deep-dive-discussion

[woeful niche]

honestly just do it if u need to cus edds already give fuck tons of nitra and this one aint an exception

[narrow creek]

I had a question, but general chat is too active - do the Special Bolts: Chemical Explosion for Scout's crossbow trigger Bullets of Mercy on the GK2?

[unique plover]

bruh i got a bulk during the fuel cells stage on stage 2

and the cell's postion was super awkward

[mellow cradle]

yes

[late snow]

Wait what a good strategies for elite deep dive?

[ancient cove]

If you play in a team, I think Sticky flames as Driller are very good for EDD. Last stage has tons of swarmers, they eat a lot of ammo. But Cryo is better for dreadnoughts.
And this EDD don't have that much Nitra. We run out of Nitra at the end. Was just enough to reach the drop pod.
For Gunner I would take Burning Hell, Minigun is better for single target, to fight dreadnoughts and burning hell will also deal fast with swarmers and another bug if they come too close.
Engineer: DON'T take Fat Bot. Either Hyper Propelant or Shard Diffractor

[coral pond]

Breach cutter

And tbh lsls>burning hell

Lsls + hellfire covers everything

Sticky flames is good, but you'd be essentially useless during the 4 dreads you gotta deal with, i'd recommend VIM sludge pump over anything else(though cryo is very good too since cold radiance can deal with swarmers nicely)

[olive flicker]

If run the enemies explode t5 on wave cooker that will make swarmers a joke.

And you get to run pimples for dreads.

[olive flicker]

Wow stage 2 fuel cells is brutal.

[ancient cove]

stage 2 cave is a ass

[olive flicker]

That's either a engi for platforms or dig it down.

I tried digging myself space as driller but it was useless.

Even a single preto dying will eat up all the space you have to stand.

Uplink is ok.

I put down a resup as cover against spreaders from below.

Digging it down seems pretty viable though.

[full saddle]

stage 2 devilish...

[sharp tundra]

Honestly this Edd is highly dependent on your loadout. It can be very easy or impossible

[humble harbor]

solo gunner where my entire loadout creates a million little spicy holes

[onyx dirge]

3rd attempt at the EDD today, lowest level team of the attempts. Had a scout who was having a hard time lighting up and mining the nitra. I did not have a lot of faith. Then we got to the combat parts, barely made it every time. The scout was just zipping everywhere reviving everyone at one point. At the end we made it with some IW to spare. Just really showed me again that you can't judge the team by their levels. Rock and stone

[ancient cove]

It was the first EDD even I started requiring lvl100+ after 2 attempts

Best people who don't even read lobby description, if someone joins with lvl20 I have no second throughts on kicking

[sharp tundra]

Ur a prick. My first elite deep dive I carried and had over 1000 kills

Don’t underestimate low lvl players and don’t trust high lvl players

[tall relic]

Playing EDDs with inexperienced players can be frustrating tbf

But if you're gonna be like that then don't even play with randos

[olive flicker]

#drg-gallery message
Successful solo attempt #2

1st time doing an EDD on driller.

Drilling the fuel cells down works well.

[signal leaf]

i think cometics guy likes pioneer

wait this is the wrong server

[rigid sorrel]

Rock and Stone. I gotta commend them greenbeards who take on the tough challenges.

[warm idol]

hola

[kindred coyote]

im sorry but some people shouldnt be allowed to do elite deep dives

😭 yes i know u dont know what theyre like but i am not going to carry you for an hour only to lose on stage 3 i regret not doing it solo

i think most ppl dont understand that edds are harder than haz 5

[arctic plover]

Depends. I love greenbeards with enthusiasm, but don't be double dipping resupplys or calling in a resupply right when we kill the last dread in stage 1

[coral pond]

They tend to be easier, honestly, since nitra carries beyond stages. So you have more flexibility for stuff like using random resupplies for health

It's not uncommon to finish an edd with like 300+ nitra, unless you're insanely inefficient

[onyx dirge]

Yup, except for this one

[tiny portal]

Sounds like a skill issue on your part

Real greybeards carry the greenbeards

Im lvl 200+ but most dives the lvl 40 players do just fine

[onyx dirge]

It's rewarding work showing the greenbeards the ropes and it's a good way of improving their skills early on

[tiny portal]

Yes, most of them are doing the EDD because they want a challenge and are willing to listen and improve

[knotty otter]

How does one mod the sludge pump

[tiny portal]

For...? This EDD?

[knotty otter]

sure

[warm idol]

hola

[tiny portal]

My build is 13221 VIM (Violent Impact Mixture)

It is good for dreads since you dont need to hit their weakspots for it to do dmg (it ignores armor)

And VIM makes it so that every shot does a lot of direct damage, so you can just spam it

[arctic plover]

I feel like disperser compound works pretty well for this edd with the cc it can bring

Especially for stage 2

[tiny portal]

Its so much worse for the dreads though

I like disperser too but not here

[arctic plover]

I use it with gamma contamination to bring dreads to a crawl

It does decent damage too

[tiny portal]

Its both nice I guess

[olive flicker]

I'd recommend VIM over disperser because of the dreads.

[arctic plover]

The slow especially helps if your team is struggling

Gives em more breathing room

[olive flicker]

You can run densification ray on cooker if you want more cc.

[tiny portal]

You can get the slow with VIM too

And since you spam it the dread is always slowed

[olive flicker]

There are 4 dreads so it helps to run a dread focused setup.

Plus the single target is good for dealing with stingtails as well.

[arctic plover]

Fair point

My last EDD had horrible luck with uplink

It spawned next to a cliff and a bulk spawned 10m from it

[olive flicker]

Drill the fuel cell down.

[arctic plover]

I was gunner with NTP

[olive flicker]

The spawn locations are fixed.

You need something to deal with dreads and something to deal with haz 5.5 swarmageddon.

[arctic plover]

Took your advice with the build. Drop pod spawned and after I drilled through the dirt,one of the gunners somehow died and THEN wasted iron will will in the first minute of the dive. Host aborted the mission

After we went back to the rig, he bought a leaf lovers

[olive flicker]

Solo most consistent.

[arctic plover]

At this point probably

I just left the lobby after that

[sharp tundra]

“Not gonna carry” bruh someone carried you at one point without being such a downer. Either solo or gut it up

[azure hawk]

How many FUKING STINGTAIL ARE ON THE SECOND MISSION OF THE ELITE ONR

[vital sphinx]

All of them apparently

[thick sapphire]

stingtail volleyball

[azure hawk]

I also had 2 detonators on the second floor

1 on the starting room and one after 1 egg

[arctic plover]

Rip

Septic spreaders have the aim of a special forces sniper

[onyx dirge]

2nd stage:
-starting room starts with some big swarm before you did everything
-second room has more spreaders a nd Sting tails than grunts
-mini mule next to The Deathpit TM
-5 detonators

[azure hawk]

The second floor is a nightmare

[arctic plover]

The room has more bugs than a normal swarm alert in haz 5 lol

Thats what it feels like anyway

[azure hawk]

The second floor main Hazzard:
200 stingtails
1 random leach on the top of the huge main cavern just to mess with you
The second mule is on the edge of a knife hill, a nightmare to get leggs too

And finally
The fuel of the droppod spawn next to the main room ravine

With all those stingtail it's a death sentence

[quasi sleet]

if it's next to the ravine, knock it down into the ravine to make it easier on you

[azure hawk]

Yes but I was solo

Either gunner or scout

How am I supposed to send it down?

[quasi sleet]

resupply pod does a great job

[azure hawk]

Hm..,

[short bloom]

I'd say about 9, turrets don't care

Didn't, I mean

Did the bulk spawn ?

[azure hawk]

Yep

2

Of them

[arctic plover]

Finally got past stage 2

[vast cedar]

this weeks deepdive gave me PTSD

I beat it

but jesus christ

so many stingtails

but breach cutter makes quick work of them

[sharp tundra]

Damn guess I had a good team and good rng

[arctic plover]

I wiped at stage 3

[short bloom]

It's ok, stage two is the one you should be giving the finger to, 3 is easy to get around

Since you nailed 2, the edd is practically in the bag

[knotty otter]

just got the Sticky flames OC
how do i mod?

