deep-dive-discussion

[rose shore]

troll(⁠눈⁠‸⁠눈⁠)

i (NEED) to resupply

[rigid turtle]

Yo Driller! Nice Killcount. What setup did you have for Swarmageddon and Duck and Cover?

Im not an Elf. I swear. Didnt see it was a Leaflovers until i drank it.😰 (Dont look at my profile Picture. Did not think about it at all xD)

[rose shore]

at this rate the acid spitters will populate the spawn cap and ill only the to deal with them XD

[humble harbor]

that looks like a driller's paradise ngl

if you bring fsd no spitter should rlly touch you

[rigid turtle]

FSD? The overclock for Flamethrower?
Dont play Driller much, does it have that much range?

[humble harbor]

20m with the upgrade yeah

even if you didn't have it, or the spitters are reaaaally high up, driller can always tunnel and be relatively safe

[rigid turtle]

Reading the Deep Dive Channels really makes me want to play more. Was there ever talk about making longer missions in a Deep Dive style without the Matrix Cores?

I played Gunner in this EDD with a Bullet Hell setup. (After i found out Swarmageddons also there during the second try.) Still a bit unsure how to be effective Singletarget against Bulks etc. Got any tips for fitting secondaries?

[soft current]

Acid and Microwave gun, only had one overclock to make the pools more damaging
99% of the game-strat was to make a bunker and then go out to save whoever didn't make it in on time for the swarm after it had passed

[rose shore]

1st attempt is a failure

map generation fricked me in the 1st part

[mellow cradle]

for bulks you can just throw leadbursters under them

[rose shore]

with an army of mactera goo bombers and acid spitters

[civic yoke]

Having a gun build for swarms and another for single target Is usually the way to go for balance, specially on deep dives, since u are playing bullet hell you could go bulldog elephant rounds 2332x, brt with experimental rounds or lead spray is a good choice but lead spray is kinda hard to use since u gotta be super close of the bugs

and as chibi said, with two well placed lead burster grenades under a bulk it insta kills it

https://youtu.be/SnrPcbmBgPA?si=QywsXPqDyG5nrxr8

[rigid turtle]

That is good to know. Thank you!

[civic yoke]

I think it insta kills until stage 2, idk how much health they have on the third stage of the edd since it is haz 5.5

in haz5+ thougness 2 in my experience I had to use 3

[prime pewter]

3rd stage is haz 5.5?

never knew this though they were all haz 5

[eager atlas]

Yes

4.5
5
5.5

[prime pewter]

1st stage still always the toughest though lol

[eager atlas]

At the end you usually havve so much nitra it's actually easier anyway

[prime pewter]

maybe its just me but the first stage this week was rough

its just that you spawn in the middle at the top of the mess

so its tough to get down and you are surrounded

[eager atlas]

You just havt to keep moving

[prime pewter]

ya got it done first try but it took a while

[acoustic skiff]

All 3 stages are incredibly rough

Duck and cover on morkite, then the protection one with swarmageddon which can overwhelm you at bad times, then ANOTHER morkite with lethal enemies.

We had a pack of Praetorians spawn on that one, my god, we literally had 14+ praetorians, 5 of which spawned with an oppressor as well. Scariest sight if i did not have NTP autocannon and a dude with sticky flames flamethrower

[civic yoke]

I have been running cryo again with crystal nucleation and those praetorian swarms are a joke lol

cold radiance + direct freeze damage + the crystals (since freeze mods affect them) to freeze shit super fast

gonna be a while for me to go back to flamethrower

[little flax]

At least with Rich Atmo you can run away easily

[eager atlas]

Yeah rich atmosphere makes the last mission relatively easy

[iron crypt]

played this week's EDD on all 4 classes, hold E and a dream on stage 2.. https://imgur.com/a/V7BOBYo

[spark pebble]

To be honest, at the very first attempt, I died there along with all my team : D

[jolly herald]

Duo'd with cryo crystal driller and ecr/feedback loop engi
Stage 1 you need to head to the rig and either dig or build a roof to give cover for the swarms - if you are strict about being under the roof for every swarm there is nothing remotely difficult about this stage.
Stage 2 just be sure to have efficient swarmer clear and it's fine, the stationaries aren't too bad, we just got spammed with sting tails instead.
Stage 3 just hyper focus on the stalker and there is so much nitra left over you basically can't lose as long as you don't get 1 shot. Really fun edd for me, made a change from a fairly boring week last week

[humble harbor]

wtf happened to scout's blahaj

[jolly herald]

Wow scout and gunner struggled hard

Nice carry

[static lichen]

this edd was easier than i expected

my beloved ecr countering stage 1's gimmick

[valid igloo]

this 1st stage edd really is tough...

[static lichen]

it mostly requires good long-range weapons

[mellow cradle]

and stationary enemy countermeasures

like cryo bolts, or hyperprop...

[static lichen]

both of them at the same time

not that i would know about any of that

[mellow cradle]

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[hardy wigeon]

i still cant understand

how ppl do this constantly

the instant throw thing

[hardy wigeon]

scout having more kills than gunner is funni

[iron crypt]

sometimes it just be like that

[hardy wigeon]

true

[civic yoke]

animation cancel, just press laser pointer after u throw the grenade and press g again

there is a tutorial for driller axe cancelling, is the same thing u can look it up in yt

[hardy wigeon]

i thought ur suppose to pickaxe

[civic yoke]

pickaxe makes u stop running

laser pointer doesn't

both work tho

[hardy wigeon]

is it easier to do with the laser

[civic yoke]

afaik is the same thing but like I said using the pickaxe makes you walk.

[eager atlas]

Q also works, which is closer to where your fingers already are most of the time

[cursive moth]

I just unlock deep dive what's the difference between deep dive and normal mission beside the reward

[mighty falcon]

Deep dives consist of 3 missions back to back, with 2 objectives per mission

[dull night]

deep dives also don't spawn any regional minerals during the mission itself.

[cursive moth]

Thanks for the information

[cursive moth]

Wait why am i getting overclock on normal mission

I thought you can only get overclock from deep dives and promoting

[exotic belfry]

You also get them from the weekly core hunt

[mighty falcon]

The weekly core hunt assignment gives you a set of 3 matrix cores

[exotic belfry]

And a few seasonal assignments, but none of those are active atm

[mighty falcon]

Each deep dive gives you an extra set of 3 every week

So you can get up to 9 matrix cores each week, not counting promotion rewards

[civic yoke]

Kinda wished we had that promotion reward back when I started playing, can't imagine how long the grind would be now with those 160 overclocks

there were only 4 weapons for each class when I started playing tho

I played a beta (I think it was a beta) back then when the space rig was work in progress, still want my shooting range

[unkempt dew]

You can do the math. Whatever player level you were post full ocs

[civic yoke]

I have no fucking idea that was like 3 years ago or something lol,
prob like lv 300 or something

[peak hamlet]

So fuck the elite deep dive this week

impossible

[civic yoke]

I had to carry a team today, they jumped out of the drop pod on the first level it was so funny

[peak hamlet]

We died about 6 times on the first stage

before getting to the 2nd stage

and deciding fuck this

[civic yoke]

what class did u play

[peak hamlet]

I was Driller, Had a gunner and scout

the normal deep dive was fine

[civic yoke]

can almost bet that gunner forgot he had shields

[peak hamlet]

the elite is just impossible

[civic yoke]

we had a dread spawn in the first stage it was a shit show

[peak hamlet]

God

The first stage of the elite is hell

[civic yoke]

at least the driller did something with the cryo

[peak hamlet]

thats the only way to describe the first stage

Hell

[civic yoke]

Well driller kinda struggles reaching the ceiling with the primary

when I go cryo I run cooker with boiler ray, I should use the EPC but I like microwave gun

my suggestion would be to keep moving cause acid spitters suck, and mactera has less chance to hit you

it you are getting melt by trijaws just walk forward and the projectiles won't hit you

[peak hamlet]

we can beat the 1st stage

the spawn is shit

but its beatable

the second stage is just meatgrinder

[civic yoke]

at the omoran or defending dotty in general

[peak hamlet]

just surving more than 5 mins on teh second stage

[civic yoke]

if your team is going down cause of the swarmers you guys gotta bring more swarm control

[tiny marten]

honestly with the first stay of this week's edd it's better your team to be cryo oriented

[civic yoke]

boiler ray melts swarmers, since you are driller could try that, it is kinda good against grunt swarms too

[tiny marten]

if you have cryo bolts cryo grenades scout and cryo gun driller

youll be fine for both first and second round

if your driller decides to wanna play flamethrower when there's so much value on cryo scout for party1 of the edd then imo he's just trolling

and then almost renders your bow useless for anything outside mactera

[civic yoke]

fire bolts on scout are a good choice too tho

[tiny marten]

not for this first stage of edd

[civic yoke]

great combo with pheromones bolts

[tiny marten]

cryo cant be compared to that

imo

[swift jacinth]

i feel like the drillers loadout is more important than scouts

[tiny marten]

too many stationary targets and mactera cause of duck

[tiny marten]

generally if you want ot make a solid team loadout the rest of the team's loadout depends on what primary weapon driller is using

[civic yoke]

you underestimate the power of a well placed phero bolt, let one a well placed phero grenade, with the AOE of the fire bolt it melts everything

[jolly herald]

scout should not be worrying about swarmers

thats for engi driller and gunner to take care of

[swift jacinth]

unless its the new oc on cryo i dont see why driller wouldnt run flamethrower or goo gun for swarmageddon

[civic yoke]

yes, scout should be taking care of hvt most of the time, but it doesn't mean it can't do swarm control.

