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[long ember]

Not really, it seems like there's still alot of people liking it here

DRG has been ongoing for like 8 years now, and I think there's already enough content for that game alone. Im not sure if your star wars comparison is even remotely close to the current situation considering both of these games are still going updates alongside each other.

[pearl lava]

i like the round robin mechanic but some people are just hostage holding

and in the elevator screen one can just not press ready for ever what's up with that

[ocean rain]

its still the same game, and since i bought it out of testing why not be able to keep the progress, we never got extra exp to progress faster

[gritty ridge]

had one guy go to make himself dinner in one of the ready up screens once

[hollow bear]

you have the advantage of early knowledge

[tacit urchin]

Omg

[pearl lava]

that sounds awesome

[sacred rampart]

Thats why you dont play alpha

[brittle quail]

Bro i have +25% ammo upgrade and blue minigun, ts is 9k bullets and I just used like 30% ammo during an entire floor, its busted, the only downside is the damage is kinda low

[snow plume]

the people that dont like the timer just dont get it

[hexed finch]

Its because its a pretty lazy way to add difficulty thats why its fine for now but would like to see something more intresting in the future

[twilit kelp]

Still gotta love losing runs because people do events during an already active swarm

Legit has killed too many of my runs now

[snow plume]

hard disagree

[tender parrot]

crazy glaze

[distant tundra]

The time limit is fair for the game it’s a decent amount of time where sometimes it hurts but it keeps the game moving and intense

[snow plume]

you are a swat team of dwarf on a time limit, you arent on a stroll in the park. you gotta move

[winged panther]

i can't seem to locate the status effects i'm trying to identify in the handbook https://i.imgur.com/QpCUrQW.jpeg

[gritty ridge]

doing events during swarms is borderline necessary at depth 4 but its definitely a bit foolish if people are just hitting the button whenever in an uncoordinated team
also transmutator gets you more expenite if you can do it in the middle of a wave 😃

[mystic forge]

drg modded chat is genuinely completely dead holy schwap 😭

[twilit kelp]

There's so many roguelikes that have a timer and are considered like S tier roguelikes, the presence of a timer doesn't make the game trash lmao

[hexed finch]

Doing events at all is a waste of time they are completely useless

[hollow bear]

is that frenzy artifact? cant remember by the logo

[gritty ridge]

thats from slicer biobooster deck i think
extra damage for a while on kill

[hexed sundial]

Is there a place where I can upload clips of rogue core too?

[dusty echo]

I hate stacking swarms
I hate that I gotta wait for the swarm to come, deal with that, THEN leave. (Causing another swarm, obviously)

[distant tundra]

The expedite is very important actually

[mossy ruin]

wasn't the frenzy icon yellow?

[gritty ridge]

epic alpha bug for a while is the game would randomly spawn extra copies of swarms so you would suddenly have 4x swarms for no reason

[hollow bear]

might be. pretty sure they have the same icon but diff colors

[jaunty star]

Why the elevator music was removed from the transition screen bru

[snow plume]

crazy bait. bait use to be believable

[twilit kelp]

The problem is, people do these events when we're already having major trouble with killing things and surviving

Last run we lost cause some idiot did the event when I told them we didn't have enough time, believe it or not, we didn't have enough time

[shy prism]

What do the platforms with the button on that says "Raise barriers" do? I can't interact with them.

[chilly bison]

Huh, I think I just had a boss kill itself.

[winged panther]

i did take that, that must be it. ty 🙂

[mossy ruin]

yeah, gotoorak does that sometimes

[hollow bear]

im gonna guess it's Seeing Red if it's the slicer deck. which would be : Killing an enemy gives you +30% damage for 2 seconds

[oblique elk]

I lowkey be forgetting abt my abilities

[gritty ridge]

yeah it takes a while before people can realise that you just gotta skip events if its too late

[earnest jay]

@hollow bear what was the meta in alpha for dealing with swarms? I feel like I run out of ammo so often

[odd moss]

I got 2 disposable sentries as retcon. Im the engineer, and im going to use more gun

[chilly bison]

Odd thing is that when it did that it just died with a riftstone left.

[twilit kelp]

It's insane, because we legit did not even benefit from the event, I survived solo and couldn't get the other 3 up in the next layer lmao

[distant tundra]

I just am to worried to use them cuz I could use them at the wrong time

[snow plume]

some people really be in here like "i wish it was more like DRG, i know that game"

[dreamy oxide]

I despise the perk negotiation system
Like actually

[long ember]

The sooner people realize you can just bring the molly drome to the front instead forcing the entire team to backtrack to huddle the expenite upgrade the better

[hollow bear]

Lead bursters lol. the Boom You're Dead *one where enemies explode where they die (still meta)

[snow plume]

the devs sure have a hill to climb, hope they stick to their vision

[verbal tusk]

Or take upgrades at a time when you'd already have downtime, like an elevator.

[mossy ruin]

the one which spreads fire upon hitting burning targets also sweeps
but requires more buildup than boom you're dead

[earnest jay]

Oh the boom upgrade? I forgot whether it was a generic upgrade or guardians

[dusty trench]

I really dislike I cant bin weapons once I have them as I tend to like to invest in one single weapon once I find one I like but having a second one with it gives me an ammo penalty and id rather being able to get rid of the second weapon entirely without replacing it

[hollow bear]

yeah there's a fire trio that's just madness with the incendiary grenade.

[distant tundra]

Does the explosion hurt your self?

[warped mirage]

imo the biggest problem is the lackluster upgrades (also not a fan of just stat boosts, theres no fun in that), not the timer, ammo eco

[snow plume]

this i will agree with

[mossy ruin]

so don't take the second weapon?

[hollow bear]

afaik neither Boom you're dead nor Ticking Bomb do ff

[winged blaze]

I swear, the Breacher from DRG: Rogue Core wearing the Breacher Helmet is a spitting image of the Nightwatcher (Raphael) from the 2007 TMNT movie! That angular, iron-jawed visor and the glowing round lenses are 100% Raph's badass vigilant armor. The devs must be huge TMNT fans, this stealth ninja cosplay looks incredibly tough! 🐢🔥

[dusty trench]

then im only locked to the 3 weapon selections at the start which is incredibly limiting

[gritty ridge]

devs had said they really want to start adding more upgrades once the start of early access has passed
excited to see upgrades for more elements like radiation and corrosion (which currently have nothing)

[verbal tusk]

Yeah, generic stat boost in low tiers is rough, you roll like one epic/legendary that fundamentally changes how you play your build...and only one person can take it. Maybe this evens out in 5-6 stage runs

[hollow bear]

just an uncommon/green expenite upgrade. easy to come by

[distant tundra]

I usually don’t take more weapon’s and just spam the ranged slice attack buff

[hollow bear]

if you're playing falconer and need aoe, just take chain lightning and it's gg

[earnest jay]

Does guardian's aoe bio booster upgrades affect the aoe of the explosions?

[winged panther]

just get it lol

[shy river]

Do I suck at this game or do yall find it pretty difficult as well.... could be both hahaha

[mossy ruin]

it should

[coarse nimbus]

One game gets one off yearly updates and things players have been begging for, since I started playing in 2020, are now in rogue core and still arent in thw flagship title.

I was kind of hoping picking this up and playing it would make me relieved this is why they switched to yearly seasons rather than a new one every 6 months. I see all the guns and items and classes. This all would have been amazing additions to DRG.

But this roguelite system is super toxic and completely against the fundamentals of drg. I am very disappointed this is what I waited years for, while watching one of my favorite games feel like its slowly suffocating.

[mossy ruin]

depth 3-4 are pretty difficult
especially if you don't put together a decent build

[winged panther]

ya it's challenging but it seems like there's a decent skill ceiling, so it'll get easier 🙂‍↕️

[hexed finch]

Or if you just dont get the rng

[shy river]

I mean I guess I dont have anything unlocked either sooo....

[long ember]

Falconer + ability recharge + chain lightning is enough for a falconeer build :sip:

[mossy ruin]

that's also true

[nimble rose]

well I just go slasher and full melee build
just pickaxing the enemies to death

while applying stuns and recharging my slash :D

[shy river]

Havent even seen chain lightning yet

[still dagger]

Oh the game is pretty hard but that's why I'm determined to get better at it

[hollow bear]

i couldnt remember exactly so i talked with pounce. we're under the impression it doesn't since it's technically the enemy causing it when it dies

[long ember]

Chain lightning is a bio booster i think?

[shy river]

Yeah better for it to be hard then too easy

[long ember]

So get those

[mystic wind]

anyone down to play i js downloaded the game

[shy river]

Sweet thanks for the tip

[hollow bear]

there's some funky requirement with that AOE card set and I think it's dependent on how the AOE is activated

[earnest jay]

There's an aoe card set?

[lapis fox]

I havent played with other people yet whats the issue with the upgrades in the steam blogpost? Like whats being addressed

[hollow bear]

the card in the devastation set

[earnest jay]

Is that behind ascension stuff 😭

[hollow bear]

nah its just guardians second deck

[lapis fox]

To put the deck on someone else yeah

[median mica]

does joining discord give merits, or still no?

[earnest jay]

Wait they're active by default?

[brittle quail]

I just ascended guys that animation was actual cinema

[nimble rose]

I didnt get them

[earnest jay]

Bugged atm

[spare birch]

i love randoms that refuse to grab upgrades and then die

[median mica]

roguelite without upgrades

[gritty ridge]

the cards you get at the biobooster are randomly selected from your current decks

[earnest jay]

Ohh I didn't know that, damn

[median mica]

when u ascend a character u can use bioboosters from other ascended classes, so u need at least 2 basically

[earnest jay]

Are there any cards that don't interact with the other classes?

[median mica]

I have no clue
I am a greenbeard still xD

[gritty ridge]

no but you might have a hard time getting electricity to proc like falconers deck without the falcon

[hollow bear]

wiki might say. i didn't piddle around with them much after ascending near the end of alpha

[oblique elk]

is the friendly fire higher or smth

[junior linden]

the flying boss is so annoying and unfun to battle against holy hell

[gritty ridge]

i of course tried running falconer electric deck on spotter anyway and it was pretty good so long as i could find a source of electricity

[daring hill]

Its weakpoint hitbox is WAY too small, I always end up hitting the armor

[verbal tusk]

We're all greenbeards again with this one (we dyed our beards green to prove that we don't look like a dirt block)

[slate crane]

Well.. not fun is the sum up from my games.
Runs... oddly though. 90fps but only 50% GPU utilization /shrug

[junior linden]

YEAH TRUE

[odd moss]

Friggin devs put a limit on sentries

[blissful slate]

darn game crashed on final stage :/

[gritty ridge]

im pretty sure its lower but depending on teammates build they might be doing very large damage numbers

[median mica]

happened to me once as well 🙁

[gritty ridge]

sorry to that one dwarf who walked in front of my bulldog and got domed rest in peace

[verbal tusk]

Iirc friendly fire% is lower to account for the fact that some things can stack much higher damage.

[empty pine]

Yall think we'll get weapons skins and paintjpbs ?

[warped mirage]

why cant i post screenshots in rc-bug-discussion

[gritty ridge]

i think there might be internal systems for weapon skins given that one of the alpha updates just gave new paintjobs to like every gun but we'll have to see

[verbal tusk]

Doubtful, at least for a while. You could trick out your weapon, then go several runs without being offered that weapon.

[wheat dust]

Fucking hell RC is fun acidently got 11h in 2 days ;-;

[oblique elk]

we happy few pfp holy peak

[earnest rain]

what is the aniquilation damage?

[abstract belfry]

Pause your game. GPU will have a heart attack.

[unreal kayak]

I pray they make the spawn weapon selection not a competitive selection. It's so sad to see the last 2 guns be the double barrel and smg and watch the fourth player quit immediately.

