deep-dive-discussion

[woeful niche]

most ppl don’t get even get all the cosmetic cores

i much prefer them just adding new cosmetics in the pass like they are doing now

[quick compass]

well yeah, those cosmetics get added to the regular pool as well after season ends too, which is nice that it doesnt just go away forever lol

[woeful niche]

yes, it’s a pretty decent system. My main problem however is that cargo crates are becoming very bloated compared to everything else. Putting all frames in crates means it takes wayyyy too long for new players to get all the frames then most other forms of getting cosmetics

cosmetic cores also take awhile, but that’s only cus you can only get a certain amount per week. Cargo crates take an insane amount of game time to collect everything, even with above average luck

[quick compass]

Could be cool if once you have all the cosmetic from cores the rest are added to it

[short haven]

There's probably hundreds of things in the pool for cargo crates right? Maybe even in the thousands? If so, that means even if you got a cargo crate for every single mission you played until you got everything, it would still take a long time

[quick compass]

Crates are weapons frame works and poses. Scavenged gear is pick axe’s and colors. And other weapon related stuff is from cores (theres also a bosco skin in crates, makes him a barrel)

[woeful niche]

you collect pickaxe parts for every class. You unlock weapon frames for each individual class

[quick compass]

Yup

[fathom hazel]

You unlock victory poses for individual classes too😔

[quick compass]

Pick axes are the only universal thing (thank karl)

Imagine unlocking each different pick part for each class individually

[short haven]

Wiki says that on average it would take 936 missions to "obtain all 156 skins and victory poses", so I assume that includes duplicates for dwarves

There's also 36 armor paintjobs and 53 pickaxe customization pieces, and 1 bosco paintjob for lost pack, making 90 things total in the lost pack if I'm correct

[quick compass]

Armor paint jobs are not universal

[short haven]

as for weapon/cosmetic cores I have no idea how many there are and Im now too lazy to check

[short haven]

I am aware. Wiki says 36 armor paintjobs, 9 for each dwarf

[quick compass]

Oh i see

[short haven]

But all in all even if you had the best luck possible it would take you a minimum of 156 missions to collect everything from cargo crates and lost packs

As for cores, that's just dependent on weekly stuff. I've noticed the weekly core hunt assignments reactivate several times during the week so I end up with more than 3 blank cores per week

Not sure if it's some bug or because I have less stuff but the timer for weekly core hunt still shows the weekly timer, it just randomly re-enables again so I can do it again

[severe tusk]

That is fairly new (like 4-5 months?), every time you promote now it resets the Weekly Core Hunt.

[short haven]

ohhhh, thats what that is?

I see

that's why its been resetting

[severe tusk]

Yeah, probably not intended, but I think it is a good thing for newer players trying to get weapon OCs unlocked.

I figure they would have patched it out by now if they cared to.

[short haven]

still though, could say assuming you complete both dds and do the weekly core hunt a couple times you could get up to 10 cores total per week, and I assume there's probably hundreds of stuff for cores, meaning even if you play every week it's gonna take you a long time to get everything

ok just did a quick google search instead of looking at the wiki and as of a steam community post as of december 2021, there were a total of 430 cores, and probably more now. If you were to somehow get 10 cores every week, it'd still take 43 weeks to get all of that, which is just over 2 months shy of a year

[quick compass]

Promo’s reset it

[short haven]

I suppose there's also the forge bonus of 1 extra core every 5 cores forged, but that would still add up to a lot of time

[short haven]

Yep, Ryan mentioned above

[quick compass]

Oh wait someome already mentioned it my bad

But yeah. 11 forges total a week (outside of promo reset). 7 weapon and 4 cosmetic. Its gonna be a while before i see burning hell with my awful luck i reckon

[short haven]

Currently I'm just going for any Gunner OCs that I see, then my priority goes with Scout>Engie>Driller

Driller is my least favorite class to play, so I prioritize him the least

[quick compass]

For me its gunner-driller-engi-scout

Nothing makes me happier than having my drills take me to max health when im running cryo

[short haven]

I only ever play Driller on Escort or Refinery missions if I'm not just trying to level him up, other 3 I don't mind playing on any mission

[quick compass]

May i ask why

[short haven]

Weapons just don't really feel that powerful to me, though to be fair I only use his default weapons atm cause it's all I got upgrades for

Flamethrower is nice against crowds but against bigger targets like praetorians or oppressors it just feels like such a slog

[quick compass]

I usually run sticky flame, super ammo efficient and then secondary for either epc mining or getting rid of those pesky praetorians and flying bugs

[short haven]

I honestly just like the instant feedback of damage with the other classes so much more, and I can actually deal with bigger targets much easier and faster, so it's less about me disliking Driller specifically and more about me just liking the other 3 because they fit my playstyle

I could maybe see Sludge pump being something I use on driller if I eventually put some credits into upgrading it

[quick compass]

Thats fair. Ive met some peeps that dont like driller simply because they loke the bugs to die instantly. To that i say, sludge cannon or cryo. Cryo makes all damage 3x, so freezing then switching to drills or secondary(bonus points for fire secondary for that temp shock)

[short haven]

I'm also just a sucker for miniguns in games, which is why I main Gunner

[quick compass]

Yeah the leadstorm has been such a hoot in deep dives for me. Really cant wait to get burning hell

[short haven]

Might be something I experiment with when I get it, currently I use Oomph for my normal main builds and Lead Storm if I'm doing an elim mission, for that extra damage on dreads. Might also be something I try with escort missions actually since I constantly use ziplines on that for mobility

[quick compass]

Watch it be the last oc i unlock lol

[short haven]

true pain, like being 4999 out of 5000 on xp

[quick compass]

I find that the leadstorm oc is super good over all even more so than oomph due to me already bunny hopping with gunner cause all his weapons slow him down. At that point i take blowthrough for hoards and not blowthrough for elims. But that makes very little difference on elims so i just take blow-through all the time.

Only downside to leadstorm is literally just the movement, which doesnt affect me at all.

[short haven]

Yeah the movement part is why I bring it specifically for elim missions though, typically I jump to the weakpoint and dont move so it doesnt affect me, and on escort you can just use ziplines over heartstone to negate the downside

but otherwise I do usually stay on the ground when using the minigun. Plus the faster spinup time for oomph is nice, instant firing

[quick compass]

Well the movement penalty is negated when bunny hopping which all gunners do already due to movement speed reduction on all guns while firing

Which makes the leadstorm the best upgrade to damage since its literally free while giving 33% base damage bonus making up a total 25% of your damage when the upgrade is on

[short haven]

See i would do that as well but I also want to keep moving when I land on the ground, and I dont want to unrev my gun and then rev it up again to jump again

I'm too lazy for that

[quick compass]

It doesnt rev down fast enough to unrev at all between bunny hops

[short haven]

I dunno, just doesn't fit how I play I guess 🤷‍♂️

[quick compass]

Fair enough. Doesnt matter how efficient a build is if it doesnt match your play style to fully utilize it. Its why i dont like the leadstorm for brt7.

[short haven]

I just dont like the BRT7 cause it feels like I'm shooting nerf darts with it lol

Bulldog's got that power to it that makes it really satisfying to shoot

[quick compass]

The brt’s power is there, it literally melts faster than bulldog. It just goes down in ammo too fast for my liking.

Feel super bad to me so i rarely use it

[short haven]

Well I guess another reason why I like using some guns over others is just because of how satisfying they feel and sound to use

BRT compared to Bulldog feels horrible

[quick compass]

Thats a big thing for me too. Bulldog just has that crunch to it

[woeful niche]

brt has great dps and guranteed stun

so me like

[short haven]

I've actually been using a Doom sound mod for the GK2 which makes it sound so much more satisfying to use, sound design for weapons is a very important thing for me

Also the default sound for the boomstick sounds weak af, so I of course have a super shotgun sound mod from Doom Eternal as well

makes it a thousand times more satisfying to land meatshots on Preatorians

[woeful niche]

i think boomstick sounds pretty meaty

[short haven]

I honestly don't agree. To me it sounds comparable to the Subata, just only slightly more powerful. Even still, Doom Eternal super shotgun sounds like it packs a way bigger bunch

Like, even the Warthog for engie sounds more powerful than the Boomstick's default sound

[severe tusk]

Pretty easy EDD. Stage 2 was mildly annoying.

The real fun of Driller is using Thin Containment Field EPC, but it takes a while to learn to use it properly.

[quick compass]

Yeah just a bit of muscle memory. But being the class made for crowd management he has fantastic tools for it.

