babelfish-lounge

[digital dawn]

February 2020, a friend was taking a German course, and I joked with him a bit about it, having taken a year of German when I was in high school. I was all "Yeahh, languages are pretty silly sometimes" and in passing, he said "We should all just learn to speak Esperanto" and I went "what."

I looked it up and it looked too good to be true. Reminded me of how I felt about Newspeak when reading 1984. Yeah, Newspeak was used as a tool for oppression, but I couldn't even believe that a language could just be "created", y'know? I thought wow, wouldn't that be wild. Fun fact: George Orwell had an Esperantist roommate for a time which seemingly influenced his depiction of Newspeak

[mellow topaz]

That one I didn't even know, cool!

I wonder how many games on Steam have Esperanto translations.

[digital dawn]

Not terribly many, I'm sure 😂 A fellow admin in the Esperanto Discord is responsible for translating Baba Is You and VVVVVV. Another community member kept up an unofficial translation for Among Us until an update broke the process. Those are the only ones off the top of my head though

[mellow topaz]

until an update broke the process.
RIP

[sage tangle]

WDYM german is silly? German is a hard language because it is a logical one

[digital dawn]

We say the same thing 😂

If I were to learn a natural language, it would still be German I'm sure. It makes a lot more sense than most native English-speakers realize, because they often forget that English is a Germanic language too. But.... those articles, wuh

[sage tangle]

Switch DRG to German then, help translate 😛

You can learn the articles while doing so

[slim verge]

Welcome among the translation crew @digital dawn, good luck

[foggy steppe]

Baba is you is significantly smaller game to translate than DRG, don't get burnt out!

[proven gale]

Now I won't be that much surprised if someone waltzes in asking for Klingon.

By the way, we're translating Satisfactory into Pirate and it's hilarious at times. Guys are keeping it sort of historically true, not using stuff that wasn't invented before some arbitrary date, which makes it even more hilarious though harder to translate.

Might be fun to do that for DRG, especially since there are lots of shouts. Though hearing them actually speak Pirate would be priceless.

[sage tangle]

If this wasn't clear already:
Every one of you is nuts and you should feel nuts.

[digital dawn]

Getting started on the Glossary, though I won't get very far before I go out of town for the weekend. Three words in, appears "Dystrum". The straightforward way to Esperantize this is "Distrumo". Amuzingly though, "distr-" is already a root for "distract", and "-um[o]" is an open-ended suffix for something that relates to the root word in some way. So "Dystrum" practically becomes... "Distraction" 😂

[chilly orbit]

I dunno if you should translate minerals, as it's some kind of scientific name for ores
But that short story is funny tho :smile:

[digital dawn]

There are a small handful of things that probably shouldn't be translated no matter what, maybe "XP" for example, but even scientific terms are usually reworked into Esperanto orthography

These are less "translated" and more "transliterated", it just so happens that the transliteration this time makes a productive word, on accident 😄

[sage tangle]

You could
Keep it as is
Add 'ore' to it in all strings, dystrum-ore

Write it in a different way which sounds close enough to not mix it in your language

Keep in mind language / voicelines still stay the same

Though dystrum ist the least used resource in the game.
Only secondary objective and only in PE and refinery missions. Sometimes. Plus on the KPI terminal

[mellow topaz]

one of our translators had an idea for translating apoca blooms

because we already didn't transliterate boolo caps (instead it was translated to "cave cap/cave mushroom" in a roundabout way"), their suggestion for apoca blooms was "turmiolilja"

which basically means "lily of ruin", but it's a lot better and less sinister sounding in Finnish

Thanks @vast raven for that suggestion, I just haven't added it in the translation yet for some reason

[eager kayak]

hey all ; just dropping to say I have made a couple entries for French and Greek earlier today and i reckon I'll bring some more on the table soon enough
regarding the latter language ; I doubt I'll be able to solo all of the logs lmao

[vast raven]

Just gotta decide if it should be "Turmiolilja" or Turmionlilja"

[mellow topaz]

"turmiolilja" rolls off the tongue easier

[mellow topaz]

if it's patch notes you're worrying about, don't be

they're very much down the priority list

[eager kayak]

yeah im going game text first of all

[slim verge]

If you any question regarding the french translation, you can ask me btw.

[mellow topaz]

also, french and greek?

[eager kayak]

what can i say
ive lived in some places :^)

[mellow topaz]

certainly

multilingualism is never a bad thing

[eager kayak]

i went thru the logs and i dont have that many questions but i do notice like a lot of the names are more or less literal translations
like it makes sense but some dont really roll off the tongue if that makes sense

[slim verge]

We try to keep the intention as much as we can, hence why we get literal

Btw, the french language have different rules than english for capital letter. We don't actually keep those in middle of sentences :p

[eager kayak]

always thought it worked as just an emphasis thing
the more you know

[slim verge]

Also, you did some translation out of context. "Mactera spawn" is a creature, spawn meaning (in that context) young or youngling or new born. We decide to not roll with that idea though since we had no idea (at the times) on where to really get from that. (we don't always get literal 😛 )

To avoid that, you can check the context of the string

[mellow topaz]

I went with "kuhnurimakteera", which basically means "Mactera drone"

as in, drone bee

[eager kayak]

dont reckon i did anything with the mactera spawn but i did name the brood nexus literally spawner
i think

oh i did

you reckon we use spawn as in 'creature'?

[slim verge]

Yes

In two context at least

[eager kayak]

to thesaurus with me

[slim verge]

https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Glyphid_Spawn

https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Mactera_Spawn

those are the two variation of "spawn" for creatures

[eager kayak]

hmm maybe for the glyphid we could go like 'newborn' or 'created'?

[slim verge]

we already have a translation for those that we've been using for a long time

At this point the community is used to it

[mellow topaz]

trying to translate words like "gniffer" or "brundle" are infuriating

[eager kayak]

mactera spawn = fraye mactera (????)

[slim verge]

gniffer is untranslatable. You have to go with a created one.

[eager kayak]

brundle we could use bourdon or just char

[mellow topaz]

"gniffer" I translated to another nonsense word, and "brundle" I just translated to what it looks like

[slim verge]

Bourdon is in use for Brundle

[mellow topaz]

which is a fucking rock

[slim verge]

We have a pretty large translation team 😄

[eager kayak]

man i try to catch up

[slim verge]

We're not up to speed because I've been lazy lol

[eager kayak]

whats missing rn i could get to it

[mellow topaz]

you should play the game with the FR translation enabled

[slim verge]

I'm in charge of correction and approval mostly

[mellow topaz]

then just pop into crowdin for whatever strings are missing or what you find a bit iffy

[eager kayak]

ay makes sense

[slim verge]

you can also use the debug language. You can turn it on in the options and if you do ctrl + q, you can see the number of the string you're looking for

so you can just use that number to find it on crowdin

[eager kayak]

it is wildly unfunny but i cracked up with 'tri-dent mactera'

[slim verge]

😄

[eager kayak]

tri-machoire would be more correct but it sounds a bit nonsense

[slim verge]

yeah

that's why we went with the playword instead

[digital dawn]

I've got another good one. Came across "Greenbeard" in the glossary, which, laŭ the context, is based on "greenhorn". I've never heard of a "greenhorn" before but it's used to refer to beginners, the inexperienced, etc. I could easily just translate it literally as "beginner" or such, but I was curious and consulted my EN<->EO dictionary. The thing is, green is something of a "sacred" color in Esperanto. Something "green" would be very adept, very experienced! So apparently an author coined the term "flavbekulo" -- "yellowbeak" 😂 Perhaps that's just a coincidence? Does a similar term exist in another language for yellow? Amusing either way

[slim verge]

(I wish the game had a mushroom line that's a reference to diablo 1, am I the only one on this btw ?)

