deep-dive-discussion

[tidal verge]

i guess? it stopped bothering me

[shell spindle]

incredibly rude to put 3 spitballers directly in front of the pod at the start of part three of the normal dd

[tidal verge]

i was definitely seeing the little green bastards, thats for sure

im doing deep dive, not elite, to clarify

[shell spindle]

my team barely made it out the caretaker

[tidal verge]

either way, woo

dreadnoughts are dead, time to start refining and get the fuck out

[wraith kraken]

I forgot to bring damage as driller to the caretaker

I had wavecooker and crowd control sludge pump

[glossy walrus]

directly infront of the drop pod is the best place to be, as you can abuse drop pod near invincibility to kill them

now if you can't shoot them from the drop pod that's a different story, but you can still use it as cover

[shell spindle]

not to mention the breeder and whatever else was out there

both drillers went down trying to kill the things 💀

at least there was a funny when a driller somehow got assassinated by hacksy

[fallow niche]

look at pins
Jeez, starting off strong with lethal escort huh

no hiveguard at least is a plus

[outer bloom]

Just tested this out - totally works to insta-kill the dreads. Good call!

[jagged plaza]

100% using this :)

[brisk spear]

Yooo wait this is big tech, gotta use this in the future

[old siren]

i'm taking this tech into dds

[frail charm]

... huh, theoretically

this means you can also use certain machine events to instakill dreads in normal missions

also the drilldozer completion but iirc i think dreads are disabled on escort duty

[thorn jewel]

Does it kill em through their invincibility phases?

Or armors

[old siren]

dreads don't spawn normally in escorts

they can't spawn either

the only time they can spawn is in mork, refining and aquarq

[woeful niche]

edds will take the spawns of the primary btw

so if the secondary is morkite and the primary is eggs dreads can’t spawn, But vice versa they can

[frail charm]

though apparently sabo's on the list too

[woeful niche]

sabo cannot have a dreadnaught swarm. The only reason the dd has one is cus it’s a secondary

a reg sabo will never have a dread spawn

[thorny geyser]

feels like they made edd much easier this week than previous one

[frail charm]

i'm not sure how much influence the devs have over every deep dive

it wouldn't surprise me if the weekly seeds are random and non-human-verified not curated

[glossy walrus]

pretty sure they said it's just random and not curated

the only time I can imagine it being altered at all is on new season release when it always has the new warning for the first however many weeks

partially because console gets the patch a few weeks late, and the e/dds are for the most part the same other than that one old warning is swapped for the new one

[grave narwhal]

Thanks @frail charm for coming up with this clever trick. I've given you credit in the video description. It really does work like a charm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uJYROupDiQ

[burnt cloud]

I tried it as well, worked like a charm. Thanks!

[coral pond]

this elite deep dive has made me realize how absolute infuriating menaces are. Fuckers just don't leave you alone

[trail pivot]

wait I thought it was the caretaker exploding!

it's literally just the caretakers healthbar emptying!

We were wrong to post this here, that's gonna nerfed!

hide it quick!

[grave narwhal]

Completely agree. Menaces are especially horrible during escort missions coz they damage Dotty at a REALLY fast rate.

[coral pond]

almost lost dotty to menaces, then lost the 2nd stage cause a menace was just too far for me to take care of

[kindred coyote]

is there another low o2 data thingy

[frail charm]

yeah it's when the caretaker's adds despawn

i figured it probably worked one of three ways:
1: the caretaker keeps track of everything it spawns during the fight, and despawns those instantly on death.
2: the caretaker despawns all robotic enemies on death
3: the caretaker despawns all enemies on death

#3 is functionally the simplest and there's fairly little reason to put in the effort for any other option (this is a subtle edge case which would easily be overlooked)

and it looks like i was right there

[glossy walrus]

it looks like the same purple shockwave that goes out when machine events end, so you can test if those work on dreads too if you find one in a dread mission

then again, there's a similar purple shockwave when heartstone ends and that one just does some not-crazy-high amount of damage, as oppressors and the like can survive it

[frail charm]

the purple shockwave definitely can trigger dread eggs

[glossy walrus]

meant more if it can kill dreads too

[frail charm]

i know, though the dread egg trigger tells us some interesting things:
1: it usually only triggers one egg, so it's probably range limited
2: it targets a larger array of hostiles than 'things spawned by the machine event'

[glossy walrus]

I'd expect it to just be a damage pulse

caretaker pulse is clearly strong enough to wipe twins instantly, heartstone not so much, no idea for machine event

[hollow citrus]

ooh

I foresee this being fixed in future

[karmic flame]

does bet-c stay between deep dive stages?

[severe current]

I tried soloing the standard deep dive for this week and it was going extremely well.

Until two bulk detonators showed up by tearing down the walls in stage 2.

[robust saffron]

Ugh, we failed the EDD. We got to the final dreadnought in stage 3 & just ran out of ammo. Nitra management seems to be more difficult than the EDD!

[wraith shard]

Nitra is not an issue in this EDD. You likely missed some.

that or you're running extremely inefficient class line ups/builds

[wraith shard]

as disgustingly cheesy as it is, this is a pretty neat find

[azure monolith]

bugs purged

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/1058328349807759410/20221230021700_1.jpg?width=1174&height=660

simple EDD, interesting pub players

[azure monolith]

is there any history data on those missions to track some stats?

[dapper moth]

God this week's dd is horrid

First dd for me and 🤮

First mission is ok, mules and morkite
Shield disruptor and volatile guts on the second mission was HORRIBLE, like wtf you have to fight a dreadnought (the twins so three bosses aaaaaaa) AND caretaker without shield and while stuff explodes?
And the third mission was an instant death due to mactera plague

I'm pissed

Please help me I'm bad at the game

[lime meteor]

midIckyZ

[burnt cloud]

Lol? Another pointless ping like that and I'm just going to block you

[wraith shard]

oops

[trim fjord]

so im gonna ask a dumb question. What is the point of a deep dive? Its just a way to do multiple caved without going back to hub right?

[wraith shard]

you get overclocks

and its fun

[trim fjord]

fair

[wooden warren]

Stage 2 of the standard DD was pretty intense lol

Geez

[woeful elm]

i did both dds

skipped last step

too tedious

just here for OCs

130/149

so close

[unreal copper]

EDD pretty easy this week -> lethal enemies can be annoying, but having it on stage 1 makes it a non-issue

[winter oak]

Why does elite deep dive look easier than regular deep dive?!?

[hazy lily]

If they were the same haz level it prob would be

[timber iris]

Bro stage two of the EDD for me was wild
Constant horde without even pulling the eggs
And by the end there had been in total 3 bulk detonators
I don't understand

[nimble burrow]

wouldve been fine for me if our scout knew what a fucking flare gun is

[vital sluice]

When I did it I only killed one of the twins when the caretaker died, but the other one died to the fallen caretaker's explosion, so you get 2 chances

[hazy lily]

Stage two was fun imo, interesting cave layout

And the leeches made for funny moments

[opal girder]

hey guys how long does this elite deepdive roughly last today?

[coral pond]

dd and edd are on weekly resets just like the core hunt. So you have a week

[grave narwhal]

hahah damn. this is one serious exploit. 😆

[steep pulsar]

Kirby Claw Machine music intensifies

[night talon]

Are dd cores separate from epic? Or does epic give out dd as well

[tardy girder]

by epic you mean EDD, right? because if so, yeah: normal dd and edd cores are seperate

[kindred coyote]

ofc the regular dd has a data thingy

[wraith shard]

Pod 15 re-host

[fast stream]

If i do a deep dive, can i get matrix cores from elite deep dives too? Or it's just harder?

[serene dirge]

you get cores from both

[fast stream]

No i mean, after i do a deep dive, can i still get cores from elite deep dive like during the same week

[serene dirge]

yep

[fast stream]

My god, I could've gotten like 9 ocs now

[modern phoenix]

if you fail a deep dive can you retry?

[tardy girder]

yes, although you'll have to start from stage 1 again

you'll keep everything you've earned up to the point of failure, though

[bleak tusk]

you only get cores once per DD per week right?

