#deep-dive-discussion
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pandoras curse
Thank you guys for all the help :'D i feel quite silly having 50+hrs so far, level 40 something, and still not knowing what i'm doing lmao
you're a greenbeard until you aren't
ask folks here, most are kind and relatively not jaded with freshies
always learning
im 1k+ and still finding new shizz
ye, that's been my experience in game so far :)
it's easily the most welcoming community i've seen, idk why i was so scared to try public lobbies before
its a strange and refereshing community as opposed to the many multiplayer games out there
very peaceful and encouraging for the most part
youll find the occassional delinquent though
those elves are just that, elves
Hey! I've rejoined the server after some times what did I miss? I was near the end of season 1
How do I rejoin one of the three factions?
Use headphones
The team quality makes such an enormous difference for the EDD. Last night's run was heavy, the run I just finished was a breeze, lol
Oh definitely, a team full of greybeards who know what they're doing and brought the right build could easily decimate an EDD
I could bring a funny build and still go through the EDD
Though being solo has a lot of merits as well
Yup. For the longest time I couldn't do EDD cuz I also couldn't do Haz 5
Over time that changed, still impressed with greenbeards who can manage their own in an EDD
how hard does the minehead carry the hiveguard fight
like does it shoot the crystals at all
To the hiveguard, barely. To the mini swarms that constantly spawn throughout the fight, it helps
Wouldn't call it anywhere close to a carry, but it being able to weaken and kill a few grunts before they get to you does help with management
does it help with sentinels at all?
i wanna do a modless scout true solo run so im thinking just let minehead chip at hiveguard however it can while i ghrab the aquarqs
It kinda, since it does shoot at them and sentinels can be damaged regardless of where they are hit (rather than the hiveguard where its vulnerable areas are very specific)
Chances are u could let the turrets try to dmg and weaken the sentinels
But as for the actual hiveguard? Better you do it
alrighty cool tyty
I don't think ammo should be much of an issue though so you dont have to worry about it
I ended the EDD with 613 nitra this time round
dayumn
Does sentry ammo not refill between stages now?
no
I haven’t been finding machines events lately, is it bugged, or am I just unlucky
interesting me too
will update when i get one
I got one yesterday
Maybe it's just luck
What are the missions?
Hey guys
I just started playing finished tutorial
It says i have to do a mission next
Why is there no one on the server list
Man
Maybe some problems with servers
the problem is that the reigons are rotating, and the ones avalible to you probably aren't in other players maps right now
new players gradually get introduced to new mission types and regions
they reset every 30 min
Do you think that is the reason?
I also couldn't join deep dives
Just empty server list
you need to get a dwarf to lvl 25 and complete an assingment to promote it, then you unlock deep dives and overclocks
try to reset the hub too
Ok, I'll try that
the new update changed the mission rotating a bit, so if youre in the lobby and missions change, they don't change for you until the hub is reloaded
or maybe the browser is just broken, idk i usually play solo
nope, mine works just fine
also check your browser settings, you might want to increase search distance
Hello everyone. I am new here and for some reason I can't post in bug discussion channels etc.
Primarily the reason I arrived here
get a role from #welcome-and-rules
thanks. I must have missed that
Are there many leeches in the edd this week?
i dont think thats allowed here
30k credits or more within 72 hours? That's baby numbers
Yups
Hello comrades, can you please tell me how I can get some kind of role, I’m just curious🤭
do you get rewards from every deep dive or first only?
once a week per deep dive
i had earlier finally a successful edd for this week. tbh i was mostly carried by teammates, but at the same i played as driller instead of engi or scout
i just hope i wasn't too much of weight for them
why can't i find any event to use my blank matrix core after the patch
is it removed or am i just unlucky
recent patch broke something
from what i heard at least
They're bugged
i see no wonder i cant get any
I've heard it's related to disabling rockpox, but idk if they show up if you have it enabled
on the third stage? that's pretty good already, gratz
you still got most the rewards tho
regular DD is very doable solo
be well prepared, don't be afraid to take your time
i'd recommend driller or engi for the DD solo
driller + scout if you ever consider going in a duo
edd red rock for todays specia "on me" ps 3 seats availbe
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nice work! (*^▽^)/★*☆♪
Anyone ip for a deep dive elite?
kinda new lvl 12 looking for people to play with
who do u get permission for LFG steam channel
question is doing 1 deep dive compared to 3 separate missions give more xp or nah
definitely do 3 separate missions
there's double xp chance, more minerals, and hazard bonuses
that is so true tyty
yuh
How do i do insdustrial sabotage with a driller 😭😭
Flamethrower for destroying bots and clearing waves of glyphids.
Subata for dealing with sniper towers and shooting caretaker in the eye
Spec your C4 to have both dmg mods
Drill to the ceiling of the Caretaker's cave, and lob your C4 down onto the head of the caretaker during vent phase to skip it
read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role
Moddy hit it pretty well but yea as driller the best thing you can focus on is helping your team. Up until the boss, you're honestly playing driller as usual but it's rival presence.
Once you hit the boss tho, you're not the greatest for boss damage. Where you can really add value is helping make the boss room good for your team, taking out the robots, shredders, snipers and claws during the boss fight. That'll let you team easily focus on the boss. Caretaker isn't a hard boss, it's hard to fight while dealing with all the enemies. That's the whole threat in the fight. You can help remove threat to your team and then they can focus on damage.
