deep-dive-discussion

[serene stratus]

I've tried EDD like 8 times so far, every single one has ended in either an exploder wave spawning ontop of doretta instantly destroying it or being overwhelmed by bulks

[wraith shard]

yeah, I was dumping my breach cutter into everything on the last stage because we had 10 resupply pods sitting around us

[trail pivot]

even with predrilling?

[wraith shard]

damn, unlucky dude, it took me 3 tries to do the EDD, you got this!

[hazy lily]

Oh man that exploder infestation looks like it'll be rough

[bitter olive]

I’ve personally never had any real issues with exploder infestation but that could just be cause I don’t solo EDD often

[cunning thistle]

Last stage of EDD was evil

[nimble burrow]

Sure was. Thankfully i JUST finished it first try!

[young vigil]

My team surprisingly only got a singular bulk on the third stage

[ivory crest]

Wdym it was easy

I don't even remember it because it was so easy

[cunning thistle]

Well the combination of exploders and doretta is always annoying and having 3 first timers kinda spices things up a bit

[ivory crest]

Exploders exshmloders

Just kill them or something

[violet mauve]

Colette to the face.

[violet nimbus]

Stage 3 DD was just pain, I was playing solo gunner, it took me like 50 minutes, maybe more to complete it (kind of new to the game, don't judge)

[violet mauve]

Nah, it really is annoying without a Driller.

Don't worry.

[violet nimbus]

Thank you, I thought it was me being dumb c:

[trail pivot]

oh yeah the last pumpjack is way way up

[violet mauve]

Our Gunner used a very cursed technique.

He put a zipline up, then put a pipeline part on one of the highest points of the refinery. It was like a 70° upwards slope.

I didn't even know that can be done.

[trail pivot]

during mactera plague?

[wraith shard]

Hows the edd this week?

[trail pivot]

two boxes smdh

[white osprey]

does the dozer in EDD Stage 3 only need a refill once?

[glossy walrus]

deep dive escorts always only need 1 refuel

[trail pivot]

you should predrill

the drill will run right through both minimules and disturb all legs

nevermind the multiple spitters

there were two bulks in my game

one seemed to be from the mules, and the other showed up after the refueling

ntp gunner carried tbh

exploders really mauled us constantly, lots of collateral deaths

I brought vim pump and wide lens gamma

didn't feel good until the third stage when wide lens started curb stomping exploder clusters as they spawned

left with around 9 deaths

there were a couple of opressors, and the occasional trijaw third stage.

[cobalt atlas]

Predrilling did a lot of good with a full squad for the times I went in with a full squad

[knotty zealot]

no predrill was pretty fun though heh

[severe tusk]

Yes.

[stiff blaze]

Did anyone else get wacky cave generation in Stage 3 of the normal DD?

[lament coral]

dd is the same for everyone

[stiff blaze]

I've heard some people talk about it being changed partway through the week.

[lament coral]

thats not true

[stiff blaze]

Fair enough, ty

[spare trail]

my friend and I got absolutely no bulks on the last stage we dodged 10 bullets

[tame rover]

TFW I matchmake a god damn driller troll in the deep dive, making excesively long morkite tunnels and digging down the resupplies

why do people go troll in deep dives

[cosmic hemlock]

😩

[languid crow]

the deep dives change every thursday if thats what you're talking about

[stiff blaze]

No, I know that

[fathom hazel]

Holy fucking hell

This EDD is actually horrible

My god

Started up the drill dozer and it immediately got mauled by a swarm of exploders

But no permanent damage

Then the swarms of mactera

On the second stage a mactera swarm came up to me and a driller and it was composed entirely of tri-jaws and mactera brundles

Glad I had cryo nades to spam at them

With all that said

It was good fun

Didn't manage to beat it though

A detonator finished off the drilldozer

[brave zinc]

wow EDD was TOUGH, especially that last level

good fun :D

[young wagon]

first EDD the amount of exploders is insane

also duck you did great (I was le scout)

[plucky warren]

Did anyone else find this weeks EDD much easier than last weeks?

I never got past EDD2 last week, but finished try 1 this week

[lime meteor]

Edd stage 2 is average mactera plague

[grave narwhal]

This was a tough one. Here's my solo run of this week's Elite Deep Dive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Cu7QQNhyQ

[hard girder]

sorry wrong chat

[gusty grotto]

EDD was fine this time

although my team were careless on the last stage managed to clutch up

my back is broken though from the carrying

[merry saddle]

EDD offering 400+ nitra on the first stage lol

[rare nexus]

can meteorites spawn on dds and edds?

[fathom hazel]

I don't think so?

But don't quote me on that

I've done like

3 deep dives

[gusty grotto]

dont think so

[rare nexus]

understood

[gusty meteor]

Nope. No events or even biome resources spawn in deep dives

You may see golden lootbug or a hoarder. But that's about it

[merry saddle]

the final EDD mission was very interesting solo

I had one of the laser pillars bug out and it couldnt be destroyed, constant damage being dealt :/

[burnt sandal]

no

[wet yoke]

iirc no crafing mats, no events

[severe tusk]

I randomly got a couple of other greybeards for the EDD and it was a breeze.

[languid crow]

edd is a suicide mission this week lmao, it's not bad until the final stage though tbh the other two aren't too bad

at least for me a somewhat beginner

[solemn stirrup]

Take it slow and easy, final stage is pretty okay too just drill to the end then start up doreta ezpz

[knotty zealot]

Management would like to reassure its miners that there's no need to go deep-rock drilling on the third step of the Elite Deep Dive. That's what the drilldozer is for. Plus, we've got a tight time schedule here, so be sure to start up the machinery as soon as it's deployed. Rock and Stone, miners.

[rich beacon]

this EDD was pretty difficult but i think last weeks was worse

EDD 3 lethal enemies

[patent grail]

Is Bullet Hell viable on Gunner for deep dives or is there another OC i should be looking for

[severe tusk]

I haven't really used it much if at all, but I think that Bullet Hell is considered one of the worst OCs for minigun.

[deft rapids]

bullet hell is viable enough, in the sense that it's pretty comparable to a minigun without overclocks (atleast when it comes to swarms), which is a fine weapon either way.

it's not an overclock that really boosts it in any noticable capacity or helps greatly in a certain role, so you wouldn't want it for min-maxing or to really boost your stats.

it's not like the game requires maximum efficiency or something, so you can pretty much just run anything that's fun to you and still carry your weight, as long as you build it sensibly.

[limpid pond]

Bear in mind Bullet Hell got huge buffs recently because of the ricochet chance and damage fix

[limpid pond]

To be honest, I haven't used the buffed version much so I can't say, but if you want a "meta" Gunner build that shreds everything, go with 31212 Fragmentation Missiles Hurricane, 31222 Minelayer System Hurricane, or 3x222 Neurotoxin Payload Autocannon. You know what, I'll do the EDD with Bullet Hell just for you.

[raw maple]

imo this edd isn't even hard

rn on my last stage

[deft rapids]

when it comes to the minigun OCs best options, burning hell and leadstorm will generally perform best. between them, it depends quite a bit on what missions you face, when it comes to which one you want. their use-cases/strengths differ a good bit.

[hasty dragon]

SMHHHHHHHH

smhhhhhhh

[gusty grotto]

🥱

what can I say

it was very fun though

[hasty dragon]

we weren't that baaaad

:3

but yes it was fun

[gusty grotto]

maybe im exaggering a lil bit

but damn did I get that dopamine rush

[limpid pond]

Alright, the answer is no, don't use Bullet Hell for EDDs 😅

You run out of ammo faster than the Scout for worse group clear than the explosive primaries

[desert frost]

Quick question, do deep dives count towards season challenges? For example I have "Complete 5 missions as Engineer or Gunner" would this go up by 1, by 3 or not at all if I did a deep dive?