[coral pond]

Correct, once per dd and once per edd

[thorny geyser]

They should probably start adding double warnings for EDDs, even total greenbeards had easy time this week.

[coral pond]

So?

[thorny geyser]

I want to sweat depleted uranium when diving deep.

[coral pond]

Cope

[thorny geyser]

seethe

[coral pond]

Mald

[thorny geyser]

dilate

[frail patrol]

just host a public edd with greenbeards

[thorny geyser]

I do that quite often [GREENBEARDS ONLY!!! SCALE BRIGADE = KICK!!! IF GOLD LEFT BEHIND = KICK!!!]

[night talon]

Thanks!

[humble sage]

you get 3 cores from doing the DD, then you get 3 cores from doing the EDD, so a total of 6 cores if you do both the DD and EDD

yeah, this week's EDD was much easier and much funner than last week's 😅
accidentally killed our driller twice with mole on dreadnaught stage, though 😂 don't tell him...
(lol don't worry we had a laugh about it in game)

stage 2 was scary, but exciting

[warm gazelle]

The second mission spooked me, but I do find rival missions oddly fun.

Dunno how dreadnought cocoon spawns work in DD, but I only got the twins, so guess I'm lucky unless thats scripted.

[coral pond]

it's scripted to be a certain one every time

so if you ran the dd again, it'd be the twins again

random seed, but once that seed is chosen it's the same seed for everyone all week

[warm gazelle]

Still glad it was twins, I feel like their the easiest to fight personally.

[thorny geyser]

Depends on terrain.

Hiveguard likes to mess up terrain, so prolonged fight makes it harder

[robust saffron]

If you’ve got the minerals to do it you can get 11.20 matrix cores per week. 4 weapon, 4 cosmetic & 3 blank 🙂

[modern phoenix]

what's the order you get the cores in?
is it blank, weapon, cosmetic?

[earnest edge]

yee

[robust saffron]

Huh, how come I can’t post pics in this channel?

[modern phoenix]

because they can't be posted in this channel. You can probably link it though.

[robust saffron]

Weird. I thought I saw someone post a pic of their EDD up there ☝️

[modern phoenix]

probably linked it

[shrewd pollen]

carried some first time Deep Divers through this weeks hellish DD

omen no shields is evil

was hectic

they were level 10 and level 20 which is 1-2 promotions

And goddamn

sabotage was brutal literally had to use all of our nitra to do it

the game was nice and gave tons of it for the third part tho

[jaunty crag]

Lmao 14 downs on that scout

[broken abyss]

my game crashed on stage 3 :(

[random rampart]

...its the scout

[jaunty crag]

[sick bronze]

Is deep dive hard?

I just unlocked it

[trail pivot]

Not the regular one

Elite will make you scream sometimes

[thorny geyser]

Elite is significantly easier this week, compared to last week or one before that.

[silk dragon]

But this week dd is worse than edd 🤨

do not lie

[trail pivot]

Really? Haven't gotten to it yet

Maybe next year

[thorny geyser]

That does happen sometimes.

sometimes DD is worse than EDD

mostly due to really crappy terrain

[chilly onyx]

Ha ha...

[rugged spade]

I thought the kill 2 dreadnaughts and do an industrial sabotage with no shield was pretty challenging. This was our first deep dive is it usually that hard?

[silk dragon]

idk we've done hacking and dreads at the same time and it wasn't that hard :/

[spice eagle]

What I did was kill the dreads with caretaker death

[trail pivot]

I need to convince whatever group i find to try that

[compact bane]

This deep dive was hard, but a friend and I got through it! When do deep dives refresh normally? I’m excited to go down in the depths again!

[verbal token]

how do i get into a game (no missions are playable for me)

[coral pond]

weekly, just like the core hunt and priority assignments

[compact bane]

Thank you!

[cobalt granite]

Last weeks EDD was a cakewalk compared to this weeks for me tbh

[thorny geyser]

really? i did EDD last week and this week twice and both times last weeks got stretched into long ass slogs against caretaker

this week however felt like haz2, caves were very silent

barely got to spin my minigun

[glossy walrus]

the shield disruption + guts combo was a bit annoying on defense this week, but me and my buddy still did both power stations at the same time just fine

[wary marlin]

can you only get the rewards for a deep dive once or can you keep doing it

[coral pond]

You only get the completion rewards once per week

[wary marlin]

ah, thank you

[thorny geyser]

you do get money and xp though, but not cores, OCs or cosmetics

[cobalt granite]

Failed my first try on stage 2 when a bulk walked up to us right after we started the black box

[thorny geyser]

did you do black box first or eggs first?

[modest snow]

WHAT THE FUCK???

JC??

[spice eagle]

What?

[modest snow]

WHY R U HWRE

[spice eagle]

Who are you?

[modest snow]

pell

[spice eagle]

Oh

Why do you think idiot

[sick lake]

Wtf is this deep dive lmao. Dreads and caretaker, with volatile guts AND shield disrupt?

[modest snow]

YEO LMAO

i just finished edd

8/10 pretty good dive

2 detonators tho

[honest root]

Bro my team for both deep dives were basically two people talking on Chinese then me not understanding

[trail pivot]

we saw that

[deft fossil]

my team blew one up that casaded to the other blowing up

[modest snow]

i just did it w my duo casually

55min

[graceful grove]

I need to run the elite one

[zinc ingot]

hello

can some one help me setting custom resolution ?

[shrewd pollen]

You arent but for some reason everyone loves running out of the drop pod for no reason in Deep Dives and Elite Deep dives

I ALWAYS stay inside the drop pod because you get some invulnerability and you can just spray down the entire hoard of enemies without taking tons of damage

ive had elite deep dives fail because i stay in the drop pod and my teamates got sniped by the 5 spit ballers and 10 mactera with hundreds of grunts crawling everywhere when they bumrushed out without looking

cant really win when you spend 10 minutes solo wiping the whole cave from the drop pod and running out of ammo and having to burn quick revives and other crap to revive the whole team

spawns room hell is easy if you just sit in the drop pod

[cunning walrus]

First time ever I've done an EDD four times and still lost

I went bullet hell on gunner so it was my fault for not building enough ammo for elimination on the third round but I did beautifully the first two

I went scout and couldn't stay alice to revive everyone

Went engy but exe Lok and boost hard wasn't enough to take out swarms on second black box

[wispy topaz]

for first time deep dive should I promote all my chars once or does that not really matter

[lost jungle]

u brought bullet hell to elim

💀

[tropic jackal]

if you can beat haz 3 you can do the normal deep dive

[old siren]

attempting solo dd

[old siren]

I failed at 2nd mission

[shy thunder]

Is feedback loop OC only good for an AOE anti-swarm build?

[lost jungle]

its weird

u need very high enemy count and density for it to work

so on lower hazards its bad

on higher hazard (5) or modded it starts to work a little better

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[trail pivot]

i'd love to mission control, but convincing people to pop a dread egg while the caretaker is at low health is hard

[wraith kraken]

do it urself

[uncut creek]

This weeks elite deep dive had a cameo from the easter bunny, eggs everywhere

it was way more fun than last week

any driller homies wanna know what i took it was

hydrogen ion sludge 1-2-2-2-2
heat pipe EPC 2-1-2-2-1

[coral pond]

Why burning over tcf

[fast stratus]

To ignite sludge I presume

[uncut creek]

^

fire good

plus i did it solo so i had bosco

no need for tcf mining

[fast stratus]

I run the same thing but with heavy hitter for cheaper ignites and those pesky spitters

[uncut creek]

did you run the same upgrades as mine just with heavy hitter

[fast stratus]

12321

I dont charge shots pretty much ever

[uncut creek]

i like the swarm clear and instant ignite in a line the charged shot gives you

but i ran that exact epc last edd so i like it too

[fast stratus]

Very fun sludge build is disperser compound 32x11

Just fill the cave with goo

[uncut creek]

disperser is what i take in teams

that or goo bomber special

and on elim its either the shart gun or volatile impact

[coral pond]

Vim so strong

[uncut creek]

sludge is drillers best primary and i will die on this goopy ass hill

[fast stratus]