[hexed finch]

I mean all of my friends that too lol

[gritty ridge]

the smg is the goat though

[abstract belfry]

They could swap at the workbench but nooooooo

[formal magnet]

you need a role first scroll to the top of the channel list

[wheat dust]

I will say the difficuty was unexpected

[warped mirage]

yup just figured that out, thanks

[oblique elk]

core spawn glyphid mutation when

[wheat dust]

i got upercuted hard trying to play lvl 1 guardian on d2

[gentle zephyr]

sadly i have a damn job otherwise id have like 30h already lowkey (probably all solo) (none of my friends have gotten it yet)

[abstract belfry]

Hey they got a game for that, it just came out yesterday

[oblique elk]

i think.... i miss my 8 legged bugs

[abstract belfry]

Does he know

[earnest jay]

@gritty ridge what do you think is the best crit weapon btw?

[wheat dust]

Yup i got exams and classes smh but ay i unlocked d3 so there is something to look twords tmrw

[oblique elk]

i wonder if the devs plan to make d-10

[merry mural]

All corespawn have eight legs if you're drunk enough

[gentle zephyr]

d-100

[latent owl]

so, i'm obviously in the drg server, but the 'join our discord server' isn't giving me my 500 merits. i'm on linux if that matters - i previously linked my schitt for drg's union chapters ages ago, so idk what the hangup is

[cyan glen]

I've been so excited to play this game. Did three runs and went to bed. Just woke up 6 hours later and THE BOYS ARE STILL GOING

[bright wren]

Guys sorry if not on a right topic, but i have a very uncomfortable tech issue
4080 ryzen 7700x 32 gb ram and a have a massive fps drop from 200 to 70 in fights, w/ dlss without its doesnt matter do not know what can i do kinda

[river whale]

I had an awesome run with the stubby earlier that let me inflict fire and freeze with it (217K damage on depth 2). I lost against the boss since I had basically no sustain and elements seem less effective against them compared to raw damage, but it was close. Stubby can be awesome now if you can add other forms of elemental damage to it

[gritty ridge]

bulldog my goat
but basically anything that isnt the stubby (low base damage as tradeoff for electricity) or the cadna (slow projectiles) can do great

[formal magnet]

Stubby users when they can finally use a gun that does more than 9 base damage

[night jasper]

cadna the one that shoots the shield projectiles?

[pale rain]

sup

[earnest jay]

Won't precision weapons be better for crit like m1k or the charge up pistol?

[river whale]

This is stubby slander (the stubby is mid-garbage in like 85% of circumstances)

[night jasper]

cadna is the goat for keeping elevator engine clear

[formal magnet]

should've pinged me earlier almost midnight 🥀

[dreamy oxide]

Any tips for playing Retcon?

[gritty ridge]

crit doesnt necessarily align with weakpoint build but they do overlap at parts
bulldog is kinda sick because it does overlap with weakpoint and it also overlaps with reload build very well for reloading trick and repositioning and oozing reload

[pale rain]

son 😭

[formal magnet]

Stubby is lucky that the Devestator exists, only thing saving it from the worst gun

[earnest jay]

I thought they'd align since you stack multipliers

[unreal kayak]

I'm not shitting on any gun just that people get very mad very fast if they get left with scraps at the start and just quit and rematch for better rolls.

[halcyon wing]

how do u get the points for being on discord?

[spark relic]

Real quick - is there a hoop equivalent to take off the beer drowsiness or do you HAVE to order LLS to take it off?

[gritty ridge]

(also the m1000 doesnt have a weakpoint bonus)

[waxen hamlet]

Hammercaster my beloved. Shame it has terrible ammo economy.

[earnest jay]

Do we have a tier list of trash guns yet

[desert cedar]

I have a question, I saw a machine and activating it said something about putting weight in a pressure plate, but I don't seem to understand what to do exactly? Idk if I'm stupid or I have to search for something that doesn't appear in my terrain scanner

[neat robin]

in my humble opinion after multiple hours of playing the early access. There is a major design flaw. Where are the barrels to kick aroud??? Immersion ruined smh my head how can you be a dwarf and not have barrels to kick

[latent owl]

high-ammo weps synergize better with the primary ability, otherwise it seems kinda like the 'drg veteran' class to me cus you kinda just pop rage when there's a swarm + one of your skills is just, iron will

[river whale]

Yeah, for sure. I don't think the starter weapon is too big a deal, though, since you have a chance at a better one at the next workbench

[formal magnet]

We're not allowed to send them for some reason there were a bunch made in the Alpha

[pale rain]

devastator, stubby, lark

[hollow bear]

there's a cart with barrels nearby. you gotta chuck the barrels onto the plate and watch the scale go up

[desert cedar]

How does it look

[dreamy oxide]

Thank you!

[waxen hamlet]

Stubby with fire did alright for me.

[earnest jay]

Lark is which one

[tacit urchin]

Would result in fighting and etc

[gritty ridge]

m1000 is maybe still a bit ass but once you get used to autoaim it can be kinda slick
there was a bug for ages where your recoil would slowly but exponentially increase every time you charge shot which was very funny but also made the gun kinda unusable and it still sort of has that stigma with it

[untold basalt]

I got Underhill and tried to do the workouts and it looks goofy as shit lmao

[hollow bear]

like a futuristic pushcart with heavy duty barrels all over the place. like it crashed when an idiot employee goofed up

[latent owl]

BRT has sad ammo economy like it does in drg, imo, the ricochet stuff is nice but i found it to be rather un-fun / i got screwed on upgrade rolls

[formal magnet]

that's an issue of that person not of the general group, I think I miss my RC tierlists

[gentle zephyr]

yo this sounds incredibly funny i need this as a mod in drg

[earnest jay]

I haven't even seen brt yet tbh

[desert cedar]

Does it have legs or sum, I know this may sound idiotic but I'm really confused

[river whale]

I really hope we get some kind of resource we can collect to use for rerolls. I feel like it'd fit the game really well and serve to mitigate the pure RNG that it has right now. That and maybe an upgrade transmuter that can change one upgrade into a selection of 3 new ones

[formal magnet]

I like the M1000 without it a lot more, but I am pretty good at aiming so that helps. I find the auto aim super jaring and it makes it harder to single out certain enemies in groups

[earnest jay]

Oh

[verbal tusk]

I'm gonna have to get used to playing brt straight, I only use it for lead spray in DRG. Run in, mag dump for stupid damage, dash out.

[gritty ridge]

devs add shrine of order from risk of rain 2 nothing will go wrong trust me

[tacit urchin]

Nah it was based on previous interactions

[hollow bear]

if you press escape, top left, reclaimer handbook. go down to the expenite events section and look for Cargo Hauling

[static sable]

Sheesh I hate to say this but retcon and falconer need a nerf

[river whale]

BRT has great DPS, but isn't very suitable for a main weapon due to its poor ammo economy

[strong salmon]

Suggestion: Make it so revive progress is saved if reviving is interrupted, so if you revive someone 50%, you can come back and you only have to fill out the other 50% of the bar

[odd moss]

Hemoforge my beloved

[cobalt wolf]

I'll be honest I just wanna check in with people are you enjoying the game rn? I feel like I want to so bad but it's making me itchy in it's current state I might have to take a break while they fix all of ya'lls feedback

[formal magnet]

the wiki has images of every event if it helps

[desert cedar]

Thanks

[earnest jay]

Half the guns feel like they have poor ammo econ to me lol

[river whale]

But... But girl power... 😭

[gritty ridge]

use yo pickaxe more if you're running out of ammo

[hollow bear]

no prob, good luck. you can get on the scale around 90ish percent and your dwarf will weigh enough. enemies also count for weight, so do with that what you will

[warped mirage]

ive found that in the current state of stat boost upgrades, high fire rate weapons are pretty overtuned compared to other builds, since a lot of upgrades are double hitting weakpoints, for example infinite red sugar with the 2 hit weakpoint to spawn red sugar + a minigun

[clear nimbus]

This was acknowledged by the devs today.

[static sable]

Yeah yeah I know they are strong but I reckon nerfing retcon even just slightly might destroy her kit entirely so it’s more of a tight rope sorta balancing

[storm wind]

bug with the goodrock(?) gatekeeper where i guess it didnt reach its second stage where apparently its supposed to go back into the hole?

[gritty ridge]

wait til you hear that 2 hit weakpoint upgrade used to not have the 0.5 second cooldown those were the good old days

[warped mirage]

oh lord

[earnest jay]

Hope they do something about it soon

[verbal tusk]

Nah, that's a thing in DRG too, having to clear out enough mobs for it to be safe to hold E on them for those few seconds. If you really need someone alive, Falconer can zap someone up with her drone.

[formal magnet]

Retcon has been getting nerfs and nerf suggestions for eons

[worldly oracle]

The little update they did earlier certainly helped make D-03 feel doable as spotter solo xd

[solar dock]

Why is pickaxe bound to right click by default, its used so infrequently that I feel like it has no right to use a button that important

[river whale]

I don't mind several of them having poor ammo econ, I just wish I could know that was the case before picking them. We don't get to see any of the guns' stats before choosing them currently, which is a major issue

[storm wind]

same as in drg

[odd moss]

No op class will save your if your teammates arent good unless you solo

[formal magnet]

I don't think D3 was changed earlier xd just D1 and 2

[quaint dove]

I was going to object that the character concept hasn't existed for eons, but given the time travel element that sort of thing can get confusing.

[gritty ridge]

i know the devastator does say ammo hungry in the description now but like a mario karts stat display on the guns might be nice

[solar dock]

Yeah but in drg you use it like 5 times as much

[worldly oracle]

The elevator mob-waves were changed

[static sable]

Only problem with that big dog is that nerfing retcon even slightly might destroy her carefully crafted kit

[verbal tusk]

Pickaxe can also be used as a weapon, and I feel like it's more useful as one than in DRG.

[odd moss]

If you use pickaxe so infrequently then you got a problem

[warped mirage]

honestly every class feels good except striker imo, needs so much building to feel good

[chilly bison]

Do note that melee combat with the pickaxe is a lot better in this game compared to DRG.

[river whale]

For mining, but not for combat. Pickaxe is actually viable for combat in RC

[storm wind]

theres an area in the ramrod where the floor grate models overlap. i'd say absolutely unplayable but im about to start antoher mission

[odd moss]

Nah, slicer is very good. Especially if you get eclipse and stand still recharge

[earnest jay]

I just lose so much hp when I go melee, it doesn't feel that feasible unless I got some good hp regen 😔

[empty tartan]

use it more. it helps you conserve ammo.

[hollow bear]

use your pickaxe to fight

[fickle bobcat]

Does anyone know if Thermal Wake for Slicer is bugged right now?

[formal magnet]

since alpha 4 at the very least

[warped mirage]

the issue i have is i feel like i die super fast trying to melee, maybe im playing it wrong

[odd moss]

Im pretty sure it works, though the ffire isnt very visible.

[quaint dove]

I found myself playing a lot of slicer and I usually spec so heavily into melee that the pickaxe becomes an important main damage tool.

[chilly bison]

Like 2 big differences is that 1. it attacks a lot faster if you start hitting enemies, and 2. it can do extra dmg if you hit a weak point.

[gritty ridge]

pickaxing a crowd is a good way to lose a bunch of health but you should be cleaning up lone bugs with pickaxe where reasonable
and its pretty safe even in a swarm to just blow up a random grunt with power attack every time it comes off cooldown

[solar dock]

Oh i see

[verbal tusk]

Just gotta remember to hold the pickaxe down, it has a swing combo here, plus trying to animation cancel like in DRG doesn't feel like it's actually faster.

[mossy ruin]

it also has what seems like a guaranteed stun

[odd moss]

Slicer with vampire is fun too

[quaint dove]

DRG had weak points on pickle hit too. The real big buff is not slowing yourself down when you hit with it.

[tacit urchin]

Yes, not a long one though

[worldly oracle]

Felt possible to do the elevator events and not get absolutely bodied now in 03 x) maybe other classes it's been more fine but solo with spotter vs the absolute sea of monsters was pain

[olive moss]

Slicer dash ability is a joke/meme? it barely helps in games at all

[regal tree]

the NA burgerbox never ceases to amaze me

[static sable]

Legitimately I feel like balancing retcon is like walking on a tight rope very very tricky to balance her properly

[quaint dove]

It was a very necessary part of the best build I managed so far.

