#deep-dive-discussion
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but then again I vaguely recall getting 3 different disruptive enemies than another player so I dont know on that one
seeing how its the same seed id assume that it is the same pool? but not 100%
Just because its the same pool doesn't mean its the same spawn times. So I'd guess that someone could have a bulk spawn in very early, whereas another might have a late spawn, and if they have the mission finished before the bulk spawns, it was still in the pool, just never got a chance to spawn
yeah thats what I'm sayin
anyone up to edd?
i think egg waves are seeded tho
so if there’s a bulk from an egg, it’s a guarantee i think
hmm interesting
have never heard this but egg swarms have always seemed uniquely hellish
which i like
why is Elite deep dive giving me so many trauma 
idk
because deep dive hits deep
I remember that one edd with the 700+ nitra in the crystal cavern first stage refinery cave leech, there was definitely consistently a nemesis after a minute and a bulk after 5 minutes or something like that
static nemesis spawns are seeded afaik
the bulk spawns arent
could just be a high swarm size modifier consistently allowing enough leeway for a bulk to be rolled
I enter the regular dive solo, blind, figuring I'll be fine
I am for the first two missions
then #3 rolls around, and it's kill 2 dreadnoughts haunted
wish my gunner luck
okay, that's done. By the way were there no elites except praetorians on stage 1 for anyone else?
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What’s the best single target weapon for dreadnaughts
depends on circumstance
OD booster shard diffractor if the stars align and you have access to unobstructed dread ass for the full duration outside of stomp range/you dont randomly get targeted
hyperprop for immediate burst
sludge blast sludge pump will apply its dps wherever you hit and its a lot
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OD booster?
there's an achievement, "deep for speed", to complete all three stages of a dive in under 45 minutes. this week's is fast / easy enough to make it a good one for that
adding to OD Booster, 21111 OD Booster Shard Diffractor is probably the highest burst damage in the entire game when paired with either stubby/electro tier 5 mod LOK-1/scout IFG
problem is positioning yourself correctly to have a shot on dread butt for the full discharge (seeing how you cannot move) and be out of range of dread attacks
As far as I know the only things that can electrocute a dreadnought are the scouts IFG and taser bolts. The engineers electrocution has no effect on them.
I swear to god I've seen the symbol with stubby, but then yeah you need scout ifg lol
even without the 33% dmg buff the damage is still bonkers
That sounds like the status wears off too fast without constant application then.
The wiki says dreadnoughts are immune to electrocution, though you're probably right since the IFG and taser bolts apply continuous electrocution. I'm guessing that means that the engineer turret arc would electrocute them too 🤔
turret arc also electrocutes them, which is why turret arc > neuro lasso if u really want to slow a dread as engi
iv never used turret arc with overdrive before tho tbh
how do I use the experimental plasma charger properly? can't seem to get the hang of it.
left click
getting thin containment field mining off requires a minimum distance and time
thx
Hi, I'm new to DRG. Generally I mostly play Haz 3 because I find Haz 4 pretty hard to keep up with. Are overclocks necessary for Haz 4 and above, and what would build you recommend for a recently promoted Driller with flamethrower and no overclocks
No not necessary
That thing owns in elim even without the 33% from ifg/taser
I'm loving it
Haven't had any luck with scouts so far
So i just run the t5 slow mod since it's 80% which helps everyone else
soo...just get better? :/ I die so easily lol
Cryo or sludge pump might serve better with a team If you don't have flamethrower overclocks
what overclocks would I be looking for for flamethrower? sticky flame?
I just unlocked sludge pump yesterday and I dont like cryo
h4? nah. h5 will be tough
Sticky flame is supposed to be very good for swarms
Facemelter for damage
definitely getting facemelter
Sludge pump is my favourite driller weapon, expecially with some overclocks, and cryo is extremely op
cryo feels like I'm playing support.
sludge is strong and doesnt rely on ocs much at all
flamethrower makes me feel like I'm raising hell
Once everything is frozen swap to secondary or drill everything
yeah but that's one additional step I cant be bothered with
why not just burn them
Axes will deal extremely high damage too when stuff is frozen
They still move when burning
yeah but you get 8 axes, which are somewhat reuseable but not really given how many mobs you kill in one session
i have to swap to kill anything
You use axes on pretorians and oppressors and stuff
Dont waste them on smaller stuff
Ah ok. So cryo would be more...big bugs?
cryo is interesting
It deals with small bugs because of how fast they freeze, and big bugs go down so fast once frozen
I personally prefer to just set things on fire and then power pickaxe
you can freeze all bugs in a swarm and then drill them
Yeah, the drill method sounds fairly interesting
- vampire perk and you get all your health back
running the perk vampire with said strategy will refill your bar constantly
dont the bugs have to be a certain size
very strong and noob friendly
Grunts and above
its anything thats a grunt
so thats most bugs then
so the size requirement really only prevents swarmers and nadeocytes
fair
The majority of bugs will proc vampire
thank you for clarifying
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sry meant to write more but got caught up, good tips from everyone here
the main difference between haz 3 and haz 4 then especially haz 5 is that you will need to do a lot more running on 4/5. avoiding ranged shots, dashing away from mobs like praetorians, mactera and oppressors. things that only take away your shield and a bit of health on lower haz will 2 shot you on haz 4/5
just make sure your weapons are fully upgraded even if they don't have OCs, wouldnt be great if you rock up on a fresh toon with no unlocks
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fuel stream diffuser is better than sticky flames IMO, just take all the sticky flame modifications and you now get to apply napalm from 30m away
this too, dash is basically mandatory on every class that isn't scout at high hazard, especially if you are struggling
and slashers will catch you at haz 5 so kill them first in a grunt pack
I wonder what the dive will be like tomorrow.
