deep-dive-discussion

[round lynx]

oh

[burnt sandal]

after that, if you want more core, there is the weekly core hunt, and promoting a dwarf also rewards you with core and overclocks.

[round lynx]

ooook

i did like 5 dd yesterday 💀

[burnt sandal]

rip 😄

[round lynx]

and elite deep dive ?

[burnt sandal]

It will also reward you once but are not farmable either. It's separate from the normal deep dives though (meaning if you've done the normal dive, the elite will still reward you separately upon completion).

Basically, you want to do normal deep dive, elite deep dive and core hunt once a week.

For any extra cores, you'll get those through promoting dwarves.

[kindred gust]

[sly trout]

hol-e shit that was a hard EDD

[sick yarrow]

Anyone else have a dread spawn in the edd?

or is that random

[tawdry widget]

like as a swarm or as an egg?

[sick yarrow]

mission control says theres seizmic activity then the bar shows up

[tawdry widget]

ok so that would be a swarm replacement so id have to guess you just got unlucky

[sick yarrow]

pretty cool

we got twins iirc

[fresh sedge]

It’s rare but can happen

[agile venture]

i've done my first deep dive. Thought that it wasn't so bad. Should i give EDD a try?

[burnt sandal]

sure, why not

[mellow cradle]

when I was starting doing EDD's, I came into them with a mindset "I'll just snag the blank core, maybe the weapon too if I'm lucky"
and by dipping my toes like this, I got used to them quicker, I feel

[agile venture]

wait, you can get partial rewards?

[mellow cradle]

yeah

[agile venture]

one mission = one core?

blank, weapon, then cosmetic, right?

[mellow cradle]

1st stage gives the blank, next the weapon, and the cosmetic on the last stage

[agile venture]

i see

thanks

generally, i should be focusing on ammo mods more on edd, right?

[still geode]

nah

i usually end my edds with hundreds of spare nitra

[mellow cradle]

it's the opposite, actually

[still geode]

it carries over between stages and each stage usually has more nitra than it takes

[agile venture]

ah

[still geode]

and you want the firepower in order to deal with the third stage as that one goes past haz5

[mellow cradle]

and this week has mini mules, so you'll have even more nitra

[still geode]

i honestly only recently learned that fixing a mule gives nitra

its a nice mechanic

[agile venture]

WHAT

how much

[mellow cradle]

40-60

it's random

[agile venture]

wow

that's amazing

[still geode]

you get gold too i believe

[agile venture]

makes sense though

could be the nitra from the previous mission's team

[spring stirrup]

who lost their lives 💀

[barren citrus]

That feeling when you're fully prepped for the edd, but you're feeling super nervous to jump into lfg to get help with it

Starts sweating

[raven carbon]

I don't have executioner or ECR, I did it yesterday with Loki eraser oc and breach cutter inferno, shredder.

[raven carbon]

This week's edd is not that bad

[barren citrus]

Currently only have LWC on breach cutter for a reliable oc, don't have inferno quite yet atm

[raven carbon]

I would suggest triple split on breach cutter for mactera, if you can avoid damage till you line them up it's very ammo efficient

[raven carbon]

Lwc should be fine too

[raven carbon]

Few things more satisfying in drg than seeing a bunch of mactera melt to one breach cutter shot

[barren citrus]

Also would be lying if I said I felt confident enough to handle doing a solo run for it, and if social anxiety wasn't partially getting in the way

Considering I rarely touch haz 4 when playing solo or with my current play group

[raven carbon]

And extra width of beam on tier 2

[raven carbon]

Have you done deep dives in random lobby before

I almost always do them in random lobbies, have never had a bad experience

[raven carbon]

Hmm tbf edd does get harder than haz 4

[barren citrus]

Nope, usually either do at the very least solo runs if I'm very eager to jump onto getting the first run weekly rewards or if I'm doing it with a friend it's either during the first run through or I'm helping them on my 2nd run through

[raven carbon]

Don't do voice chat if you're feeling anxious, text chat and laser pointer is sufficient

[barren citrus]

Hmmmm, guess I can just try doing public lobbies for it then

[raven carbon]

Yeah I've only had maybe 1 or 2 bad instances in lobbies, as long as you keep communicating people are quite friendly

Just check the language before joining

[barren citrus]

Tho if I'll be clearly honest, and this might come off as a contradicting statement here, I've had games mostly tied to using in-game chat & pinging things which is well and good but the lack of voice communications can feel rather uneasy for me

[raven carbon]

If you're used to playing with friends only on voice chat then it does feel strange initially to do only text chat

But you get used to it quickly

Tbh the contextual laser pointer is amazing

Even chat is unnecessary most of the time

[barren citrus]

Yeah the laser pointer is very solid

I'm gonna go give joining public a shot then

[raven carbon]

Yep go ahead

Good luck

[barren citrus]

Damn seems all the edd lobbies are full atm, guess I'll have to start up my own then

[barren citrus]

Got into a lobby but game disconnected while we were heading to the pod

[agile onyx]

god I hate point defense on high haz

[barren citrus]

Got only as far as stage 3

[coral pond]

Still good for a first time edd

[barren citrus]

The 2nd game was definitely having some lag issues, doubt it's my internet connection cause I was talking to a friend about that earlier

Might've accidentally held x (controller button) which recalled the turrets tho

Engi's a little wonky when I happen to try pressing x to revive someone for example, and it instead goes to recalling the turrets

But I mean that's probably about as good as I'll get with this one I'm feeling

Stage 2 was fucking spooky tho with the hiveguard fight & trying not to die during the uplink process

Leeches were of no concern for me, cause I could lock onto them from a safe distance

[raven carbon]

Loki is pretty good as an enemy scanner

[raven carbon]

Yeah it's like 1.5% or something iirc

[barren citrus]

Definitely coming around to liking it more after this weeks pair of deep dives

Probably not as much as the warthog, which is my general go to for an engi primary but the loki is still pretty solid imo

[raven carbon]

Loki removes the brainwork of aiming and makes you work in a different way to inflict damage, I like it

Also if you're new to the weapon

Yoh might not know

You can actually curve the bullets and it's super useful

For example you can hit praetorians on the weak spot behind even if you're standing in front of them

The intentional curving gets intuitive very fast

[barren citrus]

Interesting

[spiral badge]

Also an OC that does that

[barren citrus]

Welp guess it's back to normal deep dive runs for me then

Don't necessarily feel like trying to the achievement & the cosmetic overclock rewards from stage 3

[south sapphire]

Normal deep dive has a black box on second stage

[barren citrus]

Not during the lagfest I was experiencing

[mellow cradle]

I mean, you got the blank and weaapon cores from the EDD

[south sapphire]

You can drill under it to drop it down to a better spot

[mellow cradle]

that's what's most important

[barren citrus]

Oh yeah that one was a whole lot more managable

For whatever reason when I was doing runs on that, I didn't think to bring my driller

Cause I saw black box as an objective & my brain defaulted to "go play engi" as a result

[south sapphire]

Deep and elite give cores individually

[barren citrus]

Pretty sure my first run through the stage 2 also had a Nemesis spawn, so that was fun

[south sapphire]

Same

It’s always the same isn’t it

Stage 1 had a broken resupp pod

[barren citrus]

My 2nd run through dd stage 2 actually didn't have him pop up tho

[south sapphire]

Huh

[barren citrus]

So I was pretty certain with getting into that one he wasn't a fixed spawn

[south sapphire]

Why do it twice is it for the credits and xp

[barren citrus]

Was helping a friend get his rewards from it

Did the same on the previous weekly deep dive with my driller

[south sapphire]

That’s the only right answer

Did you think of dropping down the black box when you did the second stage

[barren citrus]

Nope I just did it up top where it was placed lol

[south sapphire]

I did it that way

[barren citrus]

Put my turrets down and went to town on the mactera with ECR Loki

[south sapphire]

Big brain

Didn’t use drills

[barren citrus]

Also question, but if I wanted to build a driller freeze loadout with tuned cooler cryo cannon to potentially use on certain deep dive runs what would be a pretty solid build & secondary pairing for it?

[coral pond]

Boiler ray wave cooker, heavy hitter epc, full auto or explosive reload subata

[scarlet lark]

Can i farm DD for money?

[coral pond]

Sure but it's not that efficient

[still geode]

if you want to farm money, look for missions with mineral mania and sell excess minerals

[barren citrus]

Noted

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[river heath]

Electrifying reload or gas rerouting for GK2 for EDD

[fresh sedge]

Mining gold in normal missions is more efficient and that’s not even that good. Mineral mania speed play is best.

