#deep-dive-discussion
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driller can’t really reach his true potential on haz 5 cus theyr aren’t enough bugs on haz 5 to really see how amazing his crowd clear abilities are
if you can play without a gunner its a sign that you're playing on a difficulty that isn't capable of providing a challenge
gunner feels weak when engi turrets kill all the bugs in haz 3
hazard 5 is an easy wlk i just didnt knew a hazrad 6 was there
i m hyped to try it though
fair enough
i never play under hazrad 5
nothing wrong with playing below haz 5 or any other difficulty level btw. I just think gunner really feels more useful the higher the difficulty level is
I m not degrading them just hazard 5 barely is a challenge just that you said hazard 3 the engi feels god but even in hazard 5 he does
I think people most of the time don t even refill turrets and don t use all the angle of it
engi feels amazing on any difficulty he can burst down the swarm before it reaches him. As soon as the quantity of bugs is more then a couple bc shots can handle, things start to get interesting
If youre on like haz 2, by the time your minigun spools up the enemies are dead anyways
Ahah fair enough
But yeah a swarm gets cleared way faster by a driller I believe
Gunner is peak for big lads
That s right most engi just stress up
and Lots of Speadter and Stingtails
Should I even take born ready if I use crisper and subata explosive reload. Like I need to reload on subata for OC to work
For EDD
So idk if it would be worth
True, second stage was the hardest, but not too hard
Haven't used IW once this time
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What kind of build do y’all like to run for general purpose gunner
I’ve been doing neurotoxin with six shooter recently but I feel like I should change it up
Especially if there’s a dreadnought secondary
JFH with Hellfire is my all-purpose build
id also run JFH hellfire but I don’t have hellfire so I use neurotoxin magic bullet
lsls + hellfire works always but can get boring quick
most hurricane builds are solid general purpose in themselves
burning hell is quite versatile too
yes but he's concerned about the dreadnought secondary and burning hell is useless there
the upside is pointless and you'll have to deal with the downside
usually the downside is an upside but hot bullets barely does anything to dreads
i run burning hell and volatile bullets almost constantly now because it's so much fun
and you'll fuck over your teammates trying to freeze the dread
if ur teammates are trying to freeze it just use your secondary
and if your weapon is going to heat also just swap to secondary
then swap back when it cools down again
nice, my primary is now completely useless during this bossfight
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/931475604568690710.webp?size=48&name=what&quality=lossless you're the one here trying to tell me that burning hell is useful on elimation
he just said it's good enough to do the job lol
i just said that
ok so pick aggressive venting instead of hot bullets?
and even if you pick hot bullets if you're careful you can keep the heat low enough that you dont activate hot bullets
why do you need to go through all that trouble just so you can use burning hell?
literally just choose a weapon thats better at single target DPS
"what kind of build do yall like to run for general purpose gunner"
"oh you should pick a single target dmg build"
🤦♀️
yeah all the trouble of equipping aggressive venting
i just said better
not something hyper focused into single target
have you forgotten what the guy even wanted?
he wants better dps for the dreadnought
burning hell does not provide that
did you even read what they said?
ANYTHING is an upgrade for single target DPS compared to NTP autocannon
thats not a high bar to clear
so why exactly are you saying that's not a bar burning hell clears
For elim specifically just run LSLS
it does clear it but comes with other downsides for killing dreads
burning hell beats NTP in terms of single target dps not because it makes the miniguns dps better but because ntp has shit dps
and its a viable general purpose pick because the minigun has fine dps to begin with
damn you've already forgotten about how it ruins cryo
ig thats just your attention span
says the one who thinks it's too much effort to pull out a secondary
volatile bullets bulldog WOW just the thing i need for MASSIVE single target dps... oh wait dreads cant be ignited
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nobody said you have to run vb as secondary
^
lol
burning hell with no vb?
yes?
yes?
because running lsls 24/7 gets boring fast
I mean just only run it for elim
Other missions use burning hell
Rock and Stone!
guys i have 2 questions:
Just joined server with alt account and i cant text in drg char
are there any channels where i can find dudes to play with me?
im sorry we got into an argument over your question
Just got a nemesis on the first step
Imma cry

hi all
hi
And a bulk on the second stage
Guess I will retry the deepdive
This time without bs rng
We had 2
and 1 in the first stage
Amazing
Problem being I mostly play solo so after getting downed twice due to stupid reasons i failed it
Run IW if solo
On scout IW + heightened senses is my fav solo combo
True you might be onto something there
IW+vampire
clutch perks
I need to experiment with em. Or find/god forbid host some so I can get the haz5 stuff unlocked
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Dear mods, I was wondering why I am unable to chat in the main channels, Best, Average D
#welcome-and-rules pick a role
@unique ore Thank you 😅
I got a question how exactly do I promote Gunner?
Breach cutter plus ECR lok1 shredded nemesis for me on EDD
Also does well to bulks
Engi was really convenient this EDD imo, got 42 min. time no deaths with him on a blind run
The firepower can really do well
I would say engi is best for this EDD (for succeeding) because of escort and salvage on the first two stages
get him to level 25, do the gunner promotion assignment, then go to the terminal on the back of the statues
there, pay your fees and get promoted
in other companies - you get promoted to get paid more
at DRG - you pay more to get promoted
Okay, thanks guys
Makes sense to me
Tho wouldnt it make sense that you get paid more for ur promotion?
Like in mission
also, if you want to play deep dives, you can only play as the class you promoted
The more u promote, the more creds missions give u
(that was the reason for my promotion grind on all 4 classes)
I have to complete a sabotage for my first mission assignment to promote gunner. Oof
Wait, wrong chat
how is it going?
