deep-dive-discussion

[spring cobalt]

stage 2 was really unpleasant

definitely the most challenging part of the EDD

[median sequoia]

I finished the EDD, I am upset with the reward it gave me XD weapon skin set for Driller

[vague fulcrum]

anyone has the info on the mission for edd part 3?

[old widget]

Pinned messages has info on current DD/EDD. (Ignore the date, the post is edited in place each week)

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[wraith shard]

this weeks EDD wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was gonna be

tho that's likely cos my group is competent I'd hate to play it in pubs

[severe tusk]

Yeah, I still need to do this week's EDD. It will be the 2nd week in a row I waited until the last day or two to do it.

[foggy ice]

Any one on playstation want to help me grind deep dives

In a half hour

[unkempt saffron]

#lfg-playstation

[static hornet]

can you do deep dives multiple times a week to get multiple overclocks?

[burnt sandal]

no

[wraith shard]

you can do the core hunt multiple times a week tho, it resets after you finish a promo assignment

[tulip hornet]

stage 2 of the edd is cancerous

not getting that weapon core this week

[tall meadow]

If folks need help for this week EDD, just let me know

[hollow stratus]

Just got done attempting an EDD. Stage 2 was a bloody nightmare.

[severe tusk]

I still think most of the bother is just that most people do not know how to fight the Caretaker effectively.

I don't like low O2, but Industrial Sabotage is mostly either defending areas or centered around the Caretaker, so it's not too hard to rotate to a resupply to catch your breath every now and then, and you usually need to call down 3-4 resupplies during those missions anyway.

[spring cobalt]

EDD stage 2 isnt that bad if you have a good understanding of the caretaker fight

primary issue for me was that i was using a neurotoxin/fear build

both of which are completely useless against a caretaker

so the DPS was very sad

any build that is actually useful in a caretaker fight should get you through it just fine

[limpid pond]

I think most people just suck against Caretaker, people came out in droves to complain about the Rich Atmosphere Sabo lmao

[humble sage]

My issue is that I find industrial sabotage unfun, to be distinguished from difficult. Note that I also find the fight difficult, but that's a secondary problem 😂

[sharp mesa]

god this week's elite dive is so fucking terrible

[hollow stratus]

I ran the same build and I would have to agree that even though it's very effective on repelling Glyphids from Hacksy, it's next to useless against the other Rivals. Fear works against the Shredders, but that's about all you can get out of the Autocannon. It just doesn't do the damage for the Caretaker and other robots.

[wraith shard]

Agreed. Over 7 attempts now and only one got past the first stage.

And then we got group wiped because the gunner's shield glitched out and didn't deploy like it should have

[sharp mesa]

I got through the first part on the first attempt but we died in the bossfight

The critter spams sniper turrets

anyway, new one tomorrow, hopefully less awful

[pseudo radish]

i decided to play the EDD solo after the shellshock of not being able to revive my gunner because he was spinning on the caretaker

because fun fact the caretaker slightly moves such that its extremely difficult to revive someone on there

[dim bramble]

!dd

Any mactera plague in dd or edd on console?

ill take a crack at the EDD

Oh I see, DD is the only one with mactera plague this week

going to duo EDD with a pretty new scout

lets see how this goes

[subtle sphinx]

looks like about 3 and half hours until new dives

[woeful niche]

iv done the edd 4 times so far

it’s really not that bad if you bring a good sabo build

[haughty harbor]

prospector kept spawning arms underneath, half of the section was untraversable because of the exploding plants

frustrating

[dim bramble]

was doing good on second stage and then I plasma burster’d myself and sold

pain

this scout wants to try again

what a madman

[dim lotus]

why did they ever add care taker to deep dives

[dim bramble]

its not too hard but when someone goes down it all goes down hill

[dim lotus]

solo driller the fight takes like 20 minutes and 5 resupply

[dim bramble]

This im bringing stubby over lok rifle

the lok rifle wasnt that usable in caretaker

I wish I didnt plasma burster myself

we would of had it

shard diffractor melts caretaker

[glossy walrus]

lok is quite good against caretaker esp if you run executioner, lets you hit 3 eyes from one location which no one other than hurricane gunner can do, and doing it with gunner is a million times more effort

just need to have someone to take out the vents

[mint swift]

Did it already reset?

[glossy walrus]

engie can do it easily himself if he saddles himself with fatboy, or with more effort with plastcrete explosive but without neutering himself as much for everything else

or just having any driller around doing ceiling c4

oh I guess that's not entirely true, tfc epc driller should be able to hit 3 eyes from one place too, though is also more effort than lok does, just not as much as hurricane probably

[dim bramble]

Shard diffractor can destroy a caretaker stage in 2 clips

I was in a duo though

now a whole squad

[dim bramble]

2 hours of attempts for this EDD couldnt do it

It was a good try

u need a good start or ur screwed

need to get that first phase done asap

otherwise u will get staggered for the whole fight

we maybe would of had it if our driller didnt stand only inches from the caretaker when he got downed

we couldnt revive him

it was the last stage just needed to kill eyes

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[sly kettle]

Soon™

[short bloom]

You really need a driller on that

We basically called pods in places where the appendages couldn't get us

[dim bramble]

Same

but they started spawning on top of us

it got hectic real fast

[hazy lily]

I'm just hoping for no low o2 this time

The last three edds have been rough

[sly kettle]

Fourth time the charm, eh?

[hazy lily]

Don't even joke about it

That caretaker fight this week is tough

[short bloom]

we took advantage of the fact that the eye might move from side to side but it won't close completely unless you take 1/3rd of the health out

[oblique glen]

showtime?

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[marble veldt]

IT'S MUFFIN TIME

[oblique glen]

drilldozer :( at least it's in a good zone

[sly kettle]

Good luck everyone

What about name / biome etc?

Deep Dive - Outrageous Delight - Crystalline Caverns
First Stage - Escort Duty | 2 Mini-Mules | Volatile Guts | Shield Disruption
Second Stage - Industrial Sabotage | Dreadnaught | N/A | Swarmageddon
Third Stage - 7 Aquarqs | 150 Morkite | N/A | N/A

Elite Deep Dive - Hunter's Madness - Radioactive Exclusion Zone
First Stage - 250 Morkite | 2 Mini-Mules | N/A | Shield Disruption
Second Stage - 4 Eggs | Black Box | N/A | Swarmageddon
Third Stage - Industrial Sabotage | 150 Morkite | N/A | Low Oxygen

Making a basic summary since Muffin seems to be missing.

[fossil tulip]

Outrageous Delight - Crystalline Cavern
Escort + 2 Mules with Volatile Guts + Shield Disruption

NDD ^

[candid bobcat]

i hope u guys like sabotage

[oblique glen]

it's better then escort

[candid bobcat]

EDD Hunter's Madness (2022-12-22 to 2022-12-29)
{"Seed":1429759295,"SeedV2":2208627937,"ExpirationTime":"2022-12-29T11:00:00Z"}
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + 2 Mini-mules | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + Blackbox | Swarmageddon
Stage 3: Industrial Sabotage + 150 Morkite | Low O2

[sly kettle]

Stage 3 though. It's like a cruel joke at this point.

[white osprey]

So stage 2 from last week is stage 3 now

How fun

[candid bobcat]

i hope u like sabo in dd too

with swarmageddon

[sly kettle]

How do you even get this info?

[candid bobcat]

sandbox

if u mean mission seed, thats from the ghostship website api

[sly kettle]

Meant the stages.

[candid bobcat]

sandbox utils and skipping stages

[wraith shard]

i hope DRG goes easy on us with today's deep dives

last week's were difficult

[quiet mortar]

Sorry I'm late will have dives soon

[marble veldt]

IT'S MUFFIN TIME (for real this time)

[storm tulip]

How dare lool

[oblique glen]

dd2 is sabo + dreadnaught, with swarmageddon

[candid bobcat]

DD Outrageous Delight (2022-12-22 to 2022-12-29)
Region: Crystalline Caverns
Stage 1: Escort Duty + 2 Mini-mules | Shield Disruption + Volatile Guts
Stage 2: Industrial Sabotage + OG Dreadnaught | Swarmaggedon
Stage 3: 7 Aquarqs + 150 Morkite | No mutators

[oblique glen]

wow ok

[candid bobcat]

another week with IS, pain

[frail charm]

time to hyperprop some buckets of scrap

[wraith shard]

any info on the EDD?

[nova hearth]

EDD stage 3 monkaS

[unkempt saffron]

i swear to god man imma flip seeing all these low o2 sabos

[sly kettle]

Scroll up a bit. I made a basic summary.