[dense escarp]

you could just us the ammo OC

it also doesn't neuter raw damage either

tho im probably gonna end up running micro fletchlettes when i get it

i love minishells

[ebon cove]

The coilgun is pretty good as well

Even if it lacks the raw dps

[vagrant silo]

micro flechettes is really bad

like your total damage just drops off a cliff despite the increased ammo

lead spray with ammo and 3-burst gives you 36 damage which will oneshot grunts to the body

that's with taking the spread reduction in t1 to make it less painful

[timid elbow]

I just got lead spray for the BRT, it's pretty good. Harder to snipe stuff like hiveguard weakpoints at range but that's what the Hurricane is for I guess

[burnt sandal]

it won't, unless you run armor break

[quick compass]

Still doesnt have that ** C R U N C H**

Bulldog supremacy

[austere dust]

It reminds me of my favourite gun from Unreal Tournament.... goddamn, can’t remember thr name now... used to play that game on dialup with 350 ping, good times, lol

Shock rifle

[wraith flame]

Final stage of EDD entire team is down, two teammates use iron will at the same time then get confused on which one they will revive next only to both die without reviving anyone.

Smh

[cunning scaffold]

F

[charred spruce]

Painful, I am sorry to hear

[wraith flame]

Painful? Yes, Hilarious? Also yes. It was really confounding. First time I have ever seen the double iron will fail.

[charred spruce]

I have not seen an iron will fail

because I solo qwq

[coral pond]

I've seen a triple iron will. It was a good thing i didn't use mine too

[old widget]

it's even better when both dwarves who are down have some restraint, and don't fire it off immediately to see if someone else is going to...and then they both get impatient at the same time

[scenic jetty]

before succeeding this edd. We were all down until one IW and got gunner up. the gunner . . didn't place a shield nor tried revive and kept shooting till was swarmed :v

[marble token]

true gunner
shot until the last breath

[wraith flame]

Real gunner moves out here in hoxxes

[night island]

call me a nerd, but I just spent way too long figuring out that, if all classes had 36 ocs (ik in reality gunner and scout have more), the probability of getting a specific overclock after only earning 1 oc core and 1 blank core (ie from ur first deep dive if u done no breach core assignment), and then infusing the blank core, is 1 in 36.
Don't ask me why I did this, I got bored and I just did. the math may not even be correct, but I am pretty sure it is. so there ya go, 1 in 36 chance
EDITED to correct from 1/48 to 1/36

if every gun added adds 6 overclocks, then each season which adds a new primary/secondary for each character reduces the odds by adding 6 to the demoninator. so 1 in 42, 1 in 48 etc
EDITED to correct

[chrome patrol]

Need 1 for elite deep dive. My gt is Xaxhi

[fast stratus]

i got a value of 71/5148 (approx 0.0137), which is just over half of the 1/48 you got

and the quick script that i wrote in python to simulate this seems to confirm my value

[night island]

I'll double check my math gimme a sec

[fast stratus]

the statistic is rather pointless tho, because finding out what overclocks exist before ever getting one is quite detrimental to the enjoyment you get out of the game imo

[night island]

yeah ik, i've been trying to not notice them so far. only ones ik of are fat boy, special powder and the auto aim one

[night island]

so chance of getting the oc from oc infused core is 1 in 144.

chance of getting an oc for the same class, but not the one u want is 35/144.
for the blank core, assuming you always pick the class you want if it comes up, there is a 3/4 chance of getting your class. then there is a 1/35 chance of getting the oc you want. so overall 35/144 times 3/4 times 1/35 is = 1/192

chance of getting an oc for a different class is 108/144.
for the blank core, again assuming always pick the class u want, 3/4 chance of that class again. then a 1/36 chance of oc u want. so overall 108/144 times 3/4 times 1/36 is = 1/64

1/64+ 1/192+ 1/144 = 1/36

EDITED with correction: 3/4 chance to get class u want not 1/2

[night island]

would you mind showing the differences in how you worked it out?

[fast stratus]

ill move this to the dms

[marble token]

dont class have different amount of overclock
caus guns have different amount

[night island]

yup but to make it easier on myself I assumed VVV

oops no screenshots

well anyway in my original message I said assuming all have 36

36

[austere dust]

Don’t you also need to factor in the chance of the core infuser presenting you with cosmetic or weapon oc as the option for your chosen class, as if it presents you with cosmetic oc your chance of getting the weapon oc you desire now becomes 0

[torn kayak]

do I get double the oc or once obtained can never be obtained. I am asking this cuz I have two of the same oc for twin cannon for gunner. Had to double check if its a glitch but apparently its two of the same

effect

[severe tusk]

That shouldn't be a thing, no.

[wraith shard]

this was the first time I tried an EDD with my friends

it was a lobby of 3 of us

after a few attempts we got used to the first mission, nearly finished the second but a swarm spawned right before we got the final egg

we ended up dying near the end, but we did well for our first time attempting I think :)

[mossy osprey]

blankets and lake carried my ass

[tall meadow]

there's another blankets?

more blankets

nvm

I remember you

:))

You did pretty well for just coming into EDD

just gotta watch your shots in shield disrupt because they can reduce your friend's health into nothing with friendly fire haha

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411166438733381632/1072379044164812924/20230203104149_1.jpg

@mossy osprey found the screenshot of the EDD run you were in

Cheers and see you around more

[mossy osprey]

dam u take screenshots for every run or wad

[tall meadow]

nope only EDD's

[mossy osprey]

sick

[tall meadow]

I like to look at average time

[mossy osprey]

looking at the time

we did pretty well

dam

[tall meadow]

and set a bit of a challenge each time for myself to keep it more entertaining

so whether I am in a random or VC deep dive ,if I go pass like a certain duration, maybe 45mins or go down more than twice. I'll rerun another time and try to be better

it's for my own satisfaction anyways kek, gotta do something to keep myself playing

[tall meadow]

yup , I would say we did very well, it also helped the objectives this week was straightforward and more depositing items instead kek

[mossy osprey]

yah

shield disruption or oxygen on liquid morkite would be

yikers

[tall meadow]

would be more fun but definitely doable haha

[lunar rivet]

need 1 for a DD, gamertag is same as my Discord

[serene delta]

4 engi DD is fun

[hazy flax]

DD AFK

[burnt sandal]

?

[surreal kayak]

How difficult are solo edd runs?

[burnt sandal]

as difficult as doing a haz 5 solo

[surreal kayak]

trying to recall if I've tried to solo a haz5

Guess I'll start there lol

[burnt sandal]

good luck

[lethal terrace]

were rich

were were were rich were rich

[sacred prairie]

anyone wanna share where most of the morkite is on dd 2

i literally cannot be fucked to find it

since i forgot it was an objective

[austere dust]

The deepest part of the cave system has tons, keep going down

There was a lot more than needed to fulfil the objective

Oh wait DD2 as in regular?

Not EDD2

[sacred prairie]

dd1

dd2

but i already finished

ez

[charred spruce]

I am so used to haz 5 no oxy low O2 I would not be even startled but only slightly annoyed if I saw those mods on any DD/EDD stages

[long sequoia]

what are the modifiers for edd

oh nvm its in pin

holy crap backbreaker stout is carrying xd

[vague marten]

tried the Elite Deep Dive solo twice last night, died on my way to the first drop pod both times ;_;

[trail pivot]

Ayo sandblasted!

Might just start sherpa runs

Oh it's escort

[long sequoia]

bruh the edd was wayyy shorter than the normal dd

man backbreaker stout op

if only i had dark morkite on normal dd

[fleet mauve]

the edd is pure aids
shield disrupt? on magma core?
probably doesn't help that gunner's best primaries blow holes in the ground

[long sequoia]

as an engi main, i can say that i literally dont care xd

muahahaha

[fleet mauve]

our engi left 10 minutes into the first stage

[long sequoia]

oh dear

[carmine pulsar]

How easy is the DD solo? I know the 2nd stage is drilldozer elite threat

[zenith ember]

Thats the only problematic one if you get bulks on doretta

Other than that meh

[lone zodiac]

anyone about to do DD or EDD?

[queen rampart]

What's this week deep dive give us to?

[burnt sandal]

pinned message

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[fervent kite]

Idk what oc to use on stubby?

[burnt sandal]

it's up to preferences

[coral pond]

Em refire or em turret discharge are the best options

[fervent kite]

I was also looking at light weight rounds are they worth it?

