#deep-dive-discussion

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hallow island
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I hope stage 3 can be done

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Still at stage 2 xD

idle umbra
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u can do it!!

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just Rock and Roll and Stone

supple remnant
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Sure

idle umbra
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were in Pod 20

coarse bronze
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This weeks EDD is fucking ridiculous

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A bet-c for the first two stages. Nemesis, and dreadnaughts galore

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Even got a bulk showing up

supple remnant
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i honestly found it pretty simple

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i didnt get a bulk though lol

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sabotage really isnt hard either

coarse bronze
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I mean it’s very simple in its parts. Just all of them together suck

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And my pubs kept popping the dreadnaught is stage one

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One of my runs we fought the dreadnaught and bet-c at the same time for stage 1

supple remnant
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Yeah sometimes pubs can screw you over

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I had average players but they knew what they were doing

coarse bronze
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I got disconnected at the end of stage 2

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I don’t have the heart to try again

supple remnant
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Oh damn

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Have you beat it yet?

coarse bronze
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Naaa but I don’t think it would have been too hard from the description of stage 3

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I don’t really care about the cores enough. I’ll just get next weeks

supple remnant
coarse bronze
supple remnant
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Oh lol it’s all good

coarse bronze
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Much apologies

supple remnant
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Dw

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But yeah stage 3 isn’t bad at all, just might be a bit difficult to get there if you have bad teammates

coarse bronze
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Stage one looked the hardest

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Shield disruption really makes dreadnaughts a lot rougher on pubs

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My team went down like 20 times

supple remnant
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Stage 1 was annoying bc we fought it while circling the refinery and it was annoying

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Shield disrupt def was annoying

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For some reason we barely had red sugar though so idk what was up with that

brittle tulip
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Whats the deep dive this week?

supple remnant
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Pins

coarse bronze
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I was running the lok and ran out of ammo half way through the fight so just spent the rest of it finished 2.5 of the pipelines from start to finish

supple remnant
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I ran lok too lol

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A scout constantly had resups being placed though so I didn’t run out thankfully

coarse bronze
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I run ECR lok and fatboy.
Don’t need ammo if everything’s an explosive crater

supple remnant
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Lmao

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I ran ecr and shard vir

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Needed some heat for those robots

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And swarmers

coarse bronze
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I would have ran my regular EM discharge- shard difractor but that doesn’t do well against the 20 bosses this DD

supple remnant
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I could never get myself to like em discharge

coarse bronze
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Understandable it’s a bit… janky?

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You can do a lot with it, but it’s a lot of work to do it

supple remnant
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I just feel like by the time the bugs get near my turrets my team has either killed the bugs or they are almost dead

coarse bronze
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I use quick build turrets and just try to build it in a swarms face. Then wipe it in like 5 bullets

supple remnant
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Like unless you are on salvage or escort the bugs don’t go to my turrets like I need them to

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Yeah that would work but also the bugs up on the walls

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Shard for that I assume

coarse bronze
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Yeah

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Also for single targets. Get that electric damage mod and you can just melt anything that can be electrocuted

supple remnant
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I’d feel like if I run up to a crowd of bugs I could just as easily deal with it with one pgl shot but at the same time I haven’t used EM discharge much to get used to it

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I might try it soon

coarse bronze
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The advantage to EM discharge is probably that it’s really ammo efficient if you base all of your gameplay around it

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Letting you kill a couple hundred bugs before your even half way out of ammo

supple remnant
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And that’s what’s cool about it tbh

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Problem with me is it just requires such a different play style

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And idk if I enjoy that playstyle

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I’ve used it before on solo and I enjoyed it though

coarse bronze
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That’s fair enough. Plenty of builds to go around

supple remnant
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Just always chose em refire over it

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Completely different but I like how it plays

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Shred grunts like they are nothing

coarse bronze
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Recently I’ve been running a lot of full pyro gunner.
That’s maybe my favorite build

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That saying about some people wanting to watch the world burn is true. And it’s about me

supple remnant
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Lmao

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I wish I liked gunner

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I don’t

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I think it’s just that I haven’t found a fun oc

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But yeah

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Seems like he would be fun with the right ocs

molten charm
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Big Bertha and electro minelets made me fall in love with gunner

supple remnant
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Idk why but big Bertha isn’t that fun for me

coarse bronze
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Aggressive venting-burning hell, vb for that 300% damage on burning and fire grenades. I can just look at a grunt and he bursts into flames from the sheer fear

supple remnant
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Honestly nothing is more satisfying than making grunts burn

coarse bronze
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I’ve developed a bad habit of throwing incendiary grenades at my feet and just hoping my elemental insulation makes it okay when I can see again

supple remnant
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Stuff like that makes me want to play gunner more lmao

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I just can’t idk why

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I promoted it once and that’s it

coarse bronze
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I will admit his mobility is a little lacking

supple remnant
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That’s another big thing

coarse bronze
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That’s my main complaint. If he has some better movement I’d play him way more

supple remnant
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You can platform up walls, grapple across a cave, and dig through walls with the others but with gunner…

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You can take 5 minutes to get up a cliff

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With a zipline

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Which they are helpful for the whole team in some scenarios

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But just a gunner by itself?

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Meh

coarse bronze
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If you want to go straight up you can spend 10 minutes making a zig zag zip line elevator

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The number of times I’ve had to do that is large

supple remnant
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I haven’t seen that too often actually lol

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I’ve seen it before

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Zip lines are fun to go down with though

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Yknow

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Since you can go more than 0.0005 mph going downhill

coarse bronze
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They are also good for jumping onto from high places to take no fall damage

supple remnant
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They have saved me so much like that

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I’ll be engi and dash off a cliff

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And then

coarse bronze
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Probably what I use them for most

supple remnant
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A zipline

still geode
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i love ziplines

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not because i actually use them but because they save me from falling to my death

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you can do some great movement as scout when you can just catch a zipline to avoid falling

supple remnant
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Yeah I love using them as scout

still geode
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when i put up ziplines i always try to get the absolute max length i can out of them just to maximize the space where someone can use them to avoid falling to their death

hallow island
round spire
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💯

brittle tulip
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First two stages were rough

woeful niche
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ngl i think i did this edd zip less

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i just never felt the need to use em

vagrant cipher
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The more I use big bertha the more I realize using the direct damage oc even with the accuracy upgrade is not that accurate at mid to long range even with crosshairs on a enemy it will mostly miss

rugged portal
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it like the weapon have really bad innate accuracy

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taking accuracy up isn't that good

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just take fire rate + more direct damage

still geode
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i see zero reason to build thunder for accurate long range direct hit damage when minigun fills that role well on a level 1 unpromoted gunner

vagrant cipher
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Sometimes you wanna use single target and be able to have aoe for swammers when you dont constantly want to use the burning hell oc on minigun

still geode
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doesn't bulldog have a mod that does aoe dmg though?