Unless there’s a Huuli Hoarder in the first room or something dives are usually bad money.

[kindred coyote]

doin a 4 gunner edd

[kindred coyote]

alright we failed stage 3

BUT the dread was like super fun so eh

and i got sticky fuel i dont even need to do stage 3

[little jay]

How hard is the new edd?

[ember trellis]

1st stage bit of a pain

Also does anyone know whats in store for stage 3 for edd?

[little jay]

it's on the pinned message

[barren citrus]

6 eggs + black box

[ember trellis]

Ok ty

[barren citrus]

Basically as long as you don't trigger double swarms, you should be fine

[dense sage]

after the leech room on edd2, edd3 is a really relaxing end

[candid ermine]

anyone having a lot of trouble with the elite this week?

I've been through 4 lobbies and nobody's made it past lvl 2

the last run was super demoralizing because we finally killed it but the one guy remaining died to a single macterra

[rare rock]

what are deeo dives

[dense sage]

series of 3 pre-seeded missions where you have your resources carry over
you gain access after your first promotion

[rare rock]

im been meaning to do one but idk how lol

[candid yoke]

have you promoted any dwarves yet

[rare rock]

yeah

engi

[candid yoke]

go to the left of the forge terminal area and find the deep dive terminal

then you get access to either hosting a dd lobby or joining one

you cant join a dd thats already in progress

[rare rock]

i mean like idk how they work lol

[candid yoke]

you do the objectives from one stage then extract

resources carry over from each stage

repeat until you finish all 3 stages

[rare rock]

each stage in the same place?

[candid yoke]

same biome but different caves and objectives

[rare rock]

right ok

[mellow cradle]

and there are no side objectives

[rare rock]

oh ok

[mellow cradle]

only primary (one is shorter, like, kill 1 dreadnaught)

[candid yoke]

ye theres no ebonuts, gunk seeds, etc

[mellow cradle]

and each stage has increasing hazard level, and 2 out of 3 stages have a mutator

[rare rock]

ah

sounds fun

can you choose what hazard to start at?

[mellow cradle]

no

[rare rock]

right

can you do as many as you want or only one per week

or somehing

[languid rune]

you can repeat the DD and EDD but you won't get more cores from it

[mellow cradle]

the normal deep dive goes haz 3, 3.5, 3.5
the elite one hoes haz 4.5, 5, 5.5

[candid yoke]

you get 1 core per individual stage

[languid rune]

regular DD is 3-3.5-3.5 and the EDD is 4.5-5-5.5

[rare rock]

what does that mean lol

[languid rune]

hazard level

[rare rock]

cores give you overclocks and stuff right?

whats 3.5?

[candid yoke]

3.5 hazard level

[mellow cradle]

a hazard level between 3 and 4

[rare rock]

oh

lol

[candid yoke]

it changes each stage

[rare rock]

ok

is it normal to solo them?

[mellow cradle]

if you want to

[candid yoke]

yep

[mellow cradle]

I do

[languid rune]

for your first time I'd try it with a team

[rare rock]

if i do stsart solo can i lpay with friends later?

like during another stage

[languid rune]

no, if you start it solo you must finish it solo

[rare rock]

rightok

[languid rune]

you can't invite players during a DD

[candid yoke]

people cannot join once the drop pod takes off

[rare rock]

do you need to do each stage right after each other

or can u take a break

[candid yoke]

if your solo then you can press ESC to pause

if not in solo then you just have to do it

[rare rock]

right ok

cool

[mellow cradle]

there's a tranistion screen in which you have to press continue to go to the next stage

you can take a break there

[rare rock]

but you acnt go to the station

[candid yoke]

no

[rare rock]

right

[languid rune]

if you're quick they can be as short as 25 minutes, but typically for new players they're 45 minutes to an hour

[rare rock]

per stage or per dd?

[candid yoke]

per dd

[rare rock]

oh wow

my average mission is like 30 mins - 45 mins lol

but i do take my time

[languid rune]

you have a lot of nitra in the last stages so there's no need to mine more

worth pointing out that there's no benefit for mining more nitra like there is in normal missions, so if you have enough, stop mining

[rare rock]

thers benefit for mining more in normal missions?

[languid rune]

yes, you get more XP

[rare rock]

oh

i didnt know that#

i thought it was just binned

i waste so much nitra

[languid rune]

it's all minerals mined whether you use it or not

it just calculates how many you've mined over the course of the mission

so there's no harm in using all your nitra

[rare rock]

ohhh ok

i didnt know that haha

[gusty cargo]

I sure am glad the regular deep dive decided to throw literally the ENTIRE population of Hoxxes at me for ONE black box :|

Sure am glad I spent all that time building the cross-map pipelines that came with the black box for nothing :|

I love this game but GOD do I have some problems with the liquid morkite missions lmao

[rare rock]

6 eggs rip

[novel epoch]

so i am a stubborn little dwarf who wants to do his first ever deep dive solo
already at stage 2 and i am barely hanging on
at least i still have 2 bosco revives and iron will just in case

o hey i didn't realize the 3 stages were pinned here haha
6 eggs ok sounds easy enough but damn that's a lotta eggs

[river pumice]

I will never not play driller on liquid morkite

[fading scroll]

MActera Plague with half of them being trijaws was hell

At least the area around the refinery is open

[tranquil pond]

Question: Does the Driller's primary, Sludgepump, have "built-in" Armor Breaking?

[mellow cradle]

it melts armor by default, yes

[tranquil pond]

huh..good to know, thank you

[wraith shard]

it doesn't affect armor or is affected by armor

[coral pond]

Guard stripping with the sludge pump is hilarious

[burnt sandal]

it's not affected by armor but it does melt it

[wraith shard]

hm.. my bad

[mellow cradle]

naked guard steevie 😳

[granite badger]

My first deep dive was solo and the second stage was haunted kill 2 dreadnoughts and get 4? eggs. Rough.

[spiral badge]

Don’t try to do haunted cave on your own brutha/sista

[candid yoke]

likely went in blind, not their fault

[bitter canyon]

naked glyphid

[cobalt steppe]

hey someone wants to play dd or edd?

[wary grove]

just did my first deep dive!

what do blank matrix cores do?

[still geode]

they can be turned into an overclock by doing a machine event

you'll randomly come across them during missions, you can tell it's one by the white box next to them with a triangular hole in the top

[wary grove]

ah tysm

[granite badger]

I ain't afraid of no ghosts. I'm a little afraid of that ghost

[dense obsidian]

Can I ask for a little help? I want to challenge myself and try to do EDD solo but I can't decide which class and build to choose for that. Can show a list of unlocked OCs if needed

[still geode]

gunner is probably the most suitable

[spiral badge]

I am too 🤣 that guy is like sonic the hedgehog dude, going solo he’s just always on your butt

[violet raptor]

what are the chances of a dreadnought spawn on a deep dive?

[coral pond]

Like, a random spawn? Same as any other mission it can happen in, 1%

[frail patrol]

Do we know if the lithophage outbreak hazard will become available in deep dives going forward, just like rival presence?

[barren citrus]

As someone who's done it as scout, I can back this statement up

Tis some spooky shit

[wraith shard]

The elite deep dive this week really really really sucks lmao

Mactera Swarms in the first level
Second Level with all the leeches in the one room

[white needle]

2 guys looking for 2 other guys to do a deep dive

Anyone up for it?

[ocean charm]

117317585409802242

[white needle]

Found our guys

[compact dock]

Bro the elite deep dive stage two is rediculous lol

So many cave leeches and naedocyte breeders

Or however on Hoxxes you spell there name

[pallid stirrup]

can a beginner ask a question?

[warped veldt]

yes

[pallid stirrup]

In what kind of perks do I need to invest to?

I got just over 50 perk points

[celest ruin]

Dash, field medic, iron will, resupplier, born ready, vampire

[silver blaze]

I like vampire, thorns and ressuplier for passive and for active iron will and field medic. but is really up to you with what you like.

[pallid stirrup]

I want to do more dmg

[celest ruin]

Berserker maybe

But that's usually in the realm of overclocks, not perks

[silver blaze]

the only difference for me is that I use born ready and shield link for gunner

[pallid stirrup]

That make sense

[pallid stirrup]

I will look into that

[silver blaze]

beast master is one of the must fun, you should try it

[pallid stirrup]

Thats how you can get the spiders to be your pets

[silver blaze]

and at max level the bug will do a lot of dmg

[silver blaze]

yes

[pallid stirrup]

That looks fun

[celest ruin]

Steve is more an aggro magnet than anything

But fun

[silver blaze]

true

[pallid stirrup]

Also how do you guys surivive the magma core map while fighting the dreadnaughts. At one point the floor just became lava.