[jolly herald]

we ran it with cryo driller and it felt pretty comfortable

[civic yoke]

m1k is a very good weapon at base for hvt

[swift jacinth]

ik my friends dont have the best loadouts but sticky flames is so ammo efficient for swamageddon

[tiny marten]

most drillers know how to play with sticky flame

[civic yoke]

crossbow is huge support

[tiny marten]

only

[jolly herald]

i had to switch off my beloved VIR so my friend could use his cryo cannon because he doesnt have sticky flames

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1235886430740283443/1262144983063072779/EDD.png?ex=6695879d&is=6694361d&hm=bd64582e1a08756f0597e27c934eef098d631843a6813343b39d8150b6879cb2&

he did well for his first EDD though

[civic yoke]

I don't even use sticky flames and still do good with the flamethrower, I never liked the gameplay of shooting at the floor.

[jolly herald]

yeah its just too op on escort

[civic yoke]

sticky flames with a good driller tho is a beast

[jolly herald]

you can lock down entire waves with less than half a mag

i was running feedback loop shard, i think that thing is very underrated

on duck and cover you can melt entire spitter waves and mactera swarms

it obviously deletes packs of swarmers instantly

[civic yoke]

my main on flamethrower was 22331 with CFV, that's how much I like shooting bug in the face

[jolly herald]

there is definitely something satisfying about torching a huge bug wave

[civic yoke]

still used sticky for big targets to stack with direct heat tho

that why I use crystals now, cause it freezes big enemies super fast

[vague lantern]

did everyone have the massive praetorian swarm on the third stage?

[civic yoke]

it's random

[vague lantern]

huh

[civic yoke]

the swarms are not seeded so maybe some people did, some don't

[vague lantern]

my teammate died early into the wave and most of the praetorians were perma aggroed onto their dead body, and combined with the speed form rich atmosphere i had a great time (though i suspect my team thought otherwise)

i'm pretty sure i had to kill most of them though because i took multiple resupplies in little more than a swarm's length of time

[civic yoke]

I find kinda funny that a team with rich atmosphere gets downed by the slowest enemies in the game

[vague lantern]

yup

somehow our haz 5.5 stage was rich atmosphere no negative threat warning

practically a normal stage at that point

[jolly herald]

in fairness praets spit has a broken hitbox

[vague lantern]

fr

[jolly herald]

so i can see someone getting clipped by that unintentionally

[vague lantern]

they need to tweak that

[civic yoke]

but it's a cone, just Walk to the side lol

and shoot it in the ass

[vague lantern]

you'd think that would work all the time

90% of the time the praetorian just so happens to swing its head in the same direction as your strafe

[civic yoke]

you prob need stun in your build then

[vague lantern]

and sometimes you get hit even when clearly meters to the side of the spit

[jolly herald]

its definitely not that simple

[vague lantern]

ironically i prefer not to have stun against a praetorian so that i dont have it spinning to face me sooner

praetorians also are always quick spinners with me

[civic yoke]

they be spinning

[jolly herald]

this

amount of times they wind up to spit and then just decide to lock on and spin

[civic yoke]

I mean if you know there is gonna be a praetorian swarm, you want to be in a open space

[vague lantern]

or when any enemy with a ranged attack fires 0.2 seconds after turning a corner

[jolly herald]

yeah which is fine until the praets start spitting at you through walls and floors

[vague lantern]

their spit should not be allowed to go through walls

[civic yoke]

fight them back with breech cutter

[jolly herald]

[civic yoke]

beat them at their own game

[vague lantern]

3 out of 4 dwarves disagree with that statement

[jolly herald]

alternatively: SSG

[vague lantern]

oh yes the grenade that tickles a praetorian's sides

until it keels over from overstimulation

wait that sounded wrong

ignore me

not even giving lootbugs a shower with the lithofoamer?

ohno

[civic yoke]

nothing happened here

[jolly herald]

we had a bulk spawn when i called the drop pod on EDD, luckily he got very confused by all the repellent i had out and just sort of sat on the wall doing nothing

[vague lantern]

bulks are affected by repellant??

neat

[civic yoke]

big ass bug can't walk over some foam platform

[jolly herald]

i dont even know, we had so many resupplies i put 5 layers of repellent on the wall behind the refinery so we didnt get stalkers on our asses

bulky boi did not know what to do

my driller friend got some good EPC practice

[civic yoke]

by practice you mean he killed half the team with the 200 damage ball of death

[jolly herald]

a couple of times

[civic yoke]

I had a driller early today that killed the scout mining some nitra like 6 times

[jolly herald]

6 times definitely feels intentional

[civic yoke]

funny thing is that he was pinging the minerals just to have scout mine it, just for him to EPC mine it second after

[vague lantern]

the second stage has a rough enemy pool too

[civic yoke]

I had a bulk spawn there, I was playing gunner so bro did not last 2 seconds alive

reduced to atoms

[jolly herald]

we just had insane number of stingtails

on stage 2

like, multiple waves of 3-4

[vague lantern]

fr a bulk had spawned but we killed it before it could even get within blasting range of dotty

[jolly herald]

one stingtail griefed my driller friend by yoinking him into his own C4 detonation

[civic yoke]

I remember a sting tail grabbed me just as a resup was landing

[vague lantern]

haha

[civic yoke]

still waiting for a sting tail to yeet me while a bulk is dying

[honest bobcat]

See you in hell
But bug version

[vague lantern]

with the build i was using i focused on quickly taking down tanky bugs and especially stingtails the moment i saw one

[honest bobcat]

Had a sting tail yeet me into a bulk
Not dying, but enough that it hellfired my butt

And I died

[vague lantern]

ever had a stingtail pull you into another mid air stingtail pull and you land with less than half your hp?

stingtails are fun

[civic yoke]

I had a sting tail cave leech combo once

[tiny marten]

you shouldve died from stretch

[civic yoke]

and also a sting tail yeet me into the refinery landing zone

[honest bobcat]

Was scout
Had jetboots
Still not enough to not get bullied by 2 stingtails

[vague lantern]

jet boots just makes stingtails yeet you further 😦

[civic yoke]

live hoverclock scout reaction

[next pebble]

[civic yoke]

[honest bobcat]

[winged prairie]

Is it me or is the elite deep dive drop pod spot is fucked?

As soon I'm down there I get greeted by 3 of them shotgun spitters

And just get eviscerated

😭

[jolly herald]

it's a rough start, recommend going straight to the refinery and creating some cover near it to fight swarms in relative safety

[tiny marten]

driller should just rush in and create a tunnel in the sand imo

[winged prairie]

Yeah we tried to seek cover in the pod for a bit but other goobers I was with told me to not hide in there so I pop a shield down and still got evaporated

[winged prairie]

Our driller ran away

(He was level 32)

[tiny marten]

💀

[jolly herald]

its sandblasted, you can dig yourself a bit of cover with some time - you will not manage the swarms without some where to hide

engi can also roof off the pit the refinery is in

[winged prairie]

That would help but we had one of each class

Plus

I think it was me and scout who were the only 2 people with brains

The engi and driller were new and they thought they could do a dde

😭

So I'll have to get my buddies on tmr to show them the hell hole

Because funny

[jolly herald]

1 of each class is fine, although it is grief that both your driller and engi were idiots and they help most on that first stage

the small room with the 2nd scan objective in is small enough to make the swarms more manageable

it might be worth retreating there for the swarms

although it makes the refinery objectives harder

[winged prairie]

Yeah it sucks they ran off as soon pod opened up and just made it worse and on top of that they have never had something like that before

[jolly herald]

fair enough, this weeks EDD seems to be a bit of a skill check - good players don't seem to struggle with it but it crushes anyone relatively green

general consensus seems to be either:
Really easy
Nightmarishly hard
with no inbetween

[winged prairie]

For sure

Hey by any chance do you know what's after the refine mission or not yet?

