deep-dive-discussion

[dapper bison]

I prefer burning nightmare to thin containment field tbh

[mighty temple]

alrighty ty for the info, ill give it a try 🙂 what would be your build for epc with energy rerouting lets say

[dapper bison]

Thin containment field is a bit too tedius for me

[untold saddle]

Do assignments -> unlock new stuff

[eternal zenith]

Ah ok btw how many hours can you poor into this game is it a game you play for 10 hrs and never touch again or do you playing for hundreds

[mighty temple]

and burning nightmare

[dapper bison]

I'm about 300 hours in

[drowsy holly]

703 hours over like 4 yrs

[olive flicker]

I'm at 190 hours.

[eternal zenith]

I know these are a lot of questions but is this game hard ?

[untold saddle]

Depends on how much you like the gameplay loop. If you like the combat and making new cool loadouts you can easily pour 1000 hours into this game

[prime willow]

it can be.

[dapper bison]

With energy rerouting i like 22221 or 22211 if you want the charge shot to be a bit bigger

[olive flicker]

You can set the difficulty to make it easy or quite hard.

[prime willow]

but there's 5ish difficulty levels

[drowsy holly]

difficulty is subjective but if youre coming from like a tide game its easier then a tide game but you go down more often. its just easier to get back up

[dapper bison]

But in tier 3 they are all good

[eternal zenith]

This game looks very good I like grindy games like this

[dapper bison]

12321 or 12311 also work

[mighty temple]

ye, seems very personal

[blissful tundra]

@stone yacht you wanna try now?

[eternal zenith]

Also there like 5 classes which is Best for solo play

[drowsy holly]

they all function fine solo

[olive flicker]

Different classes are good at different missions.

[dapper bison]

I would highly recommend going with ammo in tier 1 however

[drowsy holly]

but personally w hen i just started i liked the gunner his base guns are easy to use and the shield is a life saver. assuming you skip right to haz 3/4

if your in haz 1 /2 all the dwarves are gods

[eternal zenith]

Also can you beat this game

[dapper bison]

the 60 damage base charge shot is enough to ignite grunts and the normal shot damage mod also doesn't really help you ignite bugs any faster

[mighty temple]

yeah, either you taker 20% damage increase in regular shots or 1m radius for charged ones, but 1 ammo sounds necessary

ahhh i see

[stone yacht]

yus

[mighty temple]

when does the goo burn?

[untold saddle]

There is no 'end'. You can unlock everything ofcourse

[dapper bison]

the fire damage on your normal shots is 5 + 25% of your direct damage so the damage mod would only 1.25 heat

[eternal zenith]

Idk why but this game looks like terraria x borderlands which is a good thing

[dapper bison]

Which is not a lot

[dapper bison]

Puddles need 20 heat to burn

So with the base damage on the epc that should be 2 shots

[mighty temple]

jup

looking forward to trying it out 🙂

[brisk pagoda]

heat starts to shed on goo instantly so 2 is not enough since the bullets dont have infinite fire rate or travel speed. 2 base damage shots would only work if 2 drillers hit it at exactly the same time.

[dapper bison]

That's good to know

[stone yacht]

@blissful tundra we finally did it

[blissful tundra]

gg man

[stone yacht]

on 2nd try 😩

that was too stressful

me trying to zipline to dropod but falling

I followed molly but then she went up a wall...oof

[blissful tundra]

yeah that last cave is shit

[stone yacht]

tyy

[stone yacht]

Is Flowrate expansion trash (Cryo)?

[dapper bison]

Honestly never used it but it doesn't seem that bad

If i am reading this right all it does is make you shoot faster but you have to shoot more in burst

[queen rampart]

did my first elite a few minutes ago with two randoms

[dapper bison]

That seems nice

[queen rampart]

pretty challenging since the macteras keep spawning on three stages

[dapper bison]

Yeah this elite deep dive was rough

[queen rampart]

the gunner shield coming in clutch

although i find myself running out of ammo on my bulldog real fast

[dapper bison]

What do you run on the bulldog?

[queen rampart]

elephant rounds

[dapper bison]

Ah

There is your issue

[queen rampart]

it was pretty handy tho ngl

feels great to oneshot macteras

i ran it with ntp fear autocannon

leadburster came in clutch aswell

the second stage spawn was so terrible

came out of the drop pod and the entire city greeted us

[dapper bison]

Btw you don't need elephant rounds to oneshot mactera's

I think the normal mactera should die to base damage bulldog if you hit them in the weakspot

[queen rampart]

i see

i might change the bulldog build a bit later

right now it has 140 dmg with 3/24 ammo (forgot the build order)

i like the high damage it offers so i might just increase the ammo count a bit

iirc its -20 dmg and 3/36 for that

should be fine?

[dapper bison]

Oh yeah you can run full ammo elephant rounds

Wouldn't recomend shooting normal mactera's with it though

A 120 damage elephant round to the weakpoint on a mactera spawn deals enough damage to kill it twice

[queen rampart]

i wouldnt do it normally, only when i run out of ammo on my autocannon or if the situation really calls for it

since the current build has low ammo count, i try to be more sparing with it

never really ran into much issues on normal games

[prime yew]

any tips for 2nd stage EDD solo gunner, i always die to black box

[dapper bison]

I guess you could try plasma burster missiles on the hurricane

[queen rampart]

could ntp fear autocannon work? its the only proper build i have for the gunner outside of a clean OC leadstorm lmao

[prime yew]

i unfortunately dont have that overclock

[dapper bison]

NTP fear autocannon is probably the best autocannon build so why not

[queen rampart]

i guess you can also use cluster nades or leadburst for ur nades

[dapper bison]

Maybe try improving the accuracy so you can hit the mactera's easier

[queen rampart]

i didnt even bother for mine lmao

[prime yew]

i have been using cluster nades but i think i am throwing them in a wrong manner

ill stick to incendiary

[queen rampart]

you can chuck em while ur running or towards a group of enemies

[prime yew]

cuz i throw it either, if they are too close, i throw it on my feet and dash away

[queen rampart]

might take a bit of practice for it however

[prime yew]

or try to make the nade bounce on the roof and it detenates on the horde

[queen rampart]

sticky nade also works

[prime yew]

tru tru, everything takes practice after all

[queen rampart]

and theres like what, 8 of em?

[prime yew]

yes i think 8 sticky nades

no wait 6

[queen rampart]

ah

still plenty

cant really go wrong with any of gunner's nades

[prime yew]

yep

[queen rampart]

maybe be a bit more active (run more) while defending the blackbox?

that and use ur shields periodically

[prime yew]

i have tried running aroud in the outer perimiter of the black box and using hellfire coilgun and sheilds

and while my sheilds are up i take out the macteras

[queen rampart]

what did u run for ur primary

[prime yew]

lead storm Exhaust Vectoring (i got other oc), 31313

[queen rampart]

hmm

[prime yew]

the other oc, a little more oomph, bullet hell, compact feeding mechanism, thin drum walls

[queen rampart]

getting overwhelmed by the enemies would be the crux for solo gunner

leadstorm doesnt really have AoE capability aswell

so thats a double whammy lol

[prime yew]

yeah, i have been depending on blowthrough and helfire on coilgun

[queen rampart]

i think you can go for a more aoe focused build for your primary and your secondary can be whatever that compliments the primary

sticky nades might help since it procs fear

so that might help with the numbers

[prime yew]

yeah, sticky nades can help making a gliphid run to the horde and make big boom

[queen rampart]

yeah thats all the tips i can give honestly

i dont know anything else that can help

[prime yew]

can i ask, how good is big bertha on the heavy auto?

[umbral arrow]

pretty good

[queen rampart]

i dont have the OC so cant say

[prime yew]

oki

[swift heron]

big bertha is amazing, pairs really well with hellfire coingun too

since you're using that

[prime yew]

i am running, 32112

for heavy auto

[umbral arrow]

Ig this goes here but turret, drill, and satchels are refilled completely between each DD stage (I haven't confirm the others yet)

[queen rampart]

also iron will

had a teammate told me about it on my edd game

[prime yew]

heh i always run iron will and dash

[queen rampart]

iron will and field medic for me

[umbral arrow]

same thing but for scout i dont take dash

i take heighten sense

[prime yew]

same cuz he got enough mobility, cuz i love special powder

[umbral arrow]

the funni go speed

[prime yew]

thanks for the help m8s

[olive siren]

Eggs, eggs everywhere

[raw onyx]

does seeker oc work with blowthrough well

[stone yacht]

hm yeah I was thinking it's like half-decent. Kinda lame tbh

[stone yacht]

literaally the most difficult Elite Deep Dive I've had. I've never lost one before but this weeks it took me 6 tries. Tbf I had awful randoms. People who would start objectives without others and other dumb garbage lol

[dapper bison]

I think a big issue with flow rate expansion is that tuned cooler exists which gives the same flow rate buff but also +1 freezing power so why wouldn't you just use that if you have it

And yeah this elite deep dive was beyond hard

[stone yacht]

Idk something about this one seemed whack. Especially level 2

christ wtf was level 2

stage

[dapper bison]

I ended up doing it solo on Driller because the last time i tried it with randoms we just ran out of nitra

Solo i had plenty to spare

Stage 2 was the most fuck you Stage I have ever seen in this game

[stone yacht]

Man....maybe I should have tried it solo because I kept being the last one alive every stage 2 run. trying to rez my team who started objective with only 20 percent HP despite me pinging them to pick up all the red sugar

one run I said to someone 'pick it up before objective' and the other player said 'skip it' even tho it was right there and then they both died as soon as objective started xD

lol what a joke...should not have taken 6 tries. Always died stage 2

[jagged geyser]

We managed to beat edd2 only with copious amounts of dark siding

Me and my rando squad

That being said, I dedicated my entire fit for taking out flyers

Engineer, smart gun, beam smg, summon grenade

[dull stag]

alright, this week edd is difficult

failed like 5 times

3 times at stage one and 2 times at stage 2 lol

[rotund summit]

I guess I was lucky 3 at 3 and 1 at 2

[stone yacht]

Stage 2 is way worse than stage 3 imo

[dull stag]

What is stage 3 anyway?

