#deep-dive-discussion
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Oh the misery
magma core actually worst biome
I'd rather have shield disruption sabo than play magma core
Why not have both?
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Imagine the last one is both
Indeed
Dozer can't be secondary
idk how much worse you can make it tbh
I'd actually rather play sabo than escort tbh
(I know)
Escort lethal enemies magma core
did gsg guarantee a sabo every DD this time??
shield disruption lethal enemies magma core is also annoying
dd1 hiveguard and regular
no matter the type of mission
Nah we got 2 weeks without it in a row lmao
I hope they add the lithophage cleaning objectives in deep dives too
Assuming they treat it like Sabotage, good chance for Season 5
I hope we get shield disruption lethal enemies 5.5
It might end up as a side objective, tbh.
Please no
That'd be nice
Rockpox swarm haz 5.5 lethal enemies ๐
Add in low O2 as well
dd1 hiveguard, regular + 2 eggs no modifiers

what's the problem?
Industrial Sabotage.
dd2 2 mules 2eggs regen bugs
A lot of people really hate sabo. I personally don't get it, sabo is one of my favorite mission types
it's the hardest mode beside that insane zergrush on aqua, guess that's why they hate it
It's monotonous tbf
Not more monotonous than any other mission imo
Wish the boss had some new moves
i started liking sabo since start of season 3, since more people had to play it now, so lobbies are a lot more competent
also robot nerf
Sabo kinda dropped in s3 for me, since they absolutely lobotomized the bots
Actual flying grunts
The DD seems pretty easy
Honestly tho I prefer sabo over escort duty
I hate how it takes those whole cryo cannons fuel supply to "freeze" a robot arm
it was better than escort even before for me, but now its really far ahead imo
Sabotage is either chill af or you have 3 dead mates while fighting 8 caretaker arms, 3 control bots, deal with turrets and snowstorm, with no o2 and caretaker spamming nades
Hey
O dayum it started?
Twins + Dreadnaught, 2 Mini-Mules, Elite Threat on DD Stage 3
I think the problem with Sabo is it just occurs way too much in the deep dives.
This is the 11th week since the update added them to the rotation, and there have now been 11 instances of Industrial Sabotage (in 9 out of 11 of the weeks). IMO thatโs just excessive.
Fuck twins
Well, now we've gotten the Normal DD done, who's volunteering for the Elite? Lmao
Not even imo at that point there's too damn many
I hate them
Now if only people learn their mechanics instead of focusing on just the lacerator
I'm killing the lacerator first no matter what ๐ฟ
greenbeard moment
Sure, but making them heal 4x isnt cool
Its not even the healing that is the bad part. The armor regen in annoying.
Hive guard most unfun because it's such a cakewalk
Normal DD is just a big elim mission this time lol
This too yeah
EDD Stage 2 is 6 eggs, 1 dreadnought, low O2

that looks ok
Too much Dreadnought
dd3 2 dreads 2 mules elite threat
What was the Dreadnaught in Stage 1
EDD Dread is Twins
Nooooooooo
based
Another Data Rack Twins EDD
xD, it's fine
I swear to Karl, if the EDD stage 3 is Sabo 
Atleast no escort duty 
Any sabotage on this weekโs deep dives?
None
We don't know EDD stage 3 yet.
its gonna be elim with sabo secondary
Darn
EDD stage 1
Thats prob alright
edd stage 2 dreadnought is glyphid dreadnought
Shut
At least I am glad it's not my Driller week this week. Fighting dreadnaughts and caretakers and whatnot is such a hassle.
driller week?
I alternative which classes I do deep dives with.
Last week was driller week.
Is Scout week this week.
Scout in this economy ?
Just realised edd is in magma core. Hopefully caretaker is in a nice spot and not just another the floor is lava
@wraith shard EDD solo or duo or full team?
Explode is playing.
when
they don't do EDD
low o2 eggs is omega cringers
hiveguard + magma = floor is lava
Low oxy point extraction is even worse
Atleast there's a fixed place to get o2
4 scout run
Did our friend died in the EDD stage 2 ?
Lmao
EDD Stage 3: Sabo / 150 Morkite / Mactera Plague
i hope ur not serious
I'm serious xd
Stop trolling
I mean, if you insist
hold on im checking this myself in sandbox
he wasnt lying
i don't believe this
it actually is sabo mactera plague
no way
๐
im convinced y'all trolling
They are
he sent me the proof
i want it to be trolling, but double sabo is possible so
Post in #drg-gallery
Would explain why we didn't get it in the DD
lol
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LMAO
Oh no
Well.. have fun everyone?
and magma core
wait where code name
xD
this screenshot is partial
Karl, please, give me your strength, I need that cosmetic core
could it be
How's my man on 0 morkite after 40 mins
the fabled double sabo week is here
Hmm
can confirm, EDD stage 3 is Industrial Sabotage, 150 morkite, mactera plague
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pub EDD's gonna be fun
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Sweet, sweet suffering.
