deep-dive-discussion

[stray coral]

if you're going to leave an EDD you do it at the END

i thought our driller was kinda goofing off in the beginning but like the guy really pulled through

we nearly lost it too, on stage 2

i popped iron will and got a full resupply, then shielded and revived our driller who promptly got to work on the others while i laid down suppressing fire for the remainder of the shield burn

just some of the gnarliest shit ive ever pulled off

all this while we were signfiicantly elevated so i had to jump down a few dozen metres, hit a resupply (thank god for that resupplier perk), then hop platforms til i reached the team and just choose my field medic revive wisely

idk who that engi was, think his name was bob or something, but stuff it, bob!!!!!! we pulled through without your ass

[normal gull]

Is the edd bad like the third stage last time

[stray coral]

the haunted modifier can be difficult but there's a few big open caves

[topaz pivot]

Did the ghost in haunted cave S3 of EDD get glitched for anyone else? We entered the first cave and it started digging, but evidently just stopped

Its' thing in the terrain scanner (just a big black void circle) was standing still, and we never saw it after we entered the first cave

Never came, through the dread, or mining to other caves to find morkite

Nothin

[lusty shuttle]

I wish there was a "stay the fuck still" button for Molly so that I wouldn't have to constantly wait for her to catch up, only for the abomination to get there at the exact same time. I want to be able to lead it away from her in solo, but if I do that, she just follows.

Can't even dash away fast enough if I try to deposit an egg first.

[astral sparrow]

Some people are having problems with the Dreadnought fight if you fight it in the room the egg is in. Egg room is pretty fucked, like 3-4 ledges that all lead to a canyon running through the room.

Either A) fight it in the next room or B) get Engi to throw down platform bridges to cross back and forth to kite Dread and ghost (my premade and I did B)

Besides that, if you grab all the Morkite you see you can call droppod before entering the last room

[crystal stag]

First Elite Deep Dive Dove

[quasi sleet]

I miss last week's EDD already

[jolly hazel]

why

[reef bison]

Wow
So this weeks EDD verdict: one of the hardest I've done. Amazingly challenging, but holy fuck was it hard

Idk why it was a struggle, but that last stage was just really bad. I think more team synergy was at play but shit it was just hard with that haunted cave shit. Got sandwiched between OG dread and horror twice 💀

[lusty shuttle]

If it's that bad, I'm glad it's a classic dread and not a Hiveguard.

[jolly hazel]

pretty easy edd

there's like 8 cave leeches on stage 2 all together in the lower area

and our engie got 90 degree leeched so be careful

[slim oracle]

How does it compare to last weeks EDD?

[jolly hazel]

no bullshit stage 3

wide open area for horror+dread immediately after the cave with the dread egg in it

stage 1 is a cakewalk

stage 2 is only bad because of leeches

and you can just drop black box on stage 2 and it becomes standard uplink

only down was due to playing chicken with 5 leeches at once

[slim oracle]

@jolly hazel Nice thanks for the tips

[upper geyser]

lol got rando dread on stage 3, didn't matter

[echo storm]

man this edd was a breeze compared to last week

the cave generation for the last stage was pretty good also

and there was a lot of nitra

[crystal stag]

The Dreaddy is sandwiched in a Canyon, so if your Engi makes some platforms to cross it, you've got some mobility. The real beater was the Mactera Swarms. absolutely brutal.

[lofty frigate]

edd was fine, stage 3 was mild cbt

too bad i got nothing useful in the cores lul

[potent vector]

edd is not that bad. my run was a bit tedious at stage 3 because we don’t have good dread slayer

also triggered dread just as swarm was announced.

so unlucky

run would’ve gone much smoother if I ran my “fuck dreads” build

[graceful hemlock]

man, If I knew all three DD missions would have elim secondaries I don't think I would have gone for mobility scout.

[hollow flower]

That's why i prefer my DD loadouts to be generalist builds

[lofty frigate]

i went engineer with some random loadout and i did fine, edd wasn't too mean this time around

[thick willow]

got the EDD done with randoms

good stuff, chill dudes

[unique ore]

eyyyy

[thick willow]

well trim my beard and call me pointy ear its you!

good to see you!

[naive creek]

This EDD is almost a walk in the park after last week

And the difficulty basically goes down each stage

[thick willow]

i agree

[safe gulch]

All dreadnaughts, are you kidding me now-

[green estuary]

Oops! All dreads

[vague sun]

EDD was nice this week

[rare nexus]

i just found this out

[strong robin]

hiveguard is at least a pretty easy fight as long as you aren't solo or if the guy that has his aggro is too eager to also damage him instead of letting the team get free hits

[ornate badger]

Gotta love when team goes down and last one alive pops the weak points before ressing

[vocal saddle]

i ended up doing last weeks edd ON the reset

[olive flicker]

Stage 2 DD solo was quite annoying.

[torpid solar]

The dreadnought + ghost on the EDD wasn't that hard. Our engineer made a couple of bridges across the chasm and I kept both of them sludged as the driller, which made it pretty easy for everyone to evade them.

[strong robin]

had a bulk spawn in at the end of the edd morkite cave, was a fun run back, only got some random epc oc though that gives more normal shot damage

[elfin merlin]

honestly wasnt rly harder than the other ones

I find it in this game once you have most of the clocks, and you use good builds, rly no mission is hard

its challenging but I almost never fail a mission.
Tho I always play with a friend, we always play haz 5, only 2 players. I never played with 4 players tho or randoms

[jolly hazel]

heavy hitter is pretty good

[torpid solar]

The same thing happened to us, the ghost and a bulk detonator were blocking the exit tunnel during extraction

[formal viper]

Sounds like a job for the driller

[strong robin]

we thankfully had a guy kite the ghost on the second to last large room... well until it spawned like 6 praetorians and 2 oppressors on him in one swarm lmao

[vocal portal]

Got somewhat carried by two fellow greybeard in edd . Funniest part- edd3 was the simplest of them all. First stage was pretty rough for me personally- i hate shield disruption and stage 2 was rough for all the team- leeches and some stupid mistakes almost killed us. Edd 3 was a breese though- classic dreadnought with big open cave to kite him and his ghostly friend wasnt a problem at all. If my teammates are here- rock and stone comrades , you are the best https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/657267707338686494/1010210586396741672/20220819165622_1.jpg?width=1199&height=674

[quasi sleet]

lmao the driller's revives/downs must have been on purpose

[vocal portal]

He's just new to haz5 and the entire deep dive thing. He was pretty good though, we all were , i guess

[echo storm]

biggest thing in haz 5 people gotta adjust to is always be moving

[thorn jewel]

ABM

[strong robin]

yeah mission 1 felt a lot rougher than the other 2 without any shields and the constant annoying random swarmers

[wraith shard]

Saw the biggest swarm ever on EDD-3 i think it was 4 praetorians and a oppressor and then another 4. We didn't make it out.

[jolly hazel]

cryo grenade moment

[echo storm]

my favourite feeling is when i am killin some grunts then i light it up and realise there are way more than i thought

[strong robin]

yeah we got lucky because they all attacked the same guy so easy pickings while they nibble on the downed engi

[onyx crypt]

Bringing back curvy meandering pipes reminds me how much they give you a breather and let you shoot at stuff with free strafing basically. Straight pipes are basically a teleport where you mainly are ineffective.

[granite mantle]

Did anyone else get absolutely bonkers spawn rates for the second EDD stage?

Felt like the whole fucking planet of bugs was after us

[placid bison]

Haunted cave is a nightmare solo

[modern girder]

Haunted cave + Hiveguard + stabber vines and leeches all over the only room for the stage ended my two solo attempts.

[lusty shuttle]

Honestly felt like the second stage of the Deep Dive was way harder than anything in the EDD this week. The most difficult part was not getting annoyed with Molly for being so slow in the last stage of the EDD that the horror caught up with her.

There were tons of praetorian pack swarms and it made me wish I didn't choose this EDD as the time to try out the more ammo, less damage overclock for the coilgun, though. Would've been piss easy if I brought volatile bullets and fire rockets.

[torpid solar]

Someone popped all the eggs at the same time in my run, so we had a pretty massive swarm

[tacit jungle]

classic scout moment, you shoot a flare and then immediately wish you haven't

[worldly owl]

Whats the elite dives modifiers for the three mission parts?

oop, its in pins isn't it.

