deep-dive-discussion

[short bloom]

YAY LOW GRAV !

[copper cedar]

Cave leeches in horrible positions on stage 2 and 3 in EDD. A fair few spitballers, not an obscene amount, but more than just a few.

Leech grabs you off the dozer at the start of the second phase in stage 3, solo at least.
Leech at the highest point in the top middle of the cave with all the eggs in stage 2, impossible to see unless you know where to look.

[zenith ember]

leeches are pretty bad in stage 2 yeah

easy to miss if you are focusing on stationaries

[copper cedar]

Dunno what its like in a co-op game, but seems to be only 1 in solo.

[zenith ember]

5-7? at least the ones i shot down

[copper cedar]

So a lot more then.

[zenith ember]

yeah

[spiral badge]

Anyone know how many stops for the escort duties?

[copper cedar]

Only 1 on solo

[stray bane]

where are the two new deep dives located? (don’t tell me the rewards)

[zenith ember]

1 for me

[zenith ember]

dd sandblasted
edd molten core

[stray bane]

molten core again?

[zenith ember]

if you want the full details its pinned

[stray bane]

but let’s go i love sandblasted

[zenith ember]

eh the molten core generation is kinda ok

maybe a few gunner ziplines here and there but its more than playable

[stray bane]

what ab the sandblasted one

[zenith ember]

normal stuff

[stray bane]

ight

thanks

[pseudo escarp]

mactera plague in this deep dive that's not good

oh wait it's for the regular one

[copper cedar]

Also, chance of betc spawning in a few times too

[olive flicker]

Leech spawns are not 100% consistent in edd btw.

If there is a leech there will be a leech, but sometimes there are more and the location isn't always identical. (even for the same player count)

[ivory marten]

Alright lets see what hell I have to-

Escort Duty Regen Bugs

oh boy...

And on top of that... Stage 2 Mactera Plague.

[copper cedar]

I was not aware, thank you for this

[ivory marten]

At least I got some Backbreaker for the eggs and legs...

[olive flicker]

Can c4 break wave gun pimples (from the oc)?

I think I just saw it happen but am not sure.

[ivory marten]

No.

[lament coral]

5.5 lethal enemies escort

[indigo bolt]

it is low grav though so you won’t spend as much time on the ground

still haz 5.5 lethal enemies though

[copper cedar]

Whats lethal enemies? I for some reason assumed it was elite threat

[indigo bolt]

it’s double damage for enemy melee attacks if i remember correctly

[copper cedar]

Oh wow. No wonder they shred on stage 3

[echo crag]

Would anyone have advice for a solo scout (it's my first deep dive and I want to do well)

[coral pond]

Phero nades, phero bolts, and fire bolts are going to be your bread and butter swarm clear. That or aggressive venting drak are possibly your best options

[echo crag]

Cheers

[silent tiger]

Okay this was the first elite deep dive i've completed

So i cant compare it

Was this an easy one?

Or have i been afraid of doing edd's for too long and now they don't even feel that bad

[full saddle]

probably the 2nd

this one wasnt very hard but

[coral pond]

They tend to vary, honestly

Sometimes you get super easy ones that feel like you're playing haz 3, and sometimes you get ones that feel like you're 90 minutes into a point extraction and already out of nitra

[sharp tundra]

Wow that was actually pretty ez

If anything the second mission was the hardest

[lament coral]

Edd wasn’t that bad

I only died to fall dmg, not bugs

[spiral badge]

Fall damage is a bug :p

[static lichen]

idk, i had three deaths in stage 1 and then no deaths in 2 and 3

stage 2 is a speedrunner's dream

stage 3 is a meme

[icy socket]

whatre the missions

isnt there a website for it

found on reddit nvm

[leaden cypress]

You can also check the pinned messages @icy socket

[sharp tundra]

Ye our driller died 17 times and the second highest death count was 7 lol

And that was due to an iron will use out of impatience from him

Only time it got close was second stage. The amount of lava makes it basically shield disruption. No iron will needed but everyone was down except me and I was engie

It felt like the ambushes were bigger than the swarms tho it was weird

[dense pebble]

did DD and EDD with the same group of randoms, and a completely new scout build

it was pretty good, I have gained an appreciation for the crossbow

[sharp tundra]

You must be console

[gloomy locust]

guess im bringing cryo bolts

[frigid heron]

My god, betc + double swarm right out of the bat almost got my squad

[thick sapphire]

i just want an edd attempt where nobody disconnects lol

[vagrant salmon]

rock and...

[high zenith]

STONE!!!

[spiral badge]

https://tenor.com/view/emma-stone-wink-gif-11223411

[frail forge]

Lethal enemies make me sad :c

[vagrant salmon]

yipee

[copper cedar]

Likewise. If you want to compare runs, that might give you something to compare it against

[silent tiger]

The lethal enemies didn't even feel lethal

[placid musk]

it's decently difficult

stage 2 has some cancer terrain

but overall not hard

[silent tiger]

Stage 2 was the huge open room with all the eggs right?

[placid musk]

yes

and the ravines

[silent tiger]

Fuck that room

Almost wiped there

The 2 spitballers side by side unironically almost killed the whole team

[thick sapphire]

when doretta takes the low gravity to heart

[fossil hearth]

How's the deep dives this week

Hard or mid or easy comparatively

[placid musk]

mid

[spiral bluff]

Mid --> hard depending

[placid musk]

if it takes 1 try for me to beat it it's mid

[spiral bluff]

took two for me, caused swarms left and right while drilling

[placid musk]

auto-popping was kinda shit

my teammates started accusing each other

[spiral bluff]

yikkkeesss

learned my lesson with the eggs

gotta take em slow

[tidal otter]

Deep dive missions this week?

[raven carbon]

Pinned message has the details

[tidal otter]

Thanks!!

[spiral sparrow]

This week's EDD is extremely hard. Attempted four times tonight. Died three times on part 2, and once on part 3.

[tribal ruin]

Can confirm, taking EDD Stage 2 mad slow with the egg collection made it bearable

[lost mortar]

this weeks non elite deep dive is really easy

is there magma core one difficult?

[snow hearth]

does soloing DDs count to solo missions done with bosco?

[snow hearth]

and can i quit DD once i get the blank core? or do i have to stay for all 3 stages

[olive flicker]

You can quit, if you want to try again it will start from stage 1.

[tacit jungle]

pretty relaxing EDD

[runic relic]

If you pop all at once you can use the spawnlimit in your favor though

[versed finch]

huh

[jovial garden]

Got a bit dicey on last stage EDD solo using gunner.

[frail forge]

Yeah last stage is a pain with Doretta pathing into every Spitball in a 5 mile radius

[dense pebble]

I didn't get many spitballers

but dottie mining the swarm egg was interesting

[frail forge]

Oh yeah that was funny

Had my team scramble looking for the egg

[delicate saffron]

Magma Core again criiiiiiinge

[little halo]

Madmen's Womb indeed

[dry solar]

What are the missions on the elite deep dive this week?

Like mission types

[eager flame]

Pinned messages

[dry solar]

Oh thx

[eager flame]

🪨

wait

wrong one

[dry solar]

[oblique yew]

is exploder infestation + gold rush + pots o' gold good for farming gold?

[patent elk]

Farm crassus dets with pots for optimum gold farming

[polar torrent]

looks like i’m running cryo this dive

[sharp tundra]

Are you sure? Mission sounds pretty different

[sharp tundra]

Exploder infestation does not increase chance of bulks/Crassus spawning

[full saddle]

flamer worked great for me 👍

[brave seal]

If you wake up 2 dreadnoutghs, abd put hormones of both, can they kill each other?

[tepid rivet]

Don't think pheromone work on dreads? Might be wrong tho..

Like a dread wont go for a target with pheromones

[zenith ember]

Correct, they ignore phero

[fast topaz]

what hazard are elite deep dives

4?

im wondering bc iit doesnt tell me

[olive flicker]

4.5/5/5.5

[fast topaz]

oh ty

[spiral badge]

Dreads are babies and their noses don’t work yet

^ totally real science explanation

[olive flicker]

Tried hellfire for the first time in the EDD today, pretty nice.