I only play pub
I have my own competent friend group tho so its guchi
Fun times
godspeed to all miners attempting this week's EDD
especially with pubs
Ain't no way this is real
oh god
I'll double gunner with my mate ez
I'll play pub with bronze 1s (I hope not)
he morked all over the place
its real ๐
Thanks for reminding me ๐
THE MACTERA PLAGGUEEEE, THE MACTERA PLAGUE IS REEAALLLLLL
The one piece
xD we literally begun the stage
Holy based double sabo
Gonna be a weird dive
wow amazing 3rd stage
imagine a week with sabo escort sabo
not as bad as escort sabo escort
GSG: write that down! write that down!
lies, its finished
Was it as terrible as it sounds?
it was unpleasant, but managable
5.5 mactera plague lol
That EDD really doesn't look fun
second stage doesn't
Oof
2 sabotages within one edd
I have skipped so many of them lately
Time to kill some bots 
I was originaly plannin on having this as my first edd, but nope
leadstorm leadspray incoming
big oof
Sabotage really needs adjustments the way it's been shoved down our throats. It's not a bad mission imo, but not a routine mission
You'll find future edds easier
||deep dive looks hard this week it's gonna be a lot of fun||
stage 2 has a lot of verticality
and no "safe" way to get down to the lower levels as far as i remember
Feels pointless to bring aoe loadout on this one
just had to make my own landing pad as engi and landed right next to a spitballer
good luck getting back up for that drop pod LOL
It's all dreadnoughts and bots
and then thereโs eggs
True 
I think the strat is use something with high ammo and blow through and just dump mag after mag into caretaker
and the egg swarms
CBT
we've had the double. now we need to see the triple sabo
...
not actually possible
oh so sequential missions can't be the same or no three same mission?
I wish it was, so that everyone gets sick of it and asks for changes
everyone is already sick of it and has asked for changes
I forgot the second mission on the deep dive I'm so dumb even though I completed it solo as gunner
...
sabo copists in chat
well then
Imagine if meteor strikes were in EDDs and they just come in and fuck up the terrain for caretaker fights. Wouldn't that be fun? 
IN FUCKING MAGMA CORE TOO ARE YOU KIDDINGGGGG
caretaker fight just feels hectic
The sniper turrets are not fun, considering they are encased and until they get out of the case they're immune
if they toned down the respawning tentacles, bots or turrets it would be so much less annoying
yeah, it's not fun getting sniped, bombed and shot by tentacles simultaneously
no wonder the hide strats are so popular
Just read the deep dives those are cancerous
You can hide? I thought teleporting bombs could reach anywhere
I have several ideas on how it can be reworked, because the way it is right now is not it
hiding blocks turrets, and tentacles take a while to reach you. so you only have to worry about sidestepping the bombs
They once took me out on the ceiling when I was trying to throw c4
engis can make platform roofs to block the melee attacks
Okay, I was considering the EDD this week because I like magma core pain, but I think I'll pass this week lmao
But, for those of you who want something to go for the DD
no such thing as passing, you must complete every EDD no matter what it is
It's got the most MUSHRUMS in the first stage
There was like five or six MUSHRUMS in just the spawn room
So you can get your fix before starting for real
gosh
I wish
it was "Sabo x Elim x Sabo" in the cursed magmaland.
then "Dread x Egg x Dread" for the secondaries
Code name: True Joy
Dives are fun until there is sabo
can't wait to spend 2 hours on the EDD
Management wanted to spare us so they made the DD have no sabo in exchange of making the EDD have two
if the rivals were pushed back why do we still have to deal with the caretaker fr!!?
pushed back doesn't mean they're gone
you would think they're less frequent though
They are pushed back, but it's not well implemented as it is
how long did GSG take to rework escort? I heard they shortened it significantly compared to release
Only thing I hear is they removed length 3 escorts from dives
they only removed the 2 stops escort from DD, and made some minor changes to nitra spawn and oil shale amount/generation/gathering speed
there never really was a "rework", just balance stuff
sounds like skill issue
real gamers only play haz 7
real and true
sob
the rock and stone mettle will be tested today
Lmfao ain't no way we actually got double industrial sabotage in edd
It happened way earlier then I thought
reddits gonna complain so hard
we got the most arduous deep dives this week, both difficulties
lezduit
the twins in EDD stage 1 can be instagibbed by the caretaker death explosion so that makes things slightly easier
it being in magma also makes me sad but oh well
two industrial sabotages wtf
The devs are live on twitch. Time to watch them suffer on double sabo 
lmao
tomorrow
the elite deep dives is done in Friday
Sweet. Never caught them live before
yoo
we got a double sabo
great job GSG what happened to sabo not getting any more special treatment
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sabo haters seething rn
"the rivals have been pushed back"๐ฟ
every promo assignment having sabotage is kekw moment
how do the rivals have so many vaults
Let see if the devs change their mind tomorrow
too late now
Eh not like sabo is that bad like people make it to be
i want to run this EDD it will be a fun challenge
it takes 20-25 mins
its just fucking boring
timegated as fuck
It's not that bad, just, it's almost always here
i could literally finish a haz6x2 salvage in the time it takes me to do a haz5 sabo
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thinking about engi loadouts for this one
hyperprop might actually be more worth over overdrive shard for this one
exec
but eggs
bullet curve
Fat boy
If they made sabotage only one hacking station do you think people would like it more?