[rotund summit]

box morkite but we didn't bunker 2 times and failed box the 3 times

[dull stag]

I once failed stage 2 immediately after getting out of dropod because the spawn is awful and just now lost at the box

Too much mactera came and we died stuck in a revive chain

[rotund summit]

have to drill and shield for the start of 2

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[dull meteor]

our gunner left at stage one and we really could’ve used a shield for the box on stage 2

mactera ripped us up

[sour oyster]

Same but our gunner downright refused to revive while his shield was down he tried to kill the spitball

We got the nexus before starting it but then they started it and spitball and mactera destroyed us

[patent elk]

Tried out deep dive first time. Got all the way to the final wave on salvage (second mission) then got bullied by 3 shellbacks, 2 elite pretorian, and an oppressor.

Guess I'm not ready yet for it

[stone yacht]

This week's one is especially harder than the prior weeks tbh

[red rover]

Newbie here, do deep dives get harder if you're in a party?

[lofty parrot]

Y’all wait until after the first swarm for the black box on edd s2. We started it almost immediately and then a swarm spawned.

[olive flicker]

I waited to finish all aquarqs before starting box.

[woeful niche]

id strongly recommend doing the black box on stage 2 immediately or right after the first swarm

if you wait too long, the passive mactera swarms will be annoying

[fringe thistle]

Black box EDD stage 2, I HIGHLY recommend digging down and building a bunker. Top off the hole with cheese, make a LONG straight entrance tunnel to funnel all the mactera into one death line.

Otherwise it's HELL

Even with all that, there's so many enemies that they sometimes make it into the bunker and you just have to start blasting with whatever you have. Bring good piercing or aoe options

Driller will be especially useful with their aoe primary shooting down the entire tunnel

We died like 3 times to stage 2 mactera swarms, it's crazy how scary they are

[burnt sandal]

the game scales up with player count in general, not just deep dives

[fringe thistle]

Also, I agree here. Personally I recommend collect some nitra for a resupply or two to have in the back pocket, and by the time you're finished you'll be dealing with the first swarm. After the first swarm, bunker down and start the black box.

[quiet lark]

depends on the party, typically more people makes it easier if you're all around the same skill level

[fringe thistle]

It's at an angle of a large flat slope, so there's no walls to back up against. Makes it really hard defending against all angles

[fringe thistle]

Adding onto what the others have said, while Bosco is helpful, I do recommend finding a good party to run it with. While it does make more enemies spawn with more HP and damage, having a well-rounded group to handle the swarms really helps a lot.

Try the normal deep dive first, and if that one comes out to be too difficult then the elite will be hell.

I recommend to use #lfg-steam to search for a party of other players here willing to run the deep dive. You'll be more successful at finding skilled and friendly players on the discord than you will hoping for randoms from in-game matchmaking.

Or one of the other #928582985559736360_ channels if you play on a different platform.

[primal venture]

Well the edd is gonna be crazy

[woeful niche]

i did the edd pretty easily with a greenbeard. I was using VIM and he had mjnigun. We did the black box immediately so the number of mactera was actually super manageable

[primal venture]

🤞

[woeful niche]

because the black box is out in the open you really have to listen out for when a mactera is targeting you and react quickly

the hardest part was when the game spawned like 3 goo bombers at the same time but luckily the black box finished then

[fringe thistle]

It's definitely difficult but doable. Depends on your team and what weapons y'all bring.

Just make sure you bring good single target DPS for the bosses first stage as well, otherwise the start will burn through all your nitra before you even get to stage 2. Happened to us, we struggled with ammo management.

LOK-1 Neurolasso with blowthrough rounds can definitely help in the bunker tunnel to stack slowing enemies with the team to let them do more damage together

[fringe thistle]

I would also recommend to have the scout bring cryo nades, as well as the engineer bring PGL to clear mactera better. It'll help

[fathom hazel]

Holy shit

This weeks EDD was fucking awful

Made it through second try

But goddamn

[tame isle]

hello

i just joined to cry and scream here

about the black box in the 2nd stage of tge elite deep dive

has anyone tried to do it solo?

I think it is not even possibpe at this point

im even starting to believe ut is a glitch the amount of macteras and trijaws that spawn at the same time

might be a glitch like the macteras spawning amount is meant for a full squad but it made its way to solo or something

[lime meteor]

he doesn't know

[tame isle]

wh

what

[lime meteor]

it's just average mactera plague warning

on haz 5

[tame isle]

then i give up

[lime meteor]

bring tcf

solves mactera

[grim laurel]

I did my first ever EDD today. I was playing scout (bronze 2) player level 34)) and got 170ish kills, 516 mined, i think 8/9/10 deaths and 6-8 revives.

i got hard carried

[paper ruin]

Anyone have a decent strategy for this weeks EDD in stage 2? Tried it a few times with a group I believed was competent, but we wiped at different points on stage 2 each time. The aquarqs are super easy to get, but the mactera plague combined with ambush swarms make it a mess to get any momentum going.

[woeful niche]

do the box as soon as you spawn or as soon as the first wave is finished

[compact vector]

tbh that's a decent chunk of minerals mined so good job at keeping the team on the move

(by not making them take time to mine minerals by themselves)

but yea EDD can be tough as scout, you really just need a proper crowd control option (I personally use pheromone bolts and grenade + fire bolt) to really make scout shine against these hordes of enemies

and falling doesn't really matter as long as you don't fall in a particularly hard-to-reach place or at a time where you being alive matters the most (such as black box defence or not making the Hiveguard/Dreadnought boss do another attack cycle)

[grim laurel]

i was running deep core and special powder boomstick, definitely not the most optimized but keeps you mobile, especially with battle frenzy

just zipping around cave unnecessarily fast

[supple garden]

So what is the mission scaling of the regular deep dive?

[prime yew]

FINALLY I BEAT STAGE 2 EDD

[queen rampart]

nice

what build did you end up with @prime yew

[compact vector]

hazard 3 -> hazard 3.5 -> hazard 3.5

never goes up to 4 so it's supposed to be pretty manageable

[severe finch]

Hmmmm

I've dc'd at the same gold vein twice now

[prime yew]

its same thing but for the black box, i made a small tunnel under the black box so everyone can be in a line

thunderhead , 32212 Big bertha
Coil gun , 32122 Hell fire
cluster grenades

[queen rampart]

nice

[pearl nimbus]

Yeah but elite/lethal enemies makes things a lot worse

[young yew]

Don't hit me, but I've never really had any big issues with those across pretty much all haz

[compact vector]

elite enemies is mostly fine, including Elite Bulks which are just more bullet spongy than normal

one small thing to note however that can throw the game pretty badly with enough bad luck - elite grabbers

[young yew]

HS underrated perk

[pearl nimbus]

Don't hit me, but saying the fact that Elite/Lethal makes a hazard more dangerous than it says really doesn't elicit a humblebrag

it's got the "it works on my machine" energy

[olive flicker]

If only I could tame elite grunts.

[young yew]

Yeah, didn't mean to give my experience any objective shine. Just wanted to add my subjective opinion 😀

[young yew]

Tamed elite grabber ftw

I read today that grabbers can pick up lures

Effin awesome

[south oak]

Grabbers can pick up lures

As well as nemesis

[young yew]

Ah. So Lure against Nemesis can be pretty useful

[dapper bison]

Elite thread can be fun, the elite mactera grabber has to be my favourite enemy in this game. Non grabber elite mactera's can go to hell though fast annoying little shits.

Elite bulks are also kind of funny

Unless you have to do an event that forces you to stay in place

Lethal enemies is fine but screw lethal swarmers

[compact vector]

Elite Praetoreans can be pretty scary on Escort Duty

but otherwise you can do the old trick of circling around them

[fresh citrus]

Hello, am i only who see second level of elite DD as shitstorm?

[pliant yoke]

What’s giving you trouble?