[ebon anchor]

I don't think edd should be the time to test builds lol

[granite mantle]

ouef

[ember otter]

Lot of dreads this time it seems, and 2 haunted caves as well :(

[limpid pond]

Glad we're finally getting some somewhat rougher EDDs, had a blast with this one too

[echo storm]

really puts the name elite in elite deep dive

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/1010390396905463898/20220819202905_1.jpg?width=1155&height=650

EDD was fun

[lofty parrot]

We murdered the dreads in the DD. Went pretty smoothly.

EDD was pretty chill except for the secret swarmegadon on S1 and the annoying haunted dread on S3

[worldly owl]

Our normal DD went amazing.
The EDD had around 40 deaths between two players and we never got a break; round 1 & 2 where easy until round three where everything was terrible.

That big room with the giant crevice was literal hell.

Our scout went down like 21 times, driller 23, engineer 5 and gunner 9.

We kept the ghost in the room the entire time because I kept running across platform areas as engie to revive people.

I had around 700 ore mined and over 600 kills.

[oak jay]

EDD. Stage 3. Haunted. Random Dread. Hiveguard. Minimal Nitra. Most fun I've had in ages.

[ornate badger]

damn if you were in my edd that just crashed my apologies

annoying af i bet

[oak jay]

No crash! The last stage was just not kind to traversing.

[unique ore]

apparently in the edd, we had 2? dreads spawn after calling the pod? Not sure, but there was 3 health bars, a lacerator and 2 arbalests. Or it was just bugged health bars

[past drum]

that leech room was funny with like 3 nexuses and 2 ballers

cleared it before my team got there

[unkempt lantern]

DD was great, my squad ran out of ammo a lot and I got around 200 pickaxe only kills

[past drum]

used all 3 heightened senses

[dusky beacon]

How can i learn this power

Of getting 1 more HS

[ornate badger]

that was a rough one

EDD

pretty close calls on every stage

[lofty parrot]

You can upgrade perks later in the perk point progression

[dusky beacon]

i know

But max is 2 HS

[lofty parrot]

First one is the scout going before you

[swift sierra]

A 4-man i was a part of got 5 bulk detonators on our elite deep dive. what are the chances?

[dusky beacon]

Uh

Not that tiny

[past drum]

its 3

(i hope it is)

i just looked it up and its 2 apparently

im pretty sure i used all of them anyway...

sory

[daring helm]

Urgh, I am now in a bad mood, and sorry to the people who were with me, but just crashed whilst hosting final stage of EDD 😦 had a good team too

[ornate badger]

F

[gray bough]

bruh i kept getting one on the first elite stage aswell

ive been getting so many recently

[swift sierra]

Same. Didn’t expect 5 total though

[gray bough]

any crassus at least?

[severe tusk]

I am pretty sure that Crassus Detonators do not spawn in Deep Dives. At least I have never seen one.

[gray bough]

oh damn

[fresh ivy]

Haunted cave and a dreadnaught isn’t fun!

[wraith shard]

Oh man the last level of the EDD was a freakin' pain in the ass.

Double detonator spawn occurred, fought the dread, was on our way to the next cavern and ANOTHER dread spawned.

We somehow made it.

[drowsy hollow]

disconnected right after we made it to stage 3 of the EDD 😕

genuinely feel bad for my team, they were nice guys

we were a team of 3 without a scout but honestly the LOK-1 made the entire leech cluster thingy a lot more trivial

[lusty shuttle]

I feel like it was less "leech cluster" and more "spitballer cluster" this week.

[normal gull]

During the whole deep dive the ghost didn’t even bother my team lmao

We saw him in the spawn room, we left to do the mission, and never saw him again

Except for the last 10 seconds of the round at the drop pod

[fresh ivy]

Lmao it was on my ass the entire game

[ionic bloom]

The deep dive was alright

[oak jay]

The last EDD level is honk.

Running low on Nitra. Ghost, and random Dread spawn? That triggered the Hiveguard? I felt personally attacked.

[jolly hazel]

low on nitra?

last dread is classic, not a hiveguard

[safe gulch]

Come to think of it

When it comes to EDDs

[violet mauve]

is it just me or is the second stage kinda hard of the regular DD especially when you try to get that egg over the dreadnought egg and you summon the thing by accident

It's pretty hard. One of the eggs is in a really bad spot.

[safe gulch]

The 'pro filters' have consistently always been either "Lethal Enemies", "Shield Disruption", salvage missions and black boxes

Unless I'm imagining things?

I admit that the one incredibly frustrating part is stage 1's blackbox

Shield Disruption and bowling balls everywhere? No effing thank you, never again

Like, have you ever seen half a dozen of Qronars popping out of the floor and coming whizzing towards the black box, gaining some airtime after hitting a slope like they some biker gang?

Getting thrown hard enough to touch the ceiling is a bonus, too

Weird how it happens, strange that it happened, doesn't make it any less anger-inducing when it does and will happen

Thankfully engie just rage-switch to HP grenade launcher and just murdered any balls he saw, and everything was Gucci again

And that was my tedtalk 🍺

[tacit merlin]

God damn i was on the last stage of the edd and i disconnected

[violet mauve]

Did you host?

[tacit merlin]

Nah

[violet mauve]

Then you can rejoin.

Well, usually.

[ornate badger]

Idk how the reconnecting works

Hasn't worked for me so far

Only if my game crashes? Maybe the trick is to altf4 if I see myself lagging

[violet mauve]

If you play with friends you can see what they're doing in Steam overlay.

[stark stream]

Question! Does the (Elite) Deep Dives Completed stat at the KPI terminal increase if I do repeat dives in a single week? Wanna keep track of how many weeks I've completed!

Edit: in case anyone's wondering, it doesn't! You can keep track of how many weeks you've completed without any issue!

[fervent tinsel]

When does deep dive reset?

for the matrix cores i mean

[ornate badger]

You can only get 3 cores from each dive

Per week

So it resets every week

[fervent tinsel]

can you also get them from elite if you did the normal one already

or is it 3 totall

[ornate badger]

3 from each yea so

3 normal dive
3 elite dive
3 from core hunt assignment

I now see that saying each didn't really help specify

Mb

[fervent tinsel]

Oh so 9 total every week

[ornate badger]

Yep

[fervent tinsel]

Aaah i see, thanks a lot!

[normal gull]

yeah the second stage of the regular dd was surprisingly difficult

i spawned in and immediately fell into the giant pit lol and spent a while running out dealing with the evil plants and everything at the start

[violet mauve]

Plus the 2 you get from forging.

[silk trench]

hows the edd this week?

[silk trench]

plus one from forging 5 of them

so 10 total

which if you're lucky, means you'll get 11

[echo storm]

lethal enemies fungus bogs with poor map generation separates the wheat from the chaff

distinctly remember a lethal enemies fungus bogs edd with point extraction being stage 3

[severe tusk]

I personally find Hollow Bough to be worse.

[lusty shuttle]

Not as bad as last week.

[soft trellis]

I thought last week was easier

[safe gulch]

The Qronars, watch out for the bowling balls

[quasi cove]

definitely saw my 2 greenbeards get striked out multiple times

[grizzled valley]

what are some consistent scout builds for higher difficulties? I understand that a lot of stuff works, but I was hoping there were at least a few OCs and perks that stand out. I'm currently using Drak/Shotgun w/ Born Ready, Second Wind, Vampire, Iron Will, and Dash

[safe gulch]

Decent as is - DRAK with thermal bullets is a solid contender, electrocute and ignited to keep the heavier bugs entertained, or swarmer control

Shotgun you can do with special powder for mobility and emergency escapes

[grizzled valley]

I only have the ammo regen on overheat so far and I'm liking that quite a bit

I'm also already using special powder for those reasons

[safe gulch]

Rewiring is good, though you'll suffer in DPS

Second Wind you can opt for a different perk - as scout, you do most of your moving with your hook

Can either do sweet tooth if you get hurt often, or deep pockets for Nitra mining

[grizzled valley]

that's fair, honestly

I could probably also drop Born Ready because I only have 2 equipment to reload, and both of them get that perk

[safe gulch]

Born Ready is decent, flare and run, saves a little time

Shotgun too if you are in a contested fight

[grizzled valley]

I liked it quite a bit with the AR and just never switched off of it

[safe gulch]

All in all, I'd say fairly decent

Things I would replace are Second Wind and Dash

Dash for either Field Medic or Heightened Senses

[grizzled valley]

I like dash a little bit because you can sprint during an earthquake if you're in trouble

[safe gulch]

True true

[grizzled valley]

it also lines up somewhat well with the grapple cooldown

[safe gulch]

Again, I'd simply use the grappling hook for every situation, but if it works, it works

[grizzled valley]

I don't have the game open rn, but I think I'm doing range upgrades instead of cooldown. I get 30m

[safe gulch]

Range is good

Most common set among scouts I think is one cooldown, one range, and faster winch retract to throw yourself further

[grizzled valley]

That sounds like what I'm using, maybe

[severe tusk]

I use 11222 Impact Deflection DRAK with 11232 Embedded Detonators Zhukovs and IFGs as my generalist build for Scout. AoE DRAK with IFGs helps you deal with swarms, and you never have to worry about those pesky swarmers again. And ED Zhukovs lets you deal massive damage quickly to large enemies, including dreads, made even better with IFGs (which also helps your teammates by increasing their damage and by slowing bugs to make them easier to shoot).

