deep-dive-discussion

[pallid jetty]

is it better to just do the objectives over grabbing gold or should I grab it?

[bleak wharf]

dont get gold

[waxen terrace]

in DD? nobody cares unless youre speedrunning
in EDD? yea skip gold cause more time spent usually means more spawns and its haz 5.5

in normal missions? mine the gold you leaf lover!

[waxen surge]

yeah, I don't care about levels. Brought a lvl 36 driller in EDD last week and we did just fine

[severe tusk]

I usually only mine gold if I am waiting for teammates to finish something or catch up to me. You can always just do a quick power attack to grab a little gold next to you while you're on the move too.

[bleak wharf]

so mine it when u can but dont make it a high priority?

[blazing current]

Yes, you can mine when you're waiting for the drop pod to spawn down

[surreal inlet]

yeah ya might as well mine it if there isnt anything to currrently do

but i did reacently lose the DD due to my friend lagging out and dissconnecting when i was counting on him to destroy the beamers while i held off the swarm
dammit
and he didnt get overclocks so we kinda have to do it again no matter what

[buoyant quartz]

Is there any way to fix swarms not being announced in elite deep dives? Or is that intentional

[bleak wharf]

?

they are announced

it might just be large ambushes

[blazing current]

In-between swarms are normal, and it's not exclusive to deep dives

It's just that in deep dives and 4 man game, the cooldown between mini-swarms are small and the number of grunts per swarm is larger

There's also swarms that are triggered by certain things, like walking close into a mini mule for the first time, or extracting an egg

[buoyant quartz]

Yeah, I know :p
They all work fine on normal games, haz 5, regular deep dive etc, just sometimes trigger without notifying me on elite deep dives

Guess its just timing/overlaps which bug it out

[hollow citrus]

only 4 missions have announced swarms: mining, refinery, egg and escort. and even then only the first 2 are random.

[viscid seal]

how's this week's elite deep dive?

[old widget]

PE also has announced swarms, there's just no /warning/ announcement. With PE, MC just says "Swarm! They're here!" and the crap hits the fan immediately, vs. the ~30 second pre-warning you get with other mission types

[scarlet pike]

Seems there are more people doing edd today than dd

[wraith shard]

That's because for once, for some miraculous reason... This week's EDD decided to be original and not spam Shield Disruption every week so yea that's why

[fading ruin]

So how's this dd and edd?

[scarlet pike]

Dd dunno but edd seems pretty tame this week

[blazing current]

EDD is quite a breeze

Stage 3 can be challenging tho, lethal with lots of swarms

[grave mantle]

How is the edd this week?

[burnt summit]

Manageable, last stage is where you fail if you do since it's salvage

[next blaze]

In 2 out of 3 runs, my team had 2 simultaneous bulks in the first salvage defense

[echo storm]

the edd was faster than the dd

[floral meteor]

I feel like 380 Nitra is a little much on stage 1

[steady elm]

Just got my second promotion

Its on Driller

[tall frost]

ive legimately had players that are like level 20 play and use their tools better than some 1000's guys

any kind of level requirements beyond 100 is just silly because at that point you should have a pretty solid grasp of everything the game has to throw at you

[echo storm]

the funnier titles have the best players

yeah guys who are bronze 3 but only play haz 4 or 5 are better than plat 3s who only play haz 3

[past drum]

what are the new deep dives? i dont see the message

[hazy glen]

stage 3 EDD is a monster

Salvage operation on that specific cave NEVER goes well

[floral meteor]

Why are there two drilldozer events

This is actually like

Horrible

[sly vapor]

we actually did it first try, be careful to clear everything in the room, there are a lot of cave leeches and flying spitballers

3S EED

[prisma acorn]

Still getting reload glitch on crossbow. Fire an arrow and bow Doesn’t reload itself. Only happens in deep dives. How has this still not been fixed? 😡 🤷‍♂️

[floral meteor]

Cry about it somewhere where it can get fixed at least

[prisma acorn]

I did report along with others first week of new weapons still hasn’t been fixed just wondering if other people are finding the same problem. it only happens during deep dives so I thought I would put it on the deep dive discussion.

[floral meteor]

#jira-bug-reporter #bug-discussion

[prisma acorn]

Already put it on there

[strong cairn]

Glad to hear it wasn’t just me though I had it happen last week, and I was so confused

[restive trout]

Where the hell is the second blasted minimule in the first stage of the DD?

I paced the cave up and down twice and I find jack.

[tall frost]

just finished it by bunkering up during the defense section

highly recommend although we had 1 bulk detonator spawn inbetween the uplink and refuel sections

[grave mantle]

what about the bulks?

[tall frost]

we all ran outside and killed it since it didnt spawn during the waves

idk how preseeded spawns work though and if a bulk might spawn during the defense section

always good to have an escape tunnel ready though 👍

[grave mantle]

is an escape tunnel a mostly pre-drilled tunnel? Then when emergency you break open the last bit?

[tall frost]

yeah or have an engi fill a driller hole and then break it when you need to run

[strong cairn]

Yeah easy driller strat is to dig the uplink down about 10 feet and then drop a satchel and blow up a nice hole. Dig a nice tunnel out and up so bugs can filter in and then dig a second prepped escape tunnel

Play smarter not harder on haz 5.5 lol

[old widget]

…but if you must do this, please agree to do it with your teammates by consensus…nothing more infuriating than having this strat forced upon you

[merry lagoon]

failing 3rd stage of EDD for 2 weeks in a row

sad times

[vale rampart]

Who needs to get to the 3rd Stage when you can clip through the floor 3 times and fall to your death

[strong cairn]

Yeah don’t just assume people want to cheese. Some people enjoy living on the edge

[lost jungle]

tfw im in an edd and my entire team are just pussies

💀

[tall frost]

yeah this 100%

also its risky if you got something like 2+ scouts or some nasty red warnings like mactera or the spooky ghost one

[hoary cove]

idk why you wud do that when the uplink was easily the easiest part of the mission

[strong cairn]

I mean….. I haven’t done the EDD, it was mostly just expanding on the guy above

Providing some context and info for the greenies

I don’t bunker, shits boring

[wraith shard]

when yall are saying bunkering, do you mean when you dig a tunnel and have an engi cover it so nothing can get to you ?

I stand by this sense this started becoming a thing, if the bugs dont have a path to you for longer then 10 seconds everything should despawn then spawn WITH you in your bunker. screw you

[hoary cove]

if you make it to the uplink, ur probably good, barely anything spawned compared to the eggs + mule

[stoic summit]

I thought bunkering entailed burrowing into a wall or underground with one tight entry point, creating an artificial choke, and was wondering why bunkering was so frowned upon because that’s playing to drillers’ strengths

[hoary cove]

makes the game boring and isn’t needed

that’s mostly why

[stoic summit]

true

although if you want to make your sticky flames build work on mactera plague

it’s out there lol

[hoary cove]

Also similiar to zip lines, if the person using it doesn’t know what their doing, it can easily screw u over

[hoary cove]

just don’t use sticky fuel on mactera plague

[buoyant quartz]

Lost connection on edd 3/3 twice in a row now, with apparently no way to reconnect :) love it

[wraith shard]

Im all for what you said, im aginst it when people cover the holes and prevent stuff form reaching them

[stoic summit]

but I mean destructible terrain is literally one of the selling points of the game

why not use it to your advantage?

I agree abusing that to avoid damage altogether is stupid

[wraith shard]

I am ok with digging a bunker but if you patch it with an engi to prevent stuff from reaching you is when its not ok

everything on the map should spawn IN the bunker with you at that point in my opinion sense they dont have a viable path to you

[stoic summit]

or you start dying of suffocation, like in low oxygen

lol

if enemies can’t get to you let’s say air can’t get to you

[raven grove]

The issue with bunkering is a quarter of the time a bulk will spawn and wreck you.