[chilly bison]

Guess it's just more noticeable here, considering how much extra dmg you do to creepers vs grunts by hitting their head

[umbral patrol]

I know the falconer is kind of a medic, but I wish we had a true medic class. I wonder if they are thinking about eventually adding something like that

[regal tree]

holy bait just say ur from NA bro

[hollow bear]

not likely. they answered that on the stream

[stiff ibex]

Hello RC chat, what we talking about today?

[marsh tide]

I love the spotter and the crit dart but I find the rest of his kit so boring

[earnest jay]

What was og retcon like?

[ivory pumice]

is there only 1 boss?

[umbral patrol]

oh word, do you know if they ever mention adding any other abilities or no? just curious

[low swift]

All good things and everyone is getting along 👍

[static sable]

“I NEED A MEDIC” “I CANT FEEL MY BEARD HELLLLLP”

[chilly bison]

No, there are multiple.

[hollow bear]

a healing class is something they have little to no interest in adding. they might add some expenite upgrades or something, but i don't see any healing others class abilities showing up ever.

[tacit urchin]

If you died during your ability you'd just respawn

[stiff ibex]

I was here yesterday, how accurate is this actually?

[verbal tusk]

If there's a true healer class, the game will have to be balanced around them maybe being in the party, which means you will pretty much always want them in the party.

[odd moss]

Medic would be neat but it'd probably mess up balance

[earnest jay]

Oh damn

[warped mirage]

honestly its so weird how falconer has the revive drone, yet it feels like the class that does the most dmg (at least in my 10 hours with the game)

[formal magnet]

new boss every depth

[low swift]

Yeah I basically lied.

[inner forum]

good evening everyone, sorry if that has been asked but: does perks stack? As example miners' gear I and II will their effect combine or the highest overwrites the lowest?

[chilly bison]

They do stack

[static sable]

Yes

[ivory pumice]

we've done a few runs on depths 1 and 2 and have only seen the gotoorak gatekeeper, do they only spawn on lower depths?

[odd moss]

I mean you can put both on. Probably for a good reason

[chilly bison]

I know on depth 2 there is another boss that can spawn.

[formal magnet]

Each depth unlocks a new boss up to 4 check the mission icon to see what boss it is

[warped mirage]

even on depth 3 ive only seen gotoorak, i assume the other bosses are in other areas

[noble bramble]

Class that’s just letting you play as cooper

[gritty ridge]

i was gonna send a picture i drew in paint but i forgot you cant send images
slicer dash has a property where you are slowed down at the end of it to more reasonable speeds
however, if you can bounce off a wall at the right angle, that slowdown will be cancelled and you can launch yourself with great speed

[stiff ibex]

Expected. At least review positivity is up by 1% than last time I checked. Just spent an hour and a half after work formatting and editing my steam guide so i've been out of the community loop for a a while.

[static sable]

Ramok boss fight is probably one of the more annoying boss fights

[stray plover]

The game, is fun 👍

[tacit urchin]

Nah, you can tell them apart by the weird icon

[odd moss]

I hate molaktula

[hollow bear]

i love molaktula

[gritty ridge]

i am neutral on molaktula

[stiff ibex]

Haven't fought Molaktula

[tacit urchin]

I also love Molaktula, but I can see why somebody would hate him ngl

[low swift]

I don't personally care what the review score is at myself, just that feedback is being read through and addressed. As long as the devs are diligent and thoughtful with implementing changes, it will all work out eventually.

[odd moss]

Gotta waste my ammo on the stomper things

[hollow bear]

there's a lot to think about in that fight. i like watchin it walk along, imagining its got a tuba sountrack as it waddles.

[warped mirage]

i just wish steam itself had a mixed option, because the game itself is good, just has some major points to address

[stark silo]

patch notes day 1 after release is crazy

[stiff ibex]

Same, GSG's good about listening to the community. Both about gameplay and silly things. Like us wanting to take Dotty back home, and having Smol meteors be Smol.

They haven't failed me before

[hollow bear]

is it?

[tall plume]

wait, you're supposed to think ?

idk, I just shoot.

[tacit urchin]

Thats normal

[low swift]

Very hard agree. I don't like leaving negative reviews when there is clearly so much potential, a mixed option would be fantastic.

[inner forum]

thanks to you and person above!

[polar vessel]

I like red sugar drop upgrades am I noob

[static sable]

We try to be helpful

[tall plume]

nah, they're great

[stiff ibex]

It's why I ended up writing a guide instead. Don't want to rate positive just yet even though I personally enjoy it a lot, I know many others don't.

And I don't want to rate it negatively when it hasn't even gotten a chance to be worked on.

[hollow bear]

nah im a ceritified sweeth tooth freak

[odd moss]

I like suicide bomber retcon

[chilly bison]

They are pretty good, especially if you get a BRS(Better Red Sugar) upgrade.

[tacit urchin]

No, just like having a safety net

[static sable]

Nay you ain’t trust me having sweet tooth perk is a real life saver

[stiff ibex]

I find it odd that the Ammo Pods only restore Armor. DRG restored HP so why wouldn't the Reclaimers.

If nothing else it's the same pods Miners use before they evacuated and that's what we are in DRG.

[gaunt plinth]

different game, different mechanics. i like it

[odd moss]

The red sugar in them rotted away lol

[chilly bison]

Probably to make healing more scarce.

[stoic hearth]

The two biggest gripe I have with Rogue Core is the upgrade system (which goes against the spirit of co-op) and the timer (god help you if you want to play solo and at your own pace).

[static sable]

Because we have Ellis

[torn crag]

Can teammates not shoot through the shield gun?

[low swift]

Definitely to make it more scarce. I would prefer health be more plentiful but armor be kind of rare.

[granite totem]

Molly > Ellis

[reef heath]

They can as far as I know

[brittle quail]

ah yes love getting banned by host on 4/6 cuz he shot me and i shot him back

[gaunt perch]

It's against the spirit of coop if pepole dont give you the best perk every round? LMAO

[lavish slate]

any fixes on how to get the game to recognize that ive joined the server?

I cant get this to work, not sure tho if its cuz i was already on this server, or if im supposed to click something here 😄

[stiff ibex]

Mechanically It works. Just feels silly world lore wise.

"Ah yes, we are tougher, do more dangerous tasks. But also the pods that healed our miners do jack for us."

maybe we don't like eating the spare sandwiches?

That's my new take, reclaimers don't heal from pods because the food is lower quality.

[hollow bear]

if you mean the 500 merits, it's not working at the moment.

[low swift]

I think the miners are eating the ammo for sustenance.

[night jasper]

riding the maintenance bot around is a great screen saver

[elder finch]

I'm really not a fan of bosses and mechanics throwing me around everywhere.

[boreal swift]

does anyone else get the feeling that the runs are a touch on the long side? I'd really like it if the missions were a bit shorter, but the mission length simultaneously needs to be long enough for the dwarves to stack upgrades meaningfully... idk what the perfect solution is but if a single mission is comparable to a deep dive in terms of length, then the rewards ought to be more than what they are imo.

[stiff ibex]

Then they need fewer Drillers

[stoic hearth]

What I'm trying to say here is that there should be fewer upgrade options and allow players to select the same upgrade.

[tacit urchin]

Tbf, DRG was never lore-heavy or with explanations. I get where you're coming from though

[gritty ridge]

co-op fans when they have to co-ordinate with their team

[gaunt plinth]

this would just lead to 4 people with the same build

[reef heath]

Sorry but this sounds like a pretty bad solution

[static sable]

Co-ordination with teammates ewwww 🥹

[marsh tide]

Then that means each class has little identity and motive to pick a different build

[gaunt plinth]

maybe the upgrades should always be the same tier so no one feels left out

[wild garden]

Hope they rework ramok boss. Hes way too annoying for the lame classes we got. Wish we had drg classes as well.

[warped mirage]

upgrade variety is important to a rougelite coop, otherwise it will be very boring

[night jasper]

if you end up with 4 of the same builds, sounds like a design flaw of the other builds

[storm wind]

seconding the allow players to choose the same upgrade

[stiff ibex]

Honestly, i'd love for it to be referenced in Voicelines. We need something silly since we can't do the Rich-ual

[empty pine]

Just an ammo crate is kinda underwhelming for the spotter

[chilly bison]

The higher rarity upgrades are already difficult to find.

[polar vessel]

My friend got a breach cutter and said it felt really bad, was cutter nerfed?

[static sable]

Get a load of this loser

[reef heath]

Coop with teammates in a coop game? Sorry 2/10 game, I'll leave a negative review

[marsh tide]

It didn't fly smooth for me in my run. I think it was lag or something?

[tacit urchin]

Mushroom is still here btw. It also pisses off OMEGA just as much

[south delta]

It feel fine? Did he not know the return mechanic?

[gritty ridge]

mushroom

[stiff ibex]

Excellent.

[chilly bison]

Did it have Return to Sender?

[polar vessel]

I dont remember

[chilly bison]

I don't know why of all the overclock effects they brought into this game, that one made it.

[tacit urchin]

Use the run history in the terminal to check

[opal chasm]

rlly? me & friends were unable to piss off omega, and the fem dwarves didn't even say mushroom :(

[brittle crag]

just noticed the tf2 reference in the manual
fuck yeah

[torn crag]

I was using it and thought it was pretty good and was blocking the first bosses green bomb move. but then a team mate was like “stop using it, it suck and I can’t shoot through it”

[stiff ibex]

Pardon?

[static sable]

Please don’t leave a negative review you nerd

[quaint dove]

I don't want to cooperate with bad teammates. Only good ones./lh

[tacit urchin]

Yeah, female dwarfs are mute for some reason... and that SUCKS!

[reef heath]

I used it in a run and it definitely doesn't block shots from dwarves. It's an amazing crowd control tool

[static sable]

Hey even the bad teammates are useful as meat shields

[brittle crag]

"its said that firing this weapon for 12 seconds costs as much as a mining crew earns in their whole careers. but it gets the job done"

[reef heath]

I will because I refuse to adapt to a new thing I'm not familiar with 😢

[torn crag]

Mine had shock and suppression witch was really good on falconer

[stiff ibex]

How many people here use the LFG for Rogue Core. I imagine a few since dear gods those VC's are loaded with people now.
Question is if that methods any good . . .

Also thank you @brittle crag I need to send a screenshot of that to my friend

[static sable]

Than get familiar with it scrub because you need to learn

[reef heath]

Nooo don't make me learn new thing, I don't want to read 🫃

[static sable]

Than you will let you’re team down greenbeard

[stiff ibex]

I'm going to have to aquire the Leadstorm Minigun cause I can't imagine anything else that would imply TF2s MtH Classic Line

[cedar idol]

So, arrived to Clerence 7, first promotion and all liv1 and half of liv2 skills unlock, now I can speak properly.

The game is good, the timer is good.
There are TONS of bugs, the new molly keep getting stuck and can't follow the crew.
The big boss, that one with 4 legs can't recall the name, is soo strange, most of the time I couldn't understand what hit me. It was a BIG NO for me at the moment.
Another bug: if a player is down during elevator, in the following stage there will be always a start swarm, pretty annoying

The timer is not "oppressive", is just right, more time mean more fights, make a longer timer means a lost for low ammunition, the timer is there to HELP the player, swarms will keep coming also if the timer is not at 0.
The shared upgrade also is good imho, if there is not teamwork, why tf are you playing RC instead of DRG? It's not a bad mechanics, it's the people, they want keep playing DRG with a better looking so they pretending that RC is DRG2 (I also think we all need a DRG2, but this is another subject and is not on the developer's shoulders, out there there is not a fun game as DRG, so this make us irritated and filled with nostalgia, DRG is still there but sometimes it feels outdated, expecially after 1k hours)

The game is good, the gameloop is good. There are a couple weapons that look not so fun, but is an EA. I see why they removed the grabbing hook, but I think that there is still room for it, sometimes exp spawn in high spots, hard to reach it also with the new grav ball.
Runs without the flare gun are an automatically abort mission, can't play without it
There is for sure a problem with friendly fire, the new models for dwarves are very good, but sometimes is hard to see is you are shooting another companion, friendly fire here is EXTREMLY punishing, imho ammunition should give some health.