[sly kettle]

Here

Thanks to @candid bobcat , it was the fastest summary up to date hahah

[oblique glen]

swarmaggedon would be so much more tolerable if bosco didn't sit on his ass and watch the swarmers

[nova hearth]

EDD info is accurate, didnt bring hyper prop for caretaker argh

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Outrageous Delight
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Volatile Guts Shield Disruption
Stage 2: Collect Data Rack + Dreadnought Classic | Swarmageddon
Stage 3: 7 Aquarq + 150 Morkite | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Hunter's Madness
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 1 Black Box | Swarmageddon
Stage 3: Collect Data Rack + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen

Big thanks to Memtransmute for this one you rock

[gusty grotto]

doing the EDD now

lets see how it goes

[wraith shard]

I AM NOT DOING THAT EDD

[glossy walrus]

pfff 5.5 low ox IS this time eh

[brazen musk]

We don't want sabotage in Deep Dives

My heart goes out to anyone grinding overclocks

[gusty grotto]

and then theres people like me who dont even get overclocks nor cosmetics just blank matrix cores lol

[brazen musk]

No-one is, I hope 💀

[storm tulip]

Last week was my first ever deep dive and I am wondering why people don't like sabotage

[wraith shard]

thankfully i have every weapon overclock so there's no harm in skipping a deep dive

[nova hearth]

just completed it, imo its easier this week

no burning ground to avoid

[pseudo radish]

thankfully i dont hold myself up to nonexistent stakes so there's no harm in skipping a deep dive

[brazen musk]

It's longer than any other mission type, which makes it fit better as a thing you do from time to time. If you are forced to do it during an assignment as a routine, which you usually do for matrix cores/promotions, it's making the grind longer without a good reason. It does get old when you do several promotion assignments and you do 3 sabotage missions in 3 assignments.

After that, you have to deal with the entire mission, which is really stressful. I don't have an issue doing it for fun but if I was grinding overclocks, I wouldn't be happy to be fighting robots, shredders, sniper turrets, etc. You can mess up really bad very easily in the caretaker fight.

I think the main issue is such a complex mission getting in the way of the progression system

[cobalt moat]

I just rush it on h1 :I got sick of it doing it again and again.

[brazen musk]

Also back when S2 came out, Jacob said they wouldn't be adding sabotage to assignments due to its mission length and how tricky it can be. They reduced its complexity but it's still way too long and stresful imo

[brazen musk]

That's fair, although it feels bad having to waste like 20 minutes on haz1, it gets dull

[pseudo radish]

i don't mind sabotage

[brazen musk]

I don't mind sabotage from time to time, though it gets dull having to do it 3-4 times in a week

If you don't mind it, I assume you will not be against it being optional

[cobalt moat]

well it actually takes like 10mins or something if you do both hacks at once with some frends

[brazen musk]

I also like playing solo

[sly kettle]

I did the same.

[gusty grotto]

I did EDD stage 3 in 16 minutes lol

I was driller so I cheesed the entire "shoot the vents" stage by throwing 2 c4s down to skip it

and since I had a resupply at the top of the map, I could just get more c4

[brazen musk]

Built different

[gusty grotto]

my team were built different

the second the stage was skipped they immediately took off a 1/3 of its health in like 30 seconds

there is so much nitra when you get to boss fight (we had 400 nitra) that low oxy didnt matter

i think our caretaker battle took 3 minutes

[glossy walrus]

it is a benefit of caretaker being s3 that you don't have to care about saving nitra

can just blow it all

[gusty grotto]

yeah and eng could just use fatboy to skip the stage too when nitra doesnt matter

[mortal cliff]

Low O2 IS on Haz 5.5

kek fucking W

[coral pond]

Sabo isn't that bad of a mission imo, but fuck how many times it's been on assignments and deep dives in s3. Went from my favorite mission type to one i just want to avoid at all times. I even have it on my haz5 unlock too. Shit's just annoying at this point

[hollow citrus]

imo there's nothing diff about sabo 1 except the cave is smaller than sabo 2

the mission itself is just as long and annoying

and the caretaker fight just gets old after doing it again and again

I have this feeling that they're adding sabo to assignments/DDs to force people to do it so they can get more data on it

[unkempt saffron]

I think it just feels stale in a similar vein to escort missions, and having sabo missions pop up as frequent as it is these past few weeks certainly does not help its reputation

[coral pond]

Yeah. Back when it wasn't forced on you through deep dives and assignments, it was a fun mission to do. Now i just want to avoid it as long as possible

[gusty grotto]

if you have half your team do each hack at the same time on DD the sabotage goes quite quickly

[wraith shard]

oh wow, that EDD wasn't as bad as it looks

first 2 stages are a breeze

i'll let y'all know how stage 3 goes

[gusty grotto]

stage 3 is a piece of cake if you got a good team

[wraith kraken]

low oxygen again

[twin ferry]

Another week of sabo

It just doesn't stop

Next week will be salvage, escort, and sabo

With dread and blackbox secondaries

[hollow citrus]

there's gonna be a week with double sabo I just know it

[wraith shard]

did it first try, had a good team and it wasn't as hard as last week's

[wraith kraken]

I always fail on stage 3

[short bloom]

Yaaaaay, another O2 with Caretaker except it's Haz 5.5

[unreal copper]

As long as nitra isn't so bad, it shouldn't an issue

the problem with last weeks edd was that nitra was a bit sparse on the first 2 levels

[dark umbra]

sabo with no mines is ok
but every week, it just gets annoying
I think I played more sabo missions this season then is season 1 and 2 combined

[unreal copper]

Of course you are playing more sabo -> they didn't show up in weeklies/promotions/dds before

[limpid pond]

This is nothing, I did the Sabo Milestone in Season 01 😩

[trail pivot]

dang, the haz 5 unlock haz sab now?

oh that's awful

[torn verge]

i don't like sabo in deep dives because of the pressures it places on loadout design
having high single target was useful but never constantly necessary before
but now, just in this weeks EDD, you have to build for swarmageddon eggs and low o2 caretaker

[trail pivot]

if not for the core hunt bug, none of us would even promote anymore.

[dark umbra]

But sometimes you had to do one for the season pass bonus rewards and I played it just for fun a couple of times, because it was a new kind of mission
but that was all optional
now I have to do it several times a week, which just kills the fun of it

[fallow niche]

hmm, edd sounds... miserable

i must do it

[pure cedar]

EDD = trading the driller for a 2nd gunner again this week?

[fallow niche]

start edd
bulk spawns in starting cave
this is gonna be fun, i can tell

[fallow niche]

always a good feel to get through stage 1 without calling a resup

[short bloom]

oh

nice, now I know

[zenith sinew]

Hello guys

Pinned message says that this week's EDD is in Radioactive zone, but I'm seeing Magma core and all 3 levels are the same as last week's EDD

yet when I completed parts of it, i got cores as if it was a different EDD.

Does anyone else see Magma core as EDD location?

[astral gyro]

sounds like last week EDD for me

i think may be you need to exit and re-log in again

[zenith sinew]

I actually did boot up the game just an hour ago, way after reset.

I even saw weeklies reset, but EDD was showing magma core.

And don't forget that I've gotten cores from its levels despite the fact that I've beat magma core EDD last week. And 3 people I've played with saw the same

[sonic anchor]

damn

that deep dive was tough

except for the first stage

edd*

[chilly obsidian]

How is it low O2 caretaker fight again? Just going to skip the EDD as a result.

[trail pivot]

reg is escort and sab, the priority is sab

the promo is sab the core hunt is sab

[zenith sinew]

Not just o2 caretaker, literally same level too

Oh, now it's fine. I see Radioactive zone.

[kindred coyote]

what how is it humanly possible to beat a dreadnought without a single resupply

i was in a trio and it took us a resupply + a tiny bit from a second

[fallow niche]

wha

oh

[chilly obsidian]

for a single dread?

[fallow niche]

there shouldnt be any dreads on this week's edd

[shut yew]

Caretaker low Oxygen

Again

[chilly obsidian]

Single dreadnaught with 3 people should be possible by using up half your reserves

[fallow niche]

its a decent area to fight it

just bring extra nitra

for lots of resups to get o2 off of

[shut yew]

Unless is Hiveguard, no resuply dreadnaught should be easy imo

[chilly obsidian]

A lot of newer players can waste a lot of ammo on dreadnaughts shooting at times or places they should not

I've seen an absurd number of really greenbeards shoot at the twins mid-heal. :(

[fallow niche]

i didnt have great trouble with the edd as solo gunner but then again >solo gunner

[robust saffron]

This week?

