#deep-dive-discussion
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Yeah this week EDD was a piece of work
Low O2 into Shield Disrupt into Drilldozer with Mactera Plague
I hope for a comfy one this week
we'll see in 10 minutes
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ATTENTION MINERS!
New
Deep Dives
are now available!
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DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Blue Inferno
Stage 1: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite +
2 Eggs |
Regenerative Bugs
Stage 2:
6 Eggs +
150 Morkite |
Low Gravity
Haunted Cave
Stage 3:
200 Morkite +
2 Mini-M.U.L.E.s |
No Mutators!
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Evil Eclipse
Stage 1:
4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box |
Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 2:
200 Morkite +
2 Mini-M.U.L.E.s |
Exploder Infestation
Stage 3:
10 Aquarqs +
1 Dreadnought |
No Mutators!
Doretta is fine if it's 1 stop and there's enough shale in the cave where it stops tbh
She's fun sometimes for sure, but I'm hoping for the week off her on dives
AH why is there a god damn spitballer outside the pod
EDD 2: 200 Morkite + 2 Mini Mules [Exploder Infestation]
Bonus stage
dd3: 200 morkite, 2 mini mules no mutators
edd3: aquark and dread
Point extraction monkaS
Since when do we need to complete the secondary before starting the pumps on refinery deep dive?
Sorry for being slow on updating it this week!
Built all pipelines but I can t start the refinery until I get the eggs it says
I only started deep diving 2 weeks ago but both refineries had that condition @echo edge
EDD 2 so far has been pretty easy
Any mutators on EDD 3?
nope
We haven't had many refinery missions on DD as opposed to escorts lol guess I just never noticed
Just realised if I had called it there s a risk I couldn t have deposited the eggs I m dumdum
Actually no I m confused af right now there s no reason we need to complete secondary before starting the pumps you need to press the button a second time a the end
Maybe because digging eggs during the refining segment would mess with spawns?
LET'S GOOOOOO
EASIEST DAMN EDD THIS WEAK NO CAP
NO ESCORT
NO FUCKING ESCORT
NO ESCORT AT ALL LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
I just lost EDD 3 to a damn spike
Oho! No escort mission? Is that on normal or hard?
both
Cool, thanks.
I don't mind escort missions, but for some odd reason my game crashes on them if I'm in a group. So I soloed deep dives the last 2 weeks.
A valid point. I like mowing down the horde of bugs that follows Dotty in the tunnel though.
I would rather do dozer than refinery tbh. If you can get all three health bars to the last room you're pretty much golden.
NO Drilldozer this week ohhhhhhhhhhhhh yaaaaaa
So I did my first solo DD last night as Promoted Engineer. Had the SMG and the Triple Beam Laser Cannon. A little intimidating. I got through the first one in about 38 minutes, and the second one I almost finished, but a disconnect/game crash right at the end, so, not sure where it ended up.
This week's EDD feels pretty easy
Anyone up for a DD and/or EDD?
the edd doesn’t sound too bad yeah, surprised it didn’t get any warnings on the last level
both dives combined took 60 minutes
That sounds pretty easy yeah
Or at least it doesn’t take that long
escort really does pad out the time spent in the mission
My PuG was able to do it in around 5 minutes, so it was pretty easy.
Make sure to stock nitra for it, kill dread very early, and get objectives done quickly.
(helps if a lvl 300 carries you, tho).
I somewhat kept our team alive as a driller in mission 3 edd.
I imagine that would easily get rough w/out everyone getting work done.
Got down to the wire for us, constant non-stop waves coming in, manage to barely defeat the boss and everyone died while I rushed into the pod securing it.
Nice.
Haven’t done mine yet I struggle with extractions I’m only worried about last stage
How’s nitra in the first two?
My group had like 240+ going into last stage.
First two stages aren't particularly demanding, especially if you're doing them at a good pace.
Nice
Not having any warnings last stage is also a big help, it's ordinary just very hard.
Man those waves on stage 3 EDD were something
PE is usually tricky if you let enemies pile up
It’s why killing dreadnought asap is the best thing to do
Make sure you experience as few waves before the fight as possible so you have everything you need
normal DD very good this week. great mix of difficult terrain and hazards. good entry point for greenbeards
are the huuli hoarders always spawned in the same location? ie did your drop pod land on one in DD
@zenith warren I'll get back to you on that
because that was a nice little bonus
huuli hoarders are the one thing I can't kill effectively
Urrrrgh haunted cave
bulk spawned on stage 1 and I just laughed
yeah, but with low gravity
and 4 eggs in the central room
the brew up for me was the -1 hit to kill terrain brew and it was real handy as solo engi
also, mind the one cave leech in round 2
also oof, ED with a dreadnought? yeah, rush the dread down first.
I think Spawns like Huuli Hoarders and Bet-Cs are dependent on player count
how many players were you with?
Huuli hoarder is based on map seed iirc
Betc as well
They’re spawned when the map generates
well, I got huuli hoarder 4 times in a row at the exact same location on a deep dive sooo
They do
stage 1 I didn't get a BET-C
Exactly, regular DD starts with a Haulii getting killed by the pod
Syncourt did it Solo and got a BET-C
that may have been misrememberance idk
bet-c on solo are easy depending what class you are playing
in the comments they responded that they thought BET-C spawns might be based on player count
IDK about Huulis tho
either that or you just forgot it was there I have no idea
Perhaps betc is a chance thing
we definitely didn't forget
I’m certain on huulis
that'd be weird though
this week's edd looks like a pushover
however maybe it’s because it’s passive
like huuli is passive and passive monsters might spawn in the same spots every time...? Or maybe huulis just have that specific exception bc of how they work
I know spitballers don’t always spawn in the same spots on deep dives so
Maybe it’s a hostile vs passive thing
yeah I dunno
I guess it would make more sense for a super lootbug to spawn for consistent rewards but not enemies that usually spawn on gen
I think bet c spawning is based on if you're playing steam or windows
Not sure tho I don t usually run my dives more than once
Namely if the seed determined the on-gen enemy spawns that would mean a craussus would spawn every time if a deep dive rolled it
Which would be insane
betc spawns affected by steam vs windows??
