deep-dive-discussion

[paper sinew]

managment wants a lot of morkite this week too huh

[lunar linden]

2 dreads haunted cave

ew

that stinks

[cold kindle]

Looks like we should bring umbrella on DD

[mystic horizon]

rise and shine wave cooker its time for duck and cover...

[raven carbon]

Fairly easy dives but quite a slog

Good driller will make it faster

Lots of tunnels needed

Haunted cave one is a little tricky if you pop the egg in the wrong place otherwise easy

[vagrant acorn]

Last stage of EDD had 2 bulks and ghost following us into a pit with barrage

[mystic horizon]

sounds fun

[static lichen]

bungus fogs
why

[vagrant acorn]

We haven’t found the mushroom

0/10

[fresh robin]

Oh boi this EDD looks fairly balanced this week

With thw mission types, I have the perfect build I've always wanted to try out

PBM + Mole/Hellfire

Haunted Cave Elimination is gonna be quite a challenge

[winter veldt]

good idea I will try this too

[rose shore]

Dreadnaught with a ghost??????

duck and cover is manageable, wtf do you prepare against a boss if it has another enemy providing area denial???

[lunar linden]

1 guy lures the ghost

and the other 3 fight the boss

[rose shore]

even worse its in fungal bogs

[rose shore]

good strategy, but what about soloing it?

I mostly solo these

[lunar linden]

get fucked lol

thats pretty much what haunted ghost is

[rose shore]

I'll probably be doing long circles doing pot shots against the boss

embedded detonators will help, stack that damage then go boom when time is right

[amber venture]

just had the most stupid EDD run, 4 engie

it was kinda stomping the first 2 maps, then haunted cave just caused us to go from 3 death to 27

[warm dew]

yo you wanna do the deep dive?

[amber venture]

gotta take a nap sadly, work soon ish

just wanted to get weeklys out of the way

gl

[rose shore]

any tips for the edd? and the dd?

[fierce pecan]

i havent finished yet, im still in the loading screen between stage 1 and 2

[rose shore]

in the last weeks dive or this weeks dive?

sorry for the ping

[fierce pecan]

last week's dive

crystalline caverns

[rose shore]

ooooohhhh GL

[iron berry]

welp the last EDD almost failed cause my team lack of saying stuff and awareness

[cursive escarp]

this weeks edd was actually pretty easy to solo for the first 2 stages

last stage was kinda longer than i expected myself to take though

[dull leaf]

first edd stage is chill

last stage will be my nightmare tonight

[fringe kestrel]

DD is extreme easy this week

Easiest objectives. Only Duck and Cover is a bit annoying, but at Haz 3 they do no dmg anyway

[edgy tartan]

Seems I joined on with three greenbeards. First EDD mission lookin' like it's gunna end us.

[cursive escarp]

i completed one with randoms earlier

genuinely most competent edd team ive ever had

[mellow cradle]

generally, the sooner you do the dives, the more competent the teams on pubs

[fluid cipher]

The devs REALLY love haunted cave

My goodness the past few weeks the EDD has been haunted caves.

[eager atlas]

the devs don't choose the dives, save for special occasions, it's all rng

[mellow cradle]

wasn't it just for two weeks though?

[vital epoch]

Aye, the only time I remember the devs stepping in for the dives was week 173b, that one week where Caretaker had been a mission for several weeks in a row, and they wanted to reroll it.

Anyways, good EDD week, though Horrors and Hiveguards cause casualties. My advice, just go ping crazy, gotta keep eyes on where all the big booms are coming from.

[mellow cradle]

they also stepped in for season 5 opening week

[vital epoch]

Oh, what did they do? Guarantee Deep Scan? I think I vaguely remember the new mini-refinery mission.

[mellow cradle]

well, "stepped in", more like rerolled until it was sarisfactory

yeah, just showing off new main and side objectives

[twin cape]

Hot damn, that edd was intense. Possibly the most fun boss fights I've ever had.

[fluid cipher]

Dash really saved my life a few times there.

[covert ledge]

I have just escaped from the hellishness of a 1:30:00 EDD run of this week, third stage was over 1/2 the time and most of the deaths, we turned the pod room into swiss cheese from the amount of exlposives, dwarven and boss that went down. (we lost)

[muted widget]

are deep dives handpicked?

[eager atlas]

no.

[elder wedge]

really just had a host ragequit and close the lobby on stage 3 of the edd because someone lured the horror away

🤦🏻‍♂️

[nova vortex]

man i just joined in my first deep dive and then when its almost ended IT DISCONNECTED ARRRRRRRRRRGH

curse you slow internet connection

i wish we can reconnect again or somethin

[tender halo]

happens to me way too many time

one of the reason i avoid joining > medium range server

[brave comet]

This EDD is diabolical

[nova vortex]

yeah like a second a go im currently at 2nd stage and it hanged rn lmao sadge

[brave comet]

I've been fighting with those big bomber plants nonstop

[raven carbon]

Yep between Thursday and Sunday is the best time

[raven carbon]

Scout luring ghost or several gunner ziplines in the spawn room

Did it with pubs the second tactic worked okay

First attempt clear but took a while

[raven carbon]

A competent driller and some tunneling in advance will help

Some of the caves are very cramped

[grand schooner]

Is there a reason the Deep Dives don't get pinned to the subreddit anymore?

[mystic horizon]

runnin compound pgl on this normal deep dive feels really funny

especially on stage 1

one blast and you fly pass the whole acid/web spitter population

stage 2 is nightmare fuel if the ambience swarm spawns on you

just out of no where the entire wall is now orange

stage 3 is pretty chill tbh

[burnt sandal]

they'll be pinned back once the summer event is over

[grand schooner]

Ah I see

[nova vortex]

i found a nice way to fight this, make ur own party xD

[tame geode]

How's the nitra in this weeks DD?

[mellow cradle]

DD I don't remember

but EDD has a lot

we had 400 at one point, and we didn't even have a scout

[rose shore]

the dd is eaaassyyy

you literally have enough nitra from the 1st level to last the rest of the dd

and the 1st level is perfect for getting the 120s achievement since it's so layered and big

and no gravity issues since Lee gravity and jetboots

[tame geode]

Yeah just played it. Besides my own stupidity making things harder than it has to be it was a breeze

[dawn otter]

who wants to do a deep dive with me

I dont have any friends right now

[novel sentinel]

500

Don't ask me why... I see nitra, I go mine

[tame geode]

Didnt even need to mine most of the nitra for my run
Lootbugs be plenty

[winter veldt]

DRG discord trying not to complain about this week's EDD

[cursive escarp]

the edd aint even that bad this week tbh

[boreal sentinel]

its in fungus bogs so its automatically good

[cloud tide]

What the heck is this EDD stage 2

4 barrage infectors and a scalebramble

[fringe kestrel]

jet boots!

and low gravity

OP

EDD stage 3 is ass

haunted caves, dreads and small caves

[orchid hemlock]

The ghost claims another 😔

[fringe kestrel]

My tip, there is a cave that has a passage under it, that goes right around it

easy to rotate

You can either fight there, or let one Dwarf bait the ghost, while others do the dreads

Dreads can be easily done at spawn, as long Ghost isn't near

[somber hamlet]

On PlayStation and I did the deep dive but got my ass kicked by the Deep Dive Elite

There was so much love and spite put into both of them it's truly beautiful

I don't think my lead storm is the best use for that and my neuro toxic Auto cannon wasn't doing the best in the deep dive. Don't have any over clocks for my missle launcher but I think it's the best bet

[rich quiver]

duck and cover is giving me some kind of disease

[winter veldt]

Mactera syndrome

[golden radish]

Fr.

[rich quiver]

I drill myself back to the surface after soloing that deep dive as driller

100% gonna need to visit the medbay

[worthy grail]

2 duck and covers….

By Karl, so many septic spreaders….

We even got a dreadnaught swarm in stage 1

After all that…my WiFi went out in the end and disconnected my teammates

Getting to the drop pod without them just didn’t feel right

[rich quiver]

i had only mactera swarms on the last stage, so much so i had to do a double take to make sure it wasnt a modifier

and 2 duck and covers especially on the liquid morkite part

eww

[novel epoch]

that's just duck and cover part 3

[rich quiver]

whatever we want to call it it made me take a shower and call in sick to work

[obsidian moss]

do pool toys spawn in deeper dives?

[eager atlas]

no

deep dives only have main objectives, no extra stuff, though pumpkins do show up during halloween

[lyric onyx]

oops all cave leeches

[terse wind]

note to self: do not attempt to solo this weeks deep dive as anything other than a scout, you'll just be left in a hole dodging for 20 minutes

[rose shore]

lol, truueeee, scouts the way

[terse wind]

for some reason

i thought id load in as gunner

[obsidian moss]

thanks!