Hollow bough shield disruption
edd blackbox is so hard ;.;
YEAAA BUDDAYYYYYYY LIGHTWEIGHT BABEEY
getting nothing but trolls in egg...
DO. NOT. JINX. IT
we literally had that 2 weeks ago
actually the worst
thats not too bad
now shield disruption on pe with lethal enemies would be bad
even more so if its the second or third stage of the edd
So I'm on ps4 and was playing the second stage of the EDD
And idk if it was just me and my friends or what but the stage was literally unplayable due to the frame drops and the occasional freezing in game
Again idk if it was just us but damn
It was like 10 fps if I remember
oh yeah the mapgen for edd 2nd stage was really annoying
*jinxs it*
no pls i dont want another shieldless edd
i think magma core shieldless is more pain the hollow bough
but neither a pleasent for EDD
It was causing frame issues so we were basically playing a sideshow
Shield disruption + 2 dreadnought in hollow bough EDD stage 3 lessgoooo
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Hey when starting up a deep that for the first time do you have to do it solo? I just started one up and I was gonna do it with my friend but I can’t invite anyone.
theres a tab at the bottom when booting up the deep dive
that says solo - private - public
make sure thats set to private
and not solo
Also, people can’t join once the mission has started
I had that too, and my computer is no potato.
What do people think of using mics during Deep Dives/Elite Deep Dives?
It's incredibly very good, but I don't have the luxury of coming across randoms using mics for comms tho :(
Since y'know, saying stuff to communicate instead of typing is much more practical and convenient
not necessary but good for quick communication
check keybind?
oh boy i sure do love doing this deep dive, these first two levels werent too bad i wonder what the last one is!
Comms are good when used properly ofc
thank youu
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Fungus bogs escort shield disruption at stage 3 
Now that’s more like it
Hollow Bough Shield Disruption.
With an abnormally high spawn rate for swarmers.
silent swarmageddon, my favorite indeed
Good luck, everyone.
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DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Natural Point
Stage 1:
4 Eggs +
150 Morkite |
Lethal Enemies
Stage 2:
2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Hiveguard) + 📡 1 Black Box |
No Mutators
Stage 3: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box |
Elite Threat
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Whalepiper's Eclipse
Stage 1:
2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Twins) +
2 Eggs |
Regenerative Bugs
Stage 2:
10 Aquarq +
150 Morkite |
Haunted Cave
Stage 3:
2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + 📡 1 Black Box |
Exploder Infestation
Crystal Meth Caverns
Since my friend got a pc he stopped doing the deep dives with me 😦
Bungus Bogs. Nice
time to collect your paycheck
haunted cave on aquarqs
i think i can live a month without pay

I think so
😦
afaik ye
Sadness
rocky mountain time
any info on stage 3 EDD yet?
In a few minutes
I have pots of gold as beer, wish me luck
STAGE 3 EDD:
-2 dreadnoughts
-1 black box
-exploder infestation
Exploder with blackbox painge
fucking dreads
❄️
and I brought ntp
So many twins.
It could be worse
It could be shield disruption
All depends on how bad nitra is this time around
nitra isn't that great so far
stage 3 DD is liquid morkite and black box + elite threat
only got enough for 3 resupps on stage 1
not beautiful, not ugly
I remember that one EDD in magma core where we got 500 nitra in stage 1
No no I don’t
Regardless hoping my EDD run goes well later I’m hoping it doesn’t go to bad cuz as long as the cave isn’t TINY haunted cave is manageable
that sounds hilarious
did you get any in the future stages?
elim and refining tend to have more nitra from experience, so could be ok
yea of course, I think we ended the mission with 450+ nitra still
the 500 nitra from stage 1 was due to 50+ lootbugs
the last dd mission is so cancer as a solo player
EDD done, not too difficult
no bullshit cave gen
just a bunch of cave leeches near the black box in stage 3
black box is also in a good position. no enemies spawned from behind or from the top. only from the big area down the ledge
I want more magma core EDDs. Need more fire in my life.
god, these morkite well locations in DD stage 3
if you don't have a driller, have fun
me, a gunner: haha i'm in danger
WOOOOO I FINALLY GOT THE OVERCLOCK I WANTED LES GOOOOOOO
explosive chem rounds for lok1
holy shit
i literally have all the gunner overclocks from grinding lmao
What the fuck is that 3rd stage dd cave gen
I fucking know, right?
That has to be the worst on site cave gen I have ever seen
Godspeed to those without a driller
me, a solo gunner.
At least the black box is in a super easy spot
lmao and now it gives me executioner as well
I much prefer Executioner. It just slaps.
I toss-up between the two depending on how I feel
explosive chem is nice when I don't feel like trying too hard
man, after all this time getting gunner ocs as engi my luck is now paying off
I just feel like if I want AoE I'm just using Breach Cutter or the PGL.
With Exec Lok-1 as an aimbot single target sniper for high priority threats.
would you recommend exec lok1 over hyperprop deepcore for single targets with high hp?
Depends on what kind of two weapon set-up you want. Both are reasonably viable.
Hyperprop isn't a 1 hit KO on all targets, especially at Haz4+.
I should say for dreads I use both at the same time generally
aight
AoE swarm clear will suffer but if you got decent allies then it isn't too bad.
Yeah that's the one thing to worry about, if you have non-cooperative people then it's gonna be not fun
complete black box secondary on EDD stage 3(impossible)(karl spotted)
man, good thing I didn't think of doing DD solo
its haz 3
waow
whats up with deep dive OSR layout
Fr fr endless waves of swarmers, creepers and spitters

Got experimental rounds, electro minelettes for brt7 and cryo bolt for nishanka

What the shit was that generation on dd lvl 3
Dd or edd?
Just dd
Ah, I remember this good pumpjack spots
The extraction one
Fucking didn't was a gunner
And I HATE how good and fast I was going
Good luck my man
How much of a bitch is it this week?