[vast cedar]

Stage 1 isnt bad
stage 2 was defo where the issues started to come
stage 3 is just a repeat of stage 1 with a better layout aside from some of the spitballers having evil placement

[sharp tundra]

Stage 2 only a problem if you stand near the cliff edge for the refill or whatever

Cuz stingtail

[ancient cove]

Biggest problem with Stage 2 is the Cave layout, it's hard to navigate and a Stingtail can easily grab you down and you will have a hard time to navigate back to the team, unless you're a Scout or Driller.
I failed first two times, because I was playing gunner. First time was just unlucky, Engi crashed or dced, Driller had a weak Flamethrower build and Scout was green.
Second time, same Driller, same Scout, the battery landed on the edge and as we were done, I was grabbed by Stingtail.
I don't know what happened, but while I was fighting back to my team, all went down and I was facing like 5 Stingtails and 4 Septics with a lot of other different bugs.
Simple had no chance, managed to use Shield 2 times, but couldn't reach any teammates to revive them

[azure hawk]

At one point, all the grunts stopped spawning, only slasher from that point onward

80% of the normal enemies were slashers

80% of the heavy enemies were stingtail

And those leaches are so strategically placed it's insane

+whoever allowed to let that mule spawn like that on that knife hill need to go to jail, that's absolutely outrageous

[thick sapphire]

if it weren't two elim stages i'd say an engi could go rj250 lol

[coral pond]

Why did y'all stay up top for the uplink/refuel? Could've communicated to the driller to dig it down to a better spot(refuel AFTER you connect it ofc)

[knotty otter]

How does one mod for Sticky flames
and Plasma Charger

[still geode]

23232 and 21222

[native bridge]

theres alot more if you play with 4 players, but solo was managable

[still geode]

23221 if ur not running the sticky fuel overclock

[azure hawk]

I did it solo twice
Scout doesn't have enough fire power to deal with the waves on the fuel/uplink , especially with the stingtails taking you out of the zone

Then I tried gunner and did pretty good untill a stingtail angled a perfect shot wile I was on iron will and flinged me outside the map

I reached the top of the broken drop pod hole

Then I gave up because that's some bullshit

[native bridge]

i did as a scout, i used cryo nades, embedded det and thermal exhast drak

[azure hawk]

I don't have the last one

[native bridge]

not saying it was a walk in the park though

[tiny dagger]

this edd is HELL

[native bridge]

idk, its managable if your smart, way harder with a mediocre team

i do have 700 hours so im not a newbie

[azure hawk]

I have a question, how are deep dives decided?

[native bridge]

randomly i assume

[azure hawk]

Because I swear

[native bridge]

i remember beginning of season 2 you got 2 robot bosses in one edd

[azure hawk]

This second mission seems to be strategically designed to be as hard and annoying as possible

[native bridge]

was actually hell

back when robots were even worse too

[azure hawk]

The way the fuel spawn next to the ravine

The abnormal spawn of stingtail

The second mule spawning in the worse place possible

That one caveleach on top of the main area so high that you can't easily see it

The spitter turrets above you to snipe you better

I had one try where a bet c and a breeder spawned

I was super happy to face the bet-c but ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED AT THE BREEDER SPAWNING AN ARMY ON THE OTHERS SIDE OF THE CAVE

I also like how sometimes the game taunt me with a random order that you know you don't have the time to kill

[tiny dagger]

i cant do this edd

i swear i got the same terrain twice

with zero nitra

[thick sapphire]

it's always the same terrain in a given week

[quasi sleet]

you can save ammo if you pull the swarm egg and immediately call the drop pod

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[native bridge]

oh yeah that fuel spawn, i had my engie put a platform there last minute cause they called a resup there, but solo wasnt an issue

again im proven that solo dives are significantly easier than with 4 players

[quasi oracle]

It depends. Solo you don’t have to worry about sharing pods. But everything targets you.

[native bridge]

kiting with scout, and bosco is a good boy

most fun i ever had with this game is kiting a giant haz 5 horde and using the haunted bug to kill them

[mortal wharf]

I did 3 EDD attempts earlier (managed on the 3rd thankfully)
one of my fave memories was from I think the 2nd try where (iirc) a cave leech got one of us, I killed it and started to rez and then another got me
then our scout ran over and didn't kill it, started to rez and then ye, 3 of us down

[uneven crypt]

got it finally

that second mission is a nightmare

[ivory iris]

Are deep dives easier with a duo?

[sharp tundra]

Yk I got this one done first try

Wasn’t too bad

[kindred coyote]

yeah i know its not rlly their fault i just think itd be better for the game to show how hard edds truly are

also somebody left during stage 3 so that didnt make it any easier

just annoying spending an hour doin all that

[jagged rapids]

My (hopefully helpful) tips for this week's EDD:

-If you get all the nitra (lootbugs help but not required), you'll have about 8 resupplies overall. Maybe 9 if you get all lootbugs

• 2 resupplies at most should be used stage 1
• at least one person should have one high damage weapon (lotta dreads, lotta mactera, a few bulks)
• expect stingtails, ping them at all costs. You hear that ping, kill it at all costs. Same with spreaders, these will get you
• red rock blaster or tunnel rat recommended for beer (tunnel bc of stings and getting yeeted into a pit... Beer saved my life).
• engi with shock blast turrets will be a godsend for ALL stages, especially 3 to help with easy swarmer clear
• for stage 2, do NOT fight in the open. The tunnel you use to enter the main cave is your best friend. It only has 2 sightlines: the cave opening and the other end of the tunnel leading to the starting cave. Engi turrets covering both with shock turrets is nice swarm control
• the refuel is in a worse spot than the uplink for stage 2 as it's near a bit of a cliff/sharp corner. Both are near the droppod on the same level tho but engi turrets can help make a nice extended ground
• crowd control is essential bc of regenerative bugs S3 and swarmaggedeon. My teams builds were mostly CC focused and scout did a hell of a lot of the dread DPS build while we just had average damage for the dread
• on every stage, know where the best fighting place is. Get there ASAP and call your team over. It's easy to panic when caught in a room and try to fight in the open bc it's a decent room but this week's EDD you will easily be surrounded. With the stingtails and spreaders you want to be fighting in a nice 3 sided area or an open tunnel with only 2 sight lines

[sharp tundra]

No jet boots I’m pretty sure

[jagged rapids]

Ah ok, maybe I mixed that up with the DD

I always forget to do these sorta notes while it's fresh in mind

[sharp tundra]

Sound advice. For gunner I’d recommend lsls hellfire and leadbursters. Scout id recommend electric cross bow and a basic all around primary use Ifg. Driller id recommend vim sludge and whatever for secondary. Engie I’d recommend ecr Loki with pack rat breach cutter. Use ssg

Gunner: lsls hellfire leadburster
Scout: general purpose with cc. Ifg
Driller: vim with epc whatever oc. Axes
Engie: ecr with pack rat breach cutter. Ssg

Gunner is gonna have to focus on killing swarmers stage 3

[jagged rapids]

Interesting engi choice. For some reason I never take the Loki into EDDs. It's just my least favorite (but also by far my least used but it's on my to-do list. I can use it no prob, just don't pick it when it really matters)

Overall agree on these recs tho

[sharp tundra]

I personally just don’t like playing close to my sentries

[jagged rapids]

Ah fair enough, I am always moving and using mine

[sharp tundra]

So I’m giving recommendations based off the playstyles ik

[jagged rapids]

I micro manage em

[rancid cedar]

why pack rat lol

[sharp tundra]

Pack rat is the best breach cutter overclock

[rancid cedar]

what

[sharp tundra]

The only weakness of breach cutter is ammo

[jagged rapids]

That's good. I don't know that my style is for all.