[terse wind]

ended up in a place that needed a zipline to get out or low grav jumps up a cliff while getting prefired by 3 spreaders

promptly got shot in the back by a fourth spreader as i tried to dig out

then a swarm hit

[rose shore]

technically the 1st level should be doable with any class since there is a jetboots crate...

but the second level requires a driller or a scout

3rd level is easy too

the edd though... gonna try it solo

[fresh robin]

I got very reckless with the ghost bulk on stage 3

but I will say this EDD was a little fun, got to try out plasma burster missles

I'm not used to plasma burster missles, tracking it not easy for me

[novel epoch]

jet boots + low grav is so fun

[rose shore]

Thank god the edd second stage has jetboots, its impossible as a scout to do salvage

[eager atlas]

grenades

aggresive venting

[winter veldt]

Already tried 3 times today

This EDD is fun cause is challenging

Will try again tomorrow

[novel epoch]

oh wait so is the jet boot crate also predetermined for the dives?

[winter veldt]

Yes

[novel epoch]

cool cool

so it looks like both dd and edd have the jet boot low grav combo haha
haven't played edd yet since i'm busy but i completed the dd yesterday

[winter veldt]

Dd was fun and easy

Edd so far is fun but very hard

[rose shore]

dont have aggressive venting plus i need m1000 with SCC for the bosses, plus i have pheremones for that but cant do much if 2 oppressors are trying to move in that small area??

[eager atlas]

oppressors still follow pheromones

[rose shore]

tip, in the 3rd edd level, each room has a tentecle, a barrage infector and a brood nexus

[rose shore]

they do but they follow me into that tiny circle while bieng harrassed by everything else (sry misread)

[peak knoll]

Yo,I'm tryna run my first deep dive, any tips?

[rose shore]

have a driller in your team, the pipes will be difficult to navigate through the map. keep moving in the missions with duck and cover.

[peak knoll]

I'm gonna keep it 100, I've never done duck n cover,or haunted caves

My biggest issue is I can't find anyone and I ain't doing this solo XD

[rose shore]

haunted cave is for the edd, don't go for the edd unless your somewhat experienced with haz 5

[rose shore]

scout solo is quite possible, the grapple makes duck and cover a lot more manageable

[peak knoll]

I've been playing lvl 4 haz,gotta unlock 5 but didn't bother yet

[rose shore]

but most helpful member for new players driller will be most useful

[peak knoll]

I've got an engineer

I put a request in LFG but I'm PS5 so

[rose shore]

then I'd suggest stay away from the edd until then. unless your a gaming god

[peak knoll]

I'm good, but ain't no god XD

Tho when I think difficulty I think,helldiver's super dive and dark souls and I've done both

[rose shore]

an engineer can take care of the pipes just as a driller can, it'll work. taking the lok rifle with the breach cutter will work great. what are you running as

[peak knoll]

Currently shotgun and grenade launcher

[rose shore]

it is a difficulty of level generation not just tougher enemies. it's made to pull yer hair unless you know the ins and outs of the game

[peak knoll]

The plasma cutter thing seemed good vs big boys tho

I'll probably wait until I've got a group honestly

[rose shore]

get something other than the shotgun, its generally accepted as the worst primary for the engi. and the pgl won't help much against large swarms of ranged enemies

unless you dont have another primary.... i dunno what to do in that situation XD

[peak knoll]

I have all 3

I don't have the 3rd special weapon tho

[rose shore]

perfect, the lok rifle and breach cutter will do nicely, most enemies in the dd will be long range targets, so the shotgun will suffer greatly. and will he spread apart Making the pgl weak too

[humble meadow]

What's this week's deep dive missions? (Or is there a site that has 'em)

[peak knoll]

That's fair

[rose shore]

thats very good too once you get it

[mellow cradle]

pins in this channel

[peak knoll]

I've already upgraded the lok fully

[rose shore]

Perfect! take that! have the long range mod though

[peak knoll]

I do have it on

Guess now I wait for people lol

[rose shore]

dance at the beach XD

do you have any over clocks

[peak knoll]

None

[half zenith]

whats the best gear mod build for breach cutter with Roll Control overclock?

[sinful slate]

Hey everyone, how much elite deep dive is harder than normal one?

[mellow cradle]

preferably you want to be acquanted with haz 5 to clear it comfortably

or you can get carried

[sinful slate]

Okay thank you

[sharp canyon]

Magazine size, breach cutter size, instant deploy, stun, and plasma trail.

[half zenith]

Thank you

[gentle hinge]

Finished my first EDD

Man the dreadnought + horror was nuts.

We literally built an arena in the starting area with zip lines to kite them around

[nova vortex]

whats EDD

oh elit deep dive

nvm xd

i tried once, but the dood who carrying me maybe disconnected and immediately annihilated HAHAHAH

[cursive fog]

I think that was my first edd I carried. Had two level 30~s and a level 100

[hidden meteor]

I’ve done several EDDs just fine and I haven’t hit 100 yet.

[cursive fog]

they went down 30+ times. I was the last one up several times and managed to save the run

[drowsy solstice]

lord those deep dives

back to back duck and covers

and a haunted cave on stage 3

I will not be drinking method acting tonight thats for certain

[gentle hinge]

Haunted cave is insane

Me and the randos basically built an arena for the final dread.

With like 10 ziplines just to escape the horror.

[winter veldt]

4 tries

But finally got it

[cunning cedar]

hate low grav with every goddamn scout bone in my body

[limpid canyon]

I thought nothing could be worse than Low Grav + 2 Duck and Covers in a row in Hollow Bough but EDD proved me wrong, jesus christ that is bad

[fringe terrace]

I'm sorry but can we delete haunted cave modifier already? who tf actually thinks that this is fun

[cunning cedar]

your pfp is my reaction to you telling me that theres a second duck n cover mission

[limpid canyon]

good luck, miner

[cunning cedar]

brought phero bolts and nades bc i dont feel like trying and get cucked thanks to dnc

🫡

[limpid canyon]

Low Grav is the most boring shit ever I swear, I usually don't even mind DnC but those two combined is just a s s

[cunning cedar]

esp w jet boots 😭

hold space for .1s too long and youre in the air for an additional 3s

[fringe terrace]

or at least put it in the first mission in a dd so i can altf4 the hell out of there and my team can remake with minimal time lost

[regal venture]

Me

[cunning cedar]

this but duck n cover

[sinful slate]

Low Gravity is great, at least no more fall damage insta deaths.

[fresh robin]

I played Engi this normal deep dive
I must say, I got more kills than the entire team combined hahahahas

Used ECR and VIR

[crimson iris]

EDD this week was fun

[elder pecan]

i actually enjoy it as a scout main

[crimson iris]

I played sludge neuro wave cooker diller. it did some heavy lifting

[cunning cedar]

i dont like that it makes you hang in the air so long

like i just wanna shoot up over the edge of a cliff and keep running but lowgrav makes me float for a couple secs and thats annoying for me

[elder pecan]

i just use my hook to get down and it charges so fast

[vestal sapphire]

Its not too hard to play around, just use short bursts with the hook instead of full sends

[lime meteor]

sounds like an overcharged winch problem

[rose shore]

same it's fun

[rose shore]

I've never tried that mod tbh...

[edgy tartan]

That's the one that makes you go faster, right?

Fun times

[lime hollow]

DD this week was super fun, holy crap. Low grav pipeline jumps on Duck and Cover with a pocket full of HE grenades is gaming

took me back to Tribes 2

nothing better than cleaning up a Spitter spawn or Mactera swarm with a perfectly cooked grenade

[lunar linden]

Lost at last EDD stage cause my useless russian teammates cant survive one (1) swarm without dying 3 times each

i dont feel like replaying 1 hour of EDD now

[rose shore]

"That's why you always go solo!" a solo guy somewhere

[summer forge]

to my team of bronze stars without gunner on this edd
well done, thank you for following my orders xd

[novel sentinel]

Who needs cosmetics anyway?

[winter veldt]

I tried 4 times, 1 hr each, don't give up

[drowsy solstice]

fucking hell that EDD

Bad scouts, general greenbeard behavior, and fuck that 3rd stage

we barely survived

DD next

low grav duck and cover

time for pain

[gentle hinge]

3rd stage, you need an arena.

To kite the horror.