I'd love to edd but I'm lagging so hard I don't even know what's happening to my 'puter
We spent 6 minutes on first DD stage
It's like from 60 to 4 fps in a couple of seconds
Everything's okay and then BOOM SWARM 3FPS GOOD LUCK MY BOI
IM PLAYING A SLIDESHOWSHOOTER
It's ok at 3-4 haz levels but totally not ok higher
And I'm beginning to be a burden to my team
Literally deadweight
Screee
ugh, that's a lot of dreads on the edd
i'm considering skipping this one, i'm a wee bit sick of fighting them tbh
Ur fast
So from what i gather
DD stage 3 is hell if you don't have a driller
and so far EDD is basically a Dread hunting ground
any interesting mods? No Shields? Exploders? Cave Leeches?
So first you get rid of guards armor and then explode bulk..?
explosion on stage 3
nothing more notable though i think
PE on stage 2 with the invisible blue bug from hell
pulled off my first bulk oneshot hiveguard, was satisfying as hell
EDD stage 2 was kind of annoying as gunner
Yes
I don't remember what was on it but didn't really like it
Get rid of the yellow bar first, then we detonate it
I was also in LSLS mode tho for the dreads, so a better rounded/more aoe would have worked fine for stage 2 EDD
@brittle hound and I are about to stream this week's EDD. Come if you are interested, link in my bio
Nah it’s cuz only groups were up is where speed runners only lol
I didn’t finish typing as a group popped up instantly for it
Got nothing good for those cores tho so they will only serve as food for my forge mastery
This week's Deep Dive is the perfect time to get Car Pool, stage 3 is absolutely crawling with harvesters & the terrain is flat
what are the dives this week?
pins
is EDD hard?
Yes
I think it's reasonable, but then again I just failed a run with 2 greenbeards on the team, so there's that
Ok so I haven't reached stage 3 EDD yet and I haven't encountered one with the same objective combo.
If dreads are the primary Primary (lol) and black box is the second primary, doesn't that mean i will get no full swarm events before I activate the blackbox?
Since in non DD elim missions there's no swarm events just ambushed
yeah, timed full swarm behavior is dependent on the first mission type
Is the chance of a mutation vs a warning the same?
i’m pretty sure edds are guaranteed to have at least 2 warnings and are not guaranteed to have any mutations
Ah ok thatd make sense then, ty
I use platforms and spiraled all the way up for that one pumpjack
Man
It was fun to ride down it
i would like to reccomend driller for this week's DD if you are playing solo
i made the mistake of picking scout
scoot
just 5 minutes slower than a 3-stack
you can rest easy knowing that one scout is no less efficient than a driller on this mission
those high pumps looked nasty without a driller, glad my friend brought his
I wanna punch the guy from Gunk Seed Games who programmed stage 3 DD
you'll get 10 exploders anyway
thank god that didnt came up my dream, but there is THE feeling when you are mining nitra and then you hear the 10 loud exploder noise and you just jump awayand see 10 exploder e,ploding on tge same place
my game crashed midway in stage 2 so im probably not going to try it again until later in the week
would having more than one monitor on while playing cause it to crash more often?
EDD has really sucked both times i attempted it
stage 2 you just get 0 room to breathe
I could but my teammates could not.
Did the first stage of DD this week in under 9 minutes and thought, "Oh, it'll be a quick one." Then I got to stage three and it took like 15 minutes just to find the last two pumpjacks.
one thing that may help is looking at the edges of the map
if you cant see the edge of the map, you haven't explored there
this edd was pretty easy
running cryo driller with engi hyperprop and it was comfy,, alongside the other guys
all of them on the top floor krkw
Apparently haz 5.5 twins are excessively brutal
Or maybe we just weren't killing them quickly with our builds
it was reletively fine with 1 scout and 1 engie
then again i abused explosive plascreete so
goto loadout for doing anything tbh
How hell is this weeks EDD?
Pretty ez
not too bad. was worried we don't have enough nitra because stage 1 barely has any.
but stage 2 was nitra rush
Is the elite deep dive even possible to solo without overclocks?
really depends on mission objectives and cave terrain. since in EDDs you wanna finish asap, you're probably gonna stick with scout/driller in general
Second mission for me is quite hell. Can't seem to get the aquarqs without getting overwhelmed in time. Haunted Detonator doesn't help either.
Using M1000 Classic and boomstick with IFG.
scout will also probably struggle solo if it's doretta
tips for deep dives? im not very good at them
main thing i have is try to spare your ammo and get as much nitra as you can
try to find as much nitra as you can while calling the fewest resupplies on stage 1 and 2
other than that they're not much different than regular missions
im a solo gunner and i just got to stage 3 DD
Always get the nitra and move fast
The longer you stay, the more swarms you need to fight against
If you can handle haz 4, dd is a breeze
took awhile but i soloed stage 3 DD as gunner
gj
use scout for soloing DDs they said. It will be faster they said.
I feel ya
bring a driller for the last stage of the dd. digging the pipes manually doesn't take too long but god its annoying
cavegen is top tier ass
how are the dd and edd?
edd is pretty smooth from start to end, dd I heard the stage 3 is problematic in the morkite well placements
as long as Bosco can both build AND repair the pipes...
dd was chill except for the last level, would highly recommend bringing a driller just for that. really high well placements that are a pain if you dont have a driller
scout isnt gonna be killing things
just speedrun the objectives
edd was actually pretty smooth too, stage 2 got a bit rough but we made it
yeah, have you seen the "objective" in the last DD stage?
also totally didn't destroy the twins on stage 1 with a bulk det. nope definitely
And yea those 2 pumpjacks were cooked
how bad are those two pumpjacks on the final stage of the DD? I don't really wanta play driller for this DD but its looking like I might just because of that
you can also be an engineer for them
but good luck on solo scout
that's gonna be a lot of pain then. 😄
I can slide onto engi though, I have hyperprop for a reason
Why dont we drill the wells down in DD so it's easier to connect? 
