deep-dive-discussion

[brisk pagoda]

you dont want a bunker for caretaker you want a cliff or a battlement

[wraith shard]

battlement is cool

feels safe when I have a wall of cheese to take cover behind

[dry stone]

who the hell made this week's deep dive aquarqs with haunted presence

[glossy walrus]

yeah you wanna be high up if you can, an engie treefort above the repulsors does nicely

but if all you got is a driller, then you can make tunnels to spots on all 4 sides to pop out and shoot eyes

kinda bunkers in a way, but more for cover rather than funneling for anti bug bunkers

[wraith shard]

almost every time I play with an engie we get a bridge above caretaker for whatever fatboy/c4 we might have

[glossy walrus]

I've never seen any other engie do that, lucky you finding the good ones

I'm used to drilling out my penthouse suite by default for c4 anyway

[wraith shard]

I honestly cant remember the last time I played sabo with an engie that didnt do that, and I play with open lobby/discord lfg relatively often

[glossy walrus]

I come from the psn side and that playerbase is much greener

[wraith shard]

yeah this works good too, tho you can do basically nothing else in the fight

[glossy walrus]

game's only been out for a year for them

[wraith shard]

ah ok

is that same for xbox?

[glossy walrus]

nah driller can do plenty of other stuff depending on loadout

with tfc epc he can hit 3 sides from one location, just like lok can

[wraith shard]

I mean if hes in the ceiling he's alot more limited to what he can do

[glossy walrus]

if you really get fancy you can make murderholes from above to hit eyes with tfc

tfc can hit eyes from above fine

[wraith shard]

oh ok

good to know

[glossy walrus]

you have to drill tunnels out a bit though, but you can angle them past the arch

it's a bit dangerous though as if you get shot right as you fire a tfc, it can explode in your face and drop you out of the ceiling

[wraith shard]

whenver I drill into ceiling I'm so anxious about falling down xD

[glossy walrus]

usually I just come down and help shoot the eyes

feels good hitting a side eye with tfc

[wraith shard]

I havent bothered to learn tcf yet but it's probably something I should learn sooner rather than later

[prime pine]

What's this week elite deep dive stages so I can mentally prepare

[fallen hinge]

check pin

[prime pine]

Today's deep dives sponsored by lack of molly, omelettes and obamaprism

[wraith shard]

god damn I fucking love this DD stage 1 cave gen

[fallen hinge]

Me too. It's definitely a new cave gen from this update

[sly vapor]

dont fall in the tfc rabbit hole, it's faster to just drill towards the vein rather than using tfc because if you use it the minerals explode all around the cave and you need to go pick them up, doesnt even feel satisfying 🥺

[wraith shard]

lol

[brisk pagoda]

just tell the scout to pick it up

[sly vapor]

using tfc to sabotage scout while hes mining is allowed

[wraith shard]

the stage 2 cave gen is hot as well

nice black box location as well

this DD is sick

[wraith shard]

definitely my fav regular DD out of the like 10 I've done

rly cool cave gen all around

[fading folio]

Can I get a rock and stone

[wraith shard]

stock and bone

[candid cypress]

Did i hear a rock and stone?

[kindred patio]

Is there any resources I should look at before tackling deep dives?

[thorn jewel]

Pins in this channel

[kindred patio]

duh 4head, ty ty

[thorn jewel]

My advice is understand what button does what, and have fun

And if you’re new to haz5, then EDD will be understandably tough but depending on teammates if you want them, will be a good learning experience

[kindred patio]

hm, I had been hoping to get some overclocks before doing haz5

are all Deep Dives Haz5?

[thorn jewel]

normal dive is 2.5/3.5/3.5

EDD is 4.5/5/5.5

Its doable to do EDD with no OCs, just a little rough

I spent 5h (on a really tough seed/week) doing EDD my first week with two greybeards

[kindred patio]

Can you hunt for specific overclocks or is it random completely?

Sorry for the questions

[thorn jewel]

Random from the assignments/dives; can choose 1 of 3 for blank cores at machine events

I believe it goes blank -> weapon -> cosmetic (randomized class) for assignment/dive rewards

And then weapon/cosmetic/weapon with randomized classes at machine events

[kindred patio]

Are they predetermined stats? I have splintering shells for Gunner, will this overclock always have the same bonus?

[thorn jewel]

If I understand the question correctly, then yes, each OC is gonna do its own thing

You can’t get two splintering shells for autocannon and they have slight variations

Some do slight changes to guns, some do big changes

[kindred patio]

ye that was right, all overclocks have the same. Like splintering shells won't have any variations on stats

[thorn jewel]

also, fundamentally you won’t get the same overclock twice

Is probably a very important thing to bring up

[kindred patio]

There any I should be lookin for as Gunner?

[thorn jewel]

I love burning hell as an “up front battering ram” style of gameplay, volatile bullets for bulldog is OP, neurotoxin payloaf is OP but sleep inducing, bullet hell eats ammo but fun, jetfuel homebrew is good for hurricane, salvo is fun, idk

Big bertha is good for autocannon

Leadstorm is fun, lead spray is really good (the brrrrrt)

Hellfire is good, mole is amusing

[low pumice]

Magic bullets for the bulldog is fun too when paired with the neurotoxin+explosive mod

[somber dew]

How it feels to find out that your friend had Haz 5.5 X2 spawns modded difficulty when doing a regular deep dive.

Made doing the elite deep dive feel easy

[tiny laurel]

What’s the best bosco build for solo dives or haz 5’s

[tall fog]

imo Mining - Rockets - Extra Revive - Cryo - Overcharged

[somber dew]

Can agree with that one

[tiny laurel]

Aight rock and stone

[candid cypress]

was it just me or was this EDD fairly easy?

[wraith shard]

easier than most I'd say

[candid cypress]

all the egg spawns seemed like maybe 15 grunts and a oppressor, iirc i did a haz 5 point extract and the bugs never stopped coming out of the walls

[wraith shard]

if you're in PE long enough I think the spawns are non stop

tho I remember someone had a bug a while ago with nonstop PE spawns from the getgo idk if that's still a thing

[candid cypress]

good to know, i cant remember if it was from the start or not, but for a elite dive, this weeks was pretty tame

Rock and Stone everyone, keep up the good work

[wraith shard]

can't wait till we get 5.5 shield disruption sabo

[candid cypress]

yeah, that'll be a diff ballgame

always excited to see whats in store

[wraith shard]

I generally dislike sabo in DD's tho

same with escort

[candid cypress]

lots of sabo's in my assignments lately

time consuming, yea

[wraith shard]

yeah theres been nonstop sabo past few weeks

[candid cypress]

good xp tho, i think its one of the best

[wraith shard]

sure is

I wish PE gave more xp

my fav mission type but even on haz 5 the xp is pitiful

[somber dew]

I like to think of Sabo in DD/EDD's as the sort of final boss mission when it comes to it

[halcyon latch]

What are the mission in this weeks deep dives?

[wraith shard]

Check pins :3

It gets updated every week

Once people have scouted them out

[halcyon latch]

Ah I did not know that was a thing

Thank you

[grave hill]

thanks

[balmy stone]

Deep dive stage 1 was pacman

Tunnel maze + ghost

[next tangle]

Can someone give me an advice what build should I use if I want to collect resources with Experimental Plasma Charger

[brisk pagoda]

22222 with energy rerouting overclock

[limpid pond]

21122 Heat Pipe also works if you want to collect the absolute most

[elfin cipher]

Turret whip is way better compared to when I used it last time.

Good chaotic fun on Haz 4 missions

Wait do people hate Sabotage that much?

[coral pond]

it's entirely because of the frequency of it

already this week i've had one in a promo, one in the core hunt, and there's 2 in the dives. I still have 2 more promos to do, and ofc the core hunt cycle glitch which means at least another 2 sabos

[cunning thistle]

people don't know how to drop c4 smh

[hazy lily]

Sabo isn't hard when you know what to do, but it's lengthy and harder to carry on that other missions (imo)

[limpid pond]

Sabos are super lame variety killers tbh

I figured "This won't be that bad" since they nerfed Patrol Bots, but it's a total mood killer when you get a new assignment or a new Dive and it's just "Oh, gotta use The Sabo Build again 😬"

[balmy stone]

I don’t like hacking or phase bombs and sabos take forever

It’s in the same tier as escort

[brisk pagoda]

if theres something in the way, explode it

[limpid pond]

It's just ultra boring as someone who almost only does 2P because doing literally anything other than Driller + Engi basically means you lose, so every other mission of the Dive is way slower because no Scout

[brisk pagoda]

so swap out the engy for scout

[quick compass]

so im fairly new to the game, just around 100 hours and wanna try my hand at deep dives, any advice?