Idk why you can’t just play as any class once u promote
I guess to make sure ppl have mods for their weapons
well uh
i only bought mods when i started playing deep dives
that 2nd stage on the EDD is so bullshit
my modded lobbys arent that horrendous lol
TIL
Have you done one where Bosco comes along? I’m not PC but some friends were doing that
hi guys
Phase 2 sucks on EDD
Like the horde isn’t super bad if there weren’t like three stingtails in it
regen stingtails on 2nd mission of the elite deep dive lol. I dont have the crayons for this
regen warning is underestimated by many tbh
people talk about how shit like low o2 is bad but regen can be awful to deal with in salvage and egg hunts especially
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regen is really not that bad
you shud be focusing on high priority targets anyways so they really shud not be regenerating
stingtails are fine i just hate how large the room is and the amount of enemies in the room
Stingtails are fine
It’s just the number in a horde
I got pulled out of my IW and attempted resupply from them and lost because of it
stingtail are easily the highest priority target in the game atm
It’d be great if the horde didn’t take my full attention/ammo
It’s just like
Stingtails suck and they need to be reworked
They need to not be able to grab so often or from so far away
yeah if you are solo, multiple stingtails really highlight its design issues
What is a spiny tail?
Nah I think they r fine. U just really need to drop everything and deal with them. I’m not greedy, I drop my shield allow myself to hard focus them if 2 or more spawn at once
But it is an attention suck from the rest of the swarm
When they come during a non wave swarm is the worst at it really slows down your obj progress
it's ironic when your run in DD is a bit more challenging than EDD 
because we dont have driller
i ought to retry that DD again with driller POV
Stingtails really shouldn’t be able to pull you in IW, other than that I’m not that bothered by them
Or at least if you’re interacting with resup or some other “hold the button” thing
It really does sting when a good deep dive dies because of getting pulled while reviving or resupplying, but to me they make up for it because they make other dives so much more exciting and thrilling. I feel like the dives have gotten stale so I appreciate when there's a few games where I'm playing something completely horrifying
yup sting tail really reshape your priority. I still find people asking, why not revive me first? and my answer would be "if sting tail is still iin sight, you bet Im going after that first"
what is this weeks normal dd (not for this reset but rn) missions
i see now! thanks :D.
Really?
uhh this isnt true
this is false
although i believe OPs post is being taken out of context
for anyone looking this is not true and out of context
Fact checkers in the drg Discord 
Bosco is fun to bring sometimes but it removes your multiplayer voicelines so I don't bring him anymore.
He definitely does help though, especially on refinery missions.
The 2 breeders regenerating 80% of their hp because 2 wardens, 5 stingtails and 3 septic spreaders show up: 
I wish I was exaggerating that was hell
Get a role in #welcome-and-rules
Thanks
at what time is dd reset
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And here we go


Weekly Deep Dives information for 2023-09-14 to 2023-09-21.
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DEEP DIVE 
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Corrosive Hell
Stage 1:
Escort Duty +
150 Morkite |
Exploder Infestation
Stage 2:
2 Dreadnoughts (Classic + Twins) +
Black Box | No Mutator
Stage 3:
200 Morkite +
2 Eggs |
Regenerative Bugs
ELITE DEEP DIVE 
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Second Let-down
Stage 1:
7 Aquarqs +
Twins |
Mactera Plague
Stage 2:
On-Site Refinery +
Black Box |
Critical Weakness
Stage 3:
6 Eggs +
Black Box |
Cave Leech Cluster
11m damn
Also this will be the last week I'm providing DD info since I will be busy with other things going forward (others can use the same tools, the DD info auto collector mod, DD info formatter etc. to obtain the same information quickly).
oh no
someone in my team forgot to sobre up
we drank so many of the seasonal beer
their screen must be so screwed
hes doing the drunk talk
Lootbugs is the new strat for nitra in deepdives
This week is gonna be easy
Point extraction and refining augghhh
Glad that stage 2 has critical weakness
First 2 stages gonna take lots of time but stage 3 sounds easy
Truly thank you for helping us all this time mem, wish you luck and courage in your next journey ❤️ 
holy shit
recommended drinks for edd: backbreaker stout, you can carry faster
red rock blasters, more health less death
slayer stout if you like power attacks
when i did the normal deep dive
at stage 3
it took so long for molly to arrive
the doors opened at 30 seconds
A new day a new Deep dive you guys ready
good morning drg, i think this is gonna be a wonderful day
the 3rd stage of the EDD is actual pain
How is EDD
Bro why is stage 1 a repeat from 2 weeks ago
I’m ready for the aids this time
How bad is the refinery cave generation
Bc I might just scout
this week's DD was supremely boring ngl 
would you rather do yesterday's DD or EDD
70% of the time was just zipping thru caves for morkite and guarding doretta
ye, last week's DD was way more fun
heard the EDD was hell though
so I didn't even try
i always died at stage 2
this one was alot better
I did the DD very fast
the EDD was alright except for stage 3
so many spawner enemies, so many stabber vines and so many leeches
the only scary part was molly arriving at the drop pod extremely late #modded-gallery message
Its not a bug get a role in #welcome-and-rules
As someone who has never won an EDD before, seeing Hollow Bough already makes me lose all hope
🫠
at least it's not the ice biome
@fleet lotus
I hope the 1st stage of EDD is fine, being able to walk away with just a blank core is better than nothing
gotta at least get stage 2
You overestimate my skill
stage 1 with mactera plague looks rough
I'm dreading that
if you can get past that the rest of the dive looks fine
Stage 1 is best to have mactera plague on though
Especially since its PE so should be fairly quick
You can also kill one of the Twins with the mine head landing. Just have to pop the cocoon immediately
How reliable is that? Any positioning we should do to make it happen?
I did it the first try using Scout. Pop the cocoon and stand on the opposite side of where the mine head lands. Usually what happens is the Lacerator will charge towards you and the mine head will land on it. The Arbalest is usually off doing its own thing on the wall somewhere.
