deep-dive-discussion

[midnight lance]

Elec arc really does carry

[limpid pond]

I still don't get the Electric Arc hype tbh

[midnight lance]

Limited aoe slow

[old widget]

there's a simple mod to bring back old EM behavior, but you gotta host to get that obviously

[fluid cliff]

elec arc doesnt carry but it is an S tier personal defense tool

[hoary cove]

elec arc saves a lot of ammo

really increases stubby’s total damage if u let the dot do it’s thing and tap fire into smaller crowds

[limpid pond]

Yeah but is it "Stubby needs blowthroughs T5 because Electric Arc is so OP" good?

[fluid cliff]

what

I run damage stubby with elec arc instead of 50 ammo

it melts

kinked is right about the ammo aspect

it’s just useful in general for most enemies

and damage stubby does respectable dps at an impressive range

[limpid pond]

This was something a massive balance overhaul mod did, citing that as the reason

[fluid cliff]

I mean sure

I don’t use balance mods

I will saying running dmg stubby with and without elec arc I have noticed a very large difference

I wouldn’t find blowthrough as useful tbh

wouldn’t be that hot with tap firing

[brave lodge]

electric arc is so cool

if ur sentry placement is good enough it just completely demos swarms

especally w lure

oh i mean em discharge

[fluid cliff]

electric arc is the t5 stubby mod

not an OC

[soft token]

fellas is 13111 Goo Bomber Special good for this weeks EDD?

[manic pivot]

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[jolly hazel]

sure

[hazy shuttle]

i kinda wish there was more weekly content

[trail pivot]

no union events

[brave lodge]

yuh

[gray panther]

IS that EDD terrible for everyone or is it just me

[brave lodge]

i found it easy like most ppl in chat

[deft rapids]

i didn't like the map gen for the EDD much, but it wasn't that bad otherwise

one of the leeches can grab you at like a 70 degree angle from a room you aren't even in, due to a small hole in the path. conveniently comes with a spitballer nearby. that was probably the worst part

[pine vigil]

question

what if zombie miner bosses are in the next season

[hollow citrus]

infected dwarves as enemies

[pine vigil]

Bingo

what if we see carl?

Oh (sorry wrong channel hope you enjoyed my ramblings)

[dry stone]

just finished deep dive on solo driller

Defending dottie was rough though

[hoary cove]

try it with scout next

[dry stone]

I tried my first deep dive with a scout

mistakes were made

made it through the first level, but then had to take out two dreadnoughts + grab aquarqs on dive 2

ran out of bullets

[edgy topaz]

Hi, you know how you get cores for completing deep dive missions? Is that only the first time per each week or everytime?

[burnt sandal]

one time each week, per dive

(AKA normal deep dive and elite deep dive)

[edgy topaz]

Ok, makes sense, guess I'll do the elite one tonight

Better find a good team for it 😆

[wraith flame]

If you dont, then randoms are generally fine enough for it. They are usually great.

[twilit wraith]

Just did the EDD as solo scout, a bulk spawned during the black box on stage 1

was not fun

[severe tusk]

It could have been worse. It could have been an elite bulk.

[twilit wraith]

true

[jagged plaza]

Hello! I want to go on my first deep dive, should I focus on ammo efficiency?

[hoary cove]

no

[jagged plaza]

Why not?

[hoary cove]

the only time u might worry about ammo efficiency is on a really hard 4p edd, but usually ammo shud not be a problem due to ammo carrying between stages

u can do the dd and even edd with alot of extra nitra most of the time

assuming u mine most of it

[jagged plaza]

Okay, thanks.

[brisk pagoda]

basicly the only time youll have ammo issues in a dd is if the first stage has all the nitra in the last room

[jolly hazel]

or if your teammates double dip

+ammo builds are usually the most efficient total damage output-wise anyways

so there's really no reason not to build for max ammo capacity

unless you get crazy weakpoint stuff going

[fluid cliff]

unless you want to be actually useful

max ammo builds are max meme

[hoary cove]

damage is usually better cus if it’s similiar total damage for much less dps the first one is always better

it’s why everyone raves about ls ls and no one talks about compact feed mechanism despite having close total ammo

they both are good but imo lsls is just a lot better

[jolly hazel]

nobody talks about compact sneed mechanism because of the rof decrease, which i guess increases fire time even more

huh going through the gunner mods I think he can take ammo/mag size and not have it matter too much

[hoary cove]

this doesn’t change my point

[fluid cliff]

yeah that misses the point entirely

[fluid cliff]

as does this

[hoary cove]

same reason dmg is better then ammo most the time, if ur landing shots and the total dmg is similiar, dmg is just better

[jolly hazel]

total dmg is usually pretty skewed for classes not named gunner

[hoary cove]

wdym

[jolly hazel]

ugh karl.gg changed its ui

to not have total damage available in stats

[hoary cove]

f

not like it’s that important anyways

[jolly hazel]

how so

[hoary cove]

unless an oc has noticeablely bad ammo consumption, the game is just not that punishing for bad ammo management

[fluid cliff]

skewed in what way

[hoary cove]

i screw around with friends all the time on haz 5 with dum not meta builds and we still get nitra to spare often

[tall meadow]

flashbacks to that one time someone going nuts on me for bringing dmg instead of ammo on burning hell build

[jolly hazel]

idk some of the "special" players i get matched with run out real quick

[fluid cliff]

but you don’t need to

[jolly hazel]

skill obviously matters more lol

[fluid cliff]

why are you worried about randoms

[soft prairie]

#drg-chat

[jolly hazel]

I can fuck around with whatever I want in haz 5 too

[hoary cove]

ok back to edds, u def don’t have to worry both ammo then

[jolly hazel]

you'd think so!

[fluid cliff]

I take no ammo mods in to EDDs and don’t run out

bullets dealing more damage means you use less bullets

[jolly hazel]

driller was "accidentally" double dipping this(?) week

assume the worst

[fluid cliff]

I only run out when kinked throws me in a game with his friends and literally nobody gets nitra the entire mission

[jolly hazel]

oh I see why you got so defensive now lol

[hoary cove]

cus it’s funni to panic

[tall meadow]

don't worry, I tell him off for that

[hoary cove]

u guys just cramp my style smh

[tall meadow]

I cramp it when you're the scout, the nitra is all in your pockets and not in molly smh

[fluid cliff]

I mean no, you can’t really argue math

it’s just math

[jolly hazel]

math says ammo is more efficient

warthog 1k dmg increase with ammo mod

[fluid cliff]

it usually is

marginally

that’s irrelevant

[jolly hazel]

you just said math

🤨

[hoary cove]

not telling the full story, dmg increases the range and chance you will one shot with hog

[jolly hazel]

stubby is 100 difference

[fluid cliff]

chuck you need to let go of the total damage thing friend

it’s not a relevant metric for this game

[hoary cove]

if i have to shoot twice instead of once due to the enemy i’m shooting for ex

same goes for m1

actually m1 is a bad ex, cus ammo is better breakpoints for grunts. Hipster wud be better cus dmg let’s you 1 tap grunts

[jolly hazel]

you just said "math" when the math favors max ammo for total dmg lol

[fluid cliff]

bruh

killing things faster means you get nitra faster and have less swarms

cmon man

[trail pivot]

gamma can be kind of a pain with ammo

[fluid cliff]

having a marginal amount less total damage is beyond superfluous on most guns

[jolly hazel]

or you could say applicability and be correct

[hoary cove]

if mactera dies in 1 shot instead of 2 due to dmg mod, dmg becomes more efficient

[fluid cliff]

way more efficient

[hoary cove]

there’s more things to consider

[fluid cliff]

damage hits important breakpoints on loki on all OCs

aside ecr

[hoary cove]

also if the difference isn’t big enough damage might just be nicer for more dps when the extra ammo isn’t needed, cus once again this game gives alot of ammo

ammo is a good cushion if u don’t feel confident in ur aim but it’s def not required or even always the best for being efficient

[fluid cliff]

kill bugs faster

ez game

[hoary cove]

and once again, fuck efficiency ima go use fat boy

[jolly hazel]

everything in this game kills bugs fast if you arent bad lol

[fluid cliff]

you are just avoiding the point entirely

I concede

you are right

[hoary cove]

minigun dmg mod is pretty big tho for ex

[jolly hazel]

tbqh i honestly don't think lsls lives up to the hype

[fluid cliff]

nobody is out here defending total damage as a valuable metric in 2022

it was the bees knees 2 years ago

[jolly hazel]

exhaust vectoring feels a lot better to me

[next pebble]

[fluid cliff]

fun time over

[limpid pond]

This stage one is fucked up bruh

I LOVE BULKS ON UPLINKS WITH LESS THAN 4 PLAYERS!!!