[sage tangle]

Somebody is 'still green behind the ears' (Noch grün hinter den Ohren) if he is really young and or inexperienced

[slim verge]

In French, it's the "blue" color that goes for inexperience somehow 😄

[eager kayak]

i learn new things every day

(tbf ive only been in france for like 5 years)

[slim verge]

It's fine lol

[digital dawn]

This is so fascinating hahaha

[eager kayak]

qnyway petition for GSG to allow us to enter their studios and but their game

ill get my bus license i can get people from toulouse to copenhagen

[slim verge]

I'm going to be honest btw : It's not that I don't want you to help @eager kayak (I really don't, more help is always welcome) but we already have so many people working on the french translation that most of them don't do that much already because we're just that many. So if you prefer to care for greek only (as it could use some help), we'll be fine ^^

[sage tangle]

We could gang up and threaten Jacob for his lunch money, for all the darn plays on words he puts in the game

[slim verge]

lmao

"angry translators swarm the studio of GSG, menacing to take their lunch money"

[sage tangle]

'Jacob, we're furious! Leave your dad jokes out of the game'

• 'Hello Furious, I'm Jacob!'

[eager kayak]

smh being called dead weight (i getchu though lmao)
for greek i reckon i can do it in a couple days but is there even anyone to greenlight it

[sage tangle]

translations are automatically put into the game

[slim verge]

you can check the pinned message for the list of translators for each language btw

so you can coordinate with people

[eager kayak]

yeah i saw greece got none

[slim verge]

indeed

[eager kayak]

mfw lone bastion

[sage tangle]

Hebrew is also stuck at 1%

[eager kayak]

wish there was somewhere that had like players per country

[slim verge]

Well, it's always like that when starting.

When it gets better, people start to come helping

[sage tangle]

So is viatnemes (16%) and arabic just got one guy joining a week ago

[eager kayak]

odd thing is it has a lot of work put into it but then it kinda stopped

[slim verge]

When I joined, there was 1 person who was regularly working on the translation that was not making google-trad level of translation

[eager kayak]

government took our rocks and stones cant have shit

im surprised by how many french people play deep rock ngl

[slim verge]

we quickly had two-three more people joining up one month after that

Yeah the french community seems to be pretty big somehow

[eager kayak]

what is even more weird is that i literally never heard of the game until like a year ago
somehow confused it with gothic armada

[slim verge]

lol

[eager kayak]

how did you get around naming the detonator in your respective languages

cause i cant see any other way besides the literal translation

[slim verge]

Literal translation for us

[eager kayak]

axchually the detonator is the one being detonated

cave crawlers being translated to 'cave lickers' i aint correcting that its hilarious

[slim verge]

wut ? 🤣

[eager kayak]

i kid you not

some of these are gold

[slim verge]

lol

[sage tangle]

if there is one true cliche about french, is that they rather skip the best game of the year instead of playing it on anything other than French.

[slim verge]

yeah I can confirm this is very true

[sage tangle]

(this is also true about some Germans)

[slim verge]

the french population is very uneducated when it comes to other languages, mostly because we have shit programs for that in school that literally turns you off from wanting to learn another language

literally every person I know that talk other languages learned it from literally NOT school.

[sage tangle]

Empires don't learn different languages, they just enforce theirs.

[eager kayak]

literally this

[slim verge]

Empires are ded

[sage tangle]

Time to harden your baguettes again then

[slim verge]

time to live in the present now

[eager kayak]

from a young age everything is dubbed so why learn anything other than french

[digital dawn]

Shout-out to Sir Swag on YouTube for giving this game a glowing recommendation to me. It didn't make me check it out, but when I had friends two weeks ago beg me to get this game, I knew it would be worth it

[sage tangle]

Yes, leave present now Embrace tradition

[eager kayak]

Literally bought the game after i finished the sirswag video

[sage tangle]

Nice edit

Whom?

[slim verge]

Yeah it was a correction before you ever made the comment

you're just slow Fakiyo

[digital dawn]

I already have 105 hours and I bought DRG May 4th, two weeks ago 😭

[eager kayak]

the only trust worthy news source and game recommendation expert

[slim verge]

good

Guess I'll check out the Sir Swag vid at the some point. Interesting to know how you heard about the game though.

[digital dawn]

https://youtu.be/_hNENhbPG54

[slim verge]

And you @sage tangle, when did you hear about the game and how ?

[sage tangle]

Ehhhm

I remember seeing early early access / beta videos of it ant lit. thinking 'God another moronic shitty minecraft mine survive crap game'

And something about all games jumping that bandwagon

[eager kayak]

the videogame checks every off for me how did i never see it before smh steam

shame most popular reviewers only played it in a very early phase

[digital dawn]

I somehow got my father excited about Deep Rock Galactic. That is no easy feat.

[sage tangle]

I actually have no idea how I then got it, but it was 4 days before Xmas, I played Killing Floor 2 each day for a year and got a tad tired from it and looked for another coop thing. I think it must have shown on steam recommendation or smth. And I NEVER ever bought early access before. Was against my personal conviction. But something swayed me to try it out. 'Bored of everything I have, I can give it back after 2 hours'

I think I played like 8 hours straight

[eager kayak]

same first week i was playing sunrise to sundown i didnt know what hit me

[slim verge]

Nice love story 😄

[digital dawn]

I've never regretted an Early Access purchase, you just have to be selective. But in this case I didn't know about DRG until after it full-released

[eager kayak]

right before update 32 too

[sage tangle]

DRG is my first early access buy.

Satisfactory is my second

[slim verge]

I don't think I've ever regretted any EA game I bought so I guess I have luck or a good nose.

[eager kayak]

for me that was risk of rain 2 then satisfactory

[sage tangle]

I never knew DRG was an early access wonder-story. I thought how DRG did it was normal

[eager kayak]

ive played like a billion games sadly but at least i can sorta see when sth is a waste of time or not

that being said
500 hours in rocket league

[digital dawn]

Some of my favorite childhood games, published by EA, are now unplayable so they're not off the hook from me hahaha

[slim verge]

I meant early access by EA lol

[eager kayak]

reckon they meant EA as in early access

[sage tangle]

Oh right, I did buy RoR2 immediately when it hit early access, but because I fkn LOVE the first one and nobody played it. That was just a way to give them more money. (I actually don't like ror2 that much, I miss the old 2D style)

[digital dawn]

oh whoops loll

[slim verge]

RoR 1 was a fucking great game 😄

[eager kayak]

literally bought ror2 as soon as it got announced on that gearbox showcase thing

never heard of ror before

but it was the phase where i consumed every roguelike under the sun

[slim verge]

And it took me longer to get in love with RoR2 but it grew on me and I like it too, even though for different reasons.

[eager kayak]

once you get your first god run you never go back

[sage tangle]

Totally becoming offtopic but whatever
BEST song in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSnOWqTPUNQ&list=PLLDf8Bnp1K1Kkk3Kbepm9UamqHjMZlgsb&index=16

[slim verge]

Personally I went into DRG very early. Saw the promotional video in the E3 and kept my eyes on information (not closely enough though since I literally missed the alpha 😢 )
Bought it the first day it got published on steam.

[sage tangle]

Yeh you were all here when I started translating, I was intimidated

'Oh god, he's a proofreader, what a professional'

[eager kayak]

missed most early rewards but the content creator hat will be MINE

[sage tangle]

Now I know all proofreaders are just poor sods like me

[slim verge]

I joined the translation fairly late to be honest lol

[sage tangle]

[slim verge]

I joined back in september 2019, 2 years after the EA

right before the deep dive introduction

because I couldn't stand the state of the french translation

[sage tangle]

@shell vine brought me here, that ass 😄

[slim verge]

lol

[sage tangle]

same.

[slim verge]

I wanted to help and thought I would be turned off from helping somehow

[eager kayak]

how was it lmao

[slim verge]

what happened is exactly the contrary

🤣

[sage tangle]

'Hey fakiyo, did you see the game in german?'

• 'No, why? What about it OH GOD DAD PLEASE NO'

[eager kayak]

just google translate things?