[limpid pond]

People hate bunkering because:
-Most bunkers are built by idiots, so they just cause wipes and there's a stereotype that they're "digging graves". "You can't shoot the bugs well" and "Bulks ruin it" are just the after effect of dozens of Drillers throwing shit at the wall and not sticking anything.
-A well built bunker is boring as shit. Just shoot down the line, don't worry about anything, maaaaybe you might have to run if a Bulk shows up (assuming it doesn't just get frozen and it's business as usual, or the tunnel isn't already wide enough to shoot it as soon as you see it). No worrying about getting shot, no need to look behind you, no need to worry about enemy types or formations, not even a need to aim. You're just playing as an Engineer Sentry and it feels cheap.

[real shell]

completed my first EDD

2nd try lesgoo

[jolly hazel]

also adding to the conversation

bunkering is permanent

because you cant move the uplink up, only down

so if a driller """"forgets"""" to ask about bunkering, you are either halfway fucked with a horrible defense position or you have to bunker

and God forbid no engie to cover the initial hole

[zealous pond]

one thing with bunkering is if you leave no entries whatsoever a bulk (or at least an oppressor) WILL spawn

so at the very least you want to leave one entryway

and anytime you do anything without communication, especially bunkering or pressing buttons, you're doing it wrong

[humble zinc]

isnt that fake?

its even on the wiki

"The game manually spawns Oppressors or Bulk Detonators if dwarves build a bunker"
FALSE
There doesn't seem to be any code in the game capable of recognizing and reacting to player tactics. Although Bulk Detonators are indeed drawn from a special spawn pool, it doesn't depend on the presence of bunkers. Oppressors have a percentage-based chance to replace normal Praetorians in a wave and do not reuse the special spawn pool rules. Neither of those enemies are more or less likely to appear in response to how the players approach combat.

from DRG wiki Common misconceptions page

[limpid pond]

Bulks showing up or not gets rolled at the start of the mission, not mid-mission when the game detects you've drilled 10 meters and used a Satchel

[hoary cove]

that being said, if you encounter a bulk before the uplink, bunkering is a risky strategy because you know for sure they are in the spawn pool

[humble zinc]

yep

[hoary cove]

So again, not saying it’s a bad strategy, just a boring one that can fuck you over due to bad rng

[humble zinc]

oh yeah my RNJesus on this game is just the worse

[grave marsh]

A little late but how difficult is the dd and edd this week

[humble zinc]

DD is very easy, if you can go thought the boring 2x escort missions kek

no lack of of nitra too

[ember otter]

Lol, what kind of braindead driller tries to make a bunker without an engi.

[ornate badger]

2 scout OCs so far, thanks game

[zealous pond]

Honestly don't know. All I can say is that every time I've bunkered with everything closed up an opp or bulk has spawned. When there's been an entryway it hasn't happened

[bleak dagger]

Bunkering is fine

if you dont want to bunker thats fine

but ill do what helps my team to survive

[willow seal]

I guess the only ones that no for certain, are us who have experienced bulk free bunkers. You just have to bunker more - you'll see 🙃

[rocky horizon]

ngl havent thought of making a bunker before, probably gonna try it when i do the EDD

[thorn jewel]

Its certainly not required by any means as people have said, but it does make it easier if done correctly

[rocky horizon]

for sure, i just want to try it out since ive never done it before, maybe try to just make a little entrance for the bugs so we can just mow them down

[willow seal]

It can be done.

Unlike the hack, the bugs don't actually disrupt the timers at the relay and fuel pod - only leaving the sphere does, so a careful driller can make a bunker underneath, with a long and easily defendable tunnel as the only entrance.

Also, bunkers are way more fun, with that long tunnel to shoot down and an exit strategy prepared.

[stoic summit]

just attempted the EDD

third stage is pretty brutal

[ember otter]

To each their own R&S, personally find them boring as hell especially if they're actually made properly. 4 dwarves just standing at end of tunnel shooting occasionally is snoozefest.

[potent vector]

I would bunker only when it’s swarmageddon+golden bugs on PE

infinite gold baby

[sly vapor]

oh my god you guys are over here whining bulks or oppressor spawns...
have you ever thought that when something like this happens, you can just...drill down more?

if it's an oppressor the driller can either dig down the uplink and make people follow him, or driller and gunner keep shooting the bugs while scout and engi kill the oppressor then they dig down or engi puts some platforms.

If it's a bulk, driller starts drilling down the uplink while people stay on top of the falling uplink and shoot only the bulk. when it explodes, you make a second bunker

i tried both of these and they work perfectly, im tired of hearing people whining "WAAAAAAAAH BUT IF BULK OR OPP BUNKERS ARE BIG NO NO WAAAAAH"

PLAY SMART. AND IF THINGS GET HARDER, PLAY SMARTER.
YOU HAVE GODDAMN DRILLS AND WEAPONS, MIX THE TWO IN THE BEST OUTCOME POSSIBLE.

though be careful of the drills fuel lol

[blazing current]

You play how you would like how to play, easy

But if you're not the host, common courtesy is to ask whether the host wants to bunker or not

[dusky beacon]

check pins

[torn verge]

you don't have to drill the uplink down
it's possible to make a shallow bunker underneath it and be in the radius
which also means it's a lot easier to bail out in an emergency, as you're so close to the surface

[past drum]

ty

[fresh ivy]

I didn’t realise how intense escorts were as one player

[craggy owl]

I have never ever once played this game single player. Maybe I'll try it sometime

[fresh ivy]

You have Bosco who is amazing

He will go and get eggs/aquarks for you

But escort missions, a group is the better play

Something with fire power and a driller to go through the beamers fast

[humble zinc]

I just send Bosco to mine the tip of the beamers lol

[violet mauve]

Bosco can mine them?

[oblique roost]

Deep discussion

[humble zinc]

yes

can also carry doretta, which is very important

[jolly hazel]

sounds like a good way to make a tomb lol

[timber rune]

what does RN mean

[humble zinc]

RNG

but as a joke for RNG(jesus) lol

[timber rune]

what does that mean

[humble zinc]

Random Number Generators, in game specifically, the stuff your map will generate for you

[echo storm]

sometimes good sometimes bad

[humble zinc]

sometimes bad, sometimes kek, sometimes good

[turbid dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/sometimes-maybe-good-maybe-shit-gif-15610659

[errant moat]

That third stage of EDD, oh man

Deceptively rough

[turbid dawn]

no it isnt

its because ppl rush into the

cave

without checking or waiting for light

i had 3 bulks and a nemesis in my run

[errant moat]

Exactly lol

2nd stage also has two dreadnoughts spawn sometimes

[turbid dawn]

yup but you can just ignore the second

[idle meteor]

imo this edd was really not that bad

[sonic palm]

This was a bit more manageable compared to the last EDD.

Then again. Last week's EDD was my first as well.

[buoyant quartz]

yeah just got my first solo edd this one cus I crashed/dced in multiplayer 3 times lol,
last stage is tough for sure, but just had to play it really slow, clear everything out after every action, don't just try speed through 3 legs at once or something,

last edd's 2nd one was painful, edd equarks with eggs is pretty much a constant flow of enemies, and super slow solo, overwhelmed me each time, was fine while I had ammo, but very little time to restock

[glossy walrus]

for solo PE you want to be very efficient, make sure bosco is always out digging/delivering an aquarq while you focus on surviving/clearing bugs/maybe getting nitra if you have time

honestly easier in solo though as long as you can kill the bugs yourself while bosco is busy mining stuff

since ceiling ones are easily accessible via him

[ornate badger]

just finished, went alright, 1 bulk each stage but thankfully at a good time so didnt cause any problems

[raven glade]

Have you ever wiped so hard the game crashes?

[potent vector]

no, I use a bidet

[raven glade]

😐

[thorn jewel]

The laggiest I’ve ever been was swarmageddon golden bugs with the repair mules/defend point mission type

After the first defend, I’m pretty sure there was like 400+ gold individually on the ground

Dropped to like 20fps

[knotty heart]

guys someone has SS of this weeks EDD?

or knows the modifiers and mision types?

my bad already saw thge pinned comment

[quiet wyvern]

Yea Muffin Cat updates it every week

[devout jetty]

this week's dd is painfully long

DX

[unkempt lantern]

it is long

not that hard, I was almost able to solo it. Plenty of nitra. Worth it to pre drill on the third stage to get the eggs even if it takes longer, so you dont have to stress fighting and refueling

[waxen terrace]

just grab the eggs while refueling

its haz 3.5 anyways

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/1000713090976981083/20220724033453_1.jpg?width=1155&height=650

This week EDD is good with randoms

last stage was fun

[wraith shard]

is deepdives a good way to grind xp

or just doing missions over and over

what ones faster

[blazing current]

Doing missions over and over is way faster

Preferably double XP or double mutators, in haz 5

You can get more than 20K in double xp, single mutator, haz 5

[thorn arrow]

deep dives take a while to renew as well

so if you grinded the same deep dive over and over you'll probably get bored

and once complete I don't think you can get xp if you replay it right?

