deep-dive-discussion

[sudden cipher]

i am heading to stage 3 now

[maiden pendant]

godspeed comrade o7

[slate lodge]

for this week's EDD black box defense was kinda easy for me except half of us got blown up by a detonator glyphid near the end

[maiden pendant]

creepers 💀

the normal DD black box was easy too, go figure

black box is a deep dive ender for scout unless ur insanely good

[slate lodge]

also we barely had any nitra on the box defense which probably lead to us dying on stage 3

[maiden pendant]

ah yeah, that'll do it

[sudden cipher]

omg its elite threat

literally in hell rn

[slate lodge]

in that run i was a gunner running NTP

[maiden pendant]

oh nooooo

gl

still waiting to get NTP

[sudden cipher]

i have 39 nitra, depending on how good my eyes are might have enough for 2

[maiden pendant]

do you have a scout?

sounds like ur solo

[eager atlas]

mules give you nitra

[sudden cipher]

im with bosco

[maiden pendant]

ah yeah

[slate lodge]

EDD's stage 3 cave is a hell hole

[maiden pendant]

nitra and morkite spotting without scout sucks balls

sorry am i allowed to say that?

[sudden cipher]

yes we can swear

[maiden pendant]

epic

[slate lodge]

there's an elite praetorians with a lot normal ones and a spreader covered by a lot of ranged bugs

[sudden cipher]

66 give me a hint, where am i supposed to go for the mules

[slate lodge]

we died in the first minutes of stage 3

[slate lodge]

idk we couldn't get past 1st cave lol

we just died in misery

[sudden cipher]

im about to get jumped by the welcome committee

[eager atlas]

light upgrade bosco, best upgrade

[sudden cipher]

theres a hooli horder in here

[maiden pendant]

hoard it quick

[sudden cipher]

real elite deep dive hours
#drg-gallery message

[eager atlas]

you can mine it down, but yeah that's painful

[random rampart]

<@&296918282403840000>

[solar dune]

need a teammate for a deep dive

asia server

[random rampart]

#lfg-steam #lfg-playstation #lfg-xbox-microsoft

[lone stratus]

How do I chat elsewhere?

[jagged idol]

I've still never tried a deep dive before but I want to solo it for my first time but is there anything I need to do before doing that?
Pretty much all I know about it is that nitra carries over for the entire duration you play

[lone stratus]

I can look at other places but I can only talk here but I don’t want to I want to talk to psn friends

[jagged idol]

#welcome-and-rules Go there

Pick a role

[lone stratus]

Be very efficient with your time, make sure that you have a solo build when you go in you don’t need the revive perk for a solo run. And just do the objective and get the hell out of there. The longer you wait the more ammunition you waste and the less resources you have for the next level

That’s about all I have for advice. Oh and if you have iron will I believe you only get one use per stage. So three total but you really don’t want to have to use em if you don’t have to obviously

[jagged idol]

Thank you!

[jolly wing]

DD should reset by now

[drifting tinsel]

Happy Thursday, everyone! DD rotations have updated -- let's all have a great week!

DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Murderous Bluff
Stage 1: 7 Aquarqs + Morkite x150 | Haunted Cave
Stage 2: 2 Mini-M.U.L.E.s + Uplink + Classic | No Mutator
Stage 3: On-Site Refining + Morkite x150 | Parasites

ELITE DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Jagged Split
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + Black Box | Volatile Guts
Stage 2: 7 Aquarqs + Morkite x150 | Parasites
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + Black Box | Exploder Infestation

[violet mountain]

todays edd are pretty ez i think form the stages

[primal vessel]

i hope that no bulk will spawn at stage 3 when im doing blackbox in this edd

[sudden cipher]

my bulks spawned at stage 2 for me last week edd

[quasi frigate]

last edd we got hiveguard at stage 2

[primal vessel]

badluck i do not remember encountering bulk last edd

[jolly wing]

bulks? what bulks?

• a leadburster enjoyer

[sudden cipher]

edd 3 blackbox with exploader infestation tho

[primal vessel]

i can still manage to do that

probably

[sudden cipher]

tell me the secret to do that magic

[primal vessel]

gunner bulk killer

[real frigate]

step 1: use leadburster
step 2: throw leadburster under bulk
step 3: watch the fireworks

[violet mountain]

lol

[sudden cipher]

dang, I need to have accuracy in throwing? cant be me

[patent elk]

Both dd and edd looking chill this week

[jolly wing]

just try to land it under the bulk

[grand pasture]

Yay! No sabotage in the deep dives!

Got no problem with it being there, just I know if there was one, people would start complaining

[wraith shard]

how's this week's EDD?

volatile guts? sign me up

[jolly wing]

First try. We got wiped on 3rd stage

Lets just say, my dumb arse pulled out an egg at the same time, the black box started

Not to mention exploder infestation

[sudden cipher]

its always the 3rd stage where it all goes wrong

[real frigate]

Yoo hold up Disabled Inertia Inhibitor (5C) on PGL is kinda good actually. It's hella clutch to be able to pull off trick shots using your movement. So far I've mostly used it by pressing W and jumping as I fire to just straight send it

[bitter stump]

You don't
You just have to wait for the bulk to be aggroed on you
Then it's easy

[wraith shard]

Karl please grant me an EDD where it's not 1 greybeard (me) and 3 greenbeards

😭

that EDD was a struggle with my teammates going down left-right and centre but we done it nonetheless

[valid ginkgo]

Condolences.

[primal vessel]

looks like edd for this week is tough for us greenbeards

[valid ginkgo]

Hmm, just a suggestion, what you could do is host haz 5 or join haz 5 lobbies often. And if there's any dwarves that pass the vibe check, try to add them. I've pretty much done this over the years and have a lot of friends with varying skill levels. So sometimes I carry, sometimes speedrun EDDs.

I had a team with graybeards for this weeks EDD and it's a breeze since we all know what we're doing.

Sadly, I can't just add anyone on here since they're mostly NA or EU. And either of us will lag so yeah.

[primal vessel]

for real, i got a buddy who is a graybeard and im bothering him to help me out in this week edd 😆

[wraith shard]

a team of experienced dwarves is good but sometimes a bit of a buzz kill imo, i like a challenge

either way this week's EDD is a tough one, work well with your fellow dwarves

[valid ginkgo]

True. But very good if I don't have any time to spare for the week.

[wraith shard]

yeah sometimes ya just wanna rush through it, I get that

[misty maple]

you'd love playing with me then, it'll be a big challenge

[bitter canyon]

edd was a breeze

[charred oasis]

What the fuck lmao just loaded into the EDD and got last weeks????

[charred oasis]

Yep must be an issue with the game cuz I got the same shit happening again with the regular one

[burnt sandal]

sync your system clock

[tiny dagger]

Wait wait wait

The system clock

affects the edd?

you can I can go many edds back??

[unique ore]

you can even change your current missions, its also synced to your system

[tiny dagger]

god damn

[drifting tinsel]

the weekly refreshes only apply after you restart your game -- if you try to do the new week's dives but you opened your game before the second the weeklies refresh, the game will still register the dives as the one from the previous week

i found out the hard way :P

[slim heath]

how do you promote to even be able to deepdive?

[random rampart]

level a class to 25, do its promotion assignment, and then promote at the terminal in the back of the memorial hall

[slim heath]

thx a lot

[misty maple]

how's this week's edd compared to last week?

oh also shrek if you want to chat in drg-chat, grab a role from #welcome-and-rules

[slim heath]

this might be the wrong chanel but idk where to ask this but how do you unlock new weapons?

[slim heath]

thx

[tiny dagger]

assignment terminal

you will get weapon assignments as you level up a character

[tiny dagger]

I'll go beat it and come back

[slim heath]

i dont have any assigements for a new gun

[misty maple]

what level are your dwarves?

[slim heath]

my engeneer is level 16

is that too low level?

[tiny dagger]

you should have the breach cutter assignment

but it's recommended to grind to lvl 25 tbh

definitely get the breach cutter though

it's way better than the PGL

[whole mural]

I think u need lvl 18

[slim heath]

well i dont have that assigement

all i have i a asigement for a helmet

[whole mural]

yea dont do that just do quick missions for xp until lvl 18

should get it

[slim heath]

ok thx

[slim heath]

i dont see where i can grab a role

[misty maple]

i would send a screenshot but i dont have image perms

just scroll to the very top of the channel and then scroll down until you see the class roles and the platform roles

[jagged rapids]

Under PLATFORMS, click the emoji for the platform you play on
Under ROLES, click the classes you play

Also <@&296918282403840000> super random but the gunner emoji is not showing in ROLES

[misty maple]

yeah it's been broken for a few days

discord being discord lol

[jagged rapids]

Huh

Ok lol

[burnt sandal]

we're aware

and there's nothing we can do about it

moderators don't handle bots

[jagged rapids]

K sorry. I hadn't looked in a while so thought it just happened

[jagged rapids]

Ohhhh, good to know

[hidden venture]

goddamn discords a mess.

i open my inbox, SEE the message, CLICK IT....and its gone, and it takes me to the next last message i received.

