deep-dive-discussion

[grave gulch]

ice

is bad

[ionic bloom]

stage 2 edd was bad

the amount of exploders holy

[rare nexus]

yeah

we just did that stage

[ionic bloom]

i couldn't utilize my shields properly 😢

[jagged vessel]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

I just lost the EDD on stage 2 to a fucking bug

audio got broken

enemies no longer gave off sound

sentry guns were also silent

bosco was silent

enemy walk became silent

it's just impossible to jack shit done solo when audio cues (which actually make up most of the warnings that enemies are nearby) just vanish entirely

[ionic bloom]

time to do it again as scout

i love special powder

[jagged vessel]

add to that the absolute bullshit that was the lack of nitra on stage 1, and ten aquarks taking forever to find, and when I got to actually fighting the hiveguard, endless swarm commenses and it's just

bruh

800+ kills in total

game just decided to fuck me over I guess <_<

[ionic bloom]

yeah

we at 119 nitra and we need to do fuel cells

[rare nexus]

really?

when i did it with some randoms we had alot of nitra left over

[past drum]

deep-dive-vent channel

[ionic bloom]

the amount of grabbers wtf

[rare nexus]

how many did you get

i only got 3

[ionic bloom]

5

or was it 3

he kept on getting grabbed my enginneer

[rare nexus]

i got them all in stage 1

[ionic bloom]

stage 2 for me

swarmers are so annoying

way too strong in groups

[rare nexus]

i just cryo grenade

[ionic bloom]

im always out

[rare nexus]

if im gunner i just cluster at my feet

it works for small, hard to hit enemies

[ionic bloom]

my saving grace is special powder

yeah its over for my lot

[rare nexus]

i wish i had special powder

[past drum]

cryo minelets and fire/cryo bolts do a good job

[urban seal]

Thanks Stuffy

[ionic bloom]

sadly the driller i had, wasn't quite doing as well

[pale quail]

found DD and EDD ez this week as solo driller with sticky flame and C4 charges.

[ionic bloom]

he went down 27 times

[pale quail]

jfc 27 times

that is someone who has no business being in that match

[ionic bloom]

his cryo cannon kept on freezing us lol

[pale quail]

big oof, I stopped doing group dives a year ago lol. Found to many bots in random matches and im not referring to molly -_-

[random rampart]

Wait, theres bot players in this game?

[pale quail]

loads of them

[random rampart]

Never seen one

[pale quail]

yea they were never put in patch notes, they are disguised with fun skins and names that look like real players

they even rock n stone you

[ionic bloom]

quite a lot of people with chinese usernames

[pale quail]

joined a "close" mission yesterday which resulted in 240+ ping while the other 3 were 80 or less and all used chinese characters. Glad the game deemed that was a solid lobby to join

[pale sigil]

there are no bots

[pale quail]

debatable

[ebon anchor]

I thought ambient spawns don't spawn when a dreadnought is around

maybe I remember wrongly and it was just swarms in general

cos I had non stop tiny ambient swarms on stage 2 edd

[stray coral]

quite a nice palatable elite dive this week

[candid bobcat]

iirc dread doesn't stop PE constant pressure waves, which is different from normal waves and annouced waves

[burnt sandal]

In Deep Dives, the rules for the mission are determined by the primary objective. That rule is only true for random dread spawn or Elimination, not for the secondary objective in the DD.

And I'm not even sure a random dread stop the ambient spawns either on PE

[ebon anchor]

cos I remember back during that glacier refinery stage couple EDDs back, with the twins and the god awful map

spawning the twins kinda paused swarms

[burnt sandal]

ambient spawns =/= swarms

ambient spawns are never paused

with the exception of elimination mission IIRC

[ebon anchor]

oh okay

that makes sense now

[drifting parrot]

anyone else use the weekly core hunt to refresh the daily special beers for the DD?

[tall meadow]

Reminder that the beers that give buffs rotate each mission reset

[drifting parrot]

but not if you're just in the lobby

you gotta reload the lobby

[tall meadow]

yes just reload it

[drifting parrot]

what I'm saying is, I run a mission instead of just reloadint

to spend the 30 minutes productively

[tall meadow]

ye if you want to try yer luck and wait for next rotation sure

[drifting parrot]

I'd rather take something better than pogs into a solo DD

[ionic bloom]

i should try doing dd solo

[jolly hazel]

if it just dd, not edd, you should probably be fine with no beer lmao

[drifting parrot]

wait
no dreads on the normal DD this week

[echo storm]

but normal dd still takes longer than edd

[lusty shuttle]

Would taking Hyper Propellant on the EDD be a good idea this week?

[jolly hazel]

id say no because twins don't like burst damage and then there is one hiveguard

[hoary cove]

it’s never a bad idea as long as u take it with a primary that’s decent for swarms

so turret whip, em discharge or ecr

[jolly hazel]

or just take the funny swarm clear plus single target laser

[lavish sedge]

Anything important to note about this weeks edd or is it a pretty simple one

[torn verge]

it's a simple one

nothing worth noting really, i found it easier than the regular deep dive

nice and simple cave gen, no awful modifiers

[modest snow]

are there any exploders in the EDD?

[jolly hazel]

there's an infestation of them

[modest snow]

detonators*

@jolly hazel

[fresh turtle]

dont spawns from warnings like swamageddon and exploders also stay active during dreads

[ionic bloom]

exploders were everywhere with the hiveguard

it was brutal

[ember otter]

Hiveguard/aquarq is kind of annoying, longest dread+mission type that scales hardest with time.

[ornate badger]

should probably do the aquarqs during the dread right?

[drifting parrot]

solo EDD with red rocks here we go!

[ruby badger]

i believe in you

@brave trellis were you the one I was playing with?

[drifting parrot]

hiveguard was too much for me

I beat stage 1, used all my revives + iw on the hiveguard fight, and lost to a natural swarm in stage 2

[jolly hazel]

second fucking week my game has crashed on the edd

after retarded scout put up 0 (zero) flares and then popped twins on his own

[wraith shard]

my NDD bugged out during the refueling stage bcs i accidentally drilled the pod down just after it was connected

so we can't start the pod, breaking the mission

[jolly hazel]

should still be able to start, weird

[wraith shard]

but it doesn't so we abandoned the mission

good thing it was just the last stage so we dont really care for the cosmetic core haha

[modern galleon]

Simple question, Can you repeat the weekly deep dive(s)? Like, if I did it once for the reward, and want to do it again with my sister later?

[hushed sequoia]

you can repeat them as many times as you want but you don't get the cores from it the following times

[ionic bloom]

^

[inner zenith]

Looking for fellow dwarves volunteering to proceed into a Deep Dive

[hollow citrus]

for DD PE missions, it's generally better to do the secondary before the primary aquarqs right

[ionic bloom]

i dunno, we did at the same time

[hollow citrus]

fair enough

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/626770765525680170/1018107217884491776/20220910033311_1.jpg?width=1156&height=650

simple EDD again

[deft holly]

the little hole in the second phase of the edd has claimed 5 lives so far

[sleek marsh]

how do i get bigger amount of gun

[void shore]

the amount of dakka that u bring is only limited by your imagination

[sleek marsh]

too little of damage from my guns

[void shore]

autocannon needs buffs tbh

feels like a peashooter not a fucking drumfed flak gun

[ember terrace]

Neurotoxin payload and big Bertha make it pretty strong

[void shore]

doesn't go far enough imo

a 20-30mm cannon should instantly kill a grunt sized bug in 1 shell

[jolly hazel]

carpet bomber/splintering shells is the best sustained swarm deletion in the game

trivializes escort

plus boreotoxin being the best OC in the game

autocannon is in a fine spot

also probably to be man portable, autocannon velocity isn't that high combined with bugs being really fucking hard to kill (see how many strikes it takes just to kill a grunt versus how easily you shave off minerals)

think of autocannon as an automatic grenade launcher

[void shore]

we'll agree to disagree

I find every gunner primary that isn't neurotoxin autocannon to be underwhelming, especially at close range

[burnt sandal]

NTP sucks at close range, funnily enough, since you don't really have the luxury to wait for the enemy to die from the DoT.

[jolly hazel]

have you tried max rof carpet bomber/splintering?

I'm also not a big fan of durricane, but Salvo module is one of his better close range options alongside burning hell minigun

gunner's strength is his damage application at all ranges

[limpid pond]

You ever used Hurricane with Shrapnel Load?

