer when you get to the laser crystals?
scout can ninja the crystals or engineer can platform from the wall toward the stone on either side, and then platform the crystals from that bridge, and jump to them to hit them
just dont make a ring, you have to have gaps to avoid weird behavio
yeah that just feels way less feasible compared to the gunner and driller's answers
just a bummer because normally haz5 is what we like to run but we can't be as flexible on escort missions
the engineer can own a whole side on his own with turrets, mines, and platforms. literally half the room with little issue
I solo EDD dozer with a controller, it is not impossible.
True, though I'm less saying it's impossible and more just not balanced in a way that we find fun
just undercuts an otherwise great final show down
Well I can't account for taste, but those are the tools the classes have. The scout is probably the best bet tho, since the grapple+pickaxe move is reliable and very fast. Are you asking about how to make the fight more "fun" or how to beat it?
I appreciated the scout and engie tips
if you have only scout and engi when you get to laser crystal you use plat to restrict enemy movement so you can funnel them into mines
if your party is scout and engi you should be loaded with nitra considering dd and edd give you an absurd amount of it
you can use pgl to shoot the tip of the crystal and you can have scout zip power attack some of them
We can beat it usually but have struggled more with that combination of classes
pgl won't have an ammo problem considering what was mentioned before
double stun range turret can help deal with enemies getting to the dozer and slowing the damage they do to it
scout can wipe out enemies and easily control aggro with either cryo or electric grenade
Our engie usually runs breach cutter so that may be part of the problem
the enemies aren't ever the issue, it's mainly the crystal waves and not being able to mitigate the crystals fast enough
yeah most engi are unfortunately hooked on BC because it was an op state
they never really bothered to learn how to use pgl because the broken strong BC was their entry card to haz 5
it's the same reason i see engi complain about air target
I wouldn't dump BC just for crystals, tbh. he can platform that whole room. The BC will give him clearing capacity near the dozer that the PGL won't allow due to friendly fire.
never even considered running proxi pgl with fire + stun twin turrets
pgl has good clear
you don't need to run BC
yes very good clear and very good friendly fire
funny enough we were pretty avid PGL users for the most part and have recently swapped to breach cutter more just because of variety and getting fun OCs
unless you are purposefully shooting your teammate
then again some people have no concept of positioning and think running into a bunch of enemies at haz 5 and trying to pickaxe them is the way to go
when you should keep your distance from bugs at haz 5
but even then it's easy to not hit them
@fair spruce it's fine to use both but when you are dealing with certain situation were you struggle. Understanding the strength and weakness of both is great
Yeah no disagreement there
Imo Breach Cutter is just better at sustainable wave control and single target deletion when the other player is really preoccupied, which is why we've been running that more since the other player (me) is often dealing with the crystals
but will try to run PGL again and see how it goes next time
rune it a few times to learn pgl range and curve
before doing edd
also will give you an idea of what's the kill range on it dmg wise
We're not that green lol
like I said we used to run PGL a lot, it's just been out of vogue, if you will
engineer has the best options all around imo, I think all of their weapons are good
yeah engi is pretty versatile but most classes are tbh
yeah, all classes are generally well done, engie just has the fewest downsides imo
but the class design and variety is a big part of why I love the game
So tell me, what's involved in a Deep Dive
Is it just a bunch of missions strung together?
Three missions strung together, 2 warnings w/ a chance of 3 on EDD, objectives are more constrained, primary and secondary objectives are both required, secondary objective is a simplified version of primary objectives (you can view all of them on wiki).
Difficulty also changes based on the stage (3 -> 3.5 -> 3.5 on DD; 4.5 -> 5 -> 5.5 on EDD).
very cool, thank y'sir
If you pass a stage of the dive you keep the matrix core reward, even if you fail the next stage. The map doesn't change all week once it's set, so no stress.
what i tried was to just platform near the tip of the crystal, that way the scout gets an easier time to break the tip saving a few swing and tim
i don't get recoil dampener upgrades
just go on a mission and practice recoil for a few mags
Damn
I just did the EDD
We made a proper dwarven bunker, but the bugs backdoored us
We totally forgot about using ziplines for the egg hordes, was a nightmare. We ran out of ammo as well on final stage
I had to go AFK for the last stage and my friends did it with me dead the whole time 😆
I hope they add these new biomes to the DD and EDD for reset. What are the chances?
I think the devs have said that they want to, and the deep dive seed code is probably changing to fit the new biomes anyway, so I don't see why they wouldn't manipulate it so that we get the new biomes
probably gonna get the azure weald for dd and hollow bough for edd
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I'm fairly curious how they choose seeds for deep dives. Is it totally automatic, we all get what we get, or do they try a couple different seeds themselves and pick a few that seem good, or what?
I believe it’s automatic but the devs try it out once it’s been created
I hope we get a difficult EDD this week last two were way too easy
But either way i’m hyped for them
Odds are good that the new dives tomorrow will be in the new biomes. They offer their own set of challenges that I won't get into until they're on the live build.
oh
if you're on xbox yeah you get to wait
should be the 11th for the microsoft version
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New
Deep Dives
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DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Gunner's Breach
Stage 1:
250 Morkite +
1 Dreadnought |
Low Oxygen
Stage 2:
3 M.U.L.E.s +
2 Eggs |
No Mutators!
Stage 3:
4 Eggs +
1 Dreadnought |
Shield Disruption
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Eternal Hulrum
Stage 1:
6 Eggs +
2 M.U.L.E.s |
No Mutators!