[limpid pond]

So the Hacking Pods are much harder and you can't Satchel the vents nearly as easily? 🤨

[balmy stone]

Edd’s are hard af so it’s okay if you take a long time to clear wave 3, I think I beat my first edd like a month after my first dd

Stage 3*

[brisk pagoda]

its 3 missions in a row, and your nitra carries over. no machine events can spawn either so no fear of missing anything if you push button as soon as its up

[quick compass]

ok, so its like a matter of getting things done fast cause theres less garantee for resources then

[elfin cipher]

This is what I always do. Helps a ton

[balmy stone]

Nitra’s the only thing you need to look for unless there’s morkite

[brisk pagoda]

driller can solo any of the bugs on the ground, scout can deal with any spitters, and snipe the vents and chase down the eye. c4 isnt mandatory to down it fast, its just the lazier way.

[balmy stone]

So getting good at mining nitra fast and playing higher haz missions will help

You could probably handle a dd rn if you play on haz 3

[quick compass]

i just unlocked haz 5 so i guess its time to grind those out while im grinding for resources to get everything purchased for easier future build making

[shut cradle]

hello there i came to this sever to try and figure out what this is

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1060266913638387732/1061408386970812456/20230107_171737.gif

[balmy stone]

Error cube

[quick compass]

easter egg

not use3d for anything rn

[balmy stone]

You get an achievement for getting 5

And it gives like 4000xp

[elfin cipher]

Error cube. Gives you 4000 XP I believe.

Lucky find. Well done.

[shut cradle]

thx for the info

[elfin cipher]

During the Yultide event chances were to get them from the gifts laying around. Got 2 in a row once. Didn't complain.

[quick compass]

nice

[elfin cipher]

Test

[quick compass]

but yeah i wanna start doing dd's and getting them cores

guess ill start doing haz5 games to get used to it

[balmy stone]

You can start dd’s right away cause the matrix cores will give you more overclocks to potentially help on an edd

And dd’s are fairly easy

[quick compass]

guess its now a matter of finding a group to play with then

[balmy stone]

I join pubs or get invited by friends to do them

[quick compass]

dont got any friends that play this......time to make some

[brisk pagoda]

if you were able to unlock haz5 youre more than ready to do the regular deep dive without issue

[quick compass]

well, thats reassuring

[brisk pagoda]

elite will probably be a challenge but doable with effort

[balmy stone]

Also if you beat stage 1 of the edd you get a matrix core, you don’t need to beat all 3 to get stuff from it

[quick compass]

they both give cores correct?

[balmy stone]

Yes

[quick compass]

is it a different core every stage like the weekly assignments?

solid. thank ye lads

[balmy stone]

Blank, weapon, cosmetic

[wraith kraken]

Even more sabo...

Why

[uncut creek]

for the driller boys, take volitile impact compound on the csp and either heavy hitter epc or a damage collette, im about to do both of them ill report back, rock n stone

[quick compass]

Sabo is currently my least favorite game type due to the fact that ive done it too much. There’s like at least one im every assignment ive done while grinding away at unlocking all the initial items while promoting everyone once

Not super excited about seeing them in deep dives, but oh well, its still a fun game so whatevs i guess

[woeful patrol]

Same, everything has sabo in it

[vagrant heron]

I like Chinese takeaway, but if I had it every single day, I'd get bored and eventually repulsed.

[sleek sable]

this deep dive was the first one to make me cry

Dont run it as a solo scout

[coral pond]

i keep overheating after the charged shot

[limpid pond]

You're either not using Heat Shield or not shooting fast enough

[coral pond]

i am using heat shield

i overheat directly after hitting full charge

[limpid pond]

It's the latter then

[coral pond]

that timing is hella precise then

[wraith shard]

@pine remnant @hidden venture @jaunty crag @cunning pond

[pine remnant]

that was rough

[cunning pond]

Why me specifically

[jaunty crag]

[cunning pond]

I got pinged and I don't know why.
Tonight is crazy.

Or I'm just less sane than usual

[glossy walrus]

it is on the harder side after the nerf yeah, most people don't use heat pipe anymore for tfc builds because of it. all about energy rerouting now

[coral pond]

i'll try that

[cunning walrus]

What's this week's normal deep dive missions?

Nvm saw pin

[gray hemlock]

this edd is literally a cave leech cluster in disguise

[woeful niche]

deep dives are not more wild then regular missions, they are pre seeded so once you know what’s in them they shud be pretty easy to beat. Not to mention they can’t contain most of the random events in the game that make missions harder

[wraith shard]

you can still get like nemesis and korlok I think but it's alot easier when you know it's coming

the threat from alot of special enemies is mainly just being surprised by them/being unprepared for them

can betc be in DDs?

[trail pivot]

yeah, but betc doesn't always show

[lime meteor]

bet c always shows in pre seed

[wraith shard]

so whats consistent between the DDs? is it just cave gen? I swear sometimes there have been enemies that weren't there another time

[lime meteor]

but if she wasn't in the first time she won't be any other time

I think even enemy pool is similiar

if u have bulk in enemy pool u will have bulks

every time

[wraith shard]

I might be going mad but pretty sure there have been cave leeches that weren't there in a later play of the same DD

[glossy walrus]

static spawns (betc, leeches, etc) vary by number of players

what might be there in 1p or 2p might not be in 4p and vice versa

[wraith shard]

ooooo I see, thank you

[trail pivot]

not sure why i didn't bring explosive subata the first time i did this weeks dive

looking at the pins now, it should be perfect stage 2

and three

I guess i was in a rush and had beend ragging it through a couple othe rmissions

[wraith shard]

the cave gen for this weeks DD is rly fresh

[trail pivot]

lucky salt pillar right above the caretaker

[trail pivot]

got a hiveguard stage 2 in 3p

instead of the first swarm

[trail pivot]

god that lobby was laggy

[wraith shard]

is it normal to get an hour at a solo deep dive ?

[balmy stone]

This one has sabotage so yeah probably

[vital cloak]

Yeah, they range from 45 minutes to 1 hour

Depends on the mission type

[wraith shard]

i c

[lilac apex]

so who is the one trolling everyone with all the sabos in deep dives?

[wraith shard]

rnjesus

actually idk if it's entirely random or has any dev input

[radiant halo]

sometimes dives are specifically chosen seed wise but a lot of the time it's just rng

[lime meteor]

I dont think devs have time to manually make deep dives

we are just getting cucked by rng but honestly sabo isn't even that bad now

might be good to get it on DD and edd anyway because of the amount of nitra in it

So I don't mind

[wraith shard]

it's not bad just kinda sick of playing it

but w/e

[lime meteor]

some treat it as if Sabo showing up is the end of the world

[thorny gull]

Remember that time when DD had 150 Morkite mining and spawned exactly 150 morkite?

[wraith shard]

yeah that's definitely a massive overreaction

[lime meteor]

we are lucky not to be in season 2 where sabo was just dumb to play unless u counterpicked the robots

[wraith shard]

sabo isn't hard it's just, long and I don't like fighting robots and I've played it a ton already

[lime meteor]

and also caves being complexity 3 made it alot of running

[lime meteor]

rn Sabo can be beat in like 20-25 mins

so it isn't that long

[wraith shard]

sure it could be worse but w/e

it's fine

I hate escort tho

again not hard, just, annoying...

I'm a massive PE enthusiast

on every class

[lilac apex]

only escorts i do are for assignments or dds, avoid it otherwise

[wraith shard]

yeah same, unless it's like a fat double xp+modifier/s

but even then I always prioritize assignments

[glossy walrus]

people also don't tend to remember that there are only 8 mission types for the primary objective and there's 6 slots for e/dd, so the chance of one of them being sabo isn't low

something like a 55% chance of at least one sabo

and a single one is all that's needed for the complaints to start flying

[lime meteor]

escort is the highest base XP im p sure so if u see double XP there do it and you get massive profit

[fickle wraith]

escort with double xp 2 stopper and double negative mutators with 30% bonus - the dream

[lime meteor]

Litho warning is 50% so litho warning + 2xp is dream

[lime meteor]

this can't happen

[fickle wraith]

i bet i saw positive with double negative... but if it cannot, then yeah sure litho warning + double xp is better

[fickle wraith]

just checked the wiki and quote "A mission currently can have at most two Warnings and one Anomaly." so it can actually happen and it will be better than litho outbreak by 10%
quite the rare sight though.