[dapper bison]

Nah that is a pretty common opinion this week

[burnt sandal]

people in general have trouble dealing with large amount of macteras

whenever there's mactera plague, people have a hard time and the cave gen can exacerbate the issue

plus, it's black box on a point extraction

so time is of the essence on top of it all

[pliant yoke]

I tend to back off to cover during Mactera plague, at least when I’m not Scout. Prioritise Tri jaws and side-step spawns. What doesn’t make things easier is the placement of the box on that map

There is no cover

So one can rely on Engies to make a roof with platforms, Driller to make a bunker under the box or Gunner to use shield responsibly for the team to manage tougher compositions

[zenith ember]

can try to bunker below the box ig, but other than that eh

hope that your team can kill both grunts and macteras fast enough?

[pliant yoke]

We (my team) didn’t. It didn’t end well, but we managed to get out alive, somehow

[queen rampart]

Look like we gonna need 2 engi in this EDD

[zenith ember]

cryo driller is a godsend for my run

[queen rampart]

Well. Those flying bug gonna need to be kill by someone

[severe finch]

Beat the EDD, and almost single handedly killed the entire team at the same time

Was doing the black box in stage 2 when I saw a good time to use a C4 charge

So i threw one out... and it landed 1 millimeter away from me. With me and the rest of the gang in the blast radius

It's honestly a miracle it didn't get set off because I was using the volitaile explosive perk

[fresh citrus]

Its like in meme, where soldiers use rocket, and its instead of flying, just "POOP" out of pipe)

[bleak mulch]

hi, i´ve just joined and wanted to ask a question - is there supposed to be a sale around the 1st of march?

[burnt sandal]

we don't know

only the devs know and they don't share those info publicly

if I had to guess though, I think the chances for a sale are pretty high

[bleak mulch]

okay, thanks

[wet sentinel]

had a nemesis show up on stage 3

was uhh

was very NOT fun

[ashen trail]

Just win

[wet sentinel]

[untold saddle]

Also had a nemesis on stage 3 but there were no other enemies so it went down really fast

This was probably one of the more fun EDD's from recent memory

[old widget]

It was a good one. Biggest advice I'd give is to go /fast/, push push push on stages 1 and 2. We went into stage 3 with over 250 nitra due to an attentive scout and lack of dallying.

(Good advice in general for EDDs, but particularly important on lower nitra weeks)

We somehow missed Nemmy on stage 3, and we did not go particularly fast on that stage

[scarlet ravine]

I didn't get a Nemesis the first time I ran the EDD, but did the second time

[lime meteor]

level threat

[tall meadow]

Dread showed in stage 3 in 2 separate runs of EDD

fun fun

[heavy girder]

I had a Nemesis spawn on the escape to the drop pod, and I was out of revives

I had Iron Will, but fuck, the EDD was hell

I got Efficiency Tweaks from it, so it was worth it

Stage 2 is a casual filter. Don't kill the HVTs quickly enough, you'll get swarmed and most likely wipe

[olive flicker]

What's HVT?

[scarlet ravine]

high value targets

[olive flicker]

Damn fancy speak.

[quasi quest]

Second edd win let’s go

[turbid obsidian]

Does anyone tell me from which server I get web designing or logo designing clients?

[native bridge]

my god edd stage 2 is absurd

neruoxin plus fear is a must have it throws so many at you

[scarlet ravine]

hurricane with stun is a great counter to the mactera plague as well

[lean portal]

okay so

I got screwed over by someone just abandoning/cancelling deep dive mid way

[verbal pecan]

O I F

[verbal pecan]

That sucks man

[lean portal]

Another failed attempt

This time I was forced to leave Scout Gaming team alone because my mom got angry at me gaming

I dislike not being able to vibe to my accord thanks to my parents reminding me that I have school (stressful for my autism-filled ass) and also the Big Name Exams coming up in a few months

[torn kayak]

EDD 2nd stage was easy, all we did was create a bunker with a makeshift escape route, then engineer does the bait with breach cutter whilst the driller does the ice spam with chainsaw (for that stupid blackbox)

[sterile basin]

this EDD has been fun. I've enjoyed replaying it as driller just to help people beat it

[sterile basin]

ayyy, had a host bail on one a couple days ago, presumable because we didn't pick him up fast enough. For the 12th time. It happens, but thankfully it's pretty rare in this community

[sterile basin]

after experimenting I've found that I prefer goo driller on this one. Cryo works great too, it just falls off hard on stage 3 against machines

[scenic wyvern]

EDD Stage 2. Recommend using sludge pump and make a bunker, only driller creating sludge pumps on ground and walls, especially avoiding grabbers.

IMO driller’s cryo may not be the best for stage 2 but scout’s cryo grenade may be better

[fathom hazel]

The nemesis was such a pain in the ass on the last stage

[fringe thistle]

EDD stage 2 bunker at the black box. Shits spooky, you get swarmed by every bug and it's mother from 360° and the sky.

[lone monolith]

management was in a really bad mood this week, kept sending drop pods into the ceiling and ridiculous places and almost getting us killed lol

for the EDD that is

[radiant halo]

ohh my god last night my friends as i did the edd and died on the extraction of the final stage

i have never been so displeased we did so well up until the end there

[brazen eagle]

Any tips for today DD?

[stone yacht]

Bunker for Stage 2 for black box. And bring a lot of crowd control for second and 3rd stage too

[young yew]

DD or EDD?

[lone monolith]

DD nothing in particular, it was pretty straightforward. EDD was tougher —be ready for the mactera swarm at the beginning of stage 2 and keep on top of HVTs as they spawn, and be ready to dig / platform to the drop pods at the end of stages because they are in some bizarre spots

[queen whale]

mactera spawns in EDD are INSANE

[obtuse mortar]

hey whats the elite deep dive this week

[queen whale]

first stage is 2 dreadnaughts (twins and hiveguard) plus a blackbox

second is point extraction plus blackbox with mactera plague

[obtuse mortar]

oof

[queen whale]

dunno third

it was bad

[obtuse mortar]

thanks

[burnt sandal]

check the pinned message

it's updated every week

[queen whale]

oh hey that's cool

#deep-dive-discussion message

[obtuse mortar]

i didn't know that thanks

[brisk pagoda]

bots take double damage from ice. so bring ice storm and youll delete them from pure dps almost as fast as a high heat flamethrower build kills with the dot.

[fringe thistle]

Third stage is morkite and black box with rival presence.

[woeful niche]

i like to bring sludge on edds cus it kills dreads and robots pretty well

[tight dragon]

Completed my first solo deep dive

[wraith shard]

man second stage of evlite is hell

[marsh beacon]

I’ve never done a deep dive before and I want to attempt one tomorrow what are they like

[tight dragon]

Fun

I like them

[marsh beacon]

Ok

[tight dragon]

It was my first one

And I enjoyed it

[marsh beacon]

Ok

[tight dragon]

Are you xbox?

[marsh beacon]

Ps5

[tight dragon]

dang

I don’t think that’s cross play with xbox

[marsh beacon]

It’s not yet ):

[tight dragon]

either way normal deep dives aren’t too hard

[marsh beacon]

Ok

[burnt sandal]

indeed, there's no crossplay on DRG

[tight dragon]

: O

[marsh beacon]

Yeah I got my friend to get drg and he got it in pc and I forgot it wasn’t cross play ):

[wraith shard]

the deep dive was a breeze this week.

the elite was hell, not much Nitra this time to go around.

1st attempt tko on second mission cause of the mactera and constant swarms.

2nd attempt server error on last level 😭

3rd attempt barley scarped by

[tight dragon]

I hate industrial sabotage as the last one but the caretaker was easy

[magic lava]

Is it the edd stage 3 seed that was changed?

Or just dd ?

[vagrant heron]

Yeah, I'm not the best player around, but we got wrecked on stage 2. That was crazy.

[olive flicker]

According to pins only dd.

[scenic wyvern]

day 3 EDD

[kindred tangle]

have you guys seen joe

[untold torrent]

who

[woeful niche]

joe mama

[woeful niche]

why was it changed

[verbal pecan]

Well people have been slightly peeved from having data rack every deep dive, and sometimes even two per deep dive, so that's why, people are burnt out of it rn

[lofty parrot]

Having data racks be in the assignment and dd rotation was a terrible change

[burnt sandal]

having data racks be in the assignment and DD rotations was a great change

[hushed sequoia]

i too like making the game worse

[burnt sandal]

"I dislike a mission therefore it's bad design"

[hushed sequoia]

well yes

perhaps if it wasn't bad i would like it

[burnt sandal]

personal taste is not a compelling argument

[trail pivot]

only reason i was even doing sab was because of the weekly

[vagrant heron]

I don't mind sabo. It's a neat change of pace. I didn't like when it was in every DD and EDD, but I built one one my dwarves around it because of how unique it is, and I like it now.

Some of the maps it generates are... in need of modification. Like the ones where both the powerstations go through one tunnel, but the tunnel is 15 miles long.

Never at a loss for nitra, defend 2 points, then a boss battle that is hard enough at higher levels. What's not to like?

[trail pivot]

it's a nice playground for driller and engineer at least

[rugged portal]

psure the general reception of sabotage is it take too long

[vagrant heron]

It takes a while, I suppose. A doretta mission takes a long time, too. But, I don't hear people complaining. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'm down bad for dotty

[vagrant heron]

I'm a scout main, and the VSS for shredders, supercooling chamber for bots and turrets, and trifork for the caretaker's arms is fun.

