deep-dive-discussion

[hybrid sorrel]

(thats a joke)

it was rude either way im sorry

[novel sentinel]

How are this weeks deep dives for solo? Scout or driller?

[eager atlas]

whichever one you're most comfortable with

[mellow cradle]

driller can make some nice shortcuts in the mining expedition stage

in the EDD

other than that, it doesn't really matter

as long as you have a decent driller build that can deal with dreads, then it doesn't matter which class you choose

as bosco can get both the eggs and the aquarqs

oh, and the 4 egg cave in the EDD will have a lot of stationaries

but I had cryo bolts, so it was a non issue

[drowsy solstice]

mhm, ended up running double engi-driller in the EDD, ton of fun

[drowsy solstice]

the Bowl of Death\

Two Barrage+Spitballers

I had a duo in my deep dives whose host rage quit off of that

the gen for this block of deep dives have been great

[devout delta]

dude the deep dive stage 2 is so cool

[golden brook]

Whats the current edd looking like

[sterile herald]

wth i was fighting the nemesis on the 1st stage of the edd and i just instantly died after my shield ended???

[fresh robin]

Somehow this week's EDD is easy. Got lucky with no nemesis spawn on first stage

[lost night]

Wait Nemesis gonna spawn on EDD?

Or just RNG?

[lucid frost]

top 5 causes me winning deep dives:

1. no black box

[lucid frost]

RNG, i didnt meet nemesis

[tiny marten]

fake it till you make it

[lucid frost]

i've only killed like 3 stalkers in the few hours i've played and one of the kill quotes better have "get out of here stalker"

[fresh robin]

yes it has a higher spawn rate in rival presence warnings

[rose shore]

i didn't see any nemesis, but i saw 5 burst turrets a single room

[eager atlas]

nemesis in rival presence is part of the spawn pool, can appear at any time, in other missions nemesis can only spawn during generation, like crassus

[lost valve]

EDD is nothing special this week

Even on stage 3 we still won while I'm constantly alt-tabbing to partake in an Internet argument

[teal light]

we got screwed HARD on the first stage, without any liquid morkite. no nitra, nemesis, random hiveguard spawn.

[lost valve]

Hm?

I think that might be 2nd stage

[teal light]

dreadnoughts can spawn randomly

with a very low chance

instead of a swarm

[teal light]

that scales with diff iirc

[lost valve]

Ah, I meant, the liquid morkite

[teal light]

ah no that was an euphemism for lube lmao

mb

[dire rock]

I’m doing my first deep dive

[ivory yacht]

There are days I wish I was recording my deep dive
My elite deep dive, went like this

First stage: Mission control spawned the drop pod so far away from us, we had literally 2 seconds left to get on, molly walked the full 5 minutes (we had no driller, 1 scout, 2 engi, and me as gunner)
Second stage: actual hell, we choose to spawn all 4 egg waves at once + morkite well and our scout was fighting for their life while we were dead for 20 minutes xd
Final stage: our scout was finding the mini mules solo while us 3 fought all the dread noughts, we ran out of ammo and nitra, and I the only one alive had to resort to a pickaxe to finish the last dreadnought and lived

This was supposed to be an easy EDD, it was so damn stressful

😭

[civic yoke]

doesn't the drop pod open 15 seconds before time runs out, at least that's what the wiki says

[eager atlas]

molly teleports to the pod, yes

[ivory yacht]

I never knew, I just saw the time about to run out and thinking "man, not failing on the first stage because of the drop pod" xd

[jolly herald]

I can imagine stage 1 being rough without a driller to be fair

[barren mural]

I did the EDD with a bunch of randos and it went fine? (Sometimes that's not the best idea) Thought it was fine. I do remember that long walk to the drop pod tho

[lunar linden]

Yeah this EDD was chill

[somber hamlet]

Can you not get different rewards from playing the deep dive twice? I think I got the same over clocks for driller and scout because there's not anything new and I don't got a blank core

[mellow cradle]

repeating the same dive won't give you additional cores, if that's what you're asking
and if you had every weapon overclock, you will get a blank core instead of a weapon one, so you either didn't notice the new overclocks at the forge, or didn't notice the blank core count increasing

[somber hamlet]

Thanks bro I was wondering why they were greyed out after completing a stage

[carmine gulch]

I just barely survived this week's elite deep dive. I still managed to win though

I think I'm actually getting better at this game, I used to not be able to even beat the second level on elites

[serene gale]

has anyone else had some wild molly shenenigans on this weeks first elite deep dive mission?

i tried once and she made it to the drop pod with 17 seconds left

then on a second try she turned 180 for a bit before turning again and going the same direction she was before

[unborn thorn]

is anyone up for a deep dive? i can´t find any servers

[native rampart]

yeah we have a 3 man, wanna join?

[wind thunder]

SKILL ISSUE

Black Box is literally the easiest secondary primary! 😭

[finite cypress]

Does anyone wanna do some Deep Dives?

[tiny marten]

i do

[finite cypress]

ooo you do?

[tiny marten]

i hosted one if you want feel free to join

[finite cypress]

sure which pod we joining?

[tiny marten]

oh i wasn't thinking of doing it with voice but uhm

[finite cypress]

cool if you don't wanna

[tiny marten]

it's fine, i mean why not, never done it before for drg but it should be fun

[finite cypress]

lol fair enough

[tiny marten]

leggo pod 39

[tiny marten]

#lfg-steam

[cursive escarp]

just did my first elite deep dive !!!

only started a day ago (and a half) though so i did end up getting downed like 3 times😭

[eager atlas]

Everyone goes down, but that's why it's a team game

[cursive escarp]

yea the randoms were really nice about it😭

was still embarassing regardless though, I was getting tossed like a ragdoll during 3rd stage lol

[naive elbow]

this week's deep dives seemed extremely easy

i manage to do both of them solo

[rose shore]

how do you get a team ready for a deep dive?

i doubt i can solo adeep dive in the fire or ice zone's

[mellow cradle]

neither of the dives this week are in those biomes

[rose shore]

not currently, but in the future

[mellow cradle]

and as for finding a team, you can simply set your lobby to public and wait, or post in one of the lfg channels

[rose shore]

ooohhh I'll try that next dive ty

[bitter stump]

I've had EDD's where I've been downed 7+ times, for your first EDD you did well 👍

[cursive escarp]

ty for the reassurance homie

[ionic lark]

the 2nd stage of the EDD was hell for me. 5(?) spitballers and a barrage infector. in the SAME room

(btw it was my first EDD ever, dont judge)

[bitter stump]

Lines up with what id expect from an egg mission
Though frankly the boss fight with random haz 5.5 mactera waves sounds really annoying to me

[naive elbow]

ohhh, yeah
that was really funny room, nearly killed me.

[ionic lark]

it was, but was fun at the same time

[naive elbow]

well, beating an EDD at all is pretty impressive, and a lot of players don't ever get that far ^^

[ionic lark]

:)

it was fun ngl

the jet boot crate at the 2nd stage helped a bunch

[naive elbow]

i really enjoy them. It's one of the reasons why i'm looking forward to rogue core actually

[mellow cradle]

pressure waves don't spawn during a bossfight

at least on mactera plague I belive

but swarmageddon does

and blood sugar can also spawn enemies during bossfights

[rose chasm]

where's all the morkite in edd stage 1

[wraith shard]

I need an advice

[eager atlas]

only one?

[wraith shard]

Moral advice wanted

So i see myself as a greenbeard because i started at 2022 and non of my dwarfs are promoted. The story began that i wanted to get the frosty hat for driller. But ended up seeing a video where i can make my accaunt fully completed so i tried it and it worked. My question is that do i continue with the completed one(with all cosmetics and oc-s and all) or switch back to my old accaunt and grind it myself?(i made a backup)

[rich garden]

The question is do you want to earn your shit or have it given to you

[wraith shard]

If you were me then what would you do?

[rich garden]

If you need to ask, then well…. We have nothing in common

[wraith shard]

Oh sorry

[rich garden]

Why play a video game to begin with?

[wraith shard]

To experiance it

[rich garden]

Experience*, how do you experience a game if you jump to the end?

