#deep-dive-discussion
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but my team was cracked so idk
i can see getting swarmed fast on stage 3 if you dont have enough stopping power
which channel can i find about the contents of the current deep dive?
pinned in this one
can a dwarf join a deep dive mid way? My friend and are midway thru our very first run haha
you cannot join a random deep dive that’s already underway
only *exception is if they were there to begin with, disconnected due to some network issue, then join back
anyway, good luck
Yea, a teammate dipped but we managed and we were surprised to see we kept our ammo and nitra etc haha
It was fun
You keep everything you’ve earned on previous stages, so picking up nitra early can help in later stages when there could be a shortage
basically sludge disperser is really good in edd since most bugs are disgustingly fast

just having it around lets your team kite while eliminating swarmers.
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least suspicious link challenge - impossible
take-discord
dont click
wat's in EDD this week?
pins
ah, danke.
What's the deepest mission in this game from a meter standpoint
You know that little nunber in the drop pod
hard to say as not many people track that, including myself.
maybe ive seen 50-60k+ meters?
i've seen 250k+ once
hoxxes do be pretty huge
base one or from DD point?
(From a regular mission or from the final stage of a Deep Dive?)
(oh myn i wish i could remember) i think it was a deep dive? im not sure tho
prolly was
that does make sense because planets get ferociously hot at their near-centers
Glad to finally see another edd with a warning on stage 3
glacial strata prolly the opposite
Damn that means my room is the center of a sun then e.e
Unfortunately, it had too much mining and egg hunting. Seriously these objectives seem disproportionately common
the air conditioner on the table:

So it was still kinda boring. Especially because stage 2, despite being cave leech cluster, had literally 0 leeches for me
So it was basically no warning
basic fans can work as well but only if you really start sweating
and that makes you thirstier 
and you stink
sweat deficiency moment
knowing CLC, they prolly all spawned in one spot somewhere, or cave gen spawns got fucked up somehow.
either way it's a bit of paranoia never really knowing
I just want more edds that a) actually have a warning on stage 3 (that happened this week, so that's neat) and b) don't spam egg and morkite objectives
the regular deep dive almost looks the exact same as last week's
egg, morkite and black box
Like jfc this game has lots of exciting primary objectives please use them

Big boy numbers
Is depth correlated with difficulty
Like last week edd was an absolute absolute travesty
probably not
As in: "Wow this is hard" or "Bruh #2"?
As in bruh #2
i see
It was so boring
I thought sandblasted was the shallowest
It literally went egg morkite, morkite mule, egg morkite
With no mutators on stage 3
devs made a new warning, bulk detonator cluster, they just forgot to change the name 
yes when you get a resupply, you'll get some of those too if you're not full
Yeah, resupply gives ammo for all weapons, support tools and throwables
Yes. I and many others recommend the Resupplier passive perk
Stock up faster, get more health replenished plus a free reload of all your guns and tools
I like your funny words magic man
Idk about perks or upgrades I'm very new
Idk what's happening, in deep dives and even normal missions
Got 3 bulks in a single stage yesterday
Happening even in normal missions
Bulks and on the other end of the scale infinite swarmers
You'll learn quickly 😄
I've promoted scout first and really felt like i shouldn't since he mines a lot and fall to death a lot so i wished i had deep pockets perk or hovering boots.
Which other class would be best 2nd choice regarding that?
For deep dives?
You fall to death as a scout? You know you can avoid that with grapple right?
If your grapple is up just grapple towards the ground
Anyone wants deep dive?
How to kick teamkiller?
One guy killed all of us and died himself
Failing the mission
Oh it's host only
Never joining again i guess
Sorry to hear that
Scout has a lot of tricks to manage even without an engi to provide plats
First and foremost being able to stand on nitra veins and certain minerals
And failing that, power attacking the space above a spit of interest to make a little hollow to stand in and rest
Plus, as already mentioned, if you’re jumping from a high place, grappling to the ground negates fall damage as long as you hold to the end
Also the fall damage mod on grapple negates so much fall damage it will rarely kill you.
You'll get hurt a bit sure.
That plus his armour has it too I think?
I think its 33% less fall damage
is there a lore book that goes into detail about hoxxes iv ecosystem and if not i hope it gets added
honestly this game got me hooked
not really, the best thing we have is the miner's manual and that's about it. The game is vague on lore purposefully.
Also theses questions are best asked in #drg-chat 😛
oh thanks i'm still new to this server
Someone asked this in a recent dev stream, they've said the miner manual is pretty much it and they wouldn't want to add too much
But now I don't recall which stream it was or more details about this
Does one die after iron will lasts?
Only if you dont pick up health
do flares.. get worse?
i swear when i first played they were better
first couple missions
You can pick up health from red sugar or resupplies
This is really good perk then
no
In some areas they work better imo, for example in azure weald they barely do anything for me
Yes I run it on every dwarf
Can praetorian and opressors be stunned with weapons that have stun chance if you shoot them in the glowing part?
i kinda don like any of the primaries except uh
scouts
oh wait i thought this chat was
i didn't realize deep dive was a thing in game i thought it was just wordplay
Oppressors cannot be stunned, praetorians can be if hit yes (in the face in the ass or if you break armor in other spots)
How to change which save is main one
Or how to update main one with the most recent progress?
if you spend any amount of credits, then the game is saved
you can do that by tipping loyd
failed normal DD on stage 3, im sad and bad
Nevermind i figured it out myself
Also in case anyone wondered if it's correct answer it's not.
I'm not sure why you'd think the game is saved because you tipped Lloyd tbh 😄
because I checked the files, and the last time player.sav file was last modified was on the date when I spent credits to tip lloyd
the game save everytime you close it, AFAIK
darn, but maybe a phyical book would be cool
So do you run vampire on ever dwarf also?