[lime hollow]

my squad just fought both dreds in the starting room. Business as usual. Don't forget the gunner shield can move the horror out of the way too if you need to get by it in a tight space

maxxing out the radius on the shield generator can be pretty clutch if you're not comfortable in haunted caves

[wraith shard]

Playing DD for the first time, on 2nd mission rn

[quiet wyvern]

i just completed both or em' the regular yesterday, then the elite today

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[drowsy solstice]

Deep Dive was a ton of fun

duck and cover Deep Scan was pretty easy tbh

everything on the descent was ez to kill

[wraith shard]

are the elite deep dives worth the time

[eager atlas]

I don't see why not

[fresh robin]

Only thing thats keeping me playing the game is the deep dives at this point
They're still quite fun

[fallow jetty]

hi, is there anyone from Indonesia?

[elfin cargo]

another set of matrix cores is pretty worth it imo

[wraith shard]

Any tips for deep dives please?

[tiny marten]

stick to just farming nitra, ignore gold or other type of materials, spend nitra wisely cause they stay with you for the entirety of the game, check this channels pinned messages to know ahead of time all the missions you're gonna face and prepare an all around build for it and ig that's much pretty much it

[wraith shard]

I already beat this dd, but I still want some tips, thank you

[vague lantern]

i lost two times because of god awful teammates and when i went to solo it, the one player scaled dreadnought was almost AS SLOW as the ghost!

I COULDN'T HIT ITS BACKSIDE AND LOST ALL MY REVIVES JUST TRYING TO MINE AND SHOOT ITS BUTT

i hate this edd

i feel so bitter and want to quit, but at the same time that bitterness wont let me stop until i've beaten it

[wraith shard]

me asf

ive never won an EDD without going solo and I can do the normal ones faster for the sole reason there's no randys to call molly

[tiny marten]

solo is boring

[median haven]

@vague lantern @wraith shard sounds like y'all need a decent teammate

[vague lantern]

now a fourth attempt has gone awry

because of THE GHOST

my teammate was a veteran scout too ;-;

[eager atlas]

I did solo, but since I knew what was up, I just brought the breach cutter

[vague lantern]

they ahd the ghost and i had the dread, somehow they died and then as i was circling the dreadnought... bam, ghost

[eager atlas]

ghost and angle don't matter when you deal damage from all sides

[vague lantern]

because i think the ghost got them somehow

[eager atlas]

the last mission was the fastest one

[vague lantern]

i did too but i have limited ammo on that and i cant even stay in one place for 15 seconds

god how is this so hard for me

[eager atlas]

you have like 20 shots if you build for it, and you should have 400-500 nitra by that point

[vague lantern]

i cant use those resupplies easily

ghost

i really just need to try again with a full team and hope i dont just get greenbeards again

[eager atlas]

keep moving, call more resupplies, that's the point of having 5 resupplies worth of nitra

good luck

[vague lantern]

i cant goddamn use the resupplies ;-;

i'll try again tommorrow...

with a full team

seriously the ghost has like zero counterplay on a map as horrendously cramped as the third stage

[tiny marten]

as solo ig you have to be constantly on the run

[vague lantern]

at this point i could go on for dozens of minutes about how everything that oculd have gone right did not no matter what i tried

[wraith shard]

All video games are about mobility

[vague lantern]

i tried solo, the glyphid dreadnought was no faster tahn the ghost because of its war cries and slow tembling stomp

mobility is key

i agree

the glyphid dreadnought's mobility was exactly enough that i couldnt get behind it

[tiny marten]

or you can win them with the power of friendship

[vague lantern]

because of

[vague lantern]

i wish...

[tiny marten]

i actually just joined a random lobby of 3 (4 including me) and we just did it

[vague lantern]

both times i tried to get a full team nobody joined in the fourth slot

and also both times we lost due to greenbeardness

[tiny marten]

i joined after my night out at around 2am my time halfway drunk and we finished it in around an hour and a few mins

i carried 2nd stage cause they were playing far too reckless but they adapted and became more cautious at the last stage

[winter veldt]

I'm starting to think I carry my teammates on EDDs

It never takes me more than 5 tries with randos

I don't mind losing tho, either you win or lose you are still playing a fun game

[fringe kestrel]

💀

I was lucky enough to get it done in first try

[winter veldt]

I mean some teams still suck

[fringe kestrel]

Which class are you playing?

To carry EDD it's always to play the class that can carry based on objectives.
Best carries are always Gunner or Driller. Driller isn't good for Dreadnoughts, therefore I would go with Gunner

[rose shore]

same tbh, i like having free things out of my control, going solo is the best option in that scenario

i feel like i end up doing worse when i have teammates

[winter veldt]

I usually play gunner yea

on EDDs

[jolly herald]

Welp

DC'd on last dread on stage 3 EDD

was on final damage phase

[sand juniper]

Fun EDD this week, kiting the unknown horror around the same arena you're using for slaying dreads. Our driller saved us digging underground tunnels as if it was some sort of Pacman game.

[fresh robin]

Next EDD I might use up some AOE this time

[mental island]

how can u carry with driller? genuine question i dont play him

[tiny marten]

build bunkers, navigate inside terrain to get rezes or terraform in general, handle swarmers and medium sized enemies for you AND your team

[tiny dagger]

Driller is good with dreadnoughts fym

He has cryo cannon and sludge

sludge does great damage and cryocannon can freeze dreadnoughts

[rose shore]

he is a general GOAT whenever dealing with swarms too

[exotic belfry]

Driller is generally worse then other classes, Dreads resist fire damage and are immune to on fire, Cryo cannon needs a teammate to follow up, Sludge is AOE so it can't take advantage of Classic Dreads x2 WP, or Hivegaurds x1.5

Driller is the best support class for dreads, pairing with CT, freezing for huge damage, slowing them to a crawl, but can't solo dreads in a team setting without a lot of skill, or specific loadouts that often sacrifice swarm clear.

[rose shore]

he can revive safely most of the time by drilling below the player too

[tiny dagger]

That is true. Although sludge's tradeoff is you can hit the dread from anywhere you'd like, and still does solid damage despite no wps. But the claim that he's not good at all is just wrong imo.

And you still do have axe spam for dreads if you run cryo

I do also feel like that support feature of his can also still "carry" the team

[exotic belfry]

Carry in this context usually means doing the mission yourself, while your team struggles, and in that sense driller is very bad at dreads, especially on DD where you can't always have a full dread loadout.

[tiny dagger]

I would argue that slowing the dread means it can't catch up to your team and insta kill them. and slowing it/freezing it also means less time and ammo wasted

in a sense without you they could have failed

But it does make sense if you apply that terminology

[exotic belfry]

Yeah driller is extremely good supporting the team with dreads, but lacks the damage pool and DPS to deal with Dreads by themselves quickly or efficiently without a very specialized loadout.

[eager atlas]

if your teammates are bad bad, chances are freezing a dread is just a waste since they won't capitalize on it

[fringe kestrel]

Like other said already, Driller is a strong support to Kill dreads, but he can't carry alone. Flames slows, sludge melts armor more than it does damage and freeze is perfect to increase damage that the Dread will received while he is frozen.
Gunner can literally Kill any Dread on his own. Position yourself in a large cave, put up Ziplines that you can use to jump between them and you're mostly good to go. Then smart usage of the Shield of course and minigun.
Even Engineer is better at Killing Dreads as Driller, as long you take Hyper Propellant. But you won't be able to carry, if your team just keep dying.
And this is exactly the definition of carrying, basically finishing the struggling part of mission of your own.

[fringe kestrel]

Driller is the strongest character to deal with swarms. His only weakness are Dreadnoughts.
His AOE abilities just melt swarm of enemies and if you're in a rough spot, you can always dig a tunnel and escape to another cave. He is also very safe while digging, because all his primary weapons are AOE weapons with slow down effects.
After Scout Driller has the most mobility, since you can dig a tunnel everywhere in any direction, he has no problems to go up or down, relatively fast.

[honest bobcat]

...scout driller?

[rose shore]

after the scout I'm assuming he meant

[honest bobcat]

Oh yeah that makes more sense

[eager atlas]

new class: scout driller, ready to grapple to you and C4 you

[jolly herald]

Scriller isnt real, it can't hurt you

scriller:

[rocky quest]

Any cave leeches to be aware of this week?

[jolly herald]

I got yoinked through the wall by a nasty one at the bottom of the cave on stage 3 by a nitra patch and dread egg

[rocky quest]

Alright, noted, so just on stage 3 of the EDD?

[fresh robin]

what do you think is the most effective 4 man one class team for an EDD?

[rocky quest]

It will vary from dive to dive, but I think gunner is a pretty safe bet.

Sometimes it will be driller.

[fickle nova]

I think engi's toolkit synergises with each other.
Turret whip any of the 8 sentries.
I think em discharge and other stubby OCs can work with other engineers equipment.
The shard diffractor oc that blows up plats
Rj250 on 1 engi to cosplay as scout

[rocky quest]

Yes but, counterpoint, 4 shields.

And four gunner primaries.

