#non-drg-chat
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dw
No sorry also im drunk and its 1:30 am now
Oh what the fuck
They just had to go and add trade evos to legends ZA
PLA was perfect, you could get all the pokemon (aside from mythicals) just by playing alone
Kitttyy
hai frrt
hello
bruh
you're telling me this spring was trapped??
For some reason YouTube thinks that i would like to pay money to watch shitty new star track shows like lower decks
@placid path i am going to wash a baguette
When @drifting wren is beeg eepy
Drako is not available at the moment, come back later
BBBBBBB
:3
today’s art
does anyone here have a steam deck 👀
Is this about the new steam machine or controller
Do you like Strawberry Milkshake?
Ye. Don't use it a ton but I've fiddled with it a little
would you say its worth it, as a handheld?
cuz i have a switch too, but, never use it
It's hard to say honestly.
If you want something to do like AAA from the past 5-6 years the performance honestly just ain't there with the sacrifices you need to make for 60. It's a incredible machine for indies and older stuff within it's power though.
I genuinely love the control scheme and the customizability of it, the track pads when you get used to them and configure stuff to your liking really do help in stuff designed for m&k.
It'd still be hard to be competitive in like a PvP fps but I bet you could get there with practice
Also if you want to do emulation it's obviously phenomenal for that
Battery life varies dramatically depending on what you are doing. The previously mentioned AAAs will get you like an hour but you can get closer to six in low spec titles
I mostly only used it plugged in or on the bus
no way
man?
Why not bat
nananananananananananananananana...
...
man




Every parking lot should come with an Independence Day Tripod laser turret that zaps anyone that leaves a cart out in the open
right, better reduce the number of unattended carts and take few home
They should have short guy that punches you in the crotch instead
that's too uncivilized
parking lot needs a dude with a shovel and if he sees you not returning cart
make him wear a tophat
you guess it, windshield goes goodbye
Perfect for the windshield stores
yes, support for local businesses
Just add a creature feature
Spooky guy out of your sight looking at you until you put the cart back
Bro we're in 2025
wouldn't work on me tho
but that spooky guy would return cart for me, so yeah, that's a plan
Spooky guy looking at you is a default feature on any street
is a lighter more or less lighter when its heavier
Yes
Quantum physics right there
Do not use VC on l4d2
define tuff
way too cool name for the font 😔
just a good looking font that isnt a 3 pixel adjustment from arial
montserrat?
…to be specific, for what purpose are you looking for a font
if bebas neue fits well, i'd assume something like titling or headings or something like that
look at condensed variants of fonts perhaps?
fjalla one seems pretty solid
if you don't need a narrow font, so does josefin sans
and then there's the different variants of BBH sans
https://fonts.google.com/?query=Studio+DRAMA
Lammy
Hi
Guess you could say he's got low defence
You’re fired
Hello wiwestor, eater of lasagna
Thats ok, I've got a cat on my lap
Why
Its stopped being on sale so i dont eat it anymore
Caviar dreams is one of my favorite fonts for titles but its not great for blocks of text
Go away
I saw this on a school...
There a specific brand of lasagna you enjoyed before it got discontinued?
No
Its just to expensive
As previously stated I'm inCATpacitated
Fair
It was on 50% sale fore like 3 months
I will eat your refrigerators wires
Meownsenberg!?
He is the one that purrs
His biscuits are 99.6% crunchy
in purrgatory
He works for gUwUstavo Fring
And blue
Never say this again
Blblblblblblbl
Pspspspsps
Fun fact, downing a sugary and alcoholic drink in less than 10 seconds because you're in an absolute rush is not good for your drunkenness for hours to come
Kids, don't do Bailey's.
Well, don't do alcohol, but specifically don't do Bailey's, that shit's traitorous
Factual
Do not that type shit
the opposite's been true for me
only time ive ever been drunk was on the tail end of a corn nuts binge
Amarula is the only time I got sick
Oh I'm not sick
But I'm def drunk
and way more affected that if I took the time to sip it
The next days I was disy and felt like shit till I vomited late in the day
Too much information
Baileys is disgusting sweet
Also drako
Im gonna wash your baguette
I will put it in the sink
but why the fuck would you do that
And run it under the tap
But why
I saw the same short. It rehydrates it. A very quick rinse and a bake. Crisps the crust up and softens the inside
Please don't
But you don't do that, you brush it with a lil water
Don't put it in the fucking sink
Clickbait
Putting my baguettes in the dishwasher
not a fan of being drunk, gotta say
I will sink your baguette
psychological benefits of being buzzed with the uncomfiness of being woozy
True
Enjoy the moment
Enjoy the thought of a baguette under the kitchen sink
It has been enjoyed, am home
Yippee! :3
this reminds me of the people who figured out you could steam fish in a dishwasher
More of a poach really
ok i have to call this one out: wtf happened for this image to pass through ai image gen/editing twice?
🤷♂️
probably, depends on the type of dishwasher i guess, most civilian is probably a poach, but i know the industrial ones used in schools and hospitals are steam
Can't wait to watch air riders meta devolve immediately into swerve star Rick
🥳
I feel like next time i go to a nightclub
Its gonna be very, very interesting
Of course, cause you’ll be there
Yeah, thats why... Thats why
Imagine if you'd be there too like WOW
Hi chat!! Peep the horror
-# custom shader uniforms (aka values you shove into the shader)
Took like 4 hours to set up because Minecraft core shader documentation is torture
Nice
Java or bedrock
The same was used to add fancy outlines to missiletoad's bombs
Please kill me if i ever try modding bedrock edition
I’m going to kiss ya
I’d be like 
Still life painting
We'd shake up
How much fps are you gaining by going the ball crusher route
???
