#deep-dive-discussion

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cunning pond
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Another reason not to do the EDD this week.

full saddle
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my prayers for shield disruption have gone unanswered...

cunning pond
karmic sundial
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yeah but its twins

ivory marten
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OH LORD IN HEAVEN HELP ME.

karmic sundial
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true

ivory marten
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There was a bulk det and some grabbers.

cunning pond
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Oh that just reminded me.
Since Derp is dying in DRG again that must mean his game is working now

ivory marten
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Yeh.

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:D

cunning pond
full saddle
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yay!

dusk pier
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Magma core again? Sheesh. Like it's already not hot enough with summer

ancient cove
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A lot of eggs again

naive tendon
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what does 50:22 mean at the bottom of dd?

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average completion time?

ancient cove
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Your best time for the DD

naive tendon
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ah alr

hollow citrus
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the DD cave this week is ass

barren shale
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the first edd caves are ass

stray bane
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where are they located

karmic sundial
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Edd is magma core

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Dd is dense bio

solid widget
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Recently realized that RJ250 isn’t as free on haz 5 if you go contact damage

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On haz 5 it rips shield and a bit of health so might need to sacrifice damage to boost utility

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Debating if I like rocket jumping enough to give up the potential praetorian clearing

wraith shard
solid widget
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Magma zone doo doo in general

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The map decides you burn because it felt like it

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Keeps you on your toes at least

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We had to balance out his prayers with our own L ratio on us

nocturne tiger
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a good driller build for this week edd?

barren shale
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blistering will prolly be good

mystic breach
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Do you... get any reward for the first Promotion?

pliant yoke
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And Breach the Core gives you... like 6 infused matrix cores in total? (3 cosmetic, 3 weapon)

solid widget
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If I remember correctly they’re free overclocks just gotta hit the build button

hardy grove
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Completed the edd with some randos in a little over an hour. Resource management was tricky all dive. Nitra seemed scarce for all three maps. We had no more resupplies for the very last dreadnaught fight and pickaxe'd our way to the drop pod after we beat the twins. If I had to do it again I'd take some expanded ammo for my primary. I feel like we hit every nitra vein we found.

tight flax
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how much harder would you say EDD is compared to regular?

mystic breach
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is there like a spreadsheet maybe? shows different combinations for Overclocks
cos from what i can tell theres mods and overclocks that compliment eachother
maybe a builds channel?

pliant yoke
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Haz 4 and Haz 5 are reasonably harder than Haz 3

pseudo shell
zenith ember
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DD 3rd stage cave is horrible, thankfully it isnt on edd

mystic breach
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LazyMaybe you say...

pseudo shell
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🤷‍♂️ your call mate. Karl.gg is a build sharing website, can look around on there see what tickles your fancy

mystic breach
pseudo shell
mystic breach
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theres like 400 pages 99% of it is prolly dogshit, wheres the criteria?

pseudo shell
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You sort by what you want, not by rating. Theres "top builds in the last 2 weeks" past that you're SOL. If you dont like the build you change it to suit you, not much to it

mystic breach
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hmm

spiral badge
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Wow fight some dreads, EDD players

pliant yoke
mystic breach
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that defeats the point of build help

pliant yoke
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If I may make a recommendation, there's a video on YT by content creator Waste that is essentially a tier list of weapons on modded content

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but

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It largely overlaps with what is viable on Haz 5, and Waste also provided optimal builds for every weapon in that video (or a few builds, if there are more viable ones)

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If you want a good point of reference, just watch that video

pliant yoke
mystic breach
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experience
avent even promoted yet

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and im going to manipulate my drops bcos im old and dont ave time to grind

pliant yoke
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It's more trouble than it's worth, but that's not for me to undertake, so I will just shut up 💀

mystic breach
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well thats not true... it takes me a minute to change an outcome
but hours upon hours to grind a new one, if we ignore time gates

pliant yoke
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You don't really have to grind them, and if you would rather cheat to get what you want than just enjoy the game, then I'm having serious doubts if DRG is a game you are truly enjoying.

short bloom
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oh crap, O2

short bloom
mystic breach
pliant yoke
# mystic breach its not cheating tho UwU

You are doing something the devs have not intended but can't really do anything against. Do what you want, but I'm ending the cheat discussion here as it's not really the smartest thing to do on this Discord server

spiral badge
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Management still making lots of omelettes. The bacon shuttle must still be late

quasi fog
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in my edd one of the dreadnoughts killed itself with the exploding plants

mystic breach
stray bane
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best area

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but magma Core AGAIN????

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really?

vocal saddle
stray bane
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last 4 edd three have been magma core

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wtf

pliant yoke
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Magma Core is fine dderp

vocal saddle
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Karl's build now

pliant yoke
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I play to optimise things

vocal saddle
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thats boring

pliant yoke
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That's a subjective take on the matter

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I like playing as efficiently as possible

tall relic
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How difficult is this EDD?

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Without mission spoilers

sharp tundra
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Well fuck me

sharp tundra
tall relic
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Damn

sharp tundra
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What loadout would y’all recommend

sharp tundra
spiral bluff
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This EDD seems 👀 yaknow?

plush drift
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What biome is the EDD in this week?

spiral bluff
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Magma core again . . . . .

plush drift
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Damn

sharp tundra
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Oh fuck me

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Has it been magma core for the past 4 weeks?

quasi fog
plush drift
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I just saw the missions for the EDD and it looks

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Not fun

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I won’t say any more than that

vocal saddle
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wish me luck

sharp tundra
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Might be worth running cyro cannon and hyper prop for once

livid meadow
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just did EDD solo and i used all my revives in the first and 3rd mission lol

signal sinew
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stage 2 is frickin cursed

sharp tundra
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Stage 2 doesn’t seem too bad

signal sinew
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the elevation is pain

livid meadow
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the stingtails make it a lot harder

vocal saddle
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yea stingtails are awful theres multiple at once and they pull you in different directions

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plus regen bugs

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so you need to kill them or they regen

livid meadow
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also ive never taken this prior to this EDD but i think i got a lot of value out of elemental shield

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swarmageddon would have been such a pain without steeve aswell

vocal saddle
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stingtails killed me

pseudo escarp
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stinktails

sharp tundra
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What loadout for gunner y’all recommend

mellow cradle
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for this week's edd I would go lsls & hellfire or burning hell & lead spray

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jfh/pbm & hellfire is also an option

olive flicker
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lsls hellfire can take on anything you throw at it.