[snow hearth]

heh can dwarves actualy be left behind

[olive flicker]

Pretty alright EDD too, got downed once on stage 2 to cave leeches, but that's about it.

Lost 1 stage of dotty right before it finished.

[frail forge]

Yes you can leave Doretta behind technically. Not that you ever would

[lusty ice]

what haz level are each stages of dd?

[olive flicker]

3/3.5/3.5

[lusty ice]

thanks

[manic barn]

hey would anyone be down to do an EDD?

idk if this is the place to ask LMAO

[olive flicker]

There are lfg channels below.

[manic barn]

oh sweet

[onyx zodiac]

Guys I did my first deep dive alone:D

[olive flicker]

Now do the EDD.

[pseudo venture]

How do i tell if ive already done this weeks deep dive?

[mellow cradle]

the stages will be colored yellow in the deep dive terminal

if the stages weren't completed, they will be black

[pseudo venture]

ight cool thx

[snow hearth]

i dont mean doretta.. i meant actual dwarves, or are they just teleported down into pod?

also, what is this set of DDs rewards?

[coral pond]

They're just teleported to the pod/rig upon completion

[snow hearth]

cause i need cores badly, just so i can start soling the side infuser stuff

[coral pond]

Dd/edd rewards are always 1 blank core, 1 weapon overclock, 1 cosmetic core. But the actual oc/cosmetic is not the same for everybody

[snow hearth]

ahh ok

whats the difference between DD/EDD?

i assume one is harder, ofc, but anything else?

[coral pond]

Dd is hazard level 3/3.5/3.5

Edd is hazard 4.5/5/5.5

[snow hearth]

wait what, 5.5?

why cant we 5.5 in reg missions

[coral pond]

There's also something about the anomalies but i forget the specifics on that

You can with mods. But idk why exactly

It's honestly close enough to haz 5 to not really matter, especially since nitra from the previous stages carry over anyways

[snow hearth]

ahh ok

best to stick with reg dds for me then for now, until i can get finished oc using builds

or just get carried in a EDD

[candid bobcat]

the vanilla 5.5 difficulty isn't much different from vanilla haz 5

[tranquil warren]

haz 5 is ez they need to add haz 6

[worthy patio]

This week's EDD is a bit monka for solo with Lethal Enemies on a Drilldozer mission, but as the final one in the chain you at least don't hvae to scavenge for nitra

[tranquil warren]

sometimes you get a difficult haz 5 cave wish all caves could be like that

[snow hearth]

I hate DD dorretta

[worthy patio]

Not really, no. I think it's what, 10% of the community? that play Hazard 5? If you want to you can always play with the Custom Difficulty mod

[tranquil warren]

I want to get 2 bulk det on uplink zone

really only 10% ?

wtf the game is not even fun when not playing haz 5

[worthy patio]

One of us. One of us.

but it's true, most people play hazard 2-3

[snow hearth]

literally hate Deep Dorreta missions, and thats all mine've been lol

[tranquil warren]

2-3 ? lmao do they even die ?

[worthy patio]

Wish granted! No more Doretta missions! Instead, you get Caretaker every time now. 🙂

[tranquil warren]

when I do regular DD i can literally not care about bugs and I never die

[snow hearth]

honestly wouldnt mind that tho, just gon play scout

[worthy patio]

you'd be surprised how casual the majority of the DRG playerbase is. I have friends who played for 300+ hours and only ever play haz3

[tranquil warren]

wtf

well if it can make more money for the devs guess I won't complain more updates

[worthy patio]

only 1.1% of players on steam have all 4 classes on gold promotion

[snow hearth]

gold or higher i thoght

[worthy patio]

that's what I mean

but you get the achievement the second you get the last gold promo

[snow hearth]

tbf 1% of 20k is still like 2k...

[worthy patio]

1% of 20k is not 2k, that'd be 10%

[tranquil warren]

it's 1% of players all time

is there only 20k?

[worthy patio]

no. 😄 DRG sold copies in the millions I think

[snow hearth]

oh wait yea.. sorry 200

[tranquil warren]

1% of millions then

[worthy patio]

5.5 million copies sold, just checked google

[snow hearth]

true but how many of that actual still active>

[tranquil warren]

don't know but haz 6 would be cool

just haz 5 with more bugs should do it

[worthy patio]

so assuming the numbers for promotions are the same on other platforms (since I can only see Steam achievements right now) it'd be 55,000 players who have all 4 classes at least promoted to Gold

[worthy patio]

24 hour peak is around 20k players

(on Steam)

which means it's at least in the top 50 by current players on Steam. 😄

[burnt sandal]

no, they don't

[tranquil warren]

of course they don't have to but it would be cool

or add something harder for the end game

because except grinding overclocks there's not much

[snow hearth]

wait theres not an end game?

[tranquil warren]

also I don't think it's that hard to implement

[worthy patio]

there is, it's called Custom Difficulty mod

[tranquil warren]

just spawn more bugs

[worthy patio]

if you ever feel like getting your teeth kicked in you know where to go

[burnt sandal]

it's dev time sunk into something that will please only an extremely limited part of the playerbase, I'd rather they do something else with their time tbh

[snow hearth]

i dont mean modded bruh

[burnt sandal]

that's also not how it works

performance are to be considered

[worthy patio]

more bugs doesn't always mean it's more difficult

[burnt sandal]

and spawning more bugs change the balance of the game

it's not an easy task at all

[snow hearth]

more weapons, classes, cosmetics, abilties, regions, mission types!

[burnt sandal]

especially considering most people don't even seem to agree on what haz 6 should be

[worthy patio]

I brought up player stats to show how ~95% of the playerbase doesn't care about "endgame" / high difficulty, and they will not reach the end of the Overclock grind either

[burnt sandal]

most people play for about 85 hours on average so yeah

(it's pretty good but not enough to get through the whole grind)

(but that's to be expected)

[worthy patio]

Why waste time to create content for 5% when you can create content for 95% of the playerbase instead. The 5% also benefit from new enemy types and encounters

[burnt sandal]

that's the reasoning that created the free battlepass

things people can grind no matter their level

[snow hearth]

now i wonder how many rockpox bosses have been killed

like in the entire community, overall

[worthy patio]

you can approximate that number @snow hearth
so.. take average player number
take average session time under consideration
factor in average mission time
consider Harold only spawns in missions without Lithophage Outbreak
spawns 50% of the time instead of a Big Meteor
there's your total Harolds

🤓

[burnt sandal]

harold is a 12.75% spawn chance on average IIRC

[snow hearth]

yea but am in a DD atm and dont wanna do that math

also Engie's 40mm reminds me of the electro ability gun from bo3

when in dark future tech form

does the drop pod repeat where its spawns, (considering the map is the exact same)

answer is yse

wish could change class mid DD

[inner plover]

is it even worth using anthing other than the minigun on gunner

[static lichen]

if you don't like having a challenge, minelayer and ntp exist

other than that, idk about thunderhead, don't like it, but hurricane packs some decent builds

[inner plover]

hurricane looked fun because of the homing

[static lichen]

season 4's plasma burster missiles are on par with lead storm overclock

barrage is fun, but afaik not really good

jet fuel homebrew kind of keeps up

[inner plover]

i dont see those upgrades

[static lichen]

they are overclocks

[inner plover]

ahh

[static lichen]

stock hurricane is kind of sad, but tbf stock minigun is also sad

[coral pond]

Hurricane has the highest dps overclock, and one of the strongest overclocks in the game

[woeful niche]

barrage is pretty solid

[woeful niche]

what? both stock minigun and hurricane are great

[static lichen]

hurricane, maybe, it's weird, but you can get used to it

stock minigun? hell no

i initially bounced off of gunner hard solely because stock minigun sucks

[woeful niche]

by stock do u mean modless or ocless

[static lichen]

ocless

[coral pond]