[fickle nova]

powerful but boring

imagine 8 sentries doing em discharge along with turret arc b/w them

[tiny dagger]

You're using a specialized build on engi to take care of dreads. Driller also needs a specialized build. Keep it at base weapons, alright?

[mystic horizon]

any enemy crawling their way towards the engies when all 8 sentries start glowing green before atomizing them

[cerulean trellis]

anyone here who can help me with the elite deep dive?

[random rampart]

Best to ask in #lfg-steam or #lfg-modded-steam

Bigger chances there

[fickle nova]

I have to disagree. Driller is very good at drednaughts. As good as the other dwarves . Driller can easily output damage from infront of the dreads compared to other classes. In haz 5 4 team missions its almost impossible to ringa rosie around the dreadnaught without some slow which makes the ability to damage from the front even more important. Driller can make the dreadnaught chase you while dealing dmg to it as well. If u take tuned cooler to dreadnaught mission then you become a support driller who can just freeze mobs. On the other hand builds using icestorm can do good dmg and freeze when needed. icespear does very good dmg too .Sludge blasts gives u single target dmg, slows the bosses to a crawl and melts armour.

Sitting on a zipline and letting other dwarves take all the aggro isnt what i would call carrying the mission.

[regal harness]

stage 2 of edd also has a few in some small corridors iirc

[timber leaf]

Anyone down for a Deep Dive?

[fresh robin]

I remember playing as Engineer on a 3 scout team

man a lot of them ran out of ammo quickly

I had to take on most of the enemies myself

[sinful slate]

If you aren’t spamming aim shot on m1000 it’s hard to run out of ammo on scout

[jolly herald]

? some of scout OCs have terrible ammo economy

if you just spam hipfire

[cedar basalt]

guys wtf with deep dive? i had 3 bosses on first stage,4 bosses on second stage and 1 boss at third stage

[tiny marten]

what do you consider bosses?

[eager atlas]

if you mean dreadnoughts then you were almost certainly in a modded lobby

[hushed heath]

what's the EDD missions

or where can i find that info

[tiny marten]

check pinned messages on this channel

[silent spruce]

Stage 3 gave some insane anxiety to me

fighting dreads while scaping an exploder ghost is not fun

[hushed heath]

grats

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[eager atlas]

I can't even read what that's supposed to be

[thorny gull]

bulks maybe?

They can spawn like that

[eager atlas]

oh, bulks could be it, that'd be some rng but possible

[thorny gull]

I remember having 3 bulks and 1 crassus in a row once

Good times

[civic fjord]

I'm sooo enjoying myself

Uh... curiosity. It doesn't say anything about upgrading characters? I'm 30 hours in

[thorny gull]

Did you get level 25 on any character?

[civic fjord]

I mean, it says to upgrade but doesn't say how. Or at least I can't find it....ohhhhhh. LV 25 to level up? Ok ok. I was confused because I was trying to upgrade all the perks and my equipment thinking I could upgrade. I'm about LV+20 something with Gunner over the past 30H played.

Almost there

Thx

[thorny gull]

yeah, you need level 25 to promote

[civic fjord]

Got it, yea I was a bit confused. Thanks for the clarification

[exotic belfry]

Here's the wiki page for promotion, which is how you "upgrade" classes https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Promotion

[civic fjord]

Also. Does anyone use mod io for DRG Mods? Steam connect?

I was in the DRG chat btw, idk how I ended up in the deep-dive discussion 🤔

[burnt sandal]

mod.io, through the ingame modding tab

pinned messages for details and FAQ in #modded-drg-chat

[exotic belfry]

DRG uses Mod.io here's a tutorial by Sniss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR4A9B8pw_o

[civic fjord]

Oh ok. It's not that, also the mod tab just showed up randomly recently on tabs so I was like "Oh mods??? Yeeeeaaa?

Mod io for DRG are all greyed out on the download button but every other game works completely fine, something's broke.

[burnt sandal]

are you launching in safe mode ?

[civic fjord]

No I'm talking about the website. Mod io. Not launching the game

Can't even download the mods to install from mod io. DRG is the only one

[languid sable]

JUST GOT BACK INTO DRG WHERE ALL MY PROGRESS

[eager atlas]

check the saves tab in the settings maybe

[languid sable]

Legend

Thanks holmes

[raven carbon]

You're eligible for a promotion assignment at level 25 then you can buy the promotion after completing it

Deep rock makes employees pay to get promoted

Yes

[mystic horizon]

messed around with last week's EDD and found out steeve can just keep the horror busy infinitely even after death

kinda odd bug

apparently unknown horror and bulk dets dont attack steeve and after he dies they just lose interest in dwarves entirely

[late rose]

interesting, that woulda been helpful to know last night lol

[mystic horizon]

guess he just convinced them that dwarves dont mean any harm

[late rose]

the horror spawned like, RIGHT behind the drop pod as we came in, we managed to get away and explore a bit, the driller found one of the cocoons, we tried not to start the fight but there were two trijaws shooting at me and I guess either a few stray shots from me or my power attack broke the coccoon and spawned the (thankfully) regular dread

we survived for a while but it quickly became a chain of one or more being down, revived, shortly go down again because the horror was also in the room

[mystic horizon]

yikes

[late rose]

yeah it was my bad

[mystic horizon]

my team had a pretty odd stage 3 with the horror spawning across hoxxes or something

we could hear him but we could not find him at all nor hear him digging to us

until i had the misfortune of zipping around the corner and being met with his warm hug

then during the hiveguard fight steeve just had a talk with him and a random bulk detonator

[late rose]

im not positive but i FEEL like shooting the horror kinda makes it focus on you/head towards you for a bit?

ive only done a couple horror warnings before

[mystic horizon]

i dont believe so cause i shot a whole mag of my zhukovs into it but it wasn't interested

his aggro mechanics im not entirely sure how it works but when a friend of mine pinged him he switched aggro so make of that what you will

[late rose]

shruggy

still proud of the last time I faced one my group and I managed to get a core stone done with it in the (thankfully large) room

[mellow cradle]

it tends to be agrroed to whoever is closest to it

and if you edge his hellfire radius, he is unlikely to change targets

[mystic horizon]

odd

he was very close to me yet when my friend (rather far away) pinged him

he just switched aggro entirely

then when i went to get out of the death corner i was in he switched back

[mellow cradle]

I never saw it react to pings

[mystic horizon]

it wasn't my friend either

sometimes when i pinged it

it started going after me

so shrug

[late rose]

the simple answer is

we don't know how it works

because its unknown

[sand juniper]

This is so true lmao. The fucker knows when someone's trying to kite it away.

[late rose]

very happy that of the 3 elite deep dives ive done, I finished the first and at least got the the 3rd stage of the other 2

[fresh robin]

oh boi, what shall this next deep dive be

[winter veldt]

omg please be a good elite deep dive

I don't like the ones that feel like I'm just playing haz 5 :(

[edgy tartan]

Isn't it supposed to be haz 5 - on the final mission anyway?

[winter veldt]

haz5+ but ye

some haz5 missions are very easy regardless of being haz5

I don't like easy EDDs that much

[fresh robin]

double industrial sabotage with escort duty rival presence as 2nd stage :3

[winter veldt]

fuck yeah

[smoky hawk]

2nd stage is haz 5, 3rd stage is 5.5

[smoky hawk]

(and haunted cave)

[cold kindle]

But...Rival presence can't appear on escort duty.That's part of the joke?

[smoky hawk]

wait it really cant?

[mellow cradle]

indeed

turret controller spawning, and dotty being able to run over it wouldn't mesh well I presume

and driving into a room full of bursters, repulsors, and snipers wouldn't be very fun either

[vestal sapphire]

Seasonal/machine events seem to spawn fine, it could be done

[mellow cradle]

hmmm, true
maybe it's more the second point

[fresh ivy]

Duck and cover am I right

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[hushed sequoia]

it was possible during season 2 experimental and mostly unplayable

like entering a refuel stop and there's 3 korloks

effectively

[jolly herald]

anyone get a bulk spawn on stage 3 of EDD?

[fresh robin]

please let this be a fun EDD

[drifting tinsel]

every EDD is fun if your group is unhinged enough

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[jolly herald]

you dont enjoy kiting the horror through tight caves while trying to shoot the back of the hiveguard while she rotates and fires aoe bombs at you??

[fresh robin]

I enjoy chat, but I want something more fun. Just some missions that forve me to fight a lot of bugs
An AOE fire build I really wanna try out (Necro Thermal Catalyst)

[jolly herald]

haz5+ more bugs

[tiny marten]

let's see what are we gonna get

[eager atlas]

breach cutter knows no backs

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[tiny marten]

why dont new dd/edds get posted right away?

