#deep-dive-discussion
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that do be true
, now i'm wondering if i should speedrun both or run it with other chads
If I could spend one error cube to change a mission on my assignments... i'd be out of error cubes
It kinda killed my enthusiasm for weekly farming
Yup it makes me want to stop playing the game if i see sabo in my missions 
So did they announced the Dive changes or nah? Because they really should
It's almost the way I felt about rival presence last season
specifically the router events
Router events kinda got rare tho or it's just me
all rival related events became rarer this season
the combo of router and prospector and spawning in a turret gank nest in every mission was unbearable
what happen? I thought deep dives resets on thursday...
Apparently they changed it, if you completed the sabo ones check again.
I just completed DD and EDD last week
router is one of the easiest events in the game tho
I hate doing it
ooh, so new day for reset? no more thursday?
Just let the driller do it, ez clear
it still resets thursday, they re rolled it early cus ppl complained about double sabo
if the connection gets broken and it isn't fixed it's over
had a driller go through the column holding the nodes one time and the hack pod was up a cliff in the next room
I see, I got no problem with sabo missions. I love industrial sabotage, make it x3 on EDD next time 😄
120 enemies on severe terrain disadvantage oof
I wouldn't mind all of the rivals content except sabotage as secondary in dives
But the failure explosion for the router should be doubled or tripled
EDD doesn't have IS(good), but is A) claustrophobic, and B) where the fuck is all the nitra
If it's claustrophobic throw some c4 make it bigger 
We didnt run into much nitra trouble but those caves were left no spot unchecked
And everyone was pretty ammo conscious the whole mission
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EDD - Nitra was very scarce in Stage 2. I think we started the last dreadnought with 62 nitra? It got kinda ugly. Stage 3 was MUCH easier by comparison. I suspect that there was some nitra in S2, but Hollow Bough is very "lumpy" and hides things.
i agree that stage 3 edd was much easier than the rest
big open area and had tons of nitra
For me what really did it for current EDD is the horrible cave generation and of course lack of nitra in the first 2 stages
I plan on maybe playing EDDs multiple times in the future but the current one feels absolutely godawful to traverse
yes, stages 1 and 2 were both horrible for us, because we never had enough nitra in either of those
at one point we were legit farming some lootbugs 😂
just finished the edd with 200 spare nitra 🤷♂️
team of 4, two people left on stage 2 for some reason
they were bronze 1 tho
EDD in general is hardest at stage 2, stage 3 usually is a breeze somehow
edd stage 1 is so hard this week
Yeah, the ammo situation in Stage 1 EDD was rough.
literally just played DD with the most efficient team of dwarves I've ever played with
holy hell we were in and out, maybe 35 minutes at best
36:50
pretty good time well done
I tried out EDD with my Gunner, and while for the most part swarms weren't too much an issue - the navigating the world aspect was much more difficult. I didn't particularly run from danger (Even though exploders popping out of nowhere and moving what feels like 3 times as fast is a lot to take in) In the end I couldn't make it - because without enough skill it's hard to use your time efficiently to complete tasks between swarms.
Just sort of run out of ammo, and have no time to get more ammo - so you're dead in the water eventually.
You have more than enough ammo as gunner and if you were playing solo there would have easily been enough nitra for resupply and if you optimize your time well you have plenty of time to do everything you need to do to win. Navigating that map as gunner would be more painful than scout or driller for sure tho.
less painful than driller imo cause ziplines
anyone else having horrendous rubber banding issues every deep dive
did the edd solo as gunner so I can confirm that navigation and just being able to see is your biggest problem
ziplines do help with some of the cylindrical tunnels and getting to the black box precipice so there's that
Still need to do this weeks deep dives
have fun!
Anyone wanna play EDD?
Saw a level 9000 player, fell to my knees in respect
is this weeks EDD harder than usual?
ehhh a little bit ig
one of the harder ones in recent times but nothing insane
oops i sent that in the wrong server
I would like some advice for this week's EDD, because it's Hollow Bough and it will be my first time doing so as well 
best advice I can give is play with other ppl that are experienced
and do your best to keep up with and learn from them
killed the twins with a bulk det cause we were all out of ammo on the advice of a graybeard
killing bosses with bulks is always fun
still can't tell if the cocoon had to be popped before the death blow
I will do, thank you
it does
Also bulk murdering dreadnaughts is hilarious
I havent bulked a dread but I've bulked a korlok
I bulked myself 
@charred spruce best of luck on your first EDD 
Thank you!
Literally the hardest EDD i ever witnessed
Any scout build suggestions for this EDD?
i think any build kinda works for scout tbh, just keep the lights up and go around corners to find nitra for the team
i ran m1k w hipster, zhunuks no oc for swarmers, thorns/sweet tooth/resupplier - iron will/field medic, worked out in the end
I tend not to use thorns on scout because I feel like I should be fleeing rather than taking chip damage.
helps with swarms
I use boomerangs on swarms.
i run pheromones to res people in shit spots
I think the only thing I guess to think about during deep dives versus regular missions as a Scout is to not go crazy with lights - but put them in optiminal positions becuase sometimes ammo resupplies can be fewer and further between.
As people tend to save up for last mission.
I kept being told pheromones didn't work that well - so I've never used them.
They got buffed when the crossbow came out, it's really good now
so clutch
I love using it with fire arrows and lighting a gigantic group of enemies on fire
I guess that's the problem with watching videos that might have come out before season 3
The only OC i have for crossbow fires 3 bolts - which makes it like a shotgun - but not as effective at dealing with crowds.
i need to mess with the bow more
I run fire bolts + aggressive venting
never used it well
I tend to run electricity on my bow to shoot bosses for chip damage.
It's hard to get used to but very fun and good
i use the smgs
I have 3 builds so far, one for each main weapon.
basically bottomless clip with the right perks
I paired the Deepcore with SMG. Which is sorta fun.
I just run thorns for that 1 swarmer clipping in the ground honestly
M1000 I paired with crossbow.
But yeah it otherwise doesnt help much in haz 5
too slow
It works for the haz 3 missions I usually play.
It's the "Most fun" which is the primary build for me playing.