Ocless minigun is perfectly fine

[woeful niche]

ye no hard disagree. Minigun without ocs is arguably better then hurricane

autocannon is leagues worse then both with or without ocs

[static lichen]

clearing swarms with stock minigun was a pain

[woeful niche]

it does just fine with blowthrough and av

[coral pond]

Yeah that's all you really need

[woeful niche]

i use a little more oomph from time to time and that’s pretty close to stock minigun

[static lichen]

running av on anything other than burning hell feels weird

[woeful niche]

imo stock minigun > stock hurricane >>>>>>> stock autocannon

[warped veldt]

minigun relies a lot on its t5 tho

[woeful niche]

not at all lol

[coral pond]

AV is great once you get used to it. Without bullet hell or burning hell, you just focus an lst until close to overheating, then dive into the swarm to av all the grunts

It's not at all reliant on t5s

[woeful niche]

minigun is very solid even without tier 5s

[warped veldt]

i just find that a big portion of my crowd control comes from the fire mods

[woeful niche]

unless we are talking modded haz, heat propagation is not happening with minigun alone. It can totally deal with haz 5 swarms with just blow through

[static lichen]

that's funny, i've seen some people talking all the best things about thunderhead

and then it turned out it heavily sucks unless you get that one busted oc

[woeful niche]

and those ppl wud be wrong because autocannon is genuinely dog shit

ntp makes it strong but hurricane has its own busted oc too that’s even more op

[warped veldt]

we should get a busted minigun oc to even out all the primaries

how about whenever you kill an enemy it freezes everything around it

[woeful niche]

minigun doesn’t have anything op but it’s pretty well balanced overall

[static lichen]

bullet hell that actually deals damage would get quite close

and it would have the same gimmick the other two busted overclocks get

that being "just randomly fire, you don't even need to really aim"

but they prevented it by making bullet hell mid

[warped veldt]

it would be super easy for them to do the same thing to minelayer

lowering the damage by a decent bit would make it awful

[woeful niche]

bullet hell is already pretty spectacular cc

[static lichen]

and imo a good way to nerf ntp would be cutting down the magazine size

[warped veldt]

well it worked for sticky fuel

its pretty busted still but i dont ever see it being put on the same tier as ntp

[snow hearth]

if i solo a DD, does it count to solo missions done? or nah?

[kindred jolt]

Are there any tips for elite deep dives? I play haz 4/5 regularly, I'm level 82 but still haven't completed a single EDD. Or is it just a gamble playing with randoms

[old widget]

If you play Haz 4/5 regularly, just go play the EDD, it’s not that bad. Even with randoms it’s generally fine. Don’t self-gate…go forth, have fun, and rock and stone.

[thick sapphire]

i like barrage with stun

[dreamy hedge]

Honestly just take ur time with it, if you do 4/5 regularly it’s not really much different from EDD, even with randoms

[foggy harness]

Well that's dumb as hell

[hushed sequoia]

you only have to redo all 3 if you want the cosmetic core

you still earn the blank & weapon from stage 1 and 2

[lost mortar]

i finished all of the deep dives in one day

now i gotta wait a week

[cobalt shale]

Anyone have any good scout weapon combos/builds? I've got the drak covered. I'll also take any hurricane combos. I'm close to having a build for every weapon.

[woeful niche]

any m1 oc with ab is good

[surreal girder]

is an hour a good time for an elite deep dive, i js did my first one in that time

[somber basin]

I fid last week's in 30 mins

[surreal girder]

oh😭

im pretty new to the game so im not good at speed running

[candid talon]

this too

[ripe tiger]

where do I go to see the deep dive info for this week?

nvm found it pinned

[night island]

Yeah that's good some ppl are just speed runners. Mine usually take like an hour and a half

[surreal girder]

oh ok, and i think longer was definitely more fun

[coral crescent]

how is this week's edd

[full saddle]

stage 1 easy stage 2 can be rough if your team trolls and picks up eggs quick, stage 3 is lethal enemies drilldozer but youll have 400 nitra and low grav

stage 3 egg gets popped by drilldozer so dont get surprised by that

[coral crescent]

would you say its rougher than last week?

[full saddle]

i think a bit easier

but both werent terribly hard i think

well i heard s3 last week was rough due to betc

but in solo it didnt spawn in a place that was bad so it went okay for me

i think s2 is the one this week that people sometimes get owned by, theres a lot of leeches and its pretty open

[coral crescent]

s2 turned out to be pretty easy

we had a greenbeard engie that wasnt putting out platforms and that was the biggest obstacle lol

there was like one leech and it died immediately

for my team and i atleast

[olive flicker]

I had 2 leeches solo that stage.

[olive flicker]

Mine usually take 50-60 mins solo, really depends on the generation.

[sharp tundra]

Honestly stage 2 was the hardest for me cuz all the lava geysers meant I basically had no shield

Third stage u could just spam jump

[tall relic]

This week's EDD was fun

Usually I go in with some prior knowledge but I went in completely blind for once. The haz 5.5 Escort mission was a nice surprise

But yeah stage 2 was probably the hardest because the terrain in the main cave wasn't great

I wish satchels weren't completely useless in Magma Core

[surreal imp]

Pincheck

[flat grail]

i cant figure out how to promote my gunner to do deep dives. do i just level up a bunch till it automatically does it or what?

[plain smelt]

When will the next deep dive be announced?

I hate the horo bourgh map

[coral pond]

If you read the pinned message, it says so

[plain smelt]

thanks

[old widget]

This explains all about it:

https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Promotion

Read through it, feel free to ask questions if something isn’t clear

[plain smelt]

get to level 25 and do the assigment mission

[uneven valve]

and then go to the Memorial Hall and get what you deserve!

[dawn egret]

I HATE INDUSTRIAL SABATOGE I HATE ROBOTIC APPENDAGE I HATE SHREDDERS I HATE ALL THE STUPID FUCKING ROBOTS THAT I HAVE TO SPEND ALL OF MY AMMO TO KILL I HATE ALL THESE STUPID FUCKING ROBOTS SPAWNING IN AND KILLING ALL MY FRIENDS AND I HATE RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO SAVE THEM AND MORE FUCKING ROBOTS SHOW UP AND PHASE BOMBS AND I CANT FUCKING KILL THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH FUCKING HEALTH AND DO SO MUCH DAMAGE AND I

[coral pond]

Honestly engi and driller make sabotage, or just rival presence missions in general, much easier to deal with

[tall relic]

Driller?

His satchels are good against Caretaker but he isn't great against robots aside from Burst Turrets

[spiral badge]

Why don’t we have electric bullets to damage robots real quick

[coral pond]

Crspr with heat mod overheats things pretty quickly, with good aim a single axe kills the caretaker arms, and ofc the satchel charges.

[old widget]

Heavy hitter EPC w/heat isn’t horrible either

[outer cloud]

yeah doesn't it destroy sniper turrets in like 2-3 hits? pretty useful

[winged marlin]

I tried to do the elite deep dive solo and it did not go to plan whatsoever

[daring sandal]

elite deep dive solo, i see you like to live dangerously

[proud coyote]

Edd solo funny https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/806954062775320617/1132449841352548352/image.png

Especially that last stage when doretta popped an egg and a swarm came on top of the first one

Of course I brought her head back (and used fatboy )

[median charm]

I lost at stage 3 to bet-c

Solo

[wraith shard]

How's the dive this week lads?

Aw fuck Mac plague

[tall relic]

Mactera plague wasn't that extreme compared to what I'm used to

If you're fast then you can finish before the first swarm even starts

[turbid dawn]

explaining this to randos is a waste of life tho

[woeful niche]

this weeks edd is very easy, did it twice in a row with 2 different groups

[tardy scarab]

anyone having a problem with reconnection?