[ivory marten]

People need to find out what they are first.

[drifting tinsel]

give me like three minutes i promise

Weekly Deep Dives information for 2024 August 15 to 2024 August 22 (Week 256)
Deep Dives will reset <t:1724324400:f>

DEEP DIVE
Region: Glacial Strata | Code Name: Leaf Lover's Territory
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 150 Morkite | No Mutator
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Classic) + 2 Resonance Crystals | Rival Presence
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + Black Box | Exploder Infestation

ELITE DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Deadman's Den
Stage 1: 200 Morkite + Liquid Morkite Well | Ebonite Outbreak
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + Black Box | Exploder Infestation
Stage 3: 10 Aquarqs + Black Box | Duck and Cover

Here's your reminder that if you had Deep Rock Galactic open while the weekly assignments and dives refreshed, you'll need to restart the game to access new weeklies. Your game will still be stuck in last week's rotations otherwise!
If you're new to the Discord, please remember to drop by #welcome-and-rules and grab a platform role by reacting to a message. Thanks -- Rock and Stone!

[smoky hawk]

EDDs code name?

[ivory marten]

There it is.

[drifting tinsel]

oops

[silent prism]

Why do Dives repeat Stage 1 and Stage 3 primary objectives just with different numbers?

[ivory marten]

Hwo do you do it this fast?

[drifting tinsel]

i forgor 💀 one second

[ivory marten]

Deadman's Den.

Yeah with two fucking black boxes, one of them being Duck and Cover...

[drifting tinsel]

modding, mostly (；・∀・)

[smoky hawk]

lol

[novel shale]

ebonite outbreak

[fresh robin]

Hmmm another one of these EDDs

[smoky hawk]

ebonite outbreak feels like a positive anomly not warning for me

[fresh robin]

Time to try out Necro Thermal Catalyst

[novel shale]

low o2 lite
stick next to molly on her sunday stroll or cry

[smoky hawk]

fax

EDD with shield destruption 💀

[tiny marten]

= dmg reduction

[jolly herald]

Stage 3 actually looks rough this time

10 quarqs + black box duck and cover

[tiny marten]

idd, open maps with duck and cover are kinda hard

[jolly herald]

its all random

[wraith shard]

This EDD was relatively easy, nothing that is particularly problematic

[jolly herald]

how was stage 3 cave gen for black box

[wraith shard]

It is located in a location where you can see and kill the spitters very quickly

ECR especially feels really nice against duck and cover since the projectile bugs have negative HP

Last EDD was considerably more stressful than this one lol

[jolly herald]

yeah ECR always goes crazy in duck and cover

yeah i mean EDD last stage was particularly grief

[wraith shard]

Indeed haha

Engi bros, we are winning like always

[jolly herald]

[obsidian moss]

"new dives in 0:-01:-03:-01" lmao what

[eager atlas]

try doing it during a doretta mission

the constant harassment on doretta and god knows where the mule is

[novel epoch]

"leaf lover's territory"
dang right it is there are rivals in this cave

[ancient grove]

this week's EDD wasn't too bad

3rd stage was a little hectic with the acid spitters everywhere but other than that it wasn't too difficult

helped that i had 3 epic dwarves with me

[steel jasper]

Just got a random dreadnought spawn on the first EDD level

[winter veldt]

oh

I got scared for a second

I thought the EDD was going to be too easy

then I saw duck and cover

not so bad but at least entertaining

[sinful slate]

Why people hate duck and cover? Ranged enemies are better because their projectile has certain speed and hitboxes and you can evade it. Regular enemies have weird attack patterns/ range/ hitboxes and most of the time it’s hard to evade it

[median agate]

it's the higher number of projectiles at any point in time while you still have to deal with basic mobs

and not everyone uses dash ig

[lyric zenith]

also they can come from a lot of different directions at once, but it can be easily handled by the driller digging a bunker to run into during swarms

most will fly into the chokepoint to get to you, and after you kill the majority you can head out and finish off the lingering mainly septic spreaders and maybe an acid spitter or two

[jolly herald]

Easy to play around but more punishing if you don't

Spoiler alert: most don't

Hence the hate

[cursive escarp]

hm

edd this week doesnt look that bad at all

[cursive escarp]

when its usually duck and cover we just have a driller dig a bunch of tunnels lmao

[twilit saddle]

why are we in leaf lovers territory for the DD?

[cursive escarp]

funny part is we dont even use them that often its more of for our friend whos new and doesnt really know how to play around it😭

[cursive escarp]

ok it seems a lot of randoms this week struggle with the black box objective

[granite flicker]

Just make sure to rush bbox on third stage before extraction waves come in

[mystic horizon]

honestly this week’s EDD was a walk in the park tbh

stage 3 was sort of annoying with the aquarq spawns but special powder made getting them up to the minehead pretty trivial and the black box basically spawned in a good hold spot (for me atleast idk if it always spawns there)

stage 2’s black box also spawned in a good hold spot

and stage 1 was just not too hard besides ebonites being a minor inconvenience every now and then during swarms

the only time i felt genuinely scared was when during stage 3 i thought i was zipping to one septic spreader and saw 4 of its projectiles fired at me at once

[cursive escarp]

the fucking septic spreaders were kicking my ass during stage 3

[mystic horizon]

they were so abnormally abundant in my run that i was basically working overtime as scout

[cursive escarp]

edd took an hour cause me and other dude were doing it with a greenbeard😭

[mystic horizon]

yikes

[cursive escarp]

i mean we still completed it and it was his first edd so its a win i think

we didnt rlly mind it tbh

[mystic horizon]

not the greatest first experience for a green beard

[cursive escarp]

true

[mystic horizon]

having to deal with frequent swarms + annoying aquarq spawns + duck and cover

im just happy special powder was good in both deep dives this week, felt incredible flying around the map and taking down high priority targets for my team

[cursive escarp]

i was on driller😭

insane amount of bunkering man holy

[mystic horizon]

my driller was struggling hard on stage 3

he didnt bring wave cooker so he was basically regulated to praying the epc tap fire could kill the spitters reliably

gunner was basically working overtime shielding the engie and driller while i was constantly having to move around getting aquarqs up and killing septic spreaders and goo bombers

mfw i look away from the wall for 2 seconds and its suddenly orange now

[cursive escarp]

i hate duck and cover just because septic spreaders exist

shit was constantly downing the greenbeard😭

[mystic horizon]

idek why they gave the septic spreader’s projectile player tracking

[cursive escarp]

i mean thankfully we did have a scout for aquarqs

but no gunner at all

[mystic horizon]

no gunner on stage 3 is a nightmare

god save you during swarms

[cursive escarp]

dude idek how we survived it😭😭

[mystic horizon]

entire ceiling is just purple and orange

i only like hated septics during stage 3 because they came in like bulks

every ambient swarm or announced swarm there was minimum 3

[cursive escarp]

DUDE THIS WAS THE WORST PART

[silent spruce]

Good to know that this is actually a thing lol

[mystic horizon]

that and for some reason they tap into 9 generations of speed when they wish to relocate

[silent spruce]

I'm going to do this next time i've to play a horror mission

[mystic horizon]

i was so confused lol

the horror just sat still next to steeve the entire two dread fights

even if we came close he didnt change aggro

[silent spruce]

Also, Steeve is awesome for tanking aliens anyway

[mystic horizon]

i think the horror’s AI detects steeve as an enemy but conflicts with how it was coded to attack

cause they just had a staring contest lol

then a random bulk det came and joined the two

[silent spruce]

The bulk also didn't do anything?

[mystic horizon]

yeah

they were just chilling

[silent spruce]

wow

[mystic horizon]

until the bulk died

even then it just

broke the horror

[silent spruce]

He just died?

[mystic horizon]

he just stopped moving

stood still and just made loud sounds the entire remaining part of the stage

shame steeve cant break the dreadnought AI

[silent spruce]

That would be great to know earlier. Had an anxiety attack fighting dreads while running away from the horror.

The horror is so f.up in some situations

[mystic horizon]

its most stressful to deal with when you forget its there tbh

only times i died to it was when i entirely forgot it was there

[silent spruce]

Exactly. Since the horror has the ability to one-tap you, and on the last stage, makes things more stressful.

Also, there are times when he appears out of nowhere

[tiny marten]

i was half drunk when doing it and i never forgot about the horror

[mystic horizon]

on my run he was playing hide and seek with my entire team

could hear him but could not find him

[tiny marten]

i think i was convinced im not getting outta there unless i win the round

[mystic horizon]

until i zipped around the corner and was met with a point blank one shot slam from him

[silent spruce]

he glitches a lot tbh

[silent spruce]

lol

[mystic horizon]

after that run where he jumpscared me like twice during the dread fight before steeve kept him occupied

wait that kinda steps into modding talk might get warned

[silent spruce]

That's also very good to know lol. I'm such a noob.

