deep-dive-discussion

[hollow citrus]

wut, EDD 2 has very easy generation

also, I swear sabo got easier with the latest update. less bugs during hack-c, somehow caretaker feels easier too

bugs also no longer spawn on top of hack-c

[opal silo]

did the new edd drop?

[fleet stream]

oui

[unreal copper]

It isn't hard, but it makes the map take twice as long

[oak horizon]

dd and edd were fairly easy 👀 rando squad and we sub 40 and sub 50 respectively

[waxen terrace]

600 nitra from stage 2 might alleviate that fear

[woeful niche]

they never did, it feels just as easy as before

[hollow citrus]

oh, maybe I was thinking of the data deposits. those always end up as clusterfs

[viral lichen]

anyone from US I need a small help Please DM🖐️

[plucky bane]

help with deep dive?

[zenith ember]

Nice to have a chill edd with no screwed up terrain for once

Mini zappers are annoying af tho

[dusky mauve]

We had like 600 nitra going into stage 3 and the dreadnoughts aswell as all the morkite are right next to spawn

The o2 isnt even a relevant modifier this time

[coral pond]

low 02 is really only relevant on deep dives if it's stage 1

[burnt sandal]

pinned message

[dapper moth]

Oh sorry

[burnt sandal]

all good

[daring mason]

I'm relatively a greenbeard, I've promoted each class once. I've done a couple of deep dives and I'm wondering if I should also be doing EDD or if there is a "proper time".

[burnt sandal]

there's no proper time outside of when you feel like it

those are hard missions though.

[daring mason]

In other words give it a shot when I feel like committing. Thay works for me. Thanks!

[dapper moth]

AAAAAAAAAAAAH

I missed deep for speed by a sec

[thin terrace]

How is the EDD this week for a group of dwarves that only play haz4 and one guy to carry them all? (me)

[lone monolith]

it's not bad, prob get a lot of downs on shield disruption but as long as you survive you're good lol

[vestal rain]

Ive only got 1 class promoted and already did it, should be relatively fine

[unreal copper]

If you play haz 5, you can do an EDD

[unreal copper]

EDD is deceptively easy this week. Tons of nitra, and the mods end up not being nearly a non-factor.

[charred spruce]

So how is EDD stage 1? It has been somewhat terrifying for me with haunted cave but trying

[unreal copper]

If you are able to peek at where the horror is every 15 s or so, it will not be an issue

the cave is pretty wide open, so you can easily just walk around it

[thin terrace]

a tip on the ghost bulk. If you see blue wisps flying around you, you are inside his melee range. You can tank a single hit as well. So if you're paying attention, he shouldn't catch you unless you're being greedy

[charred spruce]

Ah okai

Thank you so much for filling this in. It helps a lot

[violet warren]

The ghost can also be slowed down by most slowing effects, or flipped with a shield if he keeps sitting on the refinery button

[steel python]

Just finished the EDD successfully

Here are some tips, if they weren't already obvious:

• Stage 1's morkite wells are spread pretty far, but one spawns vertically for some annoying reason so, if you are Driller, quickly drill a tunnel up to it and get the pipeline set up.
  It will save a lot of time that you can finish the stage with one or two swarms only.

• Stage 2 is quite lethal with awful cave generation, BUT you can manage to get all the morkite needed before reaching the bottom level.

Our group got fucked by a mactera swarm during extraction, but scout and gunner managed to get in the pod and complete the stage.

The quicker you can get this done, you may not need to call a resupply at all.

• Stage 3 is "long" because of pauses for O2, but the generation for the cocoons is pretty good with large open flat spaces.

If you've saved up enough nitra, it helps having one to three resupplies on the ground for O2, cover, and ammo.

Good luck, miners!

[rain lance]

were do i see what the deep dive stats are

[coral pond]

PINS

whoops

[rain lance]

ok thanks

[supple lotus]

My group is doing a DD for the first time. All 4 classes covered. What perks should we have? Any class synergy that rocks? We usually plow through hazard 2-3.

[fallow osprey]

Perks that generally have 1 use reset on each stage, so don't shy away from Iron Will or Field Medic bc of that. Beyond that just, whatever ya'll find comfortable to use lmao

[scenic jetty]

I dont recommend beast master with exploder infestation :v

Iron will and field medic are on the top ones i will take for DD and EDD

[zenith ember]

Iron will + field medic is quite common for clutching a otherwise losing scenario, with iron will granting you a second life if you can get any form of health before the timer runs out

For that reason resupplier/vampire/sweet tooth are popular choices

Beast master is generally ok as a distraction, dash on active perk is extremely beneficial on slower classes like gunner/engineer

Born ready is nice, though it can form bad habits of not reloading

Thorns when maxed helps quite a bit with dealing with swarmers, heightened senses is great if you have trouble with leeches or grabbers

[zenith ember]

Overall the regular deep dive shouldnt be an issue for you guys if you are comfortable with haz 3, the highest difficulty is only 3.5

Just roll with whatever your team is used to

[burnt sandal]

Elite deep dives hazard is 4.5/5/5.5, so it's going to be a lot harder.

Ideally, you'll want all classes available, though it's not too important if you don't.
Perks aren't that important either, but I think yall need Iron Will, and maybe Field Medic.

[scenic jetty]

Or class or loadout you are most comfortable with

[vestal rain]

if hes doing a normal DD it's closer to haz 3/4, no?

[supple lotus]

Yeah just DD this time

[burnt sandal]

normal deep dives are from 3 to 3.5, but I was talking about elite deep dives.

[vestal rain]

Ok and he was asking about DD

[burnt sandal]

yes, and my advices were focusing on the EDD because other people already covered the normal one.

[scenic jetty]

EDD needs their own special loadout imo. I have the D loadout for EDD only

[zenith ember]

EDD also requires the player to be used to the speed the bugs move on haz 5

[vestal rain]

Honestly the haz5 bug speed is the biggest challenge

that and bug damage since stupid swarmers benefit from it and also macteras oneshot ya

[zenith ember]

But its a good experience even if they fail, especially this week's

[burnt sandal]

that and the projectile speed

[vestal rain]

Also would anyone else rather fight an oppressor than 15 swarmers all coming from different sides

[scenic jetty]

Oh that’s why I always get caught in Twins sniping me across the map

[zenith ember]

Oppressor is almost never a threat, meanwhile swarms can easily mow you down

[vestal rain]

Hell, id rather fight a dreadnaught too since they even guarantee a wave wont spawn

[zenith ember]

Thats agreeable until arbelest decides to go in front of you and shotgun your face

[hollow citrus]

dreads are just ammo sinks, i'd rather not get a random one at all

[white osprey]

edd looked scary at first but ended up being pretty easy

[hollow citrus]

hollow bough makes everything harder. dense biozone is actually easier after they tweaked the wavy walls

[thin terrace]

I will go as far as to say that Beastmaster should be actively avoided on Gunner and Driller. Anything that incentivizes you to not AOE packs because you want to keep one of them alive is probably a losing strategy long term. Let the engineer and scout take beastmaster

[leaden jacinth]

Just leave that one guard alive thru masterful cc

[odd plaza]

got the speed run thing on the edd

love my giant lazer beam

[lone monolith]

EDD this week was quick and fun, did it in 40mins!

[prime ferry]

The Regular deep dive this week was sorta... repetitive.

[south oak]

Low o2 does feel repetitive.

[minor cloak]

Just accidentally failed my solo DD by exiting the stage 3 drop pod 🙃

[lost jungle]

no they dont lmfao

[waxen terrace]

^

EDD loadouts is the same loudout youd use generally in a haz 4 or 5 setting

[fleet stream]

Perhaps the only difference is that it's generally better to use a generalist / jack-of-all-trades build since you're supposed to get in there blind

so you can't use a standard haz5 aoe/cc setup if there's dreads / sabo

[charred spruce]

This EDD did feel easy despite the modifiers. Just needed to take time and the amount of nitra that was there really liberated me. Also bless 30% extra health.

[nova hearth]

what build did you go with in the end

[solid haven]

I always say this to my teammates, TAKE THE GOD DAMN IRON WILL.. the rest is up to you which 1 you like.

[rocky quarry]

Deep Derp Discussion - Post all your failed EDD and DD's here.

[charred spruce]

Scout. Drak 25 (Impact Deflection OC) and Boomstick (more ammo and reload speed OC), cryo grenades and the beer that gives 30% extra health. Bosco had cryo rockets.

[azure thunder]

Ironwill? Just do not get downed all the time

[nova hearth]

nice, and congrats on your first successful EDD!

