deep-dive-discussion

[slate stump]

aquarqs 😩

[mellow cradle]

egg

[static lichen]

egg

[blissful elk]

🥚

[eager flame]

egg

[real pike]

Egg

[wraith shard]

Did the Deep Dives not reset today?

[candid bobcat]

info is already updated, so it did reset, you may have to restart your game if it shows negative timer or have not reset locally

[steel python]

Egg dive

[eager flame]

Making a mother of all omellettes here jack

[tranquil gull]

[worthy bolt]

does the previous EDD
stage 3
uses VIM and CWC blister OC
still dies to the air force
maybe TCF was needed after all
(solo btw)

[mellow cradle]

you didn't really have any tool for mactera there

[full saddle]

you can sort of finagle your way out of MP with that setup if you create overhangs to funnel the mactera in, also take advantage of bosco cryo rockets but yeah id take tcf 100% of the time in MP

[mellow cradle]

I guess you can also chuck stun c4 into the air

[full saddle]

yeah that works very well actually

i did it last week to pretty good success

and axes are of course always nice

[worthy bolt]

well i did used some bunkers during the relay and refueling

[dark umbra]

are the twins on stage 3 EDD normal or was I just unlucky?

[worthy bolt]

but the existance of big enemies such as oppresors

[full saddle]

if they were a horde call, its just unlucky

[worthy bolt]

cant literally make me go outside

[mellow cradle]

random spawn

F

[full saddle]

yeah i dont really bunker ever on hold objectives in solo if i can help it

i dont like bunkering in general but the lost of maneuvaribility when you dont have great burst options can be pretty rough re: oppressors

and stingtails can ocassionally sneak into your bunker and own you epic style which is kind of funny

[worthy bolt]

thankfully i just went outside to kill those two

and then running my ass in again onto the bunker

[full saddle]

lmao yeah

[polar torrent]

why is there a BET-C on stage 2 of the normal dive lmao

[mellow cradle]

she can appear

that means everyone has a chance to get her on that stage

just like with nemesis

[full saddle]

just occured to me, is korlok possible in deep dives?

[mellow cradle]

never happened to me

[full saddle]

me neither

i also am not sure ive ever seen a crassus

[mellow cradle]

korlok gives you a reward, and so does the crassus

nemesis and betc do not

so maybe that's why they don't appear

[full saddle]

that makes a lot of sense actually

presumably harold can also not appear

[mellow cradle]

yeah, on the same principal

[delicate saffron]

Regular deep dive with 3 secondary egg hunts lmaooooo

I really wish repeating objectives consecutively like that was just not allowed

EDD looks fun but that DD was so boring

[copper cedar]

5 of the 6 missions between DD and EDD have egg hunt lol

[round mountain]

Mission control really craving some glyphid omelettes it seems

[frozen wing]

What’s the deep dive missions today

[candid bobcat]

see pinned

[frozen wing]

Thx

[tardy radish]

stage 3 edd was crazy

massive intro swarm overlapped with swarmmageddon + someone woke up bet-c on accident

[round mountain]

Yeah, it was tough, I got mactera swarms on top of all that too

absolute chaos

[placid musk]

very hard but not unfair

enjoyed carrying a bunch of greenbeards

ntp needs more nerfs

[mellow cradle]

the executioner rounds spawning out of my barrel:

[nocturne tiger]

Whats ntp?

[placid musk]

neurotoxin payload

[pliant yoke]

I’d argue that AC has to just become a better weapon in general to compete

[tardy radish]

went a lot smoother on the second run

got 0 downs the entire EDD

idk why i haven't before but i began to bunnyhop with zhukovs and that made elite slashers a lot easier to deal with that second stage since they can't catch up to me while i'm shooting, and i don't need to needlessly kite them

[sharp tundra]

There’s 3 hazards on the elite deep dive?

[mellow cradle]

yes

it goes 4.5, 5, 5.5

[sharp tundra]

No I meant warning

[mellow cradle]

yeah, there are three: lethal enemies, elite threat, and swarmageddon

[worldly root]

where can i find the terms of use to read it so i can use mods?

[blissful elk]

3rd attempt at EDD with a 2nd team of randoms

failed at stage 3 again. once again someone triggered bet-c just as a swarm happened and it screwed us over

[sharp tundra]

Lmao isn’t that the start

[blissful elk]

Yes but the start is already chaotic

[zenith ember]

Wow three way threat

Ig u can cheese stage 2 fast if the team know what to do

[blissful elk]

I'm seeing a pattern basically. Rough start that goes on long enough not long before the first swarm, and that's often when someone triggers bet-c trying to get to one of the morkite wells

And because it's haz 5.5 bet-c downs half the team. All 3 attempts had stages 1 and 2 smooth, it's on 3 that goes south with bet-c and swarm combo

[sharp tundra]

Ikr

And the swarms are frequent af for some reason

[olive flicker]

High haz bet-c is spooky.

That's a lotta eggs

[jovial garden]

Alien omelets

[zenith ember]

yeah edd betc is an issue

but nothing much after defeating it

had 1 on stage 1 (didnt trigger) and stage 3, alot of reserves from 1&2 helped alot for spamming resup for hp

[blissful elk]

4th attempt. this time a friend and two high levels joined us

Failed. Stage 3

[placid musk]

I first tried it with 3 greenies

[blissful elk]

i give up

i have skill issue

[placid musk]

resupply spam is the way to go

also ntp carry

[blissful elk]

someone was doing that and we still died

[zenith ember]

def need to spam resup

[sacred acorn]

I didnt even have bet-c on stage 3

[zenith ember]

the guns kills off half your hp lol

points at you - 50%

[placid musk]

we almost wiped to an egg swarm + a leg swarm on stage 2

but i clutched it

[zinc dew]

solod both of them today in exactly 40:51 on regular and elite, that's a first time seeing them line up perfectly

[spiral badge]

R&D are trying a different egg to bacon ratio again

[ivory marten]

"Oh boy I can't wait to do the deep dive!"

Hollow Bough

Fuck that noise

[sudden mirage]

DD and EDD back to back no deaths wooo

[sudden mirage]

literally what i was like LMAO

[hollow wasp]

hollow bough best biome fr

[worthy patio]

Solo EDD this week is tough as nails

[blissful elk]

I did it

Did EDD solo

That was really rough I've never done one solo

So many swarmers

I was actually lucky because instead of spawning next to a well like in previous attempts, bet-c spawned on a ledge near the ceiling so she was never triggered

[zinc dew]

congrats!

weird how you had betc on stage 3 every time, I got her stage 1 solo

[blissful elk]

I got her in stage 1 and 3 every time

Also I should have brought fire bolts instead of bodkins because I forgot to change so those swarmers were really painful

[zinc dew]

took gunner with coil gun so I used trails for swarmers a lot

[blissful elk]

Yes I used AISE and bodkins. Don't be like me

That was a terrible idea

I spent an embarrassing amount of time on stage 3 alone...

[zinc dew]

swarmers can make simple missions last a long time

[blissful elk]

It turned a refinery mission into running between resupply pods spread around the map while Bosco builds pipes lol

But yeah, big props to anyone who manages to pull this week's EDD off. It's the hardest one I've done since I started doing them.

[solemn hollow]

oh boy maybe i should solo this one

[dapper arch]

I've still got uncovered arm queued up and looking for mates, but dont know how the invite system works on the LFG channel

[solemn hollow]

click the + icon just to the left of where you type your message

[dapper arch]

I guess i havent assigned my platform yet, ill have to figure that out

[solemn hollow]

are you on steam? not sure if discord integration works on other platforms

[dapper arch]

yea im on steam and i just connected it to discord but i still see no plsu sign in chat bar

does the link work with deep dives ?

im currently running last nights deep dive in queue "uncovered arm" is it an illegitimate mission now?

[solemn forge]

Done my first successful solo edd. 2nd stage I had 2 swarms layered ontop if eachother which was fun.

[sharp tundra]

I mean it could’ve been worse. This one benefits from retries with refinery and all. And the first two missions are not too bad just gotta go fast.

Also this one gave tons of nitra if u took the first mission a little slow

Got around like 460 nitra first mission?

[delicate saffron]

had so many mactera this edd

[quick ember]

hostin EDD pod 8 lvl 100+ please

[alpine parcel]

I’m new to deep dives, does elite deep dive give rewards if I’ve already done the normal one this week?

[full saddle]

yeppers

[heady gate]

Have you ever do an EDD and god decided to just give you an Elite Bulk Detonator?