coarse wharf
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Magic Bullets + Explosive Rounds + Neurotoxin Rounds

lusty dew
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^

coarse wharf
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afaik

lusty dew
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Can confirm that it works quite well

idle umbra
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just finished my first edd

desert tulip
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same here

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took 39 hours dang

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btw why dont we get more rewards for repeated dives?

supple remnant
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It would be too easy to just keep on doing the regular dive over and over

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You could literally get enough ocs in a week to get most if not all the weapon overclocks if you just kept on doing the dd’s in like 25 mins over and over

lusty dew
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Same reason you don't get regional resources outside of possibly a Huuli Hoarder

pulsar obsidian
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could I have top five reasons against scouts in deep dives

coarse wharf
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because tbh, scout is a very valuable class, just like the rest

pulsar obsidian
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makes sense thanks

coarse wharf
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yeah, any bad player would make any class look really bad

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don't sweat it

rain wharf
still geode
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the main difference is that the other classes have things that contribute even if the player is really bad

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like putting up a shield for a revive, platforms for other classes to use, or drilling straight from point A to B

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inexperienced players may not always do these things properly, but they are easy to grasp concepts and it'll help your team out a lot if they're being done

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scout's comparable team contribution is their flare gun, which a lot of scouts forget to use because it's not a fire and forget thing - you have to put up new flares at times, especially if they're used for seeing the roof in combat

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this results in a bad scout often doing nothing of particular value for their team while also dying in annoying to reach locations, while bad players on other classes are at least contributing with their class's capabilities and not dying in as terrible locations

tacit jungle
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it's also really obvious when scout is not doing anything

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the gameplay itself is straightforward: shoot flare, lick wall candy, poke big boy, don't break legs

still geode
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yeah its very easy to see a vein of nitra that's not been mined and then look back 2 minutes later and it still hasn't been mined and go "the scout isn't doing much"

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meanwhile you don't realize the driller isn't doing shit until the end screen pops up and they somehow have 32 kills while the gunner had 275

calm quest
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just opened an edd lobby 👀 watched a guide n im ready to pump my sludge

thorn frost
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That industrial sabotage wasnt so bad

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Kinda sucks playing as driller having to build for caretaker but deal with dreadnoughts, but my GOD does the c4 technique just absolutely shit on the caretaker

fringe thistle
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ITS FUCKING BOSS WEEK BOISSS LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

desert tulip
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omg i hate artifical gatekeeping

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if someone is good enough to farm elite deep dive why not let them??????????

desert tulip
fringe thistle
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Good challenge

brisk spear
still geode
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the dive is literally the same every time

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if you can beat it you can farm it

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it just becomes easier on repeat attempts because you know everything

fringe thistle
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Meh, EDD and DD are meant to be a challenge of skillfully handling chaotic arrangements of 3 random missions without changing loadouts. Having all those extra minerals and beer ingredients and side objectives would clutter it so much that it would take absolutely forever and wear you down. I prefer the streamlined design because it lets you focus on the important goals.

still geode
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plus there's no conflict between what the various players want this way

fringe thistle
still geode
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some people would absolutely want to mine all the various resources, while others just want to get their matrix cores and stuff asap and not waste time on things you can get from normal missions

fringe thistle
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I mean, you can run normal missions if you wanna get resources. They loop on a 1/2 hour cycle for a reason

still geode
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yeah

fringe thistle
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If the EDD gave raw resources every time, people could memorize the locations of all the ores and super easily farm them for easy minerals. Doesn't seem too fair compared to actually running randomized missions. Also boring as hell, removes all the fun and challenge from it

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Gold and nitra spawn in the same locations, so one would assume the minerals would too.

desert tulip
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only gold and nitra?

fringe thistle
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Yes

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That's what I'm saying, if it DID then it would be too easy to farm them.

desert tulip
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O MAN

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playing shield disruption with gunner is sadge

pliant yoke
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How so? Everyone is affected the same way

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Gunner is no exception

desert tulip
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gunner is a class build around his tankiness and shields

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duh

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for scout u can still kite the mobs endlessly with zip

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for example

molten charm
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Just be glad gunner can still use his deployable shield

still geode
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i find shield disruption more annoying on scout than engi/driller

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i very frequently take minor amounts of falldamage that are negated by shields, but that damage adds up if you have no shield

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driller is probably the least impacted, because driller has the easiest time sustaining hp via vampire

coarse wharf
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Gunner still has the advantage of having dummy thicc ammo reserves and insane CC potential depending on build

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being able to delete bulks with Leadbursters and potentially save a ton of ammo for your team is a big plus

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Gunner's shield can block the melee attack of the Caretaker's arms too, in case some of you were unaware of that

silk furnace
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im trying out deep dive for the first time

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does the game saves nitra

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for each stage ur going?

coarse wharf
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yes

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try to be conservative with nitra in the early stages of DD

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go nuts in stage 3

silk furnace
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why bc there isnt nitra on stage 3?

coarse wharf
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nah, it's because it's the final stage anyways

silk furnace
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o

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i dindt thought would be that though to do alone

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first i had to kill 2 dreadnoughts and get 2 eg

coarse wharf
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like... re-supply as needed for stages 1 and 2, then you can go nuts if need be in stage 3

silk furnace
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now im finishin refinary morkite and killin dreadnought

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also is just me or there isnt many minerals to get on deep dive

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all i find is nitra and gold

thorn jewel
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dives have no minerals unless there's a seed with a huuli spawn

silk furnace
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oo

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so all u get is overclocks or u get xp aswell?

pliant yoke
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XP, Credits, <Matrix cores once a week>

silk furnace
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oo

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ive finished ow

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now i can promote my driller for the 2nd time

empty cosmos
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Congrats

rose yacht
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we actually get 4 matrix core per week

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edd and dd

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and missions

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oh wait thats just 3 on the plus side we get 3 random matrix core too

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💀

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so it kinda okay

torn bough
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Which is the better overclock for Gunner's coil gun for this week EDD, Mole or Hellfire

coral pond
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I'd take hellfire and spec your primary for single target

fluid cliff
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hellfire is just silly unfortunately

hollow wasp
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hellfire is one of the strongest overclocks

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if you skill it right, charged shot will kill every turret with the fire damage in one shot

fluid cliff
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that happens regardless

robust bobcat
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2 stage edd is WILD

wraith shard
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last stage of EDD fucking sucks so hard

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lethal sabo is ass

sleek verge
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what class are u on?

wraith shard
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the arms fucking kill u from full hp

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gunner

sleek verge
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ah, you should instagib them and try to stay out of the threatened area of the others if you can

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usually i dont have to worry about arms at all

wraith shard
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so true bestie

still geode
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i believe that the gunner shields can block the arms

royal fiber
wraith shard
sleek verge
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hell yeah bestie

wraith shard
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stage 2 I recommend avoiding both nemmy and betc