I'm using it to change the model vertexes to make the entities look like jelly
You can't do it any other way
Mmm, banan milkshake
You need a shader and for it to not shake violently you need to import the global location. Which the uniform does.
Is this a first proof of concept
First time ever done
They are the silly guys!! Silly little guys!!
I was thinking we could break it down
No, I don't think so, i got help from the fabric documentation server to set up the uniforms themselves because it's torture logically
As for the jelly shader itself
Yea i think
Yes wiggle wiggle think about the possibilities 😟
Very impressive, congratulations 👏
Dragon style
Anyway check out this awesome fucking 🦭 i drew
And this one i drew before that by taking all the seal details at face value in aseprite
gnome runs past
Did yall see that
Spin me right round baby right round
bethesda once again updating fo4 and breaking every mod
Hello chat
what music am i listening to
Am woozy
Minecraft creative mode ost
you are a character from gta san andreas?
where is the jerma joke?
Why he so 🛻
un weird your head
Can’t
im going to beam 1000000 rads directly into your brain
i got banned from the babft community so im asking this community if this looks awesome enough as concept
what 1 fasnacht does to a mfer
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
dont like fasnacht?
me neather
I like fasnacht, I can sit here and watch it all day
good night my friends have a funky weekend
yeah me too
everything dies before i can scratch it with my claw
went fishing for fun
cought 2 axolotls one after another
insane luck
fo76 fans when they accidentally eat their axoltl
At least it’s tasty
ANYTHING but a boat
meat week superior
Fasnacht superior
nahtu
you can craft the 40% faster fire/swing speed leg mod right?
nope, only had one mod
i can craft faster reload
have to check my list what i can craft
damn
i need an aristrocrats and a faster fire speed mod
melee?
yeah i found out i had 2 raid melee weapons unlocked for crafting
1 of em is litteraly the gauntlet but does fire dmg too
i'll check what i have
nah, only heavy hitter i can craft
more power attack damage
I wanna pick Catnl’s nose
guess i'll have to go shopping again
Ugly dog
lel
:(
cought 2 when i started fishing back to back copple mins ago
webfishing with extra steps
rad fishing
I actually forgot that game existed
😔🤘
i need to do raids in F76
but the boss does somuch dmg that even i cant survive it
same
lets go fish in the rad zone
You need a healthier, prettier dog
i'm good, forgot i have no haz suit
well go do that event that just spawned
you can grab one there
or got a special one as a reward
What kind of egg
look what one of the ghouls dropped
Yknow youd really think that end of support thing would mean microsoft would stop bugging me with these damned "we have another update for you" shit
nice
@urban wharf can you hear my assaultron head "baaing"?
i kept getting trash
good
cause i'm going to quad mod it.
weapon is going to be epitome of average Dragon Ball Z episode: takes 3 episodes to power up and then nukes everything.
sounds great
it's extreme gimmick weapon
but fun in that.
"pirate punch" is good with crit / weakpoint build
found someone that sold aristrocrats for cheap
nice
i use juggernaut
thanks to all total HP i have
i get around 60-70% more damage
damn
i only have 500 ish hp
where did you get all that hp from
eh i never use food and chems
hmm should i max my armour with +3 strength or with endurance
prob strength since i can craft those
i havent looked at my armour for a long time
same, i should do some changes
should look into what i should put as the 1 and 2 stars
somebody went to my camp and bought nearly everything i have
oh another legendary mod unlocked for crafting
divers... how usefull...
i just realised i cant change the legendary mods on the thing i wanted to mod
means i cant put aristrocrats and swing speed on it
damnit
and the 3 star strength mod doesnt go on armour
this game..
Look at these nerds talking about stats 
shut it you irradiated raisin
big number good
exacly
Need to look like this, mental health reasons
the loafer :>
loafen
Bow before me you evolutionary backwards organism.
i dont have to
i still have working limbs
Heya Raine, hope things have been well for you. Keeping safe n stuff I hope 
Mhm mhm
Good good
Your description doesn't help the allegation of ip grabba y'know
Hey would anyone be able to help me figure out how to unlock the pods?
Idk if this is the right chat, but no one in general was very helpful lol.
get a platform role
In a Nintendo game??
Ty so much homie! ❤️ Idk what happened cuz it was working perfectly fine until tonight, but we're all good now.
<@&296918282403840000>
Strange, that compromised account didn't post in forbiddengame-chat
Probably programmed to act differently
Like what your vaccine does to me 
No, the vaccine is meant to be given with the best intentions for your complications.
Must've been quite a stretch to say that, cos it was done with good intensions 
I still felt that
It’s ok Tile, we ain’t punishing you for puns. We want to help you.
I think you and I have different definitions of "help" 
Also I'm looking to hire a thief to break into your super secret laboratory
Hire me, I know the place like the back of my hand.
There would be... a conflict of interest
I see a fair trade
fellow miners, may i have the approval to name this little guy in construction 'Crassus Xraetorian'?
Stop vaccinating him to stop doing puns
U know what
Ima create a vaccine to the other vaccine so the anti-pun vaccine doesn’t do anything to stop your puning.
This is a game we play, stay out. Besides, if he truly doesn’t want it he would’ve stopped after the 3rd time.