Me with you. Fuck you cryo stans

[coral pond]

I like cryo more generally but vim sludge too good

[uncut creek]

cryo is good for team play, but solo it lacks the same AoE that the crspr and csp have

[fast stratus]

Cryo is too demanding of your team imo. So many things in the game apply fire compared to cold

[uncut creek]

there is one time i take cryo every time tho

[coral pond]

I bring cryo on stuff like PE or refinery, where i often find myself separated from my team

[uncut creek]

mactera plague

[coral pond]

That too

[ornate hill]

doing my first deep dive

2 detonators what the fuck

[torn verge]

i've never had teamwork problems running cryo
seeing frozen bugs does seem to activate the neurons of most dwarves, and they know to shoot them with non-fire weapons
in a deep dive especially it takes just a couple moments in the lobby to say what primary you're using or to ask the driller, so you don't have massive loadout conflicts

[fast stratus]

Well it's definitely not a big problem

[gray bane]

Has anyone had the issue on game pass where voice chat wont mute or be disabled? I've set it to 0, disabled voice chat, and even tried muting people but I can still here them when they use their mic. I've tried restarting pc and game already

[wary marlin]

was doing it duoed we got double leeched right out of the dropship on 3rd stage for my first one💀

the game just hates you sometimes

[chilly iris]

Bosco can't be leeched or grabbed. Bosco > Dwarves

First stage was the roughest for me, nailbiter repair and hold out until the shell popped because it was at 5% remaining HP

[ornate hill]

second one was legit a pain

[ornate hill]

OOF, did it solo and wanted to just end myself

[thorny geyser]

Most of the time it doesnt even matter if people shoot frozen bugs with fire-based weapons, thermal shock kills grunts instantly.

[jagged plaza]

[gray hemlock]

Just tried doing the edd with randoms, why is there a fucking bulk on a black box mission

Man.

[thorny geyser]

electrocution, toxins and lots of focused dakka

[trail pivot]

thanks, ill bring specialist

[warped ore]

Do EDD with friends
Get a random
Said random gets the least kills and 5 downs
"All of you guys fucking suck and should stop playing"
:)

[trail pivot]

haha lmao

[wintry flint]

so I just got my first dwarf promoted and I was thinking of doing a deep dive soon, any really important things I should know?

[steady marsh]

make sure you are prepared and ready, since you don't return to the space rig you will only have your current health and ammo from the last mission, so collect as much Nitra as you can. Also I would not recommend you go alone but the choice is yours. good luck and good mining.

[wintry flint]

I'm gonna try it solo to start, but thank you very much I think I've already gotten into a decent habit of hoarding nitra so I should be good there. Thank you very much fellow dwarf, rock and stone!

[karmic flame]

wtf

the drilldoser mined an egg and forsed a double swarm

im fucking dead

skill issue

this elite deep dive fucking sucks holy shit

so many web spitters

[trail pivot]

that was not an easy elite deep dive

noone mentioned the leeches hiding second and third stage

and sure enough the bulk showed up towards the end of the box

take the stairs on the right down to the box and do it asap second stage

bulk showed up above us, but the shard diff and gunade cut all the boss fights short

gunner should be able to wire to a few key spots by the eggs

the guards weren't playing games on the black box

hope you can stun them

engi had turret arc

it seemed to work well with he shredders

[sterile scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[karmic flame]

WTF WHY IS BLACK BOX SO BULLSHIT

i dont think this deep dive is physically possible in solo

every time i lost a deep dive was because of the black box

i had 4 revives, full ammo and full health

but its literally impossible to do it solo

because its a constant bloody swarm

what is the difference between a regular uplink and a black box?

because black box always seems to be borderline impossible

[silk dragon]

skill issue ngl

[fast stratus]

Black box doesn't fail the mission of you dip, you can restart it after

That's the only difference iirc

[coral pond]

Also that stage is hazard 5, so if you don't normally play haz 5 solo then it's understandable to be overwhelmed

[sterile scaffold]

buy gaming chair, gaming mouse, gaming keyboard, gaming monitor, gaming computer, gaming headset and try again

it's hardware issue

[silk dragon]

pure gaming

[wispy topaz]

When am I ready for elite deep dive? Hazard 5 comfy?

[serene stratus]

Haz4 comfy

[woeful patrol]

You should definitely retry, I did it solo without much Experience in EDD, I played Scout with a pheromones + fire crossbow build (and I paid the price for the dread) but it was okay, a lot of close call but no down

[humble sage]

Yeah, the black box was mega hard on our runs too. Nearly impossible with so many dets and mini dets

[whole saddle]

you should also know that, there are no rare minerals or events in DD and that you should try to not lose too much time when doing DDs. Meaning, focus on the objectives, mining gold is not strictly necessary since you get a good chunk of credits for doing Deep Dives. The DRG reddit has a page where they say what each phase is. Also remember that the special drinks stick to the entire deep dive so, if you happen to have stronger pickaxe damage as a drink, it's something to consider.
Edit: Forgot to mention that, when entering each phase, bosco's revives and iron will get reset to their max values. So if you die a lot in one phase, don't worry

[wintry flint]

thanks for all of this info, I think I feel prepared to do my first Deep Dive now, wish me luck!

[coral pond]

Also if you don't care to go to reddit, it's always updated in this channel with a pinned message

[dim bramble]

yea black box is nothing but pain

wonder if stalling is viable

like using a lot of stuns

scout boomerang maybe

[delicate remnant]

hey there, im about to start a elite deep dive solo, since i dont have any friends-
any advice on it?
is it even possible within a reasonable scale?

[half shore]

so overclocks come in 3 colors, green yellow and red, green being the strongest right?

[gray panther]

green isn't necessarily the strongest.
Red - unstable. Big upsides or changes to how the weapon works, but there's a few downsides, too (gun works a lot differently and lasts a lot longer per shot but deals a lot less damage, making you rely on it as a status effect placer)
Yellow - balanced. The strengths aren't as gamechanging or strong as unstables, but there are also fewer downsides. (hit targets get electrocuted on reload, but you have a smaller mag size)
Green - clean. Small, not very gamechanging upsides with no downsides (like getting more ammo, a larger mag size, or faster reload)

[tired rose]

you got this bro

[half shore]

ohhh i see thanks

[delicate remnant]

thanks, i guess ill just hope for the best

ill finish my assignment though, so if anybody wants to maybe join me, um, yeah

[limpid pond]

Funny how the example you give as Balanced is how Electrifying Reload, an Unstable woeks

[silk dragon]

dip dive

[fading folio]

FOR ROCK AND STONEEEEE

[silk dragon]

V

[fading folio]

Did I hear a rock and stone?

[silk dragon]

V

[shell hawk]

Rock and stone Brother

[thorny geyser]

What dwarf are you playing? Either you need to eliminate grunt blobs from distance or you need something to slow em down. Don't be afraid to spam grenades.

I got it done solo with GK2 (max mag size, compact ammo OC), boomstick (stuffed shells and fear the boomstick) and pheromone canisters.

[silk dragon]

skill issue ngl

[frail patrol]

GK2 BoM, Crossbow w/ pheremones and ice, soloed it first attempt. Just light up and pay extra attention if you see cave leech cluster in the mission, only close call was getting downed by a direct hit from a floating rock on stage 1

[gray hemlock]

completed my first edd on my steam acc, nice

my blue level was only 21 while everyone else in the edd was 140+ but I wasn't sole carried so thats nice

also, are bulks an rng spawn in deep dives?

cus I had a bulk on stage 2 edd on first attempt, no bulk on second attempt

[bleak current]

that's odd, afaik it's a set thing but maybe not
the first time was it like real close to the end? maybe you did it faster the second time so it didn't spawn? idk im no expert

[gray hemlock]

it spawned in during black box, which we did about 90 seconds into the stage

[bleak current]

no clue then

[glossy walrus]

it's random

they're in the spawn pool this time but it doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get one, depends on your luck

[frozen quest]

EDD ez clap this week

bosco actually better than 2 botmates I should deactivate him

[cunning walrus]

What build for gunner and engy can you guys recommend for this edd

I've done it 5 times and still haven't finished it

[celest sluice]

well, industrial sabo snuck into the dd... guess I'm skipping that this week. Again.