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just drill directly to cocoon/egg

coral pond
coral pond
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Was a fun time

wraith shard
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huge plays

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driller knows the secrets of the world

rugged portal
wraith shard
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you can

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did it twice

rugged portal
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you will run into either of them

wraith shard
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false

rugged portal
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my luck then

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betc literally in a blind spot for my run lol

wraith shard
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I did a 4p and a 3p and betc changed locations, almost ran into her

coarse wharf
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no terrain in front of me either

wraith shard
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I meant

coarse wharf
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I believe I saw 2 arms stab into it at the same time, right at me

wraith shard
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"they" as in gunners shields "cannot" block arms

coarse wharf
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ah, you meant arm spawns?

wraith shard
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gunner shields do not block caretaker arms

coral pond
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Sconk pretty sure they can

calm quest
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i know it doesnt block its shield wave

coarse wharf
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I think Hecate meant the arms themselves, not the stab attack they do

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but yeah, shields can block the stabs

calm quest
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i cannot do this edd with all the little swarms they get me 😦

woeful patrol
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Sabotage Lethal Enemies... Sounds fun

coral pond
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Engi shredder nades take care of a lot of issues

coarse wharf
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Stun Sweeper too on Scout too, if you feel like you can make the most out of them more than the other nades in Sabo

calm quest
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i dont trust those things man.. they always hit me

coarse wharf
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Engi's Shredders do no friendly fire tho

calm quest
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with no shield i'd be one hitting myself a lot

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oh

wraith shard
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no

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arm stab attacks will hit you through gunner shield

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it blocks the shots tho

coarse wharf
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that's weird, I was able to block them, unless you used the shield with the arm inside

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I don't think you can spawn the Caretaker in Sandbox Utilities, because it would be super easy to test

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unless...

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let me check, I wonder if you can spawn the arms...

coral pond
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Swear I've had the shield block the stab too

coarse wharf
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I am on the case

woeful patrol
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He's on the case

wraith shard
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99% sure I've tossed a shield on someone, went to revive them, then got fucked by the arm

woeful niche
wraith shard
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what was fixed

woeful niche
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either start of season 2 or 3

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the arms hitting thru shields

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it hasn’t been that way for at least a few months

wraith shard
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I started at the beginning of S3 and had arms in my face through shield

woeful niche
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you can test it yourself, i tested it when the patch fixed it

wraith shard
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what date was the patch

coarse wharf
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hang on peeps, checking Sandbox Utilities right now

woeful niche
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no clue cus i have dog memory

wraith shard
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i remember it happening to me late last year

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so if it was changed since then

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then sure

coarse wharf
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ah shit, I don't think you can spawn Caretaker arms

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unless someone knows the spawn name for them, but I swear I don't see it

woeful niche
coarse wharf
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yeah, I don't think it's possible to spawn the Caretaker or its arms in Sandbox Utilities

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damn it

wraith shard
woven osprey
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why are deep dives taking so long to fill

wraith shard
woven osprey
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well there didn't seem to be many people the first day either

wraith shard
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you may need to change your search distance to far instead of the default medium

patent elk
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Just saw this week's EDD and am I missing something or does this week look significantly easier than the past few weeks?

wraith shard
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last week was hell for the EDD

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are you guys serious

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this weeks is infinitely harder than last weeks

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or maybe my team was bad

coral pond
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Bro last week was so much easier than this week's

heavy elbow
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I dont know why ppl keep trying to hide from the caretaker

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Maybe i should just solo this deep dive

wraith shard
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Probably the easiest way to do it

weary cairn
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Are there any plans in the work to create cross platform progression or cross platform play?

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Does anyone know?

burnt sandal
wraith shard
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Anyone trying to make a team to get this elite dive done?

round cedar
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My God, I tried to ask a question in general chat and it got swallowed by 10k other messages in 4 minutes.

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If my friend has never promoted a character before, will he have to once again wait and level up before going back to unlock the rest of his guns if he promotes his character first?

blissful tundra
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such meme teams i've come across in this EDD

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driller just doing nothing at the caretaker to help

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lvl 500 and not even throwing c4s on it, he rather wastes it on blowing up cover

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just ignores us all

mighty temple
round cedar
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Ok that's cool

crimson lake
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What day do the deep dives refresh on?

green monolith
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Thursday I think

molten charm
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can you use iron will 3 times on a DD? i.e. once each mission?

reef pine
molten charm
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thanks!

reef pine
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np

raven sky
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what builds are drillers using successfully on the edd this week?

supple remnant
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but my team's driller went cryo and it helped with dreads quite a bit

raven sky
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isnt it alot of ammo use to feeeze a dread?

quasi sleet
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get cold radiance

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still takes a lot of ammo but the cold radiance makes it a lot better

coral pond
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Cryo is great for dreads, flamer great for robots. Sludge is a good middle point that covers both of them

heavy girder
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Sludge is great for generalist builds

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Disperser Compound provides great zone control, especially when paired with Heavy Hitter Burning Nightmare EPC

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You can also one-shot grunts if you take the direct damage mod so you can save the EPC for stronger targets

rugged portal
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you don't need to take any damage mod to 1 shot grunt

heavy girder
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Really? Maybe I'm misremembering things. You're probably right since it's rare I use the normal shot when using Disperser

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Will try testing it tonight

raven sky
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I took volatile impact mixture because of the dreads but i wasn't happy fighting all the swarmers and big groups

woeful niche
main rivet
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does anyone know where the 3rd pumpjack is? found the one on the other end of a wall to the rig and the one at the bottom

tall meadow
amber trellis
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Also, does anyone wanna try to finish the EDD? I've only been able to find lobbies of newer players that struggle to stay alive. : , (

main rivet
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found it took way too long

rose yacht
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This week EDD is harder for noobs on the first round

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but significantly easier on the 2nd and 3rd.

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Shield disruption is brutal.

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😂

silk thorn
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deep dive bro

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liquid morkite

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crazy cave complexity

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  • dreadnought
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just as i activate dreadnought a bug swarm comes

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hooray

short egret
wheat gull
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EDD is savage, what a mess. Tried with the wife earlier and we got caught off-guard on the third stage because of the enhanced shredders

silk thorn
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i died on the 2nd stage

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to be fair i was playing with only 1 other person

vague oar
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Rock and stone!

wraith shard
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dd stage 2: 1st well at the bottom of main room, 2nd well near the dreadnought cocoon, 3rd well in a secondary room accessed via a tunnel

shut isle
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has anyone tried dde without overclocks, seem impossible if you team isn't stacked enough

brisk spear
shut isle
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that's what I say to myself when playing in pubs tbh

rose yacht
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everyone using fancy OC except u.

thick epoch
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Is deep dive cave generation more jank than normal cave generation?

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Stage 2 DD gave me a brain aneurysm

terse yew
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Everybody wanna be a superstar

hardy needle
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im a deep dweller

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the ignition union my home

real turtle
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is the hive guard on dive 1 bugged

dusky jackal
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Ugh.