Stage 2:
Protect the Drilldozer +
2 Eggs |
Lethal Enemies
Stage 3:
4 Eggs +
150 Morkite |
Regenerative Bugs
Oh, lord, Xbox is going to have a totally different dive then
PC has the new maps and Xbox gets something else
i am on pc
oo boi, there's an outstanding issue right now where bugs deal too much melee damage to the dozer, and it's lethal enemies this week?
good luck with that one
why are there no female dwarves? would make the game more versatile imho
i bought game "Deep Rock Galactic: Dwarven Legacy" and i didnt recevie new DLC Dawn of the Dread Pack. Why?
Anyone having issues with DCs or crashes on the DD and EDD?
Specifically between stages?
Might have just been our host.
It’s a bundle, not a season pass. You bought what was listed, not what was listed and all future dlc.
any aus players looking to EDD?
damn this week's edd stage 2 was hard
Here's something for you to post to your friends every week. Works best in combination
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any nitra issues in EDD this week with the decrease? 👀
LOL! 🤣 the drilldozer moved 10 feet in this week second stage EDD and ran out of fuel
No nitra issue. I got 280+ from solo after first stage
Only normal Deep Dives are affected iirc. EDD is not affected by this.
You bought the bundle when the new DLC wasn't available yet. Now that it's released, anyone who buys the bundle can get them at a discounted price.
any issues on edd? we've crashed for 4 times already, 3 times on 2nd stage, once on 1st
either one of us crashes and can't reconnect (no option to) or host crashes
did devs crash on stream?
oh my, that lethal doretta on edd was 😵
yeah that was intense
Kept getting the worst bulk spawns
they didn t joke when they said ground based enemies deal huge dmg to doretta
They really maw her
worst part is the first stop
she parks in the worst place and the room is craggy and horrible to navigate
Same missions different biomes sucks tho :/
lose connection on the last DDE stage
regain connection
get kicked out by the game anyways because i was 3 seconds too late with getting internet back
any leeches on edd? just so i dont have to make my neck sore by constantly looking up
3 on the last mission
Near spawn
That EDD was a fucking mission from hell
4 bulks on Escort, lethal enemies too
Just special after special after special
Barely, and I mean BARELY pulled through
Is it true the nitra nerf is only for deep dive not elite?
That EDD was so god damn brutal.
my entire team left me at the start of stage 2
Never a moment to breathe
Stage 2 of this edd is such a bs. If you fall in the last part of travel from the drilldozer - you have failed the mission, cause it is literally travelling by air, and you can't get back to repair it. And wtf is with this nonsense - running out of fuel after 15-20 meters from the spawn point lol XD
Dreadbull gives doretta wings
I had my first flight on doretta yesterday. She does have some INTERESTING pathfinding
Also Molly got stuck running in circles near the drop pod
That was interesting to fix
EDD still crashing?
is there any way to copy cosmetic loadouts between A B and C? its annoying to have to swap 3 times whenever i wanna change something; same for the pickaxe
I really didn’t think it was that difficult
The only real curveball was the three regenerating spitballers at the start of stage 3
Did none of you get the ultra-fucked stage 2?
Nothing out of the ordinary fucked doretta pathing
Quick zipline/ drill path
Problem solved
She moved about five feet, parked in a wall, and then every exploder running twice as fast as usual came by to say hello for like five minutes.
To say nothing of the four or five bulks.
Might have been a non replicable bug? Did it happen to you multiple times?
The worst part was just the time it took
It happened on the second attempt too, but I was at least prepared to snipe like crazy for Usain Bolt boomer boys.
Each attempt i got deconnected from host
That was a fun edd this week
We barely beat stage 2 with 3% left on the dozer at the end
Is the biome a big source of difficulty?
Yeah, there are loads of random holes and stuff there you can fall into
And you also have stabber vines and the like
Do the vines fuck with doretta?
No, but they kill you while you are on doretta
I haven't had the chance to play today but those things seem hyper aggressive
The creeper vines hurt doretta a tiny bit, like the cacti in dense bio
It's more annoying than dangerous, sometimes it'll be less than a percent of damage but it'll still send dotty screaming
Escort, Lethal enemies, and 2 eggs on stage 2 EDD?! well guess i'm not doing that one then
WTF is with this EDD. We had like 5 detonators...
Bulks coming in pairs and threes 😄
it's like ghost ship games wants us to feel pain this EDD
EDD for my squad had bulks spawn 10 metres from doretta twice
had to do the whole mission with 1 hp bar. almost failed several times
big rip
Drilldozer with lethal is pretty manageable, it doesn't affect DMG dealt by bugs on Doretta and most bugs will run past you to target her instead
does anyone know if they fixed the bug where mission control would repeat his lines a bunch after you finished refueling the dozer?
Or the one where doretta would take damage over time for no reason for a whole mission?
I didn't see those in the patch notes
Oops I'm in deep dive discussion ...
Did anyone else get 4 bulks stage 2 EDD?
For everyone wondering why Xbox got different deep dives - The new biomes aren't released for them yet. Their update is in another week
How do you fight a lethal enemies BET-C
Holy shit, todays regular DD feels like an edd.
anyone get super long loads on edd2?
Todays dd is low o2 and no shields in the new zone, as well 2 of the new bosses.
Its a bit of a rough on for those expecting an easy slide through this weeks dd.
EDD this week is tough, seemed much more difficult than usual.
hmmm...
I might need an actually good team if doing it.