[pine jetty]

Platforms

Make important paths with it and try not to make a giant bridge triangle or something.

[robust fox]

What are some advice for a deep dive starter who is a scout

[shadow trench]

the heightened senses perk will be of use if you plan to go off scouting alone since you will be able to escape the grasp of a cave leech. try hit and run tactics and if its dangerous run

you can always go back and kill a enemy if your alive

[robust fox]

Ty for not telling me I did wrong with the scout as first promotion

[digital grail]

If you’re early level, just go with what you feel would help you. If you find X most annoying, get the perk that makes that less annoying.

Perks aren’t so much part of a build and dealing DPS or anything. The strategy isn’t too complex. Go with what makes your game better.

Later you’ll find that iron will is basically the best - it’s just an extra life basically.

But that’s more necessary in multiplayer Haz 5

And dash

Dash rules

[shadow trench]

^this man is right. i prefer quick revive on deep dives before promo tho since it fits what i do

[digital grail]

Quick revives are nice. Me and my buddy used to rely on that more than iron will during eliminations when we were newbs

[spark yacht]

I like dash, IW and the sprint one. Beast master is good too. depends on your play style. If you play driller a lot Vampire is good becuase you basically have unlimited health

[wraith shard]

I love beastmaster

Steeve my beloved

[spiral badge]

https://tenor.com/view/drpaulbearer-doctorpaulbearer-paulbearer-axe-askmeanything-gif-8170067

[kind mist]

Born ready for auto loading, sweet tooth for more health from crystals, and i use resupplier for quicker resups, also field medic and beastmaster

If u play driller do vampire and cryo gun with extra drill damage and youll be unstoppable

[digital grail]

And axes count as melee damage, so shattering bugs with that also helps.

[bright sonnet]

Does everyone in the game have the same two deep dives until it changes? Or is it like, personal

[mellow cradle]

everyone plays the same dives every week

[bright sonnet]

Okay makes sense

[spiral badge]

Just did normal DD, cryo driller is the way

Make sure you’ve got good range and high freezing power on it though, and in stage 2 dig a side hole and absolutely dunk on the mactera horde

1 and 3 aren’t too bad at all, 2 I had to be careful as there’s way too many flyers

[wraith shard]

The normal DD isn't so bad yeah

The elite one absolutely sucks though

[mellow cradle]

(I pinged the mods in a different channel already btw)

[dense obsidian]

My solo EDD experience this week:
Got caught on stage 1 by swarm, without any ammo on driller and 5 morkite chunks off to call drop pod. That was devastating

[kind mist]

Yes 🙂

[kind mist]

Solo edd is lethal

[tardy frost]

Just did this weeks elite deep dive as my first ever solo and it was pretty tought. Only went down two times tho

[tardy frost]

But the ammo management was very difficult. In stage 2 i accidently startet the dreadnoght with my leadbursters with 0 ammo

[languid rune]

I took a joke build into the EDD and regretted it dearly. I made it through but it took me 15 extra minutes lol

did not help that the first stage had practically no nitra

[tardy frost]

What was your best time?

[languid rune]

I didn't bother doing it a second time, but my average time for EDDs is about 30–35 minutes; this one took 45+

[tardy frost]

I only finished it solo i had problems with mates constantly leaving so i did it alone

Mine took one hour and 11 minutes

[languid rune]

ouch! what class?

[tardy frost]

Gunner

[languid rune]

mm, yeah, it could take a while

that Hiveguard was annoying as hell. not because he was difficult but because he waddled over to the drop pod and absolutely wrecked the landscape

[tardy frost]

I wouldn't wanna try facing the mactera pleauge without shield

[languid rune]

it was unpleasant but luckily the build had cryo grenades

[dense obsidian]

Last canister loaded, 30 minutes in already, no satchels to make emergency bunker. Desperately trying to find last bits of morkite. "Mactera Swarm incoming". And that's where my heart dropped, so as my morale. I died fighting in melee

[tardy frost]

Luckily in the last stage i had plenty of nitra so i could resupply generously

[opaque yacht]

what weapons are probably best in general for engi (without overclocks still unlocking them)

[still geode]

warthog and breach cutter

12321 for warthog

for breach
t1: duration if you want double range, magsize if you want 3 more total ammo
t2: total ammo or width
t3: quick deploy if you're running born ready (if you're not running born ready, run born ready)
t4: stun 100%, breach cutter already ignores armor by default + it has enough armor break to remove all the armor for your other weapons by default
t5: plasma trail for slightly more dps and if you want to keep an area clear of swarmers, triple split line if you want to use it on uneven terrain or against mactera swarms

[opaque yacht]

huh

so i was passively runing optimal breach

using the triple line since lot of the time i deal with un even terrain and height elevation

and can actually deal with aerial targets

[velvet raptor]

why even use leadburster? Only thing it can do is kill bulk dets or am i missing something

[mellow cradle]

well, you can also use it in normal grenade situations

[tardy frost]

It's quite handy for dealing with any sort of mactera or even breeders

[spark yacht]

Just don't throw it at your teammates

[mellow cradle]

or near dreadnaught cocoons

[spark yacht]

I don't play gunner near enough

[placid musk]

it's good swarm clear even without the bulk killing

[pallid stirrup]

Thank for your tips guys!

[fresh sedge]

Because it’s really good and most likely has the highest swarm kill potential in 3 dimensional space out of all the grenades.

Sticky’s are just “ok”. Clusters aren’t bad but not amazing because of the number of little ones. Fire grenades are easy to use but often redundant outside of a VB proc. Leadbursters offer then something else nothing else does. Killing upward and outward incredibly well.

[still geode]

murders groups of macteras too and it also is very good at catching leeches if thrown into uncleared rooms

[eager flame]

Leadbursters also have the fun factor of ''accidentaly'' popping dread eggs

[tall adder]

the many bullets going in perfect circle makes me go ":3"

[eager flame]

Ah, and if you want to pop something other than bulks, you can skip entire heal phases of the twins with 2-3 leadbursters, specially on the lacerator since it runs towards you making it easier to throw them below it

The damage it dishes out is insane

[shell cosmos]

Didn’t know that the breach already had enough armor breaking to clear off armor, I might just switch to stun then.

[still geode]

even inferno breach ends up taking chunks of armor off some enemies and that one reduces armor break by 75%

[shell cosmos]

I got Pots O Gold for the deep dive this week, and there were SO many veins.

My friend and I came out with 1997 gold, could have been more but I passed up a tiny vein or two and, oh yeah, my friend forgot to drink the beer
I mined most of the gold but he definitely did a couple veins

Also there was a Hulli Hoarder in the first stage, I didn’t know they could spawn in deep dives since you normally don’t get region materials. But I found out that they get multiplied significantly if you do, cause we only got 30-35 of each material but got like 90 or so at the end.

[coral pond]

Hoarders are the only way to get regional ores in deep dives

[low jungle]

hey, i lagged and disconnected just before drop pod leaving on stage 2, resulting in not getting a weapon overclock. Can i message someone to get that or must I do the deep dive again

proof #drg-gallery message

[verbal dust]

How hard is the elite deep dive?

[fresh sedge]

This weeks is middle of the road as far as they go. Not bad not too easy.

Approachable I would say.

[woeful niche]

i pretty much exclusively use leadbursters nowadays

[opaque yacht]

what overclocks are favoured on the warthog and breach cutter?

[woeful niche]

warthog anything that isn’t minishells
Breach cutter id say lwc and inferno are considered the best

[spiral badge]

I might have inferno

[tulip lily]

can you join an elite deep dive mid mission?

[warm basalt]

in my opinion it was easy af

[random rampart]

you cant join any deep dive mid-progress, unless you had a connection issue

[tulip lily]

ok thanks

[random rampart]

if that happens, you should have a prompt for joining back

[jade sluice]

you can if you have them friended on steam

[upper ether]

someone knows whats the best attachments for the engis shotgun?

[coral pond]

12321 generally speaking

[upper ether]

damn

[primal venture]

Wow this EDD is crazy

I freaking hate tri jaws

[calm sky]

This man got hacked 💀

@grim sandal

[primal venture]

Ok this EDD is insane

Spawned a detonator during charging phase

What would I do without bullets of mercy

[reef sundial]

i lost connection on stage 3

[lofty parrot]

Tbh deep dives are a skill issue

Used think they were insane but now they’re eh

[reef sundial]

would be a good idea to have an option to rejoin

[wraith shard]

Probably gonna try the EDD again tonight
For the fourth time

[placid musk]

i didn't have any bulks, unlucky

[placid musk]

you can by looking up recently played with gamers and join from their profiles if it's public

but it's not the best solution

[full saddle]

i killed the hiveguard on stage 2 with a bulk 👍

[wraith shard]

👍

[hazy hull]

Anyone wanna help me with the elite deep dive?