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Cannot find this third well

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I’ve been in this one for an HOUR where tf is it

brisk pagoda
jolly pumice
dusky jackal
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Was below

terse yew
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First of all,gtfo out scammer,second,wrong fucking language

shut cosmos
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solo gunner on that stage was ultra pain

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Luckily I had a rocky mountain on, otherwise I would've spent 2 hours there

terse yew
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Can someone delete that scammer already

dawn oxide
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Reported already.

subtle ibex
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Obviously don't sign in with your steam. It's phishing and not real. Report this man.

terse yew
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i reported it but i dont think reporting will do anything tbh

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discord barely even checks

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my brother got hacked by a scammer a year ago and guess what his account is unbanned still

night yew
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do dreadnoughts get slowed by electricity?

rose yacht
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but most of em are immune to it

burnt sandal
rose yacht
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So the answer is yes, and also no.

burnt sandal
# night yew do dreadnoughts get slowed by electricity?

More in depth about it :

There are "normal" source and "environmental" source of electrocution. Most electrocution sources are "normal", but a few of them actually use the environmental electrocution source (which is basically what the electro-crystal do in Crystalline Caverns).

The weapons actually capable of slowing down a dread with electrocution are :

  • Crossbow with the taser bolts
  • Stubby with Turret Arc OC

Don't think there's another one (could be forgetting it tho)

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IFG from the scout can also slow down the dreads but it's not exactly electrocution, IFGs just are unique in pretty much all regards.

wraith shard
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DM who wants free nitro

burnt sandal
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<@&296918282403840000>

rose yacht
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I tot that's the most popular OC that electricutes.

burnt sandal
rose yacht
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oh

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interesting

blissful tundra
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yeah slowdowns don't work on the dreads

burnt sandal
rose yacht
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This is why i love goo

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best slowdown debuff ingame

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ez to apply

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DoT does decent dmg too

night yew
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thanks all

queen rampart
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Review on this week EDD:
What the fuck!
It's cost me nearly 2 hours

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Stage 1: i get the hang of it by playing it multiple times
Stage 2: Non-stop Swamer, Less Nitra, Nemesis, Breeder, Bulk, Leech.
Stage 3: I nearly die
Exploder. Awww man...
Both Hacking position is the worst
The even more worse is the escape pod. Only Scout is the one make it out alive.

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TL ;DR: I'm have to stand up, get out of the room, and have a smoke to cool down my shaking hand

tulip idol
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In my third walkthrough on this EDD both hack-Cs landed near each other close to the cave entrance and we did both at the same time.

queen rampart
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You are serious mad lad@tulip idol

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😫🚬

tulip idol
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Nah it wasn't my idea, I just covered it nice

queen rampart
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Covered it?

tulip idol
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Made sure we'll go through it, I knew we could pull this off

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Though I was the only experienced player in the team

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So I stayed quiet and with the help of Ice Storm and pheromones we did it.

queen rampart
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I still see some people still struggles with Stage 1

tulip idol
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Also those shredders, I greatly underestimated how much dmg they do on lethal enemies

queen rampart
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No shield is like halo CE challenge

queen rampart
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They much be watching Mr.Paladin spy video

tulip idol
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I wasn't thinking on holding the trigger of Ice Storm on just a few of them, and those downed 3 of us real quickly

queen rampart
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Jezz

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Death Sentence, One Down

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Good thing they can't handle ice, and fire

rose yacht
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[they never make a sound.]

wheat gull
uneven sand
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they all went for me, in a driller tunnel

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One judicial flamethrower application later

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no shredder

icy hound
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Been lookin for the final pipeline in the second mission of the normal deep dive for like half an hour and still haven't found it.

uneven sand
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look in the triad that the other two arent, dig 45 degree down from the rig

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massive cave like 40m into the soil

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@icy hound

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hard to find

icy hound
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I found one nearly at the bottom i think that's the one you're saying

uneven sand
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The other two are in the main cave area

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fully connected

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skill issue ig

vague oar
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Imagine if you could pet molly

icy hound
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I found it @uneven sand the tip of looking where the other two aren't helped. Tyty

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Sadly enough i was really close before

uneven sand
haughty ridge
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Lol.

humble jungle
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I don't have much edd experience but solo edd seem very easy, looks like it's time to start playing with random players :D

rose yacht
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kek

grand pasture
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Here's to hoping the next EDD is a bit more challenging than the last drgbeer

rose yacht
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I'm hoping they release an upgraded version of EDD

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EDD Deluxe [5 stages deep.]

dawn oxide
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Our level 1k+ gunner couldn't carry enough, we lost 1cm of health away on caretaker.

wheat gull
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That's a bummer; for what it's worth this week's EDD is kinda rough.

tulip idol
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Perhaps, it's better to put 1k player at driller, it's easier for driller to clean threats coming from Dreadnoughts, swarmers, nemesis and caretaker

wheat gull
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On the flipside, my last attempt at the EDD was with 3 players below lv 30, and we lost to the caretaker because we had no real source of damage for it and one of our players had to leave for an emergency

dim wigeon
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damn this last stage edd is pain in the ass

wheat gull
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I'm about to try to go back in; I kinda want to beat it out of stubbornness at this point lol

tulip idol
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To me those swarmers during Dreadnought fights are quite uncomfortable

wheat gull
tulip idol
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But lethal enemies shredders? Damn

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I did carry with cryo driller 🙂

wheat gull
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Yeah it caught me and the wife off-guard on our first try. We both were like "wait wtf happened why am I dead"

tulip idol
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Robots die to ice storm

dim wigeon
tulip idol
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I deeply underestimated a few shredders, I didn't want to fire cryo cannon at few of them, and after a few hits we were almost wiped

desert lynx
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are edd rewards predetermined or randgen?

tulip idol
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From experience, it's the same, mb differs a little from edd to edd, but I don't pay attention to rewards screen anyways

desert lynx
burnt sandal
storm wedge
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i am never lucky with my cores

weary pecan
desert lynx
dawn oxide
tulip idol
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too many for it

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turrets are probably the best

dawn oxide
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Throw 2.

still geode
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you can't throw multiple boomerangs at once

tulip idol
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you can

dawn oxide
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😂

still geode
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it didn't let me throw a 2nd one when i used em?

tulip idol
still geode
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ah

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i c

tulip idol
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the timing is kinda not obvious, but spam with animation cancel does the job

dawn oxide
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It's a feature I hope, like beer buffs.

still geode
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a limit of 1 holds them back too much on higher haz levels imo

tulip idol
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well, 9 enemies as hard limit is tough

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would be great to see it used with some charge mechanic

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honestly anything that makes it hit faster and more enemies would be great

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I don't even need such a long stun

dawn oxide
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I think it's fine.