Another low oxygen caretaker mission, ouch

[modest ivy]

4 weeks straight of low o2

[hazy lily]

The worst sort as well

Sabo and aquarq

I guess PE wouldn't be great either

[soft prairie]

Welp, guess I'm not using neurotoxin for either deep dive lol

I believe I got a good build but we will see how it goes

[severe tusk]

I know NTP is considered OP by most people, but I tried it a few times and I just prefer killing things off immediately, even if NTP kills them slower but also fears them and so makes them not a threat. When you are playing with random people, they will usually waste time and ammo finishing off the targets you have tagged with NTP anyway. And then, yeah, it sucks vs. bots.

[brisk spear]

Good and factual take

[soft prairie]

You should try it with fear though, it's really damn good

[brisk spear]

😴

[soft prairie]

I even bring it to elimation to slow the boss down for the team

[brisk spear]

Bro

💀

[soft prairie]

?

It's a good crowd killer idk what you want me to say; "yeah the Neurotoxin sucks because other people focus the enemies" when half the time people may not pay attention to enemies while mining.

[raven niche]

edd time

[feral girder]

im having connections issues

like some sort of Connection Lost and what not despite me having a decent ping

[severe tusk]

I mentioned its ability to fear, but I would still just rather kills things off immediately. I also never said that it sucks. It is amazingly efficient, but I just do not personally like it.

[soft prairie]

Fair

[fallow niche]

ntp is great if you dont need to care about anything but swarmclear :p

[serene stratus]

That's why you run BRT or Bulldog specced for single target as a secondary

[short bloom]

How do they choose the next dives? Do they dump some dice inside molly and shake her unconscious?

Cause 4 straight weeks of O2 is ridiculous

[fallow niche]

i much prefer LSLS primary these days because it is extremely consistent and pretty much never detrimental to have

lots of things are resistant to explosives, fire, corrosive, electricity...
nothing is resistant to bullet

also high accuracy, hitscan, good ammo, and good against bots which is a great boon in my eyes
hellfire coilgun provides more swarmclear ability than i will ever need and works off a similar principle to ntp without taking up primary slot

[balmy axle]

they probably have some kind of "difficulty scale" point system and low o2 has perfect math to always be added

this is not the same as the normal hazard bonus because in the normal system crit weakness doesnt impact rewards at all and in an EDD it would obviously be a major difficulty adjustment

[raven niche]

edd lasted an hour and a half

good lord

[serene stratus]

Wow

Made the EDD, complete random group too

1hr and some

[severe tusk]

Random groups are all that I know.

[supple field]

good engi loadouts for deep dives/haz5?

[mortal cliff]

ECR lok-1 21111, Volatile Impact Ractor Shard Diffractor 31113

[limpid pond]

Why ECR with VIR? ECR is enough AoE, doubling down is just gonna bone you vs Dreads and other tanky enemies. Take Overdrive Booster (312x1) or Hyper Propellant (21112) with ECR

[mortal cliff]

SSGs, gemini turrets

[lone silo]

Another Low Oxygen, Rival Sabotage mission in the Elite Deep Dive this week lol

[lone silo]

somehow had no downs during the hacking or bossfight as a solo Scout

[supple field]

ay thanks

[severe tusk]

21111 Explosive Chemical Rounds for LOK-1 and it's basically hard to go wrong with an Engie secondary, but my generalist build uses 11123 Inferno Breach Cutter with Proximity Mines, 1211 turrets, Heightened Senses, and Dash. I also like Resupplier and and Born Ready. It's almost the only Engie loadout I have been using for the past year.

[sleek nexus]

t

[mortal cliff]

Why? Because I never suffer with 2 AOE options, normally I am the guy that kills all the shite, meanwhile rest of the team goes for big targets.

[lime meteor]

why not just run executioner so you don't have to rely on your team to kill the big stuff

[dim lotus]

industrial sabotage, industrial sabotage, industrial sabotage, industrial sabotage, industrial sabotage, industrial sabotage

i am going to die

[hazy lily]

This one isn't too bad tbh

You have a lot of nitra

Can spam resups everywhere for o2

[grim glacier]

soloed the EDD

i had six resupplies scattered about on stage 3

220 leftover nitro

it was just a slog

[wraith shard]

Another low o2 industrial sabotage, imma cry

Went it blind this week for shits and giggles

fun!

[mortal cliff]

because I don't have to do everything, do I?

[fallow niche]

i tend to lean in the opposite direction
i'll trust most randos to be capable of killing grunts
the trend for praets and oppressors, however, seems to be that they remain alive and bothersome for a shockingly long time if i do not zap them personally

[hazy lily]

Just had two nemi kills with no bullets fired:
Dotty killed one, rig killed the other

[severe tusk]

Nemesis could use a buff. Maybe give it some burst or sniper turrets on its back or have it spawn shredders or something.

[jagged lily]

whats the fastest way to level up?

[soft prairie]

Double XP missions @jagged lily

Wrong chat for that question however

[kindred coyote]

isnt that the third in a row bruh

[distant ivy]

I was just in the middle of a deep dive and the host aborted the mission omfg

[cunning walrus]

Fuck me

I lost three edds

First two gunner never used shield and we didn't have swarm clear. I was engy and had boost shard

Second one I go gunner bullet hell with stun

Amazing for swarms

But we also had crispr driller and fat boy engy

Fat boy engy is useless for everything but he destroys the shields on caretaker

Bit we don't have enough single target damage as driller as crisper I have bullet hell and no idea what the hell scout was doing

[wraith shard]

LOL the EDD what is this bullshit lmao

still gonna beat it thanks to one simple trick called competent teammates

[glossy walrus]

we found it easier than the last one

not needing to worry about not having a place to stand helped a bit

used the same long range double gunner strat we did last time, this time with lsls+jfh, worked great

double gunner is so busted when you can just ignore anything shooting at you with chained shields, esp on a stage3 when you have infinite resupplies

we sat outside of repulsor range and just unloaded while shields ignored tentacles and bots

[lime meteor]

caretaker was easy this edd

[dim bramble]

true

we had no gunner so it was a lot more hectic

we couldnt stand anywhere near the caretaker basically

without immediately dying

[spring elm]

The Refinery came down on the Nemesis during our deep dive it was Glorious

[verbal pewter]

You’re telling me I have to do low oxy Caretaker AGAIN

I’m gonna have to rally the troops again

At least it’s last so I can spam resupplies without concern

Relatively speaking

[lusty fiber]

Again caretaker

Maybe time to try sticky flames

[storm tulip]

doing regular deep dive right now and nemesis just got annihilated by the rig dropping on it lmao

[golden vale]

eh, sabotage is one of the least affected by low ox. prefer that to a lot of the other mutators.

[wraith shard]

yeah i realized that as well

[gaunt oyster]

this regular DD has an error cube, nice

[marsh quest]

Interesting

[grave narwhal]

Full run of this week's EDD (downless): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mssNNi1CoG4

[lime meteor]

ok

[hazy lily]

I'd agree if it's on the last stage, like this week

Last week it sucked bc it was on stage 2 and there wasn't much nitra, so you couldn't spam resups

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/1055836855918141481/20221223051722_1.jpg?width=1179&height=663

fun EDD with randoms again

[unkempt saffron]

interesting to see a stubby with ssr built for damage

[candid mountain]

Just got fucked by elite deep dive cause teammates left

[grave narwhal]

First off, thanks a lot for watching the vid. That really helps a small channel like mine, Secondly, I have a stupid question: What is ssr?

[coral pond]

super slim rounds, i'm assuming

the overclock

[grave narwhal]

Ahh ok ok...thanks for clarifying. 🙂 Well yes, I mostly prefer the damage increasing mods for weapons. And I'm also inclined towards clean ocs mostly, coz I'm usually put off by the downsides of other ocs.

[worn flame]

whats deep dive?

[grave narwhal]

A deep dive is a series of 3 tough missions which can be accessed from the deep dive menu in the game. You need to promote a class at least once though before you can start a deep dive.

[unkempt saffron]

super slim rounds

[ornate girder]

should a greenbeard(me) attempt edd

[mortal cliff]

worst thing that can happen is that you gonna fail the team and be a hinderence

best- a small nuisance

[ornate girder]

thats exactly what i dont want to do

[mortal cliff]

how many OCs do you have?

[ornate girder]

oc?

[mortal cliff]

weapon overclocks

[hazy lily]

Go for it I'd say

[ornate girder]

none on my highest level character unfortunately

[hazy lily]

Assuming you comfortable with haz 4/5

[ornate girder]

ive done haz 4s but not 5s

[mortal cliff]

or better, how many promotions do you have, did you do "Breach the core" assignment and do you have haz 5 unlocked?