One can be done pretty easily with some clever routing. The other sucked.
just did the deep dive in which a driller ( double promoted) didnt know how to drill to pumpjack
interesting
wanted to test my new engie loadout and did the dd; did not expect to be making two separate rollercoaster rides lmao
i'd say about 4 minutes of digging upwards through a wall at least
was in a duo as gunner with a scout, we just dug through the ground up to the pumps
dd stage 3 was pretty bad, it's like season 1 cavegen
If you have a driller it's not so bad but it's a bit ridiculous
lol the dd is gonna be longer than the edd again
Probably? They both weren’t horrible, just some pumpjack shenanigans
this edd wasnt too bad
the hardest was the first stage when mid swarm we accidentally popped the hiveguard and had to deal with that as well
does the edd have a healthy serving of nitra
i wanna bring bullet hell so i dont have to aim
use bulk det in 1st edd phase at 1st swarm for dreadnought, 2nd dread usually doesn't spawn so dont waste time
Bulk spawns aren’t really guaranteed, though certain seeds can make it more likely at certain times
i didn’t even realize bulks were in the spawn pool for this edd
iv done it twice so far without seeing any
Pretty sure the common understanding is bulks are determined when you load in, so it's not guaranteed even though most parts of dd/edd are
Not hard to prove this since its just "they saw a bulk and I didnt"
yeah just did stage 1 with 4 dwarves and there was no bulk
its predetermined that bulks are one of the three "disruptive" enemies in the seed but the actual spawning is rng, based off that swarm number rolling iirc
Oh right, what are the options? Bulk oppressor and menace?
if other ppl saw it in the first mission , it is def in the spawn pool, i just got lucky
Yea seems my understanding was off mb
goo bombers, wardens i think
i don’t think oppressors are classified as disruptor, i think they just replace pratorians? i’m not sure tbh
Oppressors are to Praetorians as Guards and Slashers are to Grunts afaik\
the disruptive enemies are Goo Bombers, Grabbers, Shellbacks, Wardens, Menaces, and Bulks
Ah shellbacks
God I hate em
What's most effective against them
Do they get slowed
they can be slowed, they can be frozen but will not stop moving, it’s also one of the few enemies in the game that armor break is useful on
meaning m1, sludge, big bertha are pretty good at killing them
it has to be functioning armor break that actually ignores armor on the penetrating shot to be really effective tho
for example, hurricane ab is bugged and doesn’t ignore armor
in my experience bouncy splash drak is really good at tearing armor off shellbacms
exploders too right?
i dont get why wardens are "disruptive"
Exploders definetely are not
you must now focus the warden
all six of these enemy types threaten to ruin your day if not handled
Just ran EDD
Other than picking up a lot of bodies, pretty simple to just bash face
deep dive was harder purely for the stage 3
hmmm by stage 3 edd you have enough nitra to just chuck cryo nades at the dread until it dies
I went on a Deep Dive as Engineer with some of the most
*with the LOK-1 Executioner overclock, and a Shard Diffractor, and still came out limping.
Scariest $@#! I've ever endured.
And twice, mind you.
Stage 3 on PS4 ☠️ don't go scout
Stage 3 doubled my time as solo scout lol
why not?
The pipes were like ages away in a vertical direction which is a pain for scout to build
Just did mine wasn't hard just took longer
decides to go scout on this weeks deep dive
GSG, what did we do to deserve this?
500 nitra but a cave so steep even the grappling hook struggles to navigate it
Literal worst on site generation to date
show me ur whackiest pipelines miners
deep dives super dead and its weekend
I made this mistake
I can't play anything but scout, I just value the mobility too much
I know it's an old issue, but I got disconnected due to my country's internet difficulties while I was on a Deep Dive.
Based and Gigachad Scout Enjoyer 
Congratz, i am stuck at stage 2 EDD, too tough for me 😦
same. i did it like 5 times
this one wasn’t too bad, there are so many dreads you can build mostly for single target and do fine
the worst stage was the 2nd one
haunted cave aquarqs is pretty easy in general though
worst haunted cave one is with dreadnoughts
worst should be haunted cave PE with dread secondary
constant bug spawns during dread plus a ghost bulk
with bad cave gen that will probably be an actual gatekeeper
its either THE PIT (tm), 3 high rooms 1 low room with a tunnel to a back room, or the big ass two story map with pillars below the minehead
or the big ass room (usually hollow bough) or the big ass room with sloping ground down with two ledges above the bottom of the slope
man the normal DD final area - just by the nitra in the looooooong hole. Got yoinked by a leech from the very bottom.. 50m. That has to be a candidate for longest leech of all time
The normal DD is definitely a candidate for a sub 15 if you have a decent team.
I had the first stage done in 7mins, and wasn't even trying to go fast, then had the second one done by 23mins. Only issue was knowing the spawns of the pumpjacks in the final cave which cost us about 15-20 mins, and ended up being a 50 min DD
Worst part of the EDD for me was people constantly accidentally popping the dreadnought eggs during waves (I think the autocannon gunner was the main culprit)
I did it twice with stubby
But it was on the tail end both times
So nothing too bad
Our team decided to volunteer the scout to go pop the dreadnaught egg and lure it to a big cave the rest of the team were in
On the way there he accidentally popped the second
We still stumbled our way through it though
how is the edd?
Stage 2 is the only annoying one
S1 and s3 are dread/eggs/box so you know when big waves are coming
Holy fuck, a haz 5 hiveguard solo is just soooo fucking oppressive.
stage 2 is hell
the ghost is super annoying
havent gotten passed it yet, will do it later
I managed to beat the EDD with no downs with a random team, so I was happy. Stage 2 was the hardest. My teammates all went down during the extraction, so I had to kite the ghost and a massive amount of glyphids for a couple of minutes before finally being able to make a path to the drop pod.