I went through one EDD with a team, and have made it through a few Haz 4 missions.
The crossbow kills things, so it's reliable - sometimes grunts would still be coming with a tick of life left after a shotgun blast - so I tended to stray away from it.
SMG runs out of clip pretty quick so if you haven't killed what you needed then you are hoping your other gun is ready by that point.
I run Born Ready, on all my builds so mostly the secondary is just me holding off for it to get reloaded.
animation cancel on reload is a good replacement for born ready
the annoying part is learning the timings of every gun reload
for driller and the shotgun it's pretty busted
warthog is an instant reload w cancel so you practically have an infinite mag size
someguns also gain from reload cancel much more than others
like the AC gains ~1 second out if 5 vs warthog basically halving its reload speed
Did you miss the low O2 industrial sabotage from a couple weeks ago? Gnarly
that one wasn't so bad tbqh
there was so much nitra you could get to the caretaker with around ~500
and make a nice + formation of resupply pods around it
still just a pain
low O2 is always the worst modifier IMO
the low O2 aqarq EDD a while back was tough too
I dislike haunted more than low O2
the worst thing is poor map generation
I completed it
I had a driller that made me a tunnel system with resuplies, it was 4 tunnels on in front of each caretaker's eye, and they all were connected, I simply shoot all weakpoints and then eye with MS1000
i usually make a nice room in the ceiling and drop c4 from above
to make caretaker fight smoother, you want either a cliff or some battlements on the high ground. high enough to hop over or ignore the repulsor sheilds, or far enough away that they cant reach. you especially dont want them close enough to get inside your hallways, because then youve just made a tomb.
Yeah I usually go with the cliff and elevated tunnels
and I play with engineer who coordinates with me
with engy you can have him build you a bridge to the top as a faster alternative to ceiling c4
As Scout i can only say this mission's hardest part is energy cells
bridge also gives a bit of cover from patrol bot spam
as scout you can provide a lot of support with ifg and pheremone during the bug hordes, and big dps against boss crit spots
I only today found out that IFG increases damage
Yes this, the rwaring from the ghost alone is annoying enough and then it kills you
god i hated the haunted mission
Is it common for people to leave deep dives?
if i got to phase 3 of 3 but died do i start at phase 3 in elite deep dive?
you go back to the start every time
Made it through first stage of EDD.. but we died on second stage because we ran out of ammo and had a glyphid detonator
😔 good attempt I guess
I don't know, but I had two leavers yesterday Sadge
Me (driller) and a scout were left alone on 1st stage, but we have managed to finish it. Almost killed the 2nd dreadnaught on stage 2, but an unlucky occasion has interrupted it
Bit sad since they cant be replaced in DD for some reason
And yeah it was my 1st ever DDE
Ye DD does not replace players in since no other players other than ones present can join
This EDD is rough though. GGs to us getting through as far as we could though
Was kinda excited for edd but if people leave there too then meh maybe wont bother
if i have to play alone it's better to at least go with bosco
Could be internet problems
People who intentionally leave usually do it after stage 2 bc that's the weapon oc. Tho it's not uncommon for you to get disconnected which obviously isn't intentional and could explain why they left after stage 1 which offers the most meh reward
We got disconnected from a normal dive last week because host had bad internet at the end of s3
The problem is a lotta new folks don't know they can rejoin after disconnect
But also if you're on PlayStation, I'd be happy to help ya with either dive this week
I dont think it's a bad internet if they just go down during first swarm then one leaves and 1min after the other
and they never try to reconnect
they didnt leave after stage1 they left at the start of it
Well, a dude goes down in the middle of a swarm (no one can res him amidst it), a dude leaves. Kvik maf tells me it's not a disconnect monkaHmm
Ahh, that could be intentional but I've been disconnected randomly in the middle of stage before too tbh tho it's pretty rare lately but used to happen to me during s1 and s2
Tho it was usually closer to s3 tbh
But ya they probs are leaf lovers
It was just a tight spot he went down on, and were fighting off a huge horde for too long, he must've thought it's not worth it to wait
But we made it and that's what matters, never felt sad about the leavers
Someone left at the beginning of s2 yesterday bc we hadn't revived them in the middle of a swarm lol
1000% this. I'd already done it, I was helping them and they still left
But my very 1st regular DD was a huge success (on my noob scale of things) - I even got the achievement for beating it in 44:46 
Idk, leavers are kinda rare in my opinion and I’ve been playing the game with solely random teams and doing dives almost every week for several months now
Don’t get too discouraged I guess is what I’m trying to say
Yep. It would suck if you only had 1 attempt on it, but the only thing you are losing is time. The reward can be acquired
You're definitely right. Been playing for a year and I've had less than 10 toxic experiences on console and none of them happen in haz5.
These folks that leave early tho clearly aren't toxic leaf lovers tho, just the meh kind
Wish me luck, gonna go for 3rds on this week's EDD. Found another crew that needs help
My people need me lol
Jk, I'm no God (in case y'all think I've got a case of hubris 😅 from that last statement). Just experienced
You got this!
EDD terrain was brutal, we failed on second mission today. Felt like there was no nitra
Me and scout were running around until we found the very last piece of it, was 80 exactly
there was none
It Was Hell
Ayyy, third run complete. Last team ran smooth tho stage 2 gave us some probs ngl
Lol I'm feeling like going for a fourth run
last mission the entire team went down i was the last one to get to the pod
That was me with the team I just helped but stage one lol
kekw
my team was actually quite green
we were all rank 60 or bellow
Same. Both our drillers got lost lol
im just a masochist that plays haz 5 only now
Had 2 drillers, 1 gunner and me a scout
literally unlocked and have only played haz 5 ever since
so im used to absurd waves
Same tho I've been revisiting haz4 lately. Been really enjoying helping young folks lately
Tho I started from haz 3 and made my way to 5 over time ngl
ive only really done haz 2 when its bloody sab missions its way too annoying to do on haz 5 with randoms
and i would rather spend the time knowing i can do the mission
and continue on
same
started haz 3 and just went up from there
now it feels like there are no bugs on haz 4 :kekw:
Lol I getcha. Can't deny some haz4 runs still give me a run for my credits depending on the team. So I've got some improving to do still tbh 😅
failed the deep dive cause molly went through a resup hole and i couldnt find my way out smh molly
DD(Haz) - 3 , 3.5 ,3.5
EDD - 4.5 , 5 , 5.5
Ah ok
That’s why the first DD I did was easy compared to all other haz 5 missions I did
did the elite twice
first time we did stage 1+2 barely
thinking we'd find one nitra vein at spawn at stage 3
nothing
do it again and this time a FAT nitra vein on stage 3 spawn
bless
Just completed this week's elite and nitra did not like us we sat at 25 hp and under a quarter of our ammo the entire time. Beat it with 1 survivor cause of a bulk spawn
Quick question are you use to haz 5 games
any tips for EDD? been trying this week's with friends and we end up reaching the second stage at most, furthest we reached was killing 2 dreadnoughts but not getting the eggs
how many players and what classes?