[charred spruce]

Thank you

[azure thunder]

Also 2/3 extra health cuz it applies twice

[charred spruce]

Heck ye

[tribal sandal]

It’s important for scout and gunner mostly

[azure thunder]

FM for fear coil revives tho 😔

Can save soooo many shields

That way you can use them so people do not get downed in first place

[woeful patrol]

People should not entirely rely on IW and be like "well, we lost because one of our teammates didn't have IW", no, you lost because of yourself

[tribal sandal]

It’s a safety net

[azure thunder]

4 IW pops at same time is pinnacle of IW

[charred spruce]

Survive more and make best efforts to not die

[azure thunder]

safety net that is only used till game itself reminds them they have IW

[tribal sandal]

I wait till the timer goes to 7 sec before popping

[tribal sandal]

Also for scouts who die in the ceiling

[azure thunder]

Dies 2nd time.
has left the game.

[woeful patrol]

Accurate

[azure thunder]

Those goddamn leeches

If only driller used his flares more

Lazy bastard

[tribal sandal]

I’ve lost several runs cuz the scout dies high up and a swarm comes

[azure thunder]

Another reason to ban scouts from your lobby

[charred spruce]

Heightened senses is bliss

[boreal nest]

:C

[azure thunder]

They won't end up in uganda if nobody have grappling hook

[charred spruce]

How to make use of scout:
Make them play solo

[boreal nest]

But isn't it just nice to have a scout on your team?

[charred spruce]

Without a team I mean just solo lobby

[woeful patrol]

Me with Scout Shield Booster and Dash : My goals are beyond your understanding

[azure thunder]

Skipping Steeve?

[charred spruce]

As a solo scout being the only dwarf and scout is nice in my team

[tribal sandal]

Light is cool and all but the best status effect is dead and scouts do that worse than other classes

But the materials and nitra is very nice

[woeful patrol]

Skipping Steeve like I skip legs days

[charred spruce]

Steeve more like

die

[tribal sandal]

Facts

[tiny night]

finished both in under an hour, they were pretty fun tbh aside from the elite dd first mission

[karmic flame]

lmao dark morkite is actually useful in this edd

[lime meteor]

It's always been useful in morkite specific missions

[karmic flame]

damn, bunker builders are really not doing well with there recent deep dives

its the 3rd haunted cave in a row lol

[unreal copper]

Good. Forces people to actually learn to play the game.

[lime meteor]

fr

also magma core

[fleet stream]

The one time i've witnessed a bunker this week was when I joined an already-started refinery mission with a driller + scout

both were half dead / KOed in a small bunker (where I landed) pursuited by a bulk
I pop a couple of leadbursters and revive em both
rock and stone ensues

[lime meteor]

drillers forgetting they can drill out of the bunker when put in a dangerous scenario🗿

[hollow citrus]

ooh devs are considering not allowing 2 escorts in one dive (like how they didn't want 2 sabos)

[fleet stream]

wasn't that already active?

also, slightly unrelated but
I've really come to enjoy big bertha and leadbursters lately
great generalist OC and the grenade turns unexpected bulks into swiss cheese

[hollow citrus]

no, 2 escorts are currently allowed and have rolled before

it was a tiring run full of robot screeching

[unreal copper]

I'm probably gonna skip if that happens again. Only mission type I actively avoid

[karmic flame]

yo this EDD was easy

no bullshit generation

no stupid mutators

no black box

no black box

did i mention that there was no black box?

[covert swift]

i cant wait to do deep dives

[charred spruce]

No black box

And no sabotage

[bronze valve]

maybe say it 1 more time

[vagrant heron]

I resemble that remark. It's the only reason I take IW on all my scouts. Better than wasting half the driller's fuel trying to come get me in a random corner of the ceiling 2 rooms back on an escort mission

[supple lotus]

Did alright on the DD until a bulk detonator camped our last re-supply of stage 2. We panicked and went to stage 3 almost dead. Forgot the shield disruption... 🤬

[maiden peak]

I play scout and I enjoy it

[stuck pine]

unlucky

[maiden peak]

nonononono

scout really feels like im playing DOOM

i love DOOM so I like it

[stuck pine]

doom has a grapple hook?

[maiden peak]

no

sorta

the super shotgu hook

[plucky bane]

get ultrakill now!!!

[maiden peak]

I also really like the mobility

[cobalt moat]

nah i prefer dusk

[maiden peak]

whats ultrakill?

[stuck pine]

i just rocket jump on engi

[plucky bane]

both are really good

[plucky bane]

tf2 be like

[maiden peak]

ok

[cobalt moat]

indeed, New Blood games are bangers

[maiden peak]

ill look at it

[plucky bane]

movement based shooter that's really fast paced and better than any doom I've played (though the original dooms are really good)

[maiden peak]

ok

what class do you play in drg

[plucky bane]

I like driller the most so far

they're all really fun

[maiden peak]

driller is an interesting class but it is the weirdest

and the flamethrower is kinda dangerous

[plucky bane]

my favorite publisher fr

coffee stain is also a decent publisher

[maiden peak]

yeah, coffee stain is great

[echo storm]

man this edd is lookin interesting

i like it

NO MORE INDUSTRIAL SABOTAGE

[wary marlin]

i kinda liked industrial sabatoge being the last stage as it kind of felt like a final boss, but i feel like it should be more variable and not the exact same every time

[trail pivot]

If they made it a dynamic thing like meteors where the caretaker could simply appear in a once in each stage, to harass the players and the caretaker itself was a recurring boss whose health loss was permanent that would be cool too.

But that's kinda just a harder nemesis

[plucky bane]

I want EDD to only be sabo

I would love it

6 sabos in one EDD

secondaries are just sabos

lovely

[pure roost]

I tried out a Deep dive mission, I failed stage 2 playing as the scout. I'll try again with a different class.

[wary marlin]

mini caretaker

[vagrant cipher]

mini caretaker spinning on top of caretaker

[white ginkgo]

Is it me or are the new two deep dives relatively easy?

I managed to do both under 45 min each

In a full team of randoms

[charred spruce]

They are gentle yea

[scenic jetty]

One of our random teammates said “boring” :v

[gilded garnet]

how long do hazard 3 deep dives take on average with 2 people

[azure thunder]

It depends on deep dive in question

5-20 depending on objectives, nitra hunger and team lazyness

Times 3

[tulip summit]

I went into the DD with the worst possible loadout for the missions and modifiers within, still managed to pull it off and leave 6 resupply pods for Karl

[azure thunder]

You can skip most nitra on normal deep dives cuz its haz 3 so who needs ammo anyway 🙃

[vagrant cipher]

isnt the last mission on normal DD cap at haz 4.5?

[thorn jewel]

3.5

[wraith shard]

I plan on going on my first DD tonight

What should I expect

[jolly obsidian]

Not much its pretty easy
Just if you have something to combat shield disruption such as the boost to health regained from supply drops perk you will find it handy

[hazy lily]

If you're comfortable on haz 3 you should be fine, just make sure to only call resupplies when everyone needs them :)

[wraith shard]

Gotcha

[plucky bane]

did the dd today

got like 48 minutes

[ionic fable]

so I found a random edd team

and we not only complete it, but did it first try with probably <10 faints

never have I seen a team that just understood what to do

it was beautiful

[thorn jewel]

Unironically pubs have plenty of good players

The discord just suffers from those who over-vocalize and want to over-compensate or show off they’re better than they are

[wraith shard]

we got screwed last stage

all these freaking bugs

we got two oppressor and a bulk detonator as well a crapton of trijaws and a grabber

[jolly obsidian]

Grabbers arent a huge deal though are they? Leeches are dangerous but grabbers dont really do anything to you

[burnt sandal]

grabbers are just as dangerous

[hollow citrus]

pubs are just a dice roll

I know people like to say rank and promotion doesn't matter, but someone who's been playing longer has access to more OCs and upgrades than a fresh bronze 1. and better game sense overall as well. there are obviously exceptions but that's just what I've noticed playing a lot of pub DDs.