[jolly herald]

its always pinned

[winged prairie]

Oh fr? I haven't been on this server for a hot minute

[jolly herald]

stage 2 is escort + morkite well with swarmageddon warning
stage 3 is refinery + morkite mining with lethal enemy warning + rich atmosphere anomaly

[winged prairie]

Damn so it be a skill check alright

[jolly herald]

yeah, nothing too bad if you know what you are doing but enough to wall out any newer players

[winged prairie]

Definitely

Well now I can probably make better plans and hope for the worst to happen at the wrong times😭

[jolly herald]

my main issue with stage 1 was nitra - due to cave size and lack of scout i spent a long time looking for enough nitra to sustain us for multiple swarms

[winged prairie]

"Scout go do my taxes"

But yeah there were some nitra spots but barely enough to get past with a good team

[steep bane]

I nearly did the first two stages with just myself and a random for the Elite Deep Dive

We lost on the last health bar for the Drilldozer

I think we did pretty damn good for just a duo

[rose shore]

not exact, but i have had a nemesis grab me and move me into a bulk, killing me immobilised

I finished this EDD solo as a driller. tried doing it with a team of engi scout(me) and 2 gunners. failed miserably and one of the gunners bailed on us in the 1st misson

then i did 2 attempts as a scout solo, 1st attempt didn't go anywhere and the 2nd attempt got me to the 2nd stage, it was impossible to avoid the swarm and protect dorreta simultaneously

even with a shotgun maxed out in defending against swarms...

In the winning attempt, I used the driller with sticky flame set-up with the +range -rate of fire OC. and the pistol with increased damage to fire lit bugs and an axe

I made like 12 Safe bunkers throughout the EDD

and i took the Red Rock beer that gives more hp. since the 3rd level spawns a lot of stalkers and they can one hit you normally. with it you can survive with 40%hp at max shields and health.

I drilled to the heart stone before opening Doretta, dealing with all the stationary enemies first. making at a lot more manageable...

[steep bane]

Honestly I'd be happy if I did the first two stages and that's it. I couldn't care about the cosmetic matrix core.

[rose shore]

Lastly i had bosco do ALL the mining, using the mine upgrade, fear rockets, elec shots and extra Lives.
with bosco doing all the mining you just have to pick up and deposit it.

[rose shore]

true, I got the hipster OC for the m1000 so this EDD was soooo worth it

[steep bane]

I've just been having trouble getting a team. I could definitely beat it if people just stayed and didn't leave. My last attempt it was just me and a gunner (I was driller) and our engi left minutes into the mission.

Surprisingly me and the gunner nearly beat the first two stages only failing at the last health bar for the Drilldozer

[rose shore]

oofff, i get that, exactly the reason i decided to run solo for the edd

[steep bane]

I don't think I'd be able to do solo especially with the duck and cover modifier

I suck at killing them

[rose shore]

i think as the driller that is the easiest mission of the bunch.
you dont have to kill them if you stay out of their sight, almost always stay in your tunnels and make separate tunnels for the pipes

[steep bane]

I also don't really use a refined build. I just use the same cryo snowball one I've been using so I could probably beat it if I actually tried to get a better build.

[steep bane]

Yeah I put bunkers up at the main site and tunnels for the pipes it just the downtime when there's no swarms or objectives going on

[rose shore]

id run a flame thrower or something that focus on damage through floors, since there are too many enemies to kill by direct damage imo

[steep bane]

I like cryo because of vampire

but I guess on EDD it isn't too helpful

[rose shore]

makes sense, but melle slows your movement speed, really dangerous when your constantly being showered by bug bile XD

[rose shore]

i thought cryo bolts could freeze many of the swarmers and acid spitters, but it didn't work out as a solo scout... in earlier attempts

[steep bane]

True but if you pick carefully you can get a decent amount of health back especially if you throw your axes at the right angle to kill multiple

[rose shore]

axes can kill multiple targets??

[steep bane]

I'm pretty sure they can

It feels like they can

Especially frozen enemies

[exotic belfry]

Yes, they have an AOE component

[rose shore]

thats news to me!

but i don't think vampire will work too wel on the 1st level... or the 3rd for that matter. with lethal bites being in play

[steep bane]

Yeah I'm just lazy and don't really change my builds

[rose shore]

best ignore the enemies till you can funnel them in tunnels kill them then continue objectives... don't know how to deal with the ammo situation if your not running solo... since i had bosco deal with that section

[rose shore]

one big tip i d know is you can make a lot of time for yourself if you can funnel all the enemies into the smaller cave with 1 resonance scanner

Then quickly leave it, making the main cave with few enemies to bother you

[steep bane]

The first mission is honestly really easy it's just the Drilldozer that's hard because of the amount of enemies and you can't camp on the Drilldozer because of the spheres that pop up

[rose shore]

Personally i frequently change my builds to see what each upgrade does, helping me in creating my preferred build... but you do you ...

[steep bane]

I really want the new OC for driller. It's an ice one and it looks awesome.

[rose shore]

i can deal with the spheres, the trick is to stay on doretta, but as SOON as you see the effects on screen and hear the heart stones grab attack you dash away from the drill, it wont damage the dozer tha way

although i have no clue on what to do with the flying rock attack it does, i cant do enough damage to it and it took 3 lives and 2 hp bars of the dozer in that phase...

[rose shore]

which one, the one that gives a lingering effect on the floor for the cryo?

[steep bane]

Yeah a gunner is extremely useful for that

[steep bane]

Yeah I think that's the one. I've only seen it once but it looked cool.

[rose shore]

i... kinda got it before even starting to upgrade the driller XD

what perks did you use?

[steep bane]

Uh I haven't changed my perks since season 1...

[rose shore]

i had auto reload, quick resupply and the movement buff after constant sprinting. with glyphid pet and dash as actives

[rose shore]

I'd say you REALLY should

[steep bane]

Although to be fair... I stopped playing when Season 2 started and just got back into the game

[rose shore]

ooooohhhh thats cool, your an OG

[steep bane]

I have insta revive iron will vampire and bigger pockets I think

[steep bane]

I wouldn't say that. S1 was still pretty late into the game.

[rose shore]

I understand having a preferred loadout, mine is resupply, auto reload and extra pockets. but this EDD demands change. so i git the extra speed for dodging

since you must know that the stalkers in the 3rd level will instakill if you plan on finishing the dive

and they are fast as frick

[steep bane]

I'm pretty determined to beat it so I'll probably change up something. I just don't know where to find good builds. Karl gg has builds but I'm not sure which ones are actually good

I really only care about the second mission because it will actually give me something I'd use.

[jolly herald]

IMO deep pockets is a waste of a slot when soloing, given that 80 nitra gives you all 4 resupplies to use yourself

[rose shore]

I don't look at other builds, just test in normal levels... but i dunno where to look at for other builds...

[jolly herald]

especially on this EDD - double refinery = loads of loot bugs = nitra

[steep bane]

I can't remember what I have exactly on I gotta check again since it's been like 3-4 years lol

[rose shore]

Considering how much I LOATHE molly I'm taking the extra pockets so i gave to stay as little time near her as possible. and fewer trips back and forth, especially during duc and cover missions

[rose shore]

jesus you should try a few normal levels to get adjusted to your build and whatever changes the devs have made across the seasons

[rose shore]

it does make sense this EDD i agree though

[steep bane]

I don't typically have a hard time honestly. I can do Haz5 pretty easily and normal Deep Dives easily.

[jolly herald]

healing off vampire axes is too good for me to go without on driller tbh

[rose shore]

normal dd I can handle, i recently unlocked haz 5 so im don't completely understand the changes made in it

[steep bane]

Haz5+ though.... That's a nightmare...

[steep bane]

My thought process basically.

[rose shore]

considering i can handle edd i should manage haz5... and im not unlocking haz5+ any time soon XD

[rose shore]

I've never used vampire before so i might try it out...

i did recently buy the cryolator

[jolly herald]

vampire is probably one of the biggest perks you can use on driller

[steep bane]

Unlocking Haz5+ sucked

I had a really hard time on drilldozer

[jolly herald]

When i unlocked haz5+ my industrial sabotage mission was lethal enemy warning... i thought it was hard coded for the assignment (it was not)

industrial sabotage lethal enemy was... not fun

[rose shore]

even if your main damage source is by running away and having lingering flames do the bulk of the damage?

[jolly herald]

8 axes total, 5 hp per axe, plus power attacks, resupplies

its a lot of healing on top of the big damage output

[steep bane]

Yeah there were times where I just waited until there were no modifiers to make it as easy as possible.

[jolly herald]

you'll always want to axe praets, stalkers, oppressors etc

[rose shore]

i reserve my axes for them and trijaws yeah...

[jolly herald]

and to proc healing during iron will

[rose shore]

frick trijaws, they WILL hit you even if your sprinting to avoid them... highest priority imo

[burnt sandal]

run toward them instead

then they won't

[rose shore]

but if you run iron will and vampires you don't have space for dash!... I can't imagine going into any mission without it...