[spiral badge]

It wasn’t a problem really

[deep owl]

any xbox players up for an EDD rn

[pseudo river]

Cryo with scout on mac plague

[fringe thistle]

Reminds me of a few months ago when it was "Boss Week" and both dives had a bunch of bosses. I went into the EDD solo on a scout to dunk on dreads... Shit that was dreadful on the swarmageddon stage

Fun as hell during the boss fights tho

[fringe thistle]

Yeah this week was pretty straightforward

[thorny gull]

It doesn't work :c

[signal veldt]

Don't you love it when a bronze 1 scout calls in a resupply for health half way through stage 1 of edd

Honestly

Also a driller who didn't drill

[olive flicker]

Better to be alive without nitra than dead without.

[visual garnet]

After almost exactly 500 hours in DRG I finally attempted my first EDD. And... it actually went really well. I thought it would be way scarier and harder than it turned out to be. 😄

[full saddle]

yeah theyre really not that bad! free ocs every week for you now

[visual garnet]

(I already have all the weapon OCs lmao)

[spiral badge]

I had that this week

[vast ore]

where do they post the missions for EDD

[earnest jacinth]

Pinned

[olive flicker]

Time to finish up the cosmetic ones.

[maiden prism]

I think I’m gonna do my first deep dive in this game I got another friend who plays this game with me should I just do a duo run or is it worth it to join a group with 2 randoms?

[olive flicker]

You can do them solo too if you want.

[maiden prism]

Also how difficult are they? We usually do Hazard 3 with no deaths and we can usually complete a hazard 4

[olive flicker]

Normal deepdives are 3/3.5/3.5

So easier than haz 4.

EDD gets spicy.

[maiden prism]

Thanks for all the help

Rock and stone

[wraith shard]

Yo

[placid musk]

500????

i did my first edd at level 80

terrible experience

[tardy radish]

what the fuck

so many spreaders on stage 3 😭

we made it out but there were like 2-4 spawning every other swarm and it was so annoying

[runic relic]

You guys are such scaredy cats, just join some edds and theyll give you the practice to handle them

[olive flicker]

Spreaders are a pretty interesting addition in that they can snipe you without line of sight which makes point defense (salvage, hack-c) more involved.

[pale wing]

hi

[copper cedar]

Lmao. I did mine at about lvl 40, but thankfully whilst inexperienced, I was somewhat competent, and also got carried by 3 greybeards, and it remains my fastest edd time to date at 33mins xD

[gusty grotto]

i was on the last stage of the heartstone on the EDD

im host, and nvidia drivers decide to do what nvidia drivers do and crash

😭 😭 😭

i had a full team tooooo 😭

[spiral badge]

Oof

[low adder]

What union chapter should I join ?

[static lichen]

yes

[ancient cove]

doesn't matter

choose the one you like more, from the color, icon or description

[raven kestrel]

single turret or two turrets on engi for deep dives?

[mellow cradle]

two, always

deep dive or not

this post was sponsored by the shadow wizard meta gang

[raven kestrel]

ive always used two i just wasnt sure if one was better

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[placid musk]

mighty miners

[placid musk]

lucky you, I had to do it with 3 people and it took an hour

my current fastest time is 35 minutes

[austere shoal]

anyone down to run a deep dive?

[wild tapir]

Is drop pod location seeded on deep dives?

[hushed sequoia]

drop pod location is never seeded

depends on where players are/button is pressed

[cunning pond]

It'd be more fun if it was seeded.
Imagine the shenanigans

[hushed sequoia]

*not seeded

(*unless you abuse game mechanics)

[cunning pond]

[prisma kestrel]

how hard are edd compared to normal, do i need an optimised build with overcolcks or can i do one without oc?

[olive flicker]

They're much harder. You can probably do them without OCs if you are good.

Normal deep dives are a walk in the park in comparison.

[cunning pond]

DD: hazard 3
ED: hazard 5

[prisma kestrel]

so if i am able to do a normal deep dive with relative ease then i can propably do elite with help?

[cunning pond]

If you can do haz3 you can do DDs.
If you can do haz5 you can do EDDs

[prisma kestrel]

ok, thanks

[cunning pond]

The actually difficulties for those dives average out to those hazard levels.

So if you can consistent do those hazard levels. You'll be fine for that dive.

Dives get harder every stage you go down. But you should collect nitra each stage to have easier access to ammo.

Hope this helps.

[prisma kestrel]

defo helps thanks a bunch

[cunning pond]

[polar torrent]

i wish DD stage 3 went to h4 instead of keeping at 3.5

[lusty ice]

as long as someone enter the drop pod, the whole team will complete the stage right

[full saddle]

yes

your teammates also return alive at the start of next stage

[foggy holly]

Any tips for stage 3 EDD?

I simply get overwhelmed with enemies swarming the Drilldozer, I can't repair and attack the enemies at the same time

[hushed sequoia]

depends on class

gunner, just throw shield
driller, can throw c4 and should kill most trash enemies attacking it or fear them
scout, cope, try clearing enemies with secondary or use pheromones
engi, secondary / nades

[lusty ice]

thanks!

Can you also reuse Iron Will again if you have used it in a previous stage?

[full saddle]

yep, your iron will resets as does your bosco revives if you're playing solo

certain equipment also resets in ammo, like driller satchels; im not 100% sure what resets and what doesnt but i know satchels do and gunner shields dont

[lusty ice]

Very cool thanks for the clear up

[foggy holly]

Oh, using engineer, any good advices about grenades? I've used the mini drones one, but it feels a little too single target dmg

[mellow cradle]

the shredders can be both single target and swarm clear, depends where you throw them and what they focus on

all of engies nades are great tbh

lures are good for taking aggro off of you and your team, and setting up your secondaries
plasma bursters are mini breach cutter shots for the times when you don't have breach cutter
mines are very good for hold, and have the biggest dmg potential out of all engies nades, but require setup
shredders are very easy to use and they always work

[olive flicker]

Swarm nade is incredibly good upto a certain density.

Engi turret ammo refills between stages too.

[mellow cradle]

correct

[olive flicker]

Swarm nades saved me from a leech once (after being grabbed) and for this reason alone they are mvp

[vague bay]

What's a good load out for driller for the deep dive?

[full saddle]

sticky flames is always good basically all the time, for solo my generic build is vim sludge with epc

basically any good build is also good in deep dives since they're just regular missions really

[vague bay]

ah ty im using Flames with epc

[full saddle]

yeah works fine for sure

[sullen flax]

@midnight birch

Uuh.

[midnight birch]

i'm not a mod, but appreciate the ping

[sullen flax]

Oh.

You aren't?

Damn I thought you were.

Who's a mod I can ping?

[wraith mesa]

sorry everyone

I wa eating while I got hacked

[sullen flax]

Yeah sure.

[wraith mesa]

I didnt have 2 factor authentication

can you please ping the mods to help me remove the links

[sullen flax]

If you were really hacked you wouldn't be having this account anymore. 💀

[wraith mesa]

just believe me bro it those auto send things

[foggy holly]

Thanks for the advices! 🙂 I've been able to complete this EDD, mines were def the way to go for the last stage

[proud coyote]

My tip would be, if you go solo, take the flashy nitrally challenged build, and gather all the nitra so by the time you reach stage 3 you can shoot everything without accounting for saving ammo

I go superfast stubby, fatboy, and twin sentries, I never manage to finish all my resupplies on the last stage but is it fun to nuke everything in sight

[foggy holly]

I was thinking about the fat boy OC, but the problem is that I'm new to the game, so I don't even have that OC lolol

Thnaks nonetheless, seems a good strat for AoE dmg

[proud coyote]

I'm told it's not the best solution and breach cutter is better, I believe them but fatboy works for me

[olive flicker]

Removing the ammo downside on fat boy makes it pretty good choice.

[coral pond]

It just needs a buff to the rad field to justify the ammo cut honestly

[proud coyote]

I like the radfield as it is, a buff to it would also make it more punishing to walk through it

[olive flicker]

I think it's fine as is, everything doesn't need to be the absolute best to be worth using.