yes
I dread these missions so much ๐ฆ
i enjoy the difficulty
not going to hate on sabo because its long, still a work of love
i like the boss itself but the power stations are so boring to do
cave gen is wildly inconsistent
I think sabotage would be more enjoyable if there was a way to skip armor phases on the Caretaker. You can do it on every Dreadnought, why not the Caretaker?
rather, i think the hacking stations be more engaging in general, and end sooner in exchange for being more difficult.
like, it would be neat if the way to complete it was to run back to the shield to do a hacking minigame while swarms are popping up all around you. split up the group so some defense hack-c while the others go to deal with the shield.
instead, you just kindaโฆ sit there. and shoot bugs. for like, two minutes.


Check the subreddit if you donโt believe me
wait this weekโs ddโs are out already?
Yeah itโs Thursday
how the time flies..
i was gonna go to bed but im not even a little tired
might run the deep dives rq before i sleep
its all about the company you keep
sorrow becomes comforting when it is shared
The double dreads in the dd?
double dreads is kinda stinky
Yea Iโll share with them
sometimes i wonder if gsg personally puts together deep dives
or if theyre random every week and beyond their control
no way anyone thought a double dread and a double sabo in deep dives was a good plan
breh
I hope so
No you donโt
lethal shield disruption w/ 3 Twin Dreadnoughts + Sabo
and exploder infestation, because reasons
we've had stage 2 sabo with exploders in recent times
like about 9 weeks ago or smthn
most intelligent gunner player
actually fucking insane
5Head gaming
tbf only ppl who roams discord knows whats going on
based
those sniper turrets wonโt know what hit them
one time i made the mistake of bringing Turret Arc to a double sabo

exactly, because nothing will hit them
Full EDD run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJyfB-zJPng
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When will these industrial sabotage missions ever stop appearing in deep dives, like in general.
So sick of them.
I ended up ditching that team and completed it with another
Aw man thereโs ANOTHER industrial sabotage mission?
Is it both DDs or just one of the two
Oh god the elite DD has two
Thatโs stupid yeah
Glad I don't need Cores anymore 
I got every core shortly after s3 launched and im only doing these for fun now
Why is the 2 industrial? Are we cursed? What have we done for about 2 months, give or take a week or 2?
didnt they say that the rival company were less active this season too
https://imgur.com/oXYa8DL worst EDD of my life
I hate magma core I hate magma core I hate magma core
How does that help? I can't remember what neurotox does
Lmaoo 31 downs.
atleast 10 of the downs amongst us was friendly fire tho
leadburster goes HARD
and then scout and driller were trying to murder each other post stage 3 caretaker
As long as you finished it, you can laugh about it now
we got earthquake crevases under both hacking pods ๐๐๐๐
I hate magma core
it's worse than hollow bough idc what anyone says
man that EDD takes so long
Fuuuuck. Do I really want to do the EDD this week? ๐ค
of course
Shit yeah, you're right
don't you wanna get bullied by the angry dorito twice in a row ?
you will suffer and you will like it !
it reminds me of the Board from Control
Ok no. no more sabo on EDD. I am sick of it
Next week gonna have 3 sabos at this pace
Made the spiderman glasses meme implying DRG = BDSM, just to realize I can't even post it here. Which, somehow, feels on-brand for the meme?
thanks for "sharing" tho ๐คฃ
GSG: "understood. now there 2 sabos on the DD instead."
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
hello developers at gsg. if you're reading this, nobody likes sabo in dives. nobody wants to play it. my edd team is dying from inactivity because it's too hard to find people who want to play it. it's not cool, it's not interesting, nobody is having fun. matrix cores are harder to obtain for newer players because they don't want to waste an hour of their lives by playing it either. there has never been a less fun time to play deep dives in the almost 2 years i've spent playing the game and this sentiment is shared by every other long term player i've talked to. please remove sabo from dives. thanks
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Sabo was actually the easy part of the EDD
I would have 3/3 sabo if I never see low o2 again
+the opinions of many others
sabo haters malding
Evidently a vocal minority but among most players I've asked, sabotage in deep dives is very much decreasing motivation to play them
next week it's gonna be 3 sabos with 3 secondory primary missions of sabo
have more sabo with your sabo
double industrial sabotage, AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Any input from anyone on any social media is a "vocal minority". Less than 7% of people who own DRG have Bronze I on each dwarf. "You're just a minority!" is a given. I'm sure the complaints about Rival Tech (which got nerfed) were just a "vocal minority". I'm sure the complaints that Eliminations were repetitive with only one Dread type were just a "vocal minority".