I only run vamp on freeze driller myself
I figure that if I cant get a big heal off after iron will I will die again anyways
Sure but idk then you have to either revive someone else into a bad situation or find a resupply/red sugar immediately
any point in minning nitra or morkite just before entering drop pod?
minor exp gains due to total minerals mined, even if you don’t deposit it
mining nitra is useful for deep dives though, as it carries through stages
seeing how you’re in #deep-dive-discussion
yeah lol
Got worried there was so little in last stage but we got more supplies than we could afford with what we found
plasma gun was nerfed? i cannot mining more
No
i cannot mining with it more
do you have the thin containment field modification equipped?
and if you do, do you know how that modification works? (the charged projectile needs to be hit by another projectile)
yes, i tried and not mining in explosion
i didn't know that i need shot a minor projectile to explode that
ok, i'll trying it now
it worked, thanks
@steady wharf one of those buds next to the drop pod instakilled me on that deep dive lmao
it was in an exploder's little crater and i walked into it, dead
This weeks elite deep dive is something
You mean a bulk crater?
no just normal little one
CoMbA bUuUuUD
It looks pretty sketchy
First mission you risk getting killed repairing the mules and then when going to the drop pod , on second mission there is a guaranteed detonator before and after the black box , ,the last mission is a walk in the park
slashers like 1 shot you
oh and the cave the box is in is small enough that if you not carefull with the bulk det you can wipe your entire team
Me and my team had the tightest clutch
because the naedocyte got into the spawn room and killed our driller
and then the bulk detonator
and a opressor
and then septic fucks
and then naedocyte roes by the bucket
my first time playing low oxygen was in this weeks normal deep dive
it wasnt as bad as i imagined
and AAAAAAAA 10-15 minutes of constant clutching
low oxygen is easy when you have the mule
Yeah and it hella sucks
We had no bulk, and also no cave leaches surprisingly
on the elite deep dive right?
Yes
niceee
No bulk spawned at all
Lethal enemies definitely punishing, but we just took it slow and careful and we were fine
Yes, its not that tough to do though, especially when also running quick revive
half way through the edd
gl
are elite deep dives bad? I've only tried them a handfull of times, and I've never gotten past stage 1
very dependent on mods
mods? as in stuff like rich atmosphere or mactera plague?
shield disruption
oooh ok
yeah not bad when spending most of the time next to doretta
Yeah if you just ride on Doretta it’s not even an issue
When refueling just have Molly be next to the oil…shale (?) resource thingy you’re currently mining at
Are there just no leeches on stage 2 of the EDD?
Also I didnt get a bulk on the black box, only like when I pulled the 3rd egg
My god
I just finished my 1st solo EDD
I had to use all 3 bosco revives and my IW on the last mission because of 2 nasty swarms in a tight space
During the escape sequence I fell down a resupply hole and had to charge through a wave of bugs
And I managed to get to the drop pod with a swarm on my toes
You must be pretty good, haz5 is very tough solo
Its more that I just had NTP
Its rly hard on scout bc no dps
That's a good idea for merchandise actually, I'm sure many people would love to buy it. Printed edition of the miner manual.
Damn right
Most EDD are solo-able with some practice and luck.
that's why I always use hoverclock 😄
pretty easy EDD
theres also an animation time for swapping and firing the hook before it lands to pull you... so u can die if your a bit wee slow.
grapple is one of if not the only things in the game to not have this lmao
my god the twins wave spawn on stage 3 of edd is crazy
whats the blue spinning cube on the terrain scanner, i dont see anything there and im on top of it
I think that's your waypoint
ah right thanks
my most recent attempt at this edd black box went wrong partially because driller holes giving more places for bugs to get in
and i'm still green
Is there a consensus easy class to learn solo edd on
Gunner imo. You have shield to give yourself breathing room, great swarm clear, straightforward single target.
Engineer for me, especially with a nuke to easily clear out big waves
I can see both of those
Plus turrets provide good cover fire, and you have good enough mobility with platforms
but engi doesn't have good self defence unless you bring breach cutter
when bulk comes in during black box
chem explosives on lok-1 provide amazing self def
true, they do have fear after all
ECR is a bit slower in situations when you need to get bugs off of you than breach cutter, but it's still good
so we have 2 weapons
2 specific weapons
meanwhile gunner has shield, driller can drill into a wall, and scout can run away by grappling
all of which are always in your kit when you play these classes
so i'd say that engi requires you to be the most thoughtful about your positioning
and I wouldn't reccomend him as the easiest option
He has pretty good survivability even with no oc's on breach cutter and smg or lok-1 imho
with breach cutter and/or ecr yeah
you seriously under estimate the power of electric discharge mwahahaha
sadly not being able to use lok sucks

you need roughly 2 seconds to set up a sentry to even use that, and when you get taken by surprise by a slasher or swarmed in any other way, you don't have this kind of time
it is
😂
but you won't be able to withstand the attacks of a few grunts mixed with slashers on haz5 4p for 2 seconds
there aren't 4 people lol
we are still talking about this ^
ayo
You get a moment to set up after swarm call unless you’re already in huge trouble
Gunner gang
The one thing that really helped me with EDD was planning to have a way out before moving into a new space.
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did anyone encounter a cave leech during EDD stage 2?