[proud coyote]

It's chip damage in an area, when you add shredder grenade and sentries to it, a swarm can get annihilated without me having to look in its general direction

[coral pond]

That's kinda the problem though, cause shredders and turrets are doing that without the fat boy rads too. Lacking standalone kill power with such a huge ammo cut, on already engi's worst secondary, is really rough

[coral pond]

Where did i say anything about it needing to be the best? Even with a buff it's not reaching breach cutter levels of strong. Right now it's strength just doesn't justify the hard ammo cut

[distant flame]

i have yet to do my first deep dive, i dont see many public servers, is solo really do-able or do i just wait

[versed solstice]

@distant flame It is possible to do but be ready for a 2 hr mission

[distant flame]

i know its long, i assumed thats why so few lobbies

ehh ill try it

[versed solstice]

3 different missions packed in to one dive

[coral pond]

You could still solo it in about an hour tbh

[versed solstice]

If ur a veteran

Just train the bugs like zombies and shoot the spitters first

[coral pond]

Regular deep dive is only haz 3, even as a semi new player an hour isn't an impossibility

[copper wagon]

are u not able to do deep dives over and over to get rewards

[coral pond]

Only get the cores once per week from both dd and edd(so a total of 6 cores per week)

Any repeat runs are just credits/xp

[copper wagon]

do u have to complete all 3 stages to get the rewards or do u get the rewards for each stage

[brisk spear]

You get the reward from the stage as soon as you complete it (enter the drop pod at the end), for example if you dont care about the credits and xp and just want the blank core and overclock you could just complete the first two stages and abort once you load into the third

[raven carbon]

What do you mean?

[raven carbon]

Shredders are the easiest to use, just throw and forget it, and they're extremely useful against large numbers of low hp enemies. For example just throw it while going back to the pod and they'll take care of all the small enemies for you.

[raven carbon]

Go breach cutter then

[proud coyote]

Engie turret ammo is automatically refilled between stages, probably a bug but don't fear overusing it - still the worst resource to get refilled between stages as sentry ammo won't carry you through the follow molly part of the mission

[raven carbon]

Damn my engi is platinum promotion and I never noticed this. Will check next time I do a deep dive.

[olive flicker]

Once refining is done and the button to send the rocket is enabled, does the game just start spawning bugs non stop?

[raven carbon]

Yes pretty much

Same for point extraction

[olive flicker]

Noticed it when I left an event to do later but wasn't sure at first.

Hit spawn cap in no time.

[raven carbon]

Yeah you should finish off everything before sending off the minehead

[coral pond]

Refining is a constant swarm once you start the refining, which doesn't end until the mission ends(it might be a break between refining finishing and button pressed but idk for sure)

Point extraction is time based spawn increases until you press the button, of which yeah it's constant spawns until mission over

[distant flame]

it took me about a hour and 20 mins to do

not that bad

i was way to conservitive with nitra lol, i had like 400 at the end since i used as little as i needed

[proud coyote]

Point extraction has a set time left of perma swarm until the end of the mission

If you start the refining and then don't send the rocket, you could be fighting a perma swarm forever

[mild field]

Can you change your mug skin if you get one of the supporter packs?

[shy wigeon]

if i die on the 3 stage - i get rewards for the prev ones right?

[coral pond]

Yes, you'll still have gotten the blank core and weapon oc

[distant flame]

solo elite deep dive done in 1.15 hours

my first ever elite dive, i am SHAKING

bosco with extra revives carried me so hard its insane

[rigid nova]

time for a beer @distant flame

[distant flame]

truely

with that spelling it seems im already drunk

[vocal coral]

You solod an EDD? Sheeeeeesh

[distant flame]

as my first one 😭

[vocal coral]

I thought you meant your first solo, daaaamn. Nice work!

I can't even do them as part of a group, so well done

haha

[distant flame]

a group doesnt have 4 bosco revives per stage to be fair

[proud coyote]

I too fail often as part of a group while solo is almost always flawless victory (first try no downs on this week's edd)

It depends on what the other players bring to the table too

and how good you are at playing as a team

[tall relic]

Solo is probably easier but less fun imo

and most people who do EDDs are generally competent

[tulip pilot]

nope, only one reward per cave

[spiral badge]

Probably why I don’t tend to do EDDs 🤣

A real fear of mine is dragging the team down in a co-op game because I’m not at their level. Solo I don’t care about failing cause then I’m only wasting my own time

[tall relic]

That's fair

Tbh tho as long as you know the role of your class then I wouldn't worry about skill too much

An engi that regularly uses platforms is a lot more valuable than an engi that's a god at combat

[hexed bone]

The fact this is even on your mind likely makes you a more useful teammate than average

[placid musk]

haha no

you try clearing an entire h5.5 swarm as driller

ok it's not that big of a difference tbh but engineer can contribute a huge amount of killing power

[woeful niche]

how about easily

[placid musk]

it turns the driller's job from moderate to easy

[tall relic]

I mean cryo drillers can clear packs of glyphids super easily

[woeful niche]

lol no. Most veins of nitra don’t even need a plat to reach

[placid musk]

i remembered sticky flames and disperser compound exist

also cryo driller is the worst at CC

you either have to pull out your drills or the cooker

[woeful niche]

engineer who uses plats for minerals < engineer who uses bug repellent well

[placid musk]

i don't even run bug repellant

[woeful niche]

bug repellent is by far the best thing engi provides the team in terms of usefulness

[placid musk]

you really don't need to funnel bugs in my experience

[woeful niche]

bug repellent can single handedly turn a location from dog shit to a complete joke

[placid musk]

driller's problem :DDD

[woeful niche]

you don’t “need” anything to beat haz 5. But shields and bug repellent make a massive fucking difference

[woeful niche]

driller can remove bad geometry but he can’t affect bug pathing like engi

iv carried entire uplinks with proxies and bug repellent. It’s really disgusting

[placid musk]

where would repellant be useful

[woeful niche]

literally any mission

[placid musk]

what situation

[woeful niche]

if there is a bug on the map

[placid musk]

....

you are not helping

[woeful niche]

if u can’t understand how creating chokepoints and curtailing bug pathing is helpful i don’t know wtf i can say to convince you

[placid musk]

i usually go double ammo but I switch clip size sometimes for escort

I run fat boy ECR

[woeful niche]

fat boy is dog shit without bug repellent

[placid musk]

i aim wherever bugs spawn and leave the rest to the driller

[woeful niche]

fat boy has no form of slow, bugs can walk around it very easily. Repellent lets you actually make use of the rad field

[placid musk]

i run lure

[coral pond]

i have screenshots of actual repellant advice if you'd like

[placid musk]

and it's not super difficult to gauge where the bugs are going to be going

[woeful niche]

that won’t matter if he thinks affecting bug pathing isn’t useful fundamentally

[placid musk]

it's useful yeah

i just

[woeful niche]

bunching up the bugs and forcing them to take a longer route to them is always insanely useful

i’d argue it’s the only thing actually provides the team (in comparison to other classes)

[placid musk]

run a build that really doesn't need to manipulate bug pathing

[woeful niche]

dude literally every build benefits from it

[coral pond]

ecr and fat definitely benefit from bugs being grouped up close

[placid musk]

i aim at the spawn points

they are naturally grouped up when they spawn

[woeful niche]

fat boy is literally dependent on bugs going through the rad zone

[placid musk]

ecr is just for self defense anyway

[woeful niche]

bugs don’t always spawn at the same location

[placid musk]

there are video cues

the digging animation

• i run googly-eyed glyphids

and radar

[woeful niche]

you can say that the game is easy enough that u don’t need bug repellent, but it’s def insanely strong and the main thing engi provides that other teammates cannot

[placid musk]

the terrain manipulation aspect of platforms are also pretty good

certain magma core runs, weird uplinks, etc

[woeful niche]

no bug repellent plats don’t do anything on uplink

[cunning pond]

I used to always use repellent but now I have this thing called laziness

[placid musk]

i wasn't specifically talking about repellant

just platform usage in general

[woeful niche]

there is no platform use without bug repellent

[placid musk]

what

[woeful niche]

it’s just fall dmg resist

[placid musk]

???