[burnt sandal]

OCs don't matter much

[lime meteor]

grabbers are rng if nobody stops them

[zenith ember]

OCs can only fix skill issues to a certain extent, especially if said individual cheated all the way

Which you are rolling when dealing with pubs

But mostly are competent when doing edd, knows what they are getting into from my experience

Meanwhile dd is still a mixed bag

[main parcel]

to me usually what matters if a person is just familiar with everything that's going on in the game and is respectful to other dwarfs

and that usually depends on rank a bit

usually, but not always. some selfish jerks with rank above 50 press buttons without asking anyway, which screws the team over

[dense escarp]

is it just me or is this weeks EDD so much easier than last weeks

[charred spruce]

it is easier than the last EDD by a mile

The modifiers are kind of an illusion of danger. The refineries are very near and it is a small but open cave for you to roam and finish objectives. Shield disrupt is a sucker but with critical weakness you have a better chance of surviving. Low O2 is a holdback but there is so much nitra in this EDD, by stage 3 you can have 2-3 drops per dreadnaught to make sure where you mostly go you have O2 and free ammo

[hollow citrus]

yeah, as long as you're contributing to the mission progress and aren't being dead weight I usually don't bother that much about what you're doing. especially in DDs. for buttons, no reason to stick around for too long in DDs anw, so I dont usually mind if people push it the moment it's available

[drowsy finch]

Too much morkite on EDD this week

[hollow citrus]

more-kite

[rocky holly]

people like to say lots of dumb things tbh

[brisk pagoda]

theres too many people that have used cheat engine to level up for it to be a reliable tell of experience and gamesense. ive had a few diamond to legend 3 gunners that had like 12 deaths on hazard 3 and only ever used their sheilds while resupplying, and somehow missed the resupply pod with their sheild more than once.

[rocky holly]

well its not 100 % reliable in any game, but ur still way better off with higher lvl people

[burnt sandal]

not really

[rocky holly]

are u implying that when a person starts playing drg they already reached their maximum skill potential or are negligibly close to it? or what are you hinting at

[burnt sandal]

that level is not a valuable measure for your skill

[rocky holly]

maybe the difference isnt often as stark between level 200 and 1000 but it certainly is between level 10 and 100+

and the statement "level doesnt matter" is just delusional

[cosmic wedge]

I know people like to say rank and promotion doesn't matter, but someone who's been playing longer has access to more OCs and upgrades than a fresh bronze 1. and better game sense overall as well. there are obviously exceptions but that's just what I've noticed playing a lot of pub DDs.

If I was forced to choose between a level 1 player with the correct mindset and a sufficient understanding of the game's mechanics for endgame co-op horde clearing

And a long time DRG player with every overclock unlocked and knowledge of the niche gimmicks but who spends all their time bullying haz 3 and has never touched a haz 5 after the first few times they lost

I'll pick the former

A veteran of a game like L4D or Vermintide is preferable to a scrub playing in a sandbox

[rocky holly]

if every player joining your lobby had a 10 page biography then sure you could pick like this, but ingame u can only see level

[cosmic wedge]

Sure, don't pug with a rando level 1

But premades exist for a reason

If a friend brings along a newb they know and vouches for them I'll struggle through it

[rocky holly]

I just meant to say that level is the best ingame value for determining skill without any out-of-game interactions and interrogations

and that its not as useless of a metric as people in drg constantly make it out to be

far from it

[cosmic wedge]

ofc not. all things in degrees

or, more things that not at least

[burnt sandal]

someone starting out in DRg but playing Legend in vermintide will have a solid understanding of the core concept of the game. Levels don't reflect that.

[rocky holly]

yes but if that person gets to level 100 he will be better than when he started out, you cant prove your point by saying that one level 1 player might be a god gamer

on average the higher level you are, the more skilled at the game you are

and its not negligible difference, saying otherwise would suggest theres very little room for improvement after starting the game

and as there is no ingame metric for peoples levels in vermintide, level is still the best we have

[wary turret]

Hey, kinda basic question, but in what ways does the REWARDS of deep dives differ from a few regular dives? like, what other rewards should i expect upon completing a deep dive?

I have always been confused about it and haven't deep dived because of that. I just assumed it was a harder, sorta longer mission for the same rewards as regular missions

[dusky flint]

you get weapon and cosmetic overclocks as bonus rewards

basically do them theyre worth

[burnt sandal]

it's the only way to get blank cores, weapon overclocks and cosmetic cores outside of the weekly assignment

[wary turret]

oh holy crap yeah nevermind I actually have been looking for more cosmetics

Yeah ok that makes more sense. Thanks!

[rocky holly]

you can also get blank cores by forging overclocks you already have

if you already have every weapon/cosmetic overclock

[wary turret]

ah ok cool

[brisk pagoda]

having every cosmetic will give a mineral core. only the weapon cores get converted to blanks.

[rocky holly]

mb then 🙂

[dusky sparrow]

heya, all. This has probably been asked already, but are there bunnies in deep dives?

[woeful patrol]

For the lunar event ? No

[real trench]

Whats a good driller starting build? Hes rank 12 and I have cryo cannon unlocked but no 2nd besides subata

[brisk pagoda]

31232 for ice , for subata take enough damage upgrades to hit at least 15 base damage, bring throwing axe for greande, use damage upgrade for pickaxe power attack, run 1111 for drills, and 2112 for c4, 1213 for armor

[jolly obsidian]

What secondary is best for driller? I run microwave gun because the crowd control against swarmers and the flying jellyfish bastards is fantastic but should i use the plasma one instead i keep getting OCs for it

[brisk pagoda]

22222 epc with thin containment field and energy rerouting overclock is very good for combat and has the strong utility of fast and efficient terrain carving and terraforming. its like carrying around 20 extra charges of c4, that can be used at any range.

[jolly obsidian]

Ooh i like explosives

Think i got thin containment field too ill check soon

[brisk pagoda]

tcf is the second upgrade on teir 5

[jolly obsidian]

Ah my bad i meant the energy oc

Its the one thing i get for driller on every bloody matrix core

[supple field]

31232 for ice
This still work for haz5 and such? Don't have any good ocs to use, so just wanted to look into it

[brisk pagoda]

yeah. unlike health and damage, temperature scaling is exactly the same on every difficulty and player count.

[supple field]

awesome

[coral pond]

why are you going freezing power in tier 1 if you're not also going freezing power in tier 4? 8 and 9 freezing power are practically the same, 10 is the breakpoint

[buoyant wing]

freezing power is a meme, embrace cold radiance

[lime meteor]

10 freezing power overrated as well especially for what it competes with

[gentle path]

Open deep dove if anyone wants to join

[thorn jewel]

#lfg-steam might get more people

[gentle path]

Oh yea. Lol

[scenic jetty]

finished edd. we all got down at the second stage except scout doing zig zags till he got us all back up

[fossil dew]

[gray hemlock]

thinking of playing scout for the first time on this edd

biozone with refinery and salvage for stages 1 and 2 seem like good, open cave gen for scout to thrive in

elim is a little more scuffed but I have aise so shouldn't be too bad

[dense escarp]

honestly youll need driller for refinery

[gray hemlock]

I’ll likely be playing roulette with randoms joining me so hoping I got a driller for that

[dense escarp]

yeah

i think my driller for this week was competent

whole team was good, really

also its super easy compared to last week so

[languid estuary]

is jet fuel any good

for hurricane

wrong channel, oops

[gray hemlock]

I managed last week’s so this one should be a walk in the park then

[dense escarp]

yeah

last week a scout hard carried us

[trail pivot]

same in my group

for all the trash talking engineer did

[dense escarp]

lol

[trail pivot]

I also looked the sharpest too

modded yule suit is too good to take off

[toxic quartz]

Elite deep dive was so relaxed compared to last one, I'm just a 1 star bronze scout and sure, got downed a lot, but it was a breeze, didn't even go past 400 nitra

[tired quiver]

Question.

Are rewards the same for both EDD and DD?

[burnt sandal]

yes

[tired quiver]

But can you get two clean over locks?

[burnt sandal]

each set of reward is separate from each other

[tired quiver]

Okay thanks.

[burnt sandal]

When i said it"s the same, I meant you get the exact same things at the same stage : stage 1 is blank core, stage 2 is weapon overclock and stage 3 is cosmetic core

[tired quiver]

Ohh so I get two different weapon over locks? See I thought that was the case.

Thank you very much.

[burnt sandal]

👍

have fun

[pure roost]

I'm gonna give deep dive another shot, this time I'm playing the Gunner.

[woeful patrol]

I may be late but good luck

[royal ruin]

Haunted, Shield and Oxygen. That's like Top 1, 2, 3 to worst mutators

[severe tusk]

Low O2 is the only one that I have a problem with, since it shackles you to an extent.