That sounds so weird to me
I think so, if you get it once Im pretty sure it s always there
We did that and we finished all right, just remarking how many there were per wave. (I even managed more kills than the gunner as scout)
Also damn it was nice having a entire DD that lasted about as long as the average Escort stage
Does everyone drop on top of a hoarder at the start of this DD, or was I just lucky?
all of them do I think
Static spawns are based on seed, so huuli hoarders, spitballers, bet c etc
are you sure about BET-C
I think that's the only one that depends on the player count our something
Or*
Gonna try a couple different sized groups later
last EDD stage sucks for scout.... ran around FOREVER kiting swarm and waiting for bosco to kill dread
EDD mods - Cave leech, Exploder Infest, NONE
Whats this weeks dd fellow miners
not sure. Details for the regular one might be up in chat history
no escort or on-site refining in this week's EDD though
pinned messages
Ok ty
it's always pinned messages
Regen bugs for on site refining steve has activated god mode
In my deep dive we landed right on a hoarder 
unless someone doesn't have that happen, I'm going to assume hoarders are map gen
lol Bosco kill a dread alone?
That must have been pretty sad to watch
I didn't see much of it to be honest lol. I was busy running for my life
Also, I have spoilers for DD and EDD this week if anyone is interested.
oh
Apparently the pins have me beat. XD
the pins always win
as much as you like, but you only get rewards once per week
weeks reset each thursday
you get 3 blanks, 3 OCs and 3 cosmetics from doing the weekly core hunt, DD and EDD
Ah got it ty
then you can get 2-3 from crafting per week
3 is only if you started the week on 4 pips of crafting progress or had extra cores from last week
Doing my first deep dive tonight with me 2 mates, wish us luck!
Hello! I'm a tad too shy to ask for help, so I'd like to know how hard Deep Dives are if you do them solo? It'd be my first Deep Dive overall, but yeah...
I had this exact same question the other day!
DDs are pretty simple on the difficulty scale
So, the responded general answer I got was, "Somewhere between Hazard 3 and Hazard 4 with guaranteed mutations." So, if you have a class that you feel super comfortable with, and reasonably can do a Hazard 4, give it a shot
I think the DDs only get to like 3.5 HAZ, EDDs get to 5.5 HAZ by the last point
I did my first Solo DD the other night with an Engineer, and I felt stressed, but still appropriately tackled
Do the rewards differ from DD's and EDD's?
No, but their reward tiers are separate
if that makes sense at all
each gives 1 blank, 1 weapon, 1 cosmetic
When you say 1 weapon, do you mean an OC?
The first tier of each gives a Blank, second a Weapon, and third a Cosmetic. So if you only want gun stuff and fail the third tier you still get cores.
Yes an OC
yeah, one weapon OC
I never care if I don’t finish a DD so long as I beat the first two tiers tbh.
i need to get driller to Prestige ASAP
I cant think of it being fun to solo as Gunner
Yeah, some classes are easier solos than others
I think engineer and driller might be the most solo friendly.
I'm no super pro at this so anyone with more brainpower feel free to correct me though.
Honestly gunner may not be the most mobile but you learn him solo it's just broken
Wdym broken?
I... am speechless. I don't want to hate or anything. But this weeks elite deep dive felt like Haz 2 with extra steps.
Literally 0 challange.
😔
F
Should be cause of No anomalies
I was really disappointed. I am always doing haz 5 and this "elite" deep dive,... was extremely disappointing 😦
Like,.. really.
The non elite deep dive was more challenging.
Idk how you guys feel about it.
It's all automatically generated
Really?
yeah?
😕
Guess I can complete doing a EDD finally xD
Game really isn't about haz levels imo
Not?
Rock n Stone⛏️
I recently played haz 1, because my friend wanted to complete his|| rollercoaster achievement||. I was tabbed out on youtube for 90% of the mission. idk what you mean about "Game really isn't about haz levels imo" 😆
It's about fun.. Team work.. And much more
That's tue! ♥
And not only about haz levels
Game immersiveness is the best part of this fps game
I agree, but when I read "elite",.. I really don't want a haz 2 with extra steps. No offense,..
😐
The more tough the better. I really want my fingertips to sweat and my keyboard to melt under the macteria heat.
😆
@stable thistle But yeah I get you as well, I am playing this game because of my BF. The fun we have together is absolutely awesome! Even if we yell at each other sometimes, cause we are dumb, is funny at the end. We recently made a good friend in this game and play with him together every time he comes on and we all enjoy the time spent together ♥
Im playing this game for myself. Gonna run the EDD solo soon
Didn't know mining gold can be fun, while macteria spawns inside your face, while 2 boom bugs spawn and 2 team mates are down.
@fresh escarp Play with us? ♥
Isn't the game cross platform?
We are on Winshit
Windows*
♥️
Wait, steam.
Now I am confused!
I am on Windows with Steam installed.
👀
Microsofts weird stored is incompatible with steam? Or Xbox? I am so confused.
Maybe wrong chat, I'll forward it to another... Cause I wanna know.
^
@fresh escarp But ya, feel friended from another system and another mother. Would play with you 10/10 if incompatible machine code wouldn't be a 0/10.
afaik steam incompatible with the msft store version which has cross play with xbox
Feck incompability.