[jagged rapids]

Yea the new mobile app update isn't too great either

[burnt sandal]

a discord of this size slowly shift toward entropy

[hidden venture]

then i have to manually come here

[little kite]

Hi

[random rampart]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role to get access to every other channel

[spiral badge]

Everything moves from order to chaos

2nd law (?) of thermodynamics

[molten vessel]

Do you get the same amount of matrix cores from elite deep dives?

[old widget]

Same as normal deep dives? Yes

Rewards are basically the same between DD/EDD. Slight bump in the fixed XP/gold reward for completing EDD

[wraith shard]

do you guys do the EDDs first or the DDs

i do the EDDs first

[vague grail]

DDs

[final urchin]

another one with ghost, glad it wasn't fighting dreadnaughts

[light ice]

Fighting dreadnaught with a horror chasing you was an absolute nightmare

me and the randoms i was with were playing at 110% for that

having a small fighting area did not help too

[thick gorge]

How come i can chat here but not normal drg chat

Where is the roles channel

[rough radish]

#welcome-and-rules

[thick gorge]

I figured it out

Found the role thing in welcome

No gunner role though, and only me and one other person selected the xbox role apparently

[rough radish]

used to be no driller either, we making progress

i think the actual answer is just the bots bugged, u can ask a mod for whatever role

[thick gorge]

Oh

Makes sense

[rough radish]

the platform role should work i think thats what lets u type in general

[thick gorge]

Discord bots can be finicky

[thick gorge]

Yeah i selected xbox and now i can type in the normal drg chat

[rough radish]

ok cool. also the union bot is even buggier than the other, I dont think it works at all anymore

[chilly shore]

ive given up on trying to get the union to work

[tiny dagger]

why did you even try..

it's literally broken

[molten vessel]

What's the best way to beat this weeks EDD solo?

[wraith shard]

pray to Karl

idk, i've never done a deep dive solo

i like the company

[grand pasture]

Is this legit confirmed? I have an EDD back in February I wanna try again

[median steppe]

rock and stone, I don't know exactly where to write this, but I can't download mods, although they are subscribed to, who has encountered this?

[grand pasture]

#modded-drg-chat is the place I believe

[jolly wing]

Try that mode with low oxygen 3complexity/length on radioactivr exclusion zone

We almost did it but got got on 3rd dread fight

[wild harness]

Rock'n'stone, miners. Who knows, what mission in deep dive now?

[eager atlas]

check pinned

[wild harness]

Tx

[frank viper]

Ah yes having a driller that bunkered the blackbox with exploder infestation

Nice way to lose the EDD

[real frigate]

repellant additive or expanded ammo bags? For deep dives specifically

Repellant is really really good but ammo bags lets you stretch those plats further for mobility

[eager atlas]

It's very rare to run out of ammos for mobility, you might run out if you're making a ceiling in salvage or something, but you can do the same with less platforms and the repellent will prevent bugs from going through there

being able to modify pathfinding of bugs is very strong

[real frigate]

True. I'll bring repellant

No reason not to bring it more or less ever

And moreso

It's fun

I like doing janky ass shit like that

It's why I play Engineer

[shadow temple]

Aight just soloed the EDD (Gunner: LSLS, BRT7 LS)

Stage 1 is ok, it's not difficult in itself but it was very hard to find nitra given the biome's dark environment. Only managed to retrieve 125 nitra, but didn't call down any supply pod so it's still an advantage

Stage 2 is, imo, one of the hardest Aquarq stages the game could throw at you if you're going in for the first time. Cave is abnormally big for this stage, and there's seemingly very little nitra. Of course, 4 huge veins of nitra are all clustered somewhere in a cave near the very top of the map which I only managed to find since my drop pod landed there, so that's just the map trolling me I guess. Keep your eyes peeled because Morkite and Aquarq blend very well in this biome.

Stage 3 has one of the hardest black boxes as well due to the mutator and the enemy spawns. Endless swarms of normal and mutator exploders, trijaws, mactera spawns, wardens, and stingtails make it very hard to stay in the zone without getting absolutely demolished. The nitra's much easier to find in this stage. There's 1 egg guarded by 2 leeches at a corner so make sure to look up

Oh right I forgot! There's a jet boot crate located up the tunnel where the black box is located. You might wanna grab that, it definitely helped me with the black box to dodge the exploders

[eager atlas]

with 3 players that's a triple leech, not sure about 4 players

[sudden cipher]

what blackbox + exploders does to a person is illegal

[hearty geyser]

4 players it's still triple leech

[zenith ember]

can confirm, was the top left egg in that small corner

cave for 2 was huge af, but cave 3 was really small for a bb + 6 eggs

[hearty geyser]

stage 1 of EDD is also very poor in nitra in general. Both runs I did I only got 153

[zenith ember]

my bb was in a good position though

ye s1 can be tight, but 4 eggs shouldnt take too long

but relatively fast edd, not complaining

[hearty geyser]

it was pretty chill compared to last week's, managed to help a bunch of greenbeards in their first EDD

got a random bulk during stage 3, helped a lot with the black box

[vestal sapphire]

we got absolutely blasted by stage 3 spawn

couldnt even get our bearings and then 300 exploders and trijaws + that ledge

[low plover]

5.5 welcoming committe be like
this is the hardest moment in this stage tbh

this EDD was chill by general, and imo you can do that <45min challenge here

[nimble prairie]

How are solo deep dives balanced? Is solo DD considered easier or harder?

[languid mulch]

In DRG, you rock and stone
In Minecraft, you diggy diggy hole

[patent elk]

Less enemies spawn along with less health and damage

I think

You also get Bosco which is a big plus tbh

For some it might be considered easier if they can handle swarms by themselves

[copper ruin]

idk how should this weeks EDD be done considering there is not more than 40 fucking nitra combined on first 2 stages

[shadow temple]

Also depends on the missions for the deep dive, but u are gonna have a much easier time if it's aquarqs and eggs

So yes, that also means this week's EDD is a lot easier solo....ok, well, in my opinion at least

xD

[hearty geyser]

there's at least 153 on cave 1, and cave 2 has plenty

[shadow temple]

Cave 1 has a bit but it's quite hard to find

Cave 2, most of the veins are at the top of the map

Don't be like me searching 80% of the map and finding nothing, while 20% is where it all is

[copper ruin]

yeah unfortunately the caves are as vertical as can be

[hearty geyser]

cave 3 center well is rough, tho

[shadow temple]

Cave 3 definitely had some of the easiest to find nitra of the 3 caves

But to compensate, it's hell on earth...or I guess hell on hoxxes

That black box was...real rough, even solo

🫠

[grand pasture]

Really? I didn't have so much trouble

[shadow temple]

I think that would boil down to the slight RNG of the spawns

Cuz I got like 2 oppressors, 4 stingtails, 2 wardens out of view and god knows how many trijaws, on top of a seemingly endless swarm of exploders

Staying in the zone was actually near impossible, but those jet boots coming in clutch

Tho thinking back to it, I'm sure a cryo driller would have held quite well for this EDD

Neutralising those exploders would be a godsend, and also so many eggs and aquarqs to dig out. I think he would have been a much better choice than gunner

[grand pasture]

Makes sense

[grand pasture]

@burnt sandal Your thoughts?

[slate lodge]

i just did EDD with randoms and we were so close to dying each stage

we finished 1st stage with struggle on black box (haha funni bulk detonator go brrrrrrrr) , on 2nd stage only 1 dwarf survived evac and on 3rd stage we almost died during 1st swarm

[elder locust]

Ive only done 1 or 2 dd in my entire drg career

[burnt sandal]

on what ?

[grand pasture]

Some guy came in and copy pasted some weird stuff idk, wasn't sure if it was allowed but other mods dealt with it

[craggy violet]

Anyone wanna do the edd on playstation? Can't seem to find anyone playing

[tiny dagger]

#lfg-playstation

[solar willow]

Yo

[tiny dagger]

before you ask, if you want to chat in the other channels you have to read the rules and get a role from welcome

[jagged rapids]

From the #welcome-and-rules channel they mean

[jagged rapids]

Sadly I think it's just timing. Saw ya posted but I think many are at school or work at this hour in US. At best you could catch some late players in EMEA region

Like both players you tagged posted 6+ hours ago

For example, I'm US West Coast so I won't be online for another 3-5 hours since it's only noon rn

[craggy violet]

Yeah i get you

I need to spread the word of rock and stone in the EU

I'll be back on in like 3 hours

[mortal shore]

hay do any of you guys know what overclock you get on this weeks deep dive

[hybrid ridge]

hows the refining stage 3 DD? is a driller necessary?

[random rampart]

overclocks arent fixed for everyone. theyre random for ever player

[burnt sandal]

And you're banned

[small violet]

guys if i redo a deep dive i can get new rewards or not?