[golden vale]

idk. is that with a mission generator or in the actual spawn pool?

[fickle wraith]

its data from the wiki. so i think pretty legit info source

[coral pond]

wiki
legit

[fickle wraith]

afaik its constantly updated so uhh yeah why doubt? but yes, sure of course, untill one of sides can prove the other wrong we have to put this on hold...

[fast stratus]

Not at the same time

Can't have 3 things at once

[fickle wraith]

it doesnt specify that it says at most 2 warnings and one anomaly doesnt say they can never happen together

[fast stratus]

Well I'm telling you it never happens

Want me to add it to the wiki?

[fickle wraith]

are you a dev?

[fast stratus]

Devs don't edit the wiki

[fickle wraith]

but how else you can be certain you have to be the dev to know thing for sure

[lime meteor]

If it's from the fandom it's false

lol

[fast stratus]

I'm sure it never happens because it had never been seen by anyone

[lime meteor]

cuz that can't happen

Fandom is a dumpster

[fast stratus]

I'm not "certain" in the rigorous sense of the world

But yes, without being a dev that can't be achieved

And even then, bugs exist

[lime meteor]

I'm 100% certain a double mutator AND an anomaly

Can't be active at once

[fast stratus]

Not sure what's the point of this, it never happened and most likely never will

Coping about probability isn't productive because literally anything is technically possible

[lime meteor]

It can't happen tho there is no probability

[short oar]

who the hell put industrial sabotage on the last stage of the edd with rich atmosphere and regenerating bugs.

[lime meteor]

probability won't change a 0% chance

[fickle wraith]

@fast stratus ikr, point was there was a discussion about litho outbreak and x2 xp is the best xp combo. since i knew there are double warnings they could give 10% more if they were possible, but seems like its not possible, although i doubt you can be sure without being the one that coded the game. but whatever, i accept that response with sad face because i was hoping it is possible

[lime meteor]

I've played enough double mutators in my career and none had an anomaly

[fast stratus]

It's easy to be sure when you have 1k hours in the game and have never seen a mission with 3 modifiers

[lime meteor]

haunted cave low O2, sheild disruption lethal enemies

if I can see these combos then I should see a double mutator with anomaly

[fickle wraith]

im half that so i guess i havent played enough haha

[fast stratus]

A little off topic, but 0 probability doesn't mean impossible

Technically

[lime meteor]

🤓

u know what I mean dude

[fast stratus]

Barely

Really I wouldn't call it "certain" until it's at least datamined, but for purposes of a discussion about max xp its def good enough

And dataminig a negative is probably impossible in most cases

[wide mulch]

how do we kill unknown horror?

[wraith shard]

you cant

[quick compass]

Regular deep dive is more manageable than id thought it would be, how tough is the elite one? I know that one has a higher difficulty ceiling

[lilac apex]

reg deep dive is a walk in the park usually

elite deep dive all depends on the week

[hollow citrus]

if you can handle haz 5 missions you can do an EDD

maybe sabo is a difficulty spike as well if you aren't used to that also

[graceful sonnet]

EDD first level, morkite blends in so we had to backtrack at one point, there's a few cave leeches in the first big room, next big room has a brood nexus or whatever, along with a nemesis

my team wasn't too great so we died evacing lol

[left crane]

sup

[hollow dune]

What's this week's edd lookin like

[random rampart]

check pinned messages

[hollow dune]

I forget how to look at pinned

[random rampart]

check your dms

[hollow dune]

Got it now anyway

[past dove]

I kinda don't know how to really use the experimental plasma charger thing. I'm better with the subata or the wave cooker but I'm at a loss with the EPC

[random rampart]

if i predict the aim of this message and its following convo right, i say this belongs to #drg-chat. this chat is about deep dives, a mission type made of 3 stages that gets changed each week

[past dove]

oh, my bad

[green mica]

Yeah it's not that bad solo

[rancid stream]

Do we have industrial sabotage on this weeks deep dive?

[random rampart]

#deep-dive-discussion message

[uncut violet]

oops wrong chat

[vapid lily]

man these deep dives were nice

I preferred the gen of the first salt pit room, all the narrow tunnels were really unique (and it made it harder for the Ghost to get anywhere lol)

not a humongous fan of the fact both missions end with Industrial Sabotage but, hey, a final boss is a final boss and it was pretty cool ending the quest by slaying a terrible machine

[burnt sandal]

That's the neat trick : you don't.

[hoary viper]

This week edd was kinda easy ngl

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[arctic mist]

Agreed.

It's fun, though.

[tired stirrup]

was there a crassus on one of the deep dives this week?

[balmy stone]

They only spawn on normal missions I believe

[tired stirrup]

sh

ah

[severe current]

Hey how do I reinvite my disconnected friend?

[wraith shard]

u can just send an invite again i think, idk how deep dive works 😅

[balmy stone]

On playstation they should be able to find your game from your profile or group and rejoin as long as you’re on the same stage

I don’t think invites worked when I ran into this issue but I’m not 100% on it, joining the game from your profile should let your friend in though

[wraith shard]

so, do u get more loot when u do elites ?

[young vault]

Elite deep dives are a whole nother level compared to normal ones

[vapid lily]

honestly not really

I had more trouble on the normal Deep Dive then the Elite and I did the Elite solo

though the on-site refining was not made better by the dreadnought we were not equipped to fight and we basically all just ran in fear

[young vault]

I found the normal one to be cake walks while I can't even get one good elite game

[vapid lily]

that on-site refining mission can be described very easily

1. we get there
2. setting up pipelines
3. swarm!
4. blackbox
5. Dreadnought???
   6.WHO STARTED THE REFINERY
   7.Panicked Screaming and General Mania
   8.AH FUCK AH FUCK GO GO GO
6. NO GUNNER
7. GUNNER COME ON LET'S GTFO
   11.Panicked Fleeing and General Fear
8. get inside the drop pod right as the Dreadnought launches a fireball

[young vault]

Mine:
1.we get there
2. Oh fuck why is it so low
3. Setting up pipes
4. B o X
5. Refining
6. Sweep waves
7. Escape

I have genuinely never gotten a dreadnought there

[vapid lily]

yeah, well it happened to me :(

I also got got by BOTH of the leeches in the Weald DD

seperate times

[plucky bane]

the normal one was really easy too

[golden vale]

i swear to karl all this talk of the dd/edd being easy will bring us true horrors like low 02 haunted cave PE and continued sabotages

[misty quail]

bro my team almost failed first stage : )

[half dragon]

haunted cave is super easy though

imo the worst modifier (without thorns) is swarmageddon

[untold quail]

lethal enemies in edd would be much worse

[wraith shard]

worst modifier is low o2, not cos it's hard, it's just boring and unfun

[versed hinge]

It's not boring

Just hard

I personally wouldn't be bored if I was constantly suffocating

[wraith shard]

best modifier is haunted cave cos it's actually fun and interesting

[versed hinge]

No that one's just scary

[coral pond]

I gotta agree with bunker boi

Low 02 isn't hard, it just slows you down and extends the mission really

Haunted cave keeps you more alert about the mission than low 02 does

[wraith shard]

haunted cave is probably the most interesting negative modifier

also you can make it do funny demoman bagpipes with mods

[coral pond]

I like exploder infestation a bit more cause of mods too. Just hearing 7 different "coca cola espuma" go off in my ear as i'm looking at the map gives a lil bit of an adrenaline rush

[wraith shard]

I use demoman exploders, its rly funny

[hollow citrus]

I wish there was a mod to make the ghost less transparent but it's overall ok

[wraith shard]

you usually hear it before you see it anyway

and theres mods to make it even more audible

[steel python]

I might consider doing the EDD again just to have a detonator wipe the dreadnought from existence

Which makes you wonder how strong that explosion really is when it turns a hive guard into atoms in an instant

[wraith shard]

bulks death aoe is 10k dmg in 1 player haz 1 and 68k dmg in 4 player haz 5 but falls off down to 0.1% at the edge of the radius

[austere axle]

There is tho...