Succeeding as last alive is always a big ego booster lol
I was scout for edd and I just rushed all the morkite and nitra for team while they did the rest of the hauling, went pretty smoothly
ive only done the non elite deep dive and it was my first one, and also i was solo, i barely lived
You did a solo DD as your first ever DD? And lived? Thats pretty impressive
ghost? cc it with sludge, shock or neuro 😂
Bit late on checking the dives but this week looks fun if not very tedious and long
edd was 47 minutes with some foot dragging
knowing that the deep dive pumpjacks are vertical will help
Having to slog through 3 twins and 2 hiveguards across the two dives is certainly gonna be annoying
just shoot em
bring cryo n hyperprop 😂
dread time tax is at least influenced by player skill more so than escort and refining
What are the minimum phases with normal dmg for dreads? 3 for hiveguard, 4 for classic?
I've seen 3 for classic before but that was with a lot of burst
Ifg + dps gunner = ez
but generally 4
Yea probably need some large chunk dmg at the tail end of the phase
the 3rd stage of the DD was harder/more annoying than any of the edd. funny.
Twins are always rough on 5.5
it wasnt at all
elites on haz 3.5 have like no health
The funniest part of that DD was the second leech hanging out on the ceiling of that giant tube
Greenbeard engi got munched on by the first leech, i as scout though it was safe, mined out all the minerals and wondered what was at the top.
No minerals just another leech as a kaizo trap.
panic shot it so it was all good
Thinking back on it, I debated getting snacked on intentionally so the rest of the team would have to climb all the way up it to get me
idk, i've seen 2 phase OGs
2 man team with prop and cryo means you only get the initial and one more armour breaking phase
does blocking people on steam prevent you matchmaking with them?
afaik no
Anyone else stuck on the last stage of the regular deep dive? I actually can't find 2 of the pumpjacks spots. Everything else went smoothly, but now i've been stuck looking for them for 15 minutes. Still got plenty of nitra at least, but i'm considering giving up...
go vertical
yeah, just found them finally. thankfully i'm driller, so i got a chance of building there.
oh no, and I just started regular deep dive too and we don't have a driller 😭
Better start digging 
I’m stuck with EDD stage 2
Any idea what build should I have if playing an engineer or driller?
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Terrain generation of 3rd stage DD was so annoying.
Never have I needed to build pipes that long lol
Was extra annoying as solo gunner.
What happens if someone goes down on the first stage of a deep dive and they're left behind? Do they just show up in the pod for the second stage?
They’re left 4 dead permanently
Just kidding they show up in second stage
what are u having trouble with
ya goal should be one announced swarm and maybe 2/3 resups then gtfo
Although this would make for an interesting game mode, like a group of maybe 8 players are sent down for large-scale missions and can be filtered down through these missions. If all players make it through, a large payout is given.
Thanks for this, I felt that the stage was pretty taxing, I had no idea it had to do with how long you were down there for
unknown horror is just a figment of your imagination
i just played the deep dive, on stage 3, does a dreadnought always spawn?
didn't see one on the elite if thats what youre referring to
the normal one, im still too bad for elites
haven't done it yet
bad rng for your group
is this one tough?
Not particularly
There’s one aquarq fairly well hidden on the bottom, deep in the cave, but you can just dig it back to the extraction point
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overwhelmed by the swarm and the ghost, cant seem to deploy a good crowd control strategy
what’s ur build
If ur scout can't u just use the horror to kill some bugs?
https://karl.gg/preview/13738#/
Im open to suggestion on other classes and builds
Engineer build with Overstuffed Magazine mod, Loaded Shells mod, Quickfire Ejector mod, Tungsten Coated Buckshot mod, Turret Whip mod, High Capacity M...
that shud be fine for swarm clear, except maybe a bit ammo intensive
the ghost can still be slowed. so a high duration slow effect like ntp/taser bolt works great to give yourself a lot of distance
during my run, I was ntp gunner and just keep tagging the ghost every 10 seconds or so
Driller's sludge is also great at slowing the horror
There's a good place to kite monsters near the mining rig
Somewhere up top
Flat open space
Very wide
Unknown horror 
Infinite fuel increased radius driller 
Man the EDD is tough. That hiveguard drives all your ammo resources in no time, so you have no nitra to carry over into stage2. Then after getting past the second stage with almost enough nitra for 1 supply pod, its back to another 2 dreadnaughts.
🤨
what do you mean almost enough nitra for 1 supply pod
how many are you using on stage 2
3
you may have missed some nitra
I had a scout and an engie too, so they kept calling resupplies when they ran out of ammo, which was a lot more frequent than the 2 gunners
Yeah, just feel like I have to carry on the edd, which I am not good enough to do. I can carry a DD, but an edd is just too much for me.
stage 1 is pretty tight on ammo yeah, but hiveguard and twins ammo consumption can be alleviated by aiming for sentinel weakspot and splitting damage well respectively
Like I had 20 res's that last try. And I was the only person running either iron will or medic
fair enough, I generally go in expe ting to carry as well
wow
yeah

Yeah, I could do it if I had a decent team. But when people keep going down I can't shoot the weak points, think the hiveguard lasted 5 cycles.
yeah those dives are frustrating
if it comes down to it, I'll just kick the lowest performer
so I dont have to work as hard to keep them above water
Yeah, but it wasn't like there was a weak link, engie and scout were going down an awful lot, but they were our only way to reach some of the aquarqs .
Usually I would play driller so that wouldn't be a problem, but there's just so much firepower needed in this EDD
Ziplines crying in corner
and he can do it from any angle
Honestly kicking someone, if you ask me, is a bit of a hindrance. Even if they're a weak link. One less gun, one less rock and stone, and one less guy to lure a buncha bugs.