[cunning pond]

What he means is as a defensive measure on the ground

[placid musk]

how do you scale ledges

oh ok

i mean you can also just clog up an entry point for the bugs

[cunning pond]

Like.
Normal plats don't do anything to bugs unless they have repellent

[woeful niche]

plats are just movement. They provide no combat utility outside of that if u don’t have repellant

[placid musk]

if you uplink in a tight space

[woeful niche]

sure but that’s pretty niche

[cunning pond]

I'm gonna do it

bunkers

[placid musk]

platform bunkers???

those are cancer

I can't see shit from under there

[cunning pond]

I mean all you gotta do is dig two feet down and place one above you.

Good for a potty break and definitely not me going afk

[placid musk]

i like contributing to the team

and stealing the driller's job

[cunning pond]

Damn. Playing the game.
I dunno if I can do that.

[tacit jungle]

closing ceiling holes above hacksy and resupplies is very common tho

[olive flicker]

Isn't the other mod choice in that tier just ammo?

[woeful niche]

ye

[olive flicker]

Only time I've run out of ammo on plat gun is trying to get fossils without scout.

[tacit jungle]

That means you aren't using platforms enough. Make some art if you have spares!

Starting to hate bunkers not because of misplaced e-honor but because adequate teams can finish any salvage or black box faster, easier and with less risk than it takes to set up a bunker

like, thanks for wasting ten minutes of my life cheesing something that didn't need it

[burnt sandal]

are you going to post that in every channel ?

[ancient sapphire]

how do i rejoin a deep dive if dc'ed?

[somber basin]

Click your heels together 3 times

[ancient cove]

1. After you get disconnected/crashed, go to the DD/EDD Terminal and find the lobby you were in before (it will be grayed out)
2. Mouse Right-Click on the lobby to open the Steam Profile of the Host.
3. If Host's profile isn't private/invisible etc. there should be a green "Join" button
4. Use the Join button to rejoin the lobby.
   If host's profile is private, you can try to add him as friend.
   Pro Tip: Before joining a lobby for the first time, you can first right-click on it. That way, you don't have to remember which lobby you were in, and if something happens, you already have the host's Steam profile open.

[cunning pond]

And if you're on console?

[ancient cove]

I don't know, I don't have a xbox, but if on the console you can find "recent played with", should also be possible to rejoin over their profile

[cunning pond]

Interesting

In case some console player gets DC'ed I'll remember this

[south storm]

I like platforms on the salvage mini mule missions when your getting the uplinks and that done, it’s often in a pit kind of, so a platform bunker there is useful as it gives a more direct line of fire

[tribal yew]

Does a beer carry over for the entire deep dive, or just the 1st mission of the three?

[mellow cradle]

buff beers work for the entire dive

[tribal yew]

Nice

[proud ferry]

have you guys ever realised that in the intermission between deep dives

the drop pod says they're descending at a speed of 1m/s

[gentle garden]

What's a good mod list for electrifying reload on deepcore?

[coral pond]

21222

[proud saffron]

does the same number of enemy spawn when doing EDD with 2 player or 4 player ?

[candid bobcat]

no, 4 player will cause higher quantity of enemies to spawn

[stray lintel]

whoa sounds very e-honorable of you (I joke bunkers are a waste of time and more often that not aren't actually better terrain than open ground with open sightlines)

think it was only ever "e-honor" before bulks and oppressors existed

[burnt sandal]

the game was vastly different back then though

[stray lintel]

absolutely, my point was mostly there was less the game could do vs bunkers back then

4 years ago bunker did used to reliably make things easy

for a while now, bunkering for something has been the same effort as just doing it, but with more setup and less gameplay

[lyric shoal]

What does Status: online mean

in the menu

[austere quiver]

anyone elite deep dive?

[tulip idol]

There's a server behind the selection of assignments and deep dives

[naive tendon]

how do I rejoin a deep dive if I lost connection? I heard someone say you can

or do I just cry and sob and weep

tragic

given up'eth

[pliant yoke]

Find the previous host's profile through Steam overlay --> Players tab

[naive tendon]

don't know where a players tab on the stream overlay is

tragic

only see friends

[pliant yoke]

Open the overlay. Pick the left-most icon on the icon bar ("Game overview")

At the bottom of newly opened overlay window there should be a "Players" tab, which you can expand

This is where you should be able to find that person

[naive tendon]

ah I see

don't see anything about rejoining though

rip

just add friend

[pliant yoke]

Go to their profile

Then press (I think) a green button that reads "Join game"

[naive tendon]

yeah don't see anything tragic

guess I'm soloing xd

[mystic breach]

What is deep dive

[pliant yoke]

https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Deep_Dives

Help yourself

tldr; three missions in a row with non-volatile resources (Nitra) when passing through consecutive stages, with mandatory side-objectives that usually consist of typical main objective paramateres of different mission types

They award you matrix cores, one for each completed stage

[cunning pond]

Deep Dives.
Mission that you access from the Deep Dive terminal upon promoting at least once with that class.

They are a string of 3 missions which you do back to back. You even keep the nitra you collect between missions.
Completing one mission will earn you a matrix core for either weapon overclocks or cosmetics.

Deep Dive missions contain the same caves meaning you can do a deep dive 3 times and find out you're doing the same 3 missions in a row because they are seeded.

3 missions means 3 matrix cores.

There are two types of deep dives.
Normal and Elite.

Normal Deep dives average to hazard level 3 and Elite ones average to hazard level 5.

Two dives (normal, elite) a week means 6 cores a week from dives.

Minerals do not spawn in dives.

Each mission will have two primary objectives. There are no optional secondary objectives.

[mystic breach]

I see you get overclocking from them
do u get more from Elite?

[naive tendon]

pretty sure it's the same rewards, just lets you get 3 more cores, a blank, weapon, and cosmetic one

[cunning pond]

You get 3 cores from both dives.

1 blank core which you need to turn into a weapon core or a cosmetic by first: completing a machine event, then inserting your blank core into the completed machine event to choose your reward (as stated. A weapon or cosmetic core. You get 3 options.)

1 random weapon core (across all weapons and classes)

1 random cosmetic core (across all classes)

It all rather complicated sounding if you're fed the information all at once with no visual or idea what this would play like in game. But I figured I'd tell you the whole process since you asked.

[naive tendon]

I am the tldr

xd

[cunning pond]

The tldr is:

Elite dives have the same exact rewards as normal dives.
But since you can only get rewards from dives 1 time per week.

Doing both the normal and elite dives will get you twice the reward.

[mystic breach]

machine event is random?

[mystic breach]

wait so overclocks are time gated to 2 per week?

...per class right?

[naive tendon]

no

[mystic breach]

Also im sure Deep dive rewards are many and doing more deep dives will give things like XP, Resources no?

[naive tendon]

you can get them by promoting

[cunning pond]

There are 5 ways to get Matrix Cores.

1. The weekly Core Hunt Assignment
2. Deep Dive
3. Elite Deep Dive
4. Promoting a dwarf
5. Machine events (Requires a blank core)

Every event gives
1 Blank Core
1 random Weapon Core
1 random Cosmetic

Except Machine events which take 1 black core and in exchange makes it into a weapon OR cosmetic core.

Putting a blank core into a machine event shows you 3 options.

2 weapon cores and 1 cosmetic core.

You CHOOSE which one you want.

Because you can get Matrix cores from promotion.
Getting cores is not technically time gated.

However deep dives and the weekly core hunt assignment can only be done once per week.

For a total of
3+3+3 = 9 cores a week.
For both Cosmetics and weapon cores.

If you only care about weapon cores then its 6 per week

Not including promotions*****

[mystic breach]

promotion leveling takes too long anyway

[cunning pond]

Before the promotion core update.