Also what's this week's deep dive looking like

[steel python]

By Karl...

If only engineers could harness that power with a new overclock

[steel python]

Check the pins.

Overall, okay all around

Hope you like sabotage for the third week in a row

[wraith shard]

its sabo but the DD has rly cool cave gen and the EDD is easy so all around ok

[austere axle]

I mean mission descriptions don't match gameplay. You could have an easy mission but be screwed on cave gen.

Then again that's good to see.

[rustic harbor]

is there any build channel here?

interested in setups

[wraith shard]

you can just ask questions in drg chat

or wherever really

the channels arent super strict about topic so long as its drg related

[hollow citrus]

ooh do you know what it's called?

[wraith shard]

https://drg.old.mod.io/team-fortress-2-demoman-voice-for-glyphid-exploder this is the mod trust me

you'll never get surprised by the ghost ever again

[austere axle]

The one I use is Better Unknown Horror Indicator because it turns orange as you get closer but the Horrific Horror gives it visible skin with the same color.

[fallow niche]

i dunno, watching people wander off forgetfully, then start running back towards an o2 source all panicked is some of the best entertainment you can get.

especially when its some clown trying to run 2 caves ahead and then dying hilariously

[wraith shard]

yeah but I'm the forgetful one lmao

adhd moment

tho yes I imagine it would be incredibly funny from that perspective

still hate it tho

[steel python]

On any mission other than PE, unknown horror sometimes ends up leaving massive smooth tunnels to the upper layers of the cave which are very helpful when the drop pod arrives

[lime meteor]

yeah that's why you should try to book it in haunted cave mining missions for easy tunnels

[hollow oxide]

Man… i was doing a Deep Dive with a squad, and at the third stage

I saw how a scout (we had 2) called a supply pot and took 3 supplies. I was grabbing the forth one, but once i pointed it out…

[wraith shard]

at the 3rd stage you won and everyone lived happily ever after :3

[hollow oxide]

He told me to suck his d and kicked me out…

[wraith shard]

😭

[hollow oxide]

:(((

[wraith shard]

this is why I host or just play with friends

[hollow oxide]

Like yeah, like we were just starting the third stage and he decided to kick me? Cuz of what??

[hollow oxide]

Aalright i will keep that in mind! :DD

That was the story of the rudest DRG player i have ever met

But in the end, i got my beer, tipped my favorite bartender and everything ended well

[wraith shard]

I mean that's just what I do, you do you. But I'd rather not deal with cunts and have 0 power to do anything about them

I am the wielder of ban hammer

[hollow oxide]

Yes and you are right about it, i do feel bad for wasting my time because of this, but its alright

[wraith shard]

yeah I'd feel pretty shit as well but you gain nothing from dwelling on it so do your best to move on

[steel python]

Warm yourself up with some Burning Love, it's still cold on the rig

[modern ocean]

So question, planning on doing first deep dive later - can you configure the hazard level or is it set in stone for that seed

[wraith shard]

no1 answered my question-

huh

[burnt sandal]

set in stone, and the seed doesn't matter

[wraith shard]

does elite deep dives give more loot than the normal one ?

[burnt sandal]

it gives the same reward

blank core + overclock core + cosmetic core

[wraith shard]

a, no elites it is 😀

[lime meteor]

Elites still give cores if u complete normal

[burnt sandal]

you should still try it

[lime meteor]

So if u dont do it you lose out on 2 ocs

[burnt sandal]

It's always more core

[lime meteor]

and 1 cosmetic

[wraith shard]

well, sounds harder so why should i? i dont wanna risk my progress

huh

you dont lose any progress for failing missions

judging from that fact they usually take around 45minutes-1 hour

[lime meteor]

you get the core rewards a second time

[burnt sandal]

regular Deep Dives are hazard 3/3.5/3.5 for each level respectively
Elite Deep Dives are 4.5/5/5.5

[lime meteor]

It's as simple as that

[wraith shard]

? its the same reward ???

doing DD and EDD is 6 cores

waitwaitwaitwait- what ?

[lime meteor]

I think your lost

[wraith shard]

i already did the deep dive today

yeah lol

[lime meteor]

You need a map

[wraith shard]

yh

what ?

[burnt sandal]

You get the same thing, but a second time

[wraith shard]

do the elite deep dive and you get 3 MORE cores

whats the point of that 👀

is this a troll

[burnt sandal]

Since you can't redo a deep dive to get more reward, it's one way to get more cores per week

[lime meteor]

Well u want to make the overclock grind last less longer and have more of a chance to get something you want right

It's not rocket science

[wraith shard]

so if i do the same deep dive, i get the same loot ?

no

[burnt sandal]

hold on

[lime meteor]

Learn to get good at game = faster overclockcs

[wraith shard]

🗿

[lime meteor]

🗿

[wraith shard]

then what were u trying to say

e

[burnt sandal]

I'm going to just throw the wiki around, it's well written in there

[coral pond]

Man i feel like i'm watching someone just bounce a ball against a wall repeatedly

[wraith shard]

I havent missed a single DD/EDD since unlocking them I want my OC's

and yeah qwerty is right, the shorter the OC grind the better

[lime meteor]

I missed a DD cuz I didn't feel like doing it again after getting kicked stage 3 and I didnt feel like playing sleeper haz for a cosmetic core

[burnt sandal]

Both variants of the Deep Dive will provide the same rewards from the same reward pool. Each reward can only be received once per variant, totaling six rewards every week.

hope it's clearer that way

[wraith shard]

i still dont get it- so i can only do deep dives 5 more times or itll repeat? e

bruh

[coral pond]

What

[lime meteor]

🗿

[wraith shard]

i dont get it

[burnt sandal]

Okay I'm going to give an example :

[coral pond]

It's like it's just in one ear and out the other

[lime meteor]

I could never have the patience for people this lost

[wraith shard]

bless ser pounce for having more patience than anyone else here

[burnt sandal]

Let's say you do the normal deep dive : you get a blank core, an overclock and a cosmetic core.

You can do that once a week only.

If you want more overclocks and cores, you have to do the Elite deep dive and the Weekly core hunt. Redoing the normal deep dive won't give you more reward.

[coral pond]

There are 2 deep dives, regular and elite;

Do the deep dive - get 3 cores

Do the elite deep dive - get 3 more cores

Any subsequent attempts after completion will not get you any more cores

[wraith shard]

ohhhhh

wow, i did NOT get that

mk i get it now

[coral pond]

It's like you were trying to fish in a desert

[wraith shard]

everyone lived happily ever after

[burnt sandal]

It's weird to explain

[coral pond]

Just completely missed the objective there

[wraith shard]

so when does it update? every week ?

ye

[coral pond]

Yes

[burnt sandal]

yeah

[lime meteor]

time gated lol

[wraith shard]

or only the mission changes every week

[burnt sandal]

every thursday, 1pm CET

[wraith shard]

thank fuck for promo core hunt reset

[burnt sandal]

the seed changes every week and is randomly generated

[lime meteor]

drg the only reason u should be happy it's Thursday

[tall meadow]

You were literally spared from my long wall of text because the others types faster than me

Reading this whole convo was painful

I was already halfway explaining step by step , piece by piece using numerical numbers

[wraith shard]

numerical numbers

[tall meadow]

With oranges and apples

[lime meteor]

1 vs one

[tall meadow]

And even a fruit example

Man I’m going back to sleep

[lime meteor]

bro wtf

[wraith shard]

what time is it for bl4nkets i wonder 👀

its around midnight

same here

[tall meadow]

7:10am not enough sleep

[wraith shard]

a

i c

huh

your steam says malaysia

well, 11:11pm rn

[tall meadow]

Originated from there doesn’t mean anything in current location

Most folks think I’m from Germany anyways

[wraith shard]

HuH

[burnt sandal]

I thought you were from NA

[tall meadow]

I already learnt to speak German to screw with people further who believes I’m German

[tall meadow]

I’m full of mysteries

[burnt sandal]

to be fair, I've never asked

[tall meadow]

Or never played with me

So fair

[burnt sandal]

it's funnier to assume

yup

[tall meadow]

All good

All the Americans who never stepped out of the country or been to the opposite end of the world thinks I’m German already whenever I VC with them so no worries

It’s become a running joke for me now kek

[tall meadow]

I am definitely in NA now anyways

On that note, if someone needs help with EDD again, I’ll finally be available tmr or so onwards so just ping if need

[bold prawn]

Hello.
I have an issue in deep dive. Not really that I mind but umm fps is so bad. Can some1 tell me a good advice?