Anything that can kill the caretaker or hiveguard quick
I used hyper propellant and the primary use whatever is comfortable
hi
*get downed* *leaves*
You'll always get that all you can do is try your best
where can i find russian teammates for deep dive
yeah I was using breach cutter but it didnt go so well
I believe there is a Russian server but I'm not 100% on that
If you ask a mod they can help you out
okey thank u
I've never really used BC for the caretaker, I might have to try it out
Surely with a plastcrete ring around the caretaker and some range you can reach through it no?
yeah
EDD doesn’t feel easy, we got wiped like 4 times last night, mostly on stage 2, then 3 as we had a swarm that seemed to be indefinite
Have the people saying it's easy. I would say they are exaggerating a bit so don't pay it any mind
3 as we had a swarm that seemed to be indefinite
That's just point extraction, you kinda have to ignore the bugs the best you can and get the stuff done
Ignore the bugs and you get swamped
the best you can
kill what's in the way, but try to progress as you kill things
don't focus only on killing, is my point, since then you're just waiting too much time and PE just gets worse and worse the more you stay
I haven’t had PE be like that on regular DD
Well of course you gone up 2 hazards to 5.5
regular DD is haz 3.5 at worst, so it takes a while for it to ramp up
Just how you want gage your speed I generally just go off the turrets reserve ammo
If it's at 100 by the time we call the rocket you're doing grand
Hard considering everything is located above so it takes time to get to the aquarks
Not to mention the dread
yeah PE can be pretty rough at times
Wonder how possible it is on solo
the dreadnought can actually be an advantage because it prevents announced swarms
everything is possible solo, plus you have bosco
The bugs health would be way lower
normal bugs don't get more HP with more players, but there's definitely less of them, they go a bit slower and do less damage
Does anyone know if deep dive maps are randomly generated on the first try, or do they try multiple seeds to find something in particular?
Ye this, when I say an EDD is ez or hard, that always means on a solo basis
I don't really have that privilege to be able to EDD with other folks so I almost always have to do it solo
From what I remember, I went gunner for this. LSLS primary and BRT7 secondary w/ leadburster grenades
Used 1 supply pod for the 1st stage and 1 for the 3rd. Surprisingly didn't need any for the 2nd but I probably got lucky with which mobs were elite
Bosco on PE should be illegal, definitely helps you just focus down swarms while they dig the aquarqs out
6 of the 7 can be easily laser pointered
The last one needs you to climb into a partition blocked off by a wall or something, but it's also fairly easy to locate
hm
pardon me but how do i access drg chat
i cant 😭
also it wont let me join the union
Go and read the welcome and get yourself a role
And the union is almost always broken but in the DRG chat check the Pins and you might be able to fix it
it's random https://youtu.be/YX3_iAe4QS0?t=2428
that's what I call citing your sources, thanks!
I went driller because I was a bit concerned with haz 5.5 PE, but most of the aquarqs are visible and I did end up using the dreadnought to prevent announced swarms, it was a bit of a pain to put the aquarqs at times because he was running around but I rather do that than deal with 100 spiders all over the place #drg-gallery message
bosco gets every high aquarq, I drill to the easily reachable ones
I didn’t realize this, so thanks for the dread tip
I went RB hurricane
They are randomly generated only once a week. No other changes
unless theres a update post the generation in which a new seed is chosen
Or if the seed is not completable
Did it with minelayer and elephant rounds, bosco carries on third with aquarqs, only sorta hard one is stage one sabo
I tried 2-3 times solo and the caretaker is too much a problem for me
It needs to chill the frick out with the teleport mines and shield walls
I hid behind that tall pillar and peeked a lot
Used the splash with the hurricane to take out vents in okay ammonia efficiency
Industrial sabo has loads of extra nitra
If you need to resupply just to heal, feel free to do that, there is more than you need
Ehh, I prefer red sugar nonetheless
I used up all sugar and called 2 resup pods
Best perk loadout for Gunner?
Are you LSLS?
No
I can't seem to do EDD without using scout.
XD
it's a pain to look for resources in the dark.
Tragic
Dash, iron will, resupplier, born ready, and vampire is what I use
Vampire on not a driller??
third red slot feels like a preference thing anyway
For vamp+iron will, sweet tooth or most of the other perks can also work well in the 3rd slot
Just usually hard to trigger vampire when you’re in IW with other classes. Driller just tosses an axe at the nearest thing and you’re back up
read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role
Do you not equip power attacks 🙃
this is skill issue with regards to timing of the rez and use of power attack/dash
i think sweet tooth is far outcompeted by other perks for edd
Yeah but you’re not guaranteed to have something near death enough to kill with a power attack, or even to have power attack off recharge
What's more optimal OC for shotgun in EDD? If played with turret whip
I heard that MPA is better but I find Stunner more comfortable for general purposes. Wanted to hear your opinion as well
You get two power attacks during iron will
I hate dreadnought + point extraction
Because it turns out that an active dreadnought does not stop the passive waves of point extraction as seen in stage 3 of the EDD
95% of the time you can kill a grunt with your power attack
Or in gunners case I might pop down a shield and rez someone else if there isn’t any grunts or red sugar
Of course, getting up, and clutching are very different things…..
Ye it doesn't, so u gotta juggle. Also why fighting near the Minehead is a good idea to weaken the mini swarms
True.
We struggled hard because our gunner disconnected, and we had difficulty kiting the hiveguard around.
I spent almost all of the waiting for the drop pod downed since I was playing scout.
I told the driller and engineer to survive and forget about me trying to pick me up since I had red sugar near me and haven't popped IW yet.
Still, the chad driller came for me and we all made it
Unless you iron will very quick, you most likely have it recharged, and gruns and slashers die in a single power attack, which are very common to be around you
Some argue that stunner is better in situations in which you're surrounded by too many bugs, and honestly if you find it more comfortable just use that
Me too. With a full squad it becomes really hard.
non-stop agression
But this map layout helped a lot. Very open, easy to find aquarqs
I used to run MPA but I haven't gone back since getting CO tbh
Why couldn't you read #welcome-and-rules ?