Long story short: game good, a lot of bugs, but game fun
I want a dmn bench press in the hub

[stiff ibex]

Play Roguelike - Adapt to what you aquire - Pray you get something better next time anyways - Rinse repeat.

If Spelunky = true
then
Die.

[simple rock]

this game is brutal as a solo player, and this is coming from a drg greybeard with thousands of hours

[sour bane]

I fear I discovered this my past run. Was playing with my friends and would shout "CONSEQUENCES FREE!!" While laughing manically, then charge into the enemy line, chuck all my clusters, activate rage and pickaxe the shit out of them all...

Then return to the present timeline with a suave, "We now return to your regularly scheduled programming."

[gritty ridge]

4 legs shoots missiles in direct response to it taking damage so shoot and then dodge (and dont try to melee)
and the wave at the start of the level is intentional as a penalty for having a dwarf get downed
if it helps, the wave wont start until you get close to the prison they're in

[stiff ibex]

If I remember right, the person being down on elevator causing a swarm is intentional to encourage not leaving someone to die on the previous floor. I vaguely recall that during a dev stream.

Just another thing to manage.

[crystal dew]

hemoforge explosive guardian is very fun

[pale rain]

this game is piss easy as solo, coming from someone who doesnt play haz 7

[reef heath]

I like being a walking brick wall that scares enemies away while I defend my team

[crystal dew]

as someone who can sometimes do haz 4 solo, this game is decently hard solo

[crystal dew]

my friend was like "watch out for cave leeches"
no cave leeches better watch out for me, a few bites and I'll either explode or freeze them lmao

[cedar idol]

I can see the logic behind, but is a run killer, If we leave someone is because we were in deep shit, a swarm at start is just last nail of the coffeen

[stiff ibex]

I tend to do Haz 4's in DRG myself and I can agree with GSGs rough assesment of Haz3 Comparison being the minimal difficulty.

[gritty ridge]

if you're fast you can just about get the person up before the wave reaches you

[strong ether]

Okay I just discovered something funny, the pickaxe customization station in the ramrod is horribly optimized and drops my FPS by up to 20 as I look at it and get closer

[gritty ridge]

and make sure to get ammo/health before you assault the prison

[spare palm]

Has keybinds per character been discussed?

[simple rock]

I was only playing the very first level. I didn’t struggle but I will admit I was absolutely swamped by enemies most of the time, especially as it started to spawn a bunch of armored and ranged enemies

And then that first boss kicked the dog piss out of me. I don’t know how I managed to beat it as a solo.

[stiff ibex]

Well don't run to revive them instantly then. There's an ammo pod at the landing of the elevator. Use it, get your abilities ready, and then rescue.

They shouldn't be spawning instantly on arrival, or at least. Not the prison break. Nothing to be said for the standard enemies

[clear nimbus]

mostly...positive....reviews. wish i could go back to launch and have a chat with the doomers in chat

[stiff ibex]

Though in defense of your statement, I also haven't had an opportunity to run that revival event yet so I don't have personal data to use.

[dire hamlet]

the chief complaint I'd have about difficulty is just the ammo sponginess of some enemies. I had a pretty crappy run where we had 3 clamorheads in one wave on the first level of depth 1. My teammates went down and I had to dance around for like 4 minutes while barely chipping down the clamorhead health. By level 3, clamorheads weren't so annoying anymore, but when you don't have any armor breaking or piercing equipment, they suck hard

[near oxide]

i dont understand why it has to be an us vs them mentality

[cedar idol]

For sure, it's just looking a little too hard, even for this game, just an opionion

[stiff ibex]

That there's rough terrain to tread.

[cobalt aurora]

If I had more control over my starting gun that would be nice. Really makes or breaks a run sometimes

[hallow tundra]

we're all in this boat man, we dont want another destiny 2 situation where everyone is either upset at the people who like the game and the people who like it are upset at the ones who dont

[tall plume]

A lof ot the negative review comes from a place of people expecting something the game isn't.
There are also regions with a lot of server issues (china and russia, to talk about the big two, which a lot of negative reviews are from due to this).

[faint sable]

so anyone know of any way to finally get the game to give the 500 merits for joining the discord server? Was in it before and even tried leaving it and rejoining it via the in-game join button and still not giving credit it seems

[tall plume]

Not all of them, obviously, but that's still a good part of them.

[tall plume]

currently bugged

[stiff ibex]

There's a suggestion in the suggestions channel where someone put in the idea of metaupgrades giving a higher chance of a starting gun showing up as an option, also putting in some "Contesting" of an upgrade choice where RNG can decide who gets what.

[faint sable]

sigh so they i guess never could get the discord aspect figured out with DRG but incorporate it into Rogue Core as well, seems rather silly imho

[stiff ibex]

Tbf, it's only 500 Merits.

[hallow tundra]

my rogue core bug and pathnotes thread just dissapeared wth

[gleaming musk]

i want the homing drak as a oc in base drg tbh

[stiff ibex]

I had that happen as well when adding roles, I just went into followed channels and toggled the Rogue Core section in it's entirety. All the way up top,

[faint sable]

true but just seems like a really silly thing to do. Especially since its right there even before you go into the game, like the first aspect of the game you encounter....and its bugged :-p

[hallow tundra]

ye, fixed it :D

[cedar idol]

a lot of people want a plane DRG2, I feel like them, I wuold love a DRG more active o something similar but RC is not the case

[earnest jay]

Are we still talking about reviews. I am tired of hearing about it 🫩

[tall plume]

this ^
you need to actively choose the categories you want to see otherwise discord hide them

[stiff ibex]

I don't even know what a DRG2 is supposed to look like.

DRG is DRG, making a second one would involve basically resetting everything everyones earned, and given how much of a time sink it is. Greatly so for quite a LOT of people.

A sequel would just kill everything I fear.

[fickle bobcat]

Yay, I got my first kick for having an absolute dogshit build I guess

[crude nimbus]

just clutched my first depth 2 run solo on 15 hp after nearly dying 4 times against gotoorak
peak game

[tacit urchin]

Pin it to then tell people to read pins each time

[reef heath]

More frequent updates on base drg is better at this point

[night jasper]

the shared upgrades is my only hangup. im sure its great in premades.

[stiff ibex]

. . . reeeeeeeeeeeead?

[copper brook]

FYI there's a thread on r/macgaming where someone contacted crossover devs and they said they likely won't be fixing stuff because the game is in early access

[tacit urchin]

Whazzat?

[tall plume]

[sour bane]

Should've picked Retcon for that smh /j

[stiff ibex]

sounds like an elf thing to me. I'm gonna go have another Glyphid Slammer!

[dire hamlet]

what're y'all's main

[fickle bobcat]

Damn, the game doesn't support Steam's recently met players

[cobalt aurora]

Ive been trying retcon tonight. It’s been going okay but still not totally sold on it

[old halo]

Ok, how do I get the merits from joining the discord server?

[stiff ibex]

Falconer on my end, I like range and I like saying "You don't get to move anymore"

[tacit urchin]

I like spotter and slicer the most. But falconer has been growing on me recently

[stiff ibex]

Bugged

[sour bane]

I have only tried Retcon and Slicer so far, I love the both of them very much

[pale rain]

slicah

[dire hamlet]

I like slicer because getting vampire and the stoneskin bio booster makes me feel immortal. I can leap into a horde of enemies and walk out with more health than I started with. Especially love the way that with the right build I can almost instantly regain my slice and power attacks with melee/stun perks

[crude nimbus]

everyone in the tutorial started with falconer right?

[hollow bear]

she is Rogue Core's gunner

[dire hamlet]

Area Denial

[cedar idol]

The Guardian GOAT

[tacit urchin]

And simulation the grotto

[jaunty sage]

I like rewinder because you can just spam grenades like crazy

[hollow bear]

yooo we should get shallow grotto. they have no excuse anymore

[grizzled iron]

:’) what’s the thread?

[knotty drum]

Why is the jump from difficulty 1 to 2 so crazy, I literally CANNOT even get past a cave because a swarm starts, an unofficial swarm shows up and keeps coming, then the next swarm is there and I did no objectives and have to do elevator with no time

[lapis fox]

spotter/slicer. slicer gets to backhand people and his deck is poggers im absolutely carried by bloodlust and his melee synergies. spotter is just the supportiest support to ever support in drg so i like him too

[cobalt aurora]

I want more decks quickly. More ways to build characters

[lapis fox]

this the kinda greed written about in the bibble 🥀

[crude nimbus]

you mean from depth 1 to 2? i didn't really feel the difficulty spike much - only really at the elevator where the hordes were crazy and i died on every level at least once

[tacit urchin]

Have you ascended 2 reclaimers yet?

[cobalt aurora]

Nope

[solar bolt]

same, felt like a constant swarm, then the next swarm came lmao, miserable

[copper brook]

Dont have the link, but should be easy to search because it has the game name in title

[jolly drum]

Ye I get it. They'll probably have to change something because people hate seeing candy and not being able to eat it. Which is too bad. Less mainstream games can be a little more mature about their progression but I tend towards hardcore true RNG madness where an asteroid can just land on you and end you lol. People taking one cool thing and forcing me to take a much less cool thing is very manageable.

[lapis fox]

if you do that you can take the second deck and swap it with another ascended reclaimers 2nd deck

[old finch]

Any news on when at all this might release on console/xbox

[tacit urchin]

You can swap decks once you do, only one per class but

[stiff ibex]

The important question. Random Group for a quick game or jumping in the strange pool that is LFG

[hollow bear]

wont be until after 1.0 if it happens.

[cobalt aurora]

Hmm that’s interesting

[potent saddle]

hot take, slicer is duh best

[ocean hare]

helo rogueing corers

[tacit urchin]

This will divide people

[sour bane]

FOR THE RECLAIMERS!

[crystal dew]

I'm so excited for the roadmap

[potent saddle]

me too

[formal magnet]

same

[sour bane]

I'm excited to get home and play more Rogue Core!

[tacit urchin]

I hope we get cool pictures on the roadmap 🥺

[unborn sonnet]

im not gonna hype about roadmap. i better lower my expectation. so i wont be disappointed

[formal magnet]

I have a gut fealing it will be good

[vocal temple]

So there isn't a kill area under ramrod? If you fall out there's no failsafe....

[crystal dew]

honestly don't care how the roadmap looks... I really just want to know what the next thing they're working on is

[potent saddle]

Rock and stone or we ain't coming home! (also molly better, ellis mid)

[zealous spear]

latejoined with a devastator pistol and i've never felt more ammo starved in my gaming life

[unborn sonnet]

I like molly. she walks proudly. ellis is.. just flying.

[crystal dew]

I like ellis tbh

[formal magnet]

molly is way too slow

[ocean hare]

molly has more personality while ellis has more practicality

[earnest jay]

Wish they'd give a choice between the leftover weapons and upgrades 😭

[shut gazelle]

the lack of ready cheks is killnig me on depth 3

[zealous spear]

molly moving at ellis speeds would be more dangerous to the dwarves than the glyphids

[potent saddle]

sure, molly is slow, but she's been ther since the start :)

[high iris]

Creators is there any way we could get a separate KB+M Scheme for each Reclaimer. This Would be really useful for those that use extra mouse buttons. And that each class plays fairly different.

[unborn sonnet]

i have grown fondly with molly. ellis.. uh.. lets get to know each other more'

[crystal dew]

more stuff that uses wayward sparks and magic missiles could be epic

[earnest jay]

Ellis looks kinda eh in terms of her design, not the biggest fan

[prisma ingot]

I wish you could always deposit in Ellis, it's annoying when they're already right there but not in "deposit mode" until you call them

[glacial dust]

^^^ and a way to bind the 3rd ability

[river whale]

Need stuff like this for other elements also

[tacit urchin]

But... tortoise :(

[hollow pike]

how do i send invitations to the group via discord chat?

[crystal dew]

generally I'm excited for an improvement to the upgrade pool (but I think the timer/ammo/upgrade complaints should probably be addressed first.. I really hope the timer isn't changed too much, I actually like it, it just feels to short sometimes

[river whale]

Yeah, same

[earnest jay]

She should've been more tortoised shaped 😡

[potent saddle]

all i want for Christmas is the shower achievement

[crystal dew]

also definitely think metaprogression system needs an overhaul at somepoint, but that can very much wait
-# I have opinions on bio-boosters as well but that's... it's own thing

[simple jacinth]

is anyone else having issues with microsoft defender labeling RC as a bad file?