[silent spruce]

Really?

[mystic horizon]

yeah

they seem pretty strict on proper channel usage

last time i mentioned a mod in drg chat i got warned pretty quickly so

[silent spruce]

I thought it would be a pretty common topic on the server, since mods are accepted in the game? lol

[mystic horizon]

yeah but theres specific channels for discussing them

[silent spruce]

Oh, ok

[burnt sandal]

we are pretty strict because of a demographic of people knowing about it and still constantly choosing to ignore it

and since being nice doesn't seem to work out, sadly we have to enforce those things more.

[mystic horizon]

understandable

[silent spruce]

Sir, yes sir.

[rose shore]

FRICK

THIS

WEEKS

EDD

2 BLACK BOXES???

i went in blind, and won as a solo scout... but damn that was unnecessarily hard

duck and cover and exploder infestation with black box seriosly

I just added a resupply nearby, started it and kept pheromone grenade every 10-15 sec while hiding behind the resupply and PRAYED TO DEAR GOD

and resupplied whenever my nades finished

the 3rd edd map is so open ended and 5 floors, how can anyone get through without driller or bosco???

not like ziplines can work while being showered in acip web and goo

[mortal night]

I need help completing this weeks elite deep dive on Xbox I can’t get past stage 2

[rose shore]

ahh i'd join but im on steam...

[mortal night]

Should be fine I’ve tried it 5 times today and keep failing

Gamer tag is Timberwolf

[rose shore]

but my tip is for the 2nd edd is to use the coral and a resupply to create jumping space where you can evade the swarming bugs, the box also includes a ledge as a 3rd jumping spot within the circle. have a driller and/or a sout with pheremones to buy time in the small space.

what class your runnning?

And in the 3rd stage, the black box is atthe highest point across the chasamn next to a nitra vein, and watch the pitfalls, they are a lot of them in the 3rd level

and duck & cover is no fun

[mortal night]

Engy or gunner

[rose shore]

id take gunner, he can make black box easier to secure, have a mobility friend as a scout or a driller to go with you

[mortal night]

Ok just add me and I’ll invite you or I can join you

[rose shore]

sorry just realised its 4 am at my place i Need to stop and get some sleep

Good luck in the edd!

[mortal night]

That’s fine

[vague lantern]

this week's edd was scary

not too hard, maybe 7/10 on the scale of edd's, but definitely for the faint of heart

the first black box was straight up in a poor defensive position and the second one was duck and cover

at least our second one was in a tucked-away corner high up top in the map so we had fewer angles to worry about

[mystic horizon]

idk tbh i felt both were in pretty good defensive spots

atleast for my team that was the case

we had 0 issue holding the black box

or is it an rng spawn for the black boxes

[lime hollow]

First area I could see being pretty bad without any kind of terraforming if you got a rough exploder spawn or a cringe septic spreader

the coral is awful to fight around if you can't drill it out

[ancient grove]

It's not too bad if you have the right build, the main scary thing is the acid spitters

i think engi's smart gun would do well

[winter veldt]

EDD got it first try in 36 mins

The team was very good

I had ECR, gunner had mortar rounds and driller cryo gun

[fresh robin]

somehow my pc got the BSOD while I was on stage 2 of a deep dive

[tiny marten]

you just make the driller drill a 20m straight line whole towards the black box, c4 it and stay in there afk, all ranged have to come melee to get you in line of sight and it's just easier than without duck and cover

[eager atlas]

but where's the fun

[tiny marten]

i never had these pve urges of handicapping myself to make stuff harder

it is what it is

[eager atlas]

it's not a handicap, it's just regular gameplay

[jolly herald]

I find bunkering insanely boring

[amber venture]

Tbf if people say that, and then complain about difficulty there is both a design problem and a player problem

Like is there an effective strategy yes.
Do people like it no.
Immediate problem.

[burnt sandal]

and I personally never had these urges of cheesing the game and turning it into a snoozefest.
To each their own.

I do think it's cheesy but it's ultimately a possible gameplay so there really isn't anything wrong with it outside of purely personal preferences.

[amber venture]

I never make one intentionally, but if the terrain is bad enough, or the game gives it to me I won’t say no.

Like the 2nd black box on the EDD is honnestly an easy bunker with 1 engie

[fickle nova]

I have no problem with making bunkers if the team is struggling, low on ammo or incase extremely undefendable terrain. However making one when there is no emergency, bunkers are extremely boring

[rose shore]

have a bottle of tequila, sit on your cheese chair and see your drones and turret shred them Ranged ebemies

[burnt sandal]

I'm personally not gonna let people bunker in my lobby if I can avoid it, mostly because it's boring

[amber venture]

I had a sandpit sabo run where hacksy landed in my driller tunnel, and I just kinda said ok, and made bunker, since it was easier

[rose shore]

i personally bunker when i begin feeling overwhelmed, as a ginner you can shield, as a scout you can leave (as engi you die afaik) and as driller you drill away. that and haz 5+ areas with teammates

[burnt sandal]

yeah, I'm fine with emergency tunnels

I'm just not into "let's prep a whole bunker for this black box" thing

[amber venture]

Engie can bunker in the bunker /j

[amber venture]

See some people go the exact opposite toste direction, and decided to die on the most insanely stupid defense Ispot DRG found

Like I don’t know on 2 feet of open land

[rose shore]

a little prep is fine, for example this edd 2nd stage black box i used a resupply and the coral to jump back and forth while freezing then with mines and distracting using the pheromones was a solo scout, same case the the 3rd black box, used a resupply at an angle where most ranged enemies can't attack me from...

is that considered as bunkering too?

[amber venture]

No that is pole dancing

[rose shore]

how? if it's only you as an engi what can you do to give yourself some breathing room? i have a makeshift solution using spinning death with stun...

[amber venture]

It was a joke about Engie digging 2 spots down and placing a platform,to make a hole that a majority of enemies can’t break through

And then you can emergency dig out

If a bunk spawned you were dead anyways

As anyone but driller

[rose shore]

ahhhhhh the Minecraft 1st night experience (in the old days anyway)

[amber venture]

Maybe gunner if they have 2 bursters

[rose shore]

wait that actually works? they won't go through the cheese

[amber venture]

Only dread oppressors bulks and a few others can actually dig

And they only dig if there is no valid pathing

Nem can dig

[rose shore]

besides the big boys, that's a useful escape tooli didn't know about

[tiny marten]

i mean, if is that cheesy and i expect it to be a thing since early stages of the game why they didnt decide to fix it?

[jolly herald]

Why would they fix it? its the sort of emergent gameplay that DRG lends itself well to.
On a personal level i find sitting in a box underground blind firing at the door insanely boring, doesnt mean it should be removed. You're entitled to play the game how you want to

[jolly herald]

This statement is irrelevant tbh
people who find bunkering boring =/= people who complain about difficulty
There will always be a subset of players that want to take the path of least resistance, this doesnt indicate a design problem

some situations can legitimately warrant bunkering - i.e high haz elite threat salvage with absolutely no defensible terrain around it

[idle jacinth]

We moved away from traditional bunkering to plat fortress holds, driller having stun C4 is much better for the team

[jolly herald]

(i am a heavily biased repellent enjoyer)

funneling bugs into a choke and melting them with the breach cutter is peak fun for me

[rose shore]

That is the best look for it, i made a bunker in a haz 5 mission on a mactera plague, and the random i had said hed rather die than go in the bunker, im not used haz 5 unless im a scout (was playing as driller) so ill take the liberty, and he doesn't have to...

[sand juniper]

It's not like bunkering is a game breaker. Perhaps it is at lower haz but otherwise sometimes you're just taking additional risks, the wrong type of bug gets too close and everyone is dead.

[rose shore]

definitely, have a choke point made, and shoot a spinning death, 7-10 secs of free time to focus on high dps or hp enemies

[jolly herald]

It's not a game breaker but it is a fun breaker

[mental rampart]

Was on the 3rd stage of the EDD, doing well

until like 50 acid spitters all spawned at once

[rose shore]

whenever I'm doing duck and cover, I always chant the mantra from Finding Nemo: just keep running, just keep running, just keep running, running, running, what do we do? we just keep running! (p.s replace swimming with running)

[mellow cradle]

*just keep strafing

[mental rampart]

It's quite terrifying to see a huge cavern ceiling completely covered by acid spitters

and the walls too, along with a few underneath you in a ravine you barely avoided falling into

[edgy tartan]

the floor is lava bugs. And the walls and ceiling too.

