deep-dive-discussion

[trail pivot]

First stage didn't even really need drilling for me

The pumps were all ground level

[ivory marten]

Yeh

[trail pivot]

But second stage there were a few dead ends and a couple places you need tunnel.

There is a ton of nitra upstairs first stage and downstairs with lootbugs.

We didn't even mine it all

[frank viper]

Zipline, platforms, grapple, drill

[quick umbra]

Stage two in EDD is killin' me 😭

[azure lance]

Grouped up with a bunch of chads, even that way, stage 2 and end of stage 3 was a chaos

But chaos = fun

[wraith kraken]

When driller doesn't bunker in the EDD

No need to insult me jeez

[worldly turtle]

Who were you talking to then

[coarse dew]

For the regular deep dive is management making a godam omelet?

[wraith kraken]

Yes

A lot of omelette

[junior plover]

Even EDD has two Egg stages T^T

they were ok tho
stage 3 was nice and open

[coarse dew]

Why is stage 2 of the edd literal hell

what the fuck is this drop pod location

[junior plover]

Mission Control has a bug in their GPS

[trail pivot]

Where is it? I'll pre drill it

[loud current]

stage 2 drop pod was a meme

I just mercykilled my friend to finish it

[coarse dew]

Also there are like 6 cave leeches in stage 2

also is it me or is there just no nitra also?

[loud current]

Didn't feel any lack of nitra, did you mine out stage 1?

[coarse dew]

then again prob was because stage 2 kicked our ass

[glossy walrus]

stage2 had plenty of nitra for us, it was stage1 that felt stingy

was hidden all over the place up high on walls, mixed in with egg organic masses, etc

but low o2 in general slows gameplay down, and PE is the one mission type you don't want to do slow esp on haz5, so yeah was rough

we felt like we had so little nitra in 1 that we squeaked by without calling a resup as our last 2 eggs were swarm eggs, so we double pulled then hoofed it to the drop pod, but it meant going into stage2 we needed to get a resup down fast, so didn't have time to pick a good spot for an oxygen depot

would recommend one in the big area down below and the big area up top, as both have a lot of things and both are a bit of a hike from the station

[coarse dew]

Ive done like 4 edds

Ive not once seen every single person make it to the pod on stage 2

[wraith shard]

Stage 2 pod is very funni

[wraith shard]

there was way more than enough nitra in the EDD

and then there's the DD

we had 700 in stock at one point

[mystic summit]

Yea the bf and I were like wtf theres so much nitra

We just started wasting ammos xD

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/936495649669677089/1048079240618315798/20221201193035_1.jpg?width=1172&height=660

this was a fun EDD

sad random driller left on stage 3 after 20+ downs

[white osprey]

those stats though

what weapons were you running if i may ask

[tall meadow]

for this week? I just ran my good old hurricane salvo overclock

and brt leadspray

[heady forge]

hey what's the best build for Flamethrower that specializes in direct damage/range/burn

[mortal geode]

time to check out this week's dives

holy heck

[tall meadow]

could ask there folks at #drg-chat instead, I regularly run CFV overclock with my crspr for standard

[heady forge]

ah ok ty

[wraith shard]

https://imgur.com/85Rc32r rly easy EDD

she had turret EM discharge which absolutely farmed the swarmers

[raven niche]

good lord second stage on the edd

[wraith shard]

just play scout 🧠

[molten ridge]

is there a way to get molly to sit her arse down in a specific spot instead of chasing me in a solo mission? it's making this haunted cave a joke.

[wraith kraken]

I dont think so

[uneven mountain]

Not in the base game, but there are a couple of Approved mod options:
https://drg.old.mod.io/season-2-fix-molly-respects-boundaries
https://drg.old.mod.io/season-2-fix-obedient-molly

[molten ridge]

ah cheers. will take a look.

[idle bay]

man stage 2 EDD is hell. couldn't get past it with the team I was running

so much chip damage and low o2 meant we couldn't speedrun it

[wraith kraken]

No molly for oxygen

[wraith shard]

i recommend doing engie scout duo for the EDD

[idle bay]

oooo that's a good idea

sadly though I think the main thing is my group weren't experienced enough. I love em, but we kept getting held up having to rez each other

DD I can usually mess around and carry, but EDD everybody really needs to be on the ball

[wraith shard]

very true, you actually have to try in EDD's whereas regular DD you can get away with whatever

if your engie has turret discharge for stubby even better, makes stage 3 swarms MUCH easier

[wraith shard]

First Edd im going to try solo

with Chem rounds Lok-1 And inferno breachcutter

[wraith shard]

good luck

@wraith shard are you aware of the stage 2 extraction?

Yes i am

And i fuckin fear that

nah you'll be fine

:3

I've Heard that the drop pod Is funky

[lost jungle]

low O2 on point extract

[wraith shard]

Yes

[wraith kraken]

Because the no oxygen is stage 2 I cant just spam resupplies for air

[wraith shard]

Scout is probably the way to go

For solo

[wraith kraken]

Bosco would be helpful

[wraith shard]

But like, unless you’re trying to challenge yourself, there’s no reason to solo over duo

[wraith kraken]

I always wait for a full team

[wraith shard]

I only do EDD’s with my friends. Don’t really trust randos

[wraith kraken]

Understandable

[wraith shard]

I might go back and help randos do it. But for first completion I want my cores and don’t want people fucking up c:

[wraith kraken]

Almost level 100 and still didnt do a full EDD

[wraith shard]

;w;

it's so fun tho

[tall meadow]

It’s alright

Take your time

But if you do need help and if you’re NA, just let me know

I do extra EDD runs especially when it’s fun and an actual one that has a challenge

[past drum]

literally just let the scout get the ones on top and you will be fine

Idk who you are plying with to not ever complete an edd

randoms are good enough to make it through 90% of the time

[thorn jewel]

I'd love to do an EDD for someone who's never done it

if that person is still around

[past drum]

i always get a bronze 1 promo in my dives

i guess they are common

oh i dont think thats what you meant Lol

[thorn jewel]

nah, meant for that person who's never done a full one

[grave narwhal]

All the major fights from this week's EDD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3VLjLstH1g

[wraith shard]

Finally done deep dive

Not bad

[gusty grotto]

this elite deep dive was hard

[wraith shard]

Is the elite deep dive just Elite Threat in regular missions?

[sly vapor]

no, it's a series of 3 missions in haz 4.5, haz 5, haz 5.5

[wraith shard]

Oh ik it was 3 missions back to back

But thank you 👍🏻

[south oak]

this week Elite's is hard.

Stage 2.

there's a small cave on the side you can shortcut to (and preferably for Gunner to shoot a zip down there too since there's one aquarg down the side cave)

makes you going for a loop (then call a resupply) cuz you're out of O2 at that point

a small shortcut of 10m dig straight to the minehead

everything else is a breeze

got some leeches here and there.

[hearty mesa]

is it possible to rejoin deep dive after i disconnected?

[south oak]

yes

[hearty mesa]

I seem to be stuck in loading at 0%

[south oak]

if your game crashed

[hearty mesa]

thanks

[south oak]

But

I recommend skipping the side cave

just 2 nitra veins with a leech guarding the last vein

you still got a brood nexus to deal with

almost enough nitra for a resupply there

78-79 ish

still, worth getting the aquarg down there since it's a short walk to the minehead after taking the zip back up

Also

Don't try to save nitra on stage 2

My team ended stage 2 with 70 nitra at the end

you got a lot of ground to cover

One for the higher-up cave

the other for the long side cave, which has one aquarg down there

Stage 1 and 3 has plenty just outside the drop pod

enough for at least one resupply

If you can, ask driller to make a shortcut to the side cave end, the room should be near your right wall (looking from minehead to the higher-up cave) (watch for the leech too)

it's close, your terrain scanner can scan through the terrain to reveal the side room.

Good luck miners.

[wraith shard]

do scout and engie duo

good luck miners

[hoary rover]

The HELL is this Elite Deep Dive

[wraith shard]

just failed solo deep dive because i fell through the map and lost the aquarq

this game is one of the best games ever

but this shit

pisses me off so fucking much

[flat crest]

Ikr 😂

[proven mango]

did the elite deep dive again, zero downs this time 😌

switched out boomstickf or boltshark

much better

[flat crest]

It sure was! Only the scout got in because of that placement lol

[flat crest]

Yeah it's frustrating when something that's a game side issue, happens
Hope next try nothing wonky happens tho!