Mark my words
No im, im trying to play along 😭
🫐
Hence that
-_-
Blue berry
You’re fired
I would like to propose an alternative that may satisfy both parties 
Why not make puns as well so you can cover for me while I'm under the effects of the vaccine, and Lammy gets to work up a sweat injecting the vaccines
Id do that but it wouldnt be fun
Australians are naturally immune to vaccines
Lammy would just have to deal with me making puns
What say you Lammy?
I just want it specifically between Tile and I. Last person who butted in was being a dick about it.
It does depend on the person and how they want to play this game
I don't personally have an issue with this, making puns is tiring for me so i can use the vaccine as an excuse to relax
Ok ok
Im sorry
Ill stay out of its
Im just trying to be funny man
Nah it's fine. It's just that what Lammy said is true, the last person was being especially obstinate to the point where it killed off the vibe
It's better to just ignore and move on than to meddle in something that you just don't vibe with
Evil and intimidating horse ?
morally ambiguous and bystanding horse
Molten lithium + molten fluorine + liquid hidrogen engine :3
Deadlock phantom strike abrams is so fun
instead of having to walk up and then charge people
I can just phantom strike Colossus charge them instantly
PEANUT BUTTER SWEAT
No
Why not
sticky
All this just for Valve to release Dota 3
@brittle citrus adrenaline shots are so good in arc raiders
Just don’t get addicted to them. Your heart rate will go higher than a NASA rocket.
dear god
Hey man, rusty buckets do wonders.
Buket
A device used to transport liquid whose material of construction has reacted unfavourably with oxygen and moisture 
For someone who hates chemistry, you know a lot of chemistry.
You could say I have a certain chemistry with it 
could one truly say their spine has "got their back" if it would be more accurate to say it is their back?
I deny biology more than I deny chemistry 
Chemistry and Biology mix together
fair enough lol
You could also argue physics mixes with everything
& the result is annoying to memorize
organic chemistry
true
so does math
this is that xkcd, I feel
math is a cognitohazard
This is why the field of study must be held acountable for its actions
Well yeah, we use Newtons 3 laws in our day to day lives.
math is perfection & beauty
once you learn math, you'll never stop seeing it
how? it dictates reality
Holy shit, it’s a bird. Poke it’s beak.
language shapes thought, so language is a cognitohazard
Remove intelligence from monke too, because it's the thought that counts
I probably should start using theese
monkey's experiences modify its behavior, and thus reality is a cognitohazard
we are creatures of change
yeah
all things shape us
nades are kind of insane in arc
to resist the shifting of thought is to resist the betterment of self, and to stagnate in antiquitation
embrace the cognitohazards that are all things
become changed
huh
the kind of inventory that you (don't) pull up to TSA with
I misread that as "become charged" and was shocked
You are such a hoarder
lmaoooo. If change involves becoming overly curious towards the effects of electricity on the body, I suppose that could occur
I see you are a creature of puns tho
That is awesome
The best fight is when you face an enemy stronger than you
Ok, Klingon
So I run bum lodout
best fight that was never happened
I need to get 2 more of theese stupid sniper turrets
lmao theres no credits in the newest cod
theres so much ai slop its impossible to assign everything to real people
story, dialogues, textures and images, background scenes, multiplayer profile banners
yet the game is still $80, or $95 here in poland
the game just goes 'made by these 11 studios' and thats it
my favorite scene in the campaign was when the main character called in predator airstrikes while raiding an underwater base
thats gonna be inzoi soon or any krafton games
surely subnautica 2 will be the last good game they release right
thats gonna be.. everything AAA really
subnautica 2 is gonna be good
i haven't been excitedly waiting for it for years
for it to be ai garbage
surely
AAA == big budget == most likely investors == need to make quick buck == ai
and the 'ethically made, without any AI' will be the new low bar for games
gamers are genuinely the most braindead consumer group
I feel like the average AAA game consumer is exactly the type to turn off their brain while gaming
don't have high expectations for any game and you will never be disappointed
kinda
while the indie game consumer seeks to be challenged
not everyone waited for hollow knight or played it tho
The “average AAA consumer” are just people with like, familes, and jobs, that don’t really know anything and just want to relax for like an hour of free time before dinner and a movie with their wife or smthn. Its not fair to assume someone like that really gives a shit about the same stuff, we, who really enjoy nuance in games, do. Some do, maybe, but its not fair to like call them dumb if they dont since they’re juggling a bunch of other shit.
is using mods cheating
Mmm I mean like at the end of the day you sit down and choose to play a video game for fun, no?
I just hope Raven will escape their slavery eventually, those people do not deserve this
Brainless fun can be the best type of fun sometimes especially if it's something like mindlessly rocket spamming a chokepoint in tf2, camping a corner in cod, that type of junk that's just fast food type fun. Is fun!!
People play video games for different reasons
And fun is also different for different people
I usually play games on easy modes because that’s fun to me
Some may prefer a more exhausting, cumbersome experience
Depends on the game
Depends on the mods too
Sometimes you want different experiences too
Which takes more skill on the part of devs
I don't get it but I don't put others down for it unless they're hate playing a game like bro. Turn the TV off!!
Games are so varied
If they're just queueing into matches despite being absolutely livid and hating the game I'm gonna make fun of them
It’s 99% slop but it justifies 1% peak like all other art
Online games are not the only games
Mya
But you can hate play a single player game out of habit too
I did that with minecraft for a while
spawning items or gain powers you are not supposed to - yes
QoL changes, various fixes - no
but yknow, with great power comes great responsibility
use mods wisely and don't ruin other people games it it's multiplayer
qol?
quality of life
oh ok
I used few user interface mods for payday 2 that gave me more info on skill cooldowns and other things
what's this
Arc raiders inventory space that I have
I like it
Runs well for a modern game (I have old laptop with 1650)
Plays well
Has skinshop tho
But you can get currency and other skins from battlepass stuff
(And I think that almost every skin in the shop is very ugly)
If your in a single player game, no, do whatever the fuck you want.