[jolly herald]

iron will + dash actives

vampire, resupply, born ready passive

[rose shore]

ooh my mistake 😅

[jolly herald]

np!

with dash and vampire its very hard to die as a driller

in a panic you can always axe grunts for free healing

[rose shore]

makes sense actually... but what to do if they have an army of grunts below them?

[jolly herald]

hope you have dash or power attack ready

[burnt sandal]

I'd rather take a few grunt bites than a trijaw shot

[balmy nacelle]

anyone knows how i can rejoin a deepdive after i disconnected?

[rose shore]

never though of it like that

[desert robin]

@rose shore
I used quiet a lot of builds
The most effective that I used contained hipster double barrel and a cryo grenade

[rose shore]

so m100 for crowd control and double barrel?
i also used the m1000 (with the OC that turns it into a sniper) and a shotgun with both ammo upgrades (with stuffed shells OC) and pheromones.
but couldn't defend dotty while being chased by swarms in the second level. made tunnels like a pseudo driller for the pipes in the first level

[desert robin]

basically, I found quiet effective to freeze the barage and ball spitter give them 2-3 shots from m1000 and finish them with double barrel, as well as this I run out of ammo queit quickly and didnt had enough nitra as I didnt mined any at that moment

[novel shale]

if it doesn't give you the "last session ended abruptly. attempt to rejoin?" message you can't unfortunately

[rose shore]

That is powerful...
I gave Bosco the mining upgrade, and he did all the mining, i just picked up and deposited when safe.
I had to herd the monsters to another part of the cave so i could safely do it XD

[desert robin]

fair enough, the second problem that I couldn't set up the pipe line due to constant stream of projectiles flying in my direction

[novel shale]

lay down the segments as fast as you can, then ping the first segment that requires construction and bosco will build the entire pipe for you

[rose shore]

It really is a problem, you have 2-4 seconds tops before you get hit if you stop, and you need to mine out such large tunnels to make the pipes, there is no normal way to get the pipes to the wells... I'd go into the side cave where the second resonance scanner is and wait till all monsters are there, then I quickly leave it and start mining the tunnel for the pipes..
really stressful

especially when a storm hits, just blindly grappling for my life XD

[desert robin]

Ill give it a second try a bit later need to go for about an hour

[vague lantern]

if there's no direction to go but away for any reason you coudl always try running zig zag or at a slight angle

tri jaws have a set spread so they can still whiff if dodged correctly

[pastel trail]

Hey, I'm relatively new (just promoted a class for the first time) and had a pretty easy time with my first deep dive, but the EDD absolutely kicked my ass and I could hardly make progress in the first layer. Are there any major strats for dealing with the ranged enemies or is it just really tough this week/easier with a lot more experience? (for reference I'm playing solo gunner)

[lunar linden]

yeah this EDD is not for soloing at all unless you're driller

and if you really want to do it as gunner you need NTP

[civic yoke]

imma take that as a challenge and will solo it with engi

[lunar linden]

good luck lmao

[pastel trail]

I haven’t even found Overclocks for gunner yet so I’ll probably skip out this week haha

[civic yoke]

you underestimate my 2k hours at this silly dwarf game

(def not getting my ass kicked)

[lunar linden]

Just look in #lfg-steam

Or pubs

[pastel trail]

Do enemies scale at all with more people? Or is it the same no matter what

[lunar linden]

yea

i think they scale

[pastel trail]

Alright, thanks for the info, I will try and get in a lobby at some point

[mellow cradle]

engi is probably one of the best for the job, because he has loki

and an engi secondary

[civic yoke]

then imma do it with scout

[mellow cradle]

scout is probably locked into cryo / fire bolts and m1k for this edd

when solo

and escort probably would like to see pheromones too

[civic yoke]

don't be stealing my builds

[mellow cradle]

I am inside your head

[civic yoke]

not a lot of stuff there

[eager atlas]

it's a rough one but it is doable solo if you know what you're doing
for ranged enemies, you need to keep moving, gunner does have a lot of range in his main weapons so you can dispatch them, but you can't afford to get hit, if you're using the minigun you need to learn to jump and shoot to keep full speed

that applies to the other weapons too I guess

[pastel trail]

Oh can you keep sprint speed by jumping with your primaries?

[civic yoke]

u keep momentum yeah

[pastel trail]

That’s very good to know

[civic yoke]

extremely good with lsls

[civic yoke]

https://imgur.com/a/0TVplQE

we game

[icy hollow]

any good hints for EDD?

ammo?

[civic yoke]

having lots of ammo should not be the focus of a build, you have to build around the oc u go with, I used ecr 21111 cause its good for mactera and it melts the swarmers at stage 2, and breech with inferno cause fuck it.

should prob pick stronger plasma current but breach deals good burst damage even with inferno

overdrive booster could be good too since that lok build is for swarms

[eager atlas]

unless it's been fixed, inferno actually gives more damage because it's bugged and doesn't remove damage

[civic yoke]

idk if they ever fixed the fire mod in pgl

[civic yoke]

also I guess I never noticed that cause I have been using only inferno

could prob go test in sandbox but Im lazy

[eager atlas]

Do you mean the hyperprop + heat pgl? that got fixed in february

[civic yoke]

ye I wasn't playing in february

so I don't know what got fixed unless I go to the wiki

or to Karl.gg

[lunar linden]

Crazy

[civic yoke]

also I didn't knew there was a bet-c , but bet-c spawns are weird af in deep dives, I guess it only spawn with 1 player

[pastel trail]

is more ammo generally less useful than surrounding mods? I've picked up that you generally have more than enough nitra for a resupply each layer and don't even necessarily need it, but I'm not sure if that's this dive or a common trend

[lunar linden]

Oh what

You had a Bet-C?

Cheater

[civic yoke]

unless the overclock really hurts ur ammo I don't pick ammo mods, but you can try and see what's better for u.

[eager atlas]

I did solo and didn't see a bet-c

[civic yoke]

at the last stage yeah

yeah I did solo too

[pastel trail]

gotcha, I'll play by feel as I unlock overclocks and build w/ em

[civic yoke]

might run it again later to see if it spawn again, or maybe its an Microsoft store version super exclusive spawn

[pastel trail]

also you're insane for doing this so quickly gg

quickly as in after deciding to attempt

[civic yoke]

nah some people do some insane times but I'm not into speedrunning so

also I did the edd twice with 4 players and didn't see a single bet-c, but like I said bet-c spawns in deep dives are weird as fuck still don't know how it works but player count has to do with it

[pastel trail]

could it be reliant on clicking "solo" on the deep dive menu? you can play solo with bosco anyway when set to private/public but maybe it changes

[civic yoke]

yeah it was set as solo cause you can pause

[pastel trail]

oh that makes sense

[civic yoke]

I know cause I had to pee lol

was in the middle of a swarm would be giga dead if it was online

[rose shore]

tried soloing it as a scout, impossible. maybe with engi, i did it with driller

[rose shore]

cooollll how did you win with engi, what strats did you use?

[rose shore]

one test i did find, even if you start a public deep dive lobby, it will automatically switch to solo if you leave alone

[civic yoke]

all i do is keep moving and shoot bug

[civic yoke]

pheros might help, and fire bolts

[icy hollow]

i got to stage 3 as scout in EDD
i died so quickly to lethal swarmers from nexus adn the first swarm being swarmers

ugh

i died after an hour and ten minutes

[civic yoke]

thats why u gotta keep moving, if not bugs bite ur toes

u have bosco so make him mine the nitra

[icy hollow]

still

got to 3/3 on this EDD

[gilded sundial]

why are you doing it solo?

[charred radish]

Some people play the game solo

[dreamy star]

Guilty

[honest bobcat]

People play the game ?

[steel path]

anyone wants to do elite deep dive?

[agile venture]

does anyone have advice for doing the EDD? I had an engie leave in the first mission, but we managed to finish the first. Died at the second though

played as scout, ran ai stability engine and special powder and pheromone canisters

[shadow temple]

Co-op wise, you're gonna have a hard time in Stage 2 especially. Aside from helping to build pipes, scout's also not that great for the OSR missions either, seeing as nitra is easily located (and reached) even without the flare or grappling hook from my experience for this EDD

I don't think I'd recommend special powder for this EDD, you're gonna want something that will help against swarmaggedon

[agile venture]

double up on a certain class instead?

[shadow temple]

Ye, engie/gunner would be a good second pick imo

Mainly cuz of escort duty

tho another engie can also help with speeding up the pipe building too

As far as I remember, all the pumps can be reached with an engie, you don't really need to dig to the wells unless u want a shortcut

So I think even to a certain extent, driller is not really a good choice either especially cuz of duck and cover

[agile venture]

driller was a big help when we did the first mission; bunkers were very helpful against duck and cover

but i suppose engie plats can do the same

[agile venture]

but it's one of those weeks where Bullet Hell + Magic Bullets would've been completely justified.
Would you agree with this for EDD?