[tiny dagger]

Only gold and EXP

[idle charm]

can anyone tell me why i cant text in #drg-chat ? and a couple of other chats, "you do not have permision" it says

im new

[misty maple]

you need a role from #welcome-and-rules

[idle charm]

ok thanks

[misty maple]

yep there you go

np

[jagged rapids]

Rewards are once per week.
But you get rewards for BOTH deep dives

[shadow temple]

Doing it atm, you don't need a driller, but your pipes have to take a rather long-winded road if u don't have one

[hybrid ridge]

yeah i got it done awhile ago as engy. i just dug a small tunnel connecting the two rooms

[spiral badge]

If there’s refining and you’re doing a team, always good to make sure there’s 1 driller

[harsh linden]

edd hard

[jagged rapids]

Curious what ya struggled with? Maybe we can advise?

I personally recommend a cryo driller as he basically negates all of the 3 modifiers (I think that flame or sludge is better for parasites tbh but cryo prevents them from even spawning on kill so still my preference)

As for stage 1 and 3, it's honestly more of a race than anything. You likely want to do the secondary FIRST if you don't have a great team bc black box can be terrible when paired with point extract bc of the way swarms become more frequent over time. So it can brutal trying to do black box after having spent the first 10-15 minutes on just aquarks

Also @harsh linden watching USteppin videos used to sometimes help me with dives when I was a young greenbeard. He just posted his solo run of the EDD today:
https://youtu.be/Dy6S6IA49Vk?si=NvwxxYkLC_KiV_Y4

I don't really recommend focusing on his builds, they are sadly a bit stuck in time and haven't changed in the 2 years I've followed but the way he plays is super important. How he moves and evaluates every threat / swarm. The builds part is something that will start to come with experience or just using other channels, he is not a channel for builds. He goes for hardcore things like 6x enemies or solo elite dives

He's great at what he does, and that is not build guides 😅

[shadow temple]

I endorse the recommendation

Personally brought gunner, but after the whole ordeal....cryo driller definitely would've been much better

[jagged rapids]

Our gunner brought neuro thundercannon and something something coil. As expected, he definitely carried on keeping the team alive. Neuro was nice for the splash dot on s2 and the Fear+DoT for s1 and s3. Knowing me tho, I would've just been running my usual minigun with magic bullets bulldog (just my default build that gets me thru most any deep dive/mission)

Not sure what I would've brought if I built something tho. Probably would've gone with my usual but might've tried neuro thunder with elephant round bulldog or high damage brrt as that's my second build for gunnie but I'm definitely not a build smith. I just play what works / feels good for me at this point

Wow... Why are all my posts so long today? Imma sign off lol. Night fam

[maiden pendant]

i started a deep dive after changing my outfit

i didn't realize it changed my loadout and i'm running a greenbeard set bc of it

it's really bad but my team is ignoring me when i chat

idk what to do

i asked them if we could go back at the very beginning and nothing

we finished stage 1 and now i'm committed

idk what to do ;-;

this sucks so much

[maiden pendant]

they said they're just bad at using chat, we're finishing the dive

[low plover]

don't panic! It happens even to best, just stick with team and do your best

[maiden pendant]

yeah, it went really well

the first fifteen minutes were a real struggle, but i got used to it 😅

[low plover]

Ghost bulk sucks :D
GG in finishing DD!

[sudden cipher]

I belive in you guys, you can do it!!!!

[sacred nebula]

how to unlock the vocal chat

?

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick roles

[faint crown]

what are dd stages this week?

or where can i look

[sudden cipher]

pinned messages in this channel

[tiny dagger]

WTF this edd can be QUICK

i'm going to speedrun it

since it's 2 egg missions and 1 aquark

i wonder if it's possible to beat the world record

[patent elk]

What's the world record?

[tiny dagger]

7-9 minutes i believe

[cinder citrus]

It is 6:29 for the fastest edd

[wheat gull]

wow, haven't had a deep dive that bad in a while

[delicate saffron]

this edd was so boring

[tranquil charm]

Hello!

[onyx dirge]

Heh, I can die much faster than that.

[spiral badge]

2 mins per stage? How?! 🤣

Factoring in the time usually takes for the drop pod to hurry up and arrive it’s even more nuts

[wheat gull]

Speedrunners are built different man

Probably just sprint at each egg/aqarq and mine them, finish each stage with single-digit kills

[eager atlas]

drop pod doesn't take too long to arrive

molly takes too long to get to the pod

but there are ways to get in without waiting for molly

you only need 1 person in, the others die

may want to watch the thing https://youtu.be/9IWHw7oZJB0

[crystal prism]

Yo, just a question, is there a point to doing deep dives more than once a week? Do you still get cores for repeating deep dives?

[gleaming blaze]

no

[eager atlas]

you only get cores once per week on each dive

[crystal prism]

Sad

[eager atlas]

you still get credits and xp

[gleaming blaze]

if you wanted to play for time or if you like the format better, otherwise normal missions are better

[crystal prism]

Gotcha, thanks guys

[eager atlas]

well from the conversation above, if you can do the elite dive in 7 minutes that's 20K xp faster than normal missions

[gleaming blaze]

the most mentaly intense XP grind of all time

[wraith shard]

i thought deep dive was some sort of big boy run with cave length and complexity 10

[eager atlas]

that'd be cool

[wraith shard]

Deep dives are like hazard four points five at the last mission?

Not too bad and with a decent group elite dives aren't that bad either

[sudden cipher]

I just had my breakfast

Time to do the EDD

[jagged rapids]

I just got a 35 min run and forgot to take a screenshot. I think that's my second best time (terminal says best is 31). Feels good getting closer to 30 without trying. Eventually will try to but y'all be doing some crazy time save stuff. I'm a simple dwarf

I think animation cancelling for reload and mining are my only tricks so far. Still mastering the driller axe throw but absolutely can't figure out the faster pickaxe one

And I'm not even sure if the droppod glitch works on console. Either that or I'm just terrible at it

[tiny dagger]

Faster pickaxe works when you're close to the host or you're the host

Else you get more time loss

[chrome shale]

is detonator guarenteed first mission of elite?

[left lava]

Can someone help me. This is the only chat I can post in. My question is not DD-related.

[unique ore]

#welcome-and-rules get a role

[left lava]

thanks

[nimble root]

aye im new here where do i go if I want to find a party for an eliet DD\

[jagged rapids]

Ahh, gotcha. If I'm hosting, Is the mechanic just the same as reload cancelling

[eager atlas]

last mission is 3.5 for normal, and 5.5 for elite

[eager atlas]

the pool is seeded, so they can spawn in the level, whether you get 0 of 20 is just rng

[eager atlas]

probably the #928582985559736360 channels

[sudden cipher]

I found some jet boots in stage3 of edd

[unique ore]

static spawns like that are generally dependent on number of players, or just random

[woeful mantle]

Anyone wanna play

[rare crater]

Y'all how do I type in other channels

It won't let me

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick roles

[rare crater]

Thanks

[warm lark]

is anyone playing from spain rn?

[burnt sandal]

#fan-communities

[oblique lion]

Just failed the last mission on standard deep dive by managing to connect two pipelines to the same pumpjack

[wraith shard]

That's possible?

Kind of funny

No offense

[oblique lion]

I was watching the randoms build towards the same place and was trying to indicate towards the other pump, and then they both connected them at the same time and we were so confused

[elder locust]

I did a dd with some of my friends last night and the first attempt was so bugged, my friends couldn't see anything and were trapped in the droppod hole, I, the scout was able to escape however one of our objectives was aquarq extraction but the pod fell through the map

[sudden cipher]

Must be a weird desync issue? At least it happened on stage 1 of dd and not in stage 3

[elder locust]

Yeah true we just redid it lol

Everytime I went into the drop pod hole on every stage I started glitching through the ground but my grap saved me

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules

[gleaming blaze]

this is a fun EDD

[low plover]

Bro 💀
There should be a proximity lock, like, pumpjack will await for the pipe from the pipeline with nearest node placed or something
Good thing it was DD and not EDD, Id get ultimately pissed to lose 3rd stage due to softlock

[wraith shard]

Я недоразвитый😂 🤣 😅 🤣

[burnt sandal]

#fan-communities

[wraith shard]

да я такой

спасибо

[wispy raptor]

.

[random rampart]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role if you want access to other channels

[spiral badge]

Wait, that’s 1) possible and 2) no way to undo it? 😬

The game should let you disconnect one if multiple are connected to the same pumpjack, that’s really weird. But I guess GSG didn’t think anyone would do that

[mental crystal]

i only found 27 nitra (+ the unaccessible nitra at the roof of the start) in the first EDD stage
i don't want to do this week

[eager atlas]

it's kinda hard to see without a scout, there should be around 150 in the first stage, there's some in the starting room in one of the pillars

[mental crystal]

i restarted about 4 times because of lack of nitra as a scout, switched to engi for no reason at all, and that's it

i checked every inch

[harsh ledge]

On the wiki I saw that deep-dive missions are pre-seeded, does that mean that you always play the same one?