Personally I don't think Sabos are nearly as hard as people say, but I think they're repetitive and could use some brushing up.
before s3 I heard sabo was one of the least played mission types but I have no idea where that data is from
from nowhere
there's absolutely no data to back this up
the devs know but they never shared any of it
how many people have promoted 1 or 2 dwarfs
Sabotage isn't really difficult its just repetitive, uninteresting, and its only made worse when its in every assignment and every deep dive. And to top it off, it doesn't even pay out any more than a regular mission. At least if you got more reward for playing it there would be some incentive but no
Dont you guys think that this week's usual deep dive is extra simple?
knowing GSG as they are now, theyll probably address Sabo in some shape or measure, but it wont be really soon
the only tweak they made for s3 is to make the caves smaller
Movin' On Up is 25%, Corporate Climber is 11.7%
wasn't sabo from s1? more than a year ago
Yeah
ill keep taking on the DDs and Sabos solo anyway, because playing solo is my therapeutic experience
they've done it already
unless you mean something else ?
further changes
like, what ?
i hecking love playing the same mission over and over again
i cant say the specifics, mostly because i dont mind Sabo as it is now
but im simply guessing with reasonable probability that GSG might address Sabo further
my only gripe is how it shows up so often in DDs and assignments
I would personally make hack-c hack faster. also rearrange the cave structure so that you encounter the 2 power stations before the caretaker, so there's much less backtracking.
that's how RNG is
hack-c got made faster already
good idea for the other change, I'm taking notes to pass them on later
yep! its probably my own stigma that fuels my gripe anyway
again, idm sabo, usually play solo and ill keep chugging along
As someone who likes sabo, why does it feel like itโs been in every edd so far
lets see the archive
Sabo is really dependent on bringing the right loadout. Other mission types are more forgiving. I suspect a lot of the hate comes from people who only play NTP or similar loadouts and refuse to ever switch
ntp sabo kekw
ntp kekw
TRUE
in the weeks since the launch of S3 on steam, sabo has appeared 6 times in EDDs
The best way to fix the ind sab is to just remove 1 generator...
honestly the double sabo isn't bad it's just magma core is so unimaginably fucking cringe
also this is a general gripe, but the caretaker should probably have less respawning adds and less health overall
and yes magma makes everything worse
12 sabos in DDs total
LEGIT
The caretaker is fine as it is, the generators are the problem, too boring and slow
More than that, how can you justify playing ntp at all if it can result in instant mission loss if a nemesis/prospector can show up anytime
how easy is this week's DD
caretaker itself is fine
can i do it 40 mins? i gotta go to work soon lol
yeah if u bring a goodbuild
JFH time
I wonder, is hack-c or the rockcrackers faster? cos the meteor event feels 10x better than hack-x
ugh, two sabotage missions in the EDD. Super gross
defending hack-c is a lot less active work than maintaining rock-cracker pods
As someone who switches loadouts all the time, I'm bored of the โ No Cryo โ No radial AoE (ECR OK) โ No close range โ ๏ธ Must have Fat Boy or Max Damage Satchel requirements. It's a Driller main's nightmare.
i think thats an important bit
true, enemies also like to spawn right next to hack-c as well which makes it even worse
I bought cryo on IS last time, just to piss people off
and it worked perfectly, which was even funnier
You sound wonderful to play with 
doesnt ice storm do some good work against the caretaker
ye itโs pretty solid
Fat Boy infinite ammo glitch working 2024
Cryoโs not as awful to play with anymore at least, howโs cooker with IS?
pretty bad for caretaker
The problem with Colette Wave Cooker is you're using Colette Wave Cooker
I am ! Just ask people who played with me ! 
I love when I accidentally freeze teammates and place a satchel underneath them and hit the left click button by accident
by accident
yeah
yeah it's good. Ice Spear is awesome too
considering the edd has dreads and sabo, iโd recommend explosive reload or just tcf
ammo glitch ?
driller OCs are the last ones i need to get in majority, ill give those a shot
i really want ice spear
Come to think of it
2/3 primaries on gunner being aoe really guts his options with robots around
I now understand why Iโve been so okay with not playing gunner for the past 300 hours while i catch everyone else up
PB and JFH (and SM kinda) are single target options for Hurricane
JFH is one of my builds yes
Iโve played gunner with bots plenty of times, its just Iโve completely exhausted his build variety with bots in mind and now i just play with other classes
fair
3x Rival weakpoint bonus * 1.5x weakpoint bonus from Shrapnel Load = lol
yes
Autocannon is an obvious no-no, frankly I feel Gunner's issue is Minigun never had variety in the first place. Hurricane gets a lot of options.
Hurricane is a lot more gimmicky, which helps for variety
on the plus side, minigun is extremely versatile
i adore lead storm for its damage-up and silly naming
it becomes versatile by killing everything faster
go-to gunner
Leadstorm+leadspray 
Minigun's viable builds are kinda just slight variations on Lead Storm or Burning Hell, and that doesn't really change with Sabo either
Most Minigun OCs are just stat shuffles, and Lead Storm is just the numerically superior one, so that blows out 4 of its OCs. Burning Hell offers something strong and unique. Bullet Hell is an ammo hungry gimmick. The gun really needs some touch ups.