[fresh robin]

Been watching a lot of my EDD gameplay as gunner
Somehow in most of my playthroughs, I usually get the least amount of deaths along with the most revives
Like I would get 3-5 deaths with nearly 20 revives while my team would get double digit deaths and few revives

[mellow cradle]

I could see either of them working on the first stage, but definitely don't double up on them
also the crowd control of magic bullets doesn't scale so well with enemy density, so I would take bullet hell, and some single target secondary

[agile venture]

six shooter?

that's the only real st secondary overclock i have for it

[mellow cradle]

can work

the coilgun in general is also single target

and can spam fear as well

[agile venture]

mole, hellfire, or triple tech?

[mellow cradle]

either mole or triple tech

[agile venture]

magic bullets 31222 triple tech 23223

[mellow cradle]

magic bullets?

maybe you meant bullet hell

but for that, take damage in t2, and don't take cold as the grave

[fresh robin]

I did use six shooter and cluster charges hurricane this EDD, pretty solid ngl

[agile venture]

how does triple tech work? i've never used it before

[buoyant igloo]

why not cold as the grave? I have it on my minigun right now

[mellow cradle]

cold as the grave sucks, because you don't really overheat with the minigun anyways (all enemies are dead by then) (unless you have some oc that increases heat)
also, high heat is good, because hot bullets will give you ignition for that, and aggressive venting gives you more protection, ignition, and makes your uptime better

[buoyant igloo]

good to know

not a gunner player normally lol

thx for info

[fluid aurora]

used fuel stream diffuser and tried full auto vb subata for a change
edd went smooth as butter
guess crspr just op like that

[agile venture]

i used sanbox utilities

wow, ttc is fun

how do you guys build it?

[mellow cradle]

I do 22223

[agile venture]

lost at the second mission again

right at the end too

i think i need to actually party up with some people here now

i accidently popped iw with someone when the team went down; that cost us the mission later down the line

[wary apex]

could use help with a deep dive rn if anyones available. hope this is the right chat to post in

[eager atlas]

might have better luck in the #928582985559736360 channels

[agile venture]

i'll ask later after lunch

i want to at least finish the second mission

i found that i wasn't really triple tech chamber much

or at least

i couldn't really tell its impact

[twilit cedar]

Does anyone also encountered crash on edd

I suffered through Almost half an hour of bullshits and it crashed on me

Twice

On the same progression

[lament lantern]

This was by far the worst EDD I've done to date. ow.

took me well over an hour.

[rose shore]

my tip, take a driller with you, have him dig and clear out the tunnels of enemies to the heartstone and collect nitra beforehand.

and his primary can make swarmageddon easy to manage

[unreal meteor]

just got my first promotion and can deep dive now lets go

bruh i started one and my game crashed😭

[hard pagoda]

holy shit, what the fuck is the first EDD stage

[eager atlas]

it's refinery

[pallid haven]

why are there so many spitballers

and the barrage things

[hard pagoda]

we died to fall dmg to spiters one shotting us cuz we low hp all the time

been ages since a last hard EDD

[prime pewter]

First stage is tough the rest is ez

[lyric zenith]

whats the best aoe oc for managing swarms on stage 2 of the edd?

[idle jacinth]

How to trivialise swarmageddon mod:
driller sticky flames or crystal nucleation
Engi volatile impact reactor or plasma trail roll control
Scout cryo/fire bolts
Gunner just spam fearcoil with literally any primary build

[gilded skiff]

Which missions are in this deep dive?

[lyric zenith]

oh nice, i just got crystal nucleation from gunner promotion

but this is all good stuff

[lyric zenith]

google deep dive tracker, I'd link it but I'm not sure images or links are allowed in some places, least i haven't seen a lot

[burnt sandal]

or he can just check the pinned messages

[lyric zenith]

huh, i didn't realize that either, i mean check pins? who thinks to do that?

but there it is

[rose shore]

anyone who uses discord should?

[lyric zenith]

what people should do and what they actually do are often quite separated from each other. I mean imagine if most of your discord servers pins were stupid memes and irrelevant information, you'd probably learn to tune them out or forget about them

but regardless, its kinda off topic, lets get back on deep dive discussions

[desert robin]

This week's edd will give me PTSD, you lift your head up for a sec and you die, especially as a scout

[fluid aurora]

spitballer firing squad

[fresh robin]

Having a gunner this EDD is important for first stage

[jolly herald]

I would argue a driller is the only mandatory requirement for this EDD

i did it without a gunner, had no downs across all 3 stages

i would not like to attempt to lay those morkite pipes without some cover and a driller

[desert robin]

idk how someone got through the EDD as a solo scout, the moment I clear one wave the second comes up

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[fair karma]

Fuck this week's EDD holy shit. The first is kinda ok, but the second, goddamn

I have never seen this much swarmers before

[desert robin]

same mate

[fresh robin]

tomorrow gonna be my last deep dive before my college starts
Can I speedrun it? let's find out

[eager atlas]

Engie can do it but it's a bit roundabout

[eager atlas]

Scout doesn't clear waves, he does things as he avoids

[thin briar]

can anyone help me do elite dd?

[hardy rain]

hey everyone. was wondering about getting my first EDD done, I managed the deep dive solo before and I have 3 dwarves promoted. Could I handle this week's EDD in a full group?

[jolly herald]

This weeks EDD is extremely polarizing - generally experienced players have no problem with it at all, while people new to higher difficulties or the elite dive format tend to struggle

If you have the time to spare and nothing else to do i see no reason not to try it

I would expect some difficulty if it is your first time, though

[hardy rain]

gotcha, thanks for the tips. I could put in some time to get it done as a first. I was thinking of going either driller or engineer, maybe gunner too if needed, with tame and field medic perks.
I've also heard that vampire perk is something you need to have for EDD, is that true?

[jolly herald]

In general vampire is a must take for any high haz mission as it makes proccing a revive out of iron will very easy

I (engi) duo'd it with my driller friend, it was his first EDD and it felt relatively comfy, i think he went down twice

[hardy rain]

ohh, that makes sense.. any health regen will turn iron will in a revive

so it synergizes with that one

[jolly herald]

it is generally a very strong perk regardless of whether you use iron will or not

5hp every power attack for duration of mission is a lot of hp

[rose shore]

i don't think you can, scouts don't have the ammo pool too deal with such hordes, but it could be possible by completely avoiding the enemies through movement in the 1st level...

[jolly herald]

i would like to see a solo scout POV of this EDD for sure

[hardy rain]

that's something I'll need to practice with then, only been using perks for some utility so far and thorns. I like that one.

[rose shore]

i wonder if a solo gunner or solo engi has been accomplished

I've done solo driller, i think the easiest of the 4

[jolly herald]

Thorns is a trap, it has an internal cooldown and the amount of damage you'd need to take to clear swarmers make it very much not worth it - it's also just been nerfed to no longer effect naedocytes so I'd definitely take it off your load outs

[hardy rain]

damn, that's a shame.. ye, I was going to change it anyway for something else if I'm going into EDD

[tiny marten]

usually the cookie cutter is iron and dash for actives, resup born ready and vampire for passives

[hardy rain]

I'm using deep pockets, vampire and elemental insulation. for actives, iron will and field medic

[tiny marten]

dash is by miles the strongest active perk imo, deep pockets is QoL, it's better to get used to without it, elemental insulation i always thought it was greater than it actually is but it's not THAT good, still has its usages in certain bioms but still not the strongest of the picks

[fresh robin]

Somehow according to some pros
Best perks to use for high hazards are resupplier, born ready, vampire, dash and iron will

[burnt sandal]

"according to pros"
didn't know we had DRG Esport

[fresh robin]

Or should I say, hazard 5+ or 6 players

[next pebble]

Sweaties

[quasi sleet]

more like sweeties

[next pebble]

Not from what I've seen more often than not

Sweaties is accurate.

[eager atlas]

Solo engie is easy, ecr lok1 trivializes stage 1

[rose shore]

haven't gotten the lok yet how does it work

[astral hound]

me getting gatekept out of lobbies for being noob 😭

had some people who seemed cracked who didn't mind me tho 🙏

[winged frigate]

what beer would yall recommend for this deep dive? i got a rocky mountain and would prolly do a scout

ok looking at the deep dive i might do engie instead

[civic yoke]

rocky doesn't help a lot in sandblasted, it takes 1 hit to dig sand

[winged frigate]

im doing standard deep dive, not elite

[civic yoke]

red rock it's always good

[winged frigate]

TRUE

[civic yoke]

oh my bad

[winged frigate]

atuall ill probably just go through my engie promo till i get a red rok

[winged frigate]

im not thaat good at the game, when i do an elite deep dive im gonna wanna at least do it in a group first

[civic yoke]

yeah I usually do pubs even tho I can solo them

[winged frigate]

good god this elite is all refining

Oops, all liquid morkite!