Trying with a rando team atm
Will let know how it goes. :3
Passed stage one of edd easier than stage one of dd this week.
edd stage 1 easy as heck
When they say deep dive they mean it
yeah i really liked it
3/4 of my team was rank 400+ and we were still dragging ourselves to the end
i think the lethal second stage greatly contributed though lol
@glossy grotto EDD Felt easier than DD imo
Just did edd with a bunch of randos
But yeah, lethal on stage 2 gave a little bit of trouble.
yeah my team had to clear out bugs before we even started doretta
then she ran out of gas a meter from the starting point pretty much
lol
Yeah, 2 round escort sucks
I think there is a certain event where game wants no dwarfs to be left behind. No idea what you get for it though as we had to fail it.
But that is just speculation and rumor
Is it just me or did anyone else's game crash on stage one of the DD?
Also on the first and only time it didn't crash, we were running to the drop pod alongside Molly, but then Molly went up a steep cliff and we couldn't climb fast enough so we all panicked and died from lack of oxygen 
wiped on stage 2 EDD with my 3 pals after refuel 1
we were having frame drops through the missions too
should i bring fat boy to edd
Did they make detonators stomp explosion instant now?
We wiped on EDD stage 2. Doretta lost a part early on due to us not paying attention, then our Driller decided that blowing up the Bulk RIGHT NEXT TO Doretta would be a great idea. Lost another part. Last part was taken when a few rocks managed to slip through (our engi was not trained in the ways of the cheese bridge). Everyone left, one left a "******* waste of time" before leaving. I'm like... Meh? Can't win every time.
Loving the new biomes though! They feel way WAY more fleshed out than the other biomes. So much stuff going on all around you.
They didn't change anything
Detonators always had the sneaky instant stomp sometimes
EDD stands for elite deep dive right?
y
Nice.
this weeks edd stage 2 is so hard
Yep, we got pasted three times on stage two and ultimately threw in the towel. It's extremely unforgiving, and we didn't even have misfortune that some folks have of meeting lots and lots of bulks.
For anyone having problems on EDD 2nd Stage: Driller (Cyro) and Gunner (Carpet Bomber - Autocannon) Combo with 2ppl works when both ppl know their roles. 4 ppl gets messy quick
died on EDD 2nd stage - was fairly easy until the bulk drove us away from protecting Doretta
breach cutter is fastest way to kill a bulk and we had no engineer, rip
This Weeks EDD is delicious , i wish every Elite Dive would be like that
I was going to do the EDD yesterday but I slept for 14 hours straight after getting home
So looking at the newest hotfix. Do the Devs know about the Doretta Damage multiplier bug?
Not talking about lethal enemies in EDD
Not aware of this , whats the matter ?
Doretta dies in 5-7 hits from a regular grunt in Haz 5. Used to be 10-15
Makes me wonder if it correlates with Lethal enemies. Didnt feel like something was super weird in this weeks EDD even with Mission 2 being really tough
In EDD each side dies in 3 hits to SINGLE slasher
What am I suppose to do in Haz 5 with 1500 hours played? Be Karl himself.....
thats always the goal 
well i guess better report that to the Bug section then
honestly i had more trouble with mactera , menace , bulks and opressors on this one , didnt even notice normal glyphids being on steroids
It has been reported... idk what else to do. I refuse to do EDD with that issue
in terms of doretta damage that is
well just skip this week then. I have to say i really enjoy this week how it is
Bad enough we had all but 2 Edd or dd with Drill missions buring people out. Now it's back with a buggy vengeance-_-
always looking for a real challenge that takes multiple attempts and some strategy
thats what i want from EDD's
tried 2 times yet , first time didnt count with scout from hell dropping a whopping 22 times
2nd time was super close in mission 2 finale but we already have a plan for tonight
cant wait to tackle it again
yeah Drill missions in general suffer from some wonky stuff i agree
but nothing to bad for me personally but i can see that people get frustrated over these issues
1500 hours and a Gunner main. I loaded up a regular Drill mission. Doretta side was 1 shotted by a single Trijaw shot
Single volley shot*
From 100%
Grunts 6 - 8 shot it
Yeah but if you look at DRG and its developement in general you can clearly point out that this team reacts pretty good to all kinds of issues. I mean sure , new update can bring some bugs but you know we will get fixes like always. dont be frustrated , give it some time. Maybe skip Escort missions for a while and explore the other new stuff
True. But it for me was like salt to a healing wound
That wound being "drill Dd and EDD Every week until you die" I actually loved drill missions. But they showed up waaaaaaaaay to much
Now I dispise them
This bug makes the pain worse
If that makes sense
Still LOVE morkite Refinery tho
i get where you are coming from. best advice i can give is to skip drill missions or to give the game a break in general. i mean 1500 hours shows some kind of really deep connection to the game and with that type of connection there usually comes some frustrtation if something doesnt work. You probably played the game because you have fun and love it , but if you see yourself moving away from having fun and/or loving it consider a break. And thats not just an advice for games in general
Love the Game? Honey that's an understatement if I have heard one
hey guys, quick question, my buddy and i just did our second deep dive yesterday, and we were wondering if the deep dive seed is the same for everyone or not?