[exotic belfry]

Every week they change, so everone has the same weekly dive

[harsh ledge]

That’s cool

[sudden cipher]

are the static spawns also the same?

cuz i found jetboots in this weeks edd stage 3. twice

[exotic belfry]

IIRC, anything that is predetermined is the same, but some things are based on player count, or alwayse have some level of RNG.

[sudden cipher]

or was this just rng luck?

ah

[exotic belfry]

Jet boots should be about the same place every time, since they are based on the seed. So if you found one, everyone will find it in about the same location

[patent elk]

Gee how lucky are we. Hey <@&296918282403840000> you want first dibs?

[stone timber]

why do I not have permission to speak on the general chat?

[random rampart]

#welcome-and-rules read and get a role

[stone timber]

thanks bro

[shadow temple]

I assume you aren't using Bosco, but on the off-chance that you just completely forgot about it, it can help you mine that unreachable nitra

On my end as a gunner, I only grabbed like ~125 nitra from the first stage. There's not a lot and it is reasonably difficult to find. I can tell you that for the second stage, try looking for nitra near the top of the map. There's like 3-4 big veins at a certain area, which will help you a lot if you didn't manage to find enough nitra from stage 1

[plush minnow]

current EDD is really rough. we tried 3x just to beat stage 2 but then got demolished on stage 3 and gave up. granted, one of our players was a total noob, but i expected me and my partner to still be able to finish it just the two of us. we weren't able to

we duo both DDs every week, this was our first attempt at a full squad EDD and it was torture

[jolly wing]

What were yall playing as ?

[plush minnow]

everything but driller. 2 engis

[gleaming blaze]

we had our scout dip during stage two, and our driller hadn't trained himself to feel primal fear at the merest hint of the exploder sound, so he went down 8 or so times in the last stage, but our gunner and my shredders got us through

[jolly wing]

First attempt of this EDD,i made a blunder which cost a run on stage 3

Pulled an egg at the same time black box started without me knowing

The egg spawned an announced swarm which eventually we got overwhelmed

Second run was smooth sailing playing as driller

[vagrant shale]

this is terribly relatable

[shadow temple]

Lowkey why we do a ready check for the black box

. w.

[vagrant shale]

100%

esp EDD black boxes, they're a special kind of hell

[shadow temple]

Yup

This EDD's black box is definitely a special kind of hell if the spawn RNG isn't nice to you

Some got it somewhat okayish...meanwhile the game decided it is fair to throw 2 oppressors at the same time for me

[unique ore]

I thought the black box was pretty easy since it was in a tunnel (I think, cant remember), easy defense chokepoints, and oppressors are easy to deal with if you have a gunner shield or cryo driller

[thorny gull]

@slate roost can you share a nuke with this guy?

[burnt sandal]

they're already dead

[thorny gull]

👍

[tiny portal]

You can actually fail secondary obj blackbox without failing the mission in deep dives, just make sure its not a primary objective

You can just start it up again after

[unique ore]

pretty sure black box can't be primary objective

[burnt sandal]

correct, it's replaced by the setup of salvage instead

[tiny portal]

As part of mini mules primary duh

[eager atlas]

static spawns are mostly the same
things like jetboots should be fixed, but static enemies like spitballs, nexus and leeches vary with player count, I've also seen them vary with the same amount of players so they aren't perfectly consistent, but still mostly the same

[jolly wing]

Yea we know, but it was already too late since exploders wiped our team simultaneously

Tried to pop IW, but oppressors and shellbacks kept moving our team

[wheat gull]

Oh nooooo I just gave the EDD a try with the wife but one of our randos made a big whoopsie on stage 3.

https://tenor.com/view/dog-so-close-reach-golden-retriever-gif-11658775

[marble bison]

completed my first Deep Dive ever, in solo

I can feel my beard graying out

[vagrant shale]

omg grats!!!

[marble bison]

1 hour and 44 minutes to do it, shameful 😂

[eager atlas]

the only shameful thing is not trying

[marble bison]

unlocking overclocks is a slog though :\

[wheat gull]

Welp, guess I've gotta try to solo EDD now. XD

[wheat gull]

Nah, unlocking OCs is a happy accident. 😄

[marble bison]

me while chosing the loadout

https://tenor.com/view/theodoros-gif-19920606

[eager atlas]

randoweisser and deep diving it is

[lunar terrace]

https://giphy.com/gifs/H7XYWhQCtS5qRdqu08

during this current EDD. lol. crazy overachieving leech

we normally record all of our POVs, so sometimes it is nice seeing funny stuff like that from different POVs

but anyways that EDD was not bad at all.

[wheat gull]

Stage 3 seems the most dangerous. When I tried it with the missus earlier we wiped trying to defend the black box. An engi got overzealous and buried the box with catastrophic results :S

[sudden cipher]

any drillers in this weeks edd would be a bro and bring cryo for the exploaders

[eager atlas]

Just amazing

[wheat gull]

My god that was brutal. Molly was absolutely determined to sabotage stage 3 lol

https://tenor.com/view/the-summoning-bad-cat-hitting-broom-gif-10352523

I just wanna deposit the eggs fam. SIT DOWN. STAY. NO, STAY. BAD GIRL.

[hybrid fossil]

it's time to play "find morkite in azure weald"

[sudden holly]

[wraith shard]

I cant talk in the other channels

please help

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules

[wraith shard]

which one

[burnt sandal]

what do you mean which one ? Read the linked channel.

[wraith shard]

there is rules voice chat roles which do i read ?

[steel sky]

any advice for one's first deep dive

[hearty geyser]

Be careful with your resources and you'll be fine

[steel sky]

What about team comp
do I just wait for a group to join or should I ask around on here for one

[hearty geyser]

Either
Tbh, if I don't have a group of friends to do it, I just open a public dive and go grab a coffee while a few people join. But you can always send the invite in lfg channel

[wraith shard]

Bro I rad everything and I didnt found anything about my problem

Or now i can talk

[hearty geyser]

In terms of comp, having one of each dwarf surely helps, but it is manageable with any group

[queen stone]

man, the Aquarq gathering is rough with a fast Ghost while playing solo

[celest charm]

Team comp doesn't really matter

1 of each class is obviously the best and most well rounded

but aside from 4 scouts it doesn't really matter what your team composition is

so long as you can individually handle the difficulty

[bitter stump]

4 scouts also works as long as you have a pheromone and fire source

[gleaming blaze]

4 scouts is a very different game plan from the rest, but it does work

[fossil iron]

Ox God, EDD stage 2 so awful. I hate point extraction so much. Give me instead a cave evry millimetr of which filled with rockpox, and I'll be a happiest dwarf on Hoxxes.

[bitter stump]

Point extraction wasn't too bad
It was more a case of 4 of the aquarqs were hiding in some random side cave that I saw early on

I hated trying to find the morkite though

[queen stone]

i suffer every Aquarq hunt i must waddle through

[wheat gull]

The aquarq caves feel weirdly repetitive to me. I think I'd like them better if the gunner zipline was less bad, though.

[restive moth]

hey question, so deep dives are like hardcore mode right? just tried my first one and absolutely got my face kicked in

there a way to see what special effects there are for them or whatever? just had some weird cloaked enemy just brutalize me and that was the main issue

[random rampart]

there is a list (that gets updated every week at the release of the dives) that shows every mission, along with types and mutators. it is in here and/or in #deep-dive-speedrunning iirc

but mainly in here

check pins to get to it

[restive moth]

oh so its a weekly thing then

[random rampart]

dives get refreshed weekly yes

every thursday 12h utc

[restive moth]

so what happens when somebody does it, are they locked out for the remainder of the week, or can they keep re-playing it?

[random rampart]

it can be replayed

you can get the reward only once per week per dive mission

so 9 cores total

(6 from dives + 3 from weekly assignment)

[restive moth]

cores are for forging right? sorry, just absolutely no idea what its even about, just unlocked it and figured would give it a try before some ghost turd made me quit cause frankly i dont have the patience for him

[random rampart]

cores can come in 3 different forms: weapon, cosmetics and blank.

[harsh linden]

weapon matrix cores are used to modify your guns with interesting effects or just to make them more powerful

[random rampart]

weapon cores can be forged to make overclocks for the weapon it's registered to

cosmetic cores unlock the cosmetic they mention

[restive moth]

ok so yea it is the forge stuff then

[random rampart]

and blank cores are to be inserted into the infuser at the end of a successful machine event

(to be turned into one of the other two)

[restive moth]

ohhh

[harsh linden]

machine events are those grey boxes you see sometimes on missions that say something about a tritilyte key

[random rampart]

those are the infusers

[harsh linden]

theres several different timed challenges such as killing bugs with only your pickaxe

[restive moth]

yea those i came across before, just had no idea what they were actually for aside from XP

[random rampart]

the events are the constructs beside the infusers

[harsh linden]

yea sorry

[restive moth]

so how do you know if you have an "open" blank core?