[civic yoke]

yeah, people say it's kinda hard

I usually have no problem with them but that's cause I have a lot of hours so saying it is easy wouldn't be a valid claim.

[rose shore]

if it's your first edd, better skip this one

[civic yoke]

nothing lost in trying tho

[winged frigate]

also beer is tunnel rat, can only imagine thats good for maybe eggs and maybe morkite depending on how they generate

[civic yoke]

can always change it disbanding team

unless u have a mod to change it

[winged frigate]

was about to try and do an elimination mission... with the mortar overclock for the autocannon

one of the worst missions i could use it on lol

actually does armor breaking help with the default dreadnaught's back armor?

[civic yoke]

no

[winged frigate]

darn

[civic yoke]

it's just a second health bar

[winged frigate]

makes sense

[civic yoke]

it does break twins armor tho

[winged frigate]

ohh

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[lament lantern]

I did solo engie

(though I guess i did have bosco, which some people don't consider true solo?)

[winged frigate]

thats wild

bosco is so useful

[lament lantern]

it was painful even with bosco

[winged frigate]

i mean if you want a real challenge then ig no bosco but dang

[civic yoke]

solo with bosco still solo, true solo has a different name for a reason

[lament lantern]

fair

[winged frigate]

there we go got red rock blaster

[civic yoke]

true solo players on their way to equip beast master

[lament lantern]

I'm kinda tempted to try scout now. this weeks normal DD was my first scout DD though, even though I've soloed a bunch of normal/elite as engie

[civic yoke]

i was gonna do scout solo but already did this edd like 4 times it gets boring

also did solo with engi

btw did anyone had bet-c in solo last stage, too lazy to test now but im sure its just a microsoft version thing

[wraith shard]

I did this EDD multiple times and didn't encounter a single miniboss unfortunately

[civic yoke]

i mean on solo tho

i did it with 4 players too and didnt get any bet-c

[lament lantern]

I.. don't recall having a betc?

[civic yoke]

but when I did it solo with engi I got a bet-c last stage, again its prob a microsoft version thing

cause i play on game pass

[lament lantern]

Who was hosting when you did it 4 player?

[lament lantern]

no definitely didn't have one. my last betc was on fungus bogs

[civic yoke]

doesn't matter who is host afaik, I play pubs so I forgot

[lament lantern]

If it's a microsoft version thing, then I'd assume the host being on steam would mean betc wouldn't happen even if you were on the game pass version

[civic yoke]

there is no cross play between steam and xbox

[lament lantern]

ohh right.

[civic yoke]

U can play with xbox users but only with the game pass pc version

I was just curious anyways

[wraith shard]

I was on steam as host and I had a betc

also edd is hell
1 hours, end of 3rd stage, I got 1k kills 10+ downs alongside everyone else and we fail
gotta retry it with bosco since everyone in my timezone is asleep

[wheat otter]

how to beat the current elite dive?

[civic yoke]

watching solo runs helped me a lot when I started playing and had a hard time with elites, gave me an idea of what to focus on and how to deal with some enemies

[eager atlas]

that one's actually really good, yes they have explosion resistance, but it still does a lot of damage and oh god it trivializes the hiveguard

refer to this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565850434376302613/1263332525426737252/2024-1719902948162.mp4

[winged frigate]

ohh huh

[eager atlas]

it's so dumb I love it

[lyric zenith]

ok, finished the EDD, 3 bronze one stars and a 3 silver gunner and it went smooth, using advice I read about on reddit and the weapon advice i got here

stage 1 and 3, bunker during waves, then go out and do the things after most of the enemies are cleared, stage 2 was just drilling ahead, clearing the caverns and having good aoe loadouts, I was driller with crystal nucleation and the wave cooker on max lens width

we nearly wiped during heartstone drilling when it was at the final stage but gunner with shield was able to stay alive and res everyone

the drill lost 2 sections during the rock dropping but we kept it alive long enough to finish

also we were all almost completely out of ammo for run back to drill at the end

efficient nitra use and supply drops are important

also having someone on mic who already attempted and could give directions quick was really helpful, everyone was on task, no redundancies of two people trying to dig two seperate holes to the same well etc

[eager atlas]

sounds like you had fun!

[lyric zenith]

also used this guys perk suggestion loadout and it was really good #deep-dive-discussion message but I was driller with cryo cannon and microwaver so switched out born ready for friendly

[lyric zenith]

it went pretty smooth, heh, i dunno if you can call it fun, i just do it for the matrix cores, haha

[idle jacinth]

My recommendation for cryo driller would be vampire, resupplier, and thorns. Take dmg on the drills and use them to get melee kills on frozen enemies for bonus health

In dense crowds you can fully recover health in a few seconds

[lyric zenith]

did thorns get buffed or something? from what I've read, due to having some sort of cooldown it is somewhat underwhelming. The idea to use the drills as melee though is good, I'll give that a try, I've just been using the pick axe

I did find friendly to work well in this instance due to how wide my aoes were and well, how people typically love to jump in front of me

[exotic belfry]

Thorns actually got nerfed lol. Shocker (one of the few thorns 1 shot) got their damage type changed and now do not trigger it.

[jolly herald]

Thorns is really bad

Don't use thorns

If you are being hit by 1 or 2 swarmers that thorns can kill without trouble, you are better off using melee and saving a perk slot
If you are being hit by a literal swarm of them - you are going to die before they all die from thorns, making it a wasted perk slot
If you know you will run into swarmers (swarmageddon) you should build for it or seek out a teammate to take care of them for you

[idle jacinth]

You can run whatever but that's my advice

There's some argument now for elemental insulation for acid spitters and shockers but the other passive perks still don't offer enough

[jolly herald]

Of course you can run whatever - you can run no perks if you want - but I feel its bad form to recommend others take bad perk picks

elemental insulation is fine (good even)

thorns is just bad, sorry

[jolly herald]

a good alternative to born ready if you dont need the reload is either elemental insulation or sweet tooth

sweet tooth is nice if you are using TCF EPC as you can snag sugar from the ceiling

[idle jacinth]

This is for cryo driller so born ready would be useless

[jolly herald]

thats what i just wrote

a good alternative to born ready if you dont need the reload

[idle jacinth]

You suggest for TCF EPC which you won't use with cryo driller

Idk if I see a point in this

[jolly herald]

you talk about meta OC combos and also recommend thorns - interesting

you can absolutely run EPC with cryo

freeze + EPC bomb is a potent combo

[eager atlas]

I like sweet tooth on reloadless builds

though first level seems to have no red sugar at all?

[jolly herald]

sweet tooth cryo vampire driller is very hard to kill

[jolly herald]

i also noticed this, and struggled to find nitra given cave size and no scout

was harder than the swarms imo, finding resources

[eager atlas]

there's a lot of nitra, but it's all in high walls and awkward places

[jolly herald]

yeh

in fact i think other than killing swarms i did nothing but hunt nitra while my friend did the mission for me

[eager atlas]

lol

[jolly herald]

he didnt mind

in his words: 'no worries bro i love laying pipe'

hiyooooooooo

[eager atlas]

nice

[eager atlas]

In case you're still interested https://youtu.be/8nU43b1WzYU

Regular solo because I'm not a god scout that needs no bosco, I like my boscos

[jolly herald]

nice! I will check it out

yeah no bosco on stage 1 would be rough

[eager atlas]

died once to the ommoran, and lost a side because bosco couldn't defend her while I went for groceries

I lost the other side to my own incompetence but let's ignore that one

[marble thistle]

Handling BOSCO to be effective is a skill, but very much useful.

Should I go NTP this EDD?

[eager atlas]

ntp is very useful for sure

[marble thistle]

War crimes my beloved

[eager atlas]

also in hindsight, aggressive venting probably would have been better

[jolly herald]

AV nice for stage 2 i guess, just not so useful on stage 1

I ran Feedback loop shard instead of VIR because my driller friend was running cryo and it made me respect feedback loop a lot more

you can still pick ranged stationaries, its great for swarms of spitters and mactera due to the AOE ball and it melts swarmers just as good as VIR

only issue is the ammo economy is not as good

and ofc no magma slow

but who needs slow if all the bugs just melt

[eager atlas]

feedback loop is great, but it's very easy to underuse it or overuse it

it also eats OMENs for breakfast

[jolly herald]

on the final stage we had about ~6 resupplies leftover and i was just free firing and melting swarms

[jolly herald]

good to know, hadnt considered the splash and direct damage actually

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[fresh robin]

My very last deep dive today

Before I go back to college lol

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[empty spear]

-01:-12 lol

are they usually late?