I'm the kind of guy infinitely rotating sentries as we slowly escape thru driller tunnel to droppod

[rancid cedar]

what

[sharp tundra]

Yes

[rancid cedar]

dawg what are u smoking

[jagged rapids]

Yee. This is why I had to run Max ammo for it

[sharp tundra]

And ig velocity

[jagged rapids]

But it did the job bc scout was the mega DPS for the team

[rancid cedar]

first off pack rat isn’t on bc

[jagged rapids]

I just needed to be able to hit a lot of things pretty hard

[rancid cedar]

second off no ammo is not an issue for bc

[sharp tundra]

Yk what I’m talking about dummy. Also quit acting like a leaf lover

[jagged rapids]

He's talking about pgl. I'm the one talking about bc lol

[sharp tundra]

I’m talkin breach

[jagged rapids]

You got us mixed up

[jagged rapids]

Oh wait lol

You did

[sharp tundra]

I forget the name of the clean breach cutter overclock

[jagged rapids]

Lololol

[rancid cedar]

@jagged rapids he literally said pack rat on bc

[jagged rapids]

Yeeeaaa I know I just posted it

I think we all got mixed up. It happens, no biggie

[rancid cedar]

lwc is good but imo inferno is better

[sharp tundra]

But still. It is the best one cuz bc has no weaknesses

[rancid cedar]

i didn’t

[sharp tundra]

Inferno on double elim Edd? Interesting

[rancid cedar]

inferno is just more dmg

[jagged rapids]

Alright amigo. You didn't 👍🏿 we did

[sharp tundra]

You can’t light dreadnoughts on fire

[rancid cedar]

inferno increases dmg

it’s a well known bug

why are there so many ppl on this server who pretend to know what theyr talking about

[jagged rapids]

Sure

[rancid cedar]

he’s said like 2 blatently incorrect things back to back

it’s fine to disagree but at least be up to date on the facts if ur gonna argue

[sharp tundra]

-175 dps

[sharp tundra]

Quit being an ass

[rancid cedar]

it’s bugged to increase dmg

inferno is literally just a clean dmg up

[jagged rapids]

Suddenly remembering why I don't participate in chats often

[rancid cedar]

as soon as u quite being wrong

[sharp tundra]

🤓

[jagged rapids]

Lol I just wanted to share things that helped my team with the EDD this week. Not sure why this went so sideways

[rancid cedar]

i just thought it was funny how most the shit he said made no sense

[sharp tundra]

I asked main chat and no one knows what ur talking about @rancid cedar

Anyways the fire dmg still doesn’t apply to dreads

And ur an asshole

And more ammo is usually better even if u were right

[rancid cedar]

bruh you aren’t even listening

it increases dmg AND adds heat

just cus it doesn’t ignite doesn’t mean it decreases dmg

[sharp tundra]

That’s literally what it means dumbass

[hardy bolt]

One of the mini mules in stage 2 elite deep dive is in such a weird spot

[jagged rapids]

Just gonna end this as they seem to be correct:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/tzi9qi/inferno_breach_cutter_is_40_stronger_than_it_says/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2

There's a few posts about it on Reddit

[rancid cedar]

#wiki-related-chatroom message

there is the actual explanation

[rancid cedar]

actually bro ppl in drg chat said inferno bad so actually ur wrong 🤓

[jagged rapids]

Uhhhhh I never said to bring inferno.

[rancid cedar]

that was sarcasm

[jagged rapids]

Oh

Ok

[sharp tundra]

90 percent is heat dmg

Still wrong

And dumb

Check the comments of that post

[rancid cedar]

wow so u didn’t even bother to read it. Cool bro. He literally says that inferno results in 140% dmg + 90% heat due to the way heat conversion works but keep pretending like your right lol

[sharp tundra]

Pretty sure that means 546 dps which is still less than normal

You still have a damage penalty

[coral pond]

Inferno is bugged and does not reduce damage, any actual knowledgeable person here knows that(which is like, 10 people honestly)

[sharp tundra]

Even if you are correct, still isn’t ok that you’re an ass for some reason cuz someone said the second best answer to something. Try to work on that

[rancid cedar]

try not pretending you know what ur talking about and next time i will

[sharp tundra]

Me saying that the fire overclock that says less dmg isn’t too effective on dreadnought isn’t pretending ik what I’m talking about. That’s knowing the games mechanics and making assumptions off of that. Ur still an asshole and ammo overclock on breach cutter is still a great option

[rancid cedar]

lwc is great i just thot it was funny you got the name wrong

[sharp tundra]

Also it isn’t other people’s responsibility for you being an asshole. That’s a you problem buddy

[rancid cedar]

dmg conversion being bugged is a very well known bug tho

[sharp tundra]

On pgl sure not on other weapons you said that urself earlier

[sharp tundra]

.

[rancid cedar]

pgl, inferno and epc all have bugged dmg conversions

[sharp tundra]

Most ppl know about pgl

Only for hp right?

Or for all

[rancid cedar]

i said the opposite lol

[sharp tundra]

Like 10 ppl

[rancid cedar]

i said it’s well known that inferno is broken to increase dmg

that was someone else

[sharp tundra]

Unless u were being a cocky asshole

[rancid cedar]

that was dingus assley

[sharp tundra]

Oh mb

Same color

Got brightness down and was working

[rancid cedar]

the only version of the bug that ppl tend to forgot is burning nightmare cus that one’s a very small dmg increase. Inferno’s bug legit makes it’s dps leagues ahead of the other ocs and it’s very noticeable

[coral pond]

Honestly i think the inferno bug is more common knowledge than all of hp's bugs(the incendiary is very well known, but not the homebrew bug), mostly for people that have been here a while or in like pdrg

[sharp tundra]

Eh I don’t have the overclock so I wouldn’t know

Also it does so high dps already

[rancid cedar]

inferno one shots spitballers

[sharp tundra]

That’s good

[sharp tundra]

Home brew?

Ight I’ll adjust the recommendation. Not actually edit it cuz too lazy. Mb for overreacting

[rancid cedar]

i apologize for coming off annoying

[coral pond]

Pgl's homebrew mod in t4. When using hyper prop, if you have incendiary mod as well, the homebrew mod does legitimately nothing(this isn't a dig at it, it actually just doesn't randomize the damage). If you take off the incendiary mod, homebrew doesn't lower damage(i don't know the exact details, but it's eithere you can only get 100%-140% damage rolls, or just always 140% damage roll)

[rancid cedar]

i don’t even think lwc is bad, i just think inferno is broken

[sharp tundra]

Nah the main thing was I thought dingus was you. Dingus was fine but if it was you would’ve been very condescending since already discussing

[coral pond]

I've heard lwc was considered the best before inferno was found to be bugged, but i didn't play around that time so i'm not confident on that info

[sharp tundra]

Doesn’t need playing around cuz it’s pretty basic. The rest of the overclocks don’t rlly improve the weapon so it wins by default

[rancid cedar]

inferno was ironically considered one of the worst ocs in the game prior to the buff and the bug it recieved

[sharp tundra]

Tho spinning death can be situationally great

[coral pond]

Yeah that was something i hard too. Funny how one accidentally change can completely 180 things

Spinning death do be good at choke points, which engi can create thanks to plats

[sharp tundra]

Also acts like a safe zone and can nearly one shot praetorians max haz max players

[austere lake]

What exactly is deep dive

[wraith shard]

Pretty sure it's 3 missions in a row where health, ammo, and nitra are conserved between missions

And then greater rewards after

[quasi oracle]

Why are y’all having a conversation that should go in a different thread?

On actual deep dive news. The game doesn’t want me completing the second portion. Spawned two bulks in lmao

[coral pond]

it started as recommendations for the dives, therefore it's in the relevant channel

[cunning bronze]

EDD second and third missions are horrendous

fuck it first mission too

this one's just a shitshow

[olive flicker]

Do some terraforming 👍

[cunning bronze]

yes

[full chasm]

I fell asleep mid edd cuz it was too easy

[wraith shard]

Is it still hard to find machine events? I think the machine event grind was what turned me away from the game. I always had 15+ blank overclocks and it was just annoying to find them

[late snow]

Anyone got a tip for 3 players in a edd

[still geode]

inferno is the best overclock for breach cutter

[pliant yoke]

What tip? Are you struggling with something?

[thin drum]

Does doing the current deep dive like 5 times get me the achievement?

[mellow cradle]

the veteran diver achievement?

don't know, never seen anyone do it that way

and I don't recommend it

[foggy holly]

Stage 2 EDD is bad
A stingtail flung me from the refuel cells to the bottom of the cave, loving them 🙂

[late snow]

I can’t get past edd with a 2/3 man team I just promoted and need some help trying to beat it please help with basic tips

[pliant yoke]

Don’t mine gold. Prioritise cave clear and objectives over anything else. Play efficiently and work with your team, but also be able to defend yourself in a pinch (pick a generalist or a specialist loadout, what have you). If you know you will be facing a dreadnaught, have some kind of weapon dedicated to consistent damage output.

I don’t know what the caves’ layouts are, but generally try to play carefully. Don’t pay too much attention to nitra if you already have a lot of it (objectives!).