[spiral badge]

Not elite but I did get a regular bulk on stage 2 of my DD solo last night, and it scrubbed that whole run because I also ran out of ammo right then (including drill fuel) and had to play cat and mouse with it in tunnels while trying to get to an open area so I could call a resup. Blew all my Bosco revives on it 😕

[burnt sandal]

how did you run out of ammo on a solo deep dive ?

there's alreasy so much extra nitra for team of 4 so in solo ?

were you just not mining the nitra ?

I'm genuinely curious

[stable sable]

I think I had 7 resupplies up on my solo DD yesterday during caretaker lol

[burnt sandal]

wait

I misread

I'm dumb

don't mind me

[lament coral]

i got 1000 kills on the edd as sticky flames driller

it was nuts

[spiral badge]

@burnt sandal I just didn’t pay attention to my ammo after starting stage 2 is all

[worldly root]

anyone having this error aswell? https://imgur.com/PT1NGgO

cant seem to join any lobby

[polar torrent]

steam is having a stroke

[worldly root]

fuck

is there anyway i can focus to get specific overclocks or is it purely luck?

[polar torrent]

completely random

[worldly root]

i mean, " oh make this assingment and get this overclock "

oh okay

[polar torrent]

but with machine events, you can at least choose which class gets the next OC

[maiden dew]

Hieeeee

I promoted for the first time yesterday and planned on tossin myself into a Deep Dive today
I figured I should perhaps ask if there are fellas willin to help a Greenbeard out perhaps

I know nothin about Deep Dives I just assume they're harder than Normal Missions and as such I should prolly assemble A Team rather than throw myself in blindly

[dense sage]

if you can handle haz3 you’ll do fine on the regular dd (haz progression goes 3-3.5-3.5) with some resource management (since your nitra and ammo carry over between stages)

[dense vessel]

EDD was insane

Luckily I got it done with some highly skilled randos

[maiden dew]

Oh oki !

[tall relic]

No spoilers but is the EDD harder than last week?

Didn't think last week was insanely difficult but that Point Extraction was rough

[zenith ember]

not really?

[dense vessel]

It’s pretty bad

[blissful elk]

It's much harder imo

[zenith ember]

honestly aside from the extra bosses its just regular missions as long as you have good swarm clear

[dense vessel]

imo it’s consistently more hard

[blissful elk]

Stage 3 particularly

[dense vessel]

Didn’t quite reach the height of difficulty of stage 3 last week

[blissful elk]

1 and 2 are easy but something about stage 3 kept screwing over all my teams

[dense vessel]

But it’s rough in all three stages if you don’t wipe out the swarms quickly

[tall relic]

Sweet

Last week was a blast, I'm up for another challenge

[zenith ember]

i still feel the stage 3 swarms are overblown

the swarmers are just numbers with a non sludge driller or decent engi

[dense vessel]

I think people just don’t know how to deal with swarmers or don’t bring CC

[zenith ember]

hell gunners eat them up too + shields

[dense vessel]

Even Scout with Agressive Venting can clear Swarmers (that’s what I used)

[zenith ember]

yeah

[blissful elk]

It's the small space and bet-c that makes it hard imo

Combine that with swarmageddon and a haz 5.5 swarm and it's easy to get overwhelmed even with good cc. Others have mentioned having to spam resups because of how hard bet-c hits. Even a good team can be taken off guard

[zenith ember]

thats the only problem in that stage

past that there isnt anything much

and im not sure if betc spawns the same place with same well locations but its very possible that you can just ignore it as long as no one is using some ricochet bullets that triggers it

[blissful elk]

"there isnt anything much"
me who still struggled like crazy without bet-c

Bet-c doesn't always spawn at the well

[zenith ember]

how?

overwhelmed by speed?

[blissful elk]

Didn't take a good build to deal with swarmers

Forgot to switch lol

[zenith ember]

lmao then why are u quoting me

[blissful elk]

Because it was still painful to do so it still feels like I'm being put down lmao

But to be real, a team that knows what's coming up and plans appropriately can do it, it's just my first team that tried twice weren't particularly good, and 2nd and 3rd teams quit after failing

[zenith ember]

your experience is still valid

you got pain due to lack of swarm clear in the team, prob not just you

also you can try to pipe surf to kill the wave

since riding is faster

[blissful elk]

Yea even though I didn't take anything to deal with the swarmers, I was still expecting to have to fight bet-c so I spammed resups all over the map, then it was a game of running between them to heal/resup while slowly wittling down waves and putting down pipes when it's clear. Fortunately the wells were all close and the morkite wasn't hard to find

Then it was riding pipes and using the broken pipes to distract glyphids and take advantage of the max swarm size

It definitely would have been easier if I brought fire bolts instead of picking off swarmers with aise and cryo nades lol

[maiden dew]

Right !

I would like to request some assistance with my Deep Dive if possible !
I set my Lobby to Public thinkin someone would eventually join like normal, however, nobody is joining !

Bosco is out of Revives, I used up my Iron Will, there is both an Oppressor and a Praetorian, I am entirely out of grenades and ammo except for my Turret !

I cannot find any Nitra

[zenith ember]

oh you are the scout rip

[maiden dew]

I am the Engineer actually

[zenith ember]

was replying to smaul

[maiden dew]

Oh my b

Ah wait I have made an incredible mistake I realize only now that you cannot invite people during an Active Deep Dive

It seems I have dug a grave for myself

[zenith ember]

was about say that yeah

cant join mid game

[maiden dew]

Incredibly unfortunate

I suppose I will see if I can end up findin just one more Nitra Vein while not dying and hope Bosco and the Turret can take care of the Big Boys

Update: I have somehow singlehandedly killed an Oppressor using nothing but my pickaxe

[bitter abyss]

Just finished elite deep dive. Third stage is a bit of a pain. Has jet boots though and someone reminded me that you can use them to ignite enemies below you, like swarmers

Really helps to save ammo

[maiden dew]

Update: I have died to an Acid Spitter

[royal karma]

[balmy stone]

My team used fire and it worked great

Got it on my first try

If you don’t have good cc or mobility, the last edd stage is a nightmare. I put up like 20 zips and used the pipes to line up enemies for hellfire

Dash also came in clutch

[spiral badge]

Good to know as I also need that

[rare dawn]

this week edd is pure hell

[thick sapphire]

stabilzing stage 3 at the start is pretty tough

when your team is too green

[plush lichen]

No its not that bad. On site refining is BS tho ngl

Plus 2 BetCs?

[thick sapphire]

on two attempts we died before we could defeat the bet-c

[plush lichen]

Thank god my entire team was 3 legendaries and me with gold promo

But I am prepped to do a greenbeard team too, I got an idea of how to do it

[thick sapphire]

at some point i should give up trying to revive teammates and just try to defeat the betc lol

when all my teammates have like ~20 downs each >_<

[blissful elk]

I tried with a team consisting of two legendaries and one gold. We died on stage 3 and everyone left after that

[rare dawn]

stage 1 wasnt that bad

but 2 and 3 was rough for us

[rare dawn]

this was me and my team

we all had like at least 6 downs

[thick sapphire]

also the fact that there's like 4 praetorians as soon as the door oepns

[rare dawn]

i felt like im not that great either because im like rank 57 and felt like i was being carried stage 2

[rare dawn]

we had so much macteras, im pretty sure the majority of our downs were macteras

[thick sapphire]

yeah lots of macteras on stages 2 and 3

[rare dawn]

and sometimes its conflicting because i was running engie laser as secondary and our driller was running freeze

sometimes we'd inadvertently get in the way of one another's work

[thick sapphire]

on my second attempt for some reason i didn't have born ready selected

had thorns/resupplier/vampire when playing missile barrage gunner

thorns wasn't bad given swarmageddon but i don't think i really need it that badly with that kind of weapon

i'm on the fence with vampire as well tbh

like it doesn't do much besides let me iron will and power attack a grunt to stay alive

and if everything goes to shit i can just make sure there's a resupply

nitra isn't really a problem this edd

[rare dawn]

im so glad nitra was abundant in this one

thorns didnt feel that helpful because a lot of times i get down from mactera and elite enemies

[thick sapphire]

yeah, and even in stage 3 swarmageddon it's usually too many swarmers to rely on thorns to kill them lol

if you're not just killing them all with your weapons you're going to take a lot of damage anyways

