deep-dive-discussion

[finite hearth]

Ohhh so 6 rewards per week

[wanton knot]

yep

if you can do the edd that is

2 blanks 2 overclocks and 2 cosmetics

[finite hearth]

Is there like a way to see if I already completed this week's dive? Cuz I kinda forgot if I did it already

[finite hearth]

EDD?

[wanton knot]

elite deep dive

[finite hearth]

Ohhhh

Yeah it's good

[wanton knot]

if you've already completed the dive, going to the deep dive terminal will show you your completion times

as well as the stages you completed filled in with yellow

(the 1, 2, 3 above the LAUNCH button)

[finite hearth]

Is it after pressing "launch"?

[finite hearth]

OHH

OJ

OK

THANK YOU ILL CHECK IT OUT

You're a great person thank you

[wanton knot]

np

dont forget to do the weekly core hunt for another set of cores

and promoting a dwarf will give a set of cores too

[finite hearth]

Oh that

What's that

[wanton knot]

it's an assignment that resets every week

3 missions, each gives a core in the same order as dives do

blank, weapon, cosmetic

[hallow anchor]

Why cant I type in drg chat?

[finite hearth]

Ohhhh

I'll check it out

[young yew]

No need for all upgrades

[clever reef]

Why r all the Chanel’s locked and some regular chats like DRG chat aren’t letting me type

Seriously I’ve been trying to figure out why all voice Chanel’s are locked and half of the chats are “done reading check out deep dive discution” for a whole day

[restive steppe]

@eager flame stage 3 of deep dive is cave leech cluster

[random rampart]

#welcome-and-rules pick a role

[clever reef]

Thanks

How

[burnt sandal]

reading the channel will help too.

[clever reef]

I read it but it doesn’t say how to be a regular or anything

All I need to do is figure out how to talk in the other chats and use Chanel’s

I figured it out

[random rampart]

a regular is an earned role, not a reaction obtainable one

[karmic flame]

holy fucking shit this EDD is fucking brain cancer enducing

so many stingtails and spreaders

along with a bulk on stage 2

and salvage as well

salvage immediately makes an EDD staight up impossible for me

[formal sable]

ye

[limber heath]

I dont know if i want to do this weeks edd

[wide forum]

liquid morkite spawns in dd are amazing

[lost plover]

I did this this week's elite deep dive successfully, but I had to use 3 resupplies.

For stage 2

It's very tight. And I had to kill 10 praetoreans.

It's a pain in the ass to go with gunner because when you need to use your shield bubble the younglings will shoot you out of it and the stingtails will launch you into the horde. Or high up and you die from fall damage.

It is surprisingly frustrating.

[thick sapphire]

if it's just mutators that got flipped around then it's probably not really a different seed, more something getting changed in the generator so it produces a different outcome on the same seed

also speaking of the patch, the fact that a bulk could spawn in the tutorial seems rather hilarious

i honestly don't even remember seeing any big bugs when i did the tutorial; the first mission i did after the tutorial (on haz 2) i got like 1 praetorian in the entire mission

[honest temple]

Is there a effective way to kill stingtails?

These bugs ruin everything

[trail frigate]

c4

[open lagoon]

TCF with cyro

[lavish sparrow]

The way i play generaly:
Scout: snipe it with the gk2 ai
Driller: stun it with the subata tranquilizer rounds
Engi: breach cutter x2 and shotgun on weakspot
Gunner: just shoot it

[lone monolith]

pigeon man: you need to chill lmfao

on the off chance you see this

[lament ibex]

EDD stage 2 is something else man

should probably use cryo and/or the leech/grabber awareness perk

[lost prism]

what is better for stage 1 of the EDD?
making driller drill the path to the heartstone room OR
launching doretta right out from the start

[bitter canyon]

1

[lost prism]

also, should i tell my team the strategy before we are going into the deep dive or should i tell the strategy when we are already in the deep dive?

[bitter canyon]

Before doesnt hurt

[kindred coyote]

whats a good scout build for doing this true solo

i dont have fire bolts so im thinking impact deflection trifork maybe

the edd*

[supple quail]

Anyone up to deep dive with me

[kindred coyote]

LMAO

i love ur name and pfp

[supple quail]

Will be in pod 2

[supple quail]

Thx

[ancient cove]

Don't be shy and play with randoms 🙂

[kindred coyote]

its so i feel cool doing it true solo

i play with randoms most of the time silly

[ancient cove]

I want to play new Deep Dives, but I ahve to play Starfield 🙈

[civic yoke]

As long as you have some sort of pheromones you should be ok, maybe get m1k with armor break for rolly pollies, since you don't have fire bolt you could go with boomstick fire damage to kill the bugs that gather after you throw a pheromone bolt or grenade.

[kindred coyote]

ah shit there r rolly pollies

i was thinking of sbb cryo bolts

[civic yoke]

same lol, have like 10 hours and I'm only lv 6, too much to loot

[kindred coyote]

cuz even tho i dont have ab on them cryo should fix that

[civic yoke]

they are weak to fire iirc

can always check bestiary

[kindred coyote]

imma just hope i dont have a massive rolly polly infestation

[civic yoke]

wait just realized you can't have pheromones bolts and boomstick at the same time lol

2 IQ moment

[kindred coyote]

lol i didnt rven realize

[quartz birch]

alright gamers how bad is this one

bout to try it

[wanton knot]

dd was pretty easy, but the cavegen can be confusing (especially the refinery stage 2 cave)
edd i recall feeling like i was back in middle school dodgeball and died a couple times to all the rollers

[lost plover]

You really gotta give the edd's 2nd stage all you got. Also I found the cavegen layout confusing with the eggs.

The cave you enter from looked very similar to the cave with the 2 eggs.

It's just slightly above the cave you entered tho.

The 1st stage also barely has enough nitra for a resupply. At least I always got just enough and a little extra.

[wanton knot]

first stage was escort, right? i remember having enough for at least 2 resups and extra for the next stages

[civic yoke]

the third stage of the edd has to be the easiest edd stage I have ever played lol

No swarms if you do it quick

we even had dark morkite

iirc we had like 600 nitra at the end

[civic yoke]

idk about that, we had 2 resups down and like Krazy said, one extra for the next stage

[ember tinsel]

Nitra does taste good with cheese

[civic yoke]

and beer

[ember tinsel]

Yes

[forest carbon]

Ok so there are like a million cave leeches lmao

[civic yoke]

what did u expect, it has leech cluster lol

[grizzled hill]

Am I able to do a deep dive again and still get matrix cores?

Or can I get them once

[untold saddle]

Once for the DD and once for the EDD every week

[jovial garden]

Once per week

[tropic jackal]

you can only recieve the rewards from dives / core hunts once a week and it resets on thursday

[lost plover]

to be fair I think the nitra spawning is a bit random.

but for me going solo it was only enough for 1 and a bit extra for next stage.

[dusk vault]

Huh, stage 1 was Cave Leech Cluster on Thursday, but today it was Exploder Infestation…

[leaden cypress]

Funny patch changed some warnings

[dusky crystal]

does gunner shield replenish after each stage?

[leaden cypress]

I don't remember if this bug still happens

[foggy cairn]

is morkite in the elite?