whole group is me and my friends, and 1 for each class
full team of 4?
yep
and the hive was what you struggled with?
the dreadnought mission, think it wouldve been fine but the first one drained all our resources
seemed like there was very little nitra
what element was the driller using
ice
to deal with the exploders
for the dreadnought one, we pulled the dreadnoughts to spawn to fight them, made it easier
but the game decided to immediately spawn a swarm of macteras, which killed us
what gunner primary
uhhh, i think missiles? not sure
if youre going with ice, minigun would be the most reliable choice
i see
could also consider using scout crossbow with pheromone bolt to keep aggro off the team
pretty handy both for groups of mactera and for hive
poking hive with one bolt makes all the sentinels group on her and everyone can hit the butt crits
yea i was using gk2 with overclocked firing mechanism and boomstick with jumbo shells
perhaps i should switch to my other build which was running the plasma gun with liquid coolant and the crossbow with trifork
nitra seems really scarce on the first and second stages
also how familiar is your group with haz 4 and 5?
Not really familiar?
Butt crits
I just completed it with a group by the skin of our teeth (mostly on the second stage)
The first stage left us with very little nitra, and the second stage needed a lot while not providing much
Once we got past the second stage, there was enough nitra with the mini mules for an extra resupply
So I think there's just not much nitra, but grabbing all the eggs and running helped on the second stage
I wish I knew about that butt crit strategy before, I'm gonna try that
it also means the only thing attacking you is the hivegaurd with its bombs, so no need to worry about getting bit through a thin wall by a sentinel
also something ive noticed people do a lot during hive; if you have its aggro while its butt flap is open, dont circle around trying to hit it, just stay still and only move to dodge bombs. 1 person standing there and 3 people unloading into it is way better and way safer than the thing constantly spinning in place, people friendly firing because they keep sprinting in front of each oethers bullets, and people not having a clear line of fire becuase of the spinning.
yea, its also better to get used to haz 4 and 5 movements and bug management since EDD is around those levels
also personal opinion, hurricane is better than minigun for long ranged aoe while having decent direct damage
you can still synergize with driller cryo via your secondary which can spec into single target like the bulldog or BRT
Whats this weeks deep dive?
elite? a lot of bombs and little to no nitro
the regular dive is pretty easy tbh
elite was rough :( tried it again today and didn't even get as far as previous
always look around for exploders
first run i went gunner and was pretty solid, went scout today for light and mobility and not having that gunner shield really sucked
ah fuck I forgot stage 2 was dreadnaughts and im on sticky fuel
guess its time for tcf to carry
god I only got through the first DD stage
like the EDD
didn't even realize the dives had swapped from the Sabotage Mayhem of last week
but GODDDDDD WHYYYYY
I decided to pick GUNNER like a FOOLLLL
most miserable and hectic level i've been in even with the hurricane and homebrew recipe
constantly tripping and falling and running into corners and dead ends and packs of exploders
not a jolly quest whatsoever
1st stage layout was really the only trouble tbh
exploders only gave me a hard time during black box by making the ground uneven
pretty glad i didnt drill it down into the Pit™️
Fathomless point is a pretty neat DD
i swear there was so little nitra in this weeks EDD
as long as you can get past stage 1 youre fine
there's enough to win
if you find yourself running out of ammo/resupply could be A) you missed nitra B) you're missing your shots C) you don't have an ammo efficient build D) someones overfilling
yea ik
i finished it just fine, there just felt like a little less nitra than normal
prolly cause my team didnt have a scout so we could barely see
therefore missing nitra
I was just about to say, if you don’t have a scout it's very easy to miss nitra in hard to reach places
You can also get the brighter objects mod, pretty sure that makes nitra more visible
lol i dug my black box into a hole and covered it up
just camped the whole transmission and waited for bosco to kill everything
first time i failed tho cuz i was too close to the pit and an exploder blew a hole
I wish I could that with my team mates
Nice polandball profile picture
oh thanks
I find EDD easier solo, maybe is it because you don't need to rely on other
if you had an engi you can ask him to platform the cliff for a wider area to walk
no no i was digging the black box down in a hole next to the pit
and i didnt dig deep enough
so the wall between my hole and the natural pit was thin enough for a sploder to detect me and blow a hole
oof
Wait, they changed the DD ?
they changed both, you get a shot at 6 more cores if you do the new ones
That's pretty nice
woops i thought this was drg discussion not deep dive discussion
yes honestly I'd like to have a "educational" drg discussion channel as well. That would be a nice place where greenbeards like myself can ask for advice ^^
That would be good
So an advice channel? Sounds neat.