[deft holly]

i solod edd as gunner

was not fun

almost failed first phase cuz of how tight the tunnels are

gotta love it when they put the black box in a room the size of a shoe locker

at least the dreads did funny in phase2

both of them spawned stuck

basically free-killed the classic

[tired hedge]

does the elite deep dive also give cores?

[summer wigeon]

yes

[tired hedge]

ok i should do that

as ive done the normal one

[summer wigeon]

the edd is haz 4.5 to 5.5 though, be carefull

[tired hedge]

eh its fine

i normally play haz 4

[brave lodge]

you'll struggle

[summer wigeon]

also, the first pin in this channel is a list of the objectives and warnings

its updated weekly

[brave lodge]

actually this edd is probably easier

[tired hedge]

it looks ez

the modifiers dont look that bad

[brave lodge]

do it

[tired hedge]

ill do it tommorow

there's still 2 days left

[modern moat]

RNG just fucking with me in this EDD

they just spawn an elite Glyphid Detonator

the bloody thing is fast

also is big bertha really worth to use in EDD ?

[unkempt lantern]

yeah

big bertha and hellfire coil gun are my standard EDD loadout

[modern moat]

I died to the Glyphid Bulk Detonator lol, playing solo and that thing spawn with elite modifer RIP

First time I saw a Bulk Detonator move that fast

[lapis trellis]

This isn't pertinent to beneficial discussion, but I want to say I just finished my first ever DD and EDD back-to-back, and I'm so happy.

[modern moat]

Good Job, it is quite a fortune that your first EDD didn't have weird map lol

trust me sometimes they spawn a hellish map to solo

[lapis trellis]

I'm looking forward to the crazy!

[lament coral]

I like to do my edds first, and then the dd to relax
But congrats!

[lament musk]

actually ideal for a gunner tho
you're looking here, or there, and it's a cinch to cycle between shields and grenades/coilgun shots

[keen patio]

Hey, I was in that game! I was the driller

[lapis trellis]

How did I do? That was my first time!

[keen patio]

Pretty good honestly, better than my first lol

[lapis trellis]

Awesome! Would you like to run again with me sometime?

[keen patio]

Sure! I'll add you when I get on tomorrow

[lapis trellis]

Awesome! I'd love that.

[solar schooner]

why is total damage not a valuable metric in your opinion? i dont understand you

[fluid cliff]

because usually the dps option is very close in total damage to the ammo option and it’s usually smarter to take the dps option and be more useful in the immediate

ammo isn’t a limiting factor in this game near as much as people want it to be

on top of this with a lot of weapons the damage option will cause you to hit breakpoints that make it even more efficient than the ammo option

[solar schooner]

1.Ammo option increases total dmg a lot and I can show you the numbers.
2. Not taking dmg option vs taking dmg option doesn't have much impact on "how useful" you are in combat except mentioned breakpoints (for example hipster needs dmg + 125% zoom dmg for one shotting grunts). Speaking of hipster plus ammo shotgun, I think it is really useful for team if scout can skip ammo drop because of insane ammo efficiency with this setup, don't you agree?
3. Nobody is saying that ammo is a limiting factor. People just appreciate the value of ammo efficiency and consider it as a factor choosing their loadout.
4. Yes, breakpoint dmg a very important factor too, but not every weapon needs it.

[wintry drum]

ammo efficiency means more pew pew

therefore better

[solar schooner]

I didn't even mention other benefits of ammo over dmg like less overkill dmg, misses are less costly etc

[fluid cliff]

I disagree

[solar schooner]

You disagree with everything I said?

[fluid cliff]

I said usually

not always

there are exceptions

[solar schooner]

I would argue that going for dmg mod is the exception but okay, I just showed you that in fact IT IS a valuable factor

You have your way of building, that's cool

[fluid cliff]

just not nearly as valuable as people want it to be

[solar schooner]

I understand your opinion and I disagree, but thanks for discussion

[fluid cliff]

🤝

[swift jacinth]

how easy are the deep dives this week? Can I solo them as driller with no ocs?

[rapid bone]

You can always do that

You can also always die in a very deep cave

[radiant halo]

how is the edd this week? done the deep dive a few times but the warnings on the edd have stopped me until now

[raven grove]

Can you handle haz5?

If yes, you can do the EDD.

[open ledge]

where did DD and EDD posts go?

havent been here in a minute

the ones that show what the objectives and modifiers are

[lime meteor]

Edd is pretty easy past the blackbox

There's a high chance a bulk spawns on the black box

[urban snow]

it's pinned

[urban snow]

EDD honestly felt like a normal DD to me this week. The blackbox was the only part things got hectic

Joining with randos usually goes pretty well, give it a go

[radiant halo]

friend and i got to the last stage and i just couldn't get rid of all the bugs as scout

went pretty well up until that tho, not too bummed about missing the cosmetic but if i find a public lobby later today i might as well just try again

[small nacelle]

I did the EDD instead of the DD first by accident

and didn't realize until I went to do the "EDD"

[brave lodge]

lol

[night knoll]

in a deep dive w/5 people

sadly just lagged out of it on part 2

[brave lodge]

how

[night knoll]

no idea, but it was funny while it lasted

[small nacelle]

there's a glitch where if the 4th and 5th persons join and the server acknowledges both at the same time, it won't know what to do so it lets both in

[radiant halo]

this can be prevented by having the host turn on late joining in their settings which is essentially the class locking

[summer wigeon]

why would you want to prevent it though

more friends

[frozen field]

anybody else immediately lose the EDD because a bulk spawned on the black box

[urban snow]

A lot of people. But also remember that the black box can be failed and restarted (unlike the uplink from salvage ops)

[tacit jungle]

I've seen it go either way. Decision logic for bulk spawn on objective is really simple: stay out of attack range, kite if he's after you, go back to capture zone if he isn't

[fluid cliff]

step 1: do not die

step 2: kill bugs

step 3: ????

[wanton knot]

edd was fun. we popped both swarm eggs at the end and all went down lol

still made it

[bleak dagger]

Edd was wack on occasion

[manic pivot]

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Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[midnight musk]

I did my 1st EDD today with some high levels and they all kept dying and I had to keep reviving until I have 3 elites me I just gave up

[frozen field]

Damn I didn't know that

We lost twice but the third time we made it all the way thru the dive

[violet mauve]

Wait, really!?

[oblique glen]

Oh well that's nice to know lol

[tired hedge]

stage 3 is brutal

any tips?

[frozen field]

Omg I remember last night I had to clutch like 5 times in a row on the last mission

Honestly we just got lucky

Only thing you can do is be fast

There are 2 swarm eggs

Just put your head down and get all the eggs and gtfo

[lost wing]

I don't believe I saw many oppressors or bulks during that stage so building a bunker or creating choke points for the bugs may not be a bad idea.

[jagged plaza]

I've attempted two deep dives as of now. During both, I DC'd during the middle of the last mission.