Multiplayer? Ehhh
Refer to the thing montag said
But remember
If its single player theres no such thing as cheating
oh i see
do yall grind or just cheat
i think personally drg is a journey so we should grind it out
i did cheat once in funny small men mine game to get the nuke
It depends actually
If a game is taking too long/doesn’t have good rewards for the efforts I’d rather cheat through
Im a pineapple
Oh fuck you windows
Im still on ten dont fucking
Force updates
Shitass
grind
depends on a gameplay, if repeating action fun in a long run why not grind stuff
if not, I just take essentials to progress and move on
personally, if a system is too grindy for my liking, its easier to cheese it and reduce the grind significantly then cheat in items personally. also i feel its more rewarding to cheese somthing you yourself noticed then actively just mod the game to get what you want
if its un-cheesable
eh,
havent run into that yet.
yeah, speaking about grinding
what u playn?
warframe
ah.
yeah, 200 hours of content and 1k hours of grinding
Warframe reminds me of Spiral Knights and I wish it still had most of its original studio
(And also wasn’t Pay to Win)
Warframe isn’t P2W
Oh no I meant Spiral Knights
You can just skip the grind in Warframe
You either sink like 3k hours or pay for progress
I’d count that as Pay 2 Win, just a paywall that could be avoided…
But Warframe content goes out to everyone it’s not a better experience for those who’ve payed
depends on what pay 2 win means
you can buy items for premium currency - platinum in warframe
also you can obtain premium currency by trading in game
If paying money gives a shortcut around or through 3k hours’ worth of grind,
What would that be called?
it ain't really, maybe you can cut 100 hours, but not 3k, no
I meant that as a literal question.
But also using this quote for reference.
idk, you won nothing in the end
in my opinion, when consitant progress cant be achieved with only 5-8 hours a week, while you can get 30 hours of grinding for 30 bucks, its P2W
now that progress doesnt have to be a lot
but it has to be meaningfull and materially measured.
the dev's literally refer to it as pay to skip
I am everyday thankful for genuine answers to my questions ouo
you can't buy ticket to end game content tho, it is a story game and you need to progress it
i wasnt saying warframe is or isnt. never played, never seen, no idea. just laying out my criteria.
since game is 12 years old, there are a lot of content to go through
but even if you cant skip certain stuff with money, if u can skip somthing else that takes 30 hours to get with money, its still P2W.
it doesnt all have to be skippable to be P2W. only some of it does.
Perhaps, just wonder against who you winning it aint race, time you gain gonna be spend in instagram or tiktok anyways
if steam OS kills windows and consoles, then we are on the right timeline
it probably won't happen, but a man can dream
the problem lies is what your doing and how you value it if you know what your doing you can gain 7 mr levels in less then a week but if you dont know what your doing it might take longer to under stand what your doing
when you defeat a boss, you win. when you get new, better gear, you "win"
Grind aside,
I’m otherwise indifferent to Warframe and wish I could get into it, but I don’t like the seeming average of gameplay, at least in way of the grind.
I'm surely donated to warframe when -75% discount showed on daily reward.
Wanna my meat robots look pretty
but never bought anything to p2w lol, just take it in the game and craft
8-5 hours of normal, non grindy gameplay, actually just playing the game and having fun.
8 hours a day can do a lot if you know what to work toward and what things can be worked toward at the same time
no, thats a WEEK.
that's sounds like a work schedule
the same thing still applies you will get somthing if you know what your doing
also including days off and week ends i doubt its only 8 hours a week
ok, 1 hour daily through week, 7 hours
is there any live service games where you could make a progress in 1 hour?
like it's 1-2 missions played and mimir
i can name multiple.
Sea of Thieves and Marvel Rivals (comp) come to mind.
Overwatch if you still have to unlock heroes.
helldivers, even. an hour can get you 10-20 medals easily on like diff 5-7.
doubt on SoT, but Rivals, could play a match or two in 1 hour, idk about progress made
thats progress.
There’s also Darktide before and after crafting got updated,
I will be honest about warframe. I played over like 4 to 8 years of warframe and never needed to spent money because prime junk used to worth alot and now worths nothing. Only game i brough microtransactions from and i did to get some super old prime weapons i always wanted
if thats how your valuing it, in an hour knowing what missions to do you could earn at least 50 plat with the possibility for much more if you find the right buyer
ok, warframe early game progression based on doing missions on planets, mission time goes from 5 to 20 minutes, depends on your swiftness and type of mission.
I’m counting progress as in things unlocked, or story unfolded,
Sea of Thieves having both, and the Hero Shooters having the former. Competitive rank is the biggest stretch in that definition though.
What is the main topic? We mentioned multiple games at once xD
your missunderstanding what i mean by "progress" i dont mean: have a new weapon, or like, be god, i mean as in you as a player feel like you have actually done somthing usefull with your time. and agaiN Im not attacking warframe, you dont need to defend it, im laying out my criteria, its fine, im not saying warframes P2W.