[forest carbon]

This EDD is peaceful whereas last one let like a warzone

[forest carbon]

Almost nothing replenishes

The only things that replenish mission to mission are bosco revives and your own perks

So if u used iron will it will be ready again next mission

[dusk vault]

Also engineer turret ammo

[forest carbon]

I’m not sure if this is true

Funny as I did it wiht engi but I didn’t pay attention to ammo numbers as I was full leaving anyways

[swift jay]

this deep dive surely was fun

holy

like 3 stupid cave generations

3 glitches caused death

was so fun

[young steeple]

Glad you had fun despite the issues

[dusk vault]

https://youtu.be/OGV1XvxVGtY?si=KZoc4sOgnr8ybl4T&t=1081 -- He ends stage 1 with 66 turret ammo in reserve, and starts stage 2 with 425 turret ammo in reserve.

And that video is for this week's EDD so its the current patch.

[forest carbon]

Interesting

Good to know

Yeah engi and gunner probs best picks this EDD

Although it’s not bad regardless on anything

No cursed mactera plague

[naive canyon]

Hello guys! Why I can’t type in the main chats?

I’m new here so don’t blame me pls🥲

[queen lintel]

how do you refule the drill dozer

nvm got it

[tacit iris]

Had twins spawn on stage 3 of Edd

Pretty fun stuff

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[wanton knot]

and engineer turret ammo iirc

[golden birch]

guys is Haz lvl 4 nothing compared to elite deep dives?

I already kinda struggle on those, got the game yesterday so Im wondering how bad it could be

[forest carbon]

EDD is 4.5, 5 and then 5.5

Just start doing haz 5 normally on ur missions

It’s not as bad as ppl make it out to be

[tacit iris]

Sometimes they can be really bad

Stage 2 on this one is rough

[forest carbon]

Last stage 2 EDD

Was cancer solo

[tacit iris]

True

[forest carbon]

12 macteras jumping me at once

Very poggers

[tacit iris]

This one the driller was adamant about using bunkers

[forest carbon]

It can work in a four man

[tacit iris]

Every single time we started something an oppressor, bulk, or both spawned

[forest carbon]

Yeah it’s why I don’t like this lmao

[tacit iris]

Yeah

[forest carbon]

Did u have an engi?

[tacit iris]

We did

[forest carbon]

U can create holding points with platform replleant without fully bunkering

[thick sapphire]

on my first attempt we decided to bunker the fuel after almost dying on the uplink. though we hadn't seen a bulk on the stage prior to the one that ended up spawning

[tacit iris]

He didn’t have repel

If I didn’t bring my cryo minelets we would’ve been screwed

Gunner also came in clutch

[forest carbon]

Can I tag u in gallery?

[thick sapphire]

oppressor isn't too bad for bunkers if you have aoe stuff and there's an actual tunnel rather than being completely buried

[tacit iris]

Sure

[thick sapphire]

since the oppressor will fit through driller tunnels

but bulks are big and will wreck your bunker

[tacit iris]

Bunker 1 was left unrecognizable and compromised

[forest carbon]

That photo is an extremely small one but it gets the concept down. Create layers of alternating platforms behind yourself at a flat or semi flat wall. U think of a pyrimad like thing

[tacit iris]

Bunker 2 was the grave for the engi and driller

[forest carbon]

Allow small gap between platforms

Bugs won’t approach you from behind

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dmjDxXTE0w3-aK3lIDX--BZMERjL7SQrW8BFTmBr47A/mobilebasic

@tacit iris

Very useful guide

[tacit iris]

Ik the Strat but engi didn’t have repel

[golden birch]

I only do haz lvl 4 so far

[forest carbon]

This is a good way to bunker without actually bunkering

[forest carbon]

Ik but if u ever wanna try

[tacit iris]

Sure Ty

[thick sapphire]

i actually did my first edd before my first haz5 but i was used to haz4 and heard that week's edd was easy

[forest carbon]

Just try haz 5. It’s just faster bugs and more damaging. Waves r a bit faster too. All u gotta do is just take waves more seriously, like drop what ur doing and deal with the wave, and 2 try to go semi quickly and not waste too much time

Haz 5 is not like crazy difficult. Just take waves more seriously

[tacit iris]

Ok

[onyx dirge]

3rd attempt on EDD stage 2:
-driller nukes us at the start and leaves (have to use IW)
-no bismor
-refueling instantly spawns bulk above us and we lose really fast

[tacit iris]

Who was the driller

[golden birch]

I can’t I got the game yesterday

[wraith shard]

You never get crafting minerals other than spawns

[golden birch]

So I need to do the assignment for it first

[wraith shard]

On deep dives

[naive canyon]

Many thanks!

[oak pecan]

jesus I hate solo escort duty

why do the rocks have so much health and spawn so many

I just want to do the edd as solo gunner, why does there always have to be something that basically forces me to play engie

[burnt sandal]

Gunner shouldn't be having a hard time killing rocks though, unless you're using NTP

[oak pecan]

Yeah I was using NTP

I expected I would need it for stage 2

But I did not expect the game to spawn 4 rocks at the same time when I wasnt even done with the previous 2 rocks

[onyx dirge]

ПОРОВОС ТОМОС

[wanton knot]

EDD is higher difficulty in number, but since you carry nitra between levels the 2nd and 3rd stages are a bit easier than your average haz 5 mission

not being required to grab nitra can speed things up a lot if necessary

[thick sapphire]

i feel like i get more failures in edd than a normal haz5 though

maybe it's the warnings, maybe it's the fact that one out of the three missions might be harder, maybe you end up with more greenbeards that don't normally play haz5 but try the edd and hope for a carry to get cores

also normal dd is tough on stage 2 if you have no/clueless driller and engi

for this week

[radiant cloud]

where do i find role select?

[burnt sandal]

#welcome-and-rules

[cobalt sage]

am i just bad or is this edd really fking hard? mainly stage 2

ive failed 4 times and normally the edd only takes me 1 try

[odd iron]

Stage 2 is the gatekeeper imo

[tacit iris]

It is hard

Second room is not as open as it seems

Plenty of small areas to get stuck in

Besides it’s uplink so that’s always a bit rough

[lament ibex]

lost EDD stage 2 because stingtails wouldn't let us revive or resup while we had iron will

we were at the fuel cells too

convinced this stage is actually impossible

also there were like two bulks at once which turned the fuel cells area into a gladiator arena

[tacit iris]

It’s possible

Takes effort, luck, skill

Eyes and ears open for stings and seps, ping em

Don’t stay still

Have some escape routes set up around the cave prior to uplink

[cobalt sage]

i think the worst part is the crater bowl of death + qronar younglings

[tacit iris]

At least they’re unarmored

[cobalt sage]

yeah

[tacit iris]

One of them did save my life during my run

Had a bad zip, landed in a pit next to some nasties but a little guy launched me onto some salt, letting me climb out

[cobalt sage]

actually its not too hard, i just failed stage 2 at the refueling

[tacit iris]

That one almost had us

[cobalt sage]

the main difficulty is when a single promoted guy is your gunner who hasnt used his shield once the entire mission

[tacit iris]

Since everyone died right after completing it

Gunner had the last IW, got me up and I just ran around until timer went down

[cobalt sage]

for extraction?

[tacit iris]

Then zipped past a bulk and some seps to freedom

[cobalt sage]

ah

[tacit iris]

Hate when gunners don’t use shields

[spiral badge]

I forget to shield sometimes

[sand bridge]

So is the Elite Deep Dive abnormally hard this week? I wouldn't know because this is the first one I've attempted.