Unless, well, they're obviously being a troll or whatever and ruining the fun that is suffering in a dive.
no, the game scales proportionally to the amount of players
I never notice tbh
if they can't pull their haz 5 weight they are an active detriment
I did a dive solo and it was still rough for me.
1 and 2 players have the same scaling
but yeah its proportionally less bugs with less health and I believe less speed
yeah until you can grab stuff on them, they are bad at ceiling stuff
also I see what u mean by one less gun and one less lure, but if they arent putting out enough damage and they are down all the time, those points are moot
Tbh I'm just a scout and engi main so, what can one expect from me during solo dives lol. Bosco does all the stuff anyway while I eat popcorn.
I'm fine with carrying a dive but I'm not fine with stressing myself out watching teammates try to fit a square peg through a round hole
light is invaluable, sentries are invaluable, plats especially for static defenses are invaluable
Solo though. I did say solo.
you can get some swarm clear with splash plasma carbine
I kinda don't like the plasma carbine
Doesn't have that power for me. I just use the deepcore.
have you tried plasma splash bouncy balls
Nope
its a flat damage increase and it shreds bugs if you aim right (immediately below the bug so it splashes, the bounces up into them and splashes again)
Then again I don't know most things, and do mostly go for direct damage.
I dont usually go solo unless forced to so idk ammo efficiency concerns there (you get 4 resups per pop so probably more important for dmg)
Anyway I, uh, should get back to work so. Later.
yo @marble veldt im up
Finishing up a quest in MH
Be right there
@brittle hound Come here
comes over here
It's EDD time, turn off MCR
sadly turns off rimworld
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Hi I'd like to ask if i do multiple deep dives a day can i got more then 1 blank matrix core?and reward wise is it better to run elite rather then regulars?(idc about materials,credit only blank matrix cores,or overclocks.Feels like it takes more then 500 hours to get the oc's you want for 1 char 1-1 weapon)
You only get one set of rewards for one completion. You dont get multiple rewards for doing it again.
Inorder to get every weapon overclock, you have to go through atleast 5~ months of weekly resets.
Matrix cores are Timegated.
Not Grind-gated though, thank karl.
thanks!
Gets to DD3 as Solo Scout
Oh no, haha, my game randomly crashed, heh, such a shame really
been trying to solo the edd, but i've been consistently having trouble on the second stage
i can't seem to find a good spot to fight the swarms
any mission with haunted cave is harder solo than with a team imo, with a team you can share ghost aggro and kite it around so much easier. it's even worse when you have missions with fixed deposit points like PE or refinery.
Who do you guys solo the EDDs as? I tried with driller but couldn't take down the first hiveguard. Felt like bosco was absolutely useless and no help to me whatsoever
prob engi or gunner
EDD was a lot of fun this week! I ran it with one of my buds (engi and gunner team) and enjoyed coordinating together to work to our strengths. Engineer AoE/multi-target build compliments a single-target gunner build so nicely.
Wrapping up phase 2 in under 10 minutes was pretty satisfying as well.
engi is super versatile for solos, high dmg output and platforms are super helpful
Hmm. I don't like engie. Probably just bc I'm not used to the playstyle, but I might look into it.
Lightweight rounds overclock for voltaic smg is a pretty fun one to use. If you ever get your hands on it, it might change how you feel.
finally made it through second stage only to die to the FUCKING BLACK BOX on stage 3
fuuuuuuuuuuck sake
hi
Quick question: how do I promote a character to GET deep dives?
reach character level 25, which will unlock a promotion assignment
Gotcha, thanks
after that, go to the memorial hall and you can buy your promotion
Cheers
Almost done with EDD, windowlicker pops the black box right after the dread was popped
Wipe happened
yeah haunted cave solo hits different
I've tried as a gunner and as a driller but I just cant clear the waves on top of getting the aquargs on top of the morkite on top of the nitra on top of not getting oneshot by the spooky boi
On top of hardness three terrain
Oh shoot, I didn't think about that
This was my first elite dd I did solo with driller, I'm surprised that I was able to make it to the end.
What loadout did yo use?
Resupplier, SweetTooth, Vampire, Dash, IornWill, Cryo (ThermalEff OC): BAACB, EPC(HeavyHitter OC): ABCBB, Impact Axe
Satchel:CABC, Drills: AAAA, Armor: CBAC
If I had the Ice Storm OC for the Cryo I would've used that.
I did also have a few moments where having the mod that let's your drills cool when damaging bugs would've been useful.
I struggle in deep dives 
isnt ice storm the dps mod
if I was doing solo this week with 4 dreads I'd take sludge blast
I dont think I ever used ice storm so I cant bash it, but that seems inefficient
Unfortunately I don't have the shotgun sludge mod.
f
Got plenty of mods for Gunner after maining him since I started. Kinda having a change of heart after picking up the drills.
ice storm is harder to use against naughts but a bit more ammo efficent then sludge blast against swarms imo
I tried using it on the twins but I get blasted by the yellow one when I get "too close" 😦
Are you supposed to be able to walk through the zipline
why the hell is there haunted caves on god
We killed too many bugs and now they have coalesced into a big old ghost that wants to eat us
aw, nuts.
man i feel so bad earlier i was doing the elite dive and two absolute chads (engi and scout) were carrying me on the last mission cause the gunner had left and i am not good enough to stay alive on haz 5.5 but as soon as they killed the second dreadnaught on the 3rd stage my fucking internet went out and it kicked both of them
yeah but on my first elite dive that seemed like i could actually win it was painful to see
i am a haz 2/3 shitter still who doesnt know anything besides driller
deep dives are so stressful solo
DDs are ok solo, its the EDDs that are tough
I've 3 or 4 solo DDs completed, still yet to register my first EDD solo completion
Are entire seeds the same for weekly DD/EDD or just the missions/map/conditions
The seeds are same for that week
Including map gen and spawn pool
I would rather just do the EDD again with a handicap than get the map gen from DD stage 3 ever again
I noticed that there are 2 variations of the EDD this week. One where on stage 1, 2 gold veins are in the first room on the wall, whereas in the other, 2 nitra veins spawn there instead
Those pumpjacks were up in the rafters in the middle of nowhere
I spent so much time just tracking pipes up there that it made the regular DD run longer
Probably a stupid question, but I do want to ask this; if I do the normal deep dives and get the rewards for it, can I also get rewards for the elite dives or are they tied together?