[limpid pond]

Nope

They're not counted at all

[desert frost]

aw rip

[limpid pond]

Good thing the EDD had enough Nitra for my Bullet Hell shenanigans, yeesh

Enough spillover to call 6 resupplies at the Heartstone

[vague sentinel]

are EDD´s always this easy? just completed my first one... and i was sure i would die in mission 1 😄

[somber idol]

it gets easier the more you play that type of mission

[limpid pond]

Tbh yes

[somber idol]

just gotta figure out what works for ya

[glossy walrus]

edd's are just haz 4.5/5/5.5 missions with two primary objectives instead of 1, if you can play on those hazes then it's not really that different from normal

[limpid pond]

Unless there's an obscenely hard modifier combo + low Nitra rolls, EDD is almost always going to be pretty easy because this game is pretty easy in general, and Nitra carries over between stages

[glossy walrus]

other than that you get even more nitra than usual because it piles up

[limpid pond]

There's also no crafting minerals or Season/Machine Events that take up extra time, so you clear stages faster than regular missions

[dreamy terrace]

the third stage is just impossible

drildo stage i dont even want to try a second time stop smocking dev or trolling

[trail pivot]

pre drill and have someone watch the rear

[limpid pond]

Tbh it's only "viable" because your average mission floods you with Nitra. I was burning through ammo faster than the Scout 💀

Pretty boring how the ultimate viability trait in this game is ammo efficiency. Max AoE/Blowthroughs + DoT + pick all ammo mods and you're done. Anything else runs dry mid-swarm and you get killed.

[woeful niche]

not true at all lol

[limpid pond]

Well "ammo efficiency" is a pretty vague term. Some stuff like Hyper Propellant is ammo efficient because it one-shots everything despite only having 11 shots. In particular I mean the status effect meta. Electrifying Reload? Used to be one of the most boring, shitty OCs in the game. Now it one shots Grunts because they made the Electrocute do a bit more damage.

[woeful niche]

you don’t need to bring an ammo efficinient build to do that well as long as you aren’t making really dum decisions or builds

[limpid pond]

But then you have something like Minelayer that's so obscenely strong it beats out NTP...

[limpid pond]

OK but is running out of bullets mid-fight any fun? Is having to call a resupply when no one else is at half ammo because you brought Bullet Hell exciting? Is that sticking it to the sweatlords?

Yeah, I demolished the EDD nonetheless because there's a bunch of Nitra and I have 1.5k hours. But halfway through the first mission I could only think "Man I should've brought something else"

#drg-chat will moan and whine about muh "braindead" Sticky Fuel/NTP/whatever meta OC the hivemind's decided they want to hate next, but the alternatives generally just play lame.

[woeful niche]

wdym play lame

a lot of flamer builds work very well even if they aren’t as efficient as sticky fuel

I cud bring neurotox to every mission but it makes the game unfun for me so i’d rather bring hurricane aoe builds

[limpid pond]

You say that, but Hurricane is literally better than Autocannon

[wraith kraken]

Do exploders count as elemental damage

[limpid pond]

Nope

Elemental Insulation is a garbage, never-take perk, it hardly resists anything https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Elemental_Insulation

It's A Bug Thing has more use cases. Genuinely.

[wraith kraken]

damn

[limpid pond]

Tbh it'd be pretty good if it just resisted Explosive

[pastel sky]

what’s the elite deep dive like rn

[limpid pond]

The Nitra is plentiful

[pastel sky]

ouuu

[manic coral]

The second mission on the EDD is kinda scary, but even a greenbeard like me managed to clear this one.

[hasty quiver]

The third edd is actually really hard without a scout

[limpid pond]

What isn't hard without a Scout unless it's 1 Complexity?

[fluid cliff]

since when is max ammo efficiency the only thing that matters

is that a long winded way of saying total damage?

[limpid pond]

Nope

I think a better term might be firing duration. Pre-S3 GK2 had "fine" total damage, and we all know how that played...

[fluid cliff]

the amount of “up” time?

[limpid pond]

I've had a feeling that super high RoF builds are actually kinda doo doo. Combat Mobility and Big Bertha Autocannon are built around mag dumping, and they're the worst OCs on it.

[fluid cliff]

depends on how well you can aim, and what max rof ends up being

if you’re speaking broadly across all weapons then certainly not

if you’re speaking specifically about the autocannon then maybe

autocannon has a 5 second reload and you definitely feel it

[limpid pond]

...but then max RoF Lead Spray is meta. Maybe for primaries? But then EM Refire is meta. Hm...

[fluid cliff]

it can’t be applied broadly

refire was the first thing that came to mind

[limpid pond]

Yeah it's not really a one size fits all thing. Total damage is the most common denominator, but even that has caveats like Elephant Rounds. I'm just trying to articulate that off-meta builds are unfun because you run out of ammo faster for less damage dealt for very little gain.

[fluid cliff]

the age old argument is max damage vs max ammo and how much of a difference the marginal extra efficiency of max ammo is actually providing

also weapon dependent

[woeful niche]

lmao say that again bro

big bertha is the worst ac overclock?

[limpid pond]

Second worst, but yeah

[woeful niche]

fuck no

second best

[limpid pond]

What's it do that Hurricane, or more specifically, Jet Fuel Homebrew doesn't?

[fluid cliff]

I think autocannon sucks entirely unless you’re on autopilot with ntp so I’m bowing out of this one

[violet mauve]

[woeful niche]

single target dps + good aoe, that dmg jet fuel cannot do

also working armor break

I forgot to mention jet fuel heavily relies on weakpoints meaning:

1. It can be inconsistent for many enemies
2. It loses against frozen bugs

they are both good ocs but saying jet fuel is straight up better is dum

[limpid pond]

Autocannon isn't bad at all, it just got powercreeped super hard by Hurricane. But TBH I've always thought Big Bertha was a stinker. Worse DPS than LSLS without the sustained fire, and also worse DPS than JFH. The ammo cut just hurts it too hard. Mag size T1 gives you Scout ammo levels and ammo T1 is reloading simulator.

[woeful niche]

the aoe builds are power crept yes. Jet fuel vs LsLS vs big bertha is a little more nuanced then: Hahah jet fuel dps bigger

[violet mauve]

I like Big Bertha. :/

[woeful niche]

cus it’s good and strong

[fluid cliff]

can’t fault anyone for “liking” something

[woeful niche]

they all perform very similiarly on elim

[fluid cliff]

math is still math

[violet mauve]

Miss me with that mathhammer garbage.

I play DRG to have fun.

[fluid cliff]

okay

[woeful niche]

the math is that they jet fuel barely pulls ahead but that dmg potential isn’t always met

[violet mauve]

I had enough of that in 40k already.

[limpid pond]

And I like Special Powder, but I'm not gonna pretend it's amazing

[fluid cliff]

I already said there’s nothing wrong with liking something regardless of math idc about 40k

[woeful niche]

big bertha in a realistic situation can deal with prats way better cus it has. functioning armor break and requires 0 aim

[violet mauve]

Fair enough.

[woeful niche]

LSLS has the best sustain of the 3

[limpid pond]

JFH's armor break works, it's every other Hurricane build that doesn't

[fluid cliff]

minigun has the best sustain period lol

good gun

[woeful niche]

it doesn’t ignore dmg resist on first shot like bb

Big bertha will kill a shellback significantly faster due to this and the fact jet fuel needs weakpoint hits

big bertha has the worse sustain of the 3 but it also arguable does the best against swarms, since bb doesn’t actually touch ur aoe

jet fuel gets super high dmg but it’s aoe is completely cucked

anyways i use the 3 interchangeably on most missions and it’s honestly just preference between them

[final ermine]

hows the EDD looking this week? is it relatively easy? because the last 2 ppl were talking about how hard they were

[trail pivot]

some more details from yesterday

[limpid pond]

People just say anything about any Dive, trending towards "This is impossible" in this channel. I beat it 0 downs with Bullet Hell, but there's probably someone who complained they wiped stage one

People came out in droves to complain about the Rich Atmosphere Industrial Sabotage, for example

[trail pivot]

makes it a lot harder to platform

[naive sparrow]

I just did it with randoms, pretty manageable

nothing out of ordinary, 2 bulks on last mission

just get freeze for mactera and you are golden

[limpid pond]

Literally how

[final ermine]

thank karl no industrial sabotage, i hate it on deep dives

[naive sparrow]

There's one on regular DD tho.

[trail pivot]

faster movement speed, bit harder to land on crystals, etc. And the chipmunk voice isn't a plus.

[final ermine]

yeah i just finished DD with friends

[final ermine]

am i just unlucky or are there a shit ton of menaces

[manic coral]

The EDD didn't feel too bad. Pretty braindead first stage, but very spicy second stage (don't be me and trigger double swarm). Third stage is a bit of a tossup and probably requires careful approaches.

I'm a greenbeard with only Driller and Engi promoted, myself. Went Driller for this one.