No lol
Lots. Of. Nitra
“Cave Leech Cluster” ok buddy
more bulks than leeches
especially when bulk shows up in the middle of BB
how did we not wipe
i’ve heard engineer
me personally i hated engineer cause his weapons sucked until i got chemical explosive rounds for the lok-1 and the breach cutter with whatever
and then my team nearly fumbled it in the third mission we burned all our IW on the first swarm and scout had to leave us behind on extraction (partially on me fumbling my shield) and then nearly lost it from falling into a resupply hole
now he feels really strong and versatile
they’re pretty easy
the first mission is haz 3 then 3.5 then 3.5 again
just manage nitra well
If you can’t beat them solo on the first try then you’re not good enough
i didn’t do deep dives for a long time cause i thought they’d be super hard and then i learned they’re not even haz 4
yeah it's more of a marathon than anything super tough
EDD on the other hand
goes 4.5 -> 5 -> 5.5
both this week and last week not any particularly expansive caverns in the EDD since they were all morkite and egg missions
has anybody been doing deep dives? only to be dced and unable to reconnect?
happeded to me twice today =[
last mission on EDD was pretty tough, not from anything in particular because it's pretty straightforward but it's very much a skill check on how good your team is at fighting bugs given it's haz 5.5 + lethal enemies mutator so you can't take many hits
also stingtails
- After you get disconnected/crashed, go to the DD/EDD Terminal and find the lobby you were in before (it will be grayed out)
- Mouse Right-Click on the lobby to open the Steam Profile of the Host.
- If Host's profile isn't private/invisible etc. there should be a green "Join" button
- Use the Join button to rejoin the lobby.
If host's profile is private, you can try to add him as friend.
Pro Tip: Before joining a lobby for the first time, you can first right-click on it. That way, you don't have to remember which lobby you were in, and if something happens, you already have the host's Steam profile open.
Leaf lovers fangs is a good description of the edd, it was one of the easiest ones for me so far lol
in my runs the driller always decided to open up the wall behind the black box which makes things a bit trickier
Does anyone know what the 3 elite deep dive missions are 
It's like always in the pinned messages that gets updated each week
fucking bulkie didn't show its face until i was halhway through the black box
i was on the lookout for leeches
not a bulkie
Yea this week's EDD was the easiest I've ever got.
Natural bunkers.
Hellfire coilgun.
yeah i think i'll get it easily next try, just gotta actively hunt the bulkie before i start the black box
How difficult is a deep dive? I've only done haz 3s
ah, interesting.
I may go for one
I feel very lost with the current system
Like it's fun, very fun
But I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing
you don't know what you should be doing in a deep dive, or like in the entire game progression in general?
Entire game progression
I play missions just cause they're fun
Then i check out if o can buy stuff now and then
yeah thats about it
if you go over to assignment board you can get "quests" that give you stuff
weapons, drip, promotions, etc
Aha
what they said
and besides clearing your assignemnt board, you do your weekly overclock grind, which consists of the weekly core hunt assignment, deep dive, and, further into your career, elite deep dive
What was the difficulty on an edd again? I've been thinking about taking one on
haz 4.5, haz 5, haz 5.5
2 or 3 warnings between the three missions (up to 1 per mission)
Oh neat. Should probably get more comfortable with haz 5 before that then
yeah, with team at least you might get carried
though i'd say make sure you're at least contributing and you're not a liability
like, last week's was pretty easy
i tried it even though i didn't try haz5 before
though i had played plenty of haz4
and of course make sure you have upgraded equipment/perks
what deep dive is it?
check the pinned message
I came here to see if that was scripted or what. solo with driller in that little room for black box was already impossible and he showed up the second i started it
It felt like last edd was a lot more spicy than this one
it isnt scripted
edds aren’t scripted but i believe the spawn pools are seeded, meaning if a bulk spawns in a certain stage there is always chance of it appearing there
Some spawns are random, but there are seeded spawns as well.
I got a bulk at the black box too but it didn't show up until I finished it.
Yea this week EDD is very easy. Everywhere is a natural bunker.
Friendly reminder black box can be safely failed and retried.
Were there any cave leeches during stage 2 of the EDD? I didn't encounter any even though it was a cave leech cluster.
bulk and opressor keeps spawning right in front of my face.
its like the game have a grudge against me.

I didn't see any either
Maybe they were all in this one room my team never explored
cave leeches exist they just hide.
Same, me and my friend never encountered any cave leech at all and we just remembered about the warning midway.
hi, does someone knows if drg is crossplatforms with pc and PS4 ?
wrong channel, but there's none
you can't crossplay, no
only with xbox and pc
ohh
i cannot play with my friend then :c
he has a pc yk, but its a i3 10th gen, with a intel uhd 700
idk if its good enough, he has also 20gb of ram
mb sorry 🥲
core grind
OCs then cosmetics
Hmm
Bulkies always spawn at the start of the stage, so I just need to hunt it down early I think
whats a core
didnt encountered any solo
it's rare for experienced players to go past 45 minutes, and even for newer players it rarely takes more than 60–75 minutes
around 1h-45min on average
oh. neat
i wanna try it out but i havent yet promoted anyone
i've completed my driller with all the upgrades
lovem flamethrowers
I'm usually 40-50min deep dive, and a little longer edd, but it varies from week to week
(solo)
Promote ar least one dwarf, it gives a lot of new content
Yes you have to reach level 25, then complete the promotion assignment from the terminal, and then buy the promotion in the memorial hall
rank 25. keep in mind that promotion missions can be done with any class; it's more efficient to switch to a different class when you're promoting
Heh I've promoted engineer four times, and none of the other dwarves
me with driller
Scout is close to a promotion, the other two are level 1
Also keep in mind that your dwarf's level and your character level are different
Character level carries across all classes
And needs 3 levels to advance by 1
Don't confuse the two numbers when you're looking for your promotion
The one inside the blue logo is the character level
i got that dw
it's a little tragic that i've found like 5 backpacks so far
(driller's dream btw)
and none had cool skins
i did get okay pickaxe parts though
Does getting more ammo upgrade, counter the more damage? The extra bullets will do the extra damage, and the extra damage will do what the extra bullets do???