[proven mango]

i done EDD twice now and this time no funky drop pod placement

first time it was up in the ceiling

[wraith shard]

This weeks EDD is pretty fun

[harsh timber]

This week's EDD is kinda insane, probably one of the hardest i've tried. We spent way too long searching for nitra on stage 3. 1 egg left and no ammo. Died 1h3m in.

[wary grove]

What are deep dive?

[old widget]

I'd start here, come back with any follow-up questions: https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Deep_Dives

[wary grove]

Thanks a lot 😄

[glacial night]

easy dd this week

35 minutes

[raven niche]

I don't think you can waste any time on the edd stage 2

[south oak]

you can

My team wasted 12-13 mins on stage 2.

half the time of the entire dive

but don't hang around for more than 15-20 mins

you're dead by that point

[wraith shard]

Completed my first elite deep dive last night (I’ll post endgame screen later) took 3 tries, Engie wasn’t doing the trick (or my setup just wasn’t the best) so the third try I went driller. Awesome team, but that second stage was brutal. Thankfully I had an idea of where all the aquarqs were. Third stage was almost therapeutic with the low gravity

[silver garden]

what the fuck is this weeks deep dive elite

holy shit

what a mess

[wraith shard]

Tactical resupply placements are key for stage 2
But otherwise, yeah, it was a nuts stage 2. If it was anything other than refining/extraction, it wouldn’t be too bad

[silver garden]

eggs twice?

both times 6 eggs

stage 1 had a shitload of macteras

and stage 3 had a weird map

[ancient cove]

Wasn't two weeks ago like the same DD?
First and last missions eggs

[thorn jewel]

Stage 2 was not that bad, but I was special powder scout. Had both nitra veins and all 5 or 6 aquarks from the rooms higher above done shortly after first wave

They managed to find the remaining aquarks on their own with no flares thank goodness because I was preoccupied

[raven niche]

finally got the edd done

last stage wasnt so bad

[south oak]

last stage is a breeze lol

[raven niche]

wave cooker makes swarmers so easy

[south oak]

really feels a lot like a walk in the park comparing to stage 2

[raven niche]

should have taken he or toxin nades for driller instead of axes but it was fine

[stark crater]

is there acommand to show the current DD/ EDD stages?

!dd

[quaint lake]

in pin

[dusty spindle]

For deep dives, is damage or ammo carried better?

[mortal cliff]

depends on a weapon and build

[faint hemlock]

Usually is better ammo than dmg.

Is better make the total dmg of your build (ammo x dmg ) but some some build is more for CC than dmg some ammo is better.

[foggy iron]

is the elite deep dive annoying this time around

[wraith shard]

other than the 2nd stage it's fine

drop pod location is very funny

[inner rover]

yeah stage 2 just bum rush the aquarcs

and call supply pods far apart to reup on oxy

[undone umbra]

this weeks is my first EDD attempt, what do you do when there are more bugs than you have bullets? in stage 2, i keep getting all the aquarqs and morkite but dying because i dont have enough reserve ammo to kill all of the bugs after the 2nd swarm event, and i cant get a resupply because of said bugs. im playing scout which is my current theory as to why im doing bad, but im wondering if anyone has any tips for stage 2.

[clear kestrel]

have other people to help swarm clear

[hybrid cipher]

mine 400 nitra in stage 1

[undone umbra]

well yeah but the issue is that i cant make space to resupply

[clear kestrel]

are you running resupplier?

[hybrid cipher]

like the other guy said, you probably wanna run resupply. the moments to resupply as a scout are there but they only appear after kiting, resupply makes it easier to hit the timings

[undone umbra]

kk ty

[waxen nebula]

Hey

[undone umbra]

got clipped into the wall next attempt and got downed twice, ragequit

respectfully, screw that

nah ill come back tomorrow need to take a break rn though

i can do it im just really bad at the game unfortunately

[winter wadi]

Noob question, will I get loot from previous dive levels if I die on last?

[proven mango]

edd scout, 0 downs, if you need tips:
#drg-videos message

[proven mango]

no :)

[vital sluice]

Once you beat a deep dive stage you get a matrix core, and you don't lose it if you die on a future stage. You also keep the gold you deposited and get money and xp for objectives completed

[pastel carbon]

so uhh

I'm in a deep dive and going to stage 2

and I am just not loading at all

Any fix for this? What should I do?

[wraith shard]

Airplane mode all your other devices and pray

Did anyone else have the WORST drop pod on edd stage 2?

Not really, I didn’t see where it dropped the first time but the second time was decent

[wraith shard]

Yes

But dont die on last

[wraith shard]

If anyone wants help with the EDD lemme know, I’m playing scout tho :3

[river citrus]

How often do deep dives reset? Is it every wednesday, or?

[atomic prawn]

weekly yes

Thursday my time, but who knows what timezone you're in

[wraith shard]

fellow aussie 🤝

9 pm thursday for me

[river citrus]

Mid europe

[flat crest]

I think it's 1pm cet every thursday

So somewhere around there for you

[river citrus]

Alright thanks ppl

[pine mural]

2nd stage edd was spicy

[tidal drum]

Hey peeps I new just unlocked deep dives can you only do it with friends or is there a server list just not sure lol

[viscid sage]

the console with all the deep dives will show the available servers that random people are hosting

but you can host your own if you only want your friends in the game

[tidal drum]

Ok cool cheers for that

[viscid sage]

but you cant join any dives in progress

hope no one dc's

[mystic summit]

Bf and I were doing it.. we died. But we got the overclocks so no biggie I think

addiction

[severe monolith]

You can reconnect if you dc, it's no biggie

[wraith shard]

yeah but some ppl might dc and abandon

[cunning walrus]

I just finished EDD with lead storm minigun and magic bullets revolver. Lead storm is good but there is barely any damage.

[wraith shard]

what

[cunning walrus]

I even took both damage mods

[wraith shard]

wdym theres barely any damage on lead storm

[cunning walrus]

I had to shoot an armored grunt for several seconds and they wouldn't die

I will try going with rof mod for tier one (instead of accuracy)

[wraith shard]

lead storm kills grunts in half a second

have you heard of aiming good

[cunning walrus]

Lol I was shooting one target

No need to aim

[wraith shard]

[cunning walrus]

They were right there

[wraith shard]

this is bait

bye

[cunning walrus]

?

It was one armored grunt and I had to hold down the trigger for several seconds and they wouldn't even die

Spitballs took forever

I will try the rof mod instead of the accuracy mod

[wraith shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801781526098083850/1048576341336915968/image.png

lets go

2nd try

[tall falcon]

This man is slavic

[mortal cliff]

Czech even

[wraith shard]

yes

[thorny gull]

yeah that czechs out

[iron wren]

bro point extraction low oxygen is awful 😭

[atomic prawn]

time to do some creative resup placement

[wraith shard]

just play scout 🧠

[iron wren]

is that how you guys do the edd so easily

[wraith shard]

basically

[flat crest]

"Easy" is very subjective

[wraith shard]

I thought it was easy until I tried playing it with randoms 💀💀💀

[wraith shard]

nah just used bosco for majority of the aquarqs

didnt even place resups around the map

but yeah the 2nd stage was pretty wild on solo

@wraith shard what class u do it as?

[wraith shard]

Yo guys

[iron wren]

this is my 6th time trying to do the edd

me and 2 mates with a random

[wraith shard]

engi

Nice

chem rounds lok-1 and inferno breach

it can be tear through ammo but since i was solo i had plenty of refills

tears through large waves like butter

If I do solo will prob gunner

I need to try chem rounds (and get blessed to find inferno)

Getting a bit bored of scout now. Mainly just lack of firepower

especially good for swarmagedon since 3 lok-1 bullets destroy a whole swarm of swarmers

and breach cutter creates area denial for swarmers

My friend used the turret explosion on stubby and got over 900 kills in our duo

Huge

its the only engi weapon i haven't touched

[wraith shard]

this is my killcount from last weeks edd with the loadout i mentioned https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796677252531486734/1047201782029373460/image.png

Yeah engie usually top frags

yeah

competes with driller on higher swarmer killcount xd

[limpid pond]

This is because "kills" are actually kills + assists

Sentries tag everything, so they're counted as "kills" regardless if the enemy it hits is actually killed by it or not

It's why pre-buff Goo Bomber Special would always top kills despite barely even doing anything in actuality: It hits everything

[wraith shard]

i thought so

[limpid pond]

Kill count doesn't really matter because it's pretty much always Engi > Gunner ≥ Driller > Scout with very few exceptions

I prefer this to most other horde shooters where most of the time lowest kills = worst player though

[raw maple]

I'll say gunner over engi because i see gunner carrying harder than engi.