[smoky vessel]

ahaha this weeks liquid morkite is TERRIBLE. probably worst liquid morkite i've ever seen

[final ermine]

my first attempt went horribly but imma blame that on rng because i encountered like 10 menaces, there was basically always one shooting at me. 2nd attempt going good, only got downed twice and the first time was because the physics glitched and threw me against the wall and insta killed me

[trail pivot]

fungus two months ago was bad too

wrose maybe

the third pump was like 200 meters up bad terrain

[final ermine]

as a driller main i simply drill to the wells

[lime meteor]

It's so much easier to

[queen patrol]

industiral sabotage is truly one of the missions ever

oh its one of these refineries

[final ermine]

i like industrial sabotage but being in DD's makes me want to not play driller all together, and being dis-incentivized from playing my favorite character for a mission that lasts a whole week just sucks, idk how but i want driller to be more useful in industrial sabotage

[dusky mauve]

Driller is very useful by just throwing c4 on the caretaker

2x will push it to the next phase

[final ermine]

idk if i'd call that very useful, as scout i can do a very similar thing by grappling on top of it and using tri-shot volley to clear the vents in one shot each, but as scout i dont need to drill above it, its more ammo efficient, and i can shoot the arms/eyes better

[limpid pond]

1. Max damage Satchel one-shots all vents.

[trail pivot]

there isn't a whole lot else to do with drill fuel in sabotage.

and you can find a tunnel near to the ceiling of the main chamber

[limpid pond]

Industrial Sabo is literally Driller's strongest mission. What you're describing is someone standing on a moving object and dumping their secondary ammo while being shot at to do what Driller can by quickly running up and pressing 4 and M1.

[trail pivot]

some people want to use a zipline or use a platform bridge to funnel c4, but these are unsafe solutions that leave you vulnerable to snipers, shredders and patrol bots, let alone the caretakes shields and arms.

just make the tunnel at the start of the mission and waypoint it for later.

[spiral depot]

Just have a good scout to take care of snipers and bots

[limpid pond]

Platform bridge is faster and safer what

[final ermine]

im never shot at as scout up there personally, i clear vents a bit slower, but then can help out significantly better for the eye phase. i'd say drillers best mission is morkite refinery as you can drill directly to the wells

[limpid pond]

Impact Axe one shots appendages, plus you torch all Rival Tech to kill them faster than anyone else. And you still have Explosive Reload to handle Snipers and the Caretaker's eye. This is on top of cutting the fight length in half by Satcheling the vents to instakill them.

[final ermine]

in terms of insta killing robots with fire, my experience would be holding down m1, getting them maybe 1/3 of the way to on fire, before my gunner friend would hit them with 3-4 hurricane missiles and kill them faster then i could. i didnt know axes one shot appendages because i normally run neuro-toxin. and i wouldn't say the vent stages take up half the boss fight in my experiences. the eye phases usually last way longer. also even if he does instakill the vents he's not the only good vent killer

i have a much easier time with caretaker as scout then i do as driller

[limpid pond]

Are you using Face Melter with T2 Heat and T5 Heat Radiance?

[final ermine]

for this DD i was trying something new, i was using 21112 flame thrower with sticky flames. not the best but i wasn't expecting I.S.

i think normally i use 22332 with fuel stream diffuser, idk i dont change up my OC's or gear mods often

[limpid pond]

No ammo mods⁉️

[final ermine]

not this time, like i said i was trying something new, didnt work out lmao

[limpid pond]

No Heat Radiance is why you're not igniting bots fast

Also Fuel Stream Diffuser decreases flow rate and makes igniting slower

[junior plover]

what to do about people kiting bulks into dozer?

[final ermine]

I've never run that because It doesn't describe its self very well imo. As a new player (which I was when I upgraded my flame thrower) enemies exploding is a lot more streamlined and simple

[trail pivot]

whoever the bulk is chasing needs to lure it away

[limpid pond]

Well it's pretty strong. Try it.

[spiral depot]

kite it away from the dozer

[junior plover]

:o is there some way to force aggro on urself?

[spiral depot]

No

Most of everything aggros randomly

By most I mean all but I could be wrong

[final ermine]

i still dont think he's the best at IS, he seems pretty build dependent to do what others can do with any build but a little better. he has some pretty useless options like the microwave, or ice gun (although ive never tried ice gun against the caretaker) and when you're going through a deep dive you may not know you're going into an IS mission

[junior plover]

ohhh okok thanks tho =]

[final ermine]

conveniently enough i have to do an IS mission for weekly core hunt, so ill try the flame thrower mods now lol

[trail pivot]

I believe the bulk will attack the closest person to shoot it, but idk how reliable this is with dorry and 3 other players in the mix.

[final ermine]

just finished the IS mission and it took 2 full damage C4 to clear vents, and the axes were no where near one shotting the arms
i still think scout is a better pick

i needed to use an entire resupply for myself to clear vents

[grim hull]

EDD went smooth this week, stage 1 is a refinery with generous amounts of nitra/easy pumpjack spots
stage 2 is scary on paper but the black box is conveniently located in a tight hallway so mactera werent too bad
debated skipping stage 3 since i hate drilldozer missions but it only had one stop in a room brimming with oil shales, fun over all!

W week, even got a good mod for my hurricane

[limpid pond]

How close is it to killing the vents? It definitely should one-shot or near one-shot.
You sure you weren't missing for the appendages? You have to hit their head to do it.

[glossy walrus]

it can't one shot on haz4+ 4p scaling, just not possible even without damage falloff

[final ermine]

like 1/2- 3/4 of the vents hp
and i was not hitting the arms in the head

[glossy walrus]

at 2p scaling it can sometimes happen because that's about half the hp, but at 4 it won't

[final ermine]

but i dont think that would have mattered, the axes did like 1/4 of their hp or less

i was playing haz 3 with 3 ppl

me and 2 others*

[glossy walrus]

that's 495hp, so maybe

but I dunno if the caretaker's 45% explosive resistance applies to the vents or not

I have one shot all 4 vents before, but needs good placement and lower haz/player count

general expectation from me in higher haz/groups is 2 full damage c4 per vent phase, so yeah you do need to burn an entire resupply by yourself

engie does it cheaper with 1 resupply of fatboys per phase or even less of explosive platforms, but the latter is a lot more effort

just it's way more useful in the rest of the mission(s)

[limpid pond]

The hell?

[final ermine]

and i be one shotting vents as scout with trifock volley with the same haz/player scaling

[trail pivot]

is it actually safe to stand on the caretaker?

[final ermine]

yes

as long as you can get off safely (ive died to fall damage before)

[trail pivot]

would have thought it's electrical attack would electrify it's surface

[final ermine]

nope

pretty chill up their because the arms dont attack me, but i may just be getting lucky

[limpid pond]

Okay, just tested for myself. What the fuck, on Haz 5 4P it only does half the vent's health

Fat Boy is even worse at it

Engi dumping his entire secondary is definitely worse than Driller dumping all C4s...

[glossy walrus]

I've been able to pretty consistently take it down with 3 fatboys, so only one resupply which is better than c4's 2

[limpid pond]

Plastcrete Catalsyt seems, even worse than the other two...

[glossy walrus]

it's more effort because yo uhave to get the platforms right over the head

but it's way more ammo efficient than either of the other two and way more useful for the rest of the stage

it is pretty finicky getting the platforms close enough to the vents without having them destroyed though

these days I just run fatboy now out of laziness

[tall meadow]

You guys use platforms?

[limpid pond]

Yeah I don't think Driller eating two clips every phase is practical. Surely blowing half the vents' health is still good...

[glossy walrus]

it's fine in IS by itself since you tend to get a lot of nitra, so dedicating one resup to the driller is usually fine

much harder to say when it's s2 of an EDD

s3 sure w/e you're drowning in nitra by that point anyway

[tall meadow]

How so ? IS in EDD still has sufficient amount of nitra wether or not it is on s2 of EDD or s1 even

[verbal pewter]

How many bulk dets on EDD

[tacit jungle]

this week's EDD is a little spicy, failed it two times already :/

[tall meadow]

Would offer to do it with you

But currently outside

[distant mural]

bro every week has a industrial now

at least its not on the elite dive

[tacit jungle]

appreciate the offer, I'll probably find some high level randos in-game

[tall meadow]

IS is no longer the IS we used to have back when it was the previous seasons

[distant mural]

i know but its still annoying to do

[tall meadow]

You will do it and you will enjoy it

Not having fun is not an option

[distant mural]

ive done more industrials then i have in season 1 and 2 combined

in like a week

[tall meadow]

Kek

[tall meadow]

All good mate

[distant mural]

arnt the primarys of stage 2 and 3 the same as last week for the regular DD?