[dusty spire]

I'd say harder then the last one, which I easily got to 3rd stage with randoms before the host DCed

[gaunt mortar]

2nd stage of EDD def kicks your ass this week

i've failed 3x on that stage today which is unusual for me

furthest i got was 75% into relay then my team got ripped apart by stingtails and septics. i like the challenge tho

[drifting tree]

is 3rd stage hard?

didnt even pass 1st one yet solo yet

[gaunt mortar]

stage 3 looks chill from what i'm seeing in the pinned message

[spare whale]

stage 3 is quick and easy

me and my friends struggled quite a lot in the 2nd stage

[devout void]

normal deep dive was easy

[tacit iris]

2nd is the only really hard one

3rd was hard for me because my team had a ducking dread spawn

Twins jumped us in last room

[dim skiff]

anybody know why I don't have permission to message in drg-chat or any other chat?

[drifting tree]

how lond did u take to do it

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[kindred coyote]

how good is the ammo on this edd

[tacit iris]

Whole thing was about an hour

[dim skiff]

thank you

[tacit iris]

We didn’t have nitra issues

Even with leaving behind some resups on stage 2

[kindred coyote]

wicked

[devout void]

Morkite was scarce on the last stage

[tacit iris]

Morkite did feel pretty rare ye

[kindred coyote]

ah damn

im like rlly bad at opening my eyes

[tacit iris]

Guessing I missed a vein or two

Dark morkite will fix that

[kindred coyote]

what does that even do

[tacit iris]

Makes you get mormorkite

[kindred coyote]

and is it worth it over slayer stout or uhhh the red sugar one

oh

[tacit iris]

Eh

Depends

[kindred coyote]

imma look at the wiki ill see if its worrh it

[tacit iris]

I personally like slayer and stuff more

[kindred coyote]

idek if i have enough barley bulbs for slayer stout or the red sugar one

idk what they take but ik im low on bulbs

[tacit iris]

Red rock

[kindred coyote]

YEAH

that

oh damn dark morkite is +20%

i might actually take that

[tacit iris]

Btw, on stage 2 there will be an egg you can access before reaching the main room

DO NOT grab it until you clear the room

You will die

[kindred coyote]

lol alrighty

tyty

[supple dagger]

Hi, how can i get permissions to use #drg-chat and other drg channels?

[burnt sandal]

#deep-dive-discussion message

[supple dagger]

Oh, thank u very much

[spiral badge]

Dark morkite is kinda nice. On a 250 morkite mission, you only need to pick up like 210

[fleet leaf]

stage 2 is aids there about 3 spitballers, 2 brood nexus and like 2-3 leeches

[turbid dawn]

why does praetorian gas not light on fire sometimes? and ytf is it made that way?

[wraith shard]

You can do it to early or too late

[unborn obsidian]

im pretty sure if it cant be lit on fire it cant damage you either

[wraith shard]

Too early it for some reason doesn't light

Too late its just a residual visual and its not an active hitbox

[hybrid adder]

.

[unborn obsidian]

bruh i keep dying on the second stage

[still geode]

if there are sticky flames under it it wont ignite

[spare girder]

never played the but heard that the community is the best

[turbid dawn]

i mean ive noticed, not tested, if i do not dmg or kill the praetorian then i cant light its gas on fire

[still geode]

prae gas not igniting if theres an environmental heat source present is a pretty well known bug

been around for a long time

[versed stump]

Hi guys, can i drop my youtube video in this chat?

[broken flume]

no

deep dive TALK only

[kindred coyote]

that hits different with that pfp

[lyric roost]

rock and stone

i mean

[shrewd mason]

btw guys does someone see the utility of the gunner? i mean every class is better for the team and is wa more useful. am i wrong?

[violet raptor]

Zip lines help carry heavy objects and shield for revives also really good single target dps with the right builds

[shrewd mason]

yeah but zip lanes can be compasted by the driller and the engi, and if you have 2 engies you have a literally death zone where you re safe asf. the kill count is just meh with the gunner

lines

[shrewd mason]

i mean not only it can easly be changed but for clearing maps it s way too slow compared to other builds in other classes

[violet raptor]

Yeah the bug repellent can help but the bugs will walk on it if there’s no other way, the shields allow for complete invulnerability aside from a few attacks

[violet raptor]

Gunner isn’t mobility he’s is supposed to be slow he is supposed to stand still and shoot

[shrewd mason]

yeah but he can t carry no survive very well on hazard 5. he lacks a lot of mobility and aoe damage. most of the times if the engi and driller are doing their job they easily outshine the gunner in the kill count

[shrewd mason]

yeah but even that the driller does it better

[shrewd mason]

i mean i get it that the gunner is an other class but in terms of utility for the team he always gets ouhined, plus for the thing he s supposed to be since he s literally just there to kill and res he s far from other classes

[violet raptor]

I found that yes while driller does deal with large crowds the best gunner works well at sing target dps on praetorians and oppressors, gunner is able to focus a large amount of fire power onto specific targets

[wraith shard]

Hello

[shrewd mason]

i see m8 but well still not convincing me cause he lacks a lot

[shrewd mason]

supp m8

[wraith shard]

Am new here

[shrewd mason]

nice welcome to drg

[rapid stream]

What is inn the new EDD

[shrewd mason]

well stage 2 is 2 mules

[rapid stream]

anything anoying

[shrewd mason]

nop

[rapid stream]

any mork

[shrewd mason]

once you finish the stage 2 it s gets easy

stage 3 isn t hard at all

[rapid stream]

.

[shrewd mason]

yeah the stage 3

not sure

but mostlikely

[shrewd mason]

yes np no need to say thnks

[violet raptor]

you can sheck to pinned message for everything new in the deep dives

[forest carbon]

His shield is by and large his best utility

Guaranteed rez total safety for like 10 seconds

[shrewd mason]

Yes it buys time

[forest carbon]

He is just fine on haz 5 he has very good sustained dmg

[shrewd mason]

But the engi has a safe zone with both turrets and if the driller helps than it s really a safe one

The scout is the biggest resource gathering one, if the team lacks nitra it s scout fault

[forest carbon]

Not all missions have u sitting in one place

Requires setup

[shrewd mason]

It s pretty quickly set up

Plus when you hear swarm you just stay together in the same place

So in the end it s a safe zone if you use it well with a good engi, most of them can t place them correctly. If the engi isn t first in kills he made something wrong

[forest carbon]

If ur talking a super coordinated team engi arguably has the least utility. Driller can make great bunkers without any platforms just fine

[shrewd mason]

Whut

[forest carbon]

But in pubs that doesn’t happen so I do prefer engi setups with repellant

[forest carbon]

U realize driller can just drill safe zones

No platforms needed

On haz 6-7 modded they do that

And bunker

[shrewd mason]

I know a never said that driller was bad

I m just saying that engi Carries most of the times

[forest carbon]

No Ik I’m saying in modded most ppls opinion is engi has least utility

[shrewd mason]

What wow

Hazard 6 and 7

How do I get that

[forest carbon]

Funneling wiht platforms is not needed when driller can drill safe zone/ bunker for team

I’ll send a video

[shrewd mason]

Thnks man

[forest carbon]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=lXPFucT1VVA&si=NIJtbmFkQ7_KiJuk

@shrewd mason skip to stage 2

They bunker and really don’t need engi platforms at all

[shrewd mason]

Ok I m gonna watch

[forest carbon]

But once again this is strictly modded. In haz 5 pubs ppl won’t have this coordination. Hence I do agree that engi platform funneling is much more useful and randos will come over to the safe zone

Where most do not like going into driller bunkers

And in solo driller bunker is way more risky

So engi funneling probs more useful there

Or just gunner shield

[shrewd mason]

I see what you mean but even there the engi if he plays smart can destroy them with outside turrets

Just staying cozy and with the breach cutter just destroy the whole line of enemies

[forest carbon]

In 3x spawns it’s just risky. Sitting far back in bunker forces all mactera to clump and ez to kill

He still provides crazy value

BC is insane

[shrewd mason]

Yep

[forest carbon]

And Lok has very good OC

[shrewd mason]

Oc?