[potent saddle]

no

[high iris]

for sure!

[pale rain]

someone check rc gallery and choose for me

[simple jacinth]

I was playing it just fine yesterday but after update it is calling it a risk file

[empty pine]

Favorite class so far is Guardian then Spotter I think, gotta be honest Ive seen 0 ppl playiing Retcon

[potent saddle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[humble prism]

I need Ellis to make more robot noises. Or at least for the dwarves to speak about him like they do to Molly

[crystal dew]

I think that more ways to increase max health and ammo could be nice...
-# looking at you, red sugar cube in drg:s

[high iris]

I think Retcon has the most complex kit and will therefore benefit from the most metaprogression and game knowledge

[shy prism]

Why isn't Leaf Lover's free if OMEGA doesn't want us fooling around drunk?

[pale rain]

slicer is the scout of RC, hardest to master

[high iris]

I do not experience it that way 🙂

[formal magnet]

that Drak is kinda eh, 2 upgrades help aim when it has homing already but Glass Cannon and a good Shock Striker is a tough choice

[waxen hamlet]

Just asended for the first time. Rock and Stone!

[river whale]

It would make Omega a leaf lover

[muted tree]

Use ability - be kamikaze with 6 bombs - use ability again

[formal magnet]

it used to cost 5 Kcal credits then it got changed to 250

[long ember]

just know that you can dash after jumping and you're already a good slicer fr

[pale rain]

well maybe you just didnt see the wacky tech slicer dash get have

[high iris]

but like any aoe or aoe applicator can do that to clear horde

[stiff ibex]

Welp, LFG is looking for high tier players and low depth games lobbies are barely countable on one hand.
Many solo games ahead of me it would seem

[pale rain]

please ping me if you reply please 😭 but ill go glass

[muted tree]

Retcon can spam it when horde walking right to him but he will get grenades and health back

[tawny coyote]

guys where do devs post upcoming fixes and adressing problems in rogue core ?

[twilit kelp]

Showers aren't functional, 0/10

[empty pine]

Theres no way to do 1 paintjob for the armor another for the undersuit ?

[rocky sequoia]

they are releasing a roadmap tomorrow

[muted tree]

EARLY ACCESS WITHOUT SHOWER???? unplayable.

[formal magnet]

[tawny coyote]

@rocky sequoia noice

[potent saddle]

so true. we need to shower with the boys every now and then. doesn't omega want us to have proper hygiene?

[tawny coyote]

that timer is a nightmare i cant focus on the game because of it

[pale rain]

glass x brawler goes so hard no matter what

[rocky sequoia]

Ive been reading a bunch of reviews of people saying that the timer is bad but I dont really get what those people would like it to be changed to short of just making it super long/removing it which just sort of makes the game DRG2 instead of its own thing

[sleek mortar]

Just started, which class is most fun for beginners. The gaurdian seems cool

[potent saddle]

i like slicer

[formal magnet]

you have like almost 15 minutes on D1 to beat a stage it has a lot of room for error

[rocky sequoia]

like imo i really like the timer as it forces you to always be making progress and creates situations where you have to make decisions like what to do/leave behind in order to make it in time instead of just full looting every cave

[muted tree]

Imo retcon. Its way more unique than anything you saw in drg

[earnest jay]

Prob falconer or slicer

[tawny coyote]

let it be drg2 . i feel the game is more of a race than a roguelike . everytime u want to go look for new things u cant because u are afraid of the timer

[empty pine]

Spotter is pretty newbie friendly I think, low cooldowns and util

[long ember]

Its already been fixed by the newest patch imo, its not as strict anymore and you can goof off more in depth 1

[twilit kelp]

This is true, retcon really seems the most unique

[pale rain]

god i DONT want drg2

[ocean hare]

who up roguing they core

[stark sinew]

I would disagree even tho he can trimp. He's honestly pretty straight forward compared to scout
Idk who i'd call the hardest to master here though. Maybe spotter or retcon

[rocky sequoia]

the devs were incredibly clear from the start that it ISNT DRG2 and that it is its own thing entirely

[twilit kelp]

Okay, get this outta here lmfao

[tacit urchin]

You don't need the same game, twice

[potent saddle]

for the reclaimers? nah. FOR ROCK AND STONE

[rocky sequoia]

depth 1 was already incredibly long and i dont think i have ever ran out of time in it

[tropic trail]

Kind of a darkest dungeon 2 situation init?

[ocean hare]

no need for drg 2 when theres alrdy seasons

[steel sleet]

if i had to rank classes from least to most complex i would probably go > > > >

[tawny coyote]

i think they should make zone becoming smaller . or maybe the caves slowly become filled with lava instead of timer . it forces to progress that way

[tacit urchin]

Lava?

[rocky sequoia]

Its a good thing that they nerfed the timer for only the first depths and left the harder ones intact as the difficulty is still there for people who want it

[earnest jay]

I'd put guardian first honestly

[potent saddle]

worst class?

[empty pine]

They said they were gonna look at the timer in the 1st things updated roadmap that reflects feedback comes out tomorrow, but I strongly disagree though, the pacing alone is way different than in DRG

[brave root]

ITS SO GOOD

[craggy field]

Pretty decent actually

[slim prairie]

Feel like all the classes are fine to pick up. Try them out to find your playstyle.

[potent saddle]

no what is the worst

[steel sleet]

none of them are too complex but guardian shares a cooldown for his two active abilities and provides a very valuable resource to the team

[tawny coyote]

lava,mist something that slowly creeps in like in battleroyale

[shrewd star]

Depth = difficulty yes?

[craggy field]

Depends on your play style

[stuck ferry]

I personally haven't had an issue with the timer at all, I've solo'ed D1,2,3 without reaching the timer in any level

[long ember]

Thats just basically the same thing isnt it
zone/lava being smaller acting as the new timer

[left bridge]

deck swapping is really op

[earnest jay]

It's very simple to manage tho, I had the easiest time understanding his kit and using it

[rocky sequoia]

I just really hope they dont change the timer all too much for the harder depths as I find it almost perfectly paced as someone who is very experienced with DRG and its movement/combat. If they make the timer too long the difficulty will be gone as you can just do absolutely everything without having to make desicions/prioritise

[brave root]

are you able to just dm the devs or do they find that annoying

[plucky blade]

Do more types of permanent meta progression open up other than the enhancements? It feels pretty underwhelming right now if it's THE meta power progression system, with how limited the slots are.

[rocky sequoia]

enhancements are all there is right now unfortunately

[formal magnet]

I wouldn't advise to DM them randomly

[chrome void]

someone like play rogue core ?

[brave root]

I see, I had a skin idea for Slicer and wanted to show em

[stuck ferry]

Depends if you count swapping decks as meta progression

[mossy ruin]

and bio booster deck swapping

[rocky lance]

how.. do you use the falconer's revive. I have never seen the ability icon light up as a useable

[tacit urchin]

You can also swap decks if you ascend 2 classes, but other than that yes

[formal magnet]

#rogue-core-suggestions and #fan-art are good for that if you want, the devs do read the suggestions chat

[earnest jay]

You need to launch the drone and then use the q e on a drowned dwarf

[frigid tiger]

So, since around a day has passed, do you have any favourite weapons so far?

[brave root]

I completely missed the suggestions, thank you

[clear nimbus]

Feels good leaning back seeing all those mostly positive reviews. Told yall

[worldly oracle]

honestly, the most annoying thing in the game RN is the fact that double-swarms are even possible at all... it's legitimately so crazy and I legit have no idea wtf I'm realistically supposed to do because there's just so. many. enemies. ALWAYS, I kill 15 in in a second only for there to be another 30 the second I turn around even a little...

[tacit urchin]

Decker, for the entire alpha and more

[plucky blade]

Bummer. I'm hoping they lean a little more into the meta progression side of things as time goes on. Yeah I should have mentioned the decks too, but that seems a ways off having to have 2 ascensions haha

[frigid tiger]

Personally I'm even more in love with the Autocannon now

[pale rain]

you can have triple swarms if your timing is perfect, good for transmutation

[clear nimbus]

Auto cannon is my jam

[formal magnet]

Shock Striker and the Decker, leadstrom/PGL for the heavies

[steep meadow]

Yeah, Spotter is kinda to “op/ Necessary

[tacit urchin]

The good old days when 5 swarms could spawn as a bug ahhh...

I do miss that even if it was a bug

[worldly oracle]

like, I'm sure it's less of a struggle in group games where people share the aggro but legit trying to stay alive as solo spotter while keeping the damn elevator going...

[slim prairie]

Retcon's Rage also looking very promising from the little that I've tested her too. Synergises very well with Spotter too.

[glossy orchid]

Anyone else having trouble launching the game today? I keep getting a popup that says to disable modding, but I don't have any mods. Tried to verify files and uninstall reinstall, but it still wont launch.

[sour bane]

COME ON RECLAIMERS, DO YOU WANT TO LIVE FOREVER?

[dire field]

Do Enhancements stack? Say I bring Healthy I and Healthy II do I get both of the extra health?

[strong salmon]

yes

[deep skiff]

Yes

[worldly oracle]

it's like I'm swimming through tar, no red-sugar drop-bonuses? Guess I'll just die no matter how hard I work to stay alive

[craggy field]

Yes

[clear nimbus]

I got grabbed by one of those ceiling bugs right as the elevator closed and the loading screen was my dwarf screaming and being pulled down into the earth with the bug gripping me and hanging on. Was the animation where you are getting pulled up by em. And the whole time I’m just falling and screaming the bug is getting more and more stretched out. Thought I was tripping for sure. Cracked me up

[formal magnet]

#rc-bug-discussion but I think windows defender might be causing that

[strong salmon]

what did I miss with falconers revive, I pressed Q + right click on a downed teammate (they were highlighted) and the drone would go up to them as if they were going to be revived, and then fuck off and do other stuff

[sour bane]

Miner or Reclaimer, the Cave Leech has a taste for blood regardless. 🤭

[keen knoll]

how to I get the currency for beer?

[glossy orchid]

I'll give it a look. Thanks.

[strong salmon]

gotta exercise and work for dat beer

[finite tundra]

did they remove friendly fire enhancement

[pale rain]

another linux W :trolling:

[tacit urchin]

That's reaperworms that do that

[formal magnet]

yh it was too OP but they reduced FF to compensate

[sour bane]

😨 what the hell is a reaperworm

[strong salmon]

its a thing in DRG but endless swarm is not a thing in DRG, it can be nigh impossible to get enough time to sit and hold E on someone if youre in the middle of an endless swarm

[finite tundra]

dawg I still one shot my teamates every fucking game 😭

[tacit urchin]

If you don't know then you're doing good. Keep it up

[pale rain]

invincible worms that tell you to politely leave

[raven coyote]

isn't it Q+E ? (whatever activates the left ability) and it'll say "reviving" instead of 'attack'

[sour bane]

How... Considerate of them...

[stiff ibex]

Well, they invite you for dinner first.

[empty pine]

Its been hit or miss for me but I understand where he's coming from, its nice if the caves are really linear but once you get more complex caves systems you'd want to explore Its not necessarily nice to be pressed against the time in that sense

[acoustic kettle]

Yall, I like the shock striker like a lot

[formal magnet]

yh you're the main cource

[stoic bridge]

good with status like burn tho or armor pierce

[stone whale]

aw no images

[rocky sequoia]

You do actually get endless swarms in DRG when you finish the primary objective in on site refining and you get essentially endless swarms in point extractions after a long enough time

[shrewd haven]

how much does acssesion reset?

[stone whale]

i love the anti grav thing its basically the zipline cheese but more fun and more mobile

[old finch]

Any estimate on when that might be?