[trim moss]

I'm up for some EDD 🙂

[wide forum]

why is there nemesis at 2nd stage of dd

rival jumpscare

[full saddle]

😰

[outer cloud]

that nemesis got crushed by the refinery on my dive

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[violet raptor]

Be glad you didn’t have a dread spawn on the second stage

[spiral badge]

Dread? Eek. I had a warden and an oppressor or 2

[floral minnow]

I had nemesis on dds1

[faint jay]

whats the difference between deep dives and elite deep dives?

[mellow cradle]

the stages in a deep dive have a hazard level of 3, 3.5, 3.5 and two out of three stages will have mutators
in an elite deep dive, the hazard levels go 4.5, 5, 5.5, and either two or three stages will have a mutator

[faint jay]

oh

ok

[mellow cradle]

otherwise they are the same

[faint jay]

ty

[mellow cradle]

oh, and I guess this may not be obvious, but they are not the same mission
they are in a different biome, and have different objectives each

all of which you can see in this channel's pinned messages

[gritty skiff]

when do deep dives reset?

[coral pond]

In 18 hours, as it states on the pinned message

[gritty skiff]

oh im stupid

thank you anyway

[humble cypress]

Looking for a normal deep dive

[soft token]

what’s a good build for abusing the focus shot

since the spamming hipster build is getting needed in season 4

rn i’m using 11111 hoverclock

[mellow cradle]

ASS or EFS probably

hoverclock is also good

[mellow cradle]

I strongly recommend you take armor break

[soft token]

armor break literally only applies to praetorians and shellbacks though

[mellow cradle]

nope

[soft token]

and the dread twins if you want to get technical

[mellow cradle]

it applies to grunts too

they have light armor

[soft token]

i’m already one shotting grunts through their armor though

armor breaking doesn’t matter at that point

[mellow cradle]

on haz 5 4 players?

[soft token]

my honest power attack reaction

[mellow cradle]

ah, I guess the increased focus shot damage already gives you that breakpoint

still, you won't get that breakpoint with two normal body shots

and shellbacks are annyoing

[still geode]

armor break gives you the 1shot on web spitters without focus shots

also lets u shoot brundles through their armor

[barren citrus]

Not entirely sure if trying to retry the edd, just to get the cosmetic oc reward is necessarily worth it at this point

Tho tbf I'd probably try scout if I wanted to redo that particular one

[ancient cove]

All DDs done, all Assignments done, ready for Season 4

[barren citrus]

I mean the achievement checked off would be nice, but is it worth revisiting mactera & hiveguard hell for?

[mellow cradle]

you can just get it next week

[barren citrus]

Hmmmm

[mellow cradle]

but it may not neccesarily be easier

[barren citrus]

Yeah I mean I did technically get a good taste of how punishing anything higher than haz 5 can be

Not 100% sure if I'll try tackling the following edds, given how I generally manage with the dd's

[woeful niche]

it applies to grunts, praetorians, brundles, ahellbacks, twins, and spitters i think

armor break just does alot more then the other mods on that tier

i’d argue it’s the most unbalanced mod tier on m1. The only time u don’t take ab is on scc

[soft token]

i don’t think ive ever seen the brundle

[coral pond]

ain't no way

[still geode]

no way

unless u have like 10h of playtime or exclusively play haz1

[spiral badge]

Not oppressors?

[shut cosmos]

Oppressors have heavy (unbreakable) armour, same for the new Stingtails

[spiral badge]

That would explain why they’re bullet sponges

[shut cosmos]

Shoot their green ass, don't waste ammo anywhere else

[spiral badge]

Yeah when that’s an option

[torn sinew]

Fire, Ice, Corrision, Explosions and piercing works pretty good on them too

[shut cosmos]

Oppy is 66% resistant to fire and corrosive, 50% resistant to ice and piercing

[torn sinew]

Doesn't mean immune

[shut cosmos]

Yeah I wouldn't call that "works pretty good"

[torn sinew]

Didn't say "The best" either

[spiral badge]

Lok1 seeker rounds should auto seek oppy’s butt, correct?

[coral pond]

you forgot the 66% explosive resistance

driller is essentially the worst one to deal with opps. Cryo helps cause frozen damage + axes, but it's still not great considering their warming/cooling rate

[torn sinew]

True

[still geode]

one of the best weapons against oppressors is power attack, especially with the damage mod

won't kill them on its own, but can chunk a large portion of its HP even through its armor

[barren citrus]

If drillers are having issues with oppressors, that sounds like a skill issue considering I either pop them with sticky fuel + thermoshock or sludge pump + explosive reload their green butt to death when I'm playing driller

Drillers have the war crimes loadout for a good reason lol

[full crescent]

yh flame em and colette cook em

[barren citrus]

I don't use the freezing build enough to really have the knowledge of whether that's a truly viable alternative tho

[coral pond]

i didn't say he'd really have issues, he's just not the best at killing opps considering the oppressor resists all of driller's damage types except melee with the axes/drills

[barren citrus]

Fair enough

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[karmic zenith]

How does doing deep dives close to the reset work out?

Like if you enter the mission with 10 minutes left in Week A before the reset, new missions come up and then you finish in Week B.

Does Week A's mission just complete normally then Week B's mission is available to do normally?
Do you just get kicked out of the Week A mission?
Do you get rewards from the Week A mission that you're in, then become unable to get rewards from the Week B mission since you technically earned rewards during Week B?
etc

[dense pebble]

if I had to guess, it works the same way as normal missions on the 30 minute reset.

so, starting 30 seconds before reset shouldn't be an issue.

and the new one is still available.

but I haven't actually tried it

[river pumice]

As far as I know, yes you just complete the missions for the deep dive and once you're done, the reset missions are then available. Same as for regular missions if you get in them before the 30 mins reset, you just complete it normally

[coarse wharf]

decided to go solo EDD for the first time

result in #drg-gallery

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[mellow cradle]

inb4 lithophage outbreak on a dive

[sly kettle]

Soon™

[ancient cove]

Will the new season start before new Deep Dive or after? 🤔

[dense sage]

<t:1686826800:R> for both.

[ancient cove]

So "before"

[woeful niche]

they launch at the same time

every new season releases on thursday alongside the new content

[candid bobcat]

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[ancient cove]

It's UPDATING

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone!

[ancient cove]

oh no, all the mods are outdated now

[eager flame]

Another week another deep dive

[candid bobcat]

Elite Deep Dive "Gunner's Foot" (2023-06-15 to 2023-06-22)
Region: Crystalline Caverns
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + Twins | Rival Presence + Rich Atmosphere
Stage 2: 2 Mini-mules + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: Escort Duty + 2 Mini-mules

Deep Dive "Spineless Let-down" (2023-06-15 to 2023-06-22)
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone
Stage 1: 3 Mini-mules + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 2: 250 Morkite + 2 Mini-mules | Shield Disruption
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 2 Mini-mules | Critical Weakness

{"Seed":1871665548,"SeedV2":2,"ExpirationTime":"2023-06-22T11:00:00Z"}

[zenith ember]

huh looks kinda tame for the week

[thorn jewel]

“Spineless let-down” is a great insult

[pliant yoke]

That’s a very tame set of DDs

Rival Presence on EDD1 might be a bit of a pain to get through, but the rest is smooth sailing

[still geode]

7 mini mule deep dive

[restive elk]

boo shield disruption

[still geode]

youll have a lot of nitra becuase of the 3 mule stage1

[thorn jewel]

Can we have 9 mini mule dives? Or do the primary objectives not repeat

[sly kettle]

That's a lot of mini-mules..

[analog cobalt]

A lot of teams have lost some mules in the normal deep dive. Are there any ingame hints to how long ago drg switched to one big mule instead of the mini-mules?

[supple crest]

cave is small so there isnt much turrets

[pliant yoke]

That’s good to know, I suppose. I will see it for myself later today, maybe

[still geode]

you also have rich atmo, which makes it far easier to dodge the turret shots and get up close to them

though since it's 6 egg the welcome party would likely be mixed with the turrets, and throwing leadburster grenades (which are usually quite good at clearing out caves in these situations) might pop the dread egg

[zenith ember]

dread egg is in a pretty bad position

1 giant pit with narrow tunnels

[stone yacht]

Damn, just saw the patch notes. Good to see that the worse overclocks for my favorite weapon (Hurricane) got buffed, with them fixing plasma burster missles and guidenance cutoff getting reworked. Subatta got reworked for Driller which is nice. R.I.P. neurotoxin payload nerf but it needed to happen honestly, and its nice to see the carpet bomber buff. As it's always been: why take Carpet over Neurotoxin.