[forest carbon]

I’m an engi main myself saying this btw

I need to change my role Lmao

[forest carbon]

Overclock

[shrewd mason]

Can you send me pics if your build for engi?

[forest carbon]

My fav thing is platform repellant and turret whip

[forest carbon]

I used a guide from really good player I’ll link

[shrewd mason]

Thnks

But yeah driller and engi for me really outcarry the other two in battles in my aspect

[forest carbon]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=p1rEqlRXlIQ&si=_qpTRXGHnkhDDn12

[shrewd mason]

After that the scout is reallly useful

[forest carbon]

He shows good builds for all weapons

And take tier list with massive grain of salt

[shrewd mason]

Nice

[forest carbon]

Bc it’s for modded he made it

[shrewd mason]

I will watch it

[shrewd mason]

How do you get the modded part?

[forest carbon]

And he also is making list around 4 player. He has drak AV super low but in solo scout it’s very good

[shrewd mason]

Cause hazard 5 is staring to be really easy

[forest carbon]

I’m console sadly but modded is pc. Not sure as to details

But pc mods game to make it more difficult

I would too look it up

[shrewd mason]

Yep I should

But yeah driller and engi are just monsters

As long as there is nitra easy

[forest carbon]

All classes are great in their own right

[shrewd mason]

Well as I said I get the gunner part shield but that it

I don t see him really useful I may lack the understanding of it

But I never fail if I m the engi

He s a solide carry

With the driller a bit harder to carry and well for the 2 other classes rip

You can t really carry your lobby

[forest carbon]

It’s the best tool to save team from a wipe.

Insanely good at giving your team safety in crazy swarms

[shrewd mason]

Yes it is but if the team got down or is really in a bad position

Right

But in terms of destruction as a gunner name I expected it to be the top killer

[forest carbon]

I mean the guy I sent a video has had his team wipe bc haz 7x2 or whatever gets crazy insane at times

And the shield saves

In haz 5 with good players ur probably right

Shield is not as useful if ur never at risk of dying

[shrewd mason]

Yep

I get it but yeah hazard 5 with a good team you don’t fall at all

It s very rare to fall

If the team is clean

Sometimes you get randoms that just can’t follow and don’t know how to use their classes and there starts the danger for everyone

Scouts that go for the top kill and never go for nitra nor use lights correctly if they even use them

[forest carbon]

Yeah once u get used to haz 5 it feels normal. Pubs are the true difficulty

[shrewd mason]

What is that from

Pubs what is that

[forest carbon]

When you get downed by teammate bc he wanted to drill to diff pipe line

[forest carbon]

Pub= public match

Randos

Not organized

[shrewd mason]

Oh yep

Well sometimes they just shoot you and take all your shield and half your life

But well

Btw since you re an engi main, do you know to atomic explosion that stays green like radioactive stuff

[shrewd mason]

?

[forest carbon]

Fat boy

It’s fun but a meme

[shrewd mason]

Do you recommend it? Cause most of the people don t know how to use it correctly and most of the times it ends as a friendly fire for all the team

[forest carbon]

No I don’t. But if u find it fun use it. Haz 5 anything can work. It’s just extremely low ammo for a better than average swarm clear

RJ50 is better for the launcher

And gives mobility to engi

[shrewd mason]

I see thanks man

[shrewd mason]

Btw when he puts a star on top left it means that it s his best personal recommandation?

[forest carbon]

Yes but take with a big grain of salt. Like for example executior on Lok he puts as best in slot. It’s very good but it is single target focused and is really good if ur team can cover the swarms. Personally I would recommend ECR the other one he shows for Lok as it is insane swarm control

And then just use BC for single target

But generally yes

The starred one is usually considered best but a lot of caveats

Like he stars burning hell on minigun and it is super good but lead storm lead storm is also a really good option

And don’t mind the tier list much. Like drak AV is really good for solo scout but he places it low in list bc he is saying for modded team play

So ignore the tierlist pretty much

But all the builds he presents are good options unless he specifies it’s a troll build

[shrewd mason]

I see thanks man

[limber heath]

Hows the elite deep dive?

Looks easy enough

[forest carbon]

It’s peaceful

No being chased by 12 macteras in stage second like last week

[arctic mist]

Second stage is a nightmare.

[forest carbon]

It’s just a lot of grunts. Have ur team make a bunker by the uplink and it helps

Either with driller or some platforms repellent

But even in solo they sent like 30-40 enemies at me when it wasn’t even a wave

Disgusting bugs

[arctic mist]

It's a lot of grunts, quite a few stingtails and spreaders, and a few mini-shellbacks for that extra spice of f*** you.

[next pebble]

what a dumbass

[slate roost]

Lmao

[arctic mist]

And I've been doing repellant plat setups.

[forest carbon]

Sting tails r the worst

Use BC against them

It can 2 Tap then quickly

[arctic mist]

Going to do that in my next run.

Thinking inferno or lightweight cases.

W/ ECR Lok 1.

[forest carbon]

I wish I had ECR

I use turret whip for my cc

And BC for ST

BC is like so good

Even without OC

[limber heath]

Just died twice during it

Its crazy

[worldly spoke]

dam i cant acsess the drg chat
help

[sweet basin]

potentially dumb question, but on the Scout is the Drak-25 the best gun to run even if I don't have the heat dump overclock?

[worldly spoke]

from what i know (not much) just use what you like

[arctic mist]

M1K is considered Scout's best weapon.

[sweet basin]

oh, really? all the guide stuff I look at seems to recommend the Drak

maybe outdated?

[arctic mist]

Might be. Drak isn't bad on vanilla.

[sweet basin]

so far I've pracitcally exclusively used the base gun

GK2 or whatever it's called

[worldly spoke]

anyone know why i cant use the normal drg chat

[arctic mist]

GK2 is also okay.

[sweet basin]

Okay, thanks 🙂

[broken folio]

Finally passed elite deep dive

Trick is to bunker by uplink and fuel pod have engi platform a ceiling overtop

Have driller c4/drill out area around to prevent rollys from getting to you

Pop your resupplys there and just hope for the best

[crystal bison]

gj

[lost prism]

what if a bulk spawns?

[limber heath]

Hope and pray it spawns stage 1

I got betc and a bulk detonator next to eachother

[lost prism]

we are talking about the stage 2 of the edd

with the uplinks and stuff

[limber heath]

Yeah ik

But like if you dont want ur run to be fucked

Hope the bulk doesnt spawn on stage 2

[arctic mist]

This EDD feels impossible w/ pubs.

[hard pagoda]

should be a smooth ride unless you get rolly pollied to death in stage 2

[arctic mist]

I can't get past stage 2. I've tried a dozen times. It's very hard to get a good team together.

I wouldn't mind a low rank or two if stage 2 wasn't so punishing.

[ancient lily]

Got the stage 3 easily yesteday in pubs. Then the hosts internet died.