[wraith shard]

ppl think im chinese american even tho im filipino 👀

[young vault]

Good pc

Aquire it

[bold prawn]

Not that

[tall meadow]

You get that a lot if you’re SEA and in a US lobby

[bold prawn]

I have big amount of loot, I can show you my screenshot if you want it .

In one place

[young vault]

So... you caused it yourself

[tall meadow]

If there is huge amount of gold or mineral chunks in an area

Yes it will chug your game a lot

[bold prawn]

I'll post it in gallery you can see yourself.

[young vault]

I think we grasp the concept here tbh

But sure

[modern ocean]

🙏

[young vault]

Mfw no 4 hazard

[bold prawn]

There you can take a look

[young vault]

^

[bold prawn]

I know. But. Never seen so much.

Well at least umm I'll be quite WE'RE RICH! at the end.

I'll come back in around 10h.

[random rampart]

there is haz4.

||... point 5 ||

[thick yew]

I did my first deep dive this week. Managed to go in with a Pots O' Gold. So much gold!

[lucid sinew]

Correct me if I'm wrong 'cause I'm pretty new to this but the EDD this week doesn't look too awful?

[vocal haven]

Deep dives lesss gooo

[random tree]

Is it possible to clear a solo DD start-to-finish and still be a greenbeard

[open warren]

Ok so
At what point in time should i try edds?
Im fairly new with only 1 promotion total for the time

[modern ocean]

I did my first deep dive earlier. Not bad though, ahem, could've been done a bit quicker if the driller... did any drilling! Haunted cave mission can, frankly, take a hike

I'm fairly new but I can't quite say I've ever seen a driller not drill for a morkite extraction before. That was... frustrating

Also they were wearing glyphid armor and had a freezethrower so they both kept shooting the rest of us and we kept mistaking him for an enemy. Anyway then they dropped out of the game and the rest of it became much less difficult with just scout and engie.

(moral of the story maybe don't play pubs)

[humble sage]

This week's EDD ran much smoother than the last two weeks imo. It was fun too

Teammates were absolute lads, and skilled, which was helpful. I think we each only had 1 or 2 deaths by the end of the edd. I was very fortunate

[whole jasper]

Do deep dives and elite deep dives give matrix core or if I already did the normal one the elite one won't give me anything?

[severe current]

They both give matrix cores.

I usually try to solo the first stage of the elite deep dive so I can get that blank matrix core.

[whole jasper]

alright thx for the info I might give it a shot with my friend 🙂

[pulsar stream]

Whats the difficulty on deep dives?

[hazy lily]

Increases with each stage:
Normal DD: Haz 3, Haz 3.5, Haz 3.5
Elite DD: Haz 4.5, Haz 5, Haz 5.5

I believe

[pulsar stream]

5.5?

[severe current]

Yup. It's called elite for a reason.

[hazy lily]

Yeah, the modifers that scale enemies are half a step higher

[pulsar stream]

i wonder if i could beat it solo with engineer (i have not touched engineer ever)

[hazy lily]

Can you solo haz 5?

[pulsar stream]

Idk

[severe current]

You need to promote your engineer before you can take it on a deep dive.

[pulsar stream]

aw damn

I thought it was promote one unlock for all

[severe current]

I've solo'd the first stage of an elite before because I'm in the middle of the overclock grind.

[hazy lily]

You can just roll the dice with a random squad

[neat charm]

keep in mind that one promote does unlock overclocks for all classes

[hazy lily]

Or find someone in #lfg-steam/ #lfg-xbox-microsoft / #lfg-playstation

[severe current]

Nope. But unlocking overclocks are unlocked for all.

[neat charm]

you just need one mod in each tier

[severe current]

As long as you upgrade your weapons fully too.

[pulsar stream]

I know that, i just wanted to see if i could solo an edd with a class i havent touched through the power of random bullsh.

[hazy lily]

Could always try solo-ing with no upgrades

[severe current]

You also need to complete all three stages of a normal DD before you can do an Elite. I'm pretty sure that's an unlock for all classes too.

[hazy lily]

i don't believe this is true

[neat charm]

it is

[severe current]

As in, if you do one deep dive, you unlock elites for all classes

[neat charm]

i dont know if it applies to joining lobbies though

[hazy lily]

Not sure about the first bit, but I'm pretty sure you can run edds with any class

Ahh

Misread

[pulsar stream]

Yeah ive done a deep dive

My first deep dive i did solo

[severe current]

Sorry I used really ambiguous language there

[hazy lily]

No worries :)

[feral aspen]

I found it so difficult to complete EDD

I have promoted four jobs to two stars and mostly played at least h4

[severe tusk]

If you can ace Haz 4 runs, EDDs shouldn't be too much of a challenge.

[thick yew]

Greenbeard here: what's EDD stand for?
Elite Deep Dive, derp!

[jolly obsidian]

last EDD mission was really easy the caretaker was in a large open room and fired no sniper turrets

[charred scroll]

just did my first DD, i thought it would be a lot harder than it was because i was solo but it was smooth sailing the whole way!

[lucid sinew]

Guess I jinxed myself 'cause this EDD is not going well.

[wraith shard]

same here, just used all my revives nothign wrong with that 👀

[lucid sinew]

2nd try of EDD successful. Flawless run, no downed dwarves. Night and day difference from the first try.

[wraith shard]

how did u guys finish this first stage of the elite deep dive, morkite on azure field is gonna KILL ME, wheres da goddamn morkite ?!

play co-op and have a scout

could also install brighter objects mod

[wraith shard]

ooh, sounds good

[wraith shard]

ig i can be the scout myself

might be hard to solo scout EDD without good OC's but hf

oh right, i need to pormote my scout-

aaa

only my driller is promoted

[chilly iris]

finding morkite was kind of douchey this EDD, why you gotta put it next to a swarmer tunnel

[untold quail]

This EDD was very easy except the 1st time i got kicked by an angry russian after the 1st stage

[chilly iris]

Easy as a group i feel, unless you know where the morkite is it can get stressful

4 pairs of eyes and all

[untold quail]

yeah just run pubs and hope you dont get kicked randomly or 3 scouts

[chilly iris]

Scouts are ok, I'm usually the Scout meself but I'll swap to Gunner if there are a bunch

as long as they know how to use IFG or at least Cryos away from the team

[hollow citrus]

morkite in azure is just eye strain

[rain coral]

anything different in elite deep dives compared to normal deep dives in term of rewards?

[versed hinge]

Good question

[humble sage]

Nope

Same rewards

[fast stratus]

Here's what I found by searching "deep dives" on the wiki

"Extra experience from all sources except mission objectives is disabled. Assuming successful completion, a regular Deep Dive always awards 15 750 XP (and 1537 Performance Points), while an Elite Deep Dive always awards 20 250 XP (and 1731 Performance Points)."

[soft prairie]

Sounds about right

[trail bone]

EDD giving the same xp as one haz 5 escort is so depressing

like jeez you do 3 missions for the reward of 1

[grave hill]

Hello, can someone tell me why when I change characters on the task screen the orders to obtain their weapons do not appear?

[verbal nymph]

hey, bcs im not sure, if i finished Deep dive, can i just repeat it to get more cores?

[coral pond]

No, only get cores on first completion

[young vault]

After you finish a deep dive can you get the rewards for doing it again?

[sly cradle]

on next weeks dd yes

[young vault]

I mean the same

[golden vale]

you get the feeling of accomplishment if you beat it again

[young vault]

Not worth it

[dark schooner]

would it be wise to take bullet hell +magic bullets to this weeks regular deep dive?

[vague mica]

I mean, I wouldn't take Bullet Hell anywhere. Magic Bullets is a good compliment to the minigun though.

[golden vale]

atd

[gray hemlock]

just had a rando player level 200+ gunner pull 2 eggs in quick succession on edd without even asking

awesome

[buoyant wing]

having map knowledge helps if you're going for deep for speed

although considering how long it takes to get everything it usually comes naturally

[vagrant heron]

I played with some randoms the other night. 4 scouts for the meme.

It was awesome. Those guys were fast as shit. Objective focused. Popping dreadnoughts right away, then 10 seconds before the last one dies, both power stations start hacking. Off to the caretaker and bam, shields go down, supplies placed, LFG.