Oh I'm blind lol, thx
could someone recommend a build for no overclock Gunner for this week's EDD?
tried solo with stock weapons, stun and overheat talents on minigun, but idk what other players expect from gunners in EDD
Hurricane with aoe size, velocity, rate of fire, aoe damage, and stun
Brt7 with accuracy, fire rate, damage, weakpoint, and stun
221 or 223 for shields
Resupplier, Born ready, vampire, dash, iron will
Damage on pickaxe
Hurricane for weaker enemies and groups of enemies, brt7 for tougher enemies or when hurricane needs to reload
Shoot guards in the face, both weapons are suitable for killing them
If you have overclocks for those weapons name em and ping me and ill say if they are worth using and if you should adjust the build for them
guards?
The armored version of grunts
i've no overclocks for gunner except for some pretty basic one for brt
That build should cover essentially any situation effectively and be relatively easy to grasp how to play
i see i'll try, only got Hurricane unlocked yesterday, still getting used to it
what about anti-armor talent on Hurricane?
Armor break is bugged on weapons that fire projectiles and on aoe damage
It still helps you break armor better but it lacks other benefits armor break would usually offer
how would that build fare in Caretaker fight? or should temmates cover that?
The main reason to pick the armor break mod is if you dont want the velocity
Should do well vs caretaker
Not particularly specialized for it, but also not lacking in any meaningfull manner
i see
Hurricane also does well vs patrol bots if you aim for their head
are caretaker "weakpoints" count as actual weakpoints? i.e. do you deal extra direct damage? or however it works...
I dont think so but im not 100% sure
coz i always took minigun to Caretaker coz i thought other options do less damage there 
the vents aren't weakpoints, but the eye is
would it be worth trying to BRT it up close then?
ideally your driller is dealing with the vents anyway
Yeah brt does good damage
accuracy brt doesn't need to get close but yes
And that build has solid range aswell
i think i had 6 bullet burst one, shreds dreads like crazy
Ye
6 burst isnt a bad pick but it requires more careful use to not accidentally spend all your ammo
you can right click to cancel a burst before it ends
but if you want to cancel often then you probably don't want a 6 bullet burst in the first place
i avoided stun talent coz i feel im gonna miss a shot more often than not haha
And the stun mod is also quite strong
but yeah losing ammo super fast with 6 bullet burst is pretty noticeable
With t1 accuracy its fairly reliable
Especially vs mid size stuff like trijaws the stun can really help avoid damage
got the "more ammo + shorter delay between bursts" overclock for it actually, the only gunner weapon with overclock
yeah
Its nothing flashy but the extra ammo is nice to have especially for caretaker and dreads
And extra fire rate is always welcome
I used that oc quite a while myself
alright gonna try like this lets see how it goes
going to do a deep dive for the first time, any tips?
Dont waste nitra but also dont be too stingy
Don't die
Ammo and nitra carry over between stages, so if you waste it you may struggle later
But it also means any extra nitra can - and often should - be spent later if you feel the need
Even if its just for healing
Also if you want a nice gunner build u can use the one I mentioned right above :)
thanks
we won! 
second stage went very rough, non stop stream of enemies, couldnt clear the area so we went down alot, when i was solo it was practically a ghost town in comparison lol
nearly failed it, but couple IW saves and eventual play by Driller saved the day

last stage wasnt too bad, we had lots of resups to use, but really struggled with extraction coz drop pod spawned practically on the roof lmao
i did some ziplines but team panicked and everyone went their own way
Sounds like the build worked out for ya
and i was stuck not being able to zip at good enough angle from my position to get up to drop pod, shoulda went zig-zag across the room instead
yeah, worked very well! stun is giga helpful and the damage was good as well - i was at first unsure if Hurricane does good dps, but it turned out well
and the splash is godly on groups
hmm does this channel allow pictures?
does not, use #drg-gallery
here's the final screen if anyone interested #drg-gallery message
just 5 and a half hours till the reset
oh i should prob do this edd huh
oh nvm its the same one
wait i havent done this one nvm part 2
do it true solo modless perkless scout
i should
ive been running modded no shot i can beat haz6 and not a true solo stock edd righttttt
ill help carry you by not helping carry you
genius
if i do get on ill be on in like an hour or two last minute edds go crazy trust
i am fhe next albert dwarfstein
Can anyone take me through my first deep dive
Soon™
if im running csp 11122 what secondary and what build should i use
im leaning towards subata and wave cooker currently
dont like epc that much
Wave cooker with exothermic reactor and mega power supply pairs well with cryo cannon or crispr for thermal shock
Quite ammo efficient too
The deep dives for this week will reset soon, you will get plenty of lobbies
i already sorted out my other builds
7 mins soon
wave cooker has more synergy with crispr than subata w thermal shock, but you can also use either as pure backup weapons
Oh sorry I read it as crispr
oh
the deep dive rotation pin has been updated to reflect this week's new dives -- thank you everyone for your patience, and happy thanksgiving to my american miners out there! <3
Hell yea, Rock and Stone vio!
Also HELL YEA I.S. ON STAGE 3
This is a free EDD for sure
Stage 1 pain tho... 😭
btw where do people get roles from
haz 5.5 industrial sabotage is something i hold very dear to my heart <3
read #welcome-and-rules , and it'll tell you how! (o≧▽≦)ノ
morkite triple threat
Lmao I love how almost every DD and EDD mission has morkite
The only stage out of the 6 that doesn't have Morkite as an objective is DD 3 lmao
Morkite 😴
i see
Soon
repeted objectives 😴
Ind sab in elite deep dive? Someone's gonna cry and make a suggestion around it now
EDD1: Elimination (Hiveguard & Classic) + Morkite, Haunted Cave
EDD2: Refinery + Morkite, Cave leech Cluster
EDD3: Sabotage + Morkite, Mactera Plague + Rich Atmosphere
Surprisingly chill edd ngl
Haunted Cave was a bit annoying but the rest of the levels are okay.
omg is that you hehe :'D
Hellooo
hi
I hate Sabotage on EDD
Im tired of EDD sabotages honestly
mactera plague at stage 3 💀
Another Sabotage ?? 😭
DRG
sabo was, surprisingly, the easiest EDD stage for me
i got used as ghost bait in stage one (;・∀・)
3 EDD sabotage in a row?
EDD looking fun
mactera plague sabotage and haunted cave dreadnought woo looks fun
Could someone please help? Just joined this discord yesterday and cannot use any other chat room but this one.