[burnt sandal]

sure

[coral pond]

I personally don't see the value in that much ammo, especially if you already take the tier 1 ammo mod, but i guess it can be comfortable to have that extra net for resupplies(and so you might not have to resupply more than once or so)

[young yew]

I just use the clean one that bumps up the stats

Works well

Super slim rounds

Well oiled machine also sounds cool, I just don't have it yet

A lot of ppl like EM discharge, but I don't like fiddly stuff

[woeful patrol]

I prefer EM refire booster

[young yew]

Sounds really cool too. Not for me because of the increase in spread (I like sniping) but it must be so much fun and so effective at close and mid range

[woeful patrol]

You usually take the spread reduce mod with this OC so it has almost no downside

[young yew]

Makes sense

I'll try it when I get it

[woeful patrol]

May Rock and Stone be with you

[young yew]

Rock and Stone fellow engineering dwarf

[queen rampart]

Always

[long sequoia]

question: if you finish an edd you already finished before, do you get an empty core?

because apparently i have an empty core right out of the blue for some reason

[burnt sandal]

no

[long sequoia]

huh

welp im not going to look a gift horse in the mouth then

[solemn hollow]

oh thanks i never need to use reddit again

[woeful niche]

what spread reduce mod

[woeful patrol]

T2b I think

Or it's recoil, not spread

[coral pond]

32111 and 11111 are the best stubby setups for em refire afaik. 22222 just feels weak as shit

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[young vault]

there are like no open elite deep dives dang

[old widget]

few people run them at end of cycle

refreshes in hours

[hollow citrus]

I predict sabo, refinery and escort

the 3 longest mission types in one blockbuster run

[lean mantle]

Just got finished with my 1st EDD. No shields and then low o2 is stupid

Took us 2 attempts

[cobalt moat]

Industrial Sabotage lets goooo

[jolly obsidian]

April fools edd needs to be triple industrial sabo with low oxygen first, shield disruption second and elite threat third

[wraith shard]

Elite threat wouldn’t be so bad tbh. It’s lethal enemies that would be hell on earth

[thorny gull]

Make it 2 negative mutators per stage

[open current]

I just joined some public lobby and they got 6 dreadnoughts in a drilldozer mission wut

[brisk spear]

modded

[charred spruce]

New Deep Dives soon
What curses will it bring

[wraith shard]

double escort

[jolly obsidian]

Double escort low o2 sabotage in the middle

[zenith ember]

Will RNGesus bless the community with double sabo again

[fathom hazel]

Does low oxygen even spawn on sabo?

[coral pond]

Yes

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[sly kettle]

Soon™

[tiny night]

i still dont want it

[scarlet jewel]

Woe, sabotage be upon ye

[noble plover]

What exactly is a deep dive?

[untold saddle]

https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Deep_Dives

[fossil tulip]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/433058146517516298/1068118076098355200/d498b9279a6c386a214d00f50a53c9fc870b0e906eea1bd5135c59457d9f91bd_1.gif.gif

[hollow citrus]

it's almost time

double sabo here we go

[gusty grotto]

I hope the new EDD stages are

sabotage

sabotage

sabotage

[coral pond]

ok

[open warren]

2 minutes

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[grave narwhal]

Good luck, homies.

[sly kettle]

Good luck, y'all

[austere dust]

The throngs are mustered

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Pale Carve
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators
Stage 2: Refine Liquid Morkite + Classic Dreadnought | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: Collect Data Rack + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Morning Summit
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + Dreadnought Twins | No Mutators
Stage 2: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Rich Atmosphere Mactera Plague
Stage 3: Refine Liquid Morkite + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Exploder Infestation

[burnt sandal]

plz double escort

[austere dust]

Dotty with mini mules for company, cute

[sly kettle]

I rather not.

[coral pond]

edd: twins

[candid bobcat]

Elite Deep Dive "Morning Summit" (2023-02-09 to 2023-02-16)
Region: Crystalline Caverns
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + Twins
Stage 2: 2 Mini-mules + 2 Eggs | Mactera Plague + Rich Atmosphere
Stage 3: Refinery + Hiveguard | Exploder Infestation

[gusty grotto]

how you al;ready know them all?

[candid bobcat]

sandbox

[gusty grotto]

thats so lame

[burnt sandal]

?

[smoky linden]

why is that, he's providing us information

[burnt sandal]

"wow you're helping the community, that's so lame"

[coral pond]

moment

[burnt sandal]

some people really should take a moment to think before talking

[smoky linden]

thank you for the information @candid bobcat u're very helpful

[candid bobcat]

for those doing DDs, I hope u like sabotage

[quiet mortar]

Oh? Have we gotten Sabo again?

[candid bobcat]

Deep Dive "Pale Carve"
Region: Azure Weald
Stage 1: Escort Duty + 2 Mini-mules
Stage 2: Refinery + Classic Dreadnought | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: Industrial Sabotage + 150 Morkite | Low O2

[smoky linden]

oh boi been a while

low o2...

[novel breach]

thanks

[safe gulch]

Sabotage with low o2? Oh sod me

Time to spend all that extra nitra

[austere dust]

Low o2 sabo but it is only on regular dd, and yeah, last stage so should have plenty of nitra for o2 stations

[safe gulch]

Looks like a job for fatboi

[novel breach]

my favourite sabotage with low o2

[sly kettle]

And of course it had to be with Low Oxygen.

[coral pond]

fuckin huuli hoarder in edd stage 1 likes to hang around the dread egg, little shit

[burnt sandal]

you have your answer now

[gusty grotto]

I got no problem with people giving info to the community about the deep dives. But since it was done in a sandbox it just feels like a cheaty way to learn about it which is why I said it was lame

[burnt sandal]

who gives a damn about how the information is found exactly ?

[gusty grotto]

you may not but others might

it aint that big a deal anyways

[coral pond]

you seem to think it's a big deal

you're the only one i've ever seen complain about how it gets found out

[gusty grotto]

It really isnt, just never saw someone use a sandbox to gain the info

[burnt sandal]

I don't think anyone cares

😄

[gusty grotto]

Alrighty

Anyways this weeks EDD is fine

[austere dust]

Pretty sure this person does this every single week, the dd and edd info is always right here minutes after it drops

[gusty grotto]

Stage 2 can be a bit annoying since it was macteras

[burnt sandal]

Mactera plague on salvage 💀

get your cryo out

[gusty grotto]

Ive given info a few times for different weeks but not using sandbox

[gusty grotto]

gunner on my team autocannoned the shit out of the macteras to clear em

[burnt sandal]

lead burster would do great too

[sick lake]

🤓

[gusty grotto]

I was usin the good ol trusty hyperprop

[coral pond]

god mactera plague is just not fun

[hollow citrus]

I am a god damn psychic

[elfin rose]

Gotta ask, is the dd as long as it sounds?

[nimble ferry]

Did it in solo my first ever time with a slow gunner in like 1.5 hours.
2nd time went under 1 hr
People are able to do it easily in 10-15 min per mission after getting sone experience.

[plucky bane]

it's about 1 hour average I would say

[wraith flame]

The worst part is tri-jaws seemingly spawning out of nowhere or coming out of walls. It's just flying death coming at you from an angle you would never have guessed.

[coral pond]

it's always the trijaws

[burnt sandal]

fun fact : people already complain a lot about macteras spawning out of thin air, and for multiple reasons it's hard to create a spawn animation for them that would make sense, so the game resort to spawning them out of view/far away as much as possible.

Which often includes your dead angle.

[past bear]

Why don't they pop out from the ceiling like gunk seeds?

[burnt sandal]

could be awkward if they have to travel all the way down from a huge cave, because you would have all the time in the world to kill them before they're even a danger

[past bear]

Oh yeah, it's been a while for me with those kinds of caves being generated, but that's a fair point.

[wraith flame]

Okay, hear me out, I get that, but here are just some off the top solutions:

1. Create a fauna that grows whenever a mactera wave is spawned. This fauna is a spawn point that forces mactera to spawn in map. Could be like a honey comb thing.

2. Create new mactera that drops embryonic eggs whenever it dies. These eggs are invincible and pop in a few seconds spawning a number of mactera.

Just anything to stop them from phasing through walls, that is super nasty and doesn't seem fair when it happens.

[burnt sandal]

do you mean a flora rather than a fauna ?

also it requires a lot of work just to spawn enemies 😄

[wraith flame]

Hmm maybe, idk, too early for me lol. Yeah its a lot of work but the other option is one of the most deadly enemies in the game phasing through walls to kill you lol

[wraith flame]

Actually here me out, new thought, an alt breeder that spawns mactera, would be cool if it attacked too. Like this giant angry balloon.