short bloom
stray bane
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at least it isn’t hollow bough

vocal saddle
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yeap stingtails fucking

plush drift
stray bane
plush drift
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The only saving grace of the fungus bogs

sharp tundra
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Fungus bogs is fine except those fucking vents

winged delta
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is this game just about dwarfs mining or is there more plot ima play it anyway but im js wondering

spiral badge
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This game is Minecraft….but with dwarves

winged delta
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is there cross platform

sharp tundra
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Holy fuck why does everyone and their goddamn mother want to be driller for this elite deep dive

mellow cradle
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afraid of swarmer

winged delta
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does anyone wanna ply

pliant yoke
winged delta
pliant yoke
winged delta
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alr

woven anvil
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Gonna give this week's EDD a difficulty rating of 9.5/10. This one is going to take some serious cooperation and coordination, your generic "I don't trust my team/jack of all trades" loadout is not going to work. You're going to need all 4 team members to have loadouts that excel in specific situations because there will be many coming at you. You can't take only swarm clear weapons because you're dealing with two stages with dreadnought primaries. You can't take only high DPS because every mission has 2 eggs as secondary and stage 3 has swarmageddon. You can't take only sustain weapons because there are tons of stingtails and spreaders. Not to mention there are lots of static enemies like spitballers and leeches, and magma core means there will be lots of swarms coming at you from a wall or ceiling. Even with a coordinated team of experts, you will need to stay close and cover eachother's weaknesses throughout the entirety of the run or you will be overrun easily. Thankfully, nitra should not be an issue.

I recommend taking:
Disperser/TCF/Neurotoxin
NTP/Elephant/Leadburster
AISE/Shaped Shells/Cryo
Electric build Stubby/Fatboy/SSG

With capable players using loadouts like this, it should be manageable. Otherwise you're getting ripped to shreds.

Stage 1- Dreadnoughts/Eggs with Low O2. Probably the easiest mission of the three. None of the dreadnought eggs have hiveguards, so stacking residual damage and slowdowns will be very effective and ammo efficient. Probably going to want to fight everything in spawn, including egg swarms.

Stage 2- Uplink (3)/Eggs with Regenerative Bugs. The hardest mission of the three. Will test even the mightiest of groups, with plenty of disruptive enemies that you're going to have to kill outright instead of gradually chipping over time.

Stage 3- Dreadnought/Eggs with swarmageddon. Copy and paste stage 1, but with hundreds of swarmers!

olive flicker
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Ok but what about solo? breather

woven anvil
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Dont bother

mellow cradle
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my guy, disruptive enemies like stingtails and spreaders aren't constant

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and please don't take fatboy and elec stubby to two eliminations

woven anvil
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My engi had 623 elims with it

olive flicker
woven anvil
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Not me i played gunner on it

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i had abt 500

olive flicker
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I usually solo as gunner but I'm very tempted to try driller for this with 4 dreads.

woven anvil
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I can't stop you from tryingrocknstone

frail forge
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4 gunners with NTP nice

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I usually bring minigun with hellfire (mostly because I like fire)

olive flicker
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Tbh with those loadouts it probably is impossible breather

woven anvil
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Not everyone in this thread is super good im just giving advice to people who aren't legendary 3 on how to survive this week's edd

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if you're good enough to do it solo why are you reading and taking tips seriously for a team?

sharp tundra
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The fatboy take is wack

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Ngl

frail forge
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But the advice was questionable at best

sharp tundra
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Fatboy is a direct downgrade

woven anvil
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Then that's fine

frail forge
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Fatboy is a meme vs dreadnoughts

woven anvil
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but it's what worked with my team

sharp tundra
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Neurotoxin. Grenades suck on magma core

woven anvil
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And you're not shooting dreads with it you're tickling them to death with all the residual damage

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from other team members

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Like sludge and neurotoxin

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Or slow them down so they can't really hurt you

sharp tundra
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Yeah

olive flicker
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Sludge is fine, but I would run vim.

woven anvil
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💀

olive flicker
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And wave gun with pimples + explodey for the swarmers.

sharp tundra
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Fatboy is literally worse than stock in nearly every situation

woven anvil
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Obv not if we got through it after the teammates said that bronzes fucked them up the last few times they tried it

olive flicker
woven anvil
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mfw situational weapons are good when the team covers their downsides

sharp tundra
sharp tundra
woven anvil
sharp tundra
woven anvil
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I played gunner and let him double dip a lot

sharp tundra
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Better yet use breech cutter

woven anvil
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Breach cutter when everything is walking down walls and ceilings

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Good idea

sharp tundra
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💀

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Are you a noob?

olive flicker
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Well yes but I can't run c4 on engi.

woven anvil
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it isnt

sharp tundra
full saddle
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attempt 1 with ntp didnt go well for me, i got bored and quit

sharp tundra
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Nah he has to be right bruh

woven anvil
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Let me just walk out of the uplink circle and shoot bugs as they reach the ground with cutter instead of blowing them all up lol

sharp tundra
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Else he won’t get his discord karma points

woven anvil
sharp tundra
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Dumbasss lol

woven anvil
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Didnt i say it's about cooperation and problem solving and using your weapons against situations they are effective against

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Instead of just shoot bug lobotomy style?

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If you can't comprehend basic teamwork you don't deserve my time

sharp tundra
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Ur weapon isn’t effective. That’s the problem u moron

woven anvil
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Blocked dumbass 💀💀🤡

sharp tundra
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💀

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What a ray of sunshine

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Gets criticized for bad takes. Insults everyone and blocks them

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Anyways don’t run fatboy. Running ammo overclocks are always better for crowd control/ clear

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Fatboy has one niche and that’s In industrial sabotage

woven anvil
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Hell yeah.rocknstone

sharp tundra
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Sure. But he’s implying this is the most viable set up

woven anvil
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It is and I know this. It just happened to work in this teamwork setting when engi only needed to use it in situations it was effective.

sharp tundra
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It’s not overall effective cuz lack of ammo. One shot from an ammo built pgl is just as effective as a nuke. And you have more than 3 shots after

woven anvil
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The FATBOY was what's effective in this situation. Breach better for general use.

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Clearing those big wall swarms the sludge pump couldn't reach.

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VIR?

sharp tundra
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I think ur on to something man

woven anvil
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Fair

frail forge
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Fatboy need buff, pls change gunner's minigun projectile into fatboys

sharp tundra
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I literally said same thing and he went Nuh uh. What a child

frail forge
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Give double ammo to the minigun

sharp tundra
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Radiation as a whole needs a buff

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I’d say make it remove all armor and destroy breakable weak points when u fill the bar

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The problem with fatboy is it exxagerates pgl greatest strengths while giving it a crippling downside. Crowd clear with low ammo is simply a terrible combination

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It isn’t even better on higher or lower haz lvls

indigo bolt
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more magma core edd : (

sharp tundra
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Fun to use sure. But it def is worse than the rest of the pgl overclocks

indigo bolt
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hollow bough is my least favorite biome

sharp tundra
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I like magma core except on elim missions

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Tbh

indigo bolt
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it’s just, isn’t this like 3 weeks of magma core for edd?

sharp tundra
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The environmental dmg comes in handy

indigo bolt
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also elim low o2, i’m not looking forward to that

sharp tundra
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Depends on the other missions but I see wym

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The thing is sabo is rlly ez if u have particular loadouts