In sea of thieves i like that game gives same tools and you need to learn to do better instead
sea of theives, unlocking stuff fully depends on not getting absolutely trashed by other people
I dont enjoy skill based games but at least sea of thieves requires skill on technical knowledge as if you are real pirate now and know how to defend yourself and do voyages quick and do teamwork on naval warfare. Its immersive
don't need to defend yourself either, it's all fine, just trying to explain what warframe is
it is also a looter shooter, having good weapon and class surely goes into criteria of progress
depending on the game however, that can mean multiple things. but you really need to just play a game to figure it out
ok
Warframe never paywalled me for their stories or missions too
If this was bethesda or ea it would not be
im just glad were not talking about warthunder
If I played them I’d also confidently name WoW and FF14 as Live Service games that can potentially progress within an hour
Oh yeah also Spiral Knights.
the biggest thing to mention is the fact warframe has gotten atleast 7 dlc sized Free updates over the years
I used to play spiral knights alot. I were kicked from levels against baron because i was not using optimal weapons xD
the worst thing there is the launcher, its borderline malware
Wack
Dont get me wrong the other gamemode, random generated levels. Were full of chill people
The forbidden game?
Is it Live Service?
shallow pebble space? yeah, heard of it
by deffinition yes, not really the same as others tho
Hm.
You’d be including Payday 2, Left 4 Dead, and Lethal Company by proxy, then.
another thing to keep in mind is paid entry live service and free admission live service shouldn't be compared, if your paying up front for something it has no right to microtransactions where in a free game they need to keep the lights on and its a matter of how they do them not if they have them
yea i really like deepest boulder nebula.
no? maybe payday 2, thats live service, but left 4 Dead isnt supported anymore so isnt, and lethal company lacks the service part
DRG, payday 2, helldivers, all run servers and provide a LIVE, SERVICE, including with DRG: christmass events, seasons, etc. lethal company does not do that. lethal comp is Peer to peer, and doesnt get active service in the same way.
now tbf im 90% sure DRG can be run P2P too but i know servers exist.
Hmmmmmmmmm
How do you define “Live Service”?
I was defining it as a game that was actively ran on external servers, examples being MMOs.
I had thought DRG was primarily ran independently of any external servers, but I had also forgotten the matchmaking…
Something that Left 4 Dead 2 and Lethal Company provide, like Team Fortrss 2.
anything with seasons, or any form of dev server requirement can be classified as live so payday2 i dont belive falls in to this category any more and most of the matches are player hosted
Yeaaah, DRG to me lacks something like a communal lobby like Darktide does, so I didn’t personally count that as Live Service.
Esp since you can play that offline.
the only things that would make it so are the seasons and the synchronized challenges everyone has that would need to be pulled from some form of global database
I suppose, but the game at its core can be ran independently, right?
Like you can unlock everything (short of DLC) in DRG while offline?
imo "live service" means your getting service beyond content updates. active moderation, etc, but ALSO, have constant updates and ways to support the game post launch as the game constantly updates. it doesnt need a lobby, and honestly its a muddy as word that doesnt have clean definitions. its like the word "Microprocessor" it doesnt actually mean anything its just a fucking buzz word, like other non-words.
no. halloween cosmetics and event cosmetics.
Oh aye
I’d say the truest form of a Live Service game comes in the form of The Crew,
And that’s how I define “Live Service.”
also if you only ever played off line youd be locked out of several multiplay exclusive achevments if were counting those and there technicly on steam not the game its self
yea. back when i play that counted.
honestly best discription of my thoughts i could find so read up.
frequency
thats one thing.
frequency isnt that good of a definer because if a dev team had more money and people they could increase the frequency, additionally the frequency of helldivers updates it way lower then some non live service games
I’d say,
A “Live Service” game is one that exclusively runs on an active external server.
It can be actively updated with content, it can provide bonuses for those who use the service,
But if that server goes down, the game is no longer playable. The service ends.
If the game can be played independent of any Live Service, I do not count it as a Live Service game.
mmmmmm i wouldnt say that. there updates just focus diff.
So stuff like Halo 3 Multiplayer, Fallout 76, that one Marvel MMO, anything that requires a sign-in before launching or letting you in the game,
If it is not hosted independently, it is a service being actively provided.
with that definition how do you count all the games that run off valves matchmaking servers, the devs have long abandoned them but valve persists so the games still run
those games can be run P2P or on comunity serves however.
so no
it actually wouldnt.
im fairly certain there's a few with out dedicated server or p2p that still use valve servers
might take a while to find if i need to look
"without" doesnt mean it cant be done. most games done by valve have that server software public. people may just not like playing enough to bother.
The service would be the multiplayer matchmaking, I’d think.
If the whole thing is FUCKED because the service is inactive, like The Crew, LEGO Universe, Fusionfall, or original Club Penguin (without excessive chicanery),
As in, you cannot play this even individually
That’s a Live Service game to me.
especially since valve servers are still up.
if your counting community projects the definition breaks because hawken is a mmo that died but loyal fans have reverse engineered the servers and brought it back from death with zero involvment from the devs
the diffrence is that wasnt somthing provided to them by the company, that was the consumer actively reverse engineering it.
valves games are DESIGNED to have comunity servers to run it if everything goes to shit at valve
Doing that sort of reverse engineering would make that service Live again basically
Just not a service provided by the original owners.
DESIGN is the driving factor.
but my point was theres thousands of games that use the steamworks api for server connection that have died the service was never provided by the original owners and so it persists long after them
but, it wasnt designed to persist.
it didnt have a safegaurd
it was brought back through sheer will.
actually wait no i realise what ur saying, that P2P buddy.
the peer to peer just runs through another server to authenticate it
thats what steamworks API does, it can be done through anything
its really not peer to peer, the only big game to have proper peer to peer from what i recall is gta5
with what you have told me your talking about steam API authenticating connections to comunity servers or P2P. steam itself has never ran a server for a video game that wasnt valve's.
also fun fact: Helldivers is P2P. servers only for the microtransactions and shit.
but either way it still requires a provided service and wont function with out, so it dosn't fully fit in this definition
and authenticating data
no, it can, its just easier not to as running direct P2P connections is difficult.
again its not true p2p, helldivers does have a host, its just one of the players
I think the distinction of what is or isn’t a Live Service game must be a theme that runs all the way down.