[eager flame]

Alright, i'm here, time to update

It'll take like, 10 mins

[stone yacht]

Nice to see Drak - Shield Booster OC get a change too

[eager flame]

Aaaand, it is updated now

Back to sleep 🛏️

[full saddle]

thanks boss

[zenith ember]

nice greenbeard driller decided to "bunker" the box without saying anything

love failing an unfailable run

[bitter canyon]

Good greenbeard

hes got the spirit

[eager flame]

People who want to bunker need to learn the double layer, so others still have a choice wether they want to be in the bunker or not

Best of both worlds

[zenith ember]

Mine just decided that drilling all the way down to bedrock = bunker

[eager flame]

Wha

Now that is trolling

Kid just felt like doing a bit of tomfoolery that day

[bitter canyon]

Teach them then

[eager flame]

Gonna make a Paint image to make it even easier

[still geode]

ntp nerf doesn't change much unless you're going for the karl would be proud achievement, tbh

[pliant yoke]

Carpet Bomber changes don’t seem that much relevant, either. It’s better than it used to be, but I don’t see how it beats NTP with how currently Autocannon as a whole fares

[stone yacht]

well, an improvement for Carpet Bomber is an improvement. And yeah NTP nerf wasn't that drastic ur right.

Gonna test rocket barrage and new plasma bursters now tho. Also plan to try the subatta and carpet bomber.

Just built rocket barrage for single target damage. 12 RoF vs the prior 5 being the max previously (with overtuned feed mech being one of my fav ocs) seems cool. Love the huge increase to ammo with this

[wild granite]

why is the edd called "gunner's foot"?

[pliant yoke]

Because that’s how the management called it

[naive wraith]

how deep...

[modest rapids]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[young yew]

New dives sound fun

[zenith ember]

alot of bulks on my edd, pretty funny with stingtails because i wasnt the one getting hooked

[mellow cradle]

lel

[barren citrus]

New deep dive, as far as the normal one goes looks fairly easy & straight forward

Mules, eggs & morkite

Might actually go with playing gunner on this one tbh

90% of my runs are just engi tbh, and like maybe 8% are with driller

[dry root]

this week's dd is ok right

[still geode]

do you like mini mules

[young yew]

They're cute

[spiral badge]

Half dozen more eggs and an army of mules. Doable.

Shield disruption boo

[dry root]

yes

[dry root]

ok ty good to know

[still geode]

you are going to like this weeks deep dive

[dry root]

awesome

also the hipster change is great

kay going in rn with 2 scouts no gunner

let's see how this goes

[zenith ember]

o jet boots can spawn in dd

[spiral badge]

Nice

[thorny garnet]

yall got lore for your dwarves?

[jovial garden]

That damn Sting Tail when going for the resupply pod AFTER using my Iron Will.

Leave me alone

YOINK

Also yoinking you to a pit if it has the high-ground.

[barren citrus]

Ending up mostly seeing septic spreaders during my dd run

No stingtail sightings whatsoever

[worn anchor]

doing an EDD for my second ever deep dive was not one of my wiser moments

[tight willow]

[turbid dawn]

they should have similar spawn rates afaik

but rng can be weird

[barren spear]

his deep dive hard to do under 1 hour ?

[dense pebble]

Regular deep dive? Easy 45 minutes or less usually

[worn anchor]

yeah regular should be easy, just make sure all members have a good internet connection because you can't join back into DDs

And if you lose two players in the middle of a 4p balanced swarm it's painful

[worn anchor]

The temptation to make some is quite strong, but not yet.

[thorny garnet]

do it

[woeful niche]

stingtails are a disruptor class enemy so there is a chance they aren’t even in the spawn pool

[barren citrus]

Interesting

[fathom spade]

Is there a place to see the cosmetics in the performance pass and cosmetic tree without logging in?

[wraith shard]

Wait there's like, different classes? How do I know what enemies are in what class

[woeful niche]

The wiki

[devout peak]

The missions for Xbox this week are incorrect

[civic yoke]

What do u mean

[next blaze]

Xbox and PS are still on the previous season, so the seed will be different for DDs this week

[willow badge]

what even is this server like bruh lol

[civic yoke]

is it? already did the normal deep dive and it was the same as in the pinned message

[next blaze]

Maybe?? I thought that's what happens with season changes

Coulda sworn I saw people saying that the previous couple ones

[scarlet lark]

Hows this weeks EDD?

[wide forum]

i guess this week is mini mules' week

[glossy walrus]

in previous seasons the main thing that would change were that the new hazard on pc side was replaced by some old hazard the console side, the map and mission types were still generally the same

I don't see any new hazards this season, so I wouldn't expect much different

[real crown]

hey yall i just finished my first deep dive, whats the thing next to my money?

i'd upload a screenshot but i don't have the perms yet cuz i'm too green i think

[wraith shard]

Probably an empty OC, do a machine event in a normal mission and you can insert it into the machine to get a random OC. You'll have 3 choices, between 2 weapon OCs and 1 cosmetic OC. What you receive will be random in that pool for the class you selected. You'll still have to craft it at the forge.

OC = overclock, an extra modifier for weapons that often drastically change how it operates
cosmetic "overclocks" exist, but they're just special in that you get them through the overclock system

[dense sage]

blank matrix core, reward for stage 1 of the deep dive / elite deep dive / weekly core hunt

[real crown]

thanks guys!

[wraith shard]

I was looking at the wiki and I didn't see it :c am I dumb lol

[last lily]

this weeks elite deep dive is a nightmare

[wraith shard]

Right?
Last week's wasn't great either, but the week before that was easy

[dense sage]

last week’s edd was way more manageable than the swarms two weeks ago

[wraith shard]

True
I guess I got lucky two weeks ago with who I was with and how we did

[sinful narwhal]

I think reading lobby names that are "drink the random potion or else" is the funniest thing to me

[ivory sparrow]

rip xbox players 😢

oh wait

[sinful narwhal]

"its haz 5"
"drink the damn tik tok juice"

[ivory sparrow]

im dumb, please ignore me

[spiral badge]

Just did normal DD solo. It’s super easy

[spiral badge]

console is exactly as listed I can confirm

[next blaze]

Ah dang, my bad!

[spiral badge]

I decided to try it earlier than I usually do to see if your theory was correct

[next blaze]

Thanks for checking! I wonder how I got that preconception then

[alpine smelt]

I'd rate this week's DD a 4 out of 10. Below average.

I'd rate this week's EDD a 3 out of 10, unusually below average.

Where 1 is so easy a cave man could do it.

And 10 being only 1% of people can complete it.

[barren citrus]

I'm actually curious if this week's EDD is a hard one or not

[alpine smelt]

Well, you have have a rival presence in EDD1.

But the big feature, the turrets, get cucked by their terrain. They appear on a cliff with descending ledges.

Meaning they have to shoot up at you, so you have a natural advantage.

The boss is the Twins which are the softest of the bosses.

EDD2 is just a salvage op with regenerative bugs, but you can flip the script on them with Beast Master since your Steeve inherits the bonuses of regen bugs.

[barren citrus]

Mhm

[alpine smelt]

EDD3 is a vanilla escort mission.

If you can do Haz5 escort, you can do EDD3.

[barren citrus]

Haven't gotten haz 5 unlocked myself, only real experience with it was from last week's EDD being my first one

[alpine smelt]

Last week I rated a 1 out of 10.

Easiest of all EDDs I've seen. This one is harder but not extremely.

My EDD1 had a complication.

A Nemesis spawned, and the Nemesis released the boss fight.

But I feel like that is an anamoly and won't happen every time.

[barren citrus]

Ended up wiping to the first of the 3 triggered swarms on that one, tho tbf I ended up accidentally recalling turrets as engi during the first swarm (was trying to go revive a downed teammate)

But I mean I did get past the salvage + hiveguard stage on that one tho

[alpine smelt]

You should definitely work on Haz5.

[barren citrus]

I gotta definitely get started on the haz 5 unlock assignment for sure

[alpine smelt]

I often coach people how to play, and some things can only be experienced by slashing open your body and salting the bloody wounds. That's how Haz5 is.

Only way to learn Haz5 is to go in and get your ass kicked a few times.