[tall meadow]

Will help run EDD for some other folks again soon

[tall meadow]

Previous IS had low O2

[distant mural]

it did?

[tall meadow]

Secondary objective also differed

Yes

[distant mural]

man that must of sucked 💀

no wonder i skipped it last week

[tall meadow]

Nah its DD, it was definitely fine for most folks

Nitra is abundance as usual if you gather all of them

So oxygen all around if needed

[distant mural]

low o2 is the only hazard i try to avoid

cause i forget about it half the time

[tall meadow]

It be that way sometimes

I don’t mind doing it even till now but it’s just annoying yes

[tacit jungle]

o2 is a nice puzzle to exercise collective thinking

swarmageddon when nobody brought war crimes is the real chore

[distant mural]

ive seen so many people forget about low o2

then just wonder how they died

[tall meadow]

Next time just tell them they died from the ghost bug stuck on their body

A new myth will then be born

[tacit jungle]

ah yes the rare ghost glyphid

[distant mural]

the caves are haunted

with ghost glyphids

[tall meadow]

Exactly

Good mentality

[distant mural]

only karl can see them

cause its karl

[tall meadow]

GSG, Ghost Glyphid mutator when

[distant mural]

that would be just agony

deep dives but they can have 2 hazards

[verbal pewter]

13 REVIVES, NO DOWNS

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/792871073002684457/1045933429239324683/image.png?width=1148&height=504

[woeful niche]

dd or edd

[final ermine]

making karl proud

[verbal pewter]

EDD

Was hellish on the escort pit stop

[severe tusk]

So I played with the new Bullet Hell a bit, and it actually feels pretty good now and is fun.

[lavish kestrel]

Industrial sabotage again

[halcyon torrent]

when the sagotage is industrial

[lavish kestrel]

Indeed indeed

[severe tusk]

I guess I am one of the rare people who enjoys Industrial Sabotage.

[lavish kestrel]

I don’t mind it on engie or scout, but my engineer isn’t promoted so I have to pick between scout or driller

Which is…not fun

It’s just frustrating cause I feel like I’ve played more industrial sabotage this season then I ever had to In the previous one

[ancient cove]

I enjoy it more than Elimination or Escort

[severe tusk]

Flame Driller is pretty good on Industrial Sabotage. Overheat the robots and tentacles and throw axes at the eye. If you have the Supercooling Chamber mod for the M1000, Scout can do insane damage vs. the Caretaker and one-shot patrol bots.

And elimination is maybe my favorite mission type 😄

[turbid dawn]

You forget fat boi engi

[halcyon torrent]

elimination is fun but i hate hive guards

[edgy topaz]

Well got to stage 3 of the edd, first dotty stop, two bulks and god knows how many other bugs, driller had been guiding us thus far through the EDD and as soon as he went down he ragequit here

We actually stabilised at one point and probably would have been able to complete it if he didnt do that but oh well

[glass echo]

Ouch, I hate when people do that, had the exact same situation in a haz 5 mission and thankfully we managed to complete it

It's not over until it's over

Sorry your EDD failed

[edgy topaz]

I'm not too bothered about the third stage its only a cosmetic item 😄

Got double barrel overclock from second stage which is a bit meh

[manic coral]

The way I handled the third stage of the EDD, my group actually left the drilldozer in the box while the Driller (myself) dug ahead to clear out the caves to be safe. Though after we fixed the mini mules, we started up the run. It's not too bad as long as you have one person dedicated to clearing out the exploder swarms before they get within dangerous range.

Though since it was my first shot at the stage, I didn't know where to drill and it was mostly a lucky guess or a few. Though it seems that the idle state of the drilldozer is generally aimed at where it wants to dig first.

[severe tusk]

She said she only had Scout and Driller promoted.

[mighty beacon]

wtf is this stage 3 deep dive...

i was trying to do sub 45 mins for the achievement but this is the worst refining setup ive ever seen in hundreds of hours

[placid flame]

somehow this comment makes me want to play it now

[mighty beacon]

just play driller or engi. its so bad

[halcyon torrent]

youre lucky if thats the worst youve seen

[mighty beacon]

the refinery is in the deepest pit of the cave surrounded by very high walls

i dont see how it could be much worse for my class

[halcyon torrent]

a deep refinery is better than a high refinery

i agree that it was annoying tho

[mighty beacon]

its just coupled with the fact that stage 2 was a caretaker, and 2 sub reqs were black boxes

really time consuming objectives the moment i try to go for the achievement lol

very annoying

[placid flame]

I think it would be better if caretaker could only be stage 3, has somewhat of a final boss feeling

[manic coral]

The EDD is ironically easier if you want to go fast, as long as you're prepared to fight double or triple swarms on stage 2 while opening a black box. On second thought don't do this.

Double swarm Mactera is already bad enough.

[celest sluice]

Haha I did it with a bud yesterday. Cryo driller and minigun gunner works great at shredding the hell out of mactera. We sailed through it.

[dusky mauve]

Worst refinery mission I ever had took like 40mins the refinery was below ground in a bucket and all 3 wells were under the ceiling in weird pockets with no natural access

Scout gunner gg no re

[hollow citrus]

DD refinery maps are just uniquely bad most of the time

[gusty meteor]

Still can get fun ones. I remember that giant ass radioactive zone refinery cavern

Not that hard to actually get to the wells. But place was huge

[celest sluice]

Haha yeah that one was fun

[violet mauve]

I remember one DD in Magma Core that concluded on an On-Site Refining mission. 2 of the wells were really hard to reach; one was in a cylindrical pit and the other was extremely high up. The blackbox was also in a very high position. But the worst part was the droppod. That pit? Yeah, turns out there was some stonework in the ceiling and the droppod landed on that. If I didn't have Rocky Mountain beer I couldn't possibly have made it.

But the good thing was that I knew, so when I redid it with some other players I made the tunnel beforehand. I died but everyone else got extracted.

[glossy walrus]

dotty's path to the heartstone is towards the 220 degrees direction on the compass, very nice way to figure out which dir to predrill

[wheat dew]

stage 3 edd was fun af, despite being pure chaos 90% of the time

[manic coral]

The singular bulk detonator I saw was very far away and easily dispatched. But it might be different with four players, I was running it with three.

[flat crest]

Yeah this week's DD refinery and placement of pumpjacks, was def something 😂

[rich beacon]

i remember playing a refinery in the magma biome and it was easily the most vertical cave ive ever gotten

easily 3 second fall from the top to bottom

[steep pulsar]

I redid that DD for fun and my team decided to shoot for the roller coaster achievement.

Oh god exploder infestation on haz 5.5

Poor Doretta.

[manic coral]

The more fun part is that the mission has bulks as possible spawns. The exploders aren't too bad as long as you have someone constantly babysitting the drilldozer.

[steep pulsar]

B I G F E A R

[dawn pasture]

Hello

someone wanna play deep dive elite now?

[grand narwhal]

When is the DRG Xmas event going to begin?

[old widget]

Welcome, miner! You’ll find games over in the various #lfg channels (or you can host your own).

[hoary cipher]

ive had setups like that but I was solo gunner

true pain

[severe tusk]

Yeah, I always go Driller on refining missions, if the team doesn't already have one.

[blazing cave]

How bad is the EDD?

Deep dive was fine aside from the last mission being vertical hell

[old pulsar]

Its honestly fine

[mortal cliff]

It's not hard, rather on the easier side of things

[wraith shard]

What is today's a deep dive task?

[old widget]

Pinned messages has latest dive info. (Ignore the timestamp, it’s edited in place each week)

[wraith shard]

Thanks

[wooden rapids]

no industrial sabatoge or rival presence in EDD this week, sweet

[pale rune]

How do I deal with Bulk Dets on EDD Stage 3 (for solo)? Just had one and wiped my drilldozer :/

[woeful niche]

ask your scout to bring ifgs

also it helps if everyone on the team has at least one decent single target option, which is a good rule for any mission imo

[unique ore]

bulk doesnt attack the drilldozer, it only attacks you so as long as you kite it far away enough, it won't hurt the dozer with the explosions

[pale rune]

Ah my issue was killing it + kiting. Though tbf was a solo driller trying to conserve stuff so prolly should've just used stuff

[fossil tulip]

Repairing the dozer makes it immune to damage for a short time

If you repair it and kill the bulk, should be enough time to keep the dozer safe

[unique ore]

probably not enough time to keep yourself safe, but I guess a drilldozer part for a revive works

[stone lily]

what is the deal with people repairing mules during drilldozer

two EDDs, two wipes in the exact same spot

[crisp geyser]

Dreadnaught spawned first mission

We killed it

[trail pivot]

predrill

[wraith shard]

I found this and deposited but what does it do

oh I cant post image

its the ERR://23*Y%/

From a quick skim its extremely rare but is basically an easter egg, is that right?