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I just clear floating crap with it or stun around a downed dwarf before getting them up.

tulip idol
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yeah but other nades help to remove entire waves

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while boomerang is just 9 enemies with very little damage

still geode
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if i want to stun stuff around a downed dwarf, cryo nades do that quite well too

unique ore
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unless its swarmageddon, 9 is generally enough

still geode
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and those are nearly instant and have no enemy limit

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my issue with boomerang is that if there are 10 enemies i might just be murdered by a slasher or trijaw while picking up the dwarf

tulip idol
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like when I see or hear a wave of grunts, a couple of praets, warden... spawned somewhere, I instantly hook there to throw a nade that would apply massive cc before bugs spread around choosing paths to different dwarves

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and that just allows to remove enemies in place

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while boomerang is better for spread-out enemies, sure
however it's not what you should aim at anyways - tighter spots, chokepoints, repellent, bunkers are all strats that just make boomerang loose the competition to other nades

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and somehow it's not even the worst nade nowadays

still geode
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at least boomerang still deals more damage to enemies than to teammates, lol

unique ore
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id say scout nades are all pretty balanced, each has their own use case

tulip idol
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moreover, it's so easy to replace boomerang use with other guns that also have stun

still geode
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i feel like most non-AoE grenades have an issue where they are too good on haz 1-3 (not that anything is balanced on haz 1/2 in the first place) but simply don't match up on haz5 and beyond

tulip idol
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while it's hard to replace instant impact of 6 m cryo nade radius, of multiple pheromoned enemies at once, each of which can lure like 11 enemies, free damage, slow and flexibility of ifg

still geode
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on haz2 you wipe out an entire wave with 1 boomerang without aiming it

tulip idol
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I mean shredders are even easier, but they do stuff

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in fact, shredders is like analogue to carpet bomber

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multiple aoe hits at horde, unresisted

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and for many people it's now the best nade

still geode
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IMO shredders should scale off haz level

tulip idol
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definitely, but at least they do fine at all hazard levels

still geode
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yea

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the main issue shredders have is moreso them being too strong on low haz than them being too weak on high haz, because the slowdown and lack of friendly fire is always going to give them a valuable role

tulip idol
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I remember I tried to stop a wave with ripper in tight tunnel, I used 1 - it quickly broke, I used 2 after - and I also had to assist with diffusion cooker slow & boiler ray

still geode
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ripper's damage cap makes no sense to me

tulip idol
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it just breaks for no reason

still geode
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i'd much rather see it limited by how frequently it can proc so that it doesn't hit the same enemy 40000 times when in a tiny tunnel

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instead of "oh hey it did 1k damage goodbye"

tulip idol
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it's like a boomerang, but since it's only damage that doesn't scale and gets applied in inconvenient way it's actually worse

still geode
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the sawblades feel like they should have a really high performance ceiling that is balanced by the restrictions on when they can actually reach it, but instead the only thing they're good at is killing teammates - a niche that driller already wasn't lacking at

rose yacht
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saw blades are really good at crushing bugs though...

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especially if u dig a fort.

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just be sure to position yourself and not get sawed.

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kek

wraith shard
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Tell me you don't play driller without telling me you don't play driller

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Saw blades are really good

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Theyre specialized to work in tighter tunnels (Where driller is a lot), you just have to aim them right so you get a wheel of bug death

tall prairie
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total greenbeard here, are there any guides that recommend how to allocated perk points etc as i level?

uneven sand
wraith shard
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Well then don't push ahead of driller

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Or have good team coms

uneven sand
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With randoms and it was my tunnel

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two drillers

wraith shard
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Damn

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You just need more drillers

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The optimal team balance is 4 driller obvi

uneven sand
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Unironically four of anything except scout rocks

wraith shard
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4 gunners on elim is just a massacre

uneven sand
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4 engis is dakka central

wraith shard
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Indeed

uneven sand
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4 drillers is space trench warfare

wraith shard
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Four drillers is just based

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You can give like almost every status you can inflict

vague oar
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Is the hurricane missle launcher worth upgrading and getting?

burnt sandal
tight willow
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except drillers starting pistol 💀

burnt sandal
vague oar
hearty narwhal
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Every weapon is worth it. They’re all very unique and can keep the game interesting.

trail pivot
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8 seconds, for real?

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thanks ripper, for doing what one charge shot of sludge would have done, even cheaper

coarse wharf
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not to mention that a good chunk of Impact Axe's damage gets multiplied by the frozen status

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combined with axe canceling, goodbye big bads

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(not to mention Impact Axes are extremely forgiving if you miss, you can kill bugs (by only dealing the AoE portion of damage) and still retrieve them, and you can clear out hazards like poison mushrooms in Fungus Bogs or crack open Ebonuts without consuming axes)

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such a good grenade that it's borderline illegal

celest ruin
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the second stage of the regular deep dive was painful

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never had to lay down so many vertical pipes

coarse wharf
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you can drill at 45 degree angles in a spiral, or just make tunnels that have turns

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as a driller, the only real cave limit is the border of bedrock/compressed granite surrounding any cave, so just use the entire cave to your advantage

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all those spaces of void you see in your terrain scanner? you can drill there.

fast lark
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))

tulip idol
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So you gotta spray it left to right

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I also admire spiral strat, it seems to be the best shape you can drill to protect yourself

pulsar bronze
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hello, bronze 2 star driller here, looking for a group to do an EDD. i've never gotten past the 3rd round

supple remnant
primal harness
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Any Tips for a Soon to Try Dwarf entering Deep Dives?

still geode
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nitra, health, and ammo carry over between tiers, so try to not leave any unused resupplies behind, and mine as much nitra as you can

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DD should be quite doable if you can stand your ground on haz4, EDD can be challenging even if you can perform decently on haz5

supple remnant
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iron will perk resets every stage so dont be afraid to use it if you need to even on stage 1

still geode
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same for other limited use perks like field medic and see you in hell

primal harness
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So bring Iron Will, got it

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and use up all supplies

still geode
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you can also talk to your teammates about mining gold before you start it

supple remnant
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well not neccesarily, but its a good perk and you can use it once every stage

still geode
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since gold just gives minimal amounts of credits and xp, it's arguably not particularly worth it to actually mine it, as every second you stick around could mean another set of bugs spawning that you have to kill

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but some people might want to mine it anyway, so it's best to come to an agreement beforehand

primal harness
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Oh alright, I just mine gold out of instinct

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Shiny Gold

manic pivotBOT
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_ _
rocknstoneATTENTION MINERS!rocknstone
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep_DiveDeep DivesDeep_Dive!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

still geode
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you can also take the middle of the road approach which is to just smack your pickaxe at the middle of the vein a few times to get the majority of the gold quickly and ignore the edges of it

primal harness
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Fair Enough, yeah

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Wait if the average Deep Dive is 45~60 minutes

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But a regular mission takes 25~30 minutes

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How does three missions fits into one Deep Dive

still geode
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deep dive stages are generally shorter than a regular mission

primal harness
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Ooooh ok

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So any mission objectives are here?