[slim verge]

yeah

I made a good job and quickly became a proofreader, alongside the other person working with me

We fixed the whole thing in two weeks

we just did that for 15 days straight

[eager kayak]

how much effort would it be to make a backup of the current translated logs and replacing it all with google translate text for april fools

[slim verge]

too much effort for what it's worth

[eager kayak]

shame

[sage tangle]

covers in fear

[slim verge]

Anyway, good luck for the translation

I know how long it takes

[eager kayak]

and not even a thank you from SGS smh

[sage tangle]

you madman

[slim verge]

especially since they added stuff lol

[slim verge]

I mean, I got a lot of thank you

I'm in the credits page, I got a lot of thank you from the community as well 😄

[eager kayak]

plongée abyssale cant believe you got away with that

oh thats neat

[slim verge]

yeah

[eager kayak]

im sure the one greek player will be thankful

looking out for my bros

[sage tangle]

Credits need to be more prominent, they are really hidden away

[slim verge]

yeah

they are a bit hidden

[eager kayak]

new screen in hall of fame when

[slim verge]

yeah

I'd like something like the alpha tester (which screen is broken btw, maybe I should add that to Jira)

[sage tangle]

Yeh I already put my thoughts about that forward. The credits look like early access 😄

[eager kayak]

mfw trying to add greek to my autocorrect but it really doent want to
thats tomorrow me's problem

[slim verge]

Well good luck with greek

I should really go back to proofreading myself lol

[eager kayak]

(thats what the axis said)

what happens with the translated patch notes anyway

are those in game somewhere

[slim verge]

Patchnotes are still around I think ?

the most recent ones are in the game though

[eager kayak]

havent checked what happens if i change my steam client language

[slim verge]

the others are not revelant enough but you can still translate them if you want the 100% 🤣

[eager kayak]

translate any% speedrun

allgametext at 3%
i am going to die

[mellow topaz]

"Great Exploder Glyphid"

[eager kayak]

need to pull out my glyphid family tree for naming conventions smh

[mellow topaz]

The Crassus detonator was a lot harder to translate

At the end it was named "sampoglyfidi", where its name is borrowed from the Kalevala, a famous (and national) epic that's a collection of Finnish and Karelian folklore

[eager kayak]

i mean crassus is the name of an emperor so at most id say it can become something like 'crassus type detonator'

huh didnt think of that
could find some regional story relating to gold

[mellow topaz]

Where there is a legendary mill called the Sampo, which is able to churn out unlimited amounts of salt, flour and most importantly gold

Seeing as practically everyone in Finland knows the broad strokes of the Kalevala, I felt it was fitting

[eager kayak]

drilldozer is a headscratcher

got a name for drill got a name of bulldozer
but each word is lie a billion syllables

[digital dawn]

Off-topic but, I just built a new computer for the first time in my life, and wow

I didn't realize how stuttery DRG was before, it seemed perfectly fine to me, but now

[eager kayak]

how many times did you make a mess with thermal paste

i cry in 60°c cpu temp

[digital dawn]

None, shockingly enough. I wouldn't call that the "easy part" but I got it first try. So many other things took two or three tries though...

[eager kayak]

shoutout to the ssd that didnt fucking
like
snap

ive built like at least 6 PCs and im still as ape-like as day 1

[slim verge]

I wanted to build a PC too for the first time. Picked the worst time ever for that (the GPU crisis) so I ended up not doing that in the end

but it's a bit of a headache to do it successfully with no problems of compatibility.

[eager kayak]

crypto is skydiving right now so if theres any time to buy GPUs its now

[eager kayak]

id use the LDLC website building tool to check compatibility and then just buy the parts off of wherever else

shoutout to LDLC for scamming all of france with computer parts

[slim verge]

They'll keep on skydiving apparently but we're really flooding the channels with multiple topics now so I think we should go back to the intent of the channel 🤣

[mellow topaz]

Caddicarus' video made me convinced that I'm never gonna build a PC
There's way too much that can go wrong for almost no fault of your own

[eager kayak]

i am literally making a collage of words that could work for the drilldozer

[mellow topaz]

Oops, you slightly nicked a single pin on your brand new $400 CPU, time to buy a new one

[eager kayak]

what i got right now could be translated as the drillator

which is pretty cool

[sage tangle]

You had money for a new pc including a graphics card. This means you're clearly rich and can afford to buy a random stranger a graphics card too.
Hello, am complete stranger

[digital dawn]

Selling my previous 980ti 😄

I'm not going to lie the PC was very expensive, but I didn't actually have to buy the graphics card. My dad handed me down his spare 2080 which he bought before the GPU crisis. It was still expensive back then but at least you could buy it in stores. Lucked out hard on that one...

[sage tangle]

'spare 2080' rich kid confirmed.

[mellow topaz]

GTX 1060 gang

[sage tangle]

begone peasent

[mellow topaz]

No PC upgrades since 2017 other than a new SSD gang

[eager kayak]

shoutout to my new laptop that runs DRG great but needs the fans to run on MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE

[slim verge]

time to limit the FPS

[eager kayak]

if it goes anywhere under 60 i literally die

[slim verge]

If it can stick to 60, you're good

DRG is playable until you get under 30 tbh, which I experienced (sadly)

even then it's playable but it's not enjoyable

[eager kayak]

played at around 20 most of my life i am immune to frame drops

[digital dawn]

Dad is rich, Mom is just at the poverty line, I'm somewhere in between 😂

My dad is a programmer, so he spares absolutely no expense for his home computer lol. He's waiting to buy a 3090 but there's none in stock. He says he could pay a scalper but doesn't want to encourage them lmao

[limber yarrow]

My friend gave me his RX 580 after he bought himself an RTX 3060Ti

He bought it for 12k pesos last year before the pandemic started

Not it's worth 120k+ pesos here

Also he bought the RTX before the gpu crisis

[shell vine]

And I regret nothing !

Also welcome @eager kayak , and good luck, you'll need it.

[fast wolf]

Hello

Can i report some translation missing?

[slim verge]

sure, it's the best place to do it

[fast wolf]

The brazilian portuguese translation of this upgrade is missing

[slim verge]

Good catch but I suppose this is because only 11% of the portuguese translation is done. The translation is community made so it's generally made by people willing to sink free-time in it ^^

[fast wolf]

Wow

Only 11%???

This is the first thing i saw without translation

Nice

Thanks for the information

I really dont mind some stuff being in english

Good work

Thank you again

😉

[slim verge]

Yeah only 11%, but that includes literally everything, which also includes patchnotes, steam news and achievements (patch-notes being a HUGE part of that, even if 95% of them are not shown anymore)

[slim verge]

No problem

[dry cradle]

@fast wolf @slim verge that 11 percent is the European portuguese. My man is talking about the brazillian portuguese, those are two different dialects

I saw the Brazilian one is much more developed

Im not from that dialect, but I'll try to translate it, since the wording shouldn't be any different

[sage tangle]

Can't you just let your presidents / prime ministers meet up for a fair fist scuffle, who wins settles which Portugese is global Portugese?

Having two feels like too much Portugese

• fakiyo, world problem solver

[dry cradle]

Big brain

To be fair, I really don't know who would win

Portugal's president is kinda old now, and brazil's president looks like a chicken to me

Now pms

Idk who's the brazillian pm

Now a translation question

Where should the inertia string be? On the allgametext part, right?

[slim verge]

yeah

[sage tangle]

What string?

[dry cradle]

The search bar won't help

[dry cradle]

@sage tangle

[sage tangle]

Oh yes, general

[slim verge]

I suppose the devs might have forgot to put that one in crowdin since they basically made the mod on the go in one hotfix

[sage tangle]

allgametext

it's there and untranslated. Check your filters

(same for portugese portugese)

[slim verge]

welp that solved it

[dry cradle]

Weird, didn't appear to me

[sage tangle]

Filters > Advanced > reset filters

or set it to 'All, untranslated first'

[dry cradle]

Alright, thanks

Translated both

Now onto pt-pt

[half brook]

🇫🇷 You added a spelling error where there wasn't one before.
It's "Difficulté", not "Difficultée"

[sage tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/its-leviosa-not-leviosar-hermione-granger-emma-watson-harry-potter-gif-18243387

[sage tangle]

Seriously though, thank you for reporting 🙂

[mellow topaz]

do the RES_COLLECT strings appear in your inventory?

actually, there's multiple kinds

also I just noticed fakiyo giving context

never mind

[sage tangle]

I did? 😄

[mellow topaz]

in crowdin, yes

[sage tangle]

Ah looked it up ^^

[fast wolf]

Thats right! This is a common mistake hahahaha. Its true. Brazilian and European portuguese dont have much differences for our compreension and would be good to have the translation in European Portuguese at least. Thanks for the help 😉

[dry cradle]

Still working on that translation, but glad someone is waiting for it lmao

[fast wolf]

Take your time, friend

[dry cradle]

The funny thing is, some time ago it was on 16% and now it's back on 12% lmao

[sage tangle]

We got the steampages to translate, so the total amount of strings increased, thus pushing the total % translated down.