This or just a channel that focuses on discussing strategies / loadouts etc. that isn't necessarily tailored to deep dives / veteran players at least in my opinion ^^
Those channels would delve entirely into optimizing everything, which the majority of the community seems to hate anyways. A majority of the discussions would be meta setups, IS optimizing, and Elim optimizing
I personally would love that but with a huge portion of the community seemingly not for it i doubt it'd happen, or it'd just turn into a shitfest with people trying to be helpful but giving wrong info
Same, i would love to optimize things more in this game
Honestly if i knew the math for this game like i did for monster hunter, i would lmao. So many helpful people in that community who love to optimize drowned out by the metric fuckload of optimization haters
the ingame information is lacking, but you can absolutely optimize for weapon breakpoints with the wiki
all I know how to "optimize" is if fall damage will kill me based on the ping thing
wish I knew more
Fair point, I just feel out of place in this channel when asking for advice / other opinions 🤷♂️
I guess I'll do it anyways, most information should be usable in deep dives too
But I've also not come to this game to optimize. It feels much more rewarding in PvP games for me. I play this game for the fun experience ^^
That's the beauty of fun, it's subjective. Your fun may not be my fun, and that's ok. What i don't get is the people who shut down optimization cause it doesn't fall in line with their kind of fun. Anyways before i go on with that tangent; deep dives. This week's sure were fun. Edd a bit nitra starved nut definitely doable. Kinda wish i did the double sabo even though i fucking hate sabo at this point but oh well
the main chat herds from one bandwagon to another. It goes in cycles. There really isn't a place to talk about builds or weapons
I still need to do the EDD
Doing it solo might not be a bad idea
Considering how little nitra is in stage 1 and how fucked the cavegen is
I'd definitely recommend driller
No point extraction or escort, so maybe it would be doable for my ability
it does have 2 dreads though
i can handle haz5 dreads
one of which is the hp sponge one
oh I meant "as Driller"
although you do get a resupply pod all for yourself
Sure. I'll try pugging it after work and then solo if we get stuck
hi just unlocked deep dives and want info and tips before i head in
Three maps in sequence. Only gold and nitra. Nitra and current ammo carries over. Two primary objectives in each map
oh sounds harsh
nah
anything i shoud keep in mind?
the deep dive is hazard 3, 3.5, and 3.5. And it's a fixed seed so everybody knows the map layout and what missions they are
i always play at hazard 2 lol, im bad
if you're interested in spoiling it, you can check the sticky on reddit and think about what makes sense
You're just reinforcing bad habits, but play what is fun
a bit backhanded, but i get what you mean
the nicer way of saying it is that you won't learn the higher difficulties without doing it
this is this week's deep dive
Stage 1 - 3 mini mules, 2 eggs, lethal enemies.
Stage 2 - 7 aquarqs, 150 morkite, haunted cave
Stage 3 - 225 Morkite, Hiveguard
idk i just can't seem to do well in 3 or higher. might be cuz i'm always just with bosco lol.
oh neat thx for info
i'll try and see if i can get a group for this
FYI haunted cave is a modifier that adds a ghost bulk detonator that cannot be killed and moves very slowly
those are annoying to solo
I attempted the EDD and I was starved for nitra on the first mission so I just died
yeah ik, thx. it's why i want a team
Point extraction solo is very easy even with haunted cave because bosco can do the objective for you
is point extraction the aquarqs?
ye
yes. You still have to lead the bulk away from the minehead but it's probably the easiest of the two missions that can have the ghost
the map was very circular so I just ran around
the morkite was suprisingly hard to find, it was all in one room at the back
also you need to be able to see the aquarqs to ping them for bosco
2-3 of them are high up in some hidden caves so you'll still need to climb
also a good amount of nitra + morkite
I only noticed one at the very end when I launched it which would've made my time cut down by probably like 5-10 mins
the fabled hidden cave with 10 billion resources and the last aquarq that you can only notice once you get endless swarms
I had plenty of resources surprisingly
Bosco did most of the shooting while I mined the aquarqs (I was driller)
Dotty just got to within 10m of Omaran and then drilled directly downwards, went in a circle, drilled directly up and eventually got back to it a couple minutes later
happened to me once and cost us the mission
oh wait
very annoying
Yeah me and my group were basically running it from resupply to resupply, only barely made it out in the end of stage 3. In stage 1 and 2 tho someone had to leave alone so we wouldn't fail
shes trying her hardest
thats why you look for the secret cave first
There was secret cave? 
always assume a secret cave on refining and point extract
when a bomber pops a dreadnaught cocoon: 
Hey does anyone know what is the cube thing called error with glitch text because I found it on a glowing random spot on the map
It does nothing for now, but it can be seen as a resource in Deep Dives interface on teh Space Rig
check the pinned messages
actually, it's not pinned in this channel, so hold on
there we go
Well I checked the pinned msg and it says discussing DD only here, so fair point anyway lol
But thank you ^_^
failed the elite for fifth time. twin's aim are so sharp Xv
Don't give up, you can still win this
Don't go scrolling too far there tho, might find the forbidden Roadmap
Imagine going for the roller coaster achievement on a deep dive with the refinery
whats deep dive
Pre-built maps too so maps are the same
The salty spitoon of deep rock (at least the elite version anyway) When you unlock it theres a terminal at the end of the lobby next to your overclock forge.
Just 3 randomized missions that changes weekly, with elite dives being hazard 5 equivalent
did DDs and EDDs update yet
i dont think so
ok
everyone hates Hollow Bough
true
magma core is worse
nah
I prolly chose a bad time to attempt my first deep dive
My last attempt only goy as far as the first stage, where you have to stand next to the refueling pod. It dropped in a shitty spot, which is manageable, but a fucking bulk detonator came outta nowhere, forcing me out of range long enough to completely fail the mission. I was doin pretty well too 😔
My friend told me other people were having similar problems too
kill the bulk
Solo, i was running scout with gk2, boomstick, and cryo grenades
id swap cryo with ifg personally or abuse the DD's excess nitra to resupply cryo when you hear a bulk
you need 2 nades to freeze a bulk, but the freeze is super short so i prefer ifg
also setup for gk2 and boomstick?
No overclocks, i can’t remember the specifics cuz im at work rn
Ifgs are a good idea
also id recommend trying to get a group
and get used to haz 3 or 4
if EDD, start getting used to haz 4 and 5
Ya ill see if i can get a group
the multiple caretaker EDD was 5x better than this one
How bad of an idea is it to stack both swarms on top of each other in this EDD?