Thank you so much... I really appreciate it. I really, definitely need support right now, since, forgive me if I'm getting too personal but I'm coming out as MtF transgender... So support is awesome for me.
rock and stone sister
Rock and stone brother/sister
I am born intersex, imagine how fecked I am.
😆
I don't know what the feck I am.
All I known is..
Rock and stone.
And mine that fecking Nitra.
👍
AND IF YOU SEE MACTERIA.
Fiire.
Fiiireeeee.
wow that was the shortest friendship in drg chat. another kill for driller 
What
i think mach was making a joke that you disagreed on driller primary
i guess in the driller fandom it's a hatfield and mccoy rivalry? lol
yes. drillers have many enemies, such as glyphids, the scout, drillers using other primaries, the scout again, betsy, far away enemies, the scout
i feel bad as a scout main lol
i love the tool kit but they seem to bring the least to the team in terms of objectives
feels real bad
scout needs a buff
flat out
his role is weird because running ahead of the team isn't always a great idea and the team will enter almost every room anyways
What would you suggest?
well, if terrain gen isn't going to be changed to make him more relevant, then give him some utility passive
I don't want to go off topic since there's a suggestion channel, but my first inclination was long range x ray scanning
pulses all minerals and things for a period of time in a large radius instead of flare gun
but I do love the flare gun
something that increases his ability to Find Things, yes
Or
Allow the flare gun to both provide light and send out "sonar pulses" or something to detect minerals, like you said.
He is called the scout
Or simply have an entirely different secondary gadget to equip
just, something
also his weapons need a balance pass
since everyone but him got one in 1.0
Thats not true
Also, devs mentioned they aren't going to do anything expanding the utiltiy equips
Well I'd figure
Uhh... I thought you couldn't get resources in Deep Dives?
technically regional minerals cant spawn as mineable objects
but, huuli hoarders can spawn
which means you can get biome resources from them
Interesting.. then the drill may have killed one on our way down
it does indeed
huulis appear to be static to seed, so you should have a dead one upon arrival in DD
I see, good to know
Man this weeks EDD is a bit too easy
Doesn't get my blood pumping as most EDDS do
For my first successful edd after failing last week’s solo, I’m ok with it lol
What build should I be using in EDD for Engi?
nukes only and take all the ammo every time
Stage 3 dreadnaught during a swarm is pretty rough, but overall not too bad
This is the easiest EDD in at least a half year
the elitest speed runners would have a field day with this weeks deep dives
I feel like mining and egg collection need to be 300-400 and 6/8 respectively to be difficult compared to other objectives.
whatever you want, really. depends on what OCs you have
I found it a challenge, but to have gotten within half a mission of finishing my first EDD with my crew made it feel easier than I expected
Did anyone else think that there were so so many Macteras in the middle mission? Felt like it was Sploder infested and mactera plague to us
We did it back to back with the regular DD. haunted cave remains my most hated modifier
I think this is the easiest EDD I've ever had
The only time I went down is when I tried power attacking a detonator, it really felt like a slightly harder regular DD
Managed the DD and EDD this morning even with my cat sitting on my keyboard during 3rd stage extract causing me to lose my HUD and the ability to use my laser pointer to find the pod.
Yeah they wrecked me. I almost didn’t get the 2nd stage.
Yeah. The cave layout didn’t help either, exploders from all angles. Still made it and the first EDD I’ve solo’d so I’ll take the win. The Dread wasn’t that bad. Once I got him over the mines he just sort of died.
EDD dredd, at beginning before wave progression in extraction or do aquarqs first ?
PE ramps enemy spawns over time, you need to do dread early to avoid fighting constant enemies for the boss fight.
should you always use ammo overclocks on deep dive or is it silly to overvalue ammo that much?
More ammo != higher efficiency.
Run the overclocks which give you either the best efficiency or the most utility (nitra isn't a huge issue either).
yeah, nitra spawns are the same as normal caves afaik. if you dont have ammo issues on those, you won't have ammo issues on deep dives
especially if you get an escort mission as your first level, 'cause you'll probably have tons of leftover nitra after that
Pop the dread right after the first wave
I agree with @echo edge , we committed the error to not wait for the first wave before we started dredd. Lost theEDD cuz of that, we were running sub 40mins. Around 30mins up to that point
There s often too many bugs when you first drop in, if you start the dread after clearing there s a good chance you ll get the first swarm during the fight
Same when you get an event on regular PE/refinery
I did it backwards without thinking. I hope others don't make the same mistake
As engineer, which loadouts would you recommend for edd?
alone? 2/3/4 man?
I used warthog no OC, Breach Cutter with the clean ammo/reload OC, Gemini Defender, Proximity mines. Did both solo.
Multiplayer. sorry about that, should have been more specific
what do you like most and what OCs you got
because what you're comfortable with is what's going to get you through
and the EDD this week is easier than usual, so it's a good time to give it a try
so what I use is stubby 12112 with em refire and BC with 12112 with high voltage crossover and LUREs
you go flat damage on stubby because it not only lets you hit the swarmer 15 breakpoint, but because extra electricity doesn't... do as much. you already innately have that debuff
and I take the armor shred, not the stun, on BC because of praetorians and more importantly: shellbacks
since you're running super high damage already, nothing survives long enough to be stunned unless it's something like a praetorian anyways
fire one BC line, swap and hose with stubby
for warthog and PGL? don't use them, ask one of the other engi mains in drg chat
return to sender is better than spinning death now
I don't use it because I prefer having a guaranteed source of electrocution and I don't want to have my BC out for more than half a second
but it's fine. I'd consider running extra ammo to mitigate the ammo malus, so the only thing you lose is you don't get a t2 mod there for no downside
natalie is in drg chat right now so you can ask her
I'm basically Machs anathema then. Since I basically always use Magnetic Shotty and Fat Boy
Well I can’t believe we survived that elite dive
I’m driller. Engineer is a bit trigger happy with fat boy
In cave 2 after we got everything, the scout ran off and tried to kill a hoarder by himself
Didn’t even get a single gem from it
And stage 3. While half our team is down, the gunner decides to go to the egg and activate the dreadnaught
And so me and the engineer died a whopping 8 times from that dreadnaught
dang
welp
i just completed my first solo deep dive, 3rd deep dive ever
the second mission of this week's dive has given me flashbacks to my first dive where half of the lobby quit after 10 minutes of the first mission
i knew it was good luck when the drop pod smashed a hoarder during the first mission
Me and my friends are very new to deep dives. We got out at the Haunted level and said, "Oh, cool. Spooky!" Little did we know we would be frantically screaming and running for our lives. Very fun, made it out alive.