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Yeah I get you

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Too ez to cheese

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Yeah. Without fire they’re a pain in the ass

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And driller basically can’t deal with snipers

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I do like the hacking pods

olive flicker
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Snipers heat up real quick so range on flamethrower yea.

plush drift
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Probably my least favorite mission type

full saddle
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the stingtails on s2 are so mean 😭

full saddle
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not the most enjoyable deep dive ive ever done, ill admit

tardy radish
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our team went down a collective total of 52 times this EDD

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driller 7 : 13
gunner 10 : 9
engineer 12 : 20
scout 15: 10
(revives : downs)

raven carbon
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The environment is as much of an enemy as the bugs

full saddle
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environment sucks

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annoying enemies

tardy radish
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stage 1 is moderately difficult
stage 2 is living hell
stage 3 is easy as long as you move fast

raven carbon
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Yeah the objectives and warnings aren't that bad

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Magma core makes it all worse

full saddle
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stage 2 is the only real problem

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very possible to just get instakilled by a stingtail

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i got grabbed up the drop pod chute 🤷‍♂️

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yeah i didnt hear it and i just got insta downed

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spreaders were also shooting at me from totally bonkers angles from the floor lmfao

raven carbon
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Stingtails dropped me into the fire many times

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There's so many bugs, hard to spot

tardy radish
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one-shot the stingtails or ur bad

full saddle
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i had 3 on me at one point which was kind of unlucky

raven carbon
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Egg and minimule all spawn tons of bugs

full saddle
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i mean on the uplink

raven carbon
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And swarmageddon stage 3 on top of it

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Stingtails become hard to hear or spot in the chaos

full saddle
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i also got a bulk spawn on s2 which might be a near insta fail if you get it during the uplink

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depending on how it paths

raven carbon
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Yeah got a bulk spawn on S2 same

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But had a good scout who lured it away

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If it explodes near the uplink, even if the team doesn't die, the uplink becomes impossible to defend in a pit

olive flicker
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Does that mean no bosco solo?

full saddle
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for me, my first uplink was in a spot where i doubt id have been able to actually shoot a bulk until it was right on top of me w/o leaving the circle

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just lucky i didnt get one

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got it beforehand

raven carbon
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Just saw the messages above, fat boy would be terrible on this

full saddle
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true solo would be decent enough here bosco wasnt much help for me

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eggs are easy to get to

olive flicker
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Bosco helps a ton shutting down stingtails with cryo.

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Although on magma core it might not be effective.

full saddle
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it still works fine but the only time stingtails kill me is when they dont make noise and i dont know they're there

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so nothing really helps me too much

olive flicker
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Sounds like a fun EDD to try solo for sure, looking forward to it on the weekend.

full saddle
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i actually just didnt have much fun doing it which sucks

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i usually enjoy eeds

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edds*

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dreadnoughts are kind of boring to me and there sure are a lot of dreads

frail forge
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Molly pls hurry up

coral pond
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Low 02 and swarmageddon dstare

olive flicker
frail forge
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Dreadnought with scout is pretty fun with the M1000

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Focus shot 💪

full saddle
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i go vim

sharp tundra
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That deep dive honestly wasn’t too bad

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Hellfire rlly put in work third mission

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Hardest mission was maybe second but overall pretty smooth time besides all the stingtails

frail forge
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Oh good to hear Hellfire does work was worried that the crowd control from autocannon would be better

sharp tundra
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Nah for swarmers always go hellfire

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Yeah I used lsls and hellfire

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I’d recommend some high damage build with more mobility cuz of septic spitters

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So maybe plasma bursters. With hellfire

sharp tundra
sharp tundra
frail forge
frail forge
frail forge
versed dragon
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that edd stage 2 gave me cancer

sharp tundra
karmic sundial
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cant wait to promote my driller and dominate dd with sticky fuel oc

quasi oracle
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Magma core again? What?

tall relic
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Welp I caved and looked at the missions before hand

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I recently did a three dread elim with haunted cave, a korlok, and a corruptor

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So I think I'm decently prepped for stages 1 and 3

foggy haven
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a stingtail just ruined my run

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not happy about it

untold saddle
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The stingtails really make this EDD hard lol

foggy haven
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yea and the modifier is regen bugs as wel

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took me 3 tries to complete the 2nd stage

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im ashamed

olive flicker
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Nah, only thing to be ashamed of is not trying.

quasi oracle
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Doing my good deed I suppose. Gonna run the dd with three greenbeards.

lavish sparrow
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Died in the second mission of edd on my only try for now. Went solo driller with face melter and tranquilizer rounds subata.
First mission pretty easy, used 80 nitra, didn't die once.
Second mission i died 3 times before i could finally kill that mf breeder on the ceiling!!! Really hard to rech while defending from the rest of the bugs + it healed a lot cuz regenerative.
After that, i did the mules + eggs + betc no problem. But during the uplink a stingtail threw me to the bottom of the pit and died (no hover boots), resurrected but couldn't make my way up there again so i lost the mission bc the uplink failed.
Pretty excited to try it again later!!

icy socket
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this edd is pretty fun

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just gotta focus the stingtails

thick sapphire
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okay stage 2 is mean

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so many spreaders, stingtails, and regenerating oppressors

tacit jungle
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EDD is easier with 3 dwarf pals by your side!

thick sapphire
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pbm feels nice but it's hard to both use it effectively and kite

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might switch my coilgun oc to something with better swarm clear

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stingtails make me want to drink tunnel rat

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though i have to say my first two attempts i got teammates who were dropping like flies lol

slow sphinx
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is the current normal deep dive swarm on first egg?

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(its not)

thick sapphire
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i hope edd stage 3 is at least not as much a pain in the arse as stage 2 even if it's tough

polar spoke
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hey does anyone wanna do dd or edd together?

thick sapphire
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only thing is i'm not sure how well a pbm + mole build will do against swarmers

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honestly it works well against stingtails just need to not get yanked to my death

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tbh where stage 2 feels like it goes wrong is when dwarves go down every minute or two and you're just spending the entire mission reviving one another instead of getting the objectives done

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and then nitra becomes scarce

bold maple
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That was one of the more interesting EDDs in a while

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Specifically because of the introduction of stingatails and spreaders

thick sapphire
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stage 1 is actually quite easy

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just care with the o2 modifier

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and mind the leeches

bold maple
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Stage 2 is where its at

thick sapphire
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yeah i failed stage 2 three times so far

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closest i've gotten was an attempt as scout where we died trying to uplink

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as a team with two engis and a driller

bold maple
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I beat EDD on attempt 3

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It takes a tight team, its REALLY hard with greenbeards or people who wanna be carried

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The fuel cells/uplink are killers for greenbeards

thick sapphire
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yeah, I think I can do well enough to not need a carry but I can't carry

arctic plover
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I can do alright, but damn I've had some questionable people today

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Had a dude call in a supply drop for stage 1 JUST for health