[vestal rain]

my first ever o2 was on a refinery mission with refinery being stuck deep in a hole

[fleet stream]

ok the edd was quite nice
worst mutators ever but the cave layout was surprisingly nice even for a gunner
stage 1 has a bagillion lootbugs and that alone is around 250 nitra
stage 2 has some more and a lot of naedoctytes
stage 3 has 150 morkite in the first 2 rooms and 2 flat areas to fight the dreads in, and a lot of naedoctytes

[honest root]

I was doing the EDD with one of my friends, that first stage is bloody hell

[short zephyr]

looking for team mates to do deep dive

invite posted on lfg

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[plucky bane]

😱

I just did my first edd and got 50 minutes and damn it was hard

[supple field]

good builds for hyper propellant pgl and breach cutter (please recommend OC cause idk what to pick) for haz5/dd/edd?

[untold saddle]

On pgl hyper prop I use 21112.

[vital grail]

What's a deep dive

[untold saddle]

In tier 4 you can also take the stun mod if you don't like the rng

[untold saddle]

Once you have a promoted dwarf you can do a deep dive. It's 3 missions after another with 2 main objectives

The deepdive terminal is in the spacerig infront of the window

[supple field]

what I thought to use yeah

cool thanks

[untold saddle]

Every OC for breachcutter is good. Spinning dead and roll control are a bit hard to use though. A generic build that should work for most OC's is 13122

Tier 2 ammo bags and tier 5 tri-split line are also solid picks

[supple field]

awesome thanks for the info

[coral pond]

Sure every oc is ok but honestly there's no reason to not use inferno if you have it

[pseudo hawk]

what this week deep dive is about?

[jolly obsidian]

Check pins for the deep dive

.

[pseudo hawk]

ohhhh u guys pin dat?

[jolly obsidian]

Yep each week its edited to reflect the new objectives

[pseudo hawk]

didnt know im new

ty sir

[jolly obsidian]

Yea all good bro good luck in the mines

[lean knot]

Just tried the EDD solo my first solo deep dive the o2 dreadnought was to much for me on my driller.

[brisk pagoda]

did you select solo, or did you just go in alone with public or private selected? because dreads get a seperate ai and scaling specifically only in solo mode, which isnt the same as being alone in a party match.

[burnt sandal]

it makes no difference

the only difference between solo and party is the ability to pause the game when hitting ESC

and when using Ansel

[lean knot]

I wanted to try and solo it so I went in a solo lobby. I was using face melter on the flamethrower and subata. I just felt like posting here for my first time i felt accomplished i got two stages done.

[burnt sandal]

you probably had the worst class and weapon to deal with dreads (but at least not the worst flamer build )

[lean knot]

Yea i went in blind if i had known i would have taken something else

[brisk pagoda]

dreads massively massively resist fire. and they are completely immune to being ignited and massively resist ground fire. do not bring flamethrower for them like ever. if you want a good option for direct damage use ice storm with damage upgrade and cold radiance.

[lean knot]

I may try that tomorrow i have it. i just started last month so i dont have many good oc's

[burnt sandal]

heh, it's doable with the flamer, it just takes a lot longer

[brisk pagoda]

flamethrower didnt used to be so bad against them. they decided to make fire absolutely worthless against them the same patch that they super buffed gunner's fire overclock for bulldog. but then they also made him completely immune to being ignited so like i dont get it.

even back when you could burn them, ice storm was still better dps than face melter so its not like flamethrower was overpowered or something

[burnt sandal]

there was no changes regarding dread's resistance to fire damage outside of the resistance to the slow

[brisk pagoda]

fighting a dread now with flamethrower is significantly worse than it was during update 32

[burnt sandal]

the update you're talking about was U34, and it touched nothing regarding dreadnoughts :
https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Update_34:_Modest_Expectations

The introduction of new dreadnoughts was in U33, and it didn't change resistances outside of making it thaw faster when frozen. It "just" got a HP buff and better AI.
https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Update_33:_New_Frontiers

driller probably had it harder before because no OCs, or worse version of facemelter before U34.

[frail mesa]

bruh, just lost connection as the drop pod was coming down on the last mission of the elite deep dive

fucking bulllllshit

if you lose connection it should just boot you to solo or something

is there any reason to like

actually do it again?

[burnt sandal]

to get the cosmetic core I suppose

[frail mesa]

oh just a cosmetic core?

[burnt sandal]

yeah

[frail mesa]

yeah nah lmao

the elite wasnt that bad but honostly not worth doing all again for just a cosmetic core

[brisk pagoda]

the shell gained fire and explosion resistance (you used to be able to take huge chunks out of the shell or just outright delete it with c4 depending on upgrades and difficulty), and the shell regrows faster, and he gets immune frames when it regrows, and the hp scaling became much higher on haz 5. all of that combined made flamethrower total trash against him. fighting a classic dread now with flamethrower you gotta fight it on like hazard 2 if you want it to compare to what it used to be on 5.

[burnt sandal]

and the shell regrows faster, and he gets immune frames when it regrows, and the hp scaling became much higher on haz 5
I don't see why it's particularly bad for flamer specifically here.

The shell always had those resistances. The only difference was the HP scaling.

“Sticky Flame Slowdown” mod no longer slows the Dreadnought down to a crawl, it’s still effective just not as extreme
this right there was the only direct change regarding dreads against the flamethrower.

[waxen terrace]

sludge is a better boskiller option tbh since dreads do not resist corrosion and it slows them down

[leaden steeple]

volatile impact mixture ftw

[hollow citrus]

sludge blast is a dread killer, i should test it against caretaker

[buoyant wedge]

Initial presumption regarding sludge blast vs caretaker is that you’ll still need to hit the vulnerable spots with it, because caretaker outright ignores damage to anywhere that isn’t vulnerable, even with weapons that normally pierce or ignore indestructible armor, such as the coilgun

[hushed sequoia]

now that you say that

caretaker being a huge nemesis you could damage from anywhere to break off armor and reveal weakpoints would be cool

[tulip idol]

dreads do resist corrosion and do resist corrosive slowdowns, it's just that corrosion has more slowdown in total and dreads resist it slightly less than fire

[hollow citrus]

wonder if there are any good driller builds for caretaker/edds with sabo. most of the primaries feel useless in that fight

[tulip idol]

ice storm on top is the best one

you freeze caretaker and you melt it very quickly

I probably don't even need c4s at this point if engi can build me a bridge to climb a pyramid every time

vim/sludge blast should be good as well, you also better go on top and wipe all vents real quick, then dance on top of Vault to destroy eyes

ice spear is effective but costs a lot

vim should be better than sludge blast since iirc it has greater corrosive part in it than Blast

and caretaker is very weak to corrosion

facemelter should be somewhat decent as well

[woeful patrol]

Versus the caretaker, I always bring the flamethrower build around dealing fire as fast as possible in order to insta-kill the robots
The only part where I struggle is with the caretaker itself but still doable

[sly vapor]

drillers on industrial sabotage when i show them the c4 ceiling trick

[vagrant cipher]

you can freeze the caretaker?

[lone zodiac]

mouse slipped off resup, lost us the mission

argghhhhhh

anyone else finding the DD a bit tough?

[sick basalt]

hello fellow miners! would anyone like to join me in my first deep dive?

if anyone would like to join me i'll be in pod 17!

[random rampart]

#lfg-steam

[waxen terrace]

technically yes but the freeze status wont show in the hp bar

[south oak]

DD isn't tough

its just haz 3.5

ask a greybeard to join and you'll get carried with no problem whatsoever

[sly vapor]

DDs are for speedrunning

[cursive stag]

I usually solo all DDs and elite DDs because I can get them done faster having bosco instead of a team

though this weeks elite DD was stupid easy for some reason

I thought the regular DD was actually harder than the elite

for the elite I didnt even use a resupply until stage 3 lol

but for the regular, bogs + exploders and bogs + shield disrupt definitely makes it easier to get caught in a bad position

because of the environ-stun and confined spaces

[frail mesa]

Yeah the EDD wasnt bad tbh, was my first EDD

played gunner with neurotoxin autogun and just sorta chilled, dont think i even went down until the low oxy stage

granted that was my first time doin g a low oxy mission

might have went down once during shield disruption

since there was a lot of shockers iirc

[tawny gazelle]

deep dive was pain

1:14:58

[gray hemlock]

Beat the edd earlier with some randos, stage 3 was the most annoying but didn’t feel like I’d fail

Low o2 and hiveguard/twins when no one in the group brought dread damage was pain

[lone zodiac]

anyone about to start regular DD?

[fathom spade]

Try asking in #lfg-steam

Or the channel that has whatever platform you play

[lone zodiac]

we have a 2 man team, scout and gnner

[lone zodiac]

managed to do it

[west tiger]

First elite deep dive today. under 45, tbh I didnt even look at the time

No deaths too, was pretty smooth

[vale lintel]

what a hellish EDD

[hollow citrus]

dd and edd this week are pretty easy

[tulip idol]

eventually with cold radiance

[lime meteor]

lol

[foggy iron]

this weeks EDD is the easiest ive seen

[potent flume]

honestly, yeah.