Also don’t stress over using too much ammo, as throughout the DD you will probably have too much nitra to not be reckless with its use

[coral pond]

It's not uncommon to finish a dd/edd with like 300+ nitra

[late snow]

Ok thx I will try that

[onyx dirge]

My teams were really low on nitra this week's EDD, just too much dreads, bugs and swarmers

[late snow]

Okay

[ancient cove]

same

[late snow]

How did u deal with that

[ancient cove]

Finished without ammo

[coral pond]

That sounds like either an inefficient team comp, or just bad ammo management

[onyx dirge]

The finishing with 300 nitra is familiar for me though, this edd just sucked lol

[late snow]

I can’t get passed level two :c

[onyx dirge]

We managed to get through it with secondaries and iron wills lol

[late snow]

Okay

[onyx dirge]

Yeah level 2 is tough, you have to focus fire on spreaders and Sting tails as much as possible

[ancient cove]

Even if we missed a nitra vein, this EDD don't have as much Nitra as previos

[late snow]

Honestly I need you guys to get past level 2 u sound good

[coral pond]

And there have also been previous with less nitra than this one, that's just rng generation for you

For stage 2 your engi and driller really need to do work to make the uplink/refuel better and then gunner needs to know ow to use shields effectively. Hell when i ran it only one of us made it back to the droppod so we got a bit lucky there(god bless bl4nkets)

[onyx dirge]

I would help if it wasn't so frustrating. Took me 3 attempts

[late snow]

So far 7 attempts

[onyx dirge]

Ah, that's rough. Good job hanging on though

[late snow]

It to fun to give up

[coral pond]

I might have some time for another go in like ~10 hours? If you're still up for it by then

[late snow]

No unfortunately

[coral pond]

Rip

[late snow]

Yeah

[ancient cove]

I would say the current EDD has a normal amount of Nitra, but 4 dreads eat it up.
And I personally don't control which builds randoms take

[coral pond]

Yeah that's just inefficient builds. It happens, randoms are... well, pretty random ig

[late snow]

Oh we run driller engineer and scout

[ancient cove]

my first attemt, engi had fat boy

[onyx dirge]

Where gunner

[coral pond]

No gunner hurts a lot, yeah

Fat boy is an oof on dreads, though some people here swear by it for some reason

[late snow]

Scout doesn’t like gunner so we have to play with scout

[late snow]

We don’t have fat boy :c

[onyx dirge]

Don't you get a 4th player?

[late snow]

No one joins

[coral pond]

Good don't bring fat boy to this edd

[late snow]

Ok

[onyx dirge]

Don't bring it anywhere

[late snow]

Ok

[coral pond]

No gunner is hella rough for stage 2 but can still be manageable with a little luck. If your engi brings EM Discharge with like, VIR shard or Inferno breach cutter, should help with stage 2 shenanigans. Tho he does be a little lackluster against the dreads, scout and driller should be able to handle those with good builds

[late snow]

Ok

[coral pond]

Stingtails seem to be the largest problem on this edd afaik, so driller using axes to stun em for a sec or scout with m1k and stun mod should help

Scout m1k + double barrel boomstick should be good

[late snow]

Can’t you use heightened senses for them tho ?

[onyx dirge]

I guess just being promoted is extra hard as you lack overclocks

[coral pond]

I think so? But it's really jank afaik, i've never used it myself for them

[late snow]

Is the sticky flaim good

[tight flax]

Can I do deep dives multiple times and get more overclocks or does that not work?

[onyx dirge]

Yeah, hearing some good things about it for against swarmers this edd

[coral pond]

Once a week from both regular deep dive and elite

[onyx dirge]

I personally use sludge pump so I don't know

[late snow]

I got two overclocks for sludge

[coral pond]

Sticky flames would be good for stage 2, but you're losing out on a lot of dread damage

[late snow]

Thier both the green one

[tight flax]

So doing them again doesn’t yield any more overclocks?

[coral pond]

Correct, repeat runs just gives xp and credots

[late snow]

What overclock do you use

[tight flax]

ok Thanks

[onyx dirge]

Goo bomber

[late snow]

Oh I only got the green ones

[onyx dirge]

It's not really popular though 🤣

[late snow]

Oh

[coral pond]

Hydrogen Ion Additive wouldn't be that horrible, i guess. AG Mixture is really just meh

[late snow]

Do you match that with microwave

[ancient cove]

I would definitly take Microwave for EDD

Last mission Swarmageddon

[coral pond]

Eh, i tend to take the EPC more these days

[late snow]

Okay

[coral pond]

TCF is just too strong

[late snow]

I got a overclock for the epc

It persistent plasma is it good?

[coral pond]

Considered the best

[pliant yoke]

It’s probably BIS for TCF EPC

[late snow]

What tcf

And bis

[ancient cove]

I'm using EPC primary too. But I was running Cryo and it wasn't good with Swarmageddon.
Took a lot of Cryo ammo to kill all the swarmers

[pliant yoke]

T5B mod for EPC

[pliant yoke]

It’s an acronym for “best in slot”, as in, the best option for a particular modification slot/purpose

[late snow]

Okay

[coral pond]

Cryo is great at killing swarmers though because cold radiance

[late snow]

But none of drillers secondary are good with cryo

That the problem I find

[jade sluice]

best in slot

which it is

[late snow]

Ok

What sbis

[ancient cove]

EPC and Microwave is very good with Cryo. EPC required skill to kill all frozen enemies in it's radius, but Microwave is no brainer. Microwave can do the temperature shock for grunts in few seconds, which will insta kill them

I run Tuned Cooler on Cryo and Wave Cooker with Diffusion Ray OC (which isn't that important for the combo) and Temperature Amplifier and Excothermic Reaction upgrades

But overall I prefer to use EPC, so I can get minerals fast if needed and overall, if you can time the charged shot well, it does a lot of damage

But with EPC, most of the time I just freeze anything in front of me and use Power Drills with Damage upgrade to kill targets, it's not as fast as Wave Cooker, but it deals a lot of damage even to bigger bugs, while they are frozen

[jade sluice]

second best in slot

if i had to guess

[ancient cove]

yeah, it's very fast and good. My only problem with it is current EDD, on Hazard 5.5 with Swarmageddon. Swarm after swarm of Swarmers spawn and as Driller you're basically the only one who can deal with them cheap and fast, but Cryo isn't very cheap, it runs out of ammo relatively fast and it's much better used to deal with bigger enemies.
That's the only reason, why I would recommend using the Wave Cooker for current EDD.

[sharp tundra]

If you have a problem killing swarmers with driller. Then idk what’s ur problem

[sharp tundra]

Gunner can deal with them too

[full chasm]

STOP USING EPC!!

-BULLETS weren't supposed to hit OTHER BULLETS
-YEARS of timing practise yet NO REAL-WORLD USE for doing anything but collecting some nitra on the ceiling
-want to mine a big area quickly anyway? we have a tool for that IT'S CALLED C4
-"yes please align yourself pararell to the wall", "please make sure that nothing is obstructing the path" STATEMENTS DREAMED UP BY THE UTTERLY DERANGED
LOOK what these drillers have been demanding your respect for all this time, with all their TCFs and EPCs we built for them (this is REAL GAMEPLAY, recorded by REAL GRAYBEARDS)
[image of a scout who died of TCF friendly fire] ??
[the timing graph] ???
[charged shot hitting a wall] ????
"hello i'd like to kill [the timing graph, again] grunts please"
they have played us an absolute fools

[ancient cove]

yes, but for Gunner I would take Minigun to deal better with all the Dreadnoughts. Maybe you have an better idea, I played first two times with typical Autocannon build, great for AOE and Swarmer's but less effective against Dreads and bugger Targets like Stingtails that spawn a lof on Stage 3.
On Minigun I run Burning Hell, which is great if Swarmers come near you, but first they have to approach you and not your teammates which I try to protect and are not always near me.

[coral pond]

Thanks for the new copy-pasta

[sharp tundra]

Hellfire

[coral pond]

Lsls + hellfire did great. And since you got hellfire, you can swap blowthrough for armor break on lsls and delete stingtails

[sharp tundra]

Didn’t think of that. Smart

[ancient cove]

I personally don't like Coil Gun

[sharp tundra]

And you don’t rlly need blowthrough for salvage

[sharp tundra]

Why?

[ancient cove]

One shot, then too long to reload. I will give it some more tries later, but not really how I like my guns

I just noticed that I don't even have bought all upgrades for it lol

600h ingame 🙈

What can you recommend for Coil Gun?

22223?

[pliant yoke]

22213 is generally solid

T4 shockwave is kind of pointless, since your trail will probably be efficient enough at killing whatever is in front of you

[candid bobcat]

T4 dmg reduction is very very good

[mellow cradle]

you should take boiler ray instead of temp shock on cryo
it kills frozen grunts just as fast, gives you AoE, and a cheap way to clear swarmers with just your secondary (boiler ray procs even on little enemies)

[ancient cove]

I think you mean Boiler Ray instead of Exothermic Reactior

[mellow cradle]

yes

[ancient cove]

I'll give it a try, thanks

[rancid cedar]

“one shot” of massive fear and heat aoe lol. It’s the strongest oc in the game next to minelayer and ntp

[ancient cove]

And? I can play how I like, not competing for a rank or something

[frail forge]

Smh not trying for Management's free alcohol days

[olive flicker]

I really don't understand why people run temp shock on cryo.