[winter veldt]

it's great

when you see 100 acid spitters cover the ceiling

lots of bugs to shoot

[modern crown]

the EDD felt a lot easier than the last couple of ones for some reason

we did it with me playing engie and a friend on gunner

both DD and EDD

a lot of black boxes

executioner lok-1 and inferno bc for me, carpet bomber autocannon and brt with probably a clean

[modern crown]

compact mags, not a clean

[cyan oar]

It is easier than last week for sure

[rustic pike]

i got clapped dde stage 3

[mental rampart]

Same

[raven carbon]

Edd was quite easy

Third stage had the potential to be really bad but the partially sheltered black box helped

Otherwise open air black box with duck and cover warning has nightmare potential

[sly matrix]

What would be a good setup for the gunner is this EDD

[eager atlas]

the hardest level is the last one, so whatever can clean the ceiling from the purple and orange madness

[obsidian moss]

HOLY MOLY, I did it somehow... first successful EDD yay

shoutouts to Bosco, the real mvp

I found the second stage the hardest tbh. those exploders are so sneaky... and so many wardens and stingtails x-x was on my last revive there. Third one was ok, just focused on removing any spreader and acid spitter immediately with the laser and that made the rest more manageable.

[neon zinc]

Im sorry but why does a solo EDD get you less performance pass XP than literally most level 3-4 missions

[raven carbon]

I did it with the new minigun overclock and hellfire coilgun

Played with just two players me and scout

So I figured I'd need crowd control so I got coilgun

Good choice in hindsight

[raven carbon]

Shouldn't get you less but fairly similar

Performance points don't have linear relation with xp

[mellow cradle]

coil fear works well for an orange-purple ceiling

[raven carbon]

It falls off beyond a point

[raven carbon]

Yes very useful on stage 3

Also hellfire coilgun in general is great

I tried reatomiser with necro thermal catalyst and while it's fantastic when it works

It's hard to get it right every time

Hellfire does a simple job but every time

[mellow cradle]

ye, but kinda hard to set up on duck and cover, and not really neccesary on exploder infestation

[raven carbon]

Yes

[sly matrix]

Oh thx but tbh I lack OC I only have the mol for coilgun

[raven carbon]

What do you have on minigun

[sly matrix]

Litter more omh and that other OC that makes the rounds recoshy

[icy elk]

Lord the second and third stage of this deep dive was kinda hard lol

Well, it was mostly due to a lack of organisation in my team but still

Especially second stage

BET C shouldn’t be touched imo

[obtuse pagoda]

do deep dives scale with how many players are in the mission ?

[eager atlas]

yes, like regular missions do

[obtuse pagoda]

thx

[frail pecan]

In the wiki it says there are Deeper Dives

is that like modded levels?

[exotic belfry]

Which wiki, the official wiki (wiki.gg), or the abandoned vandalized wiki (fandom)?

[frail pecan]

fandom wiki

[exotic belfry]

There's your answer lol

[smoky hawk]

lol

[novel sentinel]

Admins of fandom wiki ban people who write truthful topics

[meager fable]

I hate this EDD

[gentle hinge]

Indie wiki buddy is so nice to find out if wikis are broken

Also this EDD is probably the easiest in a while

[static lichen]

this edd was interesting

third stage was way easier than i expected

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[drowsy solstice]

@grand sierra bro idk if it was you that got kicked from my DD I am so sorry

my internets been screwy the past few days

[normal mesa]

anybody know if what the DD and EDD difficulties are compared to regular haz levels

maybe it's just this week but both of them felt really easy compared to a normal haz 5 mission

[winter veldt]

Max DD difficulty is haz3.5

Max EDD difficulty is haz5.5

[eager atlas]

DD is 3.5 for the last two stages

[wind arch]

Edd this week was killing me got stuck on stage 2 for 5 diff times

Tbf our gunner each time was subpar but we got it sorted

Found it harder than last weeks lmao

[little halo]

EDD this week:
Stage 1: ezpz
Stage 2: workable, small map so friendly Betsy is just as dangerous as the Exploder

Stage 3: Don't go die off in faraway corners, make engi roof for defense, and don't go die off in faraway corners at the end

[wind arch]

Tbh just ignored betc

Helped a lot

[lean mantle]

Played with friends and got 9 deaths

Played solo and got 3

Playing with buddies was still more fun entirely because of the fact that 4 dumbasses screaming into eachother's ears whilst getting hit with a firing squad is more enjoyable than suffering alone

Duck and cover has somehow made me despise septic spreaders more than I did before

[mossy zodiac]

EDD was way easier with the CN cryo driller in the team in my experience

[eager atlas]

from the creators of the ceiling is orange, coming to you, the floor is orange too

[jolly herald]

Just don't stand still

or stand on the floor

or out in the open

or anywhere

[lean mantle]

Quite frankly, our driller made a bunker and both our gunner and driller were still going down anyways

Truly a duck and cover moment

[honest bobcat]

... did they stand right in the axis of the bunker entrance

[lean mantle]

Nah, it's just that the under bunkie was so small and had such a short entrance that spitters could very easily get in and be able to shoot at us

It was better than standing out in the open but it still wasn't ideal

I was scout so I was kinda just sat in the most out of sight spot and shot whatever happened to get through, but unfortunately they didn't quite understand that they didn't have to shoot any macteras that got through, and it distracted them enough to let the spitters get a shot or 2 in

[silent spruce]

Duck and Cover is the worst for me, Mactera is a close second

Stage 3 was very annoying, holy crap

[rose shore]

theres a bet-c in r second level??

[tiny marten]

i didnt engage bet-c personally

[austere lintel]

BRO i 100% agree

I got to the EDD stage 3 solo today and at first it was fine (as fine as duck and cover can be)

But after like 5 minues there was too much of them and i got quite literally stuck in a limbo for another 40 minutes of getting swarmed without breathing room cuz it would go like this.

1-get a swarm

2-start running around and killing

3-it goes on for like 5 or more minutes cuz i had to run around constantly in order to not get insta killed by like 30 (not joking) spitters on the ceiling

4-their number are VERY slowly going down

And then another wave spawned cuz i humanly cant kill them all fast enough and i cant just finish the objective because it was the black box and i was a scout

And after those 40 minutes i chewed thru all 3 of my supply drops (solo may i remind you) and finally got killed

I can send a video if ya want

Or a clip rather

[tiny marten]

send one, i wanna see xd

[wind arch]

Yeah far side of the cave in the edd, you can do the entire mission without waking her

Which is prefferable

[winged plover]

does anyone have any tips for doing elite deep dives/haz 5 in general? i usually just play on haz 4 difficulty for normal missions but get destroyed when doing EDDs and haz 5 missions

[eager atlas]

keep moving and be efficient

[austere lintel]

Prioritize running away and being in a good and safe position where youre not gonna get attacked from behind instead of focusing on killing everything asap

[austere lintel]

Sorry i just looked thru all my library and it seems like out of all things these clips it didnt save all i have is this screenshot (remember like 80% of those kills are from duck and dive alone) ill post in #drg-gallery if ya want

I can also go into the same deep dive to get the footage if you want to see it itll just may take a hour or a bit more

Since ill probably get stuck in the same way

[jolly herald]

practice haz 5 mining missions on small/simple caves - the biggest change in haz5 is bug speed so you need to adjust to that

[winged plover]

ok thank you guys

[fresh robin]

What do you think is the gun/overclock counter to Duck and Cover anyway?
Preferably something AOE

[marble hinge]

platform gun, drills, snowball, ntp

...phero nade/bolts

[lime hollow]

The platform gun really is the hardest of counters to duck and cover

being able to just put up a roof and do your tasks is so nice

but in terms of actual damage Carpet Bomber is my personal favorite. After the orange is scrubbed off the ceiling it's basically a slightly more annoying mactera swarm mission

[wind arch]

Cryo

[chilly shore]

the solution to every problem is roll control

[still geode]

Coilgun

Especially hellfire

Ntp is also really good

For engi, ecr works well, as does the electric plats one for stubby, roll control is very good, vir is good for the spitters

Driller kinda just runs fsd or sticky fuel + persist plasma tcf and burns the spitters and tcfs mactera

Scout is a bit weird but you can run like fear m1000 with cryo nades and fire/taser bolts?

Leadburster grenades are also amazing vs spitters and mactera

[solar skiff]

6 edds in a row ive gotten full greenbeard lobbies this sucks bro

[median agate]

When is it not good

[novel shale]

elim

[median agate]

Tru...