[random rampart]

when you reach an infuser after a successful machine event, if the option to infuse a core appears its because you have at least more than 0 :)

another way is, in the space rig, to check the counter near your credits count below your name, level and rank

[restive moth]

i see

[hushed horizon]

how do i unlock vc permission ~~ in a game~~ on discord? evertime i join a pod and ask in game they kick me and refuse to explain to me how

[celest ruin]

regular deep dives have max difficulty of haz 3.5, elite deep dives go up to haz 5.5.

[random rampart]

wdym vc permission? you cant access voice channels?

or do ppl just kick you out of the match?

[hushed horizon]

i sorted it out all good needed to have roles

[restive moth]

I only heard of haz, no idea what it actually is vs normal missions like for the thunderhead I just unlocked

[celest ruin]

haz is difficulty

when you select missions you see what haz level they are

by how many exclaimation point emblems there are

[fossil steeple]

There's Hazard assignments which unlock a new Hazard level

Hazard levels are difficulty modifiers for your missions

They scale from 1 to 5, 1 being lowest and 5 being highest

You need to unlock haz 5

When you start a mission, haz level defaults to 2, but you can modify that to your needs

[eager atlas]

haz 4 is available by default

[chilly lotus]

And haz level do increase the rewards %, but its just a myth
You get a lot more rewards if you find and finished hidden events, crates, lost helmet

[eager atlas]

what

[chilly lotus]

Hidden events = machine events, data events, corruptor / meteor

[tiny dagger]

Hazard 4 effectively doubles the xp and mission gold rewards on haz4 idk what you're on about

https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Hazard_Bonus

[chilly lotus]

Correct, but also wrong because cave RNG
Also for greens, there's no points with that doubles rewards, if you losing haz 4 for straight 3 hours nonstop then winning it only once

[still geode]

Cave rng doesnt matter

[chilly lotus]

In greens perspective of course, everyone start as green

[still geode]

You dont get better or worse rng depending on hazard

Also my first mission in drg was haz4 and i won it so 🤷‍♀️

[chilly lotus]

Nice for you

Some ppls cant even got into haz 2

I can finished haz 6x2 with bosco, but a bad comparison

I hv found many haz 3s is far more rewarding than even haz 6x2 somehow
Because cant/no time to finished events + crates/lost helmet

But.. no challenges, so boring

Good for farming tho

[eager atlas]

haz level do increase the rewards %, but its just a myth
I don't see how that's a myth, and I don't see how extra stuff in the cave means that you need to play low haz, the two aren't mutually exclusive

No one told a greenbeard to play high haz, they just explained what the hazards are

[tiny dagger]

"there's no point to do high hazard missions because i happen to suck at the game" what is this logic

[tiny dagger]

this too

[chilly lotus]

I hv re-test my facts from gameplay experiences and data gathering over 1.7k hours
I hv no further correction
You can test that too

I will rest my case here

Haz 3-4 is good for farming
And above is good for fun and challenging run

[tiny dagger]

your 1.7k hours compared to the 10k hours people spent building the wiki with stats and programming they see in game

[eager atlas]

If you can't speedrun haz 5 then sure, grind haz4 or even haz3 if that's your thing, but haz5 will yield higher resources, that's not up for debate, whether someone can do it in a timely fashion is a different matter

[patent elk]

This is such bad logic since the biggest variable that affects your results is your playstyle. And that will never match up to the masses. I have less than half of your playtime but I can solo every mission objective with any added event on haz 5. That will always get me better results than doing it on haz 3-4. That doesn't mean everyone else can do the same but people should still try to improve till they can to get better and get better rewards. The game objectively and numerically does that when you complete missions on higher haz levels.

[kindred coyote]

plus dont machine events also get the hazard bonus

[junior pendant]

is it just me or I can't just find any morkite in stage 2 of EDD?

[shadow temple]

Morkite is okayish, but can be challenging given it is azure weald. If you're scout, lay off the flares for a while and look for any shine in the darkness...personally found it harder to locate morkite in azure weald if it's bright

[marble thistle]

Look high up. Most of it is really high.

[junior pendant]

I died :(

meh, Imma just cope and say I already have 10 extra blank cores because Ive already gotten all the weapon OCs and is just grinding for cosmetics, (still mad)

[copper ruin]

did i really just read someone saying a percentual gold xp and mineral reward increase is not a thing because "its harder on high haz" lmao

[bitter stump]

There probably comparing how long it takes for them to complete the mission to the amount gained for doing the difficulty

Which is subjective depending on your skill ofc hence why it's so amusing to watch people argue for it

[queen stone]

about to finish my first Deep Dive! just gotta get the Morkite pumps set up and gather some Gorkite

[queen stone]

i Had it

a Oppressor slammed me away from the pod and i got trapped

gonna be real chief. i don't wanna put up with that ghost Aquarq mission again

[spiral badge]

As you were leaving you got knocked away? Noooo!

Oppys can be real douche nozzles

[harsh linden]

i got elite diver :o

[somber notch]

Not the place to ask this question but I have no choice, why can't I message certain channels, like drg-chat, but can in others? How do I get permission to message drg-chat?

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules

[somber notch]

I did twice because I figured it must be there but I guess I'm stupid

[burnt sandal]

pick roles

[somber notch]

got it, thank you lol

[burnt sandal]

ded

[tiny dagger]

noo

i was replying with a troll reply

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

wait i can use gifs here? weird

[burnt sandal]

yeah

perms are a bit fucked up all over the place

[tiny dagger]

last channel i expected to allow gif perms

[idle prawn]

why can i type here but not in chat

is it cause i asked for upgrades to flares?

[burnt sandal]

it's because you didn't read #welcome-and-rules and picked a role there

[real widget]

[open canopy]

looking for a team for the edd

[hollow iris]

what time is the deep dive chage?

[eager atlas]

11 UTC iirc

the pinned message should show it in your timezone

[near jacinth]

hi

[remote sable]

Hello

[open canopy]

im all set now. gl anyone trying to get it in

[cinder citrus]

All 3 of you might want to get a role in the https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/354250235419164682 tab so you can talk in the other channels too

@open canopy @remote sable @near jacinth

[wide quarry]

anyone knows when the deep dive resets

[eager atlas]

literally a few messages above

[celest charm]

There's also the literal ingame clock

telling you when everything resets

[eager atlas]

I assume if they ask here it means they can't play right now, but yeah

[drifting tinsel]

not sure what happened to the bot here that would announce how much longer until dives refresh

[ivory marten]

Bot seems to be down.

[random rampart]

mission control has been given an extra set of work. he cant do everything at once, after all

[spiral bloom]

Im bad at discord it seems, why I cant talk on most chats and all I see in text window is a message telling me to visit this chat? :v

[cosmic aurora]

#welcome-and-rules

And pick role

[sly kettle]

Soon™

[drifting tinsel]

soon indeed!!

[spiral bloom]

Thx :>

[sudden cipher]

new dd lets gooooo

[drifting tinsel]

Happy Thursday, everyone! Weekly refresh is here, let's all be safe on Hoxxes!

Weekly Deep Dives information for 2023 December 14 to 2023 December 21
Deep Dives will reset <t:1703156400:f>
DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Open Mouth
Stage 1: 7 Aquarqs + 2 Eggs | Low Oxygen
Stage 2: 200 Morkite + 2 Mini-M.U.L.E.s | No Mutator
Stage 3: On-Site Refining + 2 Eggs | Rival Presence

ELITE DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Foggy Inland
Stage 1: 10 Aquarqs + Black Box | Elite Threat
Stage 2: 3 Mini-M.U.L.E.s + Uplink + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Hiveguard) + Black Box | Exploder Infestation

Happy Yuletide update as well! It's not out yet at the time of this message, but let's all have a wonderful holiday season! <3

[sudden cipher]

theres no good mutators on any stage 😔

[wispy hearth]

time to bring cryo driller to edd

[sudden cipher]

low oxy lmao

[plush lichen]

Not the first time it has happened

[wispy hearth]

at least its normal dd

[jolly wing]

Dang. Exploder infestation agai

On black box, too

[drifting tinsel]

this will be my first dive with rival presence! very interested to see how that goes haha

[wispy hearth]

exactly why im bringing cryo driller

[turbid dawn]

you can ignore the rival presence completely

[outer cloud]

black box is very easy to defend on stage 3, exploders won't be an issue

[marble thistle]

Had a rival presence on EDD stage 3 once (Salvage + Hiveguard). Rough.

[jolly wing]

i just played it. it was forgiving than the last id tell ya

[grand pasture]

No sabotage, thank god. Don't even hate it, just hate that everytime there is one, I'll come to this channel and it'll be filled with people hating on it

[jolly wing]

personally, i dont hate IS

cuz it gives me a good reason to bring oppenheimer in a tube

[turbid dawn]

there was a time when there was 2 IS in edd

[fierce beacon]

Is it fine if i go Public deep dives for my first time doing it?

i understand a Lfg is probably better but i want to see how it is first hand

[eager atlas]

yeah you can and it's probably fine, if you can do haz 3 there shouldn't be much issue

For the elite you kinda want to be used to haz 5 and some people may be averse to play with you if you still have low promotions, but even then the community is pretty welcoming and you can still find a group to do elite dives in public lobbies

[fierce beacon]

i see, ive only just gotten around to Overclocking

and ive only got 2 promotions, tryna promote each character atleast once. Driller and Gunner are promoted.