oh yeah this haunted cave was fun
especially the vertical room that had most of the eggs 
It was pretty hilarious
Can confirm there was a lot of panicked running away
DD wasn't too bad. think i'll try my first EDD tonight
the haunted cave big central room was cool yeah.
So my first EDD was last weeks and I didn't think it was bad lmao. Was my team just that good?
i dont think last week was too bad
i almost did it solo with driller on my first attempt
Ugh im still mad about my first EDD
The one with Lethal Enemies Drilldozer two eggs stage 2. Pisses me off that I was so close to escaping
Someone give this person their own channel for specifically posting this and this only
it's already recorded in pinned messages
Oh cool
what if they added ocs to your tools? wouldnt that be pretty cool? i wonder what they could come up with
i think they said it would be too big of a PITA
If it wasn’t for the gunner, I’d honestly say normal deep dive is about as hard
Though I also had a bad team in Deep Dive
I have the egg and I’m being chased by the ghost...but scout REALLY thinks he needs Molly right fucking now
And keeps trying to play tug of war with me
okay noob question.
I just did my promotion
can i bring my friends on a deep dive?
that have not done so?
no
all need a promoted dwarf
I got my first promotion yesterday
I play enginner and my brother plays driller and gunner.
Naturally he got the spinning death breach cutter overclock and the cycle overload shotgun one and I got the six shooter overclock and the sticky additive one for drilller
lmao
the red flag
I love when they Fat Boy a single glyphid grunt and down a teammate.
and we have to wait like a minute
oh i probs shoulda put it here
my favorite past time is getting to stage 2 of a DD and it drops the pod right ontop of a ghost and TONS of bugs and we died inside the pod because we couldnt leave
???????
absolute mad lads
sigh
doesn't seems very ammo-effective xD
Weird, I always were invincible when inside the drop pod at the start of a mission
yea like the ghost just camped hard and we were overun but all the bugs, literally could not get out and when we tried to the ghost kept stomping
it was annoying :l
inside and out. We had to force our way out of the pod because we were dying but literally it didint matter because the ghost and all the glyphids were just ontop of us
EDD was super easy this week
things are so much faster without escort mission
sweet jesus
does the point extraction time modifier scale relative to the amount of time you're on that stage of the deep dive, or the entire mission time?
Yo miners, is it me or the EDD of this week is pretty easy and straightforward? I mean, last EDD with doretta + mactera's plague was hell xD
Yeah, it's pretty cake.
Still trying to pull for Snowball or Special Powder...
This is like week... 5 or some shit?
The trick is to not think about what you want to pull otherwise it s the last thing you ll get trust me
That s just how it works
That's not true because
I said to the Core Infuser, out loud: "Give me Lead Storm for Minigun please" and pulled it
lol
two things are true: the desire sensor knows what you want and will deny you, and the machine spirit will reward you for obeisance
lol
first EDD complete today. missed the speed dive achievement by 2 min lol
1 and 2 werent bad, but 3 was spicy
i got speed dive cheevo tho
43ish timer
the dd seed is blessed tho
you land on top of a hoarder
hah yes
ill probably try to speed dive the dd tomorrow
im deep dived out for today
I have 7 matrix cores this is impossible. How unlucky am I? I can't find single mission with machine event
XD
Your offerings to the omnissiah are clearly lacking. 😋
Is it unethical to join EGG’s if I’m only like lvl 26 lol
Idk when it’s okay to start
@turbid ginkgo me and another 150 took two greenbeards on a EDD - it was pretty epic but we got through it first try. I'd say it's no problem to try it
you'd wanna be comfortable on at least H4 first though
you can start whenever you want but I'd suggest playing haz 4 and 5 a bit before that, to see how it goes.
finally EDD without escort
love it
finished the EDD in 35 mins, first escort mission ALONE last week was 30 minutes
Had 4 detonators on the first stage of DD 
That last leg is a doozy
is the last stage of the deep dive haz 3 or 4?
anyone want to do a deep dive?
Do you get a blank every first deep dive as reward?
DD, EDD, and weekly core hunt all provide cores in this order:
Blank
Weapon OC
Cosmetic
i've done 2x deep dives and its showing me no blanks lol
it shows up by your Currency yes?
It should, yes
trying to farm overclocks
You can only get cores from DDs once a week.
(so, max of 9 cores each week, 3 blank + 3 weapon OC + 3 cosmetic, 11 if you include the ones you're rewarded from forging).
sorry, pretty new what do you mean cores?
right
so if i've already done it i cant get anymore?
do you get any rewards addition for EDD? Never done one.
If you've already gotten the blank core from the DD this week, you won't be able to get it again until next week when DD resets.
Thanks For clarification
EDD and DD are separate, so you can get cores from both of them.