[humble zinc]

Nah you still can, you just don't get the cores

[old widget]

Yeah DD is a horrible way to grind IMO. Also no crafting materials either, except the occasional hoarder

[harsh fog]

EDD this week is kinda cursed. easy mode til the very end

3 runs so far all failed at/after power cells

[waxen terrace]

dd and edds are way slower than spamming normal missions for xp

[potent vector]

also normal missions sometimes can have double xp modifier

[jolly hazel]

also they don't qualify for season pass bonuses

[timber rune]

what does PE mean?

[unkempt lantern]

Point Extraction

[humble zinc]

PE was very easy to get the Haz 4 no ressup/no down achievement

and i think its prob the best option too for haz5

[viscid knot]

need 3 lads with brains to run elite dive

[old widget]

#lfg for your platform will be your best bet - folks are generally looking there for games, not here

[modern talon]

i am still new to doing deep dives what perks would you recommend for them

[violet mauve]

Iron Will.

[ornate badger]

Field medic and dash

[dusky beacon]

if scout field medic and iw, if not the one above or iw and dash

[modern talon]

thank you

[idle meteor]

i feel like i should swap out heightened senses with dash

especially since i use lok1

[mighty hinge]

so when i am looking at my forge inventory i have a bunch of things i can make for overclocks, accessories, skins .... do those things like cost matrix cores or just the resources?

where do i see how many matrix cores i got if that is still a currency

[tall meadow]

When you see it already in your forge , you just need the resources

The amount of blank matrix cores you have will be at your top right corner next to your credits when you’re in the space rig

[mighty hinge]

the number in the blue hexagon?

[tall meadow]

No

[mighty hinge]

there is no number next to my credits

[tall meadow]

If there is no number on the left of your credits

Means you do not have any spare blank matrix cores

[mighty hinge]

what do you need th blank matrix fores for again

to forge?

[tall meadow]

Blank matrix cores you can put them in a matrix core infuser which you get from completing machine events

[mighty hinge]

but i dont need them to forge

[tall meadow]

If you have a blank core , you can put it in the infuser

[mighty hinge]

i can just go crazy and forge as much as i want

[tall meadow]

Yes

[mighty hinge]

as long as i have the minerals and credits?

[tall meadow]

Correct

[mighty hinge]

blank matrix cores just allow you to get more blueprints to forge

[tall meadow]

Because blank cores are only used to get overclocks, cosmetics and stuff you see in the forge

yes

Blank core input in machine event infuser—> Choose 1/3 rewards —> blank core becomes overclock/cosmetic depending what you chose and can be forged in the forge

[mighty hinge]

and to get blank cores you do weekly assignemnt or deep dive once per week

correct?

when is reset day

[dull agate]

On thursdays

At around noon / 1pm (at least in my utc + 2 zone)

[tall meadow]

Deep dive and elite deep dive each give a blank , a weapon core and a cosmetic core

Along with your weekly core assignment which also appears after new reset

[mighty hinge]

so i got time to do the dive before thursday

[tall meadow]

Yup

DD = haz 3.5, 4, 4.5, EDD = 4.5, 5, 5.5

[old widget]

obligatory "DD is 3/3.5/3.5"

[marble veldt]

DD is 3, 3.5, 3.5

[tall meadow]

Fucking

I gotta stop misremembering

Even after so long

Skreeeeeeeee

When DD and EDD just feels the same after a certain point you forget numbers

[marble veldt]

Be like me, run the "All Dives Haz 5" mod

[tall meadow]

Ye I did that before still don’t feel the impact too much

[old widget]

and then mod to 6x2

[tall meadow]

One of the times where I’m in full oh shit now is the 5x2 with a bunch of other tweaks

[modern talon]

my power just went out in the middle of a elite deep dive

i feel so bad for the person i was with

[minor bloom]

Were you host?

[glossy walrus]

meanwhile we do DD after EDD so haz 3.5 just feels like a complete joke

we disrespect the bugs so much, meleeing a lot of them to death rather than bothering with bullets

[hexed wagon]

hhh

this week's DD really do be miserable huh

[severe tusk]

It's just long.

[ornate badger]

Dd and edd took the same time for me with randoms, 52min ea

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[violet mauve]

DD is fine overall. The second drilldozer can be a bit odd with low gravity, though.

[magic lava]

What should I expect from this week's deep dive ?

[violet mauve]

Mushrooms, poison gas, mactera, Menaces, maybe Bulks.

Bring a flamethrower or cryo cannon.

[desert forge]

What week is this Deep Dive?

[gentle vessel]

I was wondering :

1. if u bring doretta into the drop pod in the first drilldozer mission, would it be still in the drop pod during ither missions
2. if so is it possible to bring 2 dorettas back home

[violet mauve]

No, the head gets erased.

[gentle vessel]

Damn that sucks

[brazen pier]

I think I was in that game lol. I was scout, phoenoxjames. It's all good, we got you back in

[queen patrol]

the dd looks like an absolute snoozefest

[past drum]

yeah its just

long

[wanton knot]

just did the edd solo because my internet is garbo rn. stage 3 was fun lmfao

only went down twice because i got cocky on the last stage waiting for the droppod to open

i think i had a total of 3 bulks on that last stage. thankfully none of them showed up during the defend parts so i was chillin

[echo storm]

the dd takes forever

[modern talon]

it takes so long

[sweet summit]

last stage a bulk det triggered an egg swarm while dotty was drilling lol

we clutched it tho

[idle meteor]

oh yeah we decided to isolate the hearthstone terrain from the rest of the other terrain in this dd

we gave up a quarter of the way lmao

[wise iris]

mission choices are absolute genius

3rd is just a mix of the previous 2

[wise iris]

fun i didnt get a single bulk... my coop partner lamented stage 3 because of bulks

also i mean normal dd 🤔

[hollow citrus]

inb4 we get a 3 escort dd

[old widget]

thankfully that doesn’t seem to be possible, according to the dive history the DD/EDD stage generator has never produced two consecutive stages with the same primary objective

[viscid knot]

sooooo wheres the LFG chat?

how do i get a dank group for elite dives

[jolly hazel]

#lfg-steam

[lusty flare]

Lethal bugs final stage is a bit of a doozy but I managed to not get downed thanks to infinite resupplys and my scout running pheromones

[severe tusk]

My random team was dropping like flies on stage 3 of the EDD. I was the last dwarf up 3-4 times, but we pulled it out, even when a bulk spawned right above us on the refuel stage and made a big crater where we were defending--which obviously is not ideal.

[peak summit]

Twice I've failed on the Lethal Bugs stage

[wise pagoda]

any suggestions for engi build for edd? playing with one scout

last stage of edd is just brutal with lethal

[peak summit]

Same Q but gunner build

[dim fractal]

team of 4 we got 5 bulk dets on the EDD.

[dim fractal]

mole on coilgun for bulk dets/dreads/oppressors, neurotoxin autocannon for trash mobs

high ceiling with acid spitters too, you dont wanna slow down and use a minigun or missile launcher.

2 acid spitter shots will usually end you if your shields are down

[peak summit]

cheers

[dim fractal]

all the mini mules are in the same spot too, so prepare for a massive swarm

[fading quest]

what a thoroughly unenjoyable deep dive

i honestly wouldn't have done it if i knew it was this boring

shouldn't have done it solo either

[violet mauve]

A Bulk did ruin our run after all. You and I were very lucky to not get any.

[tall meadow]

We had bulks but they were nothing but pesky little things

[violet mauve]

I played Gunner alongside an Ice Driller and Scout.

Things went amazingly well for stages 1 and 2.

Then came stage 3 and I jinxed it.