Point being

No one confirmed anything the whole dive.

Just go go go

And it worked. Not saying it's a good idea, but it was fun.

[gray hemlock]

the issue is, this gunner was ass at the game

yet he was trying to do that shit

the other 2 teammates weren't that good either

[vagrant heron]

Lmaoooo

[spark yacht]

Sometimes the lobby is just in sync with each other and it goes like a hot knife through butter

[gray hemlock]

managed to beat it with 2 gunner teammates + me a driller

ice spear goes hard for caretaker

[untold drum]

Hey I’ve just been wondering is it possible to help the union event on Xbox when it’s around

[charred scroll]

when does the DD refresh

[coral pond]

thursdays weekly

[hot orchid]

anyone still need to do the EDD?

[main glacier]

i wish the person who chose for this weeks first deep dive to be a haunted cave with a circular cave design and Aquarq collecting a very

Retrograde Ejaculation

[radiant rain]

@hot orchid Yes!

[dark schooner]

This week is hell

How many deep dives and EDD have had sabatoges as of late

[wraith shard]

people when sabo 😭🥹😿😢😡😠😱😨

[coral pond]

you're just as bad

[wraith shard]

I dislike sabo

I dont think its end of the fucking world

and it doesn't make the DD's "hell"

unless it's haz 5 shield disruption then I kinda understand

[coral pond]

i don't really think it makes them hell either, but it is annoying as fuck seeing them every week. Not to mention the rate of which they're in promotions and core hunts

[coral pond]

since s3 began, i think there has only been 1 or 2 weeks where sabo wasn't in one of either the dd or edd

[wraith shard]

yeah I wish we got them less but with only 7 mission types it's likely you'll see it atleast once each week

[coral pond]

once a week would be fine

but i've done like 6 this week cause the promo core hunt reset thing

[wraith shard]

I wish every assignment and DD had PE 😇

[coral pond]

i'd take that every day over caretaker lol

[wraith shard]

I love PE

so much

fav mission type by far

on every class

[coral pond]

i don't have a favorite rn. It used to be sabo, but s3 made that so stale for me

[wraith shard]

LOL

rip

[jolly obsidian]

I enjoy salvage missions the most

Point extraction is fun too

Industrial sabotage is the bane of my existence though every assignment board quest seems to have it

[quick compass]

If im building pipes, im happy

Pipelayer for days.

[dusky ruin]

I had the EDD generate different terrain from yesterday to today, is that expected? Did the update do that?

[vague mica]

On-Site Refining is my favorite.

Sabo is just tedious and eats ammo.

PE can go really well, or really bad.

[brisk pagoda]

just like point extract, youre meant to do sabotage fast. the longer you take to push each phase the more adds he will shit out.

[vague mica]

Doesn't stop it from being tedious and an ammo sink.

[dark schooner]

i bet all my bismor we got a sabo when it resets tomorrow

[open warren]

Noted

[dark schooner]

I will eat my bismor if we don’t have a sabo

[hollow citrus]

I cannot wait for the inevitable double sabo week

[restive cedar]

I'm kinda new to deep dives. Is the number below the deep dive mission the hours till next deep dive or is it something else?

[unkempt saffron]

The one thats counting down?

[shadow fern]

Green beard Engineer here, finished my first deep dive today and it went surprisingly well. Stress inducing but good. Still had 400+ Nitra left.

Now my question is Elite Deep Dives. How much more of a threat is it in comparison? Will I constantly be in a realm of pain?

Got one day left till reset and I'm really contemplating giving it a go. However, seems like I should do with with a full team.

[slow mason]

Elite Deep Dive: Haz 4.5.png Hazard 4.5 Haz 5.png Hazard 5 Haz 5.5.png Hazard 5.5 — 2 or 3 Warnings (Total, max of 1 per stage) hope this helps

[sage harbor]

Regular DD are only haz 3 for the first stage and haz 3.5 for the last 2 stages

[shadow fern]

Got it. I've done plenty of hatz3 and 4 a few times but don't know if its recommended solo. At least for elite deep dives.

In you guy's experience is the gap in difficulty that high from regular to elite? Despite the actual numbers

[sage harbor]

Yeah. I rarely die in DDs, but failing a EDD is pretty common. Usually the third stage.

[glossy walrus]

it matches the numbers, if you're comfortable on haz4/5 then edd isn't too bad

if you aren't, well, now's the time to jump in to try to clear at least the 1st stage for the blank, preferably 2nd stage if possible

[shadow fern]

I figured that's what I'd end up doing. Running it for the blank at the very least.

How are your feelings on it solo? I would like to finds groups for it however, given I am a somewhat fresh player jumping into it my luck may not be the best.

Also the only good overclock I got for the engineer so far was the Voltage crossover for the breach cutter so I am practically vulnerable in that department.

I ran the Loki for the regular dive and it went surprisingly well. The Caretaker was the only issue but even then it wasn't so bad.

[hollow citrus]

wouldn't recommend doing EDD unless you're comfortable with haz 5

[shadow fern]

Gotcha. I'll mainly go for the blank and have it as a learning experience.

[hollow citrus]

and difficulty scales, so duo or trio might be easier but everyone has to pull their weight

I have had some very bad experiences with newbies in EDDs lol

[shadow fern]

Do tell me about it. Ever since I got into the game I've been doing what I can to not be dead weight. Researching has always been fun for me on these types of games.

[sage harbor]

The breach cutter is great at base. I just run extra ammo for the OC. I also run Lok1 with seeker rounds.

[hollow citrus]

other than that, getting used to mission types, biomes, cave navigation etc. will help. in DDs and EDDs the faster you go the easier it gets esp for missions like PE.

[shadow fern]

I've heard great things about the BC and I've been using it ever since. I got the Voltage OC for it to be able to complement the Stubby and Loki ailment capabilities. Base without a doubt is great! Melts dreads like no other. Aside from the Refractor perhaps, I love using it too. I feels great with the Warthog auto210. Now if only I can get at least once decent OC for that shotty...

[shadow fern]

What saved me during this weeks DD was that I already had the cave layout for stage 1 on a promotion mission so that was nice. The Ghost Exploder scared the ever living shit out of me.

Had I not known from previous research that its untouchable and just needs to be avoided at all times I would've ended my dive then and there

[hollow citrus]

yea, as mentioned DDs and EDDs will always have warnings, so getting used to those (esp the more annoying ones like shield disruption) will also help.

PE is also unique in that there are only a few general cave shapes for the main cave, with side caves being randomized but also in similar locations every time. So the more PE missions you do, you'll start to recognise and know where to look for aquarqs the moment you start the mission.

[shadow fern]

I will keep this in mind thank you!

Shield disruption sounds like something I'll never try willingly!

[sage harbor]

It just takes good game instincts like kiting and not taking fall damage. You do get double health and red sugar is more common so it isn't impossible.

[shadow fern]

Oh okay, that's actually reassuring. Figured it would be a nightmare if the only difference was no shield. I saw a guy do a Hatz5 SD mission running the Grenade Launcher and Mini shells Warthog auto210. Barely made it. Was terrifying for a green beard such as I.

On the Topic of the Warthog, what's your favorite OC for it? If not most recommended. My main reason for wanting to grind OCs now is for the chance to get a solid OC for the shotty and have it be truly viable.

[drowsy holly]

magnet pellet

[sage harbor]

I haven't tested the warthog out that much. I know mini shells is popular with full auto builds.

MPA is good if you like headshots and weakpoints.

[shadow fern]

It's a fight between Mini shells and Cycle overload from what I've seen. But Magnetic Pellet Alignment is also considered good.

[shadow fern]

I was thinking that would be one of the most solid ones given the downside is hardly a downside at all. At least in my experience.

[shadow fern]

🙏 I appreciate you

What I lean to personally would be the magnet, but cycle also seems extremely satisfying to use but the range will be a problem.

[sage harbor]

I suck at aiming so I take the lok1 with seeker rounds.

[unkempt saffron]

Mini shells is meh, best use is for turret whip but cycle overload can do that too

[shadow fern]

If I get mini I'll no doubt go for it for the bonus. Would anyone say a no OC Warthog is viable for EDD? If not I'll stick to the Stubby/loki & BC electric builds for now.