[wanton knot]

the 2 eggs that caused swarms were the one on the roof between the main and droppod cave, and the one in the tunnel branching off from the droppod cave. consider popping those separately or last

also im pretty sure my friend was screaming that one of the eggs got popped by the droppod coming in, so staying in the droppod for a sec wouldn't hurt

we had like 4 resups worth of nitra before we got there as a trio, so ammo shouldn't be an issue. hard to resup with all of the fuckin mactera tho

[limpid pond]

The eggs that cause swarms are randomized

[wanton knot]

really? i thought they were seeded

swear they're the same ones every time

[tired hedge]

nope

[wanton knot]

well, then maybe save 2 of the eggs in the main cave for last because the droppod landed in the main cave for us while we were in the droppod entry room

we went down a ton but we made it thru, we all died in front of the pod lmao

triple iron will ftw

after i get home from school imma run the dd stage 1 over and over to see if the egg really is randomized i swear it's been the same egg when ive run it before

ok yeah it isnt the same egg

but imma keep testing to see if it's the number of eggs popped that triggers a swarm, i've had the 3rd egg trigger a swarm twice so far

3 times in a row now

ok no its completely randomized

that first egg triggered a swarm y'all right

[minor bloom]

The number of eggs tells you how many swarms you will get total. 4 eggs is 1 swarm. 6 eggs is 2 swarms. And 8 eggs is 3 swarms. @wanton knot

[wanton knot]

i was experimenting with which egg causes a swarm, which is completely random even on the dd. ran dd stage 1 like 4 times and it was random which egg caused the swarm (since it has 4 eggs only 1 of them would cause a swarm)

[minor bloom]

Ah OK, should've read further up the chain.

[brave lodge]

is lainus a ftl refrence

[minor bloom]

It is

[brave lodge]

epic

[soft token]

anyone wanna team up for the EDD for some last minute cores?

[echo storm]

im ready

oh nvm

lol

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[limpid pond]

Man, EDD randoms are built different
Me finishing the EDD with 41 revives on top of someone Fat Boy teamkilling is no fun

I milked the absolute maximum value out of Deflection Dets and IFGs, stuff like this is why I never go off-meta for Dives

[rich siren]

Died on the final stage of EDD, i had 37 revives and my random scout had 63 downs🙃

[limpid pond]

I feel your pain

[sly kettle]

Hmm.. The console folks won't get season 3 until like two weeks from now. Wouldn't that mean that the Deep Dives between platforms are gonna be completely different too?

[sly kettle]

Might have to make the weekly Deep Dive thread double in size this and next week, in case the differences are too big between platforms.

[glossy walrus]

when it happened with s2, the only thing that was different was that pc side had rival warning on one stage and console didn't

we'll see if the same happens with s3

[sly kettle]

Oh, right.

Don't quite recall.

I don't know how intrusive the plague will be in Deep Dives.

[brave lodge]

prob not

tho i heard rival objectives could be added

no rivals on deep dives in season 2

[sly kettle]

Rivals did exist in the form of a warning, though.

[atomic prawn]

industrial sabo edd gib

[glass echo]

does anyone have an estimation on what difficulty DD and EDDs are comparable to?

I did my first DD this week, first 2 missions felt on the easier side (haz 2) but the last one felt more like a haz 3

I'm a bit scared to jump into an EDD

[ocean spire]

DD should be 4.5, 5, 5.5 haz and EDD is higher by one

[hollow citrus]

3 3.5 3.5 and 4.5 5 and 5.5

[tardy girder]

regular dives are 3/3.5/3.5, while elite dives are 4.5/5/5.5

[glass echo]

Damn, proud of myself for being able to solo haz 3 and 3.5 :) Will deffo do the Lethal assignment and dip my toes into haz 4 and 5 before doing EDD though

Thanks guys :)

[ocean spire]

hm feels alot harder than haz 3

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[sly kettle]

Soon™

[glossy walrus]

ah yeah, if rival stuff is added as an actual objective that would be immensely different

though there is potential it'd just get replaced by a black box or something, will have to see

[sly kettle]

Supposed to be trimmed down and streamlined, aka shorter in length, than the season 2 stuff.

Which is nice.

Never liked Sabotage.

[radiant halo]

i wonder what it would look like because rven though it's going to be shorter you still need to explore the caves for nitra

hoping it's just one generator then or something

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone.

[summer sinew]

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[radiant halo]

here we go!

[sly kettle]

Hm, I was expecting season 3 update to drop before the reset?

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Absolutely Clearance
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + Dreadnought Classic | Rich Atmosphere Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: 200 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Rival Presence
Stage 3: 🔻 Industrial Sabotage + 150 Morkite | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Rocky Fissure
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + Dreadnought Classic | Swarmageddon
Stage 3: 10 Aquarq + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies

WARNING: These are only for Steam, other Platforms are not up to date yet

[severe tusk]

So you can potentially get 2x the cores this week, or what?

[quiet mortar]

Unsure on 2x usual stuff, maybe but I doubt it since it's not a true reset, just an update

[buoyant wedge]

less of a reset, more of a change to how the game interprets seeded values

potentially.

[quiet mortar]

(An Update that affects Deep Dives, which usually causes changes)

[buoyant wedge]

maybe you could check if the deep dives are different on experimental?

[hollow citrus]

given how the next update has sabo in rotation, good chance something might change

[buoyant wedge]

they're adding sabotage to deep dives?

[subtle burrow]

yes

[hollow citrus]

yea

[quiet mortar]

I would but I can't fully trust that's how it'll look on launch, because things are always being tinkered with behind the scenes.

And Ghost Ship could have a Deep Dive seed planned, they've done that before

[buoyant wedge]

interesting

[hollow citrus]

possible. the very first s2 dive was reseeded

to include rival presence

[buoyant wedge]

do we have any further details on what it'd be like when part of the rotation?

[sly kettle]

Sabotage is now shorter, more streamlined. Robots have been nerfed in movement speed and damage, while getting buffed at fire resistance. Can now be "frozen" with cryo weapons to give them a large damage resistance debuff.

[hollow citrus]

it's supposedly a streamlined version of sabo. but on experimental so far it's the exact same as sabo now but longer cos the caves are bigger

I think it's bugged. but on release they might have fixed it

[buoyant wedge]

more fire resistance meaning it takes more to get them to full burn, or they no longer pop on full?

[sly kettle]

Take longer to burn.

[buoyant wedge]

i can work with that

[outer bloom]

When the Halloween update was removed, the deep dives changed slightly, but not considerably. (No more Nemesis spawning on drilldozer, nitra/morkite in different locations, blackbox moved, different enemy spawns)

Will be interesting to see if it's a full reset or just a slight change.

[buoyant wedge]

they also changed slightly when halloween started as well, if i recall correctly

[sly kettle]

Hopefully only minor things like cave layouts change.

Would make it easier for us making lists.

[sly kettle]

Triple threat Elite Deep Dive, huh? Spicy.

[quiet mortar]

Yee, seems pretty nice, not too hard looking either, depends on the Salvage really

[hollow citrus]

5.5 lethal salvage

[summer sinew]

Stage 1 dd is Glyphid dreadnought

[quiet mortar]

Cheers

[summer sinew]

Deep dive 2
Rival presence
collect 225 morkite
2 alien eggs

[sly kettle]

Oh, I can upload update now.

[quiet mortar]

Yee, Update is out, comparing Dives now

Ooo, they look the same!

[outer bloom]

Did anyone get the stage 3 of the DD?

[quiet mortar]

Nevermind, Elite is different

[severe tusk]

it was refinery and morkite

[potent vector]

[summer sinew]

Refinery and 150 morkite

no debuff/buffs

[sly kettle]

I guess that if someone does the Deep Dive(s) now when the update is out, do tell if something's different.

[ocean spire]

stage 3DD -
No oxygen
6 eggs
150 morktite

[sly kettle]

Last week's Stage 3, that is.

Guess you never restarted your game after the reset?

[ocean spire]

when was reset?

[pine epoch]

1 hour ago

[ocean spire]

must have logged in few minutes before

[outer bloom]

Stage 1 DD is still classic dreadnought

[sly kettle]

An hour and 7 minutes ago, sorta.

[ocean spire]

so you can do two times DD and EDD today xD

[outer bloom]

Stage 2 DD: 200 Morkite, 2 eggs + Rival Presence

[sly kettle]

Less Morkite than before, huh.

[quiet mortar]

It's like a mimic, just different enough to notice

[sly kettle]

The Elite One looks completely different, though. Might be a sign that Industrial Sabotage is being a mission in it

[quiet mortar]

I think so

[hollow citrus]

so the the dives change?

did*

[quiet mortar]

Yep

[outer bloom]

Stage 3 DD looks to be industrial sabotage + 150 Morkite....

[quiet mortar]

No mutators right?

[charred nimbus]

So is it the same on console or will it be different ?