Bulk appeared literally behind them, smashed them dead, then proceeded to wail on their corpses. Right next to Doretta, mind.

Nothing I could do about it fast enough.

Doesn't help that we had reached the Ommoran, too.

[vagrant wave]

dis deep dive elite is possible???

[ornate badger]

Ye

[vagrant wave]

I already tried 4 times

any tips for scout?

[tall meadow]

Just the usual,
focus on nitra , grapple around and help to support your other teammates

[violet mauve]

And shoot priority targets during swarms.

Take heat off the team.

[young harbor]

i had a betc in the last stage of edd

[timid matrix]

Jeez bet that made things extra fun

My usual squad and I just finished the EDD - we normally get close but don't actually finish. This one was actually fairly easy up until the last round.

[young harbor]

it died quickly cuz i had the breech cutter

[vagrant wave]

yes

[molten helm]

good lord deep dive elite is so painful

[hybrid oar]

Wow... I just checked what this Dive rotation is, I'm so happy, Drilldozer and Liquid morkite are my favorite missions to do lmao

[hushed eagle]

Are they?

[hoary cove]

iv done it 3 times so far so ye

[south oak]

This week DD has 2 escort missions

[candid minnow]

It was a blast solo!

[wraith shard]

damn EDD will almost always become a shit show if its a 3-4 man lobby, swarm stacking is 10x brutal, probably the best way to beat EDD's easier is by doing duos with another player who knows how to play and communicate. Managed to easily beat this week's EDD even with just a rank 50+ engi with me as a duo and me as scout, maybe only because we had full comms during that time.

[jolly hazel]

just kill things

[fossil schooner]

man this dd took forever

escort, refinery, and escort again

[mental urchin]

if you find it difficult, consider hosting and putting lvl requirements in lobby name

[echo storm]

the funnier the title the better the players

[fossil schooner]

^

[leaden mango]

Is there any way to ensure a core drop?

or it is pure rng?

cause every weapon overclock that i got for scout

[burnt sandal]

if you're talking about machine event spawning in the missions : It's random

[leaden mango]

it was either crossbow or AR

not the event

but the reward

[burnt sandal]

random as well

[leaden mango]

i just want one M1000 overclock

oh well

thanks again!

already got 4 crossbow and 4 AR overclocks

[tulip idol]

G1k is upcoming scout nade, right? 👀

[leaden mango]

fork

kek

[half patrol]

whats the current deep dive for this week?

[old widget]

Pinned messages

[sterile basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/w4bjoc/weekly_deep_dives_thread_21st_july_2022/

[brisk pagoda]

broadcasting a level requirement will only get you the worst players the game has to offer

[crimson imp]

@junior harbor not really seeing the upside of boiler ray rn

does the boiler ray explosion even get the bonus on frozen?

[grim tundra]

Just beat edd with constantly dying driller and trigger happy engi and scout who left mid stage 2 i feel so proud of us

[hoary cove]

boiler ray is honestly the only reason i use cwc

i think i did vim and boiler ray for the edd this week

[junior harbor]

Boiler is absolute gas vs tiny enemies and closely grouped frozen grunts

[wraith shard]

Realistically speaking, if u want good players joining ur lobby, ur gonna have a better luck naming the lobby "sussy bakas only" compared to "Gold 1 dwarves only"

[half kraken]

question, when the wiki says I can only claim deep dive rewards once, does that count for both normal and elite?

[tall meadow]

yes

once you get all 3 cores for the week, you cannot get anymore cores until next DD reset

[jolly hazel]

1 set for each

[shell raft]

Funny lobby names make the experience 100% less toxic

The sweat is there at least on higher hazards but ppl with lobby names like that generally don't get mad at other people's honest mistakes

[atomic prawn]

I'm here for a good time, not a long time 😂 If I die, I die

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[unreal rain]

Rock And stone! What's the best time starting with deep dives? I'm a bitty cautious about trying them. I just recently promoted my driller for the first time. Any recommendations?

[thorn jewel]

If you’re comfortable on haz4, EDD will be sweaty for the last stage, and DD will be a cakewalk. And find accepting teammates, since low level/newer to DD/EDD

ask lots of questions, I certainly did when downed

I started a couple weeks ago on an actual nightmare of an EDD and it took us a bit but I learned how to better play/be a team player at my class

Best time to learn is the present

Best time for finding teams seems to be the next 48h

And I don’t play driller yet so can’t give build sugggestions

[blazing current]

If you are comfortable with haz 5, you are pretty much ready for EDD

[atomic prawn]

DD any time

[unreal rain]

I'm comfortable with haz3, I'm somewhat dying in haz4. But it depends.

[thorn jewel]

Did it reset already?

I’m not tired yet so was considering knocking out the DD

[gray palm]

weekly stuff resets <t:1659006000:f>

[thorn jewel]

Oh man I’m tired, 1 day and 1 hour mixed up

Thanks

[warm carbon]

I finished a deep dive but didn't really get the matrix core

Like after the first stage it showed that i earned it

But i don't see it in my inventory

[idle meteor]

the first stage gives u a blank core

it should show up next to ur cash

[warm carbon]

Yeah its not

So i got an oc that i already had on the second level

Do you think that could have cancelled my blank matrix?

[left geode]

what are the modifiers on the dd?

[raven grove]

Look at the pins

[south oak]

Well

EDD'ed

Lost on 3rd stage

[crude needle]

Same

Honestly it's the farthest I've gotten on an EDD

[sleek verge]

You'll get only OCs you haven't gotten, if youve unlocked em all then you'll get a blank one

[warm carbon]

I still didn't get anything after finishing 2 deep dives:/

Is there a limit of ocs that you have in the forge

That are pending to be created

[sleek verge]

No

You only get rewards for the first one of the week

[warm carbon]

Oh

[sleek verge]

So weekly you will get 3 of each type of OC if you do DD, EDD, and weekly core hunt

Eventually blanks will pile up

[violet mauve]

You also variably get a weapon or cosmetics core every 5 forgings.

[warm carbon]

Ik that

So its a thing to only get 3 cores per week from playing sessions

[raven grove]

The max is 9 cores per week. 3 from Core hunt, 3 from DD, 3 from EDD. Plus whatever forge mastery you get.

3 of those cores will be cosmetic, 3 will be weapon, and 3 will be blank.

The blanks are filled by events in non-deep dive missions.

[sacred escarp]

I may need some help in edd

anyone up to it?

oh well, I found a lobby already 😅

[shell raft]

Just soloed my first deep dive

[warm carbon]

Thanks

[viscid plinth]

guys should i send my rant/review of drg

[jolly hazel]

not here

[viscid plinth]

where then

[scarlet grove]

What’s this edd

[old widget]

Pinned messages has the latest dive info. Post is updated weekly (edited in place though, so the post date does look old)

[sour stag]

Does the bulk on stage 3 (in the EDD) right near the end always spawn for everyone, or did I just get really unlucky.

[warm carbon]

Did my first elite deep dive

Made it till stage 2

307 kills as driller

[torpid solar]

It’s random, on some of my runs there was a bulk in stage 3 and some not.

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[sour stag]

Alright cool, so I got RNGed then, lmao

[jolly hazel]

things you must deal with

[lean inlet]

Anyone have the game crash on a deep dive? Was on stage 3 edd and game just froze. First time that's happened in 150hrs

[ornate badger]

Yea it happens

[signal acorn]

Anyone down to EDD soon,? Just gotta clock out and give a coworker a ride home

[hasty hamlet]

crash happens to me quite a bit, it happens mostly after alt + tabbing out of the game on the stage results screen, the one that shows you the matrix cores

[muted path]

seems like the EDD is kinda bugged

anyone actually beat it yet?