Anyone tried the Edd yet? If so, how’s the layout?
Good thing you have a UPS…right?
We have a generator for the winter when power outages are expected
Oh you meant that
Uninterruptible power supply yeah
Time to hunt for a Deep Dive 
hopefully the host doesn't have their internet die on stage 3
First Oktoberfest and first Deep Dive ccompletion. Lets go
first one is easy, second is mildly annoying, third is pain
first layout is basically point extraction
2nd has two low down pumpjacks with the third pumpjack and refinery high up
3rd level is massive cave full of leeches, spawner enemies and stabber vines galore
Sounds fun, thanks
blackbox also spawned close to the refinery
3rd sounds similar to 2nd last week
hi
Eww
How is cave generation in stage 1. Last time I had to pe scout+ black box bc cave generation was so bad
But if it’s not terrible I might go gunner or driller
as a greenbeard
i fear and dread the edd
Some of them don’t have to be feared
you mean the stages or the edds?
Yea
i have learned nothing, thanks
that edd looks ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I think morkite is usually used as a secondary objective right
Hi
This is why I always take dark morkite
How is it this week?
dd kinda boring, edd pretty fun, both very doable
edd stage 2 pretty annoying since theres not that much space to move around, stage 3 on the other hand is one of the biggest rooms i've seen lmao
dd was boring indeed, edd was pretty easy, expect a bulk on the escort mission fyi
I died a lot on edd, my team did not
dd was relaxing after a butt cletching elite deep dive
why do i feel like my beard is getting less green?
wisdom is most definitely not green
Btw I only died like 1 or 2 times in the DD
Was because of me being dumb and getting near the dreadnought
There is one piece of advice I learned: shoot n run, dont jump into hoardes of enemies, use your ammo efficiently
thats 3 separate pieces of information!
damn this elite dive is very hard
i got lucky with da team
naw it was all good
uhh if you still haven't done it, then the first stage is fine, the second stage refinery is in a pit making it a bit of a pain, and the third stage has a massive ass pit
other than that just regular hollow bough stuff
Jesus Christ first stage is cancer if not scout or driller
Trying to get to drop pod and I need to pop my shield and blow 2 lead bursters bc mactera just stun lock me off my zip line
I was barely able to complete it even w Dark Morkite lmao
good luck if you don't have that
TL:DR have a driller?
or be a scout
Big warning bosco will not kill some of the cave Leeches last stage
I got grabbed and excpexted to die but bosco usually kills the cave leech. He just flew around me doing nothing
Some weird terrain caused him to just not attack cave leechers even if ur grabbed and he’s right next to you
I’m just doing scout EDD from now on
Last stage if u fall down and not driller or scout ur kinda fucked
Another reason Bosco needs a buff? 🤔
Nah just he doesn’t work around certain terrain
An AI improvement is technically a buff
Anyone know the chances of having back to back golden detonators
100%
Im just tryna grind out missions and i get this shit 💀
I'd assume so
Anyways I had a mission where I was inside the uplink zone with another dude
for 50% it was just me
then the next 25% just him and me
Then I said twice in chat "In the zone" and the other two dudes finally meandered over
3% chance twice in a row lmfao
I am still kinda annoyed from them
Ok I just EDD again
Scout EDD is just easy mode
It’s not comparable how much more efficient scout is solo vs other classes
I did gunner last time
Failed last stage bc I fell down in pit and got fucked by everything trying to get back up
Heightened senses is also criminally underrated. Not just for stopping grab but for you attention. Like first stage I see mactera swarm on me and the grabber. I’m gonna get beamed spending time to kill the grabber so I just kill mactera instead and then just use the perk to kill grabber
mmmm that crit weakness on stage 2
i use it solo bc bosco is too slow for leeches half the time, and it usually gives me enough time to react to whatever is grabbing me. where it really shines is in tall caves, when you cant even hear a leech coming down
Ik it’s pog. My issue is I look up and don’t see a leech and get grabbed in same spot 10 seconds later
They can hide and reach over objects
hate the awkward angle ones
I’m debating dropping IW and going dash+heighten senses for solo
Bc bosco can rez anyways
got special powder from my dd 
IW seems pointless for solo when Bosco can just rez
3% * 3% = 0.09%
By any chance can I just copy your loadout please.
Haven't completed a solo edd with scout yet because he lacks utilities for large swarms. or is it my playstyle hindering me so I need to get good?😂
Just doing fine solo edd with driller or engi, I can't solo EED with gunner since he doesn't have a fast way of going up, unless your friendly neighbor hood sting tail/ cave leech/ shellback helps you get up there.
For sure. But scout is not better in all aspects. He def struggles more on salvage or black box. I use Drak with aggressive venting 11312 for great scout cc and then I Zhukov embedded detonators 13232 for single target damage. It’s very versatile. You can also do the reverse and have ur primary be single target with m1k and a secondary cc with either fire bolt or boom stick. M1k + boom stick is def most OCless friendly solo scout build. And for nade I highly recommend pheromone. It’s one of scouts few saving graces on black box. Use them to stall for time and buy yourself breathing room. Always call a drop pod inside the black box area to be able to get more health or nades in a pinch
for solo scout perks I recommend heighten senses as grabs are honestly the major reason I would ever die. And even if ur very attentive it can let you kill a grabber and save ammo or not need to focus it
Heightened senses, iron will, resupplier born ready and vampire
Scout really doesn’t need dash and field medic is useless solo
Other active perks are not great
doing regular dd and it's me and two greenbeards after engi dropped
you have slots avail?
edit: sorry was thinking it was a LFG room
aight, I have alomost all the oc on m1k which one you think is best for current eed?
why do people have to start black boxes during a swarm
especially when i'm obviously not ready because i'm asking for a plat to get red sugar first
and then i don't get one so i have to try to balance on the red sugar crystal instead and obviously i fall off and die
hello, this is my first time on the server and I'm unable to chat in some of the other channels
can someone help me out
read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role
ok thank you very much
and then host bans me as though it's my fault i want to heal before black box
For m1k hover or ASS are good
Assisted stability system or whatever it’s called
I'm still a bit confused on how I'm able to type or get a role from #welcome-and-rules
you need to react
how do I react to the #welcome-and-rules , i dont see an option to react to anything.
platform roles, class roles
especially when i asked for the plat for the sugar several minutes prior
Should I be a Gunner or an Engineer. On one hand I like big man with big gun go BRRRRRRR!!!!!! But on the other hand I want to be Oppenheimer.
doesn't really matter when it comes to the roles in the discord
I think I'll go for Gunner, it was my first class I upgraded
wdyn brother
oh no
what parts of a DD are the same between missions?
which alien egg spawns a swarm? if a nemesis is spawned?