[wraith shard]

You got a point

Thanks

I will change it back

[sand juniper]

Personally I would feel unlocking stuff via save editing is cheating, and grinding to acquire stuff is part of the game experience.

That's why to me there's no better account on this game than my own; because it's my own progression.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[tepid raft]

Any advice for getting good at and surviving deep dives? I just unlocked them today

[opaque eagle]

What class do you use the most?

[sand juniper]

Mostly, don't be afraid of them. They're not really more difficult than regular games, they just take more time.
If you can comfortably complete Haz 3/4 missions, you probably won't struggle at DDs; if you have no problems with Haz 4/5 ones, you likely won't struggle at EDDs either.

And this goes for any missions really but do communicate as much as you need. Most (but not all) people actually read the chat (weird I know ) and 90% of the playerbase will respond to pings.

[tepid raft]

Gunner mostly it’s the only class I have promoted all my other classes are less than level 10

[tepid raft]

I can do haz 3 pretty decently but haz 4 really depends on my team I can’t do them on my own and tend to die more than I’d like

[opaque eagle]

Play some regular Deep dives first before you even attempt an EDD. If you want I can run a couple with you sometime tmr. As a gunner player my self, just keep moving a ton and use your shield sparingly cause it will save your life a TON. I would also suggest incidenary grenades to handle all the swarms

[sand juniper]

Well no reason not to give the regular DDs a try then. The difficulty level for each stage is 3, 3.5 and 3.5, so you don't even get to Haz 4 on it.

[tepid raft]

Maybe I’ll try out that switch I usually use cluster grenades because my gunner build is mostly about explosives and fire

[sand juniper]

Fellow gunner main btw. Shields are the best support item in the game really, and since you get 2 per ammo pod it's good to minimax their usage. Personally I like to take leadbursters because they save your ass against bulks.

[opaque eagle]

Cluster grenades are great too but if you swap some equipment and their upgrades that have trigger effects when you kill inflamed enemies it's crazy

[tepid raft]

I kinda just found a gunner build online about explosives and just used that it uses the hurricane and the bulldog (if I got the names wrong sorry I forget them sometimes) but I’m willing to make some changes if it’ll help me live longer

And I used to never use shields and hoard them “just in case” only recently have I really been using them

[opaque eagle]

Change the upgrade on the shield so that as soon as you or a tm8 enter its starts to refill your shields immediately. Mid swarm or caught in a drillers tunnel having the ability to recharge your shields instantly is nice too

Spend some time in the builds section here and ask around. There is always a new build I haven't heard of when I go in there

[tepid raft]

Which is the builds section? I’m sure it’s right in front of me and I just can’t see it, but I can’t find it

[opaque eagle]

Nah your good it's not am actual tab you just gotta ask in regular chat and people will answer any question you have

That's my bad for mispeaking and saying "tab"

[sand juniper]

Also unironically google things like DRG gunner minigun build Reddit or so. Especially when you start getting weapon overclocks in the future.

[opaque eagle]

Fr

[sand juniper]

I've stolen builds from Reddit threads and from #drg-chat countless times.

[tepid raft]

https://youtu.be/6ekFj8i6Y2k?feature=shared I stole this

But anyway thanks for giving me some tips and stuff I appreciate it 😁

[opaque eagle]

Np just have fun with it and try different classes out too. I would suggest Scout next. He's really fun and fast paced which is a nice switch up from gunner

Oh and Rock and Stone

[tepid raft]

Main reason I don’t do scout is because I play with my one friend a lot and he’s a scout main

Rock and stone!

[civic yoke]

just in case you didn't know there is a dedicated website for builds karl.gg you can build your own too and get some extra info on mods and overclocks

[nova pebble]

hello

what promotion should i be before trying deep dives?

[jolly herald]

my experience from reddit threads is that the advice there is quite often pretty bad - just today I saw a guy saying more ammo was better than repellent on platform gun

[jolly herald]

other than 1st promotion to access EDD the promotions are irrelevent -
For deep dive as long as you are comfortable playing on haz 3 you will be fine
For elite deep dive as long as you are comfortable playing on haz 5 you will be fine

I've seen legend players play worse than bronze star in EDD

[nova pebble]

ok

[jolly herald]

I recommend looking in the pins to see what the objectives are and preparing a loadout accordingly

for this weeks deep dive you have a lot of eggs and point extract primary so i'd prepare good wave clear with some way of dealing with elite enemies

[nova pebble]

any type of deep dives can give overclocks?

[exotic belfry]

Each gives their own (separate) set of 3

[jolly herald]

if you fail a deep dive on stage 1 you can still go back and do it again unlimited times until you complete

unfortunately a lot of people quit out after stage 2 as they have got their weapon core

[crimson iris]

Just hop on Karl.gg

Ton of builds there

You can filter by class and weapons

Just sort by kudos

[crimson iris]

I rarely see this

[jolly herald]

Has happened 2/3 of my last edd

[sand juniper]

I'm aware, I just don't like the site because the builds there are provided with little to no context or commentary, it's also pretty hard to find people vouching for those builds.
I do use the site sometimes to look up exact numbers on overclock data.

[civic yoke]

yeah most builds there have no context that's why I used to sort them by salutes, now I make my own builds tho.

[gray cave]

why does the current normal deep dive have 12 eggs in total? is management making the mother of all ommeletes (here, jack!)?

[eager atlas]

reminder that dwarves are born from those eggs so you're just making sure there's always more rock and stone

[sand juniper]

is this for real or

[eager atlas]

Just kidding, game never tells you what they are for but I find this idea amusing

[spark pebble]

Twist: Karl is actually the egg "spawner"

[eager atlas]

Oh god

[plain matrix]

Yeah there were a lot of eggs this deep dive.

Is drg telling me to watch my cholesterol intake???

[analog ravine]

Is anyone here that is Xbox tryna do a deep dive?

[unkempt pulsar]

anyone for Deep dive?

[random rampart]

ask in your platform's lfg channel instead

[unkempt pulsar]

ok thxs

[random rampart]

better place to ask

[prime robin]

Anyone wanna do a deep dive?

[prime robin]

Sure

[unkempt pulsar]

tomorrow bro

[prime robin]

I’m on steam

[unkempt pulsar]

im on ps5

[finite cypress]

I need DEEP DIVES

please

someone

deep dives

[unkempt pulsar]

tomorrow?

[finite cypress]

work tomorrow off today

[jolly herald]

#drg-gallery message

made me laugh

[steep bane]

Is it just me or are deep dives kinda trivial?

[eager atlas]

depending on skill level, yes they can be

[jolly herald]

I still want them to do a triple warning mission each week alongside the deep dive

haz 5.5 triple warning, usual core rewards

shield dispruption duck and cover mactera swarm

(escort)

[crimson iris]

Oh man.

That's insane

[jolly herald]

to be fair its not clear if this is solo or not

if solo its fine of course, but cant imagine doing first 2 stages solo and then quitting third

[crimson iris]

I guess, but it eould just be an extra 15 mins

To finish

[jolly herald]

indeed

[eager atlas]

make it low oxy and 10 aquarq extraction

[crimson iris]

Way more cosmetic core than overclocks as well

[eager atlas]

I wish stage two gave me cosmetic cores

I have 112 blank cores now

[jolly herald]

[civic yoke]

well yeah they become easy once you play for a few hundreds hours but people forget that they were greenbeards too and they prob got their first overclocks from deep dives

they are there for a reason, and it also helps with the overclock grind.

[steep bane]

I only have about 90 hours and have only done 5 deep dives and 1 elite deep dive and I didn't really have a hard time at all

[civic yoke]

it doesn't have to be 100 hours tho, but asking a player that just promoted to do elite it's prob too much cause they prob keep playing at haz 3 or 4

[jolly herald]

Latest elite dives have been on the easy side, we haven't had anything properly rough for a while

[civic yoke]

they have yet to experience mactera plague, low O2 and shield disruption on elites

that and terrible cave gen in biomes like fungus with 80% goo

[crimson iris]

So long as the team stay on top of stuff

It's pretty chill

Idc if I have a teamate who keeps dying

So long as they're actively pushing to get objectives done

[raven carbon]

Deep dives were pretty easy this week and fast too

[vapid coral]

so true

[honest bobcat]

Flashback to that one EDD that began with a salvage mission

Starting room was a giant goo pit and like 80% chance to have a bulk spawn
Drop pod was surrounded with goo, not a single dry part

[elfin berry]

Sounds like they really wanted scouts that week

[jolly herald]

there's goo in the ~~sack ~~EDD

[honest bobcat]

When the there are bogs in your fungus

[lucid frost]

7 nitra

7 nitra DD.