[rare dawn]

also haz 5 swarmers just does so much dmg that tanking it is a no go

[thick sapphire]

at least no shield disrupt this time

yeah after playing a bunch of high haz, thorns really feels like a low haz crutch

which i guess is why you can unlock it early

[rare dawn]

last week edd felt somewhat better than this week

shield disruption on the stage 2 was alright because you can speed run it

[thick sapphire]

for this one stage 1 seems pretty easy even with lethal enemies, the low grav helps with kiting grunts and stuff, stage 2 isn't too bad either despite elite

[rare dawn]

also idk if it was just a difference in teammate but last week the swarms didnt feel that big

[red harness]

what's with the elite mactera swarms

[rare dawn]

sometimes, its really just mactera plague

[thick sapphire]

as long as your team can manage haz5 swarms with elites mixed in, stage 2 is pretty straightforward

stage 3 seems tough due to lots of bugs at the spawn point plus swarmageddon plus normal swarms that can keep coming if you don't clean up quickly plus a breeder plus bet-c you can potentially wake up inadvertently trying to fight the bugs

[rare dawn]

stage 2 felt like a barrage or swarms for me, idk much about the spawn mechanics but it feels different and more than usual

[thick sapphire]

i haven't been able to stabilize it yet but i feel like it shouldn't be too bad once you stabilize given you have a bet-c and jet boots

let bet-c help with the swarmers lol

[rare dawn]

swarmers is easy to deal with, the problem is i was playing on mono speaker so i have no audio clue so i have to panic and spin my camera around

[thick sapphire]

with hurricane i just shoot the ground

[rare dawn]

but yeah betc waking up at a bad time is definitely a massive issue

same with laser

[thick sapphire]

problem is you can have two swarms by the time you clean up the stage if your team isn't great

[rare dawn]

i mean, unless you're really intentionally kiting i dont think its possible to have 2 swarms

that or taking out like 2-3 eggs at once

[thick sapphire]

i mean more like, on stage 3, first swarm before you even clean up the spawn bugs and second swarm before you properly clean up the first swarm plus remaining bugs around the map plus bet-c etc.

and i'm inevitably going to find myself kiting a lot when someone needs to be picked off the floor every 30 seconds or so lol

[rare dawn]

stage 3 we used the drop pod spawn resistance to clear the first swarm safely

[thick sapphire]

i've sat in the pod at the start but not waiting for the swarm

[rare dawn]

i swear its one of the mission that it was impossible for us to walk out because the moment the door opened its just mobs on the pod

[thick sapphire]

mobs on the pod and you can see 4 praetorians as soon as the door opens

[rare dawn]

yeah

also spit baller and nexus

is that nexus an always spawn

on stage 3

[thick sapphire]

maybe

[rare dawn]

oh right i was watching someone else doing the run and the nexus wasnt there for them but it was there for us on stage 3

everything feels like a blur because of how much i was panicking

[fierce shuttle]

for cryo driller in deep dive, is it better to bring tuned cooler, ice spear, or snowball?

[blissful elk]

Snowball

[edgy ibex]

B U G

[fast badge]

what's the best way to get started on deep dives?

[fierce shuttle]

if you can clear haz 4 reliably i guess

[wraith shard]

By teaming with people until you've got your sea legs and understand how deep dives work

As ranix said, you'll be truly ready when you can consistently beat haz 4s, since the normal deep dive difficulty goes up to haz 3.5

[spiral badge]

DDs don’t always feel haz 3.5 though

[wraith shard]

Thats tru

[olive flicker]

It feels more like haz 3, yea.

[olive flicker]

I did not know that, thank you.

[wild tapir]

DDs are only haz 3.5, I got all excited for nothing

How big of a jump are elite DDs?

[coral crescent]

EDDs go from 4.5 - 5 - 5.5

they're really fun

[tawny egret]

Any tips for last mission's swarmageddon?

[onyx dirge]

Freezing swarmers kills them, so cryo grenades really help

[raven carbon]

Quite a bit from DD, also depends on your team though

And the warnings

I was doing DDs with friends regularly, first time we tried EDD we got killed in 2 minutes after getting out of the pod

[wild tapir]

My team can take haz 4s 80% of the time, and finds haz 3 to be a bit boring

[raven carbon]

It was also lethal enemies tbf

[raven carbon]

Edd is harder but you get plenty of nitra so that's there

[wild tapir]

Also, how big of a time commitment are DDs and EDDs?

[jovial garden]

30mins to 1 hour

[raven carbon]

With a good team you can do it in 30 minutes, can go up to an hour

[wild tapir]

That ain't too bad

IK in normal missions the longer it goes the more swarms you get

If I play one mission for a long time, does the increased swarms carry over to the next

Or are we free to declare our financial status for as long as we wan't without fucking ourselves over in the long run

[raven carbon]

No it's a fresh mission in each stage

But your nitra carries over

And ammo, hp too

[wild tapir]

Alr good

Do held items carry over?

[raven carbon]

Items?

Such as

[wild tapir]

Compressed gold for us to ping

[raven carbon]

Nah

You have to enter the pod at the end just like a regular mission

Deposit it or lose it

Your perks get refreshed

Iron will for example

In each stage

[tacit jungle]

finally a nice spicy third stage swarmageddon

[olive flicker]

Cryo minelet zhukov.

Fire boltshark.

Using nades for swarmers sounds like an incredible waste.

[tacit jungle]

grapple past your gunner or driller and let him deal with that nonsense

[lament coral]

i racked up 1000 kills as sticky flames driller

[willow nimbus]

Whats engineers best weapon

Im kinda new

[mellow cradle]

there are different weapons for different problems

there's no concrete answer

[still geode]

lok1 and breach cutter

[willow nimbus]

Ok thanks

I just hit level 10

[still geode]

but a large part about lok1 is as good as it is is due to having two very good overclocks

[willow nimbus]

Are there nukes in this game?

😶‍🌫️

[gusty grotto]

fatboy on pgl

[willow nimbus]

Whats that

[crisp sierra]

[gusty grotto]

the nuke you asked about

its on engineers secondary grenade launcher

[willow nimbus]

Omg

I want it

How to get it

[blissful elk]

It's actually kinda bad

[gusty grotto]

against the caretaker it aint

[blissful elk]

Lol what

[gusty grotto]

you never heard of fatboy caretaker strat?

[mellow cradle]

you're just cosplaying as driller c4 at that point

[willow nimbus]

I was playing with a random scout and he died in a crater that throws lava and i couldnt revive him

[blissful elk]

Benefits of using c4 over fat boy for caretaker:
You can use a better overclock or even a different secondary

[gusty grotto]

if I dont got a driller on my team its viable for engineer

[willow nimbus]

Also how do i do deep dives

[mellow cradle]

you need to promote

[gusty grotto]

promote your dwarf, get one to level 25, do the promotion assignment, promote dwarf

[willow nimbus]

Oh

Thats easy

I hope so

[blissful elk]

Takes 10 hours from level 1

Roughly

[willow nimbus]

Im lvl 10

[gusty grotto]

but you arent guaranteed to get the overclock you want from deep dives, or promotion

[willow nimbus]

Oh

[blissful elk]

Good you're like 1/5th of the way there

[gusty grotto]

the overclocks you get is purely RNG

[blissful elk]

Maybe even less I'm not sure

[willow nimbus]

I will grind this game until i get the fat boy

[blissful elk]

Js you might get disappointed

[willow nimbus]

Dw

[mellow cradle]

you get 5 shots

[blissful elk]

5 ammo on a weapon that can't even kill a praetorian

[willow nimbus]

Ive played many games based on luck and dissapointment

[mellow cradle]

and you rarely see crowds big enough to justify shooting

[willow nimbus]

Hmm

Well atleast its funny

[mellow cradle]

that it certainly is

[blissful elk]

And you deny your own team space

[gusty grotto]

thats why you play haz 5

[mellow cradle]

I do

[willow nimbus]

I can troll my friends

Heh

[blissful elk]

Lol even on haz 5 it isn't justified

You could use the base breach cutter for basically the same thing minus teamkilling

[fossil goblet]

bro im not gonna lie

[gusty grotto]

eh, I still shoot it at anything moderately big

[fossil goblet]

this edd is a real bitch

[blissful elk]

It's meant for swarms...

[gusty grotto]

stage 3 is a shitshow

[mellow cradle]

why?

[blissful elk]

Don't tell me you use it on dreadnoughts too

[fossil goblet]

i failed with my bro on stage two

[willow nimbus]

I found a bitter gem yesterday. Is it worth something?