I can't help right now but I'll go into some of the other chanels to see if someone else can.
spawn pools and things like swarms from eggs remain the same
like uhhh dreads too
u may get like more of a certain thing in a run but i believe they will always spawn
like stage 1 of edd will always have mactera of some sort and shit
The EDD is actually pretty fun
Just watch your step
Also my stage 3 had 5 ducking brood nexuses and 4 or so spitballers in that one large room
It was kinda bonkers
and i'm cool with playing fast, i even did the aquarqs quickly in stage 1, just i hate people rushing
Oh
So things like those arent fixed?
Think it can vary a bit
Especially with different amounts of players
For instance, last EDD I had 2 naedo breeders when I tried solo on stage 2
In a full 4 run I had 1
I lost the solo btw, wonder what could have possibly caused that
Wonder how new season dives will be
What new fun enemies will be added
I did say I should reduce my exposure to this chat more kek
Something as good as the stingtails?
I wait for the stealth enemies
actually excited if they do it next season
so long there is audio sound, a shimmer as if a visual cue. It will be fun to have
this edd pretty easy, biggest threat is a dwarf starting black box during swarm
or with people not ready
question, can a swarm start if you start black box before the warning?
I believe so, and you'll get the scheduled swarm on top of the black box swarm.
EDD was much easier this week.
Saw fewer mactera on stage 1 than I was expecting.
so then why do people even want to rush starting the black box if the swarm alert is probably coming very soon
or worse, the swarm alert comes and they start it anyways
I think black box activation pauses the swarm timer. I'm not sure. If a swarm is called, though, it still happens.
And the latter is people being inexperienced or way too overconfident.
Or they want a challenge.
unless like, you have four greybeards who are fine with stacking black box with swarm
also unless it's a low nitra mission or you explicitly say it's a speedrun lobby, no need to rush
box can wait for after swarm
this is the most efficient way to do it cause you can fail an redo box afaik, never failed box though.
Is it “efficient” time and exp-wise to do edds
every idea depends on some assumptions
they are independent
no afaik
unless you pull an egg etc to trigger one
If you haven't done the Deep Dive yet, remember to play Corrosive Sludge Pump Driller only, to create a Corrosive Hell for the glyphids (the mission name)
The elite deep dive works well with the cryo cannon (mactera plague stage 1) and also with the sludge pump, even though it's not called corrosive hell
Oh and btw
2 eggs out of 6 cause big swarms
Other 4 cause "miniswarms"
Basically hoardes of enemies not labelled swarms by Msn Ctrl
Miniswarms are quite common for haz 5
Also Point Extraction
Mini-swarms are abundant there
Further context on the 2 out of 6 swarm thing, the amount of swarms from Egg Hunts are based on mission length, 1-3 swarms respectively. 4 eggs = 1, 8 eggs = 3, and which eggs spawn swarms are purely random
damn
do the aquarqs also cause miniswarms?
The way point extraction works is that every once in a while you'll randomly get an unannounced miniswarm, then the more time u spend in the mission the less time there is between each of the miniswarms
The announced swarms afaik aren't affected by how much time u spend in the mission but I could be wrong
once in a while being every 55s at first, with each subsquent mini-swarms lowering this delay (down to 40s max) and growing in size everytime (with no real limits).
and I confirm that announced swarms are completely unaffected by this mechanic.
hello
hi
bro
Check #welcome-and-rules to get roles
How's the edd this week
easy
not too much mactera
and you can speedrun the rest
This is the only way allowed to complete this week's DD
I agree
Wrong. The time between them never changes, though they will have more enemies in them. This makes dealing with them take a longer time, meaning the next miniswarm might start before you've dealt with the previous one, giving the illusion of faster swarm rate
Source: A youtube video talking about common misconceptions, forgot which one
#wiki-related-chatroom message
This will interest you, i think
read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role
aight
getting hammered on the wurst beers is also necessary, otherwise you won't get cores this week
yes
i did the edd completely hammered on beers to get those succulent cores
now i have 9 blank cores
We're rich
is stage 3 in elite deep dive bugged, got dc'ed
My connection just dropped going into stage 3 of deep dive
we have like 1k gold
I am very sadge
We're rich
We're rich
Same
.
Thanks
There is a discord server link in #deep-dive-speedrunning is that supposed to be there
i dont have friends to do the elite :(
Doing EDD with randoms is generally fine
Whats should I expect for this weeks edd and dd
The DD is rather easy
I imagine that's the case, haven't tried it yet but i'm about to
if you want specifics, check the pinned messages
Ok thx
doing this DD made me remember how ass bosco is when it comes to defending the drilldozer
update: yeah that was easy lol
Same
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Oh i ddint know roles were mandatory thanks
For those of you who claim season 4 didn't have enough content, remember GSG was making 2 games at once. DRG and DRG surviver
wtf is your pfp
Fr
read #welcome-and-rules
it’s saying “check out deep dive discussions” oml
I did
but I literally can’t type in #drg-chat ._.