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And it was at the end of the 2nd dreadnaught cocoon fight

tropic jackal
earnest geode
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Also the easiest with a bunker.

tall relic
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Thinking of taking gunner instead of driller for this EDD for once

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If it goes well then I'm gonna switch my main

arctic plover
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Stage 2 is aids

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Bulk spawned on uplink defense and took out all but a tiny sliver of land, which got sprayed on by a septic spreader

wise cosmos
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the placement of the battery & satellite are shit

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literally a cliff that enables the buggers to ambush you

arctic plover
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And the fact that septic spreaders, stingtails and bulks make that position even worse

hushed sequoia
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it's worth stepping out of the zone to kill spreaders

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preferably scout does that on his own

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that whole stage 2 terrain was quite bad

wise cosmos
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new mutation: shitty terrain

arctic plover
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It feels like stage 2 was an act of god

wraith shard
arctic plover
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Ew

vocal saddle
spice compass
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holy shit finally did it

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edd complete

wraith otter
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how come i cant join any chats?

spice compass
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what a doozy

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honestly solo was way easier than multiplayer

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failed about 5 times with other dwarves (all on stage 2 btw), did it solo and won first try

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loadout I ran with was rocket barrage hurricane and mole coilgun with leadbursters

vocal saddle
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nice work

spice compass
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coilgun carried me through the dreads, and the crowd control on the hurricane helped with the other bugs+ swarmageddon last stage

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I mainly brought the leadbursters because there's almost always a bulk in stage 2 but this time around he didn't spawn

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they helped a lot with the twins though

raven carbon
plain rock
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Oh man i just had one of the worse experiences with an engie ever it was a edd mf died 33 times and somehow blamed me bc I ironwilled at the same time with gunner once and then he called me a ret*rd and kicked me. Really just makes you wanna avoid EDD for a while after that

coral pond
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don't avoid the edd, that was just a really shitty host. Multiple iron wills at once happens every once in a while, it's no reason to act like he did

plain rock
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Like at least if you are gonna shittalk do it without dying so much ffs

coral crescent
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how bad is the elite deep dive this week

plain rock
tacit jungle
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it doesn't seem too bad, if your team isn't dopey

plain rock
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All with secondary egg hunt

plain rock
vocal saddle
ruby wolf
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looking at the pinned message, it looks annoying.

2 rounds of dreadnaughts and both have the Twins

also stage 1 low oxygen

fringe iris
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is it ok to ask a newbie deep dive question here or would it be better to do it at the DRG chat?

ruby wolf
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I don't see a problem with saying it here, personally

fringe iris
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just wondering which class is better for a 1st deep dive, i have all 4 dwarves with promotions and usually run a explosive rounds lok1 with BC, but i also have neurotoxin gunner, my friends have done several deep dives but i dont want to be a dead weight

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usually get either 1st or 2nd place in kills at haz 3 and 4 missions but ive noticed im pretty ammo starved always as engie and im not very sure about running gunner

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any recomendations are appreciated, thanks

tall relic
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This is probably a hot take but neurotoxin gunner usually isn't the way to go if you have a full team imo

earnest geode
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Well, if it's normal deep dive, then take whatever class you want.

tall relic
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It's extremely good at clearing swarms, but so is driller

ruby wolf
earnest geode
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DDs are pretty simple.

tall relic
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Better to build gunner for single target damage imo

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Sounds like you're most familiar with engi, and your build seems solid

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So I'd go with that

earnest geode
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EDDs, well, I'd build for this specific week. For example, picking Scout and cryo nade cuz mactera swarm.

fringe iris
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i see

tall relic
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And yeah if you can do haz 4 then you'll have no trouble with regular deep dives

fringe iris
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i read in some reddit posts taht neurotin gunner is DD on training wheels hehee

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thats why i focused on that OC

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specially since my engie is pretty ammo starved

tall relic
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It's great standalone but I find it kinda unnecessary if you have a good driller

fringe iris
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and that supposed to be ammo efficient (neuro gunner i mean)

earnest geode
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If you have NTP gunner on DDs, you won't just be a dead weight, you're just gonna stand there yawning cuz no bugs can even get close.

fringe iris
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lol

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hopefully

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thanks for feedback, RnS

ruby wolf
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but the NTP part by itself can still be sorta helpful

earnest geode
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Oh I just automatically assume that if you mention NTP gunner, you'll have fear.

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If they don't, well, they don't exist in my life.

ruby wolf
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Hmm, i suppose that's fair.

that won't work with new players tho engi

earnest geode
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Man now I'm remembering my 1 DD with 2 greenbeards, both of 'em died, I'm gunner, no ammo on my primary, so I just run circle around the drop pod shooting my hellfire coilgun.

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And that took care of a whole swarm phase.

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Crazy ass overclock, that thing is.

tall relic
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I tried hellfire recently and tbh I think I prefer magic bullets neurotoxin bulldog for swarm clear

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It's a lot more versatile and you can use it right on the spot

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Feels like by the time I finish charging up a shot, my teammates already killed half the bugs I was aiming at

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I also avoid running fire on anything since it can screw up cryo drillers

woeful niche
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that’s a shame considering fire is easily the strongest effect in the game

woeful niche
spiral badge
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Bugs don’t like to burn it turns out

tall relic
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Cryo is more valuable imo. Once you freeze most enemies they're practically guaranteed to die, and they're usually easy to freeze

woeful niche
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cryo doesn’t work well on everything and doesn’t combo well with some weapons

tall relic
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I've had several instances of a shard diffractor engi shooting at an oppressor or dread that I was trying to freeze and its made me resent the effect a little, even though thats prob super unreasonable

woeful niche
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in fact it doesn’t combo with the 2 highest dps weapons in the game

tall relic
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Only enemies it's really bad against are bulk dets and robots, and I guess mactera to an extent

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Super good against stingtails

unique ore
tall relic
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For like a quarter of damage

woeful niche
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it’s a good effect don’t get me wrong. It’s just that flames is uncontested at swarm clear and cryo isn’t always even that great dmg compared to a weakpoint dmg weapon like exec or ai

unique ore
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not damage-wise, preventing the explosion for drilldozer or salvage

tall relic
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It def has weaknesses but I think those weaknesses can be accounted for by other classes

tall relic
woeful niche
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not to mention that the fact cryo and flames fight each other usually means ppl will default to fire builds because it’s just a much more common status effect, and so many of the best ocs in the game have or use fire

tall relic
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Yeah that's been my biggest annoyance with using cryo for sure

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It's part of the reason I'm thinking of switching my main from driller to gunner

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I don't enjoy crspr or sludge pump anywhere near as much as cryo

woeful niche
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just use pump like mr and stop giving af about temp shock

unique ore
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that just depends on how good your teammates are, good teammates know to not shoot at bugs that are getting frozen with their fire weapon and instead wait for them to get frozen

ruby wolf
tall relic
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They take ages to freeze tho

ruby wolf
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yea ik

vocal saddle
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aight im ready to try again

unique ore
woeful niche
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naw

tall relic
woeful niche
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it’s like nexus

tall relic
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Tbh tho I haven't given sludge pump that fair of a chance