DRAK used to be better, but they nerfed it a couple of times. It takes a little getting used to leading targets at medium and long range since its projectiles are slower, but it's effective enough at range once you get used to it. Alternatively, 23211 Hipster M1000 with ED Zhukovs (or several Shotgun or Crossbow builds) and Cryo Grenades is super strong, but I gave it up for AoE DRAK because I just like never having to worry about swarmers.

[torn verge]

M1000, 13211 with pretty much any overclock but hipster; i prefer ASS or hoverclock. not that hipster is bad, it just wants a completely different mod setup. this one can kill up to 4 grunts in a row with a focus shot, or just shoot into a crowd and clear grunts with 2 blowthrough bodyshots. also has focus shot stun to better set up cryo minelets on praes and menaces.

Zhukovs, 13212 Cryo Minelets; an incredibly flexible overclock. Use blowthrough to shoot bugs and set up cryo minelets below them at the same time. freeze a row of bugs, kill them all in a single m1k blowthrough shot. freeze a prae and shoot it to death with m1k. set down some cryo mines and draw swarmers into them. shoot the base of a brood nexus or spitballer to freeze it without using a cryo nade.

and ofc cryo grenades; sometimes you need something frozen right now or you need to freeze a bunch of mactaera or a naedo breeder. you can also semi-reliably freeze dreads by yourself with 2 mags of cryo minelets and a cryo nade, if they stand still long enough. works best on the twins.

[wraith shard]

this week's EDD isnt so bad, since for some kind of miracle, the refinery doesnt have evil pumpjack and terrain generation. Shield Disruption is back, but its only in stage 1 so its not even bad, stage 3 with haunted cave is the worst compared to the 2 but still not that bad, i cant really complain about the ghost bulk since im playing as Scout, so i cant relate with any of the ghost bulk problems

imo this week's EDD is easy compared to last week with the funny refinery terrain generation

[severe tusk]

Yeah, I was Scout, so it wasn't too hard for me to avoid getting any downs, thanks the caves being good sized. My teammates had a time of it though with the ghost and all of the rollers.

[modest delta]

Did the hiveguard on 2nd stage DD bug out for anyone else?

it simply stopped spawning sentinels and was unkillable

[severe tusk]

This has happened to me a few times. Go up to it, and get it to bite you. That should fix the problem.

[modest delta]

we all did cause it was a 4 man group

he simply was not attacking anyone

just runnin' around. arms flailin'

[severe tusk]

Weird, I don't know then. Sometimes one Sentinel will get stuck somewhere and slowly dig to the fight, but I am guessing that wasn't your issue either.

[modest delta]

no cause you can hear them digging

and this was not the case.

[mint fiber]

The overclock rewards are the same for all players (referring to the second part of the deep dives), as I got what I was looking for from there for a long time and I want a friend to try to get this reward too?

[modest delta]

afaik no. When you get an Overclock its random from your pile of Unowned OCs.

but hey I could be wrong. I've just gotten different ones to my friends ones plenty of times.

[torn verge]

i've heard that if that happens, if you walk up to the hiveguard and let him hit you that'll reset his AI and he'll spawn the sentinels
i haven't had the chance to try it out though

so don't quote me or anything
don't screenshot this

[modest delta]

again. We did try, it didn't work

he wasn't attacking

[lofty parrot]

Have gunner throw a shield on it

[modest delta]

mmm. that might've worked. didnt think about it at the time

we have long since quit out

[hoary cove]

throw a shield on him and that’ll reset the ai pretty consistently

there was a time at the start of season 2 where the glitch was a lot more common then normal, so i ended up doing it a lot

[misty perch]

I managed to complete this week's EDD with 4 drillers

1 flame, 1 sludge and 2 cryo

[hoary finch]

i just completed a edd but the third stage didn't have the ghost bulk detonator

it still had the warning

[strange granite]

interesting. why would this work though?

[strange granite]

lucky you. i have tried this week's EDD atleast 15 times. Failed all those times.

hate how rng the swarm is in the first depth. atleast 3 times, the swarm wa a joke but the other times, it was impossible to kill them. the most overwhelming shit I have seen so far

[hoary finch]

the only thing i found was a normal detonator digging to me

[strange granite]

got even 2 dets in the first mission. it was crazy.

[hoary finch]

the first mission was kinda annoying because i had the drak with the shield overclock idk what its called

[sour jolt]

For me the third mission was the hardest

Almost party wiped against the dread while the horror kept fucking us up.

[signal sinew]

hello deep divers

I fell in the EDD3 hole

I am salty

our gunner DC'd and the remaining team had shit damage vs the dread

[severe tusk]

Were there half a dozen rollers in the hole to greet you after you fell?

[signal sinew]

no, there was instead the dread and the ghost

[naive thunder]

any tips for this weeks deep dive? I keep wiping on the 3rd map.

[severe tusk]

The regular Deep Dive or the EDD?

[signal sinew]

the designated fight room has a well-hidden hole somewhere

[naive thunder]

EDD

[signal sinew]

oh, yeah, DD or EDD

[severe tusk]

Are you solo or do you have a team?

[signal sinew]

wiping implies team

[naive thunder]

i had a team on 3 attempts

[signal sinew]

your team needs to be good about moving

like getting the morkite done and then going straight into the next room without dawdling

[severe tusk]

If the ghost is giving you problems, you can have the driller go sludge pump to slow it.

[signal sinew]

sludge is good vs dreads anyway, so that checks out

though you'll now need someone else to take care of the mactera in stage 1

[naive thunder]

it's always on that room with the big hole in t he middle, somehow someone always falls in it and things fall apart

[signal sinew]

that's me today

[naive thunder]

it has too much going on

[signal sinew]

now that I am aware of the hole I intend to plug it as engy

[severe tusk]

Yeah, it's actually really good vs. the OC dread, which is on stage 3 as well.

[signal sinew]

if I can remember where it is

[naive thunder]

spitters, then mactera, then a detonator spawns, then comes a wave

[signal sinew]

lots of small critters too

[severe tusk]

Have the Engie make a few platform bridges over the chasm.

[signal sinew]

@severe tusk I was the engy who only discovered the hole by falling in it in the middle of the dread fight

😦

[naive thunder]

i guess i'll try

[severe tusk]

The far side from the entry point to that room could use a platform ledge too.

[naive thunder]

but it's tricky because there's a detonator

[signal sinew]

shoot detonator enough times

and it stops being a detonator

[strong robin]

well or it starts to be one

then it suddenly stops

[signal sinew]

this EDD3 has a tricky combination of stuff

[severe tusk]

Honestly a sludge pump driller should make that dread fight with the ghost trivial, if he's able to keep them both slowed most of the time. There is a specific build that makes them crawl.

[signal sinew]

the first two stages want lots of crowd control then it checks for your boss damage in stage 3

my previous team having a flamethrower driller was definitely a liability, lol

but also I want to be the engy so I can plug the hole in stage 2 bb

best use of 20 platforms in my life

gonna farm magnite for executioner

I need more boss deeps in the build

[severe tusk]

If you really hate fighting in that room on stage 3 of the EDD you could also have someone pull the dread to the spawn room, but it make take a while to get there and you would definitely want a way to slow the dread (again sludge pump driller is the best way).

[signal sinew]

spawn is sooo far away tho

tho that would be okay if the drop pod goes there

[vague sun]

I found the EDD marginally easier than the regular DD

[hoary finch]

are deep dives better for xp than normal missions?

[strong robin]

i would say they are actualy worse, deep dives only give you like 1.5 times a regular mission for 3 missions in terms of xp from my experience so far and they can't have double xp

[jolly hazel]

worse

don't grind deep dives

[severe tusk]

You also don't get crafting minerals in Deep Dive stages unless you happen across and kill a Huuli hoarder.