[fossil goblet]

stage one was a bitch stage 2 was a nightmare

[gusty grotto]

okay and il still use it the way I want to

[blissful elk]

Credits

[fossil goblet]

exp?

[gusty grotto]

occasionally on the hiveguard stage 2, but I just end up going for hyper prop since its more manageable

[gusty grotto]

stage 3 is even worse lol

[blissful elk]

Go ahead but don't you find it underwhelming that it only has 5 shots and it can't even kill a praetorian

[fossil goblet]

how bad is it

sabo?

[gusty grotto]

my team werent equipped for stage 3 and I had to clutch the entire mission

[gusty grotto]

refinery

[blissful elk]

Swarmegeddon, small area, bet-c

[fossil goblet]

refunery 💀

i got betc on mission one the second time i tried

she wasnt there the first time

[blissful elk]

The pipes aren't even hard to build all the wells are close

[gusty grotto]

lmfao I have 4 shots on mine 😂

[blissful elk]

My head hurts

[fossil goblet]

there was a bulk on mission two

shit couldnt have come at a worse time

[gusty grotto]

il make it hurt a bit more, im lvl 754

i got betc on stage 1 and 3

I was playing scout at that time so I just rushed her with some embedded detos on my nuks

[fossil goblet]

lol

[gusty grotto]

easy kill

[fossil goblet]

i c4’d her

shit was good damage

[blissful elk]

Also stage 3 bet-c can be rough because the start is hectic, and on haz 5.5 she downs you really fast

[fossil goblet]

i got downed by a tri jaw in two and hopped off

better for my mental health

[blissful elk]

By the time you clear the area odds are someone will activate her on accident right as a swarm comes. Happened every time I played with randoms.

[gusty grotto]

I really had to tryhard the last stage as scout since my engie and driller kept getting downed in the middle of swarms

[blissful elk]

And since the cave is small it's rough

[fossil goblet]

in the first run i got fucked up by my axes not doing vampire

i was in iron will, killed three glyphids one axe and got no health

[scarlet anchor]

I noticed that myself, is that intentional now?

[fossil goblet]

ive found it works outside of iron will

not certain

[still geode]

axes have three damage components

[fossil goblet]

ill have to experiment a bit more

[still geode]

the first two are melee, the third isn't

[blissful elk]

Really tho for stage 3 I recommend dropping all your resups after clearing the start and taking out bet-c asap. Resups for healing because she can take out a lot of your health quickly. You should have a large surplus of nitra by then

[still geode]

vampire might do weird things if the third one kills?

[blissful elk]

Take her out and it should be easy as long as your team has good cc

[fossil goblet]

possibly

is the components measured by what part hits the bug?

[blissful elk]

Stage 3 also has jet boots so grab those if you can. They're great at taking out swarmers.

[still verge]

yeah this is my first edeep dive and man what a hard start lmfao breeders, swarm, and like 4 praetorians just outside the drop pod hiding as you spawn in

[blissful elk]

It's the hardest stage I've done. Stages 1 and 2 were easy but stage 3 is really tough

[fossil goblet]

jet boots deal damage?

[still verge]

yeah fire beneath

[fossil goblet]

this is the hardest one ive done by far

[still verge]

yeah I wasnt expecting so much in such a small cave too, I was expecting liquid morkite and swarm to be annoying but we didnt even get that far lmfao

[blissful elk]

If you're going in blind it's very easy for things to go south fast. If you're fighting bet-c and the swarm simultaneously then you're fucked unless you have really fucking good teammates

[fossil goblet]

or you’re cracked at the game

(i am not)

[still verge]

yeah me and the randoms were playing w/ we all went in blind I think, at least I did and I suspect engi was blind too

[blissful elk]

Anyway for anyone struggling on stage 3, recommend getting the best cc builds you have, dropping all resups for health, and defeating bet-c before the swarm. It should be easy after that especially with jet boots. Use the resups to heal because on haz 5.5 bet-c's gun takes out your health really fast. You should have lots of nitra from previous stages.

[still verge]

defo seems like not the week to do my first edeep dive lmfao

[fossil goblet]

elite is so annoying on stage two

elite mactera tri jaws one shot with one of their three or smth crazy

[blissful elk]

On the bright side, if you can beat stage 3 you probably won't struggle on future dives

[still verge]

true and im gonna keep trying cause ill learn a tonne from it

[blissful elk]

Good luck

[still verge]

ty

[blissful elk]

You can try doing it solo, swarms aren't as large and enemies have a little less health.

I failed 4 times with 3 random teams, one of which was made up of legendary and gold promoted players. I finally beat it solo.

[pliant yoke]

They can’t deplete your entire health bar with one hit, unless you get hit by all 3 projectiles

Elite Tri Jaw has the same damage as the regular one IIRC, they only have a lot more health and shoot much faster

[still verge]

if I do might swap from scout to engi for lok builds tbh

[blissful elk]

That's a good idea. I did it solo as scout but imo scout is probably the worst choice for stage 3. You'd need really good cc overclocks like fire bolt to deal with swarmers.

[still verge]

yeah I got chem explosive rounds a lil while ago and its cc seems insane whereas scout cc is....

[rare dawn]

this

its just seems like your health gets deleted because sometimes there's others mobs around you

[toxic blade]

it's definitely viable, I've been using a macro lens ecr lok recently, very good but might fall-off in hax5 and 5.5

[pliant yoke]

It doesn’t fall off

It’s extremely strong on even higher difficulty settings

[placid musk]

macro lens is vital if you wanna conserve ammo

[toxic blade]

i was meaning in terms of ammo capacity

but i know it's strong

[placid musk]

if you have ammo issues with ecr you either have a shit secondary or you're using the gun wrong

[tiny portal]

ECR macro lens lok1 is possibly the most ammo conservative primary engi has

[wraith robin]

engi mains really just blindly admitting they don't utilize their turrets

they are your lifeline

turrets plural because I'm on team Gemini

[toxic blade]

aren't most people?

and with regard to the ammo thing, i find i get more value out of a breach cutter than ecr lok1

in terms of swarm clearing

[olive flicker]

Ecr lok is so good I can run hyperprop with it and have no worry.

But I enjoy turret whip too much.

[placid musk]

i use fatboy lure

ecr is mistake control

[spiral badge]

I try to justify mk2 in some cases because why else is it an option? But Gemini is too good and useful

[coral pond]

<@&296918282403840000>

[jovial garden]

|| ||

[ancient cove]

People get hacked

[outer cloud]

we got 1 elite and 1 normal bulk detonator at the drop pod area of stage 2 during egg swarm

bless ifg grenades, the explosion from the first killed the second

[tiny portal]

Thats why you take loki ecr plus breach cutter

Best loadout

[soft prairie]

ECR and Clean Overclock Laser Gun is basically so much ammo and I love ot

[olive flicker]

This EDD's stage 3 was the spiciest I've done so far for sure.

I didn't get a bet-c solo, and honestly I wish I did.

Got it 2nd attempt, 1st attempt I died stage 2 to hubris.

I didn't bring any swarmer specific weapons and that hurt a lot.

[hoary palm]

so when you do a deep dive, are the mutators the same. say if you do it and the 2nd stage is regenerative bugs, is it always going to be regenerative bugs for the 2nd stage or is it random per attempt

[onyx dirge]

It stays the same

[hoary palm]

gotcha

[onyx dirge]

This message has the mutators too

[dense sage]

major details like overall cave gen and mutators stay the same throughout the week
specific enemies spawns still have some rng (like where a spitballer might be)

[subtle rain]

I swear the second stage of the elite wants to be a mactera plague with how many of those spawns and trijaws are there

[spiral badge]

Spawns and mineral locations change every attempt

[jagged rapids]

My last try we got a bulk and elite grabber. Did not end well, those things too damn fast 🤣

[dense sage]

same thing you get from the weekly core hunt
blank core, weapon oc core, cosmetic core

[wraith shard]

I just got abandoned by my team

Damn Leaf Lovers.

Anyway how are y'all

Oh whoops this is discussion

Sry

[dense sage]

blank cores are spent at completed machine events (core infusers) during missions to give you weapon ocs and cosmetic cores (weapon ocs are higher priority)
weapon cores are the 6th tier of upgrade to each primary/secondary weapon you have
cosmetics just look nice, they’re things not available in the shop or current season pass
both types of infused cores must be crafted at the forge (between the bar and season terminal) before they can be used, for a credit and mineral cost

many things
clean OverClocks are simply upgrades / additional functions, no downsides
balanced OCs have minor tradeoffs for their upgrades
unstables can majorly change the playstyle of the weapon

every weapon has their own assortment

[foggy harness]

Mind you, some clean overclocks can massively change how a weapon operates. Special powder, for example.