[warped veldt]

it kills stuff fast

[olive flicker]

Anything that takes time to kill you don't want to unfreeze.

[warped veldt]

then dont unfreeze those targets specifically

[olive flicker]

Do you not run the reload mod on t2? I don't think I could use it without that either.

[olive flicker]

But I still want to kill said targets and my drills aren't ranged.

[pliant yoke]

Magnetic Flow is generally more flexible as a mod

[warped veldt]

you can throw axes at said targets

or like, walk towards them

[pliant yoke]

Reload doesn’t allow you to semi-charge your shots, so you can only fire full charges, which isn’t necessary always

[olive flicker]

Sir I freeze targets on walls miles away with snowball.

I'm not killing those things with axes or can walk towards them.

Half charged shots don't do the fire trail from hellfire right?

Either way the long reload would feel terrible.

[warped veldt]

unless the enemy is ranged there isnt much of a reason to freeze them from super far away, and almost all of the ranged enemies either die or are brought near death through 1 temp shock

[still geode]

the long reload isnt a big deal

[pliant yoke]

No, they don’t, but realistically, do you always need to apply Hellfire trail to your shots?

[still geode]

you get insane ammo efficiency from partial shots

[pliant yoke]

Born Ready is a perk

[still geode]

hellfire massively increases your trail size and fear is op

[pliant yoke]

And even then, the reload isn’t all that terrible

[olive flicker]

I'll think about it if I ever find myself in an ammo crunch with it.

Hasn't happened yet.

[pliant yoke]

Give it a try, see what happens

Anyway

Exothermic Reactor + Cryo = bad

Take Boiler Ray

It’s random still, but at least you don’t unfreeze things you don’t want to unfreeze

Exo works better with CRSPR

[rancid cedar]

just sayin cus your making it sound like autocannon and burning hell are the main ways gunner can kill swarmers when it def isn’t

[frail forge]

Hurricane is a good boi c:

[coral pond]

1/4th charge shot with electric trail kills grunts and web spitters(if your scout isn't taking care of them)

[olive flicker]

I love boiler ray.

[oak pecan]

Do yall think NTP is still a good choice for the EDD, especially with all the dreads?

Or I should use another gunner primary

I was planning on soloing it

But reading this I may go with a team

[coral pond]

It would really only be good for stage 2, dreads would take too long with it

[oak pecan]

Got it

What primary should I use then? Burning hell?

Also guessing I should take lead spray BRT

[coral pond]

I brought leadstorm leadstorm and hellfire, did pretty well. Though i went with a team, not solo

[oak pecan]

Got it

Ill probably run burning hell and lead storm

[olive flicker]

You absolutely need to do some terraforming on stage 2 for it to be manageable, so if you're planning on going gunner then rocky mountain (faster mining) buff will feel great.

Otherwise you're dealing with 3 hit terrain in magma core.

[oak pecan]

Got it, was planning on taking red rock

But will consider that

[olive flicker]

Alternatively you can go with driller.

Also the bulk isn't guaranteed solo. I only saw it once in 2 attempts.

[oak pecan]

What mission would the bulk be on

And any other spawns?

[olive flicker]

Stage 2.

Tons of stingtails as usual.

Stage 2 1 of the mules is on a sharp edge so it's best to dig it down into the pit.

[oak pecan]

Got it

[olive flicker]

But then you need a way out of the pit or you're dead.

Digging the refuel down will give you a bunch of space instead of a tiny cliff.

[sharp tundra]

Use damage primary. Crowd control secondary. Preferably lsls hellfire

[oak pecan]

Got through stage 1 with no hitch

Got onto stage 2

Repaired the mule in the drop pod room

The mini-swarm consisted of 2 stingtails

Time to continue on

Ok yeah stage 2 is absolute BS

Im not continuing

Im getting a team to deal with this BS stage

Got stuck in that pit with a mini wave consisting of
1: Oppressor
2: Stingtails
1-2 (I didnt count): Septic Spreaders
A lot of: Grunts

[olive flicker]

I fought most of stage 2 in the open area.

Every mini swarm from the mules etc

[oak pecan]

I just got caught in a bad spot

I was trying to knock the mule into the pit and I got stuck with the wave

They took 2 revives off me and I just said “fuck it, im getting a team”

[eager shell]

Yeah a team is mandatory

I won this morning with a freind after about 5 failures last night

Honestly, the only unbearable aspect of it was the bulks

[tiny portal]

People keep leaving and its ruining the mission

Real annoying

[eager shell]

We lost our first attempt because we had one spawn before defense started

[olive flicker]

Nah, solo-able.

[eager shell]

Then 2 while we were defending

[oak pecan]

My god I hate low 02

[olive flicker]

You don't get as many or any bulks solo.

[coral pond]

The low 02 stage isn't that bad, just need 1 resupply in each dread room and you're fine(if team. Don't really need one if you're solo)

[eager shell]

Probably so, base dreads and twins are easy af solo

But getting a bulk while defending solo is an instant loss

I had it happen before and I don't want to put my mission success on the roll of the director

[olive flicker]

Bulks are really rare solo so your odds are good.

Director doesn't have enough credits typically.

[eager shell]

Maybe

Look man i had a really good edd going one time and it happened

So now I'm scared

Because there's really nothing you can do

[olive flicker]

Yea salvage point defense is brutal solo.

[eager shell]

And that bulk in particular spawned on top of me

Like I didn't even know it was there before I saw the particles

Pretty confident it spawned in the circle around the pod

[olive flicker]

If one spawns during uplink on this week's you're practically always losing.

Slightly better odds with refuel.

[eager shell]

My first run was good actually

I was cyro driller and my friend was gunner

We got one spawn right before we started defendimg

[olive flicker]

But it rarely happens solo so that's nice.

[eager shell]

Then one showed up during the refuel

So he went to distract it

Then another spawned from the OTHER side of the cave

The time we actually won this morning I remember drilling a giant tunnel to hide in if bulks come

But none did

It was literally just the bulks that were the issue

The rest was hard but not undoable

[olive flicker]

If you have a gunner you can always shield push.

[frail forge]

Gunner's Leadburster can kill bulks easily

Obligatory Volatile Rounds too

[eager shell]

Yeah...against my advice bro took incendiary

[frail forge]

Idk what stuff your friend had

[eager shell]

He listened to me after.

[olive flicker]

You're not running vb this edd because stage 3 swarm.

[frail forge]

If they have Volatile Rounds, they can 4-5 shot a bulk detonator

[eager shell]

He doesn't even have that

[frail forge]

Otherwise oof

[eager shell]

We had the one under control

The other one killed us

[frail forge]

Such is life

[eager shell]

Honestly I wouldn't want him to run volatile even if he had it

[frail forge]

Reminds me of a Haz 5 where my engi friend got killed because a Bulk detonator tunnel'd up from under him

[olive flicker]

Oh yea if you solo you have to cover the swarmageddon too.

[eager shell]

I was using cyro+ fire is useless for dread

[eager shell]

Freeze aura...what swarmers?

[frail forge]

Indeed, a shame that Thermal Shock is bad

Otherwise cryo + fire could have had a combo

[eager shell]

It's good for grunt hordes

But like

[olive flicker]

It's pretty bad with cryo.

[eager shell]

Everything is good against a horde of frozen grunts

[olive flicker]

Fine with fire.

[eager shell]

There were several moments he threw an incendiary into a swarm preventing me from freezing 💀

[frail forge]

Such is life, honestly in my EDD the stingtails were the biggest bitch

[eager shell]

He also never warns me...thank God for fire resistance

[olive flicker]

I was referring to temp shock.

[frail forge]

The droppod is on an elevated position

[eager shell]

I love him and he's great at the game but my lord he's the most dangerous thing in the cave for me

Then again I full froze him on one of our attempts so 💀

[frail forge]

Friendly Fire is the 3rd highest source of player deaths

Bosco is the lowest 💪

[eager shell]

Im a big solo player

So I'm used to being able to dance wherever I want without worry

[frail forge]

You'll be glad to hear that Bosco only has killed about 2500 players

[eager shell]

But I've had him reduce me to 30% health from full by momentarily standing in front of him

[eager shell]

...how

Does he kill anyone at all?