[shadow fern]

I feel ya haha

[shadow fern]

That's what I thought as well. Extre pellets are dope but idk if theres enough balance to its looses even with Turret whip but that's just me. I'm practically a nooby so I look for you alls thoughts. I greatly appreciate them!

[unkempt saffron]

Any none oc weapon is viable for edds to an extent, just use whichever weapon youre most comfortable with for the edd or that you think will work well for what you will encounter in the edd

[sage harbor]

Yeah OCs are just tools. You just need to find out what is more comfortable for you to use

[wraith shard]

god bless OC's, without them this game would be long dead

[shadow fern]

Good to know, I'll take note of that. Given this will be a relatively new experience for me in Hatz 5 I'll be bolting around with the stubby. Loki is great but always gives me some anxiety at base lol but that's just for DDs.

[wraith shard]

one you get cycle overload you'll never look back

[shadow fern]

OCs and the lovely cosmetics. Sad fella like me will spent days on end getting that one sexy skin for a dope weapon with a dope mod

Custom engineered / Mechanized + Dark Decent for the Warthog gots me foaming! I'll be grinding days on end to get those let alone good OCs for it.

[sage harbor]

It isn't the worst grind, if you focus one dwarf.

[shadow fern]

I'll mark those words the second I get my hands on the thing

[shadow fern]

I'll certainly stick to engineer till I get the my dream set up on it.

[wraith shard]

thanks to core hunt reset on promo, getting OC's is massively less cringe rn

[shadow fern]

From what I heard, I only need to do one mission on promo, then abandon and the Core mission will reset for me?

Got another 9 levels till my Tier 2 promotion so I have quite a bit of grinding to do till I can abuse that as well haha

[wraith shard]

no

u need to finish the assignment

[shadow fern]

Ah so it's only one extra run. Good nonetheless.

[wraith shard]

promos are 4 missions

[shadow fern]

For real? Did my first one and it was 9 missions! I guess that it was the introductory phase.

A shame I can't send screenshots here. Someone must've been a goober to have it locked.

[wraith shard]

thats not a promo asignment

you get a promo assignment after a class reaches lvl 25

then you promote and it goes back to lvl 1 and you get +1 rank to that class

[restive cedar]

Yeah? There's like one below the mission select and one on the top right corner

[wraith shard]

and keep all progress

[shadow fern]

I'm dumb lmao I was looking at the "Breach the Core" assignment.

Thank you for the information

I'll have to get another 9 levels till I get my next promotion set. Currently have a 1 star Engineer.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[open warren]

Question:
Whats the time the pinned message here needs to update after a new rotation begins?

[hollow citrus]

usually after the reset, people will do the DD and report the stages. it usually takes less than an hour for all the new info to come in

[tiny laurel]

Is spinning death or return to sender better for boss killing

[drowsy holly]

depends

if its hiveguard spin to win. or if you can get your peeps to hold it still in the spin

[grim glacier]

hyperprop PGL and shard diffractor will still have an easier time of boss damage, further compounded by only the twins having breakable armor plates

[sage whale]

will i get matrix cores if I abort mission on the third part?

[soft prairie]

You would only get the first 2 cores, the third one that's aborted will not be obtained until completed or reset

[cloud tide]

Completed my first deep dive yesterday.

[zenith ingot]

New miner here, got my first promo recently, I was told the weekly core hunts were bugged. Is this true or nah?

[radiant halo]

i believe they're still "bugged" yes, but that's only for promotions. dives still only give you a blank, weapon oc, and cosmetic core once

[hushed rune]

come to think of it, this entire game is "bugged"...

...I'll see myself out

[plucky bane]

finally

[plucky bane]

how is it bugged?

[grim glacier]

completing promotion assignments resets the weekly core hunt, making it farmable

[devout solstice]

Oh shit, core hunt had reappeared for me yesterday and I wasn't sure why; I didn't realize this is what happened

That makes sense

[grim glacier]

its been around since the start of season 3, safe to assume its time is either running out or its not going anywhere anytime soon

make the most of ir

[devout solstice]

That's the plan! Gotta get my engie nuke overclock somehow, lol

[plucky bane]

farming it rn

good thing I recently promoted after doing the assignment

[hushed rune]

by my beard... I thought I was just losing track of time and the weeks were passing so fast lmao

[grim glacier]

[misty quail]

When does the deep dive reset

[grim glacier]

17 hours and 28 minutes

[silk dragon]

wtf why have they changed the map layout?

it was different

[trail pivot]

pe still only gives you a handful of maps

[zenith ingot]

do loot bug plushies exist

[woeful niche]

yes

[woeful niche]

wdym

[next merlin]

do i get blank cores etc every deep dive? or once a week or smth

[woeful niche]

once a week

[zenith ingot]

i require.

[solar ravine]

anyone have trouble finding the last aquarq for stage 1 of the regular dive?

[coral pond]

It's on a dead end cave iirc

[dark schooner]

its in some random offshoot cave high up from the minehead

for anyone else struggling too

[solar ravine]

Yeah managed to find it

Thanks

[dire carbon]

I've seen that ppl weren't happy that both dives had sabotage in it, do dworfs really hate it that much?

[coral pond]

Imo, it's entirely cause of how often it's done paired with the time consumption

Even escort missions are done less often than sabos now

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[hushed sequoia]

it's too long of a mission

oc grind is already a long time

but now instead of getting a 5 minute 250 morkite mission you get a 25+ minute sabotage stage

[keen field]

anyone wanna do a deep dive

i cant do it on my own lol

[random rampart]

#lfg-steam

[silent fiber]

Heyo, im new, and wondering why everytime i want to join deepdives its all greyed out

[lofty parrot]

Can only join before they start. No late joins unless you disconnect

[silent fiber]

Ah gotcha

Ty ty

[lunar oar]

is deep dive/core hunt same for everyone each week? or random

[thorn jewel]

Dives are same per platform, not sure about any differences between platform, and core hunt pulls mission archetypes from the randomized 30 minute pulls/sets you get

[lunar oar]

i c

[shadow fern]

@sage harbor @unkempt saffron @hollow citrus Hey hey hey fellas! I did it!

Finished my first Elite deep dive solo first try and I'll never do it solo again! 😃

I gotta say. I was certainly not prepared for Hatz 5 whatsoever. I died within the first 5 minutes!

I ran with electric build Stubby (no OCs) and Breach cutter with the Voltage Crossover OC. And the shredder nades have saved me so many times.

The Caretaker and Hive guard had me yelping and hopping every 5 seconds. I fought them before but now that they're amplified in power it was absolutely terrifying.

Every single mission I lived by a hair with no more extra lives left. Too many times I've been literally one tap away from getting obliterated.

The sense of relief after finishing it all was astronomical. Had to take a breather! An arrogant green beard I was

As for the cores I got the Unstable Sludge Blast OC for Driller and frickin side burns again for gunner.

• I also pinged you all to thank you again for the tips and tricks the other night. Helped a ton.

[marble cape]

I'm running the current deep dive normal and I can't find the 7th aqua, I'm watching people run it on youtube and their cave looks completely diff to mine

like I'm missing an entire room with 2 aquas in it

[shadow fern]

Look all over the place because there are some sneaky holes/paths in that cave that you may not have noticed before that may have the last one. If you see a glow send out Bosco to nab it.

A few of my Aquas were right under my feet or up in the ceiling.

[marble cape]

I've compared a youtubers run to mine and he legit has a different cave to me I'm not going crazy and the room it leads into has a giant salt pillar in the middle of it where his doesn't

I've restarted twice with the same results

There isn't a 7th aqua in my cave I've checked the whole thing 4 times my rooms aren't the same as youtube did a patch mess up the deep dive for pc or something?

[tacit ravine]

Anyone have tips on soloing an EDD? I've tried it a couple times before, but I get wrecked. Probably a build mismatch with the week's stages, but I'm open to anything.

[dusky mauve]

Are you comfortable soloing haz 5 missions?

Its not really any different from that

If youre playing anything that is okay to good it shouldnt really matter what you bring

[tacit ravine]

Gotcha. So no particular class/build that is better for soloing haz 5?

[knotty wigeon]

Engineer with his shredders and turret will be a massive help but almost any class will work.