Blowthroughs is a mandatory pick, Magnetic Bearings sucks, Aggressive Venting never pops off without modded Haz/Burning Hell, and then the gun in general gets trounced in both DPS and ammo efficiency by Hurricane of all things. Its defining trait of "destroy single targets so fast it's basically AoE" both relies on literal AoE (blowthroughs) and is outdone by Hurricane (an explosive weapon) anyway.
i mean its a common theme in general that the older guns have less transformative or unique ocs then the newer weapons. Devs said we would be getting new ocs for old guns a few updates ago, so I hope its still on their mind
I'd prefer if they scrapped/reworked the damage/ammo shuffles instead of just tossing more OCs onto the 4 month grind
my condolences
does everyone have to get in the pod in DDs for it to leave? tried to escape after everyone got downed and it didnt let me leave
If people have iw it doesn't iirc?
if someone has iron will (without having used it already) the pod won't leave
aye yo 2 sabos in edd imma bout to jump out of the space rig
if memory serves, it's kinda hard to stick IFG on caretaker because collision is wonky? does work though
its not that hard
seems like most of the time I've tried it, IFG passes through the body of the caretaker and sticks near floor
caretaker body definitely doesn't act like terrain
and IFG isn't coded to stick to enemies, only terrain
so it's hard to get the area of effect to cover a weakpoint
ive found that standing about on the edge of the caretaker platform and chucking it right at the eye usually gets it to pop as it collides with it
cool, good tip, will give it a whirl
Does ifg buff caretaker damage tho that's the real question
haven't tested it with something like damage numbers mod, but haven't seen an enemy yet where IFG doesn't work
it does
its more common than u think
I always go in blind! That's what makes it so exciting โค๏ธ
Yo, kinda new to this game. What are Deep Dives? Have not unlocked it yet. Thanks.
Deep Dives are a set of 3 missions back-to-back, your ammo, health, nitra, and gold are transferred over between stages.
Normal deep dive stages are difficulties 3 -> 3.5 -> 3.5
Elite deep dives are hazard 4.5 -> 5 -> 5.5
How does these compare to normal hazard games? Are they way harder?
For completing stage 1, you're awarded with a blank matrix core, for stage 2, a randomly infused weapon overclock, and stage 3, a randomly infused cosmetic core
Normal deep dives only go up to hazard 3.5, so they're pretty easy. Elite deep dives go up to hazard 5.5, which is the highest difficulty in the vanilla game
Not really way harder. they have two primary-like objectives instead of primary/secondary, which can sometimes make things more "interesting" (like, say, Point Extraction aquarqs + fighting dread). But there are also no distractions like machine events, random meteors, or other things which can complicate a mission.
Full team recommended on these?
like all DRG missions, difficulty of enemy spawns and damage scales, so not necessarily. but, y'know, it's a co-op game, so full team is always best ๐
Bro 2 data racks in magma core for an EDD wtf
Plus low oxygen in between
Depends, the enemy count + some of their stats scale depending on how many players there are
Ok, thanks for the info ๐
Yay more sabos

fr double sabo this time is even easier than the eggs with low O2
It just takes more time to do than usual.
Not like egg rushing.
EDD done on first try. Not exactly difficult, just tiring lol
2nd stage cave shape was wild
2 x sabo in the EDD there is a god
Can imagine it was long with 2 caretakers
I wish they could've cut one power generator maybe
At least it won't be as stretched out
Yeah. Even the non-caretaker stage took some time. Extremely vertical cave with not much nitra. Egg swarms+Dreadnaught not made easy at all cause of low O2 and frequent Magma Core tremors
nice crashing 2 times exactly after 5 seconds into EDD
nice crashing 4 times in a row
what are the new deep dive missions
thanks
How bad are this weeks dives? cause they seem pretty bad.