Strange...
Usually the total damage with both mods works out to be fairly similar
But in most cases it's better to take the extra damage
Because total damage doesn't account for dps
And it's better to kill enemies faster than it is to have more ammo in the long run
In the vast majority of cases you'll have enough nitra
ammo is the safest bet
and required for OCs with a huge ammo penalty ie. hyperpropellant
more max ammo = more ammo from resupply
what is the best loadout for the epc?
I tend to only take damage when it gives me notable breakpoints (m1k, crossbow) or if the weapon is rapid fire, so I can control my fire, and not overkill bugs (minigun)
2X222
the second tier is up to preference
ok ty
Also 1x222/1 if you're using Heavy Hitter OC
ok ty
more ammo = more ammo when resupplying.... just know that there are weapons that has fake ammo numbers like gunners mini gun and scout zhukovs.
they add so little that its absurd.

600 ammo for a minigun's pretty significant
it consumes two ammo to shoot once
all in all, the ammo upgrade give you like 100 more damage total, which isn't that much of a difference, but dmg allows you to kill things 20% faster, which is valuable
deep dives refresh every week right
yes, on thursdays
you can do them again but it will be the same set of missions
new ones come out every thursday at 7am EST
ok
Really enjoying the cave leech cluster in stage 2 without there being any cave leeches at all lmao
It sounds like a bug
As in out of bounds behavior
Surely CLC should result in at least one cluster?
would have been funny if there were no leeches the whole way so you forget about the warning until you get to the last egg and then there's 4 leeches there that kill your entire team at once
nah, instead its your whole team wiping to 1 leech cause none of them read the chat that people keep spamming with leech
- After you get disconnected/crashed, go to the DD/EDD Terminal and find the lobby you were in before (it will be grayed out)
- Mouse Right-Click on the lobby to open the Steam Profile of the Host.
- If Host's profile isn't private/invisible etc. there should be a green "Join" button
- Use the Join button to rejoin the lobby.
If host's profile is private, you can try to add him as friend.
Pro Tip: Before joining a lobby for the first time, you can first right-click on it. That way, you don't have to remember which lobby you were in, and if something happens, you already have the host's Steam profile open.
anyone know where the bulkie in EDD stage 2 actually spawns?
as far as i can tell it has a chance to spawn during a swarm
in normal missions they spawn at the start iirc?
if its a Crassus Detonator yes otherwise no i dont think they do
oh is it only the crassus?
hmm
i gotta find a way to force it to spawn then i think, i don't want a repeat of last attempt
i say just grab eggs first if it doesnt spawn then you should be fine for the black box
last time i grabbed all eggs then it spawned whilst i was doing black box
oof
...given i'm solo, that was HORRIBLE
funny thing is that the third stage is worse
i haven't been able to complete it with four people
let alone as a solo
it doesn't look too bad? other than the lethal enemies ofc
stingtails and the big roly poly dudes
shellbacks? They're no bother for me
stingtails have killed me with fall damage multitudes more than any other way they've caused issues lol
less of them by themselves and more the fact they bring you closer or push you back into lethal enemies
but thats just my opinion
would it be a bad idea to just.. sit here until the next swarm as i reckon that's what'll have the bulkie?
when i need to be by the box?
i tried that last time lol
i had no issues killing him, but the crater he left was a fucking pain to work around
WAIT I THINK I HEAR IT
good luck
nope. it was just 3 praetorians and an opressor
maybe you'll get lucky and get 2 bulks like i did a few attempts ago
i wouldn't even mind that as long as it's not during the black box
and uhh
i finished the black box with no sign of a bulkie
shellbacks can be insanely dangerous as long as they don’t fall down a hole. But even then sometimes they can destroy you with their spit from an angle you can’t even see them from
pro tip: failing the black box doesn't end the dive
if a bulk spawns and you can't take care of it, you can just run, fail the black box, and try again
WAIT WHAT
my entire life i've been under the impression failing the black box failed the mission
The black box primary objective in regular salvage missions will fail the mission. The black box SECONDARY objective found exclusively in deep dives will not fail the mission
just finished the EDD with two other dudes
yes, but be careful to not get one tapped
yeah i noticed
that makes for down 2 across the whole dive
i fucking one tapped myself. down 3
aand morkite done. time to leave
and that's 3rd solo EDD done! definitely the easiest though at the time time it might have been the only one i failed lol
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ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks
Deep Dives
!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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Thanks Mission Control
Huh. Finished an Elite Deep Dive thinking I queued up for a normal one
I was wondering "Why is this normal deep dive so hard" the whole way
I am no longer ashamed of being downed thirteen times during it
If you fall in the ballpit god help you though
I feel like this week's edd was really easy. Maybe it was just luck of the draw for great teammates
the deep dive at the other hand...
I just started deep dives a few weeks ago and I never had a problem, just blast slipknot and kill everything
And play obj ofc
Regular DD is always very easy as its haz 3 and 3.5 missions EDD varies a lot with cave gen and mutator rng past month or so has been pretty easy imo
I'm not sure wave strengths and intervals are seeded tbh
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Looks kind of sus
Me and a friend unlocked deep dives like 3 weeks ago tried everyone of them and still didnt finish a single one. Farthest we got was beginning third stage once but thats it
this is why i practice in haz 5 maps
I actually thought the EDD was pretty tame this week
EDD was nice and short
The regular DD took me an hour and 10 minutes with two other randos
EDD this week felt super easy. Got it done first try in half the time of the normal one.