[jolly hazel]

wtf is shrapnel load

oh weakpoint mod lol

[void shore]

yes, I find it inferior to an aoe hurricane with OFM or frag missiles for swarm clear

aoe autocannon builds just don't feel good at long range since ac is so inaccurate

[void shore]

I use hurricane with shrapnel load and jetfuel homebrew for elimination sometimes

good damage just wish the missiles were a bit faster

I would post my last EDD results but I don't have permissions to post pics

[jolly hazel]

you dont have to hit anything when your damage comes from splash

aoe hurricane has travel time and u are preoccupied with guiding

[void shore]

you are correct, however I just don't like how I'm missing out on half of the potential damage output because the gun can't hit anything directly past 10m

[limpid pond]

"preoccupied"

[ionic bloom]

me who doesn't play gunner for dds 🤷‍♂️

[void shore]

sometimes thats the only slot left lol

[ionic bloom]

usually its scout or engi for me

[jolly hazel]

yeah you are stuck guiding, what word would you use?

[jolly hazel]

carpet bomber skews it in the aoe side so its technically over 50%!

not to mention hurricane wasting ammo if you dont count perfectly (you wont) and then you have to fire again and guide them if you undercount

[cold skiff]

NTP is decent at close range because all you have to do is shoot down. no self inflicted damage, everything gets feared, and swarmers/shockers will instantly die

but that isnt really an issue when you can always use a secondary to pick up the slack. like lead spray brrt

and yeah chuck i had a hard time trying to enjoy the hurricane as well

minelayer made me a lot more interested in it though, recommend trying it out if u havent

it is the only OC i like

[jolly hazel]

I used to love minelayer but then I realized delayed damage application is such a downside

[cold skiff]

true

[jolly hazel]

very fun though

[cold skiff]

and in a team game it is a pain in the ass because the visual cue for it is not as obvious as something like, say, neurotoxin. you have a bunch of mines down and then people shoot the bugs when they were gonna die in like 2 seconds anyway

[sleek marsh]

how to get biggest damage please

[cold skiff]

i used NTP a lot and i just wanted to spice things up. im a big fan of anything remotely similar to sticky fuel

[cold skiff]

what class

[sleek marsh]

alpl

all

please

[cold skiff]

single target or aoe

[sleek marsh]

both 🙂

i use smg

voltage

[cold skiff]

for stubby it is hard to get high AoE damage unless u are using the OC that causes ur turrets to explode

[jolly hazel]

highest instant fat boy

most total dmg probably lazer

[sleek marsh]

i prefer high ammo and shoot speed

if ok

[jolly hazel]

they still shoot ntp bugs lol

[cold skiff]

YEAH they totally do

but mines can be tricky to pick out if u arent aware of what they look like

[cold skiff]

try to get the EM refire booster for the stubby. it adds bonus damage and higher fire rate. im a big fan of it. makes it feel like a competent gun for dmg

[jolly hazel]

yes em refire

and the tier 5 mod that has electricity have a chance to spread

has REALLY good cc cuz of that

[cold skiff]

for em refire i go full clipsize ngl lol

[jolly hazel]

I tried both and I like the slowdown but clips is good too

[cold skiff]

id rather go full ham on single target and let my secondary do wave clear/ cc

i love you VIR shard diffractor

[trail pivot]

minelayer is love and life

I wouldn't bring it to a dive

[cold skiff]

yeah

[trail pivot]

unless all three are osr

[cold skiff]

it is hard. unless theres like, no dreadnoughts and no mactera plague

[lusty shuttle]

The cavegen in that second mission is just absolute total bullshit.

[trail pivot]

I can't guarantee the terrain advantage across three missions

[cold skiff]

sounds like fun

[jolly hazel]

driller should be able to destroy the crystals but yeah its bad

[cold skiff]

ah yes throwing axes

i hope the new driller grenade is competent

[trail pivot]

I fell off the cliff overlooking the pod

but it was much easier than i've ever gotten in glacial strata

[limpid pond]

Everyone massively overrates the travel time downside. Deep Rock players really can't fathom the idea of aiming I guess.

[next blaze]

If you like Carpet Bomber, 31122 Fragmentation Missles on the missle launcher is basically the same build as 22221 Carpet Bomber

[cold skiff]

#minelayersweep

[limpid pond]

Incorrect, Frag Missiles has a bigger radius than Carpet Bomber 😩

[next blaze]

Carpet Bomber deals its damage faster and doesn't deal with travel time, but the missle launcher has stun and pin-point accuracy

Haha just by 0.1m though, but what's also kinda nice is that its AoE dropoff is also slightly better

[trail pivot]

minelayer is so awesome

[limpid pond]

Minelayer is the real infinite ammo cheat, Neurowho?

[trail pivot]

it's great until flying enemies show up

[limpid pond]

That's what Six Shooter and Compact Mags are for

[ionic bloom]

i should probably do edd after i finish eating

[jolly hazel]

having you view stuck in a certain direction focusing on that is a pretty big downside

plus having to wait x seconds to actually start doing damage defending a static point becomes a problem if the rest of the team is braindead

worse is trying to kite with your view locked lol

[grave coyote]

What's this weeks EDD?

[normal gull]

Check pins

[grave coyote]

Cheers

[lusty shuttle]

Just had a great Scout and Gunner, our Driller left as soon as he went down on the first mission, but we were all able to pull it off without him. Taking nukes for the Hiveguard definitely helped a lot more than hyper propellant did on my first attempt. We actually had a good amount of nitra left by the end.

[plucky plover]

starting elite deep dive, voice chat in pod 38

[next blaze]

On the other hand, shooting at something at a distance, then suddenly turning to shoot at something chomping your behind makes all the missles crash into it. Super satisfying

and t5 fear kinda works against the AoE clear you want, whereas t5 stun clumps them together as you shoot the forerunners. Not that you'd likely use t5 fear with Carpet Bomber, but the missle launcher is almost surely taking stun

[jolly hazel]

I'm not using fear with anything other than ntp

the other t5 mods are great

[jolly hazel]

yeah but those bugs on cileing still alive now

[sick wind]

Tips for edd stage 2? I 've failed 4 times

[echo storm]

hiveguard first most likely
unless you know the location of most of the aquarqs

u only got a 15 minute window to do it all before the endless waves start

[sick wind]

What build are you running?

Im using driller with sludge blast sludge pump

[echo storm]

oh i did it with scout

[solar sable]

my wifi goes out every so often so I have to solo deep dives which isnt that bad but still

:pain:

[pale quail]

Am I the only one who utilizes Bosco for eggs and aquarqs? I see so many talking about finding the aquarqs when you can literally see almost all of them from the drill rig. Send bosco while you pew pew and get nitra and other items

[vague falcon]

bruh never trying elite deep dive solo again

cant kill dread for my life when there is 20 other glyphids spawning constantly

[digital moat]

i might start the deep dive

but

i just got the boltshark

and i have a fire bolt overclock

shuld i use it

[burnt sandal]

if you want to kill the dread, you gotta do it quick

either right after the welcome party is dealt with or right after the first swarm

after that, it might be too hard

[tranquil apex]

damn stage 2 of the EDD kinda slaps eh, wiped twice so far

[jolly hazel]

clear the crystals

[tranquil apex]

both wipes have been in the meantime waaiting for the pod to arrive, what do you mean clear the crystals?

[jolly hazel]

clear the six trillion crystals clogging the sight lines around the minehead so #1 sentries tell you where bugs are and #2 you can kite and shoot them

while waiting for the pod to arrive

[tranquil apex]

just passed stage 2 funnily enough it was the first time I triedd driller bc I was gunner the last 2 times

which may just be a better team or the fact i've played alot more driller then anything else

[gilded gulch]

oh man

point extraction and a dread huh

that brings back some painful memories

and it's the same dread as then xd

[jolly hazel]

no low oxygrn

[summer sinew]

It's convenient to do it alone in low oxygen

just spamming c

[burnt sandal]

#lfg-playstation might be the best place for that

[valid abyss]

sure

[ionic bloom]

at 400 nitra in stage 2 edd yay

[ionic bloom]

still lost

[gilded gulch]

i feel kinda bad i told this group the edd was rough but i guess my first team just made it seem that way

then we did it smooth as butter

granted first team was def a bunch of new guys, host said he'd never even tried haz 5 and by the time we all went down in stage 2 i had like 30 or so revives xd

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[wise umbra]

I tired to do it solo and it was a mistake

[trail pivot]

EDD hard , but low gravity on the last stage...