Getting Cores was actually time locked to 9 cores a week with no work arounds (except glitches) so its the fastest its ever been to Obtain cores

[mystic breach]

it still is
leveling takes forever

[mellow cradle]

besides the cores, deep dives and elite deep dives give a large amount of credits and exp

crafting resources don't spawn in them though, unless you get a huuli hoarder

[olive flicker]

Just go with the 9 cores a week, knowing it's a bit faster than that.

[cunning pond]

I can do 1 promo a week easy.
But also I may play too much DRG

[mystic breach]

you do
way too much
i ave like 3h a day to play games if im not busy which is qutie a bit

you can find yourself with a lot more free time after you divorce lmao

[zenith ember]

fellow early addict

im burnt out tho

[olive flicker]

What are some dread/elim loadouts for engi?
Exec lok? Cycle warthog?
Hyperprop? Breach cutter? I've seem some shards too in pubs.

[cunning pond]

I can do 3 promos a week if I didn't have work and classes.

[olive flicker]

I rarely run engi for elim.

[cunning pond]

Did that back in the day.
They didn't have cores for promos back then

[zenith ember]

my goto for engi is exe loki/hyperprop

which is pretty bad when swarms comes in

[cunning pond]

ECR/HP
Exe/Breach
CO/RJ250

This is what I like using in general

For Elim Specifically I like Exe/Overdrive Booster if I'm feeling.
Extra spicy that day

😋

Otherwise Hyper Prop is way more consistent...

[olive flicker]

I level all my classes equally and engi is a few levels behind so I'm going to run everything on engi for a bit.

Hyperprop build is just ammo ammo incendiary and spiky I'm assuming?

Asking because I didn't know incendiary was broken ans maybe the other stuff is too.

[cunning pond]

Man its like 3 am and I ima be honest I forgor

[zenith ember]

incinty hyper on elim is bad

you are screwing your cryo driller over

[olive flicker]

I'm not expecting a cryo driller to be there.

So non issue.

[mellow cradle]

go 21212

for more damage

[cunning pond]

Isn't fire bad on elim in general

[mellow cradle]

since dreads can't be ignited

[cunning pond]

The fire resist on big bugs is crazy

[olive flicker]

Why armour break?

[olive flicker]

It's just free damage in that tier with hp.

[mellow cradle]

tye incen mod doesn't add fire damage, it deals heat

and you can't ignite dreads, so you get nothing

so you take armor break, because the incen mod disables randomized damage, and the faster projectile speed migh cause your projectile to be so fast it clips through enemies as client

and armor break can be useful on the twins

[olive flicker]

Wdym randomised damage?

[mellow cradle]

homebrew mod

[olive flicker]

Oh proj speed does that? That might explain the inconsistency I was seeing.

[olive flicker]

Huh, pgl weird.

[mellow cradle]

yeah

[cunning pond]

PGL is weird yes

[mellow cradle]

btw, the armor break doesn't work properly, even on hyperprop

as in, the projectile won't deal full damage if it breaks the armor plate (it should)

[zenith ember]

Just know that all 3 mods are bad against dreads, with armor break affecting only twins but its calculated as AoE

[olive flicker]

lmao

[zenith ember]

Honestly u can take off that tier if you want for elim, prob wont make much of a difference

[mellow cradle]

yeah, lol

[olive flicker]

I've seen one engi repeatedly use spinning death on elim.

[zenith ember]

Its better than fat boy i guess?...

[olive flicker]

I ran lok + hyperprop once and hiveguard spikes were a pain.

[zenith ember]

Od shard is also good if you would rather, i would prefer minimal casing breach over spinning too

[olive flicker]

Spinning sounds like a lot of effort.

[zenith ember]

Nah just let the gunner or scout deal w that phase

Or manually tap lok lol

[burnt sandal]

if you can keep the dread in the spinning laser, it does pretty well

[zenith ember]

Unsmart the smart smg

[olive flicker]

I always assume solo.

And single tapping it was ass, to put it mildly.

[coral pond]

Idk why this is such a big deal

[cunning pond]

Because elements are important when it comes to drillers game plan

[coral pond]

Like honestly, if you find some way to screw over your cryo driller with incendiary hyperprop on elim, that's 100% a skill issue on your part

Cause you can just not fire until it's frozen

[olive flicker]

Dreads stay frozen for such a short time anyways yea.

[cunning pond]

Well its their problem for bringing cryo on elimination

[coral pond]

Cryo is great on elim for teams

[olive flicker]

Unless you've planned before hand it's not worth bringing cryo into elim.

[cunning pond]

I 10000000% don't trust drillers to use cryo on elimination

[olive flicker]

Never in pubs basically.

[cunning pond]

I only play pubs

[coral pond]

This whole "incendiary hyper prop bad cause cryo" is such a bs mindset though

[olive flicker]

Vim + pimples is much easier.

[burnt sandal]

just bring ice storm in elim so freezing don't matter too much

[cunning pond]

Yeah VIM is good sight for me.

If my driller is using VIM.
It'll be a smooth elim

[olive flicker]

You get double triple slow and solid damage while ignoring armour.

[coral pond]

Honestly, a more valid argument to not run incendiary hyper prop on elim is the fact that dreads have insane fire resist

[cunning pond]

I already said this so I'm on board

[coral pond]

And since homebrew is bugged to never low roll on hyper prop now, just take that and don't take a t3 mod

[manic pivot]

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Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[burnt sandal]

I mean, it doesn't matter since they can't ignite and the heat mod doesn't reduce HP damage

so the mod is here for everything else but the dread

[coral pond]

True

[mellow cradle]

140% damage better

[raven carbon]

ECR Lok1 for swarms and overdrive shard diffractor for dreads

Overdrive is really flexible because you can use diffractor as is with no downsides on a praetorian for example without draining your mag with overdrive

[mystic breach]

is Deep dive XP faster than spamming T3 Mining expeditions?

[mellow cradle]

spamming double exp missions will definitely be faster than dives

not to mention you'll get more resources from regular missions

[burnt sandal]

depend entirely on your speed

[woeful niche]

imo dd tends to be faster but not always better xp due to morkite missions containing events and boss enemies that don’t spawn in dds

[pseudo shell]

Check pins

Gets update weekly when they come out

[quasi sleet]

yeah the pins in #deep-dive-discussion tell you all the missions in the deep dives

[mystic breach]

then the answer is no
its XP/time ratio

[exotic citrus]

Oh... Bruh dumb question then sorry 😅

[pseudo shell]

Nah it happens mate

[signal leaf]

ive completed a total of 2 deep dives and never go above haz 3 yall think i can complete a EDD

[tiny portal]

Try a haz5 mission first I guess

Or get carried by greybeards

EDD is haz 4.5-5-5.5

[raven carbon]

Edd is significantly harder than dd or haz3

[signal leaf]

havent unlocked haz5 yet

[raven carbon]

Not really, no events, no minerals, warnings

[signal leaf]

ive tried to unlock haz5 to some terrible results

[raven carbon]

Haz5 unlock assignment is on haz4 iirc

Edd is going to be harder than that

[signal leaf]

im sure it'll be fine

[mellow cradle]

depends who you'll play with

[signal leaf]

bosco

also i might want to wait for next one cause its magma core

[olive flicker]

He'll carry you no worries.

[mellow cradle]

yeah...

[normal comet]

does the drilldozer make 1 or 2 pitstops?

[trim moss]

Depend on the mission

[meager coral]

usually 2

from my experience atleast

[normal comet]

i mean on the elite deep dive, my bad

[junior cove]

Only one

[normal comet]

hell yea

thanks

[fading sierra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/647917444861788191/1133844257640304679/image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/647917444861788191/1133844355740868638/image.png

holy fug first one ever

ive been trying for a long time

rock and stone

[olive flicker]

[broken palm]

How to start pickaxe overcharge sprinkler

[mellow cradle]

you need a trillite key, which is given to you after you promote your first dwarf

[gusty plank]

What’s is best for mini gun

[mellow cradle]

Leadstorm and Burning Hell are the most popular and best picks I'd say

[coral pond]

Bullet Hell is also a great pick

[sharp tundra]

Here’s to hoping for a more fun Edd tomorrow

[mellow cradle]

let's go for magma core third time in a row

[spiral badge]

How do you even do a dive but not have the key? 🤔

[mellow cradle]

they didn't do a dive, they just asked here because drg chat is too fast

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[worn hamlet]

wytf

[dense sage]

[magic canopy]

I’m trying to figure out how to play haz 5/elite deep dives. I usually play as scout but can play as any class except engineer. Any suggestions?