[burnt sandal]

they used to complain a shit ton about it

but they moved on to IS instead

[vagrant heron]

Oh? I guess I'm showing the green of my beard. Only played since Nov lol

[rugged portal]

well you ave to either build extremely long tunnel to skip obnoxious shield phase or hope map generation is generous enough that you can build platform high enough to avoid the shield

[vagrant heron]

? Do you mean the orange forcefield things that shoot out of the caretaker?

[rugged portal]

yeah

[burnt sandal]

all good lol, don't worry

[vagrant heron]

Can't you just... move?

[rugged portal]

remember that you can't shoot through it either

gunner shield doesn't work

and it deal shitload of damage

[burnt sandal]

you're supposed to avoid it yeah

[vagrant heron]

Right. I just move around them.

[burnt sandal]

which isn't hard

[vagrant heron]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rugged portal]

the only thing you can do at all is moving

just having platform above the shield just make the fight 10 times better

[burnt sandal]

yeah, that's the point

[trail pivot]

doesn't everyone just do the tunnel thing ?

the easiest way bulldoze the caretaker

[burnt sandal]

literally never saw it

[rugged portal]

typo

didn't mean to type don't

[woeful niche]

idk why ppl hate sabo so much. Escort had a lot of the same issues + it wud sometimes pop eggs. Ig ppl just really hate bots

[verbal pecan]

It's the bots and like I said, it was happening too often in a row

[woeful niche]

sure but this dd didn’t even have 2

[serene wyvern]

greenbeard here, do people help carry elite deep dives?

[brisk spear]

shouldnt be too hard to find someone willing to carry you through an EDD, just make sure you clarify thats what youre looking for beforehand

[torn kayak]

To be able to finish EDD on this rotation would require you to have a driller who can create a bunker for all 3 of you guys to make through the mactera plague for the blackbox on the 2nd map and a engineer who uses breach cutter with a returning oc/ and a bait grenade to "safely" make through the cruel waves of the macteras on blackbox. number 1 reason for the whole team on EDD to perish on the 2nd map

some may say they can but that is because they know and experienced but inexperienced people will have trouble and 1 downed player is enough to potentially destroy your EDD runs on the 2nd map. Especially when a gunner does not intend to use the shield (which believe it or not happens more than often and feign ignorance for ego or something)

excuse my grammar btw, just adding this as fast as I can whilst doing a review for exams

[serene wyvern]

hmm so you say that those strats are mandatory

also if you just finish the first 2 missions you still keep the 2 cores, right?

[queen rampart]

i had a teammate die on the second mission (on the black box) because of the macteras and we just used his body as bait while everyone else bunkered

[torn kayak]

I wouldnt say mandatory but as an insurance to safely get through the blackbox on 2nd map. do note that all maps on EDD are blackbox 2nd objective but the second map is the most painful one to get through

do whatever it feels good for your build but engineer (imo) has the best situation for the 2nd map blackbox the one I mentioned, provided if the driller does make the bunker around the blackbox or for anyone listening in game

[coral pond]

I have less issues with it now since it's frequency of being in assignments/dds has gone down significantly, but when s3 started there was just way too many of them. Basically every assignment i was doing a sabo, then had to do one for a deep dive(a couple times for both dives). So for the first like 2 months or so of season 3, sabo was probably my most played mission type and it was really hurting my enjoyment of the game by how repetitive it was. And i abused the core hunt promotion glitch then too, which only amplified it. Especially since i really could only make real progress during the weekend at the time

[sterile basin]

does anybody use mods to make regular DD as hard as EDDs? looking to get into this

[hushed sequoia]

all deep dives hazard 5 is nice

it makes stage 3 of the edd slightly easier but it's already not very noticeable imo

[sterile basin]

perfect, thank you

[snow arrow]

Is anyone having trouble joining an EDD?

[burnt sandal]

are you trying to join ongoing EDD ?

[snow arrow]

unless the ones that arent grayed out are ongoing, then no

[burnt sandal]

what kind of error do you get ?

[burnt sandal]

actually, I just realised today's Steam Maintenance Day, so that explains it

[snow arrow]

ah

thanks

[round snow]

Is completing the DD for the week part of an assignment? or do you just get the rewards at the end for finishing?

[burnt sandal]

you get rewards on each stage

[round snow]

Ok, for just the normal DD is any old setup usually sufficient? Or are "builds" still somewhat required?

[burnt sandal]

no specific builds are required
that also goes for the elite deep dive

[round snow]

nice, time to give it a go

[fringe thistle]

Just have splash/piercing and funneling tactics with a bunker for stage 2 black box and waves. You don't need specific builds, just make sure you can kill a lot of bugs in groups.

On the EDD, I mean. It's definitely the hardest segment like everybody else mentioned.

The mactera plague is HELL

[steep karma]

Yea, bunker is a must

Like, rhe AQ collection isnt that hard

[outer magnet]

Hi I see a timer icon under the join button for deep dives with 1:03:14 what does it mean?

[tribal sable]

That's your last recorded time.

[outer magnet]

o

[tribal sable]

Or, best, I think. Either or.

[fossil panther]

That's how long until it refreshes

[tribal sable]

Refresh is the top-right.

[outer magnet]

do DD and EDD have different reward slots

so you can get rewards from both a week

[fossil panther]

Same set of rewards

[outer magnet]

so you can only do one and get rewards?

[fossil panther]

Mhm, tho you can get twice as many if you do both

[outer magnet]

what

sorry im not sure i understand that

[fossil panther]

They give out the same rewards- Blank core, weapon oc core, and cosmetic core for first completion per week

But their completions are tracked seperately

you finish regular deep dive, can still do elite to get its rewards

[outer magnet]

oh ok ty!

[celest drum]

is there a reason to do the same deep dive twice once already beat? other than xp ofc. you don't get more core rewards, do you?

[wet sentinel]

you dont get more

if you enjoy the length and the difficulty of deep dives it can be fun doing them again

solely for fun

[violet warren]

This EDD was pretty difficult, though that might've been due to being with a team of newly-promoted greenbeards and having the gunner disconnect halfway through stage 1

Still managed to pull through, though I had to clutch it with iron will in stage 2

[queen rampart]

Man. Stage 2 Matera infestation need some attetion

For me Strongly go with 2 engineer, 1 scout and Driller last

[woeful niche]

what’s wrong with gunner

[queen rampart]

Nothing. Just need something to kill flying pest fast enough
Do gunner have weapons for like kill flying thing fast?

[olive flicker]

The gun that shoots a lot of bullets?

[queen rampart]

Hurricane single target damage i guess

Jet fuel could help on this Single

[scenic wyvern]

it works good for all classes

[woeful niche]

any primary that isn’t autocannon works well

[next blaze]

AoE-built Hurricane is also super solid, especially with stun for locking down the ones caught on the fringes of the blasts

[scenic wyvern]

driller highly recommend use sludge after making bunker

[next blaze]

and fear on coil gun scatters them really well

[queen rampart]

But the area is big enough

You not like...being choke by small hall way

[next blaze]

Totally, that's what I used without a bunker, out in the open

[queen rampart]

Also stay near the on-site mining for small extra cover

[scenic wyvern]

let driller do the killing, you have to be wise on stage 3 because of low chances of nitra

[queen rampart]

From my run. 2 others left only me (scout) and engi with nuke

I guess he do most of the cover thing

Stage 2 this time is asking for teamwork a lot

[queen rampart]

I usually do the calling out if we have enough for 1 sup

If plenty i don't have to

[rugged vortex]

The black box being out in the open with Mactera Plague makes it so hard without coordination

Tried it first time and we failed but we decided to go for goofy ahh 3 gunner 1 driller strat with some friends and it actually worked pretty well

[young yew]

Autocannon or Bulldog

AC works for multiple flyers at the same time, BD is better for one or two max

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[queen rampart]

Oh ok

See you tomorrow 6Pm

[scenic wyvern]

oh god ive been doing EDD for 5 days

[rugged portal]

lol

[rugged vortex]

I did it yesterday with AISE gk2 and SS boomstick, lotta zipping around but it was doable

[woeful niche]

i’d say autocannon is pretty bad for mactera given it’s super low accuracy

[rugged portal]

that what gunner secondary is for

hvt

[young yew]

Spray and pray works pretty well with M swarms, plus there are a lot of OCs as well as the T2A mod that help with accuracy

The way to shoot with it is markedly different compared to sth like the minigun

[woeful niche]

it isn’t different it’s just worse

at least on the context of shooting mactera

[woeful niche]

those due help, but i’d still say take hurricane over autocannon if ur struggling. Hurricane has way better accuracy, equal or better aoe depending on ocs, and free stun

[young yew]

Yeah Hurricane is prob more effective and can also cover fewer targets. I just like AC and it works ok for me against flyers

Haha

[zealous fog]

yeah im struggling with this big time

think im on 4 or 5 attempts with no success

[round forum]

Bring a driller with snowball and axe grenade, mactera is die in one sec

[open warren]

Im suddenly being dragged into my first edd, wish me luck

[olive jackal]

How can you be dragged suddenly? Your friend tricked you into this?