[drifting tinsel]

refresh your game

Weekly Deep Dives information for 2024 July 18 to 2024 July 25 (Week 252)
Deep Dives will reset <t:1721905200:f>

DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Endless Drift
Stage 1: 200 Morkite + 2 Mini-M.U.L.E.s | Elite Threat
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + Liquid Morkite Well | No Mutator
Stage 3: 250 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Low Oxygen

ELITE DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Engineer's Field
Stage 1: 200 Morkite + Liquid Morkite Well | Duck and Cover
Stage 2: 10 Aquarqs + 2 Eggs | Low Gravity Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 2 Resonance Crystals | No Mutator

Here's your reminder that if you had Deep Rock Galactic open while the weekly assignments and dives refreshed, you'll need to restart the game to access new weeklies. Your game will still be stuck in last week's rotations otherwise!
If you're new to the Discord, please remember to drop by #welcome-and-rules and grab a platform role by reacting to a message. Thanks -- Rock and Stone!

[rose shore]

this is frikin awesome dude!!!

[jolly herald]

Another easy edd it seems

[solemn hazel]

Why there's so many dd on biozone lately

[cold kindle]

WHY stage 2 is always so cursed

10 aquarqs + eggs + warning

• LOW GRAVITY IN RADIOACTIVE ZONE

Hello radioactive crystalls,nice to fly around you and take damage from radiation

[cold kindle]

At least not shield disruption...

Shield disruption in radioactive zone,that would be amazing

[mystic horizon]

this week’s deep dives seems hella easy jeez

[cold kindle]

This week is about solid morkite

Previous was about liquid morkite

[rose shore]

management has been extra greedy lately

[mystic horizon]

the hunt for a difficult EDD continues

[rose shore]

thankfully the missions don't have scenarios they can screw a specific class

[jolly herald]

where my morkite beer enjoyers at

[lunar linden]

ah bruh

[silent prism]

Why the same primaries for Stage 1 and 3? Both DD and EDD

[lunar linden]

10 aquarq stage 2 edd

thats so ass

[jolly herald]

low grav tho

[cold kindle]

Radioactive zone

[rose shore]

management wants more morkite XD

[cold kindle]

Next week: morkite seeds

[fair karma]

Hoarder at the beginning of basic deep dive, amazing

[rose shore]

a lot of them XD

[cold kindle]

After morkite seeds: gas morkite

[rose shore]

or maybe this is the result of getting morkite seeds, so many morkite missions

[rose shore]

that'd be interesting to see, perhaps the blood sugar missions have morkite in the gas form making it toxic and giving the nearby bugs crystallized blood sugar

[jolly herald]

reduced fall damage and easier to kite swarms, i'll take low grav on any biome - you can always power attack the death crystals

[fluid aurora]

or tcf or mortar them

or just like

mine them

with your pickaxe

that would also work

[rose shore]

if im not mistaken they break in one hit, why not just mine it when you have shields on?

not even the end of it, breaking it in the middle is enough to deactivate it

[fresh robin]

not a bad deep dive and EDD

[jolly herald]

Of course, i just like to fly by power attack so i dont get chunked by the aura

[elfin berry]

Just did both DDs as solo scout; stage 2 of the EDD was honestly pretty easy. Grapple + low grav meant I could just fly around the map playing the floor (and killing bugs) is lava

[fluid aurora]

the elites are either the most snoozer shit of all time or the most hellfire and brimstone shit of all time

this week is the former in this case

though first stage we had to leave two dudes behind cos they didnt get in the tunnel in time

and my ass was not about to go after them

[jolly herald]

what happens if you get left behind on an early stage of the DD? genuinely never had it happen to me

[fluid aurora]

you just get brought back for the next stage

no complications

pretty lame since you can just one-man escape and next stage you'll be fine

but i guess its about as lame as being able to iw/field medic once every stage

[drowsy solstice]

rubs hands I can work with this DD

low grav on REZ is gonna be so cursed tho

[wraith jackal]

Wait... dreadnoughts are fixed?

Dang, I went in with Driller cause i wanted c4 for hiveguard incase it spawned

[jolly herald]

yeah IW refreshing is pretty lame IMO, does make it a bit too easy to cheese

ammo/nitra carries over but IW/medic refreshes

[fluid aurora]

generally i dont enjoy dives that much

no season or machine events or random bosses

and everything takes 5ever

and there's a billion nitra so survival is kinda lame

[jolly herald]

they are a bit boring unless you get a nightmare seed

[fluid aurora]

yea last week's took me 3 tries to do right

only because stage 1 duck and cover stage 2 swarma kek

and stage 1 had the most nightmare well spawns

pretty good one though

[swift niche]

Are Deeper Dives not a thing anymore? On the wiki page it lists Deeper Dives as an even more challenging mode, where if you don’t reach the drop pod you get kicked since you were eaten by bugs

[fluid aurora]

no dude fandom wiki is being trolled

use wiki.gg instead

fandom sux in general

[swift niche]

Ah gotcha

[fluid aurora]

deeper dives are not real glyphid embers are not real and there is no queen of england

[jolly herald]

yeah having enough nitra for like 6 resupplies makes the final 'hard' stage normally the easiest

[fluid aurora]

real

[swift niche]

Glyphid Embers?

[fluid aurora]

really wish the'yd adjust nitra spawns for the dives

[rose shore]

any resources they had on them is gone though...

[fluid aurora]

not that big a deal

the nitra loss is like 40 at most and dives jack you up with so much nitra youd think another economic crash was happening

and no one cares abt gold (as they shouldn't)

better to secure the next stage

[jolly herald]

nah, my aim is to always secure the bag

[fluid aurora]

why dont you secure a position at a lumbermill you lanky knife ear whalepiper

[fresh robin]

dawg this deep dive and elite deep dive is so easy i finished both in less than 30 minutes

or prolly cause my team was very efficient

welp those are my last deep dives, back to college now

[swift niche]

Seeing as how I’ve only been playing a week, this weeks EDD seems easier than the only other one I’ve seen XD

[fresh robin]

I enjoyed playing this game this while vacation

[mellow cradle]

indeed it is

[jolly herald]

you what

[fluid aurora]

idk

[cursive escarp]

this weeks edd took less time than than the normal😭😭😭

[turbid ermine]

it felt like morkite was a naturally spawning mineral like gold in both deep dives

i think all except 1 mission had it as an objective

[rose shore]

now we have a serious problem leaf lover

[rose shore]

hope you get great results

[astral hound]

exact same experience here

last week i was struggling

failed 3 times on 2nd mission could not get it at all in the end

This week was so chill

[swift niche]

ANOTHER DRILLER OVERCLOCK

Seriously game

[rose shore]

which class oc are you looking for?

[jolly herald]

This is your sign to start playing driller

[swift niche]

Lol, I've mainly played Gunner and Scout, was planning on Eng next

[rose shore]

i truly feel the OC gotten from machine event depends on what class your playing as, cause i never get driller oc playing as him and i never ger scout oc when playing as scout

[swift niche]

And then my team wiped on literally the last mission after calling escape. That should count as a success, dammit, we already called the pod and did everything

[swift niche]

Bruh

Both my Deep Dive gear OCs were Driller

[swift niche]

Having now finally played one, good god is Low Oxygen garbage

Just completely unfun

[cursive escarp]

it is kinda funny with the right randoms/friends😭

esp when the mule is being pulled back and forth cause the dwarves need the oxygen

[dusty harbor]

lol my group just had scouts run around the map and place resupps everywhere for the low o2, made it alot more bearable

[swift niche]

Funny is a way to put that

[eager atlas]

Rng is one hell of a thing

[rose shore]

I'm doubting it is rng at this point. I've had 27 total oc so far and the case has never changed

[brittle quartz]

Funny, I found myself thinking the opposite, that it raised the chance of giving you one for the class you’re playing

[acoustic skiff]

Wow

the deep dive elite this week was embarrassing compared to the previous one

I only died two times

and both were on the extract misson

Literally, i wasnt even in a full party, only three of us

not a single death in either mining mission

last weeks was genuinely horrendous, duck and cover on site, into swarmegeddon escort, into lethal enemies on site

[zenith ember]

Edd looks so rushable

Actually both dds are so rushable

[fluid aurora]

now i miss duck and cover refinery hell :C

[timid dove]

i havent even unlocked deep dives 🤑

[civic yoke]

don't worry next week its gonna be Sabo with shield dis on magma core

[fluid aurora]

yaaaaaayy

[hearty geyser]

dives can't get double warnings, can they?

would be funny to have one that's just out to get everyone

[civic yoke]

max is 1 per stage

[hearty geyser]

rip

[civic yoke]

blood sugar and low 02 on dreadnought missions its fucking horrible tho

sometimes blood sugar feels like an warning in some missions

[eager atlas]

my experience differs, I got many overclocks for the class I was playing so...

averages are only true in large sample sizes

it's easy to see patterns where there are none

[civic yoke]

in short rng can be a bitch

[clear slate]

i've started the EDD like four times and out of three there was a hooli hoarder right at the start in stage 1

but it flees before my squad could kill it

[lyric zenith]

had this in the salt mines, big maze, and 5 resonance scans needed.. ugh

nothing was spawning, it was only like haz 3, but someone was going down like every 30 seconds somewhere

[vague lantern]

that is the wisest wisdom i've seen in a long time

[rose shore]

the game's been kicking my balls then(⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠_⁠_⁠_⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩⁠-⁠)

apparently my entire playtime getting oc from machine events too small of a sample size

[jolly herald]

have you counted up how many OCs youve had for each class? Often it seems worse because the uncrafted ones sit in the forge and it looks like you have the most for unplayed classes, meanwhile the crafted ones are buried in the weapon build UI

[sullen bough]

@split oasis 🚫➡️ Your message content contains flagged text

[tiny marten]

how's edd this week?