regular deep dive is easy yet to try the EDD
yeah but normal dive is always easy
at least the objectives arent too bad killing dreadnoughts is fun
not looking forward to double caretaker
yeah thats what im talking about it doesnt seem very fun
ice storm on top of the pyramid + 2 dmg-radius c4s is such an op strat lol
vents and likely eye get frozen and it just melts really fast
good against dreads as well
i love when people look at the caretaker complaints and just immediately think "it's not hard, play better" or some shit like that, as if difficulty was ever the complaint about it. It's not hard, never really was past like, the first 3 times doing it. It's just tiring doing so many back to back every week. I bet you now there's even one in the core hunt or the weekly priority assignment
||not much of a bet, the only one is in the end of weekly core hunt||
god fucking dammit
i have 2 promos as well, bet i'll do a caretaker in at least one of those. So with core hunt reset thingy, that's a minimum of 3 caretakers. And the 2 in the EDD if i choose to do it. So minimum of 5 caretakers this week for me, up to 7 if i get one in one or both the promos
such a great design
lol
it's one way to make neurotoxin gunners cry
Put their weakest mission in every assignment they do
lmao. I prefer lsls+fearcoil tbh
tho at least driller is pretty fuckin good on caretaker so i got that goin for me
Lmao I joked last week that this week we'd probably get 2 caretakers ๐คฃ
Someone said that was impossible ๐คฃ
This week's there's actually two sabotage missions. Someone get me a psychic license
Bruh double caretaker ๐
It was me
really glad that i stopped doing DDs once i got all the weapon OCs because double sabo does not seem fun
Iirc deep dives are made randomly, and only in case of a new mission type being customised
yeak ik but still
Waiting for the triple
triple sabo sounds awful, do not will that into existence
double caretaker and o2 in the middle combined with the worst cave gen and magma core I've seen
1 hour and 15 minutes bois, I highly recommend
You can get double of any mission on a DD but not triple
it will always not be back to back so if you do get a double(example mining expedition) t's gonna be
1: mining
2: (any mission that's not mining)
3: mining
I wonder if deep dives are randomly generated or if they are picked manually
I mean it does require an update
theyre randomly generated
It doesnโt require a game update.
ah interesting, because last week I had an issue where the "new assignment" and deepdive went into negative digits (when I waited for it) and I couldn't select em, then after closing the game and updating it worked out fine
this EDD was quite trying in difficulty and teamwork. not only being really frugal with resups made tension high between teammates, getting 7 bulks (4 in stage 1, 2 in stage 2 and 1 in stage 3) was also really stringent on ammo. honestly, it made the game emotionally draining since the stress made the team kinda toxic
Question for Gunner Mains, when using the Coilgun on DD (or even EDD), do you prefer Mole or Triple Beam?
Which OC gives the best overall versatility to the team for any mission during them.
Being frugal with ammo is bad. No point giving yourself a hard time so that you save 400 nitra for the way home
no we had 35 nitra at the end of stage 3
We had like 4 resups for the final caretaker despite dropping them liberally in the first 2 missions
scout must have been slacking
they were like "i hate scout and i dont do dmg"
then i told them they shouldve said something
and i wouldve taken it instead and I got called elitist because i play it a lot and got to leg 3
oh well but that run hurt my brain and will to continue playing for a while ;-;
Wait the edd has bulks? It didnt spawn any when i was doing them
But that 2nd cave gen was horrible regardless of what class is being played
Bulks arent a guaranteed spawn, more like rng did not favor that personโs run
I personally think bulks are more ammo efficient than the half-wave they replace
Just comes with the caveat of โoh yeah they also fuck up terrain and you if you closeโ
Oh i see, learnt something new today
double caretaker was such a surprise
i mean the second mission was sooo scout reliant that we were all useless (cuz most eggs were at hi elevation onto a huge ravine. dont know why they complained with scout not doing dmg
got really lucky with cave gens and lack of oppressors and such
nothing too stupid
curious, is there any advantage of edd over dd? like, does it give more rewards? are you able to get rewards from both dd and edd? or is it just a harder dd?
you get cores from both the dd and edd
oh so i can do the dd and then the edd and get 6 cores?
oh awesome
I just unlocked DDs, and thought I would do one for fun.
Little did I know, but DDs are six runs in one.
congrats on promoting a dwarf, witch one did you promote.
miner
YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
Elimination, Salvage, and now another elimination... (which the secondary is salvage)
and this one is elite threat...
I literally saw one elite enemy during the entire elite threat stage
Thats haz 3 for you
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got a few elite slasher myself
can also use imgur
What do Elite deep dives give you over normal ones?
Finised one and I got some crappy OC for the gunner rail gun secondary
Nvm someone asked it like 10 messages up and it was answered
whoever made this edd is less intune with the community then activision was when they made infinite warfare
stop stuffing sabo into ur edds
skill issue
Might just solo with scout randoms are terrible at sabotage
play with good randoms ๐ง
easier and faster with duo assuming your teammate is good
Exceptions for refineries that are mega steep
spawn numbers are the same
Like a scout and driller?
Thats usually what i do
anything really. I like scout+engie or double gunner
Double gunner? Hmm
double gunner for EDD
you can do literally anything in regular DD and it will work
we did 3 driller 1 engie even tho theres 4 dreads and we were fine
DD is basically for memeing
For sure, i usually only need driller and scout mandatory
Ive spent far too long solo scout building 100s of pipes into the stratosphere
But bosco is a chad
Gunner gunner duo seems like a bad idea for this EDD in particular
Solely because of stage 2
you can manage
If by manage you mean spend a combined 5 minutes hand digging or ziplining then of course
You can dig straight down from spawn
Through the drop pod crater, its very close to the first layer of the big hole
holy fuck
i havent checked the DDs this week yet
the devs HAVE to be messing with us
2 IS in EDD
there's no way
They already messed too much by adding sabotage in dives and assignments
2 sabotage in edd ๐
At least not 3...