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[little flax]

You'd get most of the mactera from duck and cover anyway, so swap it out for swarmageddon

[jolly herald]

more mactera please, i want to play duck hunt with the ODB shard

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[vagrant fable]

we love deep dives

[cinder perch]

I beat my first Deep Dive with 3 others but I die too much. Should I get some Overclocks before trying another?

[eager atlas]

no

[raven carbon]

More overclocks don't make a difference as such

If you're talking about elite deep dive

Just play more on hazard 5

When you get comfortable with hazard 5 it'll be manageable

[cinder perch]

No, I was talking about regular Deep Dives. I only beat one haz 5 mission with a full group and died so much I got kicked.

They thought I was a troll or something cause I kept dying.

I gotta get better at staying alive.

[civic yoke]

maybe you are taking a lot of unnecessary risk

stick with ur team, don't go alone on a cave unless you know what you are doing (and even if you do don't lol) and always keep moving, unless ur team is fighting a choke point.

[raven carbon]

Do hazard 2 then

[raven carbon]

For practice until you get better

[jolly herald]

have you promoted?
Are you using dash? do you have iron will? breathing room? shield recharge delay? armour health mod? Vampire?
As driller you should be immediately looking to create escape routes out of unfavourable terrain whenever you enter a new cave. Try using the cryo cannon as its basically a pause button for the bugs to allow you to get distance. Be wary of cave generation when drilling so you don't die to fall damage a lot, driller has no reliable way to mitigate it.
Don't take explosive radius on the C4 as that will lead to more deaths.
Vampire + axe will keep your health consistently topped if used right

[little flax]

Well, I finally got off my arse and did the deep dive. Was a lot easier than expected. Even grabbing the goodies in the first cave, I managed 41 minutes for the entire run.

[jolly herald]

It was a good week to try out the dives, both DD and EDD were a lot more accessible than previous weeks

[little flax]

Stingtails only assisted me when they grabbed me, since I was using drak and jury rigged boomstick, the latter with double barrel

"Why thank you for assisting me with getting in your face. Have boomstick!"

[jolly herald]

call an ambulance... but not for me

[little flax]

The Drak+AV/Boomstick+Double Barrel combo is actually surprisingly effective and fun to play

I ended up with those two being my last weapon maintenance things

[jolly herald]

I like the drak, think its quite underrated

[little flax]

AV seems to cause fear as well, but I haven't seen that documented

[jolly herald]

yeah there is fear on AV

[little flax]

I skipped last week's deep dive because my approach to no molly+low o2 is "Nope". I'm also not quite skilled enough yet to break through to haz 4 play, so EDD's are out for me.

I try periodically with haz 4, but yet to have much success.

[fresh robin]

Part of me wants a really challenging elite deep dive
And I'm talking about double warning missions

[jolly herald]

to get used to haz 4 try to stick to mining or egg hunts on smaller caves

[jolly herald]

I want a weekly triple warning mission separate to the EDD

[little flax]

Honestly, the best thing about deep dives is that I can start the laundry, do the deep dive, and the laundry is done

just stuff it in the dryer afterwards

Extremely convenient life stuff

[jolly herald]

Run a 3* star escort and you can do 2 loads of laundry and let it dry before the mission completes

[fresh robin]

Think of it
Mactera Plague + Duck and Cover
Exploder Infestation + Swarmadeggon
Low Oxygen + Shielf Disruption

Gonna be super tough indeed

[little flax]

Duck and Cover + Swarmageddon would be worse

[jolly herald]

my gun is ready

[fresh robin]

That's just a lot of pain, dealing with those spitters above the ceiling and annoying swarmers ay the same time

[little flax]

When I started on haz 2 I didn't understand how swarmageddon was bad. Moving to haz 3 let me see just how bad that mutator could get at even higher haz levels

[fresh robin]

Its more of an annoyance really. If you got a good crowd control weapon you can deal with those swarmers easily, especially if you're driller

[little flax]

Oh, one thing I noticed. There was a Hoarder in the first level of this weeks deep dive and I popped it, grabbed the minerals. When I completed the deep dive I was awarded 3x what I got from the hoarder. That a 3x mission modifier for deep dives?

[honest bobcat]

Haz 5 swaemageddon...

The walls are moving

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[lunar linden]

Lets rock and stone

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[drifting tinsel]

Weekly Deep Dives information for 2024 July 11 to 2024 July 18 (Week 251)
Deep Dives will reset <t:1721300400:f>

DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Unknown Comeback
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + Classic | Parasites
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + 2 Mini-M.U.L.E.s | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 3 Mini-M.U.L.E.s + Uplink + 2 Resonance Crystals | Critical Weakness

ELITE DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Clean Bed
Stage 1: On-Site Refining + 2 Resonance Crystals | Duck and Cover
Stage 2: Escort Duty + Liquid Morkite Well | Swarmageddon
Stage 3: On-Site Refining + 150 Morkite | Rich Atmosphere Lethal Enemies

Here's your reminder that if you had Deep Rock Galactic open while the weekly assignments and dives refreshed, you'll need to restart the game to access new weeklies. Your game will still be stuck in last week's rotations otherwise!
If you're new to the Discord, please remember to drop by #welcome-and-rules and grab a platform role by reacting to a message. Thanks -- Rock and Stone!

[lunar linden]

This shit is easy

[novel epoch]

wow that's a lotta liquid morkite

and solid morkite

[cold kindle]

Our objective is liquid morkite

[cold kindle]

Wait

"Lethal enemies" and green hand up?

[drifting tinsel]

oopsie

[little flax]

Hey, lethal enemies are nice

[cold kindle]

And rich atmosphere and red hand down?

[fresh robin]

This EDD seems to favor a lot of open terrain

[cold kindle]

Maybe backwards?

[little flax]

helium is bad for your health!

[fresh robin]

Time to bring out my old trusty Cluster Charges

[drifting tinsel]

yeah it's the other way around on the in-game screen haha

i think

maybe i'm paranoid but it's fixed now lol, ty

[cold kindle]

Np

Thanks for deep dive info

[little flax]

lol at how much refining there is in the elite deep dive

at least you get to surf pipes

[fresh robin]

This EDD has a lot of open space, considering its refinery and sandblasted corridors

[little flax]

I like the sand biome. So easy to dig in

[fresh robin]

I reckon this EDD is gonna be SUPER long

[zenith ember]

MORKITE

[fresh robin]

And with so much open space, Scout is recommended

[lunar linden]

Lowkey i might do the Rollercoaster achievement in this EDD since Doretta will mine the path and we got railings thanks to the liquid morkite well

[zenith ember]

HOLY LOOK AT THOSE MORKITE

[little flax]

you'd be amazed at how many pipe segments you need to get that damned achievement

You are better off going into a low haz mission and simply laying pipe back and forth across the cave to get it

[lunar linden]

Its not like i gotta construct them or anything

[drifting tinsel]

two minutes is longer than you think but it should be ridiculously easy on flat escort duty terrain

[lunar linden]

Just place them along the path mined by Doretta

[little flax]

depends

A good estimate is that every pipe segment is 1 and a half seconds

[lunar linden]

Actually its swarmageddon so maybe i wont

Cause swarms would just be spawning all the time

[drifting tinsel]

fire driller 👍

[lunar linden]

I think i'll run out of ammos before that

[drifting tinsel]

understandable (；・∀・)

[fresh robin]

Best to run AOE for swarmadeggon

[mystic horizon]

escort with swarm

[lunar linden]

Unless someone else wants to do this achievement too

[little flax]

best to run away, I think

[mystic horizon]

time to bring EM discharge stubby

and probably inferno breach

[lunar linden]

Wave Cooker and CRSPR

[mystic horizon]

actually would SD work better

[drifting tinsel]

i use plastcrete catalyst to handle swarmers since the "charging" phase is all you need to kill them

but volatile impact reactor is solid too

unless the swarmers are playing leap frog

[mystic horizon]

honestly i just need solid single target

that can somewhat double as CC

so im hopping between SD or BC rn

cause EMD stubby should maul the swarms so long as i always have a sentry ready at my feet

[drifting tinsel]

yeah shard diffractor is probably the more solid choice for that but i am a very biased shard enjoyer

just a bit ammo hungry ( ＞Д＜；)

[little flax]

there is almost never any reason to not use shard diffractor

[mystic horizon]

i dont have any good shard OC besides ET

so

[drifting tinsel]

what other OCs do you have?