If the active maintaining part is only for the Multiplayer, but can still be played Singleplayer, it’s still a Live Service, just not a Live Service Game.
I think that counts even if you can still play a Multiplayer game on Singleplayer - like TF2 and there’s no one home.
If you can’t play Singleplayer or Multiplayer past expiry, that’s a Live Service Game.
that- thats the deff of peer to peer. a player, is hosting the game. not the company on an external server
literaly
P2P.
I’m also a little bit lost and sleeby
its not, a true peer to peer game like in gta5 is every connected device is a host and the processing power is divided among them, this is why in gta5 if you have a poor computer or poor internet it can and will start to effect the world for other people, if lag just effects your self its hosted, if your lag starts to unravel the world that is proper peer to peer
no, P2P literaly ONLY means that the service is running/being hosted by atleast one player. what your describing is a version of P2P, but a player hosting a match while playing at the same time on the same program is P2P as well, even if they bear the entire processing log. P2P only, ONLY describes the fact no external servers without a client are involved in hosting the game.
if i host and play a game through the same client and people join me
it counts as P2P too.
Minecraft with built in P2P would be both awesome and potentially a privacy nightmare lol
IN GAMING, ok dont go into "oh but in networking-" i know but in gaming termonology its "peer to peer"
thats what lan is and what that uh, one multiplayer mod does
the one with E
E2MC and Essential
yep
No but I mean like opening your Minecraft to the public console edition style
But if the host is a malicious modder they could potentially just yoink the IP addresses of whoever joins the world they’re hosting lol
it is by definition not, peer to peer means every connected device is equal, just because people built self hosting systems and named it peer to peer doesn't change the fact it is barrowing the name sake of the past while being completely different
no, because ur hosting on the same client as you play on, and any client can host, its P2P.
I think this conversation’s going into semantic circles territory
I wanna pull this flavor of the mid 2000s into our time again and see what happens
what even
Do you remember this aesthetic?
I half rember :]
the big definition point is every peer in a peer to peer system has the equilivient of admin privileges' this is why lag in gta5 can literally unravel the npc's and why hacking is so easy, on the newer"p2p" one player is a host and their device holds that power this is why scripted mods in these games are only needed by the host
i wasn't alive
Darn
self hosted server: you run the server on a seperate instance, it isnt the same client, when you connect to it from ur client on the same device you still have to directly connect and the SERVER application does the work. other people then connect to that server application. the client NEVER can host a game by itself. for example, take a self hosted minecraft server.
P2P: the client and server are the same application. when you host a game, you dont need to connect your own client to ur own server as they are the same. other clients connect to your client. now, some games share your computing load, some have one as a dedicated "host" but because the client and the server are the same, its peer to peer.
also: no, many games your claiming as "self hosted" dont only need scripted mods by the host, because its a peer to peer connection that host does generate and run the level, yes, but the other clients are still responsible for a lot of stuff.
damn, early 2000th was great, stalker released, gothic, morrowind
i literaly couldnt talk yet.
I think I was single digits around that time too…
But still double digits enough to know of it
I decided to skip that year
I want the striped handsock things
also your role as host isnt permenate, it changes, cause YOUR not a central server, games dont need to run through you, as its a P2P connection.
anyway
We should resurrect that year into our next one
TRUE
wheres my video of a wizard yelling gay
here: explaining diff types of P2P
with one being a "host" its a structured P2P
the biggest difference here that divided these two types of p2p is true p2p doesn't care is any player leaves on the newer type if the host loses connection for whatever reason, the whole game server dies, where true p2p only dies when the last player leaves
but anyway i have completly forgoten what got us on the argument about p2p
there BOTH TRUE P2P, THEY BOTH USE P2P NETWORKING STRUCTURES, ITS JUST SOME ARE STRUCTURED DIFFRENTLY!
Spiral Knights :3
the diffrene isnt "true P2P" and "fake p2p" its structured and unstructured
how can a later design that goes against the entire design of the original and only keeps the name still be true
because its not.
your not understanding what P2P actually means.
this is like if i started selling a smart phone and called it an iphone it would have no justification being called equal with the iphones apple sells
a client being the host for a server client system dose not make it a peer to peer system
no, no its like if you said an iphones not a smart phone cause its made by apple, your misunderstanding what P2P actually means for a network im trying to explain it, and you keep ignoring me.
lets stop
im not fucking
guh
im not willing to get actually frustrated over this
so please
lets just
stop
we can stop, and i do know what it meant originally its not my fault they've decided to expand the definition
Remember i were debated about quality not matters anymore? Its seems i was wrong. Only the newest tech promises use of ai to try to trick people into buying their stuff. Every newer mechanical parts or tools make previous ones obselete when has better performance. Its just that corporations increase price tag and reduce quality at same time and expect us to not notice
I didnt meant politics just want to clarify that i was wrong
hold on ive figured out how i might be able to explain it:
even when one computer is "hosting" the game level, all clients DO have admin accses and can send packets of info between eachother, they are indeed on a peer to peer conection. however, spreading out somthing like the generation of a level or whatever is dificult coding wise, so the P2P network splits those dutys up. the "host" gets the role of a normal server, minus keeping the clients in check. the "clients" keep track of that player, and report that info to the host. its a P2P connection, with added code to make it more stable
some soup recipes have prunes, probably would look dark purple tho
does that finaly make sense?
some connections do indeed make the "host" keep the client in check, but the "host" isnt the one making all the decisions.
so like
most of that varied per game, like map data and randomness in helldivers is done by a seed that is hidden and created by the devs server
thats why i said it the P2P connection is during gameplay, the store, one or two little things, run through a dedicated server too.
but the host creates the level with the seed from the dev server itself
look helldivers one was just a fun fact its only partial P2P, you know whats full P2P? DRG.