[barren citrus]

Fair enough

But yeah might actually try this weeks EDD at least for more weapon oc's

Think I'll have roughly 29 or so left if I got those

[alpine smelt]

Yeah you only gotta beat the first 2 missions if you want all the weapon OCs.

I did the 2 Season 4 story assignments on Haz5, and most of them were much harder than this week's EDD

I had an on-site refinement with 3 bulk detonators.

2 of them appeared before I could even collect enough nitra for my first ammo pod.

I was running around with the enhanced running speed searching for about 20 nitra I needed to collect an ammo pod while fleeing enemies.

Some of the hardest EDD missions are also some of the most epic though.

[barren citrus]

Gunner might be a good choice to go with for this week's EDD, at least that's what I'm currently thinking anyways

Kind of don't wanna go engi this time around

[alpine smelt]

Gunner is a good choice.

Gunner is very powerful in escort.

Can solo the rocks and the beamers with his autocannon.

[barren citrus]

Still don't have NTP for mine atm, tho leadstorm should be good at least ammo wise?

[alpine smelt]

Even a vanilla autocannon is decent. I like the Big Bertha OC for the autocannon because it punches holes through people's bodies.

Trade AOE damage for big boost in direct hit damage.

[barren citrus]

I think I'm still currently stuck with both clean overclocks & the balanced one that isn't carpet bomber atm

[alpine smelt]

Even no OCs will work. The autocannon blasts huge chunks out of the beamers.

It takes 1-2 direct hits for the autocannon to kill a beamer if you hit its tip.

ANd the huge drum magazine means you can overwatch the rocks and kill large quantities of them without needing to reload.

[civic yoke]

not very accurate tho

[alpine smelt]

Yeah, you do have to get closer, but you'll be trapped in close to midrange combat during the escort anyways.

[civic yoke]

i was so unlucky one time, shot like 20 bullets and none hit lol

[barren citrus]

Could maybe use composite drums if I realistically wanted to have the ammo upgrade

[civic yoke]

good old fun killer

[alpine smelt]

The machinegun will work too. It just has more a of a "shredding" effect on the beamers rather than just blasting a gaping hole in them.

I don't think NTP will help you against rocks though. They should be immune to neurotoxin.

[civic yoke]

can always bring brt

[alpine smelt]

I think NTP serves best in missions where there is a Point Extraction. The NTP is most effective when the enemies cluster together a lot.

[barren citrus]

Also not 100% sure as to why, but when I did the DD earlier this morning I decided to just yolo with gunner & go with the hurricane + overtuned feed mechanism for my primary

[alpine smelt]

Well, DD tops out at Hazard 3.5, so I think you can use basically whatever you think is fun for DD and do fine.

[barren citrus]

It honestly didn't go too bad during the run either

Pretty sure I also went with lead spray burst pistol for big boys like praetorians & oppressors

[civic yoke]

i usually play it on any mission unless there is robots, it just makes swarms almost too easy with fear

[tacit jungle]

yeah NTP is the second most relaxing playstyle of gently clicking every grunt one (1) time

[alpine smelt]

It can be slower though.

[tacit jungle]

the first is rolling your face across your mouse to spread sticky flames then watching bugs die

[alpine smelt]

I'm often a man on a mission, and I need the bugs dead faster than NTP provides except when there is an ungodly quantity of them in 1 place.

[civic yoke]

people said it was nerfed but i actually thought it was a buff with the damage penalty removal

[dense sage]

Rebalanced

[civic yoke]

yeah I guess that's the right word

[barren citrus]

Honestly not 100% what weapon loadout I'd go for if I did potentially want to do the EDD with engi

[wraith shard]

I’d suggest laser, given it’s rival presence and twins first stage

[alpine smelt]

I like the Smart Gun / Shard Diffractor.

Smart Gun takes a while to get used to, but what it does is free up your brain processing IRL.

It requires basically no aim, so the % of your brain focused on aiming correctly (the part that causes you to get tunnel vision) is basically eliminated meaning you can fight the enemy and parkour to platform away from the enemy.

Or it will release you from tunnel vision allowing you to simultaneously thin out the enemy while also being aware of your surroundings 360 degrees.

The Shard Diffractor can be used as a panic weapon to blast away enemies who get too close or snipe priority enemies.

With the Dazzler Module, you can also slow down bosses allowing others to attack its weak points for maximum damage.

[rapid totem]

hows this weeks deep dive?

[alpine smelt]

Easier than average.

[jagged rapids]

Hosting EDD:
#lfg-playstation message

[desert lynx]

aw fuck rival presence

how hard is this week?(edd)

wondering whether I should go hoverclock + zhukovs or temp shock driller

[spiral badge]

Regular was easy. I usually take 2 tries solo but I did it pretty easy first try

Stage 3 the eggs and mules are spread out a bit so just use your terrain scanner a lot

[coral pond]

lots of mules = lots of nitra

[spiral badge]

I had so much leftover nitra I could open an ammo shop on the rig

[worn anchor]

I met some low-level nitra fiends in an escort duty mission once and told them they'd be considered mad even in an EDD

[jagged rapids]

EDD this week is on the rougher side. I just finished it and wow

Haven't been humbled like that in a long while in DRG. Had 11 downs (I think we had 32 cross the team).

Had 2 folks at rank 400+ and 2 around 100. Solid team but damn, this dive wants you dead

S1 is just... Annoying. Couple crap caves with tunnels full of electric crystals to get there

S2.... Just wants you dead without using any cheap tricks. Just dense swarms, mactera and no rest. Very open cave to use tho so it's not too terrible, just keep moving and know how to get out of the little valleys

S3 is is an onslaught of enemies. Dotty does thru a tight cave too so enemies are right on your for a bit but it's doable. We only lost 1 section of plating and used 2 iron wills

[olive thicket]

We lost one dwarf due to the scorpion yeeting him 2500 distance away so far, we couldnt see him with our locator

On the S2 mission

[barren citrus]

VIR sounds like the perfect oc to get that job done with the shard diffractor

[barren citrus]

I actually did start using it during last weeks DD & EDD runs respectively, and the stage 2 on the latter with having it made the cave leech cluster super easy to deal with

I'm assuming the executioner & volatile impact reactor would make a great loadout pair?

[still geode]

yes

[alpine smelt]

I often use the Seeker which lets you attack just about every enemy from any angle. You can shoot bosses or oppressors head on and still hit their weak point.

DPS is lower due to lower shooting speeds, but accuracy is nearly perfect or literally perfect. Only a few enemies can fool the Seeker OC.

[still geode]

the dps loss is such a pain though

and against the majority of enemies you really don't need the armor bypass

[wraith shard]

I BEAT THE EDD

WITH ONE RANDOM AND THREE FRIENDS

Two

Two friends

Me, one random and two buds of mine

[barren citrus]

Seeker is actually the last Smart Rifle oc that I'm missing, but aside from executioner I do also have explosive chemical rounds

[alpine smelt]

I think that more depends on what your 2ndary weapon is. I use the Shard Diffractor, so I can swap to it anytime an enemy closes the distance with me, and since the weapon doesn't have chunky ammo sizes, you can seamlessly switch back and forth between them.

I make extensive use of the advantaged attack angles as well.

Some of it's strongest moments is against something like a Bet-C during a Shield Disruption which happened recently in EDD.

Since you can lock on from behind cover, shoot directly into a wall, and the bullets will hit the Bet-C anyways.

[still geode]

seems like way too niche of a use case to compensate for it just being worse in the majority of scenarios

[alpine smelt]

I regularly get use out of it in every mission.

There isn't a single mission that goes by that I don't cache in on the attack angle.

[still geode]

i regularly get use out of executioner having an overwhelming dps advantage

[alpine smelt]

You have mainly a time advantage.

The execution kills the same enemies faster since there aren't unlimited enemies.

The Seeker will kill the same enemies but with perfect efficiency.

[still geode]

executioner has better efficiency if used properly because the +50% weakpoint damage means enemies die in fewer bullets

and killing enemies faster means the mission doesn't take as long, resulting in fewer swarms throughout the mission and fewer enemies that need to be killed

[alpine smelt]

But you don't have full control over the bullets.

And you can miss.

I never miss.

[still geode]

i don't miss much

[alpine smelt]

I never miss.

[still geode]

you also never get +50% weakpoint damage

[alpine smelt]

Which enemy is that relevant against?

[still geode]

most of them?

[alpine smelt]

Hardly any of them.

[still geode]

do i need to list every single enemy that has a weakpoint

?

[alpine smelt]

They have to have enough HP for the the 50% bonus damage to matter.

You know if I 1-2 shot enemies with the same weakpoint hits for normal weakpoint damage, the 50% bonus damage is overkill damage.