On the boomstick

[wraith shard]

Clean ocs just have no downside aside from opportunity cost

[thick sapphire]

i think the other thing when it comes to EDD versus regular haz5 is first off it's more like haz5 with a warning on average, and there are probably a lot of greenbeards or other players who don't normally play haz5 but will try to get through the edd for the cores

[wraith shard]

Didn't realize I repeated smth already mentioned oopsie

[worldly root]

how do i find out if i should use directx 11 or 12?

[earnest geode]

Try using both, and stay with whatever is more stable.

[worldly root]

thanks!

[thick sapphire]

how come things will sometimes spawn in an edd and other times not spawn in the same edd despite same number of players

on my most recent go there was no bet-c's at all

[earnest geode]

I remember spawn not being a constant.

[hot vessel]

Deep dive was easy this week.

[blissful elk]

This actually really annoys me because the bet-c on stage 3 can make or break the run

Of course enemy spawns shouldn't always be the same but minibosses should be imo

[zealous knoll]

Oh what so the naedocyte breeder and bet-c combo on EDD stage 3 wasn’t actually fixed?

[blissful elk]

Apparently but they were there on all 5 of my attempts

[tacit jungle]

mostly break when you activate her and there's a swarm

[blissful elk]

Yep

[olive flicker]

Yea stage 3 doesn't seem to be fixed. Stage 1 does though?

[olive flicker]

I didn't get breeder or bet-c stage 3.

I think the big difference might be from number of players?

I was solo.

[full saddle]

player count definitely does have an impact on spawns like that yeah

in all my runs ive gotten a betc stage 1 and 3, the one on 3 is ignorable since its tucked into a cubby

i also get 2 spitballers and 0 breeders in solo but when i did it w/ a group i did get a breeder

[olive flicker]

Stage 3 bet-c would've been really nice solo.

Pretty easy to alpha strike it and then it's just free firepower.

[inner pulsar]

whats the missions for the normal dd

[zenith ember]

Pinned

[boreal shuttle]

Damn, friend and I came real close to duoing the EDD but a swarm came in right as we were connecting the last pumpjack

[coral pond]

so?

[boreal shuttle]

So they killed us

Still way easier than than last week's

[coral pond]

were you all out of ammo or something?

[boreal shuttle]

No, they killed us

Bugs tend to do that in this game

[coral pond]

[wispy tusk]

i think the regular dd is harder

[little halo]

Stage 3 edd, 4-man, got 2 breeder, a machine event, bet-c and jet-pack

Didn't think we could've made it w.o jetpack

[olive flicker]

You can't get machine event in edd sir.

[ancient cove]

There are no events in Deep Dive at all

[tawdry spindle]

Bro went quiet after that

[little halo]

I don't always stalk Discord lol

Either way, i guess i mixed up with another round that had event

[ancient cove]

EDD is really fun this week

a lot of nitra, a lot of bugs

[keen cedar]

Might just be me but stage 3 of EDD feels like it has mactera plague on as well as swarmageddon

[mental galleon]

Ay any lads want to do an elite deep dive with me and a friend on Xbox?

[placid musk]

resupply spam for the win babbyyy

[blissful elk]

In 4 of my runs the bet-c on stage 3 was next to one of the morkite wells

Those 4 runs failed

[knotty compass]

oof am i the only one who got drowned in a moshpit of flying and small mini bugs in stage 3 of EDD this week? didn't stand a chance and got obliterated ._.

[olive flicker]

Nope, that's par for the course for stage 3 EDD this week.

[final pewter]

These Deep Dives were my first ones and I think the EDD was pretty easy, having Rocket Boots and a Bet-C on stage 3

[plain smelt]

Hello, I've unlocked deep dives. Are they a very difficult missions?

[olive flicker]

Regular deep dives are haz 3, really easy.

Elite deep dives go upto haz 5.5, much harder.

[knotty compass]

the normal ones not really, a bit challenging but doable. Elite Deep dives are the big boy ones, so you better know your class.

But a ton of people running both in groups so if you are not that experienced yet, or unsure at the moment, you can easily go with a group and get it done. Elite deep dive as said before is actually harder in the last stage than the maximum harzard level you can manually choose, so things heat up pretty damn fast!

[eternal frost]

i see teams with a blank spot, but i cant join? theyre greyed out

[tall relic]

Today I learned that cryo is terrible against elite enemies

I felt so powerless against those elite praets in the EDD

[plain smelt]

I see, thanks

I'm gonna give it a go

Can I do it solo?

[still geode]

yep elite enemies have absurd freeze/ignite temperatures

crspr does acceptably, since sticky flames account for like 2/3 of your dps and the enemy actually being ignited only for 1/3, but it really screws over cryo

[tall relic]

Yeah, looks like I need to modify my playstyle a bit

[still geode]

sludge works quite well, elite guards and praets have absurdly durable armor and sludge's damage bypasses their armor while simultaneously melting the armor for your teammates

[short bloom]

where can I see the current dd ?

[tall relic]

Ah yeah I'm sure

I need to start using other driller weapons more but I don't think I can give up cryo

I'm trying to tune my main build to be viable in any situation, which I thought it was until this EDD proved me wrong

[knotty compass]

Yes, you can do them solo, but double check and make sure you choose "Solo", otherwise you end up with No Bosco.

[short bloom]

Can anybody show me where I can look for the current dd ?

[cosmic seal]

pinned on this channel

[fervent pecan]

so how's today's deep dive?

[ashen bobcat]

Bro damn

that betc in the last stage (elite) is horrible

that betc ruined my run

[fervent pecan]

and Betc is

[knotty compass]

the little sh*tters and flying bugs ruined it for me in Stage 3, i had so much nitra for supply and everything, and they just eviscerated my health like it was nothing..:!

[coral pond]

Swarmageddon is something ya gotta watch out for, yeah

[knotty compass]

5.5 difficulty, i swear they were everywhere! they came nonestop, too!

[mellow cradle]

yes, swarmageddon spawns are independent from any other spawns

[knotty compass]

i mean at the very least the first two Dives are the most important, but getting zerg rushed at the end was no fun!

[copper cedar]

Is the EDD this week the one with 2 betc's?

Or was that last week

[mellow cradle]

this week

there are possible bet-c's on the first and third stage

[copper cedar]

Really? I'm almost sure I got a betc on the first and second stage.

Maybe it was third

[plain smelt]

Ok thanks I did it. It was challenging that's for sure! Didn't like the first mission tho, lack of nitra was frustrating

[knotty compass]

yeah, the first stage sucked, i can agree, there was barely any nitra to be gathered

[plain smelt]

I see, at least it wasn't "just me". I thought I was gonna get a "git gud" message lol. I am a bit of a casual when it comes to game difficulty xD

[knotty compass]

You would be surprised how the Deep rock community is. 99% of the people who play are really decent human beings, pretty chill and supportive. Been part of them for some time now and the amount of "idiots" i encountered i can count on one hand only!

[plain smelt]

I see, that's awesome to hear 🙂

[night island]

Completed stage 1 and 2 with base Gk2 and double barrel boomstick . So much fun just blasting bugs away the second they get near

[little oxide]

I got kicked from the EDD Stage 3 cause I died a total of 6 times across the 3 stages.

sometimes u get the 1%

[knotty compass]

was about to say.. well.. write down the name, block them, problem solved.

[little oxide]

haha I wish I had but I alt f4d

[knotty compass]

should be still visible on steam with recent people you matched up with

😛

[little oxide]

that doesnt work for me its always empty. 😭

[knotty compass]

oh... damn

[little oxide]

but the EDD discription should have been enough of a red flag "Highly promoted dwarves only"

or something to that effect

"am babby pls carry me wah"

[knotty compass]

yeah okay. if you see people with things such as "higher promotion only" or "only silver" or anything like that with some requirements, that is a crimson red flag.

if you see something like "Lone Dwarfs in your neighbourhood" or "no leaf lovers", that is usually a better option 😄

[little oxide]

not in EDD wise but I've seen a loooot of dumb (happen to be one) highly promoted dwarves and like super responsive unpromoted scouts, lights everywhere, takin on big enemies and shit

as long as they can notice pings and read chat > 1,000% better than the few npc guys who dont know theyre on a team lol

[knotty compass]

indeed, indeed... 🙂

[wraith shard]

This deepdive is just EGG

[dreamy narwhal]

[mellow cradle]

please do play them

[blissful elk]

Absolutely play them lol

Regular deep dives are easy and you won't get better at EDDs if you never do them, though being at least comfortable with haz 4 helps.