Do need to finish it though

[ebon scarab]

hey hows life man

[spare girder]

never played the game before but heard that the community is great

[thick sapphire]

that's probably the only way that you can really lose stage 3 lol

[ancient lily]

Rip

[thick sapphire]

literal simple mining mission

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[arctic mist]

Finally completed EDD. Stage 3 is a breeze.

[robust escarp]

whats the missions

[arctic mist]

Checked pinned comments.

Stage 1 and 3 are easy. Stage 2 is Hell on Earth.

[compact shard]

stage 2 is just a bit too small

[spiral badge]

Definitely not a fan of mules being the primary objective in DDs

[ancient lily]

I might look for another pub lobby for the deep dive.

[tawny kestrel]

Yeah this weeks edd was a breeze compared to 2 weeks ago hollow bough’s

[runic hill]

Hardest part of standard DD this time was getting to the bottom of that pit for the pumpjack

[ancient lily]

Actually I'll just take the time to promote all the classes and then be ready to flex out if needed for next week

[tepid escarp]

Did I hear a rock and stone?

[ancient lily]

Croc and Crone

[strange fractal]

i'm doing the deep dive rn and I got the hiveguard dreadnaught and its not spawning the sentinels

its just roaming around

what do i do?

wait nvm just took a while, sorry

[ancient lily]

it usually does

[safe gulch]

When hiveguards isn't spawning sentinels, give it a hug and a power attack, let it kiss you even (No really)

Have her attack you to unstuck its routine

[unborn obsidian]

im still struggling with the edd

my team just gets wiped instantly during stage 2

[ancient lily]

Instantly?

[unborn obsidian]

last time we did

previous lobby was better but

[ancient lily]

Well, where's your location. We might be able to squad up if it's nearby Washington I guess.

[unborn obsidian]

the qronars like to mess it up too

are you doing a edd right now

[ancient lily]

Nah

[unborn obsidian]

im doing a mineral mania then im gonna try the edd again

[ancient lily]

Aye. I'm going to make some food and look for pub lobbies nearby with it

[upper glade]

the forbidden starscape pfp

[unborn obsidian]

he knows

[wraith shard]

god stage 2 is ass

hate it whenever there's hover boots right off the bat

it means I'll try holding space in any other mission and get upset because I can't fly :(

[ancient lily]

That's a mood

The inverse always happens to me though. When I have em I forget I do

[unborn obsidian]

my lobby is UK so it probably wont show

i might try and do it solo

[ancient lily]

The first stage is easy as hell solo. I'd just rather not

[unborn obsidian]

i dont think ive ever beat salvage solo

when i do deep dives solo im usually engi but i might do it on my main class anyway (gunner)

[ancient lily]

I just have scout promoted rn so

[forest carbon]

Gunner is very good on salvage solo

Him and engi good options

[chilly jasper]

Engi is my favourite class

I love engi

[unborn obsidian]

never mind im not doing stage 1 solo

[forest carbon]

EDD?

Engi is pretty good

[unborn obsidian]

literally cant leave doretta for 10 seconds without an exploder/regular ambush dropping half the hp of one of the segments

[chilly jasper]

Are u Talking about deep dive?

[unborn obsidian]

possible as gunner but i just dont feel like dealing with it

[forest carbon]

Setup turrets on both sides of dorreta. Use shredders too

[unborn obsidian]

i am a gunner

[forest carbon]

Helps you multitask

[forest carbon]

I would just camp on dorreta. If a lot of bugs swarm one side throw a shield at them it forces them back

Use lead burster too

U can throw them and let it kill swarms while you shoot rocks or the lasers

[ancient turret]

The heck with this edd 6bdets wtf

[hushed jungle]

Hey whats the best class to use for pure weapon damage
And which weapon is best for the scout

[ancient lily]

For the latter people say the M1000 for primary. I much prefer the GK myself but that's cause I'm ass.

It seems universal the plasma carbine is the worst

[hushed jungle]

That's pretty interesting
I've just realized that as a solo player I probably shouldn't be using the scout because Bosco is basically a scout on his own

[ancient turret]

Xbow triple bolt best 4 pvp

[hushed jungle]

There's pvp!?

[ancient turret]

Yes*

[ancient lily]

I use the boomerang and smgs for burst damage myself. Probably not ideal, but it is fun

*Teamkilling

[hushed jungle]

I just really don't want to use the gunner
I've had some bizarre experiences with his weapons and his traversal tool just feels terrible

Oh lol

It feels like the gunners weapons just do less damage per damage

Idk how to explain it

[abstract salmon]

hey am reuben from kenya

[hushed jungle]

Who tf is that

[abstract salmon]

am in kenya can u introduce me here

[hushed jungle]

Oh hi

I'm Charlie

[abstract salmon]

waooo

where u from

[hushed jungle]

Florida

[ancient lily]

The magnum has weight, the minigun yes but it's a fuckin minigun. Ain't played much of him otherwise

[hushed jungle]

The weapons all feel like they shred big enemies but fall apart against little guys

It's so weird

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[abstract salmon]

give me any rrole

[hushed jungle]

Oh he's new to discord

You need to pick them

[abstract salmon]

yes

[hushed jungle]

Things like your age, gender

[ancient turret]

Some bot behavior bruh

[hushed jungle]

He's probably just an older guy just here for lfgs

I did this to the destiny 2 discord lol

[ancient turret]

Oof

[abstract salmon]

am 19 male

[hushed jungle]

No you have to

😮‍💨

Pick the roles

[ancient lily]

It's in #welcome-and-rules

[hushed jungle]

Scroll in #welcome-and-rules

[abstract salmon]

who wants to video game with me

[hushed jungle]

I'm about to head to bed, but you can dm me in like 13 hours if you're still up lol

Oh but I found something super exciting
Ik it's common but stfu I'm excited
There was a big guy and he exploded and covered the cave in gold

Me and Bosco had a fucking field day

We got swarmed twice lol

[abstract salmon]

okay i willwhere u from

[hushed jungle]

It too so long to clean up

Can a mod delet that

Damn quick shit

[burnt sandal]

#drg-chat is the place if you simply wish to discuss the game.
also @hushed jungle check your DMs please.

[hushed jungle]

Oh ok

[tiny dagger]

i find full normal squad couldn't beat this week's edd but i was able to do it with 4 engis

engi gaming

[ancient turret]

Jetboot so early throws off the vibe for round 2 >.>

[tiny dagger]

fr

[lavish hill]

Keep forgetting jet boots do not persist, insert fall damage here

Then on my successful run, I forgot I was engineer and not scout so can't grapple XD

[raven carbon]

Yeah lot of area defence

[raven carbon]

Stage 1 had boots, right?

[ancient turret]

Yeepp up the slope behind dotty

[unborn obsidian]

when i did it solo it generated lower down for some reason

[keen cedar]

Some stuff like that can be variable even on deep dives

BETC is similar

[ancient lily]

Beat C

[unborn obsidian]

i remember attempting a certain deep dive 3 times

first time everyone died to BETC

second time everyone died to Nemesis

third time i did it solo and neither of those enemies appeared

[ancient lily]

Nemesis a hoe

It says "We're rich" but it's a robot

There is no "we" and it cant be rich

[sinful pewter]

Fr

[unborn obsidian]

i swear whenever nemesis appears my teams collective iq drops significantly

because they never keep their distance even in the largest of caves

[runic relic]

Just taking a closer lo...