1 is already too much
I would be playing this season more if it wasn't a thing
I mean sabotage is already worth 2-3 stages
sabo haters rn ๐ญ๐ฅน๐ ๐ก๐จ๐ฑ
And the warnings don't help โ ๏ธ because you can't wait for a better rotation
don't give them ideas, next one might have 3
The mission could be tweaked fairly easily as well, like remove 1 power station and tweak the sniper turrets for example
Then I might enjoy doing it consistently
Like yeah bro I liked getting fucked by 5 sniper towers on the ceiling since I can't shoot them down as they're deploying โ ๏ธ
someone earlier said 3 sabos in a row on a dd is impossible
yeah thats what they want you to believe
It is impossible because you can't have the same primary objective twice in a row
why couldn't it be double osr instead?
FR
Elite dive this week was a pain in the balls on god
We cleared it. Wasnt bad, went smooth except for second stage. Went as a shard diffuser engineer.
it was alright, the nitra balance was decent against two sabotages
but it is getting really tiresome to deal with sabotage basically every DD
I just don't do them anymore
When firing range
tuesday
it's called your team mates on stage 3 of EDD
?
It only has 2 sabotages instead
alright i just reached the second stage and
i see how foolish my words were
a spitballer took 1 revive from me
then a maggot that got hit by a glyphid took another one
god i hate my fucking monitor
i cant see shit if i play during the day
i just lost because i cant physically see shit
thanks to my dad for breaking the good monitor now i have to play half blind
why? why is there so much caretaker fights? like i can understand one caretaker fight per deep dive but why shove two?
why people hate sabotage so much?
cos they aren't good at it
sabo is one of the more difficult mission types on high haz
and when they get it in EDD they get filtered
i hate how much ammo it eats up in deep dives
... my scout... why must you torture us like that
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pub scout moment
nice work
anyway the worst bit was fucking magma core and opening a crevasse under hack-c
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probably the worst EDD I've ever done
Tweak the sniper turrets and caretaker is suddenly fun
Just don't make them immune when they deploy
that would make them waayyy too easy. You can kill them before they shoot you it's fine as it is.
Not really, because several of them deploy at a time
there's like what 5 max? just break los from some and kill the ones you see it's not hard
Btw do they have a weakpoint?
don't think so
it doesn't matter tho, they die super fast anyway
phasebombs should be buffed to have a shorter detonation time, they're way too easy to avoid atm
When you shoot at 1, the other 4 are still firing, and avoiding their shots is unrealiable
thats why you break los with them
there's almost always some type of cover in the cave gen
if you're on one side of the arena you can take cover from the ones on the other side and shoot the one or two above you
you'll have high single target dps weapons for the caretaker anyway
they'll die before they get to shoot you
Whats problem with snipers? Just shoot them dead 
yuh
They can't hit you if you strafe ๐ต๏ธ
I tried that, doesn't work
Strafe faster 
If it did I wouldn't be saying this
...
asking for nerfs because you can't adapt to X game mechanic that pushes you out of your normal routine is fucking lame
It's just unreliable
There is no more reliable enemy than sniper turret
Well, other than your driller with C4 
Dodging is unreliable
The sniper turret
I haven't been to tell the criteria under the shot seems to miss
Unless I use my grapple but not everyone has a grapple
I literally use scout in sabotage to dodge the snipers
Do not stand still pretty much 
And if you use cover to tank shots be far enough away, its either AOE or pierces a little bit of terrain when destroying it I think 
If you can show me footage of you reliably dodging I'll be happy to watch it and learn
Seriously though, if they're not way off in the distance, you pretty much have to sprint jump perpendicular to the direction of the shot to dodge em
Yeah, thats the easiest way
even at 30-40m, just strafing isn't quite enough
idk if badman is trolling or not but just take cover from them it's not hard
Actual useful advice, thank you
I had very thin cover one time and still got shot 
But again I think I had multiple snipers targeting me so maybe one opened for the other or something
If you can provide footage of you taking cover I'll be happy to watch it
I think the shots are aoe too, like spitballers? So if there's a wall behind you, it could miss you but still impact the wall and deal damage
likewise with when they're directly above you shooting down into the ground
if you're scout you can grapple to cover, as driller you can make your own cover, engie can make a fort before the fight, gunner can put a shield down and kill them all before it ends
there's solutions to your problem
Speaking of engie, turrets are nice cover
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Tho for snipers that means you are near roof yourself with plats
Do they reach
I might do it with scout
I did scout
5 different times a full wave of mactera spawned on me
and the caretaker fights for some reason it really likes to spam the mine
34 mines in a row
Damn
Yeah adding the mission into the rotation really was a mistake, revert that and the game is perfect for me. And I'll do dives again. Might do this one and get a really bad taste ngl
I mean getting to the fight is an objective in it of itself, by the time you get there, there isnt no more ammo
so stage 1 is 3 objectives in reality and so is stage 3
wha
dawg theres like 300 nitra wdym no ammo
we had 0 ammo out of stage 2
I haven't had issues with ammo in sabo so far, which I am glad for because I kinda want to not worry about ammo when fighting a big boss
mine more nitra ๐ง
we couldnt find any
edd?
yuh
aim better or take more ammo efficient builds or both
nah man, we didnt see much
I don't think I will do it with randoms, last time they called way too many resupplies too early and it made the mission way harder than it needed to be
its best if you can find a friend group to do deep dives with each week
pubs are super hit or miss
Yeah...I am soloing most missions rn
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You could ask in lfg for experienced players only.