[limpid pond]

Like yeah, sometimes NTP/Minelayer Gunner gets top kills, or Sticky Fuel/GBS Driller gets top kills, but it doesn't really indicate all that much. Prefer this to something like Vermintide where people spam ults at trash mobs just so they can have highest kill count.

[rain yew]

I need to double check.
For the past 3 weeks, the black box has been spawning way inside the walls or ceilings.
Is this happening to anyone else or could it be that one of my mods is messing with the black box spawns somehow.

[regal axle]

Man I had no idea how I managed to do this EDD solo

I just completely kited

[rain yew]

oh brother. Lost EDD stage 2 because the escape pod spawned all the way up a wall about 60m off the ground. With the entrance facing open air. And I was playing driller.
I simply didn't enough time to get there. By the time I did there were 5 seconds left and couldn't even figure out how to jump into the drop pods platform

[regal axle]

The second mission feels genuinely bugged because it doesn't seem like the swarm actually ends???

The EDD Stage 2 rather

He calls swarms but then doesn't give the dialogue that they end

EDD Stage 2 is genuinely one of the hardest things I've had to do in my 400 hours of this game lol

[rain yew]

point extraction seems to be designed that way. The bugs that spawn between swarms are called ambushes and they can be as big or bigger than normal swarms.

[regal axle]

Huh

I just ended up kiting while Bosco carried each aquarg

It seems pretty important to place resupplies for EDD Stage 2 to have places to refill oxygen

[dusky mauve]

The ambushes get larger the longer youre in the mission

Stage 2 is a pretty short one in a team atleast

[velvet sigil]

EDD didnt seem that bad this week with cryo

[fair comet]

is there a specific channel where i can group some people up for a DD? interested in doing my first DD with a group

[severe tusk]

Yeah, the LFG channels.

[fair comet]

oh shit im sorry about that

thank you

[severe tusk]

No worries.

[hoary rover]

I finally beat the Elite Deep Dive

what a fucking introduction to the Elite Deep Dives lmao

My hands were unironically shaking on the 2nd mission, and I got the WORST spawn for the drop pod, where the exit platform was nowhere near any solid ground.

[radiant halo]

scout had connection issues to my edd last night and i think that rlly just did us in lmao

got the 10 aquraqs no problem, it's just finding morkite with low o2

i went flame driller and i think fire just handles mactera better than cryo
when i want to use cryo i want it to be almost instant, like scout's grenade

[fresh bloom]

Can I get more matrix cores from deep dives or can I get just 3 per week?

[tardy girder]

you can get 9 matrix cores a week - 3 from normal deep dives, 3 from elite dives, and 3 from core hunt

[fresh bloom]

Oh, thanks

[thorn gate]

Bruh. Someone just kicked me from a dive for

-checks notes-

Building a segment of a pipeline

[fast stratus]

Technically 11 assuming you craft all the cores (forge mastery)

[fresh bloom]

Ohh

[drowsy marsh]

[wraith shard]

anyone else having a lot of trouble with the elite deep dive?

[wraith shard]

Not really, this weeks EDD is pretty easy. If you’re struggling either you’re hard anchoring or your team is not competent. Try to find better players to do it with.

[ancient knoll]

ive tried the EDD once and am looking for a better engi build to try again. any help is appreciated

[wraith shard]

scout and engi duo is probably the easiest way to beat it

I would help out if I was good at engi 🫠

[charred owl]

anything crazy on the regular dd this week?

[wraith shard]

yeah, stage 2 extraction is hard to get to

[vapid crypt]

The teammate that ordered 5 resupplies at the end of stage 1 when we are all only at 50% ammo and agreed to wait until the next stage

[wraith shard]

thats about it

[charred owl]

awesome thx

[wraith shard]

oh wait

regular dd

yeah theres like 1000 nitra

[charred owl]

ok cool

[wraith shard]

wanna try playing it? im scout

[old condor]

the second mission in EDD kicked my ass multiple times

[hushed wren]

Finished a deep dive and our gunner went ape at the end of lvl 3 and ordered like 10 resupplies lol

So many zip lines in such a tight space.

[delicate oak]

hey guys, my ping is shit with most groups and i mostly prefer playing solo and wanted to ask if anyone had any tips for stage 2 when solo

[wraith shard]

whats your region

[delicate oak]

dude i seriously dont want to play with anyone i just want to do this shit solo now

[wraith shard]

ok

I was gonna offer to help if we were in same region :c good luck solo tho.

[delicate oak]

really didn't mean to offend or sadden you but i've tried this like thrice with people and have either died or gotten disconnected each time and just want to shove a pickaxe up that detonators ass by myself right now

thanks too btw

[delicate oak]

completed the stage solo after dying twice to the dumb mf

[wraith shard]

So outside of the stage 2 drop pod being wonky is there any other catch in this week's EDD ?

Because it just seems like a breeze to go through to me

[wraith shard]

Nope

Everything else is easy

[mortal cliff]

With a pub group of average 150 PR we did the EDD in 40 mins. Second stage is not that bad as people seem to make it. Maybe solo but I never play solo.

[wraith shard]

Its not bad if your scout is good :D

[unkempt saffron]

damn why stage 2 edd gotta be so tough, got me greenbeards as well to do it but we failed on that stage

guess imma need better players

[mild forum]

Hi, I was in a game with 2 of my friends and right after the main mission is ended, I got disconnected and not kicked, but when I tried joining back, it didn't let me join in because the main mission ended, Host invited me and I also tried joining the game several times but it didn't let me join and I didn't get any reward for finishing the mission either. Is there any way to claim the rewards that i was supposed to receive by any means?

[severe tusk]

You will have to replay the missions.

[wraith shard]

I plan on doing the dives later today, for anyone that might be interested

[lost jungle]

time to get good

[ivory marten]

Sometimes joining a mission restricts the class I use. How can I restrict a class when I am host?

[limpid pond]

Tick Prevent Latejoin Character Duplication in the options

[rich beacon]

yo the edd is lookin devious ngl

lookin at the pinned comment and im not sure i wanna try this junk

gotta be some of the worst mutations conceivable

[unkempt saffron]

It was actually tiring having to play with greenbeards on the 2nd stage, they kept dying and the swarms didnt stop coming, one of them even asked why they died when not at the deposit rig when we mentioned earlier it was low o2

Needless to say this edd is not exactly suitable for first timers

[short bloom]

I'LL SAY

I just finished it

You need a very good team and with classes locked

We split our roles

I was a scout, all I did was get Nitra

A guy from my team brought up a good point for the 2nd stage, you can only go as far as your oxygen lets you

So what we did is call supply pods around the stage

So they went along and mined with the supply pods providing O2

[opal girder]

Why is the second stage of this EDD's drop pod in the ceiling 😔

[short bloom]

Did you die before the pod arrived?

[opal girder]

Yeah, I was the only one left standing. just needed to get to the drop pod

but... eh... yeah. About that.

[short bloom]

Yeah, I tried about 7 times, also died before the pod

On the 5th time

Also, I love the M1000 but I switched up

Drak saved my ass lots of times

[flat crest]

Had the same thing. At least our scout got in. I was gonna drill to the side of drop pod and walk along the edge of it, but couldn't make it all the way with the low O2 + menace (very fitting name for that creature)

[fossil tulip]

Did mine duo with a first timer, we go through them with no issues other than the dropod in stage 2

[thorn jewel]

A quick scout for basically any remotely nasty PE main stage in EDD makes it way less of a problem to bring less experienced people

[sand valve]

This weeks edd stage 2 was ass kick from the word start to finish

even the spawn of the escape drop pod wanted to screw your happiness

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[odd rover]

How is EDD solo this week?

Prolly gonna run FM Driller.

[sand valve]

it will destroy you mentally

[wraith shard]

Omg its rayalot from gtfo (the game) discord

[odd rover]

Indeed.

[feral stag]

sup

[odd rover]

For w/e reason stage 2 pod didn't spawn in ceiling for me.