[tacit urchin]

Just your level

[rocky sequoia]

I personally really like the situations where you are in a complex cave with the elevator not at the very end as it means you either have to hustle to get everything done or make decisions on what to leave behind

[stone whale]

also i just learne that the slicers q+e dash is directional so its basically a air jump

[shrewd haven]

pog was worried id love everything

[tacit urchin]

Class' level to be precise

[strong salmon]

Q+E is her electricity field I think

[stone whale]

falling to your death? look up a bit and q+e

[terse canopy]

I like it so far, but it feels a little too much like DRL that it is clouding my judgment.

[verbal tusk]

It just came out early access and was in alpha for a year, so 1.0 is probably ~2 years out at least.

[rocky sequoia]

I think that the biggest thing that causes people to dislike the timer is not understanding that you dont have to do everything and leaving stuff behind in order to go faster is always an option

[tacit urchin]

You can also look down and it'll still save you

[empty pine]

I think it could just use some tweaks, rn kinda feels like a microwaved version of the Threat level from DRG Survivor

[stone whale]

fair it basically resets momentum

[empty pine]

Omega is reprogrammed Rival Tech right ?

[stone whale]

but also we REALLY need duplicate classes EVERYONE and their mother is playing slicer in pub lobbies
like i just wanna cut stuff

[strong salmon]

either way it seems reviving is a lot harder in this game lol, so I was just trying to brainstorm ideas to make it not easy but not almost impossible either esp if youre on gauntlets where there basically is never time to stop moving and its incredibly rare youll actually have an omnidirectional shield (unless you get gunners shield from an equipment crate or have a guardian on your team)

[shrewd haven]

so what does two ascessions do then? i saw it can do something in the loadout menu

[strong salmon]

everyone else also wants to cut stuff... all the classes are good at least lol (except retcon I have no experience playing her)

[unkempt kraken]

Request for a change: As soon as the end boss for a run dies, all players gain invincibility. Just had a run count as a loss because we killed the gatekeeper, but the last player alive got caught in an explosion that was still out during the death animation, leaving all of us dead as the boss was finishing its death animation

[hollow echo]

Have they mentioned or hinted at another other potential classes?

[rocky sequoia]

I personally didnt enjoy DRG:S all that much so i cant really say much on that front but my biggest worry for the game is that the timer mechanic gets gutted to the point that its either completely irrelevant or just a soft timer that you can just ignore

[hollow bear]

not yet, unfortunately

[sour bane]

Management would like to clarify that OMEGA is an in-house creation and DRG patent. Any accusations levelled at DRG that OMEGA is a stolen piece of technology are patently false /larp

[tacit urchin]

Nope

[stone whale]

i like gettin up close an romantical RAGHHH

[old finch]

So like a year of something like that

[strong salmon]

Bioboosters have a "deck" of available upgrades that you can pull from whenever you use it, the two ascension thing is the ability to swap your deck out for alternatives that have different abilities

[hollow bear]

at least yeah. id say that's a fair timeline

[shrewd haven]

part of me thought it meant swapping between classes

[rocky sequoia]

reviving in DRG is only really easy if you have a gunner shield or field medic as otherwise trying to revive a teammate mid wave can be almost impossible

[worldly oracle]

I'm legit owning everything, speedblasting and usually getting most upgrades well within time and still the sheer quantity of monsters ends up being just 🫠

Maybe spotter is just absolute ass for soloplay, kit isn't exactly amazing for dealing with seas of monsters, but still..

I think that's my main gripe with the game ATM. I don't mind difficult roguelites, that's a given of the genre, but what I do feel is a bit 😒 is when it really feels like it doesn't matter how well I play around it, it just becomes impossible due to bad RNG because damage is so unavoidable

[old finch]

Ok, thank you

[strong salmon]

ig im used to the fact everyone has the revive perk in DRG as well, which makes reviving really fast

maybe that would help

[rocky sequoia]

when you take away gunner shields, field medic and iron will, reviving in DRG is actually quite difficult

[twin sonnet]

even after the update, I still find it impossible

[worldly oracle]

My strat: Stun boomerang and hold E on the knocked player - works a charm 99% of the time x)

[twin sonnet]

also I realized about the rouge core discount I could have gotten since I own DRG and didn't purchase it correctly on steam. doubt I can do anything now

[strong salmon]

spotters downfall in solo is that he really has no CC unless you get stun on crits or something, so the elevator segment becomes a fucking nightmare because you cant keep people away from the drive unit for long enough to get the elevator

[rocky sequoia]

i have only really played duos so far but we have mostly found that if someone goes down mid wave then you are usually better off just leaving them down until the end of the wave

[strong salmon]

yee the point I was making is just... what if the wave never ends?

[alpine shale]

is server browsing for gauntlet bugged?

[strong salmon]

The elevator and gauntlets are the best examples

[worldly oracle]

Yeah that sounds about right. The update to give small breathers during the event has been somewhat noticable but it's still just so damn crazy... maybe if the crit-dart had a bigger default AoE so you could chunk it into a field of monsters and get the/a crit effect on a bunch of them

[rocky sequoia]

then the person stays down, its much better to focus on the elevator and get the remaining people to the next layer than it is risking the mission to get someone up, it sucks when you are the downed person but it is what it is

[empty pine]

I agree, my ability to do stuff with him has been a bit dependent on the Guardian skill in my team

[strong salmon]

My friend went down during a gauntlet and it was literally impossible to get enough time to revive him

[unreal salmon]

when melee falls into place it's really silly how immortal you can become

[strong salmon]

alas, its a roguelike, shit happens ig, its how rng goes lol

[empty pine]

I think to compensate its important to go for Cryo nade and whatnot

[strong salmon]

I really like the gauntlet, I thought it was going to be unhinged hard but I managed to get to layer 5 first try which I feel pretty good about

[empty pine]

So if you're class is lacking CC or mobility you can at least tempo and fend for yourself should you get isolated

[worldly oracle]

I hope they do somethin' for spotter in solo though, I do love the class but I feel like I might as well not have any abilities at all during the non-boss stages

[rocky sequoia]

I usually get good utility out of spotter by shooting the darts at the floor to give a crit area for a bit as that allows for much better CC over marking single targets

[charred island]

The volume needs to be accessable to change immediately upon first starting the game

[slim prairie]

I'm actively using the dart for aoe crit on the floor aside from bosses?

[crystal dew]

"boom you're dead" can be good if you get it

[balmy ice]

the thrown flare's duration feels really short

[rocky sequoia]

what do you mean i love having my ears blown out by a 30 second long unskipable intro video followed by another 30 second unskipable cut scene before being able to lower the volume

[worldly oracle]

Even with that I don't feel like it's enough to handle all the seas of monsters half the time

[fickle bobcat]

Note: Don't type while the escalator drops, if unlucky you won't be able to move anymore

[random topaz]

Hey did anyone game suddenly lost all progress? I lost my levels for Spotter and my whole game restarted back to sqaure one

[fickle bobcat]

10/10 bug after 40 minutes

[twin sonnet]

even after the update, I still find it impossible. Also I realized about the rouge core discount I could have gotten since I own DRG and didn't purchase it correctly on steam. doubt I can do anything now

[atomic edge]

Did you disable cloud saves? Or maybe... enabled them?

[rocky sequoia]

what do you find impossible about the game?

[random topaz]

not sure

[spare birch]

do people not know how to launch gauntlets? cuz i see no one is doing it unless server list still kinda broken

[atomic edge]

Do you use Enhancements? They make a lot of difference. I failed 3 times as solo Spotter before "figuring things out", and group play is so much better than solo.

[random topaz]

just 6 hours of game time gone lol...man-

[twin sonnet]

yes I am making use of all the enhancements with that skill tree thing then applies them to slots on my classes. I just suck in general at the game

[spare birch]

you dont

[tawdry tiger]

where do I claim my 500 merits

[crystal moat]

Give us more beard's🙏

[rocky sequoia]

I really think that a lot of the reasons that people are not liking the game is that they came from DRG without knowing what a rogue like is. It is standard that in roguelikes you will die quite a few times at the start while you learn the game and all of its mechanics.

[lean topaz]

This is true, but you do know you can control the audio of a game and anything else running directly from your PC volume control, right?

[atomic edge]

I've found that Falconer is fairly "easy", since the Bird does all the work.

[tawdry tiger]

EX-FUCKING-SCUSE MEEE????

[jaunty magnet]

what's that patch notes?, it's silksong situation all again

[half patio]

Where can I report bugs?

[crystal moat]

Relatable name

[lean topaz]

This is exactly the case. DRG was also a much easier game and most people didn't play haz 5, so the community is a bit soft.

[quartz cosmos]

did they make this game as annoying to play as possible on purpose? or was that a happy accident? having to wait for all 4 people to be in the same place to do anything was definitely a choice.

[lapis spire]

Deferent armor types would be cool

[shy prism]

I love the new ammo container models, I kinda wish they made the Resupply Pods in DRG look like that.

[twin sonnet]

gotcha, btw do you know where I can contact rouge core support about the fact I didn't get the discount offer with rouge core and see if they can refuned the extra amout I paid for?

[still violet]

relatable

[rocky sequoia]

you could try getting a refund on steam and then rebuying the game with the discount

[atomic edge]

I do not know that. If it was through Steam, it would be through them, but... I doubt they'll award you the couple of bucks off.

[random topaz]

Is there a way to go back to a save?...if that possible also i do have cloud enable

[shy prism]

If you bought it on Steam, I'd contact Steam support.

[twin sonnet]

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[worldly oracle]

I absolutely owned my first 5 runs of the game before my first loss, even with what I'd now consider pretty meh weapons/benefits. Am no stranger to roguelites, but I've never played a roguelite where there's this much effectively unavoidable damage

[lapis spire]

Just take it

[pale rain]

why

[still violet]

was that a typo

[muted vessel]

rogue core is amazing ty devs

[twin sonnet]

how is that appropriate what he said

[severe lagoon]

does anyone know if adding multiple of the same enhancements stacks? (in the loadout before the run)

[atomic edge]

I think they do. I loaded up both the Miner I and Miner II Enhancements, and was able to hold 75 EXPENITE.

[round crane]

I believe so yes, I like stacking the health upgrades and grabbing red sugar upgrades mid-run. Makes Slicer a lot tankier

[tawdry tiger]

im a chud, why did it default me to w*men?

[dire marlin]

why is there such a low amount of d4 missions?

[strong salmon]

I think the server list is still broken because I let a lobby run for a gauntlet for like 10 mins and nobody joined

[stone whale]

i mean its hard and mayb people havent unlocked it?

[dire marlin]

no in general theres very little amount of selectable missions

[atomic edge]

It's day 2. Are people wanting D4 already?!

[stone whale]

it took me like 4-6 failed d3 for my first d3 win

[muted vessel]

yes

[red flint]

am i bad at the game or is depth 4 a little ridiculous ?

[dire marlin]

im already doing altered d4s

[rocky sequoia]

You can avoid a lot of damage with better positioning and placing more space between you and the enemies. Other than that a thing that i find helps is to treat health as a resource, its okay to take some damage if it means that you are getting something positive done

[severe lagoon]

the falconer and retcon are female, the other classes are male.

[strong salmon]

beyond depth 4, I wonder if GSG will implement complexity 3 caves eventually. I like my caves genuinely difficult to traverse

[shy prism]

What do the platforms with the button that says "Raise Barriers" do? I've tried pushing it and there's no animation and nothing happens and then it becomes uninteractable.

[atomic edge]

Beards can't cover up their voices. D:

[dire marlin]

complexity 3 caves are already in the game yes

[strong salmon]

wtf ive exposed myself for not knowing

[fickle bobcat]

I have a feeling a bunch of the upgrades don't work or don't work as they should, classic DRG

[rocky sequoia]

Male or female they are all reclaimers

[exotic matrix]

I feel like a lot of people just don't realise that friendly fire is a thing, just had a game with someone who seemingly didn't understand that explosives can do friendly fire, given how many times they blew me up with HE grenades and grenade launcher shots just because a single enemy was near me.

Is the game just not obvious enough in telling them that friendly fire happened or?

[dire marlin]

anyone knows what the jumble mod does

[severe lagoon]

agreed

[shy prism]

Gender is meaningless, everybody fights, nobody quits.