[keen cedar]

A lot of people are probably unfamiliar with how it works

Its pretty rare it shows up

[sinful pewter]

It just grabs you when you get too close, just dont get close to it.
Easy

And and shoots a shield from time to time

[ancient lily]

How many shields could a shield shield if a shield could shield shields

[sinful pewter]

🗿

[ancient lily]

🗿 when

[stray beacon]

Does anybody have tips for the 2nd level of the EDD? We come it with 2 resupplys but it feels never ending.

[verbal light]

C4 the scout (works every time)

[maiden matrix]

Stage two of the Edd feels rough

Struggling with it this week

[dense pebble]

Time swarms. There’s one egg swarm, and a delayed swarm triggered each time you first come nearby a MULE and one of its legs.

If you’re ready for it, you can identify it and exterminate it quickly before it has time to spread out.

[onyx dirge]

Never knew about a mule swarm, thanks

[patent elk]

This

Essentially pick an objective, clear the swarm it brings, rinse and repeat until you're done

Unless you got super sweaty speedrunners on your team don't do all the objectives at once or you'll get overwhelmed quick

[onyx dirge]

And dodge the detonator explosion at refuelling

[unborn obsidian]

the level 700 driller immediately popped an egg and got everyone killed while he was making the worst bunker in existence

[onyx dirge]

Yeah bunkers go quite bad with stage 2

[unborn obsidian]

we ended up surviving the swarm but dying to an ambush

the driller buried his body in a deep hole during an ambush

then rage quit when we lost

[loud gull]

I was just doing a deep dive, and i disconnected because there was a new update

[shrewd mason]

np u can rejoin i believe

[compact shard]

Is stage 1 edd always with jet boots?

[bleak oak]

Yes

I had to rerun the edd so many times and it was always there

[tired spear]

question do deepdives only give that 1.5K / 1.7K pass exp or do they also give some pass exp for each segment?

because ngl if it barely gives more than regular single mission quite terrible

[patent elk]

Not sure but deep dive's main purpose is to give blank cores, weapon OCs, and skins and for late game challenges. They're not really comparable to normal missions (also no minerals outside of gold and nitra).

[ancient cove]

I guess I'll skip deep dives this week

My internet disconnects from time to time.
And Starfield is way too good

[old widget]

They give the amount of performance points equivalent to one 15~20k xp mission, so not much PP for your time.

[tired spear]

yea atleast thats a nice thing having it basicaly tripple weekly OCs you can get on average

[tired spear]

yea when i looked at wiki i missread it as giving 15-20K pass exp at first

but oh well the grind never ends

[unborn obsidian]

if you die but still beat a stage you still get rewared for those objectives you did complete

[still geode]

yes

but if you want to try again, you'll have to start at the beginning

[dusty spire]

My team of 4 drillers survived through it with two mega bunkers for uplink and refuel

Granted we had no bulks on either bunker which is lucky

[onyx dirge]

Bulks are the only reason I lost stage 2 twice

[dusty spire]

I had lost to stage 2 like 6 times before

[onyx dirge]

🫡 respect for trying again

[crimson iris]

build a respectable underbunkie (for both the uplink and refueling)

got the edd on 2nd try with randoms

(they definately carried me)

the underbunkies made stage 2 a cakewalk compared to what it could have been

[marble mango]

second stage is a menace for EDD. got 2 bulks right there

[winged ledge]

how do i check if ive done deep dive this week?

[wanton thunder]

if stages are yellow inside
if they are black, then go for it

i mean the numbers of stages on the DD screen in spaace rig

[winged ledge]

Ah thanks

[dawn vapor]

im new to deep dives

and i need to farm overclocks

is anyone willing to take a idiot that would take a slot with himself ?

idk when

def not now

[opaque tide]

Help, i cant talk or join anything

[flat panther]

same

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[opaque tide]

I did

I clicked steam

[flat panther]

same

[burnt sandal]

then you wait for the bot to update

[opaque tide]

Twice actually, in the morning and now

[next pebble]

Role machine 🅱️roke

[echo quarry]

anyone up to do the deep dive? would be my first time doing one, i main scout

[eager atlas]

I don't care if I die now, got two levels of the EDD solo, freaking regenerative bugs

[eager atlas]

ahhh
I died during the escape of the last one, freaking pair of rolly pollies comboed me in a narrow tunnel

[graceful obsidian]

Anyone down to take a greenbeard to beat their first Elite Deep Dive?

[shell shuttle]

looking for a fourth on xbox/win store for the elite, on eastern servers

we're up now

[hidden saffron]

whats up with the DRG chat?

says I don't have premission

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[hidden saffron]

that is odd. I swear I never had that issue before. Thanks!

[burnt sandal]

because things got changed recently

[hidden saffron]

Oh. Any particular reason?

[cunning pond]

Do you have a macro for this exact text

[dull stag]

WHY TF

Does a bulk spawn

during triangulation

What am I suppose tod o

Its a bulk

in triangulation

[rancid cedar]

leadbursters and ifgs hard counter bulks

[dull stag]

I was on Engie

and there was not enough breach cutter shots

[burnt sandal]

You can :

• slow the bulk long enough to deal with it (and in solo with bosco's help, you can do so indefinitely)
• leave the triangulation to deal with it as you see fit, as long as it doesn't reach 0

[dull stag]

in the world to stop taht chonky boy

[dull stag]

maybe, the black box spawned in a really shit place

its backed up against the wall

and infront of it is the drop pod

There was a like a swarm too

with slashers, septic, warden, mactera

couldn't play the game lmao

[gleaming night]

finally leveling gunner; auggestions for neurotoxin loadout and usage?

meant this for general but w.e

[limpid cedar]

Hello

[austere fiber]

Bring fear mod on heavy cannon and a good accurate single target secondary you'll be chilling

[gleaming night]

already running that out of intuition nice, ty

[wraith shard]

elite second level is a real one

[burnt sandal]

yes

[unique ore]

there are some rng aspects, and different number of players also changes some stuff

the terrain gen stays the same, I mean stuff like static spawns like betc or robot turret locations/types, etc

[wraith shard]

and passed the EDD

[spare glacier]

What is the elite deep dive

I mean like what tasks

[burnt sandal]

check the pinned message

it updates each week

[spare glacier]

where?

[burnt sandal]

here

[spare glacier]

oh I see

[raven carbon]

Weekly core hunt and deep dive should be fairly manageable, you'll need a good team for elite

[raven carbon]

You might want to try and combine the egg and mule discovery spawns to save ammo and time

[random hawk]

ERR://23OY%/ WHAT IT IS

?

[untold saddle]

error cube, gives xp. Does nothing else

[random hawk]

ok

[untold saddle]

And an achievement once you collect a few

[random hawk]

how to get them?

[untold saddle]

Look for grey spikes in a wall with a pink glow

[random hawk]

thanks

[untold saddle]

And dig it out like you would dig out jadiz/aquarqs...

[random hawk]

thanks

[untold saddle]

Also if you get a role in #welcome-and-rules you can chat in #drg-chat where stuff like this is more relevant

[gusty topaz]

guys

is there a firing range in DRG

like a way to test weapons

?

[pseudo shell]

There is in mods, but in vanilla no

[gusty topaz]

why not

[pseudo shell]

The space rig wasnt designed with it in mind. Its effectively a seperate level. If they were to put a shooting range in, they would either need to
A: rework how the spacerig is done entirely which is too much work for one thing
Or
B: add a shooting range thats seperate and has a loading screen. They wont do this because in this time you can just load a mission and get the same thing done

[leaden cypress]

why would they need to rework how the spacerig works ?