[tall meadow]

Yes

Plenty of people

[ornate badger]

Can confirm

[brittle seal]

lol id be down now

[brazen musk]

Today is the day

[fresh turtle]

wow i genuinely think I got the worst possible spawn pool overall for that last stage of the EDD

Grabbers Bulks and Shellbacks

and only swarmers, nothing else

no exploders or anything

every "slot" was taken up by swarmers

[frank arrow]

wow, thats a special kind of awful

i got oppressors, bulks and shellbacks on my edd run

no bunkers for us

[fresh turtle]

I guarantee you at least 60 swarmers spawned with each wave of bugs

and thanks to lethal enemies they did way too much fucking damage

[brazen musk]

I also noticed unnanounced swarmageddon

Was confusing

[slow iris]

why is the normal DD so ass this week

[sick lake]

A refinery and 2 dozers is booty but its soo generous with the nitra. Hit stage 3 and had over 1K nitra

[blazing current]

Glacial strata EDD 🙏

[brazen musk]

Why

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[obtuse pasture]

figured I would get the EDD done solo before the next one goes live.. got to the final stage .. solo vs 2x opressors + bulk + big rollie and lethal enemies.. rip

holding a salvage point solo in these conditions is borderline impossible.. sometimes the game just decides.. TIME TO DIE

[sly kettle]

Soon™

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[marble veldt]

IT'S MUFFIN TIME!

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone.

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Brave Expanse
Stage 1: 3 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Classic | Elite Threat
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | Low Gravity
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Twins) + 150 Morkite | Haunted Cave

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Exposed Caves
Stage 1: 7 Aquarq + 150 Morkite | Parasites
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Exploder Infestation
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption

The pin can take a while, but I keep the above message up to date as fast as I can

[jolly hazel]

salt pits

😋

[scarlet pike]

So far looks doable 👀

[robust mirage]

Great biome honestly

[marsh plover]

Sandblasted corridors

[robust mirage]

Hollow Bough + Shield Disruption was hell

[blazing current]

You're jinxing it

[scarlet pike]

Though that’s going to be interesting

Morkite on a point extract

[hollow citrus]

SALT PITS

I have missed you

[marsh plover]

20 minutes EDD speedrun?

[brazen musk]

I was watching someone on the 2nd stage of the EDD but they aborted because of a bulk

[marsh plover]

Damn

I got some volatile bullets for bulks

[scarlet pike]

cmon easy stage 3

[marsh plover]

Another eggs🥺

[scarlet pike]

There’s always eggs

Hopefully there will be plenty of nitra

[dull nexus]

Inb4 shield disruption

[brittle hound]

getoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyhead

[dull nexus]

Laughs evilly

[brazen musk]

EDD Stage 3
Kill 2 dreadnoughts (twins + idk)
2 mini mules
Shield disruption

[brazen musk]

You jinxed it

[marble veldt]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[brittle hound]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dull nexus]

AHA

Haha haha

HAHAHAHA

[marsh plover]

No shield disruption they said

[sly kettle]

That's super painful looking.

[brittle hound]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[vivid zinc]

lol

[marsh plover]

Time to die

[dull nexus]

LMAO

😂

That is rich

[idle meteor]

SHIELD DISRUPTION NOOOOOOOOO

~~(also how do i change union role here again i already changed it in game)~~nvm its changed

[ivory marten]

Now I wait.

[wanton knot]

oh my god its actually another sd

[brazen musk]

2nd dread for edd is classic

Nvm

[sonic palm]

Another Shield Dis.

[brazen musk]

Already updated I mean

[sonic palm]

https://tenor.com/view/come-at-me-bro-bro-boy-sword-swing-gif-17606322

[potent vector]

what the hell is with stage 3 SD spam now

[blazing current]

You jinxed it

[robust mirage]

Shield Disruption :(

[potent vector]

3 weeks in a row, SD in stage 3

[robust mirage]

Hey atleast it ain't hollow bough

[wanton knot]

was lethal last week

[robust mirage]

Yeah it was lethal enemies

[wanton knot]

looking at the archive rn lmao

[robust mirage]

Week before that, SD was on first iirc

[wanton knot]

haunted cave on the dd stage 3? jesus

[karmic lantern]

Heck yeah spooky cave!

[marsh plover]

Haunted cave is a ghost one?

[potent vector]

how's nitra going?

I wanna try some 0 ammo efficiency builds

[sly kettle]

I fucking hate Haunted Cave.

Worst solo modifier ever

[marsh plover]

Play with team

[ivory marten]

Hm. DD this week ain't too bad.

[sly kettle]

I rather play alone than with people I don't know. And I don't mean it in an elitist sorta way. I don't like playing with randoms.

[ivory marten]

Wait why did it switch back to unknown for DD.

[toxic summit]

hey any of you guys down for a deep dive

[ivory marten]

NO.

NOT TWINS.

FUCK.

I despise the twins.

[wanton knot]

i have the most trouble with hiveguard

[potent vector]

hiveguard is just tedious, too much of a bullet sponge

[placid fulcrum]

this edd is easy af lol

16 mins in second stage

[reef bison]

I really want an EDD stage 3 with low o2 and shield disruption
Would separate the men from the boiz

[thorn jewel]

The hollow bough stage 2 one wasn’t pleasant

Hidden brood nexuses and a couple breeders and spitballers and ceiling minimules

[hollow citrus]

elimination in haunted cave

eww

[placid fulcrum]

just finished it

sadly couldn't speed run it because we miss timed the bulk to insta kill twins

only managed to squeeze 31 mins definitely could've done 25 lol

[potent vector]

oh hello there, thanks for the carry

[placid fulcrum]

you're welcome

could've been a no death if that gunner's shield lasted 0.3 secs longer lmao

[lyric rune]

Would agree with you, usually i pick scout if i'm going to start a haunted cave

But for some reason i haven't met the ghost detonator this time

No sounds either

[sick lake]

I hate haunted cave with dreads. Last time i got that in a deep dive, i got forced into tight quarters with twins and ghost. Sucked real bad

[knotty frost]

Even 3rd was chill

[cerulean lichen]

I feel you, it is tough to get singled out by 3 big guys. Im here if you wanna talk about it, i gotchu

[sly kettle]

I sadly did.

[reef bison]

Easy dives this week
EDD done in 30 mins

Would have been quicker if team didnt keep going down for dreadnought fight stage 3

Mfs had 20 downs
Fun though

[scarlet pike]

Ok after doing stage 3

That was easy

[reef bison]

Stupidly easy

It feels like they're making regular dives harder whereas Elites are getting easier

[marble veldt]

Time to boot up ye Olde "All Dives Hazard 5" mod

[past drum]

so true

[tropic turtle]

Note to self: don't do black box immediately on 2nd stage unless you wanna get rear ended by bulk

[jolly hazel]

<@&296918282403840000>

[dull nexus]

Omg free nitra

[jolly hazel]

do not click the link

[past drum]

i got free nitro from steam

awesome

[scarlet pike]

Welp

That’s both deep dives done in under 1 hour and 30 mins

Feels good

[ivory marten]

WHY DID NO ONE WARN ME ABOUT HTE LEECH IN PHASE 3 HELP

[reef bison]

Damn that shit was so funny
The room is so small with so many corridors for the bugs to crawl down too
Wiped my whole team out
Still managed to clutch it though

I actually liked the stage design for this weeks dives

[ember terrace]

The one week I can't play is the easy edd

:(

[knotty frost]

All EDDs are easy if you're DWARF enough

[jolly hazel]

some arent

[sonic palm]

Some are filthy monkey Leaf Lovers.

[blazing current]

Where open edd lobby

[jolly hazel]

#lfg-steam

fun little edd

had to kick a scout who was button happy and engie left midway through stage 1

impromptu 2-man took 45 minutes so i assume a good team can get done within low 30's

[modern talon]

on the last stage of the dd this gunner popped both of the dreadknoughts at the same time when no one was ready

[placid fulcrum]

On my case i had the other 3 deal black box and i deal with the eggs (i was scout), i had to retreat to them because i was overwhelmed by the numbers lol

So i already thinned down a good chunk of the swarm since the lads are chilling charging the box

[placid fulcrum]

Honestly i like to do that on DD too ready-or-not because of how easy and boring DD is

Gotta make it spicy lol

[reef bison]

Damn why would you do that

The other dwarves on my team were mining mini mule legs during the dreadnought twins 💀

[echo storm]

based

[reef bison]

I just shouted "stop doing that!"