[summer dew]

how does the discord thing work

[atomic edge]

The friendly fire from elemental upgrades like sticky flames and poison clouds is a bit ridonk when you're trying to stay close for tactics, upgrades, bubbles, etc.

[dire marlin]

theres no ff from those

[atomic edge]

There was last night. D:

[exotic matrix]

You're probably just getting shot in the back by teammates who don't have spatial awareness.

[worldly oracle]

Trust me, all of what you've said is something I've been doing since the start because I quickly realized the same, however it doesn't change that swarms get crazy with the enemies jumping from all directions and slapping you from 5m away

[shy prism]

Is it like Micro-Conductor Add-On where it doesn't do friendly fire but still causes friendly fire visual effects and voicelines?

[summer dew]

yeah the discord integration is not working lol

[chrome elm]

Do we get rewards for being in the early access?

[dire marlin]

no

[atomic edge]

You get to play the game.

[chrome elm]

Fair enough lol

[rain cloud]

yeah i saw some depth 2 that i couldnt do

[summer dew]

is there a way to disable the intro animatic

[rose leaf]

i cant find it in the handbook or on the wiki/internet, but what in the world is the health regen threshold, and what does it do?

[lusty chasm]

knee slapper 😐

[pale rain]

glass cannon my beloved

[shy prism]

If I had to guess, I think it's how much HP you regenerate if at low health.

[quartz cosmos]

game right after 3 games of being kicked or people disbanding the game - 'how do you feel about the game' lmaoo

[rain cloud]

yeah in the settings

[plucky blade]

The audio cues are pretty clear if you come from DRG, but otherwise I'd say definitely not. And really, friendly fire in a game like this where there is already a ton of really hard to dodge damage, and mobs are ninjas who can do damage to you before you even know they're next to you, seems a bit excessive.

[rose leaf]

OHHH its that mechanic

[shy prism]

I could be wrong.

[sour iron]

question with saves, does anything happen if I go back to my old save that says game version 9? I'd rather not have to play through the start of the game again since I did it so recently.

[plucky blade]

I really wish I knew the answer to that myself.

[rose leaf]

it makes sense though

[rocky sequoia]

The only other thing i can suggest is prioritizing upgrades that drop red sugar such as the enemies drop red sugar when you are below 50% health or the 15% chance for an enemy to drop red sugar on death as it is very easy to stack a few of those and cover the floor of the cave in red sugar so that you can be basically invincible during a swarm

[chrome elm]

yall think this will have crossplay with consoles? that was the one thing I was sad about the first game

[pale rain]

it dont work

@plucky blade

[summer dew]

yeah, well i tried and cant get it to work so, i give up :P

[exotic matrix]

It's mainly though that friendly fire absolutely obliterates armour, which is really, really bad since that's kind of a big deal for staying alive.

[wanton frost]

Y’all think they’ll update it to no timer? I’m thinkin it’s in the game rn cuz of lack of map content

[rain cloud]

in DRG and DRG:RC if your health is below the threshhold and you havent taken damage for a few seconds, you start regenerating health until the threshhold

[south stump]

is there any post promo content except gauntlets?

[strong salmon]

interesting

[tardy vale]

whats the best class for solo?

[exotic matrix]

I know it's still early days of public access, but it seems a lot of people just never learned friendly fire's a thing, that should maybe be fixed.

[rocky sequoia]

I really hope they dont remove the timer as it is basically the only thing that applies pressure and makes you progress forwards

[left bridge]

bio booster deck swapping

[strong salmon]

is there any way to see the threshold?

[worldly oracle]

Way ahead of ya there too x) but RNG is RNG, and whilst I get that RNG is a big part of roguelites, in most other roguelites you can still pull through semi-reliably through efficient gameplay, even with poor luck, in this game it doesn't feel the same way

[plucky blade]

And on top of that having upgrades that rely on you having armor >.>

[exotic matrix]

I reckon it's the guy with the defensive aura that regens armour, that and being able to basically repel enemies is pretty powerful.

[rose leaf]

where can i visibly see the threshold, or is that not a thing?

[rocky sequoia]

its probably that at in DRG at low hazards friendly fire is so low and your shield regenerates that people never realized how important trigger discipline is

[south stump]

and that's all?, i mean that kinda makes sense, getting promos is easy in rc

[waxen hamlet]

The ramok is so annoying...

[exotic matrix]

That and, genuinely, friendly fire isn't as big a deal in DRG since it's easier to avoid enemies closing the gap on you, not to mention bigger maps, more space to move, slower enemies and generally more red sugar.

[vital jungle]

how can i claim that discord 500 merits thing? idk how to get it i keep trying to join

[left bridge]

i think there was also some cosmetics for the pickaxe but what did you expect from a EA game ofc there will be more in the future but rn i think thats all

[south stump]

is that the shark?

[rain cloud]

its the really cool one

[waxen hamlet]

Yea

[shy prism]

Yeah, it's 10%/20%/30%/40%/70% on Hazard 1/2/3/4/5.

[rocky sequoia]

maybe im just more accustomed to games that are closer to roguelikes than -lites as im sort of used to the fact that if you get poor luck that you might just be screwed as you cant rely on meta progression to carry you through

[still dagger]

Does interaction speed effect revive speed?

[icy rune]

Steam forums are a garbage fire rn, complaining about the game with the early access tag that just came put doesnt feel nearly as finished as drg.
Good grief, these people.

[opal belfry]

Finally finished one of the levels

[verbal tusk]

You only really have to worry about friendly fire on haz 5 where it's 70%. If you go into 5+, at vulnerability 1/2 it's 90%/115% iirc

[south stump]

it was the easiest for me, though I've only fought the spider and gatorak on d3

[exotic matrix]

And shields can absorb the occasional stray bullet easily enough.

[strong salmon]

I've learned to ignore them and just enjoy the game lmao. People really didn't get it I guess

[wide iris]

Spotters please dont forget to use your ammo crate BEFORE getting more ammo from the normal refil

[rocky sequoia]

You learn very quickly to watch out for friendlys when using stuff like super cooling chamber or driller bombs on haz 5 lol

[waxen hamlet]

It is it's attacks you think you dodge, then bam your dead.

[karmic rampart]

Can someone give me some insight? I am looking at the risk vectors and I keep seeing luck but dont take it. By negotiatons does it refer to just simply when I pick items??

[strong salmon]

yeah, it means when you have upgrades theres a higher chance youll get rarer upgrades

[verbal tusk]

True, have definitely hyperprop'd a teammate into the shadow realm before (sorry luv!)

[rocky sequoia]

i think it means that upgrades are more likely to be higher tiers and you are more likely to get better weapons/equipment from crates

[south stump]

happened in drg too, during my 500 hours I've learned to understand what's on my screen

[karmic rampart]

Thank you!

[south stump]

i need a grappling hook reclaimer, that would be great

[karmic rampart]

Thank you thank you!

[waxen hamlet]

Yeah, it is mainly his tackle it's like it follows you even tho I thought it was a straight line.

[strong salmon]

they already tried it, it was too overpowered for obvious reasons 😔

[worldly oracle]

Maybe shrug, my main "good-amount-of-time" roguelites I've played is TBOI and RoR2, Hades 2, even Magicraft and ofc DRG:Survivor

[south stump]

is there a way of disabling particles right now?

[rocky sequoia]

There is nothing funnier than using a proximity charge Fat boy and watching the shot you missed bounce straight back at your team and down you all

[atomic edge]

All the terrain traversal tools are group oriented. Doubt there will be a grappling hook, unless you can carry someone with you.

[verbal tusk]

I think grappling hook was a thing, but got cut because it made you so much faster compared to the rest of the party (and the timer)

[formal magnet]

It technically does that but not exactly, the wiki says what it does and the value but it's kinda a spoiler

[strong salmon]

I hope GSG adds the accessibility option to hold instead of spam a key from DRG to RC, because spamming a and d to unfreeze myself is painful 😔

[south stump]

i mean as personal ability, maybe it's not as op as scout's one but it would still be a movement focused reclaimer

[rocky sequoia]

the main roguelike/lite i have played is RoR2 and i would consider it a lot closer to a like as yes there is meta progression in unlocking items but if you get nothing but rolls of pennies you are just screwed

[atomic edge]

Slicer has a dash that feels similar to a short-range grappling hook.

[rocky sequoia]

Assuming its thee same as earlier in the alpha there is a chance to get a grappling hook from an equipment crate

[dusty echo]

Man those DRG combat drones hurt.
Taking out half of my health with those rockets.

[strong salmon]

heyyooo rogue core went from mixed to mostly positive, hell yeah

[long ember]

Like grappling hook its dash can also stop you from taking fall damage funnily enough

[jovial spade]

so do upgrades stack? theres no change in stat when you aquire two of them hovering over it... .but i havent checked the esc menu stats

[rocky sequoia]

you can also get hover boots which is fun

[formal magnet]

That got removed ages ago, combat cocktail does a similar job though

[rose reef]

Y’all think a medic reclaimer could work?

[uncut kelp]

They do

[worldly oracle]

Idk, even in my worst runs of RoR2, I've always felt like there was a chance to make stuff work, but in this game it's just like, so much unavoidable damage that if you're sh. out of luck, you will die, and you will do so quickly - doesn't matter how well you play it with what you've got

[rocky sequoia]

ah thats a shame

[pale rain]

it pre-applies the fall damage you'll take!

[formal magnet]

Anything that has a + in front stacks, some upgrades stack in just one change but the + says what

[formal magnet]

Xd yh but the speed and lower gravity is worth it

[strong salmon]

nah red sugar perks are good enough and there is also a perk that makes it so if youre standing within a certain distance of someone else you both regen hp (but we couldnt figure out how to proc it)

[uncut kelp]

That's why upgrades that generate red sugar are really good

[compact finch]

how about enhancements?
like would all 4 handle grips give me a total pickaxe base damage bump of 55?

[waxen igloo]

I love you rogue core I can't wait for updates :D

[formal magnet]

All enhancements stack that's why it's tiered

[strong salmon]

I do hope GSG adds more long-form progression that gives a better reason to grind for ascensions other than the sick ass cutscene

[rocky sequoia]

I have run into a lot of situations in RoR2 during monsoon or eclipse runs where i simply dont have enough damage or good enough items and it is simply unbeatable. Especially with alloy worship units its possible to get to a point where you do less damage than they heal and it just becomes a sissyphean fight where you might not die but you will never win

[waxen igloo]

I believe you can do this yeah, I was surprised seeing the new ones didn't just replace the lower tier ones it's fun

[jovial spade]

One more question, my 4 stack is trying to figure out if its better to kind of split up in rooms and mine/ find work benches individually then regroup, or if its better to basicall "hold hands" and walk every corner of the caves as 1 group? Trying to beat time

[strong salmon]

Split up until swarm, all find your own things to do imo

[uncut kelp]

I haven't tried stacking them yet, u can give it a shot and see if it works

[waxen igloo]

I know there's deck swapping and gauntlet, is gauntlet actually available to play i saw it said work in progress does it actually let you do that

[atomic edge]

How do you feel about cave leech hugs?

[fading bronze]

do yo8u get anything measningful for prestige or is it just pickaxe stuff

[formal magnet]

Gauntlet is fully functional and very fun

[strong salmon]

It is available to play idk why theres a thing that says its under construction, maybe because its more rudimentary? idk

[rocky sequoia]

Ive mostly played duos but i find that its sort of dependant, if you have just finished a swarm and there is no enemies around then feel free to split up to cover more ground but if you see that there is 2 upgrades available or if a swarm is approaching then its a good idea to regroup

[harsh coral]

I haven't played DRG in a while but grabbed the new game... Why is my dwarf a chick? she has no beard... this feels wrong.

[waxen igloo]

it's probably cause they plan to rework it significantly tbf

[uncut kelp]

Think gauntlet is still very much experimental at this point

[strong salmon]

I hope not theyre super cool

[waxen igloo]

FEAR NOT FEMALE DWARFS CAN EQUIP BEARDS

Salvation for you!

[hasty orbit]

what does "health regeneration threshold" mean?