[shadow fern]

As Jupiter said Engineers support arsenal is amazing and saved my sorry ass many many times during my first elite deep dive today

But if you don't main him I wouldn't particularly recommend just switching to him without having good knowledge on what engineer has to offer as well as upgrades

If you're going in Solo upgrade Bosco as much as you can. 3 revive perks minimum. Iron will helps a ton too if you get some heals before the timer runs out

[weary narwhal]

Me omw to procrastinate until the last few hours to get all the weekly stuff done

[shadow fern]

I can't blame you. Finished both with less than a day to spare

[lavish dirge]

both deep dives sound pretty rough

how are they

[hollow citrus]

if you know how to do industrial sabo you should have no issues, rest of the stages are easy

[haughty shoal]

im waching for someone to do my first deep dive

i know the basics about it

but im scared of making one alone

[vagrant cipher]

after they made it so industrial sabotage is in everything, it feels like having a tattoo thats been put on with hot iron, you didnt want it but its there to stay

[wraith shard]

pretty easy

[shadow fern]

Regular felt somewhat easy but the jump to elite was a whole nothor Brute. At least for me first time in.

Solo EDD was hell, doable. But hell!

[spiral niche]

Can anyone tell me exact time when deep dives restarts?

[wraith shard]

Sure gimme a sec

[tacit ravine]

6hrs, 20min

5am CST

Don't really feel like trying to solo the EDD tonight. Probably going to be doing a group soon. If you're interested, keep tabs on the LFG-Steam chat.

[rustic wraith]

Yeah. I really used to like IS. Now it is just... Not this repetetitive thing again ._.

[tacit ravine]

It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't Stage 2/3 EDD every week 😅

[spiral niche]

Thanks!

[frozen quest]

IS is ez clap isleep, also would be nice to have haz6 or haz7 in casual modes

[burnt sandal]

that ain't happening

[frozen quest]

why

wouldn't it be easy to just spam more bugs

[burnt sandal]

because of the performances issues, because it would be completely unbalanced and would require a complete overhaul of the entire difficulty and of the weapons and because the number of people playing haz 5 is so little it's not worth the effort.

[chilly onyx]

More difficulties split the player base, which means less lobbies per difficulty

And not enough players play haz 5 anyway

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[frozen quest]

wym the number of people playing haz5 is little, I get swarmed by unpromoted lv 23 bots whenever I start a haz5

[burnt sandal]

Haz 5 is the least played hazard, tied in numbers with haz 1.

[frozen quest]

performance issues yes, but like why overhaul the entire difficulty and weapon system, just spam 20% more bugs 🥱

is there a statistic? I'd love to see actually

[burnt sandal]

even adding more bugs create a change for the balance. By adding more enemies, you're increasing the effectiveness of AoE weapons.

[burnt sandal]

No precise stats but the devs talked about it multiple times on Streams

they do have the stats but they don't share them in details

[lost jungle]

i mean we got modded for a reason

start getting into 6x2?

[cobalt moat]

sometimes i let them stay and see if they can hold up or not xd , if they can they get to earn their share of the gold

[lost jungle]

L

happens often

[cobalt moat]

Huh interesting, was this in the stats post they shared like yesterday?

[lost jungle]

its why i don't like hosting because it often gets to the point where i kinds of have to do everything myself

[lost jungle]

holy shit that's depressing

[vocal maple]

I mean it makes sense

[fast stratus]

They said it on devstreams

[lost jungle]

mfs when faced with the choice of

• get good grindset
• no effort

🗿

like i thought any normal person would atleast have a reason to improve at any game

[cobalt moat]

What was the most played? Haz4? If they shared it ofc

[lost jungle]

3*

it goes 3 4 2 5 1

iirc

i mean if u want a reference just look in lfg

[wraith shard]

bruh

pretty cringe

[fast stratus]

lfg is definitely skewed

[lost jungle]

prob

[wraith shard]

game is a complete snooze if you're not on haz 5+

[cobalt moat]

i thought there would be more h5 players xD but i can understand that some people wants to chill and kill bugs with other dwarves after a hard day of work

[lost jungle]

my issue with some of the playerbase is like when i host a haz5 lobby, i get people joining asking if its haz5

and then if they die enough they just say haz5 isnt for them

💀

[wraith shard]

omega

[lost jungle]

like mfs are unpromoted

[burnt sandal]

#deep-dive-discussion message

[lost jungle]

or have no game sense

or spatial awareness

and die to a base grunt

🗿

[wraith shard]

one time I had a chad unpromoted green beard in my haz 5 but thats about it

dude farmed

[cobalt moat]

Bruh why did i even ask answer was right there 😂

[lost jungle]

like i srg

ima make a new save file

and just smurf on it

[wraith shard]

LOL

[lost jungle]

ill leave it at blue level 168

and leg3 gunner

[wraith shard]

your main account level is 168?

[lost jungle]

my main save is 1013

[wraith shard]

gaming

[lost jungle]

unfortunately

around 560 of them are gunner

[wraith shard]

70 gunner promotions is prtety chad

[lost jungle]

im trying to get 100

[wraith shard]

nice

[lost jungle]

just as a milestone

[wraith shard]

then you can lay down and die peacefully

[lost jungle]

my goal is to become as good of a gunner player as i can

[wraith shard]

💪

[vague mica]

With a shield in hand.

[frozen quest]

I always let them stay, why would I not

everybody deserves a chance

I don't even mind if they die 20 times, makes it only more fun and challenging to me

some of them are really good, I appreciate them more if they don't rage quit after dying 4 times

[frozen quest]

tf is this

[wraith shard]

haz 6 with double enemies

[frozen quest]

didn't really mod until now, just installed seeing all minerals in team mod thing

but sounds good

[lost jungle]

a good go to build for gettinf started with it is burning hell + vb

[woeful patrol]

Sabo + Regenerative bugs on the horizon

[sly kettle]

Soon™

[wet cairn]

Hello everybody! The deep dives are gonna update in few minutes. Who is up for an elite one?

[random rampart]

your platform's lfg channel is preferable for this type of messages

[sly kettle]

Unfortunately, I work a few more hours.

[wet cairn]

I'm sorry, thanks

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone.

[oblique glen]

showtime?

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[oblique glen]

Showtime

[sly kettle]

Seeing how Muffin isn't online, I'll setup something basic in the meantime.

[woeful patrol]

Which level will be Sabo this time 🗿

[sly kettle]

Oh, nevermind.

Muffin's here.

[woeful patrol]

It's Muffin time

[nova hearth]

dat stage 1 sabo

[open warren]

Sabotage will be here

I bet my prae

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Glowing Comeback
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Classic) + 2 Eggs | No Mutators
Stage 2: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Elite Threat

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Covetous End
Stage 1: Recover Data Rack + Dreadnought Twins | No Mutators
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + Dreadnought Classic | Low Oxygen
Stage 3: Recover Data Rack + 150 Morkite | Mactera Plague

[fossil tulip]

💀

[woeful patrol]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH

[open warren]

Told ya

[fast stratus]

Incredibly based

[outer bloom]

🤦

[fast stratus]

1 more week of constant cope in #deep-dive-discussion

[woeful patrol]

Please no Twins

[open warren]

@dark schooner new deep dives
You now have lost all your bismor

[remote dragon]

a

[woeful patrol]

Hey Babe, wake up, new Sabo in EDD just dropped

[wraith shard]

WOOOOOOOOOOO SABO I FUCKING LOVE SABO

[fast stratus]

Sabo haters in shambles

[weary narwhal]

I deep dived into ur mom last night

[cobalt moat]

Another sabo xD

[wraith shard]

watching sabo haters lose their minds is funnier than me being annoyed it's sabo

[weary narwhal]

Agreed

[hollow citrus]

dd1 2 dread 2 eggs no modifiers

[fast stratus]

The highlight of my day is opening this channel and reading the cope

[wraith shard]

true

u can get 2 of the same mission type in one DD right?

[sly kettle]

Yep.

[weary narwhal]

I hope the devs find a way to put duplicate missions back to back and have all regular DD and EDD be sabatoge missions.

[fast stratus]

inb4 3 sabos in one DD

[wraith shard]

I hope EDD stage 3 is shield disruption sabo

[quiet mortar]

Yes, but not back to back
(So Stage 2 for Elite cannot be Sabotage)

[outer bloom]

Just waiting for Sabo, Drilldozer, Sabo

[wraith shard]

[woeful patrol]

Wait a minute

The EDD is on magma core

💀

[wraith shard]

pain

[sly kettle]

The floor is now lava.