[wraith shard]

No escort lfg

[woeful niche]

you say that like autocannon does well vs mactera

[gusty grotto]

A large swarm on them in close proximity to each other. Yes it does very well. Single target not so much

[woeful niche]

naw bro even a swarm itll barely hit. Also why in gods name wud you want to be in close proximity to mactera while firing ac

might as well whip out ur secondary instead of being slowed down by a gun that cant even hit them

[gusty grotto]

Salvage + mactera swarm, you dont have a choice to be close or far away

[woeful niche]

yes you do

mactera literally always fire the exact same distance away from u

distance is not a factor

[gusty grotto]

??? You telling me to just leave the triangulation zone

[burnt sandal]

you can leave safely as long as the bar doesn't hit 0

[woeful niche]

the only time they change their distance from you is on low gravity due to it affecting their trajectory

[gusty grotto]

I can leave the zone but id rather not since its salvage

[woeful niche]

minigun and hurricane are far better for mactera then ac. If you bring ac just use ur secondary

[gusty grotto]

• i did it with 4 people so when im tryna defend the fuel cell a whole swarm shows up and litters the area in the sky

[woeful niche]

snowball, pgl, hurricane, cryo nades, are pretty good for those

[gusty grotto]

It wouldve been better for gunner to pick a primary other than the autocannon but me and my team started the deep dive before anyone knew what the stages were

Still nonetheless a good run for going in blindly

[woeful niche]

pog

tfw i bring sticky fuel to the mactera plague

[gusty grotto]

Amazing team icl. If they are in here and see this you rock

[wraith flame]

Depending on your setup AC isnt too bad. Definitely not ideal for mactera but it will work

[radiant nymph]

wait, do you get full turret ammo if you go into the next stage with 0

[woeful niche]

it will work only against the thickest of swarms

keep in mind, we are talking about a weapon that can still miss (with its accuracy mod) at near point blank range

[wraith flame]

Well, it will be at its worst in open environments and at a distance. The rest it will be fine although again, not ideal. You will miss and have trouble hitting them dead on. Combat mobility and big bertha would prolly be some of the better set ups for them

[woeful niche]

again distance isnt that variable of a facor when mactera literally have a set distance they shoot you from

ye big bertha and combat mobility def do help

[wraith flame]

I mean if you can eliminate them before they get in range that would be a big factor. The AC would have trouble doing that and probably be the worst of the primaries when they even do get in range, to kill mactera.

I think we agree here anyways lol

[woeful niche]

hurricane is uber strong compared to ac in general but the matchup against mactera makes the difference comical. Hurricane gets stun and perfect accuracy. rip

[wraith flame]

Yeah hurricane is the single best gunner primary vs macteta. The stun and the weak point damage just melt the flying bugs.

[zenith ember]

The 2nd stage for EDD is rough man

[old widget]

Ammo for support tools (flares, turret ammo, C4, and shields) get refilled in between deep dive stages. It's a "bug".

[radiant nymph]

huh, cool

[old widget]

I've seen some cases where things can bug out, though. Like if gunner has 0 shields left at the end of a stage, he starts the next stage with 4 shields in his pocket, but his shield never does the return-and-recharge thing (because that requires you to have at least 1 ammo left), so he can't actually use any of those 4 shields until he grabs a resup

[azure apex]

What is the EDD line up like this week?

[old widget]

pinned messages has the deets. post is edited in place each week so timestamp looks old

[old widget]

areyouawizard.gif

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/1073283767306817707/20230209084521_1.jpg?width=1174&height=660

Simple EDD

[quiet lark]

fun EDD, my group ended up bunkering for the mactera plague which made the uplinks a cakewalk

[primal wigeon]

What's the new DD and EDD for this week? I r stuck at work pining for DRG

[primal wigeon]

oh... the timestamps threw me off

[charred spruce]

Got the EDD done solo

I am happy but also the 2nd stage was horrifying because the swarm of macteras and their lethality was a force to reckon with as a scout

[sly vapor]

"mercy from overwatch rescuing you with the text <cryo grenade> on top of her"

[charred spruce]

Crying grenade do be handy but when you have none it becomes very scuffed

Still, it was pretty fun. At least no low O2 or shield disrupt pressure

[brisk spear]

check pinned

[primal wigeon]

I did yes

[wraith shard]

wow, I just got the single cosmetic overclock I really wanted for the exact class I wanted it for from this week's deep dive

I'm quite happy with how that turned out!

[keen bay]

/imagine

imagine

[austere dust]

This ain’t Midjourney bro

[lofty parrot]

Why is it always low o2 sabo

[short haven]

At least it isnt low O2 refinery on last stage of edd

and on magma core on top of that

probably the worst combination possible imo aside from maybe Shield Disrup Sabo on last stage of EDD

and on magma core cause magma core is the worst map for that warning

[paper leaf]

Just completed the EDD that was exhausting

Probably my best performance ever as a green beard though, glad i didn’t let down the veteran players in my squad

[short haven]

I haven't played it yet, how would you describe the cave gen? Complex or fairly simple?

[paper leaf]

rather simple, although the second stage has some pretty gnarley ledges

[short haven]

I feel like it'll probably be fairly easy for me then, cave gen can make or break how difficult a mission is for me

[paper leaf]

the sheer amount of exploders throughout make it so that you constantly have to be on high alert though

if you can deal with that than it’s not too bad

[short haven]

Yeah no of course, always careful when exploders are around

[paper leaf]

Alright well good luck r&s

[scenic jetty]

DD and EDD was quite doable. nothing very crazy but that was likely due to us performing well

[thick vortex]

this weeks DD is top 3 most time consuming mission typed

[true zinc]

still, wasn't that bad did it in 36 mins

[exotic grove]

i learnt this the hard way, first attempt at a DD, died on the escort mission

much sadness

was trying solo with a scout, just couldn't keep doretta alive during the third phase where the lasers come out

and the elite menaces kept spawning 😦

[young yew]

Sounds tough solo Scout

Gunner should be ok

So the ability to shoot the laser tips off is Gunner specific right?

[grim wadi]

can do it with engies grenade launcher too

[coral pond]

any weapon that destroys terrain can shoot those off

[short haven]

Just completed EDD without going down once

woo

[young yew]

Ah got it

[harsh oracle]

Imho easiest elite dive what i had.

Cant say even why, tbf.

Mb because i didnt play "floor is lava" with broken shield modificator and 5 detonators on single mission what prowoked us to kill dread by pickaxe cos we had no ammo.

Man, prev deep dive was the most cursed (yet the most heroic)

[pearl frost]

Hey guys I will potentiallly look for a team to do some deep dive frequently. I play engineer 1 star ( almost two ) and a lill bit of scout too. If someone is interested please dm me!

[harsh oracle]

Good luck with that. if u wont find anyone soon - just make game publick and in the matter of 5 min you will get full party for deep dive

[pearl frost]

Was worth the try tho.😁

its more fun with potential friends tbh but I do get the point

[balmy stone]

I like joining pubs for the chaos

I have no idea what it’s gonna be like

[harsh oracle]

Never tried play game with randoms and voice chat tbf. Mb it will work as way of finding friends

Yet got few friends in game (but they remain silent after 1 week of game)

Imagine interacting with other dwarves not only with "V" but also using voice. Thats behond my imagination

[olive flicker]

I always end up going gunner for solo DD.

I want to try other stuff but in the end I decide gunner.

[tiny marten]

just finished my first dd

that was tiring LOL

[young yew]

I'm playing on Asian servers and although the majority is Chinese, many times you're not sure how to communicate outside of simple stuff. It works though.

Biggest issue is not really language things but greenbeards hitting buttons too early 😂

Also, most people don't know how to deal with Omen 😂😂😅🤣

Like I'm not an Omen pro for sure, but I know the basics

[lofty sandal]

the deep dive sounds like a drag this week

sabo low oxygen

[rocky quarry]

Always a bad combo.