[tardy girder]

yeah, error cubes are rare

they give XP and that's about it

[timid elbow]

FML 2nd week in a row host crashed on stage 3 of EDD

[burnt sandal]

pinned message in #drg-chat

[severe tusk]

Yeah, that happened to me a few weeks ago too. And a Driller also trolled everyone and C4ed us all while drilling a tunnel to the drop pod after stage 2 of a DD.

[random raven]

Playing DD with randoms is a real experience, a guy called in 6-7 supply drops on 2nd stage, 3 of them were on 2nd generator

So much wasted nitra

[severe tusk]

You should be to do Industrial Sabotage missions with 4-5 resupplies with a full team, maybe 3 if you are really fast and efficient. My last group actually did this DD with 2 I think, but we were pretty much out of ammo to start the last stage. But I think we had 800+ nitra saved up, so it wasn't an issue.

[random raven]

We only used about 2-3 supply pods during the fight

[severe tusk]

Yeah, using 1-2 resupplies before the caretaker and then 2-3 during the caretaker fight is reasonable.

[cold wraith]

Hello. Got a question. Is any way posible to force spawn the Omen tower, like specific region, or something? Or its fully rng?

[old widget]

No way to force spawn (without sandbox mods), it’s just RNG, but chances are higher for machine event to spawn on longer mission lengths - spawn chance is 15/20/35% for length 1/2/3 respectively

[wraith shard]

i just completed 3 elite deep dive missions, but got no reward, what the hell? is there any reward at least or just nothing?

[woeful niche]

weapon core, blank core, and cosmetic core

if you do the edd twice in the same week you get nothing

edd and dd together give 6 cores per week

[fast stratus]

Well you get the XP and credits but it's usually not worth it after the first dive

But you get the cores only once per week per type of dive

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[warped quiver]

stage 3 regular DD scout on my team started the black box while we were still fighting twins

still finished the mission but lol

[shy nest]

How hard are elite deep dives compared to regular deep dives?

[summer sinew]

DD - 3/ 3.5/ 3.5
EDD - 4.5/ 5/ 5.5

[shy nest]

Fantastic, gonna nope out of that one since I almost lost the regular DD to a on site refinery mission

That mission was awful

[summer sinew]

You need to get used to haz 3

[shy nest]

I am used to it, I just got stuck doing it solo with scout

Making those pipes connect when the main station was at the bottom of a hole was hard

[sage solar]

Well it’s built around team play

If you’re doing solo and know it’s pipe refinery you need to at least play engi or driller

[lofty parrot]

I suggest bringing driller on both dives. The wells are really funky, especially the normal dive

[polar jungle]

since when did people stop running IW on deep dives

[odd heron]

IW?

Oh, Iron Will I presume.

[polar jungle]

yeah

[viscid sage]

last bar on the heartstone in the edd and i fucking dc

i fucking hate this game sometimes

turns out a bulk spawned after i left and they lost

this game is a trip

[wanton knot]

dd went smooth. engie carried on stage 3 with Triple Stacked Pipeline Action!!!

[severe tusk]

Report that menace to society to management.

[wanton knot]

we had no driller, it was acceptable work

[round ruin]

bulk detonator touched the drill dozer's drill at the last stage, one shotted it and made us fail the deep dive 1 and a half hour in

we'll get em next time

[gloomy rose]

Hi, I am fairly new player. Promoted once and done the regular deep dive last couple weeks, I play with roommate, so just 2 of us. tried elite deep dive tonight, and it was rough. died getting to the drop shop after completing the morkite extraction. is it easier with 4 dwarves than 2?

[severe tusk]

It scales according to the number of players, although arguably having each class of dwarf in a game can make things easier overall.

[burnt sandal]

duo is probably easier to some extent, but yeah it scales with player number

[severe tusk]

I personally find Scout and Engi to be the best duo in general, but you guys may not having that option if you are new and don't have those classes promoted.

[gloomy rose]

Those are the two we promoted first. We took a cryo driller (necrosis overclock only) and gunner ( no overclocks I think) tonight as read the pump locations were a bit rough. In hindsight not that much drilling was needed. Just a huge jump from not seeing many bugs in normal deep dive. To Omg will they ever stop

[severe tusk]

Yeah, sometimes you really want a Driller on refining missions, but most of the time an Engi will do just fine. And EDD's can feel rough if you don't win Haz 4 like 9 out of 10 times and/or feel at least fairly comfortable with Haz 5 missions.

[gloomy rose]

Thanks will try work up to it with haz 4

[deft holly]

man something about the last stage of the edd

just

fucking sucks

went 2 runs, first and second stages went by without a hitch on both runs

but that fuckin third phase

i hate

[sly cradle]

the refuelling room of edd stage 3 is massive. U should be able to get a lot of breathing room there and should be able to lead the bulk detonators away from the dozer, but u should kill the spitballer in the corner first

also driller should run cryo

[grave narwhal]

My solo run of this week's standard Deep Dive. Do give it a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWs8oS_YbT8

[deft holly]

That's exactly where my friend and I got fucked over lmao

[sly cradle]

well we ran a full team so i managed to suicide bom bit

then got rescued

[deft holly]

Gunner driller was prolly not the best pair but we had fun

[sly cradle]

eh

long as you get the weapon overclock

[deft holly]

Yeah

[sly cradle]

welp imma go back to my promotion, i still want that extra core hunt

[tacit pollen]

why is driller's cryo so good apparently? im new and i see it a lot in my games

[severe tusk]

Well cryo instantly kills any flying creature which becomes frozen and you and your teammates do increased damage to frozen targets. It's definitely really good, but sludge pump is powerful too, and the flamethrower is also good.

[white osprey]

we tried stage 3 of EDD without pre-drilling and it was pain

the next attempt we pre-drilled and it became ALOT easier

[hardy wedge]

boring

[sly cradle]

cryo can:

1. instantly kill flying enemies (if they freeze they're instantly dead)
2. defuse exploders
   so with the mactera plague and the exploder infestation the cryo is a must for this weeks edd

[dusky mauve]

Must is a bit strong but it's definitely the best load out for driller on it

[burnt sandal]

macteras are also naturally weak to fire and corrosive damage, so anything works really

[distant mural]

They are?

[burnt sandal]

yeah

[trail pivot]

Helllo? Human resources?!

[quaint lake]

https://youtu.be/t31PxuYzFHY

[lusty fiber]

This edd was tough

I did it solo

Used all 4 Bosco revives

And used an iw too

Was very close, but did it in the end

With 12 times being down

[lost jungle]

not doing EDD

💀

[quaint lake]

EDD is kinda beyond insanity, even for me at this point, I have done it with a lighter ruleset, but pure pickaxe only is no way

and the issue with EDD is mostly that there is basically a point where it's too much bug and you can no longer breathe, and it reaches that point pretty fast

[shell lion]

Do someone know what 2nd and 3rd missions in elite deep dive this week?

[past drum]

second stage : dreadnought and escort third stage : industrial sabotage and salvage

[vagrant heron]

Each week, they edit the pinned message in this channel which lists the DD and EDD. Ignore the timestamp. There is also a pinned message that links to a google doc of historical DDs.

[dusky oracle]

so what's the deep dive lookin like

[fathom hollow]

O

[trail pivot]

it wasn't bad, but the thrid stage def wasn't fun either

not like last week

that low gravity osr was a party

[mortal cliff]

Three missions, one after another, hazard 3-3.5-3.5. They restet every week and grant you 3 matrix cores after completion

[dusky oracle]

i was asking about this week's dive

[summer sinew]

I didnt tried this week's dd tho but everyone say refinery is irritating

[vagrant heron]

It is. Managed without a driller though.

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/936495649669677089/1046960057197277184/20221128172406_1.jpg?width=1172&height=660

Bring your kids to work day , but the folks actually did better than many

Especially when it was the last stage EDD

[dusty spindle]

Any weapon suggestions for gunner for normal deep dive?