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I might go back to it eventually but I'm having a ton of fun with gunner right now

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So I think I want to ride that wave

woeful niche
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what do u usually run on gunner

tall relic
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32122 lead storm leadstorm with 13212 magic bullets bulldog, lead bursters as my grenade

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Focusing more on single target and basically trying to compensate for drillers weaknesses

placid musk
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magic bullets LSLS is peak gunner

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hellfire gets boring

fossil goblet
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fuckin elite dive

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man

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stage one a pain

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failed on stage two on powering up

signal sinew
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I believe you folks when you say that magic bullets is good swarm clear but why do I never see it go off

foggy haven
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what do yall scouts run for your draks?

hushed sequoia
signal sinew
glacial pilot
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guys

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i tried a elite deep dive

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i did it solo

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i cried

signal sinew
vocal saddle
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finally did it with randoweisser holy shit

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pure pain

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shittest weapons wtf

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but we had 3 people with iron wills so we could clutch

placid musk
signal sinew
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tbf, NTP being bananas is probably fair compensation for being piss poor at speedrunning

placid musk
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imagine a speedrun with gunner

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jokes aside people do usually run scout + driller for speedruns

earnest geode
runic relic
slow lava
mellow cradle
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same, except I run less heat per shot in the first tier

foggy haven
slow lava
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it used to be my main gun with sxout for some reason

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but recently ive been using the gk2

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dont remember the build off the top of my head

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ive just never liekd the m1000 sadly

mellow cradle
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I run gk2 with 21212 AI stability engine

mellow cradle
slow lava
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istg i have 4 overclocks for drak

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those are the only scout overclocks i have

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then like a bunch for gunner

foggy haven
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ngl, whatever floats yalls boats

slow lava
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istg in so unlucky w overclocks rn

slow lava
foggy haven
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ive used ONLY m1k for a year

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not good for the scouts health

slow lava
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😭

solemn hollow
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sheesh

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dont forget your gunner this week i guess

tawdry mesa
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hey, any tips on how to ease through the dreadnoughts?

pliant yoke
slow lava
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imo*

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for my scout for elite deep dive im running deepcore sawed off and freeze nade

tawdry mesa
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what about zhurkov's with exploding reload and snowball drilla?

arctic plover
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Stage 2 for this edd feels like a punishment from god

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Everything about it is horrible

solemn hollow
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i was going reasonably well solo

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and then a stingtail yeeted me to the bottom of the cave....75% through the satellite uplink....as a gunner

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been awhile since i've failed one 😆

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trying again as engineer i guess

runic relic
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I dug a little line of sight hole into the walls by those objectives to los stingtails, worked wonders for gunner

solemn hollow
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lol it's all happening this time

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betsy, naedocyte breeder, hoarder, bulk

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didnt get any of that on my first attempt

plucky anvil
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edd stage 2 this week is making me yank my hair out

young sand
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i would litterally sell my special powder for an infinite supply of magnite

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shit always runs out

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somehow

alpine plover
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just had 5 bulks in first stage of regular deep dive

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2 at the same time when the drop pod was open

tawdry lark
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That’s the deep dive experience

weary blaze
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second edd stage is real tough without engi platforms

foggy haven
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yk what

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im done with this weeks edd

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these stingtails in the 2nd stage got me trippin

solemn void
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anyone up for a deepdive.. ive never dont one before..

humble harbor
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got damn...edd got hands

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i think the hardest one was salvage due to the layout

humble harbor
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while being chased by a bulk

tall relic
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I was actually thinking

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Would putting a bunch of ziplines by the uplink help at all?

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I haven't seen the terrain but it seems like a big issue is getting chucked off the uplink zone by stingtails

spiral badge
tranquil gull
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Yeah I am not gonna touch that EED this week it sounds like hell

plucky anvil
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the swarms in edd2 is actual hell with that map layout

visual coyote
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Hey, what are the objectives for the deep dives this week?

void bridge
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You can see in the pinned messages

copper cedar
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Just had 4 bulks spawn on the second stage of EDD no crasuis though 😔

visual coyote
spiral badge
copper cedar
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Was ok though, got one early, 2 at the same time in middle, and one at the end we didn't kill, so only had to kill 2 of them essentially

humble harbor
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its magma core + the uplink is a very small space on a cliff

mellow cradle
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drill it down, and make a bigger space then

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that's what I would do

humble harbor
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theres a relatively flat and open space away from the cliff during downtime between the next pod

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i was solo gunner but yeah the driller would definitely have to drill it down and terraform the bottom because I remember it being jagged as hell down there

tall relic
vocal turtle
ancient hound
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this week first time edd 55:09, then second time 1:04:30, what i expect is around 30mins, gonna try it tomorrow again

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on stage 1 got 1 afk player then stage 2 got 2, this make the mission going worst than first time

young sand
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Gold is my natural habitat

solemn void
knotty otter
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I just unlocked Deep Dives

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how long are these missions on average?

tall relic
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Usually over a half hour

limpid canyon
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this week's EDD can rot in hell dear freaking lord

knotty otter
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where can i get mining speed beer
i dont see it

old widget
steel wyvern
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T2 EDD is not overhyped, it's fucking awful

slow lava
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ive failed T2 EDD at least 4 times by now

short stump
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Vannak fent magyarok? 😄

short bloom
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I swear the edd ain't gard

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but dear lord, are the randoms disorganized today

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once we get to the second room, everyone just buggers off

slow lava
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yeah thats why i keep failing

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and one time someone just disbanded before i could use iron will 😭

tall relic
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For in game VC do you need to hold down the key to use it? Or just press it to turn it on and press it again to turn it off?

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I don't normally use VC but I might for this EDD

mellow cradle
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you need to hold it

tall relic
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Gotcha

mellow cradle
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I bound it to my additional mouse buttons, but by default it's "Z" on pc

tall relic
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Yeah mouse button is a great idea, I think I'll do that

knotty otter
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Okay i just did a deep dive and got a Core... and Hoverclock and cosmetic

short bloom
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ffs people, why do you SPLIT UP

knotty otter
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What do with the core?