I find haz 3 fine so Ill try get used to haz 4 n 5

I understand i probably shouldnt waste ammo in ddives then

[eager atlas]

there's generally more nitra than you need, and since nitra carries over, it's usually not a problem. But that also means that using extra resupplies takes ammo from the later stages

honestly just jump into a normal dive and see from there

[still geode]

yeah you need to be considerate about when you spend nitra but you dont have to be stingy

often at the end of sabo or escort ppl drop all the resupplies for healing and such but thats not always a good idea in dives

[fierce beacon]

i see well thanks for the tips

[sand shale]

Anyone wanna play with me I’m new

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick roles, then head over to #lfg-steam or any LFG for your platform

[spiral badge]

“Open mouth” 👄

[warped quiver]

Is there anywhere where the current deep dive stage objectives are posted?

[burnt sandal]

check the pins

[warped quiver]

ty

[frail patrol]

stating EDD stage 2 is an uplink is redundant as mules is the primary

[drifting tinsel]

not all salvage objectives include the uplink part! this week happens to have it, while others don't

[unique ore]

if the salvage is the primary objective, it always has the uplink

[drifting tinsel]

ah, i see

i'm using the info formatter, and i paste whatever it spits out :P

i still personally think including the uplink part is handy. makes the overview a little easier to understand for me, but to each their own (* ´ ▽ ` *)

[wraith shard]

this week's EDD wasn't too bad

did the last stage with just 3 guys when our Scout had to leave

[spiral badge]

That’s just to make it clear as not everyone realizes whatever the first objective is is what determines the kind of mission it is

[hard pagoda]

are error cubes possible in EDD, cuz I saw one today and was surprsied

[hollow iris]

If you saw it Yes

[hard pagoda]

to think I get surprised even after 500 hours, love it

[balmy stone]

Presents have a very low % to drop error cubes during christmas and pumpkins during halloween iirc

Idt they spawn in edd terrain though

[shadow temple]

Yea keep doing that, not everyone knows that and it's just better to have it included for easier reference for everyone at a first glance

[paper fable]

Hey looking for a deep dive team! Anyone needs scout?

[sudden cipher]

My team just did EDD

[plain sphinx]

How do you get access to the pod chats

[sudden cipher]

read #welcome-and-rules and choose a platform role

[plain sphinx]

Thanks

[sudden cipher]

Our loadouts were lok1/fatboy, sludge VIM/epc, Autocannon/bulldog, mk1000/zukov ice mines

(gunner had no OCs)

[hollow iris]

I haven't try this week deep dives. Are they really hard?

[jolly wing]

In my experience, i only struggled stage 2

But its smooth sailing on the first and third

The black box in 3rd wasnt difficult to defend

[regal mica]

daym havent tried an elite

should i solo?

[patent elk]

Why not

[hearty geyser]

Cryo driller goes haaaard in this EDD

[spiral badge]

Normal looks fairly easy on paper

I’m definitely doing solo cause low O2 is annoying in co-op

Actually scratch that, realized Molly isn’t there so it’s fine

[solid haven]

fvck this stage 2 EDD brooo so hard i failed x5

[tiny dagger]

keep trying

[solid haven]

nah i skip it, pubs in asia too noob and they don't use Iron will -_-

[spiral badge]

Why don’t they use IW? I assume dash but what’s the other

[solid haven]

I dont know why, I always say it before we start to use iron will but they dont idk which active perk they using dafq

[vivid talon]

See you in hell is better

[burnt sandal]

they can very well use whatever they want, iron will ain't necessary

[vivid talon]

/s

[solid haven]

it is necessary lmao

[burnt sandal]

no it's not

[solid haven]

it is on EDD, only noobs who don't use it

[burnt sandal]

sure

seems the greenbeards for me are people who need some specific perks to use as crutch but what do I know

[solid haven]

how you don't know bout it, you must be a greenbeard welcome to DRG then

[tiny dagger]

iron will is useless 50% of the time because what killed the team will kill it after anyways

[tiny dagger]

blue level please

[solid haven]

50% useful okay

[burnt sandal]

don't start

[tiny dagger]

but

[solid haven]

you already did, welcome mate!

[tiny dagger]

i was lying anyways about 50%

[solid haven]

nah its really USEEEEFULLLLLLL very USEFUL!

I'd say 101%

[tiny dagger]

you're just trolling at this point

[solid haven]

Naah.. been playing thie game for nearly 3 years, I'm saying its really useful bruh 😄

okay Iron will 101% useful and must have in EDD and if you don't use it you're considered NOOB. Bye.
Share this message with your greenbeard friends! Rock and Stone!

[bitter stump]

Based opinion

[bitter stump]

Perk choice doesn't determine skill, know a ton of people who don't run iw and play miles better then me who does

[deft ore]

Are there things I should look out for on this week's deep dive elite?

[cinder citrus]

Iron will may be useful but it's still a crutch perk

[spiral badge]

I don’t think anyone is denying it’s a crutch

It’s just on high haz you never know what’s gonna happen

[solid haven]

show me a vid where you and your friends dont use IW in this current EDD I'll wait

[gleaming totem]

so I just found an error cube on stage 2 of this weeks normal deep dive. is that normal? (solo, no mods, it was just sitting on the floor next to some cave decorations)

[solid haven]

found it on stage 1 EDD when I pop giftbox

[gleaming totem]

after looking in bug reports seems they have a chance to spawn when you pop christmas gifts nvm

[solid haven]

video please on this current EDD or it never happen, no cheats or mods

[solid haven]

hey kid, show me a video of u and your friends or in pubs 4/4 without IW I'll wait... I'm done 3/3 EDD got lucky with ppl in pubs 4 of us have IW !

[burnt sandal]

I suggest you chill the fuck up bud

[solid haven]

I chill right now, cause im done 3/3 EDD this week waaahooo !

[burnt sandal]

gg

[paper stump]

You seem to think that IW is required? My team never runs it and had no issues

[turbid dawn]

why argue with someone on playstyle based idiocy, if folks wanna run IW run it, if ya dont ya dont.

[turbid dawn]

ah so a normal spawn is impossible, but there is a chance to get a error cube from breaking gifts, you just got lucky

[harsh linden]

this EDD has so much nitra lmao

[turbid dawn]

thats how they trick you, secret to completing edds is dont mine nitra

or gold, but what do i know

[wraith shard]

edp?

[spiral badge]

Well don’t mine gold but

[viscid vapor]

This deep dive was pretty chill apart from the shockers being an annoyance because I set up with vampire and never even died once. Was solo btw. Gonna try the edd solo later this week. Probably on sunday.

Oh and went blind btw

Though it's the normal one so to be expected

[left sleet]

Loving the reads in here 🍿 😊

[wheat gull]

Tried the EDD last night and hoo-boy it didn't go great on stage 2. 😮
Definitely seems like one of those stages where losing tempo is practically gg

[wheat gull]

I almost replied to one of 'em, til I realized I might accidentally resurrect an argument 😛

[hollow iris]

I hope next EDD gets very tryhard to be completed

[copper ruin]

yeah then mr IW might think his argument is being proven lmao

[eager atlas]

fun fact, iron will and breathing room are useless if you never go down :D

[jagged rapids]

Lol I see I missed a very fun morning in here

Anywho, how's the EDD this week? Doesn't look too crazy tbh

[valid ginkgo]

lol That was an interesting read.
It just sounded like a toxic argument from a random kid in a competitive fps game.

[valid ginkgo]

Yeah, pretty easy this week again. My friends and I did it with all 4 gunners as a meme. First run. lol

[misty maple]

god damnit

tried the edd and the multiplayer session ended right as we were entering the second stage

at least i only have to do the first stage over

[junior tree]

is this week's edd hard?

[wheat gull]

My experience thus far has been that stage 2 is hella nasty

[jagged rapids]

Gotcha. Plan was to run sludge so that one actually looked the least problematic but good to know

I hope it is pure chaos

[wheat gull]

It definitely is. It strikes me as one of those stages where losing tempo leads to the mission spiraling out of control.

[jagged rapids]

Lol that or having teammates go for mini mules without knowing what that does 🤣 always fun

The number of times I've had new players shocked by the sudden swarms bc they walked by every mini mule

[wheat gull]

Going for mini mules?

[jagged rapids]

Getting within a certain distance of mini mules triggers a small swarm

At least the first time you do it

[wheat gull]

That sounds familiar, I think I forgot about that detail in my old age lol

[jagged rapids]

Same with the legs for mini mules. One of them will always have a chance to do that when dug up

I think 1 of the 4 legs is booby trapped

[jagged rapids]

Might've been the cause of some of your chaos

[wheat gull]

lol

Nah it's been a combination of enemy composition, low party DPS, and regenerative bugs

[jagged rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-cowabunga-it-is-michaelangelo-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-gif-15971163

[wheat gull]

Somebody who gets it.