DD is 3 -> 3.5 -> 3.5 hazard, EDD is 4.5 -> 5 -> 5.5
danm
This week's EDD is pretty easy, though, and if you just want weapon OCs then you only really need the first two stages.
Cosmetic is only really useful for getting forging mastery.
i mean ill go all the way through 😛 just trying to get oc's
Yeah, just saying that if the last stage stumps you don't sweat it, it's the hardest part this week.
Appreciate it
if you do everything you should get 3 blanks, 3 weapon ocs, 3 cosmetic ocs, and 2-3 cores from crafting a week
@rough fossil you'd be surprised how just being competent outweighs levels. I've played with 5+ prestige scouts that don't flare. I carried my first EDD with 1 star. Dont be afraid to go in, just do your job and that's all you need.
right. adhere to the division of labor to get everything done as fast as possible
oh im definitely good at that lol love my engi and digger. haven't tried the other two, prestiged them both
also just trying to get OC's so i can do more dps/ etc
half the OCs you won't use
You will eventually run down your possible OCs so that you can get the OCs you actually want, but that may take a while.
a few months if its weekly lol
You bet, you have to get through ~96 of the things.
anyone wanna run a EDD with me?
how do you post like they do?
You need to have DRG open (probably in lobby) and Discord needs to be able to display that you're playing DRG.
If that's all well and good, if you go into #lfg-steam there should be a small green play button on the plus icon on the left-most side of the chat bubble where you type stuff (the plus itself is for uploading media).
That green play button should let you post game invites via Discord.
Thanks again! you've been extremely helpful today.
Sweet.
Oof.
okay, got it working but i still don't have that green button
shows im playing the game above my user
pinned messages #lfg-steam for instructions
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ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks
Deep Dives
!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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For whatever reason I joined EDD lobby with driller that I suck at, even though I didn't plan that at all, and third stage was hell of a crap
Thankfully I got carried though
Quick question: for DDs and EDDs, is it better to wait till all classes have been promoted, at least, once?
It you're not hosting, it's better yeah
There's nothing forcing you to though but that way you can take up any roles
Better to start as early as possible. Cores are time gated.
Nah, I only promoted every class recently and have been doing EDDs for a while now
DDs you should attempt immediately after your first promotion Imo
only do EDDs when you have a lot of confidence in yourself and your builds
This week is an easy EDD. If you can breeze though Haz 4 you'll be able to manage it.
Huuli Hoarder as well in like the 2nd stage or something
I wonder if it's worth to farm it
maybe for a driller. kill hoarder, deposit, and C4 out
really?
yeah for the rewards bonus
thought you got it as long as you deposit
faster to suicide
Find I get plenty of Jadiz focusing on Caverns/Bogs regardless
it might be faster, but Idk if it's more total loot
I don't thing the loading screens are quite long enough to outweigh loosing ~100% hazard bonus.
yeah you're probably right
I think this Deep Dive is when I'm going to organize my Melee damage only run
What ?
What do you mean ? 😄
9 cores are available weekly
1 each for assignment, DD, and EDD respectively
You can never touch the DD and EDD and still get everything
yes
It will take you more time obviously but you're not missing on anything really
other than a lot of fun
@young roost The only benefit to waiting is that you can play every class, but if you only have one class to work w/ then you can just play that one class in a group that happens to need it.
Not really worth farming hoarders in DDs.
I assure you minerals will not be your bottleneck in this game. It's machine events and crates/lost packs.
but huuli's are fun to chase in cave leech modifiers 
Anyone for normal deep dive?
Is there any command for bot to show DD/EDD's stage mods?
No, as it's spoilers but you can look it up in the chat
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Hi guys, what are you most looking forward to on new patch? 🙂
gun
which one?
The Big one
there's no specific place to hunt for bittergems right
Naw
not sure if this is a common or annoying question
but can someone please explain to me why everybody considers return to sender as a top tier overclock for the BC
i see it in literally every single guide, walkthrough, reddit post, honestly have no idea why its regarded so highly
im also not very experienced at engi but ive been playing for a tad and just got return to sender and it seems like if you're trying to burst something down its far faster to just fire 3 non return to sender shots at something
even then in order to max return to sender efficiency you have to hold LMB which prevents you from turning around in emergency cases where youd like to fire a shot in several directions
people praise it for its ammo efficiency (?) but i dont understand why you wouldn't just go for the increased ammo overclock instead
oh god i posted this in the wrong chat
I don t see where you reposted this but to make a short answer there s not many bugs you d want to shoot 3 non rts at it s just a waste of ammo, instead just shoot one rts and finish off with something else
Ultimately return to sender almost doubles your dps if positioned well, for a minor ammo cost
it’s usually the best to use if you just want a breach cutter that kills things
If you target a pretorian, you d want to get closer to minimize the time you re holding LMB and utilize the projectile's lifetime when it s returning to hit other bugs if you have good positioning
But other ocs can work very well
roll control and spinning death are fun
if potentially impractical
Extra ammo is always nice, as well. Stock BC is already very strong, so just giving it extra shots isn't a bad idea.
thats all fair enough i guess
honestly i think i just need to be better with control and not a panic spammer
the BC is just so forgiving with its base ammo and damage
With rts you get 15 shots dealing 1150 for a total of 17250 with ammo case you get 24 shots dealing 575 for a total of 13 800 dmg
Also, if you need to panic fire you don't have to activate RTS even w/ RTS on, you can just tap fire and lose out on damage if it's necessary.
The biggest downside to rts imo is the overkill potential, depending on what you re using it on you won t necessarily be dealing the full 1150 DMG if they die on the return
I actually don't think it's that good, so we agree on this.
I did my EDD with all my classes
Anyone up for casual deep dive?