[olive flicker]

Peer pressure.

[patent elk]

Black mail

[open warren]

No, i was in a random lobby after a mission, and the host suggested edd.
We managed to do 2/3 missions, so im happy :D

[wild patio]

Honestly the neurotoxin payload OC helped a lot on stage 2, i was able to solo it in fact due to the OC being very strong in general. I couldn't beat stage 3 but that was more of my own fault rather than it being difficult

[candid cave]

ehh

I rather have a splintering shells teammate over ntp

I need enemies dead now not later

[snow arrow]

what, in your opinion, is the best primary for engi in the edd

[rain obsidian]

Compared to Deep dives, how hard are the elite deep dives?

[burnt sandal]

deep dives are haz 3/3.5/3.5 for each stage respectively
Elite deep dives are haz 4.5/5/5.5

[rain obsidian]

Oh, I thought DD's were at 3-5 difficulty.

[burnt sandal]

nope 😄

[rain obsidian]

Well dang. Now I feel a lot less proud for those DD's that went so smoothly.

sad dwarf noises

[olive flicker]

Difference between DD and EDD is quite significant.

[candid cave]

probably mpa or overclocked warthog imo

[woeful niche]

it doesn’t matter when they are pretty much dead once the fear is over

[candid cave]

mactera still get a shot off

that's important for stage 2 box

[woeful niche]

i like exec for this edd

[snow arrow]

exec?

[woeful niche]

sure but u were comparing ntp to splintering. We both know splintering is not killing a mactera faster then it can shoot lol

[coral pond]

Executioner, loki oc

[woeful niche]

executioner loki. It deletes dreads, mactera and robots

[snow arrow]

alright

[woeful niche]

literally everything this edd throws at u basically

[candid cave]

fair enough lmao

idk what ac ocs are since I only run Bertha

[coral pond]

Carpet > splintering :\

[candid cave]

jet fuel homebrew my belowed

[coral pond]

I can't vibe with the hurricane. Tho plasma burster doesn't seem horrible for mactera plague

[candid cave]

As much as I like the hurricane I don't run it anymore

[hollow dove]

gawdaamn did my first edd 😰

"""only""" took three tries

I died like a thousand times on the last mission :/

team carried tho

and still that was a damn nightmare tbh

[stone yacht]

Anyone wants to run Haz 4/ Haz 5 missions in like 20 mins?

[burnt sandal]

congrats 😄

even if you went down a lot, you pulled through regardless

[burnt sandal]

#lfg-steam and other LFG channels are this way

[digital needle]

Whats the third stage of the EDD like?

[hollow dove]

I didn't get to the drop pod but one of us successfully lived 😎

[hollow dove]

so that still counts :D

[burnt sandal]

pinned message

[digital needle]

Oh ok ty

[burnt sandal]

it counts

[stone yacht]

Oh true true. Ty.

[hollow dove]

imagine doing an EDD before completing a single haz 5 mission, couldn't be me

[burnt sandal]

np

[burnt sandal]

I did that too

[hollow dove]

[woeful niche]

lol is this a joke?

[coral pond]

No :)

[woeful niche]

they have like the same aoe except:

1. Hurricane is accurate
2. Hurricane has stun
3. frag is a clean so it has downside

[coral pond]

How is hurricane relevant to this

[woeful niche]

fuck i’m blind i thought that read frag

splintering vs carpet bomber is pretty much preference. Splintering has better single target and does better against groups of 3 or less grunts. Carpet is better for larger swarms but obvously way worse for single target

I think all the autocannon ocs besides ntp are pretty balanced

[zealous fog]

damn I cant beat this EDD

[stone yacht]

I know they do different things, but which Overclock do you think have more of a kick to it. Ice Storm or Snowball.

I know Snowball seems to be a favorite in here for taking down flying enemies

[jolly pumice]

If you just want raw damage, ice storm. Snowball is more for sniping HVTs

[stone yacht]

Part of me feels like Facemelter is just better in general than Ice Storm but I suppose you get the added bonus that everyone does even MORE additional damage to frozen targets.

Will try Ice Storm in a bit.

[open warren]

Karl once threw a grenate

517 dead glyphids and 5 more dreads gone

Then the grenate exploded

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[grim wadi]

well...... that EDD was WORK, we ran out of ammo stage 3 and that was it, but one guy had the genius idea to bunker the black box which worked amazingly on stage 2, mactera way easier that way

[queen rampart]

• 2 teammates got down
• No one go save them, they quit. I was busy with nitra
• only me and engineer with fat boy
• me Just straight up typing: I have been worse!

• Engi clutching the team with a lot of fatboy

• No down for the rest of stage 2 and 3

• Call out when we have enough for 1 supply

[stone yacht]

Which 5th tier mod do you take with EPC if it's with Heavy Hitter (and don't want to mine).

When paired with Cryo (running Ice Storm)

-Burning Nightmare, since you keep the 40+ damage and light things on fire, potentially finishing off low health frozen targets with temp shock?

Or

-Plasma Splash, since Heavy hitter gives this more splash damage despite losing out on direct damage. And you can still trigger temp shock I believe. Would be better for cleaning up frozen crowds too (if they didn't die instantly from Cold Radiance + Ice Storm)

[burnt sandal]

if you intend to shoot at big frozen targets, you ignore BN and go for TCF : it's not much but it won't temp shock them and you get a tiny boost on heat per shot.
Always ignore plasma splash because it's garbage.

[stone yacht]

But isn't temp shock better for damage. Wouldn't I want that.

I didn't plan to mine so didn't see the point of taking TCF 🤔

[stone yacht]

Also Ty for ur insight. Just trying to figure out which 5th tier

[burnt sandal]

Temp shock deals only 200 damage. While it's fine on weak enemies, you're better off dealing 120 damage per shot on frozen enemies 😄

(40 damage x 3, because of the frozen damage multiplier)

[stone yacht]

Fair fair. Okay makes sense.

But is Plasma Splash AoE worth it with Heavy Hitter if you wish to preserve ammo on cryo and wish to clear up crowds with EPC?

Or Plasma Splash is just a Garbo mod?

[burnt sandal]

The AoE doesn't get damage from the frozen multiplier or from weakpoints and there's no point in a weak AoE when you can just use charged shots

hence why it's considered garbage

[stone yacht]

Oof

[burnt sandal]

and if you want to conserve ammo using cryo, just pick the damage mod on the drills and drill the frozen enemies

[stone yacht]

Honestly that's what I usually do haha

[burnt sandal]

it's very efficient and it procs vampire (so +5 health per kill)

[stone yacht]

Well EPC mod it is

[burnt sandal]

so why ever use plasma splash

[stone yacht]

TCF*

[stone yacht]

Yeah. That's how I often Rez myself

Out of iron will

Plus axes

[burnt sandal]

Anyway, don't let me stop you from experimenting with plasma splash regardless

maybe you'll like it

but overall i think it's the worst mod in the game lol (without counting the bugger ones)

[stone yacht]

https://karl.gg/preview/8177#/

[stone yacht]

I saw this build so I thought I would try the Plasma Splash but with Heavy Hitter since I don't have this person's overclock (since it seems pretty useful for the build).

[burnt sandal]

i don't even understand why they need plasma splash on that build tbh 😄

TCF work just fine with persistent plasma

[quiet lark]

even if you don't want to epc mine tcf still takes massive chunks out of enemies healthbars

[stone yacht]

Haha I suck at landing it tbh 🥴

[quiet lark]

takes some practice but once you have it down you can reliably knock out HVTs with just a few shots

[burnt sandal]

even if you don't use TCF, it's less heat generated per shot, which is always good for HH

[quiet lark]

yeah you get double benefits

[burnt sandal]

TCF is too strong anyway 🤣

it's hard to justify not taking it if you don't want to use BN

and there's no competition because plasma splash is bad

[stone yacht]

HG?

HH*?

[quiet lark]

TCF is like the main thing that keeps driller fun for me

[burnt sandal]

Heavy Hitter

[quiet lark]

its nice to have a high skill high reward option when your primary is W + M1

[stone yacht]

But with this primary, Automatic Subata or Heavy Hitter EPC better?

Overall based on that person's build I was just giving Cryo Ice Storm a spin over Facemelter Flamethrower. Just for experimentation

[burnt sandal]

Heavy Hitter EPC is always gonna be the better choice here. Subata can work but it's not really a contest lol, unless you wanna keep something to snipe enemies from a far.
the main appeal of subata is weakpoint damage, which you don't get on frozen enemies.

[stone yacht]

Tbh I am not a fan of any of Drillers secondaries 😅. Trying to enjoy them more.

Of the primaries, my fav is sludge pump tho (wish I actually got an overclock for it..so many cool ones).

Whereas I love my Gunner (which is my main) with stuff like Hellfire Coilgun and Salvo Module Rocket Launcher as two examples. So good for clearing up crowds in this case. And dealing huge damage with charged shots from Salvo.