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[mellow cradle]

keep moving, keep jumping

[thick sapphire]

yeah just keep moving

[magic canopy]

Last time I tried haz 5 I beat it but constantly had an entire swarm on me and it was the shortest mission I could find

Though it was my very first haz 5

[mellow cradle]

did you play scout?

[magic canopy]

Yes

[mellow cradle]

that might have been why

[magic canopy]

I’m presuming they’re not all that viable for haz 5 combat?

[mellow cradle]

scout isn't the greatest at swarm clear without fire bolts, double barrel with ifg, or aggresive venting

if you were solo

[magic canopy]

I’ve found scout really good up to haz 4 but I can still play driller or gunner.

[thick sapphire]

even on haz5 I feel like if you know how to move around with your class and don't make any mistakes you can survive for quite a while, at least until you run out of ammo and maybe even after that

the complication is when you actually need to get the objectives done

can't really kite the bugs all around the map while the rest of your team is down and fuel cells are going

or doretta is dorettaing

[magic canopy]

It was solo, would compact feed valves be good for haz 5 driller?

[mellow cradle]

compact feed valves are good

a nice ammo overclock

[magic canopy]

I’m thinking of combining that with fire damage up subata with extended mag

[mellow cradle]

I guess you could

[magic canopy]

I feel like once I get more comfortable in haz 5 I could start doing elite deep dives

[mellow cradle]

usually when I go with a cc crispr built for sticky flames, I go either pp epc tcf or temp shock cwc

[brave lynx]

anyone still need to do their deepdives?

[signal oriole]

Had this happen during the final stage of my deep dive haha

https://imgur.com/a/QnFyzpI

I had to pause to take a moment to comprehend what happened 🤣

[dense sage]

10/10 aim

[tulip idol]

You can spam those with anim cancel and with a chance they block a fireball

[quasi zodiac]

looks like roller aim

[short bloom]

I think this must the first instance of a video game I've ever seen where you block fireballs with grenades

I also wanna finish an edd by myself, I might not have enough experience yet

[tulip idol]

Sticky nades and axes are the only grenades that can block other projectiles

[torpid sonnet]

fd

[marsh gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126591085737676800/1133999678803951737/image.png

just finished my first edd, rock and stone brother!

[cunning pond]

Solo??

GG

[olive flicker]

My man out here using bosco revives to the fullest.

Wins a win though.

[ancient cove]

Probably Iron Will as well.
I run it solo too, mainly because I barly play solo and too lazy to switch, but I still think Iron Will is a must have perk.

I mean for Hazard 5+

4 hours left until new Deep Dive rotation, if someone in middle Europe needs help with any DD, I'm open to jump in.

[woeful niche]

dash is much more important

[ancient cove]

I use both. Unless Scout

[spiral badge]

I’d have to do the Molly bunker trick to be able to solo EDD most likely

[olive flicker]

Nah, the run back is really easy so long as you make sure you create a way back whatever terrain you traverse. Which is something you more or less automatically do unless you are engi jumping onto platforms.

[olive flicker]

You get what 3-4? revives per stage through bosco, really don't feel the need for 1 more.

[ancient cove]

But isn't it only possible with Engi?

[olive flicker]

Wait aren't drop pods seeded in dd?

[ancient cove]

no

They have the same logic

[spiral badge]

Yeah

[olive flicker]

You have a ton of nitra solo too.

[ancient cove]

I personally can't play solo. Love the coop part too much. If I play a mission solo, I just want to get through it as fast as possible.

[spiral badge]

I like both but find myself playing solo most of the time. Something peaceful about you, Bosco and molly

[full saddle]

i like solo a lot because my internet isnt very good and especially on deep dives i dont want to get owned and not be able to reconnect lmao

also bosco is my best friend

[spiral badge]

Super useful for high up minerals

[olive flicker]

I do it solo so I can pause. Also dd pubs are very rare.

[ancient cove]

in Europe DD are fine, full all the time. EDD become rarer lastly.
Have to wait up to 10min to get the lobby full for EDD

Depending on the day time

[winged marlin]

If you do the deep dive twice do you get the cores twice or just once?

[mellow cradle]

once

but you do get exp and credits every time

but I wouldn't bother with that either

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[sly kettle]

Soon™

[karmic sundial]

Mashallah soon

[obtuse comet]

soon

[woeful niche]

i’d rather have field medic if i’m with newer players. And if i’m with experienced players, iron will isn’t necessary

[karmic sundial]

1 minute boys

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[karmic sundial]

Yay

[royal oak]

Good luck gamers

[ivory marten]

What are the biomes, lads?

[royal oak]

R&S

[karmic sundial]

Dense biozone

[obtuse comet]

ugh

why magma core

[karmic sundial]

Trolling

First DD is 3 mules and 2 eggs

with regen bug

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone.

[candid bobcat]

Weekly Deep Dives information for 2023-07-27 to 2023-08-03.
Deep Dives will reset <t:1691060400:R>

DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Scout's Abyss
Stage 1: 3 Mini-mules + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 2: 200 Morkite + Twins | No Mutator
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 2 Mini-mules | Elite Threat

ELITE DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Forbidden Fangs
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Classic + Twins) + 2 Eggs | Low Oxygen
Stage 2: 3 Mini-mules + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Classic + Twins) + 2 Eggs | Swarmageddon

[steep tartan]

"scout's abyss". Forboding name

[candid bobcat]

This information was collected automatically with a blueprint mod, let me know if any of the stages are incorrect.

[ivory marten]

That is... disappointing.

So... Biozone.

hm

[steep tartan]

lol, stage 3 is a reversed stage 1

[ivory marten]

oh my god it is.

[steep tartan]

also, mules and eggs and elite, that's a LOT of spawn triggers

[ivory marten]

Twins

Pain.

[steep tartan]

there was a mules + eggs mission last week I think and that was an assload of fighting

6 eggs that will probably include at least 2 swarms, 2 mule swarms and possibly 2 leg mini-swarms

and the elite also has mules + eggs

lol

eggs everywhere

I guess management REALLY wants to ake the mother of all omelets

[karmic sundial]

EDD just the same thing

lol

[earnest jacinth]

EDD really enjoys being in the magma core, huh?

[mellow cradle]

EDD boss rush

[mellow cradle]

jinx

[tawny egret]

EDD 3rd week in a row in magma core

💀

[real pike]

Oml magma core edd again

[frail pecan]

i dont think its updated yet in the pinned one

[candid bobcat]

yes, this week's EDD is still in magma core.

[hollow citrus]

m m m m mag mag mag

[unique plover]

Someone should probably pin the new deep dives info

[mellow cradle]

one person edits the current pin

[zenith ember]

thats 1 fked up edd stage 3, swarm + dreads

[mellow cradle]

ecr for the swarmers, hyperprop for the dreads

ez

[stray bane]

where are the new deep dives at

[karmic sundial]

what does that mean?

[eager flame]

Shit i'm late

[ivory marten]

Dive time.

Wish me luck.

[eager flame]

Should be updated now

Damn, double dread stages

[karmic sundial]

and i finished dd

Not gonna do EDD with fuckin low oxygen dreadnought

[ivory marten]

That sounds like HELL

[cunning pond]

This is what happens when we don't do our weekly pray for no magma core

[full saddle]

sorry ive been doing my weekly prayer for magma core

[mellow cradle]

eh, it's just the first stage

[cunning pond]

🫵