[burnt sandal]

literally anything

if you're unsure about what you'll have to deal with, I suggest going for the minigun

that way you can deal with anything

[dusty spindle]

Ok

I might stick with the auto rocket launcher thingy

We keep ending up in swarms

But I'll keep the mini on me when I need it

[lone lodge]

Anyone know where the last well is located on stage 3?

nvm, found it

[drowsy holly]

just solo built it as a gunner wasnt hard i didnt need to cut through many walls just one thin one and up a small cliff

[summer sinew]

welp then i think engi can manage that too

[drowsy holly]

built one straight out then through a small wall then circled down into the well. one to the right and up then along wall to well then the third also up but then left and then very windy to the top left one. had to cut up the side of a small cliff. if you have engi plats or a driller it would be much easier because you can take a direct path

also you dont have to fiddle to get it to spiral own to the low middle one with eng plats

[spare kiln]

Level 1731?????

That’s like a little more than 3000 hours

[severe tusk]

I am about half his level, and that checks out.

[prime shore]

yeah it is annoying but just get a driller to drill straight to the pumps and its not so bad

[azure veldt]

Yeah no for sure, first phase ain't too bad if you shift into tunnel mode- Mactera Hell on phase 2 however...

[static sapphire]

is there an elim in this elite?

[thorn jewel]

Pins say no

[wraith shard]

went to a deep dive with randoms and got diffractor instead of breach cutter still first tried https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796677252531486734/1047201782029373460/image.png

[severe tusk]

That scout was a busy boy.

[charred kiln]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/937828725624541254/1047270204981395467/image.png?width=1202&height=676

this edd was a nightmare

[severe tusk]

My random EDD group this week only had a total of 4 downs 😛

[vagrant silo]

This week wasn't too bad but someone knew ahead of time what the challenges were

so our driller brought cryo cannon and that cheesed stage 2 macteras

[urban rose]

how hard are deep dives, generally?

been cautious about getting into them

[limpid pond]

Usually not that much harder than a standard mission for Haz 3 (DD)/Haz 5 (EDD)

[sage solar]

Normal DDs are easy the EDDs can be hard if you’re new and the team sucks while the cave generation is unfortunate

[clear rapids]

is this weeks edd good for a neurotoxin payload/lead spray build?

[limpid pond]

When is it not lmao

[clear rapids]

the regular dd was industrial sabotage on 2nd and mactera plague on the third, pretty bad for that build if you ask me

[limpid pond]

NTP still fears the Mactera, but yeah, Industrial Sabo actually counters it now. Oof.

No bots, so you still auto-win

[sage solar]

Just use NTP it always works lol and if you’re concerned about macteras bring a micro flechettes & stun burst

Always works

Time your fire and you can perma stun quite a lot of enemies

[limpid pond]

I think you would have more fun staring at a wall

[spice edge]

Did this week's deep dive as solo scout, worst decision I've made. That last mission took nearly 30 minutes of just building the damn pipes.

[languid rune]

doing DDs as solo scout is asking for trouble; doing a DD with an OSR mission is even worse

RIP

[swift mural]

this week's deep dive wasn't awful. ran it as engi with a friend on scout and we actually got the achievement to complete a deep dive in under 45 mins

prob helps that we managed to do the first egg hunt in 7 minutes

[languid rune]

nope, not bad at all. the first mission can be done in 5

[swift mural]

yeah

hardest part was building the pipes on the on site refining lol

thank god for platforms

not as good as a driller but they get the job done

[languid rune]

terrible rig spawn

[worldly turtle]

I did my first deep dive today, as solo gunner, was not nearly as brutal as I was expecting

I definitely could have done it in under 45min if I didn't obsessively grab every single mineral

it was still a lot of fun though, and I really need those blank matrix cores

[sage solar]

Well he asked for effectiveness ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[severe hedge]

If you just got into the game, and you play mainly solo, what is the most useful character?

Or are they all equally useful when played solo?

[random rampart]

theyre about equal, yes. they all got their mobility options, but in terms of firepower you gotta choose the style you want.

also this channel is for deep dives, not for regular game stuff lol

[severe hedge]

Oh my bad lol

[random rampart]

we can continue to talk about this in #drg-chat if you want

[severe hedge]

Sure

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[wraith kraken]

[deft holly]

hoarder gameplay

right there with you buddy

[wraith shard]

Wait

So you’re saying

That the deep dive

Is like.. an hour long

[random rampart]

can be more

edds can be longer

[wraith shard]

Still need to do it..

What’s like

The goal

During a deep dive

[random rampart]

complete both shown objectives for that stage, and you can proceed to the next. at the end of a successful 3rd stage you win the deep dive

gold and nitra go to the next stage

[wraith shard]

Oooooh okay

[random rampart]

deep dive rewards are only rewarded once per week

so you cannot get more that week if you succeeded in that stage

1st stage is a weapon oc, 2nd stage is a cosmetic, and 3rd is a blank

regular deep dives' difficulties are 3/3.5/3.5 and elite deep dives' are 4.5/5/5.5

[dim snow]

not quite i believe

first stage is blank core then weapon then cosmetic

[languid rune]

yup, this

[gray panther]

How is this week's edd?

[languid rune]

pretty easy IME

[marsh quest]

I just died because dotty ran a bulk over

[wraith shard]

Stage 3 exploders + Bulk detonator could be annoying

Otherwise, there's a BUNCH of nitra. I ended up having 8 resups for the heartstone lmao

on Driller solo

[tulip idol]

Leave her at 98% repair and be ready to get it to 100, right before that case. You'll get a few secs of Dotty invulnerability this way.

[lime meteor]

Doretta takes friendly fire

you can do that and repair

assuming drill dozer isn't getting constantly damaged already

[past drum]

boring

[green mango]

Hi, i was wondering i did my first deep dive can the forge reroll or do i have to take what's in it to get another one ?

[fierce sparrow]

If i understand the question right, you can have several overclocks at once, so if you don't want to forge that specific one you can still get others

[green mango]

Ok thanks

[fierce sparrow]

You only get the deep dive rewards once a week tho, the time until next mission should be on the deep dive mission panel

[worldly turtle]

Are the deep dive and elite deep dive two separate things with their own rewards, or is it just a difficulty selection?

[severe tusk]

They have different stages and you can get rewards from both of them.

[old widget]

Yeah. Two completely separate things.

[lime elk]

а здеся руские есть?👉 👈

[shell lion]

yes, but speaking only on english(Есть но разговаривать можно только на английском)

[lime elk]

а ну с моим англ мне тут не быть

[wintry mist]

just got the worst map generation ever for the liquid morkite stage of this deep dive

station was at the bottom of a hole, and 2/3 geysers were in a hole on the ceiling

[fierce sparrow]

isn't map generation standard for everyone for deep dives?

[old widget]

Per platform, at least, yeah. Enemies can change positions but mapgen is same for a given DD seed and platform (PC, XB, PS, etc.)

[lavish wave]

just had the most toxic bunch of deep divers ive ever laid eyes on

cant believe people play this game like that when its 100% coop

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[lavish wave]

need help lol

havnt been able to complete the 3rd el;ite DD

[azure lance]

Same rofl

[iron helm]

Same!

Looking for an EDD team. Have now failed stage 3 twice to bulks.

Xbox

[proven mango]

whats the current EDD? the 3 stages?

[frank viper]

pinned, gets updated weekly

[proven mango]

2021

oh the doc duh

found it

refining, egg, escort
hmm

about to do a practice run of my first solo edd, wish me luck 🤞

⛏️

[languid viper]

Anyone have tips for doing EDDs fast?? Not speedrunning but more like, I need to get it done cause it's too slow before the chronic migraines kick in

[frail patrol]

play for objectives? idk what else there is to say

[languid viper]

Me when I'm doing fine and then suddenly I'm dying

[spare verge]

last stage of the edd
we pre-drilled to the heartstone
found 2 bulk dets next to each other
later when we took dorry to the heartstone during the final phase
two more bulk dets spawn
we lost both treads to one bulk
heartstone drilled, the other bulk survived the blast
managed to kill it but it took down engi and gunner
revive them, another horde spawn
had to quickly store the stone and call the pod
fight our way back
no more bulks thank god
escape
all this for a goddamn beard

also bcs it was an exploder infestation modifier, and the amount of swarm spawning in, we literally keep calling a resupp every 30s bcs everyone was fighting for their lives spraying in every direction

[lavish wave]

i need help still

ive done EDD 5 times now

failed all

[vague kite]

to the last stage im guessing?