@eternal apex Deep dives rotate weekly and Deep Dive and Elite Deep dive are the same for everyone and then it rotates
awesome, also, do you guys know if the amount of rescources on the map changes at all? like when there are more people in the session or whatever? because yesterday we couldnt find any resources in our first run and in our second try it was full of nitra, i think we might have just not been paying attention but my buddy swears there really was nothing there
this makes deep dive speedrunning possible in the first place so people can compare to a set of missions
deep dive speedrunning sounds really cool tbh
If you cant find rescources consider it a bug (one i never heard of before tho)
the res locations will stay the same
there were some rescources, but it felt like a big increase after the first try, all our tries after it had all rescources in the same locations
im just gonna assume we were too busy looking at all the new plants to notice lmao
xD
i absolutely love the regular deep dive this week, it was one of our most intense sessions of drg yet
Btw Cotton. Play morkite Hollow Bough. It looks and feel s amazing. Like a completely different game
Asure weald feels like what Densie Biozone should have been
So pretty
Err. Wait. Hollow bough feels like what Dense should have been
we really wanted to play the new biomes on this weeks deep dives first because we assumed the devs probably designed this weeks deep dives around showing off new features, but the Elite deep dive is way too hard for us greenbeards lmao
Confusing myself >.>
i dont think i've checked out hollow bough properly yet, we tried it in the EDD but failed within 10 minutes, we will probably try again today or tomorrow tho
Play regular games of Hollow Bough . As I said, morkite suggested. It's amazing. Like a completely different game
morkite mining or refining?
Mining
Will definitely check it out
Overall the Biomes feel a level up.
Azure = better fungus bogs
Hollow = better biozone
i absolutely love that the devs are putting this much efforts in the updates
drg might also be the least toxic online gaming community i have ever witnessed, never before have i accidentally left a game public, afk'ed for 10 minutes and said "oh shit sorry this was ment to be a private game" without being told to kms
Welcome to the fold young Greenie
Rig 17 is a pretty cool place
the elive dive this week is just pure pain
Coming up on my first promotion, so was wondering; can I bring friends who havent promoted yet along on deep dives?
i don't believe so
I think they need to have a promoted dwarf
to go on any deep dives
yeah you can only play a deep dive with a dwarf who was promoted at least once
meaning if you've only promoted your gunner, you can only play as him
there's a big red text saying that if you try otherwise
out of a scale of 0-11 how bad is this weeks EDD? xD
oh nu 
At least stage 2
You can get two bulks spawning next to Doretta.
At one point we had a bunch of macteras, 2 bulks and a menace to spice things up.
Brutal.
Last EDD with Doretta, which I did twice, had zero bulks the first time and one the second. I played with rookies the second time and it wasn't that hard. This time though it feels haz 6.
Not sure if this is the biome or did devs bumped up the difficulty. But it does feel tough compared to previous EDDs. I would even say the hardest so far.
Like a 6 or a 7. Honestly it was kinda boring outside of stage 2. Escort was actually fun and some sections provided a challenge for once.
My only complaint is I want more stabber vines to spawn and in places where they'll be a big problem cuz sometimes they spawn 50m in the sky and never do anything
To each their own :P. Still love the Hollow Bough. Been playing the crap outta it and it's beautiful.
can you destroy stabber vines?
Yes
has anyone who was crashing on particularly stage 2 EDD tried it again after this recent hotfix?
is it still happening?
I'm in it right now. It's definitely hitching, but it hasn't crashed yet/
Ye its my favorite out of the new pair, glad you like it too
The bough feels like a better Fungus map. And the Azure feels like a better biozone
Hmmm
Kinda
I felt that the Weald is like a peaceful version of bogs and Bough is so unique I cant really compare it to anything else
Hopefully they'll revisit past biomes and bring them up to the quality of the new ones.
Giving them a makeover would be awesome
I think the Bough compares closely to the biozone
I say bough is a better Biozone mainly because Biozone is the only, ONLY region that has it's own custom shape to its cave rooms. Making them oval and spherical shapes both pretty and crippling. You almost need a scout to clean out the tight high corners. And the urchins dont glow or have any give away aside from the question you ask yourself "what just dropped me on a sliver of HP?" Boughs vines have a glow and can be destroyed at the root. The stabbing vines are LOUD when they are walked near giving you warning.
Boughs theme is a dead tree with red killer weeds growing all through out it. That makes sense to me.
Dense Biozone is an old ocean that has been drained out and has..... Cactus?
Tho the urchins make sense
Imo
(Not nerf a scout btw. Phones autocorrect is dumb)
Phew ... managed to pass EDD
Seriously, what made it hard is not because we have to fight against Hz 5 enemies, but had to protect the Dozer from them... 😰
yup, thats what you do on a haz 5 escort duty >.>
i don't think the bough tree is dead, but it is being invaded
Yeah the second stage was cursed. Blew a part on the first stop when the others went down and I had to fend off way too much alone, not much I could've done there. Second part was lost shortly thereafter. The second refueling had us go 3 rooms back because for whatever reason, there wasnt enough to top up the containers. Molly also got stuch on something, giving another two passive waves enough time to waste our ammo. Finally did it though. Rather pleased with the end results.
did anyone else get 4 bulks on stage 2 EDD?
shit felt like Vietnam 3: Boogie All Night
We got 2. This don't happen often, but when it does... https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1747929248775469320/AC8C8BE3687C894C0F7BB2D3765DFFD6568CC21F/
no idea how we made it
Bulks don't target doretta, so it's fairly easy to draw them away from her. But in the chaos, it's easy to lose track of everything around you.
For whatever reason, the passive waves in this EDD were all HUGE.
yea we barely made it with like 50% HP of the 3rd hp bar
how many macteras are there? I wanna know if I could bring sticky flames
Not many. Largest I group I saw was 4. There is a TON of small stuff, so bring that anyways. Lots and lots of swarmers.
But also a good amount of grunts, slashers and guards.
Lots of little guys, got it, I'll convince my gunner to bring his autocannon
anyone doing deepdive atm?
Also, this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvk5ugAR9ww
holy crap this weeks deep dive was a nightmare.
I don't even wanna attempt the edd for this week. I'm just glad we finished the dd and I don't need to re attempt it.
You on steam?