[lusty shuttle]

I found that using Fat Boy on its zits to make it vulnerable faster helped.

[jolly hazel]

wouldn't have went with that guy personally lol

[worthy briar]

hi

[sick wind]

I've failed the edd 6 times

Going for the hiveguard first does'nt work for me , still geting flooded with bugs

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah that second stage is absolutely brutal

The exploders just make the terrain nonexistent

[gilded gulch]

eh i thought it'd be worth a try

[gaunt valve]

zoinks

solo scout edd was a little hairy

specifically second stage

Brain went "aquark first dread second" and was under constant barrage of bugs while doing the fight

[ornate badger]

Lost in s2 edd

But we were kinda doomed with a 3 man

Scout left as we loaded into s1, shouldve just restarted then

Those exploder swarms and the stupid hiveguard

Plus we didn't clear terrain, will next time

[ionic bloom]

i still need to do edd to finish stage 2

that hiveguard is just not fun to deal with

[violet mauve]

Same here. People only had time for one attempt. Stage 1 went pretty well, but stage 2 was just overwhelming.

[glossy walrus]

that's the 10 aquarq pe + dread + exploder combo for you, esp the dread that tends to take the longest

we two manned it, but I was liberally abusing zipline cheese for the fight as hiveguard is on the weaker side to it, while my driller buddy was running around on the ground freezing it

and freeze mostly negates the 'hitting the butt from a zipline' issues

[gilded gulch]

yeah honestly aquarqs + dread is the hardest elite deep dive combo imo

just bc dreads are probably the biggest timesink you can have and aquarqs do not enjoy the idea of a timesink

[ionic bloom]

terrain layout was okay

[deft holly]

That one little hole in S2 has now killed me 7 times

[ionic bloom]

XD

[ivory marten]

I wonder what the dive will be this week.

[ionic bloom]

please no hiveguard

[tardy girder]

please no glacial strata, for real this time

[main quest]

w

[ancient cove]

Does it matter in form of credits/xp if only one survive first DD mission?

[wet shale]

there is no survivor bonus

just win the thing

[ancient cove]

thanks

[modern galleon]

Elite glyphid guard knockback is evil. Failed my EDD attempt because when I iron willed and ran for a supply pod, a guard KBed me away and I couldn't grab it. x.x PS: KB should absolutely not apply while you're invincible during iron will

[wraith shard]

I like EDD's

[digital flume]

I feel like it wasn't that bad, the normal DD

[tardy girder]

this week's regular DD was fine enough, i'm just tired of glacial strata since it was in the deep dives three weeks in a row (EDD twice, DD once)

[digital flume]

Mhm

[echo storm]

dd took longer than edd

[violet mauve]

I agree with this. I can't count the amount of times I was Gunner, Iron Will'd, and set a shield up to revive a teammate, only for a roller to come around and kick me away through the shield.

How is that a thing!?

[atomic prawn]

That's why rollers are kill on sight 😂

[unkempt lantern]

rollers are supposed to go through shields

[limpid pond]

I understand wanting some things to go through shields. Explosions and quake attacks are perfectly sensible and easy to prepare against. But random pinball party wipe is just dumb. Shellbacks can literally just walk through unfolded, it's nonsense.

You're telling me shields can shove Hiveguard around no problem but the dumb little pill bugs are a no-no?

[lost jungle]

sounds like a skill issue

[hoary cove]

you shud run vampire

[balmy stone]

^^

Especially cause there’s usually free health for the taking right where you died

Then you got more time for red sugar or clearing some of the thousands of bugs for a better rez

[lusty shuttle]

Have you tried bringing nukes? They let you clear its weak point phase pretty fast, makes it a lot more manageable.

[jolly hazel]

stage 2 has alot of bugs coming at all times because PE and exploder infestation plus really bad sight lines from crystals

stage 3 is effortless cuz 4egg

stage 1 is also very nice with uplink and fuel placement

[sick wind]

I finally completed this week dd after 8 attempts

[sick wind]

Thats exactly what i used , the entire cave was full of holes lol

Be sure to use friendly

[graceful spear]

Stage 2 EDD, we went in with 90 nitra and used up all we could find on that stage just fighting the hiveguard

Stage 1 & 3 were a breeze comparatively

Failed 5 times before clearing stage 2, roughest edd for me idk why

[kindred flax]

so... im wanting to do my first deep dive

[cobalt steeple]

took me 3 times to do this weeks EDD
fighting the dread first on stage 2 is what did the trick
once the dread was dead, we could coast through with supply pods from the considerable nitra surplus
we were 3 gunners and a scout (i was the scout)

[raven grove]

Man, my team just shredded through this EDD. Love when teams just click.

[astral sparrow]

Do the trash mobs spawn even when fighting the Dread on Point Extraction for stage 2 of the EDD?

That shit was cringe as hell when kiting the Sentinels and Dread in the confined space and all of the sudden a small battalion of swarmers start biting my ankles

[scarlet ravine]

yep, better to fight the dread early before the spawns ramp up

[graceful spear]

Yeah. Clear the initial spawn wave and speedrun the hiveguard

[hushed sequoia]

i think they spawn significantly less when fighting dread

[graceful spear]

Didn’t feel like that during my fight 😂 waves just kept coming and coming

[hushed sequoia]

big waves shouldnt spawn though

[tepid granite]

so hard to find session for DD

[worldly condor]

team struggled a bit on s3 because of bad spawn. 2 breeders 3 spitballers

this edd would've been real nice to run fire gunner

though NTP six shooter did fine

[blazing current]

Seems like this week is not for me

Tried 5 times, 2 failed, 2 host disconnect, 1 client disconnect

[worldly condor]

damn

unlucky fr

[shadow hamlet]

who wants to do a dd rn?

[raven grove]

Confined? After a bit of driller that area was wide open.

[random rampart]

Use your platform's LFG channel

[shadow hamlet]

?

[random rampart]

Theres a lfg channel category in this server, inside is a bunch of channels. Post your lfg message in the one channel dedicated to your platform

[shadow hamlet]

can t find it

[random rampart]

Check your friend reqs, im sending through dm

[shadow hamlet]

sure

[soft verge]

attempting solo rn🤞

[soft verge]

42 min not bad

[void loom]

That was my first elite deep dive and what a doozy

[swift jacinth]

not a bad choice for your first one, it feels like most of them have had shield disruption for the past month or two on at least 1 stage

[echo storm]

well if u neva done an edd then yeah it feels intense

afterwards it is just another day in the week type stuff

[lethal spear]

The 2nd stage dread being hiveguard was kinda annoying

[modern galleon]

Hiveguard > Twins, imo. Screw the twins. Hiveguard takes time, but at least you can kite him around and be relatively safe in the interim; So if you get mobbed by a wave of normal enemies, you can focus on them first. Twins on the other hand don't give you ANY breathing room. They constantly burrow to your exact location, one can fire clear across any room, the other has ground AoEs that go clear through walls, etc, etc.

[raven grove]

Twins are actually fun, though.

Hiveguard and OG are just bleh.

[gilded gulch]

twins fun

hiveguard boring

[modern galleon]

Twins evil, Hive guard...kinda boring, i guess. I like him though. More than the twins at least.

[gilded gulch]

twins i like bc it takes at least half a smidgen of teamwork to kill effectively

[balmy stone]

I like hiveguard more, I try to snipe those glowing things

[gilded gulch]

in the sense of not letting them heal each other over and over again

it ain't hard but it's at least kind of a factor

[balmy stone]

Arbalest hides half the time

[gilded gulch]

that's why you ping em!