That works thanks!
Another good week
For Driller, would honestly recommend Sludge for Dreads and Caretaker this week
Sludge is my fav anyway
how to report a player?
You don't, block them and move on
sad
doing the EDD with greenbeards, pls send help
our scout's been downed 17 times in the first stage
SEVENTEEN TIMES
I believe in you
we failed at stage 2 😔
RIP
Pin's wrong, Lethal Enemies in DD 2, not Shield Disruption
what's DD?
A deep dive
no im asking wut's this weeks dd have lol
Good lord this week's EDD looks nasty
How do I talk in other channels I can only talk in this chat
Just read the https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/354250235419164682 tab and pick yourself some roles and then you should be able to talk in the other chats 
pretty easy elite this week
any1 wonna do a elite deep dive
It is, pray you get a good team 🙏
Good lord this week's EDD looks nasty
pretty easy elite this week
See it’s this kinda stuff that throws me off
Sarcasm doesn’t translate over text very well if the second comment was sarcastic
But crap, take dark morkite for either DD really
the dd info are wrong on the pinned thing
its not shield disruption its lethal enemies?
DM vioxynteris if you think something should be changed
wasnt realy
0 issues
good terrain
gotcha, thank you
whats the difference between a normal and elite deep dive?
also i cant message in most of the channels for some reason
The hazard levels are different
3-3.5-3.5 For DD
4.5-5-5.5 for edd
And read the https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/354250235419164682 tab and get yourself a role and you'll be all set
very cool thank u
how much better are the elite rewards?
They are the same in terms of cores but more credits and xp
I don't know the specific XP and credits though. Sorry
so if im doing them purely for cores normal is better
Yes although you can only get 3 a week then
so you would get 6? if you did both
Yes
3 for a full completion of a DD
And another 3 for a full completion of the edd
alright does elite have more debuffs or whatever their called like shield disruption etc
like more per section/level
it's still max 1 per level
ah ok cool thanks :)
@rocky zenith additionally you can do the core hunt assignment for more cores per week. Also do events you see on normal missions (they don’t happen on DDs)
When my group saw that the final stage was mactera plague and caretaker we thought it was over with and we didn’t know beforehand so it was a complete surprise
Rich atmosfeer helps immensely with both
I be gaming
yeha i know about the core hunt assignments and which events do you mean? like the ones where you use the tritilyte key?
Yeah
role in #welcome-and-rules
Oh okay
I have no clue
To those of you who do solo dives, do you have a build you normally default to?
I normally solo gunner with ntp/bert for deep dives
Curious what other people do
I have 1 or 2 flex slots depending on the missions
And various perks depending on class/weapons
Oh, also if there’s a refinery mission in the mix I do sludge driller
I kinda make a build to specialise in the DD and edd for that week so it's always different
I hate refinery on any class other than driller
For example if both guns take ammo I use born ready. Gunner if I take minigun I don’t usually use born ready
Really depends on the reload speed over anything else no?
You could actually use the shotgun sludge for this week's edd
Well yeah I mean autocannon and hurricane take painfully long to reload but secondaries don’t so I don’t see the need
If there’s aquarks I usually take the one that lets you throw farther just cause I inevitably will have to help Bosco carry them
Shotgun sludge is my favorite build for both elimination and sabo missions by far
Well this is gonna be a fun week for you then 
Industrial Sabotage stage 3 on edd has gotta be the worst possible mission type
at least it's only mactera plague
also driller c4 buff is a god send.
Able to insta pop vents per resupp
most real statement
all me and my homies hate industrial sabotage
you need 2 mx dmg c4 for this, which means you need a whole resup for urself to pop vents, provided you start with 2 c4.
Worth it
i agree, but ppl need to know not to touch the driller resup on the roof
Lovely weather we’re having
Ty, for cleaning up, its on other channels too
na bro my friend sent me a pic of some dudes dick
Happy Turkey Day miners, what's the verdict on the dives this week? Itching to get my face punched in for a mineral overclock 🤣
well then i am not your homie
or if you take 1 dmg 1 range, it allows you to throw the c4 from below and still hit all 4, with still very good damage, without the time or effort to make a ceiling tunnel
Congrats on outkilling the engie
kek did not realize
You can also take 1 dmg and 1 ammo for your C4, since the recent update rounds up the amount restored per resup
Haz 5.5 two one damage mod c4 pops the shields
Just did it this industrial sabotage
Getting resupp with 3 c4 gives 2
ergo, one resupp of c4 per popped shield
Hello everyone! First day on the job and I am looking for new players to discover the game with. 😄
get a role in #welcome-and-rules and proceed
Thanks! Is there a channel for new players? Online I can't keep up with the pace if i host a public lobby 😬
4 dwarves?
engi walkway is ideal, but hard to do with randos
if you have 3 c4 total, it only gives 1 if you resupply, unless you have a mod that changes it
they fixed this in the current patch no?
Fixed issue with Driller not getting full Satchel Charges with resupplies
that was a bug? literally every other thing resupply rounded up, I thought that was a feature
patch changed it
It was not
it was a bug apparently
turret ammo apparently also rounded down
if you have 4 dwarves you still need max dmg
if full damage c4 does like 850 and one damage mod is 625 or something, and one full damage c4 takes out most of the shield
two one damage mod c4 should pop the shield
last I tested in haz 5
but did you test with 4 players
I did unless I am misremembering.