[dry cradle]

[slim verge]

thanks for reporting !

[rough crystal]

laughs in spanish dialects

[sage tangle]

We have German dialects, but they're not their own language (officially, though as foreigner you might think so)

Basically
German
Silly German
Stupid German

[native scaffold]

hey guys, i just got the game 2 days ago, but i played on the open beta, and i am rly enjoying it

nice to see the good work keeping up

but i would like to help transalale to my main language, is there any way i can help with?

i tried to react on the emojis but it didnt worked

[digital dawn]

Heya! Which language?

[native scaffold]

portuguese

portugal

not brasil

[native scaffold]

@digital dawnsoo how can i help?

[slim verge]

Hey @native scaffold, welcome there

[native scaffold]

hey @slim verge

[slim verge]

If you want to help with the translation, all you need to do is hop on crowdin and make an account there and start translating (link is in the pinned message) 🙂

[native scaffold]

already gave a look

since no one was answering

i did some sugestions for translation

already

[slim verge]

Nice 😄

[native scaffold]

but greenbeard i translated literaly

didnt knew what kind of word was agreed to be used

[slim verge]

I'm not really aware of who's working on which version of the european portuguese but I suppose you can still talk with @dry cradle if you want for this kind of question

And if you have questions in general or need some context for a string, you can ask here at anytime

[native scaffold]

sure

just hope to have it in portuguese

(and not just brasil one...)

i just hate to see games in brasil but not portuguese

[slim verge]

There are both versions available to my knowledge

[native scaffold]

ik

but...

brasil one is already in game

....

even tough we are the original portuguese

;-;

[mellow topaz]

How different is Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese anyway?

[gray arrow]

x

[dry cradle]

Mainly accent, and some wording, grammar and syntax

Not much overall

[native scaffold]

noticible

even worth than american english vs british english

not that we dont understund each other

but some words are diferent

[sage tangle]

Hi Pickle RIIIIICK! 😄
As Pounce said, @dry cradle is one of the (only one?) Portugese EU translators. So basically, it's quite important to agree on translations of recurring game specific words. ('Vocabulary' of the game, as seen in crowdin in the folder Glossar). BetC, Greenbeard, Beernames and so on.
But the translations you put on crowdin are automatically patched in, not approved beforehand.
At the moment, the game only offers the translations with a high % translated in the game. Smaller languages need to reach a certain amount, before they get implemented. (The game being fully released and all)

[dry cradle]

On crowdin there are a few more translators, like 3 or 4

[native scaffold]

yeah already talked to him, and also, what is the percentage for the translation to go for full game?

[dry cradle]

But idk if they are on discord

[native scaffold]

how many more to go?

[dry cradle]

A crap ton

14 ain't nearly 1% lmao

[native scaffold]

xd

oof

but how much % is needed?

brasil is at 77 and is on the game

and brasil on the game is what made me want to help translate

[sage tangle]

the total % amount is not as important as the % gametextfiles

because half of the %ages is patchnotes and steam store pages, they are not needed. Important is all ingame strings

[native scaffold]

ok

and what is Deep Rock Galactic's TM

[sage tangle]

there is no set / agreed upon amount. Soren just said they it should be a high % of ingame translations. (So if people buy the game and put their language active, it doesn't look half assed)

[native scaffold]

i see that name a lot

[sage tangle]

If you have all game file folder translated at 100%, the total amount of % is only 60%

My personal opinion, the folder 'Allgametext' should reach around 50-60% translated. (amounting for 30-35% total translated). This way one could make the option as it was in early access
Portugese - WIP
Though as said, this is for GSG / Soren to decide

[native scaffold]

oof

[sage tangle]

allgametext is the only thing you see in the game itself

[native scaffold]

18%

oof

thats a long way

[sage tangle]

is not as much as you think it is 🙂

[native scaffold]

most of it are one words

the problem is to go check the context

[sage tangle]

what helps is whenever you reach a word that repeats (like an enemy name, or beer etc), put it in the filter so you can have the same everywhere.

[sage tangle]

Did you check the stickies for the DRG Testing Language?

[native scaffold]

already did that

[native scaffold]

yeah

go on game debug mode

[sage tangle]

yeh 🙂 nice

[native scaffold]

the prob about that is when i see a word and have no idea where it is

[sage tangle]

Like?

[native scaffold]

hmm

let me see if i find it

this one

where the hell is mission name

[sage tangle]

All mission names are the ... Mission names. It's a random name Generator picking 200 words 'firstname' and 200 words from 'lastname'

If Portuguese has cases / gender for the names depending on adjective in front, I highly recommend skipping all strings called firstname or last name

[native scaffold]

portuguese has that but it also depends on the word

[native scaffold]

with some grind:

40 mins -> 0% advanced

[sage tangle]

Then I'd skip all strings including 'Firstname' and 'Lastname' including the string {firstname} {lastname}
%: are after words translated, so 100 single word strings make up as much as one 100 word string

[native scaffold]

i might have translated one or two first name

[sage tangle]

f.i. One Patchnote usually pushes the total % around 2-4%

yeh, doesn't matter

[native scaffold]

the translation is not wront, is just that with context the word can change

[sage tangle]

If you have any unclear strings or further questions, feel free to ask here anytime 🙂

also, below the translation part you can expand the OTHER LANGUAGES
Seeing there is already portugese, you can compare the solution of similar languages.

This is incredibly useful

Esp. seeing portugese is done quite a bit, or other similar languages.

[native scaffold]

just a curious question: if i help in good part of translation, would my help be recognised?

[sage tangle]

There is a reward system, I'll PM you in a minute or two

[native scaffold]

😮

just the fact game being in portuguese would be already enought for me

[native scaffold]

soo, "Stun most targets for an extended period of time"

does it means stun more targets

or stun same ammount of targets but for longer?

or is an added functionality to stun targets (wich the weapon didnt had) and for an extended period of time?

[sage tangle]

• targets
• longer
  from my understanding. What did others translate?

[native scaffold]

imagine seing this msg for the first time in this page:

xd

[native scaffold]

also, might have found some words very ez to translate:

[native scaffold]

there are many words very ez to do

[sage tangle]

you don't need to translate variables (for other languages).
If you keep {variable} the way it is (untranslated), it will stay untranslated and functioning

[native scaffold]

but they count for total words 😄

also, its as simple as copy paste

soo whats the trouble

but i will stick to portuguese then

[sage tangle]

This is not the way

[regal elk]

yo, this looks interesting

where can I apply for a translator?

[sage tangle]

Which language?

[regal elk]

croatian

looks like you needed one heh?

:D

[chilly orbit]

Afaik croatian is already added as a language so you can create a crowdin account and start translating

[sage tangle]

Yes, we have no croatian official translator. As Drako said, you can basically start translating immediately by just creating a Crowdin account 🙂
(See Stickies about how to)

[regal elk]

I just started playing the game, but I was blown away that it had croatian - even if its still in progress

[native scaffold]

SHOW ME THE WAY

[sage tangle]

Yup, everything (aside from English) is work of the community 🙂 Hand made

[sage tangle]

Translate your own language, don't cheeze words

[native scaffold]

can i get some wine to go with the cheese?

[chilly orbit]

He's not the right person to ask that

[native scaffold]

i am just joking

[chilly orbit]

I was joking too, because he's German, and we have french people for the wine

[regal elk]

Stickies?