The EDD is insane. I've run it 5 times, all failed on the 2nd mission
I was about to ask what/when should I start deep dives
But I get the feeling today isn't a good one to
There's no good or bad way to approach it.
Just don't expect to do wonders in Elite Deep Dives if you're barely holding your own in hazard 4 obviously. ^^
deep dive pod 5
is the EDD crashing for anyone at the rock phase of the drilldozer part
I'm on steam if that was directed at me
Ah okay then
Huh. A lot of people are saying that with weeks edd s2 is very ddifficult. I didn't run into too many problems other than my gunner burning the bulk so I couldn't freeze time it with the bulk being killed right next to the drill.
Otherwise, 3 other bulks I was able to freeze time making it probably a lot easier
Yesterday the EDD was way harder ! also the route on the first stop mission 2 changed
did it today , easy :/
wantthe hard version of yesterday back
a little disappointing
RNG ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Doretta route changing by rng ? is that possible ?
what ?
the route changed
I was talking about the harder EDD
^^
Also I don't know about the different route
I haven't looked into how escort path work atm
yesterday doretta stoped on the upper end of a room on the first stop in a very tricky spot
today she drove down to the center on a open area
molly teleported back to spawn in from the second chamber when I ran the dive
we had to do the hearstone phase with only the hull remaining
entered stage 3 with only 1 resup left
maybe one and a half
also the room at the 2nd stop has everything if you take all the oil shale there
usually people miss the oil shale at the top
Wait, so regular Deep Dives aren't that much of a concern?
They're basically a bridge between haz 3 and 4
Oh. That should be totally doable
first stage with low O2 can be a bit of a trouble if you dont set a way back up the funky terrain beforehand though
Are the Dreadnaught swarms only on deep dives or can happen when ever?
Doing the DD solo. Heard it was hell so wish me luck
dread waves can spawn anywhere
Bruh, whats up with this escort on the stage 2 of the elite deep dive
This is awful, the first refuel isnt even in a flat open area
Why the fuck did Stage 2 require THREE goddamn Bulk Detonators? Or am I the only one who got that pile of shit?
EDD stage 2 is here to kick everyone's teeth in
I'm a Driller, I have neither the range nor DPS to deal with a Bulk
I'd take a Dreadnought any day of the week over a Bulk
then bring someone with sustained damage capability
at least a Dreadnought can't one-shot me with melee
I solo Deep Dives because 1) no friends currently playing DRG and 2) I don't trust randos
normally Bosco is all I need, but even then just one Bulk Detonator can fuck up my day, and the game decided to throw three at me through the whole mission and thus ended my dive
I failed the EDD on the last stage with 2 teamates over rank 150 (im over 190) and a rank 50. This one might be the hardest EDD ive ever done
Heres my tip for that room in stage 3: hold the cliff, dont stand in the middle of the room and get surrounded like we did (I asked if we could hold there but nobldy responded...)
i got five.
two at start iirc, one at first refill, one (or two maybe? i dont remembeR) at second and one at heartstone
maybe even more because i didnt finish
what even is stage 3?
@sweet lava @white flume @hybrid cedar https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/790836845969408050/807444374156738591/unknown.png
finally did stage 2!
used temp shock team, one cryo and one sticky flame drillers with a gunner + scout
gunner hard focused rocks and the cryo driller and scout hard focused beamers
...and regen breeder straight off stage 3 ruined us
gg though
I beat it with friends and I can confirm stage 2 of EDD was hell
We ended with 2019 combined kills
God DAMN that stage 2 fucked us hard no lube
I don't even remember last time I failed a deep dive
Detonator as soon as the dozer started moving, then dozer stopped about 5 seconds later to our dismay
Many downs later due to lethal enemies, when we finally started getting it together another one spawned and promptly blew up what was left of the dozer
Just did DD, pushover as expected
doin' EDD tomorrow
people said it'd be a challenge so I'm excited
Guess we got some easy EDD's recently, because we've failed 3 times now. The first refuel is a pain with swarms and the menaces are a real bugger.
what are deep dives?
End game content where you do three missions in a row to get matrix cores
Just promote one dwarf and you have access I think
EDDs are unlocked after completing a DD
made it to stage 3 on first attempt but died to a bad wave. I can see how people would wipe on stage 2 though. Doretta lost both sides really quickly before we saved her. At least there wasn't any low O2 this time.
i despise low 02 lmao, for the next like 5 missions im constantly watching molly and get scared everytime molly lags behind
also is it me, or does molly stay behind more than last update?
lethal enemies escort on EDD 😦 😦
well, guess i'll give it a shot but bah
i wish i could enjoy escort missions but it's just not doing anything for me
Final stage of EDD is the shortest stage I remember, four, five minutes. Tops.
@weak dune scroll up a little. They're posted in here every reset
oh, fair
thanks!
Yw
just about ready to strangle mission control for giving this absolute bs second stage of EDD
I just want my dang overclocks
22 runs of EDD, and it only took a level 220 gunner and a triple platinum scout to just randomly join for me to finally finish it, i'm just going to assume this was divine Karl intervention that made this happen https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/640366454432202772/807630803755466762/unknown.png
Finally finished that EDD after 3x tries. That second stage was brutal. Great challenge though!
Plat 3 at 44 is weird someone who promoted each dwarf once would be around 30 I think
That would be like silver 2-3 if he only ever played scout
Probably meant silver
33 1/3 levels = 4 promotions
okay, more coffee this morning and I'm gonna retry this EDD.
pod 1 need a gunner, please
I don't know if there is a better channel for this question so if there is I will move it there but I wanted to know what the best loadout for a gunner would be for EDD?
so this week's deep dives prove that they're not always random
and devs sometimes choose the biomes/objectives
Devs have always had the ability to change things about Deep Dives. The missions themselves are RNG, but devs can pick and choose if they feel like it.