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Like Escort, Caretaker, etc

still geode
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any primary mission objective can show up, and each stage will have two mission objectives from the primary mission pool

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so for example, you might have a caretaker fight and then 2 alien eggs

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there is also a black box objective which is similar to the uplink/fuel sections of a normal salvage mission, where you have to stay in an area around the black box

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however unlike salvage, this one doesn't fail the mission if you leave the area for too long

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the mini mules objective is also only the mules themselves, and not the uplink/fuel cells

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another thing of note is that no resources spawn aside from nitra/gold

grim wadi
still geode
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another important aspects are that deep dives change once a week, but for the duration of that week the dive has the same stages with the same objectives for everyone, so you can learn the exact details of things like nitra locations and use them for future attempts if you don't succeed on the first try

coral pond
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if they're the first objective, you still gotta do the uplink/refuel

primal harness
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Oh okay, so essentially its a test of skill and teamwork with all these mini objectives

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Sounds cool af

dawn oxide
primal harness
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O h

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But there's Red Sugar around, right?

dawn oxide
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We had about one magazine worth of life on the caretaker last night.

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This was the second attempt and we had that much health on it the first time also. I don't know if I will try again.

primal harness
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Fun

round cedar
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My friend is not really doing well with the Scout. Is the Scout viable in EDD / H4+ missions? I have never played it, but he is working through the promotional quests and he keeps complaining that the class does zero damage compared to the other classes, saying he has to use 1/4 of his ammo on just one Preytorian. I feel like this is off - is it off base?

rugged portal
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either he using the class wrong which ill guess is the case here

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or unupgraded

fierce sparrow
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scout can do very well at higher hazards, every class is viable for all hazards and difficulty.

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if he has to use 1/4 of his ammo on 1 praetorian I begin to wonder if he's shooting the armor and not the weakspot

patent karma
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Idm helping with some builds for deep dives

round cedar
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If you want to give your gun build numbers then that would be cool

patent karma
round cedar
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None. He hasn't promoted any chars yet

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He will be doing the promotion assignment within the next few days

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He is level 25

warped veldt
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before you get overclocks, using his starting gear isnt terrible

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with upgrades obviously

wheat gull
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Getting fleshed out helps, but so does remembering to use the right playstyle. A stationary scout is a dead scout.

warped veldt
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yeah

patent karma
# round cedar He is level 25

Got it:
So, gk2 is good to pair with really any secondary, but I usally use either

  • GK2 (22212)
  • Boomstick (11313) or (11311)
    OR
    -GK2 (22211)
    -Crossbow (33112) or (31112)

For m1000, pairing with boomstick and zhukovs is best, so either

  • M1000 (13211)
  • Boomstick (11313)
    OR
  • M1000 (13121)
  • Zhukovs (as long as you use 112, the tier 4 and 5 can be anything)

PERSONALLY for my fist deep dive I used Drak with (21212) and crossbow with (32112)

warped veldt
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if you use scout by killing enemies like a driller would, then youll get overrun very quickly and die

patent karma
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There ya go

round cedar
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Ty!

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I'll pass it along

patent karma
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No problem!

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(Someone correct me if those builds are ass, but they worked for me so, idk)

warped veldt
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i found the zhukovs to be awful on ammo before getting ocs

patent karma
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Honestly they're not terrible if you take 1 ammo up

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and use them for more beefy targets

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Unloading into grunts will 100% burn your ammo dry

warped veldt
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i guess my issue is that both m1k and gk2 are good for beefy targets already

patent karma
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Personally I use m1k for grunt killing

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It hits such a good breakpoint

warped veldt
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unless im running drak i basically need my secondary to pick up some form of crowd control

patent karma
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and with superblowthrough it mows down ppl

rugged portal
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13213

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🤤

warped veldt
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yeah on grunts its nice

patent karma
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My personal favorite build rn is minimal clips m1000 built like (13111) and shotgun built like (11313)

warped veldt
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im more used to haz 5 where you basically need an effective swarmer killer because you never know when the game decides to spawn 894 in one wave

patent karma
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True

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I've been absolutely addicted to gk2 with overclocked firing mechanism

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Fuck AI engine, my gun goes BRRRT

coral pond
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21212 aise 🤤

warped veldt
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to me its the other way around lol

patent karma
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22221 overclocked is so fun

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You get to spray and clear grunts fucking quick

warped veldt
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ive tried ofm and it just feels so much worse despite being almost universally better on paper

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0 spread my beloved

patent karma
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If built for full RPM it does kind of

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It kicks HARD so not taking the tier 5 rpm mod is actually fine

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Plus take crossbow for your range needs

warped veldt
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maybe i should give it another shot

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i only unlocked aise yesterday and its already made me really biased towards it

coral pond
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21212 aise + gas recycling zhuks is stronk

rugged portal
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either gas recycling, blowthrough boomstick or bodkins point work with aise

round cedar
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Ok, another question if you all don't mind - do you get less resources if you blow them up with C4, like say nitra or gold?

coral pond
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no

patent karma
round cedar
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weird

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I just blew up two nitra things, very long

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and got 16 nitra

patent karma
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Some might of flied away idk

coral pond
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some chunks are probably across the cave, yeah

round cedar
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ok, but you know you don't ge tless. g2k

fluid cliff
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it’s the same amount

round cedar
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hm... maybe they silently changed it? That's the third time I've used a C4 explosive and I never got to 40

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have pots of gold on

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did a medium sized one manually and got almost 80 shards worth

woeful niche
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test it yourself on a deep dive

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they have the same seed so it shud be easy

warped veldt
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pots of gold only affects your pickaxe

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any other way of mining that gold will give you the full default amount

round cedar
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ok I was wondering if tha twas a factor

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good to know

wheat gull
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Finally got it done! Took a team of aces, smooth sailing.

brazen thunder
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Hi I was looking at starting deep dives soon, but do you need to be in coms for normal deep dives?

desert lynx
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oh my fucking god

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after like 10 tries

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I did it

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I finished the edd

tribal ruin
old widget
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don't really need comms for any DRG play IMO, ping tool is so versatile and effective

(but it is nice sometimes to just talk instead of ping)

lusty shuttle
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Are shredders buffed by lethal enemies? Sure feels like it.

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Also, my team had two bulks spawn at once in the second mission and we used one of them to kill the Arbalest.

desert lynx
lusty shuttle
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Yeah, a big swarm of them nearly wiped my team early in the mission.

little halo
wanton sandal
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Anyone else get double twins on the regular deep dive? 4 of em at once, from one egg?