[hazy lily]

You'll prob be fine, just remember that nitra is conserved between stages

[ornate girder]

1 promo on driller working to the next, done, not done, respectively.

i started two days ago :>

[hazy lily]

Damn, come a long way in two days

[ornate girder]

i have about 30 hours

school holiday :>

im just going to wait for my other friends, so i dont ruin a random's day :> thanks for the help

[hazy lily]

Can always find someone in #lfg-steam

[mortal cliff]

well, I started playing DD and EDD when I had promotions for all my classes and at least one OC for each class

but that's just me being silly with balanced progression and having everything on the same level classwise

[grave narwhal]

have you done a deep dive?

[mortal cliff]

but yeah, attempt EDD when you feel comfortable on haz 4

[ornate girder]

yep ive done the normal one it was fairly straightforward aside for the no shield

[grave narwhal]

then go for it!

[ornate girder]

i dont think i would survive no shield on haz 5 tho thats why im hesitant

[grave narwhal]

what's your main class? the class you're most comfortable with?

[ornate girder]

ive been playing driller mostly

[grave narwhal]

nice...then maybe try out the sludge pump. that's a pretty good weapon. but for this week's edd, driller won't be the best option imo. Any of the other 3 classes would be better. coz you have the caretaker fight on the last stage...which is haz 5.5. and driller isn't really my first choice for it.

[ornate girder]

gotcha ill level up my gunner before attempting

[limpid pond]

Driller is the best class for Sabo tho???

There's no Dreads, so you can take CRSPR to torch bots

[grave narwhal]

apologies...what's crspr?

[limpid pond]

[grave narwhal]

oh lol.

[celest silo]

it crsps

[ornate girder]

I thought u were going to point out that a c4 will damage all 4 caretaker shields at once(provided ure a ceiling mole)

[grave narwhal]

oh right. yup...pretty good weapon. I just feel though that ballistic weapons do more damage or well...maybe i'm just more comfortable with em. xD But yup...if you're doing in as driller, flamethrower as your primary is a must.

[grave narwhal]

*going in

[unkempt saffron]

I know youve already had answers but no, simply dont do edds until you feel confident enough to do them, a simple benchmark is being able to complete haz 5 missions regularly

[gray panther]

Eh. If you have a good group, haz4 to edd is okay

I haven't touched the last few edds though because I abhore low ox

[violet warren]

Wow, this regular deep dive is harder than the elite deep dive

A haz 3 nemesis (hell, even a haz 1 nemesis) is exactly the same threat as a haz 5 nemesis, it doesn't matter what the hazard level is when it can just grab the team and execute them immediately on entering a new cave

[limpid pond]

Seize and Destroy Protocol is only a full HP kill on Haz 5 🤨

[unkempt saffron]

Haz 4 is fine too, but i think if youre gonna be doing edds you gotta at least dip your toes into haz 5 stuff beforehand

[dusty spindle]

Shard diffractior mods

Which ones should I choose?

[violet warren]

It's a grab and kill, it kills regardless of difficulty

Luckily I was able to kill it with the iron will damage bonus after doing a field medic insta-revive

[sturdy rain]

Just lost a standard dive to the morkite on 3rd stage being in a small corridor

Feelin good

[storm tulip]

Unfortunately, as I was about to fight nemesis it was destroyed by deposit thingy coming down lmao

[violet warren]

Our third stage nemesis didn't die to that but gas recycling AI stability engine just wrecks its weakpoints anyways

The first stage one was the problem because there's no way to avoid it grabbing people on breaching a new cave in escort

[coral pond]

Haz 3 player, never been killed by a single grab from a nemesis(which happens on haz 5)

[storm tulip]

I like your funny words, dwarf person. Dunno what "gas recycling AI stability engine" is but rock n stone

[coral pond]

ai stab eng iss an overclock for scout's gk2, and gas recycling is for scout's zhukovs

[storm tulip]

Oh I played scout for the first time today

[neat talon]

Disconnected from EDD 3 times, gosh darnit

Is the swarm timing on the first stage EDD weird? It seems like a very long interval.

[wooden lily]

this one doesnt seem as bad as last weeks ngl

[river pawn]

wonder if it's possible to do an entire DD without ever resupplying

[limpid pond]

Maybe with NTP or Minelayer

[severe tusk]

There are videos of people doing HAZ 5 with only pickaxes, so I am sure it's possible.

[tribal sandal]

Sure it is

Go solo scout with good mission choices and maps

Like point extraction refinery and eggs are the easiest prolly

Cuz bug rooms are good for kiting while Bosco does objectives

I beat one stage using only pheromone bases to wipe the swarm once it got too big

[celest sluice]

Ugh, why did they ever start putting industrial sabo in the dd rotation

i hate that mission with a burning passion

[dusty spindle]

The amount of nitra needed just to fight the care taker

Good thing the caves are huge

[severe finch]

Lost at the final stage of EDD because the host went nuts with the resupplies in the first two stages

love to see it

[unreal copper]

To be fair, it is way more common to fail a deep dive because no one wants to call a resupply too early, even though you are sitting on 300 nitra

[severe finch]

Well, yeah. And then there's calling a resupply when 2 players are still at 80-90% ammo

[lone lodge]

anyone else get 2 nemesis on the normal dd?

[trail pivot]

I didn't see him at all

[elfin cipher]

This EDD was suprisingly easy

[storm tulip]

Just one, on part 3

[lone lodge]

hmm, i had one on one and 3

[hazy lily]

Yup, and both got killed without a bullet fired

Dotty got one, and the rig got the other

It was beautiful

[coral pond]

only saw 1 myself on stage 3, wasn't auto killed by the rig so had to actually fight it

[storm tulip]

Ayy same for the rig. Just as I was resigned to fighting it, big rig noscoped that trash heap

[humble sage]

holy crap
this EDD is hilarious
I love it so much 😂
15 detonators and oppressors killing everyone
"DO NOT LEAVE THE TRIANGULATION ZONE. PLEASE, PLEASE, RETURN TO THE TRAIGNULATION ZONE. WE'RE LOSING YOUR SIGNAL."

[lost jungle]

it is

technically

its really depends on ur objectives tho

if u get dread/sabo then its probably not possible

[unkempt saffron]

Looks like you got dealt a shitty deck of bulks, i barely had any when i played the edd twice

[humble sage]

oh whoa

yeah i did it 4 times, the first 3 times we got 1 det in stage 1, and 2-3 in stage 2 i think

we just died on stage 3 though

oh well, i can't be arsed to waste another hour on it

[knotty zealot]

hours well wasted though

the bulks are the spice of every dive

[humble sage]

lmao

the first 2 stages were fun

the 3rd isn't

not like 'challenging'. just unfun, so I have no qualms about not wasting my time on another low O2 IS again 🤷‍♂️

I am happy with my 2 cores ❤️

[knotty zealot]

when 2 out of 3 people dont bring anti sabo because "surely we wont have another one this week"

[humble sage]

😂

RNG giveth, and RNG taketh away

[fiery coyote]

The Dreadnoughts + Rival Army Stage was insane

Can't believe I actually managed to survive that

[dim snow]

third stage of regular dd
find out there's a nemesis by minehead dropping on it

win

went through with no deaths too which was nice

[wraith shard]

we did 3 driller DD for the memes

its only haz 3 so decided to fuck around

[kindred coyote]

wheres the second mini mule for the first stage regular dd :p

i found the one in the first room but cant find the second and i dont wanna run around searching for it

[inner rover]

the room where you refuel

[kindred coyote]

nah thats the first one but just found the second one

its in a rlly high up spot in the heartstone room

wacky

[devout drift]

quad gunner is a meme and also surprisingly effective

but quad driller? now THAT'S funny

[inner rover]

then theres quad engi

[devout drift]

bring the funny overclock

[hazy lily]

Manhattan Project moment

[white yarrow]

is there on site refining on this week's regular deep dive?

[woeful niche]

#deep-dive-discussion pinned msgs

[storm tulip]

i ran the whole tunnel twice thinking i missed it somewhere lol

[kindred coyote]

oof

[river citrus]

goofy aah 2nd level of todays deep dive

Industrial sabotage + 1 dread + swarmageddon 💀

[daring terrace]

anyone down for deep dive?

[white yarrow]

tnx

[buoyant wedge]

I had that happen too, absolutely hilarious

[hardy kiln]

friendly reminder to get into steam and vote DRG to Labor of Love category
https://store.steampowered.com/steamawards/#LaborOfLove

[woeful elm]

Quad driller + industrial sabotage = mass destruction

[candid dagger]

somewhat new to the game, i have pretty much all the upgrades for scout. this deep dive is REALLY HARD. do i just need more experience??? like what do i do to make the deep dives not hard. do i just suck?

[storm tulip]

what specifically are you struggling with or failing to do?