I do like Driller a lot but I'm just trying to get into the secondaries

[stone yacht]

Noted

[stone yacht]

"W1 + M1"
Not sure if I understand tbh 🤔

[quiet lark]

W moves you forward, M1 fires the cryo

or flamethrower

sludge pump actually does require some decent aim tbf

[burnt sandal]

the driller has weird secondaries, it takes some time getting used to

[stone yacht]

Ty for all the advice!

[wild patio]

is there a mactera modifier for this week's elite deep dive?

[burnt sandal]

check the pinned message

[wild patio]

i'm afraid it hasn't been updated yet, can you please tell me if it does or not?

[burnt sandal]

it hasn't been updated because the deep dives have not been reset yet

[wild patio]

Oh yeah

for some reason i thought it was thursday

[burnt sandal]

I mean, it is here, but it's 4am

[cold oriole]

if I run through a regular deep dive would I get rewards for doing the elite deepdive?

[slate wagon]

no?

you have to do the EDD to get EDD rewards

if you beat the first mission you can get a blank core still, it's not an all or nothing

[queen rampart]

Both will gave you like 6 cores

3 for normal deep dive
3 for elite deep dive

Rewards: A blank core, A random weapons core, and a cosmetic core.

[outer magnet]

What time does the deep dives reset every week?

[jolly pumice]

Roughly 5 hours from now.

It says it on the deep dive terminal

[sly kettle]

Soon™

[shell patio]

Hopefully no Escort mission.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[night sparrow]

Triple sab plz

[wet sentinel]

no more mactera plague pls

and absolutely NO exploder infestation

[sly kettle]

So soon.

[steel python]

Dives in five minutes, people!
Let's get these missions rolling!

Finish your beers, check your gear, and let's go!

[sly kettle]

So very soon.

[heavy mulch]

Max length point extraction low o2 incoming 😏

[little hazel]

dont say that

[nova hearth]

mactera plague sabo

[heavy mulch]

shield disruption sabo

[sly kettle]

Good luck!

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Naked Land
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | No Mutators
Stage 3: Escort the Drilldozer + 150 Morkite | Swarmageddon

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Forsaken Breach
Stage 1: Refine Liquid Morkite + 2 Eggs | Low Oxygen
Stage 2: 3 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Shield Disruption
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Classic + Twins) + Black Box | No Mutators

[heavy mulch]

Eggs again?

[zenith ember]

O2 refining >.>

[little hazel]

yay pain

[sly kettle]

Woohooo

[wet sentinel]

love on site refining

oh it's on hollow bough...

[nova hearth]

EDD stage 2: 3 mules, 1 dreadnought, shield disruption

[sly kettle]

Shield disruption in the hollow bough!

[steel python]

Salvage 2 Mules and 2 Eggs

Deep Dive

No Mutators

[nova hearth]

dreadnought is hiveguard

[rugged portal]

is it fixed?

[summer sinew]

Annnd another egg week

great

[young yew]

I like eggs

And beez

[fleet stream]

hollow cordonbleugh noooooo

[rugged portal]

oh god i just notice low oxygen liquid mork

[steel python]

Escort Molly
Mine 150 Morkite

Swarmergeddon

[nova hearth]

EDD Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts, 1 Black Box

[steel python]

I DONT WANT TO GET MAULED

[nova hearth]

first dread is glyphid dreadnought

[quiet mortar]

Don't worry, am watching you're stream now :)

You're cracked btw, that Dread kill was nuts

[nova hearth]

zomg!! thanks!!

[olive flicker]

Looks like a fun edd to solo.

[rugged portal]

low oxygen liquid morkite

😭

[olive flicker]

And it's first mission so you're going to want to really conserve nitra.

[fervent kite]

Should I use the lok1 for deep dives?

[burnt sandal]

sure

[fervent kite]

I was thinking about using stubby though

Stubby and shard diffractor

[burnt sandal]

good pick too

hard to god wrong with any of engi weapon to be fair 😄

[fervent kite]

True

[burnt sandal]

they're usually decent at everything (except the PGL, which focuses on AoE outside of HP)

[fervent kite]

Couldn’t you use it with hyper propellent?

As well as the other upgrades

[steel python]

AAAAAAA I DISCONNECTE IN THE POD DURING STAGE 3 😭

[burnt sandal]

oh you can, I'm just saying that the other secondaries can do anything regardless of the build, while the PGL can't

[fervent kite]

Yeah

[fervent kite]

Dang

[steel python]

Honestly though, this week's DD is pretty chill

[scarlet ravine]

wow that arbalest obliterated me, full to nothing instantly

[steel python]

Though I have to recommend not having a gunner

The cave generation in it is pretty damn wacky

That you can't even get a zipline in right

[round forum]

Refine Liquid + Hollow Bough + Low Oxygen... bruh

[steel python]

This includes those awkward shelves and tiny crevices

[rugged portal]

just because gunner can't use his zipline effectively doesn't mean all his value is lost

[steel python]

Having two engineers made swarmergeddon a breeze

[young yew]

Regarding the EDD, seems like past weeks' playtime is OVER

[rugged portal]

3 blackbox fr

[young yew]

Only blackbeards after this point

[rugged portal]

and stage 2 with mactera

[steel python]

True, but the dive overall was pretty harmless.

No detonator spawns.

Only had wardens, menace, oppressor, and grabbers

Uplink and fuel cells have nice spawns and dotty's path has a lot of oil shale that refueling barely took five minutes

Since I played scout, I HIGHLY recommend taking the stun sweeper

Because jellies and swarmers are nonstop

Speaking of bug spawns, are huuli hoarders seeded too?

[fervent kite]

Btw what is this weeks dd?

[steel python]

Check the pinned comment

[rugged portal]

hoarder spawn with cave generation too so

[scarlet ravine]

why does Hollow Bough always seem to generate nightmarish EDDs?

[steel python]

Because stabbing your dwarf isn't enough

It wants to stab you in real life too

[scarlet ravine]

come at me, Brough

[steel python]

Then I can happily confirm to all Deep Divers that a huuli hoarder spawns in stage 2 near the drop pod :)

Have fun everyone

[fervent kite]

When does the dd reset?

[steel python]

Next week

[scarlet ravine]

it just did

[fervent kite]

Thursday what time

I know Thursday

[steel python]

Whatever time it is now, but an hour earlier

[scarlet ravine]

6am EST on Thursdays

[fervent kite]

Ok thx

[scarlet ravine]

the deep dive terminal also has a countdown to reset

[steel python]

It felt so nice to contribute to the Deep Dive exploration today

[stone yacht]

EDD:
Low Oxygen....on Liquid Morkite
And then Shield Disruption with Hiveguard.

Yikes lmaooo.

[olive flicker]

From mactera ptsd to o2 ptsd.

[stone yacht]

Atleast run Veteran Depositor if ur gonna have to be close to the refinery for damage reduction.

Especially stacks well if ur running Gunner Thunderhead mod where you get 50% damage reduction from firing it.

So 80% stack damage reduction. 🤔
Could be useful during Hiveguard on Shield Disruption too.

Would run it with anyone later.

[blissful ravine]

I'm on DD1 and cannot find enough morkite. I've checked starting cave and two other caves, got both eggs but 210/250 morkite. Any tips?
EDIT: Solved, there are three caves (four with starting one), the last dirt patch is just sneaky

[zenith ember]

With dark morkite you only need to reach the 2nd part to get enough, but will be tight on nitra

[queen rampart]

Let see what are we up against to

Ok.Mushrom Kingdom
Refined frist + 2 eggs? NO O2!
Simple enough
Stage 2 is gonna be challenge

Keep your friend close

Stage 3: Normal?

Tuyệt vời

[modern coyote]

sorry if it's been asked before : i just did the EDD and it was the same as last week. It appears that the new EDD is in hollow bough (it now shows as such in my terminal). Can i run the new one and get the rewards again ?

[grim wadi]

yep

[modern coyote]

sweet, thanks

[queen rampart]

Alright

It's on!

[rancid lance]

I know this probably isn't the right chat, but I havent promoted and unlocked the forge yet, If I do the event assignment and get the matrix cores, do I keep them or do I simply not get them because I don't have the force unlocked?

[queen rampart]

They stay on the forge until you promoted a character

[rancid lance]

Awesome, thank you very much

[sand tiger]

How long does Legacy last?

[burnt sandal]

as long as the anniversary event

[coarse wharf]

this is pretty crazy, I played EDD with a host on close proximity, it was fine in stage 1, but got super laggy in stage 2. Had to quit out, and my game broke completely

I had to use task manager to close it, and I tried launching the game again, but it can't load

[stone yacht]

What's legacy?

[coarse wharf]

1.0 build of DRG from 2018

[acoustic oriole]

hey guys im pretty new - are the deep dives a weekly reward?

[stone yacht]

Ohhhh

[coarse wharf]

when you launch DRG for the first-time on Steam after the update, it will show you several launch options

[coarse wharf]

yes

[stone yacht]

I see. I forgot they mentioned that mode.

Do you still get any XP and so on on ur regular account if u play legacy?

[coarse wharf]

not sure

haven't tried it yet

[stone yacht]

How long is the anniversary event?