[austere dust]

the cave gen for that sabo is absolutely tiny, you can almost see both the things you need to hack whilst standing in the Caretaker's room and you have so much nitra by stage 3 this time you can drop resupply pods EVERYWHERE and basically reoxygenate the entire cave, lol

[turbid frigate]

i'm a relatively new player, 3/4 first promotions done and all guns unlocked so i'm mainly looking for overclocks
i failed on 3rd stage of the elite deep dive last night, and i'm wondering if 3rd one always gives a cosmetic matrix, and also if it's more worth to do normal missions and hope for machine events than try to do the dive again for that last reward

[calm dust]

i think you gotta finish normal dd so you can do elite dd

[burnt sandal]

yes, but I don't think it's what they've been asking

[burnt sandal]

the 3rd stage always give out a cosmetic core.
it depends entirely on your luck.

[turbid frigate]

ah alright, thanks!

i think i'll pass on that last edd cosmetic then, and just focus on the assignments

[fathom sonnet]

There should be a special helm awarded to anyone who’s got the fastest deep dive time when the week resets

[burnt sandal]

nah

[ancient hawk]

Do deep dives give rewards?

[turbid frigate]

yeah, first time you do them. one reward per stage

[burnt sandal]

yes

[ancient hawk]

Cool

[young yew]

Did the DD. Not hard, but boy was it lengthy. And I hate that o2 crap (and Azure, but these caves were comparably tame)

Sabo is prob my least fav mission type. The hacking pod parts are nice, but the boss just feels like a boring drag after you've done it a couple times

Overall it was fun

[turbid frigate]

I had a good time with the sabo because i was driller and there was a tunnel right above the boss, so i threw c4 to do massive damage to all the shields, always fun to find new ways to tackle the problem

[young yew]

Cool 😄

[azure apex]

Rich atmosphere saved me for stage 2 of EDD

The fuel cell charge is absolutely aids

[austere dust]

I ain't proud of it, but I dug a bunker for the bois and minelaid its entrance constantly til it was all over

[austere dust]

this is a reasonably common strategy, a lot of drillers will drill their own tunnel and bunker up there to drop C4 on him, well done though if you figured it out yourself

[serene delta]

bruh, stage 3 DD game crashed

pain

i die inside

[turbid frigate]

yeah i thought of it even earlier but it seemed wasteful to spend all the time drilling that tunnel just to drop a couple C4s, though i guess it depends on how big the room is, and with engi platforms it's more convenient. and since driller was my first character to promote, i've been off him for a while now while working on other classes

[azure apex]

Safest way to go about it.

I solo’d the edd so I’m happy.

Took me an hour and 10 mins

[steel python]

This week's edd is nice

Just plain nice :)

[wraith shard]

yoo

this weeks edd is fucking craaaazy

[coral pond]

the map gen is a bit wild, might have killed myself the first time by running out immediately

[west tiger]

Deep dive sounds a bit lewd. Is that on purpose?

[burnt sandal]

[lone monolith]

that's more a statement about you than anything lol

[scenic jetty]

"ill deep dive on ye mum!"

[tame sinew]

this week's deep dive doesn't look that bad

am i being silly in assuming it's not

[graceful veldt]

Doing Deep Dive with only 3 players which 3 characters do you use?

[old widget]

Engi, Engi, Engi. Can’t go wrong.

Just 3 dwarves constantly shouting “platform!”

[graceful veldt]

LOL

Thank you

[old widget]

The only one I’d say take for sure is driller, because refinery. But even then, engi and platforms exist. IMO normal DD isn’t difficult enough where team comp really matters

Let people play whatever and have fun with it

[covert dawn]

Are there new DD EDD weekly?

[quiet mortar]

Every Thursday ^^

[pure pawn]

Solo deep dive is a pain

[crystal falcon]

A few weeks back I tried doing the hollow borough EDD solo... The one with the f'd up black box spawn lol. I did not survive.

[austere dust]

That was a pretty rough EDD to be honest, really struggled for nitra on that one

[crystal falcon]

Yeah same. :(

[wraith shard]

My mood shifted from being tilted because I hard carried an EDD to feeling warm after I found out it was the host’s first time completing it

[trail pivot]

it had to be sab

they won't let me use minelayer

for nothin

oh but the drilldozer might go through some sheild rock this time

interesting

[trail pivot]

nothing intersting

[pure socket]

What is the best anti-Overseer loadout for Driller? Facemelter? Maybe Volatile Impact Mixture? I always feel super weak during the fight cuz it's immune to status

[trail pivot]

probably vim and exr subata

[tulip idol]

Ice Storm, immune to status effects, but not immune to freeze state

Second is Sludge Blast

[drowsy holly]

i personally run facemelter and build a tunnel / ask engi for a bridge and my job is to throw a c4 onto the top then kill the robots

if its turrets i use 2 c4 so we are through that fast. or if we never get turrets i use it on final wave

[kindred tangle]

are deep dive ocs random for everyone

[young yew]

Anyone wanna try the EDD? I'll be Engie

I did 3 DD and 2 EDD before

[jolly obsidian]

yep its drawn from a pool of OC's you dont yet have, everyone recieves a different one and anyone getting the same one is purely coincidental

[quiet lark]

C4, just drop some on the head and watch the explosions

After that either ice storm or face melter

[woeful niche]

what is overseer

[untold saddle]

Probably meant caretaker

[queen rampart]

Holy hell elite deep dive stage 3 is annoying

Freaking kamikaze

[crisp surge]

EDD was bugged for my lobby

2nd part the fuel drop

🥶

[queen rampart]

It stuck on cellling?

[crisp surge]

yeah

[queen rampart]

Driller: well. Time to get to work

[heavy elbow]

just finish elite deep dive stage 3

in drop pod

ISP said "no"

[mellow vale]

Is it just me, or any deep dive that have a dreadnought is easier with 1-2 players compared to a full crew?

[charred spruce]

Dreadnaughts and boss enemies are generally tankier with more players in the game

[queen rampart]

But the exploded bug is the one keep stopping you doing thing

Keep you on high alert

I got lucky to kill the dreadnoughts and finished refined

Or i have another 1 or 2 hours on EDD again

[opaque hound]

my team died in EDD recently, I was driller with cryocannon the macteria are a pain in the ass

[latent wadi]

Had an amazing driller on my team drilled down the uplink and fuel tank to make a sick bunker with corners to dodge the mactera. Engi plugged up the ceiling. Made it easy

[finite vigil]

I tried that to see if it worked with Mactera on an MP mission

it did not.

[opaque hound]

Yeah, I need to have presets

or be engi with lok1 explosive module

[austere dust]

we had no driller and I dug a bunker then minelaid the shit out of the entrance

[austere oxide]

Deep dive stage 3 where tf is morkite

[jolly obsidian]

My bad got hungry

[soft shell]

Left EDD after stage 2 but got credits and xp is this bug?

Like I don’t think I’m supposed to get anything if I just leave besides like overclocks

[woeful niche]

no you always get rewards for failing/aborting a mission i think. It’s just highly reduced

[soft shell]

I got 14k credits

For EDD stage 2

Max was like 20k

Lmao

Oh shit yeah ur right

And since aborting a mission is just failing

It

25% reduced rewards

[cold sparrow]

i’m stuck on the final stage of this week’s elite deep dive

so what could i do to not die lol

[coral pond]

keep movin, don't stop unless you're absolutely sure nothing's around you. If you're in solo, use bosco to repair the pipes

[verbal pecan]

Chad bosco

[stuck pine]

hows the DD this week

abt to load into to it

[wraith shard]

Good thing: no haunted cave
Bad thing: enjoy the 3rd dive

[verbal pecan]

Mmm lack of oxygen

[hollow patio]

it was easy for us, we had a lot of nitra

just spread the resups out

[stuck pine]

we had 10 pods around caretaker

cause we saved up so much

wasnt even that bad

• a betc

[verbal pecan]

Yeah, it took a bit but had a resupply circle to keep us well breathing

[stuck pine]

is there ever litho in DD's?

[jolly obsidian]

Bet-c was at the bottom of a ledge so we didnt see it until we accidentally triggered it

Bet-c jumpscare is real

[twilit meteor]

anyone wanna spoil this week's EDD missions for me

[lofty parrot]

Check pins. Wasn’t that bad. The exploder infestation while fighting hive guard was kind of a bruh moment though

[twilit meteor]

oh my bad

[subtle lintel]

on a scale of 1 to "go driller or suffer," how bad is stage 3's pumpjack locations

[trail pivot]

Not till next season maybe

[thorny cloak]

anyone wanna jump in my deep dive I have 2 spots open

@rocky wagon bro i'm sorry

let's try again?

[coral pond]

driller

[wicked inlet]

Guys help

Where is the Morkite on stage 3 of the regular Deep Dive??? I've scoured the entire cave 3x and I only have 141/150 Morkite!