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i also see i need to upgrade something like 7x to get something

steel wyvern
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Beat EDD. Third try.

tall relic
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Damn you people are scaring the hell out of me

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I only started EDDs a few weeks ago but I have yet to fail one

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Have a feeling this is gonna break the streak

atomic skiff
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first time unlocked dds failed edd on last cause swarmageddon 2nd week was clutch trio after someone rage quit this week 2 fails so far notnice

static lichen
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aight, soloed this edd

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3 deaths, all on stage 2

knotty otter
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DDs arent that hard bcos theyre only 3,5 difficulty
EDDs on the other hand are 5,5 so they require coordination

static lichen
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stage 2 is goddamn insane

atomic skiff
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edd stage 2 this week notnice

thick sapphire
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one annoying thought, if you go engi and can't decide between hyper prop (for dreads) or rj250 (for the terrain in stage 2 and swarmers in 3)

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i'm just worried that the experienced players will get through it and then the pub lobbies will only have greenbeards left

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though at that point i can just attempt it solo

static lichen
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ecr + hyper prop

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hyper prop helps with them stingtails

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and random bulk attacks during stage 2

thick sapphire
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does armor breaking hyperprop work for stingtails or is it still not worthwhile/fire better?

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also the o2 warning isn't too bad in stage 1 as long as you manage it and don't go way far off without molly; it does give you one more thing to think about during the boss

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and also makes the extraction a bit trickier since the "drill straight to droppod" strategy becomes risky if it's far away

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so you either have to just run to the pod or stick with molly and actually have to fight bugs

static lichen
thick sapphire
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i haven't done an attempt with engi yet though

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so far i've tried gunner twice and scout once

static lichen
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it's good for stingtails, just pop them once, and they have like, 10% hp, and are stunned so you can finish them off easily

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engi is a good pick for this one, you can negate a lot of terrain issues

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and you control the spawning of pretty much every swarm/miniswarm, so you can set up turrets

thick sapphire
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my attempts were full pub lobbies i should add

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if i were to try it solo then yeah probably engi

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especially with all the cursed terrain

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the spitball next to the pod also kills lots of greenbeards

static lichen
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full pubs are cursed

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i had two attempts with randos

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first one, we actually got past stage 2, but our gunner with character level 30 started huffing glue on stage 3, and we just ran out of ammo

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second one, we just got wiped on stage 2

knotty otter
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What do i need for the 5 levels in forge?

solar depot
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Yeah I have not had luck doing this EDD with randoms so far, on stage 2 we wanted to guide a bulk to the main area to clear it out but scout and gunner thought it was going to regen health and tried to kill it in spawn

short bloom
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heads up for everyone, Driller is USELESS in this EDD, have two engis with you and let turrets go to town, they REALLY saved our asses

static lichen
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you could do a vim build, and drilling around can help with stage 2

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but yeah, doubling down on another class is better

pliant yoke
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Oh yeah, this EDD definitely looks like a VIM material

coral pond
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No hiveguard pog

solar depot
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I’m going to counter that, I’ve been using mostly driller for this EDD and on stage 2 either getting enemies flamed or drilling into them helps to stop the regen and bringing cryo naturally assists other classes for quicker kills

coral pond
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Is this one of those minelayer + hellfire kinda edds?

static lichen
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honestly, not really?

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lsls + hellfire is better

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too many things here require single target dps

short bloom
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What @static lichen said, double down is key for this edd

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Cause damn, double fat boys

static lichen
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fat boy

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no, just go breach cutter

short bloom
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Kablams and mushrooms everywhere

static lichen
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vim + persistent plasma driller should keep up here, cryo might work if you have a coordinated team, fire will be very tough here

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also, for stage 3, fighting both dreads in the spawn room is a good idea

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if you have enough leftover nitra, just do it at the beginning

short bloom
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Fought every dread in the edd in the spawn

static lichen
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rush them, and then just quickly clean up the stage

static lichen
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it had enough space

short bloom
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I told em to hold off until we finished them for the last egg then as soon as the egg is in, sprint to the pod, two of us made it it

north haven
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Guys is it worth it to do this weeks EDD?

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I have heard a bunch of people talking about how hard this one is

short bloom
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Oh yes, you'll feel like a beast when you finish it, Karl would be proud

north haven
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True..

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What do you get out of EDDs again?

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I have never tried one

static lichen
short bloom
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Blank, weapon oc, cosmetic oc

junior cove
north haven
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But does this one give you more XP?

short bloom
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Yeah

solar brook
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well my first attempt lasted 3 minutes before all 3 of my randoms were downed

north haven
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I'm going in

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Rock and Stone

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Will update you all if shit goes down.

short bloom
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Best of luck

solar brook
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may karl be with you

junior cove
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My team of randoms were actually doing well until our driller fell off the cliff and died during refueling

north haven
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Bro I heard a lot about the cliff during refueling

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Hopefully, I get a driller so we can make more space around the cliff

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So we dont all get stingtailed

static lichen
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just get your engi to spam platforms there

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helps a lot

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but yeah, prepare the terrain before refueling

north haven
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I would love to if any randoms would JOIN MY EDD

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Maaaaan

static lichen
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honestly, considering the kind of randoms i tried this edd with

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going solo was the lesser of two evils here

north haven
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Still, I'm uh

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Gonna do it with randoms

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I just need anyone bro, an engineer, a driller

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Whatever

thick sapphire
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if i go driller then yeah i guess i could run vim

static lichen
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funny thing is, i ran normal dd in a three driller team

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it was still bad

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dense biozone dropping in with the worst terrain generation you have seen in your entire life

tacit jungle
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yeah that wasn't too bad with the team sticking together

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love the leech placement, really spruces up the cave

exotic holly
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what gunner loadout should I use for edd?

solar brook
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well judging from my last 30 minutes...the one that puts out the most friendly fire

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and is always out of shields

tacit jungle
north haven
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Its over

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We failed.

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Got swamped during the connection phase of Stage 2

reef flint
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My dear Engineer brother Schaupps, the entire Engie team waited for you to reconnect until the literal last second. I'm sorry you disconnected at the very end of the deep dive.
I take a screenshot after every mission and I wanted you in it.

Rock and Stone, you beautiful lost Dwarf.

north haven
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You lost one?

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May he be remembered as a hero.

reef flint
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Yeah, he disconnected right when he got in the drop pod

north haven
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RIP

teal needle
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Mannnn I love this game

north haven
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Dont we all

vocal saddle
north haven
vocal saddle
tall relic
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Alright yeah people weren't overhyping stage 2 of that EDD

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The mini mules, egg swarm, and first uplink weren't bad at all

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But the second uplink..

random leaf
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glyphid stingtroll

tall relic
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Bulk det spawned above it, tried to lure it away but couldn't. Had to kill it and it blew up half the platforms we were standing on. After that we were going down several times a minute. Two IWs weren't able to save it.

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Hardest uplink I've ever experienced by far

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Stingtails weren't even the biggest issue

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Getting a bulk det during the uplink with that terrain is just nearly impossible to deal with reasonably

random leaf
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i had 4 spawn at once

tall relic
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Yikes

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That was my first EDD fail but it felt completely unavoidable

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I also think I'm done doing EDDs with randos

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I had a scout that left almost immediately after we started, and an unresponsive driller

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Like completely unresponsive

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No responding to r messages, no replying to questions, and he regularly ran off on his own and went down during the second stage

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How easy is it to find people to do EDDs with in this server?