Team wipe type bad. Tight corridors and vertical drops with leeches and trees blocking everything
I still can’t believe we had a detonator spawned at the drop pod wiping us in a single pop
We had an L3 driller saying pull all 4 eggs at once and I warned him that no swarms spawned. Surprise surprise, his perfectly crafted plan did not go as well as he thought and got salty as we all revived each other. But he didn't want to be revived and wanted us to deposit the eggs during the swarm, and he literally pulled the "stop sucking" card
We still pulled through in the end. I could only assume he wanted to speedrun the EDD with three bronze players for some reason and not form his own group ||or bring bosco and play solo||
eggs are one of the few objectives you don't want to rush in DDs. stacking haz 5 swarms is not recommended at all unless your team is very experienced
I don't predrill on escort, but on EDDs I have seen some people predrill just to get eggs before starting dotty just cos they don't want to deal with doretta accidentally drilling out and egg and summoning another swarm on top of the escort swarm
dotty drilling an egg happened a few EDD's ago
There doesn't seem to be much nitra in this week's EDD. My random group ran out on stage 2 before killing the last dread and spent like 15 minutes looking for more but there was nothing. We weren't even wasting resupplies or anything. I guess you just have to be really efficient or play with 1-3 players.
you still won tho right?
Nope, it's the first EDD I have failed in like 3-4 months.
Actually, I lied, I failed one 4-5 weeks ago too with a random squad, but then got it the 2nd try.
I failed my second EDD months ago cos well skill issue, I also failed the bough low O2 PE with randoms who weren't that good so yeah. But other than that I've cleared every single EDD without fail since I unlocked them soon after S3 started
Trying again with a random 4 man squad.
OK, that one went a lot more smoothly. I told the squad that going ammo efficient was good for this EDD and the Gunner went NTP. Even had 1 resupply banked at the end of stage 2.
nitra in bough is just tricky cos sometimes it gets hidden by branches or is up in some hidden crevasse
adding on the innate DD nitra penalty there's only 2 or so resups on stage 1
Yeah, I don't think we missed anything, but the 1st team I had was probably just too slow and a little ammo inefficient. On stage 2, my 2nd group also just killed the 2 dreads then pulled the 2nd egg and called the drop pod immediately to avoid the wave and save some ammo. Stage 3 was a breeze.
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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new
Deep Dives
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yessss
ok so just like weekly challenges
sounds fun
its like regular missions but its 3 stages
I hope they give us 6 industrial sabos this week 🙏
what's the edd stage 3 layout like
me and my friend tried to do the edd and got destroyed by the shortage of nitra in stage 1 and 2
nitra heaven with a giant middle arena to fight bugs to your heart's content
that's how it was this week for the EDD
if you can make it past 2 stage 3 is way easier
Solution : Do the EDD solo
I guess it would be wrong to join an EDD if you're not comfortable with Haz 5
honestly, don't self-gate, just try it
The second stage of the EDD must have been the most painful stage I've ever done
2 breeder, 2 brood nexus, 2 bulk, twins
This stage like the number 2
Which is weird being the second stage
Most people don't mind lower levels joining edds
The fact i did the regular DD no problem but couldn’t get past stage 2 as scout says something about how foul those caves were to me
Cramped, covered in bugs, nothing but PAIN and MISERY on the walls instead of GOLD and NITRA
2 breeders? I swear there was a 3rd
If there is another one, I haven't seen it
Ive done it twice. There was three of those fuckers
I'm glad I haven't seen the third then
The second stage was so painful, it actually got me tryharding
We got super close recently
But we got cucked by a last second swarm right before we called the drop pod
So we got overwhemled before we could reach the drop pod
That's so sad
Good luck, may the RNG be with you
Indeed.
Gonna try to run a super efficient build. Might give engi a try since its the dreadnought that gives us trouble with low ammo.
Bc haha unstable overclock for the GL go Thump
Yeah, don't think I'm ready for EDDs, exploders just sorta, roll over an edge and blow up in your face and you're done - will play more difficult regular missions to get that "head on a swivel" thing going.
Dont remind me of the exploders
Ive mostly been doing driller on thay EDD and rely on my teammates for damage since drillers weapons arent that great against dreads.
I really want to change my engineers main weapon, but not sure if anything turns his shotgun into a 1 hit for regular mobs.
At least. To me. Might be some build out there for it that i havnt tried.
I use the shotgun a good bit
Its reliable
Can you spec it for 1 hit grunts on body?
Idk bout body.
Since they do have a tiny bit of armor.
Ill have to get more overclocks for it
Only have one and its a clean one that deals more damage to stunned enemies and the stun applies to anywhere on its body and not just weakpoints
Once you complete a deep dive, all you get for doing it again is whatever you pull out of the dive right?
Since I'm done all event stuff, I could just do regular deep dives for regular loot?
Other then that u rlly just do it once for the overclocks
Essentially?
I dont think there are crafting materials tho in DD
Just gold and nitra.
That's true, I don't remember seeing anything crafting wise.
The only way u can get materials is if a DD has a huuli hoarder.
I wish they'd spawn exploders further away, but I guess that would take a lot of the challenge out of them.
Driller can handle them pretty well.
Sith either the cryo or microwave cooker.
But on that particulat DD cryo might not be the best play.
Microwave is pretty fun.
My time to fire is too long on my current cryo build.
Which i like
Ahh.
I take the fast charge up upgrade personally
Its a hassle without it tbh
Ive also been using the snowball overclock.
Pretty fun
The snowball overclock IS the reach that my cryo needs lol
The only OC I have is Ice storm
Takes 50 ammo but can aoe freeze majority of bugs
I did the EDD with Lok-1 Exe and Breach Inferno
I take it you have fast locks on the smart gun
I have that overclock
Breach is good.
But if i have a driller i migjt focus on damage.
Since I normally find Lok1 only really good at shooting things around corners and other fun-stuff like that.
I have that one overclock for the GL that makes it do dummy direct damage at the cost of aoe
The Executioner OC make the Lok-1 have a very fast lock acquisition plus it reduce the maximum number of locks so it's very fast
Hope to get that, currently I wouldn't go EDD with the current Lok1 I have
I have armour break or explosive chemical rounds (Which is kinda fun)
If you get ECR or Exe, you pretty much have the most important OC on Lok-1 to be fair
Me and my friends also discovered that in DD if theres a dreadnaugt mission, no matter which egg u break first they will spawn the dreads in order.