“done reading? Check out deep dive discussion” like really
you need a role from #welcome-and-rules which you would know if you looked back 5 messages
I heard Deep Dives get harder the longer you take because the swarms get worse and worse. Is that true? I haven’t done one yet looking to do one tonight just preparing myself. Looks like I should try and speed run it if that’s true lol
FOR ROCK AND STONE
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE! 
this is specifically for point extraction missions and applies regardless of if it's a deep dive or not
So I can take my time on DDs as long as it’s not currently a Point Extraction?
yup
Thanks 🙏
Aight aight will try again, thanks
@nova jolt caretaker tips as solo driller haz 3-4.
-flames or acid is efficient here in that order
-starting have bosco mine as much nitra
-drill down 45* below burst turrets remove them
-power attack the other turrent that pushes you (can't believe I forgot the name).
-have drill up to drill shreders.
-use secondary for sniper turrets
-drill from hackbot to Power Station as much as possible - while doing so you can command bosco to mine stuff
- save your c4 to dive bomb caretaker (c4 ammo damage perks based on what works for you)
-point the ceiling above the caretaker - set up way point for the by ctrl e (hold control to show waypoint)
-make a spacious tunnel from bellow towards the waypoint in such a way that you only have a small hole to throw c4 on top of caretaker. - spread your supply drop in the spacious tunnel in case of phasebombs
- remove batteries -run up your tunnel network wait for caretaker to be vulnerable,
-drop bombs to remove corner vents
-go down use secondary to shoot mouth/eye? or charged goo attacks - keep moving dash/ sprinter recommended here and if its phase bombs wait for the 5 sec cooldown after a phase bomb barrage to do resupply or what ever that requires standing still for more that 7 seconds
-rinse repeat until last phase where you can try to drop c4 on the mouth/eye? (it works for my friends but cant seem to drop the c4 and detonate it to damage the mouth/eye - maybe skill issue on my part)
-if you want to be extra safe have bosco perk prio digging on 1st but rev on others - or just all revive since you are testing this strat out.
warning after knowing this strat you might mald when join rando's since it is not required in a full squad.
not trying to tell you how to play this type of mission - but trying this might suit you. still i encourage you to try something else that your fancy
shield turrets
you don't have permission to DGR- Chat to?
No
I clearly haven’t rock and stoned enough
maybe so
yeah that- thanks! For rock and stone!
#welcome-and-rules and pick role
Your instructions aren’t clear enough for a drunk dwarf like me
In #welcome-and-rules, pick one of the platform roles
Near the bottom
Thx
thank you
I figured it out
Click a dwarf reaction
there are so few gunners
lol
I liked how dd discussion and dd speed running is open for people who did not react.
ps. ive been here for months but have onyl reacted
I have only been checking dddiscussion for dd and edd info and watch videos on dd runs 😂
so thanks @autumn cloak@crimson cliff @tacit iris hahaha I only found out about that.
I'm lost like a drunk dwarf but sure, Rock and Stone brother 
if you werent discussing it I would've gone the opposite direction of the drop pod. 😂
Sort of. Most mission types still have periodic waves and some have periodic swarms, even if the waves don't get bigger over time like in PE. So if you take too long you might run out of ammo/nitra, but besides that it shouldn't get overwhelming just from taking your time.
3rd attempt doing an EDD in my life, 1st stage was fine
Failed the 2nd stage less than 2 minutes in
Got stabbed off the drop pod, 1 revive down
Tried to run up to the Minehead, 2 sets of stabber vines again, down
Went to get red sugar, bulk spawned next to me and Bosco shot it so it instantly attacked
Will wait for an easier one . w.
Is it just me or servers are kinda laggy right now?
@cerulean plinth
Completed my first deep dive just now 🙌
Why can't I chat in general chat?
read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role
Another mactera plague...
nice
It's on stage 1 so it's not that bad
What is deep dive im level 25 ab to promote?
3 missions played in a row with two primary objectives to complete each. First gives a blank matrix core, second gives a weapon OC matrix core and third gives a cosmetic matrix core
Normal deep dives start at hazard 3, and each subsequent stage gets a bit harder.
Second stage is haz 3.5 and last stage is also haz 3.5
Elite Deep Dives starts at 4.5 and end at 5.5
Do you get better loot from elite?
no, you get the same type of rewards as the normal dive
Then why do eilte
for the challenge and for the extra core. You can't farm deep dives. You only get the reward once per week.
Ohhh
Are deep dives possible solo?
Ofc
Do i need to be godlike
not really
You just gotta know what you're doing cause a mistake could lead you down a slippery slope but God tier skills aren't needed to solo it
It doesn't cost anything other than time if you fail anyway so it's worth practicing it anyway I'd you're not sure
Is the refinery cave gen on the EDD any better? Or is there another well 50m above the refinery again?
hey
you just need to have previous experience with doing missions solo
Well i did all of missions in the game solo as scout ab to promote him
you'll be fine
For deep dives, no. But EDDs can be difficult.
Depends on the hazard level you're used to
every week
Next reset is <t:1695294000:F>
Same time every week
Ok thanks!
its doable without much work, one of the pumps is a little higher but i bridged it off the rig without any issues and another one is just out of reach but a single power attack gets you there iirc
maybe a little digging but nothing too bad
Yeah, I managed it as solo gunner
I was going onto the last stage, but I took a break
With critical weakness, it was actually a pretty smooth stage
Stage 1 was hell trying to get to the drop pod though with the endless mactera
Because I had to cross the pit
guys
i swear
if one more stingtail
throws me off a cliff
im gonna break my monitor
Yeah that’s aggravating
3 stingtails at once while solo makes me wanna become the joker
oops all stingtails
Oops, I stingtailed again. Got tossed of a cliff, oh baby baby
man i hope stingtails get nerfed soon
lol
EDD this week is like the cocktail of everything hated... macteras, hollowbough, swarmers, spitter, leech
Wasn't that bad for me, compared to last week's at least.