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I try to be as reasonable as possible. I don't mind if the people I'm playing with aren't super skilled, I just want communication

coral pond
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post your lobby, say you wanna edd. There's bound to be some people willing to help or that still need to run it

tall relic
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Gotcha

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I'm gonna try it again tomorrow. I think I'd be better off playing with people here than randos

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Actually hell I wanna try it again right now

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Idk how many NA people would be down to play at this time but it's worth a shot

woeful niche
tall meadow
tall relic
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Hopped into a seemingly competent lobby but not feeling too confident

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If we fail I'm def down

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yeah we just failed

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@woeful niche @tall meadow both of you still down?

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you're welcome to start it up

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I'm dedicated to get this done tonight lol

tall meadow
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sure

woeful niche
tall meadow
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pod 4

cinder tinsel
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Hard to play EDD when ur ping like over 100 ms every single room u joined😭

solar depot
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@tall meadow Still doing EDD in pod 4?

tall relic
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Nah we just finished up

tall meadow
lavish sparrow
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How was it?

tall meadow
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@solar depot NA host

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hop in pod 4 if you want

woeful niche
tall relic
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Yeah I enjoyed it

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Stage 2 lived up to the hype

unique ore
short bloom
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I might be a good leader when it comes to EDDs, twice in two weeks I had greenbeards asking me what the next step is, where and when to drop the pod

static lichen
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i always get some awful randos on edds

tall relic
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In general I think I'm gonna start using lfg in this server a lot more

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Actually communicating with the people you're playing with is so nice

short bloom
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how many times have ou tried this one ?

tall relic
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Most missions I play everyone is silent, and leave as soon as the mission is done

tall relic
short bloom
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yeah\

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and we had THREE beers before splitting yesterday with my randos, you must be hitting some mighty leafy dwarves, I tell you

tall relic
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I wish lmao

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and it took me three tries

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First try I got a bulk det right on top of the last uplink. Second try a scout accidentally started the first uplink as the rest of the team was down by the mini mules

short bloom
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I would had finished first try, no shit, but two of us timed out

tall relic
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Damn

short bloom
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the secret to the third try was the engis, they saved our crispy bacon multiple times

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they also knew to prioritize the gunner when rezzing

tall relic
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Engi was super important yeah

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Good gunner ziplines and a driller that knows how to terraform were also big

short bloom
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we had TWO engis

tall relic
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Tbh scout is probably the least necessary class for this EDD lmao

short bloom
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didn't see the point in a driller this time around

tall relic
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You did the uplinks without a driller?

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That sounds like hell

short bloom
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yeah, two engis

polar torrent
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i did this normal deep dive solo as scout since DBZ’s terrain is pretty weird

short bloom
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no sweat, really, no bunker, two engis, one gunner with cluster and the engis BOTH had fatboy

polar torrent
short bloom
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I switched for my swarm build with zhukov and CC the crap out of the swarms

polar torrent
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i ran cryo minelets and they helped a lot

tall relic
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Idk, even with terraforming the uplinks felt really cramped with bugs

static lichen
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gunner with leadbursters helps a lot

tall relic
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I was a leadbuster gunner yeah

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I killed the bulk det but was basically forced to do so right on top of the uplink

polar torrent
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leads are always useful

tall relic
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I wanted to lure it away

short bloom
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the biggest deal breaker were the stingtails

static lichen
polar torrent
tall relic
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We had a huge platform floor

polar torrent
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8.5s stun

tall relic
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Our engi tried rebuilding it after the explosion but there were too many bugs

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It was basically an unwinnable situation

short bloom
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overwhelming firepower seems the norm for this week

polar torrent
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bulks on salvages can really fuck things up

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good to know when going in that there is at least one in the spawn pool

tall relic
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Yeah def

polar torrent
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i’d take AISE but that means cryo minelets are a lot less synergistic

tall relic
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Overall though, great EDD. The last few have been a bit tame with the exception of the magma core EDD from three weeks ago so I'm happy to see another challenging one

short bloom
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at the advice of the team, we lured it away from the pod

tall relic
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Yeah if a bulk explodes near the pod then it's over

short bloom
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I don't know why but it's been a bit of theme that the SECOND stage of the edd is what does most of us in

tall relic
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Unless the driller can do some inhumane terraforming

tall relic
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Magma point extraction with shield disruption and an uplink, egg hunt with elite praets and trijaws, a magma egg hunt with bad terrain, and now this

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I have yet to do an EDD with industrial sabotage but I'm really looking forward to that

tall meadow
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Everything turns out fine in the end dw~

coral pond
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blankets you still up for edd runs?

tall meadow
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You want to run an EDD?

coral pond
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ye i was gonna, just seein if you wanted to join

tall relic
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Damn how many times do you guys run the EDDs lmfao

tall meadow
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Sure if you need help, I’ll get out of bed

tall meadow
coral pond
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my usual group isn't playin anymore, and based on people's words here idk if i should trust randoms

tall meadow
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Kek

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you’ll be fine

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But sure I’ll hop on if you want

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NA?

coral pond
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na east

tall meadow
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Sure

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Time to get back up

coral pond
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i'll throw up inv in lfg then

tall meadow
tall relic
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Yeah fair

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I wish I ran the magma core EDD from three weeks ago more

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That's the most fun one I've done so far

short bloom
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I had one before the break between seasons

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it was O2

tall relic
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They don't seem common which is probably for the better lol

short bloom
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not common ?

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around christmas, last year, we had O2 three weeks in a row :/

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one of them was point extraction at the hollow and it was HORRIFIC

tall relic
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Oh no I was talking about industrial sabotage

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But damn that sounds terrible

woeful niche
short bloom
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not with zappparangs

static lichen
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good to know

woeful niche
short bloom
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?

placid musk
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please don't run BC for the EDD

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stage 2 is VIR heaven

static lichen
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hyperprop gaming

north wing
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first time talking here because damn this deep dive was hard

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was maybe my 3rd elite deep dive ever

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1st two went pretty smooth all things considered

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then this one we were obliterated in the second mission

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i joined a new lobby and 3/4 of us had teamwiped previously in the big room in the second mission

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then we nearly did die in the room and a single spit baller killed us like times because it was perched above our bodies

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barely made it out and then super cautiously did level 3

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super fun though, most immersed i've ever been in a mission

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going into it the second time knowing what danger awaited us, nearly all dying like 4 times against the spitballs, managing to res and then to die during an endless swarm

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the scout and engie dying just so the driller could get away

short bloom
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wait, the SCOUT died ?

north wing
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yeah

short bloom
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the fastest one in the squad died ?

north wing
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driller was most experienced of us lol

short bloom
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weird

north wing
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we were both relatively greenbeards

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driller was like lvl 400 I think

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scout was like 48

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And I think I am like 40ish

tepid granite
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done my EDD

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this week been sweaty

atomic skiff
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5 attempts to get through edd stage 2 dstare