[balmy stone]

He’s in a spot I couldn’t get him from anyway

[gilded gulch]

i rarely find that he's like hard to hit unless i'm playing driller but if i'm on driller i'm focusing lacerator

fuck that guy in particular

[balmy stone]

In my experience dude takes cover like the #1 camper in the history of cod

[gilded gulch]

he's usually just up on the ceiling being a nuisance

get your scout and gunner on that sucker

[balmy stone]

I am the scout and gunner

[gilded gulch]

shoot arbalest

[balmy stone]

It’s like whack a mole

[gilded gulch]

that's the best part

[balmy stone]

No cuz then they heal

[gilded gulch]

as long as you damage them equally they don't heal after the first time

or you all can focus one and just like

fucking turbo damage it

kill it before it can go heal, i've had that happen before

mega swag

[balmy stone]

I’ll concede the lacerator is fun cause he actually wants to fight

[gilded gulch]

lacerator is fun when he launches you across the fucking cave

free catapult

[modern galleon]

The EDD I tried earlier that I got DCed from went that way. Arbalest wandered off to some random corner of the cave the whole time, so we just nuked down lacerator and dealt with the extra heals. Arbalest really only came to bother us after the lacerator died.

Convenient, but a bit more ammo intensive.

[gilded gulch]

sometimes you're able to just fucking annihilate the poor bastard

happened i think on my 2nd attempt

lacerator just got completely locked and decked

arbalest still had like over half health when lacerator died lmao

[bitter olive]

I haven't done deep dives on my own yet, can you run solo deep dives with bosco?

[modern galleon]

Nice. Yeah, it feels like there's like a 5 second or so grace period after their HP gets too far apart where you can keep damaging them

You can.

[gilded gulch]

ye

[modern galleon]

I did my first DD solo.

[bitter olive]

Thank you.

[gilded gulch]

other times though it feels like you're damaging the twins equally and they still decide to heal 5 times

assholes

[simple citrus]

Fr

They’re fun but the arbalest legit runs away so much

[limpid pond]

I think it's funny that I used to love Twins for not health-gating damage and hate default Dread because of the slam attack, but now I body default because it has no long lasting invincibility like Twins and Hiveguard and hate the Twins. The 0.1% HP difference heals, Arbalest camping in another cave so we have to wait for it to dig back just to run off again... motherfuckers.

Always been ambivalent towards Hiveguard, never really got the hate for it, or why there's a mod that nerfs Hiveguard's HP.

The Sentinels are goddamn impossible to hit in the back, and a fight with Hiveguard makes the room unusable, but taking it down is almost always fairly simple. It standing still and roaring right when it opens up is just a free damage phase, you don't have to fight for it like the other two Dreads.

[raven grove]

The hiveguard is boring. As is the OG dread. The twins are dynamic and interesting and I want more fights like that and less invulnerability of botth the unbreakable armor type and the health gating type.

[limpid pond]

At least default amd Hiveguard only have Unbreakable Armor, I'm sick of peeling the Twins' Heavy Armor only for them to immediately do their mandatory heal, so then I have to go back to dumping ammo that does zero damage again

I know you can hit the mouth, but that doesn't get the back's weakpoint bonus

The only time I ever have fun with Twins is when I one shot one of them so I don't have to play Where's Arbalest? the entire fight

But it's more an annoyance than a serious grievance, and everyone has one Dread they hate, so I don't think the devs are gonna change anything, if ever

[modern galleon]

Iirc twins back 'weakpoint' is just 1x damage. Not sure what damage it is to mouth, but pretty sure it's not that much difference.

[echo storm]

hiveguard is funny with cryo driller

oops there goes half the hp

[limpid pond]

Weakpoint multipliers still benefit

[past drum]

i think you are better off shooting the mouth if you dont have a (efficiently) armor breaking weapon

[ornate badger]

this stage 2

is owning me

christ

fucken 10 aquaq

[ornate badger]

finally got it

4th try

i just went driller and cleared all the shit

made it so much easier

[radiant halo]

yeah 2nd stage is rough, gotta try and clear all the fellas shooting various acids at ya

[ancient cove]

yeah, very hard

a lot of bugs keep spawning during dread fight

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[ornate badger]

Yeah I was scout a few times

But my team was a bit clueless so

I got like 8 aquarqs each time

While they dont do anything productive

Went flame driller and got all the easy aquarqs while scout got some high up ones, cleared the arena with c4 and drills

Much smoother

Then stage 3 was a total breeze

[swift pendant]

christ this stage 2 of the elite dive is complete hell on earth, three unsuccessful attempts, dreadnought and getting swarmed do not go well together, guess greenbeard's first elite is gonna have to wait

[balmy stone]

I did basically the same thing but with goo driller so I could fire and forget while carving out stairs and c4’ing the crystals

I also did most of the aquarqs cause it’s super fast with drills and I wanted to get tf out that mission

Teammates handled nitra and marking what they wanted me to delete

[ornate badger]

Yeah in my failed attempts the driller was not going for the easy aquarqs which wastes so much time for the rest of the team

[balmy lion]

Was it just me or was this weeks DDE pretty easy?

Maybe i got lucky

[sly vapor]

me too

[limpid pond]

It is pretty easy. Mild terrain, plentiful Nitra, last stage is super duper easy.

[wanton knot]

edd was mostly smooth, our team struggled with stage 2 tho. very annoying terrain and we just kept popping it at the wrong time. fun tho

[dusk pelican]

After the first swarm pop that dred and deal with it early. Waiting too long to kill the dred is certain death

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[severe tusk]

As others have said, pop the dread right after the first announced wave finishes. Terraforming the area around the rig with C4 will help a lot, if you want to fight it there. Or you could fight it up where the egg is, and maybe have an engineer make a platform ledge to have little more room to fight and kite exploders and sentinels.

[sly aurora]

Need pointer. Im 25 morkite short on stage 3 of DD.is there any on ceiling etc or spawn

[modern galleon]

Sounds like you missed a room or offshoot somewhere; There's usually around 100-150~ more morkite than you actually need to complete a morkite objective.

[severe tusk]

There's some nestled in some black ice in that area across from the drop pod (not the one you come in on) and also level to it. Also some if you hang a right along the wall when you enter the big chamber, IIRC. Assuming you're solo and not a Scout, Bosco can help you find whatever is left.

[sly aurora]

Just found some behind some ice shards. That was a tough deep solo. Stage 2 i had a betc show up. Oppressor on refuel and a bulk detonate on hearthstone Rock phase

[gloomy plank]

noob to deep dives here: how many matrix cores can I get?

[modern galleon]

1 blank for stage 1, 1 weapon overlock for stage 2, 1 cosmetic overclock for stage 3. You get the same from EDD as well; for a total of 2, 2, and 2 from deep dives.

[gloomy plank]

just completed 2 deep dives today and I didn't got any for the second one, is this intentional?

[modern galleon]

Yes; Once per week, per DD. You can get rewards once from Deep Dive, and once from Elite Deep Dive.

[gloomy plank]

I see

thanks for the info

[charred frigate]

anyone looking to do elite?

[calm jetty]

Easiest edd i have ever played in my life

[zealous pond]

EDD was crazy smooth

kept thinking I'd started the regular DD by accident

[modern galleon]

Some trouble on 1 and 2, but 3 was smooth as butter. First EDD finished. :D And got the sub 45 min run too.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[sly kettle]

Soon™

[modern galleon]

Too Slow™

[worthy siren]

Soon Enough™️

[warm carbon]

Anyone up for a edd

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone!

[warm carbon]

Im done with carrying teams

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Clean Reserve
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Classic + Twins) + 📡 1 Black Box | Volatile Guts
Stage 2: 200 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 7 Aquarq + 📡 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Desperate Hollow
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Critical Weakness Parasites
Stage 2: 10 Aquarq + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster

[sly kettle]

Elite Deep Dive is a real fast one this week, it seems.

[potent vector]

yea, all rushable objs

[drowsy hollow]

No dreads, nice

[wraith shard]

its divin' time

[gray sinew]

Я магу завтра

Играть

[serene arrow]

this week's DD looks harder than the EDD lmao

[scarlet ravine]

EDD is easier than the last one

[potent vector]

DD was very easy too

steamrolled through it

[tardy girder]

currently working on the oktoberfest assignment, but the dives don't seem that bad this week
helps that there's no glacial strata this time at all lol

[potent vector]

no it's crystalline caverns for DD, sand corridors for EDD

[modern galleon]

Definitely a lot easier this week... Or I got a good team. 32 min DD, 34 min EDD. Went pretty smooth overall.

[normal gull]

Sandblasted corridors my beloved ❤️

Also, finally an edd with no shield disruption let’s gooooo

[whole timber]

Literally EVERY SINGLE WEEK I get disconnected before the mission ends on elite deep dive.