[humble sage]

||I'm so fucking sick of Industrial Sabotage, wtf||

[candid dagger]

idk, we all just die

[woeful niche]

what part of the edd

[knotty zealot]

swarmers? turrets? whats causing the we all die

[humble sage]

there is certainly some concrete suggestions but definitely experience helps a ton

just do haz4s and haz5s over and over and soon you'll get to the point where things make you die less

[brisk pagoda]

use ice

[coral pond]

[candid dagger]

being damaged to death, just by everything

especially bosses and nemesis

[candid dagger]

okay, thanks

[knotty zealot]

Ah, yeah

[knotty zealot]

Nem kinda just has to be handled far as you can. Bosses like dreads just keep moving and spin circles around em. Caretaker just kinda kill stuff that spawns near you asap before you shoot big guy. Have resups set up ahead of time and take note of any cover terrain. if ya got none use the resups as temp cover.

[humble sage]

I think one cause of death with nemesis is "I'll just get a bit closer to deal a buttload of damage!" and then you insta-die because he has an unfun mechanic where if you're within like 30 feet he just grabs you and you are dead. You really have to stay out of its range.

[candid dagger]

we did all that, but we just got totally damaged to death

[knotty zealot]

caretaker deaths are almost always just "oops tentacles and bots lived too long and got you flanked on shots"

[humble sage]

I have 300 hours and caretaker still murders me a lot, so don't feel too bad...

[knotty zealot]

not necessarily required, but heat options are nice little cheats against stuff like nem if you can lay down persistent heat pools like sticky flame or incin grenades

hard damage does the job just as well though

[candid dagger]

its not just that, its just all bosses and all things that are stronger than normal enemies do so much damage

[knotty zealot]

ah, yeah

[candid dagger]

like we fought a dreadnaught and it moves faster than me, i wasnt a mobile dwarf and it would run over and absolutely stomp me

[knotty zealot]

dreadnaughts have a really good mobility weakness, they're garbage at turning and they cant really shoot you with fireballs while you're circling behind

stuff like base dread you just have to be careful about watching for his stomp animation

[candid dagger]

so is it all just sort of case by case tips that i need to learn?

[knotty zealot]

since that comes out pretty quick

ye, more or less

[candid dagger]

okay i see, thanks

[knotty zealot]

they each have different problem points

like all that goes out the window with twins dreads, thats almost entirely "eyes on arbalest"

lacerator's a joke but arba will surprise chunk you if you're not watching.

nem is just keep distance and safely clear out any bugs in proximity while working to a better area to fight it

if you HAVE that nice safe distance without anything pressing then you just shoot it and never approach

the difference between a nem on spawn and a nem in a main room is pretty big because of that

nem on spawn can be the shittiest

often just nowhere to retreat

[candid dagger]

okay i see, thanks!

[pliant fulcrum]

I'm pretty much still brand new when it comes to DRG but, in an attempt to get back into the swing of things since I haven't played in months, I ended up taking on a caretaker mission with sludge driller and found that the charged shot helped a lot against the vents while Bosco dealt with the tentacles
That's about all I can say about it unfortunately

[jolly jay]

homegirl wrote her whole life story

[unkempt saffron]

If youre willing to put in the effort drilling all the way to the top of the ct will enable you to drop c4s on its vents making quick work of the ct during the vent phase

[random rampart]

not related to deep dives, but reminder taken

[jagged plaza]

Anyone else have Deep Dives blanked out despite being on a promoted character? I've done deep dives before and all my characters are at least bronze 2.

[wraith kraken]

finished my first EDD lets go

[humble sage]

Nice!!

[vital vortex]

@jagged plaza Do you mean when you're at your terminal, both Deep Dives are unavailable to you? Or are you talking about the 'join a group' page? It's my understanding that DDs will grey out if they have already started, regardless of how many players it has in it. Even if a person leaves the group new players can't join. This is just what I've read though; I've never joined a public group. So take it with a grain of salt. Or Nitra... 😄

[shrewd kettle]

hello

i was lead here buy a torrot reader and my inuwishin

[jagged plaza]

Ooh! Didn't realize, thanks!

[halcyon latch]

Are the hazards like swarmaggedon randomized per run or are they always the same for each week?

[old widget]

All aspects of the deep dives, including hazards, are randomly generated again for each week

[humble sage]

But within the week it's exactly the same

So if you or anyone else does the run, it's the same exact map, same mobs, warnings, and spawn patterns etc. (Actually I'm not sure on the spawn patterns. I know parts of those are kept the same, but I think some aspects of it are different)

[halcyon latch]

Ok I just wasn’t sure about the warnings

I knew everything else was the same

[thorny geyser]

Elite Deep Dive this week can be really tricky, warning mutators are all tricky and I feel like moving at moderate pace throughout caves is very beneficial. Nemesis should be met at range, so don't be afraid to fall back to a place with better lines of fire. Caretaker can overwhelm a team if it doesn't take care of turrets, appendages and roaming bots. Kill all smaller machines in sight, take cover when necessary and then start taking potshots at the weak points. Also, drop down resupply pods in advance so you don't have to wait precious seconds to get re-armed.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/5111054231571438246/C6B232A7F4F2FF707EFFFCACA395C008C669F0ED/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

I gave ground when absolutely necessary and then just ground back on swarms.

Also our scoot crashed, big sad.

[candid dagger]

i meant regular deep dive, but that advice is still helpful thx

[thorny geyser]

For regular DD and playing scoot, I recommend steady hand with GK2 and boomstick to deal with swarmers.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[coral pond]

Pick better deep dives then

[gentle plover]

The 3rd stage of this week EDD on PlayStation is bonkers

[humble sage]

ity's bonker's on PC too! Not sure if it's the same or not

[gentle plover]

Caretaker with Low Oxygen

[humble sage]

oh then yeah it's the same

[coral pond]

pc and consoles should be synced as of season 3, or shortly before season 3 i forget the exact timing

[lime meteor]

caretaker with low oxygen really doesn't change much

[rocky quarry]

Yeah it's about the same either way.

O2 doesn't really make the caretaker fight too different

Since you're normally running around in circles from resupply anyway

[ashen cloud]

what do i do with with company credits?

great game btw

[crystal peak]

Question

Why cant I join some deep dives? They have free slots and yet the server is greyed out

[last badge]

.

[humble sage]

They're in progress. You cannot join in progress DDS

Unlike normal missions

[humble sage]

You can ask in #drg-chat !

[ashen cloud]

thanks

[supple field]

Good crispr/epc builds for haz5/deep dives?

[lime meteor]

just run tcf on epc and sticky flame build for flame

[tidal verge]

hey where the fuck is the second mini mule in the first stage of the normal deep dive?

oh nevermind

[valid hemlock]

are deep dives like the equivalent to d2 raids?

[trail pivot]

It's more like hitting the strike playlist three times in a row.

Only you can't leave

And then the elite dd is more like a public Event that turns into a melt face nightfall

[tidal verge]

CHRIST

that immediate nemesis on stage 3

[ornate nebula]

straight up swindled the mfer https://outplayed.tv/media/D05jY4

coolest thing ive done in all my 600 hours of playtime

[lime meteor]

Killing a lone nemesis was your coolest thing in 600 hours?

[ornate nebula]

climbing that fucking wall with it biting at my heals was the coolest thing ive done X3

immaculate parkour technique

[lime meteor]

suit urself ig

[tidal verge]

in my run of it it just got killed by the minehead wkoriurgh

[ornate nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466

well it wasnt too annoying anyways

i just cornered myself like an idiot

[swift steppe]

gotta love disconnecting on the 3rd stage of the deep dive

[royal sandal]

are deep dive layouts identical for everyone?

when it comes down to cave gen and hackerbot drops and the like?

[swift steppe]

yep

[royal sandal]

cheers bud

[swift steppe]

cave gen is random every week, but if you fail the deep dive its still gonna be the same so you can learn what you did wrong

[royal sandal]

gotcha, thanks a bunch

[swift steppe]

np

[dull remnant]

best duo combo for this weeks EDD?

[dusky mauve]

Ours got killed by the platform dropping on it

Was hilarious to watch

[hazy lily]

Engi/Scout or gunner/scout maybe? Prob not driller bc industrial sabo

[nocturne oxide]

does deep dive give as much money as the equivilant hazard level?

[coral pond]

Crspr driller takes care of patrol bots and other rival enemies very easily, along with c4 on caretaker's vents being an extremely efficient tactic on it

[royal sandal]

Im pretty sure its a lot more if you get through it all

[limpid pond]

Where the hell did this "Driller is bad on Sabo" myth start from? Did everyone just forget about Satchel vent strats?