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5 more to get rhough 3 yikes

humble harbor
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might aswell cheese with minelayer

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theres nothing worse than when drop pod is refueling and you hear a bulk spawn

winged marlin
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anyone need a teamate im not bad at the game and bored af

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i dont play driller tho

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i main scout but if you need gunner or engi im fine with switching

short stump
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Magyarokat keresek. Ha magadra ismertél írj rám, vagy vegyél fel barátnak 😄

rose yacht
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noob scouts always dies first

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i got my whole squad killed once as scout in edd cuz i died in a really bad spot.

runic relic
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Sometimes you gotta let a teammate go, especially in edd where you revive anyways

cedar berry
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Anyone wanna do a deep dive? I just finally did my first promotion on my scout and wanna try a deep dive

delicate saffron
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Very cringe edd. Why is it magma core, with stage 1 and 3 being literally the same objectives down to the same bosses even, just with different warnings

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It's not that it's difficult it's just so cringe

tepid granite
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i saw one tip for the hoarde in stage 2 and 3

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eng can use platform to manipulate the hoard path behaviour

thick sapphire
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stage 3 my squad decided to fight the egg swarm in the middle of all the magma vents, was annoying and i ended up going down

gusty loom
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a little unrelated to the deep dive but does anyone have optimization subgestions

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my entire laptop gets bricked on stage 2 of both the dd and edd so i cant finish either for shit

thick sapphire
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plus i was also expecting them to put the egg in and push the button but they didn't push the button

pseudo shell
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Assuming you're already running on the lowest settinfs

gusty loom
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re enabling no ragdolls might help

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i do have the mod but have left it unapplied and forgot to enable it again

river orbit
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whats the current Deep Dive / EDD

dim fern
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has eed changed off magma core yet

river orbit
dim fern
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AHHHhHwokdb71),2?

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

prime olive
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same bro

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same

ancient cove
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EDD is really cursed this time

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I still think Stingtails are way too tanky

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They are missing at least a small weak point that can be targeted from the beginning

tepid granite
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where is the weakpoint btw

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like on top ?

ancient cove
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If you shoot long enough, top of the head, it's blue

olive flicker
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They have 2 weakpoints, 1 below the armour on their top, another below their mouths.

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The lower one is only really visible from a lower angle.

dry root
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mmmm 50 downs in our team during edd

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pretty tough compared to last couple weeks

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good thing we res each other quite fast so no close calls

thick sapphire
prime olive
coral pond
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the only thing seriously tanky about them is the armor tbh, which is easily countered by a lot of armor break mods(especially on scout with gk2 and m1k which both also have stun mods that don't compete with said armor break). 600 base hp with x2 weakpoints isn't that tanky

vocal coral
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What guns want to run armor break though

arctic plover
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And Armor break is still bugged with AoE damage

arctic plover
gloomy locust
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just solo'd EDD

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first one done solo

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2nd stage felt hardest by a decent margin

coral pond
gloomy locust
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m1000 doesnt care that much about armor with its armor break mod

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just punches right through it

tawny night
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I love that weapon

brisk spear
wraith shard
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So armor break is only effectively applied to direct damage?

knotty otter
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I need a build for Revolver or Coil gun for Single target since im using Crown Control on my gun

brave plaza
brisk pagoda
woeful niche
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drill armor break isnt really that important. It being able to stun and fear is pretty amazing tho

quartz birch
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how bad is this one

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the edd

coral pond
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stage 2 is honestly the worst of it, but it's not horrible. Solo might be a different story though

jagged rapids
# coral pond stage 2 is honestly the worst of it, but it's not horrible. Solo might be a diff...

Would have to agree. Had a level 20 and a level 30, myself (458) and a level 323. We got to the final stage first try and were almost done (last dread and egg) but my game crashed (I was the host 💀).

Stage 2 was tough but honestly S3 hit us harder bc we had low nitra near the start and swarmers weren't letting us chill but we recovered and were on the path to victory... Until my game said "nah"

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Overall tho, I think it's not as bad as peeps are saying when it comes to "skip this week". Just need a couple players who can take lead for those that are newer / don't pay attention

bitter epoch
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should i kick people in my elite deep dive if they dont bring iron will? we failed bc of it

jagged rapids
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Imho no

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But your lobby, your rules. If you're upfront about it, I think then it's a bit more fair

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We may differ tho, I run "bring whatever you want, nonsense builds welcome, greenbeards welcome" lobbies

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I'm too lazy to think about other's builds lol

bitter epoch
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btw how do i do those welcome msg? that others can read

jagged rapids
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If you're on console, you can't. I make those sort of notes in my discord post or just in the lobby chat

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Someone can chime in to correct me if I'm wrong but for steam I think it's in your game setting menu somewhere? I'm on console so idk

coral pond
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i'm pretty sure it's a mod

jagged rapids
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No lol

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It's part of the game for sure

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Devs are constantly asked to add the same support for console

coral pond
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if it was in the game it'd just already be on console

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i'm 90% sure it's the message of the day mod

jagged rapids
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No, they've actually said they have to add a bunch of extra features as required by PlayStation and microsoft to get it on console

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It comes up in the dev streams here and there

coral pond
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are you talking about the lobby names? cause that's something entirely different that he's asking about

jagged rapids
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Huh... What are they asking about then?

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Cuz yes that's what I'm talking about

coral pond
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a welcome message showing up in chat when someone joins the lobby

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which would be a mod

jagged rapids
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Oh, that's a thing?

coral pond
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yeah

jagged rapids
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My b, never even heard about that before

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That'd be cool

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"this is where I'd put my welcome message ... IF I HAD ONE!"

pure owl
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i just promoted my first dwarf and i have no idea what deep dives are, someone explain?

sacred whale
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its basically 3 consecutive missions

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with 2 main objectives per depth

fallow sun
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It's a 3 consecutive missions, with 2 objectives, each missions is little harder than the last

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1 mission is like haz 3
2 mission is 3.5
3 mission is 3.5

sacred whale
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its 3, 3.5, 3.5

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not 4

fallow sun
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Ah, ok, thanks

sacred whale
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unless they changed it, that was the case when i last checked like a year ago lol

fallow sun
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Probably the same

devout peak
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Deep Dive is 3.0 3.5 3.5
Elite Deep Dive is 4.5 5.0 5.5

devout peak
steep night
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This weekly deep dive was the pain in the ass

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First level low oxygen is too hard

hushed sequoia
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call at least 1 resup in each dread room and it was quite easy

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then call molly to the other side of the room

raven carbon
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This deep dive had 3 bulks in 1 stage

tall relic
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Try four

tiny dagger
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looks like i can't drill to the pod again

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fuckkk

ancient cove
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You can, if you're fast enough :D

olive flicker
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Just call resups breather

ancient cove
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Also a solution, but only if all teammates have about 50% or less ammo, so it isn't a waste. And you have time it right, so it's not too early and not too late to get some air