Get this man a casual deep dive
i think last week was easier, our team got utterly messed up by the dreadnouhgt
Dreads are always easier solo since it doesn’t switch targets. Teams on dreads gets tricky fast
I mean, except when the dread refuses completely to show you its back
and just turns during stand still animations
How can I fully complete a solo deep dive? I always die can anyone give me some tips?
I usually play gunner
ive only ever been able to solo deep dives with scout
Why do people try to pull EDDs at like level 15
Don't die 😂
Because nothing is stopping them, and there are no costs for trying and failing.
I guess you're right. just kind of sucks to have to carry the team when our gunner keeps going down, and scouts keep getting themselves killed trying to save him
Most of the skill of pub EDD is knowing when to bail when you enter the lobby.
Also true, lmao
I just thought, "oh, never seen someone so low in an EDD lobby, maybe it'll turn out all right
Well i tried the same EDD with a avg. Lvl on 500 and on 60.. and can only conclude the lvl don't say shit.. about how it will go
Oh and I'm ~80 so i was pulling the avg way down, when playing with the heigh lvls
Because 
Definitely something I learned too when I started "gettin good" at the game. When to just cut your losses and leave a game early
Sometimes it's just not worth it
What hazard is Deep Dives? I just unlocked earlier and don’t know any details on this
Levels are correlation, not causation.
But you can tell in game, very quickly, when somebody is not good or not experienced.
Thanks
The difficulty at haz5+ is usually more dependent on modifiers than anything else IMO
Mutators, warnings
whatever they're called
It's to the point where it's actually irrelevant on the higher end.
Because stage 3, you drop in with 500+ nitra.
And in the face of that, mutators have no influence.
Not matter how hard or easy the mutator itself is.
Because it's overshadowed heavily by the ability to spam utility that is normally limited by scarcity.
As you go lower down the skill curve, you'll start to see differentiation between the mutators again.
With shieldless and lethal enemies on top, mactera below that, and everything else being a bit of a joke.
shoutout to the lvl 1000 driller who kept throwing in my Deep Dive a few weeks back
sounds like a cheater
1000 player level was a popular one for people hacking their levels
because they had good TCF mechanics, just kept going on side quests and dying instead of helping the team
Plenty of options tbh, could be straight drunk IRL too
yeah it's certainly a possibility
What are the missons this deep dive?
check pins
Thanks
rocknstone to that
Carl would be proud
i can never get past stage 2 of deep dive
Gotta get a decent team and work together
I've gotten murdered by the hecking weed like 3 times today
wahoo, i completed my first ever deep dive today. just under an hour on solo 🙂
dumb question, but can people who haven't promoted do deep dives? like can my friend who is not promoted run a deep dive while i am?
What hazard are deep dives?
Anyone who needs help with deep dives i can carry snyone through them pretty much ! Been playing the game for a while just hit me up ! Pretty busy these days and pnly really play evening GMT !
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In my opinion, it would be great if you could unlock permanent bonuses as soon as you reached certain levels
anyone deep dive
Unfortunately, perks are the only advancement in the game. I think with level bonuses the motivation would be higher. I have now played 55 hours and only skins are no progress for me.
The progress comes in getting better and being able to handle tough situations
This is an open game where you get what you make of it
The fact that you can enter end game so early is dope, tons of time to explore
Overclocks to get etc
If you're only 55 hours in, you surely have very few of the overclocks
Plus the game is already super balanced
Boosting higher levels does nothing but make it more tiresome to balance an already solid system
This is just one of those games where as you play, you get better rather than your character
what are the mission types for this weeks dd?
Check pins
I haven't been able to clear an EDD solo yet. I'll guess ill keep working on haz 5s until that gets more consistent
What exactly does the inferno OC do?
suck
lower and turn 90% of your damage into heat, lower your ammo massively and armor break for the benefit of burst lighting enemies it hits ablaze
Yeah that doesn't seem to great
This is the week to do it.
Or today, rather. It’s gonna change in under 24 hours
I gave it 2 tries. Died while trying to escape the 2nd mission both times was using Cryo driller fragile, with epc. Im only level 35 or so so lots to get accustomed too still
anyone wanna speed dive the DD?
When does the deep dives reset?
In 14hrs
quick question: are deep dives hand-made, and not proceduraly generated?...
Procedurally generated
I could've sworn the DD I launched yesterday was the same map. And the drop pod landed on the hoarder as well. How could that be coincidence?
It’s the same seed for the entire week
So it is the same exact map for the whole week
Yes
I see. I guess "hand-picked" would be more accurate than "hand-made"
They aren’t hand picked either. They’re procedurally generated at the reset then the seed is kept for that week.
^
Procedural, but static as opposed to random.
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How long does it take to complete a normal deepdive?

I just completed my second solo elite dive
About an hour or so. It really depends on what missions you get stuck with
depends on ho experienced you are, the haz level for them is pretty low so they go very quickly
if you can do a haz 3 mission fast, you can do the deep dive stages faster in general
as nitra is way more abundant
same with edd and haz 5
Hey there, I’ve never tried a Deep Dive before, wondering if there’s anyone willing to add me to their crew for my first one
All good, just wanted to put it out there!
Gotcha
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mine are showing
second edd is 6 eggs, 150 morkite and regen bugs
Yo, did something get fucked?
I'm in dense biozone?
Did my host not reset their game?
no dorry yet
Don't hold your breath, been one nearly every week since 32 lol
Okay, yeah, I saw blockbox and thought it was right but we had eggs instead of morkite.
Fuckin' el
Had a bulk spawn on exfil of first stage DD. Just kept on truckin. Forget that.
Low O2..
low o2 stage 2?