I had 160 reserve nitra and everything.

[elder pilot]

Does anyone know what are the conditions that make glyphids of all kind SPRINT at you? I have like 500 hours in this game and I haven't seen anyone ever mentioning it.
I've noticed every time I throw fire grenade at glyphids as a gunner I legit get swarmed in the next 3-4 seconds because they start running at me like there's no tomorrow. At this point I think it is legit better to just minigun them all down instead of ever using fire grenade that turns them crazy

[odd rover]

Afaik that might just be placebo.

If you're used to sticky flames, incendiary has no slowdown, so it's really bad at killing grunts if you're not helping it.

[elder pilot]

I mean, imagine you are running away from a glyphid in a straight line. If you look behind you 3 seconds afterwards, there has to be a distance between you and it, right?

But when I throw that grenade, run and then look behind me they are literally on my tail and I get hit

I swear I need to test it

[odd rover]

Would be interesting to know.

But I think that might just be H5 speed.

[gusty meteor]

That... Sounds like a fear effect kicking in

They get 1.5x speed boost to get away from a source of fear.. and since they are already heading in one direction...

[limpid pond]

Incendiary doesn't fear

[limpid pond]

I think it's this + Haz 5 speed

[balmy stone]

Edd isn’t bad but I need a slightly better team and better internet cause getting all the aquarqs by myself and having to rez constantly is a drag

Got a lag spike on aquarq 10 and lost all my health instantly

Soon as I went down it was a wipe

[tall meadow]

If folks need help in EDD, I’ll be available to help in few hours

[violet warren]

Low O2 PE is probably the worst possible mission/warning pair

Even worse than lethal enemies escort or whatever other hell-modifiers you can think of

[balmy stone]

You need a good driller

[tribal hull]

This EDD is literal cancer. 😭

Low ox aquarks on Hollow Bough? More like 9th layer of Hell.

I've tried four times to clear it now and we just get overwhelmed.

[balmy stone]

You should make tunnel shortcuts to the bottom cave and top cave asap and staircases

[tribal hull]

Sadly our driller wasn't thinking of that. 😭

[wraith shard]

it sucks unless you're scout, then it just sucks a bit less

[tribal hull]

And being a scout doesn't help since I can't zipline the aquarks around.

[balmy stone]

Driller is by far the most important class for stage 2

[scarlet ravine]

most of the aquarqs can be grabbed with just the oxygen you fill up from the minehead, there's two in an upper level cave that my team dropped a pod in so we could fill up before hauling them back down

[balmy stone]

The terrain massively sucks

[scarlet ravine]

and having a driller ramp to the lower area helps a lot, the aquarqs down below are actually pretty close if you have a straight shot back to the minehead

[woeful niche]

no just spam resupplies

it’s not horrible unless the cave gen is also bad

[violet warren]

In my experience that usually ends up resupplies in terrible spots that don't help reach the last aquarqs

[balmy stone]

There’s a bunch of vines and other obstacles making it hard to get to and from places before running out of air

[violet warren]

Followed by just down-spamming your way to get the last things out

[scarlet ravine]

now what was cancer about stage two was the drop pod location

ramp sticking out in the middle of the cave

[violet warren]

Yeah I don't think solo EDD is possible

You need a driller to get to the things in time, but you need a scout to actually get into the drop pod to go to the next stage

[wraith shard]

it is possible, ppl have done it

[wraith shard]

^

[balmy stone]

I haven’t seen the drop pod yet but I assume you could drill through the ceiling and dash

[wraith shard]

driller works for sure, scout is the best option for that drop pod specifically tho

I think you'll find most of the time the scout escapes and everyone else downs

[tall meadow]

I'm gonna be on now, so if anyone in NA wants to do an EDD, I don't mind to lend a hand

[wraith shard]

that and low O2 collecting quarqs is why your scout needs their brain switched on

[balmy stone]

My scout kept dying even though I killed like 90% of the stuff after him throughout the edd

[wraith shard]

good luck! 🫡

[violet warren]

I tried drilling into the ceiling to get into the pod, there isn't enough O2 to last long enough to make it

[wraith shard]

there is

I know because I witnessed it

[violet warren]

Luckily our scout managed to finish the stage

[balmy stone]

On solo if bosco rezzes you, you’ll get like 37% oxygen back per rez

[violet warren]

Honestly at this point I'm starting to think Low O2 is worse than shield disruption and lethal enemies combined because it just lets the game pull out a "no, you lose, and you can't win no matter what" card if it feels like it

[tall meadow]

it's my 10th run of this one this week so it's fine

[balmy stone]

Low o2 and haunted sucks a lot

[violet warren]

Drop pod in the ceiling would be a pain normally but it's instant fail if it happens on low O2

[tall meadow]

only doing them on repeat if it's actually fun

[violet warren]

Same with molly going up a resupply hole, if it happens on Low O2 mining you die

[wraith shard]

it is fun

[violet warren]

No way to prevent it because the main counter against molly shenanigans (drilling) results in everyone running out of O2 and dying

[wraith shard]

low o2 is the worst modifer cos it's simply not fun

[balmy stone]

It’s possible to keep rezzing people who died of no air all the way to the drop pod

One or two people should stay up

[violet warren]

Not when everyone has the same health and all dies at the same time

[balmy stone]

But through rezzing there’s enough to get there since it gives around 40% back

Gotta communicate for that to work though

[violet warren]

That requires someone to die before the rest of the team, and usually when you're extracting you've already called in the last resupply to refill everyone's health and ammo

If everyone has full health and full O2 when molly goes up the hole, they all die simultaneously and you lose

[dusky mauve]

No real reason to really keep everyone alive to the pod imo unless youre a die hard leave no dwarf behind enjoyer theyll be alive the next stage anyway

[violet warren]

And there's nothing you can do about it because Low O2's counterplay is removed in extraction

[balmy stone]

That’s where iw comes into play

Now one person has 40ish o2 and the rezzing chain begins

[violet warren]

Doesn't IW not refill O2?

[balmy stone]

The person rezzed will get it for sure

[violet warren]

What's frustrating is that it waits until extraction to roll the dice on whether or not the mission was beatable

[dusky mauve]

Are you solo or

[violet warren]

If the drop pod's in the ceiling, you were never going to win the mission anyways, so congratulations you wasted half an hour

[dusky mauve]

It being in the ceiling was no issue for us

[woeful niche]

idk i find low o2 mildly annoying at worst but not awful

same for haunted cave

[dusky mauve]

Just zipline or drill only person that didnt make it for us was a greenbeard engi that wasnt used to how we dealt with leaving that mission

[balmy stone]

Low o2 with bad terrain sucks

[violet warren]

You haven't had missions auto-fail to molly going up a resupply shaft and being far out of range by the time you finish the shortcut

[woeful niche]

i’d take low o2 over lethal enemies with a fuck ton of swarmers in the spawn pool

[violet warren]

Low O2 mission fails don't care how good you are at the game, just how lucky you are

[balmy stone]

I’ll take any other mutator over low o2

[dusky mauve]

Idk how the molly path really matters you can make it from the minehead to the pod before you die from o2

[woeful niche]

wdym?

[violet warren]

You need everything to go right on extraction, otherwise you die

[woeful niche]

it’s very easy to tell if ur gonna die of low o2 just don’t get greedy

spread out ur resups and it’s fine

[violet warren]

If you get held up for like 5 seconds Molly outruns you back and you can't get back to the O2 provider and die

[dusky mauve]

Idk it was literally just run up the hill behind and zipline to pod

[woeful niche]

molly is annoying yes but on pe you can really on just the resups since your in one big cave with a few smaller side caves

[dusky mauve]

The drop pod provides o2

[balmy stone]

If it’s mining I put resups down every new room about the same distance apart

[violet warren]

Mining on low O2 also means no drilling

So if you need to drill to extract because the cave gen is bad, you can't

[woeful niche]

it doesn’t mean no drilling

[balmy stone]

You can drop resups in the tunnel to the drop pod

[woeful niche]

it means you drill to each resup

and follow molly for as long as you can realistically

[dusky mauve]

You either touch base with resups or just chain rez

You can definitely be trolled by drop pod spawns with o2 or just general layout but you can always outplay it

[elder pilot]

I just tell my team to save nitra for one extra drop and just drop the resupply half way to the exit to refill 02

[manic coral]

What in the name of Karl is that cursed stage 2 of the EDD.