[spiral badge]

You learn by failing at DDs, just like anything else

[short bloom]

Thank god, no O2 on the edd this week

[dense sage]

bro you’re tripping
greenbeards won’t hit shots they don’t take
and it’s not like dd/edd require completion for the impactful rewards

[stray bane]

man this EDD is very hard

[leaden zephyr]

anyone wanna do some elite deepdives?

[silent delta]

first elite deep dive completed, while solo

i am traumatized

[leaden zephyr]

good job

[silent delta]

if i ever do it again, im probably going to take heightened senses

damn leeches

[leaden zephyr]

leaches are funny when people are solo cause bosco like never helps you

but bosco is cool

[patent tree]

i wonder if dmg resist on gunner's thunderhead 5th perk also include fall damage

[blissful elk]

I think it does. I know coilgun's damage reduction mod does.

[patent tree]

oh nice

[tawdry citrus]

Question: I did 2 stages of the Deep Dive solo but now I have to stop playing, will I lose progress if I close the game?

If so I'll just leave the game open and paused while I sleep, but I'd rather close it so I can shutdown the PC

[old widget]

Yes. Probably safe to hit Esc in-game and put your PC to sleep, but once you start a dive you have to finish it, if you quit you have to start over.

If you quit, you /should/ keep the blank cores/OCs you got in between stages, though.

[tawdry citrus]

thanks I think I'll just keep the game open paused but turn the monitors off 🙂

not that I'll have lost too much if it closes, it was just the regular deep dive not the elite one

[pure tapir]

Does anyone know what's in the normal deep dive?

[blissful elk]

@pure tapir

[pure tapir]

Thank you 🙂

[viscid hedge]

lets gooooo beat my first edd

[small flame]

just did my first solo elite deep dive and

i think engineer was the wrong choice haha

still got it done though

[hollow patio]

i lost the edd for my team

i am a fool

is mr snooster and friends are here im sorry :(

[thorny peak]

wish i could find deep dives

[vast cave]

Can someone help me finish my first deep dive?

On game pass

[tropic turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgVtUGXxFDw&ab_channel=psydyl first try as scout if ya wanna watch

[tough skiff]

#lfg-xbox-microsoft

[blissful elk]

<@&296918282403840000>

[short bloom]

Man, the third stage of the edd is a pain

3 times, 3 failures

[ancient cove]

yeah, it was fun. ton of bugs. Thankfully you get a lot of Nitra over all 3 stages

Was Fat Boying all around

[short bloom]

I don't think staying in the pod and killing everything is a good strat, I tried

Maybe kill the spawns first ?

[ancient cove]

Are you plaiyng solo?

[short bloom]

No

Any ideas for the 3rd stage?

[ancient cove]

Make sure to take a lot of AOE, if you play with randoms, tell them to take more AOE weapons as well

Engineer has very good wave clearing secondaries

For Gunner I would recommend the standard NTR build or Minelayer.
Driller Sticky flames or cryo

[blissful elk]

If bet-c spawns near a well, do not go near her during a swarm. Fighting both at the same time is almost a death sentence with how hard she hits. One strategy people were sharing here a few days ago was to call in as many resupplies as you can and use them to heal when fighting her because of how much damage she does on haz 5.5.

Every time I failed with randoms was because after clearing out the landing, someone would walk too close to her to call in a pumpjack. This would usually happen right before a swarm due to how time consuming clearing the enemies at the start is.

Also as Igromanru says, bring something to deal with swarmers as there are going to be a lot

[short bloom]

Exit the pod or no ?

[blissful elk]

If it's too difficult it's fine to stay in the pod imo, as long as you can get rid of the breeders from there.

The important thing is being able to deal with swarmers and bet-c imo. If you can handle those the actual objectives are really easy as the cave is small, which is actually a problem with handling swarms and bet-c because there isn't much space.

[static lichen]

on our run, we waited for the first swarm, and triggered bet-c as soon as it ended

[olive flicker]

You can try alpha striking bet-c, but that requires a fair bit of coordination (or just playing solo).

You can down it before it shoots if you do it right.

[blissful elk]

Also if you're lucky bet-c spawns on a ledge near the ceiling which is easy to avoid, or doesn't spawn at all.

[static lichen]

if your driller is insane/covered enough, melee attacks deal a stupid amount of damage to bet-c

[olive flicker]

I was doing cryo rocket + leadbursters + just shooting with minigun.

[short bloom]

Head for the spawners, avoid betsy

[blissful elk]

As Loraw said, it's best to wait until the first swarm is over to engage bet-c

[lyric galleon]

Or you can be like the two Greenbeards we had and trigger them immediately as the first swarms hit. And get leached at the sake time. Lol. I think one had 24 downs.

[thick sapphire]

i think only stage 2 of edd has a leech?

[keen cedar]

I found best tactic for the start was to clear the the spawns immediately in front of the drop pod and then move as quickly as possible to fighting around the mine head, its a fairly open space for fighting all the enemies and allows some cover from the spit ballers while you deal with them

Or that worked for us anyway

[blissful elk]

There's 1 on stage 1 too

[thick sapphire]

i wonder what's scarier, a mission with 6-12 leeches or a mission with only one

one leech and then you're paranoid the whole time but not seeing any more

[blissful elk]

The former because if your team isn't paying attention they can get grabbed by another leech after killing the one that killed you.

[brave comet]

Guys is there a way to solo this week's EDD

[blissful elk]

Yes

[brave comet]

I've tried everything i could but i cannot do the third stage

[blissful elk]

If I did it as a solo scout without a proper way to deal with swarmers you can too

[brave comet]

I'm doing it with scout too

[blissful elk]

Do you have fire bolts?

[brave comet]

Nah nothing useful on boltshark

Aside from trifork

[blissful elk]

Then I don't recommend doing as scout tbh

You're gonna have to deal with a lot of swarmers in a small cave

Cryo minelets?

[brave comet]

Yep recently got it

[blissful elk]

That could work

You need to be able to deal with swarmers

[brave comet]

I was using double barrel on boomstick for swarmers but they keep flanking me so i can't effectively use it

[blissful elk]

Yeah you need something that can take them out fast with little focus so you can focus on other enemies

So preferably something that covers the ground with a status effect

[brave comet]

I'm assuming i should get more ammo and accuracy increase for cryo minelets?

[blissful elk]

You can also use the jet boots to deal with swarmers, but that depends on how good you are at unlocking the crate and using them

Ammo yeah, idk about the rest as ive never actually used them

[brave comet]

Any recommendations for perks?

[blissful elk]

The best strategy imo is to stock up on nitra from the previous stages and put down resups all over the place once you clear out the start, and avoid triggering bet-c. Wait after the first swarm to start fighting her if you have to, as fighting both her and a swarm simultaneously is a death sentence. She hits really hard so use the resups for healing. If you can deal with the swarmers and bet-c, then it should be smooth from there.

[blissful elk]

Anything you already use should be ok

[brave comet]

I thought getting Bet-c on my side would be beneficial for the stage

[blissful elk]

She can be. Just don't fight her at the same time as a swarm.

What I've seen usually happen is people accidentally trigger her shortly after clearing the start, which is right before the first swarm. That's why I recommend avoiding her until after the you've cleared the first swarm.

[brave comet]

I got another question

Does this cryo minelets freeze macteras?

Like cryo grenade

[blissful elk]

It covers the ground in mines that freeze things around it, so unless they're next to a wall it won't work

Which is my guess as like I said, I've never actually used them myself

But seeing as swarmers die when frozen it should work well against them

[brave comet]

Alright made some changes on my build hopefully i'll complete it this time

Thanks for the help

[blissful elk]

Good luck. Hope bet-c doesn't spawn for you on stage 3 or she spawns somewhere out of the way. That makes things a lot easier.

[olive flicker]

Cryo minelets is amazing at wrecking swarmers.

Also it won't really work against mactera.

Stage 3 bet-c isn't guaranteed btw.

There is lots of nitra for stage 3 like others said, use it. I think I ended up with 3-4 resups on stage 3 while each of the previous stages was 1 each.

I had an especially terrible time on stage 3 since I was playing gunner with nothing to deal with swarmers.