[royal sandal]

dont quote me tho, I dont do a lot of deep dives

[royal sandal]

only have 4 kabooms tho

good with a team, despite being kinda ammo hungry

problem is that a lot of drillers primaries arent the best on robots

fire can instantly kill if you get full burn but its hard to deal with snipers and it takes tons of burn to make it explode just from the status effect alone

Ice isnt too useful as I dont think robots freeze or if they do its very hard

[limpid pond]

Still faster and more reliable than shooting the weakpoint

And also Rival Tech is weak to Corrosive

[royal sandal]

thats true but im not sure if it works on the caretaker

[radiant halo]

is the caretaker in the beastiary?

[royal sandal]

I think so but on the wiki it says it isnt weak to corrosive

[limpid pond]

Impact Axe one shots Appendages, max damage Satchel chunks the vents, and you can Explosive Reload Subata the eyes

[royal sandal]

does satchel hit all of the vents simultaneously?

[limpid pond]

When thrown on the top and middle, yes

I think there's a link between the "Driller is bad on Sabo" and "Industrial Sabotage is unfairly hard" statements that I'm constantly seeing in this channel lol

[royal sandal]

Industrial sabo can be a bit tricky

[royal sandal]

unless you've got an engie to help you out with platforms then throwing from the top can prove to be quite a challenge

or gunner ziplines

[limpid pond]

Yeah, just have the Engi build a platform bridge

[royal sandal]

yeah but if you're solo or just have a scout then the bottom can be hazardous due to the electrical shocks

driller more often than not has to be a bit closer in order to get some beefy damage so it can be quite risky on IS missions

[coral pond]

IS really isn't that hard. It's just time consuming and annoying to do constantly. At least satchel strats make it a bit less so

[limpid pond]

Unless there's objectives that really benefit from Scout like a crazy hard Point Extraction, any time there's an Industrial Sabotage, go Driller + Engineer. If the objectives allow it, CRSPR disposes Rival Tech the quickest, but if not, they're also weak to Sludge Pump. Drills guarantee you can defend the Hacking Pods easily. And max damage Satchel always one-shots Caretaker's vents on 2P. Incendiary Hyper Propellant Engi instantly kills any non-Nemesis bots. His sentry guns and Repellant Additive platforms guarantee you can defend the Hacking Pods easily, he can make a bridge to the top of the Caretaker to let Driller Satchel it quickly and safely, and he can easily clean up Shredders and Snipers that Driller may struggle with.

[royal sandal]

engie/gunner is also pretty nice

would you recommend scout on IS?

[limpid pond]

For 2P? No, he doesn't have the firepower to do a whole lot vs the Caretaker. For player counts above that? Yeah, lighting and quick mineral gathering is still good.

[royal sandal]

yeah fair enough

I've been trying to think of ways that his grappling gun could take advantage of the mission but it seems traversal tools like gunners zipline or engies bridges prove to be far more useful

[limpid pond]

I'd say ziplines are the absolute least preferred method of getting on top of Caretaker, they're slow and you risk getting shot off

Ziplines in general are just the least preferred movement option tbh

Other than zipline camping, moving heavy objects, and Tritilyte Deposits, pretty much any time you want to zip somewhere, Driller or Engi's already gotten there faster and you wasted a zipline

I'm not saying they need to go supersonic or Gunner's bad, but giving them a tiny speed buff with mods makes them feel way more practical

[royal sandal]

yeah whilst gunners lines can be useful they are my least favourite mode of transportation

that being said there have been tons of moments when I've said to myself "man I wish I had ziplines" whilst playing engie or driller

[woeful niche]

i have not

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[royal sandal]

get the hell outta here'

shameless

[vestal panther]

He has been muted, thanks

[royal sandal]

good man

[thorny geyser]

Driller is excellent in Industrial Sabotage, I have no idea what people are talking about.

Sure, driller is slightly shafted if he uses cryo cannon but that can be compensated with good use of throwables, sidearm, ice spear OC and satchel charges.

[hazy lily]

Oh driller satchels oneshot on 2p? TIL, I was assuming that it was like 4p where you need to spend two satchels for the vents

Also newer drillers are normally pretty poor at dealing with sabo due to not knowing all these things, so make sure you/your driller knows what to take/do

[boreal trail]

So how long does Deep Dive last, normal one I mean?
Going to start a run today.

[knotty zealot]

somewhere between lil under a half hour to 40 minutes

[severe tusk]

Probably longer than that for this week's DD if you're new, since there are Escort and Industrial Sabotage missions in it.

[burnt sandal]

somewhere between 30min and one hour

depending on difficulty and skill

[boreal trail]

Already done it and can confirm.

[gusty meteor]

Damage resistance to anything that goes near them for a few seconds

[scenic zealot]

whats this week's elite deep dive?

[burnt sandal]

check the pinned message

[thorny geyser]

I recommend picking autocannon and CRSPR for this week's EDD.

Also, I feel like prepping the terrain with resupply in cover favors the team immensely.

Driller making a few trenches around the caretaker helps from all the fire from sniper turrets, patrol bots and appendages

[severe tusk]

Burning Hell Minigun would be good too for Gunner vs. Swarmageddon and Industrial Sabotage.

[thorny geyser]

true

Whatever keeps those swarmers from gnawing at your feet.

[severe tusk]

I spent like 10 minutes as the last dwarf standing on stage 2 as Scout fighting a Nemesis and constant waves of swarmers and other bugs. Fortunately I was running Impact Deflection DRAK and eventually had a window to revive a teammate, and then we stabilized.

[tiny pawn]

Have a constant crashing problem where by game freezes and crashes if anyone has the same problem how would u fix it?

[burnt sandal]

#bug-discussion FAQ in the pinned message for troubleshooting

[weary iron]

Wats deep dive

[random rampart]

a set of 3 back-to-back missions where you carry nitra and gold between stages. it refreshes once a week and each deep dive type gives a reward per stage only obtainable once per week

[weary iron]

Mhmmmm

Sounds ez

[supple field]

is 21121 with EM Refire a decent build for stubby for dds/haz5? Is refire a good OC in general?

[weary iron]

Yes

[limpid pond]

That's kinda mix and match-y without really doing anything well. I'd recommend either 1x211/3x211 so you can have great direct damage, or 2x222 so you can have decent AoE + decent single target.

[supple field]

much appreciated

[tiny pawn]

thx

[drowsy holly]

have you considered they are the only way to get out of the pod at the end and are thus the best

[quick umbra]

Correct me if I'm wrong but is this the second EDD low oxygen industrial sabotage in a row?

[dusty hollow]

w

[wraith shard]

first it was 2 PE low O2 now its 2 sabo low O2

[unkempt saffron]

Yep, low o2 has been a consistent edd fixture for about a month now

Although the sabo low o2 for this weeks edd is fairly manageable

[wraith shard]

it was alot better than I expected

[unkempt saffron]

Its still possible for shit to go tits up in stage 3 if one isnt careful, or if you have a griefer in my case

[wraith shard]

low o2 isn't hard in most mission types it's just annoying and unfun

[unkempt saffron]

It really slows down the game a lot, and relying on molly to get to you in time is frustrating

[quick umbra]

Even better when you have everyone split up trying to call Molly at the same time

[worldly condor]

goddamn this EDD was rough

took an hour and a half solo

[hollow jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1053779553555845270/1057327865210871888/image.png

EDD was something...

[humble sage]

y;eah

it took us like 1:20 and we still lost the 3rd mission

[shrewd kettle]

#deep-dive-discussion hi

[trim falcon]

did the EDD with a random squad of two gunners and a scout

stage 2's black box was genuinely the most stressful experience

low oxygen industrial sabo will always be hard but me and the other gunner were using that one heat overclock for the minigun

and i brought hellfire

very fun EDD if you really wanna see every surface covered in bug

[humble sage]

yeah! we did it 3 times in a row, each time spawning I think 2 dets and a buttload of other mobs, and wiping 😂

[trim falcon]

seems like a very aoe and fire favored EDD

[cobalt dock]

if you game crashses during a deep dive can you join back?

[severe tusk]

If you weren't the host, yeah. With Steam you can go to View-->Players then look at the profiles of the last people you played with and if not all of them have their profiles set to private you can click on the "join game" button and get back in. I have heard people say that it doesn't work if your group finished the stage you dropped from and are on a new one though, but that's just what I have heard.

[stuck pine]

if a 3 lenght PE isnt in rotation, how do i farm machine events?

[random rampart]

wrong chat, but you can try other length 3 missions

[stuck pine]

mb sorry

[torn verge]

length 3 refining missions
same kind of open map

[trail pivot]

Getting a length 3 osr is hard. The length 2 ones are easy to to search at least.

[crisp eagle]

link mod

[hollow jay]

Search googly and it should show up

[median sequoia]

Anyone know what this weeks EDD mutations are?

[spiral depot]

pin

[median sequoia]

anyone looking to join an EDD

[night talon]

Are edd mutations random? Like some week it's easier than others?