[mystic horizon]

i phrased that badly

i dont have any other OC

[drifting tinsel]

efficiency tweaks carried me for a long time, i'm sure you'll be fine lol

[little flax]

even without it is solid

[fresh robin]

Would like to ask, how do you usually fire the weapon using VIR?

[lunar linden]

Shoot the ground simulator

[drifting tinsel]

depends on the situation, if i'm being chased by a smallish group i just draw a straight line connecting me and the group of enemies

[mystic horizon]

see swarm, beam a line between you and swarm

[little flax]

That's just me when I enter a mission with a few drinks in me

[drifting tinsel]

if it's a large swarm i do sweeping motions like you're using a broom

[mystic horizon]

thats how i imagine you’d use it

[lunar linden]

Its almost like using minelayer, sticky fuel and ice spikes

Look at the ground

[mystic horizon]

rn i might run

[drifting tinsel]

yeah it's basically sticky fuel for engi

[mystic horizon]

whats that OC that turns the warthog into a machine gun again

i forgot the name

might run that with ET SD

good CC with solid single target dps

for normal DD atleast for elite im bringing my go to build

[clear slate]

oh boy double dose of OSR on the EDD

[little flax]

I did Drak + AV and Boomstick + Double Barrel for last week's DD and I think I'll do so again this week.

[mystic horizon]

on second thought i am bringing SD for both dives

i am not dealing with duck and cover without SD

[drifting tinsel]

i somehow forgot about duck and cover (；・∀・) idk how well base SD will work with it since duck and cover gets pretty insane on higher hazards

i think breach cutter with stun + plasma trail would suit that better, works well for escort too

[cyan birch]

''Thank you for giving me a better angle to shoot my nuclear warhead at you and your bretheren, now die''

[little flax]

duck and cover starts insane and gets worse from there on high hazards

[mystic horizon]

i mean it is on the haz 4.5 so with a good team it MIGHT be managable

[drifting tinsel]

everybody gangsta til the entire acid spitter population pulls up to the EDD

[little flax]

It could be worse. it could be on the escort mission phase

[mystic horizon]

if it was on escort i’d straight up not do elite

[little flax]

We had that in the deep dive a few weeks ago

[mystic horizon]

swarm on elite is somewhat managavle

[little flax]

it was a nightmare

[mystic horizon]

EMD stubby should tear them apart

or VIR SD

[lunar linden]

It was easy cmon

Duck and Cover is not that hard of a modifier

Spitters have negative health

You look at them and they die

[little flax]

that's webbers. Acid spitters have a bit more

[drifting tinsel]

perpetually teleporting menace has entered the chat

[mystic horizon]

im debating if i should bring lure or SSG

[lunar linden]

They are still extremely squishy

[little flax]

Always SSG

[lunar linden]

How is that even a question lmao

[mystic horizon]

i’ve had alot of good runs with lure

[drifting tinsel]

lures are so goated for a stock grenade

[mystic horizon]

shrug

ssg is good yeah but overall for the elite its a bit questionable

[little flax]

swarmageddon, go with SSG

[lunar linden]

Its always SSG

No matter what

[mystic horizon]

alr

[lunar linden]

40 seconds of drones that constantly do dmg is unmatched

[cyan birch]

Yeah it's kind of unfair how good the drones are compared to every other grenade engi has

[mystic horizon]

40 is questionable cause dont they implode after 12 strikes?

cause sometimes my SSG just kinda vanishes almost instantly when i toss them in a chaotic situation

[zenith ember]

it dies at a fixed time, prob went somewhere else

also lure is good with setup

[lunar linden]

No?

Wait

[mystic horizon]

odd could’ve sworn i saw that stat somewhere a while back

[lunar linden]

Maybe yes

[little flax]

I think they may break after a number of hits because I've had them die early before

[lunar linden]

It is 12

[little flax]

but still, that is a lot of damage they are doing in that time

[mystic horizon]

i guess i’ll bring em cause my scout friend’s bringing pheromones

[cyan birch]

Yeah it depends on the situation, the point is that it has the potential to last a long time, not to mention they're meant for swarm clear, not single target as they have essentially infinite blowthrough

[little flax]

they'd easily deal with swarmers while you take a breather and get more ammo

[cyan birch]

Yeah, honestly they should buff the other grenades, maybe upgrade the lure so it has more of a cap on enemies, or make the plasma burster have a set trajectory

[zenith ember]

lure is better if the team knows how to abuse the killzone

but shredders' pop and forget is pretty nice

[jolly herald]

cycle overload

[mystic horizon]

ty

[jolly herald]

EDD looks interesting this week

could either be really easy or really hard if the morkite wells are grief

Escort Swarmageddon, meet shard VIR

this week might not be a walkover for once

[lunar linden]

Naah

Its gonna be chill

[zenith ember]

really easy, too much nitra to fail

[jolly herald]

meh the wait for a hard EDD continues

[zenith ember]

Lethal stalker might be an issue but eh

[honest bobcat]

Elite stalker when

[mystic horizon]

has anyone done the EDD yet

i’d like to ask how managable stage 1 is

[zenith ember]

uhh standard haz 5 duck and cover? idk

stage 1 refineries are pretty straightforward w a driller

[jagged badger]

what is this week edd?

[zenith ember]

pinned

[jagged badger]

i didn t realise mb

[shadow temple]

So much on-site refining

Thankfully it's sandblasted so maybe it's not that bad

[lucid frost]

how bad can the terrain be, surely..?.

driller regardless

[mystic horizon]

wait

why was my EDD

not on site refining

what

oh wait it changes

ok

??

friend hosted EDD and it became normal DD

[winged sluice]

This dde sounds so easy

[drowsy solstice]

lethal enemies on haz 5 is gonna be fun......

tbh rest of the deep dives do look pretty ease except for that

[eager atlas]

it's rich atmosphere so it should be fine

[lucid frost]

slight piperiding accident

[solemn anvil]

this weeks edd was pretty rough ngl

and got terrible overclocks, woo

[untold quail]

shot a flare into the ceiling just to see a bundle of 15 acid spitters stare straight at me

fun

[mystic horizon]

me and my friend basically

went through trauma

in that EDD

holy shit

the second we realized we should have brought single target dps over aoe on stage 1

[untold quail]

aoe is better there

[mystic horizon]

not on our run

we had constant praetoreans

with not much way to deal with them

literally first swarm was a prae swarm and my friend basically ran for his life

if it wasn't for a random gunner joining we would've been screwed

stage 2 we hung on with like a thread, betting on doretta killing the heartstone before she combusted

[tiny marten]

this week's edd was a walk in the park

[mystic horizon]

😭

[tiny marten]

i join a team that was asking solely for silver promoted dwarves and i joined before reading the description, they were about to go super tryhard cause they were missing last dive apparently from what ive understood, but it was super clean

[mystic horizon]

besides stage 3 that EDD was rough for me and my friends

[tiny marten]

do you stack iron wills vampire field medic on scout yada yada?

[mystic horizon]

yeah and that was barely keeping us upfloat

[tiny marten]

damn

[mystic horizon]

we clutch iron willed on stage 2 and had to basically bet on doretta

payed off and had a cake walk of a stage 3

[tiny marten]

oh wait

nvm, we finished one haz5+ doretta mission at 0% on doretta and i thought it was during edd when you said that but it wasnt

[mystic horizon]

the only time i thanked the gods for the mactera grabber snatching me cause it prevented me from getting mauled and doretta managed to beat the corestone

[tiny marten]

i remember it was pretty chill

[mystic horizon]

wait not

oops

heartstone*

[tiny marten]

but then what happened? you lost on stage 3?