What setup did you guys use for the black box in the 2nd stage? Got overwhelmed there
Extending the ground with platforms, closing all holes on the ceiling
And a gunner who regularly places his shield
Is everything relatively close together?
From what I remember yeah
The waves can get pretty hairy but I think we stacked them on the egg gathering stage
Engineer, Sticky Flames Driller, Sludge Pump with a fire OC?
Does the Sludge Pump have an OC that lights things on fire?
Some driller other than me was using sludge pump and it looked like had fire affects to it
You can set the sludge on fire though different sources
Say, by shooting the sludge with EPC, with T5A mod equipped
Ohhhh, i was using sticky flames so ig that’s what happened. Cool!
That way:
- Ignited sludge becomes an environmental heat source, so whatever is walking through it, will have their internal cooling halted and will not be able to cool from the accumulating heat
- the puddles will inflict fire and heat damage to targets in it, on top of the usual lingering corrosion effect (with proc rate of 0.5-1.0s)
It can be hard to set up alone (EPC with BN is the only way, I think), but all in all it plays well into using CSP as an area denial weapon for the bugs, or at least some of them (common swarm suspects)
I've never done a deep dive with a team, always by myself
I must have gotten so lucky. My first deep dive took 45 minutes total and I got the fat boy overclock as engi!
Blessed
I got fatboy as a reward for finishing the weekly OC hunt assignment
I dream of joining the glamorous fatboy club
which class has the easiest time this week to do elite deep dive w/o any overclocks fellas?
trying to do my first elite deep dive solo, so yea
I'll always answer gunner to these sort of questions
simply because he has a shield
what build would u suggest?
without overclocks?
do any of the ocs that u do own happen to be for gunner
32122 Hurricane with 21311 Bulldog is my suggestion
i personally like 23231 brt7
and leadburster grenades
throw 2-3 in front of a bulk detonator and it goes poof
yeah, I forgot about mentioning that
and this is good too, especially with the stun
my main reason for even recommending hurricane was the stun
it may come in handy on haz 5.5 lethal enemies
brt also packs a noticeably bigger punch than bulldog when you're comparing ocless
What are deep dives? I’m 3 levels from unlocking them
Basically three consecutive missions on a high difficulty
Special missions updated every week which contains 3 regular missions you have to clear in a row
So they take like an hour?
Basically
Correct
30 mins to an hour
managed to finished till phase 3, tnx alot ^^ also @still geode
just wanted to get the weekly overclock, so yea
very nice
how do you change your class after the first mission
go to an equipment or class terminal
thanks
This isn’t a deep dive related question, please use #drg-chat
I tried Haz 5 and man, that was pain
I can do Haz 4 at best with any consistency and only with a team backing me up
I started Haz1 cause 2 scared me. Now it's all Haz4 with 3 on rare exceptions, and some 5 when I feel like a tough challenge. You'll get there too, with more experience and better equipment.
Anything up to and including 4 is fine, but from 4 to 5 there's a jump in difficulty. Faster crawlies, more spawns.
Yeah there was a definite jump from 4 to 5 when I tried it out
Just finished my first ever elite deep dive and it's time for a celebratory beer
123 levels in and finally got one 
I've done a total of like 2 deep dives
plenty of haz 4.
Haven't done a haz 5.
Kinda scared to.
Yo someone want to help me with my first deep dive?
First time I've had a network error in 200+ hours and it was during the last stage of an EDD as host
So sorry Bigcael and Huge, if either of you are here by any chance
My friend had one as well tonight
Must have been a thing with the servers
Oh even my game disconnected, a few hours ago
+1
Do a short mining mission, and don't do it solo.
Stay away from point extraction
Yeah really similar to last week
My squad got a Bulk Det that spawned right on top of us as we were waiting for the drop pod to open up during the second stage tho
Iron Will clutched
guys does the biom for elite deep dives ever change? Its been crystaline caverns for the past 3 weeks
it changes, I promise xd
should i promo every class at least once before trying a deep dive? i want to be prepared
one class should do
time to melt with engie then
i've never promoted anyone other than engi and can solo EDD, so i'd say that's not required haha
@lament lantern no wonder engi is such an awesome allrounder, best dwarf overall imo
definitely the best to solo imo
No, but it would be helpful, so you can fulfil other role if yours is taken
but then again i hated gunner and driller so much they're not even level 5 (i think they're both level 1?)
meanwhile i've almost hit 5th engi promotion
rocking that smart rifle + breach cutter is the best combo, just waiting for that perfect overclock now
i prefer stubby + shard diffractor
lok-1 + breach cutter is fun for sure, but i feel stubby + shard diffractor holds out better in tougher situations
then again i've not played heavily with different builds for lok-1
my first promotion was driller and hes awesome too, the c4 just deals way to much damage haha
for me, scanning approching enemies, slowing them with neuro lasso and taking out everything thats up to close with the breach cutter ist just perfect
i run smart rifle with the rocketjump grenade launcher overclock
i love the reload speed on it
i run the spiky grenade for direct damage with it and increased projectile velocity
can snipe nicely with it and dont have to worry about friendly splash too much
very interesting to hear, dont have too many overclocks yet but I do have hyperprop and fatboy which carries alot haha
Breach cutter on top
Idk where the idea that lok1 shard is bis came from, cause breach is just objectively better
Exec + inferno is probably the best, or ECR + inferno
i love ecr smart rifle, probably my favorite gun after m1k
I would genuinely recommend incendiary compound instead of projectile speed, especially on rj250. The ignition lets you kill a lot more grunts at once with just a single grenade
cheers i'll try it 🙂
does heat deal damage to friendlies ? how does it work ?