[frail forge]

Yeah not running Friendly in EDD is very spooky

[frail forge]

Rockets can kill players

[eager shell]

I

Forgot that existed

[oak pecan]

Leadbursters are good against bulks

[frail forge]

But have insanely lower Friendly fire damage still funny

[frail forge]

Rip, seems your friend did too

[eager shell]

The only time I use rockets is on fester fleas

[eager shell]

We got better about it

[frail forge]

Rockets on Bosco are also a great way to handle hordes efficiently

[eager shell]

I became more aware of what he was doing and he reminded me that the cyro cannon hurts a lot more than I think it does

[frail forge]

You can also make Bosco fire cryo rockets but they're eh

[eager shell]

I play almost exclusively solo driller or engi

[frail forge]

Lol yeah iirc a cryo shot without Friendly can instant break shields

[frail forge]

But horde clear without using ammo 💪

[eager shell]

It just feels so Janky to ping to have him kill 3 grunts when I can kill 6 with one sludge shot or one turret whip

And I find there's usually like a 2 second delay while he lines up his shot or whatever

[frail forge]

Rockets can also do Fear if you want some crowd control

[eager shell]

I run sludge pump most of the time

[olive flicker]

I really like em to shut down annoying stuff, like stingtails.

[frail forge]

Ah I just like to learn about Bosco so I know what tools I got

[eager shell]

I enjoy dancing around my sludge and kiting everything into it

[frail forge]

Never hurts to know your tools 💪

[eager shell]

Yeah

Maybe I should try using it more

[frail forge]

Same, electric rounds + fear rockets = stingtail sad

[eager shell]

It could help with groups clumped on sludge puddles

[olive flicker]

It freezes a lot of stuff in 1 shot.

[frail forge]

If you're particularly desperate, you can always use the rockets to freeze

Just watch your own freeze

The AOE gets buffed pretty noticeably

[eager shell]

I feel like I'd have to intentionally try to get hit by bosco for it to happen

[frail forge]

Perhaps but Bosco does have 2500 player kills as of 2022 for a reason

[eager shell]

💀

I still can't believe that

[frail forge]

Ikr, I think the only way for Bosco to even kill a player is rockets

But they have something stupid like 50% friendly fire modifier

[eager shell]

Most certainly

[frail forge]

So they do basically nothing

[eager shell]

I know he's never shot me

And we have never touched in our lives

Molly has probably killed 5 times bosco

[frail forge]

Indeed, but yeah Bosco is a reliable tool with some good rockets, especially with cryo as Driller

As for your friend, Friendly + Iron Will time

[eager shell]

I use the hell out of bosco for everything

Just never the rockets

[eager shell]

Yeah we both had iron will

[frail forge]

Bulk Detonators get dumpstered by Leadbursters (iirc the fastest kill time)

[eager shell]

Which we didn't even use on our success attempt

[eager shell]

Yeah I told him that and he changed

[frail forge]

Iron Will + Vampire if you want to work around the "dying after 12 seconds" thing

Ah ok

[eager shell]

I had vamp (obviously), he had sweet tooth

[frail forge]

Gunner Friend should probably use Friendly as Lead Burster fires roughly like 400 bullets and they can hit for 50 damage each

[eager shell]

He gets so jealous when I heal from 20% to full off a swarm on haz 4

[azure hawk]

Did the elite with whiplash shotgun and hyperpropellent

[eager shell]

Honestly

[azure hawk]

Thank God hyperpropellent erase the stingtails

[frail forge]

Lol yeah Driller + Vampire is so good

[eager shell]

He never hurt me with it

[frail forge]

Indeed :c

[eager shell]

Only ever with the incendiary

He's hurt himself with it though

[frail forge]

Then he needs to position his leadbursters better UwU

[eager shell]

Fr

I'm never gonna stay at my peak if I know the ground in front of me isn't going to ignite randomly

[frail forge]

Btw in Stage 2 of the EDD, watch out at the Drop pod stage as it's on an elevated area

Ez stingtail wipes

[eager shell]

It depended in my experience

Regardless I just dug it down to the floor

When it was elevated

[frail forge]

Fucking stingtails + red goo throwers on a salvage mission

Oh right Driller

Nice thinking c:

[eager shell]

Honestly as much shit as I say we are a great team

We handled it

Bitched about stingtail moments sometimes

But we were alright

[frail forge]

We just cheesed it with Tunnel Rat + Gunner Zipline buff

[eager shell]

It was just...the two bulks

[frail forge]

85% fall damage resist 💪

[eager shell]

There was nothing we could do

And that tanked our morale

[frail forge]

Yeah bulk detonators are an issue without some slow

[young sand]

do error cubes have any purpose or no?

[eager shell]

Not yet

[frail forge]

Hopefully your gunner friend has Neurotoxin to slow them or something

[frail forge]

4k xp when turned in

[young sand]

yet?

[eager shell]

I recommend neurotoxin bulldog but he was set on his burst fire overclock

It worked out

[frail forge]

Ah BRT is pretty reliable

[eager shell]

So whatever

We got lucky on stage 2 with 0 bulks

So we won

[eager shell]

People suspect they may have a future purpose since the shop tracks how many you own

[frail forge]

Truly the solution to any issue 💪

"Pray it doesn't appear"

[eager shell]

It's conspiracy tho

[frail forge]

With 100 Error cubes we can summon Karl

[eager shell]

We actually had a plan that time

[young sand]

warfare is based on deception
-sun tzu

[eager shell]

I built a long ass tunnel

[young sand]

aint no way

frfr

[eager shell]

If 2 spawned again

[eager shell]

Then this

[frail forge]

Long tunnel + 4 leadbursters

[solid walrus]

Gosh this edd was stupidly hard untill we took 4 engis kek

[eager shell]

That was basically the idea, yeah

[frail forge]

Smh having a plan, Smart Stout can't get you drunk fast enough though 😔

[frail forge]

4 breach cutters vs the glyphid's squishiest grunt

[young sand]

i found my 3rd error cube today

[frail forge]

Nice c:

They're a great xp boost

[knotty otter]

Drak-25 any good? how mod

[junior perch]

where do I go to see what the three missions are for a deep dive?

[oak pecan]

Got the EDD done with a team

[random leaf]

you just have to be fast, a lot of the time the teams I was with just stood around waiting for a 4th "r"

[knotty otter]

how does one mod the X-80?

[sharp tundra]

No

[sharp tundra]

What’s that

[sharp tundra]

Check the pinned messages

[junior cove]

The crossbow

[mellow cradle]

do you have overclocks for either of these weapons?

[knotty otter]

the drak25 is shit imma ignore it

What overclock combos are on the M1K?

[mellow cradle]

it has 2 decent OC's

[mellow cradle]

pretty much any OC is good on the m1k, since m1k in of itself is good

maybe except super cooling chamber, that one is specialized

hipster serves a slightly diffent purpose as well

[knotty otter]

how to mod for each worth using OC?

[mellow cradle]

which OC?

[knotty otter]

M1K

[mellow cradle]

which OC for the m1k?
OC = overclock

[knotty otter]

you said most are good
which are the best and how does one mod for em?

[mellow cradle]

you could for example go 2311(1 or 2) active stability system
the same mods also work for hoverclock and minimal clips
or 2321(1 or 2) electrocuting focus shots
if you want to dump magazines into heavy targets, then you could go 23223 hipster
for elimination, 21122 super cooling is going to shine

@knotty otter there, I listed them all

[knotty otter]

graci

[bitter raft]

im making an elimation scout build with the double barrel atm
its 2 2 3 2 3 with double barrel as the oc
can i improve it?

[mellow cradle]

double barrel?

you didn't take the shockwave dmg mod

and you absolutely should

also, most of your damage comes from the shockwave, so I would take both ammo mods instead of improving the damage of the bullets

[turbid wasp]

elite deep dive more like elite ping pong (so many stingtails aaargh)

[mossy matrix]

I just finished my second deep dive ever and I got a fucking Fatboy

[wraith shard]

[mossy matrix]

And it was an amazing run too

[wraith shard]

I can't wait to promote so I can do deep dives

I want the special powder so bad

[mossy matrix]

Minerals besides gold and nitra in deep dives is almost unseen

So just focus on doing your objectives there

[wraith shard]

Okay

And get all nitra right?