I've been trying to pop that trophy for completion and data rack is just not a fun objective

[coral pond]

they are randomly selected for the week, then stay the same all that week

[night talon]

Ah, so it can roll into more manageable mutations/objectives on every reset

[coral pond]

it can, yeah

[copper cedar]

That EDD was quite rough

[drowsy knot]

im really struggling with the elite deep dive, does anyone have a scout setup that might help?

[alpine flume]

https://karl.gg/preview/19305#/ i use this sometimes helps with wave clear, bring ifg if there are dreds the bom stack dmg well on on solo

[drowsy knot]

tysm, but i think i needa get the ocs first lol

but im not sure how to farm em

[remote dragon]

lez go just got done with EDD stage 1

[drowsy knot]

Nice bro, i cant get past 3

Its so hard

[remote dragon]

im getting carried soo

got past 2

welp we died stage 3

[tulip trail]

is this week's EDD stage 3 harder than lasts stage2?

cuz it took me like 6 tries last week to get through nd2 stage

and I ain't got no time to do it this many times this week

[remote dragon]

I got ai stability engine from stage 2 EDD

[swift steppe]

spoopy

[dusky mauve]

I always play ai stability engine and gas recycling but gk2 with no overclocks + shotgun or xbow is fine

I wouldnt play smgs without ocs

People struggle with IS more than it is actually difficult, if you have 3-4+ resupplies and you focus on killing bots and turrets and stick to the sides of killed arms while not outraging all others you're super fine

This weeks layout also has a very good caretaker arena with a lot of natural cover

Driller c4s top either with a tunnel (safer) or with a zipline

Gunner shields the eye phase so whoever brought weakspot/burst single target can safely get you out of that phase and/or bot/turret spawns so you can quickly get rid of them

Scout should be the one primarily killing bots and turrets and do so asap

Engi can stack pancakes for extra cover ( do this before the fight) other than that they're just high damage on the caretaker if their load out is made for Single target or burst damage

The public group I went in with had gunner with neurotoxin and lead spray driller with sludge pump engi with shotgun + cutter and scout with m1k and shotgun

As long as you play around cover resupply to heal up and focus adds the fight is still not that big a deal even with the group comp were only the scout had smth that wasnt terrible for the caretaker itself

The times I see that fight go bad is when people refuse to resupply to heal and stay at the 10% you get from reviving and the entire party gets stuck in a revive cycle and gets overrun by another wave of bot or turret spawns or people ignore bots and turrets and you just get overrun naturaly

[tidal verge]

i kinda wanna try the elite deep dive but im still only used to hazard 3.....

fuck it.

[random rampart]

Good luck

[tidal verge]

face melter flamethrower and subata with volatile bullets is pretty strong as a combo

oh. god, wait, i just realized that stage three is low O2 sabotage

thats fucked up,

do i keep cores for stages i did complete?

[random rampart]

Yes

[tidal verge]

oh, cool

[tulip trail]

you get rewards after each stage and only once

so yes

[tidal verge]

haz 4 swarms are fucking scary 😨

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[shy thunder]

If im running lead storm OC, should i use: more dmg when spun up, faster spinup time, or longer spin duration?

[wraith shard]

faster spin up

[worthy sleet]

hey =) if i get it right, you can only get matrix cores once a week in deep dive? can i see somewhere that i already got them this week? or do i have to remember when and then wait 7 days?

[limpid pond]

Look at the Deep Dive terminal. Completed stages will be yellow, uncompleted will be black.

[worthy sleet]

aahh ok, didnt see it, thanks =)

[dapper radish]

Also sludge blast absolutely violates patrol bots

[robust saffron]

What’s the best way to arrange an EDD? I’m looking to join a group to complete the EDD. Happy with all dwarfs, 200+ hours in. My regular group is happy to DD, but not EDD. I Play on PlayStation 🙂

[dapper radish]

As in load outs?

Oh just post in lfg

[patent karma]

What would people recommend for this week's elite deep dive on ENGI solo without any notable overclocks? (I have fat boi, and well oiled machine for the stubby)

I want to give it a go, even if it doesn't work out

[drowsy knot]

I have jumbo shells for boomstick

[wraith shard]

If you die in a deep dive can you retry or is it one strike and you're out?

And by you I mean the whole team

[brave mauve]

You can retry it

And because its the same generation all week until it resets, you get to learn the cave layout

[wraith shard]

Oh it isn't a new cave system every time?

I honestly want to try EDD but I have yet to try even haz 5 so I don't think I'm ready yet

[burnt sandal]

only one way to know : trying it

it's not like you're losing anything except time

as long as you're having fun, it's all that matters

[wraith shard]

real and true

also those cores aren't gonna get themselves

I gotta do the assignment for haz 5 first

and the difficulty of the EDD varies drastically depending on cave gen and mix of mission type and modifiers

it can be super easy or super hard and everything in between

I play driller and usually go for team builds like sludge with slow for dreads and stuff

Yeah I notice haz 4 can seem crazy difficult or a walk in the park at times. It's weird

Reg DD too

[burnt sandal]

you don't need it to try the EDD

[wraith shard]

No perhaps not buy I think getting used to haz 5 before doing an EDD would be a good idea or so I just yeet it?

[burnt sandal]

It's up to you really

you can yeet it just to have a general feel on how it's gonna play out.

Or you can do it slowly and getting used to it before trying it out.

[wraith shard]

Hmmm

Ok

[burnt cloud]

Imo even if you're not sure that you can complete it, it's atleast worth a try or two cause you still get the reward for each stage completed and the first two are the good ones

[noble lantern]

my game is crashed, any way to reconnect to deep dive? and i was the host

[burnt sandal]

if you were the host, there's no way to reconnect to yourself

the game is peer-to-peer

[night talon]

C'mon good roll this week. Gotta get that edd trophy

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[drifting parrot]

geez, I only just looked at the dives this week, on account of holidays

Outrageous Delight is an apt name for that regular dive

[coarse yew]

Honest opinion, what would you like to be a weapon? And what class would you want it to be on?

[random rampart]

Wrong chat, you prolly wanna ask in #drg-chat. This chat is for deep dives

[drifting jackal]

Go for it. My team did EDD before any haz 5 and we beat the first two, and lost on the last due to bad call. It was sweet

[wraith shard]

i shall commence the yeeting

[coarse yew]

Aww crap whoops

[velvet igloo]

How deep do these dives really go?

[buoyant wedge]

three

[humble sage]

three deep

[sick bison]

Deep

[muted maple]

any gunner suggestions for the current EDD?

wait nvm

I was playing it this entire time, explains why we got destroyed at the end

[chilly iris]

I'm gonna call it, solo run just demoralizes me when the hacking pod spawns into the tunnel next door and I have to dig through while getting harassed

Also kinda rough when I went in blind with Deepcore, stage 2 wiped me out and stage 3's constant spawns ran my ammo reserves dry

if anyone's still running, recommend lots of CC. For gunner I'd personally go Big Bertha Autocannon even if stage 3 Caretaker will be hell

[restive vessel]

how do i get new weapons

[chilly iris]

level up->assignment board

[night talon]

Caretaker just bums me out. Even on regular runs.

[chilly iris]

I'm OK with Caretaker but man, the hacking pod spawning across the cave behind walls was too much

[zenith ember]

Greenbeard here, does edd give another set of rewards or is it shared with regular dd?

[chilly iris]

too many oppressors, menace

Different set

so Deep Dive+EDD you get total 6 cores

[zenith ember]

Ooo ok

Damn, maybe not possible with only 3 hrs haha

[chilly iris]

it's about 1 hour 30 minutes per attempt

You could speed run stage 1 since all the morkite is in the final area but it's hellish

stage 2 and 3 will grind you to a halt depending on how unlucky you are. My second attempt with ID Plasma Stage 2 dumped an entire planet worth of swarmers on me while I was digging the first dirt hole

[cedar swan]

just completed this week's with randos. that stage 3 w/ low O2 can get fucked.

[chilly iris]

Congrats

I can't play with randos since I'm in asia and they play very.. strangely

Last EDD I had a Driller that would shoot people with the microwave gun

[cedar swan]

probably had macro lense for wide angle

[wraith shard]

real ones do the EDD regardless of good roll or not

[chilly iris]

idk if it has a mod that widens that shot by so much but just standing near him was pain

[cedar swan]

that's drillers in general lmao

[chilly iris]

i'd revive him and he'd shoot and I'd lose my shields lmao

[wraith shard]

easy solution, host the EDD, then kick any throwers

the game scales to the number of players so unless you lose your hard carry no big deal

[chilly iris]

it's cool., like I meet one or 2 insane Drillers every 7 games or so

the issue is people craCK hard during EDD and it snowballs unless you play a few games with them beforehand

and can confirm they got it

[wraith shard]

crack?