[quiet mortar]

Because Console is on the old update, it will be different

[outer bloom]

Correct, no mutators

[ivory marten]

Hey gang, the Dives done yet?

[sly kettle]

We're still missing Elite Deep Dive info.

Season 3 update changed a bunch.

[ivory marten]

I don't do EDDs, so I'm waiting for the DD data.

[quiet mortar]

Oh DD data is there

Scroll up a bit

(Or a lot really)

[ivory marten]

Ah. Thank you.

Eggs, Dreads, Morkite and-

Sabo???

Huh.

Never thought I would see the day that Sabo shows up in a Dive.

[minor bloom]

Its new with this update

[ivory marten]

Yeah, I can tell.

Nemmy. Why are you here.

It's bloody Stage 1.

[outer bloom]

I didn't notice too much of a difference with the Industrial Sabotage mission. But I also did not come prepared with a good Scout class.

[sly kettle]

Shame.

[ivory marten]

Is it still 3 power stations?

Or is it just one?

[outer bloom]

There were 2 power stations

[ivory marten]

Oh!

[sly kettle]

Urgh, like before.

[ivory marten]

Well did the stations get hacked quicker?

Or did the big boy Caretaker go down quicker at least?

[outer bloom]

Didn't seem so. The hacking pods were fairly close and easy to setup though. The overall map layout was very simple compared to what it usually seems to be. Caretaker still the same

[ivory marten]

ah.

so smoller map

I mean, that's one way to make it dd compatible.

IS THAT ANOTHER NEMMY.

[wild sapphire]

what is new dd???'''

[lament coral]

nitra gen in the edd is insane

[buoyant wedge]

good

[hollow citrus]

seems the nitra bug is in then

[lament coral]

got like 600+ nitra

[burnt sandal]

stage 3 ?

[lament coral]

stage 1

[burnt sandal]

oof 😄

indeed that's a bit much lol

[potent vector]

seriously, whose bright idea was it to add sabotage to DD's

[lime meteor]

depends how long it is

[potent vector]

the caretaker fight is so stupidly tedious

[lament coral]

STAGE 3 EDD HAS MUSHRUM!

[potent vector]

I don't think I'll be playing DD's now if there's sabotage in it

[fluid cliff]

🥴

it's not that bad

[lime meteor]

🗿

It's haz 3.5

[fluid cliff]

even if it's haz 5.5

smaller map you can burst through it

it will be okay

[potent vector]

the caretaker fight is not hard, yes, but it's too fucking tedious

it's worse than 2x refill doretta

[fluid cliff]

if you have all the overclocks it doesn't really matter ig

[limpid pond]

dread
escort duty
shield disruption
lethal enemies
swarmageddon
fungus bogs
So this is where all the hard EDD mods went

[lament coral]

damn, i was hosting and on stage 3 of the edd my internet shat out and it kicked everyone from my game

[stark stream]

750 Nitra in EDD Stage 1
Classic Dreadnought on Stage 2 @quiet mortar
4 man Stage 3 feels like 1/2 Exploder Infestation and 1/2 Swarmageddon on top of the Lethal Enemies mutator.

[quiet mortar]

Ah cheers

[lime meteor]

750 nitra huh

[lament coral]

yeah the nitra gen in the edd is insane, could prolly get well over 1k nitra

[buoyant wedge]

important

there is a mushroom on stage 3

edd

[stark stream]

Can confirm! Pinged it on the way to the extraction pod.

[bleak dagger]

oh boy industrial sabotage added to the pool

cant wait to take forever on that one stage

💀

[ember otter]

I like it, maybe we'll actually be tight on nitra now, normally you end with like 5-8 resupplies worth of nitra.

Now, if there's a chance rng gives us more than one industrial sabotage in a DD....maybe not so fun.

[wraith shard]

Yea sabotage can be very chaotic and kinda difficult sometimes, I think it’s a good addition for deep dives

I hope the patrol bot nerf doesn’t make it too easy though

[fluid cliff]

patrol bot nerf was a buff

harder to ignite

[waxen terrace]

but now you can "freeze" patrol bots no?

[reef bison]

Do we have a list for console dives or do we not give a fuck about them

[trail pivot]

omg really? sabotage?

[wraith shard]

Were sabotage payouts increased? I heard someone say they were

[blissful ledge]

anyone wanna squad up for the EDD?

[lime meteor]

But it should make them slower so they aren't a pain to track otherwise

[lime meteor]

waiting for the dreaded haunted cave industrial sabotage

[limpid pond]

It's overall a nerf, but I think buffing the burn temp was unnecessary. It wasn't even feasible to overheat them without Triple-Filtered CRSPR, but now even that's probably gonna struggle now, and any alternative heat need not apply

[lime meteor]

But with triple filtered crspr it was too easy

before

[limpid pond]

It's fair when you're sacrificing two actually good mods just to kill Rival Tech

The other two options are +damage and +sticky duration, +heat is literally only any good for Rivals

[lime meteor]

Honestly I've used heat for a long time after being dissatisfied with the damage for fuel steam diffuser

so in my eyes heat is my go to anyway

[calm tide]

Anyone know whats in the elite dive rn?

[pure cedar]

DD and EDD are in the pinned message every week.

[calm tide]

Thanks my g

[fluid cliff]

hyperprop has entered the chat

[limpid pond]

Yeah but that one shots the weakspot anyway

[fluid cliff]

and the body

[finite carbon]

guys where are the grenades, im gonna cry

i prestiged my scout, 2/2 grenades... is it at a high level unlock or

[limpid pond]

You forgot to buy them

[finite carbon]

but whereee

u buy em at terminal where u setup equipment right?

[limpid pond]

Yeah

[finite carbon]

how do i buy em then doe if they dont show up in terminal? it says grenades 2/2 theres no purchase tab

or am i missing something

OMG IM SO DUMB.

[brisk rain]

I tested gunner's and scout's new grenades, got killed by driller's grenade (as a scout obviously) and i must say i'm quite underwhelmed (as expected). Most of them seems like they either have lower capabilities, are more situational to use, or both.

I'll test them some more, but i think i will switch back to old reliable ones soon enough

They are also a source of friendly fire more than anything else

[finite carbon]

itll probably get buffed then, tbf its better to launch things weaker then overpowered

[brisk rain]

I think i got myself killed with gun grenade half of time i used it

[finite carbon]

can boomerang friendly fire?

[brisk rain]

it doesn't seem so

but it's not very useful in my opinion

[fluid cliff]

gunner nade is cracked

the others suck

[brisk rain]

it's good against neocyte but it's too slow and insignificat to use against big groups

[finite carbon]

evn if bomerang sucks..

its still proper fun and i vibe with that

[fluid cliff]

we like fun

[brisk rain]

driller's saw is completely useless outside of closed tunnels

it was funny when he threw it and... it just slid away

[twilit ingot]

this EDD was comfy, we had like 600 nitra by the end and were using resups to heal

[kindred coyote]

okay i called the drop pod right im playing solo as gunner and my mule walks up a meteor hole ?!?!??!?!??!?!?

i just couldnt follow it that was so wacky it just left me to die

[brisk rain]

I mean if she can walk through hole from coil gun, i don't see reason why not.

[kindred coyote]

true but like 😭 it couldve at least given me a ride or smthn

[glossy walrus]

molly always takes the shortest path for her yes, she doesn't care about you at all

this is why you learn how to read the map so you can figure out how to make it home without molly

and if it's low o2, pre plant oxygen points midway and/or seal up holes

[lime meteor]

Playing low O2 without engineer in a team is basically putting the game in the mules hands

[forest nest]

so i have to do the SPEC ops industrial sabo to apparently unlock a bunch of other missions and me and some friends did it but it didnt do anything, is it bugged?

[lean trellis]

is the pined message updated?

damn Industrial Sabotage

[forest nest]

ill have to check after this mssion

[glossy walrus]

it is for pc yes

[forest nest]

yea ik

[lean trellis]

i think it is

[glossy walrus]

but console has a completely different set this time

unlike s2

[inner rover]

Is there a list for consoles dives ?