[zealous nest]

It’s on the walls

[wicked inlet]

Ive checked like every wall

[pallid dome]

is stage 3 an escort+morkite?

[zealous nest]

I have a good tip

[wicked inlet]

Stage 3 is Sabotage+Morkite

[zealous nest]

If it’s blue and shiny it’s probably morkite

[wraith shard]

They're hidden, try to search the roofs

[wicked inlet]

yes but this is Azure weald, Morkite very closely matches the color of the walls

[zealous nest]

Check under your skin

Maybe it’s there

[wicked inlet]

very helpful

[wraith shard]

U r not helping georgie

[zealous nest]

I mean

Just check the ceiling

[pallid dome]

I remember being annoyed with it but that was a couple days ago, sorry

[zealous nest]

It’s there somewhere

[wicked inlet]

is more of it in the main chamber or the side ones?

[zealous nest]

The tall one

[wraith shard]

Idk if this helps, hold your marker button to find stuff in the darkness like in the roof, it will glow and say it on the marker

[zealous nest]

What class are you playing?

[wicked inlet]

Scout

[zealous nest]

And you can’t find the morkite?

[wicked inlet]

no

[wraith shard]

Georgie cmon

[wicked inlet]

I've lit up the entire cave several times now

[zealous nest]

You sure you checked all the ceiling and rooms?

Maybe you missed a room

[wicked inlet]

This is Sabotage. There are only 4 rooms. Starting room (cleared it) 2 Generator rooms and Caretaker room. been rechecking those several times. I asked in case anyone knew of any really obscure Morkite deposit

[wraith shard]

If you can't find it I'm afraid it might be a generation system, you will prob have to restart the deep dive or wait until fixed (if it's a bug)

Sorry 😦

[wicked inlet]

if it was softlocked, nobody would have been able to complete it

Deep dive caves are the same for everyone

[zealous nest]

You thoroughly checked the terrain scanner right?

[wicked inlet]

down to the location of deposits

yes sir

[zealous nest]

Did you mine the crust?

[wicked inlet]

yup

[wraith shard]

Then I think it's uh, skill issue

[zealous nest]

Damn

Bro even mined the crust

[wicked inlet]

I hate that remark because I have no valid comeback

[wraith shard]

Idk we r trying to help 😭

[zealous nest]

Maybe just start digging holes in the wall like strip mining and see if you find it

Try near entrances and stuff

Maybe there’s a pocket that is enclosed near a connector

[summer wigeon]

I remember the last time a deep dive generated like this

[wicked inlet]

the fact that it's low o2 doesn't help

[summer wigeon]

Numerical minimum of morkite possible, you needed every crumb of crust to complete the objective

[zealous nest]

Just breathe

[wicked inlet]

wat

I am

extremely dumb

I didn't find any morkite

but ah

I think I picked up enough scraps while looking, and didn't notice

I had Bosco mine some of the deposits

[zealous nest]

[wicked inlet]

so I mustve picked up some of his crumbs

I am a stupid dwarf

gonna murder a robot Pyramid now.

[zealous nest]

Not stupid

Drank too much

[wicked inlet]

more like not enough

[thorn pumice]

Yeah I had to really scrounge the caves to find enough morkite. Doesn't help that the caves are a similar colour.

[young yew]

Azure Weald and stingy on Morkite, my personal hell

Also Scout should get double flares on Azure

[jolly obsidian]

It was fine only because it was a normal DD with easy cave gen

Hell i enjoyed refining morkite on it fancy that

[hollow shell]

I just did the basic deep dive we’re my teammates kept calling down resupplies and waste all of our nitra and we lost last mission , man I wise there was a feature where you have to vote to call on a resupply

[celest coyote]

I'm recruiting brave dwarves to complete the longest tube ride achievement, who cares?
I'm waiting for you on the 29 pod

[lost jungle]

i mean

sabo has a shitload of nitra anyway

[wraith shard]

play with better players

[fluid pendant]

Does anyone here know of a good guide for Deep Dives? I've never done one and would love what to look out for

[azure apex]

There’s a good few.

[wheat pasture]

Yeah I had 149/150 Morkite and I knew for a fact that I was never going to find all the morkite spots again and mine those super tiny spots of morkite and get it. What I did find interesting though is when you mined somewhere around the caretakers base, I found like 2.6 extra morkite, but that didn’t help me so I’ll probably re run it with the morkite 120% drink

[quick compass]

This game hates me, ill never get the oc i wanted

My deep dive journey will never be complete

[balmy viper]

https://youtu.be/1V3JxR4W5Fg

[quick compass]

Click play, have fun

[azure apex]

Which is it ?

[wraith shard]

if he says fatboy I'm gonna end it all

[quick compass]

Nah burning hell

[queen rampart]

What's class again?

[quick compass]

Gunner’s leadstorm, creates a 5 meter cone in front of the gun of heat damage and causes the weapon to overheat faster allowing for a much easier use of aggressive venting

[wraith shard]

I hate it when people say leadstorm instead of minigun because lead storm is the OC

[quick compass]

Leadstorm is also the name of the gun

And a grenade

But go off i guess

[wet sentinel]

EDD stage 3 was rough

but fun

[fleet stream]

technically the grenade's called leadburster

[queen rampart]

To be honest edd stage 3 this week is pretty challenging

Due to kamikaze bug keep spawning

Last weeks it just 4 eggs + low O2

[wraith shard]

that's leadburster

[wet sentinel]

stage 2 we made an underground bunker for the uplink

thank goodness the fuel cells dropped right next to the uplink into our bunker

[wraith shard]

bunker 🤮

[wet sentinel]

hey maaaaan mactera plague sucks

[strange wasp]

how many bulk dets have people come across in the elite

[wet sentinel]

in stage 3 we had 2

[strange wasp]

nice, trying to get some friends to run an elite and want to prepare them 🙂

[wet sentinel]

its fun

really fun

[strange wasp]

bring on the pain

[queen rampart]

3

And nothing much

Glyphid guard the most

[wet sentinel]

might need some communication

especially stage 3

[queen rampart]

What is this! Serious sam?

[strange wasp]

for the onsite i would just build all pipes fast as possible and then do dread and then start the pumps.

[queen rampart]

I mean the exploded bug spawning

They just keep coming

[wet sentinel]

yea exploder infestation is ROUGH

[strange wasp]

oh i just saw that was the warning lol how fun

[wet sentinel]

whenever i was repairing a pipe as soon as i saw an exploder leg enter my fov i BOOKED it

[strange wasp]

do you think having one of each class matters for edd?

[wraith shard]

you have rich atmosphere you don't get to complain

[queen rampart]

Gunner for damage and stun
Engi with max dps and help scout for nitra
Driller make the way easier for the team and try to clean horde
Scout light and nitra

[wraith shard]

gunner best EDD class

[strange wasp]

kk

[wicked inlet]

Don't Give up hope. I wanted special powder and RJ250 from the very beginning, and I eventually got both of them, though it took a while. (Also I got them both back-to-back which was nice)

[quick compass]

i mean i got others that i really like.......just getting oc's like flachette always hurts

[quick compass]

at least i got elephant rounds this week, which is fun. big boy revolver doing big boy revolver things

[frozen quest]

haz5 and EDD 🥱

make haz6 or 7

[coral pond]

Ok

[woeful niche]

just wait till u get vb

[quick compass]

i already do, its one of the reasons i wanna get burning hell for leadstorm gun and salvo for hurricane. vb was one of the first few oc's i got

it slaps. really versatile

[velvet sigil]

Anyone here know all the objs for the EDD? planning out my engi loadout before going in

[tall meadow]

Look at pinned messages

Updated each reset

[velvet sigil]

ah cool. thanks man

[frozen quest]

cope cuz bad

[coral pond]

ok

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[jolly obsidian]

Daily deep dives when?