[lime meteor]

Nope

[potent flume]

i soloed with what, 2 downs

im rank 30

[lime meteor]

Rank don't matter rlly

[clever mason]

I did this weeks EDD today and my internet went down in the last 2 seconds outside the pod of round 3.

[lime meteor]

k

[quick compass]

How well does carpet bomber perform in edd? Dont got payload so im tryna make the ac work

[lost wing]

It'll have no single target but it'll shred through big swarms. You might want a secondary that can deal with the bigger threats though. My personal favourites are BRT7 with Lead Spray OC or Armskore with Mole OC.

[quick compass]

gunners secondaries tend to be perfect for single targets so im not worried about that

[lost wing]

Then you're probably good. Tho if you have an OC called Splintering Shells, I'd recommend using that since it works similarly to Carpet Bomber with slightly less AoE but no single target damage penalty.

[quick compass]

well, with both carpet and splintered i tend to use the same amount of shots per small cluster of bugs so this difference is mute to me

no point in having good single target when the rest of the swarm take the same ammo anyway

honestly those two are basically the same oc to me with just a slight difference in focus

[lost wing]

I still prefer the benefits of Splintering cause AC just has so much ammo, it's nice to have the flexibility to use it anywhere. But hey, if you prefer Carpet and it works for you, that's cool too

[quick compass]

yeah neither is really better than the other imo, i just have more fun with carpet.

just wondering how it stacked up in higher haz, been playing the game for a bit now but not super long so theres a lot of builds im not privy to

[lost wing]

Technically speaking, nothing beats neurotoxin (except big bertha, but that's a single target focused OC), but I have seen people have a lot of success with all AC overclocks. It's just a good gun in general, even without an OC

The sheer ammo pool is just 😩 👌

[lime meteor]

hurricane

Just use that

[quick compass]

ammo plus steady aoe is pretty good yeah, i prefer using the minigun for single target but yeah big bertha can be fun for ac.

[lime meteor]

nah ntp is cheap asf

like at least 2nd most broken oc in the game

But its 1st place in braindead af

[quick compass]

doesnt matter if an oc is cheap, just gotta kill them bugs dead

the deader the better

[severe tusk]

Big Bertha is my favored AC OC.

[lime meteor]

But I can have fun and kill bugs

not just kill bugs

[quick compass]

right now if im not rockin the leadstrorm im using the carpet bomber or fragment hurricane

[plucky bane]

"efficiency is fun"
~ Factorio Player

[lime meteor]

fragment hurricane is really good

It's basically carpet bomber 2.0

[quick compass]

fun is FUN! - dwarf fortress player

[plucky bane]

losing is fun

[brazen walrus]

Welp, I attempted to solo Elite deep dive but I couldn't dig a tunnel or a path to pumpjack while ghost bulk detonator is chasing me.

[brisk pagoda]

stand at the pump and have it dig for you

[plucky bane]

my 2nd run we just went around it

the wall

[lime meteor]

actually not a bad strat but I play driller everytime I have to solo refinery so

[ionic torrent]

How much gold is in this weeks EDD, trying to see if a pots would be worth it or if I should just go RRB or Slayer

[nova hearth]

dark morkite stonks

[jolly kindle]

ayo where can i find the deep dive missions?

like the logs

[stuck burrow]

pinned msg

[jolly kindle]

nvm me

[quick compass]

quick questiorony. what do ya'll prefer to usually do with minelayer hurricane, tier 5 upgrade stun or napalm to combo with volatile boolets

[fleet stream]

stun gives it even better CC imho as you can stop beefy targets like guards and praetorians

and generally slow down bugs further

[lime meteor]

minelayers mines do so much damage you can use it as your single target it's crazy, so you don't need volatile bullets and just run stun so you can have stopping power combined with op damage

[quick compass]

sure sure, but its more fun when both guns work together in synergy,. that being said i guess its the perfect build to try the coil gun.......which doesnt sound appealing after a hundred hours of yeehaw revolver, but hey lezdoit

[stuck pine]

hows this week DD

[hollow patio]

fun and pretty easy

just a lot of dread fights

and I got a few bulks

[austere dust]

I am running minelayer with The Mole on secondary, seems a reasonable combo

Kinda boring though

Minelayer, that is

[quick compass]

im sure after hundreds of hours the game starts to get pretty monotonous.....like most games that arent essentially just procedural generated books like dwarf fortress. would be cool to see some PRETTY drastic modifyers/game modes that are suuuuper diffeent from the norm that make you think about which oc you wanna take....more so than you already do. BUT,. im not there yet, im still havung a blast exploring the game

no game is forever

how doable is it to solo an elite deep dive

[pastel sorrel]

llllllllllllllllllllll

[old widget]

Not significantly worse than solo haz5, on average. Some combos of objectives can be rough, but always doable

[quick compass]

solid

[cunning thistle]

very easy. 3 dreads though

[cunning thistle]

there is the mission content randomiser mod that adds like 40 modifiers, enemies and a bossfight

Here https://mod.io/g/drg/m/mission-content-randomizer

[plucky bane]

not enough

we need more

[quick compass]

its....ok i guess

doesnt change the game much, but its still a nice option to have

[burnt sandal]

it's just one mod mod out of hundreds

[spiral tapir]

Elite DD this week pretty easy, glad i got to take someone through it for their first EDD

about 40 minutes too, they were a greeat teammate

[cobalt moat]

new missions would be cool

[plucky bane]

fr

[quasi monolith]

Scout+bosco is so OP. I just did whole elite deep dive solo and if not for the modification "without shields" it would be extremely easy

[blissful talon]

gg

[lone zodiac]

Are you sure you're doing the same DD? We died in a 4 man team

[lone zodiac]

I hope it was me, that was a good dive

[hollow patio]

yeah

but deep dives for me and my friends are easy

[lone zodiac]

If you have a dedicated group and aren't doing a public lobby, I'm sure it'd be a lot easier

when you run an EDD or DD again after running it the first time in the week, do you still get the cores and stuff?

[coral pond]

No, only a first clear gets you the cores

[zinc star]

someone ping me when my lifeline comes back online

woops wrong chat

[vernal harness]

Dang 3 mins too slow for 45 min DD solo :p

[frozen quest]

this week's EDD 🥱

[lone zodiac]

It's fun

[coral pond]

@brazen rain when tf'd you start playing drg?

[brazen rain]

Novemberish

[coral pond]

nice. Guess monster hunter running is over then

[urban tiger]

what are the stages in the current elite deep dive?

nvm, found it

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[zealous pumice]

.

[cobalt moat]

Industrial Sabotage let's goooo

[night sparrow]

Let's Fucking goooooo

[lime meteor]

🙏

[vital grail]

hi, i just promoted and want to do the deep dive, is there anything i should know beforehand?

[scenic jetty]

Get use to Haz 5 diff

[burnt sandal]

nothing specific, outside of knowing what's the hazard level for each stage on both DD

[vital grail]

is there a way to set my lobby name

[burnt sandal]

in the option

[vital grail]

okidoki

[cobalt moat]

Check the pinned post for mission details before going in blind so you can get appropriate gear for stuff

[burnt sandal]

[vital sluice]

You keep your nitra, ammo, health, and minerals between stages, but all your perks (even consumable ones) and BOSCO revives get refreshed

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[frail charm]

lets hope for triple industrial sabotage

on both DDs

and industrial sabotage secondary objective for all of em

[lost heart]

whats this weeks edd?

[hazy lily]

Pins

[jolly obsidian]

I reckon all we need is a triple industrial sabotage in magma core with glyphid dreadnought cocoons as a secondary and the modifiers low o2 first, rival presence second and shield disruption third

[coral pond]

That'll be the lowest played dd/edd of all time probably

[errant osprey]

what is the edd third reward

managed to get to last stage but died with my friend near the end

[austere dust]

Cosmetic OC

[errant osprey]

yea but wich one to be precise

[austere dust]

It’s random for each person, you don’t all get the same

[errant osprey]

oh damm never knew that

[half ermine]

inb4 salvage 3 mini mules & 1 dread +haunted cave

[errant osprey]

well shit

[austere dust]

All OC acquisition is random (apart from your choice of which char and type with stuff like forge level ups and core infusers) - same with lost packs and cargo crates..l game gives you something from the pool of stuff you don’t have, basically

[lime meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/672101576223096832.gif?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[hollow citrus]

wonder what we get this week

[worldly creek]

if i have a weekly core assignment active, can i still receive next weeks?