[sharp tundra]

The trick is to take ur time on stage 1 to get all the nitra

Then you’ll have like 500 nitra

[short bloom]

. . .

We got to the 3rd stage

We got out

We connected the pipes

But a driller played on behalf of the swarm apparently

Dude got downed 25 times

I am lvl 75, he was north of 200, how does that even make sense ?

We got through the swarm and through a goddamn Juggernaut

Kicking someone bc of low level is a leaf lover tactic, lvl doesn't mean squat T .T

[coral crescent]

can people who dc in deepdives rejoin

[coral pond]

Sometimes, assuming randoms. If they're friends, yes

[static lichen]

a mission with cave leech cluster that has no leeches

[dense sage]

sounds familiar

[modern anvil]

lf deepdive

who want to

[short bloom]

Yeah, the only problem is I cannot see what I am walking into backwards

[raven carbon]

Just finished this edd. Got betc on two stages. Instant spawn on stage 3 close to the minehead. Nightmare stage 3.

Somehow finished

[raven carbon]

Yeah saving up a crazy amount of nitra was super helpful for stage 3

[versed bolt]

hello anyone wants to come to mission clean ghost hazard 4?

[subtle gyro]

hey slight question as someone new to elite deep dives

are they harder than haz 5 on the third stage

'cuz the first two parts felt stressful, but at least pretty manageable, but i dropped in on 2 spitballers, 2 ambushes, and a swarm the second i hit stage 3.

[full saddle]

it is hazard 5.5, so just a bit harder

[subtle gyro]

ahh, i see.

that's really interesting honestly, thanks for the info.

[full saddle]

im not 100% sure on the swarm times i do believe you're able to get them earlier

[subtle gyro]

ahh right, so it is normal to get that amount of resistance on third stage

[full saddle]

but it's not that much harder, it usually comes down to layout and gen

yeah

i usually get 2 spitballers, a breeder, and around 15~ mactera

in solo, so i imagine 4 player is much worse

[subtle gyro]

man, were it not for those spitballers, i would've maybe won my first elite deep dive, and done it solo lol

well, getting past stage 2 isn't that bad for a first attempt.

[full saddle]

yeah this week stage 3 is definitely the one that can take you out fast but refinery is always like, it gets much easier once you get the actual stuff done

its the clearing out + the first swarm

but once you're past that, you're usually okay

[subtle gyro]

yeah, you said it.

hell, it was swarmageddon too, i'm a driller that stuff is a cakewalk

another question, all 3 deepdives i've done, the first section had a betc, is that normal or am i just cursed/blessed

[full saddle]

stuff like that is predetermined, seemingly based on playercount, but its not 100%; ive had a betc on stage 1 and stage 3 every time this week solo, but people have said that with more players, the betc on stage 3 is right next to one of the wells

for me on solo, the betc is always near the opposite cliffside to the minehead

on stage 1

[subtle gyro]

ohh i see, so the game probably gives you a betc if you're solo, or at least boosts the chances.

that explains a lot :)

[full saddle]

eh, not quite but its like

ambient locations change based on player count, as well as amount of ambients, and it seems like betcs are consistent across player counts for stages most of the time but the location might change

from personal experience thats how it seems to work at least

[subtle gyro]

i see, thanks for answering all these questions btw

[full saddle]

👍

[dawn obsidian]

anyone wanna do elite dd?

[runic adder]

I just kicked from a deep dive on the last section right as we where about to call for drop pod with a "I have my reasons". This was after dealing with a team that was CONSTANTLY trying to double dip. No one said anything in chat. The only thing I said was "oh fuck you" to a stingtail that flung me into the air and insta killed me with full HP. Wish there was a way to report people that abuse the kick.

Love having half an hour wasted.

[ancient cove]

host your own lobbies

[daring depot]

#drg-gallery message
This EDD was good

Although only thing I did not like was double bet c

dumb tin can was committing both friendly fire and stealing well clustered enemies >:(

[torpid gull]

do deep dives scale in difficulty based on player count?

like normal missions do

[tiny portal]

I always just leave when I notice people being toxic early on in a DD or EDD, no reason to be a workhorse for them only to have the little twats kick me just before the end. Leaving probably cripples their game and leaves me with no risk of getting kicked later on, so a big win-win. Sounds like it was hard to tell in your case, that's rough. Better luck next time, kick abusers are the worst and should be punished.

[daring depot]

yes

[north edge]

how many is the max plasma burster missiles u can control at a time ?

[chrome wedge]

My wifi cut out when the pod was dropping in the last level of the deep dive

I'm pissed

2nd time this has happened

[short bloom]

At least you didn't have to constantly rez someone who's 3 times your player level :p

I will try again tomorrow, I am close to getting it, I just need to be paired with people who know their shit

[dense sage]

Your whole Wi-Fi? Or just a disconnect? You can try to rejoin a DD you were a part of in most cases

[chrome wedge]

You can rejoin?

Gulp

[runic adder]

The most good faith thing I can think why they kicked me is they thought the "oh fuck you" was directed towards them rather than the stingtail. But even then, just kicking someone for one thing you THINK was directed towards you...without even asking for clarification...very pathetic imo. Hatred towards stingtails and their complete and total annihilation should be something we can all can bond and come together around.

[worldly root]

can I play the game offline? no internet conection

[warped veldt]

yes

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[dawn sun]

About that, did anyone else had recent internet connection problems in deep dive like right now?

During last stage whole party started to have connection issues, one guy was dc halfway mission, and I was like 30 sec before droppod was supposed to arrive ;/

[silk sable]

Hey I’m recently returning to DRG after a bit is there any overall tips for deep darks I could know?

[paper marsh]

Watch the ceilings and don't forget to

It may seem obvious but even I forget to do it sometimes

also try to use your Pickaxe more often since ammo can be scarce at times

[fossil cipher]

Just did the EDD, those rocket boots probably saved us

Also had a betc we had to be careful not to wake up in the 3rd stage

[raven carbon]

Jet boots saved stage 3

[worthy tangle]

just did my first solo EDD, gunner burning hell + triple tech chambers build. stage 1 went great* too because gunner really benefits from low gravity. stage 2 was the roughest and took the most time because i basically had to rely on bosco to get the eggs exclusively, and it was hard to catch a break to deposit the eggs lol. burning hell made stage 3 much smoother than 1 and 2 imo, because burning hell is great for swarmer clear. if id known no detonators would show up i probably would've run clusters because the sheer quantity of enemies on stage 2. overall quite proud of myself, and was a fun time regardless of the bumpiness of the DD. if anyone wants my specific build feel free to dm me

[slow brook]

nty

[short bloom]

I was venting a bit yesterday

teammate dying 25 times, nobody listened to directions

and the gf went: why don't you try it on your own ?

0.0

Odin's beard, I am gonna

I tried the first stage, scout has a blast with zero gravity

2nd stage might be rough due to all the elites

but I know the layout of every stage, I know where the eggs are, where the aquarqs are

I might even change to M1000 and SCC for better single target damage

[full saddle]

just make sure you bring a good swarmer clear secondary for s3

[short bloom]

I got zhukov+minelets 😉

[full saddle]

👍

[short bloom]

plus, I get the feeling that SCC against the elites is a pretty good combo

[dawn obsidian]

I already did it

[earnest geode]

Lmao worked my turrets to death in EDD3.

[odd rover]

EDD is super fun this week.

[short bloom]

not for me, randoms led to me getting my ass kicked :/

[tawny egret]

Does bet-c always spawn on stage 3 of this week's EDD?

Or is this just my bad luck

[olive flicker]

I did not see it solo, but I've heard no one else have it not spawn.

[ancient cove]

There is a good chance for BET-C spawn

[lyric galleon]

I only had BET-C spawn on the first two stages, though consol seeds are different all together.

I believe certain small things (and I think from experience BET-C is one) can vary in the dive based on the number of players. If I recall I did a particularly tough low oxygen EDD a while back and BET-C kept popping up on stage 3, but later I tried it solo and she wasn't there.

[static lichen]

bet-c and nemesis spawns are weird

[ivory marten]

Hey.

Anyone wanna help me with a build?

[pseudo escarp]

yeah?

[ivory marten]

Melee Driller.

Is Snowball any good for it?

[olive flicker]

Snowball is great for freezing stuff.

2 shots a breeder.

[pliant yoke]

It’s hard to go wrong with this OC

[ivory marten]

Thanks!