I know you can use 2 with single damage in solo, and I think 2 players too
4 player scaling requires max dmg, i checked the numbers
its is 935 dmg require at haz 5.5, 880 at haz 5
caretaker has 45% explosive resistance
max for 2 (1 dmg) c4 is 687.5
not enough for haz 5.5 with 4
if you want to solo the vents then max dmg it is
Might be misremembering from when i did an edd with 2 drillers
you are def wrong (not to be rude) - just trying to prevent misinfo. i tested in sandbox too
Nah I'm wrong
I misremembered from a different haz 5 IS game
with two drillers chucking max damage c4s
You still deal more at least with one damage mod c4 per resupp
yeah time/ammo efficiency arguments are different
insta popping i personally prefer, saves the team from unnecessary time related deaths
rounding up satchel charges tho, that just literally makes having 2 ammo upgrades useless right?
There's no real reason to go either full damage or full ammo any more
ignoring haz 5 caretaker
yup
I'll still go range and then ammo for caretaker, since that would be 750 total dmg per resupply vs 875, not a huge difference and easier to plant the c4
range? It's not hard to plant the c4 assuming you prepared a tunnel right above caretaker
with range you can just run in and dump it on its face
If you aren't preparing for caretaker why are you even bothering 
ceiling tunnel >>>> any other method. It's safer and easier and on the offchance you die, your corpse isn't in a bad spot
thats what I prefer, I found it easy to do and saves the time to ceiling up there
You spend time prepping for the fight with tunnels and arena making anyway
and prevents you running down if you actually want to help fight the eye
making one tunnel above the caretaker isn't time consuming
Just make more tunnels?
It's not like the eye instantly dies
playstyle differences folks
if it was a huge difference in damage, then id probably reconsider, but if its only 750 vs 875
recent patch means one resupp on 3 one damage one ammo gives 2
meaning 1200-1300 per resupp
375 base damage * 2 with range + ammo, 875 for 2 dmg bonus
that's a fairly large difference
always pitch the downside too, 1 sec pop vs ammo efficiency
I mean range + 1 ammo vs damage vs 1 ammo.
The damage difference is massive for the amount of time spent
the only difference is you need like 20 seconds less prep time from digging a single tunnel
yes in that argument, you can either pop a max lvl( in base game) caretaker vents in 1 sec or you can be slightly more ammo efficient
you loose this in the time it takes the team to kill the rest of what you didnt pop
in other words, playstyle differences
except your team has to repeat this twice and will take way longer if you fuck up and die on the care taker base trying to c4
as opposed to to significantly less risky cieling c4 trick
If you die at the base theb idk what you are doing
Apparently other guy prefers one range upgrade and one ammo to c4 the caretaker in the open
you are much more likely to die on the ceiling than dying on the base
Unless you have no shield and no hp it wint happen
??????
Since when
you have a bunch dirt between you and all that shit
and no electricity to worry about
only phase bombs are a threat and you can just run from them
Ive seen plenty of times drillers dying up there from an arm stabbing through the dirt
except arms can also stab you much more easily at caretaker base?
In a spot infinitely harder to reach you?
Your argument makes 0 sense
they really cant, you would be constantly moving, they cant hit you
You can also just move back and forth in the tunnel?
Not if you keep moving, but arm shouldnt kill you at the top either, you heal with every c4 you get
You are literally there to deploy c4 then go back down
again, your argument for this strat makes 0 sense
more risk for less reward
the only benefit being you get to be lazy
Isnt ceiling sort of like bunkering
Eh kinda
the ceiling tunnel removes all difficulty from c4ing the caretaker
and gives a relatively risk free passage
you aren't staying there though
since once you pop intakes no reason for you to stay
why the game is too expensive guys
Because you are a person with no income and/or live in a country with economical problems
The game isnt particularly expensive
i got it free now by xbox pc gamepass
Is it really frew if you need gamepass
interesting generalisations
Maybe, but I cant think of any more reasons for a game that's currently 10 USD on discount to be called expensive
Not that either of these are wrong, value is subjective anyway
The recent change of Policy for pricing in some country perhaps.
That relates to the 2nd one though
Hi
why is this edd so shit

check info about edd
caretaker
day ruined
yeah..
Hello
hi
read #welcome-and-rules and pick roles
ok
yes
Game is great
If you can't buy a 30 usd game either you are a jobless kid or your country's economy is bad enough that 30 usd is a large sum of money.
That being said, doesn't steam change prices based on country though?
Damn thats truly some priviledge talking there lol
really some leaf lover energy
Karl would not be proud
Damn... escort duty ... not very speedrunny 
Rock and stone to the bone
Dotty is indeed slow
@fading vapor @marsh swan go to #welcome-and-rules, read and get roles to get access to other channels
Thank you that's literally why I'm here appreciate it. Rock and rolling stone!
I selected them but i went backa nd they keep un-selecting
re-select them
any roles
I did
platform and/or class ones give you the perms
<@&296918282403840000> 
There you go
Yeah I seem to be having a similar issue
Thank you
Spill the beans then, which roles would you like?
Rock and Stone
kinda weird that it doesnt say anything about needing the roles though
It's to keep the stupid out
at some point i unselected class role coz i wanted to have union chapter name color, but then i lost permission to post pictures in #drg-gallery
and the whole union thing also broke at that point and i never got another prompt for chapter either
also theres bunch of channels in #welcome-and-rules what shows as "unknown" or "no access"
in all actuality it's because we can't update the welcome channel, but it does keep people who don't read and can't think to figure it out plus spammers contained as well
including gems like:
"Unknown : Guideline on how to report bugs and where to report them"
and "How to get on the experimental branch is explained in a pinned messaged in No Access. "
Second successful EDD ever!