But I get the frustration.
Got downed by one myself, but I think red rock blasters helped negate a lot of the stingtail fling fall damage to me.
yeah, I got it on the third try, then I try again just to see if im improving
Xcuse me
Green beard here
So, last deep dive stage we encountered a bulk detonator
Are those also pre generated?
they aren't
So if I replay DD it may not appear again?
it may or may not but chances are it might very well show up again
What are missions in deep dives this week/
pins
So by that logic
If it appears again
It won’t be at the same spot right?
I want to throw my router into an incinerator
lost connection in the final stage of EDD
just sell it
yeah
and let someone else suffer with Sky Broadband?
yep
Alright thanks
been waiting for 2 years for them to install our fibre optic
at this rate it’ll be 2 decades
not too surprising
good ol' Britain, innit
the EDD this time was nasty. pulled though by the skin of our teeth
eh idk, honestly only the first stage is tough, the rest was easy
In the last stage it spawned around 80 slashers as a single wave. I wish i was recording lol. That would have been a good vid
For me first one was pretty easy. Second one was a bit sketch, but draind a lot of nitra. 3rd stage was pretty close we had few resups for 6 eggs and a black box
lol my edd team died in stage 2
Cuz someone turned on the black box right when a wave spawned
Rip 😦
First, gunner with lsls and hellfire, and the gun grenade
Second, scout with ai stability engine and cryominelets
Third, gunner with NTP + fear, elephant round bulldog and sticky grenade (we got to third stage ans finished)
Fourth (because i think the bulldog oc is the problem), gunner with NTP + fear, sixshooter bulldog + sticky grenade
Im very tempted to run another EDD with gun nade. Would fit hollow bough terrain a lot
wouldn't it be fun if the mineral market worked something like the stock market, where when people weren't going on other maps with other minerals, those minerals would skyrocket in price and the other way around?
ai stability + cryo bolts sounds like some horrible dis synergy
Sticky isn't really that good of a grenade imo, but you've got good ocs. If you want tho, you can try what I go with nowadays for high hazards, which is minigun with bullet hell (32221) and coil gun with mole (21222) and I went with leadburster grenade. I like using the minigun to stun hordes of enemies, activate fear with coil gun and then hit the stun again to finish them off. Alternatively you can stun hordes and then use the grenade to finish them off, but I don't recommend doing it with every horde.
yeah got recommended to me by a scout. got nothing to lose so I tried it anyways
other OCs recommended for scout for me is EFS M1000 with Custom Casings Zhukov + IFG. First impression: good for bulk + picking off patrol bots but not anything else
ai requires weakpoint hits, which cryo disables so that is a very bad combo.
Efs is amazing for hvts like mactera, spitters and septics cus it can take ammo and blowthrough while one shotting all of them. It also cripples groups of praetorians
stun + fear is nasty. I used PBM stun + hellfire. finished menace and stingtail on one on one combat.
I'll try that bullet hell combo then. what's the mods of the minigun?
the direction given to me is that: pick off spitter / macteras with Ai SE, use cryominelets(zhukov) as crowd control, and synergy that with voltaic stun sweeper 🤔
tbh I dont feel im effective while using it. I prefer my hipster and double barrel + cryo nade, but maybe I'm not used to it
Hipster double barrel cryo is real satisfying to use
idk wtf ur using to actually kill the crowds if ur primary can’t tho. Plus sweeper is pretty bad. You shud not be using that for crowds. If you want a cc nade take ifgs
if u take rang, u shud really only be using it for stunning hvts like mactera
hipster + cryo mines wud make infinitely more sense then hipster + aise cus it can actually kill frozen bugs
If you want a slightly more defensive version of that build, swap out hipster for 22212 drak with shield battery booster, its real easy to use for taking out crowds and has a big shield regen boost (make sure to get the crosshair heat meter mod tho, you'll need it)
Oh and swap out cryo for voltaic stun sweeper too
Less effective for big targets, better for crowds
The numbers are the weapon mods. Stun + fear in general is insane, since you can essentially stunlock enemies.
i see little reason to be using vss in that tbh
yeah stun + fear is great
fear isn't duration based
it makes enemies run a set distance away, and only once they've ran that far does it wear off, regardless of how much time that took
so if you stun a feared enemy it's still feared when the stun wears off
same reason as to why fear is so good with slowdown effects
Plus the build I use goes with aggressive venting, which I'm pretty sure also activates fear.
wanted to ask, how well bullet hell holds in mactera plague?
you can very easily stun the mactera
just spread your shots out a bit
every shot has a large chance to stun the enemy hit and then a 75% chance to ricochet to another enemy and then a chance to stun that one too
coilgun with fear is also very good against mactera
hi
BRo
Wth was that deep dive
Had the longest tunnel ever
Molly got in at 15 seconds left on the clock
daim
right, cmiiw, the fear does not scale with how long you hold the trigger right?
so let's say I use that partial charge mod on the Armskore, im basically extending more charges I can use to fear
It went well for me. But bullet hell is very ammo-hungry, so keep that in mind.
Make sure to restock
yeah the fear is just as strong regardless of how far you charged the shot
perfect, because im very unsatisfied with the supressive fire mod on thunderhead when I bring it for mactera plague
I'll try it
hellfire hard counters mactera imo
also uncharged shots are very nice for small enemies like jellies and shredders
you can also do uncharged shots on stingtails, praets etc, then switch to ur primary to kill them while feared
I actually don't have hellfire so idk how good it is lol.
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for first stage we killed the initial mactera, popped the dreads for no ambient waves, did aquark, killed dreads and just left
barely saw any mactera after the initial 30s
Crazy good, It applies 180-240 heat over 3 secs, which ignites almost every medium bug enough to kill with the Onfire DOT.