[tardy ice]

a bridge in the dread room and a couple ziplines and a goo driller and yeah, 3rd stage of the EDD is pretty simple

[fallow spear]

how many dreads in EDD this week

o only 1, not bad

[candid bobcat]

remember that chances of getting a special dread swarm for missions that don't forbid them are low but never zero

[boreal ginkgo]

Anyone have any tips for the elite deep dive

[wraith shard]

First stage was tough because no shield, but the otheres were fine. Had a great team

[strong robin]

stay alive a decent beer is generaly not a bad idea, dark morkite can save a couple rooms in the last one, extra health is extra health and melee cooldown is also not a bad idea. for the black box we had a driller dig a bunker but i stayed outside as a scout on the gunner zipline to clear oppressors or other nonsense

[normal gull]

First stage edd was a surprisingly easy refinery spawn

Normally refineries on the dd’s are horrible

[strong robin]

yeah only 1 of them was a bit annoying to get to

had driller dig a deathtrap tunnel to the blackbox one

[astral sparrow]

Stage 1: The Refinery itself is a cakewalk. Just be on the lookout for the little rolly polly fuckers during blackbox and get ready to shred bulks if it shows it's face.

Stage 2: Just be on the lookout for some jank leeches, but besides that business as usual.

Stage 3: Be careful of the egg room, terrain is pretty wonky with a huge ravine flowing through the room. Get your engi to drop some platform bridges to kite the ghost and Dread and you should be good. Normal Bulks apparently in the spawn pool also, so be aware of that.

Also, I think if you grab all the morkite you see, you can finish the mission without entering the last room. You just have to enter the tunnel before it. I don't remember drinking Dark Morkite for the EDD, but I could be wrong

[strong robin]

sounds about right. You can also have a dedicated ghost kiter (the scout usualy, he can easily join in to revive a person even from a cave away while not being in much danger by the ghost) while the rest casualy takes out the dread

[astral sparrow]

Sludge pump driller is a god send for making the fight way easier than it should be

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[unkempt lantern]

EDD stage 1 is straight up bs

[jolly hazel]

how

its very wide open

[lost night]

Shield distribution, and so many bugs, and also younglings

Okay I don't mind the swarms of bugs but the Younglings quite annoying to deal with unless you use Zipline or ask Driller to make a special pit for them

[jolly hazel]

stay off ground level

shield disruption is frustrating ya, but at least its only haz 4.5

[lost night]

Lucky stage 1 only had few Mactera

[wraith shard]

I like how we got a natural hiveguard spawn at EDD stage 3 💀

[lusty shuttle]

I had that happen last week.

I feel like Hiveguards are the most dangerous and tedious to fight.

[strange granite]

when i play cryocannon + cookie wave cutter driller solo in edd, i am able to handle everything except macteras and menace. i can handle one of those at a time but when 2-3 spawn along with other AI, it is just death

[calm jetty]

Easiest edd i have ever played in my life beat it without using my hands ezez

[worthy siren]

isnt cryo pretty strong against macteras?

[strong robin]

it does instant kill if they freeze, yes

[worthy siren]

ok, that's what I was thinking, thx

[lusty shuttle]

Try using Ice Spear against menaces. It one-shots them if you hit the glowing bit.

[strange granite]

it takes years to freeze them though

[strange granite]

sadly i don't have that yet

[lusty shuttle]

Cryo can freeze them quickly if you can get close enough and have that one mod that makes it freeze stuff faster if it's close to you.

[strong robin]

most mactera are also weak to corrosive and fire damage too, so driller really can't go too wrong against any of them

[past flame]

I just axe them

[jolly hazel]

also the massive weakspot bonus making subata actually good against them (plus subata mactera damage upgrade if you are using sludge)

[proper timber]

I can’t believe it

On the very last mission for the EDD

There is a cave leach

And it was the only one in the entire cave

It was as far back as it could possibly be

And I died to it

[torpid solar]

Sludge blast also insta-kills groups of mactera

[cursive bough]

what loadout should i bring for this weeks EDD

single target or swarm focused

[ornate badger]

One of each

There's a decent amt of swarm

[soft trellis]

For EDD my engi just nuked everything he saw

Easy win

[jagged surge]

What are the missions for the deep dives?

[cursive bough]

check the pins

[jagged surge]

K thanks

[ebon scaffold]

The entire DD this week made me cry the entire time.

Especially the haunted one

[silver gull]

the 3 cleeches were just the cherry on top

[ebon scaffold]

indeed

[fossil juniper]

deep dive final stage had a random spawn hiveguard
I LOVE INVULNERABILITY PHASES

[onyx crypt]

Anyone playing on a steam deck?

[strange granite]

that was rough. I started using that perk to alert me when something is trying to grab me. It is such a QOL perk. going to use it from now on

[proper timber]

I just think IW and dash are better

But it would have been very helpful there lol

[strange granite]

hmm interesting. actually dash would have saved you too from getting grabbed tbh

i am just tired of getting scouts who don't light up the roofs in a leech infested mission. like come on

[brave wind]

this current seed is extremely annoying, make sure u have a competent scout and gunner.

for normal deep dive at least, nitra on this seed is annoyingly hard to find until, 3rd phase, which is on-site refining.

[ionic spoke]

anybody got a hot minute to help with the DD for this week? looking for a 4th

[candid cypress]

which system?

[candid cypress]

provided you hear it in time!

[vapid lily]

man the second stage of the normal Dive was rough

the group I was doing it with accidentally popped the Dreadnaught cocoon in the middle of a swarm, so we had to both fight the swarm, dodge the Unknown Horror AND kill the Hiveguard before continuing with the other 4 eggs

[ionic spoke]

ahh, thanks for responding, we got it done but appreciate the notice!

[vapid lily]

we actually did it first try surprisingly, Hollow Bough is such a fun biome

[candid cypress]

its tied for worst, lmao

the caves for this DD are mangeable, all classes, but the haunted was a pain for my gunner whos mobility is garb

[civic igloo]

the haunted was ok, ghost got stuck

[fervent tinsel]

Do you run deep dive once a week, because i just did mine and i feel like i didn't get all 3 rewards from it

[severe tusk]

Deep Dives refresh weekly. You only get the core rewards for them once.

[fervent tinsel]

But you only need to do them once a week, once the normal and once the elite one

?

[severe tusk]

Yes.

[gleaming laurel]

For the 3/3 on EDD, scout kept the ghost distracted in spawn while we fought the dread in the large area near the cacoon

Then we switched, and I (gunner) kept him distracted while everyone else got the morkite

[jolly hazel]

lol we just fought them together, only kind of challenge we had in the edd

[tardy girder]

yeah you only need to do the deep dives once per week if you only want the cores

you can replay them, of course, but you won't get anything out of it besides credits and XP until the weeklies reset

[soft trellis]

Does EDD give more xp

[bronze grotto]

it's like 15K exp for 0:30-1:30 minutes of mission time, so, depending, yeah

[lime dirge]

We fought BET-C and twins at once

Wasn't that bad tbh

there were a lot of circles on the ground

[unkempt lantern]

me

[lime dirge]

wait DRG is on steam deck?

[unkempt lantern]

it could be worse but performance wise I can run ultra settings @ 60fps until I get bored

[unkempt lantern]

its on steam, ergo its on the deck. Rated as playable which is fair. UI components and text are small but actual gameplay is fine

[lime dirge]

lol

nice

if you have games on your steam, you also have them on steam deck right?

[unkempt lantern]

runs better than my shitbox laptop running a windows VM

[lime dirge]

lmfao

t e c h n o l o g y

[unkempt lantern]

the most annoying thing is the control scheme, mainly that the controller setup in DRG itself binds use and reload to the same key and you cant change that.

[lime dirge]

bruh

it could be worse imo

[unkempt lantern]

it could be a lot worse

the worst thing about playing on the steam deck is the color gamut of the display, its so bad.

and the battery life but thats already done to death everywhere

[trail pivot]

Drg is running on Deck? Gotta tell my casual bud

[random rampart]

kinda not the right chat lol

[unkempt lantern]

yeah

[shadow shoal]

It plays pretty well tbh, default controls are dog though

[minor jewel]

Stage 2 DD solo was exhausting. Oddly enough the rest was a cakewalk

[formal cedar]

when is reset for deep dives?

[karmic condor]

Wrong Channel, my apologies

[formal cedar]

thanks

[onyx crypt]

What could change about DRG to make it harder outside of sheer numbers?