2nd Stage was quite miserable before we got all the pipes set up but 1st and 3rd really was easier than expected, thanks Rich Atmosphere
Doing EDD solo rn
Stage 1 was just super annoying, as expected, since haunted cave just doesn't mix well with elimination. It's not difficult, it's just tedious trying to kite the horror around. That being said, there are 3 naedocyte breeders in this stage, and 2 are clustered in a relatively small room so beware. There's also one leech really close to a cave exit in the small dreadnought room so watch out for that if approaching the room from that entrance
I don’t even like haunted cave solo on a regular DD let alone elite
I still think the ghost’s speed should be fairly low in solo and increase with each player, but even solo he’s like a Ferrari
Stage 2 done. Despite the mutator, there's actually surprisingly very few cave leeches here (3-4 in total I think). Lots of nitra as well, and all the wells are rather easily reached (tho I had to use platforms for one of the wells due to its height difference). Pretty chill stage, except for the fact the game threw 3 bulks at me in total? Idk if bulks are random but, eh, yea just watch out.
I personally think the speed in solo has to be adjusted with anything else that is slow moving, such as Molly and dreadnoughts
It's not even because it's challenging, no, it's just bloody annoying and time-wasting
Yes in escort his speed can be raised a bit since you’re always going in one direction
But most everything else you’re running around in the same areas over and over and that’s when he can really catch you
Oh didn’t know
I know this isn't the right channel for this, but I'm having some issues with using different channels and joining voice channels. I did put roles in #welcome-and-rules so that can't be the issue. I don't really know what to do here
If this happens to be a "wait to be assigned the roles" kind of thing, my bad
And last but not least, Stage 3 done!
If you've focused on nitra collection for the previous 2 stages, you can half-ignore the nitra here, but if u are short, there's quite plentiful amounts here.
Easiest way to summarise the stage is: You dig through your first cave, Mactera jumpscare. You turn a corner, Mactera jumpscare. You are now about to start the Caretaker fight, believe it or not, Mactera jumpscare. But as long as you're always prepped for a Mactera jumpscare, they shouldn't pose that much of an issue imo
Build used for solo: LOK-1 [ECR], PGL [Hyper Prop], S.S.G
Nitra at end of EDD: 653
The bit might be having a fit atm
Alright, might resolve itself eventually
?
The bot is busted, which platform and class roles were you trying to get?
Steam and Scout. Unfortunate to hear the bot's broken
Yeah, it's fickle. Most discord bots weren't made to operate with servers of this size so it seems to work when it wants to
You're updated though
what level do I have to get to promote a dwarf
lvl 25
good, I am nearly there
Understandable, this server is huge
Much appreciated!
You can ask questions in #drg-chat about the game in general. You can use #lfg-steam to find players
Did they make the bot based off of Molly’s programming?
God damn, this EDD first stage is HARD
R&D already did that for me when they built her
Hi
Get yourself a role in https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/354250235419164682 👍
what’s good?
@errant dew all good but this ain't a chat for small talk. Get a role in welcome
<@&296918282403840000>
Yeahh
@errant dew Hey champ, did you try picking your roles yet?
how are the deep dives this week
easy
anyone wanna run a deep dive
Hi, I'm new to this server
and for some reason, I'm unable to access the drg-chat
can anyone help?
DD is fine, nothing too scary to consider, just as always watch out for the exploders in stage 3.
EDD is, imo, okayish, there are definitely harder EDDs but this one isn't exactly cakewalk either.
Stage 1 isn't hard, just horribly annoying so you need to be patient.
Stage 2 has relatively easy wells to reach, and there are also hardly any leeches despite the mutator (about 3-4 in the entire stage), but I had 3 bulks in my solo run so maybe watch out for that in case.
Stage 3 is me being biased cuz I.S. has always been my strongest mission so it was cakewalk on my end...but if you hate I.S. you're definitely going to hate it combined with Mactera Plague. Just make sure your setup is able to take down flying hordes of enemies in a short amount of time. If you mined enough nitra in the previous 2 stages, you can easily kinda ignore it altogether in the 3rd stage due to the abundance of it
Get it on sale no regrets
ok thx
i would like to personally insult mr ship games himself for making this edd
i will not be doing this one it does not look like what one would call "fun"
I’ve heard it actually not that bad
I tried doing it but lost connection to host in the first minute
this one is insufferable
Stage 2 swarms are crazy
industrial sabo plus mactera sounds like hell lol, even if not that bad I ain't coming near that hell combo.
Died to ghost or ?
My opinion of strategy on EDD
1st Stage, have someone lure the ghost around spawn or any good manuever large room
2nd Stage, just fight and look out for rollers
3rd Stage, Scout or Driller should have Cryo weapons, having 2 or 3 dwarves deal with the robots and one deal with the caretaker (usually Gunner)
I didn't have the best secondary for the run just now as an engineer, but doing these can probably win
the mactera sabo was the easiest part of the edd by far imo
rich atmosphere makes things stupid easy
Yuh i already did edd with randoms a while ago lol gonna prop do dd tomorrow i was engi i just was slaying although on stage 3 i regretted bring breach cutter but its all good i let excute carry
To be fair, breach cutter definitely helped in curbing the swarms you faced in the rest of the EDD
But yea, against caretaker, far from the best
Oh yeah 100% swarms weren’t the problem it was first playing engi in like a month too
Nicely done 
I personally soloed it as engie
Used the LOK-1 with ECR, and Hyper Prop for my secondary
This EDD was surprisingly easy as solo driller, I'm not even a great driller
Used Flamethrower (22331 LT), Subata (12121 OM), 1114 on C4.
The fix to make C4 round up makes the t1 mods a lot more competitive for sure.