Imagine it as a cave long cylindrical Incendiary grenade.
yeah that sounds insane lol
pretty chill edd, mactera plague started after calling drop pod
I have, and iirc I tried to test it. First Impression is that it's kinda slow 🤔 compared how long the mactera is feared. i'll try again in sandbox and simulate a Mactera Plague myself
wait, hang on. on my run, the ambient wave kept coming 🤔
is it because we didn't do it immediately?
my fault, the ambient waves came
but the big ones called out by mission control didnt happen
the Mactera are easy to deal with on the first stage, I generally stick with Lead Storm
got my shields for if they surround me completely
how to i speek in other chat
where
now, here's hoping my router decides to behave today
driller should have a more direct damage gun
hi, i almost collected all season pass's infected weapons >:)
they're really good, gg to the devs
omfg can my teammates just listen to me for one fucking second - I ping the tunnel entrance in the last stage, driller and the rest of the team continues to ignore me and goes straight down into the pit, and of course they die to a swarm
"couldn't see the chat"
load of bullshit - I pinged the tunnel multiple times and typed in the chat MULTIPLE TIMES, and this idiot is too brainless to see what I'm pointing out to him
never gonna get this EDD done cos of idiots everywhere
Take Violent Impact Mixture OC on the sludge pump if you want that
cba to keep trying with this EDD anymore, only a cosmetic core anyway.
also this fucking infinite loading bug is getting infuriating now
j
Thought that was just me. I encounter that shit like once a day
anyone down for a normal deep dive on xbox?
sorry if it seems off topic, but how do i regain access to non drg chat?
Did both deep dives. They're a lot easier than last week
The EDD especially is a far cry from the utter hell that was last time
Sludge Blast is my go-to for dreads but it's terrible outside that
read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role
thx
salam
how much nitra is there in stage 3
A lot
too late im dead
the terrain on stage 3 is fucked
i was playing true solo scout and there was like nothing i could do
id need m1k or crossbow for that
can some one tell me how to get chat permissions
What haz are the deep dives and elite deep dives
3 and 3.5 for regular. 4.5, 5, 5.5 for elite.
What stage does the haz change in normal
Once you've done the first one it goes up to 3.5 and stays that way. So it's only haz 3.5 in stage 2 and 3 of a regular deep dive.
this probably gets asked a lot but how hard is the normal deep dive? i can deal with hazard 3 consistently but 4 is still quite a challenge
i have a green overclock called stunner for my shotgun but do i need something for breach cutter too?
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We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks
Deep Dives
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We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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how do i use the epc driller gun?
Shoot bugs
This is a stupid question (I am new to the game) what button on pc do I use to access the tool I use to make pipes for the refinery mission
should be E
what fucking asshole designed this EDD's stage 3
6 leeches next to one another, 6 praetorians with 2 wardens
also an egg objective so forced swarms
and 0 red sugar
yeah how about that guy who handcrafts all these procedurally generated deep dives every week
gotta fire him
Sugar was literally only on the ceiling and on one egg
It was atrocious
Gotta get that Nitra, Bromeo
This week deep dive isn't really hard but if you struggle with h4 you should be careful
the rothschilds
Marko Rasmussen VII
solo edd done, it wasn't too bad
hi, is this the place to ask for noob questions?
finally am able to get the steam version and I was wondering which version is recommended!
standard, legacy, master, deluxe?
no and the other versions are just if you want to buy dlcs as a pack
Apart from Matrix cores, what are deep dives for?
matrix core, weapon OCs and cosmetic cores
and speedrunning, if that's your thing
And you only get those once per week innit
yeah
you can grind promotions to get blanks and weapon cores to increase your chances
react to something in #welcome-and-rules to get a role
EDD was rough especially when our engi dc'd before stage 3
nearly wiped on both 2 and 3
did it in a pub so it prolly coulda been smoother but those black box placements sucked
Anyone wanna done ride silicate achivements?
#fan-communities have a russian discord, if you're more comfortable with that
I was so excited to get hoverclock until I realized it's not practical in real combat
It's really fun though
how is it not practical?
grapple to ceiling, shoot bugs with m1000, grapple to ceiling again, etc
and you just get to stay out of range of melee enemies
hi
Hi
read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role to access all channels
The conditioning worked 
You get one for DD and one for EDD so technically twice?
We need an even harder deep dive for a 3rd round of rewards 
difficulties: 6x2, L, Lx2
Wait what you do? I've done one normal and one elite Deep Dives and only managed to get 3 cores in total.
You get a set of blank, weapon and cosmetic for each deep dive
There are better OCs for the m1k or even for scout in general. Hoverclock also usually rated pretty low in tier lists
Doesn't add dmg or anything else, and it gets worse the higher difficulty you do, especially 6x2
I mean 6x2 is a modded difficulty, not accounted for by the games design. so ofc a utility OC isnt the best. Its great for letting you make dumb mistakes, allowing you to play fater and more recklessly. Its also on a weapon that (in the base game) is plenty powerful without extra dmg/ammo/dps. Which makes it really strong in haz 3/4 and a good choice in haz 5.
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Exept of pinned comments about what expect in each stage of DD, is there info about something special, like spawn of JET BOOTS in start of base DD?
You can use sandbox to check all caves before you jump in, but there's no real collated list every week. You can also check the chat here for info you want.
anybody wanna play a chill elite deep dive with me?
heyy
That kind of stuff is an RNG chance so not really.
Bring a driller for the last stage or be ready to wait for Molly to reach the pod for 4 minutes
yo
Hoverclock is a permanent stay for me. It saves me a hook shot when i’m falling, allow me to hook more recklessly, and doesn’t cost any bullet if i switch weapon mid-charge.