[boreal hollow]

its not that bad

[sick lake]

Apparently you can use the caretaker's death throes to instagib the dreadnoughts lol

[grim glacier]

yeah, it works, easier to pull off than what i expected

[shrewd pollen]

elite DD was a cakewalk compared to the sabotage

[sick lake]

Shield disrupt + volatile guts is a nasty combo

[wraith shard]

really easy DD's this week

[storm tulip]

I felt like I went down way faster than usual in stage three of the regular dd

[wraith shard]

friend and I did it with 0 downs

[karmic flame]

I just realised

this EDD is a 50/50 wheather you get a double swarm or not

i thought that the controllable swarms of the eggs are always the same

turns out not

so basically the first stage is very luck based

[glossy walrus]

or you negate the luck factor and just predrill the egg

since it's sandblasted, even non drillers can predig it easily enough

[karmic flame]

i am so stupid

i didnt even think about that

[silk dragon]

skill issue ngl

[karmic flame]

YESSSS, I COMPLETED THE SECOND STAGE OF THE EDD

no way in hell im getting the third one lol

haz 6 twins as gunner with neurotoxin payload 💀

[brisk spear]

bringing ntp to elim 💀

[karmic flame]

thats cause i didnt care about the third stage

i only wanted to beat the second one

[brisk spear]

sorry

[karmic flame]

and i had to take measurments

[brisk spear]

bringing ntp 💀

[karmic flame]

all that struggle for extra magazine capacity for lok1 💀

[wraith shard]

using ntp in any given circumstance 💀💀💀

[karmic flame]

spending resources to unlock ntp 💀

[silk dragon]

ntp 💀

[frozen quest]

for Engi I can only recommend Stubby 13121 with EM Refire (insane rpm and damage) + Shard 31213 with Overdrive Booster

insanely fun and effective combo for single target and wave clearing (could be better with breach, but you got shredder nades and slowing Shard which makes it more fun and almost equally as effective)

[meager kraken]

how to survive the last stage of an elite deep dive?

it's pure hell

[lost jungle]

💀

[wraith shard]

git gud

[fast stratus]

No but really

He's right

[silk dragon]

He is out of line but he's right!

[wraith shard]

[coral pond]

Why are you booing me, i'm right

[unkempt saffron]

good edd for starters

[thin yoke]

anyone wanna hop on for a deep dive?

[plucky bane]

should I do a deep dive as soon as I unlock them

because I only have 1 oc for my promoted engie

[frail charm]

so i don't think the dreadnoughts get instagibbed if there's 4 players

because more hp

[sly vapor]

You will start one time or another, if you feel comfortable with haz 3 and maybe haz 4 you can jump right into it

[plucky bane]

I play only haz 3

but haz 4 is another ball game

[sly vapor]

Yes the leap is the biggest in the game

But remember that the deep dive missions are more straightforward

So you will be spending less time there

You can also bring a greybeard if you want help

[plucky bane]

where do the names come from of like greenbeard and greybeard

[unkempt saffron]

for regular deep dives then yes, theyre very easy

for elites however youre gonna need more experience

[plucky bane]

what if there was a version of deep dives but it's endless and the difficulty ramps up the more missions you do

🤔

that would probably be really fun

[unkempt saffron]

technically you can already do that with point extraction haz 5, albeit nitra wont replenish so itll end one way or another

[vagrant heron]

We did it twice now. 4 players. The first time, only the initial blast hit them, so both dreads went to half health. Not super useful since it's the twins. The second time, the first blast took them to half, and the death blast killed one. It's doable, but can be tricky.

The one that survived was buried. Bastard.

[frail charm]

there's two blasts?

[vagrant heron]

One when the caretaker goes to zero health. That kills off any swarm, the arms, the bots, shredders, snipers, etc. Then, the CT falls over and explodes. That's the second.

[frail charm]

oh, i didn't realize that one did damage

but now that i think about it, it DOES knockback dwarves, so its definitely not just a cosmetic effect

[austere dust]

Just did my first deep dive :) And it was solo! Took me almost 2 hours, lol

[vital sluice]

Congrats!

[hasty hamlet]

@frail charm thanks for the tip, really helped out with the DD speedrun for this week. I was playing around with it trying to figure out how it works and I think the instakill is also based on distance from the caretaker. Once I popped the cocoon and let the red health bars show up on screen just before the last explosion and it didn't work.

[hasty hamlet]

did they go to healing phase the first time after the blast?

[trail pivot]

So there are two chances to kill them?

[fading folio]

I got so close to my tier 2 deep dive first one solo - took down both dreads and died while I took down the caretaker

1.2 hour raid then I died

Rip

[pliant fern]

What is the elite this week?

[brisk spear]

check pins

[fading folio]

Are the monsters harder if you don’t solo?

[random rampart]

enemy spawn number and health pool scale with the team number, just like regular missions iirc

[fading folio]

Thanks

[sand schooner]

Tried deep dive last week for the first time and my two friends and I wiped on the caretaker with swarmageddon. Is this week any better? I see sabotage with shield disruption and that seems worse.

[violet warren]

The EDD might be easier to be honest if you're able to handle haz 5

[sand schooner]

I've done one hazard 4 and it took 3 tries 😅 Would have to unlock 5. Also don't I have to complete a deep dive to do an elite deep dive?

[random epoch]

Bruh this weeks deep dive seems really difficult for me lmao

Caretaker + Drednaught + Shield disruption + Volatile Guts

How 2 solo

[spark yacht]

EDD was easier imo if you're used to haz4&5

[elfin edge]

i'm open to doing a deep dive if anyone is interested 🙂

[sand schooner]

Apparently I need to find people to start doing haz4 with

[sand schooner]

Too late for me tonight but I'll be around tomorrow after work if you still want to give it a go.

[elfin edge]

i probably will be

[candid forge]

someone wanna do elite?)

[silk dragon]

this is deep dive discussion not deep dive looking for game

🙄

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[tulip trail]

Babe, there comes your weekly industial sabotage dose

Yes, Honey

[silk dragon]

I like sabotage 🙂

[mystic wing]

I just got to deep dives and did it for the first time. Are DDs just a weekly thing?

[silk dragon]

yep

new ones every thursday

[mystic wing]

Gotcha, nice.

[hollow citrus]

I can't wait for the inevitable double sabotage DD

[silk dragon]

Triple sabotage! 🤯

on both deep dives

6 sabotages!!! 😳

[woeful patrol]

With Shield Disruption and Low O2

[vagrant heron]

Don't give RNGesus any ideas.

[drowsy finch]

Damn, I was too greedy for nitra and died on stage 3 of the EDD without my shredders
And the last death was really dumb when a cave leech got me and spit out my body from where I couldn't reach the sugar with iron will

[silk dragon]

skill issue ngl

[drowsy finch]

LOK-1 was very good against cave leeches on stage 2, but against swarms... not so much

[dense kite]

do I dare attempt the Elite deep dive? The nroaml one was not that hard really, even the Shieldless part wasn't that bad

[silk dragon]

this week edd is better and easier that dd

[dense kite]

Oh damn so I gotta do it

Awesome

Thansk for the heads-up then

[silk dragon]

clueless

[wary marlin]

no harm in trying

[dense kite]

Actually yeah in the normal deep dive we got 2 bulk detonators and it was fine

[wary marlin]

yeah for the normal this week me and my duo got grabbed at the same time twice and both had to burn iron will 💀

[dense kite]

Update I tried we lost but mostly because one guy tooks tons of ammo first mission and then left

Bloody Leaflovers!

Leaflover anyway, singular

[wary marlin]

damn rip

[drowsy finch]

Completed EDD, got into drop bot on iron will

[keen ice]

Solo?

[drowsy finch]

Yes

[red egret]

whats the second and third stages? ion wanna go in unknowingly

i know first is eggs and escort

[severe tusk]

Check the pinned message.