#welcome-and-rules read and pick a role
damn! this week EDD is a breeze, so dont be afraid to try it out!
does season assignment actually give unique rewards or is it just minerals and extra season points
the litophage one gives scrip, the rest are just xp for the pass
read #welcome-and-rules and pick roles
Thanks
why do you sometimes not have to uplink but sometimes do need to uplink in salvage in deep dives
I completed 2 deep dives
1st one, member left during the final part, no cores, just got money
2nd deep dive, completed with all members present, but they left as soon as it was over.
NO CORES AGAIN, just worthless money
I checked my forge, nothing.
and the host did too
nothing
fuck deep dives, don't do'em
?
So did you complete it for the first time this week and tou didnt recieve any cores?
JMD Deutsch hier? xD
yea
thought it was a bug
because member left
on the final part
tried again
it shouldnt be like that
just worthless money
you recieve cores as soon as you complete one part of DD
exactly
are you new to the game?
I guess I am compared to all the Legendary 3's I see
what's legendary 3
I'm like blue 88, 192 hrs in
the highest rank someone can get
maybe you simply got all cores?
then its really strange
I'm like bronze 2 with all my chars
maybe you can find that bug?
I'd agrue I feel that playing driller
its fine playing scout but when you have to kill the swarm
I'm not going to play Deep dive ever again
scout doesnt really have genocide weapons
sad
pheromone fire bolts
when taking out the swarm, breach cutter is one of the most practical weapons
you click, bugs die

scout is the best class
what is the best class to begin with ?
any
also you'll want to ask this kind of questions in #drg-chat instead ^^
ah sorry thanks for the answer
hey i need some help with some stuff
can somone give me a hand the server and the miners unions acting up
@shell herald go to #welcome-and-rules and get a role so u can ask in #drg-chat
thank you so so much i salute you miner
Why not it's easy
If you’re a master ninja-roper scout you can probably solo
It's doable with any class. What holds you back is either experience, playstyle, build, or falling under pressure when the swarm starts surrounding you. All things that you will overcome with time and trial and error.
Just gotta do it more and more until you succeed
just a warning, dont everyone leave the droppod if you do the gunner zipline bug
It’s doable but some mutators like haunted cave are much easier in co-op
pretty sure its also easier in single player, since I believe its stomp attack can't 1 shot you in solo
Maybe, but i meant more unlimited revives vs Bosco’s max of 4, and it can’t decide who to aggro sometimes which helps make it waste time
I feel like it makes it more predictable since its always chasing you, while if theres others, it can go in various directions and might catch you off guard
There’s times in solo when I thought it was farther away than it was/I had more time than I did
I know it shimmers but it can still be hard to see sometimes
Maybe you didn't notice the cores, considering that they're given to you after each stage of a deep dive, sounds like you just didn't notice. Also, deep dives are fun?
There's a haunted visibility mod
this was a fun little regular DD, I don't think I'll be soloing the EDD though 💀
Host just banned me from EDD because of fat boy usage 
thats not very rock and stone of them
its also not the worst option for this edd since its sabo
host think that radiation hurting the team while im really shooting the dreadnought 
Hyper prop is a better choice for this one, but fat boy is funnier
don't fatboy the dreadnought
Please do not the Dreadnought
Please Dreadnaught
Please
Me causing more damage to the team than fatboy engi ever could with lsls
(Stop walking into my stream of bullets)
are deep dives the best way to farm shmoney even after oyu gotten all the matrix cores from them for the week
if there's a particularly easy dive that you can do in ~20m, maybe?
IMO once you get to a certain experience level, solo deep dives tend to be easier than co-op deep dives due to scaling reasons
But that's in general. If your co-op team is full of greybeards, then you'll have an easier time than solo, it's just that that doesn't happen as often
did the edd, third stage some goober of a stingtail threw the engi into a ball pit, the scout dies randomly and the driller dcs
i almost clutch then i die to a random pit
I will keep in mind that the edd has various ball pits you might fall into 
i cant post in DRG chat, and my game crashes on startup
how do i fix my game, ive done auto-verify of the game files, ive reinstalled, ive restarted my comp
just bought it yesterday
read #welcome-and-rules and pick roles
you can then post in #bug-discussion
double xp/mineral mania normal missions are still by far the better way for xp/money(sell the minerals)
xp or money per unit time, if ur great at speedrunning sometimes dd/edds are worth way more
though
he say like
please try other build and
right i have like red promotion and already try all build
and yeah fat boy gonna waste anyway when resupply so
shoud i just sell off all the mineral i have rn then just farm them back up with mineral mania?
you shouldn't really sell minerals
unless you're really struggling with money
or have a shit ton of minerals
uh lemme jump on and see what im at rn
because trust me when I say that you're gonna need a lot of them 
iirc ive got less than 1000 gold
also, the answer is no
they take too long, unless you're good at speedrunning through them
sell off excess >5-6k(?, croppa and the other mineral comes to mind), but not all (i keep 2-3k especially for magnite/enor)
what ser said is right, you will need alot of minerals
but if you cant use it i dont see the point of hoarding it either
if you are relatively new though, just play missions. resources are always scarce for any game you are starting out anyway
i got like 500 of most materials 🧍
yeah then my suggestion is really bad, never sell off minerals that you need
hey i just played and carried you through an edd, pls dont let the red promotions make you feel like you are good at the game
you were an absolutely brain dead scout
thanks for occassionally using a flaregun
i would insta ban you for your general playstyle anytime
so I just got into deep dives
no not salty i dont like ppl posting one sided msgs about how the other person is the idiot
I would like to add that I was host of this EDD and @turbid dawn (driller) had more minerals deposited by the end
so uhh
idk what that means lol i play this game casually for fun
so do we all
Rock n Stone.. remember to enjoy your time in the darkest caves
I died to fall damage
bowomp
try to find a team in #lfg-steam
or other lfg sources
depends on ur timezone
When I join any server it crashes
skill issues i see
its funkin 2am
edd dark morkite driller is taken
enge is taken
scot is now taken
and thats it
I love gunner.