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I've never seen that before, wondering if it's a bug or just a rare feature

unique ore
wanton sandal
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I don't think we had a wave that coincided with the egg pop, though the 2nd pair was delayed by a few seconds... I'll do a quick google and then probably report it

wanton surge
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Just did my first deep dive as a gunner with the second gunner without scout

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holy shit that was intense

near adder
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Anyone have a particularly hard time with this weeks elite deep dive?

cobalt radish
near adder
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The mutations on each level is rough this week

cobalt radish
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i just struggled with the uhh

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the amount of glyphids

near adder
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Didn't make it to the final stage I take it?

red carbon
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damn elite sems hard not even able to complete the normal 1 personaly nobody join always solo

cobalt radish
near adder
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I have a squad the is ready to take on the dives

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doesn't matter this week

cobalt radish
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btw can you rate my loadout for scout

near adder
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shield disruption right out the gate hurt my soul

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I play scout least, doubt I'd be much help

brisk spear
cobalt radish
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ok ill dm ya

near adder
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But some people in this community don't know how to build for shit

brisk spear
cobalt radish
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hold un

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oh

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i cant send images

brisk spear
cobalt radish
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still cant

brisk spear
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ah cause you dont have roles

cobalt radish
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done

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still cant lol

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nvm now i can

brisk spear
near adder
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is the role just the 4 classes?

wanton surge
brisk spear
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alright lol

wanton surge
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Almost promoted my scout and interested in ways to optimize him for dd

cobalt radish
brisk spear
cobalt radish
#

oh

wanton surge
proper hawk
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Lethal enemy shredder is a menace

cunning pond
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Any week where Sabo exists:

Guys??? Isn't this week a little fucked up???

pliant yoke
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Clearly not an indication that there is still something obnoxious about IS nice

coarse wharf
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it's not so bad once you are used to it, but that being said, some Rival Tech enemies are obnoxiously imbalanced

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idk, you just get used to the bullshit the game throws at you

rugged portal
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original patrol bots

dusty python
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just play driller with face melter, only thing you can't handle is the snipers

rugged portal
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😭

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bruh this man using direct fire damage against robot

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😭

little forge
zenith ember
#

IS is kinda tame this week with how much space you can play around imo

rose yacht
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EDD solo right now is pretty suicidal due to how vicious the buffs to enemies are.

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mboileft First stage [Shield disrupted.] and refinery + Dreadnaught.

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Last stage be like [Lethal] + Shredders and caretaker.

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[let's not talk about 2nd stage its probably ez.]

umbral wind
grim wadi
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now its 0.5 haz harder \o\

silk trench
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I feel like I'm trolling if I say I beat it and thought last week's was much harder.

coral pond
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skill issue :)

left mason
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Oh Esfand plays deep rock, nice!!!!!✊

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Has he streamed it yet?

bitter mist
burnt sandal
#

minor differences between the steam version and every other version (due to cave generation working a bit differently on Steam)

bitter mist
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Good to know, I haven’t done it yet, was gonna do it this week, guess I’ll skip until the next one

burnt sandal
#

outside of that, the seed is the same for everyone

zenith ember
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You still have ~ 3 days to attempt it though

bitter mist
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As someone who has barely gotten all classes to 1st promotion and have just the basics, I think I’ll wait until next seed 😉

silk trench
still geode
#

rewards are per stage cleared, so even if you don't think you'll be able to get all the way through, it can still be worth giving it a try

rugged portal
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if you dont want cosmetic oc then stage 2 is fine

old widget
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(Just don’t bail on the team in stage 3 unless you discuss beforehand, that’s a leaf lover move)

bold timber
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I only managed to beat this EDD because a bulk detonator spawned with the Glyphid Dreadnought

short chasm
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finally beat this EDD

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with a team of greenbeards actually

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I swear some of these lvl 40 players are way more coordinated than lvl 500 ones

mellow quail
#

I think this weeks normal deep dive stage 2 probably had the most scuffed liquid morkite refine placement ever

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Idk if its the same for u guys but holy shit the pipes had to be like the length of an entire country

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Its not a bad thing it was just super duper chaotic

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There was some loot bugs tho so loot

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Stage 2 my bad meant to say stage 2 not stage 3

thick epoch
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I was trying to sub 45 this with a scout and engi duo

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Then I saw stage 2 and died on the inside

bold timber
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Yup, I had to spiral one of the pipelines all the way down to the bottom of the map

supple remnant
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Lmao yea it’s gonna be rough to go quick on that stage without a driller but it’s def possible

bold timber
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One of my teammates dc’d midway through EDD stage 3

thick epoch
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Hey same

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In the middle of a swarm too

bold timber
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What will I do without my second gunner

supple remnant
bold timber
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Barely

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Driller was MVP

supple remnant
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Nice

bold timber
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He made caves around the bossfight that he could go through to revive us away from trouble

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That and my turret whip destroying sniper turrets that otherwise we couldn’t kill without our gunner

teal basalt
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this edd feels tough

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evil modifiers

bold timber
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I actually didn’t feel as though lethal enemies impacted level 3 as much as I thought it would

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Level 2 was the worst by far as the Swarm ate away at our supplies. I don’t think we could’ve won without BET-C

supple remnant
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This Edd was actually very smooth for me

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As was last week’s too

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It looks bad but really isn’t that bad

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Stage 2 can be a bit annoying but it’s still not that bad

chrome pilot
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god the 2nd stage is crap

thick epoch
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Last week’s gave me PTSD

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I never step foot out of drop pod for 2 minutes at start

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Truly horrendous LZ in stage 1

grim wadi
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oh ye it started off fun

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i wanna experience stage 2 of DD as an EDD, go full cursed

narrow hamlet
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If I repeat a DD do I get overclocks on the 2nd run?

brisk pagoda
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only once per week each from each stage of dd, edd, and core hunt

calm quest
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yeah iv not been able to win on level 2 of this current one

narrow hamlet
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So a total of 9 per week, ya think if I gather a group that they'd do a Edd with me? I'm a lvl 37 with the blue thing idk what to call it

pliant yoke
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Player level

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It's called player level

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EDD is a relatively 'tough' challenge, but I don't see why wouldn't you try

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I started doing EDDs with a group of friends (of similar level as mine) as soon as I got my first promotion

narrow hamlet
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Ah well thanks for correcting me I forgot and I'll try do one tomorrow

cunning pond
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Technically speaking
EDD is actually the highest difficulty in the vanilla game at hazard 5.5 stage 3 but also I think normal haz5 missions are probably worse since by stage 3 you should have a lot of hoarded nitra.

still geode
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also stage 3 reward isn't too important

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stage 1/2 are usually not too bad and are the rewards most people are after

narrow hamlet
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All about first 2

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I'm tryna get engineer overclocks

rugged portal
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the drip though

narrow hamlet
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Specially executioner for my Lok-1

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Drip rock galaxitc is important

cunning pond
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Well if that's all you care about then fair enough.

still geode
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exec lok1 fun

unique ore
still geode
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but by the time that you've played that long, you'd probably be good enough to clear stage 3 too

cunning pond
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Lmao. If you want every single core in the game then you'll need to collect more cosmetic cores than weapon cores.