Like, managed it by the skin of m' teeth but my goodness.

[glossy walrus]

oh crusher's doomposting again huh

low o2 is probably one of the most annoying ones, but you can plan around almost all of it pretty well if you know it's low o2

for extraction on morkite missions, you can look at the map and try to avoid calling in resupply holes that pass through above caves. if you forgot or someone else called it in, plug up the hole with an engie. if no engie around, better put down some intermediate resupply pods otherwise molly is 100% going to leave without you

if you're a driller you have an option of predrilling your own shorter escape route before calling the droppod so that molly uses that instead of the resupply hole

for a bad drop pod location like some got this edd (didn't sound like we got it, we had a somewhat high one, but was easily drillable for us), aim to have enough nitra to call an emergency resupply near the drop pod to use as a mini base while drilling/platting/etcing up

low o2 is annoying, but there is skill based counterplay if you're prepared for it, as it's not like it's a surprise, you know before you start that specific level it's low o2. just most people don't think about these things and play them like any other level, then die when they get caught in the open

[leaden steeple]

how do I rejoin a deep dive after I dc?

[sullen pawn]

just call supply pods on your way in morkite missions and you will get enough o2, just dont drill a new tunnel. whats the issue?

[lament coral]

the edd was tough

mainly because the modifiers sucked

and that phase 2 drop pod spawn

but the objectives were easy

[unkempt saffron]

stage 2 kept throwing swarms like its nothing

we gotta ask r&d to create some rebreathers or something

[short bloom]

PSA - For Stage 2 of this EDD, Scouts are the key

Direct them to get Nitra so you can call resupply pods with oxygen far away from the base so you can mine the Aquarq without having to go back

You NEED a Scout on this EDD not only for that but to have someone that can reach the pod in time cause its spawn point sucks for zipliners

[lament coral]

i drilled up to the pod in stage 2

engie spammed plats to get up because they didn't see my tunnel

[tribal sandal]

Ping the tunnel for ur team

And set a waypoint

Ctrl + E on pc by default I think

[fast stratus]

The waypoint probably won't matter, since only you can see it

[glass echo]

Yea, I think the ping is universal, I've found that quite a few people do it

[severe tusk]

You can also just type in chat that you're going to drill to the drop pod, as the button is being pushed, so that people know to follow you if they want a straight path there.

[tulip musk]

running edd blind solo with engineer wasn't completely horrible. stage 1 black box and the entire stage 2 ate a few revives but the amount of nitra pretty much carried my warthog cycle overload build

if it weren't for the shedloads of nitra i would've had to make a second run with a mini shells build

and probably die in that one too though

also deepcore 21222 w/ fat boy, warthog 11322 w/ cycle overload. breathing room on armor rig, 21213 on bosco, thorns, vampire, elemental insulation, berzerker and iron will

*1213 on armor rig

imo the rest really doesn't make much difference

obviously the best strategy for haz 5 and 5.5 is not getting hit

[unkempt saffron]

kinda odd that the depo rig on stage 2 i wasnt able to refill my o2 level, maybe a bug

[balmy stone]

I tried solo driller and most of the aquarqs were in the ceiling

I can’t get a break on this one

[worldly turtle]

Bosco! Mine it!

[manic coral]

Is it just me, or was that a lot of leeches on the first stage of the Elite Deep Dive? Due to the wide open area they were a minimal threat, but still. Felt like Cave Leech Cluster.

[balmy stone]

I don’t remember seeing any

[unkempt saffron]

maybe in stage 1, but the other stages dont really seem too bad

[manic coral]

Guess it wasn't just me. At least wide open areas make Mactera easy to fend off. That and remembering cryo grenades.

[unkempt saffron]

it might be easier to maneuver around mactera in open areas but if you gotta get rid lots of them efficiently then the death tunnel is a more apt option

[knotty hazel]

how easy are solo deep dives?

[dusky mauve]

Depends on the class

And the layout of the dive

Definitely manageable just fine tho

Driller is probably the safest pick always if you do it blind

[lime meteor]

Easier then random teammate deep dives

[wheat dew]

Ya know stage 2 edd not so hard until some goofy ahh engi decide to go on another side of the map die in swarm and got 2 your other teammates killed in process of his rescue

[lime meteor]

low oxygen is green beard killer

[wheat dew]

Also, this dude was 10 ranks higher than me

[manic coral]

I did the Elite Deep Dive with a full party of greenbeards, myself included. Not a one was promoted more than once, and around the same rank too, in the 30-70 range. That said, an organised team works a lot better than a random one.

[fast fractal]

Got kicked from the team on my second ever deep dive the other day for getting downed too much (5 times).

The host who kicked me got downed on the on the other side of the first stage during a swarm, forcing us all to go in a cluster to pick him up btw. Not the only time he got downed either

[manic coral]

Cannot condone such leaf-lover behaviour from them. Might be better to host your own. Although whom you get for Deep Dives seems rather unpredictable.

[tall meadow]

I’ll be running more EDD’s some hours from now again if anyone else needs help

[balmy stone]

I get kicking on edd’s but not dd’s

I play dd’s to mine gold and get 10 resups

[ancient knoll]

can engi scout duo the dd? we both got the game within the last month

[balmy stone]

Yep

[manic coral]

It should be doable. The start can be a lil' spicy because it's Morkite Extraction and lethal enemies, but that's the only real 'hurdle'. Just mine all the nitra and gun down all the foes. easy.

[balmy stone]

My team was gunner scout engi

[cunning narwhal]

the regular DD is very generous with the nitra this week

[balmy stone]

The pumpjacks aren’t hard to get to

[manic coral]

It's very generous in general. Felt almost unusually easy and fast.

[cunning narwhal]

I think theres a bug going on with the nitra spawnrate atm

like its spawning way more than it needs too

[balmy stone]

It is

I like it on escort though

[manic coral]

It's only the usual nonsense of getting swarmed by the entire cave at the start that makes the On-Site Refining part notable. After the first two minutes, it's dead simple.

[ancient knoll]

sweet ty

[manic coral]

Just remember to never dig out more than one egg at a time to not trigger double swarms. Though with the amount of nitra, it's not the worst.

[fierce sparrow]

I actually have the opposite issue lmao, after too long in point extraction missions I find myself with perpetual swarms

[manic coral]

Point Extraction spawns more enemies the longer you stay in the mission. That's a feature.

On-Site Refining is the chill version without that.

[ancient knoll]

what lvl do yall consider acceptable to start doing the EDD? im account lvl 25 and a 1 star engi

i tired once and got my ass handed to me

[fierce sparrow]

ah, didn't actually know this, but it makes sense ig

was nice when I had golden bugs modifier

[manic coral]

Poke some regular hazard 5 missions after unlocking them, and if you're comfortable with them, try the EDD. There's no good way to gauge otherwise as it's a lot of personal experience and responsibility.

[cunning narwhal]

^

I reccommend trying a level 5 point extract solo and see how long you can last

[balmy stone]

You should do the edd’s with friends until you feel comfortable on haz 4 and alright on haz 5

[manic coral]

Even a greenbeard can handle these if they can coordinate with their team well.

[balmy stone]

Or solo edd

[cunning narwhal]

Changing how you play/how your builds are important as well

[balmy stone]

You might as well try to beat edd stage 1 for the matrix core though

Should be easy enough

[manic coral]

Stage 1 ain't the worst. But you better be good at dealing with entire swarms of Mactera.

[balmy stone]

Stage 2 sucks and I’d take a second mutator for a different biome over hollow bough low o2

[manic coral]

Bees, horrid aquarc spots, stabber vines, leeches ahoy, ceiling drop pod. No, sir, I don't like it.

And that's besides the increaased spawns delivering funny stuff like menace duos and several oppressors besides the riffraff.

[balmy stone]

The three worst things for me are the giant red vines, the other red vines and the aquarqs that probably don’t exist

[manic coral]

Literally had half the aquarcs stuck in a cave that's well above the bulkhead. If my team wasn't observant we would not have made it; nitra was in short supply when you're swimming in bugs.

Enough missions like these and I may as well be green no more.

[balmy stone]

I had 5 spawn in the ceiling when I was driller too

I managed to get the aquarqs but then I couldn’t find 30 morkite anywhere and died

[tall meadow]

aquarq always same spot

[balmy stone]

Nope

I played solo and the quarqs and morkite changed spots

[tall meadow]

only differs slightly with different number of dwarves

[manic coral]

Morkite was in some really weird spots with 4 dwarves. Can't imagine it being any prettier solo.