[chilly iris]

crack under pressure

[wraith shard]

play with better players 🧠

[chilly iris]

that's why i play solo

🧠 ⚡

[wraith shard]

game is much more fun once you have a friend group to play with

[chilly iris]

yea I'm teaching my buddy to play but he do be getting cave leeches and exploders all day

[wraith shard]

happens to everyone

[chilly iris]

nothing teaches caution like a few hundred cave leech grabs

[wraith shard]

cave leeches only spawn in the ceilings I don't look at

[chilly iris]

shiny nitra? but beware! there's a leech

[zenith ember]

got the clear thanks to 2 vets \o/

cant say i did much aside from flaring tho

[chilly iris]

Nice

Flares are fine though if you're lost in a firefight and have no clue, toss an IFG

[zenith ember]

Ifg is the go to? I usually run cryo or pheromones

[chilly iris]

I like Pheromones over Cryo but IFG over the 2 because you get 6 and the value is immense

I usually use it for reviving other dwarfs because at least incoming glyphs will be slowed down

on top of racking lots of value on an area where blowthrough rounds and other weapons from the team start to shine

[zenith ember]

ill give it a try again then, sounds good

[chilly iris]

According to wiki "After a brief delay it will emit an "inhibitor field" which will slow down an enemy by 75% (0.25x Movement Speed) and increase their damage taken by 30%. "

and don't be afraid to use them liberally, you get 3 back on each resupply which is huge

[wraith shard]

boomerang supremacy

[zenith ember]

oh i didnt know it increases damage dealt, that changes everything

[chilly iris]

give me more rangs...

Give throwables Overclocks

Giant VSS where we at

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[sly kettle]

Soon™

Hopefully everyone had a nice Christmas.

Kinda weird how the year is almost over.

Where did it go?

[sly kettle]

Oh well. Good luck, everyone.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[lost jungle]

💀

[gusty grotto]

EDD stage 1 - escort + 2 eggs + lethal enemies

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Deadly End
Stage 1: 200 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators
Stage 2: Recover Data Rack + Dreadnought Twins | Volatile Guts Shield Disruption
Stage 3: Refine Liquid Morkite + Dreadnought Twins | Mactera Plague

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Brutal Wilderness
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + 1 Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + 2 Eggs | No Mutators

[lost jungle]

they havent gotten to stage 2 yet

🗿

im calling it now theres another low o2 sabo

[sly kettle]

I think you misspelled Low Oxygen Point Extraction.

[lost jungle]

low o2 for the third week in a row

💀💀💀💀💀

[hollow citrus]

sabo time

I love sabotage I do

[fossil tulip]

Stage 2 NDD: Data Rack + Dread with Shield Disruption + Volatile Guts

[quiet mortar]

I already got it lol, thanks tho

[fossil tulip]

I can't use my emotes 😭

[lost jungle]

we wont see anothwr update for about 20 minutes

[wraith shard]

another sabotage?

oh wait, that's the regular deep dive

[gusty grotto]

EDD 2nd stage - collect 6 eggs + black box + leech cluster

[fossil tulip]

Stage 3 NDD: Refinery + Twins with Mactera Plague

[woeful patrol]

Another Twins egg ?

[sly kettle]

Double the fun, twice over.

[gusty grotto]

EDD stage 3 - kill 2 dreadnaughts + collect 2 eggs (No modifiers)

[gusty grotto]

twins + classic

for EDD stage 3

[oblique glen]

Lots of twins this week

[hollow citrus]

shield disruption sabo

what will these wacky devs think of next

[gusty grotto]

i wouldnt wish that on my worst enemy

[wraith shard]

easiest EDD of my life

"my life" meaning the past 9 weeks

[hazy lily]

How's the DDs this week?

They look easier than the last couple of weeks

[wraith shard]

much easier

[storm tulip]

shield disruption scares me

[serene stratus]

You should be able to join a DD if you get DC'd, right?

[wraith shard]

it's only 3.5 you'll be fine

[wraith shard]

yeah u can rejoin one you dc'd from

[serene stratus]

Yeah so we just got the lobby bug then, ugh

[wraith kraken]

Pain

[night talon]

Why would I ask for good roll if I didn't attempt edd? Lol

[wraith shard]

you completely misunderstood what I said

[coral pond]

Sabo again

[wraith shard]

dw it's only 3.5

https://imgur.com/SVSyKCS ballin, definitely could have done that alot faster tho

[coral pond]

Sabos aren't too difficult to me, it's just unnecessarily time consuming and I'm tired of doing like 4 a week already

[wraith shard]

last week had too many sabos agreed

[coral pond]

Since s3 came out, I'm pretty sure there's only been 1 week where a sabo wasn't in the dd or edd. Not even considering weekly core hunt or prio assignments

[wraith shard]

I only got the game at the start of s3 but I can't remember the contents of previous DD's, except that the EDD had low O2 4 weeks in a row

[hollow citrus]

both DD and EDD this week were very easy

or maybe I had a good team

[serene stratus]

EDD was a cakewalk for us

Tho shoutout to the bois we absolutely nailed that twins fight

[remote dragon]

wait did DD and EDD reset already

[hollow citrus]

yea having good team mates makes a huge diff

[buoyant wedge]

lots of twins this week

[bitter mortar]

guys can we make a petition to be able to pet molly (joke)

[elfin rose]

If this is what it takes to stop her from teamkilling all the time i am willing to do pet her

[bitter mortar]

lol

shes underrated

[wraith shard]

this week's EDD was a nice break from the past few

[grave narwhal]

Full EDD run (downless): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuZFr9Oc5BE

[unkempt saffron]

Edd lookin a little too easy

[fallen sail]

qq

[hollow citrus]

no sabo = generally easier

[steel python]

Just finished the DD with approximately 850 nitra total

We're rich

[vagrant heron]

This might be my first EDD, looks manageable.

But that DD looks broken af and I don't wanna.

[trail pivot]

It was easy

As long as your driller has a brain

But watch that bulk near the hack pod

He showed up right behind the pod

There isn't a good spot to blow it up

[steel python]

DD has a lot of bulk spawns in stage 1 & 2

Surprisingly was missing in stage 3

[trail pivot]

Unless you went long way with the nodes

Bring the sludge pump

[steel python]

You'd think it's best to bring face melter for sabo, but then stage 3 comes with the mactera plague

Also both dreadnoughts are the twins so sludge is very nice

[vagrant heron]

Well I'll have to see how it goes!

[trail pivot]

There are plenty of spots for tunnels

Should be able to kite very well

Just make sure to leave a stair well in that pit if engi doesn't cover it stage 3

[sly vapor]

Edd is easy but all the 3 rooms in stage 3 suck ass so you might wanna fight in the spawn

[robust saffron]

Any other EDD tips for this week? I’m starting it in a couple of hours 🙂

[distant sail]

are EDD's set to haz 5 difficulty? or haz 4? Ive only just started to do them weekly and am curious.

[coral pond]

Stage 1 is 4.5, 2 is 5, 3 is 5.5

[night talon]

This edd has great rolls! Got my trophy with bunch of pugs.

[bitter mortar]

im pretty new to deep dives, i've made 3, AND I KEPT GETTING THE F-ING MINI MULE DRILLDOZER COMBO (ik, DD-s are the same for all players)

[serene stratus]

Both deep dives were rly easy this week

[inland crag]

I'm new. How do I find people to deep Dive with?

[vagrant heron]

You could join someone else's DD from the terminal. Or post in #lfg-whateverplatformyoureusing

[inland crag]

Thank You

[woeful elm]

i have an open EDD on Xbox/Xbox PC if anyone would like to join

[frail charm]

wait, caretaker+dreads?
doesn't caretaker's death have a giant kill-all-enemies explosion like some events? can you speedrun dreads by spawning them both right before you kill it?

[crystal yarrow]

i love drg

[thick willow]

oh hey I got the overclock I wanted

nice

[tidal verge]

christ, this

this second stage is a hell of an escalation

oh yeah mine some morkite, repair some mules :)

fuck you fight two bosses with shield disruption

[weary narwhal]

ujgm hachtually 🤓🤓 its dreadnought TWINS making it 3 bosses

[honest slate]

What? Is that true???

[tidal verge]

christ, stage 3's the twins too

lotta fuckin dreadnoughts this deep dive

[tidal verge]

hey

[weary narwhal]

i hate twins so much im tempted to just skip it

[tidal verge]

can anyone tell me where the damn brood nexus is in stage 3

[weary narwhal]

Wha

[tidal verge]

stage 3 of the salt pits one has a brood nexus somewhere and i cant find it

and im getting sick of these glyphid spawn

[wraith kraken]

There is a brood?