Like in the EDD no matter which egg we broke first it was always hive guard with twins being the next
We thought that was neat
If twins could stop existing, it would be great
I
Thank you
I fucking
Despise
The twins
I prefer the hiveguard over em which is saying something cuz hiveguard is annoying
Twins are like my arch-nemesis in this game, I hate them to much
I normally play on Haz 3, so twins are one of the more fun things to fight.
Haz 4 babyyyyy
It's Hiveguard I dislike the most.
I have done solo haz 5 before
I was called insane for it.
Bc i kept doing it
Lol
Hiveguard adds more mobs to what can already be a mob-filled affair, requires some form of accuracy to take out his nubb'ns and is generally a meany pants.
I never play haz5 except for the achievements or when doing the EDD, too much headache for me
I'm starting to take more Haz 4 stuff - slowly progressing through the ranks.
My biggest complain with Hiveguard is that Lok-1 doesn't lock to the weak point but I guess it would be op
So ive been taking breaks from doing it solo
Yea
U gotta shimmy it towards them which can be scuffed
Thanks god proximity grenades exist
The first death when I tried EDD was teamfire, I was like "Should I just leave right now?"
Then everything else was exploder come outta nowhere - boom.
Yea expect a lot of friendly fire
As long as they pick u up its all gucci tho
Unless its intentional
Then fuck em
Non Haz5 is just too imbalanced for classes, Scout is strong enough in subHaz5 to kill + his insane mobility
i mean, i consider 5 to be the real game and anything below it the casual difficulty, so i think its fine that its that way
devs also mostly balance now around haz 4
Did the deep dives on steam change already? I was playing EDD today and heard people complain there was double IS but when I played there wasnt a single one?
There was, all the dds were reset because of the complaints
o.0
Does that happen often? Especially so close to the end?
Also does it mean that if I did DD before the change do I get another set of rewards if I do it after change?
the only time i recall them changing it before was once during update 32 with doretta being bugged, and once again in 33 also due to a doretta bug
It was changed off the double sabo like, Fri or Sat
WARNING: Deep Dive seeds have been changed since Thursday, this means you can get weekly Cores again!
Can't wait for tomorrow's sabotage dives
theyre gonna give us 6 sabo just to make up for this weeks dives
finally 
stage 3 of the edd is the easiest lmao
it happened on Tuesday or Monday I think
now I'm questioning my knowledge
it was on the 13th
Agree, after doing the mini-mules, you could sit at the spawn area and ask to get the eggs
Is the “bullet hell” overclock viable in EDD? I don’t want to risk it in case it I would hold my entire team back using a funny overclock
Viable? Sure. Do you hold more than your own/able to pick up others’ slack in a wave? No, imo
yeah it's viable, but you better know why you're bringing it
bullet hell is really just for mass cc imo
I’d be bringing it if I know in advice the driller is poopoo and know there is no sabotage or dreadnought
you can check the pinned message to know what's in the DDs each week (assuming you're on steam)
the microsoft version should be almost similar, with a few differences, notably in the cave gen.
I’m new here, just joined some hours ago, great to know!
Been playing for a good while though
welcome aboard new miner 

Well you know, it's not just for greenbeard, it's also for people new on the discord ^^
Ahh, lovely then!
Anyways back to overclocks, I've been grinding to get big bertha, is it worth the hype ?
Yeah it's okay
it's good, just not my favorite OC
Has someone in the community made like, an extensive tier list?
many people have, and it's always dogshit
on god that s1 black box
I do the le epic driller strat of digging it down with my drills and telling my engi to close the top with platforms
Then drill further for a bunkie to safely kill enemies
I urge you to not do that without asking your team
I ask off course
It's a problem when only 1 person is on board and the rest doesn't know English though
I personally never do bunkers.
It's unneeded and it's boring at best, dangerous at worst
I find it really useful in DD and EDD when I can tell everyone is panicking, to have one in advance for stuff like alien eggs
all you need to know is that neurotoxin payload is the best
Do you have all of them for the autocannon or is it just your favourite?
Neurotoxin Payload is the strongest OC in the game at the moment, it is straight unfun how OP it is
it should have a significant direct damage reduction
That wouldn't change anything
I've been screwed big time by the matrix core gods then
and area reduction
cut the ammo or reduce the neurotoxin chance to what it was previously
Oh shit, it also deals movement speed reduction?
yeah, that's what the effect does
slows and dot
and can easily kill a grunt
makes the weapon extremely ammo efficient
120 DoT damage and 30% slow
It apply a dot which deal enough damage to kill glyphid, you combine it with fear, they all run away while dying
fire a couple shots into a swarm and you'll kill most of the grunts
I wanted big bertha for this lol
the neurotoxin is enough damage to kill a grunt on its own
don't even have to aim
Don't even have to think
But the EDD can "easily" be done without Neurotoxin Payload, even without OCs, it is just a "free win" card
you just build the thunderhead for single target damage, add neurotoxin payload, and suddenly your primary has very good single target and area damage, and is very ammo efficient
but yeah you can do edd's oc-less
With randoms it can be really though but I've done it
"very good single target"
eeeeh, it's gonna be hitting for like 15 + like 3 AoE damage, it's not amazing by any definition.
You're better served whipping out your bulldog.
good enough
Bruh the downside to neurotoxin is -2 damage, -5 area
Or your BRT.
we ddin't bunker s2
i mean stage 1
got shellbacks rolling through, trijaws and slashers everywhere
and a goo bomber or two
do what ever you need to first stage to avoid natural swarms
nitra bads
This EDD is just kinda poorly generated imo
Previous one was nice
First mission being the hardest says a lot
such is the RNG
I found the second stage to be the hardest
With all the brood, breeder, weird caves generation, leech and twins
this is the first time i've brought er to an edd and the preformance was nominal
in hollow bough of all places
I couldn't have imagined it would go liek this
even with mactera
most of the kills were boomrang on swarmers probably
never survived a black box failure before
got so lucky no slashers caught me in the area around the box and i dug through a root blocking the hallway earlier
minelayer is better lol
Can I do Deep Dives with friends that are not promoted yet or not?
who’s ready for the legendary quadruple sabo tomorrow
Don't rigged it
hell yeah 
They should make sabo as rare as escort
Cause I hardly ever see escort on deep dives
rip. so i can't take my greenbeard sister on a haz 5 edd
I'm fairly certain all missions have an equal chance of being chosen, it just so happens Sabo got some lucky rolls.