Rj reduces the damage dealt a lot anyways, so friendly fire wjth it really isn't an issue. You'll notice it yourself when you go to jump as well, you'll take like 1 tick of damage from the fire and that's it. It's like taking a small step on hot rocks
That's also a big reason to take the incendiary, rj reducing damage means it doesn't kill that well. So the damage from the explosion + the heat and subsequent ignition lets them burn to death. If you take stun with it, they kinda just sit there and die
yeah ignition also reduces the area damage so leses friendly fire
Ok, deal! Hollow Bough it is this week then.
I hope you're happy now
i'd like to see magma core edd, i bought the game early this year, started doing edds pretty quick but i don't think i have seen the biome once
actually not even dd now that i think about it
on one of our runs, a bulk detonator appeared while we were defending black box
same thing happened to us
Point extraction seems like a niiightmare on haz5.
there were two point extractions on EDD's "recently"
one was haz 5.5 on glacial strata with morkite and shield disruption
and the other was haz 5.5 sandblasted corridors with regenerative bugs and a twins fight
that was fun
Tbh point extraction is fine no matter the hazard, you just need to be very fast
Ran a PE last night, we had all 10 aquarqs within 5-10 minutes but had yet to see a single dystrum
PE is the only mission that scales with time, speed is everything.
PE is actually the best one to get if you have a decent team
You can basically soft lose before losing sometimes.
Oh talking in general
Still prob one of the easier/faster ones as long as you dont goof around too much
It only gets really bad if you are solo and it is lithophage outbreak.
I did "karl would be proud" as solo scout on PE with litophage warning 
why?
I needed the script lol
What haz?
Wait which achievement?
"karl would be proud"
I'm really unfamiliar with achievements as you can tell.
haz 5 without dying and without ordering a resupply
Successfully complete a Hazard Level 5 mission from start to finish where no dwarf goes down and without ordering a resupply.
point extraction are fine with a full team, doing them solo is sad
i pulled out that haz 5 no death no resupply on a PE recently, just because that was the cleanest way to do that level
Can the Edd have a double modifier on one of the stages?
No
It can have an anomoly and a warning, but no double warning afaik
Hey there Deep Dive folks, on average how long does a deep dive usually take?
also, can people who do not have a character promoted accompany someone who does on a deep dive?
if it's your first deep dive ever and you're doing it with newer players, you should probably allocate 40~ minutes to it, although it does depend on the week's missions a lot
this weeks normal deep dive is quite long and the elite is short
and no, a non promoted class cannot join a deep dive
cool deal, thanks!
I’ve yet to do a sub 45 min DD, since I haven’t gotten that achievement yet
what haz level is deepdive and elite deepdive ?
Difficulty for each Deep Dive stage:
Regular Deep Dive: Haz 3 Haz 3.5 Haz 3.5 — 2 Warnings (Total, max of 1 per stage)
Elite Deep Dive: Haz 4.5 Haz 5 Haz 5.5 — 2 or 3 Warnings (Total, max of 1 per stage)
regular deep dive also has two warnings total
regular dd is 1 warning min 2 max psure
When it comes to the Gunner, what Primary is the best for DPS potential? The Autocannon or the Rocket pad Launcher (the gun that can shoot out rockets)
It's definitely not the cannon.
burst or sustained?
Not sure which between lead storm and hurricane it is, I only have a couple of the hurricane OCs sadly.
Lead storm w/ lead storm oc is up there.
theres nothing better than lsls for sustained damage you never have to stop shooting and its very high dps
auto cannon is by far the worst of the 3 gunner primaries for damage
Man I didn't get a chance to attempt edd this week.
its still 29h left
Gotta do it tonight.
you have plenty of time.
solo deep dives feel more lonely than regular missions
a whole hour or more with just Bosco
(i prefer the full 4 players)
Well dd isn't the same as edd.
Dd took me 53 mins solo this week.
EDDs are pretty intense.
Usually fail a bit too on edd.
DD I do with team if there happens to be one open.
I get interrupted a lot while playing so solo is comfy.
i did have to do a deep dive solo this week since my all of my teammates left after stage 1.
at least it was just the standard one and not elite.
i find myself not using too much ammo with the Cannon, since enemies die pretty quick (only started playing 2 weeks ago, already prestiged Scout and Driller once. doing Gunner)
trying to get used to Hazard Level 3, need to work out a proper build
If that happens you don't get Bosco added later, right?
Bosco should show up when you're the only player left.
It does for regular missions and people leaving.
took me 1h 25min to solo a deep di ve
bosco included
*useful in getting the eggs ;w;
how do i promote a character?
Bosco is similarly great at aquarqs.
hit level 25 (character, not player), that unlocks a new mission in the assignment board, do that then interact with the terminal in the memorial hall
thank you
Any particularly bad parts of the caves in the DD?
you don’t need a good build for haz 3 or 4. Just learn how to kite properly
Haz4 can get pretty tough in a lot of situations, crap loadouts will definitely have a hard time.
If nothing you will run out of ammo on those loadouts.