[native scaffold]

Well, i am portuguese, soo my standarts are high

[chilly orbit]

Pinned messages

[regal elk]

I see

ty

[sage tangle]

I can call in 5-10 grim looking frenchmen with hard baguettes to cheeze you if you don't take translation seriously 😛
||not joking||

[native scaffold]

i am serious a man who talks all languages

when talks to programing

XD

[sage tangle]

Any new translator is very welcome to join the ranks 🙂

[native scaffold]

soo i can read a variable in any language

you cant find people like me in any corner

[rough crystal]

Sheesh portugual translation looking mighty thin

[native scaffold]

yeah...

a lot of work to do

[sage tangle]

Translation works like this:
If something is not translated, it stays english (Variables stay the same either way and always work / must be kept the way they are)
If it is translated, it gets in
Newer translations overwrite older translations
Higher voted translations overwrite lower voted
Approved translations are 'locked' and need to be checked by a proofreader before everything above changes it.

[sage tangle]

Another volunteer? 🙂

[rough crystal]

Wish i was confident enough to helo translate the spanish one, good luck with portuguese :)

[rough crystal]

Nooo, i just lurk.

I like languages but too afraid imma mess something up lol

[native scaffold]

well, for portuguese you have brasil one....

[rough crystal]

I mean duh, i study the EU dialect tho

Sounds more interesting to me

And i saw that you're helping with the eu

[sage tangle]

Don't be afraid. Surrender, join 😛

[rough crystal]

isnt the spanish one almost done tho

Or spanish ones

[native scaffold]

why not add this two and make 90%

[rough crystal]

Also why is there spanish and modern spanish?? Why not eu and latam

? A lil confusing lol

Or do you have real old castilian??👀

[native scaffold]

imagine they had latin

that would be POG

[rough crystal]

Sheesh, all the romance gang would be happy

Except for french

[sage tangle]

Maybe @leaden sapphire and @limber yarrow can help with that.

[rough crystal]

I just looked up and yeah modern is latam

Never seen them called that before 🤔

[leaden sapphire]

The devs selected "Modern Spanish" as the language representing Spanish initially. Not sure why the modern epithetus, though. Anyway, the first team translating in Spanish was the one led by larkdinux, that means the latam Spanish.

Fight after that "Spanish" was added for the European one.

[rough crystal]

Strange

I mean it's a little confusing but not a big deal

[leaden sapphire]

But yes, I somehow disagree latam can be considered the "Modern" Spanish.

Yes, I can feel you there.

[rough crystal]

I mean i have some old ass books if they wanna see what old spanish really is lmao

[leaden sapphire]

But we cannot change it now.

[rough crystal]

Oh, unfortunate

[leaden sapphire]

Yeah, old castillian like our old classics.

[rough crystal]

Have you ever tried to read don quijote in it's origionl writting?

[leaden sapphire]

But well, I hope it's not a huge issue for you. Just try to adapt to it and that's it

[rough crystal]

Yeah ofc

[leaden sapphire]

Yes, I had it in my hands. Didn't read it all though.

[rough crystal]

Same, i read the first page then way like

[leaden sapphire]

Anyway, if you have any issues identifying dialects or something, let us know. Sorry for the inconveniences caused by the names. It's something we didn't choose, unfortunately.

[rough crystal]

Is there a way i might be able to join in on the community translating??

[rough crystal]

All good

Just takes a bit of clarification that's all

[leaden sapphire]

Sure. Do you know crowdin?

[sage tangle]

Do you think GSG should change the ingame + crowdin name to something more usual / fitting?

[rough crystal]

Nope, I've never actually done translating like this before lol, i hope that's not a big issue

I wanna get into it

But I've never had the chance

[sage tangle]

(I have no idea of the 'official' international naming of the different Spanish languages)

[leaden sapphire]

It's something thst could be discussed, fakiyo. However, I think the names are correct in the game. It's onky in crowdin.

[rough crystal]

You can just say

Spanish (Latin America) [in place of modern]

Spanish (Europe)

[leaden sapphire]

I will write to you later on regarding this, if you give me some time

[sage tangle]

If it is confusing for the average translator and you (Spanish translators) are agreeing on one solution (take the correct ingame name?), we can ask GSG to adjust the crowdin naming, if that's possible.

[rough crystal]

Great, thank you! I'll be in and out today, clases ya tú sabes lol

[leaden sapphire]

Perfect. If you give me some time I can send some pics and reasonings to present such request, fakiyo

[leaden sapphire]

Sure, same here. I never stay a whole day in Discord.

[regal elk]

crowdin is down?

[native scaffold]

for me is too

[sage tangle]

Yeh, happens. Which language are you translating?

[regal elk]

croatian :D

[rough crystal]

Woah I've never seen written coration

[rough crystal]

@limber yarrow Buenas, Mirage me dijo que debería hablar contigo para tener acceso al canal privado de español.

Quisiera ayudar a traducir el juego.

[limber yarrow]

@rough crystal Hola, hay un canal que es de traductores del español pero está un poco abandonado xD no es que no tengamos actividad, si no que como en Latam solo somos 2 (el otro es Odraza) entonces discutimos todo por mensaje privado

Nada más tenes que registrarte en crowdin y ya podes empezar

Si tenes alguna duda, avisame

[rough crystal]

Ah va, muchas gracias

[limber yarrow]

[regal elk]

eyo

so

the thing is like this

ive stumbled accross the sentence with a value

the thing is, I cant make it grammatically accurate,

the ending of a word changes based on the number

should I ignore it for now?

[sage tangle]

Can you give me an example?

[regal elk]

well

so its like

cant paste the pic

Complete {value} missions in Radioactive Exclusion Zone

this is the english one

in croatian it would be

Završi {1} misiju u Radioaktivnoj Isključenoj Zoni

Završi {2, 3, 4} misije u Radioaktivnoj Isključenoj Zoni

Završi {5+} misija u Radioaktivnoj Isključenoj Zoni

[regal elk]

see the thing now?

[sage tangle]

Yep, that's not possible

How about
Finish missions in fungus bogs {amount}X

So it reads
finish missions in fungus bogs 1x
Finish missions in fungus bogs 5x

[regal elk]

yeah I could make something like that

stuff like

"Remaining missions to complete: 5"

[sage tangle]

Sadly we can't have too many cases each time, that would be an endless effort for all languages. I know there is another one which has cases for. 0, 1, 2-10 and 11+

It's totally silly

[slim verge]

welcome to the struggle of the translation

[regal elk]

thats ok, what I need to know is if you're fine with the 2nd option

[native scaffold]

portuguese has singular and plural 😄

its an hard language but is simple in that

[sage tangle]

Whatever stays true to the game and works naturally 8j your language is a good solution

[regal elk]

aight

[sage tangle]

If you have any questions or need help just ask away.

[regal elk]

aye will do

one thing im doing rn is, im actually reverting some stuff back to original names

for an example, I gave a Drilldozer a separate name

but I think it would be better to call it by an english name, makes googling and stuff simpler, and I find it to be overall easier to understand, because a lot of the names I made up don't really make sense unless they have read the original meaning

[sage tangle]

Most languages settle for keeping the original names for betc, beernames and so on. Which I find the most elegant solution, them being proper names or product brands

[regal elk]

cool

[regal elk]

1359 words in one day translated

id say im pretty good xd

[short abyss]

If you need any help regarding translating strings you can look at the 🇸🇮 translations, since 🇸🇮 and 🇭🇷 are fairly similar

I know i often look at what others translated

it's a good reference

[regal elk]

thats the way I did it :D

helped me well on some words

[digital dawn]

Hey all! Anyone know off the top of their head the context for "Deeptora"?

I don't feel like it's prudent to ask for context through Crowdin since this was already done, and answered with "it's a proper name". However it really matters to me whether that's a person's name, or, the name of a drink, a product, a planet, a biome/location, a ship, etc

[chilly orbit]

That's the name of a "bee species"

Deeptora Honeycomb, a kinda rare static "mob" in sandblasted only, which is a nest of small bugs basically. Those will swarm you when you come close to the nest, and can only be destroyed by burning them, and will respawn within a few seconds.
There's a Hollow Bough Variant, which is the Deeptora Bough Wasp Nest

[digital dawn]

Awesome, thank you!