I just had molly cut it close with less than a minute left without a driller lolol
Yeah we had like 30 seconds left
like what m1k ocs are good in 6x2 then
any m1k oc that doesn’t affect its breakpoints is really good cus at base m1k is exceptionally strong at killing hvts
alguien para jugar, recien instalo el juego
wrong channel to ask, go to your platform's lfg channel
Nah just stay in the pod and you can take them down easily
Well if you had a driller you can easily put them in a practical space
i was driller and did not do that
aint drillin em down THAT far
ngl i like the stage 2 black box
its interedting because it allows room for a two story build
where one or two ppl r up top n the rest r on bottom
assuming u dig out the bottom
anyway any tips for clearing stage 3 without gunner?
i feel like theres no real spots to clear the main room given leeches spitballers and even the breeder assuming thats a guaranteed spawn
I don't know how many leeches there are on the ceiling, but you can shoot 3 of them from the starting room
rock and stone!
God the run to the drop pod on stage 3 sucked, the mule got there with 20-ish seconds left
Is drg servers down atm cuz I’m not able to host or join anybody’s game or invite anyone my internet and ps plus are fine and everything is updated so I’m soo confused anybody know please need help thanks
Apparently this is one of the only channels the server lets me talk in so hi
Any tips for the EDD this week? I’m a greenbeard and did the DD already with randos but I’m really nervous about the EDD. I am Gunner.
nah I was just in a mission something's up with your game
What else can it be then ?? I mean my internet and ps plus like I said is fine so any suggestions and my game is up to date I even deleted it and redownloaded it and still not working
I was seeing other people have the same problem but nobody knows why
Same 😆
be scout
i just jumped down right away and killed all the stationaries while the rest of the team cleared the initial swarm at spawn
i was scout
but solo
it feels like theres no real cover so i kinda just gotta snipe the spitballers then i get doodood on by a swarm
as scout you dont need cover so long as you grapple enough
and obviously dont launch yourself into pits
maybe i just got shitty spitballer gen
cuz like it was definitely not smthn u could just grapple away from
i dealt with 3 spitballers right beside each other and a 4th near the bottom waiting for me
did you have like 12 of them or smth
i dont even really remember i was just sobbing because there was multiple spitballers a breeder and an immediate warden swarm
😭 i was
but the warden was buffing the bugs from the little hole on the right when all of the bugs were in the pod room
Hi guys
Hi
Choose some roles in #welcome-and-rules
Protect your team against the mactera, and kill leeches if the scout hasn't already
Other than that it seems pretty easy
Thanks 🙏
Well I did and I just bunkered up for the black box. It took me like 30 secs to get it and all the team was chilling. We never fell during the whole dive it was pretty chill. The last 2 elites ago was way worse su to lack of nitra
H deep dive 2/4
Hello, i want to lower game Max FPS so it wont make air oven in from my PC.
What best number?
I mean what's the lowest for it to run while you can still understand what's going on?
Damn, sorry, wrong chat.
Lmao
i love dem
anyone down for edd?
Is there an lfg invite?
not yet
all the classic LFG channels work just fine for this
I meant... nevermind. I'll create a lobby myself #lfg-steam
im going to work to earn the right 24/7
anyone remember Rapid Gate?
I know this isn’t deep dive related, but for some reason I can only talk in like, two channels. Every time I go to a new one, I just see a stupid pop up covering the text option that tells me to check out the suggestions chat when I’m done “reading”. Does anyone know how to fix this?
go to #welcome-and-rules and pick some roles
Oh, ok. Thanks so much!
welp, internet across my whole country’s fucked
anyone got solo scout builds for the EDD
something that can both waveclear and single-target efficiently
atm I’m thinking AISE GK2 and Det Zhukov but not 100%
EFS/ASS/AISE with fire bolts crossbow or double barrel boomstick
I have neither fire or double barrel 😦
Extremely cringe
Guys, I just joined this server with my friend and we have no idea how to get permission to join the Voice Channels or the Text Channles, anyone can help?
you have to grab a role
woop, EDD done
Hello, can someone help me out? I am locked out of almost every channel and pod except for this one. Every other channel says I don't not have permission to post. I used to be able to join channels and pods.
No idea why that’s happening but check #welcome-and-rules to see if you can do anything from there
I can pick a role but I can't post to any channels or join a pod.
Huh
Weird
I had that problem once and did something in the info channel and it fixed it
ok, wait, it took a minute, but I selected ALL the roles and now I can join a pod
Ok good 👍
I stg we should start pinging mods everytime someone asks why they can't chat in drg chat so they know how much of a problem it is
We're well aware, but thanks for the threats.
Imagine being unaware at this point 
im not quite sure cus i cant navigate well but is this the channel fitting for questoons?
oh shoot this is a mode channel sorry
read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role
Can someone tell me why I can only talk in this channel?
cuz youre in too deep
Why isn't gen chat like open to everyone, spam?
I've been enjoying this game so far, only playing Solo so I can learn the ropes
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yippee!!!
WOOHOO
niiiiiiccccccceeeee
Hello Evryone Guys! Is the game buying in steam?
yes, you can buy the game on Steam
game interesting, so that buy?
Discord is telling me you're literally playing it.
I see first time game.. She is few look liked on other game survivor and crafting ( Factorio Techtonic etc)
bro speaking in yoda
First time playining try!))
Why?
Well, DRG is not a survival and crafting game, it's a co-op shooter, like Left 4 Dead.
You seem to have trouble with english. You might wanna join one of the community in #fan-communities to find people who will be better suited to answer your questions without issues 
Here also mine ore and crfating something item
Uh... yeah i guess
you wouldnt happen to speak english as a second language would you?
We need more beer crafting
Check #welcome-and-rules
There’s roles there to choose from
wait a bit, because you still dont have a role. if in, say, 10 to 15min, you still cant talk, re-get the role. the bot can be a bit lazy
okay ill just wait, i got work anyway
How’s the elite dive
hello