And what would constitute a ‘crap loadout’?
i disagree, good kiting skills will get you very far on haz 4. Iv done tons of modless haz 4 and 5 runs and 4 really does not necessitate good gear
iv done full ammo cfm and microfletchetes with full ammo on edds before. And while it was difficult, i don’t think it wud be that challenging on haz 4 considering how long i can stay alive without any ammo on 4
I suppose what I’m trying to learn is the perspective of the person making the statement
Because I disagree with it
obvously new player experience will be different, but i do think prioritizing learning to move well is more important then build choice when making the transition from 2-3 to 4-5 or dd to edd
^
I think if you know what you are doing, having a bad loadout doesn’t change as much about your approach. You will just handle certain threats with less efficiency
good movement helps you on any build in any situation
attempting to kill bulks with stubby electric DoT when i ran modless engineer was a bit beyond the point of "less" efficiency, lol
At this point you might as well ignore the bulk and finish the mission
Lol
IF applicable. Tough luck if it’s a Salvage Operation
stingtails were also very ass but luckily i could bait them with a lure and then burst them down with 00000 ocless shard diffractor 👍
running out of ammo (bad efficiency) does not kill new players nearly as much as just getting caught by an enemy while they have ammo from my experience
^
i find that when people do die to a lack of ammo, it's just due to them not taking a resupply
they'll be at 60% ammo and refuse to resupply because it's a waste, then run out mid-swarm without having an opportunity to resupply during combat
honestly so true. Especially on edds, ppl will die from being stingy when we have like 300 nitra in the bank
or they run out of something like grenades or shields and die due to that because they didn't want to resupply while still having ammo in their secondary
it feels like there's such a big stigma around wasting resupplies, using resupplies to heal, and taking more resupplies than what was 'your share' that people are afraid to actually call in and take a resupply even when they need it
overall i find that mission loss due to people refusing to take a resupply even when it would be a good idea accounts for >10x as many mission losses as completely running out of nitra
Maybe the missions with no nitra are just stuck in my head.
when people do die due to a lack of nitra, it's almost always due to them either missing nitra veins, or playing too slowly and getting attrition'ed down due to fighting 2-3 extra swarms while staying in the same position
the times where i've experienced it happening because people were wasteful with ammo usage were exceptionally rare
But typically where I find ammo efficiency to be a problem is with added optional objectives and the swarms that accompany them.
staying alive is also a very big ammo save in a lot of cases
I do agree that good movement is a big part of playing well and it helps a ton.
if you're dead you're unable to contribute towards progressing the mission and that means it's going to take longer which means more bugs are going to spawn
and if people are dying a lot you usually end up with gunners burning up shields very fast repeatedly reviving them
But atleast my gameplay would be a lot more inconsistent if I ran literally whatever (or modless) and just tried to play normally.
It would ofcourse be a lot easier if primary objective was the only thing I was trying to accomplish.
Plus personally I like to have some leeway to cover for a bad team mate.
True that. I've learned when to call a resup to make sure I don't run out of important stuff during defense
yep, and having a resupply around in case you need to iron will is also super valuable
having like 80%+ hp after the invincibility ends and plenty of ammo makes it much easier to stay alive than just having 5 hp from hitting a grunt
I have the opposite problem
The gunner i play with takes like 3 ressuplies when at half ammo, "just in case" while i have like 2 bullets and 6 nitra
Resupply etiquette clearly failed here, but putting yourself in a situation where you have ‘2’ bullets is not ideal, either
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I have horrible ammo management, we both suck ngl
Things to work on as you play more
We played haz 3 for the longest time so when we jumped to the elite deep dives for overclocks our lack of skill really showed
So there were TWO leeches.
THREE, ACTUALLY.
One in Stage 1, two in Stage 3.
And a crapton of Stingtails in Stage 3 as well.
How the hell. I never encountered any leeches.
Didnt know about stingtails till doing last weeks deep dive
Getting yoinked into the middle of a swarm while nearly done with a revive was dreadful
Lucky me...
Always look up, esp when solo.
block him
Bro whatt 💀 might not sound like it but im worse at drg than him, we both have brain rot
do you double dip
Dont worry, I have an idea to combat this, shoot the gunner dead, take the resupplies you need, and then revive him
I stuff my face with as many fries as possible and then scoop the sauce into my mouth with my fingers
yes
I feel ya on that
What do you get from stage 2 DD and EDD once you have all weapon OCs?
A blank core or a cosmetic core?
Isn’t it resources?
Its a blank core
You don't start getting mineral cores until you've collected all the cosmetic cores
Does anyone want to do a deep dive rn?
i feel like most people have done it by now
yeah that'd make sense
shortly after i sent that someone started up a lobby anyways
got my oc and blank so i'm happy
Mf fr 💔
I have horrible ammo management as driller
Hey anyone willing to carry me through the elite deep dive? I got awful internet right now so I need someone to help me through it
Hello
you too m8
Do deep dives have to be finished in one session or can you make breaks in between the stages 1-2-3?
One go
You fail or leave before finishing stage 3, gotta start all over
You do keep the rewards for stages that you finish tho
So if you fail at stage 2, you keep the blank core from stage 1(don't get another on a second go ofc)
Ok, good to know 😅 thank you
A lot of people don't go for a second go if they fail on the 3rd stage, since they got the blank core and weapon oc already, and don't value the cosmetic. So you're not forced to finish it completely. Even i've refused to run dives again cause stage 3 bullshitted me a failure
I have Bosco on 2 revives, will they refresh after a stage or is it 2 for the whole dive?
Refreshes. As does your IW
any1 down for an elite deep dive
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is there a way to save dorettas head on deep dives?
or is she left behind on mule missions
when will the deep dives reset
7h 4 min
Hello, does anyone wanna do deep dives rn?
DC on the way to Stage 3s droppod had me so pissed i refused to go again 
I tried the current deep dive (first timer) with two of my friends and we just got absolutely swarmed by praetorians and oppressors on the second mission and ended up running out of ammo because they just sponged it all up. Got through the first mission by the skin of our teeth. Any tips for some greenbeards?
are you talking normal or elite? but generally speaking, thats an indicator that your composition is heavily lacking single target
the easiest fix is something like a scout with m1k, but lots of things work just fine for it; it's important to remember that pure grunt clearing is a job that should not be totally filled by every single member of the team
most builds have adequate grunt clear while still having decent single target but dont focus incredibly heavily on it or anything as a team and you should have a lot less issues with big boys
Fairly elementary question but are you making sure to aim at weakspots?