[red egret]

ah ok ty

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[worldly turtle]

That EDD was bizarre in terms of difficulty, most of it was totally manageable, except for the first few minutes of escort where three menaces spawned and nearly killed dotty before the first refuel stop

[steep pulsar]

Hey, To other 4 Dwarves that got to the end of the EDD with Me (Rose Butchess,) I think that DC was on my end. I am Deeply Sorry

[fathom spade]

Why

Just started the edd

And as soon as things got rough, people started leaving

[eternal dune]

Idk if this is the right place to ask but what's the general consensus for micro flechets on the BRT? If you take the +3 burst size and some extra damage mods is it worth?

[limpid pond]

It's less DPS and less ammo efficient than Compact Mags. It's still a total damage increase over base, but it's really not that great.

[unkempt saffron]

Micro flechettes is simply not good, also theres not many instances where youd want more burst over stun

[limpid pond]

I disagree with the latter statement. You don't need to stun something that's dead

[unkempt saffron]

But you do need to stun something thats still not dead

Also i find it easier to stun and then finish up a bug with the following burst rather than having a prolonged burst

[limpid pond]

Stun's also irrelevant if the target's immune to it

[unkempt saffron]

Sure but for the most part most bugs you see arent immune to stun, i simply find the extra stun utility to be better plus a shorter burst means i have more control over how i want to spend my ammo against bugs

[limpid pond]

Yeah, they're both good mods, but Longer Burst is far from useless

[unkempt saffron]

I just find it outclassed compared to stun, only instance id ever take longer burst is for EM

[limpid pond]

Not even Lead Spray?

[coral pond]

since it's going on here, is lead spray actually good? i just got it recently and don't know how to build the brt at all

[unkempt saffron]

Not even then, i just prefer stun all the way

[unkempt saffron]

Yes, does lots of damage for a con that can be mitigated by a simple change of playstyle

[limpid pond]

Max damage Lead Spray kills a Haz 5 4P Oppressor in a single mag, it's pretty much one of two BRT OCs that actually do anything

[coral pond]

nice

[unkempt saffron]

Only caveat is you gotta get much closer to your target then youd may like, but you dish out tons of damage so its not a concern either way

[limpid pond]

1323x is the defacto best for literally every BRT OC except for Electro Minelets, but Electro Minelets sucks so that doesn't count. It's a really boring gun tbh

[unkempt saffron]

Its simplicity is nice, at least it doesnt get handicapped in trying to be different things all in one like the coilgun, but EM really needs a change for the better

[limpid pond]

The acc mods are a trap because you lose out on substantial DPS and total damage, mag size is worthless, armor breaking does nothing

BRT's accurate enough at base to keep up with Bulldog, and then it has much better ammo and damage output than it too. The only real advantage Bulldog has over BRT are like 40+ meter accuracy and Volatile Bullets.

[unkempt saffron]

Magic bullets too, the og secondary swarm clear until hellfire came along

[trail pivot]

You can have it all with er brt

[limpid pond]

Six Shooter is decent, but Compact Mags blows it out of the water in literally every aspect

[unkempt saffron]

Doesnt ER lose too much ammo for the damage increase? Pretty sure CM beats it dps wise

[eternal dune]

I've always favored the brt over revolver actually, my aim isn't always amazing so I like the leniency of the burst fire for more chances hit weakspots plus stun from tier 5 mod

I am still yet to get 6 shooter for bulldog I think that would change my mind on it

[coral pond]

where do y'all get the meta info btw? or like, semi-meta info i guess? This server is pretty useless for that besides like you and 3 other people

[limpid pond]

Experience. Math. I'd suggest MeatShield's DPS calc, but it's super out of date now. The karl.gg build page has most of its features with more up to date stuff https://karl.gg/build#/

Just bear in mind that maximum DPS and/or maximum total damage are not necessarily the best values for a specific build, lest you end up with AoE Jet Fuel Homebrew

[coral pond]

i always get told to use karl.gg but it just never seemed valuable, i was hoping there was something else(or i guess i just wasn't look at the right place on it)

[limpid pond]

Radial AoE tends to be valued too high, blowthroughs calcs are kinda funky, and there's a few things like Turret Whip it can't deal with at all.

[coral pond]

[limpid pond]

Yeah, doesn't really have the same vibe as something like Ranald's Gift. Problem is, DRG is a really easy game where you don't really have to optimize because there's not much penalty for not doing so, and there's also a community expectation for teammates to hard carry you if you suck. The popularity of Hoverclock + Special Powder builds on the site reflects that.

[coral pond]

yeah. I recently got hoverclock too but still haven't used it

[limpid pond]

The real fun with Hoverclock is that if you're client, you hover on hipfire too

[golden vale]

does BRT have the worst set of overclocks in the game? 3 ammo overclocks, 3 damage overclocks and 1 meh gimmick overclock

[unkempt saffron]

Far from that, it has a fair amount of solid ocs, just maybe not as interesting as other weapons

[verbal belfry]

that EDD was nuts for us, so many cave leeches

[somber monolith]

I just finished the EDD on my own. Bosco is my hero. Also the beer on tap before my dive was rocky mountain so I had zero help from that.

[tacit ravine]

Oof. 3 attempts, all died on 2nd stage. Bulk on a black box is just rude. Guess I've gotta get good.

[vital sluice]

Yeah, the difficulty in this game is super variable because stuff like that can happen

[silk dragon]

petition to make last stage on edd hazard 6 x2

[drowsy finch]

I had no problem with the detonator (probably because I managed to finish the black box event before it arrived), but the consequences of it exploding... The explosion made the terrain impassable and then I had to dig up the resupply for a few minutes to bring it down to the level of the pit below.

[sly kettle]

I wonder how bad the first Deep Dives of the year will be?

[silk dragon]

it will be definitlly first

[gusty grotto]

I would speedrun it blindly when it goes live in like 1hr but I got an exam right through the middle of it 😂

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[sly kettle]

Unlucky.

[sly kettle]

Soon™

[balmy axle]

3 minutes

i will spearhead the standard deep dive

anyone got EDD?

this is a stupidly long single minute

dear god

[eternal dune]

I feel this. I think as long as you have decent game sense and teamwork/communication you'll be fine. Optimizing builds is really fun and is pretty impactful but probably not as impactful as communicating with your team and knowing the game

[balmy axle]

uhhh, mission control?

hello?

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[balmy axle]

Deep Dive - Codename Fearful Cemetery - Salt Pits

Mission 1 - Point Extraction + Morkite - Haunted Cave

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Fearful Cemetery
Stage 1: 7 Aquarq + 150 Morkite | Haunted Cave
Stage 2: Refine Liquid Morkite + 1 Black Box | No Mutators
Stage 3: Recover Data Rack + Dreadnought Twins | Volatile Guts Mactera Plague

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Titanic Mouth
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + Dreadnought Hiveguard | No Mutators
Stage 3: Recover Data Rack + 150 Morkite | Rich Atmosphere Regenerative Bugs

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone.

[marble veldt]

IT'S MUFFIN TIME
(I'm late 😭)

[woeful patrol]

Watch it be another Sabo Low o2 or Shield Disruption

[quiet mortar]

Restart and it'll fix

[balmy axle]

also the stage 1 layout is horrible

literally all tiny tunnels

if it was EDD it would be really bad

[hollow citrus]

3 bronze 1s

oh joy

[balmy axle]

stage 1 completed

Mission 2 - Refine Morkite + Black Box - No Modifiers

[remote dragon]

why is the stage 1 layout so small

lmao

for DD

[hollow citrus]

stage 2 dd map is terrible

bring a driller

[vocal haven]

On Site Refinery is driller for sure

Oh salt pits again nice

[hollow citrus]

the refinery is in a pit and the pump is on top of a cligg

cliff

and the black box is in the ceiling

oh my karl

[vocal haven]

Shoot with fat boy

[fallen hinge]

May Karl give you strength

[balmy axle]

this is why i pick engi

[torn verge]

2nd stage EDD is 4 eggs 1 dread, hiveguard, no modifiers

[woeful patrol]

Those map layers are one of the worst thing I have ever seen

[balmy axle]

also yes its literally another

"lol refiner in pit"

[quiet mortar]

Any Mutators?