pretty certain deep dive and elite deep dive rewards are separate
EDD and DD rewards are not connected
So you can get 4 Matrixes to forge and 2 blanks if you can complete both DD
anyone got a way to connect the pipelines in DD stage 3? there's 2 miles above the refinery and i have no idea how to connect them
I guess start digging, or take a bet with this setup #drg-gallery message
Wrong message kek
lol, i'll probably make a double tunnel tho, thanks
gonna be a lot of digging but at least the eliet threat mactera swarm didn't kill me
bah they're nasty
Holy fuck, the second part of that epic deep dive is so hard. Its just constantly spawning bugs and swams
Go faster. It’s PE so you only have 20 minutes.
Just died on it there with 821 kills, 9/10 aquarqs, and all morkit. Wouldn't mind, but I had the 10th bit of aquarq but I couldn't find it bc bosco dropped it in some obscure place
Oh, solo PE? RIP.
Yeah. Can't get a decent bunch of randos to get it done, so trying to do it myself, but its just so heavy.
Eh? It’s almost always possible to get a decent group of randoms. Almost any player is better than Bosco.
A bronze 1 scout is better than Bosco.
You say that, until they start calling unnecessary supply drops, and they don't mine the resources when you point them out like bosco does.
I'll always play with whoever comes into the lobby with me, but for this EDD I've found more success attempting it solo
Debatable 
I've had gold+ scouts be worse than bosco
That kick button is always there for you 
unfortunately you then lose whatever utility that dwarf had, regardless of ability
no light/no shield/no drill back to pod/no plats
most edds can get away with 1 dude playing not optimally
especially if it is someone's first edd
yeah but I think (unintentionally or not) sabotaging is the issue
if the shitter doesn't communicate, things can get hairy
Did this week's EDD with an Engi that didn't place Plats and had 22 deaths 
Is it a bug where you could dig around ore with driller to get it or is that intentional
doing a late deep dive, come and get it #lfg-steam
if terrain or a mineral is not connected to anything and it’s just floating, it will break and fall to the ground. So ye it’s intentional
just did my first deep dive
wow that was hard
also, i got some matrix core that's blank and i cant... do anything with it? what do i do with it
there are machine events that randomly spawn in missions. Turn on the mission and complete it so you can stick your blank into a core infuser and turn it into a weapon core
it will give you the option to change it into a core for 3 different classes, 2 bring weapons and one being cosmetic
this week's edd is brutal -- my friends and i had finally gotten over halfway through the final mission and then failed 😔 we're determined to get it by thursday tho
thank you
My first deep dive was devastating. Not because it was difficult or anything, but because on the 3rd level, it was one of the oil drilling mission. Only issue was it was more of a vertical level than anything else, but with very few options of even traveling toward the last 2 oil drills. Sadly there was only me and a random, neither of which were the driller. Took about 30 minutes of just digging to get to the drills (there was very few in terms of platforms to go up as well) we ended up dying before we could get the last 2 drills started because of how difficult they were to reach in the end, both of us dying to elites with no ammo (not much nitra in any of the levels, just enough for 1 pod a level and we were as thorough as possible)
So this begs the question. Are all deep dives as relentless like this on the third mission?
It was actually kind of funny tbh. The first two levels were really easy in comparison. Didn’t get downed at all until the third, and even then I thought we were fine up until it took us so long to just find the drills
If you read up there lots of messages about this week's deep dive
The maps are the same for everyone
So yeah, we all went through that refinery map haha
I was engi and before we started the other guy in my lobby was Scout but I knew the 3rd stage was bad so I said let's try driller and we were both glad we did haha
Short answer: Normally no, but this week yes
I was gunner and the other guy was engineer. Not the best combo for this but I guess better than scout since he had platforms
I say thorough but By the third map I expected it to not be so terrible so I really didn’t look for much other than gold, since I was full at the start on ammo. By the time things ramped up I didn’t have much sadly
We were glad, that we had an driller. But even with the driller it was one of the longest mission on a deep dive for us.
So are elite deep dives the exact same, with the only difference being you can’t use them until you finish one first?
No you can start an elite deep dive right away. They are complete disconnected from each other. They are different maps with different mission goals. They are much harder because of the higher haz-levels.
DD are haz 3/3.5/3.5 and EDD are 4.5/5/5.5
ngl i had alot of fun this weeks 3rd stage DD
went surprisingly smooth compared to what ive heard from most people
Oh the elite ones were all greyed out for me and said I had to complete at least one deep dive first
Oh sorry. Yes you need complete one deep dive at least to "unlock" the elite deep dives in general. But if you succeed one deep dive, all EDD after this a unlocked.
and i was carrying 2 engis and a gunner thru their first deep dive as a miner
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Was this DD really that bad? I can hardly remember it. Then again, we had an engie, a scout and a driller
driller helps a lot in stage 3 so I guess that
I wouldn't say its hard id just say its incredibly annoying
the last stage took almost as long as the first 2 stages combined
still did it sub 40
how hard is edd this time
depends how good you are at fighting dreads
As solo gunner -> while facing in the general direction of the 2 high pumps I went up the left, then through the cave opening to the right which 180s to the pump, then built the 2nd pipe right on top of the first, just so I didn't have to dig.