Literally waiting outside the dropship, i can't deal with this crap anymore. You've got to be kidding me.

FUCK THIS GAME

[modern galleon]

RIP, But also, Might I suggest...you do the hosting, So you can't be kicked/DCed?

[whole timber]

Its cool. If the devs won't address the issue, I will.

[thick jetty]

Er...you sure it isn't some kind of issue with the internet on your end?

I mean, I get your frustration, I'd be pissed as hell too

[echo storm]

probably internet issue

[deft otter]

BRUH elite dive 2 exit is at the top of the cylinder

[jolly hazel]

all extraction stuff

speedrun week

except blac box

[wraith shard]

I die every solo deep dive

[past drum]

git gud

[potent jewel]

Holy FUCK

I cant describe the game i just had

Stage two of the elite deep dive

Everyone but me died

I ran around as scout trying to revive someone but then a FUCKING BULK SPAWNEd

[tulip sigil]

idk what else you would've expected

[crude raptor]

On a Scale of 1 - 10, how difficult is the ongoing elite deep dive?

[fresh escarp]

The good ending

[radiant halo]

from the looks of it the only one that might suck is stage 2 on the edd but it depends on the cave layout

[potent jewel]

Three spitballers and a leech spawn

[hoary cove]

ifg moment

[dusky beacon]

but why would you use ifg over cryo or phero on deep dives

[potent jewel]

I didnt realise ifgs werent good on deep dives 💀

[balmy stone]

I use ifgs cause they stay active a while against swarmers I can’t deal with all at once during a revive or to slow enemies near chokepoints, they have the added utility of sticking to walls

[potent jewel]

The 30% damage boost helps clear bugs

[balmy stone]

Cryo’s good for macteras but I have issues with randos using incendiary so I don’t want them to cancel out

Ifg’s are also good for surviving next to the drop pod waiting for molly it’s like a shield lite

So they’re swiss army knives basically

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/626770765525680170/1020045604535160902/20220915115544_1.jpg?width=1156&height=650

Good speed with a random crew

[balmy stone]

Y’all are fast god damn

[trail pivot]

I stopped using my grenades as scout

The benefits have been like an unspeakable treasure

[echo storm]

whiffed stage 2 a little bit so it took 25 minutes

[hoary cove]

lol why

[trail pivot]

Just goes to waste

[jolly hazel]

[modern galleon]

If you're not really using em anyway, take pheremone as a get-out-of-danger-free card that gives you and your team some breathing room before the bugs get shredded by gunfire. Also great for distracting bugs away from fragile objectives like Doretta or Hack-c

[jolly hazel]

whenever I use pheromones, I think "why didn't I bring cryo?" lol

[limpid pond]

Imagine not using IFGs tbh

[lean crescent]

Jesus, fucking the last mission on the eilite is utter bullshit this week

A pod that drops straight into the mouth of bugtopia and dumps the crew right in the middle

Grabbers, leeches, spitballers

Get out of the pod and the first thing I see is a massive bowl full of bugs the pod is dropping us into

Engie throws down some platforms so we can drop

get separated by the fucking mental swarm of bugs

Engie gets plucked by a leech hidden in the ceiling, we can't shoot it because there's terrain in the way and we're trying not to get shredded ourselves

I get pushed into a corner by tons of tiny swarmers without my shield

Scout is barely avoiding getting their ass ate by a squad of praetorians

Every wall, ceiling and floor

bugs, bugs bugs, bugs, bugs

Driller is about to save Engie after killing the leech, gets snatched by a grabber at the last minute

Everyone dies. Engie uses Iron will, gets pushed around by the bugs trying to get to us and ends up dying

Scout iron wills, saves engie

engie saves driller

Engie is then caught by a different, harder to shoot leech

Driller comes to save me, but is snatched by another, different Grabber

Scout gets shot in the back by a spitballer and dies

mission ends in failiure

[modern galleon]

Since I started using Pheromones I've rather fallen in love with the ability to free myself of numerous bugs from numerous angles in an instant. IFG is nice for killing specific harder targets, but it's other advantages are rather covered by pheromones- Namely grouping enemies up and preventing them from moving around much for a short while.

Sounds painful Smiler. :( Strong suggestion: Do not exit the drop pod till the dust has settled, and do so carefully- As long as you dont fully exit the pod, it won't 'leave', giving you plenty of time to survey the safety of the surrounding areas and spot most of the death that got you murderized.

[lean crescent]

the utter shit of bulls

[lean crescent]

That's the thing

the bridge lead straight into death

The only option was to drop into the soup of bugs

[glossy walrus]

that's why you stay in the pod until the bugs are cleared

[lean crescent]

no area around you could reasonably jump to and not break your knees

[glossy walrus]

I got a sandstorm right after landing so you bet I was gonna hunker down in that pod until I could see again

then I cleared stuff until I had some room to land then jumped down

because the pod is in the middle of the air, grounded bugs can't reach you, so you're actually quite safe there

and it's not like it's PE, so you're not really on a huge clock

[modern galleon]

This right here is the step where your team went wrong- You have the high ground advantage. One person goes out, shoots the bugs, they'll come to you. Murder them all, THEN exit the drop pod fully.

[lean crescent]

We were already in the drop od for a solid while trying to thin out the bugs

But there was just

too fucking many

The pod wasn't even in the air

it was being held up by a small bit at the back we couldn't reach

the bugs were climbing it and already hitting us

[glossy walrus]

it's effectively the air, since the pod needs to land on stuff

guess my bugs were nicer about it since they didn't really come to play

but either way, stay in the pod until you've thinned stuff out enough to exit safely

you should be able to keep ahead of the spawn rate

[modern galleon]

And your engineer can build a platform bridge over to the drop pod entrance to drop a resupp on, in pretty much every case.

[lean crescent]

That had to be the most utterly un winnable situations I’ve ever been in in DRG

[modern galleon]

Anyway, Certian mission types start with a massive wave of enemies already spawned in- Eggs are one of em. Once the initial spawn wave is clear, its back to business as usual

Its really noticable in the big open room layouts, since there's just like a hundred bugs all waiting to eat you

[lean crescent]

Yea

That last mission, and I’ll call it this until the end of time

Was utter horseshit

[glossy walrus]

this one wasn't even that bad compared to the one some weeks back

where the door opened and suddenly multiple turrets and spitballers were suddenly shooting at you

fighting your way out of the pod to even touch the ground was an effort

[hollow citrus]

That was the glacial strata refinery stage 3 with rivals

Terrible

[next blaze]

The drops in this EDD might be my favorites in recent times. First stage, just a massive amount of grunts you can send flying with explosives. Second stage, spitballer to the left and a sneaky one right behind the pod, plus one way up high. Third stage, several clusters of leeches right above where you want to disembark to, plus another sneaky spitballer peeking up to you from below.

[hoary jungle]

Holy shit edd stage 2 is annoying, maybe I missed something. Also probably doesn't help that I'm solo engineer, but there is no break in between the non stop swarms of glyphids. I could not supply myself enough ammo and time to kill them while digging for aquarcs even with Bosco helping me.

[modern galleon]

Yep, Aquark missions are always rough, Because the swarms ramp up in size over time. What starts as say 15 glyphids is 30 by the 5 min mark, 60 by the 10 min mark, etc; Not exact numbers but you get the idea. You need to complete the objectives and go- Minimal time spent doing anything else. Else, you get to the point of 'no return' where by the time you kill wave A, wave B has arrived and you can't catch back up.

Save up Nitra in stage 1 to use in stage 2 if you can, Prioritize ensuring you have 80 nitra, then send bosco to get one aquark/egg while you get another that is ideally directly across the room from the one you sent bosco to; This way you can ping Bosco to a new location as he's coming to you and have him drop his burden near the platform for turnin.

[steep hound]

our stage 2 droppod was 40ish meters in the air. if we didn't have a scout, we'd surely have lost it

[severe tusk]

I am sure an industrious Driller can find his way up there.

[modern galleon]

As the driller for my EDD that we cleared, yeah, an industrious driller can indeed. Scary AF though with bugs nipping at your backside though.

[severe tusk]

Putting those waypoint and quick map reading skills via the tab button to the test!

[violet mauve]

Jump on a big bug like a Praet, it cushions your fall.