[mystic horizon]

no we had a cake walk of a stage 3

cause we accumulated a ton of nitra

[tiny marten]

so you cleared the whole thing, it was just that you had drama?

[mystic horizon]

only issue was maybe a lethal stalker that showed up and bullied our driller

[mystic horizon]

yeah

stage 1 was a nightmare of ammo management, stage 2 we barely won and stage 3 we curbstomped the mission

[tiny marten]

i havent even read what that thing does aside from hiding, havent played this game since early s04 i think

[mystic horizon]

it goes invis and well stalks you

well it sucks at stalking cause it makes really loud sounds and it takes quite the bite out of you when it appears

• it disables shield regen temporarily on bite

also immediately burrows away after attacking

[lunar storm]

Bro....

This EDD

stage 1 is killing my soul

[lunar linden]

Its duck and cover come on

Get a Cryo driller

[crystal lodge]

This week’s EDD is like, super long, took 40 minutes to complete first and second stages, unfortunately crashed on the third stage

[lunar linden]

Easy peasy

[lunar storm]

its less the duck and cover

more the ridiculous pipes

[magic wren]

https://youtu.be/ZGV9ZB6f8dM?si=s3O5qWKBF8cb0GQi

Whoopss, sorry, wrong channel

[flint widget]

That EDD stage 3 looks like its gonna suck

[mellow cradle]

nah

rich atmosphere

[gusty spindle]

the normal dd is real quick this week

took like 35ish minutes solo

[lunar linden]

this dd was so full of nitra

i dropped 15 resupplies last stage

[atomic nacelle]

Gsg commented to

[fringe token]

Same it was my first too : D

[cursive escarp]

im ngl i hate the first part of the edd😭

[onyx dirge]

Yeah, first stage suckies

[cursive escarp]

WOO

completed this weeks edd😭

holy hell man

last weeks was cake compared to this😭

[wraith shard]

Finally a fun EDD

We had so many consecutive brain rot EDD's that it was starting to feel dreadful

[cursive escarp]

i mean no doubt it was fun as hell that first stage felt like d-day getting out of the drop pod

[wraith shard]

As a gunner main you have the shield which is an op defensive tool

It shouldn't be that much of a problem as long as you utilise it and dodge properly with dash

[cursive escarp]

yea i just ended up learning to dash straight away after the landing

most people still tended to stay in pod though

[wraith shard]

Spitters and projectile enemies have very low HP, engl should be able to clear them easily from afar

[wraith shard]

Yeah you get massive damage reduction inside the pod, it is fine to just leave though tbh

[cursive escarp]

also cryo cannon went crazy this week

wish i had one of the better ocs for it though

[wraith shard]

Our driller had flamethrower and did a good job aside from nuking me with c4 twice accidentally

Had 3 deaths, 2 coming from him lol

[cursive escarp]

😭

my first few runs were rough ngl

had a gunner grief us during the first run cause one of teammates "stole his ammo"

[wraith shard]

My condolences

I had greenbeard teammates but they were nice so it was fine

[oak marsh]

If you can spot the mactera swarm right when they spawn fatboy has to be the best

or scouts voltaic stun sweeper.

damn in edd we have to do 2 full morkite pump missions? thats brutal

[hollow citrus]

Does anybody know if industrial sabotage is still possible to get as a main objective on deep dives? I haven’t seen it in a while so I think they might’ve removed it.

[vague lantern]

the second pump mission, which is stage 3, is pretty easy and even a sigh of relief after the first two missions that put you through different kinds of hell

or maybe it only felt easy because i was playing as if it was as hard as the two previous stages and killed everything when it really wasn't even half as bad

somehow i ended up with 700 kills as gunner vs 600 from the engie

[drowsy solstice]

god nearly wiped in the normal deep dive bc of dumbass gunner shooting the stage 3 betc without clearing the room first

[vague lantern]

you guys had a betc?

oof

[drowsy solstice]

lots of just not communicating in general

[vague lantern]

that's what i call al lack of team mindset synergy, when the teammates just dont mesh together well

it happens sometimes, and it's rough because it kind of cant be fixed without just finding new teammates or talking it through afterwards

thankfully this doesnt tend to happen with more experienced players that better know what they're doing

[eager atlas]

that has a limit of targets, though I don't remember how big mactera clouds are normally
If you don't miss, cryo is the better grenade for that

[vague lantern]

This might sound bad (or something i cant think of a word) but honestly i think the best strategy for this one is mostly just to gather a team of players that can play their class competently

[drowsy solstice]

^^^^^^^

no that makes total sense

[elfin mural]

I think the limit is 8 or 9? So that can probably clear most base Haz 5 Mactera swarms, presuming it doesn't go haywire and attack the random group of 3 swarmers 15 miles away

[drowsy solstice]

the best games ive had have been from teams who understood their assignment

no trying to crowd out others skill sets, just sticking to their own lane and letting themselves shine the brightest in that role

[vague lantern]

exactly, you just perfectly encapsulated the meaning of what i was floundering to say

lmao my brain kind of gave up for a while after i finally won

[elfin mural]

Happens to the best of us, dw

[oak marsh]

Lately the litmus test has been begging people who havent played the update to get off dotty when the shells start spawning

[drowsy solstice]

I'll probably just run the edd tomorrow, the dd tilted me as shit

ended up just leaving the edd cuz I was just out of it

[oak marsh]

I just did that with all white beards was pretty easy

reg DD

[drowsy solstice]

haha I did not

I'll try and take my engi with turret arc into the edd, that way we have some area defense

[oak marsh]

I love micro conductor engi on pump missions

i put a plat under every link

[drowsy solstice]

its so funny

esp if you have another engi

just electricity everywhere

[oak marsh]

I use the stationary breach cutter spin Overclock with stun on it too. Thats also good for macteras it makes a fly trap in the air that stuns them

[elfin mural]

How bad is the DD/EDD this week lol

[oak marsh]

DD i say easier than last week.

Not motivated to do EDD TODAY

[elfin mural]

I mean it is only day 1 so you have time

[oak marsh]

I just unlocked all the overclocks so now have 7 cores to go through

blank

start aquiring the swag

[drowsy solstice]

its all ive been doing

just swag acquirement

[elfin mural]

Yea, I got all the weapon cores ages ago and then season 5 happened

I got all 3 Gunner OCs today so I'm happy

[gloomy dome]

What's the ehp of grunts in max level difficulty?

[gloomy dome]

I can't one shot body shots on grunts anymore and my mods for the pump are ammo and armor break

[vague lantern]

grunts have like 108-ish hp on haz 5 with 4 players

technically if you go by numbers alone you should be able to one shot a grunt on a body shot, but the thing about shotguns and multi-projectile weapons is that every pellet is its own individual projectile and so the pellets that hit but dont break the armor are still affected by the armor

armor break on shotguns is essentially worse than the armor break on any one-projectile-at-a-time weapons

now i dont know enough about armor to calculate whether it could withstand a pellet from that build so i won't say for certain whether that's the reason or not

[vague lantern]

depends on how competent your team is but it's quite difficult

[gloomy dome]

I thought bullets with armor break now ignore amor, or light armor DR

[gloomy dome]

Also, i know 108 is the ehp of grunts in haz 5. I should've been more specific and said haz 5+

[gloomy dome]

Not sure. But wasn't there a change to improve armor break mods

[gloomy dome]

Cuz there is a slider for "Tougher Enemies" so I wonder what the EHP of grunts be at +2 and 4-man scaling

[balmy skiff]

when do dive wipe?

[gloomy dome]

Wipe?