[chilly orbit]

[digital dawn]

That feeling when you divine a word for something ("flare gun") and then find that word in an obscure 1940 book which is one of the language's only references for war/military terminology

[dry cradle]

Well yeah, knowing I almost haven't got time to translate it, and until some time ago I was the sole translator for it lmao

[sage tangle]

Yeh generally if is better to just ask here, and leave possible markers or issues in crowdin. (Like: this error has a typo and was reported to Jira)

[rough crystal]

All good, happy translating

[boreal quest]

So, the big issue I am having with the news ticker/strip above and in the mineral trading is that every word is capitalised. If I want to bite the bullet then I would have to just translate all of that stuff as is, with every word capitalised. If I want to be grammatically correct, I would have to restructure every single sentence to have all the wordpool words lowercase, not being the starting word, and still make sense.

So I am at a rather stupid crossroads.

So, do I restructure every sentence so that the leading word is never a word from the wordpool or just go f'it and do it as is? Poppycock.

[sharp dagger]

For German I just went with it and translated them all capitalized and it's working fine know. There were still some things to work out but generally I think it turned out fine.

But I can imagine that your language is more intricate (subtle/demanding) in that matter.

[boreal quest]

It's keeping it grammatically correct that is the hardest part. I already had to just not use exclamation marks at the end of sentences and also not capitalise words.

The mineral trade is where I will probably just give in.

[chilly orbit]

Same goes for french with the mineral trade.
It's very complicated, because the exact wording of {Person} depends on its place in the sentence, {Creature} have genres so it can influence the verbs, and {PersonOrCreature} is just an unsolvable enigma

[digital dawn]

Haven't gotten that far yet but I'm sure I'll be able to work it in Esperanto rather easily; the part I'm probably going to give up on is beer names lol

[slim verge]

Depends

Do the Esperanto follow the "do not translate brand name" rule ?

[digital dawn]

It honestly depends. There's an Esperantized form of every big brand name I can think of... "JuTubo", "Guglo", "Tvitero", "Majnkrafto", "Mikrosofto"... but they're all about as common as their real counterparts, "YouTube", "Google", "Twitter", etc

Zamenhof got some things way right, but he really needed to specify what we were supposed to do with proper names 😞

Ultimately I guess it's up to the translator. If they can be translated or transliterated then that's preferable I think.

[slim verge]

well then good luck if you choose to translate them ^^

[sage tangle]

Leaflovero

[boreal quest]

Fakiyovero

[digital dawn]

mdr

Your suggestion for minerals, "«Morkite» ore" or "ore «Morkite»" -- it wasn't necessary for minerals but I have been doing that for other things, especially bug names. Could do it for drinks too but that probably isn't necessary (No need to prefix everything like "Speciala «Leaf Lover's»")

I actually discovered that there was a new system for scientific names, proposed in 1970, "New Biological Nomenclature", that literally just uses Esperanto, and I wasn't even trying to copy it, but that's how my translations turned out for bugs

[digital dawn]

The EO for "Deep Dive" is, essentially, "Profound Plunge", and I'm happy that the alliteration stays intact hahaha

[mellow topaz]

Heh

[grim grail]

Does Finnish translation team need help?

cause i want it to be completely done

[crystal acorn]

Why do we need other languages than human

[boreal quest]

I believe @mellow topaz is the Finnish proofreader, so let's ask him.

[mellow topaz]

more help is certainly appreciated. It's largely a case of standardizing things.

[grim grail]

so how can i help

you can come direct

[mellow topaz]

@solid bough can you give @grim grail the FI translator role?

[gritty sigil]

While at it, perhaps me too if its no bother? 😅 I did pop up here once on the past just to do a suggestion, but didnt do anything on crowdin yet and people have done much on Fin translation since that I'm afraid of touching anything before knowing whats already established and all that

[mellow topaz]

you don't need a translator role to make an account in Crowdin.

[slim verge]

If you're afraid of doing "wrong", don't be. The proofreader can correct things up (well, when you have one but even without one it's not a problem anyway). Besides, you won't be messing things up if you communicate with the other people working on the translation, which you can do through this channel or through DMs. 👍

[gritty sigil]

Ah, didnt mean that, I have had account already just wasnt sure where to start and all that, and if theres any "rules" alteady in place for certain things in the translation. I thought maybe you manage some stuff just between Fin translators. Cheers @slim verge , I guess I'll come back once I've tried something in crowdin whenever it helps or not 👍

[mellow topaz]

Just DM me for questions, and when you have the role, #finnish-drg is open for other ppl to give opinions on things.

Just for a rule of thumb, don't touch the glossary without consulting others first.

[slim verge]

The only rule is "don't mess things up in a malicious way" but that's about it really 😄

for everything else, it's like work ethic

[digital dawn]

Do any strings in the Glossary appear in-game? Like is that a glossary just for translators or also part of an in-game Glossary?

[slim verge]

The glossary is both a library and a shortcut

it's a collection or recurring words basically and if I'm not wrong, you can use it to instantly translate those words in one click apparently ? (never used that since I do it on the go by memory)

It's mostly valuable as a library for me

[digital dawn]

Hmmm

👍

[worn obsidian]

just wanted to say all of you kick ass for putting in so much work to translate the game to other languages

[digital dawn]

Rok' kaj Ŝton'!

[slim verge]

thank you 😄

[native scaffold]

where is #portuguese-translation ?

[sage tangle]

Language specific translation channels are either dependent on the #lang_translator role or don't necessarily exist for too few translators.

[sage tangle]

Join today and you too can kick ass and translate favourite game for possible online reputation. Includes good feeling for having done something helpful

[native scaffold]

what i need then?

[sage tangle]

PM

[native scaffold]

@sage tangledo you remember when i asked how to translate first names and last names

you said for me not to do them

since in portuguese language words can be a litle diferent based on the word ahead of it

and also, you said to check on brasilian translations if i wanted to have some help

and i am seeing a lot of this

we dont use "and", we use "e"

[sage tangle]

Yes, similar languages help a lot if you're unsure. You should not make their errors, too 😄
@dry cradle I assume is doing that language?

[dry cradle]

W r o n g

I'm doing European pt

You even pinned me correctly mane, cmon lmao

OK now seriously, that wasn't me, I only contributed twice tho that language, and it was on the inertia inhibitor

[native scaffold]

the pic is from brasil one and i was doing european portuguese, but checking what they had on brasil to check if i had right idea

and i sent the pick showing it was a mistake on the translation

[regal elk]

when I translate something on crowdin, it gets directly into the game?

like, there is no middle man "approving" stuff, in the early stages of translation

I know that there is one later one, that decides which words stay and which ones I need to change

[slim verge]

No, it gets pulled in with every update/patchnotes (well, mostly)

[regal elk]

ah

ty

[sage tangle]

Meany, stop having confusing languages then

[mellow topaz]

Proofreaders simply approve and decline translations, they basically just lock down strings that they find are translated and need no changes

[sage tangle]

Or pick a newly transmitted suggestion, fix / adjust it further and approve that

Darn grammar, ruining our translation

Translators and languages are natural enemies.
Like punctuation and translators.
Or grammar and translators.
Or vocabulary and translators:

Damn translators, ruining translations!

[regal elk]

I see

[mellow topaz]

So technically, the proofreader step isn't necessary for the translation role, but it does reduce griefing

[slim verge]

yeah

[sage tangle]

Plus it helps random people unknowingly breaking agreed upon words / systems. (Mostly names, or changes due to HUD reasons).
Ideally, it would mean 'This is approved and should not need another look at'
Though in reality, this is rarely the case 😄

[slim verge]

we don't have a lot of griefers

it's mostly bots, people trying to improve their word counts or just bad translation

thankfully.