Pretty annoying when you get players in an EDD that donโt pull their weight
I kinda want to solo to improve in sabotage since that's the only mission I'm currently lacking in
what loadout do you take on scout?
Hipster and any boomstick build
I strongly recommend aise gk2
I should use that one as well
as for secondary I like bodkins but any swarm clear is fine
I might use GK2 and boomstick or whatever
The full auto of gk2 feels better on my hand than hipster
aggressive venting drak goes brrrr
nice work 
thx
According to Jacob on my Deep Dive thread on the subreddit, they've changed the EDD seed.
@quiet mortar Might be useful to know.
I want a 3 industrial sabotage EDD next week
whaa?
they do that?
To my recollection, they've only changed the seed forcefully once or twice before.
According to Jacob, we made Mike cry.
Oh? Will make a note on the pin real fast
Dunno.
that's a shame, double sabo is a pretty good meme tbh
T'was the meme that broke the camel's back.
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oh well I've already got my rewards
WAIT
at shows as incomplete
i can get the cores again??
High chance for Yes.
BALLIN
hey reddit can you throw a fit every week so I can get more cores pls ty xoxoxo
what do you mean by this, one of the devs was crying from all the backlash of double sabo?
Seems so.
istg some people forget game developers are people too

new EDD biome is Hollow Bough, First stage 250 morkite +black box
Mike is normally the balance guy if I remember so, seems about right lmao
I want Mike to know I like sabotage
with Exploder infestation
Name of the Deep Dive?
Bloody Return
oops I forgot the names when I dm'd muffin
who got the info?
Normal DD too?
yes
info is pending
idc about the double sabo I'm just glad it's not magma core anymore 
I'll take bough over magma any day with no exceptions
double sabo is hell
magma core is hell
imagine dodging energy boolets and fucking rock shakes and slows you down 75%
Only the EDD, according to Jacob.
My DD is different to the one posted yesterday
Normal Dive too actually
Just opened the game to confirm
Sad I didn't do it already haha
Free Friday reset XD
I had the pleasure of doing double sabo edd
twas one hell of a grind and it revealed my own perseverance as a greybeard now
wish I could have played the old dd, love me some dread fights
no, the DD changed as well
I have no idea but I doubt it
i think they did cus I remember having the thursday corehunt locked in and now it aint
i didnt do corehunts yet
The devs said everyone is playing DRG this weekend
only edd tho i do remember locking teh assignment in
so about those new dives info
About to start the DD
blind edd here we go
it's not magma core so you'll be fine
Deep Dive "Fathomless Point" (2023-01-13 to 2023-01-19)
Region: Crystalline Caverns
Stage 1: 3 Mini-mules + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: 7 Aquarqs + 150 Morkite | Haunted Cave
Stage 3: 225 Morkite + Hiveguard
God damn Haunted Cave
Don't moan too much or we'll be doing this again tomorrow XD
(ghostly moaning intensifies)
Considering I play most of my Deep Dives solo, Haunted Cave is just a huge tedious mechanic.
I'll moan as much as I want.
Elite Deep Dive "Bloody Return" (2023-01-13 to 2023-01-19)
Region: Hollow Bough
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + Blackbox | Exploder Infestation
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Twins) + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 2 Mini-mules
New DD/EDD seed is now {"Seed":859524513,"SeedV2":17302019,"ExpirationTime":"2023-01-19T11:00:00Z"}
goodbye to double sabo i guess
s
If someone for some reason want to run the double sabo EDD in sandbox, the old seed was {"Seed":859524513,"SeedV2":2447339677,"ExpirationTime":"2023-01-19T11:00:00Z"}
they removed it?
WHYPP
I WANTED TO PLOY IT
did the rewards reset as well?
Yes.
wait, why did the deep dive reset again?
I still wanted to play it
everyone hates sabo
more free stuff lol
some of us strongly dislike having too many consecutive sabos in DDs/EDDs
idk why people hate sabo so much
i mean no one complains that we get so much egg hunts
egg hunts are pretty easy and not as time consuming
sabo though
very time consuming
very annoying
tbh, between magma core, double sabo, double dread, low O2 and stage 3 mactera plague I think that was one of the greatest EDDs in the past like 6 months
i kinda love getting sabo as my first stage because i always end up with enough nitra for the other 2 stages so they go by much faster