That's some damn really luck rolls, it should play the lottery
To be fair, it has 6 chances and only has to nail 1 lol
I mean, true but to have a week streak this high, there is some kind of sorcery behind
bugs everywhere
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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new
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waits faster
Triple IS please 🙏
Let this be a challenging one!
Hope its extraction point inside of haunted cave
Those are always fun
They are
welp my personal death record
we ran out of ammo on the dreads and had to pickaxe them to death lol
is it possible to join another player's deep dive if you yourself haven't unlocked it?
you can't join deep dives without being promoted, so no
ok
I think I'd rather have the double caretaker EDD than the replacement one. It sucks.
anyone looking to do EDD?
actually, yes
RAHHHHHHHHHHH
i fucking did it finally
god you guys were right, the third stage of the EDD is stupidly easy
is there a way that someone can invite me back into a deep dive if i disconnect (Steam)
Unfortunately no
you cant invite but i think you can still join
If they’re your steam friend, you can either right click their name and choose join, or have they invite you.
the elite this week is nasty
whats in it?
elite last week was pretty evil too if i recall
the first stage is terrible
second stage is just typical dreadnought fights
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New
Deep Dives
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Soon™
Wow, just finished the EDD, that was rough
nitra starvation
~6 resups for an entire EDD i think
i skipped nitra a fair bit because solo
how many people did you Play with?
Yeah, tried it once with a four, nitra starvation killed us beginning of second stage.
Went at it a second time with 3, then engie left, so me and gunner ended up finishing it off
Both of us had over 400 kills. Never had a scout game with as many ever
yeah, obviously the consumption of nitra heavily depends on the ammount of teammates and their consumption as well. Never had any issues when playing with only one teammate
The third stage is really easy compared to the previous two
We got 2 dets and about 8 or 9 oppressors lmao. Made it a bit harder to manage
We had a bulk det on stage 2
Same. Pity it arrived after we killed the 2 dreads
Man we finished the second, popped the first small egg, and boom, detonator
Thats rough.
It was funny. We even managed to kill the hiveguard with one rofl
Think I went down 6 times all EDD, and all 6 were in that 1 hiveguard fight.
First stage is definitely the roughest. Have the driller make some space around the blackbox, because that cliff + exploder infestation will leave you no room to work with
Try doing it without a driller lol
Ohno
Engi platform that shit then
Otherwise, this was probably one of the harder EDDs I've done, altho I haven't been around for that long
Rough terrain + little nitra will do that
can't wait for triple sabo EDD
I am currently trying my first EDD and i cant seem to find the black box. Any Tips ?
Honestly triple sabo you would drown in nitra if done right rofl
use terrain scanner, it will show a green box
Is it usually in a certain spot such as end of the Stage with morkite or randomly somewhere ?
It's usually somewhat deep in the cave
usually random
But mileage can vary. Should be the same spot for the same seed tho
but, even on the same EDD seed, blackbox location can change between a few spots
Oh, interesting. Nonetheless the first stage is very enclosed for the most part
(if you run the same EDD a couple of times, blackbox/uplink/fuel cell location can change between a couple of spots)
Oh yeah, just found the black box now
thought it was the resuplly pot on the map as i just pretty much placed it right next to it
Thanks
i'm increasingly convinced hollow bough is the worst biome
3 hit rock is cringe but at least it isn't the endless hell of literally vertical rooms and floors with so many knots in them you can't see bugs more than 15 meters away
It's that or Fungus Bogs for me
also hollow bough has the goddamn stabber vine jumpscare generators
I distinctly remember the first time I got hit by a stabber vine, I had no idea what it was
Was like “oh my god some eldritch horror knocked me into this pit with a praetorian and I died help me”
Also hollow bough is dark as shit and is really hard to find nitra in, if it generates any in the first place
iv always said hollow bough has the worst terrain gen in the game and this edd proves me right
good luck to the divers in 20 mins
can we get double PE pls ty
Good luck, everyone.

have fun, fellas.
new DD lets go
🫡 all the scouts
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New
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thats me. i run normal DD solo. and i only have scout promoted
Launching.
Thanks, i do often use the flair gun
EDD - Codename: Corrosive Claw - Region: Dense Biozone.
Stage 1 - Refine Morkite - Extract Morkite.
all the morkite
dd Fathomless Point - Region : Crystalline Caverns
Modifier: Haunted Cave.
Salvage 3 mules - collect 2 eggs, Lethal enemies
Karldamnit
DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Clouded Pearl
Stage 1:
2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) +
1 Black Box |
Exploder Infestation
Stage 2:
3 M.U.L.E.s +
Dreadnought Twins |
No Mutators
Stage 3:
6 Eggs +
2 M.U.L.E.s |
Shield Disruption
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Corrosive Claw
Stage 1:
Refine Liquid Morkite +
150 Morkite |
Haunted Cave
Stage 2:
225 Morkite +
2 M.U.L.E.s |
Critical Weakness
Shield Disruption
Stage 3:
2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Twins) +
150 Morkite |
Low Oxygen
Old DD, restart your game for the new one ^^
ill find out the dreadnaughts i guess. gotta speedrun this before school
At least the double Industrial Sabotage is out of the quesiton.
Pin not updated, literally unplayable 
incoming sabo on stage 2
and 3
Twins + Classic on Stage 1
Double sabo
🙏
Triple sabo 
The devs can still update it
with the new deep dive rotation does that mean the lunar festival update is out?