[mellow topaz]

Still not sure wtf was with that one account who was seemingly impersonating a Twitch streamer

One with not too many followers, either

[regal elk]

btw

whats the deal with

lemme find it

QA issues

so far ive ignored them

[sage tangle]

WDYM exactly?

[quick torrent]

Hey, guys! Ru localization of a game is bugged - now it's a strange mix of ru and eng words. Do you know about it? Need some screenshots? Or i just need to report it to devs jira?

[sage tangle]

Can you give us examples (Screenshots) here?

[sage tangle]

Translations are community made, so if there's an error, we (community translators) need to fix it, nothing GSG can do 🙂

[quick torrent]

Yep, sec, will turn on the game

all translations were made by fans?

so

some warnings missions aren't translated

[sage tangle]

yes, everything (except English) is translated by the community

[quick torrent]

You are breathtaking

[sage tangle]

@echo storm and @tight heart are Russians translators. (For some reason I can't ping Bebe #1? )
You guys there? 😄

[quick torrent]

no eggs in eggs missions

@echo storm хмм, понимаю

some missions names are strange too - 1 ru and 1 eng word

[sage tangle]

Just looked it up.
GSG had to re-implement some old strings (f.i. Mission Names) with the last patch, but forgot to pull the newly translated strings and patch them in the game. Plus the RUS guys resubmitted Mission names ('Sudden') 7 days ago, since then there was no patch.
@quick torrent that's the reason why it's mixed EN / RUS. Will be like this until the next patch.
Are there wrong translations, or only 'missing' ones?

[quick torrent]

some names seems strange, but mb it's planned %) For example

"Level Green" why green, why level? I dunno %) But it's minor

or here, elite deep dive must be Земля необработаннАЯ

[sage tangle]

@dense valley 🙂

[quick torrent]

btw, guys, I know guys who knows english and can help with translations

so, we can do it if you need smth %)

[digital dawn]

But the game is already in English /s

[quick torrent]

yep, but we can translate it on....

russian

=В

cause in mother russia we like dwarfes and beer

i mean if you need some free help with it

[dry cradle]

i have a question

[REDACTED]

devs, can you give an insight on this please?

[digital dawn]

The devs don't routinely check this channel but @sage tangle can probably help answer

[dry cradle]

that should help too

i wanted to ping as less as possible, thats why i didnt ask someone in specific

[sage tangle]

PM

[digital dawn]

What is meant by "Dummy Speak"? Context says "temp message"

Is this like a "Lorem Ipsum" kind of line or...?

[regal elk]

write whatever u want and wait for someone to complain

xd

[digital dawn]

lmao

[sage tangle]

Yes. You'll find some string along those lines.
loooong string
This text is cool
and so on. Placeholders for testing levels and so on

You won't find them in the game

[regal elk]

would u mind giving me insight into this as well btw

[dense valley]

@quick torrent Some of the strings you reported are translated, but not implemented yet - as Fakiyo said, sometimes devs just re-implement old strings, so they will appear in the game with the next patch. About mission names - they are tricky, because they are randomly generated from two separate word lists. Some of these words were already translated by random guys who didn't knew how it works, so I reworked all of them in a certain pattern a few days ago. I believe they will start looking more or less logical when fixed versions will appear.

[quick torrent]

nice

and what about help? Do you need it?

[dense valley]

Also, @sage tangle, AFAIK some of the translators you mentioned have had some kind of... misunderstanding with devs as i heard, so they aren't engaged in a translation process anymore. Maybe i'm wrong.

[dense valley]

You can contribute in a translation via CrowdIn - it's open for anyone, i believe. I'm just asking you to make new translations in accordance with older ones.

[quick torrent]

crowdin?

[sage tangle]

This is the correct link 🙂
https://crowdin.com/project/deep-rock-galactic

[quick torrent]

ty

[sage tangle]

If you are joining, feel free to ask any questions here. If you stick around, we do have language specific translation channels for translator roles 🙂

[quick torrent]

okay, don't understand some stuff at crowdin, but to lazy to ask questions today

[mellow topaz]

alrighty

[slim verge]

Bebe is gone

that would be why

[sage tangle]

Yeh talked to Paladin, will adjust sticky tomorrow

[echo storm]

Yep

[native scaffold]

how do i get aproved words?

[dry cradle]

Approved words are only things a proofreader can do

So, if a proofreader thinks your translation is a good one, you'll get an amount of approved words correspondent to the word count of said string

[native scaffold]

well, portuguse proofreader doing poor job on that

0 total aproved

[dry cradle]

Well we don't have a proofreader so far lmao

Iirc

[native scaffold]

F

[sage tangle]

Proofreaders get assigned once a language is active enough and somebody has proofen (haha) himself to be active and trustworthy enough.

As with basically everything translation related, there is no hard set of criteria. Just 'when it feels like it' 😄
Though for something as important as translation, it makes sense to not make somebody in a week proofreader, but wait a bit for the long time investment.

[native scaffold]

dont make me proofreader

just more trouble

XD

[copper linden]

Hello I would like to help translate DRG

[slim verge]

Sure, all you need to do is hop on crowdin, make an account and start translating (link in the pinned message) ^^

for what language btw ?

[sage tangle]

@copper linden for Portuguese you can help together with @dry cradle .
Start out here and read the stickie posts 🙂
https://crowdin.com/project/deep-rock-galactic

[copper linden]

ok

I'm glad to join you guys

(:

[small kernel]

Welcome to the ship Miner 🙂

[slim verge]

welcome aboard

[dry cradle]

Let us rocknstone in porch of geese language

[copper linden]

YES

[sage tangle]

Engi do you show him the ropes?:)

[copper linden]

Is there a room where you keep the ropes?

what are they used for?

[sage tangle]

If you mean channels, yeh, once a translator team becomes big enough there are language specific translator channels

[dry cradle]

Roping, of course

OK jk

Once I get time, I'll show the ropes

But I doubt it will be today

[sage tangle]

@copper linden if you have any questions at all, feel free to ask here.

[copper linden]

ok

[native scaffold]

how can i fix this?

they translated from engineer

[regal elk]

what I find really interesting is that, when browsing through some of the previous translations, is how some people aren't educated very well in their own mother language

there is one dude in particular

[native scaffold]

i am already getting my head confused between portuguese european and brasil portuguese

XD

[regal elk]

who legit copy pasted the entire sentences in google translator and just pasted them

[native scaffold]

someone who wants to get more word count

[regal elk]

word count my ass

[native scaffold]

^

i agree with you

[regal elk]

would be better if he didnt touch anything at all

[native scaffold]

but not everyone plays it fair

[regal elk]

yeah but

[native scaffold]

and i agree they will just give more work to everyone else

[regal elk]

now its mixed with the already well-done translations

Ive got no time to be looking through all of them :D

[native scaffold]

F

cant you look translations done by X person?

[regal elk]

probably...

[native scaffold]

if you know it was one guy who did that

then block him from the translation team

and remove all his work

might be better

to keep it good quality translation

[regal elk]

He didnt troll... not on purpose id say atleast xd

more like his english wasn't good enough...

ill see

[native scaffold]

well, gl for that

[regal elk]

ill prolly leave it as it is for now

[slim verge]

I think you can indeed

[native scaffold]

brasil translation many times being kinda lazy again...

[regal elk]

even after croatian is done translating, it will need for some proofreaders for sure

[slim verge]

When I picked up french translation, it was quite a mess too 😄

[regal elk]

this is what ive been talking about

[native scaffold]

and for me to go and put a comment to fix it is kinda a pain

[regal elk]

some ppl are just lazy and make it a pain for the rest of us then

also portugese is doing well huh?

[native scaffold]

for me to go get that mistake i will need to change language, go search the word

and put a comment

[regal elk]

77% translated

[native scaffold]

or something else

idk

maybe sugest a new translation

since for me european and brasil portuguese can be understood by me ez

and some times i look for brasil ones to make translations more easily

but i always check if they are right

[regal elk]

@sage tangle under pinned stuff, ive seen that you can use debug mode for string info, can I use it to find the exact string which for an example, has an unfinished/falsely translated words

I saw that they display something among the lines "#00565"

how do I know what to do with them tho

@native scaffold btw are you that guy I played yesterday with?