Basically if you are doing 300 (arbitrary number) damage to an enemy with 100 HP, the overkill 200 damage isn't relevant.

[still geode]

if you 1-2 shot enemies you're shooting grunts at which point why are you shooting htem with lok1

[barren citrus]

Man I'm feeling as if I've started quite the debate here...

[alpine smelt]

Because it'd put too much pressure on my Shard Diffractor's ammo to use it exclusively on them.

[still geode]

hell if you're 1shotting them it means the grunt was injured and depending on how injured it was executioner would 1shot them when seeker still 2shots

[alpine smelt]

There's also the recharge time on the battery where I can fire 1-2 volleys of the lok1.

[still geode]

and if you're frequently shooting grunts why run seeker over ecr

[alpine smelt]

Because it does the same job + grants me the advantage of perfect firing angles.

[still geode]

yet does the same job significantly worse

[alpine smelt]

Where as Exe does the same job but doesn't grant me the advantage of perfect firing angles.

It does the job just right.

The Exe overkills the job.

It's like using a missile to clear a house of termites.

[still geode]

seeker is like using chopsticks to individually eat every termite lmao

[alpine smelt]

The Seeker is like fumigating a house with pesticide.

It is just right.

[still geode]

it simply isnt

[alpine smelt]

I use both of them quite a bit especially sinced I unlocked executioner first.

But after running them both long enough, I quickly found that the execution is unnecessarily strong for its role while the seeker does the same job but grants me tactical options that never existed before.

[still geode]

the tactical option of spending half an hour killing a few praetorians

[alpine smelt]

I don't use it to kill praetorians. I use my shard diffractor for that.

I use it for general combat and especially for oppressors and bosses.

[languid rune]

the +50% WP damage from Executioner is really strong

if you're building for optimization I don't think you can skip it

maybe you can swap it out for ECR, but even then ECR is slightly weaker

[still geode]

ecr is quite competitive in random teams because you're more likely to need it for self defense

[languid rune]

I feel like Breach Cutter kind of makes ECR less valuable in that situation though

[barren citrus]

I'd imagine it'd be fine if you're using the shard diffractor as your secondary tho

[languid rune]

I dunno, even then outside of modded hazards VIR mops swarms up quite well

[still geode]

when i bring vir to EDDs i get like 70% of the total kills

[languid rune]

actually PCC could probably do it as well

[still geode]

executioner vir is probably one of the strongest engi builds for pub teams

[barren citrus]

The oc that explodes your platforms?

[languid rune]

yeah

not quite as good for swarm clear as PCC but it's definitely decent at it

[bitter canyon]

Whats vir?

[desert swallow]

I know this might sound greenbeard, but it felt fucking great to finally beat my first deep dive solo

[alpine smelt]

I find it's easier with smaller groups of people or even solo because you get fewer spawns.

You also get full control over the strategy you plan to use. You don't have to share ammo either.

Certain warnings are much easier with a smaller, tighter team, like Shield Disruption.

[still geode]

volatile impact reactor, it's a shard diffractor overclock that leaves behind magma for a few seconds where you shoot
It's extremely effective at clearing out large amounts of bugs, even in weird terrain or at long range

[barren citrus]

Definitely a really good feeling for sure

[worn heath]

whats in this weeks EDD

[eager flame]

The Deep Dive information is updated weekly on the pinned messages 😉

[worn heath]

thanks

[rose yacht]

Meanwhile i just set up 2 turrets and use lure while Em discharging like a mad man.

[full saddle]

yuna kinda goated

[eager flame]

Nah, muffincat is more, they were the ones who have been doing it for 2+ years, i'm just filling it because they are busy with work these days and it is nice to have the info easily accessible

[slender swift]

i know it'll just depend, but what timeframe should i be thinking about for my first regular DeepDive?

[pliant yoke]

As soon as you feel comfortable with completing one

[worn anchor]

immediately after promotion

[full saddle]

it's really quite easy, it's only hazard 3

you shouldnt stress it too much

[robust bobcat]

second stage normal dd is specifically designed for the update no doubt

[full saddle]

fucking hate getting bulk dets during drilldozer

[coral pond]

Why, just kite it away?

[bright wraith]

anyone e;lse getting oneshot by stingers?

[full saddle]

what do you do if it just attacks the drilldozer

[coral pond]

Bulks don't target the drilldozer. If it's attacking the drilldozer, it's going for whatever dwarf is on it

[slender swift]

Right on. Appreciate it, miner.

[full saddle]

well it definitely was not targetting me when i was running away from it

[coral pond]

Were you solo?

[full saddle]

yes

it hit the drilldozer twice before i gave up and killed it and lost a plate

[coral pond]

[dense pebble]

Was the dozer between you and it?

[full saddle]

no, and i cant get it to hit the drilldozer testing it so im going to assume i was misunderstanding what was happening extremely badly

my apologies

im going to assume that i saw the arm raised animation as it was walking and thought it was hitting the drilldozer when it was acutlaly just walking towards me and i somehow misheard the attack

my music is really loud and game sound is a bit lower, dunno

i was definitely also already panicking due to a bit too many bugs lol

not applicable to solo, but if someone dies on the dozer, it'd be possible for the bulk to focus on that guy, right?

or do they not attack downed players

i dont understand their ai very well since they're relatively rare

[coral pond]

i don't think i've ever seen a bulk target a downed player, but they might? not positive on that

[thorny jungle]

who wanna rock n stone together ?

[pliant seal]

with minigun is blow through or armour piercing at tier 3 better?

[pliant yoke]

Both can be good in different situations

Armour break makes you more efficient against armoured targets, i.e., you don’t lose nearly as much damage while not actively aiming for weak spots, and BT gives you extra value if you happen to be hitting another bug behind your current crosshair target

[still geode]

i would recommend against blowthrough if you're going to elim or a deep dive with dreadnaughts in a team, as it happens quite frequently that you shoot through the dreadnaught and hit teammates on the other side

[pliant yoke]

AB also helps dealing with problematic armoured targets in general, notably Shellbacks and Mactera Brundles

[pliant yoke]

This is a good point to bring up, too

[oblique rain]

Hot damn this elite dive is painful

[lusty shuttle]

Someone in a lobby told me he got jet boots on his Deep Dive, is that a thing?

[pliant yoke]

It is a thing

It’s one of the random elements that can happen even in Deep Dives, like having a BET-C or a Nemesis, or a Huuli hoarder spawn

[flint parcel]

I got jet boots on my deep dive so yes

[small idol]

yes

unfortunately you only keep them for that stage

would be nice and also logical if they carried to the rest of the stages

[jade wind]

Lots of mini mules for this week's deep dive eh

[worn anchor]

God I hate minimolly

The other day I had a haz2 mission with one of my greenbeard buddies take an hour because we couldn't find the second mule

that's the good thing about deep dives, it's the same over and over again so you don't need to find both mules every time

I gotta get around to this rotation, probably tonight

[dense vessel]

EDD was hell

Still haven’t done it, mostly bc I tried with randos but it wasn’t my teammates fault.

[nocturne citrus]

Just did the EDD solo (this is my first time doing it), I got it first try, but goddamn Stingtails fucked me up multiple times on Salvage

I got yeeted into the air twice and died due to fall damage

[full saddle]

yeah stingtails are insane for solo salvage

lmao

[sturdy parcel]

got disconnected at hte last second.

anger

[spiral badge]

How big are they? Praetorian size or smaller?

[true flame]

so, what good builds are there for the 3 new oc?
shield boost, double barrel and barrage
im still trying to find out

[full saddle]

they're small but they like to stay out of range and grab you out of the zone

if you have 2 grabbers on you in an open area you run the risk of losing tons of time in the zone

thats not to mention the bugs where they just kill you

by flinging you across the map or into the ceiling

[spiral badge]

They grab?! Oh I assumed they were ranged attack

[full saddle]

it is ranged, it's not a stun or anything

they just pull you in and then melee you

but it has a decent range and is pretty disorienting

[spiral badge]

Are you helpless like the ceiling grabber things?