I think so, maybe givr it an hour or so
SoonTM
Stage 2 NDD - 3 Mules + Twins - No mutators
Elite Deep Dive "Corrosive Slaw" (2022-01-19 to 2022-01-26)
Stage 1: Refinery + 150 Morkite | Haunted Cave
Stage 2: 225 Morkite + 2 Mini-mules | Shield Disruption + Critical Weakness
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Twins) + 150 Morkite | Low O2
{"Seed":1957801723,"SeedV2":53284948,"ExpirationTime":"2023-01-26T11:00:00Z"}
👀 thats fast af
sandboxing
oh boy low o2 dreads
Deep Dive "Clouded Pearl" (2022-01-19 to 2022-01-26)
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + OG) + Blackbox | Exploder Infestation
Stage 2: 3 Mini-mules + Twins
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 2 Mini-mules | Shield Disruption
I drank dark morkite for the wrong dd 💀
cough 2 data racks cough
Shame it's all Twins
Look at least I don’t have to live in horror of exploder infestation 
haunted cave refinery pog
Fungus Bogs Shield Disruption. A slight annoyance
Thankfully it's just a morkite mining mission
ey where's the fun in that mr sandbox 
i only play dives on 6x2 these days, need to know if there's rival stuff / sabotage in the dives so team can decide whether to bring full fire comps or not 
Aw damnit people just spawn in the scouting now
thankfully no sabo in this EDD, so non-fire comps are very nice too
waaaaaa I want sabo
Yeah, does take some of the adventure out of it, but it does also mean people figure it out MUCH faster.
adds low O2 and haunted
i love fighting twins i love when they heal because arbalest just vanishes sometimes and i cant damage equally
Double cryo 💣 to freeze them as they spawn to damage the arba quick
Haunted Cave, Shield Disruption, Low o2...
I just spawned in the EDD and I can hear Nemesis

And now a Bulk...
I think I'm going to restart
lmao
I didn't see a nemmy
Guess it's just my luck then
EDD phase 2 is fine
crit weakness and a very straightforward cave
Went down once to 500 swarmers and jellies spawning at once
Me with Executioner 
I just realised the lead sprayer absolutely melts bulks, cos their big body absorbs all of the hundreds of bullets that spray out at once if you throw it under them
this week's EDD was very short, expecting sub-30 runs
and yeah, bulks do spawn in DD this week
just killed a Bulk on 2nd stage
stage 3 was way easier than you'd think
this week looks easy 😭
you can stockpile so much nitra in the first 2 stages (2 is short as hell) that you can just call down 3 resups for each boss
and then o2 is not a problem and you can spam BC (or whatever else you want) at them and win
yeah it was, great for people looking to play EDD for the first time
How is the nitra status in the EDD
over 600 total nitra
Like any stage where it’s less or abundant
unlimited nitra
you can just kill all the lootbugs in stage 1 and be done with nitra for the rest of the run
That’s neat, thanks for sharing
classic lootbugs and like 5 good nitra veins
do loot bugs have a higher chance to spawn or something on refinery missions because I swear there's always like a thousand of them on refinery
probably easiest solo EDD i've done
it's either a bug or a restriction on other things that normally spawn so the AI director has to go bankrupt on lootbugs
i forget which one
devs are aware of the behavior and aren't planning on changing that, i know that much
the chance is in fact way higher though
Too hard, devs pls reset 
honestly the IS complaints are nullified by just bringing 2 drillers
well you really only need 1
or 1 engi
just orbital strike the pyramids and default dance in your roof bunker
Sludge drillers really bully IS tho
fat man makes your engi worse in general in a lot of situations
You do not need personal C4 resup with sludge damage 
every single driller has c4
the tradeoff is maybe you take 2x damage to skip the phase more cleanly and can't satchel hordes or terrain as freely in the rest of the mission
Luckily I get 3 fatman hand grenades too 
lol got 500 nitra in stage 2
Welcome to deepdives 
nukes solves every problem based
a dreadnought that has its kneecaps blown off for 40 seconds is kind of a joke
its EDD lol
Did I stutter? 

did the lunar new year start aswell?
way more fun than trying to solo a stage 3 low o2 refinery as scout
ugh when I see shield disrup sometimes I just wanna go solo
i did it
stage 2 is not hard
ur teammates deal more damage than the bugs I swear
i did the deep dive before i have to get ready for school
yea dense biozone with shield disrupt is surprisingly easy
im also looking for the assignment, cant find it
not dense biozone, just
large space so less chance for FF or bugs chasing
the fact that the mining mission is probably doable in 5 minutes as scout
CN really needs to not be listed as close to US
when the ping should be "world" or at least "far"
oh BTW
refinery is doable solo scout
you'll need to jank one pipe a bit though
not from the US but CN players... yea
china
and yes, west coast US is listed as close to china for some godforsaken reason
250 ping, yeap that's close
china
oh god, this week's EDD has all 3 of my least favourite mutators
this EDD was really easy compared to last week
Lotta dreadnoughts this week
refinery map is super flat, mining map has no weird rooms or giant vines everywhere, dreadnought rooms were all ok also
Haunted cave sucks when you don’t have molly
oh yea solo sucks for haunted
wait, did the deep dive only not update for me?
try reloading your lobby
yep that was it
its weird because i just ended a mission
i expected it to refresh the deep dive terminal
edd seems tame this time around
will probably attempt it this weekend with a friend, I'd rather milk the double exp as much as possible
honestly, EDD is not all that bad despite the painful Warnings
Stage 3 was the only one that gave us some trouble, and even then we still breezed through it relatively well
Double xp?
Oh right, the update came
People posting the EDDs already give me the confidence to take it on, although I am scared myself due to the modifiers
duality of a man, tbh it's pretty easy
people overrate low oxygens difficulty
Stage 2 has critical weakness which is probably the best anomaly for decreasing the difficulty of the game
To me, the hardest was stage 2, horrible cave generation but it was still more easy than the edd from last week
Oh thank god, no sabo
real
low O2 is easy to deal with if you keep an eye on it and plan
one of the few modifiers I can see veteran depositor working well on
lil bit of dmg resistance incase you took health coming back to the mule/platform
I wanted triple sabo