[median agate]

Maybe run embedded dets on zhukovs, should do the trick. Or use drak with plasma splash

[wind arch]

Gk2 with burst

Works well for mactera

[mental rampart]

Ngl I didn't even know there was a BETC. My team rushed through the 2nd stage pretty quick

We managed to get through the 3rd stage with teamwork and saving up nitra from the last stages

[wind arch]

2nd stage gave us all sorts of issues

Mostly because we were playing 2 in a vc, someone without, and a random

The black box was annoying but it's whatev we sorted it after 4 restarts

[mental rampart]

Fuel stream diffuser with the extra range upgrade on tier 1 let me kill all the acid spitters on the ceiling with my flamethrower

then temp shock them with that rad gun

[wind arch]

Yea

I was running gunner because I didn't think I could trust the random with shields

But gave up and just went facemelter + temp shock build like usual and it worked out fine

I hate the shockers so much but the wave cooker is perfect for them

Gunner struggles hard

[fervent heath]

any tips on how to do black boxes solo as scout? i struggled especially on the duck and cover one, and i ended up resorting to making a bunker instead. is there any way scout generally approaches missions where you have to stay in a small area?

[winter veldt]

Phero nades

[smoky hawk]

yea, pheremone grenades are a good thing

[mellow cradle]

AV on drak can be good too

and DB

[tiny marten]

genuine question but what would you pair AV on drak? i havent tested it a lot and i cant think of viable options

[mellow cradle]

something single target

[tiny marten]

whjat are the solid options tho, we got jumbo, mby shaped too eh, trifork, emd det

[mellow cradle]

yeah, those are pretty much your options

[fervent heath]

damn, so either abuse phero, or dont run special powder

i think ill just abuse phero

[jolly herald]

this is almost always the answer to 'how can i win as scout'

[jolly herald]

you can also take cryo bolt nashanka leaving your primary for whatever OC you please

cryo bolts useful for stationaries and mactera and phero useful for black box

[tiny marten]

i wanted to know what is paired well specifically with AV, that's the problematic event in the case : /

[jolly herald]

apologies

[tiny marten]

i have done my edd, he just happened to mention it on this channel so i continued here xd

[jolly herald]

understood

[tiny marten]

dont for such trivial matters :3

or rather no need ig

[jolly herald]

EDD stage 3 was fun

we wiped first time, our driller took the spare resup going into stage 3 and he immediately went down to landing party, I had to call a resup away from the black box to clear everything out then we got a swarm while I was building a roof over the box, ran out of platforms to make it big enough and we didnt have enough gas to pull through

[mellow cradle]

how did you make a roof over the black box when it was right under the ceiling?

or maybe we got slightly different positions

[jolly herald]

we drilled it down 1 tier

this was the misplay

[mellow cradle]

oh

[jolly herald]

i thought driller was taking it to the floor

next attempt we took it to floor

way easier to roof

also i took more resup going into stage 3 so i had plats spare

[tiny marten]

he had a 1 star promoted driller, on first black box (stage 2) he c4'ed it down and literally created a space a full shield could barely cover and the moment you got to see the exploders they were almost in breathing distance from you

2nd it took him like 5 whole minutes of doing nothing but trying to make a bunker which wasnt good enough until he was shown from a gunner able to teach him on the spot apparently

[jolly herald]

yikes

[tiny marten]

but ig, driller was welcoming to learn, gunner had positive attittude, noone blamed the driller in the meantime so we got through somehow

[novel shale]

a greenie making The Soup Bowl of Death? a classic

[jolly herald]

I still remember being shown how to do the plats for omen tower for the first time, everyone has to learn somehow

[jolly herald]

I stopped going in these now, i'd rather solo a swarm than willingly stand in those coffins bunkers

[tiny marten]

i know how the should look but i havent bothered with optimal height, what is it?

[jolly herald]

Roughly dwarf eye height/resupply height

if you use a resup on the one opposite the key like most do you can use the height of the resup as a guide for the other plats

[mellow cradle]

everything between molly (sitting) and resupply height is good

[tiny marten]

goodie

[jolly herald]

first go on stage 2 we held out in the small cave entrance near one of the eggs, second go we built a bunker and did 2 x triple egg pulls to speed it up

[vestal sapphire]

using burst is a fate worse than death just use aise lmao

[lament lantern]

It was only semi recently I even learned it was a thing
And I have legendary 1 engie..

[jolly herald]

🤷‍♂️ not everybody can know everything about every class, a lot of it depends on the sort of lobbies you are in and difficulty you play it - platforms arent really required for omen outside of haz 5

I still encounter engis that don't use repellent at all which is crazy to me but YMMV

[median agate]

Nah, those radial pulse projectiles hurt real bad on haz 3 and 4

[eager atlas]

you can mule and resupplypod the beams anyway

I'm more concerned about drones if any

[silent spruce]

I think the only "safe" way to play against Duck and Cover is to play as an engineer. Seriously. Get some Lok-1, Shard (deep core and breach cutter might work as well), double turrets and shredder. I call this "the lazy engineer". You will kill pretty much all spitters, spreaders and mactera automatically. You might get some ammo issues along the way, but if you work around that you're golden.

Bonus point if you get some OCs like Chemical Rounds

[austere lintel]

Yeah i know

Gunner if played well can also counter duck and cover pretty well

Also thanks for the suggetion but id rather struggle and play the game then play a lazy build where everything around me automatically dies and not play the game

This isnt attack on you in any way (or anyone playing these kinds of build) im just saying that that is a playstyle i dont enjoy

[jolly herald]

true, just find there is a lot more spare resup and sugar on those haz's to where its a bit more forgiving

[jolly herald]

what OC you use while you struggle out of interest?

[fresh robin]

Personally I agree, Engineer can feel a little lazy sometimes, and they get a lot of kills by just playing defensively with turrets. I'd prefer where I get super aggresive with the enemies, which is why I'd desire burning hell minigun or driller

[jolly herald]

turrets and to a lesser extent SSG mostly just kill swarmers, grunts and naedocytes which are pretty irrelevant tbh, idk why everyone gets so hung up on kill count

[honest bobcat]

Yeah engie's kill count is bloated with swarmers and other 1 hit enemies counting as a whole kill each

[eager atlas]

well if your engineer doesn't have the most kills, that's something that may or may not tell you something

[winter veldt]

The true performance numbers: times downed and revives

[jolly herald]

not really, its hard to quantify performance in a game with so many variables - a scout can avoid going down for a full 30 minutes and do absolutely nothing to contribute to a win

[fallow relic]

whats the objectives or mutation for the 2nd EDD mission this time?

[eager atlas]

pinned

[austere lintel]

True show of good performance is who carried dorreta to the drop pod

[winter veldt]

so true

[austere lintel]

Mostly when i play scout cuz i dont have enough dps or when i play driller cuz i dont have enough range

And ths OCs i most often use are double barrel and stability engine for scout

And snowball and hard hitter on driller

[vagrant fable]

lordy that third stage of the EDD was not it, hopefully everyone else got through it alright.

[native wave]

no it crushed my balls

even the second one did with that scalebramble because I was solo on gunner

[silent spruce]

Two black boxes in a row. Stage 2 and 3. I was like: "Bruh..."

[austere lintel]

Black box and duck and cover is such a kick in the balls

Especially on a 3rd stage

[vague lantern]

that third stage was awful

i had to carry so hard on gunner

the engineer brough electro micro conductors ;-;

[silent spruce]

lmao engi was trolling hard

[vague lantern]

i want to be fair and say that we were going in blind, but it's relaly his own fault

[silent spruce]

I would never bring EMC for an EDD

[vague lantern]

we told him that the stubby was good...

[burnt sandal]

I once brought it for a haz5+ elimination

didn't do a lot of damage but nothing could move, that was fun

[vague lantern]

teh dude clearly did not understand what we meant

the funny hting is taht even the driller neded up killing like 100+ more bugs than the engie

while i killed about 2x more

[silent spruce]

EMC can be very powerful in some missions, but since is so situational, it's not a good idea for EDD.

[silent spruce]

You think he was testing it?

[vague lantern]

i have no clue what he was thinking

[silent spruce]

lol

[vague lantern]

but i do somewhat regret taking jetfuel homebrew for the edd, but i dont think the minigun would've fared much better with how much pressure we were under on the second stage

[silent spruce]

Thing is EDD can be very stressful sometimes. I always bring my best setup and hope for the best. I'll try goofy s. on normal missions.

[vague lantern]

jetfuel homebrew is actually quite good

with stun and armor break, it has good single target damage and can deal with any armored, tanky, or otherwise troublesome bug

like stingtails and macteras and praetorians etc.

[silent spruce]

Ah, yes. Sure. I was talking about the engi build lol

[marble hinge]

MCAO?

[idle jacinth]

Turret arc works for duck and cover just need to plat the ceiling

[marble hinge]

would take careful placement, and hope your bunker is built right

learned that the box has a max distance from its spawn point this week ._.