[balmy skiff]

weekly deep dives

dont they rotate

[gloomy dome]

You answered yourself. They change weekly

Oh, day

Not sure didn't care when they do. Ain't it monday

[novel shale]

check pins

[gloomy dome]

#deep-dive-discussion message

Thursday nights for me

Damn I forgot cuz I alrdy have all OCs

[balmy skiff]

What day

nvm ty

[gloomy dome]

Read my linked msg lmao

It says what day for you

[fresh robin]

damn I was not prepared to face a HUGE amount of stationaries in the 11st stage of this EDD

[brazen swan]

FOR ROCK AND STONE

[eager atlas]

they don't ignore it, that's why armor break has a value in the first place, they just do more damage to armor, but you still need a certain amount of damage or armor break number to break it consistently, the warthog doesn't reach that normally, I think it does with pump action OC and armor break mod but that's it

the armor break change from february was something related to projectiles that weren't hitscan iirc

[gloomy dome]

Maybe i misremembered it

[gloomy dome]

But thinking about it, it was probably the aoe armor break fix too

It’s been a while I’ll have to rewatch lazymaybe’s breakdown again

[eager atlas]

yep

PGL's projectile crashed on the armor and didn't deal damage to the bug before

so hyperprop was actually kinda bad if you hit armor

but now it goes through properly

[gloomy dome]

That is maybe why I assumed armor break mods ignore armor DR now lol

[honest bobcat]

They might ignore armour, if they do enough damage to break it in one hit
AB also gives armor penetration, the shot that broke the armor doing 100% DMG to the bug

So if your weapon consistently OS armor, AB will basically ignore it

[willow oxide]

this weeks EDD is rough

[lucid frost]

"wait, did he say floating rocks?"

[fresh robin]

Yeah, it was quite long

[gusty grotto]

I havent managed to beat the second stage of this EDD

ive attempted it 3 times now

[jolly herald]

what are you struggling with?

escort swarmageddon means you want an ammo efficient way to deal with swarmers - either VIR shard, ECR LOk1, lightweight cases breach w/ plasma or stubby micro conductor

with stage 1 being duck and cover i'd lean toward the VIR, ECR or maybe breach

telling your gunner to run larger shield for doretta helps a ton on haz 5 escort as you can cycle resupplies for shields and repair iframes to keep her alive through each stage

obviously one way to make an escort easier is to pre-drill, if you have the time/patience

[gusty grotto]

this gonna sound cringe but its my teammates lol

I get a level 27 scout and a russian with 200 ping

always going down at the omorran and then I get overwhelmed very quickly

i should start hosting

[jolly herald]

Not at all, almost every edd lobby I host I'll get someone with 1 promote trying to get a carry. I just do basic intelligence test before committing and that normally results in smooth runs

[gusty grotto]

I should start hosting too, weed out the people tryna get carried.

[jolly herald]

Don't mind a carry if they respond to basic questions and can read but miss me with the non responsive scouts that don't flare, ignore platformed nitra and pull eggs during a swarm etc

[rose shore]

a genuine question, does the swarm get bigger if such a trigger happens?

like taking out an egg during swarms

[jolly herald]

pretty sure egg swarms are unique and can happen irrespective of current swarm

ofc you can't go above bug count so sometimes its worth it to pull multiple eggs and stack swarms but this isnt always the right play

[civic yoke]

when is one guy is not that bad, but when is the whole team you end up as a babysitter doing the main objective while ur team has no fucking clue what's going on and keep dying to a slasher lol

I have seen this happen even with lv 100 players and u wonder if they really learned something

[raven carbon]

If someone got to level 100 just on hazard 3 they might not be that good

On EDDs

Above 200-250 it usually gets reliable

100 may or may not be

[civic yoke]

some people just don't get it and keep trying until they get a carry while they go down 20 times on a level

we try to be nice but u just become a burden

[tiny marten]

how was this week's edd

[civic yoke]

haven't played it but I usually have no problem, I do have like 2k hours so I can't say shit

[tiny marten]

i have 140 hours played and it always goes smooth, tho it has been sometimes in the past before i took a break that ive seen some ppl doing some things i wouldnt be able to so welp

[civic yoke]

yeah I took like a 8 month break once cause I wanted to play other games and I couldn't even do a haz 5 mission, had to go back to 4 to get comfortable.

I still remember I got deleted by that elite mactera

3 times

[sharp shuttle]

what is this edd

[hollow edge]

hell

hdd

[atomic glen]

oh yeah theres times where i go into EDDs and im just left stunned watching level 100+/gold promo+ players that absolutely fail at things i consider relatively basic

one of the EDDs with sabo at the end we had a max promo driller who kept saying they know how to do the c4 strat and just couldn't do it

[vague lantern]

i used magic bullets neurotoxin splash bulldog for effortless and efficient spitter and swarmer clear

i even outkilled the dps engie 700 to 600

and that was with me always focusing stingtails praetorians and oppressors, this week's edd is tough

so essentially i came up with a build that handles all bugs in the game frighteningly effectively

jetfuel homebrew with high long range dps and armor break and stun and efficient ad clear as my primary

[civic yoke]

most people doesn't even know you have to build c4 at full damage since it is faster and stops the caretaker from using the beams attack, they usually bring 3 or 4 even tho you still need a full resupply to take the vents down, that and when you take a resup it doesn't round up so it still gives you 2 c4 if your build has 3 slots.

[vague lantern]

having 3 c4 manes that it does round up to 2, because resupplies only refill half

which means you get more c4 damage per resupply if you take 3

[atomic glen]

yeah much faster to just be able to kill it in 2 which is the important part

[vague lantern]

and more c4 damage per 'ammo bag' with 3

mathematically

[vague lantern]

the issue is it takes two resupplies then

[atomic glen]

max damage makes the vent phase last less than five seconds which is what's important, not necessarily ammo/resup efficiency. the driller ideally has their own resup

[vague lantern]

which it always does i guess

so never mind me

i usually fill in the gap with he grenades because a lot of the time a teammate is mooching off of my nearby resupplies too lmao

[civic yoke]

you still need the full resup, and we are talking a out the caretaker strat

c4 is the only exception on rounding up, the game round up all Ammo when you take a resup

don't know why tho

[vague lantern]

are you saying that with 2 c4s it gives you two per resupply or?

[civic yoke]

no, if you take 3, it gives you 2

it should round up to 3

it doesn't

[vague lantern]

are you for real?

half of 3 is 1.5 which rounds up to 2

one does not simply get all their ammo back when resupplying

[civic yoke]

game round up odd numbers

[vague lantern]

1.5 rounds up to 2

2 out of 3

[civic yoke]

even the wiki mentions it.

so

[vague lantern]

why would it ever round up to 3?

[civic yoke]

cause 3 is an odd mumber

[vague lantern]

imagine you get all 252 rounds of your lok-1 back when you resupplied

[rare citrus]

Has anyone done the elite deep dive code name: clean bed?

[vague lantern]

@vinx i don't understand your logic here

[civic yoke]

yeah I think we are no I the same page

[vague lantern]

indeed

[vague lantern]

yup, it's really tough

[rare citrus]

What were the missions

[vague lantern]

duck and cover refinery and 2 resonance cystals first stage, but it starts off with a nearly handcrafted death trap of like 5-6 spitballers in a circle on high ground around the massive pit that is the spawn with the escape route being a mile long drop. the second one is an escort with a single morkite well, but it's swarmageddon and the enemies can quickly overwhelm an unprepared team. the third stage is quite chill compared to the first two, a rich atmosphere refinery with no bad hazard, a true respite after the hell you've survived.

[civic yoke]

bassiclay the game rounds up all odd numbers of ammo, if you have 3 as full ammo(just an example), the resup gives u half, but since you can't cut a bullet in half it gives you 4

I think that's the best way to explain it

[rare citrus]

Holy shit

[eager atlas]

you keep increasing the number and I have no idea what you're trying to say

If you have 3 max C4, you get 2 with each resupply.

[civic yoke]

yeah I'm terrible at explaining this lol

I just know that the game rounds up, and c4 is an exception

[vague lantern]

you mean since 3 is cut in half into 1.5 it rounds up to TWO right?

you know how math works right?

there's no way a game like this is coded so incorrrectly that it cannot round to an odd number

[eager atlas]

if game rounds up, and c4 rounds up, then c4 is not an exception

[vague lantern]

that's some tf2 level spaghetti code

[eager atlas]

they made it round up since february

[vague lantern]

fine go resupply some c4 with 3 max ammo

see if it takes you from 0 to 3

i challenge you

[eager atlas]

what

[burnt sandal]

C4 used to get only 1 back when resupplying with 3 max

now it gives 2

hope it settles the whole argument

[civic yoke]

a

[vague lantern]

is that what he means?