But by then, you'll probably just have tons of blank cores just sitting around because now you get a black core for every weapon core you would've got.

still geode
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ye

narrow hamlet
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I like farming core stuff

thick epoch
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Is the matrix core loot table randomized with no repeats?

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Or do repeats default to blank cores?

cunning pond
thick epoch
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deep dive core rewards

cunning pond
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Well core rewards are never duped.
And you will only get blank cores if you have NO other cores to get for that category: Weapon/Cosmetic.

burnt sandal
cunning pond
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So if you want a gunner weapon core.
You will never get the same one.
And if you run out of gunner weapon cores.
You will still get some other class weapon cores instead of a blank core.

thick epoch
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Okay that’s what I thought

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Just wasn’t sure

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Too used to duplicate mods from games like warframe and what not

coral pond
thick epoch
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Are cosmetic overclocks unique cosmetics?

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Or do they also have previous season cosmetics in them

burnt sandal
thick epoch
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So then packs and crates are only previous season cosmetics then?

burnt sandal
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everything else is either going in the shop or in the cosmetic cores

valid mural
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Quick question, why did my Union thing reset? Does it reset every week/month or something?

burnt sandal
stuck condor
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1 question guys.

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will the deep dive rotation happen in 2 hours? like, the 3 goals? I got stuck on the 2nd stage because of the tubes

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(skill issue)

open girder
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hey guys, never done deep dives. Do I need premade?

lusty shuttle
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Nope.

burnt sandal
stuck condor
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thanks brother!

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rock and stone!

crude canyon
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im new to the game so I thought cores are duped

faint shell
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god forbid, there are like 200+

crude canyon
dense sage
cunning pond
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I'm pretty sure there's 148 weapon overclocks and then an absolute shit ton of cosmetic cores.

crude canyon
cunning pond
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Did some 2 second google searches.
There's like around 400 or so cosmetic cores.
About 100 per class.

safe junco
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literally just lost an elitet deep dive because of 2 dreadnaughts, a nemesis and a BET-C in one spot

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and it was a small area too

crude canyon
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the core grind is real

cunning pond
safe junco
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i forgot to specify

cunning pond
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I mean. That too.
Since its the same map seed

bleak crystal
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yeah my group died from the bet-c and nemesis combo too

cunning pond
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I'd say since its the same map seed.
Extremely high chance that's just what will happen in that exact same spot.

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😭

late spire
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Just pray you get a bulk.

safe junco
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we had both dreadnaughts chasing us too 😭

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bully

cunning pond
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But since its the same map seed you just.

Prepare a plan and fuck em up

safe junco
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i saw that

late spire
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Bulk in that spot can take out Bet-C and twins at once.

safe junco
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well im doing solo elite now so

late spire
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I'd recommend just trying to run away from Bet-C and snag her last.

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(Or just don't at all, she's not worth it)

safe junco
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im gonna snag her 2nd

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after nemesis

late spire
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If you can avoid it at all, just don't aggro Bet-C on that mission and pull the dreadnaughts up to spawn.

safe junco
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doing it while tired too

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its basically 1am

wheat gull
late spire
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I never take Bet-C on haz 5 if I can avoid it.

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Too much FF

cunning pond
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I always take betC because leaving her behind is rude

wheat gull
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The only reason I ever repair Bet-C is to stop the incessant screaming noise she makes after downing her

coral pond
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pretty sure bet-c doesn't even do friendly fire Sconk

late spire
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She 100% does. She's got fairly low values, but because she plasters it FUCKING EVERYWHERE it can stack up, particularly on higher diffs.

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And it also prevents your shields from recharging.

cunning pond
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She 100% does FF damage

coral pond
safe junco
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ahhh the last part of the deep dive is the two things i hate, mine morkite and the data rack

coral pond
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must be a positioning issue on y'all then, cause i don't think i've ever been hit by her ff

warped veldt
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she also does a lot of bug damage which is really nice

late spire
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You definitely have, you prolly just thought it was either a greenbeard or a bug

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Burst does 4 and bomb does 5 (on haz5). Not quite buzzsaw levels of FF, but it's enough that it's a nuisance.

warped veldt
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when i play haz 5 i find betc to be really useful

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yeah you can get hit by friendly fire but she can also solo a mini wave sometimes which lets you focus a lot more on the objectives

late spire
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She has a tendency to focus on the enemy I'm actively shooting, pelting me with all 8 of her shots. So she stays in the caves.

burnt sandal
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not a lot but still

stuck condor
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Finally! I DID IT! My first deep dive!

round cedar
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Can you do a deep dive and get the rewards once per character per week or is just just a flat once per account per week type of deal?

coral pond
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flat once per week

round cedar
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I'm guessing the latter instead of the former

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ok

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thanks

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If you accidently click skip on the promotion page where you can claim OCs, do you forfeit the OCs?

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or does it just give them to you, but not tell you what they were?

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I'm definitely hoping the latter for that one lol

coral pond
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it should still give them to you

wanton surge
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oh btw whats the difference between DD and EDD rewards wise?

cunning pond
wanton surge
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its kinda sadge that they give you the same bp xp as for single mission

cunning pond
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Well. Most people are interested in just more cores anyways.

wanton surge
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Is it always the same?

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like 1 stage - blank, 2.3rd are random cores?

round cedar
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yes

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stage 1 is blank core, stage 2 is random OC, stage 3 is random cosmetic

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Sometimes, I wish you could jump up and down like a clown while burning bugs in this game

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That would enhance the entertainment

wanton surge
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Thanks！

placid musk
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guys does bullets of mercy work on pheromoned targets

timid swan
placid musk
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yooooo

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thanks bro

muted turret
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i just leveled up my scout and know have accesses the deep dives any tips for deep dive?

timid swan
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bring something for the dreads, and something for general killing

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there is also an industrial sabo in this one

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the elite deep dive anyway

late spire
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Regular deep dive isn't too bad

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Difficulty-wise

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The second mission sucks cave-wise tho

lament musk
woeful niche
tardy girder
empty mountain
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whats everyones takes on the current elite deep dive second mission

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bet-c, nemesis, detonator, swarmageddon

desert lynx
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more fun than either two but still hard

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bet - c is the only really difficult wall

faint shell
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dude I got 3 detonators on it

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was nuts, that also just happened to be my first EDD... and solo to boot

frail charm
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so uh, does everyone get a bet-c and a nemesis in stage 2 of the EDD?

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ah, i just read up 3 messages. Seems everyone does

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stinky

empty mountain
desert lynx
faint shell
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overdrive booster

tropic crater
wanton surge
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holy shit this deep dive is no joke

winter bobcat
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I'm scared to do the edd this week

woeful patrol
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You can be scared

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Stage 3 is hell

glad trail
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little buggers, little tiny teeny little shit

coarse wharf
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man, one day if EDDs get swarmageddon + lethal enemies double warnings

uneven sand
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Got it done in 15m