[echo storm]

so long as u get the dub

[placid fulcrum]

Because it's way too easy for me lol

Like the time i made the other DD interesting by breaking both dreads and blackbox same time

We nearly lost and chewed through like 8 supply

But man that was the best DD in a long time

[reef bison]

I mean I mined all 6 eggs within 20 seconds on the DD earlier but that's regular

[reef bison]

Sounds fun though

If I can make deep dives more challenging I will

But EDDs you gotta have a good team for that shit

My guys were all balls no brains

[placid fulcrum]

Best part is

I had to go through all that hell

As scout

[reef bison]

Scout

I've only done 2 EDDs with him

[placid fulcrum]

when you have a veteran gunner who can't deal with reg dread, twins and black box at the same time

[jolly hazel]

how did he pop two at once of opposite sides of the map

[placid fulcrum]

it's amazing that i could operate under the pressure as a scout lmao

[placid fulcrum]

i have a tryhard scout build for EDDs if you want lol

[reef bison]

hipster embed dets

[placid fulcrum]

nah it's actually weakspot based hipster and special powder

[reef bison]

Special powder 💀

My man you must get all the kills

[placid fulcrum]

hipster is on 22223

so it punishes you if you don't hit weakspots

[idle meteor]

this weeks dds are very dreadnought heavy

HYPERPROP TIME!

[blazing current]

We almost killed the dread twins with detonator

Too bad my timing was too late

[past drum]

these edds are getting easier every week

took 30 minutes with randoms

[feral pilot]

Maybe player base is getting more skilled?

[echo storm]

i like trying to use supply drops to kill dreads

[reef bison]

Is there a nemesis in everyones DD stage 3?

[violet warren]

Did anyone else crash in stage 1 of the EDD?

[next vessel]

Hmm usually games that make challenges get harder and harder who rely on playerbase getting more skilled are competitive games that have been out for years and have problems getting new players (LoL, Dota easy examples) idk if deeprock really retains such a huge veteran playerbase or if the playerbase is mostly new players buying the game

[grim hull]

not me, i ran solo, dunno if that makes a difference in spawns

the EDD is honestly not bad, ran as hurricane + hellfire gunner with a time of 40 minutes,
All the objectives were super close to one another this time around, in stage 1 my drop pod literally crashed through two aquarks and 35 morkite
In stage 2 three of the eggs are all in a single tiny room, black box isnt far either
dreadnaughts and mules are literally right next to each other in the final stage so i had a constant supply of nitra for each fight

this is a great week to go for the under 45 minutes achievement

[past drum]

it does

[spark bridge]

zamn. Just did both deep dives today. What do i do for the rest of the week

the last stages were fun. on normal you have an elimination with haunted cave and on elite an elimination with shield disruption

[minor bloom]

Try to go for faster times in both dives

[violet mauve]

Shield Disruption

[lofty parrot]

edd was fine expect for s3. nitra was a bit stingy until s3 too

[lavish dirge]

WHAT THE HECK is with these deep dives

always a dreadnought somewhere

[jolly hazel]

statistically common due to limited secondary mission types

[lofty parrot]

DD was really simple as well. No horror on s3 for some reason

[thorn jewel]

so the meta of xp farming is just ignore all the actual gold and resources and don't revive teammates on high haz, right?

cus speeding through primary objectives is faster?

(I'm asking because I and one other dwarf were left behind with a fuckton of resources on us)

because the other two sat in the drop pod the whole time

[vale barn]

https://youtu.be/xfJAr-0wXb0

[crude needle]

I just beat the entire EDD. My eyes hurt, I went down a number of times, and I was chased by a bulk in the tunnels I had dug myself.

Riku of you are here let it be known that I love you for clutching every second of it

[worn bramble]

if you're talking about DD/EDD, then they're really terrible for xp farming for the time investment. in the event of being left behind, sometimes it's worth finishing the mission than to have every dwarf come home

[sonic palm]

Managed to do the EDD today on the first try.

[thorn jewel]

wasn't talking about DD/EDD in that rant

[sonic palm]

[thorn jewel]

The two people that were downed, isn't that xp as well?

[sonic palm]

I'm surprised with myself and randoms.

[thorn jewel]

not counting the resources and whatnot we had

[fossil tulip]

Mission completion > risking fail to get res

[thorn jewel]

It wasn't explicitly spicy when we went down, nor did they really help us get to the drop pod

no pings at driller tunnel entrance, and scout did scout shit

just kind of annoyed

seems like a waste when they could have just been more of a team player

[fossil tulip]

It is what it is

[echo storm]

that edd was pretty easy

[humble sparrow]

Found out on EDD Stage 3 that Bulk Dets can break Dreadnought eggs.

[jolly hazel]

spitballers can too I think

[boreal ginkgo]

What are the deep dive stages for the normal deep dive?

[hasty hamlet]

check the pinned messages

[boreal ginkgo]

Ok

[thick jetty]

oh god edd stage 3 looks tough

[jolly hazel]

its not

cave is really nice

[echo storm]

u get a really nice arena to fight in

so it's pretty easy

same thing for the dd

giant area to bait horror

[glossy walrus]

why are you ranting about non deep dives in the deep dive channel

you don't get any extra xp for more dwarves alive at the end anyway, it's just gold

especially for potentially hour+ missions it's very reasonable to take the win rather than risk dying to not leave some dwarves behind

[sly sky]

I did my first ever solo deep dive, can I get a rock and stone

[quasi cove]

ROCK AND STONE

[grim tundra]

Damn, now I wanna do a solo dd, be right back

[sly sky]

Good luck fellow miner

[thorn jewel]

Because I was once told if I had serious questions, don’t ask #drg-chat

Ask here or the union channel

[grim tundra]

Alright, done. A bit too easy but should have expected that at lvl 200

[hasty orchid]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cvRHDfmBKK8Ggmoga6A3PrlyBaunZpbQhZuy987gGKk/edit#gid=672452639

[vapid turtle]

Man they really need to up these EDD or create a harder one all together this past month has been boring as hell always done in under an hour with randoms

[blazing current]

Next we will have doretta + mini mules with shield disruption in hollow bough

[fossil tulip]

We almost had that a couple weeks ago

Wasn't hollow bough

[echo storm]

lethal enemies, point extraction on fungus bogs with poor map generation is always a good one

[hollow citrus]

floor is covered in either fart shrooms or goo

[echo storm]

yeah the fungus bogs one i mentioned also had a 6 egg, 150 morkite stage 1 with shield disruption and limited nitra

[marsh quest]

Can someone help me with the elite dive

[old widget]

#lfg for your platform, host a game and ask for help, you'll likely get it

[jolly hazel]

PE is my favorite,in and out

unless dread secondary then its the worst

[echo storm]

pe dread secondary third stage for neuron activation

especially with garbage terrain

[jolly hazel]

don't forget shield disruption

or low oxy

[echo storm]

ah yes i remember a glacial strata edd with 2 refinery missions
one of which was low oxy with a dread secondary

[granite mantle]

Did anyone else get a metric fuckton of bulks on the last EDD stage this week, or was that just my crew getting unlucky?

[jolly hazel]

I remember that one, it was low oxy PE with hiveguard secondary in a huge vertical pit

[jolly hazel]

unlucky

the less you rock and stone, the more likely a bulk will show up

[ornate badger]

Does uncovering aquarks cause swarms like eggs

In PE

I dont think it does but

[glossy walrus]

dunno who told you that, but asking non dd stuff in the dd channel is a good way to make people think you're talking about dd stuff, so best of luck

[burnt sandal]

it doesn't

[ornate badger]

Cheers

[hoary cove]

No but passive swarms increase in frequency the longer you stay in a point extraction

[burnt sandal]

in size*

[ember otter]

If your edd's take longer than an hour you got a problem

I play almost exclusively with randos and even on horrible dd's I'v never gotten close to 1hr.