[jolly hazel]

make some warnings permanent, like low oxygen and elite threat

(I know about elite threat)

More types of disruptives and all of them in the same spawn pool

more difficult cave generation

there's a lot

remove swarmer swarm

[trail pivot]

They could actually use ice. It's never remotely a threat in glacial strata. I've never once fell off because of it

[jolly hazel]

oh yeah make ice praetorians do something else lol

[trail pivot]

Usually just the walls that bounce me off

I mean smooth ice floors

[jolly hazel]

yeah making all floors in glacial icy would be cool

there's a fine line between fun and frustrating though like fungus bog goop

[trail pivot]

Quicksand in sandstone

Haha

A mix up biome, if not a random weather modifier

[ivory marten]

Wonder what the dive is this week.

[glad radish]

What is the deep dive Rn?

[rain jacinth]

Is an EDD easier to do solo? Or doesn't it matter?

Does more people add to the difficulty or is it just the same

[torpid solar]

Difficulty scales with the number of players, which includes things like the number of enemies that spawn and how much health they have.

[torn verge]

imo missions are easier the more players you have
because aoe doesn't care about how many bugs there are, it hits all of them
and if you have many sources of aoe you can cover many angles at once

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[echo storm]

lethal enemies

[sly aurora]

How are people finding this weeks deep dive? Are the rooms big to deal with haunted mine?

[severe tusk]

It's not awful.

[echo storm]

its easier than last week

[torn verge]

the haunted egg hunt level is pretty cramped

[fiery gazelle]

ok guys i need help on the EDD

lobby is called free beer (we need help!)

nvm i'll try again later

[old widget]

You’ll likely have better luck with the #lfg channel for your platform

[tidal lion]

where the hell is all the nitra in 2nd stage

[unkempt lantern]

EDD Stage 1 is straight up BS, I’m sure 2 and 3 are actually possible.

[jolly hazel]

of the edd?

[echo storm]

on par for your run of the mill edd

[unkempt lantern]

I’ve had actually doable EDD’s so I know they’re possible

[severe tusk]

I did it on the first try with a random group. I didn't even get downed once, so it wasn't that bad. Stage 3 was a little spicy though.

[jolly hazel]

all EDD's are doable

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[lime dirge]

all of them are doable but only some of them are not annoying to do if you don't play with friends

[fading lotus]

would someone like to help carry me and get my first deep dive win?

[jolly hazel]

#lfg-steam

[fading lotus]

what does ifg stand for?

[pale sigil]

lfg

looking for group

[drifting parrot]

why are there always so many dreadnoughts in the deep dives

[jolly hazel]

secondary objectives are limited

[drifting parrot]

there's 7 primary and 5 secondary options?

because Refining, Escort, and Point Extraction cannot be done on secondary, but Salvage was split into Mules and Blackbox, for -4 +2 objectives compared to primary

ah, additionally, secondarys will not be the same as primary, and additionally Black Boxes and Mini mule secondaries cannot be on certain other types

[jolly hazel]

no black box on salvage

and no moni mules

[drifting parrot]

no black box on escort

[jolly hazel]

on pe and refining

yeah but escort doesn't get dreads either

[drifting parrot]

true

still, it's moderately tiring as someone who wants to play these things solo that I gotta be prepared to kill dreads every step of the way

like you can usually scoot by on a sub-optimal loadout with 2 players, or if there's only the one dread

but with a total of 5 dreads that need to die this week, my preferred loadout is completely unviable solo (but would work fine in a team environ)

twins especially are brutal solo

okay this has been my dread rant, done now

[dark palm]

How long until the next deep dives?

[fossil tulip]

5 hours

[vague falcon]

Good

Get away from hollow boughs

Also hopefully no dreadnought secondaries

[marsh plover]

Can we get a triple doretta on EDD with dreadnoughts hiveguards cocoons on dozer's way?

In hollow bough of course

[cosmic valley]

When

[wraith shard]

I would like to donate my 10 morbillion credits to drg to fix the damn door planet scanner

Shit's taking a week for new scans, id like them to improve it and atleast make it scan new regions every 4 days

[torn verge]

fungus bogs 5 dreads pls

2 dreads/black box
escort/dread
2 dreads/2 eggs

[drowsy hollow]

Yay overclock day

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[candid bobcat]

please no rival presence

[wanton knot]

i waited too long to do the edd, was too busy this week

oh well, got to do the dd and weekly core at least

[violet mauve]

We did EDD yesterday.

Failed on stage 3 as always, naturally. But that's fine.

We got the important stuff.

[feral flame]

lets go new deep dive wooooo

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone!

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[past drum]

awesome

[past pumice]

Woooo!

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Noble Crib
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Classic) + 📡 1 Black Box | No Mutators
Stage 2: 7 Aquarq + 📡 1 Black Box | Critical Weakness Rival Presence
Stage 3: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | Elite Threat

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Glacial Strata | Code Name: Unrobed Legacy
Stage 1: 3 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Twins | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Twins) + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | Volatile Guts Exploder Infestation

[sly kettle]

Doesn't.. look too bad at first glance tbh.

[rugged vortex]

Now comes the deep dive discovery speedrun!

[lime dirge]

wow that was quick

[merry lagoon]

i love shield disruption!!!!!

[mortal cliff]

shield disruption again at the first stage of EDD

nice

[calm jetty]

Alr beat it

[subtle burrow]

normal dive 1st stage hiveguard + normal dread

[inner rover]

DD stage 2 is 7 aquarqs 1 black box rival presence

[sly kettle]

According to my Reddit thread. DD stage 2 is 7 aquarqs, black box, critical weakness and rival presence.

Oof. Someone was faster.

[inner rover]

I missed critical weakness

[small idol]

edd stage 2 is 2 dreads + 2 mules

[sly kettle]

Reddit thread guy says DD stage 3 is On-Site Refinery, Black Box and Elite threat.

[inner rover]

Yeah thats right

[small idol]

1st dread is a hiveguard

[ebon anchor]

Shield disruption twins 🤮

[potent vector]

sigh, is this going to be a triple dread EDD?

[thorn jewel]

triple dread triple mule incoming

[sly kettle]

..are you the reddit guy?

[small idol]

2nd one is twins

[potent vector]

jesus, just noticed

2x dread+mules

[potent jewel]

3 blackboxes lol

[vivid zinc]

200morkite black box / Volatile Guts

[potent vector]

stage 3 EDD?

[small idol]

3rd stage edd is 200 morkite + black box with exploder infestation + volatile guts

exploder infestation with volatile guts is kinda goofy ngl

[vivid zinc]

yeah i missed exploder infestation

[scarlet ravine]

so six of the last ten EDD's have had shield disruption

[ivory marten]

Triple Box.

Yeesh.

[blazing current]

Glacial strata nice

[echo storm]

hmm

[gilded gulch]

uhhhh to the 3 other dudes who were just in an edd with me

just had my first hard crash of drg

sorry about that

at least it was first stage :X

[sour pendant]

Big F

[drowsy hollow]

did EDD with 3 randoms, ended the run with 3 deaths, all of which took place in the 1st stage lol

[potent vector]

I had really bad fps drops in stage 2 of EDD

did anyone else experience it too?

[fluid lantern]

dd is super easy this time, but dear god the drop pod placement is terrible at the end

[potent vector]

yea if you don't have a driller for the DD, have fun I guess

there's a well that is very vertically high up on a small ledge

[ivory marten]

Ok so that hiveguard fight SUCKED.

[onyx crypt]

You think this game could ever use a medic class?

Random missions,add a medic, no sugar, permadeath.

[burnt sandal]

no

[swift jacinth]

i think a shaman like class that specializes in melee and medic stuff would work really well balance wise, thematically it makes no sense tho

[onyx crypt]

What other classes could you see as a fifth?

[burnt sandal]

Ah yes, the two things the developers said they will never do

[swift jacinth]

precisely

[lime dirge]

Medic would be entirely busted

imo

imagine having a machine dispensing infinite health on your team

[blazing current]

It doesn't fit the game really

[viscid seal]

Usually pve games that have medic are kinda annoying

Take KF2 for example, whoever medic targets is invincible if said target positions relatively well

[burnt sandal]

or the medic just becomes mandatory to get anything done in higher difficulty
looking at you Space Hulk

[viscid seal]

Exactly

If they add any healing nades in the next season, surely it will be meta.

[marsh quest]

So how are the dives

[burnt sandal]

wdym ?

[marsh quest]

Like

Easy

Hard

Are they gonna make me bang my head against a wall

[burnt sandal]

Normal DD are haz 3/3.5/3.5
Elite DD are haz 4.5/5/5.5

[marsh quest]

I meant the mission types

What do we gotta do

In this specific one

[burnt sandal]

check the pinned message

[marsh quest]

Ahh

That’s helpful

Thank

[burnt sandal]

no problem

[marsh quest]

Stage one edd sounds like ass

What does volatile guts exploder do

Some shockwave thing?