[glossy walrus]

reddit has it, though I don't have the link

[lean trellis]

edd has drill dozer and Shield Disruption

damn

i am calling my good buddies for this week

[glossy walrus]

consol edoesn't have dozer 👍

[lean trellis]

defin not gonna do it with random

[tacit jungle]

awww yeah finally a spicy EDD to try to complete with randos

wish GSG would collect telemetry for EDD attempts and failures and make a hall of fame of spicy ones

[frank viper]

It is so piss easy, did it with randoms and not optimal loadouts. You have 1000+ nitra so its impossible to fail

[lean trellis]

u never know

[cursive bough]

wouldnt it be absolute clearance not absolutely clearance?

[quiet mortar]

You gotta be kidding me

Dyslexia is fun lol
Congrats on being the only one to spot that lmao

[cursive bough]

:wicked:

[lime meteor]

I got edd for console
Stage 1 7 aquarq+ 📡 1 black box elite threat
Stage 2 4 eggs + 1 og dreadnoughts parasites
Stage 3 salvage op 3 mules + 2 eggs lethal enemies

[glossy walrus]

we had elite threat on stage1

[lime meteor]

Forgot

[glossy walrus]

@quiet mortar in addition to what qwerty said about the console edd, console dd is (mutators same as pc dd):
Stage1: 6 Eggs + Dreadnought Classic | Rich Atmosphere Lethal Enemies
Stage2: 225 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Rival Presence
Stage3: Refine Liquid Morkite + 150 Morkite | :petbug:No Mutators

name and regions are the same

[quiet mortar]

Damn, I'll pop them on the Pin now! Thanks guys ^^

[lime meteor]

omg I thought salvage op with lethal enemies was gonna be the end of me as solo scout but I made it

shows how good fire bolt + ifg is

[inner rover]

Terrible spot for both uplink n refuel in stage 3|

Died to countdown

[torn verge]

sabo on the very first s3 deep dive lmao

lets goooo

[scarlet ravine]

can EDD roll sabotage as well?

[charred nimbus]

Are there different DDs now for console ? I didnt have that 😂😂

I only had eggs + box in stage 1, dozer + eggs 2nd stage and eggs + morkite 3rd stage (xbox)

[glossy walrus]

what are you on? I'm on ps side

[charred nimbus]

Xbox

[glossy walrus]

wild

[charred nimbus]

So it is different then lol

[signal shuttle]

5 bulk in the ps deep dive

It sucks without the bulks as well

[glossy walrus]

we got 4 bulks in our edd, the director had fun

[turbid tide]

the hell? elite or norm?

[signal shuttle]

Elite

[turbid tide]

alright I think on second thought I will NOT be trying that

next week it is

[signal shuttle]

I had 17 downs and 20 + rez

[turbid tide]

were any of them crassuses at least?

[signal shuttle]

No

[turbid tide]

mother- wtf drg

[signal shuttle]

They attacked during the circle tasks

After 3 tries I got it though

3 tries where I died in mission 3 on the final little bit

[turbid tide]

absolutely fucked.

[signal shuttle]

Mini mule and I died twice in the fuel cells

It was mini last

[snow compass]

is the first cave new cave gen?

[turbid tide]

does anyone know if you can get rewards from both deep dives for double rewards, or is it that once you complete one you can't get rewards from another

[fluid cliff]

both provide rewards

[turbid tide]

shiiii

elite here I come

maybe

uhhh I appear to be unable to join deep dives

also definitely seeing that whole "holy fuck there are SO MANY BULK DETS"

[bleak dagger]

first stage Edd Bulk came in and blew up the drill dozer LOL

[knotty pike]

So what's the word on the new deep dive?

[fluid cliff]

pins

[lime meteor]

that console now looks like it will be separated from steam dives

at least we don't have industrial sabotage and escort in ours

[ornate nova]

for a week or two

[trail pivot]

it wasn't that bad

the ton of nitra helps

[thorn jewel]

EDD was kinda rough with two greenbeards

[karmic rain]

I did wipe once on EDD S2 because we were in a tunnel and got a double bulk from pulling egg and then someone blowthrough the dread

[still sonnet]

I added some IS icons just for you 😊

the data rack one is used for the objective icon I think

[sand kindle]

Hey I have been wondering and I am still a bit new on how to get matrix cores. I am wondering is that can you farm deep dives for blank matrix cores or is it a weekly thing.

Just wondering

[pine epoch]

You only get rewards for deep dives once a week

You can do them as many times as you want, but other than improving your time, there's not much point

[surreal kayak]

How difficult are solo EDD's

[sand kindle]

Ah thanks for letting me know which I was confused on that

[sweet summit]

probably very difficult but still doable

[surreal kayak]

Ehh ok, ive still yet to do one at all

[sweet summit]

What difficulty do you normally play

or hazard I should say

[lime dirge]

Wait sabotage is an actual objective in dds now

Since when

[sweet summit]

since now

[lime dirge]

Lol

[eager fulcrum]

hi, i just started playing for my first time and it was the tutorial immediately after i went out of the ship elevator thing i got stuck in the wall while it went up and then it disappeared and i fell and died, is there any way i can do the tutorial?

and also is this bug common?

[charred nimbus]

Uhm why is there another dd today

I did the dd yesterday evening when it already reset and today i have new ones lol

Thats weird

[ocean spire]

updated meanwhile?

[charred nimbus]

What update ?

[gusty grotto]

this EDD was a bit tough ngl

i soloed it but damn last mission you had to be on edge and alert the entire time

[charred nimbus]

Anyway im fine with double rewards then

[signal sinew]

Jeeebus we have to do whole ass caretakers now?

[turbid tide]

Yep that's a thing

[trail pivot]

It's only on like haz 3.5

With all the nitra, it goes smooth

[lime meteor]

If you can do haz 5 u can do most edds

[oblique mirage]

Brand new player - I already put in 3 hours to the game and kicking myself for not trying it sooner

I main the scout, currently ‘level’ 12 - would anyone have like a 5 beginner tips I wish I knew or something similar

[sour stag]

I have some from personal experience,

If your going solo, Bosco can guard the Drilldozer by clicking on it, Bosco can also put the casing over pipelines on refining missions if you click the wrench floating at the start. For the guard mode, make sure to press X once the Drilldozer is done, otherwise Bosco will still guard it. You can also press X to cancel any action Bosco is doing, attacking, repairing, etc.
Never take Armor break on any weapon with AOE damage, it's bugged and very inconsistent.
Never buy minerals at the trade terminal (Unless your like 2 off from an upgrade), always just do the mission required, your pockets will thank you.

As for the scout, its really weird, but if your running the boom stick, always take Double Trigger over Quickfire Eject in T2, As you actually shoot faster with Double Trigger and can pump out more DPS then if you take Quickfire Eject.

[lime meteor]

Bosco is not a good drilldozer guard

Bosco will b-line to the swarmer on the ceiling but will let a single grunt chip away at the drilldozers health until it feels like killing it

[sour stag]

Hey he tries his best and we love him for it

but yea its better then nothing but it isn't something to rely on

[severe tusk]

Tips for what specifically? Playing better, grinding efficiently, or something else? Also, are you playing solo or in groups?

[oblique mirage]

Any information someone would offer a new player that they think would be worth any value is appreciate - nothing specific

[oblique mirage]

Thank you 🙏

[oblique mirage]

For example - I didn’t know the perks I unlocked had to be equipped

And only 1 at a time at that

[hollow citrus]

2 newer players in edd fml

absolutely terrible

[severe tusk]

You might watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSNk88xAxCA

[lime meteor]

Is it actually helpful tho that's the real question

it's not just gonna be like "mine nitra lol"

Don't double dip lol

[mossy arrow]

Just a general question for people who play Engineer
What's the better primary? Shotguns fun but some range would be great

[hollow citrus]

I do like the stubby, but im biased towards automatic weapons

[sour stag]

There really isn't a better primary, both the Lok and the Stubby have different advantages and disadvantages, at least IMO, its down to what you like better.

[severe tusk]

LOK-1 has good range, but it's a different play style that some people do not like. It's really strong once you get used to it though.

Sorry, didn't mean to reply to you with that message.

I find Explosive Chemical Rounds LOK-1 to be extremely good in particular.