[eager atlas]

regenerative bugs salvage was something in one of my first dives and I remember it as one of the hardest things I had done at that point

[jagged rapids]

Yea Regen is when I either look at sludge or cryo

[wheat gull]

I may need to rethink my go-to gunner loadout. I'll have to gush later though, dive starting. 😛

[jagged rapids]

Good luck!

[wheat gull]

Not lucky enough I guess lol

Man that stage feels wild as scout. Not enough nitra in the world lol

[turbid dawn]

or fire, fsd is great for it

[turbid dawn]

you only need to use your freeze when bugs get into the circle, if not your doing normal things such as zipping out to kill ops and prats

[solid haven]

video on current EDD or it never happen

y'all kids proving IW isn't required in this current EDD please show me a vid or it never happen.. all TALK no proof PWE

and do it in pubs with random kids

[bitter stump]

Rare sighting of a toxic drg player

[tiny dagger]

https://youtu.be/F0G98Xl-pjc?si=DN7ezqvF3Qt1hmXS How about solo?

[low plover]

Oh boi, these modifiers in EDD change things
My thought is taking Big Bertha, but becayse of regenerating bugs maybe neurotoxin will do.
I wont taje fire build again, Im sick of playing fire for last 10 EDDs because of robots

[low plover]

the terrain in second stage is so much pain, we lost because two of us got stuck in the crevice, I got stuck in the pit surrounded by bugs and BULK and Scout was flying around trying to rez any of us, but died and we lost just as drop pod gate opened 😭

[wheat gull]

That depends on whether your team is keeping up with the DPS. Most of my EDD attempts last night were as scout, and I was pretty consistently getting as many kills as most of the team.

[daring sandal]

playing solo deep dive, that is some mad lad shit

[dapper verge]

It’s all tuna and casseroles till you bring randoweiser into the mix

[scarlet python]

We're rich 🤑

Now how do i get roles

[dapper verge]

Roles? Somebody want tuna?

[ancient cove]

read rules

#welcome-and-rules

[scarlet python]

Thanks, I didn't see it somehow lol

[lavish stump]

Hai everyone!! <33

[solid haven]

naah too EZ do it 4/4 kid

[solid haven]

how is it toxic if im saying FACTS

[tiny dagger]

i don't have the time to entertain you

[nimble prairie]

What setup are you running for EDD? Im running the m1000 right now but no overclocks yet. Fells pretty weak and not really ammo efficient

[wheat gull]

My go-to scout build is with the GK2 (ammo > armor shred > fire rate) and the Boomstick (special powder > ammo > penetration) and cryo grenades. I usually try to focus down critical enemies and armored enemies (stingtails, shellbacks, etc)

May also be worth mentioning I use a lot of melee. I'm a stingy dwarf lol

[nimble prairie]

You have an oc on your gk2? Im using electrifying reload right now which seems to be very nice for waveclearing

[wheat gull]

The high attack speed one, but I'm not 100% sold yet. I found the DPS was surprisingly helpful for hit-and-run.

[spiral badge]

Is the plasma rifle not good? Cause I see a lot of scouts using GK2

[wheat gull]

It's probably a preference thing. Up until recently I really disliked the GK2. After they gave it some love recently I gave it another chance, and found that the armor-shredding approach worked well for me.

[spiral badge]

What OC do you use

[wheat gull]

Overclocked Firing Mechanism at the moment, but I haven't found my preference yet

Scout is probably my least played lol

[spiral badge]

Yeah that or driller for me

Driller is mainly my on site refining only class

[vagrant locust]

Really tough EDD this week, stage 2 is absolutely killer, had to fight like hell. Feels so rewarding once you finish it though ❤️

[wheat gull]

Yeah stage 2 is brutal, still haven't beaten it yet

[vagrant locust]

We were so worn down just by getting the MULEs sorted!

[wheat gull]

Teams I've run with so far haven't been able to keep up with the swarms. Once the spiral starts it gets out of control real fast lol

[vagrant locust]

Sometimes it's some ungodly combo of all the most annoying enemies, three of you getting wasted by a Trijaw and an Acid Spitter, then the last guy fighting through mobs and finally getting to you...only to get bodied by a Shellback >_<

[celest charm]

what is stage 2 of edd?

[sudden cipher]

3 minimules + 2 eggs + regenerative bugs

[celest charm]

Bruh salvage

[celest charm]

that combination isn't too bad

if you bunker

[wheat gull]

Hol up gimme a sec to enlight a dwarf

[sudden cipher]

Enlight (scout flare gun reference)

[bitter stump]

3 mules and people triggering multiple waves is probably the problem

Regen bugs is a non issue

[wheat gull]

Cave generation is a mess. The bugs have regeneration. The bugs include things like cave leeches, shellbacks, trijaws, oppressors, spawners, and bulk detonators. They also have a particularly high/constant spawn rate. If you lose tempo, you very quickly end up with a cramped, chaotic cave filled with oppressors, detonators, and shellbacks. Knockbacks are plentiful so rezzing is difficult, and trijaws will annihilate anybody who makes a mistake.

[celest charm]

Regeneration only matters if you aren't actually killing the bugs. This should never be the case.

The worst part about stage 2 is mostly being a salvage mission

[wheat gull]

Of course, but some times it is the case 😛

[celest charm]

team issue I fear

[wheat gull]

probably, yeah 😛

[patent elk]

<@&296918282403840000> sus link. Also don't know if you want to be pinged EVERY single time one of these pop up so if it's an issue I'll stop.

[spiral badge]

If stage 2 was eggs primary, it’d be a lot easier

[wheat gull]

Stage 3 feels like an apology compared to stage 2 lol

[sudden cipher]

my team's stage3 started borked

we popped the dreadnaught on accident when we werent ready

[valid ginkgo]

I used to panic whenever things start on accident when I was a greenbeard. Now I take pride in being able to deal with anything that comes my way and no matter the danger, I'd be calm and trust in my capabilities and my teammates. Being able to succeed despite all the hurdles is such a great feeling of accomplishment and the Rock and Stoning a lil bit more sweeter.

I can't help but feel that when you're able to do this, that's when you, yourself, consider yourself a graybeard.

Don't give up miners! Keep improving and growing~

[wheat gull]

Hell yeah. My best moments in DRG are when things go horribly, horribly wrong but we manage to pull through anyway. The comeback stories are hella good 😄

[wheat gull]

It's even better when you've got greenbeards that you're trying to steer out of a jam. Last week we had a dive to awry, I ended up feeling like some sort of cliche'd sergeant trying to do the shotcalling to try to set things right. XD

[eager atlas]

it's kinda weird that dreadnoughths are less of a threat compared to swarms

something something 100 duck sized horses

[valid ginkgo]

There's just something about hundreds of little things persistently and relentlessly chasing you and trying to kill you.

[thorny sonnet]

lol

[spiral badge]

Especially when that swarm usually involves an oppy along with the hundreds of little things

[shadow temple]

Oh it's simple

The 100 small things trying to kill you can potentially be approaching from every direction

The 1 big thing trying to kill you is always going to be coming from one direction

[molten vessel]

Man the elite deep dive stage one is very hard on solo

It's ALWAYS the last aquraq

[tiny dagger]

can people really not find this one aquarq

[molten vessel]

Bro I looked EVERYWHERE

If I play Gunner I lack the mobility to find the aquaraqs and if I am playing scout I am lacking the fire power to deal with the swarms and the black box

[tiny dagger]

just don't deal with swarms tbh

you're a scout

[molten vessel]

The stingtails in question:

[tiny dagger]

stingtails can't pull you if you're fast as fuck

[molten vessel]

You can't always be fast as fuck 😔

[eager atlas]

driller is the best for aquarqs imo

big crowd control, great mobility for aquarq purpose

all 4 of your tools can be used to damage stuff that gets in your face

[molten vessel]

Unfortunately my driller is very low leveled

[eager atlas]

Tthat said if you're solo, remember to abuse bosco, he can carry PE

[molten vessel]

Yeah

I'll just bash my head with scout until I win

Is it better to use jumbo shells broomstick or firebolts

I've got cryo, bodkin and trifolk aswell

[molten vessel]

Ohhhh nice I got it

Got absolutely rolled in the second stage but at least I got the blank

[shadow temple]

Remember; It's not a true point extraction mission until u spend 30 minutes finding the last aquarq

Also note; You don't just find 1 more aquarq, u find 3 more in the same area when u eventually find it

[jolly wing]

I know that feeling

[tulip zealot]

first deep dive done

pretty interesting

[inland lodge]

can someone help me? i have an issue regarding the game, multiplayer specifically. when i join a multiplayer game, i get to play normally for 1-2 mins then it freezes and everyone's running in place, i can move around and do things but everything else is stuck. soon after i then get kicked out and see connection lost.
my ram and cpu are fine, never had this issue w it before until a week ago, my internet is fine as well

[wraith shard]

hi, pls dont you know why Im not allow to use the othet chats?