[random rampart]

no

just regular exploder stuff + volatile guts, i suppose

[viscid seal]

Somehow, last stage edd was the easiest

[lone agate]

how bad is the edd this week?

[muted creek]

Not that bad tbh

[lone agate]

rad

[cosmic valley]

yay

Tbh this edd/dd kinda easy

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/1012474568822247565/20220825143049_1.jpg?width=1155&height=650

[golden pilot]

How was last week's EDD difficulty relative to others? I did that one but it's the first I tried

[tall meadow]

Simple EDD

[wraith shard]

Do i only think that 3rd stage was the easiest and 1st stage was the hardest one?

[jolly hazel]

well its shield disruption static defense plus twins

versus a mining mission where the bug swarms literally kill themselves

[ember terrace]

my black box is floating

how

is there a limit to how far it can move from where it originally spawned?

because i tried to drop the box on stage 3 DD and it just wouldnt fall after like 4 satchels

[past drum]

glacial strata dives are pretty easy as long as you have a flamethrower driller/ vim engi

[violet mauve]

My friends and I have yet to beat an EDD.

We always die on last stage.

One day. One day.

[past drum]

cosmetic cores are not a big loss.. but good luck!

[violet mauve]

True, but not getting that core means no forging a 10th which subsequently means no forging an 11th.

So missing it means missing another 2 that week.

[buoyant wing]

better off taking it easy

once you run out of cores you run out of motivation aside from just the joy of gameplay/stocking up

[echo storm]

yeah now i just do it for completion

really wish i tried doing edds the first week i was able to do em

i only did the dd and solo'd stage 1 of the edd

[worthy briar]

best class for speedrunning this week's DD solo?

[worthy briar]

this week's final stage is ridiculously easy

so now's your chance

volatile guts makes exploder infestation a non-issue

it overrides the explode animation

the exploder swarms actively help actually

[echo storm]

hmm this edd wasn't hard it just took a long time cause everyone kept dying

[hardy oar]

@tawny prawn sorry about that, it lagged me out 😔

[lofty frigate]

edd was fine until our host lost connection after the first part

[wraith shard]

Gotta love it when I make an inconvenient pumpjack location a breeze to pipe up, and the rest of the crew loves it

[lusty shuttle]

Driller gaming?

[wraith shard]

Oh yeah.

Scout was griping about how the Engie needed to put up like 300 platforms and needed all these resups

I already had dug a tunnel to it xD

Just did a big V in the wall with a u-turn in the middle

I think people forget how versatile those drills are in the right hands

[thorn jewel]

I don’t even give the “300 platforms” strategy a consideration unless we dont have a driller lol

[signal sinew]

This EDD is pretty chill

Both literally and figuratively

just make sure your build can kill two dreads before running out of ammo, also not hard

and also don't fall into the really big hole in stage 2's big room

[hollow parrot]

man, why do some players disconnect/leave at the last stage

they rarely leave during the 1st or 2nd stage

[green hearth]

Because people suck?

[buoyant wing]

cosmetic core, not a gameplay upgrade so people get in the mentality of skipping rather than trying it

[lone agate]

still contributes to the forge mastery

[lone agate]

[wraith shard]

Those leaf lovers don't want drip? What a joke

[ivory marten]

Anyone want to help me with the Dive?

[mortal cliff]

Beardless behaviour

[fresh turtle]

I usually only skip getting the 3rd stage core on the EDD if it's a particularly exhausting dive and we fail the 3rd stage

But yeah I'm not just gonna leave in the middle of a dive

[torpid solar]

We just used the budget Driller, aka Rocky Mountain

[hollow parrot]

yea, that's also what I was thinking

tho, they leave at weird moments to make it look like they got disconnected

they usually help finish the first or second objectives before leaving

but at that point they should just finish the whole dive

[buoyant wing]

they might be crashing then

[signal sinew]

It turns out the longer you leave a toaster on, the likelier it is that it burns out

[worthy briar]

What the fuck is the drop pod spot on S3 DD

I did it as solo scout and had 0 issues up until that point

Where I actually almost lost the mission because I couldn't find a good grapple

I think I had to mountain goat

[green crown]

stage 3 dd is a monster
driller is a big yes on this one because the pipelines are so hard to access.
even the drop pod spot at the end is super annoying

[minor bronze]

For me it just happens. My connection to the server disappears and I get disconnected ;-;

[hollow parrot]

our driller left us after getting downed in stage 3 DD

[echo storm]

actually yea there were a lot of downs for a dd this week

mainly due to carelessness but still

[alpine raptor]

And the left hands.

[wraith shard]

Use one for a hat

[upper geyser]

we won EDD, and it was pretty much just "Beat face and you'll do fine", but I want to redo that on account that it was frustrating having a scout who randomly went afk every once in a while and an engi who didn't pay much attention to pings or enemies well

Driller and I had like 30 Revs by the end

[blazing current]

EDD is very easy compared to the shit we had 2 weeks ago

Also tip for engi, plasma burster carries hard

[twilit drift]

EDD this week was a walk in the park compared to last week

[quasi sleet]

I said the same thing last week

[echo storm]

last week was definitely tougher

although this one took longer

[main sage]

had to carry the team of randoms i encountered for this week's EDD pretty hard

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1771624326939694938/84CFBAEEC8217608BB1F5385B792FD0238E90298/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

despite it being a fairly easy dive

the 1 down was from an exploder on stage 3 while i was distracted of course 🙄

[wanton knot]

dd was pretty smooth, just one annoying pumpjack on stage 3. bring a driller for that lmao

[wraith halo]

on god I just spent half an hour looking for hiveguard sentinels on stage 2 EDD

we got softlocked cause they didn't spawn

[main sage]

hate when that happens

[sonic moth]

I got to the last stage of the DD yesterday in a group of 3 scouts and a gunner for the meme and all was going well until my internet decided to shit itself on the last stage

[burnt sandal]

melee it until it reacts and spawn them, or throw a shield in his face

[wraith halo]

we were smacking the thing for half an hour

it was in it's shell state after taking damage

[main sage]

yea shield can fix hiveguard softlock

supposedly bouncing on it can too

though i havent tried that

[wraith halo]

damn wish I knew that

we meleed and jumped on it but didn't try shield

[upper zenith]

any tips for this week’s edd?
i havent tried it yet but i wanna see if theres anything i can avoid so i dont burst out crying

[hollow nova]

is it particularly hard to get random players to join a deep dive?

[upper zenith]

did you set the dd to be public?

it's on private by default (for me at least)

[hollow nova]

no, im just asking in general

like, does it take long

[upper zenith]

in my experience I don't think so

[tall meadow]

no it should normally not take long

if you host a DD or EDD within the first few days of new dives

you should have folks

weekends will see plenty of folks also doing them

This week EDD is same old same old, nothing too special as usual

just keep eyes open and you'll be fine

[astral sparrow]

Stage 1 EDD: Standard Salvage mission, I think there are leeches so be careful of that. My premade and I couldn't find a nice spot to fight the twins, but shouldn't be too much of a problem at Haz 4.5.

Stage 2: The Hiveguard's egg is in the cylindrical room, the other egg is obviously the Twins. 1st mule shouldn't be too hard to find, I believe it's in the Hiveguard egg room if memory serves. But the 2nd mule is in some random ass side tunnel thats blocked up by a black rock, so keep your eyes on your scanner for signs of a another room.

Stage 3: Ez Morkite mission, Black box is in a aite spot at the tailend of the map. Had a run in with a RNG Twins, which was pretty hysterical but made it out fine.

Oh yeah, and I think Bulks are in the spawn pool for Stage 2. But need someone to fact check that

Can't remember the exact stage, but I'm almost certain it's 2

[fading valley]

play it super safe in the fist mission, the two afterwards are easy in comparison

[upper zenith]

thank you kind dwarves

[unreal copper]

did the dd solo for the first time this week -> last stage was annoying

but internet has been unreliable for me recently, so there was no real alternative

[ornate badger]

far out that dd stage 3 pod is annoying

got inside with 3 seconds to go

[wraith shard]

This week's EDD wasn't bad at all just like last week

But this is the first time I had a bet C during an EDD which was fun and chaotic lol

[ornate badger]

edd not too bad

got carried a bit

[lofty parrot]

EDD isnt too bad. With a decent team it would be fine but we had a braindead second driller who made random trenches and holes everywhere

[wraith shard]

Player count in EDD is low-key important, I find EDD duo with a below decent partner to be much easier than a full team that is also below decent-tier.