There used to be a firing range within the space rig through mods which worked fine

[pseudo shell]

Its literally backend how it is coded

[leaden cypress]

And anyone could join

[pseudo shell]

Yeah, those mods remade the spacerig backend to support it

[leaden cypress]

Why not implement it the same way then

[pseudo shell]

Because they dont want nor need to

Its already been made

You use the mods

[leaden cypress]

Deprecated

Well now sandbox ut exists so i don't really care

Though i don't think the funny guys in console or MS Store have access to that

[pseudo shell]

Aint their problem if its depreciated. You're SOL

[leaden cypress]

Never said it was their problem

[pseudo shell]

Then we're at an agreement. Devs wont do it because it already exists and itd require too much backend work to fix

[trail pivot]

people bring up the shooting range so much

realistically noone would use it

[unique ore]

unless it allows you to spawn in bugs, id rather just use the sandbox mod

I just wish it had the actual bug names instead of the developer names

[hazy hill]

чуваки кто пойдет со мной

[burnt sandal]

#fan-communities

[hazy hill]

спасибо

[balmy sinew]

Not much reason not to have one regardless though imo, can help for just letting people tinker a little more easily with their weapons and setups without needing to go into missions to test them every time.

Could help for grenade-tossing practice too.

[dense pebble]

I mean, you get the trajectory shown already

So thats not really very important

[tight shadow]

howdy

[hushed cloak]

Any tips on EDD? I keep dying on the second part, and i tried TOO many times

[mental rampart]

Turns out you cannot kill a dreadnought with a pumpjack

[silent comet]

But you can with flares?

Very strange.

[raven carbon]

Solo or team? Which class?

[hoary wing]

Gosh the edd just has every annoying enemy in droves

[wraith shard]

The last one did too

[boreal spade]

Just did my first melee-only deep dive.

[unborn obsidian]

my first attempts were alright but a the qronar horde just all collect inside the hole where the drop pod

[boreal spade]

Kinda dope, great team, good times.

[unborn obsidian]

so we didnt survive

my last attempts were with super high levels but the driller messed it up

[loud gull]

I unfortunately could not rejoin

[small pine]

stage 2 is rly the hardest, 1 and 3 are easy. But for 2, I'd argue maybe bring 2 gunners? Having 2 shields when you have to be inside the green circle might be rlyrly good, if u both dont throw it out at the same time and communicate

maybe also a sludge pump driller could be good due to the amount of grunts

[shrewd mason]

Oh man that s strange sry m8

[loud gull]

Yeah, it was a private one

[shrewd mason]

2 engi are better than 2 gunners

[loud gull]

Atleast he died in the 3rd stage tho

Wait is there a new deep dive?

[shrewd mason]

Well not since I last told you

[small pine]

but the shield tho

[loud gull]

Whats the nom elite deep dive biome this time

[shrewd mason]

M8 I guess you never met a good engi m8

[shrewd mason]

I Will look up give me a sec

[loud gull]

Aight

[small pine]

what can engi do when forced inside the green circle that makes him better than gunner? I'd love to know

[loud gull]

Well , engi is red , and bugs don't like red

Bugs prefer eating gunner over engi, this is because gunner is fatter than engi

[eager atlas]

I spit purple death and turret whip death at them and it worked surprisingly well, ymmv

[runic relic]

2 engi 2 gunners seriously though, no need for driller on this one

[loud gull]

Hey why can i only type in this chat?

[shrewd mason]

Well if you have a driller he s supposed to drill ahah

[shrewd mason]

Whut the best compo personally is 2 engi, scout, driller

Never failed one mission like that

[shrewd mason]

Strange man

[small pine]

ok dude

[eager atlas]

check #welcome-and-rules get a role

[shrewd mason]

And even so, where he puts the turrets is very important some people just deploy them randomly. If the engi hasn’t at least 1/3 more kills than the second top kill he s usless

[shrewd mason]

I see the driller as a key to every missions. He s easily the top 2 class and is very solide to clear swarms with the right build. Of course engi is way ahead since he has 4 sources of shooting power but the driller is quite the monster for aoe. He lacks a lot in single target but for everything else you can easily carry a lobby in hazard 5. Of course the engi is just an absolute beast of he has a minimum of brain activity and is skilled

[runic relic]

Thanks for the new copy pasta

[shrewd mason]

Wdym? Ahah

[rancid cedar]

naw

the only thing engi really provides the team is bug repellent

[rancid cedar]

not having a gunner on ur team makes the mission way harder imo due to his sustained dps and shields. Not to mention he has the 3 most op overclocks in the game

that being said, haz 5 is easy enough that any combination of classes can work. I think having a gunner tho helps a lot when playing any difficulty u aren’t comfortable with.

[shrewd mason]

oh brother i don t know which engi you ve been playing it or how you re playing it i can assure you, engi clowns every other class in my opinion. I just play it when i see that i will have to cary asf. i don t think you realize how destroying can engi be

[shrewd mason]

yes but with bad m8s it s becomes really hard, it s like a negative side

[rancid cedar]

engi is my second most played class. Iv got 56 promos in him. Iv played him on haz 5, haz 6, and 6x2. Engi is very bursty and good at controlling bug pathing. However he struggles when overwhelmed since he has very little survivablity ( this is why many ppl consider engi the worst class in modded). That being said i’m not saying he’s bad. I enjoy playing him a lot. It’s just that he doesn’t have nearly as many recovery options for when things go south or the team gets overrun, so i find him the hardest to carry new players with on 6x2 and higher. He’s at his best when things are going well and bugs are dying before they reach him but that isn’t always the case

[rancid cedar]

ideally engi sets up repellent to make the uplink significantly more defensible for everyone on the team. Bug repellent is legitimately the strongest part of engineers kit when used well

[small pine]

ok thank you for answering that

[small pine]

on my elite DD, the engineer did do that and I sort of dont entirely understand the value of it but I should look into it to see how it works

also you mentioned gunner has the 3 most OP OCs, which ones would that be? is one of them the neurotoxin one for the autocannon?

[next briar]

i cant use drg chat how come

[small pine]

on my EDD I ran carpet bomber cuz I knew it would have an insane amount of grunts, but it feels so freaking bad when u have to kill anything bigger than those grunts with armor

[rancid cedar]

basically it forces bugs to walk around plats. This is amazing for 2 reason. This clumps up the bugs by forcing them to come from artificial “chokes” aka gaps in your platforms. It also lets you choose what direction they come from. So you can essentially have better line of sight on the bugs. For ex, say ur fighting in front of a wall, you can force the bugs to move towards you from the front where you can see them coming instead of behind where you have less time to react

[shrewd mason]

engi is not just shooting arround like other classes it requieres a bit of brain and people don t put thr turres in the optimal way in 90 percent of cases

[still geode]

even a turret placed in the optimal spot is limited by it not doing that much damage

[small pine]

okay, that's rly good. I'll def use bug repellant more when playing engi

[shrewd mason]

i can t talk for modded , you talked about survivibility but it s close to impossible to get to him

[rancid cedar]

when overwhelmed you have the least amount of good options. Driller has insane cc, gunner has shields and fear spam, scout has immortality in the hands of someone that uses grappling hook well. Engi pretty much has to rely on killing enemies before they reach him