[thin lynx]

with programming, unless you specify that there is decimals in play

[civic yoke]

I didnt know lol

[vague lantern]

man that would've sucked

[thin lynx]

it rounds to highest number

[burnt sandal]

yes

[eager atlas]

he's saying it goes to 3 though...

[vague lantern]

i started playing drg after that era

[thin lynx]

if total is 3 you get 2 per resup

[vague lantern]

this here is the point of contention

[eager atlas]

programming languages truncate when going from floating numbers to integers, so it would all round down

[burnt sandal]

not what I've read, it was just very badly explained, and probably missing a word or two

[civic yoke]

yeah I think i fucked up lol

[burnt sandal]

all good

[vague lantern]

all good

[thin lynx]

yeah just a numbers problem

[vague lantern]

sorry, something about my brain can't let go of something if it's nagging me

[thin lynx]

half of 3 is 1.5 game rounds to 2

[civic yoke]

you know I was good at math in college, maybe I was just lucky

[thin lynx]

to increase FUN value

[burnt sandal]

funnily enough, the game does keep track of decimals, but only for minerals, and damage

[thin lynx]

i dont understand why tho for minerals, 0.1 nitra seems kinda dumb to me

[vague lantern]

the game be like: that pile of nitra chunks over tehre was made up of only 0.1 sized pieces

[thin lynx]

crust

[vague lantern]

yeah they could at least round to 1 if the quantity is below 0.5

[civic yoke]

anyways just take 2 damage for sabo strat, is faster

[vague lantern]

or rather round to 0.5

idk

[vague lantern]

if you're willing to take two resupplies per phase then yes

[eager atlas]

then you could create more nitra than there is

[vague lantern]

yup, i mean tround up to 0.5 or something

lol my bad

[eager atlas]

back to the sabo, as engineer I just take turret EMD for the vents since I can't be sure my driller is gonna C4 the top

[vague lantern]

wait what?

[eager atlas]

you can turret EMD the vents

[vague lantern]

what's the range on that?

[eager atlas]

in fact it also hits the caretaker eye

[vague lantern]

also, emd doesnt have that high of a dps does it?

[eager atlas]

4m? 5? don't remember

but just put both turrets on top and shoot them

it does 60 damage

every 1.5s

[civic yoke]

yeah I remember watching a video about that, never tried it I forgot

[eager atlas]

or every 0.75 since you have two turrets

[vague lantern]

i swear that means that the c4 would blow the platforms away which means that you cant do both strats

[eager atlas]

just keep shooting them

[civic yoke]

top 10 build for sabo 2014 updated

[vague lantern]

huh

[eager atlas]

you place the turrets before the C4, when the caretaker is booting

even if the platforms are blown up it doesn't matter

turrets float

[vague lantern]

normally i just use overdrive booster to melt the vents one at a time if need be

[eager atlas]

I rather hyperprop to completely one shot bots and other stuff

but yeah overdrive is good too

[tiny marten]

this week's edd is no joke xd

[lunar linden]

public lobbies EDD players try not die within 1 minute of entering a stage challenge (impossible)

[lament lantern]

How does that compare to c4/fatboy?

[exotic belfry]

Takes much longer, but doesn't need a dedicated resupply. Generally better to use C4, but if you don't got a driller its a solid choice.

[lament lantern]

interesting

(though let's face it you normally do have a dedicated pod per person in sabotage)

[eager atlas]

Did EDD solo as driller, hardest part was doretta, the new ommoran phase is terrible solo, and flying rocks are terrible for driller

[broken comet]

is it normal to only gain maybe half a season level after the edd?

[eager atlas]

according to the wiki, 22K xp would give you 1800 performance points, so yes

[rich sigil]

tried my first elite deep dive today

what the FUCK

[broken comet]

thats pretty whack. if i did 3 separate levels id get more experience. seems like bad balancing imo

[eager atlas]

well deep dives are meant to be for cores, rather than farming xp/money/other stuff out of them

[rich sigil]

ok but special powder is genuinely REALLY good for the first mission of this week's edd

besides maybe cryo minelets I'd argue it's honestly the best scout overclock for that mission specifically

[sand juniper]

Just cleared both dives for this week. EDD stage 1 has one of the hardest spawns I've ever seen. Thankfully stage 2 is pretty average and stage 3 is extremely smooth with the rich atmosphere mutation (you don't lose that much time taking care of the pipes).

[prime pewter]

embarassing time

the start of the EDD really fucked me over

[sand juniper]

It's the hardest part of the dive.

[prime pewter]

like 3 infectors and an artillery and a vartok wth the worst terrain ever

also i still suck at escort

[cursive escarp]

lowkey

i dont even mind the barrage infectors in the deep dive

its those

septic spreading things that are getting on my nerves😭

[eager atlas]

turns out the real enemy was carrots

[solar skiff]

this elite deep dive is harder than the last 3 elite deep dives ive played combined

[lethal igloo]

3 fails so far, all on ommoran :(

[tiny marten]

with randoms?

[lethal igloo]

yes

to be fair, our scout & engi both dipped one the third one

[tribal isle]

god damn this is a harsh one

[velvet sundial]

I mean this week's Edd is mean

last two edds were a cake walk

[velvet sundial]

same

the infectors don't start with los to you after all

[tiny marten]

you just have to have your driller drill the moment gates open

and generally first round navigating through tunnels is bis

clear these little fuckers upstairs and get done with it

no ammo waste no health waste, fast and efficient

[velvet sundial]

predrilling eh

some people say it's against the spirit or whatever but I'm not redoing the whole dive to preserve dubious spirit

[tiny marten]

my sanity lvl not staying stable is also against my spirit

[velvet sundial]

word

[tiny marten]

i only did 2 runs, first one we died on first mission, 2nd one we died last phase of doretta, i wont redo unless it's a full clear, no charities with randoms this time around xd

i dont wanna relive that first stage every time i wanna finish it

[sand juniper]

Can confirm, did this myself as driller.

On stage 1 that is.

[sharp cradle]

How's the EDD this week?

[lunar linden]

terrible with randoms

dont bother

people dont know how to play Duck and Cover

[sharp cradle]

We just aborted to try again

lmao

[tiny marten]

it has a rough start

[sharp cradle]

And the scout double dipped

Nope

Fuck man I have no friends

I guess I'll just wait til next week

[tiny marten]

imagine scout double dipping in that situation, i even let my guys double dip

[lunar linden]

use lfg

[jolly herald]

Are you on pc? I'm going to run it tonight

[jolly herald]

You're not wrong, the number of people just standing out in the open is wild

[sharp cradle]

Yeah

Guess i'll be on tonight then

[slim furnace]

explosive chem saving dwarfs since its released

ended the edd with 1.7k kills lol very fun run unlike last week

[quaint locust]

That edd start is rough
So many stationarys
Duck and Cover is very tough for solo driller

[sharp shuttle]

the first stage should've been the last ngl

and vice versa

[rose shore]

completed the Normal deep dive with 600 excess nitra

mactera plague is so easy with the crossbow, a spawn or a tri-jaw will die with one ice bolt, hit the goo bomber with a pheromone arrow and see the infighting

i also saw a bet-c in the 3rd level

gonna try the edd later, sand caves huh

[rose shore]

kinda in the name...
you can't duck though XD

[cursive escarp]

it is genuinely a gamble imo

also im gonna be honest

somehow soloing it was faster than with randoms lmfao

probably the fact that i dont have to revive someone every 30 seconds

[cyan birch]

Well 4 players means more enemies and more damage, and it'll only go as smooth as solo if everyone pulls their weight, which is less of a probability with 3 other people that you don't know rather than if you're solo and you know that if something goes wrong it's your own doing

[cursive escarp]

true...

[rose shore]

true as a solo scout, you can literally spend no ammo and run around most threats...

any tips for this EDD?

ending with an escort is evil XD

wait escort WITH swarmageddon??? how can i deal. with an army as a scout???