[distant peak]

do i still get rewards for a deep dive if i have to leave

[fleet mauve]

only for levels you've cleared

[night sparrow]

Can't wait for another 5,5 Industrial sabotage

[plucky bane]

I think you mean sextuple sabo on both

[deft holly]

i would rather french kiss a rat than do haz 5.5 shield disruption sabotage

[sly kettle]

Be careful what you wish for. It's reset day, afterall.

[fleet stream]

Please no Hollow Bough I want to be able to see

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone.

[grave narwhal]

Good luck, fellas. 🙂

[fossil tulip]

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[novel breach]

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Scout's Face
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + Dreadnought Twins | Rival Presence
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Classic + Hiveguard) + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Critical Weakness
Stage 3: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 150 Morkite | Swarmageddon

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Pale Bed
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Classic) + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Critical Weakness Rival Presence
Stage 2: Refine Liquid Morkite + 2 Eggs | No Mutators
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + Recover Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster

[sly kettle]

Name a more iconic duo that morkite and azure weald.

[fossil tulip]

Twins for first stage normal dd

[burnt sandal]

dystrum and azure weald

[radiant nymph]

Rival presence 😭

[tulip summit]

Terminal says I get new deep dives in -6 minutes, can't wait

[burnt sandal]

restart your game

[tulip summit]

Sure, but first, breakfast

[gusty grotto]

EDD stage 1 other dread is classic

[restive elk]

Scout's Face

[balmy axle]

oh so NOW you aren't scouting them

figures

[fossil tulip]

DD Stage 2: 2 Dreads + 2 Mules w/ Crit weakness

[balmy axle]

crit weakness moment

[zenith ember]

Crit + dreads wow

[balmy axle]

does nothing

[fossil tulip]

Dread 1 is Classic

[restive elk]

"what about second EDD stage 1?"

[novel breach]

same as the edd stage 1?

[gusty grotto]

EDD Stage 2: Refine liquid morkite + collect 2 alien eggs + no modifiers

[balmy axle]

can you post a picture of the map so i know if i have to be driller or not

[fossil tulip]

Dread 2 is Hiveguard

[fossil tulip]

DD Stage 3: 2 Mules + 150 Morkite w/ Swamageddon

Glad I had Dark morkite for this

🙏

[austere dust]

Code name: scout’s face

[gusty grotto]

EDD stage 3: collect 200 morkite + recover 1 blackbox + cave leech cluster

[fossil tulip]

Sandblasted and layout doesn't require Driller

[hollow citrus]

no sabo nice

[gusty grotto]

This weeks deep dives are easily speedrunnable

I managed to do EDD in 35 mins and DD in 32 mins with a full team. Definitely much more fun imo than having 2 sabotages together

[gusty grotto]

all the pumpjacks are in places where you dont need a driller + its sandblast corridors you can just 1 hit terrain

[radiant nymph]

Ill still play driller and act like im useful besides killing shit

🈷️

[lone zodiac]

boy do I love scouts face lol

[lone silo]

monday

[woeful patrol]

Huh, this EDD seems easy

Did IS quit ?

[nova hearth]

power stations need charging

[half ermine]

i finished dd stage 2 in like 15 minutes and i was taking my sweet time

easily speedrunnable dd

[gusty grotto]

Yeah it really is

In my run on EDD stage 3 we all activated blackbox when there was already an ongoing swarm lol.

[honest root]

Oh it's a black box? Damn I'm screwed, solo gunner

[woeful patrol]

NTP + Fear

[honest root]

I use lead storm with stun

[marsh quest]

Scout’s face 💀

[frozen quest]

dope no IS

gonna be ez clap

[honest root]

Happy it's not a haunted cave this time around

[frozen quest]

dude haunted zZzZz

annoying little shitter

[honest root]

I don't like the ghost twat

[frozen quest]

honestly

most annoying thing in the entire game

can't even yeet yourself past him with dash cuz insane range

[gusty grotto]

the more annoying thing is when youre at the drop pod waiting for molly and the game decides to spawn a det under your feet

[frozen quest]

outskilled

clapped

skill issue

etc etc

you know the rest

[gusty grotto]

and for that reason alone I dont hug the drop pod anymore

[frozen quest]

why would you even wait at the drop pod

it's always risky af

4 people close to each other

fighting the final zergrush, how many times have people died this way

I go to some open area near the pod and then dash yeet as soon as its open

[gusty grotto]

Nothing happens 99% of the time but when the game spawns a deto its annoying

[hoary viper]

This week's edd was kinda easy fr

[south oak]

EDD and DD finished

[marble token]

as long as u get enough nitra

[zenith ember]

open areas + sandblasted = ez edd

[vagrant silo]

i solo'd EDD, was fun

[lone silo]

You can stand by where the MULE inserts and you get the Drop Pod damage resist

[hollow citrus]

another easy week honestly

[cunning walrus]

DD super easy

[candid wigeon]

I love the challenge, personally, makes yiu think before you do something, go somewhere

[sly drift]

nah fuck haunted

it doesnt make you think that much honestly you just gotta pull it away from whatever you gotta grab

[marble token]

haunted is hell in solo

with more people its fine

[candid wigeon]

Everything is "just simply doing stuff" if you look at it that way..

[marble token]

as long as the stuff is fun

and if its too simple, there's always higher difficulty

[candid wigeon]

well yeah that's what i am sayin - it is pretty fun (imo)

[soft prairie]

Haunted isn't the worst unless it's an on site or point extraction, only other worse one is low O2 or shield disruption on either, then that's just sad

[frozen quest]

ayo what really

gonna test it tonight

do 4 people fit in there tho

[shell rock]

I love the current run’s name.

Scout’s Face: ‘This is some leaf-loving bullshit right here.’

Sounds like someone doesn’t like him.

[marble token]

as I scout name I find this offensive
getting c4'ed is alright but this?

[ebon anchor]

wow

just had 2 dets on uplink on edd

that was a first for me in 600 hours

thanks gunner carry to kill them so fast

[lone silo]

You can ledge grab there from jumping unto the deposit slot but it is very small

[severe current]

I realize it's only been a few hours, but how's the regular DD in terms of nitra?

[dense escarp]

new DDs and EDDs?

[severe current]

Yup, every Thursday. Check the pins.

[dense escarp]

alright

[zenith ember]

Both have more than enough for you to go wild

Shouldnt be running out of nitra at all

[scarlet pike]

Yay no shield disruption this week

[dusky flint]

easiest EDD of my life

[hollow citrus]

funny thing is, the amount of turrets in rival presence seem way fewer than before

even for the edd

[flint trellis]

First time doing DD straight after first promo, took exactly an hour to get thru the 3 missions w/ engi, the reward seems... Lackluster?

Think I'm supposed to do something with the blank matrix core

[hollow citrus]

yeah infuse them for overclocks

there is no reason to do DDs other than for overclocks (or just for the gameplay)

[coarse dew]

at at machine event

[flint trellis]

I ain't got enuf resources to craft em all :sadness:

[lone monolith]

get back in the pod

[gusty grotto]

I just get blank matrix cores from the DDs now

[lone monolith]

tutorial complete

[feral arch]

did they reset the deep dive?

the elite one

[burnt sandal]

they reset both dives every week, so yes

[feral arch]

ik that

but after the reset today the edd was in sandblasted first and know its in dense biozone

[burnt sandal]

sync your system clock

[feral arch]

my clock is synced

and the other one is in fungus bogs

i think i jzst have the wrong deep dives for some reason

[burnt sandal]

using any mods ?

[feral arch]

yes

only performance stuff though

and health numbers

[burnt sandal]

then I'll repeat myself : sync your system clock

[feral arch]

its synced

ill restart the game

now i have the right ones

and i can still earn the first core from the sandblasted edd even though i completed it already

guess i just got 3 extra cores

[cobalt moat]

this week's dives🥱, maybe next week we will see IS

[gray hemlock]

No sabo, W

5 total dreads is an L tho

[vapid lily]

Simply be better at killing giant insects

[cobalt moat]

just use 4 engi stack

[brisk pagoda]

4 ice storm drillers

[vague mica]

No thanks. I don't want to be friendly fired the whole DD.

[vague mica]

2 Engi, 2 Scout.

[steel python]

Could just be me, but I think the EDD might be easier than the DD this week just by objectives alone

Also funny how both have identical stage objectives with the same mutators

Almost, actually

[cobalt moat]

Nah who needs scout just cheese your way to everything

[vague mica]

It's more about the AISE, Embedded Detonators, IFGs, and Flares.