[fresh turtle]

just looked at the EDD lineup and exploder infestation+volatile guts is very funny

basically cancel each other out

or one cancels out the other anyway

[drifting parrot]

no twins on the regular dive

that's good for me, an idiot who struggles to solo twins compared to the other two

[ornate badger]

Solo dd was pretty easy

And yea fried agreed, I should try more duos

It is nice to have the full team but I feel like we get outscaled usually

[arctic terrace]

abc to be my friend

[fresh ivy]

What’s the dd like this week

[burnt sandal]

pinned messages

[ivory marten]

Be prepared for bullshit at the last stage.

The pod is gonna spawn at a real dogshit place.

[fading valley]

numerically speaking, the game is better balanced for 2 player scaling than anything

3+ the various values start getting scaled silly

[burnt sandal]

if by better balanced you mean easier, then yeah I guess

[fading valley]

referring to coefficients between the player total and the actual scaled percentages

[atomic prawn]

2p is pretty easy 😂

[fading valley]

two entire less people to fuck everything up

[warm reef]

Just finished the dd and oh boy it was brutal this week

[serene delta]

EDD ruined by bet-C

ree

[royal magnet]

R.I.P

[blazing turret]

We almost nuked the 2nd stage on the DD, because someone rammed the button on the first with 0 nitra & ammo... I could just barely hookshot to enough nitra for a single drop...

I want to try the EDD, but havent yet done one. Is this a good beginners EDD?

[blazing current]

I stopped at the edge to ping betc, but game decided to catapult me down, kills me and triggering the bet-c

[blazing turret]

F

[royal magnet]

This week is a bit more beginner friendly than the past few weeks. I think you should go for it

[blazing turret]

Allright, Ill give it a go. Shield disruption seems a bit tough, but at least its the first.

[polar wyvern]

yeah this is by far the easiest EDD I've seen yet, though I only have seen 10 or so

[blazing turret]

I feel like vampirism is a good counter to shield disruption

[royal magnet]

Yeah the first one I found the toughest this week. Vampirism is good if you have iron will as well

[polar wyvern]

I still failed it twice. first because a guy "went afk for eating" during a whole mission, the other because a guy activated the black box "by mistake". not sure if I want to waste 1h30 for another try, or go solo but it's so boring though

well it's only a cosmetic OC anyway, and you still get the 2 bonus OC in the forge if you just 2/3 the EDD

[burnt sandal]

should have kicked the first guy tbh

[polar wyvern]

yeah Idk why I didn't in retrospect, I didn't even occurred to me during the game. I was like "keep calm just do the mules while we wait for him"

then the twins + the hiveguard popped at the same time

[burnt sandal]

happens

[polar wyvern]

yeah but still kinda frustrating in EDD because of the length

[blazing turret]

.. Dont start an EDD if mom is almost done with dinner...

to the guy I mean

[polar wyvern]

that's what I thought it had to be a 10 year old or something

but even at 10 years old you can compute that EDD+dinner is not gonna work out

[random spindle]

always bring driller in DD this week. hope they concern about escape pod landing in bad position and the door that faced in the wall.

[radiant halo]

had a nemesis spawn on the third stage of the dd, wasn't too much of an issue but definitely a surprise

[unkempt lantern]

I wish all GSG a very stop having shield disruption on EDD stage 1

[trail pivot]

No please no more black box

[lyric zodiac]

All black box objectives is easier by MILES, especially compared to the all dreadnought objectives from the last couple weeks

“Why yes sir, I’ll happily fight 5 bosses in a single run, thank you!”

[strange granite]

Where do i see what the missions for this week's edd are?

[fossil tulip]

Pinned message

[strange granite]

pinned messgaes in this channel were made in 2021

Edit : nvm

[fossil tulip]

They are updated weekly

[polar wyvern]

you prefer on stage 3...?

[unkempt lantern]

Yeah, because I almost never do those.

[drifting parrot]

I'm really glad I didn't try the DD solo

I would not have done nearly as well stage 3

[echo storm]

if u have never done an edd this is a good one cause its hard enough to be called edd

but not hard enough that everyone has to be good

so long as 2 people know what they are doing it'll be fine

[jolly hazel]

thats quite an ask

[potent jewel]

Stage three of the deep dive as a gunner sure was terrible

I had to dig through the wall for the second pipe

[echo storm]

well when i did it there were 2 guys who were definitely a little more dying prone

[lofty fox]

How hard is this weeks EDD 1/10 ?

[waxen verge]

at a glance looks like a 4

[hollow nova]

what time do deep dives reset?

[upper geyser]

For EST Time Zone, 7 AM Thursday

[hollow nova]

thanks

[sharp shadow]

fyi pod placement of this weeks deep dive made me cry

[main sage]

pretty sure pod placement dependent on the location you call the pod

[wraith shard]

do the location of the morkite wells change in deep dives

because if they don't, the location of 2 of them is absolute dogshit for a solo scout

[jolly hazel]

no

[wraith shard]

Wait (relatively new to dd)
So every dive is the same?

Or is my chronic idiotitis flaring up again

[strange granite]

Tbh this week's edd is very very easy imo. With a decent one, it will be done with no trouble

[strange granite]

No they are different every week

[echo storm]

well if u have done an edd before this is whatever

this is a first try edd lol

piss poor map gen and limited nitra immediately makes it way harder

flashback to fungus bogs

[wraith shard]

I mean like
Each weeks dive is the same

[lusty shuttle]

Do Deep Dives actually have more frequent non-standard swarms (packs of praetorians, swarmers, etc), or does it just seem that way?

[hidden grove]

Yes. Everybody gets the same DD and the same EDD. So you can strategize doing it over again, or commiserate failures when everybody dies to the same Surprise Council of Spitballers

[drifting parrot]

did anyone else get like 5 elite menaces?

because my crew had like 5 menaces, 2 praets, and a slasher as elites

[signal sinew]

I kinda forgot

is this week's DD driller mandatory

[scarlet ravine]

driller highly recommended for stage 3

one well is way up high and another is behind a wall

[proven light]

I did it with solo engie, but it probably took half an hour for stage 3 alone

[signal sinew]

what's a good solo driller build for it

I don't have VIM so dread gonna be sloooow

[drifting shore]

I did it with solo flamethrower, but it probably took half an hour for the hiveguard alone

[lofty parrot]

ice spear does nice damage

[signal sinew]

ice spear does work yeah. Don't have that either tho

[wraith shard]

Ice spear users when the dreads thawed off before the ice spear hits them

[lusty shuttle]

"Oh no, I only did good burst damage instead of insane burst damage!"

[thick jetty]

sludge blast is...an option
i don't like it but i hear a lot of folks do

[peak hatch]

i use sludge blast because management refuses to give me literally any other overclock for the pump

it's definitely one of the overclocks of all time

[jolly hazel]

sludge blast is absolutely amazing generalist oc

it does full damage to classic at all times/hiveguard when butt is exposed

I think it does full dmg regardless of armor on twins

just running away from classic works and u are burning its hp

and it does fine versus chaff because sludge pump

only thing it struggles with is high up enemies, like every other driller primary

and even then sludge blast chsrged shot velocity can cover almost every part of the cave

[thick jetty]

I just find myself running out of ammo a lot

It's probably a skill issue on my end but ah well

[minor forge]

does anyone want to do edd?

[jolly hazel]

take -1 ammo charge cost mod, but solo you should have a shitton of ammo

[hoary finch]

i just had a network error on a edd at the end of the third mission

im so sorry to the 3 other chads i was playing with that got disconnected

[stoic summit]

assuming no OCs, 13212 Sludge Pump and 22121 CWC should get you through it just fine

[jolly hazel]

stage 3 edd exploders are completely nullified by volatile guts lol

[half patrol]

What’s the stage 3 for EDD?