[unkempt lantern]

Can we have an EDD without shield disruption plz

[fading ruin]

How are the deep dives

[jolly hazel]

deep

[fading ruin]

HILARIOUS

But seriously how good/bad are the deep dives this week

[ornate badger]

normal is easy

doing edd now

1st stage not to obad

[final agate]

I'm watching a video of someone doing it solo

So far, it looks decent

[jolly hazel]

you'd see people non-stop bitching if it was hard this week

so if there is no complaining every 30 minutes, assume its easy

[ornate badger]

yea pretty much

looks like another 50min for the avg joe team

[torn verge]

the last stage of the EDD is the only notably hard one

shield disruption plus rollybugs can cause bad times

[ornate badger]

rollybugs are so annoying

[jolly hazel]

yeah only bugs unaffected by freezing lmao

frozen solid but still heatseeking missiles

[ornate badger]

edd done in 40min not bad

[pseudo spade]

Damn, just looking at the pinned post, I think I'm staying away from the DDs this week. Solo play does not agree with either of these.

[jolly hazel]

🤨

many people have completed both solo

also zero escort missions

[ember otter]

DDs ezpz this time

[wraith flare]

tried to solo the dd, last level was a nightmare, killed one dreadnaught but the second one got me, because i eventually got tired of zipping around and got greedy

[wraith shard]

yo fellas, this week's EDD is so easy its "bring your greenbeard friends EDD week"

[severe tusk]

Stage 2 of the EDD kind of sucks because it's so claustrophobic if a Driller doesn't terraform to make room or if the Scout doesn't pull the eggs while others wait in the spawn room.

[ornate badger]

Yea that room was pretty shit

We just scraped through

[scarlet oar]

I hate elimination + haunted cave

because the horror keeps blocking all of my shots

[deft holly]

Man the dd this week

That last phase

Really annoying to fight twins with the ghost lmao

[echo storm]

the arena u are given to fight the twins with the ghost makes it pretty easy

[wheat furnace]

I did this week's dd

The rewards are not worth it lol

[fading ruin]

K thx

[jolly hazel]

its 1/3 of the overclocks you can get per week, why isn't it worth it?

[wheat furnace]

I got 1 level, 10k creds (which I didn't need) and 20 enor pearl, from 1 hour of effort

maybe this is more of an overclock issue rather than a deep dive issue

[jolly hazel]

you got 20 enor pearl?

those dont spawn in deep dives, unless there's a hoarder and you would have gotten other resources too

[wheat furnace]

yeah there was a hoarder

Didnt get it unfortunately

[queen patrol]

edd is easy peasy

[jolly hazel]

anyways, deep dives are not for xp, they are for overclocks

[queen patrol]

oh my image didnt send

well theres 2 bulk dets

[wheat furnace]

So you only really do deep dives after you finish all your contracts?

[jolly hazel]

they reset every week, so its a weekly thing

there is no set time/circumstance to do them

just a little extra challenge for each week

[wheat furnace]

Overclocks just seem so extremely RNG that there is no point in chasing a particular one

[jolly hazel]

you can select a choice of 3 class/weapon or cosmetic overclock with machine events in normal missions

[queen patrol]

andd the bulks destroyed a swarm egg

[jolly hazel]

you'll get em a lot quicker than you think

I got all weapon oc's by 4 months in

4 or 5

[potent vector]

until you play this game for 400+ hours and suddenly have all of em

[sly vapor]

much better than just choosing the op ones

[dusk jetty]

what do i do if hive guard doesn’t want to call his kids?

[deft holly]

Get a court summons

[copper geyser]

what are the missions for this week's dives?

[vernal kayak]

Check the pinned message

[severe tusk]

Sometimes Hiveguard's Sentinels spawn outside of the room you are fighting in and slowly dig toward you. Very rarely spawns won't happen at all, but you can get within melee range of the Hiveguard to let it bite you, which seems to fix the problem. I have 1,400 hours played and have only experienced this like 2-3 times.

[wanton knot]

the fucking enemy placement in the edd baited both me and my friend to pop both dreads without realizing

i tried to coilgun the breeder and popped an egg, and my friend tried to laser a warden i pinged and popped it

hilarious stage 3

[severe tusk]

Yeah, that can happen with those weapons sometimes.

[wraith shard]

i fucked up my team's edd stage 3 run by accidentally popping the dread egg after going near the 2 mini mules 💀

[cerulean lichen]

You need to be buried till the neck and be fed to ants for that

But im proud of you

[wanton knot]

those egg placements were straight up trolling

like the spitballer and the breeder in that one room were perfectly lined up with the damn egg lmfao

and then there was a warden right on top of the damn other egg, which was hard to see because salt pits red

at least i finally got all of my weapon OCs

[severe tusk]

Now let the cosmetic core grind begin!

[jolly hazel]

ya this shit takes forever lol

not to mention weapon skins

[echo storm]

yeah i been doin the bare minimum and i got 24 blank cores already

[ember otter]

Feels like every other hiveguard fight to me

[copper cedar]

Is the dd not updated?

[pale sigil]

It is

Updates every thursday

[copper cedar]

Yeah but the dd in the pin is different. Wondering which is old

[copper cedar]

It ended up being a double drilldozer mission, and we had no engineer. Just me and single promoted lvl 30> dwarfs. I mean we got it, but it was so stressful when they kept calling supplys when they are full ammo but half hp.

[fresh turtle]

hmm this weeks EDD is like a DD compared to some of last weeks

Cleared it first try almost no problem compared to the many many failed attempts from the past few

[unique ore]

I actually had the exact opposite experience. the twins just crushed us for 2 attempts, while the previous weeks were easy

[ebon anchor]

what, the double dozer mission was last week

[sick lake]

This weeks DD is very dreadnought-heavy. Partner gonna be running driller with ad clear. Im gonna run engie with hyper prop, double sentry with stun, and probably warthog with the tightened spread OC. Still not certain how i want this gun to operate lol

[teal isle]

Is there any reward difference between edds and dds

[knotty frost]

Quality wise no. Both have the same rewards for each stage. 1st being blank core, 2nd being weapon OC, 3rd being cosmetic.

[teal isle]

Ah oke so just some more xp and perhaps gold?

[potent vector]

you can only get cores once from each set of DD

so 3 cores from DD and 3 cores from EDD totalling 6

[copper cedar]

I just played it, and it was double dozer? First and last stages. With a few eggs to collect too

Wtf, just checked last weeks dd, and it was the one I did last night. Thats so odd.

[violet mauve]

Maybe your game did not update properly?

[copper cedar]

Dunno, but there was 3 other people joined me and did the same mission. If it didn't update properly I would've assumed I would've been forced to play it solo

[marble veldt]

For those interested, @brittle hound and I are tackling this week EDD, and I'm streaming it
You can find my twitch channel on my profile (scroll down a bit)

[green crown]

thought i might do another edd, looked at pins and thought no ill wait for next week.
(dreadnaught+sheild disruption 3rd stage)

[jolly hazel]

its really not that bad

[fresh turtle]

yeah by stage 3 if you did even decent on the other 2 stages you end up with like 8 resupplies to deal with everything

[ancient goblet]

replaying a deep dive doesn't give you cores right?

[fresh turtle]

no, you can only get each stages reward once

[ancient goblet]

okay, assumed so

[fresh turtle]

but the DD and the EDD have separate rewards

[ancient goblet]

yeah I just gotta do the EDD now

how reliable is solo queuing

like am I gonna get people who team kill me for no reason or are they usually cool (I have had bad experiences from games like DBD lmao)

[fresh turtle]

the quality of the actual players is sometimes lacking but everyone ive encountered in DD queues is, at the very least, actively trying to complete it

[jolly hazel]

not really

everyone is usually in the same page

but skill level can definetly vary

[forest temple]

This community is about the least toxic out of any I've seen in 30+ years of gaming. Don't sweat it

[green crown]

i actually ended up trying it because i got an above average team with a lvl30,60, and 120 (im around 135)
we got through the first stage with all three other players down and me leaving in the drop pod
second stage we just got continuously mauled by exploders, also wrecking the landscape

should i try again tomorrow with randoms?

[hollow citrus]

in DDs I sometimes see people slacking for some reason, like scouts or gunners just running around not killing mobs or collecting objectives

[jolly hazel]

yeah or you can look for a group here in #lfg-steam if you are worried about communication

generally if you are not confident in your teammates ability, you will want to play a carry class with lots of aoe like engie or gunner

[wraith robin]

anyone feel like the DD is more difficult than the edd?