[hollow citrus]

I am in a pug dd with 3 bronze 1 engis

[sly kettle]

Cave gen wants to inflict physical pain on us this week, huh?

[balmy axle]

well it's standard deep dive, it's not gonna inflict pain via bugs

[toxic idol]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[fallen hinge]

Raid (shadowlegends) boss

[harsh jungle]

Hello, do u have any information about cross-progress in near future? I spent over 300hrs on ps version - now get steam version. Any possibility to transfer data?

[fallen hinge]

Wrong channel to ask that

[sly kettle]

Wrong section to ask this.

[vocal haven]

Wrong covenant to ask dat

[balmy axle]

foreshadowing

[remote dragon]

sometimes foreshadowing is relatively obvious

[balmy axle]

stage 2 completed

Mission 3 - INDUSTRIAL SABOTAGE + 1 Dreadnought - Mactera Plague + Volatile Guts

this is for standard DD though

[outer bloom]

🙄

[vocal haven]

Mactera Plague 😫

[sly kettle]

Urgh

[balmy axle]

macteria

yeah standard DD is really ass this week

[vocal haven]

Maleria

[fallen hinge]

Macterraria

[torn verge]

edd stage 2 dread is hivegaurd

[vocal haven]

@quiet mortar

[balmy axle]

Stage 3 DD is Twins.

[sly kettle]

How's the Nitra?

[balmy axle]

i have over 400 without bothering to mine very much

[woeful patrol]

I SWEAR TO GOD THE SABOTAGE ONE

[sly kettle]

That's nice to hear.

[balmy axle]

lootbug plague on refinery mission made it easy

[woeful patrol]

Hum

I have a Nemesis during the Sabo, is it normal ? 🗿

[vocal haven]

😶‍🌫️

[woeful patrol]

I'm like, playing Cryo Driller at the moment and you tell me that I have to manage Sabo, Twins and a Nemesis ? 🗿

May Karl be with me

[mint basalt]

Same, fuck

[sly kettle]

It's my Driller week as well.. so it's gonna be awful.

[olive siren]

Haunted Cave

[swift nova]

Wait what

Am I tripping, or do we have a different DD mission?

[toxic idol]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[swift nova]

Codename: Deadly End in the Salt Pits

[toxic idol]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[quiet mortar]

Old one from last week, restart to get the new one

[toxic idol]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[swift nova]

Ah crap

My host must've made an oopsie

[sly kettle]

Yeah, they didn't restart their game.

[nova hearth]

stage 3 EDD is industrial sabotage, 150 morkite, regenerative bugs, rich atmosphere

[outer bloom]

Are you kidding me

[nova hearth]

sadly, no...

[torn verge]

this is correct

[swift nova]

Pain

[wraith shard]

oh no

[shut plover]

they really like sabotage ig

[nova hearth]

regenerative patrol bots monkaS

[balmy axle]

oh my GOD'

at least it's not low atmosphere

[outer bloom]

Within the past 4 weeks, there have been 6 instances of Industrial Sabotage. This is ridiculous

[balmy axle]

53 min clear of standard deep dive

considering how all 3 map layouts are horrible that's probably pretty decent

[woeful patrol]

Oh hell no, I'm not going to the stage 3 of the EDD

Too much pain

[balmy axle]

are refine and now indy more likely to generate because they can't be secondaries?

that might explain it

its showing up exactly twice as often as it "should"

[hollow citrus]

I have a feeling they're rigging the RNG to produce DDs with sabo

just like how rival presence just happened to appear the week s2 launched

[unkempt saffron]

sabos doing its best to ruin its reputation even further

[shut plover]

i like that they are faster but i dont like having to do them every deep dive every week

[unkempt saffron]

tbf there were no sabos in edd last week, but man if we're gonna get sabos every week now they should at least be more fun and interesting

[shut plover]

yea

[swift nova]

Imagine haz 5.5 sabo with haunted cave

[waxen terrace]

god pray the ghost only aggros the scout

[hollow citrus]

having sabo and dread be allowed was surprising imo, I thought they didnt want missions with multiple boss fights

[grim glacier]

because of the dreads getting instakilled by the Caretaker's death wipe, i assume

[zenith ember]

Wait does the regen affects caretaker

No, right....

[balmy axle]

low O2 AND haunted cave

have fun standing still but also running while also doing a holdout mission against ranged enemies that you need to but also can't take cover from

[sly cipher]

.

[swift nova]

Speaking of

Can DD missions have double warnings?

[zenith ember]

I dont think so?

As in 2 negative ones

[woeful patrol]

I just started the EDD and I can hear Nemesis 🗿

[woeful patrol]

I think yes

[hollow citrus]

no

at least 2 out of 3 missions will have warnings, but never two warnings at once

chance of anomaly is 25% as well

[torn verge]

no
it does affect patrol bots and turrets though

[zenith ember]

💀

[woeful patrol]

Damn, I thought it was possible

My bad

[hazy umbra]

just promoted and what's a good build for driller (no oc) also probably not optimal but i usually play solo

[hazy lily]

Wait the DDs this week are double s3 sabo

Lmao

RNGesus must hate DDs

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/1060538466095616032/20230105043943_1.jpg?width=1174&height=660

Another EDD week , another caretaker being a pushover

rich atmosphere makes it fun

Went in blind with randoms and we still smashed it so don’t worry so much

The leeches in stage 1 got me more than anything kek

[woeful patrol]

Hehe, Titanic Mouth

[balmy axle]

flamethrower 2323X + subata X1311
literally any cryo as long as you take cold radiance + 21122 EPC (always use thin containment field implosion, not normal shots)

also don't play elim solo

you will not have a great time as driller

[lime meteor]

tcf on everything

basically

[balmy axle]

TCF is just overpowered man

300 damage nukes

also because this is deep dive discussion i should point out that you absolutely shouldnt play driller this week

[wraith shard]

did the EDD first try, a bulk detonator spawned at our escape pod on stage 2, jumpscared us

[wraith shard]

I played driller on the EDD and it went smooth

[balmy axle]

you had OCs i'm sure

[wraith shard]

yeah

[balmy axle]

also "us" means not solo

[wraith shard]

fat boy is so good against the caretaker

our engi melted it

I used to think that C4 was the best method of dealing with the caretaker until I saw how effective fat boy is

[woeful patrol]

Well, the EDD wasn't that bad after all

I may have overreacted

[hazy lily]

Fat boy is really good if you can spare the ammo

So for missions like these it'll be great, but a stage 1 or 2 sabo would suck

[remote dragon]

bruh

stage 1 EDD

at the end

a dreadnought spawned

💀

[karmic flame]

huh, the first stage of regular deep dive wasnt as bad as i expected

the cave is small as hell so its easy to know where the horror is and kite him around

he also made a bunch of useful tunnels lol

[unreal copper]

Horror is overrated

Unless you are one of those "lets hide in a corner every time I see multiple bugs" players, you can usually just walk away from it

[tender escarp]

This elite deep dive was loads of fun, except when the Twin dreadnoughts came after 5 minutes, that was less fun

[pulsar kernel]

Normal dive was alright even if we managed to accidentally trigger the twins in the middle of a power station hack on stage 3

Was a bit touch and go

[karmic flame]

stage 1 of the normal one was intimidating, but turned out to be pretty easy

bosco my beloved

i literally didnt mine a single morkite or aquark

all i did is kite the bulk around while bosco did all the work

[pulsar kernel]

oof soloing that could definetly be a pain

lotta tight tunnels for the aquarqs instead of an open cave

[karmic flame]

its not too bad if you know how to use the bulk to make tunnels for you

[rocky quarry]

Snackquarks 👅

[night talon]

Data rack bah.

[grave narwhal]

Combat highlights of this week's EDD (downless): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCkHXZ2L480

[elfin rose]

They just keep giving us data racks dont they

[red egret]

data racks are my least favorite or most loved missions depending on the cave

think ill be ok this week tho

[wary marlin]

yeah same although I'm getting a little tired of detonators showing up right as I'm hacking

[silk dragon]

deep dives isn't the same anymore when there are sabotages 😔

[sand schooner]

My group hoped to use a bulk detonator to take out one of the twins on deep dive yesterday, but the stars didn't align.