[cyan birch]

Fire/frost bolts, shoot them at the ground and watch swarmers dissapear

[rose shore]

I do have cryo bolts... getting enough nitra while baby sitting Doretta Will be hard

[drowsy solstice]

edd finally cleared and yeah pain

ammo was at a premium

duck and cover into swarmageddon can eat my ass

solid engi and a driller with sludge pump kept us alive+me with hurricane

[drowsy solstice]

you cry about it

I say this as a scout main

cryo nades+special bolts help

but thats about it lol

or take Drak

Zhukovs are also nice

[rose shore]

recently made the exploding reload oc, I've yet to try it out, been busy experimenting with the cross bow

[drowsy solstice]

Embed let's you one shot nauts if you also take born ready

You shoot, move to primary, let born ready reload, and do that a few times

Then reload manually and watch it's lifebar dissapear

[rose shore]

i wanna try that later XD

do that with the damned care taker

[static scroll]

anyone else had trouble with this weeks edd?

last few have felt easy then there is this

it took me and some randoms like 3 tries to get past the first refinery mission

but once we did it was pretty standard

[civic yoke]

it can always be worse, we have seen some terrible elite deep dives that really test you

at least the biome this week is nice, unless u get a sandstorm while fighting mactera lol

[elfin siren]

How do i check what the current deep dive is

[burnt sierra]

you can check pins i think

[elfin siren]

Oh neat

Thank you Hornet with sunglasses

[lethal igloo]

woo

finally cleared edd on 5th try

still randoms

[hardy wigeon]

God elite deep dive teammate play like they have pea for a brain

Only need to go to drop pod

On 3rd stage

But keeps insisting on reviving

Im fucking pissed istg spend 1 hour and 30 minute on it

Saved their ass 10 time on 3rd stage and they wont resupply at 10% hp even tho we had 5 sitting supply pod (they only resupply when low ammo)

This is my first edd run but fuck hell even ik basic logic

Was using gunner

[crimson iris]

Sir, I'm not sure autism means what you think it means

[hardy wigeon]

Im just pissed nothing agaisnt autism ill just edit that

[crimson iris]

Driller and I were playing "c4 chicken"

On the final stage midswarm

[hardy wigeon]

What is c4 chicken

[crimson iris]

Driller puts down a c4

And I, the scout, try to hop in and out of the radius without being blown up

Scout has to trick Driller into blowing up the c4 and missing, and Driller just has to blow up the scout with the c4

Final stage was annoying

Cause I'd blink and there'd be an explorer on me in half a second

[hardy wigeon]

Bru

Sounds fun

But i wont do it on edd cuz

Strezs

[iron crypt]

oh man this week edd got hands, lethal enemies stalker nearly wiped my team

stage 1 duck and cover in an open cave was tough too

[sour geode]

I love the sharp contrast in elite deep dives

had one a while ago where we just had 10 fucking supply drops by mission 3, and this one is making me wanna fatboy the nearest glyphid egg patch

[frosty brook]

somebody wanna play deep dive?

[eager atlas]

the #928582985559736360 channels are probably a better place to ask

[lunar linden]

Just abuse NTP

[fluid aurora]

the pumpjack spawns are so ass

our engi and driller left 1 minute into duck and cover

took 25 minutes for that stage alone

then we wiped to escort because escort

[rigid turtle]

Yeah. A friend and me had to try a few times because the chat wasnt read a few times by randos. Just started Doretta instantly.
Best way to do the escort is to completely predrill to the Hearstone and take out all the spitter/scalebrambles along the way.

[eager atlas]

that doesn't sound very dwarf-y

[solar skiff]

nvm we just had a REALLY BAD spawn on first stage and a level 15 greenbeard wasnt the most help either

[lyric zenith]

stage 1 landing is rough, you land high up, easy to rush out and fall to your death, or straight into an infector

made it past stage 1, 2nd try though got up to the heartstone but 2nd phase entombments just killed us, and i don't think we had enough solid firepower to beat back the swarms

[vague lantern]

oddly enough i found the third stage to be such a normal mission compared to the first two that i felt that it was easy

[solar skiff]

2 barrage and 4 spitballers as soon as we leave spawn, definitely not fun

[acoustic skiff]

Yeah the deep dive this week was utterly brutal

I got through it on gunner with autcannon/neutoroxin overclock, starting to see why people say that one is the best autocannon one

I feel like whenever you do anything to do with hazard 5, theres suddenly like 5 spitballers, 2 barrage, 2 bramblebacks, and maybe a leech or two per level

[hardy wigeon]

our is pipeline mission and morkite

but someone suddenly press call for drop pod when havent healed yet

then hell let loose

[lunar linden]

NTP does make mobs slower, they flee for a while and only come back when they're almost dead

It makes deep dives trivial with decent teammates

Especially Duck and Cover since you 1 tap web spitters and acid spitters survive at 1hp

[spark pebble]

I completed the Deep Dive Elite in 3... https://steamcommunity.com/id/6534986756342/screenshot/2540676374460125585/

very easy

[soft current]

https://imgur.com/GtZ53YO

Survived... somehow

This elite deep dive was harder than the previous ones

[fallow basin]

having to deal with swarmageddon and duck and cover in the same edd is pretty tough

[outer reef]

When did the dives get updated?

I know its one a week

But what day I forget

[lunar linden]

3 days ago

[whole estuary]

Any advice on clearing elite deep dive this week? I keep just trying to play with randoms but both groups keep wiping at defending loretta. Are groups typically better if you find them here in discord? I've tried going as sticky fuel driller to control the hoard and then I tried going as PBM gunner to trivialize the boulders/big bugs but both groups still get overwhelmed

[outer reef]

Ah I think I did that one then

[outer reef]

What my team did was pre drill for escort and that helped a ton

Then we did the extraction, then the escort

[whole estuary]

we tried that too on the 2nd attempt and I agree that was pretty nice

[outer reef]

Did you still fail?

[whole estuary]

it's mainly just gettin a group that can survive defending her at the end is the problem

[outer reef]

Ah

[whole estuary]

i thought we were all chill and then like literally with 10% of the obj left my whole team jsut dies it's so frustrating

[outer reef]

I mean duck and cover is probably the hardest one especially for dorreta from what I have experienced

[whole estuary]

I can understand that how some people just can't play constantly moving

but idk

i'd really love to not do these levels over again and again xD

[elfin cargo]

duck and cover is at 1st stage luckly,which doesnt have escort

escort has swarmgeddon modifier

[whole estuary]

tehy're getting wrecked by swarmageddon

yes

[outer reef]

Hmmm I must be misremembered them, or I did not do it yet

[elfin cargo]

swarmageddon was trivial for me when i decided to run driller

charged acid shots go brrr

but in my 5-6 attempts,the rock phase wrecked the run,that along the massive waves that brought anyone down

one thing i hated of this edd tho is the weird af spawn in first stage

[whole estuary]

it'd be nice if we had like clans/guilds built into the game so I didn't always have to roll the dice on randos. Maybe I need to find a small discord community to join?

[elfin cargo]

so many dwarfes (including me) jumping to their deaths

[whole estuary]

lmao

yeah PBM gunner is what i took my 2nd attempt

it's bugged it literally 1 shots the boulders

[shadow temple]

Yeesh, this week's EDD is the epitome of a "battle of attrition"
https://imgur.com/a/mLceEDq

Think this is also the first time I've hit over a thousand kills for the stat screen too

[elfin cargo]

user level is fitting

[shadow temple]

Ooooh right haha, just hit it too xD

Yea I'd say the second mission was probably the hardest, followed by the first mission and then the third

Even the third is unnerving with lethal enemies. You get ambushed by a single stalker attack and you're suddenly at 15% HP from max 💀

[rose shore]

WTF AM I LOOKING AT?

30 acid spitters BEFORE THE 1ST WAVE?

[humble harbor]

so

[rose shore]

I stop and i will die, to help with that all 3 refiner are on the other side of a mountain i need to mine across for the pipes

[rose shore]

so? what can i do if a sandstorm happens or even worse i need to resupply??

[humble harbor]

press m1