Hmm, perhapss,
A friend who is more grounded in nature (they live on the fringes of actual civilization and wrangle geese daily) told me that Blue is Not a natural color in the world of natural food.
hold on where u confused cause u thought i was using helldivers as an example?
no
helldivers has some aspects go thru P2P connection while others go thru a central server,
that really depends where you live
like
the world isnt uniform
idk, I think if you add plums to soup all just will be looking like a dark brown mush
to make bright blue, yeah, impossible ig
Basically this
Some soups can be made with soap, perhaps
most places blue is uncommon and rare. i know there are a few where blue flowers get eaten and stuff tho. also obvs ocean-life has a bit of blue.
this entire argument derived from live service games, but im not sure where we diverted from defining what live service is to a war over traditional and modern networking architecture
cause i was getting frustrated cause it felt you werent even paying attention to what i was saying.
not saying that was actually the case
but it felt like it.
Blue flowers ye,
But like
Soups don’t typically use ingredients that are this shade of light blue
ima be 100% honest, i see that as pink.
Hm.
Colorblind?
yes but red-green so that isnt the cause.
Hm.
I have an idea: Its an aronia fruit, blue small fruits used as medicine, found in africa i think. Its blue when you squish the fruit
Or its blue just because they wanted to make it blue with no context xD
Is possible
But it’s also possible that Big D is straight up drinking soap soup
blue fish, stocks, also could be natural food colourings (as in flowers or substences found in nature)
Is it from one of their youtube videos or is there is an video game now?
Most recent Bruva Alfabusa video
Speech bubble made me assume its an video game xD
I don’t know of many fish that are blue on the inside…
Earlier they changed the audio log designs so it does look a little like a visual novel heehee
dont need to. use the skin to make a stock or powder them into the soup MIGHT do the trick.
its possible the blue is suppose to just be stylized water
Huh. Wack.
Ok that makes sense
Its got suds
It’s also Big D from Ogre Poppenang’s “Hunter: The Parenting”
There is no way it’s normal water that is not as good as his quote unquote “ippswich ham” that I think he ON SCREEN SWALLOWED HOLE like a SNAKE
(if the soup ur making is at any way basic (as in the chem term) the red from cabbage will turn blue)
also blue mushrooms.
normal water can bubble not to that extent, dont usualy last that long, but there is definitely something else in the water as you can see something sticking out on the left side
Cabbagggggge…bluuuuuueee…..not sure about thattttt.
ive seen it happen in chem classes.
blue potato tho
or purple
idk
blue-adjacent potato
Hum
Wack
Indigo colored tater
only thing that could make it bubble that much is
oh
Also
I wanna shove my head into a bowl of shredded mozzarella
Who knows what I'm going to do next
In that same video appears a poor lady carrying a bucket of cheeeeeeeese……..
I had those before in my garden, and ate them too. for some reason in turkish we call them "siyah patates" (black potatoes)
ooo cool
Well... mine was dark blue and very darkish blue count as black? Turkish does do that, also we call purple version of cabbage as "kızıl" which crimson depsite its obviously purple
probs named before the colour "purple" was invented
as in
the word
Yeah, I got that
:P
We also call black apples blue apples so its exact inverted version
I dunno why people call colours wrong on fruits
i mean black lights also shine blue so its not that uncommon
Yeah, no inventors were colour-blind
There is blue banana but its just yellow with green tint on it
And nobody told them that
i can say my oranges look closer to the "tangerine"
no idea what bloody, light oranges you all have
Color names are weird
the color or the fruit
All i know is in turkish purple and crimson are mixed and black with blue are mixed but i guess fruits and veggies are not directly blue or crimson so they name that way
fruit
Who the hell named something crimson and not even red
is it possible it was a language barrier issue or just a case like the Egyptian cat
We should find out who did this and fix it
Well, we also use word "kızıl" on orange haired people but there are no orange cabbages. I guess there is no logic behind name of colours in turkish.
In here calling someones hair colour is not an insult.
well calling some one blond has become some what of an insult
i couldn't help but over hear that the word cheese was mentioned, especially mozzarella, as it so happens to be i love mozzarella that i have dedicated a list of the finest fresh mozzarellas. to satiate any hunger for this fascinating dairy product
here is a list of a the Freshest Mozzarella one could obtain
Fresh mozzarella is a soft, high-moisture cheese with a tender texture and mild flavor. It is packed in liquid (brine or whey) and has a short shelf life.
Mozzarella di Bufala Campana (Buffalo Mozzarella): Considered the original and most prized form, this cheese is made from the milk of the Italian water buffalo, primarily in the Campania region. It has a richer, creamier texture and a distinct, slightly tangy or gamey flavor compared to cow's milk varieties. It is best used uncooked in salads like a Caprese salad, with the cheese being the star ingredient.