[harsh coral]

Could at least let me choose the gender instead of locking me in this way afte years of actual dwarf gameplay

[formal magnet]

It's being worked on a lot but it does have a fully functional new game mode but is a bit rough around the edges

[jovial spade]

just like a lot of things in life.... "it depends" thanks tho

[worldly oracle]

but having the 'chance' to have it be a sissyphean fight in the first place is kind of what I'm grabbing at. I do like when it feels like through great gameplay being able to stay alive, even if you're just avoiding damage forever. I really like that kind of expression, in this game it just feels like there really is no chance for anything like that thanks to so much raw, unavoidable damage

[rain cloud]

ROR2 has a good system in the scrapping/printing for different items, something like that could be neat for upgrades that are pretty useless

[rocky sequoia]

A lot of it simply comes down to game sense and how much you trust yourself/team to not go down or need help

[pale rain]

im still waiting for silly boss 4

[uncut kelp]

Health naturally regens to a certain point, but the cap is pretty low by default

[waxen igloo]

so default is 30, when under 30 health you can Regen health up to 30 health, increasing the threshold obviously is good if you're having near death moments a lot

[formal magnet]

Hoping it gets added soon, I love the design

[rocky sequoia]

idk you can kite very effectively with slicer dash/ziplines/double jumps/good map geometry to the point where the only thing that will ever kill you is getting grabbed by a tentacle

[hasty orbit]

ahh ok, kinda forgot about that low health mechanic, thanks

[atomic edge]

With a beard and mustache, they're ambiguously male. All the dwarfs seem to have the same body shape.

[uncut kelp]

And in turn remove the ammo/health upgrades that are accessible to everyone by default?

[zealous willow]

i need to play some of the other dwarves, but slicer is soooo good….

[frigid tiger]

Side tangent, would you guys want to arm wrestle Omega for free beers?

[strong salmon]

play guardian

[worldly oracle]

I'm talking irrespective of class though, and without such insane reliance on the RNG to make it work

[waxen igloo]

I recommend gaurdian or spotter I love them

[compact finch]

do pickaxe damage upgrades affect power attack damage in any way?

[rocky sequoia]

Im not sure if it is the exact same but in DRG there is a hard limit to how many bugs can be spawned at once so if you can dodge them effectively then it will never get harder

[waxen igloo]

I'm not sure, would have to test

[tribal quest]

https://medal.tv/games/deep-rock-galactic-rogue-core/clips/mL1G0LYjFf_EZVJI-?invite=cr-MSw1Q2csMjg5NjQ3OTg1&v=5

Am I crazy or did I just hit that guy for 400k? 😂

[rain cloud]

scout gameplay

[uncut kelp]

Because if the upgrades are useless you just pick health which is universally still a decent choice

[zealous willow]

having non regenerating armor instead of shield makes health Huge

[rain cloud]

i mean yeah but sometimes you take something that you're ok with giving up

[full crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/macgruber-im-in-imin-gif-24174214

[zealous willow]

i feel like runs are short enough to just say ‘thems the breaks’ in that situation

[rocky sequoia]

eh +20 health and is usually not very impactful as its very rare for that 20 health to be the difference between life and death while an upgrade that is useless now might combo great later on. I have however had the full heal come in clutch during a wave

[stone whale]

Epic embed fail

[frosty rivet]

hey is the Hammer caster not in the game anymore ? 10 runs or more and I havent seen it at all

[formal magnet]

The 20 health becomes 30 when armour is taken into account and a lot of enemies hit around 30 on D2/3 (depending on scaling) so it does help a lot from my experience but it's less noticeable since it's just a stat boost compared to a new ability

[hollow bear]

it is

[frosty rivet]

why is it so rare I want to use it 😭

[uncut kelp]

I mean you still take health damage through armour, and depending on how many times you top up on health, can make quite a difference

[waxen igloo]

probably just getting unlucky unfortunately

[rocky sequoia]

does armour scale with health? I really don't take health ups very often so i have never looked to see if it does

[full crystal]

Normally in all the other discords I'm in the gif click on there just sends it in a working format 🤷‍♂️

[hollow bear]

hammer is in the heavy weapon crate iirc

[waxen igloo]

there are seperate armor upgrades so I imagine not

[formal magnet]

Armour reduces all damage by 50% as long as it's active, so actually better than more HP on high damage attacks

[clear nimbus]

you should be able to grab cameras while hanging from a zipline

[rocky sequoia]

yeah i remembered right after typing that lol

but still 20 health is like one lump of red sugar and the oppourtunity cost of taking the health up over an upgrade is a very hard one to sell most of the time

[long ember]

I have mastered the art of disengage --> grab ---> hang again to circumvent this

[rocky sequoia]

you can jump off the zipline, grab the camera and then grab the zipline before you fall if you are fast enough

[frosty rivet]

slicer needs no zip (well, usually)

[shy prism]

I really love the sound design of Rogue Core, all the industrial machinery and buzzer noises are amazing.

[formal magnet]

Anyone can take health and as many people as needed to can I like it as a skip option but I wouldn't take it over anything good unless I really need the HP

[weary violet]

it heals, too

[vital jungle]

is the discord thing broken

[waxen igloo]

I would love more roguecore music purely and only because I already love the soundtrack I need more of it

[rocky sequoia]

again even as a skip option there is always the chance that an upgrade that is useless right now such as more damage to stunned enemies becomes useful later when you get a way to stun. its not just missing the upgrade but the oppourtunity cost that isnt as obvious

[frosty rivet]

I'm sure you're right but theres so much stuff happening sometimes I just dont hear anything, also visually it's packed lol, had someone throw all their grav emit on objectives, can see shit

[long ember]

I think its better to have it as its own special skip button because i think the UI miscommunicate this, making players think only one player can take it like other upgrades

[waxen igloo]

the UI does need to better communicate that it's a multiple players can pick option yeah

[long ember]

Especially with the CLAIMED button after it was picked xd

[formal magnet]

That upgrade is very good on falconer and Guardian so I wouldn't call it useless, mainly in Coop there can be times where there're upgrades based around crits or on damage effects that wouldn't benefit me but surviving an extra hit from an enemy would. I think it depends a lot on place style and build

[waxen igloo]

they weren't calling it useless they were saying if you picked it and it happened to be useless for your build they think they'd rather have it for the chance for it to be useful than the health

[rocky sequoia]

maybe its a bit of bias as i only play duos with another person who is very experienced with DRG and good at RC but it is very rare that there is no good upgrade as we communicate with which upgrade each of us want so that someone might take a slightly less good upgrade so that both people get something good instead of taking the better one and leaving the other person with no good options

Afterall RC is a team game at its core and that kind of teamwork/discussion really makes the game easier and more fun

[waxen igloo]

I def do take the health sometimes cause that full heal can be life saving

[rocky sequoia]

this is the only real reason i would take it, it has saved my ass a few times where we get an upgrade mid wave while im low on health, the +20 total health is just secondary to that effect in my mind

[formal magnet]

Generally there will always be something better or something that could be better, but the option to heal to full and gain 20 more HP is very nice to have especially on higher depths where sometimes you need a bit more of a boost in survivability.

[waxen igloo]

I also do like being able to take more hits sometimes but that's besides the point

[harsh coral]

So is there a way to make the falconer into a male dwarf? I'm not trying to be a dick about this. I always play as male characters. I get the whole dei stuff means girl dwarfs, but shouldnt that also mean I can make it a trans male dwarf? or something? I just want it to sound like my normal dorfs.

[fallow shard]

Gender locked. Welcome to old diablo style customization

[harsh coral]

Sigh...

[uncut kelp]

Still kinda different from choosing a currently useless upgrade and hoping to come across another upgrade enables the previous one tho

[prime imp]

girl dwarves can have beards ive seen

[atomic edge]

Slap on a beard and use a mod to swap the voice?

[rapid hound]

'DEI stuff' oh, the edge...

[rocky sequoia]

I find it very rare that being able to take one extra hit from full health to death is that impactful as there is usually at least some red sugar on the ground that would give you effectivley the same outcome

[woeful otter]

The slow down when you fall from high heights is annoying af

[sour bane]

But of course they can. What, you want a pointy eared leaf lover with a smooth chin? Get yourself a REAL dwarven lass with a lustrous bush of her own ^v^

[waxen igloo]

i have a no red sugar on the ground issue a lot. unless someone like got an upgrade that spawns it (two weakpoint hits in a row spawn red sugar is so clutch all the time oh my god)

[hallow tundra]

obviously, dei stands for Dingodile Exiles Immediately, which isnt a real sentance/j

[loud drift]

DEI is when woman

[covert barn]

anyone playing the game?

[hallow tundra]

dei is when i fumble my typing when spelling die

[fickle goblet]

Anyways falconer is already a trans woman smh

[twilit kelp]

Btw, does anyone know what the unidentified structure does..?

[atomic edge]

Dingoes Eat Infants?

[rocky sequoia]

even then if you are in a situation where you go down from full health and that 20 extra health would have saved you you probably have made a large mistake or gotten very unlucky to get yourself into that position

[river whale]

Would still be ideal if there was a male and female variant of each classs instead of having the classes be gender locked

[twilit kelp]

It just looks cool seemingly, we couldn't do anything with it

But tbf, DRG has some structures that just look cool too

[rapid hound]

Real

[waxen igloo]

it certainly does happen to me but I'm not hella cracked out my gourd I'm objectively mediocre jfksjr

[uncut kelp]

20 max health goes a longer way then simple 1 instance of 20 healing, especially if you are going to encounter multiple fights overtime

[rocky sequoia]

I kinda like the gender lock as it gives each class some more identity over just their kit

[river whale]

It makes them more like characters than it does classes, which is probably the intention, but I know a lot of players who'd appreciate it even if they have set sexes in canon

[golden marsh]

this is a copy paste of that I put in the steam discussion but i think it raises some good ideas for fixes

Honestly loving the game, the difficulty is perfect. the timer is a touch of a buzz kill but i understand why it needs to exist but a cool mechanic that i think would help would be any additional time you have from a previous round could get rolled over into the next round (maybe with a cap) that way leaving early can be more strategic and valuable. I've played solo and duos and haven't really had a problem with ammo economy but I've played a lot of slasher so ammo isn't needed but my friend has run out of ammo a few times but he can usually double dip so it works out well enough. I also think a fix for people fighting over perks would be to just refresh the pick pool or the selected one to not hard limit someone's options and maybe with those fixes there can be modifiers making it revert back to how it is now. overall great game and I'm having a blast.

[sour bane]

I love that when I first locked in the Retcon the first thing I hear out of her is; "I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS THE REAL ME ANYMORE!" XD amazing

[fallow shard]

I feel like identity should be VA'd instead of the same dude voicing all the males and same lass voicing all the women, but that's just me :v

[rocky sequoia]

again i really dont think so as if you are ever in a position to heal from red sugar with that 20 extra health the red sugar would just sit on the ground and you can pick it up later for the exact same effect

[prime imp]

anyone got any retcon tips?

[amber orchid]

Gimme my 500 merits guys wtf

[cloud flint]

#rogue-core-gallery message look at this trash clearing build with the devastator pistol i made lol, just insta wipes entire spawns

[fickle goblet]

What do you mean by this?

[sour bane]

Bugged, please remain calm. All is well on Hoxxes IV, shop as usual and avoid panic buying

[rocky sequoia]

that would be even better but ill take what i can get

[eager cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/calm-the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-gif-4634536

[prime imp]

i seem to strugle with restting before getting downed

[river whale]

Different VAs to differentiate the characters better rather than the same people voicing each gender

[sour bane]

I would love that!

[waxen igloo]

mugging us for our merits egads

[fickle goblet]

Oh. Yeah that’s not gonna happen. That’s a TON of extra work to do and it just isn’t worth it right now

[amber orchid]

me want merits 🥺 Psi help me

[stray forge]

there are no glitches in ba sing se

[fallow shard]

I mean that different voice actors tend to give a different spin on characters. The same guy voices all of the playable male characters, so I assume it is the same thing when it comes to the female dwarves too. Five classes, five VA's is the TL;DR. To add to that, a pitch difference is just a slider now, so it means very little that the Slicer sounds different to the Guardian, when it is the same exact VA as the Scout/Engineer/Gunner/Driller