[swift niche]

Much easier than last weeks

[tiny marten]

weeks? last week was hard, week before that was walk in the park, this one is even easier than that?

[swift niche]

I didn’t say it as in plural, as in last weeks’

I’d have said last couple weeks if I meant more than 1 week back

[tiny marten]

then you should've said last week's

and you'd be understood

[jolly herald]

sir this is a discord channel, nobody cares about apostrophes

I understood exactly what he meant

[tiny marten]

sir i didnt bring the whole apostrophe thingy into the convo and also didnt ask what you thought, i thought differently and to me it makes that much sense that anyone could the way it's written

[jolly herald]

[clear slate]

second stage posed the most difficulty for me in the EDD

just constant bugs from the get-go

[vague lantern]

the edd went pretty well for me and my team to the point that we beat it in 33 minutes

[ashen kite]

guys quick question: how am i supposed to know which class is gonna fit my gameplay style? beside practicing by using all of them. Are there some big features that are really important and unique for each class?

(im new to the game)

[burnt sandal]

you'll want to ask that in #drg-chat rather

[civic yoke]

idk I find kinda hard to have a challenge when you have low gravity, kinda just jump above the bugs

[ashen kite]

oh sorry my bad

[burnt sandal]

no worries

[clear slate]

It's the number of bugs. They were non stop. Could barely stop to dig out aquarqs and get nitra.

Taking damage wasn't the problem because low grav just be above them

[burnt sandal]

means you took too long
Point Extraction missions are on a "timer" to be finished before the swarms grow too big

[clear slate]

No I know of that but what I'm saying is

For me it was non stop from the drop pod to drop pod

[civic yoke]

isn't the ambushes that get big?, the bugs that spawn but are not swarms

[burnt sandal]

yeah

[civic yoke]

I guess they stack with the swarm

[burnt sandal]

Point Extraction, Refinery and Egg Hunt all have a big swarm when dropping down. It's due to all pre-generated enemies (which exist in all missions, mind you) being around one big cave

so you get attacked right out of the gate. Dealing with them fast is pretty important as ambushes will start spawning about 1 minute in.

[crimson iris]

I'm almost out of OCs

Wish that OC rewards turned directly into cosmetics

[civic yoke]

nope, gotta turn those cores into mineral containers (me with 100 containers that I will never forge)

don't even turn them into containers anymore, I have like 200 blank cores for show lol

[crimson iris]

?

[civic yoke]

when u get all overclocks they give u blank cores

[crimson iris]

Never heard of mineral containers thoigh

[vague lantern]

i got my last overclock from a forge mastery level that gave me a boltshark oc instantly

in fact my last 2-3 oc's were for the boltshark

[crimson iris]

Pretty sure I'm near the end cause I've been getting new ocs for 3 out of every 4 ocs

[civic yoke]

core infusers turn blank cores into mineral containers when you have all ocs

[crimson iris]

Ah

I'm glad I started taking cosmetics in every core infuser pretty early on

Still gonna take me a long time go get them all

[civic yoke]

I mean they give you the choice to get a cosmetic if you don't have them all

[crimson iris]

Ah okay

[lethal igloo]

30:20 dd, 29:46 edd; huge break from last week oman

[thorn wren]

@bright sigil If you just finished an attempt of an EDD with a scout that let you just sit there dead the entire second stage I want to say sorry again

[clever axle]

How do I make my driller look good he looks like a strange fellow please help

[lament lantern]

The cave generation on the deep dive was... VERY strange, jesus

[supple remnant]

Definitely the easiest Edd I’ve ever played, and the quickest

[tiny marten]

have you tried the week before last week?

[fresh ivy]

Deep dive made me cry last night.

I'm so glad we had dark morkite

[supple remnant]

I didn’t do that one no, it’s been awhile since I’ve played and I did last week’s and then this one

[prime pewter]

whats the last edd mission?

[civic yoke]

it's on the pinned message

updates every week

[prime pewter]

ok easy edd

[nimble dagger]

I really enjoyed this week's deep dive

[gilded skiff]

I died on 3rd misson could find the morkite

[vernal turret]

The second stage of edd was probably the most fun I’ve had in DRG

[unreal meteor]

so much morkite

[safe prism]

how viable would it be to farm the huuli hoarder that spawn at the beginning of the edd 😭

[mellow cradle]

not very

running normal missions would be better

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[rose shore]

(⁠ꏿ⁠﹏⁠ꏿ⁠;⁠)

I've finished my dives...
definitely

[hardy rain]

forgot to mention here, with a friend we managed to barely win that last week elite deep dive just in time, like 1-2 hours before it was over.. no biggie there, each of us had 13 deaths, some 18, some 23.

it was an experience for sure

this week, we decided to go 4 drillers, 3 of us made it through

[tiny marten]

anyone interested in running edd with me?

[vale dock]

Im done

down*

[rose shore]

finished this EDD

[hidden silo]

i beat an elite deepdive at player rank 36 :D

[buoyant wedge]

I have a question and hope it is the right room for it.
Does the game have a twitch integration where my viewers can vote to spawn things/enemys?
I only found in mod io the twitch integration but there it seems only possible if they have channel points.

[burnt sandal]

there's only a mod for that

[buoyant wedge]

Whats the name of the mod?

[burnt sandal]

you already found it, it's Twitch Integration

[buoyant wedge]

Ah yeah but there I can't find anything that they not have to fullfill something. I want them only have the voting in special durations without them have to do anything.

[burnt sandal]

pretty sure all of this can be adjusted through Mod hub
if you wanna keep this conversation going, let's move to #modded-drg-chat

[vale dock]

yo, anybody wanna deep dive xbox/pc

[jagged storm]

me, steam

[vale dock]

i only have xbox pc

unless cross platform between steam and the xbox pc version

[jolly herald]

we ran it last night with my brother, player rank 26 he was a bit overwhelmed with the number of bugs on stage 2

[raven carbon]

Yes the third stage in particular was weird

But both very easy

Edd and dd felt equally easy

Idk why EDDs are having such wild variance

Week to week

Seems more so recently

[jolly herald]

Don't think last weeks EDD was that difficult, you just needed to plan ahead a bit and approach it differently to a normal mission given the size of the cave and the warning

stage 3 cave gen this week was spooky, could hear swarms of bugs and stalkers through the walls

[lament lantern]

I've not tried this week's EDD just yet, but I doubt I'll particularly struggle

[fresh robin]

This EDD was fairly easy for some reason

[edgy glacier]

I didnt see this on the explanation, or in the wiki, so I figured I would ask, apologies for my dumb question: For the Deep Dives, do I have to commit to doing all 3 missions right now? Or can I do one, close the game, and return say 30 minutes later to do the rest?

[burnt sandal]

you have to commit to the 3 missions

[edgy glacier]

Gotcha, thanks!

[sharp cradle]

Are bug type spawns also locked like the terrain layouts in DDs?

[old widget]

...kinda. There are some parameters that are part of the map seed that control some aspects of the enemy pools, and those aspects are the same for everybody, but there's a fair bit of randomization that occurs inside those parameters. For example, everybody won't see 2 guards, a grunt, and a slasher spawn at the exact same point of the map every time, but you may see some seeds that have a disruptive enemy pool parameter that makes it more likely for bulks to spawn or such

[rose shore]

it's weird when i find a loot hoarder during a dd or edd

[sour vine]

What are blank matrix codes for?

I keep getting them from deep dives

[eager atlas]

inbetween missions there's a load screen that requires you to press a button, so you could leave and come back, but you can't close the game

not something you can do in public lobbies though

[civic yoke]

You use them on core infusers to turn them into overclocks, cosmetics, or mineral containers

[sour vine]

Can you elaborate on how to put them on core infusers?

[eager atlas]

press E

[lyric zenith]

you come across machines during regular dives (not deep dives) you can put a key into you get from promoting, once you finish the associated event, you go to the place you put in the key and can insert a blank core, you then get a choice of some things you can infuse into it

[mellow cradle]

except machine events can't spawn on dives

[lyric zenith]

deep dives, not normal dives

I'm refering to regular missions as dives

Oh i thought this was the regular chat channel, now i see where some language ambiguity could be confusing, fixed my advice