Would've been there for hours digging solo lmao
Died twice to falling too.
did the weekly stuff get reset yet?
not yet, got another 16 hours to go
oh god.. thanks though
Any tips for this week's elite deep dive? I'm seeing the first stage is two dreadnaughts with regenerative bugs and I'm just going 😨
dreads do not regen
even if they did you would just have to apply a tick of damage every couple seconds
Only dread that gains health is twins and you can avoid it by doing even damage, there is one guaranteed heal though so
they also restores armor on heal, making you waste even more ammo PLUS the differential heal
Good to know. That was one of my fears about it, especially with the Hiveguard being untouchable for significant periods of time.
would see a lot more complaining if that was the case lol
I believe the dreadnoughts aren’t affected by the Critical Weakness mutator too
is there a good Scout loadout that is really useful for DDs?
whatever you're comfortable using
if you just want a premade generalist loadout that doesn't require any OCs, i'd recommend 13211 M1K and 11313 boomstick with cryo nades
thank you
basically this M1K setup can kill up to 4 lined up grunts with a single focus shot
and the boomstick is boomstick
so you have acceptable enough waveclear while still keeping scout's good single target damage
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just managed to do DD solo, those refine Pump jacks were insane, the beer buff where I could one tap the terrain is clutch for digging a tunnel
As my go to id use m1k and cryo minelet zhukovs, but when there's enough dreadnaught objectives I'll bring taser boltshark and gk2 instead
EDD AU anyone?
since last week's EDD had haunted cave in it, im willing to bet my left kidney that this time we will have good ol Shield Disruption
Don't jinx it
Glacial strata 🙏
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Wouldn't complain. EDDs have been getting a lot easier recently.
Last weeks dives actually had more of a challenge
Any tips for EDD? I haven’t done one before
@pure violet call supply pods only when absolutely necessary for survival and if you need ammo just as you call the pod to enter the next stage, call it WHEN you drop in not as you are leaving
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IT'S MUFFIN TIME!
Good luck, everyone!
for karl!
where muffin
no muffin? 
Give them some time
They're writing something. Be patient.
no, muffin cant wait
DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Bared Tomb
Stage 1: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite +
2 Eggs |
Lethal Enemies
Stage 2:
4 Eggs +
150 Morkite |
Rival Presence
Stage 3:
250 Morkite +
2 M.U.L.E.s |
No Mutators
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Glacial Strata | Code Name: Calm Blackout
Stage 1:
3 M.U.L.E.s +
Dreadnought Twins |
Critical Weakness
Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 2:
200 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box |
Exploder Infestation
Stage 3: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite +
Dreadnought Twins |
Rival Presence
fungus bogs
Bogs, huh?
one more week without paycheck
I can handle it
oof
Well uh
Bog don't annoy me
I'm struggling a bit, because it's literally gone into the negatives for me
woe
cave leech be upon ye
2 eggs and some refining, huh?
Not a bad start.
yeah its regular, give em some minutes
Ah, alright
me as a scout should check the ceiling before leaving my team 200 meters away
im worried for the leeches 😢
I'm just hyped and impatient
then gettin grabbed and waiting a solid 20 mins for a revive
I like knowing what the Dive will throw at me
fungus bogs again... let's hope it isn't a map filled with goo or fart shrooms
It's glacial strata pog
I HATE GLACIAL STRATA
I HATE GLACIAL STRATA!!!
its all about the eggs
Heh. Cause I take the info from here. (am the guy who makes the reddit thread)
much love then
get ur diving gears on people
Refining and 2 Eggs with Lethal Enemies.
4 eggs and 150 Morkite with Rivals (ugh)
250 Morkite and 2 Mules with no mutators.
This is for regular dive, in the bogs
hm
shouldn't be too bad ngl
morkites pretty easy
1st stage is gonna be a pain in the ass though
ah fuck it ill get a group together
uh oh, rival presence
wait do I have a different deep dive
I had normal morkite, not liquid
for stage 1, anyway
last stage edd was a festival
the wells are on high places
and twins on a pretty bad cave gen lol
edd third
just quick question: do you guys love lok on engineer?
How did I get two fractions
I'm tempted to bring flamer for this week's EDD
Yes I love it
its the only weapon I use on engie. I love it.
eh i prefer shotgun or smg
am more consistent on those
3rd stage?
hell
stage 3 we used some 9 resup, there is just so much nitra
I used to feel the same way but once I got the whole weakpoint curving down I cant go back hahaha
U didn't have to suffer then
Good
Mini-shells shotgun >>>
huh, i didnt reset my game for new deep dives / did the old one and the new one (despite finishing the last weeks dives) and i got 6 total cores from normal deep dive
cool
That happened me last week
so you can get 12 cores every week lol my edd was caverns until i restarted
nah its not
just run behind the pod / hide in it and kill the 2 turrets
everythin else is pretty standard (for EDD)
its a challenge :D
3rd stage of elite deep dive is annoying cuz of hard landing + pumpjacks at the top of the cave.
Ah fuck rival prescence
we didnt manage to deal with all stuff around the drop pod
stage 3 is gonna take some real gaming
stay in the pod
bring a hellfire coilgun gunner
+1
let him snipe shit
refinery time tax
yea
Jeez
oh yeah this weeks DD is really chill. got the sub 45 achievement easily solo (had around 36 min) without even rushing. probably could've saved a lot of time with my slow pipe building
My plan for next run
I didn't think it will be that bad lol
had 600 nitra spare at the end of stage 3 EDD
there was just no bug spawns stage 1 or 2 i swear
skipping the nitra for that sweet sweet time save
low swarm size modifier
I don’t think I have hellfire yet :/
do you have magic bullet bulldog
I do not
Only have two for bulldog, been quite unlucky with all gunner secondaries tbf
do deep dives count towards the daily missions?