[native scaffold]

maybe

i played with a lot of ravaza yesterday

idk if they were you

[regal elk]

xdd

[native scaffold]

😛

[sage tangle]

The project is publicly shown on crowdin. You can use your crowdin account to get paid (in other projects, not DRG) per word. Some people try to boost their profiles by searching for public projects and just dumping google translations in there.
'Hey I want X bucks for 100 words, look how many bibles I already translated'

[sage tangle]

You mean find them in crowdin, or find them in the game?

[regal elk]

yes xd

mostly on crowdin

im acting as a translator and an ingame proofreader

[slim verge]

note the # of the string (take a screenshot basically) and enter the number in the search bar

[regal elk]

so if I spot mistakes in game, I want to be able to fix it in crowdin

[regal elk]

I believe ive tried that, but got no results

ill talk more about this later if needed, have to go for now

[slim verge]

make sure you're checking on "show everything" though

[regal elk]

I am 100% of the time

[sage tangle]

If you want to search for #12345 in crowdin, you need to switch your language to drg-testing-language

[regal elk]

ahh

[sage tangle]

Normally it's like this:
I see faulty string:
ERROR
debug mode shows me ERROR = #12345
I go to my language, filter for the word ERROR - it brings up 10x the word ERROR
I scroll down to 'other languages' and see if it's 12345 or something else

[regal elk]

got it

[native scaffold]

and i ask again, what about this translations, what i should do about them?

granada in portuguese is granade

in brasil is the same

@sage tangle should i go there and say my translation, or what?

i know its wrong, but i dont know if brasil has another word for gear other than "equipamento", wich appens for some words

[shell vine]

For now, there are no translators for the Brazillian portuguese on record on discord (they might be here, but they did not come forward ||yet, I hope||).
From what I can see on your screenshot, the translation that you marked are not proofread (green square means it was translated, but not approved), so you can change it yourself (just click on the green name of the language to jump there). Like that, the corrected version will be included in the next update from the devs ||if they remember to update the strings, this time||

[sage tangle]

This string is wrong, and approved? Or is it not apprived?

[shell vine]

(he is showing the page for EU portuguese, with the showcase of BR-portuguese underneath, which is apparently wrong)

[native scaffold]

also, if i am unsure between two translations that might be right, can i sugest two?

[shell vine]

you can, but remember that only the latest one submitted will be pushed to the game.

[native scaffold]

something like this

[copper linden]

btw

[native scaffold]

ik this is from a song

[shell vine]

Still a good idea to do it, as the proofreader will have more choice the day he/she will approve the strings (if ever)

[native scaffold]

but at same time idk if i should translate

[copper linden]

Is it ok if I help translate without owning the game myself?

[native scaffold]

but i will keep the most recent as the english one then

[sage tangle]

You technically can... though usually being able to actually see the thing ingame helps a lot.
Out of curiosity: How come you're here in this discord and even translating, not owning the game? 😄

[shell vine]

What we did for french in these cases, is that we searched if there was an existing translation for the piece of media (music, movie, etc.) and used that. If none exist, we left it in english to keep the reference.

[shell vine]

Steam library sharing ?

[copper linden]

I saw some walkthroughs on YT

[native scaffold]

i seen some places where there is that translation, but in my opinion i like more the english one

[copper linden]

what is that?

[shell vine]

And yes, the project is open to all, feel free to help, but it might be better if you also coordinate with the other translators for the names of the different things in the game.
If no other translators are active, feel free to translate it anyway, as seeing a partially translated game has a tendency to attract more people to the project.

[native scaffold]

or by playing the game, you start knowing where the strings come from

[shell vine]

That is a feature of steam where you can let up to five friends of yours play your games when you are not playing anything yourself.

[copper linden]

like family share?

[native scaffold]

the downfall is that you must trust that person 100%, cause any trouble they do, its your responsability

[copper linden]

wait so do you also share data for that game?

[native scaffold]

yes

but you can limit what games your family/friends can play

[copper linden]

like if I could library share minecraft that other person would be able to go into a single player world I made?

[native scaffold]

minecraft is not even on steam KEKW

but the logic is correct

[copper linden]

It's just an example

oh ok

[sage tangle]

I mean why don't you buy / play it?
And yesn't - Family share means you can access the LIBRARY of a family member, not the game saves though.

[shell vine]

No, the saves are separate, that person is using your key for the games, but with their steam accounts.

[copper linden]

I'm broke

[native scaffold]

is this a misstype?

what is "th"

and here

isnt it "without"

?

[sage tangle]

I think this isn't in the game.
I just looked up the second one though, I'm reporting this as typo on Jira

[native scaffold]

ok

should i report all misstypes here or on the site?

[sage tangle]

Here first 🙂

[native scaffold]

ok

[regal elk]

this one, is it "good" or "bad"

like red text saying "ah u cant place ur zipline there"

[sage tangle]

Reported aboves 'with or with out' you / Without you
https://ghostshipgames.atlassian.net/browse/DRG-3419

[native scaffold]

no credits to who found it ;-;

[sage tangle]

We have a (new) system for reporting those. In the past you just made an issue on crowdin and maybe reported them here.
'New' system is reporting them on Jira like above (as subtask of the typo report) and making a comment on Crowdin.

If you don't have an account, no time or can't be assed just post them here 🙂

[sage tangle]

Sorry what do you mean? 🙂

AFAIK this is not in the game

[regal elk]

You tell me

Ah not in the game

Ok

[slim verge]

It's a very old thing. Probably a mod that was removed when they've redone the whole mod system

[sage tangle]

I'm glad you're so active

@digital dawn when can I play the game in Esperanto to learn the language?

Funnily enough I know all the texts and lines inside out now, so that would actually be possible

[native scaffold]

but is esperanto a real language for the game, or was added there as a joke?

[sage tangle]

It was just added to crowdin, CodeWeaver asked for it.
New languages are only put into the game once the crowdin translation reaches a certain (undefined) high %.

For serious, yes

[native scaffold]

because my teachers would always say that esperanto was a language that would become universal, but then it died

[sage tangle]

Yeah, did they hear of english? 😄

[native scaffold]

like what english is today

[native scaffold]

but esperanto was created on a time where english was not soo popular

[sage tangle]

I actually had to look it up, never heard of it before. But there are some speakers and they're enthusiastic, obviously.
In my mind, Esperanto will rise and be more active than the big (ESP-FR-DE) translations

[slim verge]

that was the idea behind esperanto but it never became a thing

[native scaffold]

exactly

some people know how to talk esperanto

[slim verge]

Yeah but there's not much of them

[native scaffold]

but it might be less usefull than learning latin

[slim verge]

it's somewhere between 100 000 and 10M of people speaking esperanto (from worst estimation to best)

[native scaffold]

talking about latin, wouldnt it be a fun idea to have the possibility to have game in latin?

[slim verge]

there's no interest in that

nobody speak latin

[native scaffold]

pbb more than esperanto

[slim verge]

Not really

[sage tangle]

Both languages / translations would be only for real enthusiasts

seeing it's no effort / cost for the devs... if somebody is willing

though I wouldn't 'litter' the game with random languages

[native scaffold]

latin is not random

is the base for many european languages

like italian, spanish, portuguese....

[slim verge]

yeah but nobody speak latin

there's no point in putting it into the game 🤷‍♂️

[native scaffold]

thats wrong

XD

all my portuguese teachers, knew latin

XD

[slim verge]

Latin is studied for many reasons but not for actually speaking it

[native scaffold]

it depends in wich year you talking about

present? yes

past? not soo much

[slim verge]

Well, the past from 2000 years ago doesn't really matter now, does it ?

[native scaffold]

past is past!

does it be 1 year ago or 2000000 years

[sage tangle]

do your language first 😉

[native scaffold]

also, i noticed that english translation is not complete yet

i can help with that

😄

[sage tangle]

English translation is not necessary

Game is in english already

[native scaffold]

ik that