[torn verge]

I was playing engie and slapped some platforms on the wall to the left so i could jump out and get behind the drop pod
but then i got grabbed by a grabber and dropped on a spitballer

[hollow citrus]

this EDD wasn't too bad at all. only scary part was stage 2 when an egg swarm overlapped with a random swarm. other than that nitra is plentiful and map terrain is fine, just be careful descending into the pit on stage 3 cos lots of leeches

[modern galleon]

My 3 companions on the EDD jumped out of the pod on stage 3 and got leeched in seconds. 😂 Apparently totally zonked out on the cave leech cluster

Smooth sailing after, but it was funny.

[hollow citrus]

yea, just get a scout to light the ceiling up, it'll be fine

and for once the drop pods all didn't land in some shit position, as it often does in sandblasted

also, first time in weeks where the EDD doesn't have dreadnoughts in it, thank goodness

[modern galleon]

Ikr

[ionic bloom]

ig ill use fatboy

[pallid helm]

how is this week EDD? easy or hard?

[modern galleon]

Pretty easy. Just be careful steppin out the drop pod at the start of each stage.

[ionic bloom]

yeah its pretty easy

[echo storm]

edd was faster than dd

[unkempt lantern]

Another easy EDD. Would have been even easier if I hadn’t managed to lock myself out of control in stage 2.

[signal sinew]

EDD is kicking my ass

What on earth is it with the extraction on stage 2

[exotic coral]

How difficult is EDD compared to normal DD? I know it’s hazard 5, but like do you need to be a pro with 100 hours to do it or just have a competent team of 4

[echo storm]

competent team of 4

biggest thing in higher hazards is u have to keep moving

otherwise it is about the same

[jovial delta]

Anyone else have a tough time with stage 2? Didn't seem that hard of a level, but it took me like 5 times to finally get passed out

[jovial delta]

Honestly team of 4 makes it even harder lol, competent team of two, with good perks and OCs you'll be fine. Communication is key

[snow hound]

just failed a solo deep dive on stage 3. kill me.

[hard anvil]

Anybody having major disconnecting issues? Everyone I play with keeps getting disconnected from games

[trail pivot]

Yeah, late at night EST it's bad

Game says close but one player has a user name in katakana or something, so i wonder

But not for dives

[hard anvil]

hmm, happened on our dive as well. Just cant seem to find any info on it at all.

[ornate badger]

I feel like stage 2 is so spread out

And spitballers/menaces with regen are annoying

[snow hound]

drak-25 scout is the solution

[ornate badger]

Yea thats my plan next attempt

[zinc shuttle]

probably a dumb question, what do you get from a regular deep dive, compared to an elite one

[ornate badger]

same rewards

just less xp and credeits

[zinc shuttle]

ah okay, but you cant do EDD till you hit a certain blue level right

[ornate badger]

nah you just need to do one deep dive first

then you unlock the ability to do EDDs

[modern galleon]

To note, you get rewards from doing DD once, and EDD once; So a total of 2 blanks, 2 weapon OCs, and 2 cosmetic bits if you do both DD and EDD

[ornate badger]

the infamous dc as we call in the extract on s3

classic

[tacit iris]

I did it with a friend, I played engineer and just stayed around base fighting the swarm, while he collected 8 aquarqs from above and tossed them down

There’re 2 aquarqs just below the base in a corridor (on the left to those nitra veins) and the 2 eggs are close to base as well

We had oppressors & menaces spawning and trying to kill them with regen bugs was pretty hard lolol

[ornate badger]

finally finished

[foggy coral]

how do i rejoin a deep dive after i got disconnected :c

[fading valley]

anything spooky/noteworthy about this week's elite before I yeet myself in blind?

[thorn jewel]

Be a little careful exitting the pod on all three stages

Buncha of grunts and riff raff stage 1; couple spitballers and (regenerative) menaces stage 2; about 85 thousand leeches stage 3

Otherwise have fun

[modern galleon]

^ That. Additional note: Roughly 84 thousand of the leeches are directly outside the drop pod door. Be extremely careful when exiting.

[hoary cove]

naw its pretty ez

[jolly hazel]

really easy week

over 1k nitra easy

sub 30 min is super easy

[fading valley]

i'm just glad its not glacial or magma for the third week 🤣

[rare nexus]

just finished a EDD and me and my team almost lost twice

[echo pond]

If they have public profile on steam i think you can join through their profile worked with me and a friend

[lavish zodiac]

What’s the new edd

[trail pivot]

it's pretty easy tbh

finsihed my first one ever

[lavish zodiac]

Thx and normal dd

[trail pivot]

haven't touched it yet

[echo storm]

normal dd also easy

takes a little longer than edd

[feral patrol]

just use more on the second level then lol

okay we will probably end up with a worse one next week, and having it always be difficult ain't too much fun

bruh

[scarlet ravine]

easy objectives + easy mutators + easy biome

[thorn jewel]

elitists at their finest

[ornate badger]

I dont think it was a total breeze

[wraith shard]

I’ve come to make an announcement:
I beat my first deep dive, but damn do I hate the mactera plague
And at least I’m learning how to play defensively rather than purely for damage

[pallid helm]

I met 3 bulk detonator in stage 1 EDD today, what are the chance

[modern galleon]

If you play damage hard enough, you don't need to defend. ;P But yes, having a bit of care for yourself definitely helps.

Pretty crap chance, Wac.

[ornate badger]

I saw 2-3 bulks every single run I had at it, so many today

[reef bison]

I had 6 bulks in total for the first time doing it
The second time I did it we had 2 on 1st stage and I think only one on each stage after

[trail pivot]

The bulk in the first stage made us panic. Had to destroy it without wandering away from where we zipped to the floor and did the swarm

Had betc total us the first time

She didn't appear the second

[atomic prawn]

so many bulks 😂

but this week's edd is short n sweet

[elfin onyx]

Are deep dives soloable?

[oblique glen]

Yep

[queen patrol]

well that was underwhelming

even the devs can do this edd

[tacit jungle]

I can't remember the last time I had scarce resources in DRG. Nitra really is getting out of control

[queen patrol]

try building for less ammo efficiency?

[fleet timber]

Any Elite Deep Dive advice? Never completed one.

[trail pivot]

Turn down character volume and turn up ambient/ enemy volume

Dwarves never shutup, have to scream everything they do

I'd like to hear the skittering of bug feet, but instead what i hear is gibberish.

The worst thing is struggling to be certain if you heard digging bc bc engie won't shut up about PLATFORM PLATFORM PLATFORM PLATFORM TURRET ASSEMBLY TURRET ASSEMBLY SHIELD UP LIGHTS UP FLARE RELOADING RELOADING

[fresh ivy]

This dd is so easy

[sweet summit]

GOO SACK

[trail pivot]

Goo sack is acceptable

As is mushrum

[echo storm]

always keep moving

[trail pivot]

Trust your teammates to do their role. Including discussing gear and weaknesses beforehand

Last thing you want is toss a napalm grenade on the group scout/driller just froze

[jolly hazel]

trust teammates

[trail pivot]

Might want to warm up beforehand with strangers

[hoary cove]

EDDs kind of completely negate the ammo conservation aspect of the game imo

i can’t remember the last time i ended an edd with less then 2 or 3 resups extra

[frosty jungle]

“We’re rich”

[trail pivot]

What kind of ror player would I be if I didn't enjoy the word mushroom?

rungus addicts unite

[deft holly]

mobungus

i havent played drg this week yet iirc, how's the dd/edd map?

any funny holes or cliffs maybe

i have high hopes for sandblast, raring for a big ass empty room

[trail pivot]

It is on the second stage

But instead of empty there are leeches

And trawlers

[deft holly]

even better

[trail pivot]

Maybe betc

[deft holly]

sweet thanks my man

also kinda off topic but I've been obsessed with power attacking leeches recently which has led to some funnies in the past

[spare flume]

Dont deep dives have a rejoin thing if hte game crashes?

[hoary cove]

if client crashes, yes. If host crashes no

also client can’t always rejoin, it’s kind of hit or miss depending on the crash

[maiden river]

you can actually rejoin through steam and the whatever scarce tries i have it worked 100%
obv requires having a player in the deep dive as your friend on steam

[hoary cove]

ah, im mainly familiar with joining through discord or just public lobbies

so at least that method works

[half patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1019057179153682562/1020823889732976710/Deep_Rock_Galactic_Screenshot_2022.09.17_-_17.29.14.06.png

bro this edd

🗿

why so many BUGS

[ornate badger]

1900 kills wow

[maiden river]

how

[ornate badger]

Ntp?