Fior di Latte (Cow's Milk Mozzarella): Often simply called "fresh mozzarella" in stores, this version is made from cow's milk. It is softer than the low-moisture block type, with a milder, more neutral flavor. It comes in various sizes, from large balls to small bocconcini (egg-sized), ciliegine (cherry-sized), and perline (pearl-sized). While it can be used on pizza, its high moisture content means it may release water, so it is often blotted dry first.
Burrata: This is essentially a fresh mozzarella shell filled with stracciatella (shreds of mozzarella mixed with fresh cream). When cut open, the rich, creamy center spills out. It is considered a luxurious and decadent cheese, best served fresh and at room temperature with simple accompaniments like bread and tomatoes.
Scamorza: This is a stretched-curd cheese similar to mozzarella but is drier and aged for a couple of weeks. It often has a pear shape because it is hung by a string during aging. A smoked version is also popular, offering a distinct, pungent flavor.
Mozzarella di bufala is great for Mozzarella en carrozza
Just remembered that and ginger, yeah
Which are stupid things to even insult somebody for
In akseki, our famous cavern cheese. I like how this image gives vibes of an cave dungeon in skyrim that there is so many bags of random veggies and cheese lying around xD
Dont let its visual fool you, its very soft and juicy and cold
I can imagine how cold it is to come from a cave
Nomads have no fridges or electricity to begin with so using snowly hills or caves as fridge is working
what is the average time they age for
I dunno i never made it myself i just brough it
I should ask them next year i meet them
i wouldnt be surpised if they keep that sort of stuff a secret, as its most likely been perfected to their preference over decades
This image tells everythings as an Yörük, caves and goats everywhere. Caves are home and goats are our only viable source of income and food. No rides you just traverse mountains on foot
I mean obviously they dont sleep inside the cave but its an place of storage while circling around the mountain
What are those called in english? Its an hybrid of an horse and an donkey. Its larger then an donkey.
Some people have those instead of traversin on foot
Image is not related our village. Its quicksearch of the animal
im not sure i was under the impression that the donkey is already a hybrid creature
nevermind im thinking of mules, i thought donkey and mules were the same
So those called mules?
i believe so ive never seen them in person
Some pictures of yörüks. it may look simple but to my eyes these looks extremely familiar. most of villagers are like this.
I do born in an city but i visit villages of yörüks yearly in summer
My phone charge is dying. I may wont able to see if you are typing an response
It's the result of a male donkey and a female horse
so it has the stamina of a donkey, and the calmer nature of a horse

I hope delayed attacks drown in a river and never resurface
Never had it but my most hated cheese is whatever that liquid at room temperature shit is
Like you cut into the wheel and it oozes out
whey?
I alway noticed the lava enemy looking so different compared to others enemies... but never noticed the othets enemies had different style too
I wan meatballs
bms is uh
how do I explain
you know rhythm games? like where you smash your keyboards with the music
yeah
bms is like a set of the music, chart, and the background animation bundled together
ah gotcha
cosmo was a rising star even on that field years ago
just saying but
I probably can contact cosmo if I really want
Nah, i wouldnt go that far lmao
So I assume he was kinda like what pluffaduff or ExileLord is to Clone Hero
A name basically everyone knows in that community
hes quite big when he has his own wiki page
oh damn nice
but yeah dataerr0r is probably his largest hit
iconic
won the BOFU 2015
peak artcore
other than that I also like https://youtu.be/3cO3h9eGmQk
This is breakcore, right? Ive heard of this before
he has a lot of confortable genres he can pump out of
been an all rounder for a while
That song genuinely feels like its not just a song, its an entire character's soul on display
Cosmo captured Red Hood's entire personality and being in that song
That one has feat. Nien, I assume theyve worked together for a while
Since Nien's done some tracks for Nikke as well
nien is also insane
every time he brings out his iconic guitar
you know the song is fire
If youll forgive the dated reference
nice
oh wait a second, Cosmo isnt just doing music for Nikke, He's the damn SOUND DIRECTOR.
has nien in it
I was there at the concert so
was insane
ngl, I do not have the social battery to go to an event like that lmao. Im not a total introvert, but I prefer to be by myself lol
Sounds lit af tho
Im also an insane introvert but worth the invest
esp for the ip Ive been following for many years
getting to look at the artists Ive supported though the hard times in person
To the volcano for decade old humour with thee
insane feeling
I could only post the web link it would not let me post the image of the video
't was a jest
K
My bad
Im at my dad's doing body work on his 1957 truck
My hands are filthy like I was in the caves of deep rock mining almost
the timeless interrupted scream
game is scary af, so if I'm without a shotgun I just hide and wait till everyone do the gathering
i killed michael jackson with a frying pan
Peoples noticed a AI image on Anno 117 and dev said it was a placeholder they forgot to change
Hm...
More like "Oh shit, they noticed we used AI, change it and say a lie"
the robe? I'm new to the game still
tried pan, but liked baseball bat more or sword, swings fast
no its that one tall dude with big hands
idk what its actually called
also my friends took all the cool weapons
Buh
mfw the seasoned player friend take all buffs, weapons
and dies first
happens
Ice Worms are weird. Imagine an worm able to dig snow and ice, to eat specific algea in snow and ice. While snow is pale white, ice worms has jet black colour so they have exact opposite of camoflage, also depsite it lives literally in ice, it has no cold resistance so it just dies to cold regularly. Its like only good thing it does is to dig ice and thats it.
ice worm from subnautica
many such cases
and then none of us can lift heavy objects
This thing. Its super small.
The caves of... what, exactly?
well its just mining rock that is deep