[eager atlas]

role in #welcome-and-rules

[wraith shard]

omg, thanks mate 🙂

[unique ore]

Ive had something similar happen to me, it dced me after a few minutes consistently. It was a software issue that was also messing up any recording software, could only record at like 5 fps with obs or windows game bar. I completely reinstalled windows and it fixed both issues, not sure if its the same problem tho.

[celest charm]

wtf how many fucking septic spreaders spawn in this 2nd stage

holy shit I'd like to spend like 2 minutes without having to sit on a stationary objective with 10 giga trillion septic balls sent my way

[still geode]

at least four

[hollow iris]

bro that stage get crazy very easily

[sonic knoll]

just finished my first EDD

holy fuck it

intense

[celest charm]

this edd was just abnormally hard

[jolly wing]

Yea

Second stage was the roughest for me

The overwhelming numbers upon enetering the toom + the spreader rain

[celest charm]

If you scout isn't on the ball and hard focusing the septics

you are just fucked

[jolly wing]

Also since the entrance to the main cave was high up, two of my dwarven brothers splattered to the ground

[celest charm]

My team barely clawed our way out of the initial swarm

[jolly wing]

I was the scout so obv i went for the spreaders first

They make reviving nigh impossible

[celest charm]

don't forget trijaws

[sonic knoll]

We had a bulk spawn as we were defending the uplink and then the fuel cells dropped like really high up on a spike left by the bulk's explosion

[celest charm]

my scout went drak 25 for some ungodly reason

so both septics and trijaws reined free

[jolly wing]

But i like drak

[celest charm]

I was a sludge driller and couldn't do shit

[sonic knoll]

i was slkudge driller too

[celest charm]

If you know there are gonna be a bajillion priority targets that will lob shit at long range why are you using drak

[jolly wing]

I love the RoF of it

And i go close and personal with HVT

Either that, or i just nishanka the HVT

[sonic knoll]

HVT?

[jolly wing]

High value targets

Like spreaders, menace, etc

[hollow iris]

i hope all the elites get this hard

it is fun to tryhard

[celest charm]

modded hazards exist

[hard pagoda]

I don't even remember what this EDD was with how normal it is

[native breach]

what's the problem with Drak ? did he have a shit build ?

[warped veldt]

drak in general is the worst option against spreaders and trijaws, theres only 1 build that can really keep up with the other primaries in that niche

[native breach]

In what world is drak bad against tri-jaws ?

[jagged dune]

New player here. quick question, why in the high hell is the mule programmed to route through meteor craters?!?!?!? I can't follow it on the damn ceiling!

[native breach]

she just takes the shortest path to the pod, you'll have to use the map and follow the path you took down initially in situations like these

[jagged dune]

It was one of the fun places where the terrain scanner shows no exit, just a giant open chamber. Failed like a 40 minute solo mission cause of that.

[native breach]

did you try de-zooming ? might sound obvious but lots of people don't know you can

[grand pasture]

I imagine it's just not for people that might somewhat struggle to account for projectile travel time, or maybe the lack of stun

[native breach]

I mean I understand that, i'm not a fan of Drak myself and could agree that the travel time and no stun can be no-no for some people, but still doing 50% electricity and 50% fire damage is pretty neat on macteras in general

[grand pasture]

Statistically speaking, it does have a lack of DPS in most builds, but thermal exhaust feedback can on average output more than both other primaries

[native breach]

TEF is definitely one of the best ways to build a Drak, but it rarely helps on macteras simply because you tend not to want to be hugging them. In general i'd agree that Drak isn't the BEST at mactera clearing, but i feel like acting like taking it for an EDD that has a few is a bit exaggerated

in terms of ammo efficiency, it comes down to 2% roughly the same as the GK2

[bitter stump]

Eh probably a player issue not a gun issue
Drak can hvt snipe well enough if you run proj speed

I don't like it not is it better then the others, but it can

[native breach]

It does the job pretty well, not as good at long ranges than the GK2 but has in most builds way more up close utility, at medium range it clears soft HVTs pretty much as good as the GK2 with the same ammo consumption

of course we won't compare any of these two to the M1K wich just does almost everything better

[bitter stump]

I mean I'm biased for gk2 against drak because I don't like projectiles but I don't particularly think drak has much more then gk2 for close range

[native breach]

when i say close range

i mean groups of close range targets

[bitter stump]

With the exception of aggressive venting but that's an exception

[native breach]

otherwise clsoe range and medium range are equal for both

[native breach]

AV, Impact reflection, Overtuned Particle all shine on close range groups

[bitter stump]

I mean ig
Though if I can id rather not be shooting grunts with gk2 when I can avoid it because ammo

[bitter stump]

Id fair enough
I'll be blunt opa is a meme but in this context yes you have a point

[hexed sphinx]

Just finished EDD, and wow

[native breach]

It's actually pretty good once you get used to it

[hexed sphinx]

Tough as hell

[native breach]

I felt the same at first but i like it now, for group clearing mostly

[hexed sphinx]

I was using the drak and it was actually pretty good

[native breach]

there you go haha !

were you solo ?

[hexed sphinx]

Oh no

Nowhere near that talented

Had a squad

[native breach]

nah i'm sure you can

depends on your build tho i guess

i didn't struggle in solo cause minelayer + the mole is busted

jsut took long cause my short gunner legs were having a hard time navigating some areas

[bitter stump]

Minelayer do be op

[hexed sphinx]

I play Scout, so I don't know what build is good for soloing

[native breach]

it's hard not to use it after you've played with it for a while

[native breach]

for solo, having something to efficiently clear groups

[hexed sphinx]

So Drak or Stock?

[native breach]

If you need AOE clear on Drak the best is Agressive Venting

[hexed sphinx]

Like I said I ran Drak and it worked pretty well against all the guards since I had armor piercing rounds on it

[native breach]

for GK2 it's electrifying reload

[hexed sphinx]

I ran Drak and Crossbow with taser bolts and bodkin points

[native breach]

Alas taser bolts is a big meme

[hexed sphinx]

Tasers came in clutch during black box uploads

[native breach]

yeah it can be alright

but i'd rather have pheromones

1 bolts and 13 enemies are just not interested in you anymore

[hexed sphinx]

Yeah, every other time I just used Bodkins since we were always knee deep in enemies

[native breach]

bodkin is just so nice now

you can also run firebolts(or cryo but less effective) + pheromone for group clear

[bitter stump]

Ideally m1k primary though things like aise gk2 and tef drak keep up with it, I think for solo blowthrough is always better on m1k because you don't miss breakpoints
Secondary is usually something crowd clear, say boomstick, minelets zhukovs, or cryo/fire bolt nikashanka

[native breach]

You can take electrifying reload on GK2 for grunt clearing

it's incredibly ammo efficient

take a bit of getting used to it tho

[bitter stump]

Phero grenades carry your ability to hold locations

[grand pasture]

AISE pretty much rewards your aim for ammo efficiency though. If you don't care that much about it, use OFM instead

[hexed sphinx]

I like the m1k but I feel like it's not as good at grunt clearing

[native breach]

i'd say AISE is a bit more efficient as a big target killed tho

[hexed sphinx]

Maybe I'm just not using it right

[native breach]

it's the best at grunt clearing

[grand pasture]

Ammo wise yeah, that's the one thing AISE holds against OFM.

[bitter stump]

I don't recommend er on gk2 because of how much time it takes to get the effect applied to a group
It's def good but you need to know what to expect when using it

[native breach]

try 13213 hipster

[hexed sphinx]

Alright then I'm not using it right

[native breach]

If you're not used to it sure, but other wise i'd say it's not that slow

you need to have good spatial awareness though

[grand pasture]

ER goes unbelievably hard if used right

Teammates can nullify it though

[hexed sphinx]

I need more overclocks it seems

[native breach]

jsut so you know 13213 isn't a "standard" hipster build

[grand pasture]

Hard to get much out of the overclock when your teammates keep mag dumping everyone you electrocute

[bitter stump]

Also for Hipster I would run something like stun on it so you can say stun a goo bomber then mag dump it

[native breach]

that's why i only use it solo

[grand pasture]

Yeah me too

[hexed sphinx]

I don't play much solo, I'm not the best at it and I find it less fun

[grand pasture]

Feels like playing dot driller

[hexed sphinx]

I play Scout as a support, I usually run field medic and iron will so I can up people quicker

[grand pasture]

Or like NTP

[native breach]

the idea behind 13213 Hipster is : you ALMOST have x3 more ammo than base M1K, you kill grunts in 3 body shots or 1mouth +1 body shots

usually you only need two round to kill even when you're spammy

[bitter stump]

Funny cc hipster

[grand pasture]

Hipster gives the illusion that it's better than it is however.
Statistically it's very slightly better in most regards but not by a lot

[native breach]

It's not as good as people make it out to be

it is good though

[grand pasture]

True that

Yeah

Better than no overclock

[native breach]

Hipster is good at crowd control because you can really go ham

[bitter stump]

M1k is good
M1k ocs are upgrades to the gun
Hipster and scc are sidegrades