[toxic prism]

I play engi most of the time and lok-1 and explosive rounds is really hard to beat. Tried so many different setup and always come back to this.

Anyone else ended the EDD with like 600-700 nitras left? We even stopped mining nitra at one point.

[limpid pond]

OCless? Toss up between Warthog and Stubby, LOK-1's finnicky aim and poor stats just doesn't cut it.
With OCs? ECR LOK-1 by a long shot. It's basically PGL as a primary. Turret EM Discharge is even more ammo efficient, but it's much more finnicky. The only real edge Warthog has is Cycle Overload for burst DPS. Warthog is still viable, but LOK-1 and Stubby with OCs are just busted.

[limpid pond]

Yeah, Nitra spawns were accidentally cranked up. You could probably do the EDD Double Barrel only.

[next cedar]

Executioner LOK-1 chunks HVTs when you learn how to curve bullets to hit their weakpoints. With super blowthrough (it competes with ECR in its tier) it can also do some amount of wave clear, though you probably want to have a better plan for wave clear than that especially if you take T1A for more damage instead of T1B for more ammo

[unkempt saffron]

one of the rare occasions ive seen an escort mission with so much nitra

but there were so many pesky swarmers throughout the edd

and bulks spawned more often than not

[upbeat chasm]

magnetic alignment warthog my beloved, I get to whip my funny longrange mk2 turret and then snipe whatevers still alive

[oblique mirage]

I feel like I just got comfortable with the game now reading this I see I’ve barely scratched the surface, I love it and feel small at the same time 😆

[upbeat chasm]

if you run choke warthog like a gigachad then its even better

[oblique mirage]

I’ve never played a solo mission yet i upgrade my Bosco lol I didn’t know what it did until I asked someone in my group

It seems I missed a few things

[upbeat chasm]

I am not a gigachad and as such run more pellets

[turbid tide]

based mod

"I wan mor damag"

alright dwarves/dwarfs tell me why I shouldn't do this week's deep dive

[unkempt saffron]

regular deep dive or elite

[turbid tide]

both

[unkempt saffron]

normal has sabotage for stage 3 so if you like that mode then give it shot, besides normal dives are already super easy

[turbid tide]

I noticed

that kinda seems easy when you always play haz 3 solo lolol

[unkempt saffron]

elite is more of a challenge since swarms seem to spawn more often for some reason, and bulks seem to be a guaranteed spawn in all stages

[turbid tide]

uh oh

that's not an elite thing right?

[unkempt saffron]

on the upside the insane amounts of nitra is a plus

[unkempt saffron]

what

[random oyster]

ok lets see what's on the EDD this week...oh great

[turbid tide]

having garenteed bulks every level?guaranteed

engrish moment

[random oyster]

well at least there's no rival presence

[turbid tide]

at least

[unkempt saffron]

i guess, its not that big of a deal unless if elite bulks start spawning at stage 3

but its lethal enemies, so stage 3 can be tough

[turbid tide]

could always just pretend it's a haunted cave

[random oyster]

don't remind me of that one time one spawned at the heartstone area on Stage 3 of an EDD

[turbid tide]

and ignore the bastard

[unkempt saffron]

just kill the bulk, you have so much nitra now its a joke

[turbid tide]

but scawy

[lament trail]

Bulks aren't guaranteed, but they are in the spawn pool this time around, so the longer you take the more likely you are to get one or more

Pretty good shot you'll get one regardless but you can get lucky and not get one sometimes, all up to the whim of the spawn director

We got 4 total on our edd run

[bleak dagger]

the normal deep dove had two huuli hoards for my group

we couldnt kill both

[cold viper]

stage 3 edd is ridiculous, no idea how you're supposed to beat it

[bleak dagger]

nah it was OK though granted i should stop practicing TFC mining in deep doves

[fresh coyote]

I haven't played alot of edd's yet but this week is certainly on the more ridiculous side, I had 6 bulks with one being an elite, and stage 3 was literal hell. I genuinely despise salvage with all my heart

[brave lodge]

i like salvage a lot

[fresh coyote]

I feel like limiting the dwarves from moving around is a huge disadvantage, especially when in random parties people just yolo and not bother waiting for engie/driller to set up some defense with bunkers or blocking some routes..etc

add to that lethal enemies and the high haz level 3rd edd is and it's a fast brutal trip back to the infirmary, at least was for me and 3 other unfortunate dwarves couple of times

[lime meteor]

Definitely just need teammates to pull their weight

solo is easier then having 2 people that don't know wtf they doing

[ashen veldt]

I want to get silly with exothermic reactor, any good fire builds for other classes to heat up enemies with?

[fresh coyote]

yup, haven't finished an edd with a group yet, always solo. Hopefully I get better with time that I can carry in full teams but as it stands things get out of control if I have to clutch multiple times and everyone else is dead on 3rd stage

[latent star]

its quite interesting running groups

[latent star]

As a driller i try to make routes for all to take quickly around its all how you use the tab key and the tunnels make it easy for defending against swarms

[balmy stone]

I like playing with groups, I’ve met some ridiculously good people on pub edd’s

It’s always a gamble but is usually fun

[fluid cliff]

haven’t met anyone egregiously bad yet

met a number of people I can tell only hop on to do the weekly dives but

that’s fine

[deft vine]

Does anyone have tips for stage 3 of the edd? My team pretty much ran out of ammo and died to infinite swarms. The terrain was particularly bullshit in the last stage, end of stage 2 with the dreadnought was bad too

[torn verge]

go faster so the point extract swarms don't get bad
this sounds flippant but it's just how you have to play the mission
do the aquarks and eggs as fast as possible, everyone should just be pulling aquarks and eggs
and you should have enough nitra built up from the previous stages to not have to bother mining it here
there's a ton of nitra on the first stage, make sure you get it all

[deft vine]

Alright, I guess our pacing was way too slow then

[hushed sequoia]

depending on when you played they patched something about point extraction swarms today

but yeah after about 13 minutes in point extraction you're pushing it

[deft vine]

Good to know, I think we took at least 20 min and got murdered by swarms in that stage

[balmy stone]

I remember an edd a while back where the last stage was almost entirely goo for pe

I haven’t done this one yet but if it’s bogs I’d probably put plats down and zips up if there’s goo and throw quarqs to the rig as fast as possible and have everyone go different directions to get them

[frank viper]

I dont get everyone saying this weeks EDD is hell, i found it very easy compared to other weeks. Maybe me and my random squad was just lucky.

[frank viper]

How do u run out of ammo, the EDD in total had like 1200 nitra

[lime meteor]

console edd?

[deft vine]

We got all the nitra we could find, must have missed it all, plus we took forever

[ashen veldt]

Ammo really shouldn't be an issue but the EDD as a whole was very challenging.
Stage 1: Kind of a filter. It's not that bad at all but if your team can't survive shield disruption escort duty then you're not gonna make it through the rest of the mission, probably. Lots of nitra here too
Stage 2: Nearly deadly. Swarmageddon is a consistent pain and if you don't have easy AOE options and a general awareness, you may have trouble. Otherwise decent though.
Stage 3: I actually lost here on my first time through. Haz 5.5 lethal enemies is no joke, but clearable if you use the tools you have available. Try not to die on the other side of the map getting eggs and aquarqs, and try to clear quickly. When things get rough, gunner is absolutely essential. Hang on ziplines and prioritise maceteras and spitters, and use the (large) amount of resupplies that you should have left to allow gunner to use as many shields as he can.

But yeah it's honestly kinda challenging this time around. Not the worst, and there's a lot of nitra, but it does make you work a fair bit.

[trail pivot]

disconnected first stage haha

[drifting shore]

Current meta is to disconnect on the third

[west nexus]

22 downs

New Record!

[fluid cliff]

shredder nades with warthog: ass

shredder nades with lok: ass

shredder nades with stubby: mama mia thass a spicy meat a balla

still kinda ass tho

also there’s 8 billion nitra on the dive

[unkempt saffron]

Yes theres tons of nitra, too much one could say

[deft vine]

@ashen veldt I play on console which I think is different(?), but your advice is still spot on. The EDD on console is something like, PE/box, dreadnought/eggs, mules/eggs.