[rancid cedar]

turrets help mop up stragglers but they aren’t that game changing. The mission isn’t gonna fail just cus engi put his turrets in a meh spot

[still geode]

the amount of missions i lost due to engis placing their turrets badly is like <1%

even for the missions where you could say that it mattered there were like 40 other things that could've been done differently before that point

[rancid cedar]

When missions fail is when gunner doesn’t use his shield at a good time, or scout doesn’t collect nitra, or driller isn’t helping to thin out the fodder well enough

[small pine]

what would u say are gunners 3 strongest OC's? U mentioned he has some rly OP ones

[still geode]

minelayer, hellfire, ntp, pbm

[dense pebble]

carpet bomber

[rancid cedar]

oh ye pbm exists too now. The devs love giving him broken shit

[rancid cedar]

bruh i wish cb was good

[dense pebble]

it is

[still geode]

for farming swarmer tunnels

[dense pebble]

they made its bonus a multiplier instead of additive

so the mods boost it a ton.

very good

[rancid cedar]

the main thing that did was let it one shot swarmers

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[rancid cedar]

besides that it’s almost identical

[small pine]

isnt NTP very single target focused?

[rancid cedar]

no

[still geode]

ntp does whatever ntp wants to do as long as ur shooting enemies that can be feared or that are slower than you

which is like 95% of the enemies

because all your problems will either walk away from you, or you can walk away from them

while everything conveniently dies to damage over time effects that are trivial to apply

[rancid cedar]

neurotoxin payload fears and slows enemies so theyr constantly running away from you and dying to the dot

[still geode]

the few things it struggles against are stuff like shellbacks and patrol bots which are fear immune, durable, and fast

[hasty hull]

Rok

[tribal sequoia]

stn

[shrewd mason]

man i assure yu thoe turreets are game changing

if you know where to place them it s like a safety zone for everyone

[still geode]

yeah because those turrets will definitely keep it safe from 4 guards because turrets definitely have enough damage output to kill 4 guards

[shrewd mason]

a lot of people don t get that but mob clearing is engi and driller job

[shrewd mason]

bruh man as if guard were the only things that popped

[still geode]

do they do any better against praetorians than against guards?

[shrewd mason]

the lock gun is an absolute beast and peard up with a brech cutter that destroys shields the big guys become mushy asf

[still geode]

or maybe the turret is going to save you by shooting the unbreakable oppressor armor until it runs out of ammo

[rancid cedar]

driller is def cc but engi is a lot more flexible. He has a lot of both aoe and single target options . I think he is more defined by having “burstier” weapons compared to gunners sustain heavy weapons.

[shrewd mason]

you can t see a point huh? it s pointless to argue if you can t understand what other people are saying

[rancid cedar]

turrets are not saving you from even a haz 5 swarm. They are just for mopping up strays that get past ur primary forms of aoe, which in most cases is driller or gunner

[still geode]

i understand what you're saying

and i'm telling you that what you're saying is wrong

[shrewd mason]

the breach cutter with a nice line can erase pretty much everyting except big guys and breaks their armors for others to destroy it

with the lock you destroy flying targets and spreders in terms of second

[rancid cedar]

i won’t deny bc is strong but it doesn’t do anything that driller and gunner can’t

[shrewd mason]

well the point is they really carry i understand the driller, strong asf, but engi played well is a life saver. turrets won t do all the job but with grenades plus lock and breach cutter you destroy and clear for the team

[still geode]

and what does engi offer the moment his firepower is insufficient?

gunner still has shields, driller still has drills, scout can still escape to collect nitra or complete objectives

engi? engi dies

[shrewd mason]

how can u ven say that? what class is your main?

[still geode]

gunner

though i play all 4

[shrewd mason]

LMAO

[still geode]

mostly gunner and engi though

[shrewd mason]

global lvl?

[still geode]

14

its in the name

[shrewd mason]

oh man get out lmao i m off you re dtill a green beard with no self awarness

[still geode]

xddddddddddd

yep def a green beard

thats why i play haz7x2

[shrewd mason]

i m not discussing the utility of driller he s a beast man, just gunner not found of it, even with the neurotoxin stuff i don t trully see where he is essential besides his shields

[rancid cedar]

Engi well played has a lot of killing power and can make a location much more defensible with bug repellent. But I really think you are overlooking some of the key weaknesses he has. Again if we compare him gunner, his weapons are way burster and therefore don’t hold up as well when completely overwhelmed. He doesn’t have good panic options compared to the other classes (scout hook, driller drills or just cc spam, gunner shield or fear spam)

[still geode]

shields r literally the best class specific tool in the game

[dense pebble]

When engi has a plan, nothing can stop him. But the second the plan goes wrong he’s in big trouble

[shrewd mason]

i agrre that s why good engies that carry are difficult to find

[shrewd mason]

but once he s calm and know his stuff it s a monster

[outer cloud]

i thought engi was the strongest class when i was starting out but the better i get the worse engi feels lol

[dense pebble]

He has the most dps

But uses the most ammo

[shrewd mason]

why so?

[dense pebble]

Also OCs help a ton as always

[rancid cedar]

no class is essential. You can beat haz 5 with any class pretty easily. They all have certain strenths and weaknesses. Imo engis weakness is survival ability which is felt more whenever you play a difficulty above what ur comfortable on

[shrewd mason]

fair enough but with a good scout easy

[dense pebble]

With a good team even haz 5 is easy

[rancid cedar]

like even ppl who main engi on haz 5 usually start off playing 6x2 with a different class cus staying alive as him is so much more difficult

[dense pebble]

Thats why haz 6 mods exist lol

[still geode]

dont even need a good team

one good player is more than sufficient

[shrewd mason]

i m really up for that where can i get it?

[still geode]

you just notice it more if that good player is playing engi because engi is better at stealing kills from other classes

[dense pebble]

Modding tab, hit escape and its there

For PC at least

[rancid cedar]

especially if the good player is a gunner. And god forbid he brings ntp or minelayer

[shrewd mason]

stilling kills lmao

[rain crest]

Just use the fat boy over clock

[still geode]

a lot of engis strength is burst dmg

[rancid cedar]

by stealing kills aj means that, since you have more sources of dmg, it’s more likely for you to be the one finishing off enemies. So it’s every easy to get the most kills as engi even when playing very passively

[still geode]

if a group of enemies spawn u can use ur burst dmg to kill loads of them before other classes have a chance to get their share of kills

[shrewd mason]

naaaaaah that s some shit i hate it s such an L it s for skilless players and most of the times it s friendly fire

[still geode]

this results in engi getting more kills

[rancid cedar]

i get most kills on haz 5 by just throwing shredder nades and putting up turrets lol

[outer cloud]

fat boy is one of the worst ocs in the game, total pain in the ass to play with because the radiation field lasts forever and hurts dwarves more than bugs

[rancid cedar]

ye it’s this too. Engi can unload his ammo supply a lot faster then the others

[still geode]

when you're playing on higher difficulties where engi can't just burst everything down it's usually driller who gets the most kills

but driller doesnt get a chance to get kills if engi shoots vir all over the place when enemies spawn before they get close enough for driller to use his flamethrower

[shrewd mason]

yep i know that much but it s burst that savecs a lot of times, i think for killing scout and driller are a must, scout for ressources, and man i could easily replace a gunner with a drller or even an engy

[rain crest]

True i did not even have the fat boy over clock but my friend has just kept using the fat boy