DD yeah. 4 eggs and 1 dread.
oh dread, yike
edd 3rd stage volatile guts, 7 aquarks 1 dred
no warnings? pog
man eggs are prolific
edd is pretty ez, no shitty modifiers, caves are simple
both end stages have volatile guts only? that rng is wild
sounds quite doable this week, ill give it a shot tomorrow 😄
will definitely have fun with the exploding bugs
Loads of nitra on the DD too. I’m going into the last stage with >300
no dorry no refinery
damn EDD was easy this week. probably even easier than last week's
Nice
DD is a dream if you hate the long or ramping tasks.
Yay no haunted cave this week
No escort lets go
the eggs are all pretty close though. One of the easier low oxygen's.
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yup, pretty easy runs this week 🙂
and they slow it down a ton
I have won solo EDDs with escorts
Drilldozer in EDD is pretty slow and i don't like it in EDD but in my opinion i find it more fun than getting refinery
got on DD , completed 2 out of 3
got the mission recap just before the third stage and boom
game crashed, can't rejoin anymore my party ...
sadness ...
I could probs solo both these deep dives if i wanted too, no harm in trying that right?
go for it
know what, i think i will
If you regular haz 4 this DD is going to be normal for you.
Haven't done the EDD yet, but that feller up there said it's easy.
i wouldn't be surprised, also i haven't solo'd an EDD in forever so we'll see how things go
may go scout for DD, maybe gunni or engi for EDD?
Lots of dreads this week. I would just run whatever you like fighting them with.
well then, Engi it is, lol
course most of the dread are on the reg. dive this week, Elite only has 1
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<@&296918282403840000> Would be nice if you guys pinned this please :)
I see the drive link tho.. But not everyone likes to click on link :(
Thank you very much :)
Thanks @quiet mortar for the post.. Keep us updated on weekly Deep Dives if possible.. Much appreciated 
Been going for Months, ain't stopping now! Rock and Stone! 
Engineer is a much safer pick in those situations
Thank Karl for another round of deep dives without escort
they are both done, no downs on either as well
@formal thorn I did both Solo, also my Elite run was like 2 min.s faster than the reg. lol
2 weeks in a row with no escort?
What is this blessed black magic?
Ikr
Related to escort though, Bosco with fast cooldown rockets helps a ton for beamers.
It's not bad really, just an auto-scroller
Dude nice work! what was the toughest part of the EDD?
this edd felt easier than the previous one
trying to find the pod at the end of the EDD 3rd stage, got a bit lost XD
it was like doing regular dd
but i did luckily, it was a little room like where you would find an jem or 2, and even nitra
I felt the same way until i unlocked his other weapons
@formal thorn i'll send you a DM in a bit to show you my Engi loadout for the EDD
Oh I’ve got it handled
Besting it now
Did get grabbed by a leech in the dread fight which was something. But other than that it was pretty smooth.
No escort this week? Huzzah!
You're welcome. I've sacrificed much nitra to Karl for this.

Are there any morkite sections in the standard DD?
I see there is one for the first stage, but what about the rest?
check pins for the objectives, but also no
so i'm noob to the DD discussion. What does POD mean? tried looking it up.
as in drop pod or supply pod
the former brings you in and out of mission, the latter contains ammo
I get that, but what are the numbers in LFG that every one refers to after (I.E. POD 27, or POD 16>)
voice chat rooms are called pods in this server. scroll down the channels a bunch
mb I didn't understand your initial question
you're welcome
What happens if the drop pod leaves without you in the first two stages of a deep dive? Do you spawn in the next stage or have to spectate
Ah ok, the wiki says you spawn into the next stage
lel what
just had a really cool first deep dive. do cosmetics/pickaxe parts show up in them? we cleared most of the maps, but i didn't notice anything beepin'. just wondering
gotcha. thanks!
Peaches is wrong. they cannot spawn in deep dives
Cargo crates, lost helmets and events do not spawn on deep dive, you also won t find any minerals other than nitra/gold
is there a multiplier in DD btw ? like the hazard ones
I mean xp/creds multipliers
because if there aren't then gold is indeed very useless in DD
The DEVS themselves don't even mine the gold in dd.
it's not about the money, it's about sending a message
Devs dont mine gold because they have everything unlocked lol
mining gold is just fun anyway, and plus, promotions cost $$$
Mining gold on edd can be your death sentence unless you really know swarm timing, you are there to get the weekly core rewards and get out I wouldn't risk 1h30min for merely 2k gold bonus
You have the unpopular opinion btw but sure lol. No one is debating mining gold a regular mission we specifically said on DD/edd
It's w/e on DDs because they're so easy but it's generally agreed upon that mining gold during an EDD is bad practice
the bonus is shit too
I have a bad habbit of treating DD like EDD.
And my team mates thinking i'm sweating too hard.
@shadow minnow I had the same problem so here's my advice: run a meme build
Meme build in dd? :p
Face Melter with Tranquilizer Rounds? check
I don't have any good ocs to make a meme build.
Turret Arc with Proxy Nukes? sure, why not
Hipster with cryo minelets? go for it
just have some fun with builds that are normally too terrible to run in haz 4 & 5
I don't have enough ocs to make meme builds.
2 months and still nothing really nice from my ocs.
LAst weeek I got no driller ocs AT ALL and that was my goal.
Are there any missions that you can't get in a DD? I'm trying to figure out what build to take.
the missions are all pinned
Great thanks
IMO gold mining depends on your group. My regular group and I assume you're not a real dwarf if you don't mine gold. But in EDD sometimes things just go too fast and gold veins get missed.
We did lose the driller a few times to "I'll go satchel the vein and I'll be right back!"
I only grab gold if I have a power attack ready or playing the driller with EPC. I do still try to get the most out of crassus detonators.
Just out of curiosity
Why are most deep dives unjoinable
Is it because they choose to be solo or is there a point of no return or new comers?