[severe tusk]

I still don't like or use the GK2, even after its buffs.

[vagrant heron]

I think you mean the aggressive venting, trifork volley, VSS, and forgetting to light the room 😤

[vague mica]

Rewiring, Fire Bolts, Chemical bolts, Phero grenade, what flare gun?

[cobalt moat]

it's all about nukes

[vague mica]

Nukes would actually do something, so no. Not a lot of something, but something.

[old siren]

4 mules, 350 morkite and one of each dreadnought

[vague mica]

Mules secondary
Mules primary

[cobalt moat]

why

[brisk spear]

mini mules the rest of salvage op

[cobalt moat]

just nuke'em

[jolly obsidian]

Salvage ops in a deep dive do not make sense
The last thing you want to be doing with a recovered pod is taking it down further instead of extracting it for repairs
Management needs that money though

[whole jasper]

Why is the weekly deep dive not pinned in the reddit?

[pulsar stream]

ilovefightingtwinsilovefightingtwinsilovefightingtwinsihatefightingtwins

[vagrant silo]

normal dread > twins > hiveguard

[pulsar stream]

we need a 4th dreadnaught

[pulsar stream]

facts though

[vagrant silo]

just give us an industrial sabotage equivalent

instead of caretaker we get to fight a fully grown dreadnought

or a queen or something

[oak lotus]

nah they should give us a rockpox dreadnought

no reason for us to not have one at this point

i hope we get one as like a season special event

also industrial sabo needs more to it than the caretaker

overall the EDD this week was pretty solid

[white osprey]

we had a nemesis and a bet-c but this was probably still the easiest edd i've ever done

[vagrant silo]

caretaker is annoying in general due to being totally immune to DoT and status effects

[vague mica]

Standing in green circle can go very badly, very quickly.

[oak horizon]

whats this weeks elite?

[novel storm]

idk

[dense escarp]

check pins

[wary marlin]

i wish i was immune to the department of transportation

[hollow citrus]

they should add rockpox bots next season

rockpox caretaker even

[gray hemlock]

this edd was easy

[quick compass]

I struggled with it the first two tomes playing with peeps on this server. Played it later with 3 randos through matchmaking and everything just clicked.

[gray hemlock]

The dreads could fuck you up but everything else was pretty easy

[quick compass]

I think the answer to this game is to never do voice chat. Only communication we need is the v key

[gray hemlock]

The nemesis on stage 1 died pretty quickly and I managed to disarm the turret controller very easily because of how much I grinded those season events back in s1/s2

[quick compass]

Yeah. Took about 15 or so min per section, just taking some time grabbing nitra

Got my 11 forges for the week. Now i just play and maybe get a few more through promos

[cobalt moat]

And ping tool, honestly I love games that doesn't need any voice chat.

[leaden steeple]

is dd or edd harder this week?

[hollow citrus]

edd is always intrinsically harder since it's fixed at a higher haz level

but overall both this week are easy

[languid estuary]

whered u get 11 lol

isnt it 9 per week, core hunt, dd, edd

[main parcel]

edd his week is easier than the regular one

DD in 49 minutes and felt like it was faster, EDD in 38 and in 3-man-squad and felt like it was way too long

[fringe thistle]

you also get a refresh of core hunt event every time you promote, so if you play enough that adds more

[languid estuary]

ya ik

[dense escarp]

this week's EDD is pretty easy

managed to pull through with 3 people

our engi got kicked for some reason

[young yew]

Played this week's DD this morning. Got in with three guys. They leave after a couple mins for some reason. I try to solo it and almost make it, but get lost with 60 Mork short. I give up after 90mins looking for it. I'm Engi and it's frickin dark in there, and every couple mins I get a rival incursion or swarm.

Trying a second time, I hit Join instead of Host. I'm in a team with 7 Chinese guys. We smash all three rounds in 44mins 😂

[fringe thistle]

damn chinese hackers getting an 8 dwarf team

[young yew]

Yeah, was pretty straightforward

[young yew]

I don't know how that happened

[fringe thistle]

lmao

wait yall had 8 dwarves for the mission?

[young yew]

But it was fun

[dense escarp]

probably one of those mods

[young yew]

Yeah 😂

[fringe thistle]

bruh

that shit sounds hectic

[dense escarp]

definitely is lmao

[young yew]

I really felt like in a highly efficient hybrid communist capitalist dwarf community 😄

[dense escarp]

the mods usually also balance around the fact that theres 8 dwarves

[fringe thistle]

ah

also the lack of resupplying

[young yew]

The dreadnoughts took very long to kill. But resupplies were abundant

I guess there was also some kind of Nitra injection going on

I'm not familiar with mods

A real romp

Needless to say, I still don't know where I missed the patch of Morkite

I thought the treasure room had enough to make sure you get through. But then again, maybe I didn't find the treasure room in first place 😂

[languid estuary]

i did one with like 30 once

literally couldnt fit in the drop pod

[young yew]

😂 😂 😂

[fleet mauve]

rando's cryo canno + my hyperprop pgl = dreadnoughts evaporated
never disrespected a dreadnought more in my life

[woeful patrol]

You could have done it more easily with Critical Weakness (Frozen enemies don't take weak point damage)

[fleet mauve]

that makes it sound like mutators are something I can control
also I didn't know that

[woeful patrol]

Well, the dreadnought fight in DD and EDD have critical weakness, that's why I said it

[fleet mauve]

really? didn't notice for dd

guess the edd will be real easy this week

[woeful patrol]

My bad, I didn't see that the first stage of the DD had a dreadnought for the secondary mission so no Critical weakness here but at the second stage of the DD, it's there

[fleet mauve]

come to think of it I killed the 2nd stage hiveguard with 3 shots

[woeful patrol]

Yeah, hyper prop + critical weakness is lethal lol

[languid estuary]

man i suck at scout so bad

[modern dock]

when do I get new weapons for scout?

[austere dust]

If you look in your assignment terminal, you will see the levels at which various assignments unlock, including the ones to unlock various guns

[modern dock]

Kk

[open tide]

Same

When I play Scout I just light stuff up and mine, that's about it. I can barely solo hazard 3

When I play other classes I can even solo EDD sometimes, but I suck at Scout

[woeful patrol]

Do you have some OCs on Scout ? There is some pretty good build for Scout in order to solo hard EDD

[quick compass]

Ai stability engine is solid single target damage

[flint falcon]

i'd say honestly just being good about mining nitra, using your mobility to help with objectives, and being cognizant about light is a lot of value already. For fighting the main thing that's really helped me stay alive longer is using the grapple hook constantly, especially as a first response panic tool like how the gunner would throw down his shield in a pinch

the grapple hook is reaaally good

[open tide]

I'm using the sniper rifle (hipster OC), and the pistols, with that OC that shoots mines and you can detonate by reloading

[open tide]

Staying alive is not the problem, it's killing. I know the Scout is not supposed to be killing as much as the gunner and the engineer but still, a lot of times when I play this class my team dies because they get overwhelmed by bugs

I'm usually the last one to die, yes, but doesn't change the fact everybody is dying a lot and I kinda feel like it's my fault in the end, I just don't know if I'm killing enough

Next time I play Scout I'll take a screenshot at the end of the mission and show you the numbers

[desert tartan]

Wait, am I being dumb by Solo-ing with Scout?

[old widget]

Sometimes it’s not about how much you kill, but /what/ you kill. Good scouts often scan for, ping, and pick off high value targets, protecting the team from that menace or spitter or trijaw while they’re down on the ground fighting the masses

And a well placed/timed IFG or cryo grenade can neutralize a big chunk of a swarm, preventing the team from getting surrounded

[charred spruce]

I find myself soloing with scout. My cryo grenades are for oppressors which let me kill them instantly, the shotgun dedicated to large targets and the plasma carbine has impact deflection with splash rounds to deal with swarms of grunts. So ye you can solo with scout well.

And you don't really need the same things to have a chance to solo. You can just run other weapons and solo too. But it seems like it is best to be quick on foot

[woeful patrol]

Absolutely not, I find it way easier to do the EDD solo and with any class

[woeful patrol]

Your build is good tho, maybe you need more practice with him, it will come with time, don't worry, Rock & Stone

[open tide]

Rock and Stone, brotha!

[honest root]

anyone know where the black box is on the 3rd stage of the EDD?

I'm unable to find it

[untold saddle]

Last room

Surrounded by some stone pillars

https://youtu.be/h4tb_Y-ZVCs?t=3383 Here's it in the dev stream. If you're playing on console it might be in a different spot though.