[tall meadow]

but mainly it is. 12 runs of this EDD by now and locations always same

[balmy stone]

I had a whole strategy to get all the aquarqs in 4 minutes or less then they weren’t in any of the shortcut areas

[tall meadow]

yes they were not because of terrain itself

[balmy stone]

Morkite and nitra both moved too

[tall meadow]

otherwise they would be where if you're consistently playing with the same number of dwarves

it does not differ by much.

[manic coral]

My group did the run blind, but perhaps the only reason we made it through was because we saw the modifiers on the loading screen and immediately knew the game was about to pull our legs.

[balmy stone]

4 player to solo differed a lot

Between 4 player runs it was the same

[tall meadow]

it being slightly further by a few meters from where you see in 4 player team does not constitute a lot but if it fits your description we can say that

[balmy stone]

That column at the top left area from the rig had nitra on 4 players and morkite on solo

[tall meadow]

and I am speaking from this EDD in particular

[manic coral]

Is the issue that you're playing on different platforms?

[tall meadow]

steam

[balmy stone]

I don’t remember this happening before on playstation could be a s3 thing

[manic coral]

It's the only thing that immediately comes to mind, at least.

[tall meadow]

wait

you talking on playstation?

[balmy stone]

Yeah

[tall meadow]

bruh

deep dive generation differs from steam and console

although not too much, it definitely differs way more

between these two platforms

that's why

[balmy stone]

I lost cause only 3 aquarqs were in the same place from my earlier run but I discovered the hidden room

[tall meadow]

then fair, the generation for console itself I also do not know how it looks compared to steam this week so no comment

[manic coral]

There was an entire section of cave that had no aquarcs for me, so if it had any moved there I'd be quite confused myself.

[worldly turtle]

Okay, so today's deep dive has gone exceptionally well as solo gunner. Except there's two minutes until I can't get the 'under 45min' achievement, it's the last stage, and I just arrived at the drop pod WELL in advance of Molly

Will she make it in time? Let's find out!

YES! The one time I actually wanted Molly to take some absurd ceiling shortcut, and she did!

[wraith shard]

when you've done DD/EDD in 30 mins but not done stay in mission for longer than an hour 💀

[sage solar]

This week’s DD & EDD were insanely easy and straightforward

[wraith shard]

Real and true

[vagrant silo]

dd fine
EDD fine on everything but stage 2

did stage 2 solo as gunner and it was one of the worst missions I've ever done

[wraith shard]

But you did it! :D nice work

Btw, does bosco reset revives across stages like you reset active perks or nah

[dusty spindle]

Since beer effects carry over on deep dives

Which beer is the best to drink for a elite deep dive

[balmy stone]

Depends

[wraith shard]

Depends on objectives and modifiers but you can never go wrong with tunnel rat or red rock

[balmy stone]

Dark morkite speeds up mining, red rock is good for shield disruption and rocky mountain is good for 2 and 3 hit terrain biomes

Tunnel rat is solid too

[wraith shard]

Red rock makes shield disruption MUCH easier

[dusty spindle]

Red rock is always good on any misson

And it's dirt cheap too

It's like a hearty oily oaf

[fierce sparrow]

yes he does

[wraith shard]

Wicked

Thats gonna make it easy as fuck lol

[fierce sparrow]

certainly makes it a lot easier, yeah lol

[wraith shard]

Engineer turret ammo also resets on each stage for some reason

[sage solar]

Depends since this week when I did the DD it was dark morkite

So the DD was shamefully simple

[dusty spindle]

Pots o gold is probably the worst if you're trying to go quick

Since you probably aren't going to get gold much anyways

[unkempt saffron]

They are DD after all, easy is basically their description

[wraith shard]

I hope someday we get daily deep dives, they’re our only real “raid” missions (until they add another big boss fight mission like the sabotage)

I ignore the gold in EDD

would be nice if we got like 3 EDD's per week, so you have more content, but aren't pressured to do it daily

[woeful niche]

lame

[half wigeon]

Is DD cave gen different from normal missions?

Also, how do deep dives work, greenbeard here

[gray panther]

Don't think so

It's three missions back to back. Health and ammo carries over as do any minerals you mine, though regional minerals won't spawn you can still get them if a huli spawns. There are no events and two main objectives.

In deep dives, I starts at haz 3 and goes 3.5 and 4; and elite deep dives start at 4.5 and go 5 then 5.5

[half wigeon]

So it's just regular missions, but you have to finish them successfully 3 times in a row while the haz goes up?

[gray panther]

You can also only do them with promoted dwarves.

[half wigeon]

Is solo DD a good idea?

[gray panther]

If you can handle haz4 then go for it.

You want to manage nitra is a big thing.

[half wigeon]

Mm

Even more important than in reg missions?

[gray panther]

Yeah because it's carried over right

[half wigeon]

Got it. No supply drop left unlooted.

[gray panther]

The more you save in earlier missions the more you have in the last one.

[acoustic valley]

is there a difference between a regular deep dive and the elite version?
also a relative greenbeard

[charred radish]

Elites are harder

That's about it

[acoustic valley]

so if i did the normal deep dive and got the weekly reward, the elite one wont give anything extra right?

its just harder for the sake of being harder

[charred radish]

No it's separate

It's separates missions, biomes, and separate rewards as well

[acoustic valley]

oh shoot

good to know, thanks

oh actually one more thing since i was wrong about the elite thing

im assuming the blueprints you get for the forge are random?

[charred radish]

Yes

[acoustic valley]

cant really swap em out for anything else right

[charred radish]

Nope

[acoustic valley]

ok gotcha, wanted to make sure i couldnt swap it for something better before just making it

[charred radish]

Gotta pray to rng you get something you want

Or play to the point where you have everything

[acoustic valley]

cool cool

just started last week so ill worry about that once im done doing other stuff lol

thanks again

[charred radish]

Rock and stone

[acoustic valley]

Rock and stone

[sage solar]

DD Hazard : 3 -> 3.5 -> 3.5
EDD Hazard : 4.5 -> 5 -> 5.5

• Identical Core Rewards
  DD Exp : 15750
  EDD Exp : 20250

[charred radish]

I find it so odd that the last stage of dd is 3.5 and not 4

[drowsy holly]

yes they are hand crafted artisanal maps for that week. so everyone has the same map. the spawns are different though. like you might see a ton of bulks and i wont but the map is identical.

[pine epoch]

The escape drop pod placement on EDD stage 2 is brilliant

[wraith shard]

Guys i need some advice
What build i should run on my Corrosive Sludge Launcher thingie
I just unlocked it yesterday and need some advice

Also same for Crycannon

[random rampart]

For deep dives only?

[wraith shard]

I wanna have those with versatility and utility

[random rampart]

Someone help this dwarf please, I am not the best at builds, even less at builds for deep dives lol

[pearl viper]

what character is he using

i know how to make a really good engie grenade launcher but thats about it

[atomic prawn]

what OCs u got

[wraith shard]

None yet i havent got promoted yet

[atomic prawn]

ah

I would lean towards 32122 but going for ammo and charge cost is good too

and probably pair it with the fire epc

[hushed sequoia]

13212 is also pretty nice

sludge pump is very versatile and the mod tree is almost purely preference

[steel python]

When do the dives change? Wednesday or Thursday?