I found the edd pretty easy, it was mostly a matter of positioning

[fresh turtle]

Because the regular DD doesnt even get up to haz 4 and it also usually just has more inexperienced players in it

[copper cedar]

Lmao. Dbd is one of the worst communities out there. On the other hand, this is by far the best. There is little to no toxicity at all. Take it from someone who has 5000+ hrs in dbd and 500+ in drg, drg is more positive, friendly, and just better overall

[violet mauve]

We did DD just earlier today and it wasn't that bad. Even the 3rd stage with Haunted Cave mutator was simple enough.

Though I did get a small scare when both twins and the Horror homed in on me.

[dusky beacon]

Yeah i had most issues with stage 2, but me and 2 friends finally managed to do stage 3 first try, so definitely possible

[violet mauve]

So we decided that the combatters tackle the twins while I keep the Horror distracted. It worked very well.

[wraith robin]

i don't know what i'm smoking but i wanna retract my statement immediately

[dusky beacon]

heh

[wraith robin]

stage 2 is pretty bad if your team doesn't position right, and stage 3 with shield disruption can kill ya if you forget about it fighting the arbalest and a meteor you're in range of explodes

[dusky beacon]

quite a jump from 3.5 to 5.5 isnt it

[wraith robin]

yeah i mean dd is kind of a brain-off

always has been

[dusky beacon]

Yeah h3

[wraith robin]

i think it's because i played different classes

[violet mauve]

Well I am glad DD doesn't reach haz4.

[dusky beacon]

I would like it to, actually

[violet mauve]

That's when the game stops being "challenging fun" tier to me and gets into "annoyance" tier.

I don't play games to get annoyed.

[dusky beacon]

Probably dont go in drg expecting only fun

[violet mauve]

I don't, no.

But I want more fun than annoyance.

Haz3.5 is actually perfect for me, difficulty-wise.

[dusky beacon]

I guess the thing with games is you eventually "skill up" so easier difficulty feels too easy

[violet mauve]

Probably. I used to not do haz3 for point extraction, for example. But I got used to that by now.

[dusky beacon]

H3 also felt difficult for me, now i mostly play h4

If i get mad or dont feel well i do play h3

[wraith shard]

It's only a matter of time until u guys casually play haz5

[violet mauve]

Me? Never.

One of my friends does though.

[dusky beacon]

it will eventually happen if you want it to i guess

[violet mauve]

Everyone else in our little circle thinks she's a bit of a masochist for it.^^'

[wraith shard]

If u play haz4 casually now, needless to say, you'll eventually choose the path to perpetual torment play haz5 casually

[dusky beacon]

And in a few months or maybe a year that opinion will change

[violet mauve]

That said I can play on haz5.

And I do play EDDs as well.

Though none of the ones we've done so far managed to win stage 3. So there.

[dusky beacon]

H5 is sometimes brutal with no way of winning and sometimes easy, speaking from around a dozen games with friends and edd

[wraith shard]

I say taking sweeth tooth just for this week's EDD stage 3 will save u

[violet mauve]

That's actually sensible advice.

[dusky beacon]

And iw

[violet mauve]

SD caves do have excess red sugar.

[violet mauve]

Yeah, IW is indespensible to me.

[dusky beacon]

Also try to use gunner's ziplines to avoid arbalests meteor thing

[violet mauve]

I have it on literally every build.

[dusky beacon]

It helped me a lot

[violet mauve]

Can confirm. It seems like the meteors actually can't do damage while in flight.

Or at least they never hit me?

[dusky beacon]

Twins felt like a breeze for me

Maybe because i was the scout

[violet mauve]

I like twins, but hate hiveguard.

At least hiveguard is slooow.

[dusky beacon]

2nd one is normal dread

[violet mauve]

Regular dread is okay.

[rustic comet]

Got the elite done first try before regular FeelsGoodMan

[slow tiger]

bro the edd is so hard

[dusky beacon]

Which stage

[slow tiger]

2

[dusky beacon]

Yeah

It was about pacing for me

[slow tiger]

the bulks for me

[dusky beacon]

Team comp?

[slow tiger]

1 each

[dusky beacon]

Hm

The bulks shouldnt be bad then

[slow tiger]

not so much killing them, j the havoc

[slow tiger]

finally got it

[paper oasis]

huh, i thought the EDD wasn't too bad. we were running Stubby-Engi and Big bertha-autocannon gunner

we slapped the twins by just bursting them with leadspray-brt and return to sender breachcutter before they could heal

[slow tiger]

i had the same gunner build

last boss was slow cause i had to kite forever while we rescued driller

[paper oasis]

well to be fair, i run these weekly with my brother, and at this point we almost think the same, so we have good teamwork

[slow tiger]

me n my duo only have like 130hrs each

[green crown]

my carry classes are gunner and scout lol

[slow tiger]

gunner/driller for me

[copper cedar]

If a dd or edd starts with 4 and someone dcs, does the difficulty and spawn count change accordingly?

[stoic summit]

p sure yes

[odd comet]

Lol no. I'm closing in on three years of DRG and I still don't like hazard 5 and think the people who regularly play it are weird.

[stoic summit]

everybody has their own pace of playing the game

although I can't imagine there being too many people out there playing Haz 1

[copper cedar]

Haz 5 is fun if you want a challange. But if you don't want to be under too much pressure, haz 4 is almost as good as haz 5 imo

[wraith shard]

[odd comet]

People are entitled to their own feelings and not everyone wants to play on the hardest difficulty just for hardest difficulty's sake.

Can I play hazard 5 and reliably win it? Yes.
Do I enjoy playing hazard 5? No.

So I don't.

[wraith shard]

That's nice and all and yes people don't want to play on the hardest difficulty which is understandable, but average haz5 enjoyers aren't weirdos though

[blazing current]

Average haz6 enjoyers are

[tacit jungle]

haz5 isn't very hard and the only time it's fun is when cavegen and spawn table are actively out to wreck you

[pastel remnant]

…..but there’s no such thing as an average haz 5 enjoyer. You either enjoy it or you don’t. There’s no average to be found.

[tacit jungle]

some people hate it and play it anyway and we call them enjoyers as a joke

[tacit jungle]

man pub EDDs are so variable, just got speedrun carried in 35:52

[wraith shard]

Haz8 enjoyers' face when it's not just glyphid bugs that are out there to kill them anymore, but the bugs from Hallownest are now part of the enemy spawn pool.

[calm jetty]

Smells like skill issue in here

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[potent vector]

iirc enemies that haven’t spawned yet will have their stats adjusted unless they don’t have player count scaling. but for enemies that already spawn in, I think they don’t dynamically get weaker.

[copper cedar]

Is there not a spawner count? Or is the number of enemies that spawn in fixed?

[deft holly]

man this week's edd is fun

two aquarqs for free on spawning

phase 2's kinda chill too except for my first playthrough where the bulk spawned in a tunnel and fucked me over

I accidentally popped twins with blowthrough while fighting a bulk and managed to get em both because of a choke point

[potent vector]

game uses a point system I think. for every swarm, it gets a number of points to spend. bigger, harder enemies take up more points.

[dusky beacon]

this week's dd is a very decent candidate for the 45m achievement btw

[copper cedar]

Ahh, ok. Didn't know that, thank you

[hollow citrus]

this week's EDD was pretty chill

apart from a surprise bulk during the dread fight on stage 3, but we used it to blow the dread up too

[copper cedar]

Thats pretty good thinking

Our bulk spawned just before we popped the egg, caught us completely off guard. Mid swarm. Just a lot of things happening at the same time to make things very tricky

[jolly hazel]

to add to this, the total amount of points swarms are allotted is chosen semi-randomly when the mission is generated (with higher numbers being less likely). this is why some missions can feel like cakewalk versus absolute meat grinders.

[weary blaze]

I never knew it was a point system, it makes sense though

[jolly hazel]

yeah lots of stuff going on behind the scenes during level gen beyond cave layout

keeps things interesting

[hollow citrus]

I also think the list of enemies is chosen during cave gen, so for things like DDs with fixed seeds, if someone reports a bulk during a particular stage there's a good chance you'll get one too

[potent vector]

DD only has fixed cave gens, not spawn pools I think

[jolly hazel]

I am not 100% sure on that because a bulk could just not spawn for an entire edd if the rng doesn't happen