[mossy matrix]

Yeah, you'll need as much as you can carry

You don't regain health or ammo upon completion of a mission

[wraith shard]

Yeah

[sharp tundra]

Only if ur doing good. Otherwise just hurry to next mission.

[wraith shard]

Okay

[barren panther]

we need good scout for deep dive

[spiral badge]

“Good”
“Scout”

[wraith shard]

Hey I'm a scout main, I'm just, not good yet

[placid musk]

in my experience, the drak's been the most newbie-friendly gun

for some odd reason people say they perform better with it over the m1k

and I'd recommend the other 2 weapons for anyone that's still uncomfortable with aim

[timid basalt]

I think the drak is really good as a weapon in general, no matter how you mod it. It has insane burst potential

[void bridge]

holy crap wtf is stage 2 of the EDD

[timid basalt]

Oh no, I’m about to do it, is it really that bad

[void bridge]

just

don't bother LOL

it's actually horrendous

1st stage is pretty easy tbh

[timid basalt]

What’s the missions

[void bridge]

but 2nd stage is like a mix of steroids and cocaine

[void bridge]

1st is dreadnought

with low 02

which isn't too bad

but salvage with regenerative bugs

that's already annoying

[timid basalt]

Salvage with regen isn’t super bad

[void bridge]

but the stingtails

THE STINGTAILS

they drive me crazy

also the terrain is just bad

[timid basalt]

I’m gonna try it lol

Tbh I’m also really tempted to learn how to mod DRG just to remove stingtails

Also low o2 dreadnaughts sounds awful anyways

[void bridge]

it's not too bad

[humble harbor]

you'll change your mind

[void bridge]

^^^^

[humble harbor]

also watch out for bulks in the pool

[void bridge]

yea we also got 2 bulks during 2nd mission

but they weren't too bad

[humble harbor]

i did it as solo gunner, the worst thing that could've happened was a bulk spawning during uplink

luckily i just had a bulk chase me ehile i was dodging a spitballer i didnt see on the zipline to the pod

[timid basalt]

I tried it, low o2 dreadnaught was awful

Terrain sucks LOL

[hoary palm]

friends and I did our first deep dive, holy that was sketchy at times

[still anvil]

The think that annoyed me the most in map 2 is the spreaders

Mf shooting u from a place u can't even see them

[tacit jungle]

a job for your scoutbro to chase them down

[bitter raft]

what oc should i use

[sharp tundra]

Guys the elite deep dive rlly wasn’t that

Bad

[mellow cradle]

double barrel is good, I just got the notion that you built it like jumbo shells lol

use double barrel, but take both ammo mods, and tye shockwave mod

[wicked cloud]

I think it would be neat to have like free roam missions where it's just a massive cave system where there is no real goal, just mine what you need

[modern wagon]

This and possibly to build small base here 🙂

[wicked cloud]

Oo base building, where you are mining for yourself but also upgrading your base and equipment

[late snow]

Does anyone want to do a epp with me I need help

[wintry sparrow]

im about to do my first ever deep dive!

[late snow]

Want to do it anyway

[tiny portal]

You'd think this would be the best in theory, however, when testing it out, you'll find that you barely miss the one shot ignite every time with the fire mod in t5 (on praets and guards etc). If you take the dmg mod in tier 1 (in exchange for 4 ammo) you will get the ignite on enemies every time

[knotty otter]

its just scorpions
kill those and its a breeze

[tiny portal]

Are you fucking kidding me

I spent more than an hour on EDD to get 'lost connection' halfway EDD 3

Thats so fucking horrible

Rejoining should be way faster and easier

[ancient cove]

1. After you get disconnected/crashed, go to the DD/EDD Terminal and find the lobby you were in before (it will be grayed out)
2. Mouse Right-Click on the lobby to open the Steam Profile of the Host.
3. If Host's profile isn't private/invisible etc. there should be a green "Join" button
4. Use the Join button to rejoin the lobby.
   If host's profile is private, you can try to add him as friend.
   Pro Tip: Before joining a lobby for the first time, you can first right-click on it. That way, you don't have to remember which lobby you were in, and if something happens, you already have the host's Steam profile open.

[late snow]

The new deep dive is so hard

[tiny portal]

Yes yes I know but host was private and not responding

And anotehr guy crashed too he couldnt rejoin either

Rejoining is still horrible

Should be immediately always after dcing

[neat crater]

whenj i thought people with500+ level will be decent on the deep dive boy oh boy.

[mellow cradle]

on the regular dive?

[neat crater]

the other one

[mellow cradle]

ah, yeah, this week's EDD second stage terrains is fucked

I did it first try, but with friends on the vc

even then it was tough

[neat crater]

nice god bless free carries or common sense players

[frail forge]

DRG is one of those weird games where experience =\=skill

[mellow cradle]

or, you know, they could've attained these levels playing haz 3 or 4

[frail forge]

Almost always better to do missions alone

[frail forge]

Doesn't mean they're not shit still

Such is life

[neat crater]

could be

[mellow cradle]

I'm saying that is why they are shit

lol

[neat crater]

and i thougth ehre weill eb differnet becaue differnet game that isnt hyper hard like any other

i was so wrong

things are still the same every sadly

[frail forge]

Ah my bad, sorry for misunderstanding :c

[frail forge]

Indeed, you can always take some cracked OC build with Bosco

Bosco is a very reliable bot

Helped a ton in the EDD stage 2 by letting me make kill zones while he gets all the legs

[mellow cradle]

make sure to prepare the terrain properly before the uplink and fuel cells

[frail forge]

^

[mellow cradle]

and scream at your teammates to do so

[frail forge]

Drop pod is in a terrible spot for a mission with Stingtails and red goo lobbers

If you're gunner or scout though, I hope you get lucky on spawns then :p

[junior pendant]

I accidentally took the wrong load out and died 34 times, dude was not happy with me, lol

[zenith ember]

i would not either if i were him

34 is a really big number for downs

[thick iris]

Quick Question, what is the difference between normal deep dives and ELITE deep dives?

[coral pond]

Haz level

[mellow cradle]

normal deep dive stages are on hazard level 3, 3.5, 3.5, and two of theses stages will have a mutator
EDD stages go haz 4.5, 5, 5.5, and there are either 2 or 3 mutators for theses stages (this week has 3)

[frail forge]

"Low O2 + dreadnought"

[thick iris]

Ah, I figured it was probably the haz level

[hoary palm]

once someone has matrix cores, is there a way to know what regular missions have the trilitie missions/things in them to be able to infuse the matrix cores?

or is it totally random

[mellow cradle]

https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Machine_Events#Spawning

tldr longer missions have a higher chance to spawn them

[hoary palm]

understood, thanks!

[west merlin]

In other words just do whatever missions you want to do or for assignments/performance pass/whatever

[olive flicker]

Yea, you find enough spawns doing other stuff to deplete your blanks.

[trim glacier]

I don't know if anyone has said this before, but it feels like every damn deep dive is filled with alien eggs. LIke this EDD has eggs on all 3 and the reg DD has 2, and for the past few weeks it felt the same way. Is there a reason for this?

[brisk spear]

just rng

[mellow cradle]

eggs, alien eggs team, management wants them, don't ask why

[olive flicker]

It feels like there are a lot of eggs and mules because they can spawn as primary and secondary objectives.

We had mule week sometime back.

[coral pond]

There was also a black box week, where all of the second primary objective of an edd(and i think the dd too?) was a black box

[west merlin]

There just aren't that many secondary objectives since Point Extraction, Drilldozer, On-Site Refining and Industrial Sabotage don't have secondary versions.

Maybe they should add a hacking objective and a Rockpox contagion spike as secondary objectives

[full saddle]

its truly strange to me that there is no rockpox secondary

[wraith shard]

hello

new to deepdives

just did my first one

if i do another one again in the same day will i get new rewards?

[zenith ember]

No for matrix cores, only exp and gold(not recommended)

[wraith shard]

what about overclocks?

im mainly doing it for the overclocks

[zenith ember]

For matrix cores/overclock, either wait until the next weekly reset, clear the elite deep dive(counts as separate set of rewards), or promote dwarves

Reset time is on the pins according to your local machine

[wraith shard]

ahhhh damn. i should look up how to beat elite deep dives before i get my ass kicked

[zenith ember]

Im assuming you already did the weekly assignment right

Thats another set of cores

[wraith shard]

i didnt

but i dont want cores i want overclocks

i mean i want both but i want to unlock overclocks

[zenith ember]

Yeah they always give a set(1st - blank matrix, 2nd - overclock, 3 - cosmetic)

What i mean is that the assignment is weekly too, and it also gives you an overclock + blank core

[wraith shard]

ill do that as well i guess

[olive flicker]

You got the order wrong.