And there wasn't anywhere near that much nitra, tragically

[hollow citrus]

nitra's getting adjusted back. I still think the final amount will be higher than before but not to this extent

[limpid pond]

Left Stage 1 with 432 Nitra after calling two Resups 💀

[unkempt saffron]

The excess nitra is due to s3, though by the time it reaches to console id doubt the nitra amount will be as excessive as it is on pc now

[trail pivot]

sweatin these bulks first stage

so many grabbers

[gaunt oyster]

just finished this weeks DD i hadnt read anything about it so i went my usual cryo driller build, thank god for the excess nitra

[glossy walrus]

the extra nitra is a presumed bug from the s3 patch, us console users don't have that yet and it might be fixed by the time we do

in exchange we dodged a haz 5.5 lethal PE s3 in exchange for a rather comfy mule/egg mission

[limpid pond]

Well you get so much Nitra stage one you can skip all Nitra in stage 2 and 3, so it's not really that bad

Imagine if the bug was fixed...

[radiant halo]

they're working on it

[trail pivot]

more nitra forever plz

[unkempt saffron]

And its from an escort mission, which before this should only have enough nitra to sustain you for that 1 stage and maybe enough for at least 1 more resup for the next stage

[trail pivot]

accidentally set off the classic in edd stage 2 with my line gun

it went pretty well tbh

[glossy walrus]

they had another haz 5.5 lethal pe pretty recently before this, it's not that bad for experienced players but it's very rough on newer ones

as shown by all the comments earlier about how much people got overwhelmed by it

infinite nitra on pc right now probably helps, but newer players are still likely to get overwhelmed regardless

[silent sedge]

So. I don’t play deep dive much, so I‘m just gonna ask whether industrial sabotage in deep dives is a new feature… because it just absolutely destroyed me even with the tons of nitra lol

[glossy walrus]

new as of s3 yes

[silent sedge]

Gotta say I spent only 20 minutes on the first 2 and then IS took 50 minutes all by itself

[glossy walrus]

fighting caretaker wants different strategies than fighting bugs and I find the fight pretty fun, but do have to learn the ways to do so

driller ceiling c4 is always a nice way to go 👍

[silent sedge]

Honestly I just can’t fight caretaker in any efficient fashion without gunner

Which is sad because I hate playing gunner xd

[glossy walrus]

driller can ignite tentacles just as well as he ignites bots, and ceiling c4 skips vent phases extremely quickly

[silent sedge]

Ah, so my trick I’m missing is c4ing his head

[glossy walrus]

engie can make tree forts to avoid a lot of stuff and then use explosive platforms to skip vent phases too

[silent sedge]

And I figure scouts strategy is don’t get hit

Like usual

[glossy walrus]

if you run double damage c4 and drop it on straight from above (can't preplant before shield goes down, it gets eaten in that case), 2 will instantly pop a vent phase

engie or gunner can help get above him, but most people I've found aren't aware of the strat, so I just drill a tunnel into the ceiling above his head

[silent sedge]

Fascinating

Time to drag my friends through the DD and cheese the boss with them then lmao

[glossy walrus]

driller can also dig a tunnel network with exits to pop out and shoot eyes from safety for eye phases

but that's not really needed on haz 3.5

helps a lot more on haz5 though

[silent sedge]

It’s needed when your entire game group is incompetent including yourself

[glossy walrus]

there's various other strats with driller and engie for caretaker that are different from bugs

as long as you bring +heat flamethrower it's probably fine without the tunnel network

shreds bots hard, just a matter of whether you can afford to bring it for the other stages on dd

this is a good thread where I picked up a bunch of advanced tips for the fight: https://old.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/qv618r/guide_to_sabotage_tips_and_tricks_vs_the_caretaker/

[silent sedge]

My friend Echo managed to fail a 4 egg haz 1 mission with 1 complexity and no warnings, I am going to cheese everything when I play with him xddd

[glossy walrus]

failing a haz1 is pretty impressive, but we all start somewhere I suppose

just maybe not that far for most

[silent sedge]

lol it was an event drop, resupp pod, drop pod and the minehead that got his downs

I wish he recorded it, I watched on a discord stream lmao

[thorn jewel]

I thought drop pod can’t kill you

The last time I let it land on me it shoved me through terrain to the cave system under it

[glossy walrus]

it can't afaik , I've intentionally stood under it multiple times and just gotten pushed around

sometimes it pushes me into the black void, but it pops me out after a bit

[naive thunder]

is overdrive booster overclock bugged?

[woeful niche]

no

press r while shooting

[glass echo]

I'm not getting any nitra in my inventory in deep dive stage 3, is that a bug or part of the DD?

Actually I don't get any of the minerals I mine

At all

[normal oasis]

how long did u take to do the EDD this week?

wondering if i have enough time to do it in a little bit over an hour

[scarlet ravine]

took my group 53 minutes

[normal oasis]

thanks

i dont have enough

[vocal saddle]

guys question

will they add lithophage to EDD

[lost wing]

They didn't say but it takes over a main objective so idk how they'll implement it in DD

[vocal saddle]

fair enough

[trail shale]

Is sabotage new for deep dives?

[hollow citrus]

yea

[vocal saddle]

yo wtf my discord overlay got stuck and had to complete edd with discord blocking 60% of the screen

[native frigate]

on the first stage is there all 4 eggs? DD

[glass echo]

Yea

[glossy walrus]

that happens occasionally as client, nothing you can do about it but leave all the mining to the host

it sucks because you can't get sugar either, and it feels like your invincibility duration after getting res'd is nonexistent too

rather you can pick up stuff off the floor someone else mined (maybe shot off sugar too?), but anything you mine yourself vanishes into the aether

so def don't mine if it happens on morkite missions or you can softlock it

[graceful flame]

for the drillers out there how are you liking subatas acid tipped bullets?

[trail pivot]

I haven't even tried it

Been using gamma to pop the poxies nonstop

[graceful flame]

i have it paired with full auto and its been doing well in haz4 bnut i havent taken it to a DD yet

[north cipher]

Hello. There's several deep dive teams in lobby, but, none of them can be joi ned for some reason? They're "close distance" too. Why are they listed in grey?

[torn verge]

you can't join a deep dive after it starts

[graceful flame]

^

[north cipher]

right

I had wrongly assumed the deep dive console would not display dives that you cannot actually join

[fluid cliff]

shouts to the scout who ran off mid dreadnought to pull eggs and got salty when dread started following him

he left the EDD and we won

[steep pulsar]

Speaking of Dread Aggro, what does make them switch aggro other than the obvious “Aggro Target is down?”

[fluid cliff]

seems random from my experience

[glass echo]

Thanks mate, I submitted a bug as well :)

[glossy walrus]

the normal join menu displays runs you can't join either (full), just there's a lot more of them so usually you don't scroll down far enough to see them

dds are the same, just far fewer running at any given time

[summer pike]

Had to solo the caretaker with my subata on the regular deep dive because I was using sludge pump.

Fortunately the nitra bug gave me plenty of resupply pods

[echo storm]

how many bulk dets did you guys have during the edd

we have had 6

[trail pivot]

Two or three i think?

[echo storm]

we had 4 on stage 1

then 1 on stage 2

and 1 so far in stage 3

[trail pivot]

3 stage one for me

Two appeared at the same time and got dominoed.

One during the drill first phase

Led it away

[rancid vortex]

does this server not post weekly deep dive information?

[torpid solar]

It’s in the pinned messages

[rancid vortex]

oh thanks

[warped quiver]

man EDD this week is super fun

[fluid cliff]

it was a wild ride

[trail pivot]

Not worrying about nitra is relaxing

[warped quiver]

my team didn't expect all the bugs on s3 so we just rushed straight out of the drop pod lol

still made it because IW is really good

[trail pivot]

Oh yeah, there were maybe a handful of trijaws. I tried out using platform chains for cover third stage, but i thought of it too late. Shredder was doing work

[warped quiver]

oh yeah also one of us got crushed by the platform coming down

[wraith shard]

pc edd stage 1 minimule where hlep plis

[warped quiver]

the escort mission?

it should be on a ledge at the room before the omoran chamber

look for the legs on the floor

[serene python]

edd was hell

[idle coral]

do meteors spawn in dd?