[coarse wharf]

just trying to launch DRG again after it completely broke from playing EDD with a host on a crap connection

even after restarting my PC, the game refuses to load

[burnt sandal]

no

[hazy fjord]

thank you

[burnt sandal]

2 weeks

[burnt sandal]

#bug-discussion

[stone yacht]

Ty

[rugged portal]

this week dd and edd turn out to be pretty chill

we have like 2-3 resup left at the end of stage 3 edd

[wild patio]

no mactera plague?

[coarse wharf]

i hope to finish soon... just have to fix my game zzzzzz (following #bug-discussion suggestions)

[pine crater]

I finished my first deep dive and elite deep dive. If I do it again right after it, do I again get an overclock? if yes, do I got the same or a different random one?

[coarse wharf]

no, they are weeklies

you still have weekly core hunt and dwarf promotions to chew through if you want to

[lone monolith]

for future reference dont c4 your whole team on the last timer on EDD stage 2 lmao
RIP

it was an event

[low citrus]

Does anyone know how the Bullet Hell overclock works with the Shaped Bullets upgrade?

does it bounce off target 1, then penetrate target 2 & 3?
does it penetrate target 1 and 2, then bounce off target 3?
does the overclock override the upgrade and nullify it?

I don't want to waste an upgrade slot for the EDD

[burnt sandal]

on which gun ?

[untold saddle]

https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/"Lead_Storm"_Powered_Minigun#Bullet_Hell

If you're talking about bullet hell + blowthrough

[burnt sandal]

don't seem they are tho, which is why I'm asking

[low citrus]

it's the minigun

[burnt sandal]

then read what Repper linked

I was confused because Shaped Bullets is not an upgrade for the minigun

[untold saddle]

Same

[coral pond]

isn't bullet hell only on leadstorm?

[burnt sandal]

yeah but it wouldn't be the first time people say bullet hell when thinking of another OC

[stone yacht]

So I just got Spinning Hell for Breach Cutter when I promoted my Gunner (thought with the promotion fix they would lock the overclock to the class). Anyways, I heard it's really good for AoE. So excited to try it.

In other news, just tried the EDD. We were at the last part of stage 2, defending the refueling, before everyone died.

I literally took Iron Will and Resupplier to rez myself. And even rezed two teammates yet the scout had the audacity to yell at me for not rezing him first when he's so out of the way.

Secondly, someone took...3 resupplies from 1 pod. That same person had the audacity several fights later to ask why I'm not using shield. Hmm, maybe because I don't have charges -_-

Anyways R.I.P.

What a failed attempt.

[coral pond]

spinning death i wouldn't really call an aoe thing, since it's aoe is just tied to right where it's at. it's got some funny strats to it and some people have called em blender engi. And that's some bad players you dealt with there

[stone yacht]

I heard it's really good as a AoE overclock when u pair it with the stun and plasma trail mods. Because well the beam width is so extended. And the projectile lifetime is ofc longer.

[woeful niche]

it’s mainly good for area denial

like getting a revive off or something

[quiet lark]

EDD done, ended up doing gunner solo

pretty chill this week, stage 2 is probably the worst part but very manageable

[dense lion]

stage 3 of the deep dive is actually a great opportunity to get the drill-by shooting achievement if you don’t have it yet

[stone yacht]

Grats. I tried it earlier but my team screwed up the end of stage 2 😭😭

Who takes 3 supplies from 1 pod

[lament coral]

this weeks edd is great fun

[past knoll]

rock and stone

[stone yacht]

Tried and failed twice again.

2nd try:

During defense again. I defended the point well. And got 400 kills haha. And our team would have had like 400 nitra going into last level.

Took turret shock (always forget the name of the overclock) and Spinning Hell again. So all AoE and did pretty well. But my team were all down and I used iron will into Resupplier to Rez self and I used spinning hell to get rid of most crowds but nobody wasn't in the upload zone so despite rezing team we failed.

[quiet lark]

Honestly, sounds like you have a pretty good handle over what to do

Might just want to give it a solo attempt or two

[stone yacht]

3rd try:

Two members kept taking other members resupplies so had no ammo for EPC during refueling

Then Gunner dug resupply in ground so when I used Iron Will, couldn't figure out which side had it and once I did, even with Resupplier mod, couldn't get it in time.

🙃🙃

Was not worth staying up for these two extra attempts. Jesus Christ

Idk why u wouldn't take iron will for deep dive and also...why people keep taking others resupplies without permission....

[stone yacht]

Could be worth it but I like playing with others. I'm so pissed rn tho 🙄

[modern phoenix]

once had a scout that used up an entire resupply pod (yes, four resupply slots) for themselves in one basic swarm in haz 3. I guess they used one weapon and resupped that 50% constantly?

[stone yacht]

😩

Welp I give up on the EDD. Not worth the pain. It's not even as bad as last week's but idk what my random teams are doing...

Maybe I should solo but I really prefer multiplayer

I'm not even a 'good' player. I just try to position well. Why am I the only one who takes iron will, doesn't double dip and self-rez to rez others. Literally always the last one standing every run. I hate the frantic trying to save the team during swarms pressure :/

[fringe thistle]

@stone yacht I'ma be real with you, I think you're just getting shit teammates. You sound like you know what you're doing and just need a competent team

If somebody gets pissed at not being rezzed first, they should pay attention to the battlefield first

Like

"If there's a giant swarm on your dead body, I ain't rezzing you without assurance of my own survival my guy"

Otherwise that's TWO dead dwarves and zero profit

But anyways, yeah you got a good AOE build going there. Lots of repositioning needed, but it sounds like you're used to it so gg

[queen rampart]

Try #lfg-steam

I maybe available on weekends

I help if i could

[olive flicker]

I run berserk on every class to preserve more ammo (plus I just really like it) + dash or tame. Dash is incredibly powerful at keeping you alive to begin with, in which case you don't need iron will.

I guess you could be running dash too 🤔

[zenith ember]

hard to sub out iron will for something in pubs honestly

shit goes down fast

[woeful niche]

i wud rather take field medic over iron will in pubs 90% of the time

once had 20 revives on an edd without fm and trust me that iron will did not help whatsoever

[zenith ember]

its hard to tell, iw prob helps more on gunner over fm

but yeah its always a contest of dash vs iw vs fm

[rugged portal]

iw clutch is much rarer than fm clutch in my experience

gunner is definitely the class to run iw

dash is too good to pass up unless you're scout

[olive flicker]

Oh right I don't have dash on scout.

[worthy iron]

I did the edd yesterday, my team and I took iron will and it helped very much

[deft holly]

i run iw and vampire on every class

for funy

[worthy iron]

It's basically +1 to team lives

[deft holly]

^^

iw and power attack a grunt = extra life

not always the most efficient but im bad so i need a crutch

[worthy iron]

In my opinion vampire is must have on driller

It was an interesting situation. I joined lvl 234 scout to do a dd, bronze 1 gunner with lvl 32, and in the last moment the scout changed dd to edd. And we 3 did it on the first try!

[dusk urchin]

just discovered today that the refuel pod can clip into the locator box in what was originally my brilliant idea to move the refuel pod a little lower to the ground.
instead causing a nightmare headache that had my team digging a hole repeatedly trying to get one of the two to sink a little lower so we could have some hope of finishing the dive.

[olive flicker]

I recently learnt that if you press X (call back) while Bosco is carrying an item he will sometimes throw it to you instead of just dropping it.

No clue why he only does it sometimes though.

[worthy iron]

If you are close to him, he'll throw it to you

[dense lion]

I did the exact same thing, had to make a mini bunker to get things working again

thank karl for sticky flame overclock

it’s the only reason we survived

[alpine cape]

stage 2 of the elite deep dive is a raid

[worthy iron]

What do you mean by raid?

Stage 2 is always the hardest

[rugged vortex]

I always have at least one perk that boosts health gain, Vampire for driller and CQC builds on other classes, ressupplier on builds that take a lotta ammo and scout, and sweet tooth on anything else

[rugged vortex]

^

[hushed sequoia]

he throws to you within 10m

[stone yacht]

Yeah Turret EM Discharge really requires good positioning. I look around and really contemplate where I wanna place my two turrets and where I'll stand for survivability in between both.

Also I was a bit surprised how much damage spinning death does to the hivemind since he was just standing in it.

But yeah I was just peeved last night because I wanted to finish it before work 😅. But had 3 failed runs that were 40 mins each.

[stone yacht]

Would be appreciated if I don't beat it tonight

[fringe thistle]

Yeah it can be really disheartening when you continuously fail at the EDDs, I get it

I literally did that on the one this last week

[stone yacht]

Yeah my other skill is always Dash.

I only do Iron Will + Field Medic on Scout. Since Dash isn't needed on Scout.

[fringe thistle]

Yeah

I love dash, and iron will becomes almost a necessity on haz 5. Or field medic if you trust that you'll be able to stay alive

[stone yacht]

I can definitely see the importance of Field Medic.

And I don't think people needed Iron Will for regular missions

But because it resets per mission in Deep Dives, I just think it's needed in PUBS.