[mortal cliff]

Thursday

[steel python]

Crossing fingers for an easier EDD

Because ain't no way I'm doing PE with low O2

[fast stratus]

For us it went fine

[hushed chasm]

I swear everyone complains about the EDD being difficult every time

[fast stratus]

I played with 1 friend and 2 randoms, it went really well

Really from all the complaining I thought it would be worse

[hushed chasm]

I played solo as usual and only went down twice throughout the whole thing

I think the worst one I have ever done I would say was the point extraction as the last stage with lethal enemies modifier

[steel python]

I can tolerate low O2 if I had molly or it was on-site refining

I want to do it with a team because it's more fun

But I also don't want to not have fun because of too much bad in one stage

[hushed chasm]

Yeah the game is fun with other people to be fair, more chaotic and I like that

[fast stratus]

It is, in fact, a coop game yes

[hushed chasm]

What no way

[steel python]

Solo players:

[hushed chasm]

Bosco is not a good teammate I swear

[steel python]

He is invaluable in PE though

[hushed chasm]

I like him when he actually does what I tell him

Not too fond of him when I tell him to protect Doretta and he just doesn't do it particularly well

[steel python]

He's particularly awful at that

Just letting him stay with you while you are near Doretta is so much more effective no joke

If pinging him to Doretta made him repair her instead, I'll be a happy dwarf

[hushed chasm]

Honestly that would be a nice quality of life change, possibly same with rock crackers

[vale vigil]

I'm in the middle of my first deep dive now. If I fail a mission can I retry that stage or do I have to start over?

also, what hazard equivalent is this? :o

[odd rover]

Start over

DD is 3, 3.5, and 3.5 (per stage)

EDD is 4.5, 5, and 5.5

[vale vigil]

Thank you 🙏

I only tried haz 3 a couple of times before this so when the big ghosty fella came out of nowhere and hit me for just about all my life I nearly wet myself

But it worked out

[serene frost]

i m kinda new

n i have questions about deep dive

how does the reward system works there

i get one overclock after i finish one dive

but i did not get anything on second time

[atomic prawn]

Yeah

[serene frost]

can i only get the reward once per day?

[atomic prawn]

You get 1 per completed DD stage and 1 per completed EDD stage, per week

[serene frost]

ah fuck

so i can only get reward next week?

[atomic prawn]

Yeah, you can get 6 more next week

If you craft the 5 of the 6 you have, you get 1 more

since the forge terminal gives you 1 per 5 crafts

[serene frost]

i see

thanks

oh well

then i only need to win once per week

[charred radish]

Once the dd and once the Edd, then repeat next week

[dark dock]

Can I play Deep Dive with friends that arents promoted?

[balmy stone]

Nope

[dark dock]

damn =[

[lusty fiber]

You forgot the core hunt quest

So you have 9 overclocks per week

And some new season stuff if it's out

[rich osprey]

best beer ?

[radiant halo]

whatever you please
for the dives i went rocky mountain on the regular, slayer stout on the edd (i failed tho)

honestly on the regular dive the rocky mountain wasn't too worth it this time, might as well run pots o gold lol

[limpid pond]

Red Rock Blaster. Nothing competes with 1.69x max HP other than maybe Rocky Mountain.

[half wigeon]

Are there "best loadouts" specifically for DDs?

[balmy stone]

Generalist loadouts that are balanced for cc and single target are the most adaptable

If there’s tons of nitra then going for damage instead of ammo economy is alright

[radiant halo]

if there's certain warnings you need to conquer such as swarmegeddon or mactera plauge you can also add things to ur generalist build that make those stages a breeze

such as a good fire or cryo driller buld or cryo nades on scout

stun sticks work well too

[balmy stone]

For swarmegeddon I’d use sludge with hydrogen for area denial

[radiant halo]

i would say bring engi ssg for dives, just to give you more wiggle room sometimes

[mortal cliff]

Driller: either Cryo cannon with any OC, Sludge Pump with VIM
Gunner: Anything on minigun, NTP autocannon or Splintering shells, Zip Fuel Hurricane or anything else except for minelayer (too situational and sucks on Mactera Plague)/ MGC, PBM (they are terrible all the time)
Engineer: clean ammo OC/ Cycle Overload on shotgun, ECR on LOK-1
Scout: Hipster M1k, BoM/ AISE GK2, TEF/OPA/ImpDef Drak-25

[radiant halo]

i love those nades

[balmy stone]

Solid choices

You can get a ridiculous amount of kills if you put vir on the shard too

[limpid pond]

Minelayer? Situational? 🧢

No way in hell you mean to say Plasma Burster Missiles and Manual Guidance Cutoff are better than Minelayer, which beats NTP for ammo efficiency

[mortal cliff]

ney ney ney, ommited those bcuz they are horrible choices without a saying

nobody considers those

[limpid pond]

Why say "anything else" and only exclude the best OC in the game then? 🤨

[mortal cliff]

Also don't see minelayer being effective against Dreads

happy?

[limpid pond]

1 mission type it sucks on, meanwhile it demolishes everything else

[balmy stone]

I don’t like the feel of minelayer which makes it less effective for me

[limpid pond]

It's less versatile than Frag Missiles and Salvo Module, and blind Deep Dives want versatility more than anything else, but to say it's "too situational" is an outright lie

[mortal cliff]

oh and lets not forget Industrial sabotage is also a part of DDs and EDDs

[limpid pond]

Minelayer is still deleting the Hacking Pod swarms, Shredders, and Sniper Turrets. You're just worse off vs the Caretaker, and you still have your secondary and the ability to directly shoot stuff. Gunner is never the linchpin of Sabos anyway.

[lime meteor]

I have no ocs for hurricane

and yet I regret not dropping the auto cannon sooner for it

[limpid pond]

Why the hell can't I post a write up, keep getting "This can't be posted because it contains content blocked by the community"??? Is the word "sucks" blacklisted or something?

VSS? Blind? Top? Behind?

[worldly turtle]

Scunthorpe?

Hmm guess not

[wraith shard]

Playing the EDD on 300 ping was miserable

[worldly turtle]

How much of the two deep dives are shared by everyone? Cave type, generation, objectives, hazards, etc.?

[balmy stone]

The cave gen and objectives should be the same, but I’ve noticed differences in aquarq / mineral spawns between runs going from 4 player to solo on ps5

[worldly turtle]

I was wondering if everyone else had to deal with that tiny haunted cave!

Good grief, trying to deposit anything! You run away from the haunter, call Molly, the haunter gets to you first, have to flee, hope Molly stays there so you can double back, she doesn't, rinse and repeat

[balmy stone]

That was my first experience with haunted actually

It was mining and every time I got away from the ghost molly would move before I got back

[errant moat]

Man, I hate the bough

and that second stage in ED is rough

[buoyant forge]

yeah but once you're through that it's easy sailing

[potent seal]

Multi-billion corporation try not to suck at coding regex challenge

Difficulty impossible

[clever trellis]

I hate the haunted cave

I hate the haunted cave

I hate the haunted cave

[trail pivot]

I love the haunted cave

[balmy stone]

I tried the edd again on pubs and beat it this time

[severe tusk]

I did it like 30 minutes ago, and 2 of my random teammates were struggling pretty hard. We got it done though.

[balmy stone]

The randoms this time were way better than my last team

Scout found most of the aquarqs and pinged where I could drill shortcuts

[severe tusk]

Yeah, I can usually carry an EDD, so I don't mind having to try hard every now and then if the team is struggling. I got the impression that some of them had tried several times already. When I was new, sometimes it would take me 3+ tries to complete EDDs. I think once or twice it took me 6-7 attempts.

[azure talon]

any strats for the second stage of the edd?

[severe tusk]

Call down a resupply in areas away from the base that have aquarqs, morkite, and nitra to mine so that you have a source of O2. When waves come, go fight in large open areas like where the drop pod starts you on the mission.

[sage solar]

Do that and explore in pairs if you’re really trying to save nitra

[azure talon]

thx mates

[tribal hull]

This EDD is literal cancer.

I'm on 8 attempts now.

We wiped right as the drop pod was coming in on stage 2. I just about put a hole in my wall.

[sage solar]

This week’s EDD is one of the more easier ones though

Are you getting greenbeards?

[soft token]

he thinks low 02 aquarqs is easy chat

[sage solar]

This one wasn’t very hard

Cave gen was nice

Plus if you actually collected nitra you can just call down 2 re supplies in the 2 main areas with aquarqs

[severe tusk]

I would not say this week's EDD is one of the easier ones, but I have seen harder.

[pure crescent]

What's the EDD look like this week?

[modest ivy]

i had a hellish time finding the aquarqs in this edd

[modest ivy]

first and last stages are ez. 2nd stage is the rough part. you should be able to do the first stage with only 1 resupply and have 2 resupplies right away for the next part

a few cave leeches in first and second. idk about third stage

[sick yarrow]

same

[graceful basin]

is this weeks EDD broken?

we had multiple massive waves spawn every 10s

[languid crow]

Ayo fuck edd stage 2 this week

Not even gonna try that shit again

Genuinely awful

[graceful basin]

yeah stage 2 was straight up broken

never seen anything like that

[zealous nest]

Sounds fun

[dark compass]

i honestly don't remember wave 2

[modest ivy]

now that i think about it, yeah the waves were being sent ridiculously often in the aquarq stage

is that not normal for haz 4.5/5? i dont have much time in haz 5

[wraith shard]

+respect to the chads that beat this weeks EDD

[modern moat]

is the neurotoxin payload for the autocannon good for EDD ?