I dont get to do anything when theres no bugs around
Hot damn, the first cave of the EDD something else
what's the EDD looking like this wweek
Some say it’s easy, some say it’s hard. Just like every week
Elimination haunted cave 
i saw 
mactera plague sabotage
do macter spawn during the caretaker fight
I remember seeing at least one
noted
It could’ve been just some random brundle who got lost though
I can’t remember if I saw a big group or something
Honestly wasn't too crazy..took and 1h 15m and was pretty fun. Last stage wasn't as bad as it sounds tbh
what’s the topography for the last stage looking like
But I had a pretty decent team. Half above 150, half near 50 rank
got a spitballer outside of drop pod on stage 2 that forced us all into a pit with a ton of balls
wasnt fun
and our driller had just left so
unfortunate for us
also gotta say shoutout to the scout we had named bismor
On console the main room is pretty alright. Both rooms for hacksy were decent fights and not too far iirc
he wasnt good
i mean
he wasnt bad
but idk everything he did was so funny
like the dude somehow ended up dead on top of a crystal
and i had to pancake stack up to him
Summary of every EDD indeed
Except, of course, any EDD ending with swarmaggedon
Those are objectively hard (real)

may someone tell me why cant i type on drg chat and some other channels
Just read the https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/354250235419164682 tab and pick a role and you should be all good 
ah okay ty
no same rules as a cancel for announced swarms
pls dont spread random info
I mean it's not necessarily false, sometimes the things spawn before you activate the boss, but don't come right away
It is false, once you activate the boss nothing else spawns
You can activate the boss after a spawn forms and then say hey mactera was there
But there is no more spawns after the catetaket is active
That's what I wrote
Cute, don't add to ambiguity, no more spawns if one pulls batteries
I don't see how it is ambiguous, he saw a mactera during the boss, which is possible if it spawned before the boss
They saw a mactera, doesn't mean at all that it spawned pist batteries
please tell me where does my message say that it spawned post batteries
Pls tell me where you read the original question
The answer is no
Someones crabby
is there extra rewards for doing EDD or just an extra challenge?
Did you?
He answered what happened and why just just one message down
Hola
Hi
Looking to see why you can't chat elsewhere? 
Maybe
Just read the https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/354250235419164682 tab and pick a role and you should be all good 
Epic
they have their own rewards separate from the regular deep dive, if that's what you're asking
didn't know that, thanks. I rarely do EDD because they don't go well usually
It's only really the 3 more cores and some xp bonus and credit bonus
"Assuming successful completion, a regular Deep Dive always awards 15750 Experience Points, 15750 credits and 1537 Performance Points, while an Elite Deep Dive always awards 20250 Experience Points, 20250 credits and 1731 performance points. Extra experience from all sources except mission objectives is disabled, however players can still earn extra credits by mining Gold."
This is from the wiki page
If you don't care about the cosmetic core, you can just try your best to get the first 2 levels done, that's still a blank and a weapon extra
even getting past the first stage is a huge headache, but that also works
These past few weeks have been quite difficult 
s
three sabotage weeks in a row is a real fuck you from the game
Should I have a full group to do deep dives?
It really helps on Elite Deep Dives
For regular deep dives, you can get through it without a full team. On elite deep dives, you really want a full team
At least that's how it is in my experience
same here
if you're a pro you can probably do it solo
but i always do deep dives with a team
i could probably do a regular deep dive without one but i'd miss the company of my fellow dwarves
Bosco may be a great teammate but spending an hour down there with only bosco is so lonely 
Depends on your team competency if talking about EDD. You don't just want a full team for EDD, you want a team that kinda knows what they're doing
A bad, or sometimes even an average team, would stand a lower chance of survival than a solo in my experience. Most people kind of forget to account for how steep the scaling is in EDD. As a solo player, you'll only be facing up to 0.85x the enemies and 3x the enemy dmg. In a full team, and suddenly that's 1.5x the amount of enemies and 3.6x the enemy dmg. If your team members are constantly dying, you will have a much, much harder time having to deal with those numbers
For DD, well, it doesn't matter much tbh, but I'd recommend a team just cuz it's more fun that way
better then nothing
though i rarely in edd so its not like im gonna good at it anyway
I can sometimes forget so
its not like im gonna use it for every edd and only use cases are for caretaker
but doesnt mean i cant do C4 driller
after all i didnt serious much about EDD
yes i might sometime bring wrong for flexing but i can change build if they dont like it
its just felt bad when host dont even give a chance for me to change and banned me after entire team down but me
Not entirely sure of the full story, but it sounds like a lack of communication is the problem here
short story
I only talk about last session that host ban
and after that i join his lobby though public lobby
yes i didnt do anything much in edd because of my build didnt go for single target damage
pheromone stuff
i didnt mean red promote gonna be a pro skill only
i only mean red promote for known which weapons is the best for which stuff
but im apology if i did something wrong
and true that i didnt join the mic but its because im busy with other mic
no one is perfect that all i can say
Ye this is a certified miscommunication moment
its could just chat ingame

I mean yeah i do flare gun helping when they asked but if i didnt in mic he could have told what i should bring
whatever its already win so i dont want to get serious about it
Ah, well, no worries man. The best thing is that you're aware of what might have went wrong, and so the best thing to do forward would just be to ensure communication is proper
1 person banning you? Big deal, there's like a bajillion other people to join and get a good rep with

i will do my best when next EDD come 
Do I get anything other than gold and xp for doing an elite deep dive more than once?