I usually take the health perks (such as Resupplier and Red Sugar) and during a defense I always leave my resupply and always position myself to die near the pod. So I can Ironwill, Resupply Rez, Rez teammate.

It's saved me Deep Dives in the past.

But yeah last night was a mess idk what happened in my team's. I thought the players who promoted like 2000 times would be so good but then they are going around taking others resupplies and dying constantly 😩

[stone yacht]

For me it's consistently Resupplier + Sweet Tooth and then the last is either Born Ready (especially on Gunner) or Thorns.

Vampire on Driller is the exception. Or the expanded bag on Scout.

Or I go Tank Gunner with Veteran Depositor and Environment Insulation (I know this isn't for general damage) while firing autocannon and coil gun with 50% defense mod. So it stacks to 80% defense while standing next to the mule.

This last build I literally last so long but it's niche.

[stone yacht]

Who do u main?

[rugged vortex]

Dash is so incredibly versatile, you can use it for lobbing grenades very far, closing the distance on an enemy, dashing out of danger, just moving around faster, it's great for almost anything

[stone yacht]

Dash is needed for Caretaker for sureee

[rugged vortex]

Problem with expanded bags on scout is that you can just make quick trips back to molly with your incredible mobility

[young yew]

One thing that iffs me with em discharge, turret arc et al is that they don't have anything in store for Hawkeye

[rugged vortex]

It's still not bad, you can make less trips but may be less useful than something that can save you in a pinch, like taking 2 of these health perks

[young yew]

Like it's just, oh your own fault for running Hawkeye, yeah have fun getting only half the benefit (or none at all in case of arc)

[fringe thistle]

Engineer ATM, although I'm slowly learning and loving scout.

[rugged vortex]

Well arc does have a tiny benefit on 1 turret but it's literally just a little bit of electrocute around the turret so it's very very situational

[stone yacht]

Oh I don't take Hawkeye but I heard it's pretty good

[rugged vortex]

Hawkeye is a bit underestimated, serves more of a spotting role for me

[fringe thistle]

Hawkeye is an early warning system for bugs

[young yew]

A lot of ppl are hardcore 2 turret defender bois, but I like HE more

[fringe thistle]

I prefer the utility of just having one turret and slowly drawing out the ammo, but running two turrets is fine too

There are benefits and drawbacks to both playstyles

[rugged vortex]

Defender is as the name implies for defense situations when you know where the bugs gonna be coming from, but for generic situations hawkeye can be more versatile

[stone yacht]

Ah this is honestly such a good point. I'm just a lazy Scout 😅😅.

[rugged vortex]

That's fair lol

[olive flicker]

I just mindlessly run veteran depositor and thorns on every class. Never really felt the need to change it yet.

[magic spoke]

Same

Begging for a perk rework soon

I know they said it's not a priority but I would really like a bigger system

[olive flicker]

Can't even remember what I run for third lol

[rugged vortex]

I just hate having hundreds of perk points being there for nothing

[olive flicker]

I know I have bigger bags on scout.

[rugged portal]

defender damage is pretty much a must if you want turret to be useful in higher haz at all outside of swarmer/naenocyte killing or turret whip

you can get similar effect of hawkeye by just placing turret in different directions

there will be blind spot but more often than not you csn mitigate it

[rugged vortex]

hawkeye turrets can also stun and armor break, like i said utility is the name of the game here

[pliant yoke]

Essentially giving up damage for something else

[rugged portal]

yeah but the thing is

[pliant yoke]

Which by itself is not a bad thing, but when it matters, you will likely notice it lacking

[rugged portal]

the damage is almost double and it can still do most thing anyway

[rugged vortex]

also much longer range, quick target acquisition (really good against small bugs and bots) and priority targeting

[rugged portal]

priority targeting only matter if you use turret whip

[rugged vortex]

who needs more damage if your other weapons can do the job? I'm not saying it's worse or something, hawkeye is still probably slightly subpar but the benefits are many

[rugged portal]

thing is most benefit are also on defender anyway and realistically if you have a semi competent scout and not being on hollow bough you don't need a whole turret to spot glyphid from half the map away

[rugged vortex]

true, but with randoms that isn't a guarantee even on Haz5

and I usually play with randoms

[rugged portal]

I literally play exclusively on haz 5 with random

even edd from time to time

unless it the classic "my little brother is the one playing" they usually do their job decently

[rugged vortex]

maybe i just get worse luck

[rugged portal]

it happens

but again, imo defender is just too good to pass up

until mk2 get buffed I don't think there are good use for hawkeye

[rugged vortex]

you can have that opinion, nothing i can do to stop you

still gonna use hawkeye to stun and sweep menaces with hyperprop, and i will enjoy it

[stone yacht]

Gunner for me (love Lead Storm overclock minigun or SALVO MODULE 😍 rocket launcher) paired with Hellfire Coilgun. Can't put down this secondary.

Driller my secondary. I love sludge pump the most.

Also sidenote: am I the only one who prefers Ice Storm overclock over Face Melter? I feel like if you take Cold Radiance and instant windup time, it handles crowds better and shreds them...and with fast windup u can just focus jump in, instantly freeze everything but 'tap fire' focus certain targets and save so much ammo. I'm never out.

But seems like Ice Storm is so disliked

Finally beat the EDD on 4th try. Funny that I got the same maxed promotion Engineer last night from my failed runs, who despite his experience, would steal everyone's resupply but then die first 😩

Anyways this run was literally by far my worse performance run out of the 3 prior runs. Like those runs I did really good despite the failure of the missions.

But this time...christ...I've never died that many times during any mission in general, than I did during Stage 2. Idk what happened this time but everything spawned next to me. Died so many times to random acid spitters or the smaller detonators.

Stage 3 was so easy tho. Easiest of the 3. Barely anything spawned during the black box I swear to god lolol.

Sigh...ofc it gave me Chain-Hit revolver....ugh 😭

[pliant yoke]

On the positive note

You don’t have to worry about getting it with the next overclocks

Also, I received Chain Hit yesterday, too

[queen rampart]

You complete edd?

[stone yacht]

Yus. Would still run it with u tho if u want.

[coral pond]

I hear more face melter slander than ice storm, ice storm mostly has positive comments towards it

[stone yacht]

🤔🤔what negatives do people say about face melter? Thought it was agreed that it's significantly better than ice storm by the community. Which I didn't understand personally. Not saying it's bad but just think ice storm is more 'managable" when dealing with crowds

[woeful niche]

you can build face melter to be alot more ammo efficient against crowds, while ice storm is better against large targets for obvous reasons

i personally find both pretty meh

although they are fun

[coral pond]

Mostly when comparing it to sticky fuel, and i've seen some say ice storm is just a better face melter tho idr the reason(s) why

[stone yacht]

Ah I see

[stone yacht]

Also something that wasn't clear to me is that the additional bonus damage that is granted on frozen targets from the overclock. Is it only granted through continuously firing the cryo on said large target or it still apply to other weapons (as in. You still get more than the base frozen damage bonus from snowstorm while firing a secondary).

I assume not. But eh I still burst large targets when frozen instantly from snowstorm bonus so.

[woeful niche]

i don’t get what ur asking. The overclock just means ice storm itself does bonus dmg to frozen enemies, cus the base gun does not

[next briar]

Deep rock seriously needs to invest in some better equipment

Starts spamming V

[queen rampart]

I think you already fall asleep at that time

Review on edd

[quiet lark]

Other way around I think, gunner should be carrying fm while the other classes carry iw since gunner is likely to go down last and be rezzed first in an emergency

[woeful niche]

ye but he can also just throw a shield

[quiet lark]

Kind of? Like yes, but also fm helps you get more out of your shield and you don’t always have it

Especially if multiple people are dead close together, fm helps you get them up before the shield expires

[stone yacht]

Ohh. I thought there was a base damage bonus before they were frozen and once frozen it's an even larger bonus (than base frozen bonus).

Hence my question of:
Does the buff to bonus frozen damage from snowstorm still apply when firing other weapons other than cryo.

Dumb question and I knew it likely wasn't the case but thought I would still ask.

No matter. As I said before, cold radiance mod plus insta start up makes helps u to save ammo. U just jump into a crowd and shred

[queen rampart]

Still waiting for the review

[woeful niche]

on what

[queen rampart]

On EDD

[woeful niche]

look in pinned messages

[queen rampart]

?

[woeful niche]

by review, do u mean what the objectives are for the deep dives?

[queen rampart]

I'm mean gameplay not the Objective

[woeful niche]

oh, it’s not that bad

[stone yacht]

Stage 3 is fine. Probably the easiest of the 3. I also think this EDD have a lot of nitra to spare.

But my god Stage 2...during refueling and no armor...bring a lot of AoE. It's a nightmare with dumb teammates who do shit like bury your resupply so you can't iron will into resupplier perk self-rez yourself.

Watch out for random acid spitters. So many spawned next to me during that 4th run we won.

Also watch out for those small detonators (whatever they are called) that sneak up behind you. So many on stage 2 🙄

Man I had so many ass teams last night.

[queen rampart]

Look like i got busy on scout this week

Nevermind go with Driller