[lavish wave]

3x to the 2nd stage, 2x to the final stage

bulk detonator first time, and then a teammate going back for supply pods at the last moment

we were about to mine the stone

just went out on his own lil adventure

i wish the hour of time i spent could be back

anyone wanna help me

[tacit ravine]

I'm collecting a crew for the EDD. Wish me luck, boys. Rock and Stone.

NGL, I'm not really counting on beating the last stage. I'm just in it for the first two.

[soft token]

if i wanted to be funny and run both Bullet Hell and Magic Bullets on my gunner

what build should i use for them?

[glossy walrus]

if you're soloing, you can pause to take a break. harder in mp. you can take a break between stages on the results screen as it doesn't advance until someone hits go, but everyone has to be on the same page beforehand to not hit the button

[languid viper]

I do mp cause I do NOT trust my skills for soloing on anything other than haz 1

[lavish wave]

we finally did it

[languid viper]

So guys we did it

250,000 subs

[harsh timber]

reeeeeee my EDD just had a network error

gpt disconnected right at the end of the first stage

[harsh timber]

apparently i'm not allowed to do the EDD

[burnt sandal]

?

[harsh timber]

keep getting DC'd

I can play normal games just fine, but the EDD keeps having network errors

guess I'll try again with the new one tomorrow

[wraith kraken]

soooooooooooooooooooooon

[short bloom]

oh dear lord

not even gonna contemplate trying the last EDD stage

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[quasi sleet]

<t:1669892400:R>

[oblique glen]

🙏 praying for no escort duty

[wraith shard]

🙏 please industrial sabotage swarmageddon

[oblique glen]

that would unironically be more enjoyable

[radiant halo]

hmmm what biomes would be fun

[oblique glen]

sandblasted and radioactive 🥰

[radiant halo]

dense biozone is always fun

please for the love of god no lethal enemies on the edd

[hazy lily]

It's going to be six industrial sabotages

I can feel it

[radiant halo]

especially stage 3

[oblique glen]

anything except Hollow Bough 🙏

[radiant halo]

industrial sabotages aren't awful but god they are so frequent

[hazy lily]

Yeah they're very same-y

[radiant halo]

doing my 3rd promotion of the day at 3am
last mission is a sabo
goes to bed

[severe tusk]

Fungus Bogs, with the entire floor of every stage covered in goo.

[radiant halo]

pov that one deep dive a a couple months ago

[oblique glen]

means bugs would be slow, so that's good

[radiant halo]

that point extraction altered my brain chemistry

[sick lake]

Ive skipped last 2 deep dives just because i cant be arsed to deal with sabo

[oblique glen]

I grinded out my entire scout plat 1 promo in half an hour just to be ready for the deep dive. I will cry if it's escort duty

[sick lake]

Im sitting on 20+ blank cores and only working for cosmetics now. I'll be damned if i put effort into a sabo dive 😅

Especially when xp gain for dives is dog water, my time is better spent cracking away at the season pass

[oblique glen]

showtime?

[sly kettle]

Soon™

[severe tusk]

I think the boss fight with the Caretaker is actually pretty cool. I would not want to do it over and over again, but the amount of people who hate that mission type surprises me.

[sly kettle]

..should be now.

Not sure where the bot is.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[oblique glen]

heh

showtime

[sick lake]

Its just far too time consuming to deal with in a dive imo

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone.

[radiant halo]

showtimes are on the hour!

[oblique glen]

WOOOOO Refinery in radioactive let's go

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Bared Benefit
Stage 1: Refine Liquid Morkite + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 150 Morkite | Haunted Cave Low Gravity
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 2 Eggs | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Weeping Blade
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague
Stage 2: 10 Aquarq + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | Swarmageddon Low Gravity

[radiant halo]

HOLLOW BOUGH .

[fervent minnow]

do i need to restart game to get new dd?

[radiant halo]

ye

[summer sinew]

yup

[sly kettle]

Yep

[fervent minnow]

i c

ty

[radiant halo]

shakes you

[summer sinew]

pls no damn escort in this week

🙏

[wraith shard]

PLEASE no sabo in EDD PLEASE god please NO

[sick lake]

Please no sabo please no sabo please no sabo

[glass echo]

Please stage 3 sabo

[wraith shard]

please no sheild disruption or lethal enemies either

[radiant halo]

there hasn't been a set of dives without sabo since the update so i wouldn't count on it

[wraith shard]

its fine in regular

[sick lake]

Actually i dont mind stage 3 sabo because i can spam resupplies guilt free then

[wraith shard]

but if it's in elite you actually have to try

[radiant halo]

anything is fine in regular tbh i'm at the point where i can handle it

[glass echo]

I don't do EDD, I just want to see the world burn

[wraith shard]

weak

[radiant halo]

i always try to make it past stage 2 for the weapon core

screw the cosmetic

[sick lake]

Got all weapon OCs and never touched an EDD. Dont aim to start today lol

[outer bloom]

Regular DD stage 2: Collect 4 eggs, collect 150 Morkite. Haunted cave and low gravity

[radiant halo]

i've only got about 10 or so weapon ocs left

[radiant halo]

wtf

ty for ur service but what the hell

[wraith shard]

easy lol

[radiant halo]

haunted caves put me on edge

[summer sinew]

hell nah haunted cave

[wraith shard]

low grav is a free stage

[radiant halo]

i be jumpy as hell

[sick lake]

Low grav and haunted cave on easiest objectives? Lol I'll be hittin this dive up

[radiant halo]

low grav can be hard w haunted cave tho u have very little control

[wraith shard]

just dont jump towards it 🧠

[sick lake]

I saw that leaf lovers react. I hope EDD is escort black box mactera, sabo eggs low o2

:|

[oblique glen]

heheheh good luck

[sly kettle]

Not haunted cave D;

At least it's a short egg hunt

In low grav.

Most miserable modifier when playing solo -_-

[radiant halo]

exactly lmao

[radiant halo]

last stage of regular deep dive incredibly sus

no way it's that easy

there's gonna be like 3 spitballers chilling in the room

[summer sinew]

alr scout i choose you

imma dive in it

[sick lake]

This weeks DD looks hot. Imma get me some cosmetics and blank cores, f yeahr

[glass echo]

along with 4 cave leeches

[summer sinew]

and leeches above them

[radiant halo]

yup yup

[sick lake]

Depending on cave gen, this may be a pretty easily speed runnable dive

Still need that finish a dive in x minutes achievement

[radiant halo]

you get past the dirt have have 0 reaction time to a horizontal cave leech grab

my favorite

i've learned now with engi to throw shredders out as soon as a tiny hole is thru the dirt

[oblique glen]

dd3 is 200 morkite, 2 eggs, no modifiers

haven't even ordered a resupply yet lol

chaos

[stark stream]

EDD2: Low Oxygen, 10 Aquarq, 150 Morkite

[outer bloom]

The regular DD is fassssst this week

[radiant halo]

ah, pe low o2

guess i should go driller or scout so far then

[wraith shard]

atleast it's PE and not sabo

[radiant halo]

yet

[wraith shard]

true

i might yet still have to hang myself

[radiant halo]

mmm hazard 5.5 sabo

[quiet mortar]

Don't hold your Breathe yet

[wraith shard]

I have done haz 5 sabo w/ shield disruption and that was a real but stage 3 EDD stakes are so much higher

[radiant halo]

probably a dumb question for a greybeard to ask but can rival presence stack with a sabotage

i'd assume it's like litho and meteorites and can't happen on the same mission

[quiet mortar]

Doubt it, but you never know

[radiant halo]

new fear just dropped

[fast stratus]

10 aquarq low oxy 💀

Looking forward to this deep dive

[wraith shard]

I'll just play scout

[radiant halo]

surely a full scout lobby could pass

[hollow citrus]

low oxy PE sounds like ass

[radiant halo]

it's not awful

[fast stratus]

I would rather suffocate than be in a full scout lobby

[radiant halo]

just pay attention to oxygen and don't go too far without prep

[oblique glen]

wdym full scout is fun

[radiant halo]

true

very annoying in rich atmosphere but fun as hell

[wraith shard]

real and true

[radiant halo]

full engi lobbies are kill hungry freaks i love it

[wraith shard]

how will you collect nitra on the ceiling with 4 engies

[oblique glen]

full engi is so nitro hungry

[radiant halo]

platforms galore

[wraith kraken]

I hope I get the fatboy today

[radiant halo]

fuckkkk it's hollow bough pe

if there's goo everywhere again i'm gonna lose it

[lofty talon]

just bring that one perk

[radiant halo]

elemental?