After the mission starts nobody can join
Whats the meta loadout for Scout?? Just started playing after some time
Usually Bullets of Mercy and Jumbo Shells
Would state that while numerically not entirely meta, AI is also good fun for the GK2.
So, has anyone else found the resource packs in game? it's something you can pick up and deposit like a crystal or gem
Most people ignore them/don't know what they are
Yes, they only spawn if someone leaves the match w/ things on them.
my deep dive screen says the countdown to new deep dives is in the negative and climbing and no deep dives show up. Is that just me?
So why did the devs make the bug reporting a third party client that no one is going to use?
Seems really counter intuitive to just
Having a chat for it that you assign an admin to?
Having a ticketing system is standard practice in enterprise environments.
Do you mean like a general chat with anyone to add to? Do you realize how quickly that would fall apart lol
I mean, I know of plenty of other games with discords that have a bug chat where you only post if you have a thorough post to make. It's called having an admin? Another, "Standard practice." Or they could have gone the even simpler route and added a bug report ticket system in game like plenty of other platforms. Making a whole third party system with an account requirement is just a great way to deter people from reporting a bug.
Doing our second deep-dive ever. Low O2 mission, kill a dreadnought & eggs. Scored the killshot with a supply-pod by accident, preventing a wipe.
We had at least 3 or 4
IMO the EDD felt easier than the DD this week. Probably mostly because fuuuuuuuck dense biozone
and the edd maps were super easy. especially the third
the biozone is a fuck
rez is kinda boring and empty but it makes for an easy edd
only very briefly felt in danger in 2nd stage when someone accidentally fell off a cliff
we had all 10 aquarqs in like 3-4 minutes
last EDD mission was probably the easiest of all the missions across both Deep Dives this week
yeah it was kinda nutty how fast we did it
the second stage just swarmed us with unannounced spawns in a tight cavern
and a menace that kept running off at the last second
almost failed there
we got the dive for speed achievement qualification on the edd without even trying. kinda bummed i did the dd a second time last week just to get the achievement lol
Are the deep dive maps always the same?
Ah ok, now the whole speedrun thing makes sense. Thanks
Just had the bulk detonator spawn ON TOP of the drop pod. Pod spawn in a place where we were trapped in a little pocket. Luckily 2 of us made it inside.
Hyped for this thursday with the update. I wonder if the deep dives are gonna feature the new maps
theyve said theyre able to affect the deep dive rng, it'd surprise me if we don't get the az weald as DD and a hollow bough EDD
Wished we do, I'd go for them blindly
Would someone be able to help me beat the current deep dive because I did it with someone else but we kept failing on the second stage and then he left
I would but there’s so many non-promoted people who can’t do deep dives plus I never see anyone else doing them on the server chooser
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any time i try to join a deep dive it's greyed out. is that bc it's in progress?
ya you can't join them in progress
ok ty
I did this DD today and it was my first one
Again this week's EDD was a cake! Hope the next will be challenging 😁
The next one on the new maps hype
i hope the EDD is hollow bough
That'll be an interesting endevour if that's the case
I also just did my second deep dive ever
We beat it
Eventually I'll tackle the elite
I need help on the EDD
Fucking
I've tried 4 times... I just hate going in solo. I'm goo but not too good
just get good
for those who thought the EDD was easy (which includes myself), are they normally much harder than that? ive only started doing EDDs again recently
is double exp possible on a deep dive stage
Negative.
Yes they are usually notably harder. This weeks was basically just 3 haz 4's with a lot of nitra to be completely honest.
So much nitra in fact that on the last stage the dread was probably half killed by the burst from all of the mines.
ok thanks, a lot harder is what i remember experiencing last i played a few months ago. looking forward to more challenge
That's because of the goals tho, morkite is easy. Just clink. The eggs are essentially "choose when the swarm shows up" and gives you tons of control. Aquarqs with Bosco are a non-factor, and solo dreads don't actually have that much health. So the hard part was the black box and the cave leeches. Once we get Doretta back, we will miss the cave leeches.
The next major update will see an overall reduction of nitra spawning for deep dives I believe. Its a change on the experimental branch.
I've heard that as well. I prefer to do my dives solo because of scheduling, so I doubt it will hurt me, but the teams will feel it, I'm guessing.
there werent any debuffs (not sure what to call them, stuff like mactera plague, shield disruption, etc) on this latest EDD iirc
so beyond just objectives, the caves themselves were easier
first stage had Cave Leech Cluster, second stage had Regenerating Bugs, and third stage had no debuffs.
Mission modifiers are called mutators, split up into warnings (always detremental, but also gives extra XP) and anomalies (neutral to purely beneficial, no extra XP)
thanks! easier to explain things when i have the terminology haha
Yeah the mutators were kind of light the last 2 weeks
Caveleech is always tricky, and bug regen can be tough
But a stage 3 with no mutators is pretty lenient
and cave leech isn’t too bad for me
It can destroy you if you get caught once, though
The thing about Cave Leech - it does scale with Hazard. iirc EDD goes 4.5 / 5 / 5.5 and the leeches were first stage, so really they weren't that bad. Also, if you get wiped on a leech, they will be in the same spot when you try again and you don't have to redo multiple levels to learn where the leeches are. Leeches on 3rd stage is when they start to hurt.
Leeches on 3rd stage would be pain.
shield disruption third stage with two spitballers right outside
I'm doing my first deep dive, just finished stage 1. Am I supposed to do all stages at once (and how many are there?) or can I take a break and do stage 2 tomorrow?
You do them all in a row, but if you're busy and need to go off for the time being, you can redo the deep dive to get the other rewards later.
You know why I keep failing EDDs?
I just... Hate the fact I'm so lonely which puts me in a pissy mood so i fail
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