[cinder wharf]

what's in the deep dive today

[brisk spear]

@cinder wharf

[marble veldt]

EDD done with @river pawn and @white yarrow.
Great team, good coordination.
I did Scout things.
I love my build.
Last stage was quite generous in Nitra and Rich Atmosphere made Caretaker fight more akin to figure skating
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/1060657132342608002/image.png?width=1202&height=676

[river pawn]

@white yarrow sucks i hate him

[white yarrow]

Mushroom!

[river pawn]

(good game)

[white yarrow]

second stage was weird

Im surprised such a short mission was there

[marble veldt]

Nice and short is fine by me

[ashen veldt]

How's the EDD this time around?

[river pawn]

not too bad

the sabo at the end has a particularly forgiving warning (regenerative bugs) and you'll have so much nitra it won't be too bad

first and second stage are quite easy as well

[marble veldt]

Regen Bots tho

[river pawn]

yeah but i guess i didn't feel the effect since i was using EMd + HP with fire

[marble veldt]

Good thing ASS 3 shots patrol bots

And HP one taps yeh

I had some weird rollbacks but hey, to be expected when joining someone on the other side of the world

[severe tusk]

Supercooling Chambers M1000 can one shot them too, I think. And, of course, overheating them with the flamethrower still works well too.

[marble veldt]

That ASS do be nice tho

[river pawn]

i was aiming for their head-eye thing and then i realized "oh wait, it instantly ignites"

kaboom

[honest folio]

Has anyone ever worked out how many possible builds there are for a weapon?

Wonder how hard it would be

Basic maths really, just take a while

[hollow flower]

There needs to be a serious look at how often sabotage missions occur. They should be scaled to how often they occur naturally. These deep dives have been so unenjoyable with industrial sabotage occurring every week

[honest folio]

Legit

It is pain

Plus with shield disrupt last week

Or maybe that was the week before

Regardless

Pain

[hollow flower]

It’s just not plain fun. I’ve been giving it a shot since S3 dropped but i can’t stand how often they appear

[severe tusk]

It's just random, it will even out eventually.

[toxic idol]

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[coral pond]

check the pins

[royal magnet]

Industrial sabotage won't grow on you this week I'll just say that

[hollow flower]

But it shouldn’t be weighed in the same as the other missions. Only one sabotage spawns per rotation

[royal magnet]

I want it banned at this point 🤣

[hollow flower]

I would like it removed as well but honestly if it was rare like it should be it would be fine

[coral pond]

yeah if it wasn't happening every week it would be fine

[toxic idol]

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[royal magnet]

Oh no that's probably next week's

[severe tusk]

You can't have the same primary mission type on back-to-back DD/EDD stages.

[toxic idol]

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[wraith shard]

engineer with fat boy is a really fun strat for caretaker

[south oak]

this week's EDD stage 1 and 2 is oddly low on nitra.

weird

stage 3 is a full blessing of 3 resupplies, lol.

[flat bronze]

if pawfathers is here, who just sat through 90 minutes of carrying me through a deep dive after I accidentally sent us on a two-man (I meant to wait for more I swear), you're so real for that ty

and I hope you got better overclocks and cosmetics than I did

[toxic idol]

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[hazy lily]

Don't you dare jinx us

[hazy lily]

Yeah, apart from that it's easy

[hazy lily]

Is it nuke the top? Or can you just hit the side and it works fine

[chrome patrol]

Was doing the EDD tonight. Had a scout that died 23 times, took ammo when he didn’t need it (Because he died before he had a chance to shoot), then left to leave us at the Caretaker with 1 ammo drop, no nitra, no health, regenerating enemies and no real way of doing damage

[wraith shard]

Nuking the top gives the best chance to hit all vents

[ashen hill]

any suggestions for EDD?
thisll be my first one so I just wanna get some insight

[woeful niche]

if u are comfortable on haz 5, the edd is not bad at all

[woven anvil]

this week's deep dive was something alright

Go neurotoxin cc + bulldog homebrew max ammo, I said. It would be fun, I said

[woven anvil]

[river pawn]

the deep dives are pretty easy this week

[woven anvil]

not when im

[ashen hill]

ah alr, I have yet to unlock it, only been playing for abt a week

[devout drift]

20 minutes of pain and suffering against the caretaker but i finally turned my brain on and we kicked its ass

i don't get nearly enough reward for the effort i put in on that damn boss

[chilly iris]

Neurotoxin Payload my beloved

carry me away from all these swarms

[devout drift]

there should be a mod that makes the autocannon shoot fat boy rounds

[chilly iris]

Or just a grenade

Fat Nade

want more nades

[dim lotus]

Industrial sabotage in both hahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhq I can't take anymore the voices are in my head get out get out get out get out get out

[chilly iris]

F-found s-something!

[tranquil estuary]

can i kill the invisible guy in the beginning>

?

[lone monolith]

nope, gotta kite it around

[chilly gorge]

question

if i press public that makes my session visible to anyone browsing deep dives

nvm

someone joined

[halcyon mesa]

yo, how do I start a deep dive?

[chilly gorge]

go to deep dive terminal and choose solo private or public

then launch

[lone monolith]

deep dive console near the windows, have to have at least 1 class promoted at least once

[halcyon mesa]

huh

thought there was other steps

[radiant halo]

if you do make a public lobby on dives, i suggest waiting until you get however many dwarves you'd like. players cannot join during the dives unless they were there and disconnected for whatever reason
also you can't seem to reconnect if you lose connection during the caretaker fight, so you may be down a dwarf until it's killed

[river pawn]

rich atmo makes the final stage a cakewalk tbh

[chilly gorge]

just completed the refining mission

wtf

one dreadnought and one caretaker

[golden vale]

do the hip thing, use the caretaker to kill the dreadnoughts

[dim lotus]

That works? Does the caretaker actually do good damage?

[chilly gorge]

i just completed it

but i didnt know you could do that

that was my first deep dive

i completed it 1:12:59

[wraith shard]

Is the elite dive not too bad this week?

[small aspen]

really easy

[river pawn]

it's pretty chill

[steep pulsar]

Stage 1 looks rough, and I'd argue that 3'd be too if it weren't rich atmosphere

[karmic flame]

mostly stage 1 isnt too bad, but the cave is really long so unless you use dark morkite, running back to the drop pod will be tough

even molly only makes it back there with 1 minute and 30 seconds left

approximately

and for the second stage, please lure the drednought to a different room when fighting him, the room that the coocoon is in is awful

i lost 3 revives because i got too confident

[karmic flame]

YOOOOOO

FINALLY

I BEAT MY FIRST EDD

[tough sapphire]

is it just me or this week's elite deep dive is...easier?

[tough sapphire]

ALSO FUUUUCK YEEEAAAH

[tough sapphire]

like idk, i've been struggling on the past ones a lot more

then again i did C4 the ever living shit out of that caretaker sooo...

[karmic flame]

This one didnt have any black boxes

Thats probably the case

Also, is solo concidered more difficult that co-op?

[silk dragon]

2 types of DDs lobbies:

• NOOO DON'T START 2 HACKING PODS AT THE SAME TIME IT'S TOO HARD FOR US AND DON'T WASTE NITRA!!!! 😭 😢 😫
• Fuck it, twins and 2 hacking pods with no nitra 🫡 😎 😳

[lusty fiber]

Damn bro caretakers again

[chilly gorge]

What’s the difference between deep dive and elite deep dive

[magic lava]

Higher haz lvl

[summer sinew]

DD - (Haz)3 - 3 - 3.5
EDD - 4.5 - 5 - 5.5

DD is for everyone and EDD is for greybeards

[magic lava]

How many nukes to disable the caretaker on haz 5.5 ?