[honest root]

thank you

still can't find it

[untold saddle]

Are you on steam version?

[honest root]

yes

[untold saddle]

And in the last room?

[honest root]

yup

[untold saddle]

Can you send a screenshot of where it should be as seen in the dev stream?

[honest root]

one second in the middle of what? the fifth swarm?

[untold saddle]

?

[honest root]

trying to get an angle for it

i dont have image perms

[untold saddle]

Send it in #drg-gallery

Oh you dm'd it

can you see it on the terrain scanner?

If you're playing modded it might also mess with the terrain gen

[gentle path]

anyone up for ab elite deep dive?

[sour oyster]

I did my first deep dive

[lavish dirge]

hows the edd this week

[coral pond]

easy

[dawn patrol]

i just unlocked deep dives and im confused why some of the lobbies in the basic deep dives are unjoinable?

[main parcel]

Unlike pubs, you can't join DD lobbies that have already started. Which also means that if you host, you'd better wait for the full team to join, bc no one will join on the fly

[coral pond]

so many fucking webspitters on edd stage 3 lmao

[unkempt lava]

looking for two players for the deep dives, in pod 5

[young dune]

I've never done a deep dive, but I've been playing lots of Haz3 missions! 😄

Any takers? (lol) I have a mic and will use

[balmy flame]

I still don't really get it uhh

do deep dives have the same cave gen every time?

[buoyant wing]

yes, the only difference between dives are some very small details between solo and multi

like spawns and such

i.e. a bet-c may show up in multi but not single

[charred spruce]

Deep dive has the same seed, enemy presence and mineral positions in a given week. As in the enemies that are already there (like spitballs and cave leeches, and already spawned enemies) will be in the same position every time. Only differences you may ever notice are small like oppressors or detonators spawning.

ON another note this deep dive was okai but rougher than last because of sandblasted corridors just doing its thing while I am in the middle of swarms ;-;

[balmy flame]

dam thats pretty cool

[sweet blaze]

me once again thanking god for the random dread on level 2 on EDD

[astral glen]

did you ever find a group to do the Deep Dive with?

[fleet mauve]

almost threw an edd picking a pretty bad loadout, then accidentally plasma bursting a teammate as he went to revive then dying
at least iron will has clutch potential

[woeful patrol]

Are you Nemesis ?

[slate wagon]

if you haven't done it yet, I'm on my way home from a ski trip so I'll be on in about an hour to an hour and a half

I also have a friend or two who might be on at that time as well, plus it looks like neighthanael was offering earlier as well

[pliant pond]

hello guys

i'm looking for one person from poland to play

[lapis ridge]

Unlike with regular missions, you cannot join group if deep dive have already started. Too deep to join

[cobalt moat]

Give me drill fuel and let me dig then, nothing is too deep for my drills

[turbid sapphire]

just go down the entry hole smh

[young dune]

Yes I’m game! Although it’ll have to wait an hour for me. @astral glen would you be like to combine groups to show off a deep dive? 💪

[astral glen]

I can be around in an hour to play and do a Deep Dive! Just message/ping me when you're ready 🙂

[dawn patrol]

tyty

[young dune]

pinging! 😄

[astral glen]

nice! I'm just helping some fine folks with an achievement but I can join you soon!

[young dune]

Mmk, I'll just hang out

[astral glen]

let's jump in Pod 12?

[marble gull]

just did an elite deep dive for the first time

was not too bad honestly

[turbid plover]

I might try that later

[wraith shard]

I’m nervous to try one, I’m afraid of the commitment and sucking lol

[thorn jewel]

won't learn it til you try it 🙂

[wooden herald]

honestly if you can do haz5 missions consistently the EDD is usually fine, good way to practice

[wraith shard]

True that, I might give it a shot tomorrow

[thorn jewel]

but yeah, the haz5 comfortability is the best advice

[wraith shard]

Well, honestly I’m still a little uncomfortable at haz 5, I’m at that weird place where haz 4 is just routine but haz 5 still kinda sets my hair on fire

[thorn jewel]

you should be okay then, it might take a couple tries though if everyone is at that experience level

[wooden herald]

i was the same way for quite a while, honestly the jump isnt that bad

[wraith shard]

I’m just gonna send it tomorrow and see what happens I think.

[wraith shard]

Okay I’m glad to hear that, I’ve sat at that terminal now for a couple weeks always leaving it undone

[scenic jetty]

Is dd doable while being drunk?

[jolly obsidian]

Anything is possible under the influence of alcohol

[wraith shard]

It is lol for my evidence, see me last weekend lol

[scenic jetty]

Hehe

[real trench]

For someone wanting to get into deep dives where is the best place to find good solid builds for each class that doesnt have OCs?

[leaden thicket]

if my friend has only promoted one class, is that the only class they can bring on a deep dive?

[scenic jetty]

I believe so

[jolly obsidian]

Yep gotta promote a character one time before they are eligible for deep dives

So if i have a promoted driller but a unpromoted gunner i can't take the gunner on a deep dive

[scenic jetty]

Also there isn’t a solid build for a dd. Just go with what you are comfortable since your performance and teammates are what matters.

Upgrades and OC boost ur performance. It is not a huge factor in succeeding a dd imo

[foggy iron]

the best build for a dd is the one that youre best at

[jolly obsidian]

Best build is just to melee everything with a pickaxe like karl did

[charred spruce]

No we only rock and stone here

[jolly obsidian]

Did I hear a rock and stone?

[long jacinth]

Fart

[quartz jolt]

The elite deep dive was torture

We had a driller who was messing things up, but he rage quit

[young yew]

Here on the server, because your best builds will likely be quite individual

[half ermine]

NFTs? Sounds like something a pointy-eared leaf-lover would make. No thanks! Rock and Stone!

[untold saddle]

Jesse, what the hell are you talking about?

[quasi saddle]

I cant find any server(Asia) is it because I only have Crystalline Caverns unlocked?

[untold saddle]

Everyone is having this issue right now.

[quasi saddle]

oic thanks

[hollow vessel]

has anyone had any problems with deep dives it says the data cannot be reached because of mi internet or firewall, is there anyway i can fix this

[untold saddle]

Everyone is having this issue right now
There's probably something going on at GSG

[hollow vessel]

ah ty

[limber wind]

yeah servers are down for some reason

[main relic]

yare yare daze

The only day I want deep dive since 2 month, deep dive is down 😦

no affectation as well 😭

[rotund kindle]

General QS: Yesterday me and my friends did the deep dive for the first time and we ran out of nitra before killing a dreadnought, checked every inch of the cave and nothing. is that common? should we have p pacedourselves better with supply drops? is nitra supposed to regenerate?

didn't feel very rock and stone for us

[untold saddle]

Nitra doesn't regenerate but deep dives often have a ton of nitra.

[rotund kindle]

hmmm, then it might've been bugged cause we did get that one bug where the Glyphids don't spawn and the dreadnought doesn't attack (i fixed this by riding the dreadnought and prompting an attack)

[untold saddle]

Deep dive terrain gen is the same for everyone, including nitra

only difference is between steam and console

[hardy wedge]

why did that get deleted lmao

[untold saddle]

off topic probably

[cursive cedar]

dang...server down ?

EDD not responding

[untold saddle]

#bug-discussion

[real nimbus]

are steam servers down or sum?

i really dont know how this stuff works

[next pebble]

#drg-chat

[vital terrace]

Is there something I am unaware of with the caretaker bc im doing one solo on haz 4 and I literally cant damage it

omfg you shoot under the triangles... ive been shooting the triangles this whole time....

[coarse lodge]

deep dives are back

[covert relic]

same for the servers

even though they closed the chat for no reason

[jagged plaza]

probably was a troll moment

[crisp eagle]

predicted the influx of people asking if the servers are down

[jagged plaza]

6 hours though

[torpid laurel]

now im just confused tbh

[lost jungle]

TLDR someone forgot to renew their certificate

💀

[vital terrace]

Why the fuck do hazard levels exist if I can go into a hazard 3 and literally have no less than 100 glyphids spawned at all times

[random rampart]

because spawns can go less as hazard goes down. plus as hazard goes up so do enemy damage and hp

also wrong channel

[vital terrace]

Oh shoops

[cobalt moat]

Because management wants it, we are not paid to think

[subtle crest]

Hello people I was just in a deep dive with, my power cut so I'm sorry about that

[spring cobalt]

doing this EDD solo without any AOE weapons was quite an experience

SO MANY SWARMERS

[vital terrace]

wtf is this edd even who decided they need to put every single enemy in the game in one room on the second stage