[finite pagoda]

Daily post

[coral pond]

No

[south socket]

What class is best for solo edd

[pliant yoke]

Any class can work, if you can play it well

[tribal sandal]

Depends on the mission if no escort dreadnaught or caretaker I’d say scout

Cuz u can just run from enemies and pick off ranged attackers

It’s tedious but it works

Also pheromone nades work well for this play style

[olive flicker]

It's usually what you're best/comfortable with, since all classes can be built to handle most things.

Apart from specific cases like industrial sabo. Personally I do it as gunner.

[short bloom]

Karl sent me a good team, 11th time's the charm

[coral pond]

Scout can do dreads and IS perfectly fine solo

[fast anvil]

I just promoted my engi for the first time and am going to be doing my first deep dive with my experienced friends later, I play engi with smart rifle and deepcore grenade launcher, any tips? Should I change my loadout? Any specific perks I should pick?

[primal venture]

Man there was like 400 nitra on stage one of the EDD

[olive flicker]

DD is pretty chill, you got nothing to worry about.

[static lichen]

normal deep dive is ez, if you can beat a haz 4 mission, you're taking a deep dive no problem

[fast anvil]

Ty for advice everyone, I can do haz 4 so I'll take your word for it

I appreciate the support

[weak grail]

For the engineer, change the deepcore grenade launcher to the breach cutter, & don’t forget to upgrade your terrain & utility tools

[fast anvil]

My platform is max utility rn, and I have been considering the breach cutter

Ty for the tips

[soft fractal]

How do you promote driller? I’m pretty new

[olive flicker]

Like any other class, get it to 25 and do the promotion assignment.

[soft fractal]

Ty

[tawny barn]

What's the best class for solo deep dives? I'm pretty new and only promoted Scout and I'm def not good enough at him lol

[raven carbon]

Imo Lok1 and breach cutter is a much better combo

[night island]

I find scout easiest cause they are my favourite class and I can just kite enemies, but I'd say driller would be quite good too with all the crowd control. depends - whatever class u are best at really

[tawny barn]

can I ask your build? I go m1000 and Zhukov, and at the moment I don't have any overclocks.

[night island]

I'm not the best at builds lol, and I don't remember exactly what I have off the top of my head, but I'll give it a shot. I like to use zhukovs with damage > ammo and don't care about spread, and with the mod which gives extra damage to targets in electric fields. Then I combo that with ifg nades and use th zhukovs almost exclusively for crowd control with the nade. M1000 I like to get the focus bonus damage, the base damage and the one which decrease focus load time
think I rememberd that right

[coral pond]

Ocless zhukovs is rough

[tawny barn]

Thank you so much! I'll give it a try

[night island]

np

[tawny barn]

I have the overclock that gives you more ammo but less rate of fire, don't know if I should go that?

[olive flicker]

You should be able to do regular deep dives pretty easily with no OCs and any class.

Just cover your bases, some single target some swarm clear, plus utilise bosco fully.

If you can comfortably do haz 4, you can do regular deep dives.

[tawny barn]

I tried a deep dive but got stuck and died lol not to mention I have a terrible aim. I need to practice more I guess

[tawny barn]

I struggle at haz 3 so maybe not lol

but thanks for the tips

[olive flicker]

You can check the pin in this channel to see what the missions are for the DD and prepare accordingly too.

Prepping for dreads and the like.

[tawny barn]

Ohh I see, thank you so much

[civic zenith]

What do ya'll think are the most fun Overclocks?

I thought Special Powder would be funny but I just use it as "Hover Boots at home"

[leaden cypress]

Bullet hell, bodkin, VIR, persistent plasma, necrosis, gamma contamination, hipster, SCC, EMD, Turret arc, Cycle overload / MPA / Minishells, Cryominelets, electrominelets, PBM, frag missiles, the mole, reatomizer, triple tech chamber

I'm probably missing some

[coral pond]

Rj, fat boy, h-prop, spinning death, rts, plascrete. Just to add onto that list imo

[leaden cypress]

How come i forgot fat boy and RJ

tf is wrong with me

[spiral badge]

I just got LSLS last night

Not being able to move isn’t really a downside when you have so much dakka

I have fatboy, I should probably forge and try it one of these days

[coral pond]

Learning to bhop effectively is a great skill for lsls

[static lichen]

the biggest downside of lsls is your teammates getting in the way

this thing shreds through allies

had a dread fight about 15 minutes ago, where i couldn't fire lsls too much because they constantly got in the line of fire

[spiral badge]

You can fire while on a zipline yeah? I think I found that out

[static lichen]

...i forget about that strat

all the time

[proud coyote]

many lootbugs hehehehe

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/806954062775320617/1130631920078819348/image.png?width=830&height=467

[desert lynx]

final stage of edd was stressful af

well unless you’re a full driller team

dd has a huuli in the last stage

[polar torrent]

i don’t think those can spawn there

[coral pond]

Huulis can spawn in dives

It's the only way to get biome specific ores from dives

[polar torrent]

never seen one ever

i’ve seen golden loot bugs but not huulis

[timid elbow]

They're rare and are random spawns. If someone else gets on in a DD/EDD it's not guaranteed in every run.

[chilly wigeon]

Do you think fat boy would be good for this EDD

I think not because the swarms on the 2nd stage are crazy and there isn’t much space plus the bulk detonator

I had 3 spawn on the 2nd stage lol

Craters everywhere

[sharp tundra]

The bulk ain’t too much a problem. But fat boy is pretty shit it’s almost always better to go for ammo overclocks on pgl

As long as the bulk don’t be an elite 💀

[tulip idol]

Fat Boy is great, but you better make a good use of it like listening and immediately reacting to enemy spawns with a shot and making good defences with chokes and repellent fields, or mb even with platform roads

[chilly wigeon]

I’m about to do the 2nd stage right now so far so good I’m pretty good with it so we’ll see

[sharp tundra]

The only hard stage is stage 3

[desert lynx]

huulis are guaranteed to spawn every run, hence the strat of finding a stage 1 huuli, killing it, and pulling out with the minerals

[chilly wigeon]

My teams always fall apart is soo annoying

[earnest geode]

Not really tbh. Stage 3 is pretty small, with a fat boy field, there'd be nowhere to run from swarms.

[chilly wigeon]

It worked wonders in the second stage but my teammates rushed out of the pod in stage 3 and all died immediately

I’ll probably switch it out for something else next time

[earnest geode]

I used breach cutter with trail and it has worked wonder for my survival, since swarmers are the majority of swarm wave in stage 3.

[chilly wigeon]

I’m a bad engi honestly after getting fat boy I’ve hardly used anything else I need to practice with the breach cutter

[desert lynx]

that’s the best kind of space for fat boy

just take friendly for the fallout if it’s a problem

(most of the time it’s not)

my team had a fat boy engie and it wasn’t much of an issue

[chilly wigeon]

I think a lot of engineers misuse the fat boy so it gets a bad rep lol

[desert lynx]

there is no misusing the fat boy

[blissful elk]

This is true

It just sucks

[earnest geode]

You mean me firing a fat boy into the uplink is correct? Oh boy I always knew I was doing the right thing.

[blissful elk]

It's the litmus test of whether someone uses something because it's fun or if someone wants to use something because it's actually efficient

[desert lynx]

the effectiveness of fat boy scales linearly with how many bugs are in the rough area of a surface - level bulk crater at one time

[blissful elk]

Grunts specifically, anything larger won't die. Even on haz 5 it's overkill as not not too many grunts would be bunched up in one spot and you'd be spending 1/5th of your ammunition, when other options could wipe out the same amount with better ammo efficiency.

And there's also the fact you don't deny your team an entire area for a while if you use something like breach cutter

Hell, base breach cutter would do the same thing if you had lots of grunts in one spot

[desert lynx]

it's not exactly fair comparing a gimmick oc with an optimized build on the engineer's strongest swarmclear secondary

[blissful elk]

It is when people use said gimmick oc as if it were a good oc

That's the thing. In public games I've seen so many people use it poorly and claim it's a good oc

[desert lynx]

with a single damage upgrade fat boy oneshots any bug below the healthpool of a guard and with both it goes up to stingtail
and thus it eliminates most swarm - based threats instantly in a larger radius

you want to take it on caves where you can see where the bugs are and blast them as soon as they spawn, and then forget about it

the fallout takes care of exploders, swarmers, and even maccas if you're lucky

[blissful elk]

I don't think a nuke is enough to take out Ronald McDonald

[desert lynx]

and then you settle for something else for single target because for whatever reason a tactical nuke isn't great for blowing individual objects up