[finite pagoda]

I just failed it on the 3rd mission 🖥️

[haughty axle]

My grandpa unplugged our WiFi when I was on the 3rd mission, all because he couldn’t connect the tv to the WiFi and he’s “””Positive””” it’s not the tv’s fault.

[lusty shuttle]

I'd also like to know if meteors can spawn on DD/EDD.

[woeful niche]

nope

[tranquil sentinel]

Bruh i had 12 bulks 💀

solo*

felt like a true horror experience

[wraith elk]

Man I really enjoyed the edd this week

Like, I genuinely am very well pleased when the game makes me sit up straight and actually pay attention every once in a while :P

[toxic yacht]

love deep dives in general

really connects the team by the time you're finished

[dim bramble]

Really enjoyed the DD this week

was pretty chill and simple

havn’t done EDD yet though

[lime meteor]

every dd is chill and simple simply cuz difficulty

[dim bramble]

True

[cunning thistle]

Cryo bolts were god tier on EDD

So Many Swarmers

[hollow citrus]

lethal swarmers are the worst I swear

[serene ore]

can some1 explain to me what is "deep dive" ?

I can't go for now, but i'am realy curious about, what is it ?

[tardy girder]

essentially, they're 3 missions played back to back with two objectives that need to be completed before you can move on.
the main reason why you'd want to do deep dives is that they give matrix cores (one blank, one overclock, and one cosmetic, so six total per week from the dives alone)

[feral atlas]

EDD swarmer gen seems a bit high. Not very common that I hit >1k elims by the time it's over.

[serene ore]

thx for the info, I can't wait to go on deep dives... but i still need to grind out cuz i started like 2 days ago.

but soon

[fresh escarp]

I mean, Swarmageddon is a factor

[feral atlas]

Stage 3 was the wierd one in terms of swarmer gen.

[graceful flame]

EDD stage one was a damn nightmare lol 3 detonators so fast

[white snow]

элитка имба👍

[cosmic urchin]

anyone know what the stages of the deep dive are, what tasks are they?

[waxen kiln]

check the pins

for this channel

[jovial rune]

is there any requirement for deep dive elite

[waxen kiln]

I think you just have to do a normal deep dive for your first time ever first

[jovial rune]

do you have to be super good at it cuz I see that elite is hazard 4+

[waxen kiln]

just dont do stupid stuff and make a good loadout

[balmy stone]

It’s the hardest mode in the game so I’d recommend trying it solo a few times and getting used to haz 5 missions

You need a lot of ammo usually, but on haz 5 you can’t spend too long mining nitra or you’ll get swarmed

Kiting is a necessary skill

And edd’s go haz 4.5/5/5.5

[fluid cliff]

build for damage and survivability and get carried by greybeards once

and after that should be good

it’s hard but not hard for the sake of it

a nice challenge

[harsh charm]

Moded Server doesn't allow players to join (greyed join button). Is it a known bug?

[serene python]

Edd tips: bring sticky flames on crsper for stages 2 and 3
Lure bulk away from dorretta on stage one
Lethal enemies on stage 3 point extract (10 aquarks?!) makes it tough, so beat it as quickly as possible
Fight the dreadnought in spawn on stage 2

[wraith shard]

we've had 3 detonators in the elite deep dive

in one stage

[limpid pond]

I didn't get any Bulks in the EDD, what the hell? Guess that's where mine went.

[wraith shard]

we had 2 spawn at once

[serene python]

I got 2 on stage one

One guy five minutes into the mission tho

[flat crest]

The ones I played with, we had 3 bulks in stage 1 as well! We almost lost it, but managed to recover! ^^

[serene python]

Left

[wraith shard]

we had 3 in stage 2

[flat crest]

Seems like multiple bulks is quite common this edd

[limpid pond]

The EDD would probably have been a huge pain in the ass were it not for the bonus Nitra spawns tbh

[brave lodge]

failed the last stage

took like 20 mins to clear that praetor stage 2

[half wigeon]

Greenbeard question, does the number of dice slaps actually affect anything in game?

[radiant halo]

nope!

[half wigeon]

Ty!

[radiant halo]

i always slap em when i leave the pod, just a habit now

[half wigeon]

Good habit

[radiant halo]

indeed!

[half wigeon]

You never know if it'll bring you luck

Oh, another greenbeard question- do you find Nemesis, or does Nemesis find you?

(Queue me and the boys digging to nemesis on hazard 4 and knowing fully well what we're getting ourselves into)

[dim bramble]

EDD 2nd stage slapped me in the face at the end

bulk detonator infront of path to dropship

yes I died but I had one revive left so its fine

This EDD wasnt that bad

[dark raven]

after you discover it, it goes after you

[dim bramble]

PC EDD im assuming

this week’s console EDD was pretty easy

[merry saddle]

console EDD here, 4 bulks and 1 elite bulk

in the first 2

[dim bramble]

im getting wrecked in stage 3 nvm

Lost both of my revives now im doomed

its just a cosmetic core so it not that big of a loss

I just got one shotted

2 narcolyte breeders 2 oppressors 3 grabbers 3 glyphid wardens and a swarm all in one

Shouldn’t of underestimated the Lethal Enemies modifier

[dark raven]

edd this week is a blast

that obscene amount of nitra in stage 3...

[fluid cliff]

we didn’t even get nitra in stage 3

we had enough for 5 resupplies going in

we were using them for health by that point hahaha

I’m developing bad habits from all this nitra

[steep pulsar]

Only a matter of time before this permanent state of Mineral Mania gets patched.

[limpid pond]

How long before we get "Devs WHY do you keep nerfing fun??? 21121 Double Barrel was my FAVORITE build and now this Nitra 'fix' RUINED the game!" complaints?

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[fluid cliff]

I tell you what tho shredder nades are pretty good with permanent uptime

[brave lodge]

shredder nades are insane

the rest of engies nades cant compare at all damage wise

lure is still really good utility tho

[bold maple]

plasma bursters exist

[granite lark]

Hi

I'm playing on Steam, how can i invite a friend of mine who is on Xbox? (Xbox on PC)

[fluid cliff]

you can’t

[fluid cliff]

idk ab all that bud

[granite lark]

Wut? But he is on PC? Can't i make a server and he enter?

[fluid cliff]

no cross play between xbox and steam

[civic field]

shredders is really good prolonged single target against oppressors and dreads + good swarmer clear

which is so so good

especially if you have no problems with normal swarms with turret whip and breach cutter

its gods gift to my build

[toxic yacht]

did the elite dive, i swear it gets better with every reset

[tepid snow]

there were 4 bulks in stage one

[civic field]

its only 4 bulks. it could be 5

[tepid snow]

shield disruption

[civic field]

think of the positives

[tepid snow]

😦

[toxic yacht]

shield disruption sucked but we managed

[tepid snow]

2 in ther second

[toxic yacht]

only had one bulk tho you were on some horrendous luck

[tepid snow]

2 in the third

unfortunately failed

the second one sneaked on us

[lament musk]

last mission of the edd is extremely funny

[tacit jungle]

stage 3 was a build check, did your team bring enough aoe to clear waves of grunts and swarmers or not

[low night]

they should add a moonshine distillery and add some ingredients like shine bark and honey from the beehives that we shoot

oh this is the wrong place for this

[wraith shard]

yeah

[arctic mist]

There are bulks on every stage.

And has 5.5 lethal enemies kill shields in one hit.

Got lucky with the buff bear during my second attempt. Red Rock Blaster really helps. Also had a good team.

[spare verge]

oh god 10 aquarq + 2 eggs on a lethal enemies modifier

[tired frost]

About to jump into Deep Dives Solo. Should I pray for my soul?

[pine epoch]

I will remember you, Miner

[torn verge]

you got this
deep dives are very doable if you can handle haz 3, it's just a mental endurance test
and remember that nitra rolls over from the previous mission, so don't be shy with the resupplies on stages 2 and 3

[molten arch]

finished solo edd this week and i never thought i was gonna be facing 4 bulk detonators (2 in 1st stage, 2 in 3rd stage)

[steel vessel]

I had only one in the first stage

tried to pickaxe him
but died too soon