[summer sinew]

It has 45% explosion resistance and our smol nuke has 425 dmg? iirc

so.. umm fk it

[magic lava]

Only talking about the vents when it's spinning

[summer sinew]

i guess 2

[magic lava]

[summer sinew]

2 for each phase

[magic lava]

I should invest in some more dmg then

I went with more ammo

[summer sinew]

data rack is in the last stage so i think you need to spam resup pods

a hell lota of pods

[magic lava]

Good thing it's stage 3

I can use all my nitra

[storm tulip]

Just thinking bout the two error cubes I left behind because my silly self died trying to deposit them

[tidal verge]

man this first stage of regular deep dive is just dystrum

[azure echo]

I did this weeks edd and we had almost no nitra to call a Resupply and almost failed

At the last stage

[tidal verge]

good lord

this haunted cave is evil

[hollow citrus]

EDD was ok ish

had an unlucky random dread one stage 1

[tawny moon]

i want more goo

[tidal verge]

goddd

having to contend with this fuckin ghost bulk in point extraction is a nightmare

[wooden lily]

it wasnt that bad

just use it to make tunnels for u

[tidal verge]

holy fucking SHIT.

this refinery mission is god awful
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[lone monolith]

idk i thought the deep dive was dope this week

went smooth af

[tidal verge]

just

the placement of the refinery is the worst ive ever seen

[silk dragon]

you haven't see many things then

[lone monolith]

sweet summer child lmao

[glossy walrus]

yeah this one wasn't that bad, there are somewhat direct tunnels leading to each pump other than one, just have to do a bit of detouring without a driller

far worse is when the refinery spawns in a pit and all the pumps are high up in the ceiling

[weak venture]

Its always a good time when each pumpjack and the refinery are on different levels and you are stuck with no driller

It's how rollercoasters are born

[silk dragon]

enginner? 🤨

[vague sentinel]

is the current EDD like doable? im not sooo good at these so is it remotely possible?

any tipps?

[wraith shard]

caretakers again whyyyy 😭

[wraith shard]

very possible, I'd recommend doing it with other ppl tho, more fun imo and probably easier, just bring good single target damage to the caretaker and maybe a driller or fatboy engie for the vents. I did it duo gunner and that worked rly well.

[sly vapor]

this edd is better than the dd honestly

[vague sentinel]

ok ty ima try and do that. normally i play the edd´s with my engi cause hes such a versatile class, but i never used fat boy really. for such jobs i always use driller and his stchels.

[vague sentinel]

really??...mission wise i guess. cause difficulty wise the edd is always worse 😄

[sly vapor]

maybe nitra is a little bit lacking, but it shouldnt be a problem

[hollow citrus]

only good thing about sabo is that it's full of nitra usually

same as refinery

[karmic condor]

Unless the game throws 2 Bulks, a Nemesis, and a gd random spawn Dread at you in the first stage

[wraith shard]

Just wing it you’ll be fine

[hollow wasp]

we had the worst run on the EDD

ran out of ammo twice, had to pickaxe the dreadnaught to death in mission 2

then we ran out a second time on the caretaker

cant pickaxe him i guess

[silk dragon]

skill issue tbh

[fading folio]

to the 3 that helped me get through my first deep dive and was an epic hour and a half - THANK YOU!!!!

fearful cemetery - salt pits!

there was a cave leech that took down 3 but i walked so slow and set up a turret to take it out - saved all 3

[river pawn]

the cave for this week's deep dive stage 1 is really odd

feels like a morkite expedition cave

it was pretty fun

[jaunty crag]

Yeah, DD stage 1 was mainly PE but the cave gen is so strange. small and tight corridors with some medium-sized rooms

its like mining expedition and PE cave gens were mixed

[toxic vortex]

If you leave a DD on stage 3, do you keep the rewards from the first two stages?

I have no interest in cosmetic matrix cores or industrial sabotage missions.

[pure cedar]

Yes, you keep the 2 previous ocs obtained...though leaving your fellow brothas.... that's another story.

[coarse bronze]

This weeks deep dive is an absolute mess

[toxic vortex]

I'll do the normal one solo probably. If I am in a team, I'll try my best on round 3, but the caretaker is just so cancerous. It's easy to get overwhelmed in that fight. There are things trying to kill you from all directions at all times.

[coarse bronze]

Not that bad if a fight with a team. As long as someone is handling arms and turrets as their job

[pure cedar]

We agree on the fact that caretaker is cancerous for sure

[hollow flower]

It always plays the same way which makes it boring IMO. Every other mission always feels different

[coarse bronze]

Well that’s not always true

Sometimes its WORSE because of terrain. I once had a caretaker entirely surrounded by bog goo

[fading folio]

whats the next step after i finish my first deep dive

elite?

[fast stratus]

Finish the next one

[fading folio]

o snap

do they get harder?

[fast stratus]

No

Well sometimes, but that's just bad rng

[balmy axle]

i remember seeing an EDD that was far worse, and also in crystalline caves with low O2

also it was stage 3

[half canopy]

“You guys aren’t 😢doing the deep dive 😢the way I wanted 😭 so I’m going to leave”

• small pp DRG player 2023

[hardy osprey]

Is it worth bothering with Deep Dives if you only play alone or with randoms?

[flat bronze]

yes it is

[half canopy]

Yeah to be fair I’ve done loads and only had two people leave and we still finish it

[radiant halo]

i find it hard to complete dives in trios, something is off with trio scaling imo

[whole jasper]

If I want to do a deep dive but one person in my party doesn't have a promoted dwarf is it still possible?

[radiant halo]

nope, you gotta have a star

[whole jasper]

okay thx

[radiant halo]

you can play any promoted class no matter the rank but unprompted classes cannot go on dives

np !

[grave hill]

Hello, good evening. Could you tell me what requirements I have to have to order the "new level of danger: lethal"?

[burnt cloud]

The missions for that assignment need to be done on Hazard Level 4 to progress

[whole jasper]

how long is a deep dive if were 2 person?

[wraith shard]

if you go really fast you can get it done in half an hr

[supple field]

good lok1 executioner build for dds/haz5?

currently using 11312, but idk how good that is

[whole jasper]

alr thx for the info

[wraith shard]

there was a nemesis in the stage 1 of EDD and my friend overheated it as gunner

pretty cool

tho I wasted a bunch of ammo 🥹

[lofty parrot]

The cave gen is super funky on the dd. Never seen anything like it

[coral pond]

you don't want blowthrough with exec, take 11112

[supple field]

cool thanks

[safe gulch]

I for one think DD stage 1's generation is a fresh take, very unique

Not so for my claustrophobic friend though, he C4-ed most of the small tunnel entrances

[steel python]

Has everyone in this week's EDD blown up the dread with a bulk detonator?

[wraith shard]

not me

also did you mean with the caretaker death aoe?

cos not that either

where's the fun in that

[steel python]

I genuinely get the red sugar sucked out of me whenever I see industrial sabotage during a deep dive because I know the caretaker is going to chew through a lot of our ammo

Unless it's at stage 3 where saving ammo doesn't matter anymore

[wraith shard]

only order what you need, simples

[brisk pagoda]

what will screw a team over more than anything is people wasting far too much time doing who knows what instead of shooting the boss. the longer you take to push each phase, the more shit he spawns, and the more it will snowball if people die.

[wraith shard]

moral of the story is pull your weight in deep dives 👍

[swift olive]

the dorito returns

[fallen hinge]

EDD Caretaker is quite a breeze. It was kinda funny because prior to the fight, one of my teammates was like "No bunker? Haz 5.5 Caretaker isn't a joke." One easy fight later, I said "'No joke' my ass."

[brisk spear]

bunkering during caretaker 💀

[wraith shard]

btw what exactly is bunkering, is that like where the driller drills out the wall for ppl to stand in the zone on salvage or is it like drilling a tunnel then drilling out a room so you can hide and funnel enemies?

[fallen hinge]

the latter

[wraith shard]

oh

yeah wtf idk why you'd do that during caretaker

how are you supposed to shoot it

💀

[fallen hinge]

Good thing the driller didn't opt for it

[wraith shard]

based driller

it's pretty easy to avoid damage during caretaker anyway just keep moving and you'll be fine

nothing is a serious threat unless you stand still