I am planning to use it with the fear mod

[cunning narwhal]

Managed to beat this weeks EDD with 4 scouts lol

[old widget]

NTP is pretty much always good for EDD, to the point where it sometimes has a bad rap for making things too easy

[wraith shard]

it's so boring tho

[grave narwhal]

DD (Bared Benefit) highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh3R7DvImME

[woeful harness]

Yeah that's normal for haz 5, you will see waves between waves with little to no downtime.

[regal escarp]

elite is pain

i need a dream team

[ancient cove]

Pretty easy this week

Just pull out eggs one by one

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[hazy lily]

Oh, so that's why it was so hard

Maybe we shouldn't pull all the eggs in quick succession

Did make for a target rich environment though

[grave narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/sunglasses-on-shades-look-stare-double-sunglasses-gif-17838198

[shell herald]

hey need somone to do normal deep dive with

[random rampart]

What's your platform?

[fair pulsar]

Gf did it solo as scout

Twice

[wraith shard]

🫡

scout is def the way to go for solo

[austere axle]

Mobility is always a good thing to have.

[wraith shard]

not dying to low O2 is a good thing to have :D

[hazy lily]

This week's edd is just speedrun or die ngl

[wraith shard]

it was rly fun tho ngl

extremely frantic

just adds to the chaos

which makes everything more fun

[severe tusk]

My random group finished the EDD in 54:35, but two of the guys had a lot of deaths.

[hazy lily]

Oh yeah, it was great

[wraith shard]

praying new EDD won't have sabo

[lime meteor]

we got double escort before next is double sabotage

[hazy lily]

I wonder if it'll continue to be omelette week

Getting all the eggs was fun

[main crescent]

On Playstation, it isn't just Point Extraction in EDD. I did a simple Solo Point Extraction Hazard 3 during a conference call (was just listening on the call). A pack of 8-12 bugs w/ 2 of Slasher or Guards in each pack spawned every 10-20 seconds. By the time I had both Lithophage Outbreaks destroyed, the turrets on the rig were all out of bullets and I hadn't even collected a singe Aquorq

Being super curious as to whether this was an error with the Lithophage Outbreak, I did a couple of other Solo Point Extraction Hazard 3s and, yep, same thing. Packs spawning about every 15 seconds or so even during major, announced attacks. It was hell every time trying to get everything done.

[severe tusk]

Waves continue to get bigger the longer point extraction missions go on.

[main crescent]

Familiar with that, but we are talking an immense quantity of waves, and not the announced waves, just the spawns of packs every 10 seconds, immediately upon arrival. So many the turrets ran out of ammo ~7mins in ... on Haz 3

[unreal halo]

haunted caves for the deep dive oh no

[wraith shard]

Its only haz 3 it wont kill you

[drowsy holly]

point extraction and to a lesser extent refinery missions have constant small spawns that git increasingly bigger until they are their own wave. they also spawn during waves.

with low 02 this week youre going to probably naturally take awhile to do it. but you should always rush through pe as fast as possible because of that. its also why if you have a pe golden bugs you can rush through the aquarqs mine all the nitra and build a bunker and just farm a t on of gold.

[gusty meteor]

So long as the game doesn't decide to get clever with a bulk detonator

[wraith shard]

Didnt see any bulks in the 3 times I finished the EDD

Theres a bunch of grabbers in stage 2 tho

[modest ivy]

i'm aware of point extraction's scaling. i was just unsure if there was anything wrong with its intensity this edd

[unreal halo]

anything i need to know for the deep dive stage 3

not the edd, havent done that yet

[modest ivy]

no, it's just a simple morkite mission with 2 eggs

[unreal halo]

dope haha

debating to do the edd solo or not 😐

[modest ivy]

i've been trying, but i cant find the last 2 or 3 aquarqs T_T
and im failing to find much nitra in stage 2 as well

[unreal halo]

rip 😦

[lost jungle]

u spent ur time doing the lithophage so its kinda expected that u didnt get any aquarqs

[old igloo]

Whens next deep dive rotation i dont feel like getting on

[drowsy holly]

naw seemed normal to me for being haz 5 pe. thats why i dont play on haz 5 outside the edd very much its a bit much sometimes. i just wanna chill and find and mine minerals most of the time

[lost jungle]

copium

[gloomy rampart]

Stage 2 EDD is crap. There’s no way that isnt “swarmageddon” with how many enemies they constantly throw at you, and then the drop pod location is in the sky. How is a driller supposed to get up there..

[balmy stone]

It was constant enemies from the beginning for me as well, stage 2 was a nightmare

The cave gen def gave bugs the advantage, few places to kite and lots of places they could attack from

[thorn jewel]

The PE seemed normal from a hazard level perspective. The only rude bit was some of the slightly better hidden aquarks I found in the top room and the drop pod location

[balmy stone]

Stage 3 definitely felt like 5.5 and nailed in the fact that I should bring loadouts I’ve used more than two or three times to an edd

I pulled my weight by a thin margin

Thank god for low grav or I would’ve died 20 times over

[hazy lily]

Stage three was pretty rough

Glad I brought the lok for it

[hazy lily]

It sucked if you couldn't find the last aquarq

If you can finish the level in <10 mins it's not so bad

Once you hit 10-15 mins on haz 5 pe becomes stupid hard

[worldly turtle]

I might try solo EDD tonight for the first time, fully expect to die horribly

I wish I was a high enough level to promote my driller, since I seem to be more effective as him, so it's back to gunner

[flat bear]

Let's have a deep dive into this discussion, @worldly turtle you are a failure

[worldly turtle]

What, why

Don't speak too soon! I have a chance, however slim!

[modest ivy]

how the hell do you do a 10 aquarq pe in 10 minutes lol

[flat bear]

nah, its done from start. u needa think about it

[worldly turtle]

Mission control says he lost the keys to start the drop pod

You're right

[sick yarrow]

Did edd without going down

[flat bear]

@sick yarrow Did I ask? u gonna get a warning, im MOD

[sick yarrow]

H

[flat bear]

@vestal panther he let me us his discord to help stop spam like you, keep it up

[sick yarrow]

[opal minnow]

Is this weeks EDD a particularly rough one? Doesn’t look like it on paper

[sick yarrow]

Not too bad

aquarks on 2 are well hidden

extract point is shit too

[severe tusk]

Kind of depends on your team. It was a little rough with two less experienced players.

[lone lodge]

scout solo viable?

[sick yarrow]

I wouldn’t know

[modest ivy]

so long as you can deal with the mactera and swarmers in stages 1 and 3 yes. the hardest part for solo scout is probably going to be stage 1 with the mactera and black box
bring cryo nades for stage 1

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[hazy lily]

stage 2 sucks if you can't find the aquarqs fast, but otherwise it's chill yeah

[worthy tree]

I'm I new player, and i wanna find which character is good, is scout a good character?

[summer sinew]

Each character has pros and cons and i'd recommand Driller and gunner for beginners

[old widget]

Welcome, new miner! Scout is a popular first character for a lot of reasons. There’s no wrong answer though, all classes shine.

(Also FYI this channel is technically to discuss the endgame “deep dive” content, general discussion usually happens in #drg-chat though it can be a bit noisy)

[sage solar]

I mean you can’t not have fun with the grapple hook

Contribute to gravity’s KD

[worthy tree]

i’ll make sure to play driller

[thorn glacier]

soloing a deep dive for the first time has got to be the most nightmarish experience ever

…at least, when it decides to be hard

[trail pivot]

stage 2 could have been easier but host chose a bad spot for one resup

too close to the minehead

[wraith shard]

did scout get nerfed or something why so many memes about it

[trail pivot]

scout got buffed to cloud 9

[limpid pond]

Every class' power has only gone up over time. Scout's just the offensively weakest. S2 was rough for him tho

Wonder if ER will get nerfed into the ground or if Scout will finally get the Gunner treatment

[trail pivot]

it's actually boomerang killing the smaller enemies that make an equally big difference in letting me outkill gunner

[limpid pond]

:copium:

[trail pivot]

if anklebiter type enemies are present it's guaranteed to add some double digits