Jk that would ruin progression

[soft shell]

Engie better

And is best overall

[wraith shard]

Guys I Finally got my character promoted and now I can have the sweet pain and stress of doing deep dives 🥳🥳🥳

[soft shell]

Deep dive isn’t bad at all

EDD is the problem

Also you should skip the last stage

Just get ur two overclocks and 10-14k credits and save some time

[quick compass]

yeah you can miss one forge and still get two extra forges from forge mastery each week.....but like.....just do your best man go at it

[woeful niche]

boring

not doing the full thing is cringe

un dwarven

leaf lover behavior

[soft shell]

Wasting your time for a minuscule reward

Is cringe

Leaving it at the end

Is so based

[woeful niche]

this has the same energy as those losers that skip gold

[soft shell]

💀

[woeful niche]

or worse: skip phazyonite

[soft shell]

I do that all that time

I skip gold only though

I take everything else

[woeful niche]

lame

[left aurora]

Skip gold unless other ppl b mining it

then u mine

[soft shell]

I don’t skip gold only when crassus

[woeful niche]

you don’t have to go out of ur way to mine it, but purposefully skipping an easy vein is dum

lol that’s the one time i skip gold

crassus takes way too long without driller

[soft shell]

Time is money wasting your time for a near worthless mineral unless found in high amounts is bad

If I stayed and mined all the gold that doesn’t matter a wave might randomly spawn and I’m forced to use ammo

Ammo = nitra

Nitra = limited resource

Limited resource = wise management and usage

Wise management + usage = skipping gold whenever you can

[coral pond]

i only grab gold if i've got TCF for a quick mining of it

just run and grab

[trail pivot]

to be fair

the cosmetics are an ocean of beards anyway

[quick compass]

time is money? youre starting to sound like mission control, and as wel all know, mission control aint dwarf

[trail pivot]

the paintjobs you want are all 800 hours away

[young yew]

Sounds like you don't like beards

[woeful niche]

yes “time is money”. Meanwhile you ignore gold right next to the drop pod while waiting for molly for no reason other then “gold bad”

[soft shell]

Saving ammo + nitra (the most important mineral in the game)> useless mineral that is useful in large quantities

Lol

[woeful niche]

ppl are such simps for nitra

anyone who plays this game a lot knows it gives you way more nitra then you will ever need on most missions

[tiny night]

true i want my fucking gunner paintjob already

[woeful niche]

so why tf are you mining nitra on edds? i end with like an extra 3 resupplues

[tiny night]

just in case

[woeful niche]

lol sure bud

[tiny night]

shit hits the fan

[woeful niche]

shit hits the fan and having 3 vs 6 extra resupplies doesnt fucking matter

[tiny night]

no its free health

[woeful niche]

mine gold like a chad

[tiny night]

yes i use excess resups as heals

so what

[tiny night]

i have enough credits for oc forging and all that

[woeful niche]

sure but i don’t stick by my resupplies, even with resupplier relying on that for heals means you aren’t just dodging properly

[tiny night]

i dont need gold

[tiny night]

how am i gonna dodge properly as gunner when there's macteras and spitters everywhere

[woeful niche]

well gold is still xp + i’m trying to reach 10 mil credits

[tiny night]

no matter what i still get some mactera projectile in my face

so annoying

[woeful niche]

If u can’t kite well, take the most broken gun on gunner: hurricane. Legit makes maxtera plague a joke

you don’t even need to kite well with it cus you stunlock things

[tiny night]

i dont like how the projectiles of it have travel time

just feels awkward to use

[woeful niche]

lol

then idk what to tell you

[tiny night]

i use burning hell with hellfire fear

the classic combo

[woeful niche]

either learn to dodge or take a broken weapon. That’s the main way to get good results

bruh if ur using hellfire fire you shud not be getting hit by mactera

the aoe on that fear is massive

[tiny night]

yknow theyre not always in a group

they fly separately

[woeful niche]

does not matter

the aoe so nutty it barely matters

[tiny night]

nah i dont see where its nutty

feels like regular aoe to me

[woeful niche]

legit don’t have to aim, just look in the general direction

[woeful niche]

it’s significantly larger then the hellfire trail itself which is already huge

[tiny night]

yeah but i dont normally see it

[woeful niche]

and again: You don’t need to use broken weapons to dodge. They just make it FAR easier

[tiny night]

its invisible

[woeful niche]

it’s large enough that almost anything on ur screen will fear

[tiny night]

ok

[woeful niche]

at least in close range

which btw, mactera have to be a set distance away to fire at you

if you use controlled magnetic flow, you can effectively “stunlock” them by just repeatedly firing. Dodging literally doesn’t even come into play lol

[tiny night]

do i just stay close to them then

[woeful niche]

no they come to you

at the distance they fire, you can easily proc fear repeatedly as long as they are on screen

[pure pawn]

damn it too many cave leach in stage 2 for me to solo

[little forge]

Tried looking up😁

[lost jungle]

how are u having any problems with this 💀

[coral pond]

I love how a simple conversation over people's preference to not mine gold turns into shit slinging just cause someone doesn't like how someone else plays 💀

[wraith shard]

sounds like a fun read

[lost jungle]

eh

[austere dust]

The best kind of ocean

[woeful niche]

ppl watch 1 vid about how ‘inefficient’ gold is and now non stop ppl complain when they see me mine it

i will meme and eat all the gold

[coral pond]

You do you

[wraith shard]

What's the deep dive missions today?

[burnt sandal]

check the pinned message

[brave jackal]

Can we repeat deep dives for its xp and gold rewards?

[tiny night]

yes

[fleet stream]

Not that it's really worth it as an edd is worth much less than 3 average regular runs in both exp and gold

on top of the fact that you can't get plagueheart events which sometime amount to a whole mission worth of PP exp

[burnt sandal]

yes, though that's not really worth it

[austere dust]

And no minerals in dds so another layer of inefficiency there too

[brave jackal]

Aight thanks for the insight

[trail pivot]

Paintjob>Beard

[cosmic tree]

Drilldozer AND data rack?

[void stratus]

fuckin tired of putting in deep dive effort and people just quitting and wasting your whole game

shit needs to be fixed

hours upon hours wasted

[trail pivot]

lfg for dives

[void stratus]

add me? @trail pivot

[old widget]

#lfg-steam

[tall meadow]

okay son, it's time for you to go back to your nitra mining

[lilac apex]

these exploders on stage 3 are driving me maaaaaaaad

[woeful niche]

nitra for loz3rs. Gold 4 chads

[tall meadow]

tsk tsk disappointment

[opaque hound]

Is sludge pump good against mactera?

[old widget]

Ehh. Probably the least effective primary against mactera IMO

[untold saddle]

I think it deals bonus damage, but I still tend to whip out my secondary since mactera are enemies you want dead fast.

[old widget]

AG mixture works reasonably well but you still gotta coat each bug in turn. Axes or secondary much quicker

TCF is the god tier mactera deleter

[opaque hound]

Oh I just read the monster book, they die to freezing

Hmmm, perhaps I should invest in range for cryocannon

[brisk pagoda]

rush them with cold radiance when they try to shoot

[night island]

my second ever dive... and 3 resupplies on first mission? That doesn't feel like that should happen? is that normal

ok this is silly now they just called 2 resupplies in a row second mission??

[rotund summit]

usually everyone will take 2 supplies so you can use them whenever is needed, but yeah the amount of nitra in ED is exaggerated since a couple~ months ago

[woeful niche]

mactera have 100% weakness to corrosive dmg and flamer. Its very good, especially with a good impact dmg build like vim or sludge blast

[opaque hound]

Thank you!

[woeful niche]

cryo cannon works but mactera have decently high freeze temps to compensate for the fact they instantly die when frozen, meaning the only fast ways to freeze them quickly are cold rad or snowball. Getting in close with cold radiance is dangerous, but snowball is actually extremely good at freezing groups if u have it

its basiclly just scouts cryo nade. Really good on mactera plague

[opaque hound]

Makes sense because last time I tried getting close and about to freeze them but got shotgunned

[neat talon]

Opening of stage 3 of this weeks EDD - we got mobbed at the drop pod doors. I hadn’t even got out of my seat because the other teammates were blocking the door when a bunch of exploders lit up and I died, which seemed odd.

Then I died again in the pod, well behind the door. Wonder if anyone else had a similar thing happen.

[wanton bough]

Are the deep dives the same for everyone every time

[old widget]

Cave generation and objectives for each week’s DD and EDD are the same for everyone on a given platform (PC, console, etc)

[royal magnet]

The cave generation is the same so minerals and objectives will be in the same place. What bugs you get each time are different though

[west tiger]

The pod doesnt seem to have a safe zone when it lands on the mission, only when you are leaving

That said, mission 3 left me quite paranoid

[tulip idol]

you can just bunker up real quick with short 45 degrees tunnel

stone is the best counter to macteras

[woeful niche]

ye but bunker boring

[finite vigil]

well that's your problem then

[alpine needle]

I want to do a deep dive but I don´t know anyone who got the game between my friends and I already fail at making it alone 2 times in the 3d one
someone want to team?(?