[half patrol]

too many god damn bugs

[half patrol]

yup

ntp

i had to switchh from berthaa

shit was so moyai

[inner garnet]

we gotta take him to the hospital

i think his back is brockwen

🗿

[half patrol]

literally survived with 1 hp

🗿

don't get me started on stage 2

[inner garnet]

ong

[half patrol]

anyways pro tip, don't get snagged by the stupid sand worms

[hoary cove]

i did this edd in 28 minutes, how tf did it take u an hour

[half patrol]

bugs

[hoary cove]

oh wait u didn’t have a scout lol

[inner garnet]

yeah, quit on stage 2

[half patrol]

our scout was uh

he quit on stage 2

💀

[inner garnet]

reasonable thop

[half patrol]

bro was fed up

[hoary cove]

you can get all the aquarks on stage 2 in like 3 minutes

[inner garnet]

nig wut

bugs tho

[hoary cove]

we ended this edd with 400 fucking nitra lol

[half patrol]

🗿

there must've been something wrong with ours

[hoary cove]

bruh how

did you not get all the nitra in stage 1?

[inner garnet]

no

dont think so

[half patrol]

no

[hoary cove]

there was like 400 in the first cave alone

[half patrol]

WHAR

ok

[hoary cove]

second mission had so much i didn’t even get all of it

[tacit jungle]

wow imagine not getting all of the nitra

my hands look like this so that driller's hands can look like that

[earnest wadi]

Are the Best Wurst Mugs on Deep Dives?

[ornate badger]

No

I couldn't see it when I looked for ine

One

[edgy vault]

Dang the 2nd stage of edd is where the hell breaks loose

[tacit jungle]

that was quite a few bugs, but I think our driller killed them all

pretty easy EDD

stage 2 extraction was lol

[drifting shore]

bulk spawned directly on starting the black box
I think I had a bulk on every stage. Still though, first Elite Deep Dive completed!
||Oh no, wait; my bad. There's still one more stage to go.||

[merry lagoon]

thats why im always playing as gunner on solo EDD

shield gen goes hard.

[worldly condor]

man yall fucking lied

this one was NOT easier than last week

shitload of bugs

had a super competent team and the one with the least death still had 3

[ebon anchor]

I think it just depends on many things

The objectives itself might seem easier but there's still alot of randomisation that goes into play that really changes how every team perception of the difficulty

[desert phoenix]

i dont think im gonna be able to pass this edd

too much shit on stage 2

[limpid pond]

Did the EDD in 24:58, I think this is the absolute easiest one I ever did

[desert phoenix]

nvm

did it

[soft verge]

i finished in 29 solo wasn’t really focused i probably could’ve did 25 ish if i tried

[jolly hazel]

shoot bug

[jolly hazel]

saying the devs should cater to you because you are too good sounds kinda silly

just play haz 6-7 or something

[hoary cove]

i do think the game is very lenient with nitra in general, which is fine. But deep dives take it to another level. You can easily finish most edds with wayyyyy more nitra then you will ever need

Considering ammo conservation and nitra is a core part of the game and edds are supposed to be one of the hardest pieces of content in the game, it is a bit weird that you can not give a shit about ammo efficency and still finish most edds with nitra to spare

[jolly hazel]

yeah I think I've had two total where we actually ran out

definetly just due to nitra carry over

that it becomes a non-issue

unless you would change cave gen formula ala double primary dd/edd, only thing you can do is slather on more enemies and cave complexity

[hoary cove]

also mules giving nitra can massively increase the total amount of nitra in a cave. Which is why an edd with even one nuke objective can have so much

[jolly hazel]

and if you change cave gen formula stage 1 escort could get iffy

oh yeah

[worthy briar]

i kinda want EDDs to be harder

[jolly hazel]

I think drg as a formula has a pretty low skill ceiling

[worthy briar]

most of them have gotten stale

[jolly hazel]

that just means you are a good player lol

[worthy briar]

i am definitely not that good of a player

EDDs are just not that hard

[jolly hazel]

the bar is pretty low unfortunately

[hoary cove]

ye but considering edds are marketed as some of the hardest content in the game, it sucks most veterans don’t feel that excited doing them once they get the cores. Unless they like speedrunning ig

[worthy briar]

way too much ammo, less warnings than deep dive

for some reason

[jolly hazel]

thats rng

cave gens the same

[worthy briar]

no, it's not

[hoary cove]

i legitimately think the average haz 5 is more difficult then most edds

[worthy briar]

EDD cannot have double warnings

[jolly hazel]

neither can dd

[worthy briar]

which makes up some of the hardest haz 5 missions

[hoary cove]

i don’t mind dd being easy. It’s free cores for new players

[jolly hazel]

I was talking to other guy

but ya weekly weapon oc #2 lol

I think the game is trending towards accessibility so I wouldn't necessarily expect any edd difficulty tweaks but I get it

some kind of unique enemy would be funny

adding double warnings to the mix would still make it rng from week to week if it would show up, like retarded cave gen/objectives randomly spiking difficulty for certain stages on certain weeks

cranking up difficulty to 6-7 is out of the picture iirc

[hoary cove]

ye i played modded as well if i want more of a challenge, but that was just my thoughts on edds in vanilla atm

i’m hoping they add hacksy as a secondary like black boxes too

[jolly hazel]

I hate hacksy

I hope he gets fired

for gaming while at work

I think those are the most insane spawns in the game because of their proximity

[hoary cove]

it’s def the hardest event in the game

but i still love him

[fleet timber]

Did my first Elite Deep Dive ever Solo today

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[umbral shell]

Thanks

That guy helps so much

🙂

[gusty lichen]

Stage 3 got asked 'how many cave leeches do you want' and responded by crawling onto the ceiling, reaching down and killing the scout

[torpid solar]

I just stayed in the drop pod with the smart rifle and turret and shot all the leeches as they went for people 😅

[severe tusk]

For those who want an extra challenge, there are mods that make the game more difficult, so I don't really see the problem.

[modern galleon]

I'm more curious what exactly makes him think nitra is 'supposed' to be scarce, personally.

But, taking it as if it's 'supposed' to be scarce, It's kindof he carryover effect of nitra from stage to stage at fault; Not the frequency of nitra itself.

Stage 1 of EDD is Haz 4.5; If you stay here and gather as much Nitra as you can, you're setting yourself on a good for later stages. Then in Stage 2 you're already on a good foot and though the difficulty has gone up to 5, you're still in a really good place to gather as much nitra as you can. Then for the third stage at 5.5 you have a ton of nitra ready to carry you through with more still to find.

Thing is though, There needs to be enough nitra for extended dives too, Not just speedruns. Not everyone sprints through at mach 5 with a team of 4 like a well oiled machine.

And making EDD 'accessible' does not trivialize the existence of DD OR EDD. That'd be like saying because Haz 5 exists, it trivializes Haz 1-5. Reality is that one is still very definitely harder than the other, even if it's more accessible to general users. 5 is much harder than 3. Some people find DD hard; Some find EDD hard; Some find both not challenging enough and go to mods with Haz 10 and rebalanced resupply drops that cost 40 nitra instead of 80 because there's just so many enemies they had no choice but to give you more ammo.

[south zinc]

[jolly hazel]

yeah

I have had missions with 4+ extra resups on normal haz 5, nitra isnt "supposed" to be scarce any more than its above the designated minimum threshold to spawn per mission

and the game is already becoming more accessible so you might as well install some mods lol

No offense, but you seem to have an inflated sense of self worth due to that icon next to your name.