[full saddle]

nope

but its definitely capable of being a real pain on salvage since you need to be in the zone

i got pulled out of the zone multiple times on this weeks edd and it probably added like 40 seconds to the defense

i was able to use terrain to sort of avoid them, though, kinda like mactera or spitters

[spiral badge]

I think I’d just dig a vertical hole, I reckon they couldn’t pull you out of a hole unless they came right on top of it

[cunning rapids]

Whats the best build for a driller doing elite deep dives

[spiral badge]

If engie cover your hole with cheese

[barren citrus]

Imagine doing an escort deep dive objective, and you have 3 bulks spawn in the same run

[shut cosmos]

I've had great success running HiA goop gun + PP epc

[cunning rapids]

ive been using the cryo cannon and microwave gun mostly since they are quite fun

[worn anchor]

had a crassus on escort once

[coral pond]

With only 1 dread, i'd probably go disperser compound + plasma tcf

[spiral badge]

I had 2 bulks in DD2

And I was solo so yeah 🤣

The second one was right at the drop pod but I had an extra Bosco revive so I decided to mess around and let it explode

[barren citrus]

Just got myself big bertha for a new thunderhead oc, I'm assuming that could put in work for gunner on this weeks EDD?

[barren citrus]

Was also curious if BB + either magic bullets or compact mags would be a good loadout for this particular EDD?

[feral shore]

I've never done a deep dive

Any tips

[still geode]

nitra and ammo carry over between stages, so try not to waste it if you might need it later, but you also generally get more than you need so don't be too stingy either

active perks refresh after each stage too

[feral shore]

ty I didn't know about that stuff carrying over!

[barren citrus]

Only thing you should know is if you happen to find a hover boots crate in say stage 1 or 2, the hover boots equipment will not carry over with you once you finished said stage

[spiral badge]

Resources mined, ammo and health carry over so if for example you’re low on health at the end of a mission, get some red sugar if you can manage it

However, 1 time use perks DO reset after each mission, as well as Bosco revives if you play solo, so don’t try to play around saving iron will for stage 3, etc

[timid elbow]

be very comfortable with haz 4 if you're attempting regular DD and haz 5 if you're attempting EDD
One of Field Medic or Iron Will is recommended depending on the class.

[still geode]

dash + field medic or dash + iron will is definitely teh way to go

scout can run field medic + iron will, or can run heightened senses + fm or iw if you prefer that

[spiral badge]

be very comfortable with haz 4 if you're attempting regular DD
I think that wildly varies from week to week

[timid elbow]

true but it's a reasonable goal to set

[spiral badge]

Like this week feels like haz 2.5-3

[timid elbow]

some weeks the DD is more difficult than the EDD but that's mostly just because of the seed & wave spawns

[spiral badge]

Or haunted cave which I will not attempt solo

[worn anchor]

haunted cave is more bearable when you use the LOK-1 to free up brain power for situational awareness

It takes a surprising amount of neurons to hit your target with a normal gun

still hate HC though

[hearty burrow]

Would be cool to see 2 teams of 4 take on one cave to find and kill each other and one team takes all the loot if they won

[barren citrus]

Question, what would be a good perk out of the active ones to use (fm, iw, etc.) if you wanted to run beast master for a dd that your Steeve could benefit from? (regen bugs, lethal enemies, etc.)

[still geode]

dash is better than the rest

[barren citrus]

Personally I don't use dash, for the sole fact that I forget it exists and when I do happen to trigger the perk it's purely accidental

That's just me & my experience with having it equipped tho

[still geode]

there is a mod that allows you to replace the double tap activation with a different keybind, you may want to consider that

[barren citrus]

I don't use mods tho

Plus tbf half of those two perk slots is taken up with heightened senses

I just find that to be more reliable than dash

Also no the cave leech will not take me to it's attack animations

[warped veldt]

if you learn how to use dash its by far the strongest perk in the game, only exception is scout but its still not useless on him

[barren citrus]

I mean even if I did learn how to use it, the biggest problem would be if I actually remembered that it was there in the first place

My memory isn't exactly the best, even if i came to drilling something like using dash into pure muscle memory

[halcyon latch]

Anything I need to worry about in the elite dive other than the round mutators and stuff

[spiral badge]

I don’t need the handicap of dash

[warped veldt]

do you want a pat on the back

[spiral badge]

No but I’ll take a cookie

[barren citrus]

Guess I could realistically just go with field medic + iron will for the classes that aren't scout (would just do fm + hs with him) over taking dash tbh

[wraith shard]

I've become kinda fond of See You In Hell

[barren citrus]

But yeah at the very least I've got a good idea of what to use for if I'm attempting the edd in a group setting over solo

Still just gotta figure out if my updated main thunderhead loadout would be worth trying on the edd if I'm gonna take a crack at using gunner on there

[spiral badge]

I use medic if I’m on a team (in addition to IW)

If solo I often use beast master, Steeve is pretty dēce at pulling aggro

[wraith shard]

Solo I always take Beast Master and now See you in hell
With a team I take Field Medic and either iw or syih

What's others opinions of see you in hell?

[spiral badge]

Never tried it but Bosco scares off enemies when he comes over to revive you 🤷🏻‍♂️

[wraith shard]

Oh true

I just like that it basically kills everything around you
I forgot Bosco did that so I'll run Heightened Senses again

[tacit jungle]

SYIH is a meme perk. There are much better game plans than dying 3 times while surrounded by bugs

[next blaze]

otoh if you get surprised by a rogue grunt hitting you in the back, you can turn around and tap em on the head with your pickaxe for a free kill and 5 health leeched back with vampire

there are plenty of good alternatives to it, but if you've felt the effect of that one buff beer that does the same thing, it's pretty nice

[wraith shard]

Yeahhh I like the increased melee

And if I'm doing more dangerous missions with others instead of Bosco I'm bound to get downed at least a couple times

Final stage elite deep dives

[next blaze]

Yeah the way I see it, it's functionally similar to field medic for a coordinated team, just the one that's downed has the beneficial perk instead of the one reviving

clears out the area for a free revive

[wraith shard]

Yeah that's my thinking too

And if there's a ton of enemies, especially if you're in a triangulation zone, it's nice to be able to clear it out if you're down

[summer coral]

I don't think I'm beating this week's EDD

[tacit jungle]

immensely entertained at half the people claiming the EDD is 3/10 ez pz and the other half calling it impossible

[wraith shard]

I managed to beat it like 10th try

[wraith shard]

It's really tough yeah. I can try to help maybe, though like I said I only have a 10% win rate

[barren citrus]

I mean hey as long as you can get the blank matrix core & weapon overclock reward, it should at the very least be a victory in one sense so to speak

That's more or less how I felt after last week's edd when I managed to reach stage 3 and died an "honorable" death

[celest ruin]

edd is decently hard

[summer coral]

I can barely get past stage 1

[barren citrus]

Oof

[celest ruin]

the cave gen is pretty hard on that one

burned through 4 IW's due to popping a few too many eggs at the wrong spot

[barren citrus]

Probably also doesn't help if you have a Nemesis spawn on your hands

[celest ruin]

at least rivals weren't on stage 3

[summer coral]

I had 2 spawn back to back

[barren citrus]

Oh boy...

That's even worse than having just the 1 cause you gotta eat through more ammo

Assuming you hadn't called a resupply at that point

[digital obsidian]

What is this week’s deep dive?

[dense sage]

Check pinned message.

[digital obsidian]

Okay

[waxen terrace]

to those who said EDD is hard this week, get your aoe stuff and make sure your drillers and engis actually terraform

also bring bug repellant platforms

[grim laurel]

is there barely enough morkite on stage 2 of DD?

[waxen terrace]

no there is more than enough

[spiral badge]

There’s lots, I passed 2 or more veins just that I saw

[proud zealot]

Normal DD i had over 500 nitra remaining unused at the end

[spiral badge]

Morkite

[brazen shell]

make those stingtail to miss cuz is annoying af

they cant miss

[void zodiac]

So I was thinking about finally doing deep dive but I dont know what to expect from it, any advice?

[solemn hollow]

good idea to be well acquainted with haz 4 before attempting

[tacit jungle]

EDD wasn't too bad

[tardy frost]

Is the third edd stage always without mutators or can it happen?

[tacit jungle]

it usually has mutators

third stage swarmageddon or shield disruption are crowd favorites

[tardy frost]

Ok i mas just wondering because the last two weeks had no mutators

[gusty meteor]

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Looks like we got scammer bots up above

[real prawn]

Try doing it with only another player. I had hosted an EDD but by the second stage it was only me (engi) and my friend (gunner). We only got a single det and it was in stage 3. If it interests you i was running executioner Lok1 + rj250 and my friend was running inferno + coil gun (i think?). What stage did you reach? I might be able to give you some tips

[rose yacht]

EDD today got buffed

the waves are insanely yabe.

[vocal saddle]

yea im having a hard time with the beer

[barren citrus]

Damn now I'm having second thoughts on this weeks edd if I'm gonna be real with y'all

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/1119618237198520360/20230617211438_1.jpg?width=1038&height=583

Pub EDD is very fun

[vocal saddle]

20 deaths my goodness