[wraith shard]

no

[lofty talon]

the one that reduces slowdown

[radiant halo]

oh

[wraith kraken]

Just use Dash

[lofty talon]

unstoppable

[radiant halo]

i was like elemental doesn't work on goo

i getcha

[wraith kraken]

Dashh ignores slowdown

[radiant halo]

i have dash on everyone but scout

[lofty talon]

pretty big waste of dash imo

[wraith kraken]

Dash is always helpfull

[radiant halo]

just hope engi makes stepping stones

[wraith kraken]

Rj go vroom

Thats a lot of 🥚 this week

[radiant halo]

r&d must me low on omelet supplies from the holidays

[frank viper]

This weeks edd is so nice

[wraith kraken]

Big cake for all the dwarves

[stark stream]

EDD3: Swarmageddon, Low Gravity, 6 Eggs and 150 Morkite

[wraith shard]

low grav ez nice ty

[radiant halo]

rock on!

(screaming)

ty muffin and contributors :] gl this week everyone !!

[wraith kraken]

E g g

🥚

[sly kettle]

So many eggs

[quaint lake]

mmm... point extraction with low oxygen

[radiant halo]

in lovely hollow bough no less

i think i will actually go to bed now

[wraith kraken]

Red rock or rocky mountain

[radiant halo]

dives updated but i am managements sleepiest dwarf

[wraith kraken]

Tbh I want a sleep status in DRG

[radiant halo]

rocky mountain on deep dive, rez is 3 hit terrain

[wraith kraken]

Red rock on EDD?

[radiant halo]

slayer stout is a fav of mine on any mission tbh

[wraith kraken]

I dont use pickaxe much

[radiant halo]

red rock couldn't even save me on last stage edd last "week"

[wraith kraken]

I always fail stage 3 EDD

[radiant halo]

my dwarves need good rest fr

[wraith kraken]

Enemy that makes sleepy
Blurs vision n slows or something

[lofty talon]

how hard is dd stage 1 as a gunner?

are the pumpjacks in hard to reach places

[stark stream]

EDD Stage 2 has a bad escape pod spawn. Make sure your Scout makes it.

[lofty talon]

forsen

[wraith kraken]

Rj engi go vroom

A zipline should be able to make it too right?

[stark stream]

Yeah, zipline will work! Our gunner got picked off on the way there so we got to Stage 3 via Scout.

[wraith kraken]

Or engi RJ

Driller has no fast movement eq
Let us use C4 to blast jump

[hazy lily]

Why is this week egg week?

All the stages are just egg hunt

[wraith kraken]

Management Out of omelette

[spark rampart]

Do deep dives vary in different regions? I just entered a deep dive and it's very different from the pin info

[tardy girder]

pretty certain that you'll need to close DRG in order for the dives to actually refresh, otherwise it'll keep using the previous dive

[spark rampart]

I can certainly tell that's a new one

[wraith shard]

just experienced this, our scout was the only one who made it out alive

[spark rampart]

hmmm

maybe it's really old one

yeah

[burnt sandal]

deep dives to not vary depending on region, but they can vary depending on platforms

the one in the pin is the Steam one

also make sure your system clock is synced and that you have restarted the game

[normal geode]

i did it as gunner, very easy locations to pipe to

no mining needed

forsen

[wraith shard]

the EDD is easy

stage 3 would be hard but u have low grav

[wraith kraken]

Rj with low grav sounds fun

[uneven lichen]

Man imagine if your dwarf only made it to the next stage of the deep dive if you actually made it to the drop pod

[fierce sparrow]

nah, if you miss the pod you actually just jump down the hole after the pod

[karmic rain]

Yeah that EDD seems easy maybe even faster than NDD lol

[steel python]

Just got done with this week's DD

Super easy with rocky mountains

Morkite generation is also pretty generous

[old widget]

...this explains so much 😆

[steel python]

It's probably easier too considering the gravity somehow gets drastically lower in the middle stage

[trail pivot]

Is there any documentation on how the mixed objectives in dives affect terrain generation?

[shy karma]

So the missions are mostly eggs and morkite? Not to bad

[steel python]

Yeah, starts off with refining with pretty easy wells and two eggs.
Downside: Lethal enemies, but it's stage 1

Stage 2 is four eggs and 150 morkite with ghost and low gravity with pretty tight tunnels so better go fast.

Stage 3 is reversed stage 2 with morkite being the main objective and 2 eggs. Now warnings or bonuses either, it's a basic mining expedition at that point

[proven mango]

failed stage 2 because supplies nor the minehead was giving me oxygen 💀

[wraith kraken]

love when there is 0 communication in the EDD

[trail pivot]

new meta strat for next season: tunnel up and stand on top of big meteors during swarmer swarms, they'll burn away trying to get to you.

[proven mango]

managed to do stage 2 edd this time, man that was a struggle xd 10 aquarqs low o2
thank you bosco for the 'carry'
🫡

[lucid gorge]

The second stage of the elite dd is brutal

[proven mango]

i struggled ngl 😔
my first time soloing edds this week

taking me a few tries to figure out a balanced loadout htat covers all 3 missions

[proven mango]

omg i did it

i solo'd my fisrt edd 😭

[vagrant silo]

got disconnected from server last stage of deep dive in the last 30 seconds

only hosting my own lobby from now on

[vague kite]

nah

but the third stage

holy shit

failed there 3 times so far

oh wait did it change

yeah it changed nvm then

[proven mango]

2nd stage is 10 aquarq low o2

hollow bough

was rough, i panicked a few times there
so. many. bugs.

just too many for me to take out in the end i just took the cowards way out and started running around the cave letting bosco do all the mining 😆

[lucid gorge]

Failed 2 3 times, won 3rd first try

[vagrant silo]

2nd stage of EDD as solo gunner is probably one of the hardest missions I've ever done

just barely finished it

[proven mango]

2nd stage was rough yeah

congrats miner!

[vagrant silo]

probably won't bother with 3rd stage unless I go in with more people

gunner is honestly insufferable to play solo

yeah you have a lot of bullets but you can't see shit

ever

so it's just an hour of stumbling around in the dark

time to install brighter objects mod and crank up the gamma

[steel python]

I haven't done an EDD myself, but I think this week is not the week to try lol

Low O2 and point extraction?? Oh hell naw

[proven mango]

theres also strongarm to throw your pocket flares further
but yeah this is why i main scout 😆
being able to see the HOARDS of bugs coming at you always helps

[vagrant silo]

it's also 10 aquarq and 150 morkite

[steel python]

Low O2 without molly is terrible enough

Combine that with PE and hollow bough

I'll take detonators on salvage missions instead please

[ivory marten]

Wish me luck on the dive!

[proven mango]

good luck miner! ⛏️

[proven mango]

yeah it realllyyyyyyyyyyyyyy doesnt help that its hollow bough, i think if it was any other biome it wouldnt have been half as hard

[hoary rover]

why the hell is the 2nd mission a haunted cave 😭

I always lose track of the Ghost Detonator and get killed by it

[steel python]

Don't worry, he'll let you know when he's around :)

[proven mango]

yeah just ping it every now and again

[steel python]

Sometimes he leaves the caves with massive tunnels for you to sprint through

[limpid pond]

Magma Core 😩

[magic tapir]

although not advised but if you break off into separate groups if people can easily protect themselves it can pay off as the unknown horror switches between dwarfs but because you're all separated it leaves it in a checkmate as it can never reach you

the travel distance becomes too long so it just walks around trying to get to someone by which point it walks back to go after the other dwarf

[ivory marten]

The Bough is a bitch.

The floor may not be literal lava but the vines really don't help.

[rancid harbor]

How the fuck am i suppose to get to drop pod at the end of EDD2

just pray?

[jaunty wagon]

hey ghostship can create new mission for save dwarf stuck in a cave ????

[unkempt belfry]

just completed elite deep dive with this playing on the youtube music list; https://youtu.be/dVJr71V2670

nothing notable gained from the dive, tho I liked it :P

[trail pivot]

Your driller should be working overtime first and second stages

[ivory marten]

Dive Playlists are nice.

[trail pivot]

Or at least secot.