[placid bison]

The idea of too much nitra is stupid, I love having 8 c4 to make a big hole at the end

Taking more than 1 resupply is cringe

[candid bobcat]

i rather have nitra plenty missions rather than nitra starved missions

it's not fun getting limited by nitra and having to take the most ammo efficient loadouts possible

[torn verge]

more nitra than strictly necessary allows for fun high burst loadouts
and when you're playing in a group, you can have someone run a very efficient loadout so someone else can run a high burst loadout and semi-regularly double dip
if you consistently have way too much nitra, then you should start running less efficient higher DPS setups to take advantage of that

literal skill issue

[rustic yacht]

the solution, as always, is the Fat Man overclock

[hoary cove]

ig they just make edds easier then haz 5 since most ppl will want to do them for the cores and it’s one of the few times the game forces you to do a certain haz

i think that’s fine but it has the consequence of there not being much of an incentive for older players to keep doing edds

they just aren’t as fun or challenging as normal haz 5, where you can get events, korlocks, betc, double mod, etc

[main sage]

elite dives can be harder as the people that play them are generally worse at the game than the average haz 5 player

well, on average

[hoary cove]

ye but by that logic haz 5 can be easier then 4 a lot of the time since haz 5 pubs tend to be better

[next blaze]

Seems a lot of people equate being challenging to being fun too. I've long since gotten all cosmetic OCs and still enjoy EDDs, specifically searching out groups that don't have any high-level players in them so that I can act as a sort of escort. Like, in this week's, our gunner accidentally fell down into the cavern on the first level as a wave was announced, so I jumped down there with him to help out as we split into teams of two, with the others huddling in up top. That gunner stuck like glue to me, following as I hopped around to get away from bugs and into a better position, and did pretty well with the support despite going down every so often

Situations like that are gratifying to me and the reason why I'll do an EDD several times over the week for fun

[hollow citrus]

the amount of nitra varies based on primary mission types too, egg hunt and refinery maps always have a lot more than say PE cos there's scripted swarm spawns that are unavoidable.

and since we had 2 egg missions this EDD not surprising there's more nitra than normal. the mini mules also add even more.

[plain maple]

Hey I just promoted and want to do a deep dive anything I need to know

[atomic prawn]

i guess check pins and see what the objectives are

[narrow creek]

So, I just learned the hard way that Black Box objectives on Point Extraction deep dive stages will scale the swarm intensity to whatever the mission is currently at in terms of time spent

Tried to solo the normal dive, and was absolutely flooded with glyphids with Mactera Plague getting me shot from every angle

I even did a little speedrun for all the Aquarqs, but it seems like that wasn't good enough

And the Black Box being active doesn't stop the game from stacking a swarm on top of the enemy waves you're already getting

[violet mauve]

That's pretty much the only reason why most people do EDDs.

So the solution would be to simply move the cores from the EDD to the DD (and maybe double the core gain from Weekly Core Hunt).

Retool the EDDs to something only elite players would actually care about and cater it to them instead of screwing over regular players with rewards that are mechanically essential yet dangling just out of reach for them.

[torn verge]

yeah that's basically why i play engie on the dives
being able to fortify a position with repellent plats, EM discharge turrets, and VIR magma makes defensive objectives a breeze

[violet mauve]

Just the fact that missing the Cosmetic Core on EDD st3 means you also miss out on your 11th weekly core from forge freebies is a bit

[torn verge]

and those are the ones that tend to kill you
if you don't die getting out of the drop pod, you're mostly likely to fail due to a hold position objective imo

[chrome cipher]

Is it intended behaviour that you can't rejoin a deep dive if you disconnect?

[violet mauve]

No, you should be able to.

[random rampart]

If you do so willingly, yes. If you crash, no

[violet mauve]

Provided you are friends with the host.

[chrome cipher]

a friend crashed and couldn't rejoin

[random rampart]

Was your friend the host?

[chrome cipher]

no i am

[random rampart]

Then they should be able to

But it can get finnicky sometimes

[raw dragon]

I like game

[glass junco]

why is there no option to rejoin if you lose connection???

literally on the way out, on the way to drop pod

and i lose connection

and i have no way to join back??? who the hell coded it like that

that leaves such a horrible taste in my mouth for deep dives

cuz it WAS NOT my connection

and i'm not gonna redo the first 2 parts of the dive just for kicks

[south oak]

hmm

if one were to escape the via the pod

then will the entire team move on ?

[glass junco]

you mean if everyone is dead? but one person makes it?

[south oak]

yes

[glass junco]

yes, everyone makes it then

i've done that with scout

[south oak]

nice

about to do one

[glass junco]

it makes iron will invaluable

[south oak]

no I mean

the second stage

the drop pod lands on top of the map

[glass junco]

wat?

[south oak]

yes

EDD I mean

Aquarg with complex 3 cave I believe

[severe tusk]

If you're on Steam, you can choose View then Players and check the profiles of the people you were playing with if you disconnect. If at least one of them doesn't have their profile set to private, then you can rejoin the game. If the person hosting the game crashed though, you're just out of luck.

[digital flume]

u can join through steam, discord game invite in chat. Thats how my friends do it when they disconnect

[glass junco]

he was not on friends list

why is there just no pop up to reconnect?

did we regress in gaming trends?

see i'm not even sure if host crashed, that's how little info i have

[digital flume]

If there is nothing to reconnect to...

Or if he kicked u

And just because u didn't get smth doesn't mean it's like that for everybody. DRG has more option to join or rejoin than 99% of other games

[stark stream]

I sometimes don't get the option to reconnect either.

[glass junco]

@digital flumethat's what i mean, why doesn't the game at least tell me what happened

like
Host lost connection, game instance terminated

it just was like, connection lost!!! figure it out

and them i'm scrambling to reconnect, cuz it still shows the dude playing on the DD menu

but it won't let me

i was like 10 seconds from stepping into the dropship to evac

so frustrating

[gusty dawn]

Is the pin up to date?

[jolly hazel]

always

maybe not hour or two after release

[digital flume]

Rn yes

[gentle path]

Plannin to take my crew on our first deep dive this weekend. Anyone got any tips or advice to share?

[lime fog]

have at least one person with iron will

usually field medic/dash/iron will are the best actives for dd imo

[balmy stone]

Wait til the next mission to call in resupplies if the drop pod was already called unless everyone needs ammo

[gentle path]

Oh?

We are usually good about mining nitra. Usually we finish a mission with 300 excess nitra

[balmy stone]

Some missions have barely any nitra and the resupply gets wasted if they have most of their ammo

[gentle path]

Fair point.

[balmy stone]

It’s more of a problem in edd’s

But if you’re fighting dreads in a dd you’ll still burn through a lot

They’re also useful in low o2 missions because if molly goes up a vertical shaft or smtg then on mining you’re screwed without resups as an o2 source on the way

You get like 40% oxygen from getting rezzed so it is possible to get there if people are taking turns with that but difficult

[gentle path]

Ah. Yea in low o2 settings we move as a group around the mule. We dont push the envelope

[dusky beacon]

aaand edd done first try again

[balmy stone]

I almost failed a dd cause randos called resups every time I put in nitra on a super complicated cave and it was low o2

I got to the drop pod with dash and iw

[jolly hazel]

kick em

[balmy stone]

I wasn’t host

[gentle path]

I play only with my crew. Ppl ive played with before and know wont screw me too bad. Even if they never listen

[balmy stone]

Pub matches are fun most of the time and dd’s are easy enough to clutch

Edd’s I’d rather play with higher lvls

[gentle path]

Ive been abandoned in pubs too many times. Legit randos join in. Get to the Final Stage and lognout, leaving me alone with no ammo or nitra at the bottom of a cavern

[jolly hazel]

you arent alone

you have bosco

[gentle path]

Yea but with no ammo and no resup, bosco can only do so much

[jolly hazel]

running out means something has gone horribly wrong

anecdotal but I feel the average skill of edd players has vastly increased since s1+s2

I havent had a 1k kill+20 revive hypercarry game in a long time

[gentle path]

Nods. Good to know.

We are going in with 2 drillers. A gunner and a scout

[copper cedar]

Anyone find stage 3 of the DD incredibly similar to stage 2 of the EDD a few weeks ago? I think stage 1 was a hiveguard haunted cave?

EDD 150 I believe, for anyone that remembers them like that

[balmy stone]

I did 8 revives and about 600 kills this week + got most of the aquarqs as gunner but my teammates did the eggs on the other stages and called resups in advance so they were overall pretty good

They also picked generally good places to die

[grave mantle]

Are the DD and EDD tough this week? I'm out of town until Wednesday night. Hoping I can get them both done quick.

[placid bison]

I wish you luck

Its full of nitra

And leeches

[echo storm]

the edd is (easy deep dive)

[lime fog]

for edd my group only struggled with stage 2

dd was a breeze

but we did both first try anyways

[thick fossil]

i can't tell if it's just randoms or the EDD but man

also the fact people are apparently getting connection issues