[old widget]

Try #928582985559736360 channel for your platform

Or join / host a public game - lots of people running dives

[alpine needle]

thanks

[woeful niche]

i only gives advice about playing the game the fun way instead of the sit in a tunnel and kill things way. You can do it but it gets old fast imo. Plus literally anydriller primary wud be amazing in a tunnel so it really doesn’t even matter at that point

[quick compass]

Almost everything becomes amazing in a tunnel. Penetration? Tunnel. Aoe? Tunnel. Grenade? Tunnel. Its super efficient…….BUT, is it fun

[coral pond]

fun is subjective, idk why people like shoving their form of fun on others

[west tiger]

Bunker thing is fun. You are setting up a kill zone, how fucking cool is that?

Its largely unnecessary, just git gud and all that, but its not boring.

[scenic jetty]

its an odd experience since the "normal" play would be to run around for your life until swarms dies down

[buoyant wing]

spent too long in kf_bioticslab to enjoy shooting down a straight hallway again personally

[finite vigil]

ok have fun with a billion mactera then

[hushed sequoia]

you dont need a bunker to kill a billion mactera

[finite vigil]

ok explain how

other than gIt GuD

giver some actual fucking advice

[hushed sequoia]

prioritize the ones charging up a shot

[finite vigil]

so all of them then?

[hushed sequoia]

they all aren't charging a shot at the same time

[finite vigil]

yes they fucking are

[hushed sequoia]

90% of the time they are not

[finite vigil]

well with me they are.

[hushed sequoia]

even if it's slightly delayed killing the one that's 1 second or however short closer to firing is still gonna save you

[finite vigil]

whilst the others still get everyone else

[hushed sequoia]

that's a teammate issue

if you're driller then you could always use tcf or c4

[finite vigil]

was trying Lead Storm cos of the dreadnoughts

only have the compact ammo OC

[hushed sequoia]

what secondary

[finite vigil]

Burt

[hushed sequoia]

i really don't like compact feed mechanism

but i guess it's not awful

[buoyant wing]

for mactera plague the thing you want most is shield whenever the shooting squad spawns

provided nobody else is capable of instantly destroying them with aoe

[finite vigil]

didn't seem like my teammates were ever doing that

going scout now on another team

cryo nades of course

[kindred tangle]

fuck the mactera rich atmos nonsense

[finite vigil]

you think that's bad, try the last stage

I was not ready for a dozen spitballers

mainly discovered while I was panic running after everyone else died immediately

then a swarm happened

and then THAT swarm popped the cocoon

[trail pivot]

haz 5.5 mactera plague with poor cover tho

[finite vigil]

welp, the host decided to go afk at the start of the second stage

https://tenor.com/view/angry-anger-pixar-inside-out-aaah-gif-5628546

nothing is fucking going right with this EDD

[zenith ember]

thats a yikes

[woeful niche]

i legit gave the other dude advice on ways to deal with mactera as driller

if you actually have no idea how to dodge mactera in general it’s actually not that complicated.

Regular mactera shoot in a straight line so all you have to do is run perpendicular to wherever they are.

Tri jaws seem intimidating but there are 2 consistent ways to dodge them. You can either run straight at them ( if you think i’m kidding try it and most of the time the projectile whizzes over ur head). You can run perpendicular to them and try to position yourself between the second and third shot, since those have the by far the biggest space between them and you cannot really out run the third shot without very high move speed or grappling hook.

If ur dealing with multiple of both coming at the same time, i tend to run diagonally towards them or diagonally away from them. If you run diagonally towards, you’ll easily dodge the spawn and the trijaw shot shud go over you if close enough. If you don’t think you can close the gap fast enough for due to other mobs or terrain, try running away diagonally so that you dodge the spawn and have time to place yourself between the tri jaws second and third shot.

When it comes to absolutely massive groups of both, ur either gonna need to use ur traversal tool to escape, or kill them with a good anti mactera weapon like snowball (which is part of the advice i gave the other dude).

Anyways i hope this crackpot guide to dodging mactera helps someone kek

[lost jungle]

essay mf

[kindred tangle]

dodging is easy

its knowing when to shoot

[woeful niche]

like always

[night island]

The weakpoints

Wait misread as where nvm

[near imp]

you can either finish them before or after they shoot

its best to kill them asap

[kindred tangle]

sad halfway thru deep dive host crashed lmao

[woeful niche]

oof

[tulip idol]

On my 3rd edd stage we were freezing hiveguard multiple times and I think he went invulnerable just in the moment he got unfrozen, and that resulted in 0 sentinels afterwards. There was nothing to be done about that - hard-locked mission objective. Shield's fear, freeze state, changing positions didn't change his behaviour.

[mental osprey]

Algum BR pelo amor de Deus ?

[woeful niche]

once took me half an hour to fix hiveguard. Only stayed cus it was an hour long double xp full length mission

it’s rare but it can still get stuck in a way that takes a lot of finesse to fix

sucks the devs havnt managed to fix it yet given how every update it tends to temporarily get significantly worse

[kindred tangle]

how did u fix it

[untold saddle]

Getting up in his face and pickaxing him/throwing shields on him sometimes work. But it always takes a while and sometimes it just can't be fixed.

[queen rampart]

I wonder what will be next

[night island]

can I get an f, first elite dive when I usually play haz 3, died when I had all eggs and had last dread on low health 😭

[wraith shard]

can anyone kelp me with deep dive ??

[old widget]

Welcome, new diver - check / host a game in the #928582985559736360 channel for your platform or join / host public lobbies - tons of folks are willing to help, dives being hosted all the time

[wraith shard]

Thanks sos I didn’t know there was a channel dedicated to helping

[old widget]

It's just the general "looking for game" channel, but most folks here are helpers for greenbeards

[finite vigil]

Don’t the usual Mactera track you anyway when firing? and at H5 the projectiles come out super quick, how can you possibly dodge that

and then when a dozen of them spawn at the same time, you’re screwed if you don’t have any shields or cryo nades left

anyway, done the EDD, all it took was teammates knowing what they were doing.

[soft shell]

You’re taking the trash pistol aren’t you

If you take bulldog

You legit one shot small mactera

And two tap triclaws

Idk why you’re taking Brt

[woeful niche]

how can you read everything i typed and still have no idea how to dodge them lol. They have projectile time, even on haz 5 you 100% can dodge them

[finite vigil]

you think I haven't tried?

[soft shell]

Yeah you clearly haven’t

[woeful niche]

im sorry but that just means you need practice. Trial and error is the only way to improve

[soft shell]

Can’t kite

Or dodge

[finite vigil]

please shut the fuck up

[soft shell]

Or take optimal weaponry in the difficulty where it matters most

[woeful niche]

i literally went step by step on how to dodge each variant

it’s def doable, even on haz 5

[soft shell]

Please shut the fuck up! 🤓

[woeful niche]

bruh no need to be a dick

[finite vigil]

what, do I have to record the fuckers spewing their shit at a million mph or something.

if you try to dodge one Mactera, another one will get you anyway.

[soft shell]

😭

[woeful niche]

yes we have all played the game on haz 5 before, i get that it’s challenging

but it is very easy once you get the hang of it

[west tiger]

Haz 5? More like no challenge 5 amirite

[woeful niche]

mactera have very easy to read shooting patterns too btw. You can easily listen for the sound que to know when they will shoot

so you can shoot safely and then start dodging when you hear the attack coming out if u don’t kill it in time

[west tiger]

When I see mactera i tend to just bolt and deal with them outside the range

If that isnt an option, then stunning them by hitting the weak point works

[woeful niche]

if u hit the weakpoint, it’ll go down fast anyways

mactera are difficult to dodge in large numbers but that’s balanced by the fact they are super squishy

[finite vigil]

yes, but when a dozen of them spawn at the same time, there's a new problem.

and cos I used Lead Storm for the dreads, it was almost impossible to fire at them all quickly.

[west tiger]

This

[woeful niche]

that rarely happens outside mactera plague. If ur going into a plague, just bring a weapon that your class is good for it

[woeful niche]

ls kills them pretty well still

[west tiger]

If its just one it's not really a problem

[soft shell]

Bulldog bulldog bulldog bulldog

👍

[woeful niche]

do not be afraid to burn a shield if it’s a lot of them too btw

[west tiger]

You arent shooting 12 times and hitting 12 different weakpoints before one of them shoots back.

[finite vigil]

hell, this one wave spawned not just a dozen Spawns but Brundles

[woeful niche]

edds have a ton of nitra so staying alive is way more important