If you keep hitting armour it's going to absorb a lot of hits
Power attacking oppressors does a ton of damage btw, great for efficiency.
Yes but kind of risky if they're saying they're greenbeards
No time like the present to start learning 
Well does the flamethrower hit weak spots as well? I'm not sure where my buddies were aiming if I'm honest
3h left until next Deep Dive rotation.
If someone in Europe needs help to finish, let me know
no, it doesnt, and flamer is not the best choice against those targets anyways
What driller weapon do you suggest?
That answers the question
uh sludge is usually the best choice but really flamer is totally fine
Ideally you shouldn't be running out of ammo in deep dives, there's plenty of nitra
its just up to your friends to deal with those guys more than you
Ah okay thanks
The big glowy green butt is the weakspot
They die quite fast
Praetorians also take damage to their heads
And another question, is it better to rush objectives being chased by monsters or should you try to kill everything before doing the objectives? Not sure what the prevalent strategy is on higher hazard levels
But for oppressors hitting them anywhere except butt is a waste
Oo okay, thanks 🙂
If it's a swarm best to clear it
General spawns are fine can be dealt with as you go
also be aware of swarm stacking for stuff like eggs
Yeah there have been a lot of egg missions in deep dives recently
Every egg will trigger fresh spawns, some of them full sized swarms
Oh that might be what got us actually!
I rushed the eggs as driller while the rest did the black box
And then we got swarmed by ungodly amounts of baddies
Wasn't aware the spawns stacked
Oh no
Black box triggers its own spawn
And each egg does too
You must have stacked everything
yeah that will absolutely own you
Well that explains a lot
Do things in a sequence and watch out for each objective point as you go on
Yea guess we were rushing to make sure we didn't get unnecessary waves which would waste even more ammo
But that ended up biting us
Just like the glyhpids
if this was the normal DD, you really shouldnt worry too much about random waves, it takes a pretty long time for a swarm to come along
going too fast is more likely to get you killed in a deep dive than going too slow due to the abundance of nitra
assuming you are picking it up as much as possible which you should since it carries over between stages
Any of you ever not gotten any rewards from a Dive?
yes, when dcing during the dive during a reward phase
but i only missed that specific one
When's the reward phase?
like at the end of each mission
it says you get an oc or core or whatever, it pops up
Cus I disconnected after we were back on the rig and like 10-15 seconds later I left
i think its pretty likely that caused something to go wrong, but its still weird that you didn't keep your ocs since if you die on stage 3, you still keep stage 1 and 2 reward
so when you go to the deep dive terminal, all 3 numbers on the deep dive are grayed out?
right so it just straight up didnt save
thats very very weird
on mine, i had 1 and 3 finished but 2 was grayed, also no timestamp i believe
i think its almost definitely related to the dc
doesn't quite make sense to me why the entire thing was nulled but
I'm probably have to do the whole thing over, don't I? No chance for devs or anyone to something?
I fear this might even happen again
yep
you should probably try to get stages 1 and 2 done at the least before the reset then, since they give you the useful rewards
stage 3 just gives you a cosmetic overclock
Devs can't do anything about it. It's your local save file
Odd, normal dive went perfectly fine
The first 2 stage screens showed I made progress, just at the end there was nothing
oh that is really weird
Just do it again. EDD this week took me 30min with randoms as one crashed and one left on the first stage lol
Took me over an hour
yeah, just do edd again until stage 2, and abandon your mates to do their stage 3
I should ask the other players if they got anything
I think @wise willow was one of them
They better give me rewards this time or I'm done with EDD
You either do it again or who cares, rewards are random, you will get them later from another deep dive, loot box or lost pack anyway
I knew that dive was too easy, should have expected a catch
just did EDD again with randoms. Looks like it was still bit longer than 36min (fastest I have)
Managed to squeeze in an EDD run, finished solo 
Got downed once stage 3 to a triple stingtail spawn.
Triple stingtail 
Stingtails are fun they make you fly around
😏
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it’s calm. I’ve now reconciled with the fact that I’m not gonna do it, so I am going to sleep thank you for replying tho
Eh take your time with it. We've got 1 whole week after all.
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magma core edd fuck yeah

we're eating good this week
alright wut we need to know this dd
Good luck, everyone.
Untill you hit the ground I guess
deep dive
Now I wait and see.
fucking bangers
THAT WAS FUCKING FAST.
speedrun
im still getting last weeks deep dives wtf
Restart your game!
i see the new deep dives but when i entered i got the old one lmao
Glacia Strata, huh?
gotta restart your game
Same here
Yup, I see magma core, queue in, get crystal
rip if there is low o2 or haunted cave
k, had to restart - but i started the game after 12 GMT the first time too
yup same, besides, it keeps happening for me even after restart
strange ive never heard of that bug
if you join someone who has started the lobby earlier they still have the old dds
Ok, I think I fixed my mods.
So... anyone do the regular dd yet?
NO.
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Thank you.
I'll do the DD and see what's going on.
whats the dd and edd this week?
i just entered a DD that had dozer, i guess it hasnt reset for the host?
DEEP DIVE 
Region: Glacial Strata | Code Name: High Contact
Stage 1:
**Refine Liquid Morkite +
150 Morkite | No Mutator **
Stage 2: **
200 Morkite +
2 Eggs |
Regenerative Bugs **
Stage 3: **
Industrial Sabotage +
2 Mini-Mules |
Exploder Infestation **
200 Mork + 2 egg (Reg bugs)
For Stage 2?
Final: Hack power stations, repair 2 mini, exploder infest
Zombie, is this for the regular dive?
Yeh
Why can’t I see the new deep dives in the pinned message