[blazing current]

Explosive guts with exploder infestation

1 blackbox, 250 morkite iirc

[burnt sandal]

check the pinned message

[copper cedar]

Same thing happened to me about an hour ago. Very frustrating

[lofty parrot]

i was hosting and got a full on crash at S3. Too much happening when we dropped ig

[wanton knot]

edd was smooth, way easier than some of the other weeks

had only like one hiccup on one of the dread fights and had to do an extra damage phase but it wasn't too bad lol

[terse summit]

This happened to me after we completed the 2nd stage

[hoary finch]

what was so sad about mine was that we were just waiting for molly to come to the drop pod

and then we would have finished

and the people i was playing with said that it took them like 10 tries to beat the edd

[ornate badger]

Tragic

[copper cedar]

I think the worst thing about that isn't the 1 less core, but the fact it doesn't show up as a completed edd

[potent jewel]

Oh yeah on stage one of the edd, when i looked in the direction of like, the entrance of the salvage drop pod, my frames got hella fucked

Happened with another person who was in my game

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[normal gull]

nah

[queen patrol]

i think ima pass on 2 salvage missions in a row

[wicked frigate]

i was doing weekly priority missions

ALL THREE OF THEM WERE IN HOLLOW BOUGH

oops wrong chat

[maiden river]

the hollow bough edd

[wicked frigate]

WHYYYYYYYYYYY

[tacit jungle]

what's the spice level of this week's edd? I like playing them blind 😄

[wraith robin]

do not miss out on this week's EDD!

It's a fun kinda hard

[coral trellis]

Is it just me or the fuel cell location for EDD stage 1 inconsistent? I've run about 5 rounds of EDD and it seems to drop on different spots

[stoic summit]

can confirm

it does drop in different locations in my experience playing through it a few times

[thorn jewel]

3/10

[soft trellis]

This weeks Edd was easy

But only because we were being rats

Aka hiding in tunnels

[burnt sandal]

doesn't look too bad to me tbh

[soft trellis]

Honestly how are you supposed to survive without op OCs

[burnt sandal]

by being good enough

[soft trellis]

😦

[burnt sandal]

people didn't have "op OCs" in the first EDDs and completed them just fine

[soft trellis]

We’re pretty new so hiding in holes seemed the best option

[burnt sandal]

I don't encourage hiding in holes

[soft trellis]

Also my computer lags when a swarm comes at me lol

[stoic summit]

An OC-less sludge pump is very capable of playing aggressively in an EDD

I didn’t have a single sludge pump overclock until 4 days ago

[soft trellis]

I just got fat boy so I’ll start playing aggressively

[stoic summit]

I do have a list of weapons for EDDs I don’t recommend without OCs

although there’s only like one or two per class

Driller: Subata

Gunner: Hurricane and Coilgun

[burnt sandal]

what are the reasons for excluding those weapons exactly ?

[stoic summit]

these weapons are just a lot harder to get value out for newer players when you don’t have OCs unlocked

Engineer: Stubby and Lok-1

[burnt sandal]

based on what...?

I'm sorry I really don't get it

[stoic summit]

Scout: Zhukovs

based off of how strong a weapon is before OCs and how strong a weapon is after OCs

which is subjective, granted

[burnt sandal]

Yeah, it is very subjective indeed

given, for example, how strong the crossbow is at base without any OCs already

[stoic summit]

actually I’ll omit crossbow

[burnt sandal]

Tbh, it's just not crossbow but whatever
There's no weapon I would exclude from EDD just because you don't have an OC

If anything, there are weapons I would advise new players against using because they require a bit more knowledge of the game and the weapon itself

like the coilgun or the colette

[stoic summit]

that’s fair

ig what I’m trying to say is these are my takes on weapons that are significantly worse without OCs than with OCs, but if one is able to make them work, all the power to them

[tulip idol]

I would certainly have some doubt taking OCless Subata on EDD

As for others, it's ok imo

[burnt sandal]

I mean : every weapon is worse without OC than with OC. That's kinda the point
Anyway, out of all the weapons you talked about, I would only somewhat agree with the subata, and even then it has it's own niche without needing the help of a particular OC.

[stoic summit]

that’s true, it all depends on playstyle as well

like subata can put in some serious work even without OCs if you’re comfortable with the fast semi auto and can hit consecutive weakpoint shots

but I think different weapons gain a different amount of power from having OCs

I think a good example is the engineer’s PGL vs Breach Cutter

PGL gains access to a plethora of new ways to build the nade launcher that are both transformative and very effective, whereas the breach cutter’s transformative effects don’t add nearly as much to the base weapon when compared to the PGL

[violet mauve]

I don't have any OCs for the Stubby and it works just fine.

Though I certainly would like one that adds ammo or firepower.

...Or ideally electrification duration so I have more window for the Shard.

[burnt sandal]

sadly, that's not something you'll find on the stubby

[violet mauve]

-__-

[burnt sandal]

however the shard has a slow mod

in T5 IIRC

that could help you

[violet mauve]

I don't need slowness, I need electrification or firepower.

[stoic summit]

you know what

I wanna try running some EDDs while unequipping my OCs now

lol

this is all hypothetical/in theory, fyi. I haven't tested all of these.

[violet mauve]

EM Refire Booster sounds like the OC I need.

[stoic summit]

that one's very good

[violet mauve]

+2 Electric Damage +4 Rate of Fire x1.5 Base Spread

[stoic summit]

unless you like using the stubby at long range

then not as much

that's all playstyle dependent tho

[violet mauve]

Not really, no. Close-medium range.

I try to electrify enemies, then switch to Shard Diffractor and watch them melt.

[stoic summit]

then EM refire is a perfect fit if you want something that gives extra firepower

and it gives a lot of firepower

[violet mauve]

Honestly? I think the Stubby and Shard should be switched.

They feel like secondary and primary weapons, respectively.

[stoic summit]

true lol

well, idk about that one

comboing shard primary with high voltage crossover breach cutter might be when one might consider

OP

[violet mauve]

Though they do fit the whole setup of Engi primaries have lots of ammo and secondaries have lots of firepower but comparatively little ammo.

[violet mauve]

True, true.

[elder ocean]

good combo is em refire with the shard diffractor using the electical damage in tier 5

with lures too, whewn lures expire they shock everything around it and you can clear swarms up real quick

[violet mauve]

Hydrogen Rupturing, yeah.

It's so crazy. +33% additional damage against electrocuted enemies.

[elder ocean]

yeah

you clean house

[limpid pond]

Hurricane and not Minigun???

[violet mauve]

So the loop goes: Stubby, electrify, shard them, Stubby again.

This combo, if modded right, melts Dreadnoughts.

Yesterday I played with a friend. We had the twins.

[elder ocean]

depends on playstyle and what you want from the build

[stoic summit]

I think stock minigun is better than stock hurricane

[violet mauve]

They went down in 30 seconds.

[stoic summit]

fight me

[elder ocean]

agreed

[violet mauve]

It's also what I used for my solo DD earlier today.

[elder ocean]

hurricane works well if you take volitile bullets and napalm rounds

[limpid pond]

Two-shotting Grunts with a bigger radius than Autocannon not good enough?

[elder ocean]

AC is good, its just the OCs that it gets are really good

[stoic summit]

AC is a really good stock weapon tbh

[burnt sandal]

Hurricane is just the AC but with better long range capabilities and slightly worse CQC capabilities (but that's offset by the stun mod)

if you think the AC is fine, so is the hurricane

[limpid pond]

Hurricane is like if Minigun and Autocannon had a superior child

[burnt sandal]

the biggest difference is the AC having better ammo economy but that's also offset by the fact that the hurricane hardly miss if you're accurate enough, unlike the AC

[limpid pond]

People sleep so hard on it for zero reason all because Napalm isn't OP anymore. No wonder GSG buffed its strongest mods and OCs...

[stoic summit]

hurricane is probably fine actually

[burnt sandal]

all in all, there's no difference between the two except their niche : hurricane is more long range, AC is more CQC

[stoic summit]

the point it being like a less ammo econ but more accurate autocannon makes sense

[burnt sandal]

the minigun is the "I'm useful in every situation" gun so it's hard to ever go wrong with it

the only gun that could be debatable to bring is just the coilgun but that's entirely fine if you jump in with the minigun, as it will save minigun's ammo when dealing with huge swarms of grunts

[limpid pond]

Hurricane is also stronger single target and can actually hurt Mactera, I'd go as far as to say there's very few things Autocannon can do currently that Hurricane can't outside of NTP

[burnt sandal]

true, the AC kinda sucks for flyers, but you usually pair it with BRT or bulldog, which deal with flyers just fine so it's not too important

worst scenario : if you need some time to deal with them, you can just throw a shield at your feet

yes i'm a gunner main, how could you tell ?

[violet mauve]

Gunner Mains!

[limpid pond]

I still don't understand what the point of Wave Cooker and Coilgun are tbh... even when you're using them with the select few ST primary builds for their class, it's just worse at it with the additional caveat of taking away your burst damage. Not good enough group clear to justify using over a traditional AoE primary, and not enough burst to make up for the loss of not using your typical Lead Spray or Explosive Reload.

[jolly hazel]

coil gun wrecks shit ammo efficiently in mining missions