[zenith ember]

And the reset is happening in 2 days, would recommend you to clear that first before trying edd

[olive flicker]

It's blank - weapon - cosmetic.

[zenith ember]

^ is right, wrong order on mine

If you are attempting the edd anytime try to finish stage 2 at least

Since the cosmetic isnt your goal atm

[wraith shard]

Why don’t people run iron will in EDD? It’s no argument that it’s the best perk

[zenith ember]

preferences

can also be argued that iw isnt necessary 100% of the time or with a good team

[sharp tundra]

Dash is the best perk.

[frail forge]

Best perk is Glyphid Beastmaster

Another "dwarf" joins the team

Tbh Regenerative Bugs + Beastmaster is pretty comfy though

[olive flicker]

If I don't ever die I never need it

[ancient cove]

stop the cap 😂

[quasi sleet]

it's definitely the best for the first person who has it in a team of 4, but if the other 3 people have it then you absolutely have better options than a 4th IW

[coral pond]

I've definitely had missions where i didn't need iron will cause i didn't go down, but it's such an inconsistency to happen that i always have it on just in case

[ancient cove]

You can't have enough IWs. When stuff hits the fan and you're in a bad spot, one or two Iron Wills might not be enough.
Countless times I had missions that we survived only thanks two 4 iron wills and some missions were one Iron Will short.
Sure, a lot of missions don't require Iron Will at all, but it's all about worst case, which happens a lot on Hazard 5 and EDDs.

[olive flicker]

If you don't run IW your brain will automatically play more carefully and you will need it less

[ancient cove]

You can't trust randoms to do it

[shell cosmos]

Just had to abort the deep dive 14 minutes in to switch to scout because the awful cave gen is just hilariously bad to try navigating as engineer

[shell cosmos]

I have lost so many missions on haz 4/5 because I was the only one who ran iron will. I would completely save things with it once, we’d get into another situation where IW would have saved us, and no one else has it.

[ancient cove]

From my experience, the majority of good players, who play on high difficulties use IW. Almost each time we failed a mission, players who had no IW were also pretty bad.
Maybe with a VC premade team you can play without it, but with randoms anyone should run it.
One stupid mistake, you die in the wrong moment and it snowballs to a team wipe.

[shell cosmos]

For me it’s that no other perk saves you from a mission fail like that, and almost no other perk except maybe dash contributes enough to AVOIDING that fail state to make up for it

[quasi sleet]

the fear effect from reviving and the instant revive from field medic competes with IW in terms of saving a mission

[coral pond]

That's why you drop dash on scout to use iw and fm :)

[ancient cove]

👍🏻

[forest bloom]

Guys i just did an normal deep dive with a friend and it was not hard at all, none of us got down at all and i as gunner didn't had to use shield once. So we are pretty pumped up and want to do elite deep dive. How much harder is it?

We don't have any good overclocks btw

[quasi sleet]

basically haz 3 vs haz 5

[shell cosmos]

Elite is MUCH harder, but not impossible if you strategize well.

[ancient cove]

If you don't play at least Hazard 4 regularly, you will have a very hard time doing Elite Deep Dive.

[quasi sleet]

the only difference in the elite version is the hazard level, they are otherwise generated with the same methods

[sharp tundra]

For elite deep dive, 2/3 iw is sufficient

[sharp tundra]

It’s a lot harder. It needs planning

I’d recommend trying it just to test the waters

[frail forge]

This Elite Deep Dive is particularly hard

I hope your team has good anti-dreadnought + good anti-swarm

[wraith shard]

Anyone down to do some EDD?

[late burrow]

Any tip for first timer doing deep dive?

[coral pond]

Ammo, nitra, and health transfer between stages so be mindful in the first 2 missions then you can ball out in the last one

Single use perks like iron will and field medic, as well as bosco revives if you solo, will refresh when moving to the next mission so don't panic about using one if you need in like, the first mission

Normal deep dive is haz 3/3.5/3.5 for mission 1/2/3 respectively

Elite dive is 4.5/5/5.5

[frail forge]

If you're an engineer, turret ammo is restocked after every stage

[late burrow]

Oh lord

[frail forge]

Grab a buff beer from Abyss Bar

It lasts all 3 nissions

Tunnel Rat is bugged and gives 60% fall damage resist

[late burrow]

Im gonna do driller's deep dive soon and im not very certain abt whats gonna happen so i figured maybe i can get some clue here

Awesome

[coral pond]

Driller's drill fuel does too, and either gunner's shields or ziplines idk which exactly

[frail forge]

The normal deep dive isn't too bad. I did it solo and don't remember anything too bad

[coral pond]

You can check the pinned messages in this channel to know what to expect as far as objectives go

[late burrow]

Do u guys have any recommended perks or build for drillers

[frail forge]

Oh interesting to know

[late burrow]

On deepdive

[coral pond]

Oh, also, there are no minerals or event spawns in deep dives(machine event, lost pack, cargo crate, etc...) so just do the objectives and get out

[frail forge]

I have a lvl 1 driller so I legit know nothing about Driller

But I know Vampire + Iron Will is a good combo if you're ok with melee

[late burrow]

I better not wander too much then ☠️☠️

[late burrow]

I love playing melee this sounds good

[coral pond]

For this normal deep dive, honestly a sticky flames driller would do fine. Only got the twins to care about when it comes to single target

[frail forge]

Be aware you cannot rejoin or join mid-progress deep dives so if you're bringing friends pray they stay

[coral pond]

There are ways to get around that

[frail forge]

I'm not aware of any so such is life for me 😔

[late burrow]

Me and my friends with miserably horrible internet are going to love this deep dive

[frail forge]

Rock and stone miner 💪

[late burrow]

Better rock and roll with it

[frail forge]

I didn't "complete" any Elite deep dives until my 3rd because I kept disconnecting

Stage 1 -> stage 2 -> crash 💪

[late burrow]

Awh hell nahh thats probably gonna happen to me too

[frail forge]

The main rewards are given by stage

So as long as you're around for the end of a stage, you're good

I only did 2 stages but I got 2 cores which were all I wanted anyways

[late burrow]

Yoooo

That sounds good ngl

[frail forge]

Indeed, so it's not that bad unless you want the cosmetic core too

[sharp tundra]

Yeah that’s what I do with the hardest ones

[late badger]

Any tips for deep dives as I played deep rock when it was beta and I'm not familiar with the newer modes

[sharp tundra]

@shadow tundra ok you were right

Oops wrong chat

[coral pond]

@late badger

[late badger]

Very nice

[wise ridge]

#drg-gallery message
funny bulks going brrr when we were holding onto dear lives in salvage with just gunner field to protect, cos biozone salvage wasnt really suited for platform blocking or bunkering. ig the line of sight was alright, the only good side

[coral pond]

Man this week's normal deep dive is so forgettable compared to the elite that i forgot it was in the biozone

[orchid plover]

does anyone know the current elite deep dive missions and modifiers??

[tiny dagger]

i completed this weeks' edd with the most random godly team ever

they somehow made the double dreadnought missions easy

[mellow cradle]

pins

[unreal kraken]

MMMM MMMPH MMH

[austere dragon]

Информативно, огнеметчик....

[coral pond]

The double dreads are the easiest part about this dive though

[pearl sundial]

Doing the weekly deep dive for the first time without any knowledge before hand. How screwed am I?

[wise cosmos]

Depends, what deep dive

[pearl sundial]

dense biozone one

[wise cosmos]

Ok which one the left or right one

[pearl sundial]

what

do you mean in the menu for selecting them

[orchid plover]

they meant normal deep dive

[orchid plover]

play with randoms

[wise cosmos]

You are going to be vertically challenged a lot

But it isnt that bad

[median trench]

New to the game, for elite deep dives do I NEED overclocks if i'm with a team? Or anything I should be mindful of when doing elite deep dives?

[zenith ember]

1- no, only requirement to attempt edd is to use a promoted dwarf (but will greatly help with some OCs)
2- same as any matches, your role, team, position relative to swarm etc. Prob treat edd somewhat harder than Haz 5

[cobalt forge]

3rd time failed this EDD

I give up

[modest yacht]

this EDD is impossible

that stage 2

[bitter cipher]

Certain overclocks are very very good. You can absolutely win without them but when doing EDDs every advantage you can get will benefit you greatly

[gleaming falcon]

especially this one jesus

[thick sapphire]

stingtails and spreaders