The whole "RNG" argument is asinine because of it (due to dev intervention always being a possibility). But it doesn't really matter in the long run.
Pretty sure they handpicked these to show off the new biomes.
Attempting the EDD today, should I bring nukes?
Probably, hordes are pretty big on escort.
This deep dive was rough. Did it on my first try with randoms, but only because gunner who carried us. I died 14 times, but did get the most kills at around 600 as engi
the DD or EDD?
EDD
Yep this week elite dive is terrible on the second mission, since you have to charge the drill batteries twice plus lethal enemies X_X, i'm still happy i managed to clear it on my second try XD
anybody know how to change the first stop location on stage 2 EDD?
You can’t
I join random group and it apear that they did something and the stop location is changed
Hmm. Maybe I’m wrong
if I start drozer right away it will ||stop at the very beginning of next room || which is a strange location but from the group it stop || at the very bottom of the room || which seem more like a proper location
weird
my guess is that something block it from going correctly
Yeah, it stopped at the very beginning of the next room for me which was weird
whoever did it on Engineer, any tips to watch out for?
The Elite Dive is tough this week
The first refuel spot for the Drilldozer is complete arse
Did the EDD in 3 attempts, the first 2 I had the same issues. Third try it didn't park there for some reason...
been having issues all day with edd either through bad teamwork or jut plain getting beaten with huge hordes
Nukes are nice to have but I did pretty well with extra ammo overclock. Helps you clear pillars on escort and is just generally nice to have for crowd control without accidentally nuking a teammate. There is indeed a massive amount of enemies this EDD though, did about 700+ kills by the end of it. There's also a lot of nitra too so you can drop constant aoe without trouble. Also always make sure to not let melee enemies reach Doretta, they will murder the dozzer because of a bug that makes them do increased damage on top of lethal enemies
Should be fine
Just make sure someone takes care of pillars
Not always the gunner/driller do somehow
Just absolutely don't let slashers tackle Doretta
She can die very very quickly to 2-3 on her
Also, for some reason there seems to spawn a lot of bulks in the second stage
In all my attempts, be to do it myself or to help others there were 3 minimum
Anyone know how many stops is in the EDD ?
2 I've been told
for Steam EDD*
Okay
anyone can help me with EDD? ive failed it like 5 times and im losing hope
wait theres a bug rn? is that why dorreta is getting like 3 hit kod?
It does when we get 200 escort missions in a row and people say "but devs can't do anything"
they like to watch us suffer
I need 3 for EDD, prefer someone who is familiar with run a little and not gonna die in first 5 sec
ik i cant get through stage 2
and all my groups are first time runners and its super annoying cause ive done the dive 6 times
like i am so tired of the gunner not putting a zip down at start of stage 1
i swear gunners forget they have a zipline
Lol i can relate
I offered my gunner he can land on my head
He instead used a useless zipline
Wasted that precious zipline
Man that elite dive is rough
any1 down to do the elite deep dive
ive tried a few times, not really too tough if theres communication, been going without chat and people start bet-c on their own and stuff
Just had a random dread on the dread mission of the DD. 🤮
Then two bulks on salvage portion once while in the fuel sphere. We are alive still. 😂😂🤮🤮🤮
anyone else have very long load times on EDD stage 2
still need people for EDD
Managed to get through EDD after 2 unsuccessful attempts
Went with 2 gunners because those swarms were ungodly
Would recommend
One with minigun for single target and one with thunderhead for those huge swarms full of grunts and swarmers
sorry @obtuse herald was in a match
just finished the EDD
yeah @wide dove we did exactly that
i think it was a 2+ hour session, and finally as we get to the very end, mollys about to dock. a random detonator spawned on the dropod entrance and downed 3 of my teammates
I was actually scared this would happen but we were good
also it went better on first stop, dozer actually went down instead of stopping as soon as we came into the room, and I don't think a det spawned as we started, unlike the first 2 tries
oh nice
yeah on my 3rd try, were werent spawning in a swarm attack already
luckily
literally no one on my team saw it coming the detonator spawned like below a platform they were standing on, right next to drop pod and downed 3 of them, heart was pumpin there almost got me too
I'm engi
gj man, i think its very doable on first try as long as u have a team that communicates or just listens to your pings and understands what ur doing
just had a few games with people who were doing multiple diff objectives at the same time and stuff and got downed repeatedly because of it
oh yeah lmao
that wasnt too bad for us
the double bet-c's were a little close for us
double BET-Cs?
The first bet c on the second stage i mean
And later on dealing with another bet c
In the 3rd stage
yeah i encountered the same bet-c in every attempt, each attempt was a full squad of 4
weird
first room on stage 2
and theres one early on in stage 3
no BET-C on 2 or 3
I meant on team of 2 or 3 sorry
My host and I both crashed at the end of stage 2
My squad and I failed at stage 2 for all of the 3 times we've attempted it 😭
Lethal enemies in addition to some of the bugs makes it Very Difficult
The cherry on top?
In our 3rd attempt
There was a bulk.
Still stahe 2 mind you.
anyway, second stage was brutal but we somehow did it first try
I think we got lucky because only one bulk spawned
also I like how this edd second stage has two modifiers - exploder infestation and lethal enemies
but only one of them is listed
because there's no explanation to that amount of exploders
We are juice
dude, the sex appeal in that image... 100
I have conpleted EDD, but one attempt still left me salty
We had 4 Detonators spawn during stage 2
I think we only got 2 or 3
Reached the hearthstone with 2 armor plates already lost
Barely drilled it out, got the eggs, ran to extraction
A detonator spawned right on the drop pod
We got f*cked right there
congrats
edd2 is some shit this week
The first stop really feels like it ran out of fuel
I had to deal with a bulk every single attempt multiple times haha, yeah I can imagine messing up stage 2 if not coordinated correctly, we precleared every room
Finally got it, scout was our MVP for carrying us after we all got downed on the last stage. He ran around kiting enemies and ressing while also grabbing morkite, while being chased by a bulk.
this edd is kicking my ass
same tbh
any advice for the 2nd stage?
haz 5 lethal enemies escort is the bane of my existence
pack the hell up on nitra
i just completed round 2
also, have a plan for the det
bring some cryo stuff to freeze it before it blows
I just fucked up an elite dive so bad lmao
We had to gather eggs AND do the drilldozer thing, when the drilldozer got to the core someone in the chat said "let's go" so i activated it
But they wanted to get the eggs, not do the drill
ahh
So we all died 🙃
Weird feeling to get called a noob when you havce 150+ hours but i can't even be mad, it was pretty funny
: (
There s absolutely no reason to get the eggs before the hearthsone is retrieved unless they re actively trying to fail lol I don t think it was your fault
thanks for the advice, we did run a cryo driller (me) and had no problem dispatching the first bulk, but we got overwhelmed on our way to the 2nd refuel stop
lul
Usually dont give my 2 cents on DD but I gotta say. EDD mission 2 was something. Took absolute focus from everyone and myself (whom has 1250 - 1500 hours played) to get it done. No Doretta Damage bug so that was an upside
I understand that. I enter games and lobbies and not a single person will ask for advice, a plan, go "hey he looks compitent" , instead giving me advice or telling me to to this or that or there is so and so over here in the middle of a swarm as if I need a back seat gamer on my shoulder <.>
The team i was with was pretty tense, thankfully very few games are like that. I love this community !
I do feel kinda bad for messing up that dive, but not TOO bad 
guess what... if u dont rock and stone u aint comin home
I feel that :P , and dont worry I am not dissing anyone. Just my more recent experiences. Recently I have got back into the DRG community since my personal Discord mates are dropping the ball.
This EDD has been the most salt I've ever seen in Pug games ever
Most DD I pug are pretty chill, even when we lose. This set, I've had 2 people nearly screaming barely 5minutes in
Biggest gripe with this EDD is how tight and narrow the stages are. You can't really run from any mobs.
I think it's a number of factors. Haz 5 Deadly enemies 2 stop dozer mission. If anything goes wrong you are done.
and there’s also doretta taking more damage than she should normally, apparently
just spend your nitra well
we used 2 resupplies in stage 1 and 4 or 5 in stage 2
even with the nitra reduction it's still a lot
and you need almost every bit of it
this weeks edd is a pain to duo
Hey so as a new player what is the best way to get blank cores?
weekly core hunt and deep dive
You can only get cores through the weekly hunt or Dives (both normal and Elite award 3 cores)
wouldn't recommend edd until you got some big boy OCs
By new player i mean, i already have like 60 hours on my driller
You can only do DDs if you have a promoted dwarf
it's half a matter of gear, half a matter of experi- oh
Wait so,
well there's not really much besides core hunt and deep dives
you should have gotten a blank core if you beat stage 1
if you didn't get a core you should have already gotten one for the week
You get 3 cores, but only once. Your first time clearing the DD
It's a matter of time at this point
Yep, 9 cores/week.
Go do deep dives again?
3 from the weekly, 3 from normal DDs, and 3 from Elite DDs
And they reset every Thursday for me
They're quite hard
Yeah i dont wanna grief my entire team
What hazard level are you comfortable in?
Usually do missions in 3
I can handle 4
But i think 1- it kind of depends on the mission, and 2- i kind of feel like it depends on the teammates too
Like
For my hazzard 5 unlock
Maybe wait until you're more comfortable with 4 than you are now. Regular dives plus weekly core hunt will still net you several cores per week.
And I'm not thinking about your teammates really, I'm thinking about you. If it's not fun, don't do it, since this is a game after all.
True true
But im fine with failing , nothing some beers cant help
I just feel like going jnto EDD without much experience will ruin for others
But thank you for the help!
I was rlly confused as to why I wasn't getting cores
Oh last question
Once i get the blank cores
I use them either for the forge right? Or for the map events that need the key?
Blanks go into the map events with the key
Weapon overclocks or cosmetic overclocks go into your forge
looking for a driller deep dive elite pod 19
where do I see the missions for the normal deep dive?
Anyone down for an elite deep dive?
im during a deep dive and mini-mules dont want to go back to the capsule, so i can't uplink
am i stuck and doomed ?
i already pressed the button on molly
ok gotchu. Thank you
ok bruh, so the mission isn't bugged.
But until i finish the secondary objective, the primary objective wont make progress (uplink)
I rate the EDD this week as a haz 6, a.k.a. RUN AWAYYYYY
Deep Dive are different from normal missions. Both objectives are actually primary objectives.
You can't just skip one. They are not optional.
double gunner on this weeks edd is a must
It isn't.
But it helps.
The "must" part though is not true.
1 AC gunner to focus on the squishies and 1 Mini gunner to deal with the things AC makes it so that the the ability of the rest of the team doesn't matter all that much.
It's definitely doable with many different setups
Yeah, but on weaker teams, double gunner is the easier and simplest way to finish it.
Specfically 1 AC and 1 mini.
Agreed
The easiest setup for this EDD I can think of is EPC/Cryo driller, Nuke Engy, two Gunners geared like you said.
You will have close to 100% shield uptime if necessary.
braindead strat
AC will kill weak mobs and squishies.
Minigun for the fliers, ceiling snipers, and harder targets.
As long as the other two slots can mine efficiently, it won't matter too much as long as your gunners are competent at fighing.
thanks, now it makes more sense
HEY GUYS GOOD NEWS
TO ANYONE EXCITED TO GET PAST STAGE 2 OF EDD
3RD STAGE STARTS WITH 3 SPITBALLERS AND 2 WAVES OF ENEMIES
FCK YOU DRG
I think you need to relax a bit.
git gud
what
to be met by that shit
....
they need to fix this weeks EDD
do you play haz5 at all?
I only play haz 5
stage 2 is broken
It's not broken. It's hard but doable.
no the mission is literally broken
I mean it's harder than normal.
You might not want to run try it with randoms though.
The EDD managed to take 1 down from me.
you dont stop at the right refuel spot
Even with 2 greenies
Look, I beat it blind first try, with that screenshot above.
congrats man
Something is being done poorly.
love to know what
Are you playing gunner or engi?
over 3 days with a different squad almost every time
could be constistently going wrong
i play driller
That's one major problem then.
thats fucking stupid
It is.
then its the games problem not mine
But fact of the matter is, gunner is the most important class on escort.
all missions should be ballanced around a rounded team
What's the average level on the squad?
idk man ive played with like 10 different ones
Honestly, if it's 50 or less I would probably bail.
im lvl 28
i dont want to "cheese" the mission
i want to beat it
how the game is meant to be played
I mean cheese in a very light sense, meaning a non 1 of each class team comp
I don't mean shit like zip camping or bunker
and i want the devs or who ever is in charge to fix bad EDDs like this one
1 of each is still fine
but you need 2 competent players, specifcally 1 on gunner, and one on either driller or engi
So...the team is the problem, not the mission?
especially when playing with groups of over lvl 100
no
the mission is
im saying i played enough games that statistically i can say for sure at least one of the games had 2 compitent players
not that i had 2 overall
Maybe your definition of competent differs from mine.
Where exactly are you wiping?
and to what?
cave before heart stone at first, then i warn my partys about the spitter there so we wipe at heart stone after that (almost every time to a bulk or2 and 1 time to the rocks cause our gunner dcd) then the one time we beat stage 2 we wiped immediatly to the 3 spitballers and 2 oppressor spawns
why are you dying to the spitballers of all things on stage 3?
cause there are 3 of them and they can 2 shot you
and as soon as we step out of ship and run from the 2 oppresoors
we got sniped and 1 shot by them cause we arent full health
and you're jumping into an unknown cave running away from an oppressor?
instead of circle kiting?
then don't peak over it
woulda not done that
had i known there were 3 spitters
but getting 1 shot doesnt give me much time to react
didnt hear it while running
gives you a good 4 seconds to realizes you're about to get shot at
i never said i played the run perfect mate
i said its too hard
i dont think you should have to play perfectly to beat the dive
Maybe; but this just sounds like you're playing with a bunch of people that run haz3
ok and thats never stopped me from beating a EDD before
Or just don't play escort on the harder modifiers
the last 3 i beat in less than 3 trys
the last 3 were among the easiest EDDs I have seen in a year
all im saying is this EDD is SIGNIFICANTLY harder than any other EDD ive ever seen
and that is dumb
It is far from unbeatable
find where i said unbeatable in my messages
and honestly probably not among the top 10 EDDs from my memory
yeah it's not that hard overall
the second stage is pretty punishing
the other two are quite easy
you are also the best you have ever been so that effects your memory
i agree first stage is cake
It's specifcally only really punishing on people that panic or rush
2 bulks at once is not punishing me for rushing
it's punishing towards teams with bad coordination specifically
2 bulks at one is punishing you for not knowing how to deal with them appropriatley
ok you say "punishing for whatever" I say too fucking hard
You focus fire one of them
it blows up to take out the other
it's effectively just 1 bulks HP bar that matters
I dunno, I really like the challenge
there were definitely some stressful moments but I thought this one was incredibly fun
all you have to do is play footsie with the second to keep it in the explosion radius of the first
better than 3 boring ones at least
I'd like a real challenge not this dive
theres a dif. between a challenge and unfair to me.
Ive done it 18 times with at least 10 different groups
it feels really unfair to me
it was an easy EDD a little touchy at the end of stage 2 but all an all it's fine
then, perhaps, you're probably not good enough for the harder EDDs?
then perhaps the EDD was too hard
that, plus driller doesn't really have to tools to solo carry escort
I shouldnt have to solo carry
You re level 28 there s nothing wrong with not being able to complete edd for a week I wasn't even trying edd s before I reached 50
I disagree
Try the EDD with red rock blasters if you are having a hard time of it, that way the only real worry is dorreta
The EDD is absolutely doable. Did it on the second try. The second stage is a bit wonky I will say, but I do appreciate that the Doretta stops don't always have to follow the "enter new room with a perfect flat spot in the middle to park at", this time it just kind of parked in a weird spot.
The spot is awkward because of the sightlines; but driller should be able to improve them drastically.
With that said, what's up with just moving 100 meters or so before stopping? Did management forget to fill it up fully? 😛
I would appreciate it not in the middle of a EDD with lethal enemies mod and bulks spawning
So you bail if your team is under level 50 but you expect them to carry you?
Thing is, 99% of people in this game don't know about sighlines.
also can we talk about the fact that since update 32 came out there have been 8 lethal enemies and 5 of those have been escort? 1 normal dive and 4 EDDs